This Paranormal Life - #039 9 Hikers Mysteriously Found Dead - The Dyatlov Pass Incident
Episode Date: December 12, 2017When 9 hikers went missing in the Siberian tundra, everyone knew there was no happy ending. What they didn't know is it would go on to be known as the Dyatlov Pass Incident: one of the most famous and... disturbing unsolved mysteries known to man. Join Kit and Rory as they investigate on this episode of This Paranormal Life!Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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on this episode of this paranormal life welcome back to the podcast it is yet another tuesday
with yet another paranormal case ready to be busted wide open. Exactly. Everyone's favorite day of the week, Tuesday. You know who's
tuning in today? Dalai Lama, ex-president Obama. Current president Trump. Ex-president George W.
Jr. and Sr. Of course. You know the red phone that they have in the White House? Yes. That's me.
That's my phone. I am your host today mr kit greer joined by my
professional investigator co-host mr roy powers i am a professional paranormal investigator ask
me how many times i've seen bigfoot how many times not yet not yet but i'm still hunting
that's why i'm a paranormal investigator i'm still investigating if i'd seen him i'd stop
if i'd seen him i would have retired. Exactly. Anyway, this Paranormal Life is the
only podcast where every week we dissect a different paranormal tale, claim, or case,
and we get to the bottom of it to work out whether it is true or whether it is false.
What do you got for us today, Kit? A pretty sober one. We'll just jump right in. Let's do it.
The year is 1959. Recent.
Igor.
I mean, relatively, I suppose.
I'm a little worried you started with that recent a year and then the first word you're going to say is Igor.
What do you know about Frankenstein?
A lot of people are called Igor where this is set.
Right.
In Frankenstein's hometown.
Frankenstein's castle.
Igor is stepping off the train into Ivdel, a Siberian town in what was then the Soviet Union.
Okay.
It's very far north and extremely cold.
Perfect conditions, he thought to himself.
He's brought nine friends on this journey.
Seven guys, two girls.
Egor is the leader.
Sexist pig.
Asshat.
Unlike this podcast.
Rayshia was off a bit.
Should have been all dudes.
What are chicks doing on a guy's trip to Siberia?
That's the only paranormal thing about this trip.
That we're missing two dicks.
Two dicks short of a party.
If you're a female who listens to this podcast,
I apologize.
I'm so sorry. So we're cutting that joke previous, yes?
Igor is the leader of this group.
At just 23 years old,
they're all students at Ural Federal University Cool
They've come to Ivdel on an expedition of sorts
Everyone in the group is an expert skier
With the highest certification available in the Soviet Union at the time
It required over 300 kilometers of hiking and skiing
At 23? Damn
Igor?
Absolutely What a beast He's an outdoorsman yeah nothing
like freaking podcasting young men of today who've barely skied 10 kilometers i can barely walk
you ever heard of a mobility scooter they were taking time off university to embark on an ambitious hike trekking many miles across the siberian
wilderness to a mountain called otorten okay how much are like russian place names just like you
hear it and you're like fine i'll go with that yeah like i don't want to be just you could have
said anything i could have said anything i could have said Toto's Africa. I guess that's probably a town somewhere in the world.
It's so true.
Yeah, like Mount Hokey Pokey.
You might be like, the Mount Hokey Pokey.
I'm honored.
So the legends are true.
With spirits high, they took a truck to Viz High.
Again, that's probably like Russian for McDonald's or something.
The most northerly settlement in the region.
That was as far as the road could take them.
They found somewhere in Taun to buy loaves of bread.
They split them between them to keep their energy up before going to sleep that night
to rest up before their big expedition.
What are they, peasants?
It's 1959 in Siberia.
What do you want them to do?
Buy a chocolate bar or something.
I don't know.
Splitting loaves of bread?
Like they're freaking biblical?
I think, I might actually just for the sake of the podcast,
I'll like look up what does Vizhai look like.
Right.
To give us a picture.
It is a McDonald's.
Shit.
They split a fish filet before trekking the dangerous mountain they
split a single hash brown from the breakfast menu one of them was a student and got a free mcflurry
but the icy weather was cold enough igor forgot his student card so had to settle for a double
cheeseburger the toy adventure time But the meal was the only thing
that would be happy on this journey.
The fries
salty and sour.
Much like his compatriots on this trip.
