This Paranormal Life - #068 Why Can't People Stay Away from This Booby-trapped Death Pit?

Episode Date: July 3, 2018

Why is everyone so obsessed with this strange hole on Oak Island? And why do people excavating it keep dying? Find out as Rory and Kit investigate.Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get a...ccess to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If I put lights on my shoes, will I run faster? Can you guys also hear the voices? Or is it just me? All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life! Hey, welcome back everyone to the podcast. You are listening to us on a Tuesday. T-T-T-Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:00:19 And we are so excited to be back here, bringing you the latest creepy paranormal tale, which we are about to investigate. I'm joined by best friend and war criminal Kit Greer. Didn't even mention paranormal investigator that time. War criminal is, that's still a pending title. My trial truly is pending. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:40 So we'll just hold off on that one. Paranormal investigator, four and a half. Best friend title? Pending. It's actually very much dependent hold off on that one. Paranormal Investigator, 4-9. Best friend title? Pending. It's actually very much dependent on the war criminal one because I don't want to be associated with anyone who isn't a war criminal. You've got to have common interests with your friends. So if you haven't listened to this podcast before,
Starting point is 00:00:58 basically every week we investigate a brand new paranormal tale, case, or beast that is either researched by us or submitted to us to then be researched by us. Do we do a lot of the goddamn work I'm just realizing here? Just realizing. There's a lot of piggybacking going on here. Exactly. We're getting sidetracked here.
Starting point is 00:01:18 One thing we like to do on this podcast is get straight to the point. Dive right into the episode. Or should I say the whole? Whoa. Let's go back to the point dive right into the episode or should i say the hole whoa let's go back to the year 1795 wow really dialing back the clock and we're on a little island called oak island why does that sound familiar uh where is this island roughly speaking is that a is that a spoiler or do you just not know? Spoiler, wow. Yeah, I can't tell you because that's a big spoiler.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Took you a long time to say spoiler. Definitely know it and don't want to spoil it. So we'll hang on to that little bit of info. A young boy named Daniel McGuinness is out on a walk. Okay. Fresh air, ocean breeze. Daniel McGuinness, this does sound like it's relatively close to home. I'm just gonna look it up.
Starting point is 00:02:07 So you don't know. Jesus Christ. The spoiler? No! I don't want to spoil the story for anyone. Not even me! Oak Island is an island in Canada. Okay. Well, he's out there. Nice walk. Ocean breeze, etc, etc. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:02:21 When he stumbles on a patch of sunken ground. Now, usually, you you know you see a little patch like this you wouldn't really be excited but oak island or should i call it treasure island has long been gonna have to substantiate that yeah i think it's pretty much stands for itself but it has long been famous for the legends that surround it legends claiming that there is treasure buried on the island. Never would have guessed. So of course young McGinnis grabs his
Starting point is 00:02:50 friends Anthony Vaughn and John Smith and collectively they begin digging down into the earth. Anthony Vaughn, John Vaughn and his brother Jovi. They started digging. Two feet down the group hit a large solid stone.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Kunk! Whoa. But that wasn't going to stop them. They removed the stone and kept digging, allegedly for another 30 feet. What? Look. How would you even climb out at that point?
