This Paranormal Life - #025 The Philadelphia Experiment: The Ship that Disappeared

Episode Date: September 5, 2017

What happens when a secretive WWII experiment that could turn Navy ships completely invisible goes wrong? Disintegrating bodies, time travel and men merged with boats... all on this episode of This Paranormal Life.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Does the recent solar eclipse mean that we have to sacrifice more to Ra? Are the voices in my head right? And I should do what they tell me, even if I know I shouldn't? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life. It should also be said that voice is Ra. Both of those were Ra-based intros. I hear them when I sleep, when I wake, when my eyes are open, when my eyes are closed, and when I die.

Welcome to the podcast. I am your host today, Mr. Kit Greer. As always, joined by my professional paranormal host investigator, Mr. Rory Powers. Pleasure to be here. Praise Ra. It is another glorious day. Another glorious day. Another glorious Tuesday. We're back Another glorious day. Another glorious Tuesday.

We're back on a Tuesday. That's it. Yeah. Ra sponsored this podcast and brought us back on a Tuesday. If you guys have ever wondered why we don't run advertisers, it's because we're always being sponsored by Ra. How are you doing today, Rory? I'm pretty good. Yeah, I'm ready to be spooked. I'm ready to investigate some serious cases. I have a serious be spooked. I'm ready to investigate some serious cases. I have a serious one for you.

I mean, this isn't just history. This isn't just speculative. This is military history. Make believe. Military history. Oh, that's my favorite. This is fun because it gives it some grinding. To build on. You know, because this is the world of war and death and the stakes are high okay yes so

you ever hear i'm gonna tell you a little story right now it's called uh the three little motherfucking piggies one little piggy built his house on i actually don't remember where wasn't it sand was it sand and some water came and washed it away something like that and then another one lost his house too. Turns out it's actually a pretty elaborate story. It's really hard to remember. Point being, the pig had survived. Uh-huh.

Shit, it wasn't the land. It was what they built their house out of. Well, he built his house on and out of rock. And that's what this episode is built out of. On and and of rock. We built this podcast on rock and or roll. It wasn't what they built it on at all. Because what would the wolf have done?

You didn't even mention the wolf. I so poorly remember this fable. Yeah, like the wolf's going to show up like, I can't blow your house down. You built it on stone doesn't make any sense well that myth's busted anyway okay so one mystery solved folks okay okay let me just get cut right to the chase here okay how much do you know about a little known guy called einstein a lot really yeah gravity. Wright, wasn't that him?

People lived in zero Gs before Einstein was born. He invented light speed or something. E equals MC squared. Boom. Nice, dude. That was something he did. The fact that you just gave me a legitimate answer makes me worry that those answers previous were not humorous guesses. Three legitimate questions.

Okay. Three little piglets all built on stone. Bad of you. Right. E equals MC squared squared you're absolutely correct that is um his most famous uh formula a super genius why one of the most intelligent men who ever ever lived did you know einstein was offered like israeli like presidency or something after the war and he was like no i'm not a man of politics. I'm a man of science. Wow, that's so badass. Yeah. I wish I felt that strongly about anything.

Ever. Like, I'll literally just go wherever pays best. Yeah, like imagine you were offered the position of prime minister of this country. Yeah, I'll take it. Wait, where are we going with that? Are you offering it to me now absolutely like what would you turn it on for oh right if i was offered that yeah it's something else yeah yeah i guess well yeah but i'm not einstein is a wise man yeah i feel like his knowledge could make him would make him

a great leader yeah i don't really have that in me right yeah you're you're more of a coward actually i'm more of a coward and i i have a lot of prejudices about certain groups i'm less about it's actually a patreon tier you can find out which groups i am prejudiced towards i'm less about kind of rallying people in a community i i'm more about kind of dividing and conquering yeah i don't really like people i like to repel people i don't like to build people up but rather to break people down yeah it makes me feel better about myself yeah so around the 40s albert einstein had brought forth this idea of a unified field theory. A theory so groundbreaking, so powerful, so ingenious, that it would revolutionize the world. It would explain all electromagnetic