Much like
the soon to be produced
Igor's tears.
The pickles!
Nowhere to be seen!
Like the bodies of Igor's group.
Ronald himself would frown upon- Okay, Kit, please.
So what's the name of this town?
Vizhai.
Alright, I'm looking at a picture of Vizhai.
I see three houses.
I now understand why-
House is a strong word for what those are.
I mean, one of them does have the golden M hovering above it.
The freaking arches are everywhere.
Yeah, it's like cabins, essentially four cabins.
Splitting the bread at this point.
It's very much an outpost.
Right, yeah.
Getting some red dead birds.
It's very much where criminals go to die i would say on the morning of january 27th
they set off towards o'torton the mountain at the end of their road things were going well but one
member of the group yuri yurden was struggling he suffered from a heart defect and rheumatism. What is he going on a goddamn treacherous mountain trek?
So ambitious.
I know.
Guys, I swear.
I can make the expedition team.
He's in like three crutches somehow.
Yuri, I don't think this is the...
He's blind and deaf.
Yuri, I don't know how to break this to you, man.
You can't hear them.
What? I can make it. to break this to you, man. You can't hear them. What?
I can make it.
I just have to look past my disabilities
and crippling fear of mountains and snow.
Say, fellas, why are we so cold?
No one tell him.
He's in board shorts and flip-flops.
When we hit the beach, guys.
The joint pain that his afflictions caused him was making the journey unbearable.
Bad group.
Don't let him sign up for the group.
That's so bad.
He sounds like he doesn't want to be there.
Split him some more bread.
Let him stay in the fucking McDonald's.
Maybe it was one of those things.
It's like when someone just won't take no for an answer you're like fine come to the Siberian wilderness and see what you think. Three steps and he's like
guys I actually want to freaking go back to McDonald's I think.
The coffee's hot and the ice cream's gold. He really has it all.
He sadly had to say goodbye to the group to return back to Vizhai and then on home.
He left the other nine to continue their adventure unabated.
All right, fair play.
A couple days of trekking went by and the weather started to take an unexpected turn.
The snow was getting thicker and thicker.
They didn't expect it.
The visibility was just getting worse and worse. They didn't expect it. The visibility was just
getting worse and worse. They got lost and turned slightly west, off track. This took them up a
mountain known as Kolat Sakl. In a language called Mansi, that translates roughly to dead mountain.
Jesus! Not death mountain, dead mountain. Right. When they realized they'd gone wrong,
they decided to wait out the weather and camped on the side of the mountain.
At this point, Yudin, who had left the group, was back at Vizhai and making his way home.
It's February 12th at this point,
and the guys at the sports club back at the university that Igor and his friends are members of
are expecting a telegram from Igor
at any minute telling them he's on the way back well February 12th comes to an end and there's
still no telegram what gives Uden reveals that Igor did tell him on the beginning of the expedition
that they might be delayed it was common enough at that time there wasn't much communication
expeditions frequently got delayed it's fine yeah
they might get that's i saw they were headed up um just by death mountain yeah in between suicide
hill and razor ridge so they had like three frozen big macs a piece between them so it was fine
it'll be a while before they have to start eating each other it is no no worries it's fine
i didn't kill them if that's what you're wondering.
Why do you have seven watches, Yuri?
Is that a necklace of teeth?
Did you always wear that?
I had that before I went on the hike.
My hip hurts, I have to leave.
Mobility scooters out of there.
Well, more days passed, and every day that went by,
people were getting more and more
uncomfortable with what had happened.
Where the hell is Igor?
Why hasn't he contacted?
Is he okay?
By the 20th, the families of the students with Igor are demanding a search and rescue
operation.
It's not okay.
Volunteers, students and teachers suited up and headed north, first to Vizhai, then on
into the wilderness.
They journeyed north, retracing the footsteps of Igor and headed north. First to Vizhai, then on into the wilderness. They journeyed north,
retracing the footsteps of Igor and his friends.
But as days went by,
the search got more and more desperate.
The army was eventually called in.
Helicopters are scouring the wilderness
and the surrounding mountains.
Because these are presumably some snowy-ass mountains.
This is hectic snow.
