This Paranormal Life - #065 Did a Doppelgänger Kill The Queen Of England?

Episode Date: June 12, 2018

What if we told you the Queen of England once saw her own Doppelgänger right before she died? And what if this wasn’t a once off? It also happened to a Russian Empress, and a US President? Today we... discuss the paranormal harbingers of doom: the Doppelgänger.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Are social media bots the first signs of Skynet's takeover? And we know the internet works via magic, but is it dark magic? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Are you making this up? I am. Welcome back to This Paranormal Life. This is the podcast where every week we dissect a different paranormal tale, claim, or case and get to the bottom of whether it is true or whether it is false.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Absolutely. Today you are joined by, don't the f***ing speak over me, I swear to God, dude. I am on the edge of my seat, fist clenched. Do not push me. I've had a really hard week, dude. Really? I don't know if you can see this vein just in the top of my head but um it's really it's like pulsating i thought i mean it granted it burst
Starting point is 00:00:52 by lunchtime today but i stuck a couple plasters on i can see the hello kitty bandages right there yeah you should see industrial grade yeah uh hopefully it keeps for this episode i mean i would still go see a doctor. I've got a pretty stressful episode for us, so I don't know if it will. Because it's not the only vein. I want the audience to know that. It's not the only vein.
Starting point is 00:01:12 I've heard of varicose vein. I'm a varicose human. You look like a giant erect penis. I thought I would take steroids to get swole. No one told me I have to cycle that shit. I've been on it for eight years. So you just took the steroids? You didn't do any of the exercise? I didn't work out. I didn't eat right. Wow, that is so bad. I would explain the anger though.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So today we're talking about all the things that piss me off about the paranormal. Anyway, back to the task at hand. Today you're joined by your two most angry paranormal investigators in the whole wide world. I'm actually pretty chill today. This is Rory F***ing Bars over here. And this guy's Kit Greer. How you doing today, Rory? I'm doing great.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I've had a good day. I'm pretty chill. I'm not taking any steroids. You can test my piss, but that's going to piss cold, not hot, all right? I don't take performance enhancing drugs, all right? I just take regular drugs. The old-fashioned ones. You know, they didn't... Whenever Keith Richards and goddamn Mick Jagger got up on stage and rocked it at Woodstock,
Starting point is 00:02:10 no one's called those performance-enhancing drugs. You know what they call that? Cocaina. They called it a good goddamn time. This is me on trial for multiple substance abuse after the Tour de France. This is you defending Lance Armstrong. Yeah. Hand on Bible. They haven't even asked you a question yet yeah they're like so uh how would you describe your relationship
Starting point is 00:02:32 with lance armstrong i'm sorry jimmy hendrix smoked weed live on stage and you guys aren't saying shit about that listen we're getting seriously sidetracked here um the steroids are kicking in i i took a double dose today because i know we had a big podcast tonight so we'll just jump right in um for the case today i gotta thank uh devin maxwell for the case this one came from the paranormal nation they emailed this in i apologize uh devin apparently we got their pronoun wrong so uh whenever we shouted them out before i apologize for that but this case is a doozy thanks for sending that in as always we're just gonna dive right in it's the late 1700s in the russian empire and catherine the great the reigning empress at that time is sound asleep
Starting point is 00:03:15 in bed when a couple of her servants the queen's got to sleep what what you're interrupting already what is it just finish the thought everyone sleeps it's just a fun little thing to note like even the president has to shit isn't that just like a cool little thing to think about yeah they said they do say that like yeah even the queen james yeah it has to wipe his butt as well like we're all human even i you know have to brush my teeth you know lebron the queen me leaders in our fields right exactly yeah my fields fields specifically yeah i'm a farmer a good one at it i don't want to get bugged down but it also doesn't look like you've brushed your teeth right well that was a weird thing to sometimes like once a
Starting point is 00:03:55 month maybe right just to like keep it fresh oh god oh god i mean i didn't use toothpaste the last time so i guess the last time I used toothpaste was probably 2014, maybe. Most of the time I just rinse with, I've got a cool can of soda here. So I just rinse with that once every two to four days. The queen was asleep. Sorry, the empress was asleep. When a couple of her servants woke her up, they were confused. They said, oh, you're're here but we've just seen you
Starting point is 00:04:25 walk into the throne room with our own eyes what what are you talking about i've been asleep i just woke up this is mental what you're saying uh she jumps out of bed and she joins them and goes into the throne room escorted by her guards when they reach the room she cannot believe her own eyes there she is sitting calmly on the throne looking right back at her she she composes herself and orders the guards shoot this imposter all at once the guns crack smoke billows out and when it clears the throne is empty there's no one there no one knows what happened that night all that was left after the smoke cleared was the lifeless body of an old woman her auntie how did they know which one to shoot which is the real one we're getting