Starting point is 00:03:18 How many opportunities do you get in your life to find buried treasure? How broke were they? That's what I want to know. Dude, you're set for life if you find buried treasure i guess do you think the people i will dig non-stop like a faithful dog if you promise me a single doubloon by the day's end i truly was born in the wrong era you know how people say ignorant people have their head in the sand i am full body in the sand swimming around in the liquid dirt looking for doubloons that's how ignorant i am problem yeah the problem is you
Starting point is 00:03:50 don't see any value in anything other than doubloons it's not just a figure of speech you can keep your dollars i borderline saw the monopoly man offer you 10 mil 10 mil doubloons no off then monopoly man go directly to jail do not pass go but do give me he runs you over in the big silver car look it's not my fault doubloons are the sexiest currency of all time what i don't want to get bought i could talk about how hot doubloons are for hours but that's i'm not asking you to please talk about it for five seconds all right anything uh one they're golden two okay they're hot i mean not really three pirates had them four pirates were hot okay five so it's by associations you're just pirates okay six johnny depp jolly roger okay i think you just like makes me seven a horny roger
Starting point is 00:04:47 what i would give to be the cabin boy you best start believing in pirate erotica kit because i'm in one they so they dug for 30 feet they dug and they dug through dirt and layers of oak logs before it just simply became too much So eventually this was just too big of a task for the three little boys to do. But their excavation did establish the site that would soon become known as the Money Pit. Whoa. Almost a decade later, a company named the Onslow company decided to take over the hall. Now these guys were men. Men with equipment. A goddamn dad squad. Right a borderline dad squad. You've got a bunch of men out there biceps bulging, dad knowledge in their brains and they dug another 60 feet into the ground before the shovel
Starting point is 00:05:44 hit something. They grabbed the object and lifted it out of the hole washing the dirt off to reveal a stone and upon washing away more of the dirt they realized that there was something carved into the stone oh the message was translated to reveal the words y'all got scammed. The little boys are sailing the high seas with thousands of doubloons, chewing on gold coins. It just says, more wood below. The message said,
Starting point is 00:06:21 I'm going to do a pirate voice for it because I assume pirates carved it. Please do. Forty feet below. Two million pounds lie buried. Not two million pounds like the money two million pounds of something yeah okay it's quite ambiguous actually because it obviously wasn't two million english pounds i mean which by the way in the 1700s would be approximately a trillion pounds right which i don't think you could bury under an island that's true unless it's the sand doubloons and all these people are just blind tiny doubloons uh now obviously discovering this the team are ecstatic they start digging down deeper deeper into the
Starting point is 00:06:59 hole they want to be the ones to be to find this treasure the treasure of oak island of course but suddenly with one deep push of the shovel water breaks through the soil and begins filling the entire hole whoa that's not good they can you imagine the panic can you imagine the panic yeah right because like what are they on 60 feet now and then just gush and 60 feet is a lot of feet it's so deep that's several stories the only way you're getting out at that point is by it. I mean, I don't know how physics works, but I imagine that if water starts filling the hole, then you just calmly, Legend of Zelda,
Starting point is 00:07:34 Legend of Shlelda style, rise to the top. Right. Yeah, or like, I assume they were smart enough to have a ladder in the hole. A 60-foot ladder? Yeah, or a series of ladders. A pulley system these are smart men these are dads they know what they're doing i think this is the first time a
Starting point is 00:07:49 dad's ever dug a hole hell no you're very high opinions of dads well news of the money pit and its treasure spread across the island like wildfire wow but a lot of the locals were worried because legend has it that before the Oak Island treasure can be found, seven people have to die. I knew it was going to be blood has to be spilled. The blood of an innocent, a virgin child. The blood of a dad has to be spilt. The most pure blood of all. Dad blood.