fields, and it would have powerful effects not only for physics, but for technology too. But for all of Einstein's brilliance, he never solved it. He solved E equals mc squared, he never solved this unified field theory. He never proposed a generally accepted unified field theory. No one did and that's why we don't have one today. Damn, or so we think. My god. Fast forward to 1943. The US is deep in the war. World War II, baby. Wartime. A time when every minor technological advancement could be the difference between life or death when the ancient greeks were fighting the persians they developed metal armor instead of leather suddenly they're chopping off heads like it's nobody's business and just

taking spears to the chest i miss the days where that was an invention swapping materials i could have been an inventor i think i could have been the einstein of war if i had been born in the right era to be fair though you're not going to catch me melting down iron ore and sculpting it into sheets of metal that's very fair because i was literally just going to say if you know when we were fighting with cutlasses and i shot me and like here use this but i can't make a gun no i only know how to hand people a gun and cock them maybe not even that i'm like here use this magazine falls out bullets everywhere ah shit i've never actually held one of these before do you ever think about that that if the world was to go to shit tomorrow right could you

so much as repair a clock well time would be obsolete presumably that's already a bad attitude why is that your apocalypse that's your first apocalypse goal repair a clock okay for food not like save your family okay okay okay i'm just talking technology bro all right all right let me let me make take it back a notch for you could you grow a potato oh shit like i wouldn't even know what time to cook the potato for well in this clockless apocalypse has it been buried since like how you plant it and then was it buried for like a month or for six months or two years before it's been 15 minutes how do you know i don't know how do any of us know it's the o'clockalypse

like i i mean it's kind of like let's be honest with ourselves guys if you actually had to you know like in school you know you sit your exam and it's like detail in 10 steps you have the process of like dna replication in the human body right and you you're like all right i'm gonna ace this i revised this super hard if you had to answer a 10 step thing of how to grow crops no one could do that we're all screwed nobody knows no one could do that it's also like this is a really fun example of this how like pathetic you realize you are as a human being yeah i had this the other day where i thought my phone was charging but instead uh it wasn't actually plugged in so i overslept my alarm didn't go off i woke up in the morning in sheer panic because it's bright daylight

i've clearly overslept so i go over and punch my phone it's dead and i hit this panic where i'm just looking around my room screaming what else tells time what tells time and you had the goal to get at me for talking about clocks but honestly i didn't know i didn't know what to do i had to run downstairs and check it on the oven yes which is always wrong the oven clock is never right it always says midday yeah so i just had to wait till my phone restarted to find out what time it was which is insane how pathetic we are back in the day you used to call the lady that you'd call then what was even the number it was like accuracy the time sponsored by accuracy is and then whatever. But no one even has one of those phones anymore. And your phone was dead.

It's crazy. Jesus Christ. Crazy stress. Stress is thinking about it. All right. Jesus Christ, man. I've got ulcers. The apocalypse is coming, guys.

I'm not trying to wind you up. Oh. We are ticking closer to the end. Time's up. I was a bit more on the nose. A bit more on the end. Time's up. That was a bit more on the nose. A bit more on the nose. Yeah, like I said, they were developing new armor

and that allowed them to crush the Persians. During the First World War, when the Allies were struggling on the Western Front, the British developed a tank and suddenly they're wiping the battlefields because no one had ever seen that before. Well, World War II was no different. The U.S. government was looking at Einstein's egghead theories and working out how to use them in war.

Nice. They were just an army general looking at a chalkboard. What I'm seeing from all these ones and zeros is how we could get more bullets into a gun. I love it. It's like he looks at this giant chalkboard of all of Einstein's equations. My God. He just starts connecting up all the letters. He just draws a tank.

He's like, I see it now. He's like, that doesn't make any sense. You're drawing a tank using letters. He starts wiping out all the equations. He starts drawing more tanks. It's beautiful. Tanks and skulls. You, sir, are a genius.

You, sir, could take the afternoon off. I got a lot of work to do here. Take the afternoon off. It's 9 a.m. Really? I don't have a clock. Will you drive me towards the nearest oven, please? I don't know where i am uh they worked out that if they could generate a powerful enough electromagnetic field they could

disrupt the space-time continuum itself bend light around an object rendering it invisible wow i guess it's a bit like uh you know, I don't know, that's why black holes work or some shit, that they're so dense that light bends around them and gets sucked in and no light escapes, so you can't even see them. So the light would get sucked in by the force of this giant electromagnet. I guess.

