This Paranormal Life - #020 Robert the Cursed Doll

Episode Date: August 1, 2017

What happens when a children's toy is cursed with the "liquid of the dead"? This week we #investigate the case of Robert the cursed doll, and dive deep into a whirlpool of voodoo, hexes and delicious liqueurs. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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I mean, my God, getting so many good suggestions in the emails. I can barely keep up with them. I feel like I'm drowning in ghosts and goblins and ghouls. I can barely, so many emails that I can barely type out f*** you's fast enough to every single person that emails in.

So if you want a personalized hit the road text, just email us in. Just email us in and get out. So this week's request is from Marco Lombardi, a fellow woke man. Sounds like a liqueur.

It does, doesn't it? Oh, tall glass of Marco L lombardi do you think it would be sweet would it be would it be nice it'd be like uh like a liqueur like a uh sort of after dinner sort of yeah like a disaronno i want a marco lombardi on the rocks on the rocks and i've actually i've been slamming bottles of marco. I can see that around this room. Wow. Family life has been a bit tough. Really? Marco, he takes the edge off. Do you think alcohol is the answer?

Certainly, yes. You vomited over the mic. He's interested, Marco is interested in us investigating robert the cursed doll why did you laugh excuse me i think i read this email and um then you know not to laugh because robert the cursed doll is no laughing matter well thankfully i didn't get around to to researching this one personally so uh this will be all new to me i'm so glad to hear it because it's a it's a crazy story okay it's a real crazy story yeah debatable debatable so let's just just dive right into this please okay so in 1906 there lived a family in key west florida called the auto family

now they were a reasonably wealthy family. They had servants and a beautiful Victorian... Reasonably. They're a wealthy family. They have a borderline mansion. Borderline slaves. This nice Victorian home. But like many rich people, they were assholes. Yes.

Or at least they were rumored to be assholes. Apparently, the Otto family were allegedly very cruel to their servants and would often mistreat them wow so you got a rich family maybe beating their servants aka slaves i mean it's not a good this is florida they're probably feeding them to crocodiles oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it's gonna be bad. So after this has been going on for a while, one servant, a bohemian woman, was sick of being mistreated. Damn right. And finally decided to get her revenge.

That's right, slit their throats. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. No, it's the doll thing. You always go into throats. Yeah. Straight to throats with you. So this woman decides enough is enough.

She finally decides to get her revenge. Now, this woman decides enough is enough. She finally decides to get her revenge. Now, this woman, some say she was skilled in voodoo and black magic. And to get back at the family, she took a doll and cursed it. Whoa. Filling it with hate and evil. How does one curse a doll? Well, some say she crafted it with human blood and hair He craft a doll out of blood, I don't know like like bleed on it like make the doll but bleed on it

Yeah, I mean I would brush your teeth too hard and get a little bit of blood on it So she she crafted it with human blood and hair.'ll leave that the details to that to your to your own imagination uh again getting even weirder allegedly she stuffed the doll with rags soaked in quote unquote the liquid of the dead whoa which actually would be a cool line for marco lomb, if he was a drink. Liquid of the dead. I mean, cool. A tall glass of Marco Lombardi. Liquid of the dead. I think I'll just go with the six pack of Desperados, actually. Are you sure?

Yeah, I'm very, very sure. A special offer, two for one, liquid of the dead cocktail. I'll throw in the Smirnoff ice. Cursed Smirnoff. Please buy some. I really overestimated how much the public would be into Marco Lombardi. My children are starving. Ironically, they are almost dead.