Starting point is 00:05:14 we're having some prestige level trickery going on it's very true yeah i guess the one the guards didn't mind they're just getting paid by the hour you know right it was like the first one that said shoot they were that was good enough for them the other one was actually halfway into saying shoot but uh they don't care they were closer to the other girl so they just fired they're like i got a thing tonight i want to clock off early let's just get this over with absolutely and i can respect that yeah no one knows what happens only that a couple of months later catherine the great died suddenly of a stroke that's right folks i've just one question for you what do you know about doppelgangers wow i assume
Starting point is 00:05:53 this is what we're the territory we're going to be adventuring into no this is off record actually all right we haven't started recording yet i was wondering why you hit stop and said doppelgangers and then started again. Yeah, no, no, no. We've got a completely different podcast ahead. I actually don't know a lot. I mean, I know what they are. I don't know a lot about the lore, the stories.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Well, explain for the folks at home who... I didn't realize there was going to be a follow-up question. You said you knew what a doppelganger was. That's the one. Yeah, the doppelgangers. Just give a brief rundown of like in a sentence snappy sentence what it would be really snappy stop me if i'm wrong right but i believe the doppel the doppelganger yeah was a limited release right double cheeseburger really no okay wrong yeah
Starting point is 00:06:39 it wasn't a burger king no start over okay start over that was my one idea i am fresh out like burger king were the riots of 1983 so you thought that um after after talking about a 17th century um yeah i was wondering how that was empress i was wondering how i thought it was something to do with like a double cheeseburger yeah i didn't i thought like maybe they killed her they shot they shot a doppelganger in her throne i really like i was wondering how you were going to reel this one in because that was a little strange start to me. I was like, how's he going to get the Burger King from this one?
Starting point is 00:07:09 That's Kit Greer for you though, throwing his curveballs. But I didn't even tell you what it was in the beginning, so I just started with the story about Russia and then you just... Where did you get it from? It might be about burgers or Burger King. The doppelganger.
Starting point is 00:07:19 The limited edition burger. I said that after the story. Right, you did, didn't you? Yeah, I did. I guess I just had a hunch. So she's the empress married to the Burger King. Are you hungry? Where does the, yeah, I'm starving.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I'm really glad you brought it up. Thank God you asked. Where do you want to go? McDonald's, please. I f***ing hate Burger King. Could you imagine if we ended up going to Burger King for, uh, to like order some food and there's like a guy behind the desk that looks just like me, and I'm like, doppelganger!
Starting point is 00:07:48 So you know what it means! So you knew the whole time. If he's in a Burger King, sure! He's like, what'll it be, gentlemen? We'll take the doppelburger extra gangers. The doppelcheese ganger. So for those who maybe don't know exactly what a doppelganger is doppelganger in popular usage i mean the german translates to double goer as in like double walker someone
Starting point is 00:08:12 you come across that looks exactly like you in every way that is your doppelganger okay um however what we're talking about today is something more paranormal than just mere coincidence of two people that look alike sure that's a genetic roll of the dice. Exactly. Topplegangers that appear to come out of nowhere have mysterious intentions and fatal consequences. Although the story of Catherine the Great sounds totally unbelievable, it is only one of many such stories throughout history. Also in the 1700s, we now jump to Germany,
Starting point is 00:08:44 where famous writer and statesman Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was taking a footpath by horse after leaving his friend Frederica's house. When ahead of him in the path a man on a horse was coming closer. Just like Catherine the Great he couldn't believe his own eyes as he watched himself ride by oh my except in different clothes he thought about it for a while but eventually he forgot i guess you just you're like my eyes are playing tricks on me kind of thing if you're going down a street on the back of a horse and as you look up you make eye contact with yourself and he's grinning and he goes guten. And he winks and licks his lips.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's definitely, yeah, that's not just a roll of the dice. That's strange. I don't know what I would do. I'd maybe try and fight myself. Just leap out of the horse and carriage? Yeah. Like not missing a beat? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Even if he looks remotely like me. Blonde hair, I'll take him. You just like ufc style just laying elbows into this guy's cranium and like you're four or five deep before you realize that he really doesn't look that much like you nothing absolutely nothing like it no um it was an elderly man he was dead by the time i jumped at him yeah that heart attack actually then the broken spine. So, you know, thought about it for a while, eventually forgot. Eight years later, he's riding to Frederica's house once again. He was just riding along daydreaming, looked ahead and couldn't be. He was riding the other way, wearing the same clothes that he had worn all those years ago.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And today, wearing the same clothes he had seen the doppelganger wearing eight years ago no he had swapped places some kind of looper time warp style that's insane i don't really have anything to say about that this is just another creepy example of a paranormal tale well so what would you do if you if this happened to you you're walking down the street and you bump into yourself. If I was going down the street on horseback or not and I saw myself, I mean, I guess I would try a pickup line. I mean, you know what you like. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, so I would be like, do you like fish restaurants?