But then wouldn't you just be able to see the giant electromagnet it's like a man holding a cloaking device uh-huh but now there's just a man walking with his hands out like do you understand the theory right unless the field bends around the magnet i guess okay yeah yeah no that's the idea all right because it creates a field and that field could be i mean it could be thousands of meters wide, this whole field. Gotcha. So it could just be a vast, because that's what we see with black holes, is like a vast

area that is just totally pitch black. Okay. So it's not, instead of bombing that tank, we're just going to bomb the floating magnet slowly approaching from the east. Very much that. Got it. Got it. So what they wanted was invisibility.

Right. Would it work? No. Is it safe? Absolutely not. But you know what isn't safe? Nazis taking over the world. You're right.

So they decided it was worth the risk. There's only one way to find out if this theory was correct. You know, try... Use it on a Nazi. Attach magnets to his head all right it's August 12th or October 28th no one really knows the year you are no clocks the recurring theme it seems 1943 pre clocks yeah PC 2000 BC yeah 2000 before clocks. That's right. The USS Eldridge is docked in Philadelphia's US Navy port. The men aboard are preparing the ship for Project Rainbow.

All they know is Project Rainbow, it's this invisibility project. They're trying a cloaking device. Okay. A powerful generator is loaded onto the ship. There's excitement in the air. If this works, this could revolutionize the war. If you think this is a time everyone was really emotionally involved in this, they're super on board.

Other boats are looking on in the bay, and there's other soldiers on land. And the order is given to initiate the test. In the docking area? On the ship. Christ. On the Eldridge. The generator is heard powering on.

It's oscillating. It's going like high, like, you know, like a siren goes from like a low pitch to a high one, like low frequency to high one. This is like getting higher and higher as it goes. Yeah, like steam blowing out the sides. You've got that one scientist who's going shut it down shut it down she can't take any more cotton and then that one army general is like get your hand off the lever we need to shut get your hand off the lever kill all. It's going to kill you if you don't shut up.

The colonel's invisible. It's just a floating gun. What do you want it for? For the war? It's like, no, so we can peep on people in changing rooms. This is so much bigger than the war. We can snoop on people. We can sneak into Sainsbury's and take their meal deals.

Think of it, endless meal deals. All the good sandwiches are always gone by the time I get there. Walkers, knickknacks, the choices are ours. I'm left with the ploughman sandwich, day after day, but no longer. He's gone mad. The generator's increasing in power, oscillating at a higher and higher frequency. People are looking on from the bay, and the Eldridge, the ship, the USS Eldridge is starting to become hazy and faded. They can't quite tell.

The onlookers can't believe it. Is it working? Suddenly, all that's left is a green haze in the distance and the outline of the ship in the water. Jesus Christ, it's worked. Then suddenly, something's different. There's no more haze and no more outline in the water. Is the Eldridge just gone? Did it sail away? Did it disappear? One captain on shore checks his radar

and watches the last blip of the Eldridge disappear. Beep. Beep. And suddenly nothing on the radar. My God. Moments later, the Eldridge flashes back into Philadelphia Harbor. Those on land can't believe how successful the experiment was. Not only did they cloak the Eldridge, but they might have sent it somewhere else altogether. Are the men okay on board?

Oh, God, no. My semen. They knew something was wrong when crew on the board started vomiting. Oh, God. They complained of terrible nausea. The report goes that there was an unimaginable, mysterious, and horrific cost. Some men had gone completely insane. In that period of time?

Absolutely. They reported that while the ship was invisible, they could see their bodies and the ship disappearing in front of them. They were able to walk through walls, but when the ship reappeared, it all became too real. Men had body parts fused to the boat. What? Some crew never reappeared at all. In one account, men began to literally fade away. This was called the freeze. Sometimes it would only last a few minutes, but for others it was for long periods.

They called this the deep freeze. What? That has nothing to do with anything. Others called it caught in the flow, caught in the push, get stuck, go blank, hell incorporated, or stuck in molasses

Hell incorporated Why are there so many names for this? Because it happens to a lot of people Rory But use the one name It was a very stressful time Imaginations were running wild Also none of it has to do with disappearing Caught in the flow

The deep freeze The mambo jambo Taking the dog out disappearing. Caught in the flow. The deep freeze. The mambo jumbo. Taking the dog out. Gold kadush. This is crazy. Going fly fishing. I guess they're mad. They've gone insane.

