This Paranormal Life - #039 9 Hikers Mysteriously Found Dead - The Dyatlov Pass Incident

Episode Date: December 12, 2017

When 9 hikers went missing in the Siberian tundra, everyone knew there was no happy ending. What they didn't know is it would go on to be known as the Dyatlov Pass Incident: one of the most famous and... disturbing unsolved mysteries known to man. Join Kit and Rory as they investigate on this episode of This Paranormal Life!Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is November a government ploy to stop Halloween and Christmas combining into a mega holiday that destroys the earth? No. Hey guys, it's Kit here. Well, as it happens, there was an issue with Rory's mic on this recording, so it's not going to sound quite as professional as usual. But do not be discouraged, it will be back to normal after next week. Sit tight, strap yourselves in, and enjoy this paranormal life do elephants remember everything because they're actually giant walking hard drives answers to these questions and more on this episode of this paranormal life welcome back to the podcast it is yet another tuesday
Starting point is 00:00:38 with yet another paranormal case ready to be busted wide open. Exactly. Everyone's favorite day of the week, Tuesday. You know who's tuning in today? Dalai Lama, ex-president Obama. Current president Trump. Ex-president George W. Jr. and Sr. Of course. You know the red phone that they have in the White House? Yes. That's me. That's my phone. I am your host today mr kit greer joined by my professional investigator co-host mr roy powers i am a professional paranormal investigator ask me how many times i've seen bigfoot how many times not yet not yet but i'm still hunting that's why i'm a paranormal investigator i'm still investigating if i'd seen him i'd stop if i'd seen him i would have retired. Exactly. Anyway, this Paranormal Life is the
Starting point is 00:01:25 only podcast where every week we dissect a different paranormal tale, claim, or case, and we get to the bottom of it to work out whether it is true or whether it is false. What do you got for us today, Kit? A pretty sober one. We'll just jump right in. Let's do it. The year is 1959. Recent. Igor. I mean, relatively, I suppose. I'm a little worried you started with that recent a year and then the first word you're going to say is Igor. What do you know about Frankenstein?
Starting point is 00:02:02 A lot of people are called Igor where this is set. Right. In Frankenstein's hometown. Frankenstein's castle. Igor is stepping off the train into Ivdel, a Siberian town in what was then the Soviet Union. Okay. It's very far north and extremely cold. Perfect conditions, he thought to himself.
Starting point is 00:02:22 He's brought nine friends on this journey. Seven guys, two girls. Egor is the leader. Sexist pig. Asshat. Unlike this podcast. Rayshia was off a bit. Should have been all dudes.
Starting point is 00:02:42 What are chicks doing on a guy's trip to Siberia? That's the only paranormal thing about this trip. That we're missing two dicks. Two dicks short of a party. If you're a female who listens to this podcast, I apologize. I'm so sorry. So we're cutting that joke previous, yes? Igor is the leader of this group.
Starting point is 00:03:03 At just 23 years old, they're all students at Ural Federal University Cool They've come to Ivdel on an expedition of sorts Everyone in the group is an expert skier With the highest certification available in the Soviet Union at the time It required over 300 kilometers of hiking and skiing At 23? Damn Igor?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Absolutely What a beast He's an outdoorsman yeah nothing like freaking podcasting young men of today who've barely skied 10 kilometers i can barely walk you ever heard of a mobility scooter they were taking time off university to embark on an ambitious hike trekking many miles across the siberian wilderness to a mountain called otorten okay how much are like russian place names just like you hear it and you're like fine i'll go with that yeah like i don't want to be just you could have said anything i could have said anything i could have said Toto's Africa. I guess that's probably a town somewhere in the world. It's so true. Yeah, like Mount Hokey Pokey.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You might be like, the Mount Hokey Pokey. I'm honored. So the legends are true. With spirits high, they took a truck to Viz High. Again, that's probably like Russian for McDonald's or something. The most northerly settlement in the region. That was as far as the road could take them. They found somewhere in Taun to buy loaves of bread.