This liquid of the dead ironically is going out of date extremely soon but also so on top of all of this she's making this doll just to reiterate what do we got here made with human blood real person's hair stuffed with

rags soaked in the liquid of the dead and they don't know that they just take the doll they're like hiding over this like soaking blood doll just and it's like oh they just put like a little paddington bear like coat over it like it's so cute what i'm hearing in all this is that in 1906 people didn't have monster.com or zip recruiter or linkedin that they could you know find qualified candidates for their jobs and instead they ended up hiring i mean by all accounts murderers yes that had vials of liquid of the dead well to be fair i mean this woman maybe she was a nice woman but these this family pushed her they pushed her

remember they pushed i mean all of us have a limit yeah i mean you come at me i will make a doll for you so hard i will make i will doll the shit out of you sitting on a throne of dolls oh man you know what even better i actually have a picture of the doll wow i printed it out right now why does it have another smaller doll i don't know okay there's a lot to digest here folks so for those listening at home the doll is a sailor it's a little sailor boy he's a sailor doll um he has a little uh dog or bear the boy doll itself um it kind of looks like a like a crash test dummy you know just like a little bit like a mannequin it's a bit done in

but with its face kind of smashed in in certain areas and like a monkey it's just it's disturbingly sort of featureless yeah it's like barely got a nose or lips or anything. It's very disturbing. Just kind of dark, piercing eyes. I mean, not something you want to have around the house. It is a bit monkey-like. Yeah, it is like a monkey face. I don't know what it is. But that's what we're working with here.

Cursed AF. That's Robert the doll. Apparently, the son, Robert Eugene Otto, you know, he's a young guy. He's an idiot, and he took to the doll immediately. Yeah. He fell in love with it. I guess you don't have too many toys back then. You take what you young guy. He's an idiot. And he took to the doll immediately. Yeah. He fell in love with it. I guess you don't have too many toys back then.

You take what you can get. That's it. 1906. He hasn't even got a... He probably doesn't even have a Beyblade. I mean, he probably doesn't even have Pokemon cards. Yeah, this kid has nothing. So, yeah, he's got this cursed little blood doll.

I mean, what does he have? A loving family? That is shit compared to Yu-Gi-Oh! Oh, what would you prefer? A girlfriend or Dragoon? What would you prefer a girlfriend or dragoon what would you prefer three girlfriends yeah or three blue eyes white dragons obviously the dragons i mean my god you sleep with blue-eyed white dragons you can't sleep with girls girls have cooties dragons have blue eyes beautiful blue eyes so as were saying, he took to the doll immediately

and he called the doll Robert after himself, the narcissistic little prick. Little bitch. You'd be kind of disappointed if your kid did that, right? Why? If you got your kid a toy or something and it was like, I love it. I will call it me.

Me. You called the last three toys we got you me. Well, it's worth noting, he actually goes by his middle name, Gene. Okay. So they call him Gene and he kind of calls himself Gene. So this is Robert. So one night, the parents of Gene were relaxing in their lovely home when they heard voices coming from his room

obviously confused they slowly made their way to his bedroom door and through the walls they could hear gene talking with robert the doll oh no now you assume that gene is doing both the voices just be like hi hi i'm robert the I'm Jean. How are you doing today? I'm going to f***ing kill you initially. Yeah, they obviously thought that was Jean talking back. But the voice that was talking back to Jean, the voice of Robert, was so deep and guttural. They found it hard to believe it was coming from their son. Is he talking with the doll?

What are your thoughts, kid? Is it possible? I mean, we know under what context this morbid creature has been delivered. Very reminiscent of, was it the Enfield haunting? And it was the little girl. And this was popularly... That's very right. This is popularly popular depicted in the what movies was it was like uh it wasn't like the conjuring or something like that

it was conjuring too they did the infield yeah yeah and the little girl is like uh talking and this demon voice is coming through it but they're kind of and this is based on a real event supposedly they're trying to work out how possible is it that this is actually coming from the little girl because as you say it's that's like is it too deep and guttural yeah there's no reason for why it should other than it looks like a little boy i mean it's not like it has like vocal cords or like lungs or any of the capacity to do so it's like it might as well be a chair talking it's like um like i got this gift from uh my servant terry i i beat him a lot i mean just for context um but he's a good guy he's a great guy and he gave me this whoa i mean it's dripping a couple weeks ago that'll be the liquid of the

dead right he said it's prone to leakage yeah he. He called it that? Really? Yeah. Yeah. So this is a. I mean. His name is me. Your hands are burning. Oh, God. Oh, yeah. He'll do that. He'll do that.

