This Paranormal Life - #027 Florida Man Possessed By Demonic Fairies After Stepping Into Ancient Forest Circle

Episode Date: September 18, 2017

Everyone loves kicking back in their back garden. Cracking open a cold one with the boys and soaking up the sun. But what if your back garden is home to an ancient Fairy Circle? Next thing you know - biblical snakes, smoke monsters, and demons are stalking and attacking you. What would you do? It's time to investigate on this week's episode of This Paranormal Life!Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Can you bend a spoon with your mind? Was Steve Jobs reincarnated as Candy Crush? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Welcome back to the podcast, it's Tuesday once again and you are listening to your favorite professional paranormal investigator host, Mr. Rory Powers! Boo! And Mr. Kit Greer, how are you doing today, Rory? I'm doing pretty good, man. I'm ready to be spooked.

I'm ready to have my whole understanding of this universe flipped upside down like a beautiful pancake. That's right. I mean, we take, you know, we do these podcasts, they're extremely draining. And we take six days off of just trying to reintegrate to society. Just put our tiny minds back together before ripping them apart once again the next tuesday yeah i call in sick a lot at work and just tell them about that i can't come in my mind has been thoroughly blown it's like i can come in but i ain't doing shit yeah and they're like that's not a medical excuse. Right, yeah, yeah. Yeah, a doctor wouldn't sign off on that. Yeah, a doctor also wouldn't sign off on the Enfield hauntings.

But they happened too. So what do you think about that, boss man? They're like, you're extremely confused as to what a sick day really means. You're bringing up paranormal instances. What's sicker than a ghost? What's paler than a ghost? Just by being louder than we are doesn't mean you're more right what's scarier than bigfoot i'm already back i've already backed out you think your work here this

insurance firm is so important well what's more important than a sasquatch that's right we're back on a tuesday to investigate another paranormal tale claim or incident i don't know shit it's what we do best normally we take a very famous paranormal case um that's what that's what everyone wants to know is the truth behind those celebrity questions but sometimes we want to hear a brand new original case an anecdote so fresh so recent just so goddamn real that it can't be denied. We have one of the members of the paranormal nation out there has written into us a devastatingly terrifying paranormal tale that happened to them. And they wrote into what email address would this be, kid?

Ah, shit. It's here somewhere. So many folders. Just folders. That's the old email. I mean, you should also just know it off by oh no that's the old I mean you should also just know it off by heart is it the AOL

why do you have so many treasure maps it's this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com nice that's where you can send in your own tales

and that's where we find that's right if you enter that on the chest that you find that's where we find today's story okay so thank you to Mr john b i don't want

to give away your last name in case i don't know ghouls look you up in the yellow pages and haunt you down but it is bedford but absolutely it is and we'll be giving his address later on the show thank you very much john b um for this tale i'm just gonna dive right in the story reads what i'm about to tell you happened over the course of a four month period i'd moved into a house in coco florida not a real place no not at all not at all near frosty lane where the rivers run with lemonade this is all cereals i said to my old family, Cheerios. My neighbor, Captain Crunch. I needed a couple of lucky charms to get me through the day.

There's no paranormal tale. It's just a list of puns. Of cereal puns. Sorry, Coco Farm? He moved into a house on Coco Pop Island with the owner of the house and a sound engineer from the music venue I worked at. I'm not one who wants to say what happened was paranormal.

I do believe in the paranormal, but I always like to remain skeptical to the possibility of a rational explanation. You're listening to the right podcast, my friend. The real cast, as we like to call it in these parts. In January 2012, I moved into a large sunroom That had been remodeled into a bedroom On the rear of an older home in Coco, Florida

The house was situated in the center of a roughly 10 acre space of land Large oak trees draped with Spanish moss Surrounding the immediate area around the house He's quite articulate He's really romancing What are he's wording, he's really romancing himself. What are you trying to say? Just say it's a tree. Just say it's some trees

in the garden. Brandon or Bedford. Captain Crunch himself. Just get to the point. Large open fields took up the majority of the front and rear of the yard. I tell you this to understand what happened the first night and subsequent nights after.

The sun was low in the sky as I got ready to drive up to our rock bar we worked at. I was reaching for my keys when I heard a very abnormal barking sound from behind the house and rustling in the bushes. Am I barking fairly normal? Dog bark, presumably. Usually very normal,

but maybe it had a kind of human ring to it or some sort of abnormal ring to it. Yeah, like Scooby-Doo. Imagine you're getting in the car and you're like, Rocky! You're like, funny, I can swear I just heard Scooby-Doo. Unfortunately, Scooby-Doo is fictional. Right.

And Rocky! There it goes again. Christ. Seems to be a pattern developing. You look in the mirror, you're shaggy. Scooby snacks in hand. What is this? Giant sandwich.

One hand bringing it closer to your mouth, the other's trying to keep it away. Oh, Christ. Raggy, no. I immediately thought it was one of the guys trying to scare me, as it was a rather creepy place and it was my first night there. Okay. Mere seconds after hearing these noises, I opened the large windows facing the backyard

to find there was no person or animals to be seen. I brushed the incident off and went about my evening. When I arrived at the rock bar, I told my roommate, Dave, about what happened. He laughed it off and came back with a, well, the place is haunted. The last guy left because weird things kept happening to him. Oh, I love this. I love this so much.