Starting point is 00:08:29 spilt the most pure blood of all dad blood atop the aztec pyramid laying down a dad with his dad bald decades of drinking lager and he's squealing writhing like a child to get away from getting cut the blood of the father the father and the holy father that's required to get the treasure of the island well the onslow company weren't giving up that easily obviously there's water sure but they use buckets pumps anything they could to drain the water out of the hole but no matter how much they drained the hole would always fill back up again wow Wow. Yeah. It's almost as if they're fighting against Mother Nature herself. Or a pirate curse. Right, sorry. This actually stopped progress for 45 years.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Holy shit. So it's not the same dads anymore. Presumably these dads are long gone. But a new group of dads have stepped in. They come in the form of the Truro Company. Where are their children they're clearly not raising their children every day they leave their wife and kids behind and every day their wives plead get a job we're starving they're like listen sweetheart all you
Starting point is 00:09:40 need is one win in the treasure hunting business and you're set for life. All I'm going to say is no judgment on these dads at all. You know, if I'm father and a son, he's 11 years old and you walk up to me on his 12th birthday and offer me the ultimatum of him or a single doubloon, I will follow you into the night. I will take that doubloon. Not even the doubloon. If you promise me somewhere in the park you've buried a doubloon i will leave my family i will leave everything all my responsibilities to dig till the day i die there's a lot of talk these days of the human brain is fully formed in your sort of early to mid 20s right bullshit your brain is fully formed when you are too old to order a happy meal about 12 years old the day that your kid eats a cheeseburger off the 99p menu he's a man he's a man he has hair
Starting point is 00:10:36 on his chest and he can goddamn dig for his own doubloons he can f**k off if he thinks he's getting in on this hole tell mcdonald McDonald's employee Greg to pour a shot of whiskey because your son just became a man. Give me a McFlurry, no Oreos. My boy needs to put hair on his chest. Give me an apple pie, extra hot. And a root beer, hold the root. Daff, we're like, literally go to any other restaurant,
Starting point is 00:11:01 you can have all of those things. They're like, yeah, whatever, that'll be 15 pounds flick them a doubloon keep the change who are you and why do you have a son well these truno workers had a way of using drills to grab the soil at the bottom of the pit and drag it up through the water this is 45 years years later, you know? Technology has advanced. They're coming at it with a fresh mind. One day, they used these drills to pull up a strange object from the bottom. The whole crew gathered around to see what it was. After cleaning the object,
Starting point is 00:11:37 they realized they had discovered three links from a chain made entirely of gold. Whoa. Right? the first big discovery can you imagine i mean this is 45 years after people have been digging for the first time in this hole and you discover the first piece of gold the legends are true the gold is here i i feel like the the more gold you find the more you gotta keep your voice down don't tell feel like the more gold you find, the more you've got to keep your voice down. Don't tell anyone about the goddamn gold. Oak Island is a small island.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Small island. You're going to the pub that night, maybe kicking back with a brewski, and they're going, hey, Joel, how's it going down the old money pit? And you know he's taking a piss on you. But you've rocked up, and you've somehow made that three-link chain
Starting point is 00:12:24 into a full golden chain around your neck. You've smelted it, Don. You've smelted it. You thinned it out. And now you have actual wrapper chains. You've got grills. And it was actually. And you're like, you can barely talk.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah. Nothing yet. Nothing yet, Joe. Nothing yet down the old pit. I guess we're wasting our time. Or you do that whole thing where you're like facing away from them. And it's like, oh, there's old crazy Max who's been digging away in the hole for years. And you're kind of looking away from them.
Starting point is 00:12:55 And you're like, yeah, I suppose. I guess you think it's all been a big waste of time. And they're all blinded by your golden grills. But the further they dug in the hole, the more and more water traps they would hit on the way down. That's awful. This sounds so arduous. It was like the money pit was booby trapped. There has been, in 50 years of discovery, there has been a lot of water and no money uh chains
Starting point is 00:13:28 three links that's not it that's barely even a chain if if one link is a link yeah two links is you cannot call two links a chain three links chain city baby three links bank does not wrap around even your goddamn wrist that's a bangle but i said it the value though in those chains is the promise that deeper down there is more than chains it's not money yet it could be it could be any money is very soggy at this point well anyway they gave up no the hole was too deep and it was too wet. I can't believe this took 50 years to come to that conclusion. How many dad's lives wasted? Right? Well people aren't gonna let this thing go. Not after the gold was discovered. F*** me. So we're flashing forward now to 1861, and a group called the Oak Island Association took over.
