This Paranormal Life - #013 Black Eyed Children
Episode Date: June 20, 2017Ever since the 1990s reports have been popping up of children with completely black eyes wandering alone late at night, asking for help. The accounts of those that encounter them are harrowing. This c...ould well happen to you! So tune in to learn the difference between a regular kid and a Black Eyed Kid (BEK for short). Rory Powers and Kit Grier are on the case! Finding the truth behind the mystery.Music: www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I'm going to be your host for today, Rory Powers, and I am joined by my co-host, Kit Greer.
Boo.
Who said that? Jesus, they're in the room.
Now, if you haven't listened to this podcast before
what we do is every single week we look at a different paranormal case study we investigate
it as professional paranormal investigators and we come to a conclusion as to whether or not
it is legit two men on the verge of insanity brought to you twice a week from ourselves from
our mental selves deep
underneath the earth now we do a lot of podcasts we do some that cover you know some comedy aspects
of paranormal life that we know just simply aren't true but for once kit i hope you're ready
to be scared beyond belief i'm sorry what's happening like a chuckle oh yeah you like an
easy little podcast how about being scared
for once okay huh how would you react if i just had a knife in your face right now how would you
where did the blood come from i nicked myself when i was unsheathing it a little bit it's actually
really bad it's actually really bad oh yeah yeah wow you don't have any banded bandages no i we got i got
some duct tape upstairs yeah it's fine hold on a second i mean duct tape's not really just patch
that up it's not yeah i wouldn't say that's we'll go again sanitary so i mean it's pouring out it
really is it's the tip did very little i got it i got it fine. On today's podcast... It's on your nose and ears.
On today's podcast, we're going to investigate a case that's borderline nightmare fuel.
Jesus.
You've heard of the phrase, scared your socks off?
What about scared the pupils off your eyes?
Oh my God.
And the reason we'll be using that phrase is because today we're going to be
investigating the black eyed children that's not a band i want to stress that early on that this
is not a bad those hacks took the name unbelievable and twisted it to their game to something hip-hop
unbelievable day now to start our investigation let's look at one of the first official sightings that
came to light please do let me set the scene it's a warm summer night in 1996 in texas and a young
man brian bethel is on his way to his internet provider's office to pay his bills already that's
weird no no i'm shutting it down this isn't this is that that's the. No, no, I'm shutting it down. This isn't, this isn't.
That's the weirdest part about the whole story. This has been written by some, like, 90-year-old who's never...
Well, it's also, it's 1996.
Like, it's well-established that you can pay in other forms than hand-delivering checks to the office.
That shouldn't be possible to pay your internet bill in person.
Imagine going to the BT headquarters and being like,
I was a little bit over this week.
There's a bit more Facebook than usual.
Well, Brian's sitting there in the darkness,
filling out the check to give to the office.
When he hears a knocking against his window,
obviously startled,
Brian looks up to see two boys standing outside his car.
He described them as pale-skinned, curly-haired, and aged between 9 and 12.
The boys are wearing hooded pullovers, so Brian can't quite see their faces.
This sounds like a Korn music video.
It does.
Also, nothing too weird yet.
Yeah.
It's just kids.
You know, this feels close to home because this is quite modern.
A lot of our stories are in the distant past, but this is very recent.
Absolutely.
1996.
You know, we've all been in cars at night with kids nearby.
No big weird.
I mean, we were five.
So just to clarify.
We were the kids, actually, now that I think about it.
This is my autobiography.
This is the first chapter.
Just running it by you guys.
So Brian can't quite see their faces.
So through the window, the two boys explained that they had no money
and needed to get home to their mother.
Makes sense.
Again, everything makes sense.
I mean, anyone with a heart got to look after these kids.
Exactly.
But while the conversation was going on,
Brian was filled by this overwhelming, uncontrollable fear.
Something wasn't right.
Yeah.
You know, I've been in those situations before
where you're walking home
and you've done that walk like a billion times,
but for some reason you're just like,
oh, I feel a little on edge tonight, you know?
For no reason at all.
Yeah, you get a sort of premonition.
So what do you do?
You punch the kids.
You punch it into first gear.