Starting point is 00:11:01 How do you feel about getting out of this place and going to a hitting a bar sorry that is your chat up i don't know a nice fish restaurant all right what if let me just try again try again new hypothetical you like museums no right you meet a girl at a bar i just want to know what your chat up line is right you meet a girl at a bar but i can't i'm not interested if it's like just a random girl. The hypothetical was way more interesting. Okay. All right. Fine.
Starting point is 00:11:26 So I met, I meet me at a bar. You meet you at a bar. So I guess I would walk up. I might like, so let's see. You're getting really stressed. My vein is,
Starting point is 00:11:38 I can feel it. The vein is back. I can feel it. Do you like go-karting? No. Fuck. No, no one likes that shit.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Some people do. don't be so hard on yourself that was a weird thing to be mad about yeah yeah yeah no fine um how do you feel about like uh politics or is that okay that was an all right one to start the most attractive one to start with you were sick in your mouth a little bit there that's a big turn off so what if what if your clone says right do you want to come home with me? Can you play that cool at least? I think he just pissed my pants. I'll be honest with you right now. This is too much.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Can we stop this role play? Well, if Johann Wolfgang von Goethe isn't a reliable enough source for you, not many know that Abraham Lincoln himself witnessed his own doppelganger. Wow. It's 1860. America. He was elected's 1860. America. He was elected president in November that year. And one day he sat down in front of his mirror only to see two faces, two apes looking back at him.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Two hats? I think he was without the hat at this moment. Wait, he could take that off? Yeah. I think he probably had some sort of like Star Wars-esque cyborg you know that's what i assumed coverage you took it he took it off and it was like vader without the helmets i think like we haven't got to that case on the podcast yet but obviously we're gonna cover cyborg abe and yeah and and the the bogus civil war yeah that was uh aborgham lincoln the most high-tech racist borg ever created that
Starting point is 00:13:07 actually malfunctioned and freed the slaves not a lot of people know the actual story of what happened yeah some like futuristic nazis sent him back in time and well just about did the last thing they thought he would uh yeah we'll get to that in another time. But at this moment, he didn't have his hat on, but he sees two faces nonetheless. They were both him, but the second one was paler, older, and looked very, very sickly. He looked away quickly and looked back, but it was still there. In fact, this wasn't just his eyes playing tricks on him. He called over his wife, Mary, who was distraught. She saw it as well?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah. Wow. Apparently, the Lincolns were somewhat open-minded about the paranormal and pretty superstitious she knew that this was not good she believed that what it meant was that he wasn't gonna last two terms i'm sorry genius mary thought him seeing another version of himself as an old dying man was a bad thing. Bearing in mind, he'd only been elected just like that month or the month previous. Talk about the deep end. Just like, here are the keys to the White House. Here's your presidential card for scanning through.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Here is a stake and a crucifix just in case you need to kill yourself. Right. Why? What? It'll make sense, Mr. President. Who are you? I thought you were one of my aides. Who was that?