Starting point is 00:04:36 They split them between them to keep their energy up before going to sleep that night to rest up before their big expedition. What are they, peasants? It's 1959 in Siberia. What do you want them to do? Buy a chocolate bar or something. I don't know. Splitting loaves of bread?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Like they're freaking biblical? I think, I might actually just for the sake of the podcast, I'll like look up what does Vizhai look like. Right. To give us a picture. It is a McDonald's. Shit. They split a fish filet before trekking the dangerous mountain they
Starting point is 00:05:07 split a single hash brown from the breakfast menu one of them was a student and got a free mcflurry but the icy weather was cold enough igor forgot his student card so had to settle for a double cheeseburger the toy adventure time But the meal was the only thing that would be happy on this journey. The fries salty and sour. Much like his compatriots on this trip. Much like
Starting point is 00:05:35 the soon to be produced Igor's tears. The pickles! Nowhere to be seen! Like the bodies of Igor's group. Ronald himself would frown upon- Okay, Kit, please. So what's the name of this town? Vizhai.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Alright, I'm looking at a picture of Vizhai. I see three houses. I now understand why- House is a strong word for what those are. I mean, one of them does have the golden M hovering above it. The freaking arches are everywhere. Yeah, it's like cabins, essentially four cabins. Splitting the bread at this point.
Starting point is 00:06:17 It's very much an outpost. Right, yeah. Getting some red dead birds. It's very much where criminals go to die i would say on the morning of january 27th they set off towards o'torton the mountain at the end of their road things were going well but one member of the group yuri yurden was struggling he suffered from a heart defect and rheumatism. What is he going on a goddamn treacherous mountain trek? So ambitious. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Guys, I swear. I can make the expedition team. He's in like three crutches somehow. Yuri, I don't think this is the... He's blind and deaf. Yuri, I don't know how to break this to you, man. You can't hear them. What? I can make it. to break this to you, man. You can't hear them. What?
Starting point is 00:07:06 I can make it. I just have to look past my disabilities and crippling fear of mountains and snow. Say, fellas, why are we so cold? No one tell him. He's in board shorts and flip-flops. When we hit the beach, guys. The joint pain that his afflictions caused him was making the journey unbearable.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Bad group. Don't let him sign up for the group. That's so bad. He sounds like he doesn't want to be there. Split him some more bread. Let him stay in the fucking McDonald's. Maybe it was one of those things. It's like when someone just won't take no for an answer you're like fine come to the Siberian wilderness and see what you think. Three steps and he's like
Starting point is 00:07:53 guys I actually want to freaking go back to McDonald's I think. The coffee's hot and the ice cream's gold. He really has it all. He sadly had to say goodbye to the group to return back to Vizhai and then on home. He left the other nine to continue their adventure unabated. All right, fair play. A couple days of trekking went by and the weather started to take an unexpected turn. The snow was getting thicker and thicker. They didn't expect it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 The visibility was just getting worse and worse. They didn't expect it. The visibility was just getting worse and worse. They got lost and turned slightly west, off track. This took them up a mountain known as Kolat Sakl. In a language called Mansi, that translates roughly to dead mountain. Jesus! Not death mountain, dead mountain. Right. When they realized they'd gone wrong, they decided to wait out the weather and camped on the side of the mountain. At this point, Yudin, who had left the group, was back at Vizhai and making his way home. It's February 12th at this point, and the guys at the sports club back at the university that Igor and his friends are members of
Starting point is 00:09:03 are expecting a telegram from Igor at any minute telling them he's on the way back well February 12th comes to an end and there's still no telegram what gives Uden reveals that Igor did tell him on the beginning of the expedition that they might be delayed it was common enough at that time there wasn't much communication expeditions frequently got delayed it's fine yeah they might get that's i saw they were headed up um just by death mountain yeah in between suicide hill and razor ridge so they had like three frozen big macs a piece between them so it was fine it'll be a while before they have to start eating each other it is no no worries it's fine