You rip off, you pull a hoodie over their face.
Scooby-Doo style.
Who are you really?
A goblin child?
You tell them to get in the back, but when they reach for the door, you drive a couple feet forward.
You say, sorry, that was an accident.
I insist this time I will let you in.
They go for the door.
You reverse a bit.
Apology again. Into their face. You run them over. an accident i insist this time i will let you in they go for the door you reverse a bit apology
again into their face you're running over so at this point the two boys continue to try and
convince brian to give them a lift asking if brian would let them in even though it feels wrong
brian being the nice guy that he is goes to open the the car door. Yeah. It's heart overhead,
you know? What do you do? Exactly.
Because I think in this situation, even if it
doesn't feel right, you're probably gonna
let the kids in because it's the poor kids.
Because imagine these kids get stuck and then suddenly
they say they tried to get help from you. Exactly.
But at this moment, that's when he
sees it. One of the boys
has dark, pupil-less eyes.
Whoa. Brian described them as quote unquote the
sort of eyes you would see these days on aliens or bargain basement vampires on late night television
very self-aware this guy yeah they were soulless orbs like two great swaths of starless night
all right was he an author he's getting a bit poetic with it now yeah
at this point brian is petrified he makes a quick excuse and drives away as fast as he can
but when he looks back in the rearview mirror the boys are gone what is going on here what are we
thinking ah this is very confusing i mean you place yourself in that scenario right this is
extremely confusing it's like imagine trying to go to bed that night yeah and like you're just ah this is very confusing i mean you place yourself in that scenario right this is extremely
confusing it's like imagine trying to go to bed that night yeah and like you're just trying to
piece together what the hell happens like you're trying to do your best to get these kids and then
they freak you out and then then you're questioning whether it even happened at all exactly and also
that's a situation where nothing really out of the ordinary happened to the point where you'd
be questioning was i just a dick did
i just leave two kids left stranded yeah because you could almost think you got inside your head
too much maybe it was a shadow maybe the kid did have pupils yeah so i mean that's the kind of
story you would go and like tell your partner or like someone your family and they'd go yeah i mean
i guess it's a kind of weird story and you're like nobody had to be there you saw their eyes
they were creepy as hell.
One of them was like, oh, can we come in?
Can we come in?
The other one was like small, like a man, but not quite a man.
So a child?
Yeah.
No, like a black eyed child.
So let's talk about these creatures.
OK, because Brian believed that they were something called black eyed children or black eyed kids, B.E.K. for short.
OK.
Now, in all situations, the kids or the group of kids will approach an adult who's alone and request help for them in the form of granting entrance to a car, house or a building.
It's as if without consent, they can't actually continue on with whatever horrible, malicious activity they've heard about.
Very vampire-like.
Right?
That's my initial thought, because vampires have to be invited in.
It's true.
You know?
So these kids, maybe it's like, oh, we're going to murder Brian, but we need him to say, it's okay, kids, you can murder me, before they actually murder him.
Well, it's a weird kind of border border of consent isn't it it's like
you know they start murdering him and he's like i didn't say you could murder me just let you in
yeah and they're like good enough i start purging him now as their eyes are typically covered the
first warning sign for a victim is an unexplainable sense of dread that overpowers whoever makes
contact with the bekek which essentially what
brian what came over brian as well yeah is this just unexplainable sense of fear okay yeah it's
like when i know i'm gonna see my dad again yeah this horrible sense of fear and dread sinking in
your stomach and anger uh to move on to another reported incident that occurred around 2010 jesus we're getting really
recent with this a hiker named david was camping out by lake michigan now david was on his way to
a big hiking trip and we all know there's not a lot of functioning bathrooms out in the woods
it's true so before reaching the campsite, David stops nearby to use the bathroom.
This check, this is more normal than hand delivering your internet check.
I mean, this is like, you know, they always say if you're going to tell a lie,
you're going to make up a story, put something embarrassing in it.
It's like he's done that.
So I was going to take a shit.
David wet himself on the way to his hike.
He left the bathroom.