Starting point is 00:14:27 They thought, look, how about this, all right? We dig another shaft, and we could use that to drain the water from the money pit. This is like the shittiest, oldest version of Storage Hunters. You know there's someone in the town who like, he like leans against a tree right beside the hole flicking a doubloon and he waits for passers-by and he's like oh lordy what am i to do with all these doubloons not at all suspicious that he sounds like that
Starting point is 00:15:01 in nova scotia andia. Canadians walking by. Oh, gee, sir, where'd you get that shiny coin over there? Well, I got it on this here little patch of soil. Gee, why do you talk like that, mister? Well, when I see an irresistible plot of land, I just get taken aback. Now, say, you wouldn't be interested in purchasing of this here plot of land, would you? Well, it's... You look like a wise young man.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I'm sure it's too expensive for me and my brother here. Well, could you put a price on pirate fortunes? Pirate fortunes? Mm-hmm. I didn't know there was pirates this far north. The legend has it that there's gold buried in this here hole. And the most important part is no one has to die for you to get it. No one said anything about anything
Starting point is 00:15:45 anyone dying did i thought you mentioned no you didn't mention that no i just asked you where you got the money well that's a good thing no one has to die then doesn't it very scatterbrained sir slowly tucking a rifle back in his trousers halfway through the conversation he forgets what he's doing and starts eating the chocolate coin he said was in the balloon. Oh, the P is the ruse is up. Well played, sir. He's nervously dabbing his forehead like a southern gentleman, except it's like minus 20 in Nova Scotia. Oh, the other shaft.
Starting point is 00:16:21 They're going to dig another shaft. Okay. They're doing something different at least. It's not just dig the hole. Yeah. So, the workers are down there trying to find some way to drain this money pit. When suddenly, the floor of the new shaft starts to rumble beneath them. What?
Starting point is 00:16:37 The bottom of the shaft gave out and dropped 15 feet. People are falling. Ropes are pulled. everyone's panicking all of a sudden one of the water pumps above ground bursts and kills a worker me how is the water pressure it's like a goddamn super soaker times a million i don't yeah i assumed the pump just exploded okay the guy was like right beside there's some shrapnel just hit him right in the skull. Just evaporated. Like red mist.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Just like gone. And then a voice from the clouds. The first has been claimed. And a single doubloon falls from the sky. And then they're like, wait, does that mean there's only going to be seven doubloons yes my fortune of jack the shit pirate imagine the uh the voice of god was a pirate voice imagine how worried you would be you know you're like a very faithful god-fearing person you're praying on your knees every night, you know, for the health of you and your family and your loved ones.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And then the day that you hear back from the big guy upstairs. The first thing you hear is, YAHAR! Oh, Christ! Oh my God. Or, you know, like when you're dying, they have like the death carriage that comes along. Life is fading away from you.
Starting point is 00:18:04 You're slipping into death. dying they have like the death carriage that like comes along life is fading away from you you're slipping into death and on the horizon you just see the jolly roger flying through the clouds you're like oh shit like i can't believe i have anywhere near enough treasure to barter with this god i did not live my life according to the pirate code well obviously after this the oak island association stopped their expedition everyone obviously wants this treasure but at what cost the rumors of the oak island curse begin spreading once more would you keep going no i never would have set foot in the hole to begin with. I am not an idiot or a dad.