Starting point is 00:09:42 i didn't kill them if that's what you're wondering. Why do you have seven watches, Yuri? Is that a necklace of teeth? Did you always wear that? I had that before I went on the hike. My hip hurts, I have to leave. Mobility scooters out of there. Well, more days passed, and every day that went by,
Starting point is 00:10:03 people were getting more and more uncomfortable with what had happened. Where the hell is Igor? Why hasn't he contacted? Is he okay? By the 20th, the families of the students with Igor are demanding a search and rescue operation. It's not okay.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Volunteers, students and teachers suited up and headed north, first to Vizhai, then on into the wilderness. They journeyed north, retracing the footsteps of Igor and headed north. First to Vizhai, then on into the wilderness. They journeyed north, retracing the footsteps of Igor and his friends. But as days went by, the search got more and more desperate. The army was eventually called in. Helicopters are scouring the wilderness
Starting point is 00:10:37 and the surrounding mountains. Because these are presumably some snowy-ass mountains. This is hectic snow. They've been gone for long enough that trails are covered bodies possibly are covered you know you're dealing with some some treacherous situations up there absolutely happy meal toys six to seven foot deep yeah point yeah they're gonna be untraceable i'm not gonna say i have a lot of experience in those weather conditions um but uh 27 years old this year in july um i've made in my winters maybe six snowmen yeah yeah and i understand how difficult the snow can be to hold to mold yeah
Starting point is 00:11:16 um just to successfully place a carrot within the snow yeah yeah sometimes your hands go like red and it's quite hard to move them because it's very cold right and you need cocoa hot cocoa by mummy to make your hands heat up a little bit and that's difficult that is difficult and sometimes she doesn't marshmallows and you just have to throw a bit of rage yeah yeah and um inevitably smash snowman's head in and say is this what you wanted mummy snowman's dead mummy's crying mummy's crying yeah because snowman's nickname for my brother um who died in winter yeah so it's it's a bit of a sad sad track down memory so snow is difficult snow can be tough i feel like that was quite a circuitous um story to kind of talk about the death of your uh of your who snowman frosty my brother
Starting point is 00:12:09 what are you talking about man why are you being so weird all of a sudden i killed my brother is what i was alluding to i thought we moved on but you won't actually bring it no it's yeah you're right let's get out let's move on so you i mean this is quite a big thing to kind of try and move past let's move on you did admit to murder right yeah briefly though you can't i mean it doesn't really matter how long or how short it takes you talk about murdering someone it's still a uh i can commit murder quicker than you could say it and i admitted to it quicker than you could do it So think about that for a challenge Five seconds. I'll kill five people
Starting point is 00:12:49 Please go for every more second you give me how's that for a challenge? Please don't I'm begging you to not do that It's too late Oh my god he's down the street. Holy shit. He's knocking on doors. Oh my God. Stay in your homes, people. Where's the snowman? Brother! So sorry for that cut in the podcast, guys. Rory has a hot cocoa in his hand. He's on back on the sofa.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I think we're back to the episode. It's six years later. I'm on parole. We're going to finish the episode. We managed to get him out of prison and into a mental institution and out in the weekends long enough to record this podcast any beeps you hear is my ankle tag but we'll try and cut those in the edit well on february 26th weeks after igor first set foot into the snow the volunteer rescue team found Dead Mountain and found everything they had been looking for. Mikhail Sharavin was a student volunteer who first spotted the campsite. He spotted a tent half torn down and