I'll let them go at this point. That's what I'm saying, dude. Fellow crew would attempt to hold on to them to stop them fading away. Two of these men burst into flames and their bodies burned for 18 days. Where had it gone? The crew had no idea. People

in Norfolk, Virginia claimed to have spotted the ship at this exact moment. They claimed that it appeared and disappeared in the harbor almost instantly. So around this day, it was known to have disappeared from Philadelphia Harbor. People in Norfolk had mysteriously spotted a ship turn up and disappear. Right. So they think it might have traveled not just out of the realms of light,

but also gone out of phase with space and time itself and just moved, teleported in some way. Crew members claimed that all remaining crew were discharged and in some cases brainwashed for 18 days they sent them fishing fly fishing stuck in my nashor brainwashing techniques were used to make them forget what had happened it looks like we got ourselves a classic government cover-up nice nice so I hear what you're saying. How do we know this then? This is

straight up bananas, crazy nonsense. How do we know it's true? Yeah. Well, this came to light approximately 12 years after the fact in 1955. An astronomer and researcher on electromagnetism, Morris K. Jessup, received a letter from a Carlos Allende. Morris had no idea who this was, from a Carlos Allende. Morris had no idea who this was, but Carlos explained what happened in Philadelphia in 43, saying he watched it all go down from the nearby SS Andrew Furseth. Carlos claimed he knew men who were on the Eldridge.

He said one even disappeared in the middle of a bar fight one night. So this is an ongoing thing. If you're on that boat, you never know when you're going to... Absolutely. You think you're safe. Yeah, it's like you've been radiation radiation poisoned or some shit yeah what's that uh

uh horror movie final destination oh it's like you survived the accident but then all the men are picked off one by one hell yeah you never know when it's gonna happen imagine that like eight years later you like find a nice girl and you get married have wife and kids and you know you've wife and kids and you know you've left all that behind you and then one day you know like we got a good thing going here susan it's like you know what you take the day off tomorrow because you're a really good wife and uh i'll pick the kids up from school you deserve extremely natural you deserve some time off i'll i'll take pick the Oh, Trev, it's so sweet of you.

I never get to tell you how much I love you. Well, Susan, I... Oh, God, Susan. Oh, no. Oh, God. Oh, God. Oh, no, you're sucking molasses. Oh, I'm walking the dog. Oh, you're walking the dog.

I'm walking the dog, Susan. Oh, no, it's a deep freeze. It's a deep freeze. Burst into flames. Oh, Christ. It's a deep freeze. That's a deep freeze. Burst into flames. Oh Christ. It's a deep freeze. That's terrifying. That's awful.

Kids running up trying to grab him. They burst into flames. I mean, I did find this particular one funny because they're like in the middle of a bar fight. Which kind of makes it serious. I can just imagine the account from whoever he was fighting in the bar being like it's like i got i got into a fight with this guy in the bathroom and then no sooner was i swinging punches than he just disappeared it and they're like watch the cctv back it's like it was his reflection yeah there was no one there at all or i love the idea of them

fighting over whether or not it did actually happen and mid fight the dude disappears that's so great yeah maybe that was straight up like uh the truth behind marty mcfly and back to the future at the end of the sea dance you know where his hand starts disappearing he's in the photograph no he was on board saying that's an einstein nicholas tesla shit crazy honestly and yeah you know marty mcfly was hanging around that like high-powered um time travel and motor yeah you know doc was always trying to win the war doc was always banging out about the war road where we're going we don't need road takes him to the boat this is the boat off on board so morris is reading this crazy letter from carlos right and as you imagine extremely skeptical

but he does politely reply just asking for some sort of evidence and a couple months later carlos replies saying that he might be able to get him some by means of hypnosis okay that's not evidence that's what morris thinks too he decides what anyone would have thought what a quack can i get you evidence via photoshop would i be able to supply you evidence by uh trickery and tomfoolery sir lies perhaps would that convince you yeah at a passport office would i be able to prove my identity by means of mime uh perhaps or um interpretive dance yes yeah he refuses to reply he's he's like that that's bullshit Well, two years later, Morris receives a package, this time from the U.S. Navy Research Office.