Starting point is 00:18:49 You're missing out on a goddamn fortune here, Molyneux. I'm starting to think whenever you crank out a child, you just lose all mental faculties and you start, you know, wishing on goddamn, wishing wells full of money. Well, look, you know, nowadays, when men reach a certain age, you get your midlife crisis.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And nowadays, you go buy a sports car, you know, when men reach a certain age you get your midlife crisis yeah and nowadays you go buy a sports car you know you get a crazy haircut you go like bungee jumping off a bridge yeah in the olden days all you could do was become a treasure hunter it's true you just have to become a pirate well it turns out one death isn't enough to stop people from going after this goddamn treasure there's a reason they call it the money pit either there's money in the pit or people sink their money into the pit i'm glad you've acknowledged that yeah well a new group take over and they're they're obviously coming in like you cowards one death is gonna freak you out it's like you found gold and you're
Starting point is 00:19:41 gonna back off now like he's like saying this as he's putting on his scuba diving kit. He is you. I am ready to die for a single doubloon. Yeah. Two weeks from now, you're going to be kissing my golden ass. And then like back flips into the hole. Doesn't realize the hole's been drained. Snaps his neck on the floor.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Falls 60 feet. Has like a long time to think about what he just did. Oh! Then the voice from above. The second death has been claimed. Flicks a coin into the pit. Another doubloon
Starting point is 00:20:20 from Greg the Shkut. By the way. Another life has been claimed well because i guess like you know like good pirates when they they die they leave behind like fortunes okay but i guess this guy ruled the money pit was the shittest pirate ever he only had seven doubloons you know there's like red beard the pirate and black beard the pirate this is neckbeard the pirate the cheapest and shittest pirate on all the seven seas every time he docks his pirates of the caribbean style his boat is just sinking as he like approaches the harbor steps foot on the docks tips his fedora i'm neckbeard the pirates the only pirate to ever vape vape the
Starting point is 00:21:10 seven seas the new group arrive and they begin digging and draining the hole just like everyone else deeper and deeper and one day one of the workers named maynard kaiser was being lifted to the surface when his rope became loose from the pulley and sent him plummeting back down into the hole to his death. He deserved it.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I'm saying it right now. He deserved it. Should have known better. This is death number two. The legend says there needs to be seven deaths before the treasure can be claimed. It's a bad deal.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It is a bad deal. Bad deal. And then if you are, like, if you're the workman, show up at night with a crew, seven specifically, push them in the hole, cover the lid, and wake up to treasure. That's my policy. Also, you know, like, I'm a big animal rights advocate. But human rights? What?
Starting point is 00:22:00 F*** no. Get in the hole. This is me giving a speech to my workers uh you are bad boss yes jim jim's raising his hand at the back of the room um i quit fine i guess you can do that but you have to pick up your pension from the hole i'm not gonna do that i'm just gonna leave the pension shit i haven't been contributing to your pension so much as occasionally tossing a coin into the pit yeah i was just wondering you know what's the rules here like uh you know like i figure like rat deaths that might be a little kind of low tier but what about like i don't know like a dog
Starting point is 00:22:39 or like a chimp a chimp because chimps can work they're basically shitty humans they can also monkeys die better i feel bad about saying they can die better it's not as bad apparently when they die compared to humans i'm really glad you clarified that instead of being like they die better they're louder angrier more sporadic it's just it's a better experience they're like bloody spartans they go down in a flame of glory well from 1909 onwards many different groups tried and failed to excavate the money pit jesus christ last millennium the money that we were born in oh hell yeah wow including a group of explorers called the old salvage group and here's a picture of the old salvage group. Oh, please. They definitely look like a capable crew. Yeah, I mean, in essence, it's a picture of a dad squad.
Starting point is 00:23:29 It is kind of. Really, it's a lot of dads with a lot of free time digging for treasure. I wanted to include a picture of these guys because one of their members was actually FDR, the president. What? Yeah, he was a member of the old salvage group. What? Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:23:42 He was one of the people that went to the money pit and looked for treasure. The president. Jesus Christ. I'm telling you, this is a big deal. People want this treasure. They believe it's here. Well, these attempts continued into 1958.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Now, we're saying a lot of people were searching here, but they're also finding stuff. People are finding sheepskins with messages scribbled on them, more tablets, engravings, tools which they believed were used to make the money pit, and even fragments, mineral fragments of more gold. But with all of these artifacts, there is still no treasure yet. Maybe because there's only two deaths. Who knows? God damn it. The next attempt was made in 1959 by a man named Robert Restall. Okay. And his team. One day while setting up the pumps to drain the water,
Starting point is 00:24:36 Robert accidentally inhaled the carbon monoxide fumes emitting from one of the engines. Okay, awesome. The world faded around him. He began to lose his balance and he fell down into the pit to his death what what depth is it at this point deep very deep real deep okay i mean it was to break a man's neck it was like what did we say 60 feet a hundred years ago at least like it is getting insane to this point it is so deep and large and there's like multiple pits now his son seeing his father fall into the pit ran over to climb down and rescue
Starting point is 00:25:12 him but accidentally inhaled a huge amount of carbon monoxide and fell into the hole oh christ listen get your carbon monoxide filters or alarms checked, people. It's a silent killer. Which I guess is a canary. Not only if you... Check your canaries, folks. Two nearby workers shot up in panic and ran over to save the boy and his father. They inhaled the fumes and fell into the pit.