Starting point is 00:13:56 covered with snow. It was empty but something wasn't right. No one remained in the tent but all of their possessions were still inside. Shoes, clothes, everything. Okay. More bizarre and disturbing, the tent hadn't just been left. It was cut open with a knife. Inside out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Nine sets of footprints radiated out of the tent into the surrounding snow. Nine sets of footprints radiated out of the tent into the surrounding snow. Footprints made by people in socks, in like one shoe, and even barefoot, were scattered around the site, leading in a path down the mountain towards a forest. At the edge of the path, in this wooded area, the team found evidence of a small fire, and beside it, two of the group, dead dead in the snow only in their underwear jeez there were broken branches about five meters above the fire indicating that they tried to climb a tree and try and look at the surrounding area and maybe try and find their way back to the camp right it was roughly minus 25 degrees when they left the tent.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Can't have lasted long. Between the wood and the camp, they found three more bodies, spaced 300 meters away from the camp, 400, and then 600 meters away. One was Igor. Igor's last name was Dyatlov, and this story came to be known as the Dyatlov Pass incident. Little side note. Cool.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Their bodies were posed like they were trying to get back to the tent. The other four were harder to find. Months later, they were found by rescue dogs. Right. Buried under, like, five meters of snow. Oh, my God. Two of the bodies were dressed partially in the clothes of their friends that died before them. They couldn't find their way back to the camp and they were struggling to stay warm. Medical examinations of the bodies revealed no fatal injuries on some of them. However,
Starting point is 00:15:56 others were devastated. Cracked skulls, severe head trauma, major chest fractures. One doctor said the pressure required for these injuries was like a car crash and despite these injuries they showed no outward signs of harm except for one body which was missing her tongue, eyes and lips. Jesus. Experts disagreed over whether this was due to the body disintegrating or not. Disintegrating. Like... The hell's going on here, Kit?
Starting point is 00:16:30 I think there was some talk of, like, I don't know, like, that body was maybe found face down in the snow. In acid? There was no sign of struggle with any of the bodies. There was no sign of struggle with the footprints or any of the bodies whatsoever. Weirdly, they had only died six to eight hours after the last meal. So this wasn't even like they ran out of supplies and died. Something happened and they were forced into the wilderness and died.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Because there was no guilty party, the case files were committed to a secret archive and have only been made available since the 90s. Everything after the facts I've just told you is pure speculation. What could possibly have happened to them? The official Soviet investigator into the tragedy, Lev Ivanov, concluded in his report that all nine deaths had been caused by what he described as an unknown elemental force with which they were unable to overcome. Ooh, spooky. Privately, he told people they'd been killed by aliens. But he had to tone it down a bit for the press.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Of course, yeah, yeah. And that's where the official investigations ended. Terrible investigation. Really abysmal. It was either a force of nature or aliens. Case closed. I don't know. I could tell you that.
Starting point is 00:17:55 What do you do, I guess, if people just mysteriously die? I don't know. Although this is weird. Access to the entire area was sealed off from prying eyes for the next four years, by which time the authorities believed this incident would have disappeared off the radar as many strange happenings did in the Soviet empire. Hmm. In such a remote location,
Starting point is 00:18:13 one unlikely clue came as a report from perhaps the people closest to the site at the time of the incident. There was another group of hikers about 50 kilometers south of the incident they reported that they saw strange orange spheres in the night sky to the north on the night of the incident so aliens basically similar spheres were observed in ivdel and adjacent areas continually during the period from february to March 1959 by various independent witnesses,
Starting point is 00:18:47 including the meteorological service and the military. So those are the months after this event happened there were these sightings in the sky. Indeed, some have noticed that the last photograph that was on a roll of film on the person of one of the victims yeah appears to capture a giant flash in the night sky but some people argue that might just have been like a glare or like accidental overexposure or when you like are taking a photo when it's snowing and then a bit of snow is right in front of the flash and then it's like that bit of snow i guess you're the film guy yeah is that what happens i guess yeah oh no. Oh, no, I'm thinking aliens.