Fast forward a month. Dave and I were just getting home around 3am after a big show that evening. Still wide awake, we grabbed a couple beers and headed to the deck that was built above the garage. After about 15 minutes, we both found ourselves staring into the cluster of trees directly behind the house. We looked at each other to confirm what we were seeing was actually there. A small black cloud, as much as I hate to say it, similar to the smoke monster from Lost. Wow. It was circling about 10 feet off the ground, almost directly ahead of us. Do you remember the smoke monster no not particularly okay is it worth me just looking up a video right now uh yeah that's a good idea so for it because loss is

probably like a little bit older than maybe some of our listeners yeah um but they're all toddlers our whole demographic is toddlers six to seven years old is kind of our target demo that's why we beep the f**ks so those brain dead little shits granted at seven they're old enough to hear the shits because they've got the shits uh youtube for anyone who doesn't know lost was a uh a terrible program that kind of built up everyone's expectations and hopes and dreams in the form of this young new director jj abrams before sort of descending into madness and insanity and sort of tarnishing his name thereafter as someone who couldn't really tie up a knot in terms of a dramatic uh storyline continuum how dare you sir

the force awakens are you kidding me lost the black smoke creature yeah do we know what time of day this sighting is? 3 a.m. 3 a.m. Okay, so it's pretty dark already. Yeah. All right. In this scene, they're in a jungle. They appear to not know where they are.

Lost, perhaps. No sign of direction. Very obvious, but nice. Jesus Christ. Looking at a... Can you spin it Ryan so I can see it just a little bit

to recap my memory thank you sir yep that's a smoke monster alright a straight up goose bumps shot here yeah

it's kind of POV of the smoke the sound is quite creepy sounds like Stooloo or Godzilla

it's essentially smoke sentient smoke. It's black smoke. It really is. But it seems to have a mind of its own, I would say. Yes, absolutely. He just, he saw Reaper essentially from Overwatch. Yeah, not far off.

And Lost, it's kind of depicted as if it's kind of like an animal. It's nearly facing off with one of the characters, growling a little bit and then retreating into the distance. And I think John says he kind of hates to say it because the smoke monster was largely ridiculed when that appeared people were kind of this was the start of kind of people going jesus christ is this what lost is not okay just insanity just kind of like it felt cheap at the time or something like that yeah but um but granted i gotta hand it to him if that happened to to you, what you just saw, it's pretty spooky.

That is really spooky. Yeah, really spooky. And fair play to him for having the balls to tell us about it. The balls and the goal. Knowing full well that we will ridicule and criticize. Oh, I mean, he's in for a kicking. The rest of this podcast, he really is. I mean, afraid of smoke.

You little bitch. I'm interested to see where this is going was it the smoke barking let's find out on next week's episode thanks for listening guys so this cloud of smoke is circling about 10 feet off the ground almost directly ahead of us we sat and watched it for 20 minutes until it just seemed to drain off the ground assuming a natural phenomenon but curious we waited until the next day to explore it further. On the following day, just after noon, we went out back where we saw this floating smoke and noticed something peculiar about the area we saw it in. The trees there were growing in a perfect circle around a large area and the branches themselves

seemed to have grown around an invisible sphere above us. Okay, so like a dome. A dome of trees and branches very interesting at this point we began to research ghost activity demonology and the occult out of a morbid curiosity nice a fellow investigator not professional but still it's admirable yeah absolutely you know kind of like the d leagues um yeah and we're the big d leagues am i right uh yeah i mean this is this is a classic story of how someone you know gets the call to become paranormal investigator exactly all it takes is one little spark for me personally uh when i was in dublin obviously as a child

um in that park when i had my first experience i mean that yeah i mean that kind of been it because i mean that wasn't real though so well you know it's debatable i mean we'll get onto that at another time we can talk about a different time yeah we'll circle back if we if we ever uh care give a shit yes um yeah but that's all it takes one little paranormal one little incident and you're hooked that's what we try and do with our audience get them hooked that's right things were calm for the next few weeks, but we began performing small experiments. We would get our friends to...

Yes? Do you take umbrage for that sentence? I just want to know what the experiments are. I'm just eager. We would get our friends to follow us out into the yard without telling them why. Jesus Christ! Even our most brutal black metal loving friends would unconsciously stop following us every time, directly at the border of the circle.

No! Save for one spot. I love this. There were two trees that were spaced roughly a kind of doors width to shoulder width apart. If we led people through this into the circle, no one ever had an issue. Like I said before, things were quiet for a few weeks, but then things seemed to take a strange turn. One evening, I went out to my car, which I had to park close to the two entrance trees. I got in my car, and while I was fastening my seat belt, my car began to lurch forward a bit. This alarmed me, as the front end of the car was slightly

uphill, so it didn't really seem possible. Gravity and faulty brakes didn't seem to fit. The car lurched forward three more times, as if being pulled towards the circle. At this point I was truly freaked out. This is a car I've had for ten years, and even to this day, it has never happened again. I turned the car on and hit the lights since it was dusk, and I saw a snake hanging out of a hole in the side of a tree again this could be all mere coincidence but it's hard to separate symbolism from truth in times of fear he slithered back into the tree as i backed out i arrived come to me little bitch

is this man has this man seen just out of curiosity, a treehouse before? Does he know what a treehouse is? Why do you question this? Well, he's just saying, you know, like this strange formation. The branches seem to form a roof. And there was a miniature tea set inside. Now that I think about it, there were many young children running about frolicking in the garden. These

snakes of children. I arrived to work and told Dave what happened and we became determined to investigate what was happening as if it was an actual paranormal investigation. We started going back out and on the rooftop porch every night after work. That's a lot of dedication.

I really admire that. Most nights were quiet, but some were active. It's been some years since this all occurred, so I will try my best to get the timeline right. About five days into our investigation, we had already seen fog form in the area, but nowhere else back on the five acres. What we saw next scared us inside for the night. It's hard to explain exactly what we were looking at,

but it appeared to be a seven-foot humanoid shadow walking towards us. It was almost impossible to actually see. I really like this description. It's like when you see a blur of motion in the corner of your eye, but this was directly in front of them. That's so weird. That's quite a good way of explaining it. That is a good way to describe it.

It's not distinct. It's very hard to place. That's something that's so specific in description that it's troubling yeah it's not just like the creature was hard to see it's like i can tell you exactly how hard to see it was yeah like how elusive it was because you kind of find yourself when you hear stories like this you're like kind of like there's i mean let's just be real there's the side of your brain that's like this is all horseshit of course so you're constantly double guessing and you're saying,

well, okay, listen, a shadow's coming at you. What does it look like? Oh, it looks like the smoke monster. It looks like a man in black. Does it look like my dad?