Starting point is 00:25:39 No, you're ad-libbing. What? This is real? Four lives were claimed that day. Shut your mouth. The father, the son, and two workers father the son and two workers so dumb all fell into the pit are so pointlessly tragic that's six lives kit i was really wondering how you're gonna get from like two i know because you think that people were like working that day and they're like i don't know why we're digging like only two people have died in this pit.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Like we got maybe years to go. And then it's like, oh no, did you not hear? Robert, his son and the two workers just fell in and died. We're up to six. Goddamn. It's like D-Day now. Whoa. Everyone starts backing away from the hall because someone's about to push someone in.
Starting point is 00:26:22 With Restall and his son dead and two of his workers the team obviously gave up you'd be crazy of course this but in the 1960s the triton alliance were the next group to give it a shot and you know 1960s here we're talking pretty damn advanced this is very worryingly recent they installed a giant steel tube that they could use to lower a camera down into the money pit. Finally some f***ing technology. Right. The camera didn't find any treasure, but it did see something floating down in the water. As the camera approached the object, it became clear.
Starting point is 00:26:59 It was a human hand. Well, I mean, a lot of people have died in the pit. And soon after, the rest of the body was discovered. They don't know whose body it was. Okay. It could have been from the workers, but they never found out whose body it actually was. Okay. Soon after the body was discovered, the shaft started falling
Starting point is 00:27:16 apart. The company ran out of money, and they had to shut down the operation. Is this one of the bodies that fell in the hole? Or, did this mean there was already a body in the hole and this is the seven lives claimed like we could be at seven lives and not even realize it yet interesting i know what you're thinking we're not going to the hole i did notice that you had added a stretch goal to our patreon page called let's go to the F***ing Hole. Didn't make sense to any of our patrons.
Starting point is 00:27:47 500 grand for tools and shit. We haven't released this episode yet, so they were none the wiser. We lost a lot of patrons actually on that one. Which is weird because, you know, all of our tiers are like $5, $20, $50. And then the last one is one doubloon. We go to the hole.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Send Triton Alliance alliance who's triton alliance no one knows who that is i do like that all these um companies have kind of cool names right you've got to have a crew name they're all the type of companies that are so rich that no one even knows what they do yeah triton alliance what the hell is that yeah just a rich company that could be like a goddamn you know like venture capital fund or that could be like a plumbers who knows yeah exactly it's kind of cool you'd hope it'll be plumbers with the water and everything with the yeah the pit the mario brothers showed up on the scene Waluigi took in a huge breath of carbon monoxide. Fell in the pit.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Fell in the warp tube. And that takes us up to the last few years. When a pair of treasure hunting brothers picked up the rights to excavate on the money pit. We're talking the year 2000. Jesus Christ. The History Channel became aware of the brothers' efforts and commissioned a show called The Curse of Oak Island. Whoa. Which has run now for four or five seasons.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Okay. How many deaths? No deaths. Okay. So far. This is what the entire search needed was, I understand that TV crews and stuff, they have like first aid protocols safety people i'm just
Starting point is 00:29:26 imagining one of these explorers and uh you know they've got a producer on site and he's like a you know savvy producer type and he's like he's like okay good morning folks uh so what's the the first shot of the day the explorer's like well i'm gonna wrap a rope around my waist and around my neck and lower myself into the hole well i'm more or less gonna jump in rather than lower myself and then my brother's gonna yank on the rope right before i hit the bottom how about we put you in a harness and lower you down ah i guess that could be safer well in the series digging around the hole and the swamp area they made a number of big discoveries whoa first was a spanish coin from the 17th century okay then okay a roman sword what then how far back are we going here dude wait do you see then port Portuguese carvings and even evidence that the island had been visited