Inside is a copy of one of Morris' books. This is about UFOs, I believe, UFO research. I was going to say Morris was an astronomer and researcher, but he had written a book around that time on UFOs. And this book had been annotated with bizarre scrawled annotations from what looked like three different people all over it. Three different types of drawing detailing

how Morris' findings and UFOs relate to the Philadelphia experiment. This cloaking device experiment. Philadelphia Harbor. Okay. The annotations reference that the authors are talking to each other by means of these annotations and referencing that they're not from Earth.

They seem somehow inhuman in the characters that are used and the way that they refer to each other. But it is like a broken English. Right, okay. A note inside this package from the U.S. Navy asking Morris if he knows anything about this. Morris, just thinking back two years earlier, he thinks this must be something to do with Carlos, that guy who messaged him out of the blue. Yeah.

Because he's the only guy who's talked to him about the Philadelphia experiment. Who else knows about the Philadelphia experiment? What does it all mean? Are these annotations from a man in black of sorts? Aliens, perhaps? Extradimensional beings of... Maybe. Who is Carlos?

Someone inside the Navy had taken interest in the annotated book and found a publisher to produce it. You can actually buy this online. It's called a case for the UFO Varo edition with the annotation with the annotations. Yeah. It's quite interesting. I would like to read that because I don't know what necessarily would make

annotations quote unquote out of this world. Yeah. If it's still written in english is it just poorly written english yeah i think it's sort of bizarre from just from what i've seen yeah i mean it is english and it is like legible i guess yeah but um what i mean what is that what makes it otherworldly i guess some of the capital letters are in the wrong place or something. Yeah. Grammatically, it's incorrect. Like an alien would write. He used green ink.

Not typical for the old Bic. International color of alien ship, I believe. Yes. Like all mysterious government tales, those involved don't live happily ever after morris did try to write about this event and and speak about this event but he ended up committing suicide very sadly just two years later after this two years and so you do have to wonder is there some connection here that he finds out about this philadelphia experiment the navy starts writing to him and he starts to get contact about the philadelphia experiment in relation to his ufo

research and he winds up dead two years later and i mean i can hark back to previous podcasts and we've looked at paranormal researchers who have met untimely demises i mean we are well on our way any day now my god i'm gonna drop jesus did he weeks at best well was it suicide by hanging or suicide by spontaneous combustion to an invisible freeze yeah i believe it i'm gonna find out right away it's not very paranormal if he shot himself. Yeah. That's just sad. Well, it is sad. But what I'm saying is, what if this is the cover-up dude? Right.

He knows a little too much. That's what I'm saying. Time to offer. Gives him the old walk the dog. Oh, nice. Yeah, the old deep breeze. The old how do you do? The old tiddlywinks.

The old tip breeze, the old how do you do, the old tiddlywinks. The old tip of the hat. And so you can imagine this sort of set off people's imaginations running wild, that this book becomes published and initially a very small run, but it is now still available today. People find the history of the Philadelphia experiment, these annotations detailing their relation to Morris's work and this bizarre interaction from the u.s navy having something to do with it yeah and so veterans have come forward since the publication of this book claiming to have been present during the experiment no but it's sort of impossible to prove the veracity of their claims and in 1999 there was a reunion of eldridge veterans who

largely claimed that the ship never made port in Philadelphia. They'd kind of heard of this. And so who's telling the truth? To muddy the waters even more, two men, Al Bielek and Duncan Cameron, claimed to have jumped overboard when the ship was in hyperspace between Philadelphia and Norfolk and claimed to have landed in Montauk Air Force Base, Long Island in 1983. That's right. The ship disappeared in 1943. They were like, we're getting on a Dodge and jumped overboard.

Landing in an Air Force Base. In the future? 40 years later. Yes, in the future. How did they get back? They didn't. What? They came forward in 1983. So for them, it had only been like...

Yeah, like minutes, I guess. What? This is so weird they so they basically came forward amidst all this philadelphia experiment stuff saying we're from 1943 that's crazy we're from 1943 also i'm insane imagine that like after all these years of it being debatable and you're like okay i wonder you know maybe it did happen maybe it didn't happen we've got all these testimonies we've got all these different investigations and then it just reaches this year where these guys show up just like we just got here the ship yeah where's the l fridge the what that. The what? That's insane. What year is this? Checks the oven. This doesn't tell the year.