He had toilet paper stuck to his shoe
his high school crush saw him when he fell in a puddle it was a horrible instantly
so after he's finished up he's about to leave when he bumps into two children oh my god one of them
asks can you help us and they're just in the middle of the woods standing they're in the
bathroom they're still in the bathroom yeah yeah yeah now again david much like brian is a nice guy
not one to turn down helping a stranger but there's something about these kids that's filling
him right with fear their eyes perchance look at their dark soulless eyes they're wearing aviators shit i can't see so david actually makes
up an excuse and gets ready to leave but not before glancing back at the children and that's
when he sees it oh their eyes are entirely black david quickly walks out of the bathroom and drives
away damn so at this point i want to ask what are the
implications what what is it what does one of these kids want to do to you according to these
stories the only people who survived to tell us about these kids you know they got away yeah so
do we have any do we know what these kids are up to what are their intentions really and it's kind
of hard to tell because i read a lot of encounters with BEKs.
Yes.
And a lot of time, if you don't let them in or give them consent, whatever they're asking,
they can't actually really do anything.
Yeah.
There was one story which, as a professional paranormal investigator,
I wasn't sure of its credibility of someone who did let BEKs into their house.
And they said that immediately, within the first 10 minutes,
their cat started freaking out
and hissing at the children.
And shortly afterwards,
when the kids left,
the husband of the wife
who lived in the house
had nosebleeds
that continued on for weeks.
Unexplainable nosebleeds.
Wow.
Yeah.
Freaky stuff. So again, actual like harm no like stabbing no like we'll make your eyes black like ours yeah
stabbing people in the eyes just kind of this creepy can we come into your house bring
a bad vibe kind of like a bit of a curse yeah exactly the curse curse kids okay uh so now going back to david
you've just seen two possible demon children in a public bathroom so what do you do well obviously
the only logical option is to continue your camping trip and sleep out in the dark goddamn
woods by yourself i mean i guess you've committed you've booked the weekend off work you just gotta
you know i'm not going home just because of two kids I'm gonna hunker down
And listen to my cassette player
Put on some good vibes
And try and get past this
So later on
David's trip
As he lay curled up
In his sleeping bag
He heard noises
From outside his tent
We have black eyes
Through the sound of wind, a voice cut through.
A small child begging to be let into the tent.
No, don't do that.
That's pretty scary.
That's pretty creepy.
I really, I've been camping a lot.
Like I do it most summers.
I go back to camp in Northern Ireland.
And there's sometimes where I've been camping and it's really stormy nights.
You know those nights
where it's like the wind
it just feels like
it's punching your tent
from all directions.
Can you imagine that?
But, you know,
maybe there's light
from the moon
and you can see the silhouette
of this like child
against the tent.
A lightning flash.
His hands are up.
Ivy, Ivy's so scared.
He's got a yo-yo.
He's got like
a little kid paraphernalia. He's got a Beyblade. Stand back. He's got a yo-yo He's got like Little kid paraphernalia
He's got a Beyblade
Stand back
He's got a fidget spinner
Let us in
Little swag kids
He's on a hoverboard
In the woods
So the kid
Begged to be let in the tent
This continued
For most of the night
Both kids
Pleading to be let
Into the tent
Okay
We should stop here Because I just need to, you know,
just remove all doubt here that these weren't legitimately children that needed help.
Starving to death in the woods.
I mean, completely unrelated.
Two children were found dead the next day.
Starved to death.
I mean, children go missing all the time.
I mean, lots of kids need help
a lot of the time all around the world you imagine moving on to a story where it's like
christopher was in the bathroom and he saw a small child it asked for help immediately
christopher decked the child in the nose and sprinted for the exit it's just a strange
give him a swirly lock the door, and set the bathroom on fire.
During the police interviews afterwards, it's like, so did the child hurt you in any ways?
I just panicked.
I was so scared.
I gave him a swirly in the bathroom, and I took his money.
You took the child's money?
I don't know if he was a demon or a monster
but I know he was a nerd
he was a nerd
he had about 350 in change on him
probably to buy some weapons
or knives
they just slowly place
handcuffs on him just as he's testifying
they just slowly
place him in the docks
in front of a judge.
The judge just squinting.
I also love the idea
that he never gets his breath back.