They've been gone for long enough that trails are covered bodies possibly are covered you know you're dealing with some
some treacherous situations up there absolutely happy meal toys six to seven foot deep yeah
point yeah they're gonna be untraceable i'm not gonna say i have a lot of experience in those
weather conditions um but uh 27 years old this year in july um i've made in my winters maybe
six snowmen yeah yeah and i understand how difficult the snow can be to hold to mold yeah
um just to successfully place a carrot within the snow yeah yeah sometimes your hands go like red and it's quite hard to move
them because it's very cold right and you need cocoa hot cocoa by mummy to make your hands heat
up a little bit and that's difficult that is difficult and sometimes she doesn't marshmallows
and you just have to throw a bit of rage yeah yeah and um inevitably smash snowman's head in
and say is this what you wanted mummy snowman's
dead mummy's crying mummy's crying yeah because snowman's nickname for my brother um who died
in winter yeah so it's it's a bit of a sad sad track down memory so snow is difficult
snow can be tough i feel like that was quite a circuitous um story to kind of talk about the death of your uh of your who snowman frosty my brother
what are you talking about man why are you being so weird all of a sudden
i killed my brother is what i was alluding to i thought we moved on but you won't actually bring
it no it's yeah you're right let's get out let's move on so you i mean this is quite a big thing
to kind of try and move past let's move on you did admit to murder right yeah briefly though
you can't i mean it doesn't really matter how long or how short it takes you talk about murdering
someone it's still a uh i can commit murder quicker than you could say it and i admitted
to it quicker than you could do it So think about that for a challenge
Five seconds. I'll kill five people
Please go for every more second you give me how's that for a challenge? Please don't I'm begging you to not do that
It's too late
Oh my god he's down the street. Holy shit. He's knocking on doors. Oh my God. Stay in your homes, people.
Where's the snowman?
Brother!
So sorry for that cut in the podcast, guys.
Rory has a hot cocoa in his hand.
He's on back on the sofa.
I think we're back to the episode.
It's six years later.
I'm on parole.
We're going to finish the episode.
We managed to get him out of prison and into a mental institution and out in the weekends long enough to record this podcast
any beeps you hear is my ankle tag but we'll try and cut those in the edit well on february 26th
weeks after igor first set foot into the snow the volunteer rescue team found Dead Mountain and found everything they had been looking for. Mikhail Sharavin was a student
volunteer who first spotted the campsite. He spotted a tent half torn down and
covered with snow. It was empty but something wasn't right. No one remained
in the tent but all of their possessions were still inside.
Shoes, clothes, everything.
Okay.
More bizarre and disturbing, the tent hadn't just been left.
It was cut open with a knife.
Inside out.
Okay.
Nine sets of footprints radiated out of the tent into the surrounding snow.
Nine sets of footprints radiated out of the tent into the surrounding snow.
Footprints made by people in socks, in like one shoe, and even barefoot,
were scattered around the site, leading in a path down the mountain towards a forest.
At the edge of the path, in this wooded area, the team found evidence of a small fire,
and beside it, two of the group, dead dead in the snow only in their underwear jeez
there were broken branches about five meters above the fire indicating that they tried to climb a tree and try and look at the surrounding area and maybe try and find their way back to the camp
right it was roughly minus 25 degrees when they left the tent.
Can't have lasted long.
Between the wood and the camp, they found three more bodies,
spaced 300 meters away from the camp, 400, and then 600 meters away.
One was Igor.
Igor's last name was Dyatlov,
and this story came to be known as the Dyatlov Pass incident.
Little side note.
Cool.
Their bodies were posed like they were trying to get back to the tent.
The other four were harder to find.
Months later, they were found by rescue dogs.
Right.
Buried under, like, five meters of snow.
Oh, my God.
Two of the bodies were dressed partially in the clothes of their friends that died before them. They couldn't find their way back to the camp and they were struggling to stay warm. Medical
examinations of the bodies revealed no fatal injuries on some of them. However,
others were devastated. Cracked skulls, severe head trauma, major chest fractures.
One doctor said the pressure required
for these injuries was like a car crash and despite these injuries they showed
no outward signs of harm except for one body which was missing her tongue, eyes
and lips. Jesus. Experts disagreed over whether this was due to the body
disintegrating or not. Disintegrating.
Like...
The hell's going on here, Kit?
I think there was some talk of, like, I don't know,
like, that body was maybe found face down in the snow.
In acid?
There was no sign of struggle with any of the bodies.