I think it's on fire. I think it's like a battery thing. He's like a Furby. If you shake him enough, he says things. Look. If you just shake him a little bit. Lightning. Lightning is emitting out of his eyes.

I put him down there. i think i got actually a little a little bit of the liquid of the dead in my mouth yeah yeah yeah yep that's mario lombardi i can taste it yeah that's straight lombardi you got any ice around here so let's move on with the story we've already heard a little bit about what this doll is capable of. And this wouldn't be the only strange occurrence to take place. In the coming months, Gene would also frequently blame Robert the doll for a lot of accidents. Lamps falling off of walls, plates being smashed, tearing in his clothes and hiding objects around the house.

This Gene kid sounds like a little shit. Every time his parents tried to yell at him, he would say, Robert did it. We're on the same page here. Yeah. The dolls messing with shit in the house. Yeah. And this poor kid is having to take the blame for it. Yeah, exactly right.

I mean, these parents are mad if they cannot see that. So eventually, like all kids gene grew up and he moved to paris to further pursue his career in the arts okay cool i can imagine this as well after gene leaves for paris oh robert has weirdly stopped f***ing with the house. He's really calmed down. That's weird, isn't it? So after years of living away, Gene eventually returned to West Quay with his new wife to move back into his old Victorian

home. And despite being older now, Gene was still weirdly attached to the doll. In fact, it's rumored it's rumored that he he it's it's rumored that he even set up a small room in the house with furniture and fittings scaled down to robert's size so robert i see you've been working on the house yes you've been working on the house Yes, I have been working on the house

So many fond memories I remember being a little lad running down these halls with Robert Oh, the days we spent together Sorry, who's Robert? Robert! Robert, my friend from home You know what? We'll go see him

He's in this room down here Now, bear in mind The hallway gets a little tighter as we go down this side of the wall. Hunch your back, dear. Oh, my Christ. Get on your knees. Jesus. Now, we'll just pop in here for a sec.

There he is. Robert. He's got his hand around her neck. He's a tiny room. He's a tiny room. He's a tiny room. With a tiny room like with like little furniture little bed little chair okay apparently when people entered the room he would just be sitting there motionless watching them i mean you would hope he'd be motionless you'd be more worried if

he was sitting there motion full doing a front flip watching he was He was flexing. He was punching his own fists. He was sitting there jerking it, watching them. Oh my god. So neighbors at this time would claim that the sound of creepy laughter would leak from the house and the silhouette of Robert the doll

could be seen against the windows of the house as he moved throughout the night. Wow. We're beyond talking now. This doll is up. He's running about. He's laughing. He's giggling.

He's sentient. Jesus. This isn't a curse anymore. He's alive. So I wonder, was he doing this when when eugene was away this is it you know well because allegedly i believe that gene's parents still lived in the house but i don't know they probably don't have great memories of of robert if the kid blamed robert for every bad thing that happened yeah i guess presumably they did put him in the attic or put

him in a box yeah so now now that uh Gene's back and he's out of the box, he probably wants to stretch his little demon legs and stir up some bad shit, you know? Totally. Giggle, have a good time. Now, these strange activities continued until 1974 when Gene unfortunately died. Whoa.

I know. His wife, Anne, moved out of the house and obviously didn't take robert with her i mean obviously she's probably so freaking ecstatic that she can actually get away from this i mean she killed eugene at this point to get away from robert although i would love it so much imagine uh you uh gene is dead they've had the funeral. She's called into the lawyer's office with all the surrounding family. Thank you, everyone, for coming here.

My name is James Solicitor. It's my duty to report the separation of Mr. Jean Otto's estate. Yes. To my loving cousins, Anne and Timothy, I leave you my collection of vintage cars so you too can traverse the planes of life.

Please, would you hold your tongue for a minute, Anne? We're on the cousins. To my stepbrother, Alexander, I leave to you... Nothing. Please, Anne, please stop. I will get to you eventually. Disrespectful in these circumstances. To you, I leave my estate. What? Anne, please, there's something coming to you eventually. Disrespectful in these circumstances. To you I leave my estate.