Does it look like... But this is such a good explanation. I'm like, I can really picture that. I can see how that would be very, very troubling indeed. Yeah.

God damn. They shot it right that was when i pulled out my 12 gauge i just want to know whether or not i should be on alert right now i passed seven snakes on the way to your house today jesus i don't know if that's related or if just the zoo that's not even counting the ones that are you brought with you no the snake backpack it's made of snakes. Made of snake skin. It's also filled with snakes.

Two big snakes around my shoulders and a snake whose mouth I filled with snakes. I call it the snake backpack. Your belt, also a snake. You kind of just attach its teeth to its tail and it kind of holds up your trousers a bit. Yes. I have a snake skin wallet

too it's alive too it just ate your wallet it ate my money and i made it my wallet what's so hard to understand about this my phone case sure snake skin again no just a snake wow the snake ate my phone i feel like you're next has the snake ever tried to eat you sir ask me about my socks ask me about them your socks wow okay brilliant snakes ate my feet truly brilliant i'm imagining you gifting your loved ones at christmas mittens gloves and stockings all live snakes wow like why did you give me a snake please shoes what are you saying those are shoes beautiful say you know who else uses snake skin uh louis vuitton okay uh gucci okay these are actually extremely expensive even if this

was an acceptable gift you rode in here on a wave of snakes. I don't know why they're letting you control them. I don't so much breed them as tolerate them. They are my cohabitants, I would say. Sure, I am their lord. But they're actual real pain in the ass. Because of my snake boxers. See, my sinus is allergic. That's right. It's not allergic. See, my sinus is allergic. That's right.

It's not allergic. You got bitten on the face. Yes, allergic to snake bites. I'm allergic to venom, idiot. Anyway, snake bite anyone? The glass is a snake. Just drinking from a snake's mouth. Oh, praise Ra.

I bet Ra had something to do with snakes someone tweeted us correcting us i think rah is a is the bird-headed god lord knows they're going to correct us in the comments after this one they're going to give us a beating in the comments but i think it's a bird-headed god i've never even seen what rah looks like i i just want to google it real quick just don't look him directly in the eyes is all I would say. Right. Right. Okay. Lest you become a snake yourself. The god Ra. The one true god.

Lord almighty. Lord of light. I obviously could have just Googled god and Ra would have shown up because obviously he's... Oh yeah. He's like the bird head one. Cool. Cool. Cool.

I didn't disrespect Ra too much this time. He looks great. He's got like a spear. Yep. As well. That's pretty great. He looks great. He's got like a spear. Yep. As well. That's pretty great. He's a body of a human though, am I right? Yes, body of a human.

He's got a good thing going. Body of a human, head of a bird. No, it's a bad thing because you want the bird wings. Do you though? Yeah, I guess you do. Yeah. But it would look kind of disturbing. Imagine pigeons running around with kind of human heads.

I don't like that. Yeah. You'll love this, though. Apep is, I believe, the Egyptian god of snakes. Ooh. And guess who their sibling is? Ra. Jesus Christ.

That's what I'm reading right now. So if you're the lord of garden snakes, that makes you like second cousin to Ra, dude. Holy shit. I think he battled ra really i don't want to go jesus christ there's literally egyptian depictions of ra fighting the snake god apex jesus look at this we need a world star hip-hop i'm very well we're getting off topic no who gives a shit let's scrap the previous story. Look at Ra fighting the snake god. Wow. Spearing him like in the head. Jesus.

So for those listening at home, Ra is sailing a boat with some other god. Doing what he does best. Really doing what he does. Yeah. And he seems to be sailing on the snake god simultaneously spearing the snake god in the mouth it was a real hit and slither nice dude thanks thanks man yeah that's pretty badass all right that's cool that can be like our other our other god we need to get run to a raw episode yeah we'll get there eventually egyptian lore is coming i like egyptian lore cool anyway what's something about snakes yeah let's get back to the

story at hand folks all right so they saw this seven foot humanoid shadow walking towards them back to the first person as i said we headed right inside and talked for a while about trying to convince each other it was simply an illusion from the moon and shadows next two nights were dead no fog no motion no noises just nothing. The third night we were sitting in my room and heard a very deep growling coming outside the yard in the area the circle was. So this is kind of getting back to the barking thing. Yeah. I mean this could still be an animal. Tried to look outside as there was just enough moonlight to make out the trees. No figures or people were anywhere to be seen. That's when my windows started rattling.

Jesus. Five windows on all three sides of the room were just shaking and rattling. There was no wind. Remember, this guy lives in Cocoa, Florida. This is like Paradise City. Right, right. You know, take me down where the girls are pretty. Yeah, where the snakes are green and the trees are haunted.

And the ra has a spear in your throat. So shaking windows should not be a worry that you have. No, no, no. I had a wall-mounted air conditioner on the side of the room closest to the circle, which began making a noise like coins were being sucked through the vents. Again, so descriptive. So worryingly descriptive. Yeah, I know.

It's not just weird noises. It feels like, and I don't mean to discredit mr john uh but if you were to try and write this as like an entertaining story or whatever it's like these are extremely specific yeah it's like gone to a lot of effort here i think if that were the case after a minute everything stopped at once needless to say we didn't go outside that evening the next seven or eight days were completely normal it was at this time we began laughing at ourselves for being so foolish outside the door to my room was a small bricked patio with a few benches we were sitting out after work again when a laugh came from the circle we stood up yes no just that's a weird thing to come from the circle yeah it's come

from a patch of grass for sure weird i mean i think things that would come from a patch of grass bugs yeah ants maybe a garden snake possibly the snake yeah chuckles no a bark potentially uh roars of laughter for sure no no especially if it's i don't know we haven't been told about what kind of laugh it is yeah i'm gonna go for giggle yeah i'm going for creepy giggle yeah like yeah that's that was wait were you there sir did you find the coins i put in your air vent it's just the snake in the tree that's a good snake voice to be fair thanks man i'm working on my snake voice they've been coaching me you need to your s's oh sorry dudes i always forget that one they hear this laugh from the circle we stood up and turned around and looked the shadowy figure from before was standing right at the edge of the light from the porch dave and myself both began exhaling smoke heavily

as we stared at this thing. For reference, I smoked cigarettes, but I hadn't had one for half an hour. And Dave didn't smoke at all. This is Florida in the summer, nowhere near cold enough for your breath to freeze. It's 25.5 degrees Celsius, 78 degrees Fahrenheit out. It hovered away from us.