Starting point is 00:19:25 It was an alien. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, when you, like, try and take a photo in the snow, and an alien cuts out your tongue and takes your eyes and puts your face down in the snow. Goddamn, I hate when that happens. Yes, it's really annoying. Thoughts so far?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Positive? Otherwise? It's a mysterious one. I don't quite know what to make of it. There's not really any explanations that I can see as of now. What are your thoughts? Yeah, that's what I kind of think is, yeah, like to put yourself in the shoes of the investigator in this case. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:00 That's a pretty wild experience or the students that that uh discovered them i don't know what you would make of that what was their last meal you said they they died recently after their last meal wasn't that bread they broke was it no that was like a couple weeks previous okay at that point they've been they've been out for a long time i think um i think they brought food with them and they'd also kind of foraged food so there you go crazy berries crazy berries that's my hypothesis crazy berries or some goddamn like insane little rabbit and they caught the little mad hatter and ate him and you think it was an alice in wonderland situation yeah absolutely i think igor's freaking real name was I yeah, and he was late for an important date and he ate the rabbit
Starting point is 00:20:47 I lost his tongue. I need prison Alice in Wonderland, can you eat meat? That's so bad that you go insane and take all your clothes off. Oh That's a hard Google search isn't it? What I'll just google girl clothes off. Okay, Let's just see what happens there Girl off It's porn It's a lot of porn I can't say I didn't want it to happen You know what?
Starting point is 00:21:14 We'll go page two, just check Just see what's happening I'll add Russian Yeah, actually link me that And we can like cross analysis this I'll move straight to page 35 And then we'll try to meet in the middle uh okay okay well i'm sending you that one there uh-huh i'm gonna add
Starting point is 00:21:30 i know it was cold but i'm gonna put hot in there and naked yeah just because they were naked whenever they were students i'm gonna put students yeah but like co-eds or something like that yeah yeah okay co-eds hot student naked russian that should get us to this case i i would imagine i'm gonna throw jizz in there just to see what comes up in case some sort of sex accident you know how things can get hot and heavy in the is that if everyone's in a tent together you go up there to the woods you have a little tent orgy no i don't know where i'm going with that that doesn't mean you go insane and lose a tongue. This is a good point to bring this up. One man, Donnie Eichar, who investigated this case and made a documentary about it, he argued that there may have been a
Starting point is 00:22:16 romantic encounter that left some of them only partially clothed, but also led to a violent dispute he said it's highly implausible by all indications the group was largely harmonious and sexual tension was confined to platonic flirtation and crushes i think he thinks there may have been a violent orgy right okay that maybe like the seven dudes got a bit competitive over the two ladies right that seems like reaching to me i don't think that seems like reaching to you not the orange orbs in the sky i think aliens is more likely than horny students right personally but just in case we'll continue with the horny student searching right right right let's absolutely not Thrown off that As much as I want to Google the orbs thing
Starting point is 00:23:07 The aliens orb thing I think we're getting Somewhere at the minute With the With the porn angle With the student angle Yeah I think it's worth
Starting point is 00:23:15 Investigating With the porn hub angle I mean the Crystallinks.com Crystallinks Research Yeah Crystallinks.com
Starting point is 00:23:22 Duh Links Crystallinks.com. Links, crystallinks.com. Com. Dot com. Dot com. Shit. Let me take a five, actually.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I stand up clearly with an erection. Weirdly bent over. I'll be a minute. Just need to think about snowman and my brother again. Oh, it's turning into a rage erection The worst kind I think that's plausible Do you?