Also, officer,
to continue the story,
halfway through the assault,
his father, also a demon,
came in and tried to stop me.
He said my child is not a demon
and that I was in fact the demon.
For everything I had done.
Five dead.
He is now dead in the bathroom.
Also, I will collect my medals
at the ceremony this evening.
They're placing him in an electric chair.
He's gonna stick.
This is a strange ceremony
to congratulate me
on hunting a demon. Is this some sort of crown to congratulate me on hunting a demon
is this some sort of crown
you are placing on me
is this
electrical current
some sort of payment
that I am processing
he doesn't know what
dying feels like
being placed in a coffin
is this some sort of prize for my achievements He doesn't know what dying feels like. Being placed in a coffin.
Is this some sort of prize for my achievements?
I'm going to assume that in every one of these cases,
the vision of these black-eyed children and this uncontrollable fear is enough to assure that these are not just children starving in the woods.
We're going to have to side with them.
It had to be their moment, you know?
Exactly.
Because this is the other sucky thing.
If you are in one of these experiences, we've had this.
You know, if you see an alien, you can say to someone,
I saw a ship come down from the sky.
It slid a cow's throat and then became a black helicopter and flew away.
That's a lot of very, spooky paranormal unexplainable things if
you're like i saw two creepy kids in the bathroom they were pleading for help yeah and i sat in my
sleeping bag all night you don't feel good about that i mean because these kind of stories you hear
these myths all the time and it's this kind of idea i don't know if we're going to get there
right but shapeshifters and so if a creature can any form, it's a bit like a siren.
It's if a creature can take any form,
it's like with a siren,
it takes the form of a beautiful woman
with a beautiful voice.
Who wouldn't?
You know what I'm saying?
And I was like, you went on a seat.
If there was like some sort of operation
to become a woman,
like I would do it right now.
I would legit do it today.
We're going completely different angles here.
If there was some crazy operation,
some like crazy future futuristic operation
to become a woman
to just become a woman
I would do it
I mean that exists
what?
I mean you could do that
like I mean it's
no
it's very progressive
you can't
shapeshift kit
I feel like
you've been taught something wrong in your life
yeah I mean
you're not really talking about
shapeshifting to like a beast or demon
I mean if you just want to
change your sex
I mean that's
yeah like if there was some crazy future operation
where I could literally cut off my dick and become a woman.
I mean, I wouldn't say that's a futuristic operation.
I mean, I think...
I would do it.
Yeah.
Okay, lie down.
I've got scalpels and shit.
I can't think of a worse audio podcast
than listening to someone get their dick removed for a whole segment.
The next 20 minutes just yelling.
Do we have any freaking anesthetic?
The next episode.
Welcome to this Paramore Live.
I'm your host, Rosie.
This is Kit.
Yeah, we might get onto shapeshifters at some point.
Yeah, but if a beast can take any form, and it's a particularly mischievous or intelligent beast,
it's going to take the form of this most vulnerable person in society
who needs help and that everyone feels obliged to talk to and look after.
Exactly, because you're playing that sympathy role.
It's not going to take the form of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre guy.
I need help.
Can I get into your house?
I need to call my mother.
Exactly.
You're not getting into the house dressed as Jason.
Yeah.
All right.
So the haunting that night was so horrible.
I'm going to call it a haunting because it was essentially a haunting.
It was so bad.
I have a testimony from David here.
And he says, it got so bad that i stopped replying and could only sob
like a heartbroken teenage girl or like a woman who just learned her sister died which you know
men cry too david it doesn't have to be either a teenage girl or a woman who learned her sister
died you could have just cried like the little bitch you were a little bitch man they wouldn't let two children into a tent from so
woke to so unhook so fast i cried like an inferior woman i was confused as if i had the smaller brain
of a woman as if i had feelings like some kind of weak subhuman beast but as a man, I did not let those children into my tent.
My face became wet
in some sort of contorted
feeling.
So that's the first time I thought David
is a bit of a dick. Okay.
In his statement. So the next morning, he reluctantly
opens the front of the tent
to discover the children are nowhere
to be seen. Yeah. There's absolutely
no trace of them.