There was no sign of struggle with the footprints or any of the bodies whatsoever.
Weirdly, they had only died six to eight hours after the last meal.
So this wasn't even like they ran out of supplies and died.
Something happened and they were forced into the wilderness and died.
Because there was no guilty party, the case files were committed to a secret archive and have
only been made available since the 90s. Everything after the facts I've just told you is pure
speculation. What could possibly have happened to them? The official Soviet investigator into the
tragedy, Lev Ivanov, concluded in his report that all nine deaths had been caused by what he described
as an unknown elemental force with which they were unable to overcome.
Ooh, spooky.
Privately, he told people they'd been killed by aliens.
But he had to tone it down a bit for the press.
Of course, yeah, yeah.
And that's where the official investigations ended.
Terrible investigation.
Really abysmal.
It was either a force of nature or aliens.
Case closed.
I don't know.
I could tell you that.
What do you do, I guess, if people just mysteriously die?
I don't know.
Although this is weird.
Access to the entire area was sealed off from prying eyes for the next four years,
by which time the authorities believed this incident would have disappeared off the radar
as many strange happenings did in the Soviet empire.
Hmm.
In such a remote location,
one unlikely clue came as a report
from perhaps the people closest to the site
at the time of the incident.
There was another group of hikers
about 50 kilometers south of the incident they reported
that they saw strange orange spheres in the night sky to the north on the night of the incident so
aliens basically similar spheres were observed in ivdel and adjacent areas continually during
the period from february to March 1959 by various independent witnesses,
including the meteorological service and the military. So those are the months after this
event happened there were these sightings in the sky. Indeed, some have noticed that the last
photograph that was on a roll of film on the person of one of the victims yeah appears to capture a giant flash in the night sky but some people argue
that might just have been like a glare or like accidental overexposure or when
you like are taking a photo when it's snowing and
then a bit of snow is right in front of the flash and then it's
like that bit of snow i guess you're the film guy
yeah is that what happens i guess yeah oh no. Oh, no, I'm thinking aliens.
It was an alien.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, when you, like, try and take a photo in the snow,
and an alien cuts out your tongue and takes your eyes
and puts your face down in the snow.
Goddamn, I hate when that happens.
Yes, it's really annoying.
Thoughts so far?
Positive?
Otherwise?
It's a mysterious one.
I don't quite know what to make of it.
There's not really any explanations that I can see as of now.
What are your thoughts?
Yeah, that's what I kind of think is, yeah, like to put yourself in the shoes of the investigator in this case.
Yeah.
That's a pretty wild experience or the students that that uh discovered them i don't
know what you would make of that what was their last meal you said they they died recently after
their last meal wasn't that bread they broke was it no that was like a couple weeks previous okay
at that point they've been they've been out for a long time i think um i think they brought food
with them and they'd also kind of foraged food so there you go crazy berries crazy
berries that's my hypothesis crazy berries or some goddamn like insane little rabbit and they caught
the little mad hatter and ate him and you think it was an alice in wonderland situation yeah
absolutely i think igor's freaking real name was I yeah, and he was late for an important date and he ate the rabbit
I lost his tongue. I need prison
Alice in Wonderland, can you eat meat? That's so bad that you go insane and take all your clothes off. Oh
That's a hard Google search isn't it? What I'll just google girl clothes off. Okay, Let's just see what happens there
Girl off
It's porn
It's a lot of porn
I can't say I didn't want it to happen
You know what?