What? Please, there's something coming to you. To my beloved Anne. Love of my life. Jewel of my crown. Heart in my body. Soul of my shoe. Long-winded, yes. I leave to you my

most treasured item. Robert the doll. The f***. Now Anne, please, there are more items here on the list for you. You also now are in possession of one, Robert's little bed. Two, Robert's little chair. It never ends. Three, Robert's little footst chair. It never ends. Three, Robert's little footstool.

It never ends. So after Anne is gone, Robert remained in the house. And the strange occurrences actually continued. Even without anyone having links to him. Yeah. He would terrorize new tenants and utility workers who came to the house. People would say that they'd be looking at Robert sitting there, and then the second they'd look away and hear a noise,

when they looked back, he would have moved ever so slightly. He'd move from a relaxing position to flipping them off across the room. He was basically terrorizing in a very small scale way i mean because that's not massive no it's not like haunting your dreamless uh terrorizing everyone who lived in the house until it just became way too much and robert was packed away by the current tenants damn i i am confused as to how like his kryptonite is like a box yeah i mean why take him out stop taking him out yeah put him in the box for sure because we're up to when did i say these guys moved back to the house 70 oh he died in 75 he died in yeah so i mean this thing isn't even in 1974 he died

this thing was made in like early 1900s get a new doll yeah that's hideous that one's horrible get one of those ones that you can like make like drink fake milk and piss everywhere or eat berries or something like a real baby i don't know how babies work what are you like put berries in them and they just shit everywhere now you think he's back in his box. This would be the end of it. But no, he's unstoppable. Robert surfaced again. This is when a new family moved in and found the doll in the attic, stuffed away.

Oh no. Their 10-year-old daughter welcomed the old doll, becoming its new owner. Kids are so stupid. But she too would learn of its secret terrors now allegedly this 10 year old daughter there's a couple things that happened to her so apparently she would scream in the night shouting that robert was moving robert's back on his bullshit messing with people again you gotta stop letting him out of the box guys uh and on at least one occasion

she claims to this day that the doll tried to kill her holy damn and at no point the parents just thought i mean cut our losses just throw this thing out presumably if he's trying to strangle you is he still though just the strength of a doll yeah like because he's you can imagine he's trying to strangle you is he still though just the strength of a doll yeah like because he's you can imagine he's got like a scary head and he comes at you in the night but then he wraps his little cotton hands around you and it kind of tickles a little bit and you're like giggling but like a little scared but i mean really scared but yeah you could definitely overpower him so in the end after all of this robert the doll was ultimately given to the east martello museum where it has been on display locked behind glass ever since which is where that's the context

of that photo yeah at the museum that's why he's got like a professional photo shoot yeah he's been really really looks like a kind of prison cell i would say yeah i know it's quite creepy yes uh now i like the way in this image robert's got like loads of articles strewn about the room as if he's a crazed detective i'm really glad you brought that up kit because that is my next point oh in the exhibit as you see in these photos and a lot of his photos there's a bunch of what looks like letters and notes written on the walls so when robert is open to the public obviously people come from all over the world to get a picture of the doll or a picture taken with the doll but apparently when he's on display before taking a picture of Robert each

person must first ask for his permission if his head tilts that means permission has not been granted that's not good jesus christ that's terrifying now those letters that you see in the background yes were letters sent to the museum by people who took pictures of robert without permission and they contain true testimonies of the bad luck and misfortune that have followed people since they did it those Those letters, they've had to write to the museum asking for forgiveness for Robert. Jesus. Because they've clearly done it without his permission.

Bad stuff has happened. And they're like, okay, I thought this was a joke, but I need things to go back to normal now, so I'm going to write a letter. And those are all the letters that have been written in. Apparently they get something like, along with fan mail, they've already got like a thousand letters written in.

The impression I've got through the story you've told so far is that this is contained to the first family, Eugene's family. Yes. Then Eugene's wife and then the family that later moves into the house. But then like this, this thing gets fast tracked into a museum. So this was obviously well known. It must have been because I mean, if you look at it, as I said, at one point, locals are saying he's running about. There's laughter.