Starting point is 00:14:31 Someone close the gates. Get him. Yeah, thank you. Bring him back. He's like, why do I need any of this stuff? And it's like, oh, you'll understand soon, Mr. President. Walks out of the shadows. It's him very soon yeah so she believed that the healthy abe was first term abe and the sickly pale abe was second term abe right he may get that second term but wouldn't last it at what
Starting point is 00:15:00 cost it turned out she was right every now and then, Abe would sit down and try and catch his doppelganger again. The tale goes that he saw it once more, but never again after that. Maybe it had given its warning already. Immediate thoughts, positive or otherwise, about some of these cases. These very high-profile cases, by the way. The Empress of Russia, Abraham Lincoln. Yeah, these are pretty notable figures to be having these experiences. It makes sense with the Abraham Lincoln one, because I guess the point was, if this did happen, the doppelganger was trying to show him the future or warn him about something.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah. I'm not necessarily sure what the dude on the horse was trying to show himself eight years later. Yeah, certainly. Like, I haven't structured these examples too heavily. So whilst with Catherine, the empress, and with Abraham Lincoln, they met untimely deaths. With Johan, from what I can gather, nothing much happened to him, lived a long life. So there's definitely the camp of some of these experiences are good amount of them seem to be uh omens right dark forces and then on the other hand
Starting point is 00:16:12 there's kind of this just weird paranormal uh entity or it almost seems like a rip in the space-time fabric or something some weird scientific yeah episode two very different conclusions or explanations well the stories just go on and on and we do start to see more of this theme developing the doppelganger visits usually anticipate grave news illness or death in one disturbing tale a famous author mary shelly her her husband Percy Shelley, claimed several times in his life to have seen his doppelganger. This culminated in one day he saw his doppelganger walking by his beach house. I think it was in Italy. And he saw it outside. So he followed it down to the beach and like on the water's edge, it pointed out to the ocean and then disappeared.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Jesus. Months later, Percy died at sea while sailing oh my god really very young man i think he was 29 again in the early 1600s queen elizabeth the first another extremely high profile character became very depressed after a number of her friends died she struggled a lot around this time her doppelganger was taking the piss out of her constantly making making mocking faces. And one night as she entered her quarters, she saw herself lying on her bed, completely motionless. She looked dead, basically pale, thin and lifeless. I'm piecing the F out. I see my dead self on a bed. I am going to Ibiza. I'm leaving the country. I'm getting on a plane. I'm grabbing my molly.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I am going on Skyscanner, booking the most expensive flight to Ibiza. Because you know where my doppelganger won't be? In a club he can't afford to get into. And that is where I will be. I will sneak in the back if needs be. I will party my ass off to escape my demons. If I can barely afford a bottle of Cristal, then all the funds are gone. There's none left for him.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Exactly. He won't be popping bottles, you know, to stunt on models in the VIP lounge. Exactly. Because I've spent all our cash. Yeah, good luck buying that Grey Goose gobble git. Because I've bought it all. I've drunk it all. And I actually feel pretty ill. Yeah, she saw her own doppelganger lying there pale and lifeless she was extremely disturbed by this image
Starting point is 00:18:32 and it certainly did not help her mental health she died not long after this and while experts do speculate about the cause of death it remains a mystery because an autopsy was never allowed to be carried out so we don't know if she died from goddamn cancer or if she died from a paranormal curse brought on by doppelgangers what is a doppelganger gonna do they can't really do anything i think what we're seeing in these and kind of what the like the lore of the 17 1800s when a lot of these cases were taking place was that the doppelganger was an omen maybe a bit like the banshee we've talked about in the podcast before the mothman as well exactly a harbinger
Starting point is 00:19:11 of doom that turns up and shrieks in the night and tells you that something bad is going to happen a terrible way to warn anyone of anything by the way i mean i think there's a better way to get a message to someone than showing up as them in the middle of the night and just going, beware! And then disappearing into myth. There is a way. Leave them a note. Leave them a note and say, don't go to Ibiza. Maybe it does seem like a kind of aliens trying to make an elaborate plan how can we communicate with the humans if whenever we visit them they're too frightened they're too bewildered they just like run away maybe we need to pose as something familiar right right right and someone's like oh yeah like uh like a relative yeah relative. Someone's like, what's more familiar than themselves?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Their own genomes. This is going to be fine. This is going to be fine. We need to talk to Steve. We'll make another Steve. The problem is, out of all people in the world, listen, I don't know what's going on inside your head. I don't know what's going on inside anyone's head. Good.
Starting point is 00:20:22 I know what's going on. No one gets in this fortress, baby.qs on lockdown fort knox you know people wear tinfoil hats right i have tinfoil magneto's helmet are you trying to say you're an x-man to match magneto's cape okay magneto's breast seeing a theme magneto's groin protector. Magneto's jock strap. I don't know what's going on inside anyone's head, but in my head, I know what's going on. I know I'm a f***ing idiot.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Right. If I turn up, younger me turns up to warn present me, I'm not going to trust a thing he says. I know he's an idiot. He's made a bunch of mistakes in life. I like the idea of aliens trying to pick the most trustworthy person to pose as to deliver a message to the human race and they pick like uncle sam or something like
Starting point is 00:21:11 that yeah they just think like a relative will do and it's like aren't you that uncle that got arrested for shoplifting what no no i'm i'm uncle joe yeah creepy. Oh, crap. Give me one second. Beamed up. Beamed back down. Now I'm you. This is weird. Can you see why I wouldn't trust this? You just hear it from above the clouds. Trust him.