We'll go page two, just check
Just see what's happening
I'll add Russian
Yeah, actually link me that
And we can like cross analysis this
I'll move straight to page 35
And then we'll try
to meet in the middle uh okay okay well i'm sending you that one there uh-huh i'm gonna add
i know it was cold but i'm gonna put hot in there and naked yeah just because they were naked
whenever they were students i'm gonna put students yeah but like co-eds or something like that yeah
yeah okay co-eds hot student naked russian that should get
us to this case i i would imagine i'm gonna throw jizz in there just to see what comes up in case
some sort of sex accident you know how things can get hot and heavy in the is that if everyone's in
a tent together you go up there to the woods you have a little tent orgy no i don't know where i'm
going with that that doesn't mean you go insane and lose a tongue. This is a good point to bring this up. One man, Donnie Eichar, who
investigated this case and made a documentary about it, he argued that there may have been a
romantic encounter that left some of them only partially clothed, but also led to a violent dispute he said it's highly implausible by all
indications the group was largely harmonious and sexual tension was confined to platonic
flirtation and crushes i think he thinks there may have been a violent orgy right okay that maybe like
the seven dudes got a bit competitive over the two ladies right that seems like reaching to
me i don't think that seems like reaching to you not the orange orbs in the sky i think aliens is
more likely than horny students right personally but just in case we'll continue with the horny
student searching right right right let's absolutely not Thrown off that As much as I want to
Google the orbs thing
The aliens orb thing
I think we're getting
Somewhere at the minute
With the
With the porn angle
With the student angle
Yeah
I think it's worth
Investigating
With the porn hub angle
I mean the
Crystallinks.com
Crystallinks
Research
Yeah
Crystallinks.com
Duh
Links
Crystallinks.com. Links, crystallinks.com.
Com.
Dot com.
Dot com.
Shit.
Let me take a five, actually.
I stand up clearly with an erection.
Weirdly bent over.
I'll be a minute.
Just need to think about snowman and my brother again.
Oh, it's turning into a rage erection
The worst kind
I think that's plausible
Do you?
Well I know so that's a condition of hypothermia
Isn't it?
Like the body is convinced
It's not
You know when the body is exposed
To extreme temperatures
And you need to get it on?
When your body goes into a shock and it believes you're dying, so it sends you into a-
One last lay before-
Not so much fight or flight, but fight or f***.
What a terrible, terrible phrase.
An old, old grandpa telling you about his past.
He's like, it's one of those fatter f***ing scenarios.
It's like, grandpa, that is not the phrase.
What?
Um, no, hypothermia, the body starts to believe that it's actually the opposite and you become incredibly warm.
And it's a sign of hypothermia if you actually start taking off layers of clothes.
I'm glad you brought this up so we can get off the whole porn angle.
Apparently that's called paradoxical undressing. I didn't know this technical term for that.
That's also a porn site.
Also, the $60 tier of our Patreon is known as Paranormal Undressing.
You can see us in the nude, very lewd, and brood-ing.
in the nude, very lewd, and brood-ing.
150 is fight or f***.
You can choose to fight or f*** one of us.
Your choice.
It's like f***, marry, kill, but just two of those things.
Fortunately, every contributor has picked to fight me.
And actually, they're pretty big dudes.
They're really strong.
I'm actually terrified.
Kick my ass.
I'm begging for a f***.
No one wants to do it because I look like shit because I've been beaten so bad.
It's a cycle.
Trying to fob them off with this paranormal life merch, but they're actually pretty dead set on the fight. International Science Times posited that the hikers' deaths were caused by hypothermia,
which can induce a behavior known as paradoxical undressing,
in which the hypothermic subjects remove their clothes in response to perceived feelings of burning warmth.
It is totally accepted that six of the nine hikers died of hypothermia.
accepted that six of the nine hikers died of hypothermia part of the problem with that theory is that several in the group appear to have actually acquired additional clothing from
their friends who had already died which suggests they were sound enough mind to like try and warm
up yeah um so it doesn't really explain the whole nine hikers dying of undressing.
Were the ones that got the clothes taken off them the ones that were all smashed up?
I don't believe so.
I believe the ones that were smashed up were the ones that were trying to get back to camp.
I believe the ones that were undressed and their friends had taken their clothes were the ones that were found buried.
Right.
And this is the crazy thing with this case is dive into it now, but there's like a bunch of theories about what could have happened.
And the problem is none of them satisfy.
So, for example, lots of people have hypothesized they're in a snowy mountain.
They're camped on the side of a mountain.
They've been crushed.
Some of them are buried under snow.
It's an avalanche.
Gotcha. Case closed. Boom. the side of a mountain they've been crushed some of them are buried under snow it's an avalanche gotcha case closed boom reporters on the site of the incident said that the mountain did not show
any obvious signs of an avalanche having taken place it would have left certain patterns of
debris distributed over a wide area the bodies found within 10 days of the event were covered
with a very shallow layer of snow
and there was only a couple of the party
covered in a deep layer of snow.
Over 100 expeditions to the region
have been held since the incident
and none of them have ever reported conditions
that might create an avalanche.
And thankfully, that more or less concludes
the shitty, boring theories of what could have happened.