That's madness. My iPhone's dead. I love that so much. That's crazy. Yeah, it's a cool one. But wait, presumably they had loved ones and family

that they, did they just disappear? Rory, in the world of paranormal research, there are no loved ones. There are no families, no happy lives. Just clock ovens. Just clock ovens, broken watches, and bizarre single men. You can get anything you need with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no,

you can't get an ice rink on Uber Eats. ice tea and ice cream yes we can deliver that uber eats get almost almost anything order now product availability may vary by region see app for details and we won't get into it now but the montauk air force base i don't know if you know but that's a whole other podcast in itself oh some weird shit has gone on at montauk so that's where they landed up this they didn't land in montauk for no good reason that's all i'm saying there is like some mk ultra psychological government experimentation shit going on it's like you remember stranger things yes that was based on Montauk Air Force Base. Really? Yes. God damn, that's really cool.

That was a good show. Hey, um... That's why. Sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit. Actually, uh, is it cold in here? Oh, it's the deep freeze, actually. You're fading away. You jump out the window and land at 2025. I just came from the podcast.

Your iPhone's dead. The new season of Stranger Things is coming out soon. Oh, yeah. We should totally do an episode on that then. That would be such a good idea. We could cover MKUltra and MomTalk. Because I think it also comes out on Halloween. So that could be like a Halloween special.

The Stranger Things Halloween special. That would be great. great keep an eye out for that you're out for that one absolutely we fail to do it all together yeah this is the last episode people were really not into the idea of a teleporting boat i don't want to you know i know what you guys are thinking kit's been you know hitting that pipe again he's lost his 12th aa coin yeah he's relapsed hard and he's been reading some crystal links.org sites and none of this is verifiable verifiable a word i can't seem to pronounce truth okay if you can't pronounce verified i'm gonna take everything you say with a little grain of salt it's like someone in my in my work the other day was asking me how to spell incompetent yeah what was that joke that we came up with oh you're so illiterate

i don't know the meaning of the word the irony of it is so great but the reality is that this has grounds in fact discuss please continue this story gets so widely known that there is a legit u.s navy web page that addresses this whole mystery this thing is so prolific they had to separate a whole little dot com on their website they had to set it out straight and of course the navy take on this is that it's bogus they say look the eldridge was never in philadelphia can check its war logs, which are published online. But they do admit that the Navy did receive the mysterious UFO book with the annotations about the Philadelphia experiment, and they did make contact with Morris about it. So this leaves us in a weird place.

Okay. The war logs, all I'm saying is, it wouldn't be the first time the government has covered something up, okay? That's all I'm saying. We know about that. We know about that. We know about that. Okay. We've been there, done that.

And it is kind of crazy that they admitted that they took the time out of their day to contact this astronomer and UFO researcher about the Philadelphia experiment. And then follow up in later years saying, I mean, none of it's real. You know what is weird with me? I don't know why this keeps on happening come on so this guy is in contact with the government yes about this book and then he mysteriously quote unquote vanishes why does the government if they did this i think it's a good idea if they're in a situation where they're like okay this is getting tough this guy's doing some things that we don't want him to be doing he knows a little bit too much we need to handle this delicately

um kill him that's not gonna help that's just like solidifying his legacy that's all you're doing yeah but i mean i feel like that's how we're looking at it with lots of years of retrospect. And that's become such like a meme is this idea of like people who know too much get offed. Whoever decided to off him, that was like the brightest idea they'd ever had. That was the first time they'd ever thought of that. They were just like, how can we shut this guy up so that no one listens to him ever again? I mean, this is so hard. How can we possibly... Over here, David.

I have an idea. Okay, okay, okay. What do you think? Well, we need him to stop talking. I suggest I kill him. But that's illegal. Yes, it is. Yes, very illegal.

But if we don't tell anyone. My God, I think he's onto something. Trevor, get the president on the line. Mr. President? Yes. I'm going to kill him. Richard, you son of a bitch. You've done it again.

You've done it again. You don't play by the rules, but you get results, Richard. Yeah, I think it's crazy. But you're right. At that time, you know, word doesn't spread fast. You murder some crazy guy who's writing about aliens, they're just going to think he killed himself. And like we said, this isn't like some Elon Musk character

that's super successful in his field, family, adoring fans, you know, people all around them, people calling them up every day, seeing how they're doing. As we discussed, paranormal people are basically not people. We know this, guys. They are ghosts of people.