Similar to Brian's case.
Look back.
I mean, obviously, this one took all night.
But Brian looked back immediately and they were gone.
Now, in the morning, he wandered around some of the open trails for a while, now that it was daylight.
And the only thing he found was a dead duck.
Whether or not that was related.
I mean, they could have just,
I mean, ducks die all the time.
Animals die.
Literally just drop dead.
Or maybe there's black-eyed ducks.
And that duck was involved in an equal haunting.
Like the duck was in his nest.
And there's like two little black-eyed ducklings that show up.
That's it.
That's it.
And the duck's like, I was afraid like a female duck or a little baby duck i think the odds are he
probably just found a duck like a dead duck yeah i feel like because after a night like that you
if you find anything weird you're gonna try and piece it into what you experienced absolutely
like there was a branch broken by a like a bullfrog yeah it was in the shape of a
cross yeah yeah so who knows it may or may not have been related now we've talked about what
these creatures are and the threat they pose and that's like a question i found myself coming back
to a lot was what threat do they pose yeah because one of the comments that i really liked uh under
this story that i found was um they seem really creepy but how good of a fighter are these little kids really if i just went primal
on them what if i just began screaming and flinging punches and bites and that was daikujiya
from phoenix yeah i mean that often when people ask that question how tough someone is they go
well you know what do you
bench yeah are you bench kid i've trained you know it's like i'm a black belt in in taekwondo
yeah uh so how are they gonna sound that but this guy's just like he's very honest
it's like there's no training whatsoever if i go if i behave like an a monkey say if i went
primal i would primal on them so scratching the went primal on them. Instead of scratching their little black eyes on.
I need to use that more in day-to-day life, going primal.
That's so funny.
I mean, well, look at the two combatants in the corners of the ring.
You've got a man going primal, throwing punches and bites, quote unquote.
And you've got kids without eyes.
Yeah.
I mean, I think I would put my money on the primal Phoenix man.
Yeah.
You know, I feel like what they're capable of is what separates them from being legit kids.
Yeah.
Just children.
What they're capable of really come down to what they are.
What are these things?
So we talked a little bit about vampires following that similar trait where they have to be let in somewhere by the host.
And that's how it's kind of like that's almost consent for the vampire to then suck your blood out and mess you up.
It's very similar with these kids.
It doesn't seem like they can do anything unless you give them consent to proceed.
The other idea is that they are demons, which is what the eyes would suggest.
Yeah.
Demonic creatures. idea is that they are demons which is what the eyes would suggest yeah demonic creatures other
is like the ghosts of dead children that it like suffered on earth died as kids but then that
doesn't really work because like there's lots of kids that have died in horrible circumstances and
there's not like millions of little black-eyed kids roaming around uh i quite like the idea
of kind of demonic or the other cool one was that they were actually part
of a creation by the government. Oh, like scientific, not scientific experimentation,
because in that story where the husband and the wife let the kids into the house and they were in
there for a little while, they didn't actually do anything, but they just said, our parents will be
here soon. And, uh, after a brief period of time, uh, they said, our parents are be here soon and after a brief period of time uh they said our parents
are here and they walked outside and at the end of the driveway where um another paranormal group
that we might go on to discuss the tall black men or maybe the black eyed men in black yeah
essentially yeah yeah because everyone thinks like oh men in black that's the fbi who brought
the aliens but no they're actually uh allegedly six to seven foot
tall slender men ah who essentially are just like statuesque they don't motion they don't move
so they had come up to collect these children exactly exactly so that's another creepy
interesting creepy like origin myth yeah this sounds a little bit like stranger things you know the story
of 11 she's a bit like a little you know black-eyed kid she's like runner on time trying to get help
100 she gets nosebleeds all the time disaster just follow she's not a bad kid but disaster
follows her wherever she goes and the guy who first takes her in gets messed up by these government
agents yeah absolutely who's to say that they're not hunting him down? Who's to say when David met those kids in the bathroom,
they were actually looking for help.
Yeah.
And he instead shanked them and gave them swirlies.
He killed their dad.
David, you monster.
You killed 11.
Oh my God.
Kiddest kid ever.