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well I know so that's a condition of hypothermia Isn't it? Like the body is convinced It's not You know when the body is exposed To extreme temperatures And you need to get it on? When your body goes into a shock and it believes you're dying, so it sends you into a-
Starting point is 00:24:11 One last lay before- Not so much fight or flight, but fight or f***. What a terrible, terrible phrase. An old, old grandpa telling you about his past. He's like, it's one of those fatter f***ing scenarios. It's like, grandpa, that is not the phrase. What? Um, no, hypothermia, the body starts to believe that it's actually the opposite and you become incredibly warm.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And it's a sign of hypothermia if you actually start taking off layers of clothes. I'm glad you brought this up so we can get off the whole porn angle. Apparently that's called paradoxical undressing. I didn't know this technical term for that. That's also a porn site. Also, the $60 tier of our Patreon is known as Paranormal Undressing. You can see us in the nude, very lewd, and brood-ing. in the nude, very lewd, and brood-ing. 150 is fight or f***.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You can choose to fight or f*** one of us. Your choice. It's like f***, marry, kill, but just two of those things. Fortunately, every contributor has picked to fight me. And actually, they're pretty big dudes. They're really strong. I'm actually terrified. Kick my ass.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I'm begging for a f***. No one wants to do it because I look like shit because I've been beaten so bad. It's a cycle. Trying to fob them off with this paranormal life merch, but they're actually pretty dead set on the fight. International Science Times posited that the hikers' deaths were caused by hypothermia, which can induce a behavior known as paradoxical undressing, in which the hypothermic subjects remove their clothes in response to perceived feelings of burning warmth. It is totally accepted that six of the nine hikers died of hypothermia. accepted that six of the nine hikers died of hypothermia part of the problem with that theory is that several in the group appear to have actually acquired additional clothing from
Starting point is 00:26:12 their friends who had already died which suggests they were sound enough mind to like try and warm up yeah um so it doesn't really explain the whole nine hikers dying of undressing. Were the ones that got the clothes taken off them the ones that were all smashed up? I don't believe so. I believe the ones that were smashed up were the ones that were trying to get back to camp. I believe the ones that were undressed and their friends had taken their clothes were the ones that were found buried. Right. And this is the crazy thing with this case is dive into it now, but there's like a bunch of theories about what could have happened.
Starting point is 00:26:53 And the problem is none of them satisfy. So, for example, lots of people have hypothesized they're in a snowy mountain. They're camped on the side of a mountain. They've been crushed. Some of them are buried under snow. It's an avalanche. Gotcha. Case closed. Boom. the side of a mountain they've been crushed some of them are buried under snow it's an avalanche gotcha case closed boom reporters on the site of the incident said that the mountain did not show any obvious signs of an avalanche having taken place it would have left certain patterns of
Starting point is 00:27:18 debris distributed over a wide area the bodies found within 10 days of the event were covered with a very shallow layer of snow and there was only a couple of the party covered in a deep layer of snow. Over 100 expeditions to the region have been held since the incident and none of them have ever reported conditions that might create an avalanche.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And thankfully, that more or less concludes the shitty, boring theories of what could have happened. And I will dive into the shit-hot sexy theories. Right, it's good to get those ones out of the way. We've got to cover all angles. One theory is that there was a wind travelling through the mountains that created what's known as a Kármán vortex, which can produce infrasound capable of inducing panic attacks in humans. Wow is that real? So they're suggesting that it got so windy they went insane. Right. Yeah this guy Donnie Eichardt and he suggests that
Starting point is 00:28:18 it could have caused physical discomfort and mental distress and might have caused them in a panic to run out of the tent and freak out maybe if it happened to one or two of them the others maybe ran out to try and get them back and then in the blizzard couldn't find their way back that's an all right theory they're pretty stretchy i mean me you me kid we grew up in the windy city northern ireland um that's what they call it? Yeah. It's the borderline, the windiest place on earth. That's fair. And I don't recall being that mad as a child. Maybe it was the wrong frequency of wind.