Just take a look. Just for the record, I only smoke cigarettes and I hadn't had one for half an hour. Dave doesn't smoke. He just does cocaine. This was impossible. Just for reference, we like to hit up the strip bars two to three nights a week and maybe roll a molly those nights, but definitely no smoke. smoke also nos sort of thursday through sunday but um nice is a clear gas so there would be no smoke crack but don't smoke it we put it in balls and eat it correct correct heroin yes you see it in my pockets but no we inject we do not we do not smoke the heroin i cannot make that clear enough so trust us

i do like i mean it was a pretty good qualification to make because i don't know whenever he's talking about guys that work in like a rock venue until 3 a.m i'm kind of assuming there might like these guys own bongs is all i'm saying i would assume so like there's no way that two young guys working in a rock venue are not ripping bongs past 3 a.m on the roof when they live in florida and it's 25 degrees at night yeah especially when you want to hashtag investigate that's the best way to do it dude i mean i don't even see the ghosts till i'm high the demons will really start speaking to you, man. Sometimes if I'm like, all right, I want to see some real weird stuff tonight.

Yeah, man. Five brownies. Five. Om, om, om, om. I can't even see my own reflection. Oh my God, man. Because I found out the next day it wasn't a mirror. That's crazy.

Dude, I swear this time I had this THC spray. I sprayed my tongue 12 times, dude. I started hearing my own epitaph at my own funeral, dude. It was so trippy. And that's how you investigate the paranormal. Absolutely. This podcast brought to you by LA Speedweed. This figure hovered away from us, back to the center of the circle.

This was about 35 feet away from us. I stood there frozen, terrified. I looked to my right to see Dave was staring with a blank look in his face, and he proceeded to start casually strolling towards the circle. I called out for him, but he ignored me. Panicked and not knowing what to do,

I fell back in an old cliche. I made the shape of a large cross with my hands behind Dave's back. As soon as I did it, and with him not being able to see the motioning, he snapped his head back at me and growled, stop doing that. He shuddered like he was going to vomit, shook his head a little bit, looked back at me with a normal expression, and ran back to me obviously freaked out. He didn't even remember walking out to the center of the circle this trance state happened to him a few more times jesus he's at it again make the cross just put a cross on the tree i mean does that work like i know like a crucifix is supposed to like warn off evil spirits vampires etc but is it just any cross

because then why you need to do this all the time with your hands and then like make that with your fingers yeah i don't really know what what what the idea is yeah i mean it's not something we can really test this is the only thing that we've got to go on yeah i don't know it seems like a bit of a hack maybe that's like life hack 101 like that's on wiki how yeah that's for sure on wiki how somewhere yeah yeah or like a buzzfeed article or something on how to like get rid of spirits quick don't buy a crucifix make one with your hands you save money on crucifixes make a little origami jesus and put them on your hands uh what did people do for a cross for warding off demons before jesus

that's a good point we just i guess maybe everyone was just demons just demons everywhere we just lived with demons that was it i mean i granted i know nothing about the technicalities of christianity but i think i have heard heard that it's kind of interesting the politics of like what happens people after they died before jesus right because if you think like moses and all those like ancient prophets and stuff like that all lived way before Jesus.

Yeah. And Jesus was the one who like, I don't know, saved everyone and like opens the gates of heaven. So they got scammed big time. Scammed big time. They were like,

yeah, you guys gotta believe in God. You gotta believe in God. Then they die and they go up and they're like, gates aren't open yet. Yeah. So what? We didn't send them down.

Join the guest list. Who? Did you check all the books? Son of God, Jesus. What? Yeah, we haven't send him down. Join the guest list. Who? Did you check all the books? Son of God, Jesus. What? Yeah, we haven't sent him down yet. He wasn't in the books. That's honestly,

this is getting back to the ra thing all over again. People are really being sold a false bill of goods here, thinking that they're going to spend their whole life worshiping Jesus, worshiping the big guy in the heavens with the beard, with the pearly gates. Yeah.

It's snakes. You got to be worshipipping, all right? Or maybe there's just like a separate heaven, like a demon heaven for demons. Wait, that's hell. Maybe there's a crazy thought, but bear with me for a second. Maybe there's some sort of anti-heaven. Where they play rock music all day long.

Things are bad instead of good. Where instead of being massaged by angels, you were actually poked with a trident all day long by demons. We'll call it reverse heaven. Demon's paradise. Yeah, this trance state happened to David a couple more times. Some nights I would find him sitting on a chair in the middle of the circle alone, talking to someone, but he was all alone.

In fact, one of those weird states happened to me. I hate to say possession, but that's what it felt like. I don't remember everything that happened when I was in that state, but I remember a brief moment where I followed Dave into my room, even though I didn't feel like I was in control. I remember Dave looking at me in the eyes and saying something like, You're not John! Give me back my friend! I saw him and I heard him, but I felt like I was miles away, buried behind something in my mind.

Okay. Have you ever, like, sleepwalked? Yes. Really? Not massively. Yeah. I, um, just maybe, like, I'll wake up and i'll be like i think when i was younger it happened a lot i had a whole summer where i got really sick for like a month or two

and had non-stop night terrors whoa for about 60 days every single night when you say night so like that's just really awful nightmares? The most horrific nightmares you've ever imagined in your whole life. Kind of cold sweat, waking up. Hot sweat, cold sweat. Just like waking up just like, I've seen eternity. Wow. Just horrible stuff. And it's kind of frustrating because I was so young that I don't remember a lot of it.