So looking at the origins of these creatures.
Yes.
A lot of people believe that the origin of B.E.K.'s
are based in the ghostly and paranormal world.
But others believe their origins are much more otherworldly.
Take us there.
Get this.
Okay.
This doesn't happen in every case study that we do.
But sometimes you come across a revelation.
You make a little connection.
Yeah.
That maybe no one in the world has ever seen before. You crack a case.
You essentially feel like Nicolas Cage
in National Treasure. What I'm saying is
we need to go get the Declaration of Independence.
I was going to say
like a real person who maybe
achieved some sort of discovery.
A lot of my feelings are related to
Nicolas Cage movies.
Sometimes I feel
so angry like Nicolas Cage in. Just Nicolas Cage. Sometimes I feel so angry,
like Nicolas Cage
in Wicker Man.
Sometimes I feel trapped,
also like Nicolas Cage
in Wicker Man.
It's mostly Wicker Man
now that I think about it.
Well, I essentially
put together a little bit
of research last night
and it was very much like
as soon as you make
this connection,
usual suspect style
drop the pot of coffee in slow motion.
Yeah.
Smash on the floor like, my God, I've just pieced it all together.
Yeah.
So talking about them coming from another world.
In Turkey, 1993, a group of construction workers were digging around in a pre-pottery Neolithic site.
Now, this era would be around the time of gobekli
tepe very very very early on now while they're working they stumbled upon pieces of a statue
broken up into four pieces once assembled the workers realized they had found the oldest
humanoid statue yet to be discovered in the world wow so that was essentially the first known sculpture
of a human humanoid type yeah uh statue i think we've talked about this site go back to the
tepe before the podcast but yeah people don't realize but this yes this is basically the
earliest known human kind of construction on the earth it's probably what is sitting around five
15 000 years old or something like that. Yeah, because originally, well, they thought it was the Mayans.
Yeah.
And then they found this and it's just completely thrown everything into disarray.
Now, this statue, commonly referred to as the Urfa Man, as I believe it was found around the Urfa region,
has all the characteristics of the normal human body.
Except.
Except, Kit.
What's this in my nose?
Rory, your eyes.
They're going black.
The statue's eye sockets had been filled with dark obsidian.
We are talking about a statue carved around 13,000 years ago with solid black eyes.
Wow.
And that's the first known sculpture of a human that's ever been found on this earth with black eyes wow and that's the first known uh sculpture of a human that's ever been found
on this earth with black eyes what i'm gonna do i've actually got a picture of it because
it's available to see in a museum you can actually go see it wow that's amazing this
is a picture of the statue i turned to stone drop dead yeah that thing's pretty creepy it's creepy
isn't it so could you remind the viewers what it is so they can Google it at home and look this up for themselves?
Yes, this is commonly referred to as the Urfa Man.
This is U-R-F-A Man.
Great.
Found, yeah, 13,000 years ago.
He truly does have black eyes.
And it's weird because they haven't just, like, carved sockets for where you could put eyes.
They filled it with obsidian, which is essentially just dark, dark stone.
He does look...
He's pretty tall.
It does look like he could be kind of early Slenderman type dude.
And I mean, we've talked.
We did an extensive podcast where I got very excited about the prospect of ancient aliens.
We won't go there again.
We talked about Neil Armstrong armstrong hunting for like
ancient libraries and these cultures that have all these um advanced technologies that shouldn't
have been available at the time now we're finding out that one of the earliest statues of humans
ever carved has black black orb like eyes could this possibly be a link to the beks that we see
wandering around the streets
stirring up shit in bathrooms and trying
to get into people's cars? And I mean,
we do know that whenever you go back that far in history,
you know, what were people building
statues of? What were people making
art about? It was generally,
you know, religious, spiritual,
otherworldly, paranormal
shit. Exactly.