There's been multiple tenants in this house, all of which have been haunted unless they have a box. So there's a lot of stuff going on here. It's wider than the family. Who has a box? I know. They're hard to come by. So basically, as soon as he hits the museum,

that basically rounds off the story of Robert the cursed doll. But I didn't want to end it there. And I wanted to do a little bit more research into some other cursed dolls to see if maybe this wasn't a one-off maybe there's some other ones out there these are some cases that i found from wikipedia but i checked the citation and it's all legit the first up was the one i found was a voodoo zombie doll okay seems to be a lot of voodoo now this doll was originally made in new orleans and sold through ebay the spookiest of all platforms to a woman to a woman in texas in 2004

now the original ebay seller's advertisement stated that the doll was very active and almost alive sound like someone we know yeah it does a little bit the doll arrived in a metal box jesus christ and included a list of rules to follow while owning it mainly to not remove it from the box you should have known it was coming in a metal box and ebay shipping was six600. This woman removed the doll from the box. Wow. Removing it from the silver casing. Now, after this, the woman claimed that the doll repeatedly attacked her. Jesus Christ.

In what way? Like, just like battery? I don't know. Can you imagine your surprise? You just bought like a nice little thing off ebay imagine buying anything off ebay you just open just casually unwrap the little packaging and before you know it you're just getting pounded in the face yeah i i once accidentally won a box of furbies in an ebay bid oh yeah that's the closest i've ever been i think i didn't think i would win it and then i just no one outbid me and the box of furbies showed up on my my doorstep and like even when it was delivered

like you slam it down on the desk and it's like oh yum we eat and it's like i should not open the box i had a fairly disturbing uh interaction with a furby around that time um as well i remember that someone was like someone's messing around with my furby around that time um as well that i remember that someone was like someone's messing around with my furby and like playing with him and then like i accidentally dropped dropped my furby on his head and he picks it up and its eyes are just like rolling around kind of in its head and just being like what is love it was it was extremely disturbing i literally had to put it under a pillow because it wouldn't shut up i was just like i'll deal with this brain damage for a bit later

aka tie it in a bag and throw it in a river um so the woman the woman claims the doll it was more it was uh abused her it haunted her dreams attacked her repeatedly she even went as far as to relist the the uh doll on ebay many times however it's been oh my god however each time she managed to sell the doll the new buyer would receive an empty box on their doorstep meanwhile the doll would keep reappearing in her house like it never also that sucks because her ebay feedback is to be slammed. People being like, I am not delivered. I mean, armed battery aside, the eBay feedback dip is the worst bit. That's got to be the worst bit.

That stuff sticks with you, you know? Jesus. Many years later, she was finally able to pass it off to a ghost hunter, to a fellow paranormal investigator who owns it to this day um and i think is still trying to like find out the secret to it which is pretty cool i mean it was something that i thought we should look into like buying a cursed doll or something is that that box in the corner that's that's not what this one yeah yeah i won't open it though i won't open it i won't open it yeah yeah i'll just set it here so that... Oh, God! It's out, it's out!

Step on it, step on it! Oh, my God, he's got a knife. Tuck your socks into your trousers. Why do you have knives? He's nippy. He's a nippy one. He's dripping juice everywhere. The next one that I looked at was a haunted doll called Mandy.

Okay. This one's a little bit more simpler. So Mandy was made between 1910 and 1920. We're not quite sure. Oh, Mandy was a porcelain doll. So that's a little bit more simpler so mandy was made between 1910 and 1920 we're not quite sure oh mandy was a porcelain doll so that's already a bit different already creepier yeah uh and was owned for many years by a woman who claimed that she would hear the doll crying from the basement she was kept in i know that's i mean that's not good smash it yeah because you can smash a porcelain doll that's an easy way to get rid of it. You have to be pretty cool if a little porcelain doll is crying

and you just smash its face off a sink. Good night. Now for an ice cold glass of Lombardi. That's, you know how like these really pretentious liquors have these like adverts that don't make any sense this is the advert for lombardi it's like a porcelain doll someone just hits it with a hammer and it's like