Yeah, okay. But the bits that I do remember are so strange because they're not even like it's not like oh a man was stabbing me in my face yeah it was just like concepts and thoughts okay like the scariest things awful paranoia yeah yeah psychological hell just like almost like being thrown into another dimension and just hearing sounds and sights from universes around you horrible horrible things uh and then went on for about six months cool and i came out the other side and now i can talk to the dead right yeah you never actually mentioned that in previous podcasts i thought you were dead that's why sorry no i am but you just haven't mentioned that it's right oh yeah

i should say that now no Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, for everyone listening, I died in the late 90s. Yeah, yeah, I killed him. You were age six. We're pals now. They haven't found him yet. You pushed me down the stairs at primary school. We've been friends ever since.

Yeah, I had two months of straight-up night terrors every night. But since then, I never really have nightmares or sleepwalk. Right. Okay. That's interesting. You don't really have them now because they do say like nightmares statistically outweigh dreams. It's something like 60, 40%.

Damn, that's crazy. Yeah. Kind of weird. Like people talk about them as if they're rare, but I think people more often have sort of negative dreams. Yeah. My, my brother, who we know colin yep one time was staying with me at my university halls in wales cool cool and uh he was staying in my room while

he was there for a couple days he slept walk slept slept sleepwalk sleepwalked walked while sleeping uh left the room left my apartment left the building and then as soon as the uh electronic gate closed behind him he just completely snapped out of it and just like i've never heard that one just like immediately woke up on the spot and turned around and he was completely locked out of my entire building complex like he'd left the building through walked through the cold to another gate and gone and locked himself out of the building yeah and it was horrible he was like calling me non-stop and i was fast asleep so he stuck out there for hours because you've got your night terrors all out of the way so you sleep like a long i sleep like a baby yeah i'm straight up just like honestly like a dead baby like

you kids no waking you up no no no I'm drooling. I'm bleeding. I don't see dawn. It's very sad. So he gets it worse than I do. But what about yourself? Wow, that's crazy. It's such a good example because you would never do that in a million years were you not sleepwalking.

Yeah, it was such a major inconvenience for him. He was locked out for hours then made it back into my building but couldn't get in the door because that was locked yeah we had to sleep outside jesus yeah it was really bad brother i didn't hear it i'm going on the record i probably heard the alarms in my sleep like the phone ringing me but i'm like dancing with gumballs near like a chocolate river just like that rory answer the phone oh what are you seen i love this song yeah what turn it up

i do like the idea of how as you say the contents of nightmares change throughout your life yeah i find it funny that i can't really remember many of my own early nightmare experiences um but i do remember because i was a good bit older whenever my younger brother he woke up like screaming crying you know as a very young child very limited like um vocabulary at that point and he'd had this awful dream we're going what happened what happened what were you dreaming of and he and he says i was being chased by a wasp in the woods so adorable and hilarious that's funny those are your biggest fears that's like the scariest thing you could think of yeah was being chased by a wasp because imagine if you're

like a little kid you're brand new to the world everything's as you say sunshine and rivers of gumdrop smiles yeah and then suddenly this like scary looking wasp flies by and your parents like oh get away from that it's like why why it'll kill you what's that it's like that thing will stab you yeah it's gonna stab you why for no good reason it only doesn't stab you but then it dies it's its only purpose get used to it but it's funny that's freaking you out yeah like that's what you're afraid of. I had a nightmare that you just reminded me of when I was in secondary school where I just murdered all of my friends. This isn't a bit.

I actually had a nightmare where I was murdering everyone until there was a pile of bodies with everyone I knew dead. Wow. And at the top of it, it was someone's head poking out saying, why have you done this, Rory? Oh, my God. And when their mouth was open, I slowly put a grenade in their mouth and blew them all up. So, yeah, that was, I think that was my last nightmare I ever had. Your brain was good after that.

Yes, that was what I like to call the purge. It truly vented. I'm fine now. Wow, that's dark. Yeah, that's pretty weird, isn't it? I mean, it's a good thing you never kind of told adults about that because you might have ended up in a sort of school shooter register and never made it to later life.

Yeah, the two months of childhood nightmares really threw me back a couple of years academically. So I made sure to keep this one zipped up all tight in the old memory bank. I worked for IGN. I'm also setting my A-levels currently. Yeah, whenever I think of my own, just as you were talking about psychological terror,

I think of my own worst, most horrible nightmare. I can still remember extremely vividly, I dreamed of the end of the world. And it was a very kind of cosmic astronomical event by which I think it was kind of like you hear these stories of how in three billion years, the sun is going to swallow up the earth. Right. It was sort of like that, like a kind of like we could see from very far away, obviously, you know, something colliding with the sun and this just destruction slowly creeping towards us that, you know, millions of miles a second. And, you know, and dark matter blocking out the sun. So the earth suddenly goes black and parts of the moon start to rain down on earth and everyone's screaming and running around and you don't know what to do where's your loved ones and family and i'm screaming i'm in a night terror of cold sweat and i wake up and i had tears in my eyes it was insane i've never i don't think i've ever really

had one like that since right but i remember that was that was like, that blew my mind. I was like, I really felt like I experienced it. Yeah. Those ones are creepy, aren't they? Damn. I felt that grenade in my hand. Sometimes I wish that wasn't a dream. And I wish I had the balls to do that shit in real life. I like the idea that the events leading up to that dream was like a kid stole one of your

pokemon cards and your brain was like we'll see we'll see getting back to the story getting back to the story and john and david have experienced uh these sorts of possessions for the first time right he writes these sort of events happened more and of possessions for the first time right he writes these sort of events happened more and more consistently for the next month and a half but in interest of time we'll wrap this up to the final evening standing on the porch we heard someone stomping through the leaves on the ground on the opposite side of the house exhausted and angry at this point from not knowing what the hell was going on we ran around the front of the house hoping to find someone who was actually out there this whole time messing with us. About halfway