Just a link. Just a link. i going to say that the two are
related yes because then if i don't that would unvalidate the link that i'm very proud of
constructing a narrative here exactly we're constructing an average what we do in this
podcast so that's all the evidence that i can present you withg on an a4 i swear where do you land on the black eyed kids i gotta say it's hard for me
to separate this idea of them just being normal kids whenever there is there is not much physical
evidence of them messing anybody up apart from a few nosebleeds right it's kind of you know i
think as i said before you got to be there to understand i think if i met one of these kids
i would probably freak out too but you probably go primal but it kind of it reminds me a little
and start throwing punches and bites in the middle of this like podcast outro i just start wailing on
a child there he is but it reminds me a little bit at what point is it you know legitimate paranormal
uh inquest and at what point is it superstition because you look at let's say tribal populations
and you know that little cute little bug-eyed uh lemur creature what are they called oh i know i
know bush baby type thing yeah you know in the places that those are indigenous to, they kill them on sight because they think
they're bad omens.
And of course.
Like our children.
Yeah, exactly.
And so we know that, we know that that's not true now.
We know we protect them and everything and there's nothing wrong with them.
They're cute as hell.
But they were killed for probably hundreds of years.
Yeah.
Because everyone told each other that they were dangerous when they never did anything wrong this is so much like uh so we went to the same school together in northern
ireland and for some reason this tradition had been passed down from year to year that that every
summer there'd be a certain point where a certain breed of caterpillar would start to come out into the fields and for some reason
much like these tribes it was just instilled knowledge that every child was very tribal
was that every lunchtime we would go out into the fields and mercilessly hunt down
every single one of these caterpillars yeah which were uh titled granny mush mushers yeah
yeah that's right i think because they were old looking and hairy and a bit gross one of these caterpillars. Yeah. Which were titled Granny Mush Mushes. Yeah. Yeah.
That's right.
I think because they were old
looking and hairy
and a bit gross.
I had completely
stomped them to death.
I'd completely
to the point where the school
had to erect a fence
so that we couldn't do it anymore.
And we were 17 at the time.
So
like I had completely
blanked out from my memory
until someone brought up
the Granny Mush Mushes.
Like do you remember?
Yeah.
The slaughter of the Granny Mush Mushes mush and i should qualify we weren't
17 we weren't 17 we were young foolish 15 tribal tribal kids uh same thing though same thing we
just probably thought it was bad luck bad omen exactly and i think that litters a lot of human
black eyed caterpillars it's like people have done crazy things out of that belief of superstition i
mean people kill their own kids they do like all sorts of crazy things yeah really weird stuff but
i do agree with you in the sense of i don't think there's enough of an impact on the witnesses
physical impact to instill a sense of reality yeah in these cases yeah i'm very curious though
in some ways i'd never really like to come across one so i could be proven wrong yeah i want to feel that sense of dread because i sometimes i get stressed quite easy if i get
like more than if there's 10 emails in my email box and i haven't i can't read them go primal
primal i start biting and punching any child that is near me. If Domino's texts me on a Tuesday, I will smash a coffee table.
I swear.
If it's freaking Domino's Tuesdays and Orange Wednesdays and they cross over at all,
I will, I legit, just primal, primal rage.
I also think, I'm going to go ahead and throw this out there.
I think I could beat up a black eyed kid.
I think I could do it.
If he wants to come into my house.
Love it.
You know, if they come up to here, if, you know, dark and stormy night, it's windy outside.
You hear that knock.
Oh, can we come in?
Yeah, come in, bitch.
I'm going to go down on you.
It's literally just like the kid comes in, sits on the table.
I pick up a baseball bat.
X going to give it to you
please say we need some help you just choke slam him through a table
um i think concluding on this episode we're both saying until i see more evidence i think i need a
bit more i i don't have enough to conclude. I can't say with full confidence
as a paranormal investigator,
professional paranormal investigator.
Yeah, with our reputations on the line.
I can't say it.
I'm sorry.
That's right.
I'm sorry at this point.
I cannot say the black eyed kids are real.
Unfortunately not.
But hopefully if you tune in next week,
we will find another case that is in fact real.
What are the odds of that? Very low. A a million to one but that's why you should come back because we're gonna make a million of these
podcasts so inevitably one of them is gonna be true yeah it's kind of true it's like we haven't
found alien life yet but shit the universe is a big place it's inevitable gotta find somewhere
find something uh if you've ever experienced a black eyed kid or anything with black eyes,
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