And I will dive into the shit-hot sexy theories.
Right, it's good to get those ones out of the way. We've got to cover all angles.
One theory is that there was a wind travelling through the mountains that created what's known as a Kármán vortex,
which can produce infrasound capable of
inducing panic attacks in humans. Wow is that real? So they're suggesting that it got so
windy they went insane. Right. Yeah this guy Donnie Eichardt and he suggests that
it could have caused physical discomfort and mental distress and might have
caused them in a panic to run out of the tent and freak out maybe
if it happened to one or two of them the others maybe ran out to try and get them back and then
in the blizzard couldn't find their way back that's an all right theory they're pretty stretchy
i mean me you me kid we grew up in the windy city northern ireland um that's what they call it? Yeah. It's the borderline, the windiest place on earth.
That's fair.
And I don't recall being that mad as a child.
Maybe it was the wrong frequency of wind.
That's true.
It was quite low, low wind.
Was that why I was always shitting myself?
It was very much a brown noise wind.
Yeah.
I know.
We had that nice like sea breeze.
Maybe if you're in like a mountain pass
it's just sounds like hyenas everywhere at all times very much an axl rose s kyle
welcome to the mountains please take off your clothes
please please i want to take your eyes Please take off your clothes! Please, please!
I wanna take your eyes!
It's just a theory.
We're testing all the theories. It's true. You know, extraordinary
claims requires extraordinary evidence. Some people
believe, this one's a little bit more believable to me,
that there was some kind of military accident.
There seemed to be records of
parachute mines being tested by the Russian military in the areas surrounding this mountain
at the time that they were there. Apparently parachute mines detonate a meter or two before
they hit the ground and would maybe produce similar damage to that experienced by the hikers.
Uh sort of heavy internal damage with very little external trauma. This might have given rise to the orbs that were in the sky.
Yeah, I guess.
It could have been some sort of aircraft or the actual bombs dropping.
I guess that makes a bit more sense because if that was true,
it would explain the lights and the government being so weird about the event.
Because they obviously don't want to take blame for the death of these people yeah they probably thought it was like a deserted area so again drop some
bombs on death mountain and as i say we've got kind of the plausible ones um out of the way
to make room for really the only real conclusion to what has happened what i think is the most
believable theory theory it really ties
together all of the loose ends really explains all of the little intricacies
of how each victim died I'm very excited about this Sasquatch you were telling me
that that explains so little the blunt force trauma inflicted upon Igor and his compatriots
was not that of a
yeti beating down upon
them with mighty force. Mighty
radioactive paws.
You're telling me it wasn't a radioactive
yeti? That's a genuine theory?
Absolutely it is. Some sort of
ice beast? Absolutely.
What else would live on Dead Mountain
in the outback of the frozen Siberian tundra than a Sasquatch?
Wolves? A bear? Real creatures?
You look confused.
I've never heard of radioactive wolves in my life.
Now a radioactive Sasquatch on the other hand... Can you sell me on it? If you got any like what's their argument towards sassy?
Gut feeling.
I don't need evidence where I'm going.
I cock a magnum.
To Siberia.
Get in the Land Rover. It's a skateboard.
I said, get in.
The scientist that mentioned the blunt force trauma
to some of the students
matched that of a car crash.
Right.
No wolf is doing that.
No bear is doing that.
A bear could.
Only a Sasquatch
could deal those kind of blows. A bear, absolutely a bear could doing that. A bear could? Only a Sasquatch could deal those kind of blows.
A bear, absolutely a bear could do that.
You see what they did to Leo?
They wrecked him.
That's true, but what people don't realize is
Leonardo DiCaprio is a very, very small man.
Not only in mind and spirit, but also in stature.
He's like a, I think I googled this prior to uh researching this case
he's a strong four foot five or six the technical term is hobbit yeah um he is actually on a mission
with a ring um and in that movie he met a bear and was destroyed by the bear he was actually uh
struck from the casting of lord of the rings for being too hobbit like yeah they
couldn't really match up the other normal humans with leonardo's truly hobbit like features it
would have been a whole movie to himself really it would have been two layers of force perspective
yeah i mean leo would have had to essentially been standing on the lens of the camera to make him look like the same size as the actors he is
borderline a pixel leo he is so small industry insiders actually have let slip on um reddit
that on the filming of the great gatsby he had a freaking gillette sponsorship to keep his
freaking toes from not overgrowing into a bush of hobbit-like foot hair.