liquid of the day sales are through the floor you just keep cranking out the advertising you're like i honestly thought people would connect with this advert i don't know why this isn't flying off the shelves if we ever if we do like a live podcast or something yes we should uh we should make marco lombardi cocktails oh my god that would be great like serve that throughout the night and smash dolls on stage stinky and dead looking yeah i like it but super strong yeah so mandy did a lot of creepy stuff okay um she was eventually donated to a museum but at the museum mandy continued to cause mischief for the employees what are these museums have you ever been to a museum with a cursed doll

well i mean we both went to the British Museum and I mean that's artifacts from longer ago than just the 1900s mostly but I don't know maybe there's some like crazy cursed African artifacts that's true and they are all in boxes yeah exactly under wraps Mandy would cause a bunch of shit

she would be displayed with other dolls but she had to be moved because she would knock the other dolls over so she had to get moved because she would knock the other dolls over. So she had to get her own case. Just like weird stuff. Visitors to the museum would say that her eyes would blink or follow you wherever you walked. So obviously my next step is, you know, we got people. It doesn't seem like these dolls are hard to get, to come by.

So I did a little research myself. Yeah. And I didn't make any purchases. Yeah. But I went on eBay and I went on amazon and i did some hunting for some cursed dolls wow you can buy these things people you can people selling cursed dolls uh the most popular ones are the voodoo dolls okay yeah yeah well there's some you put pins in and they hurt people or some you put in like the money pin and you get like good stuff money yeah or i mean a lot of it was very weird but i thought what a better way to get an idea of whether these dolls actually work or not than to read some reviews get some comments

oh cool so i picked out a couple of my favorite ones this was a comment from amazon five stars i ordered three of these one for me two for a neighbor who needs to hex a few people they're quite colorful and each is a little different i'm feeling fairly fortunate as there is no one in my current life that needs to be hexed but i'm ready so this person doesn't even need the doll but he wants it that's terrifying so like just think about that next time you're driving a car and you're about to like pull out and someone they might have boxes of cursed dolls waiting at home yeah holy crap ready to stab it bill herman again five stars his review was titled dangerous whoa uh comments being uh it's

unbelievably authentic but please be careful the black magic is real so word from bill there who has obviously tried the product believes in the occult and just a word of warning in case you do pick up this amazon reviews have a subject line dangerous followed by five stars? It's like a pack of steak knives. Five stars. But dangerous. Watch out. The knives are sharp.

The magic is real. I, Nemesis65, five stars. I hexed my neighbor just to see if it would work. So far, he lost his job, wife, and kids. my neighbor just to see if it would work so far he lost his job wife and kids so far like what else can happen you're a dick i nemesis you you hexed him to see if it would work i guess what did you expect with a username like that deb centers again five stars the best thing to help you get through a nasty divorce. Jesus. Three exclamation points. Whoa.

Charlene, another great review. And she said, so this is why I like Charlene. She bought one of the dolls you can use for multiple purposes. And she bought it and used it for love, like the love charms and love luck. She said, it really did work. I did mines for love. And me and my boyfriend are now more in love than ever oh that's cute so i you know that's i want to show a bit of the other side to it which is you

know it's not all about bad so if you buy a frying pan right on amazon there is like a set of criteria uh to which you would judge it and rate it give it a a star rating. Exactly. So it's like, is it a good frying pan? Does it do the job? Cook the food. Does it cook the food? Is it long-lasting, durable, quality? Yeah. What are the criteria by which you give a cursed doll a five-star review?

Is it the build quality? Is it the quality of hex? I mean, the build quality has got to be at least two of those stars, right? Yeah. Is it big enough? Is it soft enough that you can put the needles in it? But for what? I don't know.

I guess. I guess. Yeah. I guess if you put a needle in it, you want the needle to stay in. Yeah. You don't want the needle to just fall right out again and like fall in you and suddenly you have a terminal illness or something i don't it seemed like a mix of people buying it for novelty purposes and obviously rating it five

stars because it is accomplishing that goal of a couple not good stars because people genuinely want to cause pain and suffering right i saw one person give it a zero star review and said, I put pins in its eyes and no one felt anything. One star. I felt sad. It worked on me. Why did you want that to happen? It's crazy. That's dark.