across the front of the house we heard the weirdest sound imaginable coming from the treetops several hundred feet away from us. It was like a girl crying mixed with a bear. It was frankly awful. We looked at each other and we could tell it was time to just go inside before we could even turn around this thing landed directly above us in a tree somehow having moved 200 feet or 60 meters in about three seconds it screamed again we began to run as we got to the garage area we heard a loud plop on the concrete interesting choice of phrase yeah a loud plop on the concrete and a cooing sign similar to the dilophosaurus noise from jurassic park i feel like we need to google that one real quick

um i'm gonna look this up try and get the dilophosaurus sorry that he pronounced it dilophosaurus do you know what that sounds like is the dilophosaurus the one that shoots tar from its head oh maybe that's it maybe i might be making that up a coup because he says it's a cooing sign so let's look it up i'm not really uh spent too much time learning paranormal shit not enough time learning real shit yeah i think it's the tar one yeah yeah you're right it has the kind of um man a bit like a lion. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that noise, this sign was followed by the motion light on like a security, a security light tripping on and coming on despite no one else being nearby. I heard Dave emit a low noise.

Like he was hurt and he was grabbing his chest. We continued running until we got inside. He lifted his shirt up and there was a fresh gash about two inches across his chest, right above his heart. It was bleeding heavily. A few days later a man did end up trying to break into the house and after everything that happened I decided to move on to another friend's house. Dave told me a few stories after I moved away and a few months later I moved across state to help my

parents out as my dad had gotten sick. To this day Dave and I will contact each other and try and figure out what actually happened. But is it the guy who tried to break in was it a weird coincidence or a natural phenomenon i do hope so but i truly feel like this was some sort of demon i don't know i can't explain anything that actually happened there it's something i lived through and i will always remember i don't have proof of these encounters dave does have a small scar in his chest to this day i don't expect anyone to believe anything that has happened to me and dave does have a small scar in his chest to this day i don't expect anyone to believe anything that has happened to me and dave either i know what i saw i know what we experienced i know it's hard to get behind i wouldn't believe my story either if it hadn't actually happened to me

i'm sure some of these things were just our minds playing tricks on us but some of the physical aspects i just can't ignore okay what are your immediate thoughts immediate thoughts my immediate thought is where's the beef where's the excuse i'm hungry man i just wondered when dinner when you're gonna eat when you're gonna eat you told me we'd have enchiladas and there's enchiladas that's good uh where's the where's the juice where's the girth of this what we've got is a very colorful descriptive exciting romantic story yeah what we don't have is a picture of the scar a picture of the trees which presumably are still there any evidence they say that once they saw the smoke monster they continue to watch it uh preceding nights and nights and there were numbers of

strange occurrences and at no point did they think to bring out a camera or, you know, a sound recorder, anything among those types of equipment. It's a fair accusation. It's a fair accusation. It's a little suspicious, especially when it gets to the point where your friends are being literally possessed and your windows are shaking, to still not go, all right, I think we should document this or tell people about this yeah that's a fair accusation yeah i mean it's tough because in a way with these paranormal instances

it's a case of how much good does evidence do because as you say we could absolutely have a picture here of the scar on dave's chest he could have got that scar from anywhere if yeah if you're in the business of deceiving people you could absolutely he works at a rock bar i'm assuming this guy is head to toe scars tats beard and we know there's snakes in that yard they're probably taking a chunk out of them every three days i know what you mean it would be nice to have some receipts on this um and it could be uh i you know we know john's listening to this podcast and it could be that he decides to follow up and we could do a follow-up pup yeah with this particular case and he could decide to defend himself from your accusations um i know what you mean we could

do with a little bit more evidence on our hands yeah which i would appreciate if you have anything john to send in more information but you know what as a submission this is awesome this is great this is exciting it's pretty good i thought i would continue by kind of dissecting a little bit of like the themes we came across here okay he named this story the circle there's a lot of what happened here a lot of different events like citing the snake citing the smoke beast citing this shadowy being the possession the noises the beast jumping across the treetops right bigfoot you're saying but at all i didn't say anything of the sort i would say sasquatch then no i would say nothing to do with what you are thinking in your in your own head those are the only two i know i mean we've covered many more than that

on this podcast don't act confused you've been here it's episode 26 or some shit if you don't think that vampires are sasquatch in disguise then i don't even know if you never brought this up in the sasquatch or vampire episode this is insane i want to see if you knew it was a test it was a test you failed you ripped the mic now be gone rip it out wires break and smash in your tv what is this even proving anymore but what does seem to be the center literally and metaphorically of this tale is can you put down the scissors please i don't remember picking these up excuse but they're mine now excuse sir i would ask you to uh open your mouth i have a grenade

i have a fantasy to fulfill. Snip, snip. You do just have a pair of scissors. I don't know why I picked these up. Just throw those. That's a bad place to throw them. I just throw them in your backpack. I'm traveling tomorrow, sir. You're trying to get me. You're getting a flight tomorrow.

What am I trying to do? Trying to plant me. I'm sorry. Continue. This is rude. I think you're possessed. I like the way you're so skeptical and not buying it. Also possessed.

Yeah. You're possessed. No. I'm not buying any of this. Also, Rory is not here. I bled out of my eyes way before I was possessed. I mean, I'm not that I'm possessed. The center of the story seems to be the circle.

And I'm sure as our listeners can guess, the idea of a circle, a paranormal circle, is, I mean, Jesus Christ, this is older than the wheel. This is older than anything, people. It predates goddamn humans, probably. In sort of magic, ritual magic, it's common to draw circles in chalk or salt to protect oneself during a ritual.

Oh, okay. So from that respect, they're often perceived in modern times as like a protective barrier. Cool. They're deemed to be very fragile. And so I thought this was really interesting. So you would break, if you have a protective circle, you break the circle by walking in or out of it. You know, you have to draw around you.