Starting point is 00:21:36 He looks pretty trustworthy to me. I'm starting to think we should have just implanted the knowledge straight into his brain using telekinesis. That's what I'm saying. This seems like way better ways than this doppelganger mechanic a phantom email that's what i would do remember we covered that in the vertical plane oh yeah we did didn't we yeah no one really believed it oh yeah lastly is the case of emily saggy a french teacher in latvia in the 1800s. When she arrived at this particular school in Latvia to work, she was something of a mystery already. She had moved around a lot, a bit of a spotty CV,
Starting point is 00:22:13 reports of 19 jobs in 16 years. Known for being two places at once. But they couldn't see why. She was incredibly professional, polite, honest. So they decided to give her a shot also i don't imagine the like standard of school teaching was that high in like 1700s latvia i have no idea yeah they probably just took what french speakers they could get i think so i mean if someone has what did you say 19 jobs in two years in 16 years okay thank god so it's like it's
Starting point is 00:22:42 probably staying for like nine months at a time in each job. I mean, at that point, she would just fake a CV. I think, yeah, I think so. Well, before long, they understood why. Just occasionally, her students would watch in horror as her doppelganger appeared like a ghost right beside her in the classroom. Emily could see nothing, but everyone else was terrified. And it became more and more problematic. Soon the doppelganger would be performing tasks of its own. Emily is teaching the class at the front of the room, and the ghostly figure would wander off and start gardening in the back.
Starting point is 00:23:15 The only sign of impact on Sugi was that she would become very physically drained after these paranormal incidents, and sometimes she would concede that she had been unconsciously thinking about the activities the doppelganger would perform okay so they would kind of go you're like a ghostly apparition of you was outside tending to flowers and she was she was like it was kind of drifting off while i was you know writing on the board just now so it seemed to be she'd come some kind of unconscious control over this thing. Right. Needless to say, the children were horrified and teachers started pulling kids out of this school pronto. Meeting the school had no choice but to fire her. I feel like that's a real Hail Mary on the student side of it.
Starting point is 00:23:58 You know, if you're pulled into like a meeting with the teachers and it's like, like, this is the third time this week. Like, why? Why haven't you handed in your assignments? It's like, well, to be honest with you, a ghostly apparition of our teacher is appearing and gardening the shit out of the bushes outside. It's distracting to say the least. And I think if 20 kids said that,
Starting point is 00:24:20 I mean, that's a pretty good excuse to not do your homework. That's very true. It would be kind of like if you're at school and the whole class doesn't do very well in the test. And the teachers are like, why didn't you do very well? It's like ghosts. You read that on a sheet of paper. You're like, I don't even know if you're real. You're like slapping their face.
Starting point is 00:24:47 real you're like slapping their face as soon as they you know hit the stop clock to start the 60 minute timer for exam bigfoot walked in took every student's test one by one chewed it up in front of them while staring them out you know because on this paranormal life you know we don't just give you advice about how to deal with the paranormal we also give you advice on how to deal with the paranormal. We also give you advice on how to deal with obstacles in real life. One of those, one of those obstacles is how to get out of doing your own work. Right. Because I, we both believe very firmly that institutionalized education is a lie. Yeah. It'll, you know, you walk into a science class. Uh, hello, my name is Mr. Johnson. Welcome to class one. Aliens aren't real real mr johnson is a liar and a hack every let me just break this down for some of you sheeple so most of us have gone through what 14 years of uh of education me 14 schools more like i burned on every last one of them they call me
Starting point is 00:25:42 the bunsen burner ironically i never sat down long enough call me the Bunsen burner. Ironically, I never sat down long enough to use a Bunsen burner. No. Let me break it down for you. Every one of your school teachers that you had was a CIA shell. Absolutely. Every single one.
Starting point is 00:25:56 They're all pocketing. You think, you think Mr. Johnson, look outside, you see that car he was driving and a nice Audi or something? Yeah. You think the government is paying out cash for him to teach children hell to the no no hell to the no where do you think he's getting that money from he's getting he's getting he's getting the cia is so
Starting point is 00:26:17 you know they're going listen you uh you don't you don't bring up uh you don't bring up ufos we'll send you a little kickback. Have a little tea. There's a lot of money there. And he's going, okay, this is like a nice little chunk of cash. Put that in the back pocket. Next day, NASA comes knocking. Hey, listen, we'd really appreciate it if you don't mention the round earth.