So how much does a cursed doll run you these days? Cursed doll is actually very affordable. Yeah. So these, the ones on Amazon are much more of the voodoo type once you get on ebay uh dot com and dot co.uk you're looking at dolls that are specifically cursed so if you want to vintage vintage cursed dolls if you want to experience this paranormal activities maybe we'll get one down the line i don't really want to do that because i'm a little scared yeah uh but maybe if we want to shoot that lombardi drink ad we might have to buy a cursed porcelain doll.

I'm thinking business idea. And anyone out there in the listenership, feel free to just run with this one because Lord knows I'm not going to remember it. We buy in dolls by the bucket load and we start cursing these bad boys. Ten a penny. Right.

And then flipping them for four times as much okay and what amount of loanie looking for for this project mr mr five million dollars jesus christ jesus christ it's a bargain what would these funds be for you have five million dollars to buy lombardi curse fluids. I love that. He's like, and what would you be spending the money on? Well, shit. I didn't know there would be follow-up questions. I didn't actually think I'd get this far. I reckon two mil on the curses.

Five on the doll. That's seven million. What did we say we were going to get get you're so drunk on lombardi teeth are bright black at this point you're a doll why are you covered in pins? Acupuncture calms the nerves. Before a big pitch. Jesus Christ, aren't you supposed to take the pins out? What? What?

Bleeding from every orifice. Just liquid of the dead seeping from every pinhole. Good God. All right. Let's get back on track here. Please. I've given you a couple cases. I've gone as far to say if you want one, you can buy your own cursed doll.

I mean, that's a first for this podcast. I know. You can't buy your own Bigfoot. You can't buy your own alien. That's right. You can experience this one head on. Exactly. So, in terms of a conclusion, where's your head at, Kit?

Let's talk this one out. Well, it's definitely... Real. Excuse you. It's definitely surprising to me that it ever became taken so seriously as to be in a museum and everything that yeah you know and obviously with multiple dolls this is obviously um a common enough thing it's a popular thing and there's definitely a sort of anthropological history cultural history with these dolls you know across the voodoo traditions in the caribbean creole traditions that's all very

interesting some of the bits don't really add up i would say the kind of box thing is weird it's like you remember that simpsons halloween episode where all of the the mascots for all the companies start coming to life and wrecking the city oh yeah and the way to stop it is just don't look at them and they all just like kind of perish and die out i forgot about that one that's basically what this is with robert it wasn't he didn't start kicking off and wrecking stuff again until gene came back from paris and took and gave him his own room yeah you give him his own room he's gonna be throwing pipe bombs down the street he's gonna be kicking off that's true i mean this is like you know like with with pop stars and like kids celebrities like you take a justin bieber it's like you give a kid that much fame no wonder he's driving lamborghinis

into the lamppost and snorting cocaine you gotta put him in a box and bury him you can't give him that kind of attention it's crazy same with roberto over here these stories don't really happen anymore do they no not as much it's like these kind of stories are relegated it's like a simpler time when like maybe people have more active imaginations but i feel like kids these days are too plugged into like angry birds to notice yeah like their toys hunting them quite quite mature as well to be like even if you think you saw it moving you'd be like oh no that's bullshit because it's not real and then you go back to angry birds what do you make of you were the you were the researcher tonight yeah i was a

researcher and it took me to some weird places i saw a lot of weird things i mean we talked about curses before yes i find that interesting you. Let's not forget the heritage of this doll. Yes. The creation with magic and hate and the blood and liquid and all that stuff. That's true. In terms of the doll being sentient and talking and walking about, I think in this case, I'm going to have to say it's not real. Yeah.