And then whenever you're done, you can leave. Right. There is a caveat to this if you draw a doorway you can enter and exit the circle at will without breaking the protective circle what don't draw it where yeah so if you are drawing with like if you're drawing with let's say like a staff or something in this in like let's say sand or if you're drawing with chalk okay you literally just create a small doorway like no again you're breezing over you literally what aren't you getting about this dude you just create a doorway so imagine just creating like a little circle are you starting to create a little circle i've got i'm on here and then just erect a door

via chalk absolutely um what i mean is leave a gap in this circle but isn't that just an And then just erect a door. Via chalk? Absolutely. What I mean is leave a gap in this circle. But isn't that just an incomplete circle? No. The demons can get in? I guess not. They don't know the password. It's demons suck.

No demons allowed is the password. I thought this was very interesting because I don't know if John's aware of this kind of mythology, but that's basically exactly what he explained, that they have this circular tree pattern, but that there's two trees creating a doorway. Oh, right. If you remember, and that was their way in and out,

and that was the only way that their friends were willing to follow them in and out of the circle. So their friends are demons. They did say they listen to black metal. Yeah. Probably. The devil's music. The devil's Spotify, as they call it.

Yes. That's interesting. That's creepy. It's quite an interesting revelation. Yes. Yeah. Also, what's interesting about John's description is how this circle is supposedly a natural formation there are lots of examples around the world of man-made structures we've all seen stonehenge and those kind of neolithic stone age structures where people create circle

circular patterns in ritualistic fashion but what about natural formations turns out they're real too in fairy circles it was believed that witches would... I should probably start by explaining what that is. Yes, of course, fairy circles. Are you familiar with fairy circles, Rory? No. Okay, I'm going to show you a pic or five. Can you see from here?

Yeah, right, okay. It appears to be simply just a circle in the ground where the vegetation is not growing or this is just stones in a field no they're mushrooms dude those are mushrooms yeah oh i can't see from here okay because in the previous one that would be somewhat easy to understand that there was some sort of lack of vegetation in a circle yeah this is the opposite this is on a lawn there is mushrooms growing in a perfect circle i mean there could have been mushrooms growing not in a perfect circle that were removed to make a circle i'm just saying you'll have to trust me on this one that this is if you uh if you guys at home google this that fairy rings are like just an extremely common thing to come across okay um there's lots of theories as to why sort of

scientific explanations as to why it happens that there's maybe that there were making them more dense um excuse you i just want to make a circle of mushrooms yeah i assume you think you can just plant trees in a circle too huh you f***** wizard hack wizard i don't know how you think that would ever go you wizardly b**ch you think mother nature let that one fly cruel mistress that she is taking all my trees away from me yeah people have hypothesized maybe that these mushrooms are kind of growing in a regular pattern but then as they lose nutrients they lose it in a kind of circular pattern going outwards so all that's left is a ring gotcha oh okay that makes sense yeah but it's not fully understood anyway you're on a site now called the fairy realm

i just want to make that very clear do you have a problem with the fairy realm.wordpress.com this isn't even wikipedia this is the fairy realm i think they might be a little biased when discussing the fairy rings very mushroom based as well yeah that's why i picked these ones too here is a a group of um of uh what are these what the f**k are these called again trees redwoods okay just thought you couldn't remember the word i'm also having a stroke but that's besides the point What the fuck are these? Trees Yeah, you can see them on the And this, what is this?

Laptop And I am human Yes I'm just really, really rushing to make a point I have no time No time for this Here is a picture of I am sweating profusely

I'll tell you that This is a group of redwoods. The beads of sweat on your forehead are forming a perfect circle. I feel like I'm losing you on the fairy rings. Yes, I was on board until the fairy rings. Granted, they're a hard sell on name alone. I love it that I was on board until you tried to give me more evidence. It's completely backfired.

At first I thought it was a nice story. Now I think it's completely backfired at first i thought it was a nice story now i think it's a bad lie okay i would like to direct your attention to this circle of redwood trees now mushrooms could be planted because they're teeny and they grow overnight those redwoods can be planted not f***ing redwoods they're like 300 foot tall or some shit. That doesn't mean they can't be planted. Do you know how long it takes a redwood to grow that tall? How long? Hundreds of years. But you've just used Stonehenge as an example.

Alright, this is bullshit. This is bullshit. I'm being called on my own podcast. Alright, I'm going to find out how long it takes redwoods to grow tall. This is great. Try to show up me, prick. My own damn episode. This is getting cut.

John, you threw me under a bus. God, this story was unbelievable. So I'm on straightdope.com currently. Nice. An offsite of the fairy realm whatever you discover it's not worth this it's just gonna be like oh yeah 300 years yeah okay so uh to get about like 200 feet tall or whatever the hell height they are right it could take like a hundred to two hundred years and they live for thousands of years okay granted someone could have planted what if they were interested in such an uh right exploit anyway they're reasonably common formations

so i've told you what a fairy circle is they're these natural formations of plants and this seems to be kind of what um they're describing it was believed in ancient times that witches would dance in these circles on certain evil nights of the year although they look beautiful it was believed in parts of europe that you could be cursed upon entering a fairy circle that you could even lose an eye or something like awful like that there are many traditions like this around the world people today will still not destroy fairy circles for fears of being cursed. In parts of England, it was believed if you entered a circle, you would become invisible and never be allowed to leave. Others claimed you would have to dance constantly to the point of madness or death. Wow, that's the most terrifying one of all.