Starting point is 00:26:39 He's going, all right, how much are we talking? Another little chunk of change in the back pocket. We'll kick back there. Suddenly, he's got a laundry list of shit he's keeping on the DL. His back pocket is getting fatter and fatter. Exactly. He's not even not telling you shit. He's telling you other shit.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Exactly. Because he's getting paid to do it. The Grey's coming knocking. Hello? The Grey's coming knocking. Blaster opened the door. Hello? Mr. Johnson. And he's like, five grand up front before we even talk.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Tell them the greys all have six packs. Hell, your PE teacher is legit. He's training agents during school hours. He's seeing which one of these little bastards can do a somersault and the ones that can you're not gonna see him for long because they're picked off they're brought into private training schools and the next time you see him is at the end of a barrel of a gun remember steve you remember steve he was always top of the class i remember steve top of the class good guy you know he was always he was he was throwing the javelin the farthest high jumping the highest yeah steve you know he just kind of
Starting point is 00:27:50 you know didn't they say he went to one of those fancy schools around you know 16 years old said he went to live on a farm let me just tell you right now steve has probably killed multiple world leaders at this point he's back flipping through like imperial palaces in asia absolutely weirdly still using the javelin i think he's still wearing his like secondary school uniform that's how he gets in he sneaks in the back door he's 30 at this point but he poses as a school boy yeah we are so sidetracked let's rein this puppy back in so i wanted to do something a little bit more practical and i thought it would be cool to use a website twinstrangers.com to see if either of us let me rephrase that to see if you have an active doppelganger out there in the world
Starting point is 00:28:40 right now wow this is kind of scary yeah so i just took the liberty of like uh whenever you left for work this morning um i don't work i obviously just like you know scrounge off mostly um we also don't believe in institutionalized employment right exactly and hacks all of them we all know the illuminati is running the world and um anyone who plays their game is a fraud. Absolutely. All the higher ups are MIBs, which I think stands for Morally Incompetent Bastard. And that is the end of it. So, sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Just, you bring up stuff like that and I get fired up. I know, dude. Get fired up. Steroids are good, right? Oh, they're really good. Yeah, give me another hit, please. Give me another hit.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Oh, that's a good one. That's where that's where the biggest veins are though it's great it goes really right in there wow and this was for boxing what was this one for it makes your eyesight 30 30 i can see it now i can see air i can see the face of god yeah so when you left to work this morning i just like got your like national insurance number, driving license. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Pictures, all of that stuff. I'm okay with that. And I just uploaded it to this North Korean website that doesn't matter if it's North Korean, but they just match your face up with strangers around the world. That's cool. If you need any, I actually have,
Starting point is 00:30:00 I keep these in my briefcase at all times. I have a case of piss jars. Whoa, really? Every year from zero to now. Really? Your parents, whenever you were like two years old, they were taking piss samples? I insisted. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:13 Yeah, just for something like this. You were speaking English? Yeah. From like two months? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like nature instilled in my brain. I was peeing in mugs at zero and they thought, maybe we'll hang out on that pee. Good parents.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Good parents. Wow. They died. Yeah. Yeah. Or said they did. Then I found them. There's a lot to unpack in that.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I found them years later. Really? Hiding. Yeah, it was weird. It was a weird day for me. But it was fun. I picked up my piss canisters and it was like I never left. Did they leave to get away from, you know, something drastic, something life-threatening?
Starting point is 00:30:49 They said it was top secret. That's why they had to fake their deaths. They said it was top secret. I can't know about it, but take the piss and leave. Those were the last words I've actually heard from them. Take the piss and leave. And here we are today. But your brother actually went with them.