He's an actual hobbit.
I would go bare before Sasquatch, personally.
Uh-huh.
But if you have some fresh evidence,
some fresh, no-preserved evidence
to deliver upon me right now,
I'm ready.
I'm willing. I'm willing.
Time is passing.
I'm filibustering.
Do you know what that word means?
It means I sit here until I'm right.
Okay, I will concede for the sake of
the narrative of this story
that maybe the Yeti isn't the number one most plausible excuse
for what's happened here.
But listen, I'm done explaining what's happened here.
I presented you with quite enough evidence about what's happened.
I think you need to come to your own conclusions.
What do you make of this case?
It's interesting.
It's a mysterious one.
It surely is.
I'm not ready to just doubt this one right off
the bat that's what i'm thinking um because it's so damn weird and weirdly down to earth
yeah as well it's very highly documented i mean this one is like the russian state is like yeah
we don't know we're like your guess is as good as i don't know we don't know what happened to the
mines people people to the mines.
People.
People in the mines.
There were no mines.
What?
You said mines. Why did you say mines then?
I think maybe something weird with the Russian government
is probably the best explanation.
Especially, didn't you say it was cordoned off for like four months?
After the fact, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know how weird that is.
I'm not sure sure i can't make
my mind up really well they found everyone yeah and it was still cordoned off for four months
yeah but with was there activity or was it just like this might not be safe i mean we should have
known that the death mountain wasn't going to be the leisurely stroll that we thought it was going
to be i mean they for sure shouldn't have put it in the Lonely Planet Siberia guide.
That was rude of them.
Yeah, they're like, look, Death Mountain's closed down.
Just take the West Road to Puppy Hill.
All right, thank you very much.
Wait, that's where we test the...
Nukes.
Puppy Hill is nuked.
Puppies.
Screwed hundreds of feet into the air.
Yeah, I think You investigated this what are you thinking
What's your deal
Yeah it's very tough
I don't know why
I'm like so unconvinced about them
Coordinating it off
I feel like
On the one hand
To give them the benefit of the doubt ten nine people died
there in mysterious circumstances with radioactive activity and their tongues ripped out of their
heads so i kind of understand why they might have cordoned off because they're like let's just
prevent that ever happening again right it reminds me of um do you ever see the Tonguska impact?
No.
It was this crazy, I think it only reminds me because it happened in Siberia.
You can look it up.
It was basically like a modern meteor strike,
but it was because it was so out in the wilderness of Siberia
and no one lived for hundreds of miles.
No one saw it happen.
Yeah.
And then basically one day people just came
across forest just flattened for like hundreds of miles whoa and it was like a meteor impact just
destroyed this whole area in siberia and this isn't the last hundred years there's photographs
of it that's crazy and i don't know it just makes me think maybe there's some wild like cosmic explanation or like natural phenomenon
like the investigator said you know he didn't he didn't say it was a yeti he didn't say it was an
explosion he was like just some natural phenomenon has made this happen yeah wow but i don't know if
we have to start drawing conclusions i think for me the most likely thing yeah maybe military testing something that
caused them to just flee and panic and then get lost yeah i think i really want to say yes it's
paranormal right but i think it's not but you think there's something going on i don't know
if it was a yeti i don't know if it was like some sort of paranormal haunting.
I think something we don't understand yet happened.
I don't think it was just a landmine.
I don't think it was just an avalanche.
Those things, like the evidence is kind of like higgledy-piggledy.
Right.
I think we don't know what it is yet.
For that reason, it's unexplained
it's paranormal to me that's a yes that's a yes nice one we finally got a yes to break our streak
uh i'm going no cool i think it was a weird sex party that went south real fast when they tried
to go south uh real i think um these people were freaks most likely really rude there is
memorials all over siberia for these nine students i think uh something weird happened up there with
them or some of them some of them tried to flee some of them froze to death some of them got their
heads caved in uh the orange lights that's a little harder to explain and i don't
know if i can i think that's paranormal but i don't see enough evidence here to suggest what
happened to these people being paranormal more than fair so you're saying no you traitorous
piece of shit i will freeze you so cold anyway let's get this over with so we can continue the
uh right the search just in case
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