There was one case I read of a man in Wales. This is fantastic. One case of a man and this is fantastic one case of a man in wales whose daughter strayed into a fairy circle so the man had to go in and rescue her so he enlisted four other men to tie ropes around him such that he could go in and they could pull him out if shit got hairy right yeah so he got in there grabbed his daughter and they yanked him out of there post haste so these circles just in the history of the paranormal they can be used as these spell circles you can make gateways but also the demons and witches themselves would also use circles yeah that was kind of an interesting turn so that's what i wanted to get at was people think it's mostly about protection but actually looks to be going back further in history they're seen as kind of a bad omen okay and that they belong to kind of fairies demons and otherworldly beings and that if you go

in there you're gonna get messed up damn okay so that kind of rings true with a little bit of john's story and it's interesting that he didn't even come in there with any mention of that or prior knowledge of that yeah but it seems to be what he's describing is that a demon seems to be hovering about there causing all sorts of shenanigans and drawing his flatmate in there and i don't know messing with him possessing him and all sorts the snake setting is pretty cool too he talked about the symbolism of that in the christian traditions snakes are considered an evil omen like the garden of eden and everything yeah whereas in other traditions they're considered a symbol of rebirth eternity and regeneration like an ouroboros kind of what I described for your belt there on your waist.

For me, it symbols friendship and utility. And making a living. Yeah, clothing. It is kind of funny how on one part of the world, they're bad, and then another part of the world, they're awesome. Yeah, I thought it was just universally little shit munchers yeah interestingly as well again like john's not really mentioning this stuff but the snake comes out of a tree which is one very biblical in the norse tradition a snake comes out of a tree to eat the roots of the world tree when the buddha sat under

the bodhi tree and achieved enlightenment a snake came down from the tree and wrapped itself around him it also appears in the Mayan and Egyptian traditions, and the list goes on. Damn. Snakes hanging out in trees and messing with people. It is crazy, isn't it, that, you know, you hear all these old tales and old folklore and history, but animals still exist in all of them.

Like, literally tales of Buddha discovering enlightenment, and it's not. It's just a snake. It's still a snake. The snakes we have today. Yeah. That's pretty cool, isn't it? It is.

I mean, I was going to talk of like dragons and stuff, but even like King Arthur, like talking with like the lady of the lake, but he's still on a horse. Yeah. Just a horse that we have, horses today. That's kind of cool. It brings a sense of like reality

to the folklore and the legends. I know. And it kind of drives home how much people have changed because the horse is doing the same thing that horses have always done. And the snake is doing the same thing that snakes have always done. But it's like the humans that have changed completely. Yeah. We're not insane anymore. Yeah. Well, that's what we think, I guess. Yeah. Or maybe they knew what was happening.

We need to get the snakes together. What do you think of that kind of symbolism? Are you the kind of person that if something like that happens to, witnessing like a snake and that kind of, if you get a bad vibe about something, how much do you listen to your intuition on that? I don't get a lot of bad vibes. I'm a pretty easygoing guy.

I used to walk under ladders for fun as a child. Cool. So in terms of... I i mean your life's kind of in shambles yes granted i just wanted to be around the bush but it's hard to say whether that was down to the ladder escapade or not yeah um so i never really i mean like like 13 is a curse number whatever it is all that stuff doesn't really bother me too much um yeah i don't get a lot of bad i mean i've been in your bedroom it's like some people have like a wall of kind of like they have a sliding wardrobe with a mirror you smashed it the first day you moved in yeah yeah oh i'm also scared of my own reflection so i just wanted to just get that out of the way double negative all right cool yeah uh so it doesn't bother me too much but i am intrigued

by the amount of similarities from john's story and the investigations that you've done into fairy circles and this folklore it's very interesting yeah it does like as you say we're very different from the people of the past but i mean if we look at it in relation to old stories like john's is like a textbook case yeah if you told that to like someone yeah in england like a couple hundred years ago a a thousand years ago, they'd be like, yeah, don't go in a fairy circle. Why would you do that? That's crazy. Yeah.

This story just happened, you know, further back in the past. It would have been in the Bible. Yeah. Like your dad would have just like slapped you over the back of the head and been like, what did I tell you about fairy circles? While he's tying the rope around his waist to go in and get you. Tying the snake around him to go in and get you tying the snake around him to go in and rescue you uh i think um what i would have really liked again my earlier point what i would have really liked is some more evidence even some photos of his fairy circle uh a little more details in the

story because at the end of the day this is my reputation as a paranormal investigator you know people look to me and they think well rory said this was real you know and that you know my my say in this uh industry the paranormal industry you know it's it's high up i'm somewhat of a professor of the paranormal that's right corporations rise and fall on your word you're you're like a trump of yourself in that regard whenever you tweet that vampires are real stocks plunge i know i've been trying to build that wall to keep the ghouls out despite my advisor saying ghouls can traverse walls quite easily by many advisors then make it a ghost wall obviously what would that be let the eggheads

figure that one out um so i don't know. Where are you coming down? I think I totally agree. It's very hard to reach any conclusion. You know, anecdotal evidence. Unfortunately, the paranormal world, you know, it's all anecdotal evidence. And so it's very difficult for us with no experience of this to take his word on shadow beasts jumping across treetops and um possessing his friend um and also where the kind of role of paranoia placebo and all sorts come into their experiences exactly but from the way that he's written and and uh the the way that he's laid out this story and kind of a

bit a bit like with our dear david story, kind of taking time to doubt himself along the way as well. And this has happened over a very sustained period. I believe that something has gone down there that if it was me or you living in that house, that it wouldn't just have been plain sailing for all those months. Right. You're a lunatic, sir. You're insane. Is that a convoluted way of saying that you are a yes on today's episode

i think if i had to go one way or the other i think i'm gonna go yes on this one wow i'm a no hard no i need more juice i need more that's more logs for the paranormal fire i'm ready i'm ready to believe but i need a bit more i need a bit more john uh i think it's gonna be uh you're gonna have to take us out you have to take us out to florida i need to see this thing first and to fruit loop island itself well john i hope you take that as an invitation to um school rory in this regard and uh hit us up with some pics hopefully you took something in the time that you lived there in coco florida and uh and come back with some proof to lay this to rest once and for all we're sitting on a 50 50 here yeah and again thank you so much for writing in with your own paranormal story if anyone else listening wants to send in their own paranormal tale and they don't mind us dissecting

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