Starting point is 00:31:03 It was only you that got left, I understand. Only me. was not involved in the top secret uh mission that they were put onto right um i don't ask questions brother that's not for me that's good i do what they say i took the piss and i left here we are seven years later happy family so the piss do you want it are you good i think i'm good all right i'm gonna pack this bad boy up okay because it is getting warm okay it kind of seems to off gas a little it's like fuming a little way loads i actually like those are like colanders they're not even actual tubes so you have to be kept upright which it seems to be lying sideways yeah yeah yeah okay bit of a bit of a stain yeah a little bit of a how do you have you made it to this age with never neverilling them? There's so much piss, and it's all the years now combined. And I think people at home are probably imagining
Starting point is 00:31:49 like maybe 20 or 30 mils per sample. We're actually talking like a good half liter every year. That is a lot. It's almost all the piss that you pissed that year. That's a later thing to deal with now. Let's do the, what was this? Like a piss test or something? No, definitely not okay so the website did come back with one match for you um
Starting point is 00:32:11 you've done it already yes i've taken the liberty as i said of giving your information to the north koreans in return for this piece of evidence i don't know if this is uh as a paranormal doppelganger but i i uploaded this photo of you uh accurate i mean it's a photo of you so very accurate i guess then right uh and it it said this was an 81 match 81 oh okay rory's face has gone white. But am I the real Rory? You begin to wonder. I would agree that that is an 81% match. I thought it was weirdly bang on when it said 81%.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah. I was expecting, like, you've seen those Facebook face matching things. They're always garbage. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're like, this is what celebrity you look like. But the North Koreans, they've seen those Facebook face matching things. They're always garbage. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're like, this is what celebrity you look like. But the North Koreans, they've got some high-tech shit here. They have it down. I mean, it is, I mean, we could put this in the research notes.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I think we will. For this week's episode. I'm not going to lie. It's a guy with blonde hair, kind of swept to the side a bit, a little messier than mine. I don't, I think maybe he's got my eyes. Yeah, he definitely has a few of your features i'd say so if like movie style like standing in a movie style if they styled him to like wear all the same clothes as you hair the exact same way yeah all of that good luck that
Starting point is 00:33:38 could be ours go into this every morning yeah i don't walk out of bed like this. I'm sculpted like a god. The chances of you having a genetic doppelganger that has also signed up to twinstrangers.com are statistically very low. So it's almost kind of impressive that we find anyone who looks like you. It definitely points to the fact that there probably is someone out there that looks very, very much like you. Crazy. Definitely not paranormal. the fact that there probably is someone out there that looks very very much like you crazy definitely
Starting point is 00:34:06 not paranormal so we're left with only one other option to explore and here i have this uh huge electrical generator oh my god i'm just gonna set this up on the table here and look i i don't know much about science or electricity for that matter. Don't have the generator then. Or doppelgangers. But I have seen the Prestige. And I know that if I run enough voltage through you, we will create a doppelganger right here in the studio. So if complete 180, I am on board.
Starting point is 00:34:39 I love the Prestige. I think this could happen. So if you could just hold this in this hand. I can do that, Bowie, sir. And this in this one. And then if you just put this in between your teeth. What is this? If you want to keep your teeth, you better bite down on that.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Yeah. So, and then I'm just going to plug this. This is really uncomfortable. I'm going to actually, this thing is actually, this thing's pretty badass. I actually have to take out four sockets in the wall here, so. Okay. And I'm just going to crank it up here. All right, here you go.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I get all this turge. Oh, yeah. I get all this turge. It's singeing a little bit, but we've got to keep going. All right. It takes about 20 seconds, judging by the prestige. How long is it in? Don't mind the nosebleed.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Don't mind. It's very much natural, very much natural. I'm rocking out. Okay, and- Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Huh!
Starting point is 00:35:33 Huh! Huh! Yes, kids? Ah! I know what you're thinking. Who's the real Rory? F***! Didn't think that would go so well, did you?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Wha- Why do you you? Why did you know what was going to happen? I have to make a split second decision. Choose wisely. What would Rory, what would the real Rory know that the doppelganger Rory wouldn't know? Pick me. It's me. I'm the real Rory.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Ask me the question. I know it. I know it. Anything about you. Honestly, dude. What's my birthday? What's my birthday, dude? You know. You know. You chose wisely, kid. I'm left with doppelgangers completely naked. Smokiest Oliver's ever. Terminator style.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I'm glad you made the right choice thank god real rory good to have you back now that we've got rid of um of duplicate rory uh we can just crack on with the rest of the podcast sounds good some scientific basis for what's happening in these stories may be in this report published by Nature Journal of Science in 2006. They found that when they stimulated different regions of an epileptic person's brain to try and understand epilepsy triggers, they accidentally caused a woman to think that she was being watched by a shadowy figure. Not only that, but the figure was mimicking all of her movements. When she kneeled down on the ground and held her knees
Starting point is 00:37:05 she felt this shadowy creature's arms wrap around her she felt very very disturbed and she was freaked out by it but by talking to the scientist she knew it wasn't really happening but she still had to look around the room to make sure nothing was there that's trippy the researchers thought this could be evidence for why schizophrenics have imaginary visions but on the flip side could they have also flipped the switch in her brain that allowed her to see paranormal entities ah i like this i like this a lot you don't know it's chicken and the egg exactly the scientists know that that wasn't a real shadow beast it's true it's like the the thing you always see with ghosts it's like maybe the reason that you don't see ghosts is because you don't believe in ghosts.