Unfortunately. I think it's interesting. I think we've got more dolls to look at and if anyone goes out there and purchases either a voodoo doll please don't use the doll on me please don't use it i just can't deal with that i feel like every day people are using dolls on me already you know i don't need that shit i feel cursed enough i was born cursed um but if you want to buy one of those ones that curses you, or one of the creepy ones from eBay,

please let us know. Send us pictures. How has it wrecked your life? That's right. I want to hear about it. I think I'm going to have to come down on a no too. It's a double no. I think that's where we're coming down tonight.

We knew it was a bit far-fetched, but we like investigating these ones anyway. It's an entertaining story. We had a lot of fun with it that's right and if you have your own paranormal tale or a story that you want to see us investigate again please email us in at this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com i think that mostly wraps it up one thing i want to talk about before we go not relating to the porcelain doll but right before we started this podcast kit looked me in the eyes and told me that he had a nightmare the other day about the black-eyed kids which is amazing i told you not to bring this up dude not cool i have to hear about

this because this is why i find weird i mean you didn't even research that one like i spent hours reading about these kids and now they're in your dreams yes and with you yeah i mean please i think i'm writing saying that i like i was quite disparaging of that on the podcast too i think i kind of shut it down did i say they were real i should really keep track of what i'm saying yeah it's it's not great integrity on our behalf is it yeah so i have this dream that okay i hear a knocking at my door shit they're here ptsd it was really rolling around the floor i hear a knocking at my door and it's very late at night and i go downstairs and i kind of i have like i don't have like one of those little peepholes so i just kind of you know the way you like your door can go the latch oh yeah i open it like enough to look through and it's pitch black outside not even lit by the moonlight and i can

just see the shadowy outline of a black eyed kid god and they're just going like i need help like please just let me in and i'm like i i i don't know what to do and they're just whispering it they're just like i need help just like let me in i need to come jesus christ and then i'm and i can't really hear because they're so quiet so i'm kind of going closer and closer like trying to hear like what what specifically like what like what's wrong with you? Do I really need to help you right now? Yeah. And like, as I get closer, they get quieter and quieter.

I'm leaning in closer to this tiny gap in the door, just my eye trying to look through and they're going, please let me in, let me in, I need help, let me in. And then I feel a cold blade right against my forehead. And they're like cackling like, and they've got like a little knife against my face. I'm like, holy f***. And I think they're like holding on to me because I feel stuck beside the door. But this like knife is right beside my eye. And then I like fall back and the door like flies off the latch.

Jesus Christ. This was, like, flies off the latch. Jesus Christ. This was a, you had this dream? Yes. And this black, shadowy little kid, he's, turns out, he's like a proper little, like, Peter Pan, like, shadow child. Oh, God. He doesn't have any form. He just busts through the door and runs off down the corridor into my house.

I'm stuck inside my house with a little black-eyed kid that has a knife. Oh, God. And I wake up. door into my house i'm stuck inside my house with a little black eyed kid that has a knife oh god and i wake up you woke up then with a knife mark on my forehead christ that's creepy that is really yeah it is creepy so i actually did throw this out in the twitter uh at at this para life oh yeah check out the twitter account and the facebook page as well and i threw up that story to see what people were saying and we actually got a lot of turns out our listeners have been having a lot of nightmares guys maybe we want to stop listening i don't know i want to cool off for a few weeks um but i did have um one uh sentiment and if you check the replies you can read this for

yourself but um this was one listener and they were saying that they had actually, weirdly, had quite a similar real-life interaction recently of having, like, an unknown caller at their door

very late at night. And it was actually pretty cool because it turns out, like, they're a black belt and they had, like, a katana and I think the boyfriend had a gun. So they're actually way better at handling this situation than I was.

There's definitely something weird there about the kind of similar date overlapping of me having this weird dream and them having that interaction. That is weird. Kind of weird. And as we said with the B.E.K.'s, Black-eyed kids, there's a paranormal aspect to them. They have some correlation with the men in black, who we will cover in a later podcast. But it's interesting. It's spooky.

As I said, again, I will reiterate, if you have your own crazy paranormal tale or have anyone you want us to investigate, email us in thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. I think that about wraps us up for this week. And remember, when you want to send an email, remember to pour an ice cold glass of Lombardi, liquid of the day. This podcast is sponsored by Squarespace,

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