They are the ghosts of their own stories. This guy, I don't know, probably didn't even have a family to to to miss him i'm imagining shack i'm imagining a science shack he lives in a science shack i thought you meant shack like shaq i'm imagining shaquille o'neal in a lab coat waiting for that deep freeze to take him away guess what shack sure is winter is coming yeah i love it i love when you like when the five foot three assassin shows up to strangle him and just about get his kneecaps winter's coming bitch oh shite scientist i know i'm like trying to detail to you i'm like yeah someone

who's not super successful not loved or adored at all you're like i'm thinking michael jordan but of the astronomy world how about that oh yeah these people are not going to be missed so i'm thinking they this guy was an easy target. Yeah, just pick him off. Oh, they probably didn't have snipers. It was probably more like, blood splattered on the walls, all horrible. I mean, they could just utilize some of this new technology, given that it went so backwards.

This guy is just sitting in his home. I was about to say typing on his laptop. We didn't have laptops back then. Typewriter. He was typing on his little stone age typewriter his like thoughts on ufos and he just hears outside like he's like where have i read about that noise before and then colonel floating gun comes in hovering walking towards him i love the idea that he's been relinquished of his mortal body mortal realm but he still works for the u.s navy yeah he's still got a glock

he's still a puppet of the navy? Amazing. Yeah, god damn. It's a mysterious one, alright? I wish we had more credible evidence. I mean, it's nice that we had some guys stepping forward, but then again, to only have them step forward after all of this

is made public and blown up to be a big deal. I mean, it seems like something so widespread that affected so many people that how how do you brush that under the rug how do you tell all these families that their husbands and brothers are all missing now even though they weren't deployed in action in the war yeah you know little mysterious things like that i mean we do have how do you tell a wife their husband has now merged with a boat hardest part of my job

it's never easy two hours in she's not even upset she's just like what explain to me again you see ma'am it's quite simple we powered up this powerful generator it's still colonel floating! He's just at the door. You see, man, it makes a noise like this. Whee! So you see how I am invisible? Well, your husband is much like this, but also fused with a boat.

So you're saying that he's dead? Oh, God, we wish he was. Lord knows he wishes he was. We call him HMS George. And I can assure you he will not be docking any time around here soon. Can I visit him?

Absolutely not. The ship's invisible too. It's somewhere near Andromeda 9. Still in hyperspace, we believe. We didn't read that Einstein shit properly. In terms of the idea of Morris being killed. Right.

For what he knew. We do know, it's not the first time this has been suggested, there was a Project Star Wars. Jesus Christ. Ever heard of a little thing called Star Wars? Directed by a little colonel called Lucas. J.J. Abrams. Lieutenant George Lucas. J.J. Abrams. Lieutenant George Lucas.

Project Star Wars, also known as America's... The Phantom Menace. Return of the Reagan. President Reagan's America's Strategic Defense Initiative. Right. Better known as Project Star Wars. It was a largely unsuccessful plan to create a kind of like laser system to be able to intercept um like asteroids and stuff i guess

yeah we could protect earth um but when it failed supposedly and we could probably do a whole another episode on something like that that um there's something like 21 or 22 scientists that died in bizarre circumstances after that project was shut down why because they looked in their telescopes and were looking up to their satellites or some shit and they saw alien grace seven foot tall floating about invisible with guns project star wars that we that would be a good one actually to investigate. Yeah. One of us reads articles about this. The other one watches the trilogy. We come back with notes.

You come in with like a toy lightsaber. You're like, I'm going to ace this podcast, bro. That's crazy. Yeah, that is a crazy one. I mean, this is what we're learning is that these operations existed and probably do still exist to this day. Absolutely. It's crazy some of the stuff, some of the projects the government has worked on. Oh my God. And as you say, I concede that for this particular tale, because it is based in historical people and historical ship and a historical time, that it feels like there should be a lot of

evidence this was a a large u.s navy ship we should know where like what happened to it like where it was the people that were on it all that stuff we don't there's not that that amount of evidence yeah um we don't have lots of records from loved ones and families of these men that were on the ship saying my husband is half boat now exactly we don't have those people who've lived with boat men husbands um but i guess the only evidence that we do have the kind of weirdness that we can't tie up at the end of the day is that the navy looked into this they contacted this researcher morris and they were like do you know what's going on here someone's contacting us about the philadelphia project and then whenever it comes up then in later years they they have this full disclosure oh nothing ever happened