Starting point is 00:37:48 It's true. The second you believe in the paranormal, uh-oh, there it is, socking you in the jaw and taking your wallet. That's right. Certainly, some paranormal investigators have put forward the idea that this could be some kind of time phase shift or alternate dimension jump. We do know that there are in all likelihood many other dimensions and perhaps even infinite alternative universes. But do we have any evidence that it's actually possible to traverse these in any way?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Some scientists do simply chalk this up to hallucinations that we know are caused simply by a lack of sleep and stress. Maybe that's why it's happening to such famous leaders like we've mentioned they're stressed af that makes sense we've gone through some high profile cases some obviously very trustworthy figures honest abe is one of them literally his nickname yeah that was good throwing him in there i mean there's only so much evidence we can provide for these anecdotal things i mean it's definitely weird that it all happened kind of in the 1700s and 1800s. I can't really find as many modern examples, but just right off the bat, what do you make of this case? I think it's a cool idea. I think it ties into some of the ideas we've talked about previously on this podcast. Like I mentioned, the mothman showing up as a
Starting point is 00:39:03 moth bird man, trying to warn people that bridges are going to collapse that nuclear factories are going to explode very true we're seeing something similar here but obviously this is taking uh taking the appearance of more of ghostly figures and apparitions yeah it is tough as you said this isn't exactly something that we can get a photo of. Yes. Because in some cases, it's kind of hit or miss whether even other people can see it. Yeah. Well, you said the teacher couldn't even see her own doppelganger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Which is, that doesn't make anything easier. No. And to be, you know, a naysayer, we also did just do a spontaneous doppelganger test where we hit an 81% match on a very, very select group of people who have signed up to that doppelganger test where we hit an 81 match on a very very select group of people who have signed up to that doppelganger test site when you're thinking about the billions of people in the world statistically yes there is probably someone out there that looks a lot like you yes but they're probably not a ghost right so you could kind of get into the weeds of is it more likely that statistically do these people have estranged identical twins? Right.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Or this is a ghostly apparition. Both are extremely unlikely, but which is more likely? I think that it's not just for nothing. It does seem to be that these incidences preclude some sort of horrible event, but we definitely do have to reckon with the fact that many of these people were stressed, overworked, maybe even mentally ill. And these are symptoms that we do know are symptoms of underslept people, people with schizophrenia, syphilis, you know, old diseases that people would have got back in the day. Also, a lot of these visions were, you know, seen late at night
Starting point is 00:40:52 in passing glances. This was not face-to-face high-fiving your own reflection. Right. And then a lot of the times. We've got a kind of messy picture here of a couple of different types of doppelganger apparition. But we do, as as on every podcast have to come down on a conclusion as to whether it is truly paranormal or not right right right in the case that i've presented of doppelgangers is this a yes or a no from you it's gonna be a no from me but it's going to be a no from me, but it's going to be a yes from other Rory. I kill you both. So just one yes this week. It's a no from me, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:41:38 I think that's more or less fair. I don't think we have enough evidence to say that this is paranormal. more or less fair i don't think we have enough evidence to say that this is paranormal um i myself have had lack of sleep and just hallucinations and i think it's possible that i could have seen my own self right but not paranormal not paranormal unfortunately not wow well it was a doozy and um thanks so much devon for sending that one in you'll find it was a twosie oh as the doppels were ganged i we've honestly been recording for a while. I could really go for a doppelganger. I'm so glad you said it, dude. I am famished.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I'm ready to go. I could eat two people's worth of food. That just about wraps it up for this podcast. If you have any of your own doppelganger incidents to send to us, please send them to thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. As always, you can get us on the socials. That's twitter.com forward slash this para life facebook.com forward slash this paranormal life and of course there's this secret
Starting point is 00:42:30 society where you know there's many many hundreds of people in there there may be a bunch of doppelgangers so i don't know if those numbers are accurate we really don't really don't know we don't know how many of them are yetis or cryptids of any kind so absolutely we'll have to do a census someday. But that's a good place to hang out and see some paranormal memes about the show. Hang out with people who also listen to the podcast. Absolutely. We also have a Patreon.
Starting point is 00:42:54 This is the best way to support the show. We don't run ads. The only way that we are supported for doing this show is through Patreon. And the great news is that if you support us on there, you actually get something for your support. A little bang for your buck, as they say. A little CIA kickback. For two bucks a month, you can get access to the show notes.
Starting point is 00:43:14 For example, here with this episode, I'm going to upload, let's say, the doppelganger that we found of Rory. Absolutely. As well as, you know, just the case notes to do with researching all about doppelgangers. JPEGs of every single one of my piss yards from 1 to 26. They will be there.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah, that's right. From five bucks, you can get into. I actually never cleaned that up. I'm so sorry. I just realized. Yeah. Sorry, you do the Patreon thing. I just realized there's piss everywhere.
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Starting point is 00:47:24 these tattoos i don't know if I'll keep them. I mean... That's not a tattoo. That's fire. You're on fire. Right. This isn't a tattoo. You seem okay.
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