Starting point is 00:28:53 That's true. It was quite low, low wind. Was that why I was always shitting myself? It was very much a brown noise wind. Yeah. I know. We had that nice like sea breeze. Maybe if you're in like a mountain pass
Starting point is 00:29:06 it's just sounds like hyenas everywhere at all times very much an axl rose s kyle welcome to the mountains please take off your clothes please please i want to take your eyes Please take off your clothes! Please, please! I wanna take your eyes! It's just a theory. We're testing all the theories. It's true. You know, extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. Some people believe, this one's a little bit more believable to me,
Starting point is 00:29:41 that there was some kind of military accident. There seemed to be records of parachute mines being tested by the Russian military in the areas surrounding this mountain at the time that they were there. Apparently parachute mines detonate a meter or two before they hit the ground and would maybe produce similar damage to that experienced by the hikers. Uh sort of heavy internal damage with very little external trauma. This might have given rise to the orbs that were in the sky. Yeah, I guess. It could have been some sort of aircraft or the actual bombs dropping.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I guess that makes a bit more sense because if that was true, it would explain the lights and the government being so weird about the event. Because they obviously don't want to take blame for the death of these people yeah they probably thought it was like a deserted area so again drop some bombs on death mountain and as i say we've got kind of the plausible ones um out of the way to make room for really the only real conclusion to what has happened what i think is the most believable theory theory it really ties together all of the loose ends really explains all of the little intricacies of how each victim died I'm very excited about this Sasquatch you were telling me
Starting point is 00:30:57 that that explains so little the blunt force trauma inflicted upon Igor and his compatriots was not that of a yeti beating down upon them with mighty force. Mighty radioactive paws. You're telling me it wasn't a radioactive yeti? That's a genuine theory? Absolutely it is. Some sort of
Starting point is 00:31:19 ice beast? Absolutely. What else would live on Dead Mountain in the outback of the frozen Siberian tundra than a Sasquatch? Wolves? A bear? Real creatures? You look confused. I've never heard of radioactive wolves in my life. Now a radioactive Sasquatch on the other hand... Can you sell me on it? If you got any like what's their argument towards sassy? Gut feeling.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I don't need evidence where I'm going. I cock a magnum. To Siberia. Get in the Land Rover. It's a skateboard. I said, get in. The scientist that mentioned the blunt force trauma to some of the students matched that of a car crash.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Right. No wolf is doing that. No bear is doing that. A bear could. Only a Sasquatch could deal those kind of blows. A bear, absolutely a bear could doing that. A bear could? Only a Sasquatch could deal those kind of blows. A bear, absolutely a bear could do that. You see what they did to Leo?
Starting point is 00:32:31 They wrecked him. That's true, but what people don't realize is Leonardo DiCaprio is a very, very small man. Not only in mind and spirit, but also in stature. He's like a, I think I googled this prior to uh researching this case he's a strong four foot five or six the technical term is hobbit yeah um he is actually on a mission with a ring um and in that movie he met a bear and was destroyed by the bear he was actually uh struck from the casting of lord of the rings for being too hobbit like yeah they
Starting point is 00:33:05 couldn't really match up the other normal humans with leonardo's truly hobbit like features it would have been a whole movie to himself really it would have been two layers of force perspective yeah i mean leo would have had to essentially been standing on the lens of the camera to make him look like the same size as the actors he is borderline a pixel leo he is so small industry insiders actually have let slip on um reddit that on the filming of the great gatsby he had a freaking gillette sponsorship to keep his freaking toes from not overgrowing into a bush of hobbit-like foot hair. He's an actual hobbit. I would go bare before Sasquatch, personally.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Uh-huh. But if you have some fresh evidence, some fresh, no-preserved evidence to deliver upon me right now, I'm ready. I'm willing. I'm willing. Time is passing. I'm filibustering.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Do you know what that word means? It means I sit here until I'm right. Okay, I will concede for the sake of the narrative of this story that maybe the Yeti isn't the number one most plausible excuse for what's happened here. But listen, I'm done explaining what's happened here. I presented you with quite enough evidence about what's happened.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I think you need to come to your own conclusions. What do you make of this case? It's interesting. It's a mysterious one. It surely is. I'm not ready to just doubt this one right off the bat that's what i'm thinking um because it's so damn weird and weirdly down to earth yeah as well it's very highly documented i mean this one is like the russian state is like yeah