we've got we've got logs for all of it we know where the boat was at all times but why did they ever like spend government money on talking about the Philadelphia Project? That is interesting. And I don't know whether that'll ever be something that we get to the bottom of, unfortunately. It's just part of the mystery involved. Maybe that's just part of a policy for them to investigate any potential leaks. policy for them to investigate any potential leaks um because presumably they were working on tech whether this actually happened with the boat but they probably were working on tech or investigating some sort of a similar technology maybe they hear it could be that they're working

on some genuinely super secret like war device yeah and then this comes up to hear people talking philadelphia project they're like shit the news is out everyone knows about our new weapon they actually read what people are saying they're disappearing soldiers and they're like oh jesus christ we're fine oh we're fine people are so stupid probably shouldn't tell rich not to kill that guy the door's swinging he's already left um in terms of a conclusion. If we're to start wrapping this up. Yeah, you investigated it. Yeah.

Where does your hat lie? Well, one interesting thing was that the military maybe claimed at one point that they had genuinely been using some sort of electromagnetic generator. Right. To make ships invisible to radar and to tracking mechanisms you know they talk about like stealth ships stealth stealth planes stuff like that and i suppose that they do use some sort of cloaking device using electromagnetism so i they sort of deflected it and said look it could be listen people probably got their wires crossed there's maybe something to do with this right um i know in one instance that a ship around that time probably around the second world war the ship was noted

through some electronics that were on board or whatever's going on on board the way like electricity could sometimes dance off like a pylon or something that like electricity and light would seem to seem to come out of a ship damn that's cool and i don't think boat yeah i don't think it had any effect on soldiers or anything um but i guess deep heat they called it yeah i like the idea of a really cold boat and these guys like accidentally get their tongues stuck to it yeah he's fused with their ship but i guess they were kind of deflecting us and saying look maybe these are where these rumors have come from right of of sort of paranormal um experiences with disappearing ships and men fusing with boats and being affected by by this kind of electromagnetism i don't know

i i don't doubt that the u.s military absolutely has tested on human subjects yes in psychological and physical capacities 100 on our own people you know on the good guys and on the bad guys and also using weird weaponry i believe it was uh declassified that at one point in i don't remember which one of the wars it was they're actually working on a weapon that could essentially target and beam essentially like a supersonic beam like a like a gaydar if you will to right that would make them drop trowel on the field uh i think it was the purposes were to incapacitate them completely so they're just like sick and dizzy or literally make their eardrums explode with the concentrated sound from like this sound cannon wow you know they say that which i wonder if it was just like a huge pa system blasting skrillex What is it good for? It's not happening

Crank it Hell yeah So I think it is possible I guess that's where I come down I think it's Not just possible but likely They were experimenting Some new technologies

That may have had some undesirable consequences On the naval crew. Boatmen, sure. I don't know if they're refusing to boats. Okay. I don't know if there's any evidence for that. Right. And this, I feel like we're in the same boat on this one.

But this particular operation, this project, where do you fall down on the yes or the no? Did the boat uh become invisible time travel um and those guys jumped off and landed in the 80s yes hard no okay i just want to make sure we're on the same page here hard no as much as i love the thought of this boat reappearing and men grabbing other men as one of them disappears in their hands. I'm just imagining a vet listening to this, just going, you boys weren't there. You boys weren't there. Because it's like, you know, if you're in war and someone gets shot and you've got them in your arms and you can at least you can comprehend

what's happening to them even if they're not going to make it you can say like it's going to be okay you know it's going to be all right you're going home you know something like that when when your fellow soldiers disappearing in your hands what do you even say to them they're like where am i going i think you're going to hell hell i don't know what this is i don't actually even want to touch you man in case i go with you yeah to be fair if that starts happening what would you call it might as well call it the deep freeze yeah bro you know who knows what's going on jesus yeah uh i'm the same as you it's gonna be a no from me fascinating it's a cool story we

don't know what other crazy experiments have taken place but this particular operation is a no from me absolutely i think that just about wraps up this one if you have any of your own insights for this particular story or any of your own paranormal tales at all getting some great emails as always hit us up on the twitter at this para life or on the Twitter at This Paralife or on the Facebook at This Paranormal Life, I believe. You can email us in your own insights to thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. And until next week, namaste. Goodbye. Thank you.