Starting point is 00:34:59 we don't know we're like your guess is as good as i don't know we don't know what happened to the mines people people to the mines. People. People in the mines. There were no mines. What? You said mines. Why did you say mines then? I think maybe something weird with the Russian government
Starting point is 00:35:15 is probably the best explanation. Especially, didn't you say it was cordoned off for like four months? After the fact, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how weird that is. I'm not sure sure i can't make my mind up really well they found everyone yeah and it was still cordoned off for four months yeah but with was there activity or was it just like this might not be safe i mean we should have
Starting point is 00:35:37 known that the death mountain wasn't going to be the leisurely stroll that we thought it was going to be i mean they for sure shouldn't have put it in the Lonely Planet Siberia guide. That was rude of them. Yeah, they're like, look, Death Mountain's closed down. Just take the West Road to Puppy Hill. All right, thank you very much. Wait, that's where we test the... Nukes.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Puppy Hill is nuked. Puppies. Screwed hundreds of feet into the air. Yeah, I think You investigated this what are you thinking What's your deal Yeah it's very tough I don't know why I'm like so unconvinced about them
Starting point is 00:36:18 Coordinating it off I feel like On the one hand To give them the benefit of the doubt ten nine people died there in mysterious circumstances with radioactive activity and their tongues ripped out of their heads so i kind of understand why they might have cordoned off because they're like let's just prevent that ever happening again right it reminds me of um do you ever see the Tonguska impact? No.
Starting point is 00:36:47 It was this crazy, I think it only reminds me because it happened in Siberia. You can look it up. It was basically like a modern meteor strike, but it was because it was so out in the wilderness of Siberia and no one lived for hundreds of miles. No one saw it happen. Yeah. And then basically one day people just came
Starting point is 00:37:05 across forest just flattened for like hundreds of miles whoa and it was like a meteor impact just destroyed this whole area in siberia and this isn't the last hundred years there's photographs of it that's crazy and i don't know it just makes me think maybe there's some wild like cosmic explanation or like natural phenomenon like the investigator said you know he didn't he didn't say it was a yeti he didn't say it was an explosion he was like just some natural phenomenon has made this happen yeah wow but i don't know if we have to start drawing conclusions i think for me the most likely thing yeah maybe military testing something that caused them to just flee and panic and then get lost yeah i think i really want to say yes it's paranormal right but i think it's not but you think there's something going on i don't know
Starting point is 00:38:02 if it was a yeti i don't know if it was like some sort of paranormal haunting. I think something we don't understand yet happened. I don't think it was just a landmine. I don't think it was just an avalanche. Those things, like the evidence is kind of like higgledy-piggledy. Right. I think we don't know what it is yet. For that reason, it's unexplained
Starting point is 00:38:25 it's paranormal to me that's a yes that's a yes nice one we finally got a yes to break our streak uh i'm going no cool i think it was a weird sex party that went south real fast when they tried to go south uh real i think um these people were freaks most likely really rude there is memorials all over siberia for these nine students i think uh something weird happened up there with them or some of them some of them tried to flee some of them froze to death some of them got their heads caved in uh the orange lights that's a little harder to explain and i don't know if i can i think that's paranormal but i don't see enough evidence here to suggest what happened to these people being paranormal more than fair so you're saying no you traitorous
Starting point is 00:39:16 piece of shit i will freeze you so cold anyway let's get this over with so we can continue the uh right the search just in case there's more evidence that's right we need to i think this is more of an open investigation right um i can't wait to see the research notes for this podcast which you can also see by donating as little as two dollars to our patreon the this paranormal life patreon quite right if you want to see the images uh all trust me you want to see these images of the uh frozen to death head caved in students frozen in the snow for time and memoriam just check out our show notes blog that's on the two dollar tier plus on patreon for more than that you can get into merchandise and all that stuff if you want to get totally crazy we also have a super secret super exclusive very very very are we even going
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