Starting point is 00:30:26 by the ancient Aztecs what shut I'm not kidding I'm not kidding but but this what this is suddenly getting a lot deeper than just doubloons
Starting point is 00:30:41 why are there Romans and Aztecs and god damn conquistadors the leaving remnants around here we're just about to go into a little bit about the history of this island and why there are so many things on it okay but basically in the penultimate episode of the show's fifth season the brothers discovered a brooch containing a 500 year old gemstone i mean they're doing it they're well yeah i mean this is they're finding treasure yeah actually exactly like they're not just coming up any handed they're genuinely finding treasures and artifacts on and around this money pit this island because of its location and it's like incredibly colorful history there are so
Starting point is 00:31:28 many different theories about what actually lies in the bottom of this money pit because it was so central uh in terms of it being like a pirate hub there's a lot of different legends surrounding what could be buried on this island some of the crazy ones are that some people think William Shakespeare's early manuscripts and earnings are buried on the island. Why? Why would it be there? Another theory claims Mary Antoinette buried her treasure
Starting point is 00:31:57 on the island during the French Revolution. What? There must be some logical history to back this up. I don't know enough shit about history jesus's freaking hat it's probably done there dude i'd really like it if you weren't talking about like the crown of thorns it was just this dope no no his hat like they left it out of all the stained glass windows but he actually rocked a hat like 90 the borderline beanie a lot of the time jesus's beanie
Starting point is 00:32:26 was the treasure the son of god snap back was the was the the treasure all along it's like the it's like the legends of like golden treasures were very overblown. Just the sticker on the Supreme hat. There's also obviously legends of pirates, Freemasonry treasure, and one man, one very rich, popular,
Starting point is 00:33:00 famous man named Vincent Astor financed part of this entire expedition okay in the belief that they might uncover the ark of the covenant i mean whatever this island is and whatever this history surrounding it is apparently there's like freemasonry artifacts littered all across the island i uh spent a lot of this episode ragging on this story and um quite honestly as soon as we wrap this puppy up i want to hop on skyscanner and i really think we ought to check this place out right it's pretty badass we could get a cheap flight to nova scotia along with fdr along with this guy vincent vincent astor
Starting point is 00:33:38 astor throwing his money at it another one of the big investors was popular movie star john wayne what he threw his fortune into this money pit paying and investing in teams to go and try and find the treasure wow i mean that does sound like a very john wayne-y thing to do definitely but if there's one man i trust to get the job done john goddamn wayne a fictional cowboy yeah uh but one of the most interesting investors that i found that really kind of blew this case wide open in a direction i don't know where it's i mean i don't know who this could be things we've currently had fdr and john wayne one of the big investors in these projects was the one and only richard e birdrd. Do you remember Richard E. Byrd? Refresh my memory.
Starting point is 00:34:27 This was the man who flew to both poles and delivered cryptic messages about the hollow earth. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. In one of those episodes, we listened to his audio testimony about visiting the Antarctic and about how we should be yeah it's gonna be important yeah one of these days needs to focus on that area specifically i mean i think i deemed him to be wrong on that one irrelevant but why is a man who was once linked to the hollow paying people to dig a big ass hole i rest my case so i think i rest it's definitely my case
Starting point is 00:35:12 roy's eating his notes i mean you obviously typed them the data still exists on your laptop case dismissed not how i have paper cuts all over my mouth i don't know if that last bit of information is definitely pretty fascinating um it was just interesting it almost means it's less true somehow so that about wraps up the history of the money pit and what's going on right now in the world of the money pit uh to my knowledge there has still not been any huge amount of treasure discovered uh or at least discovered and declared yeah because you know the gov the gov is going to try and tax that shit tax my doubloons but obviously on this podcast we're faced with a larger question is this paranormal that's what it's going to come down
Starting point is 00:36:03 to is this whole paranormal Is this whole paranormal? Is this legend paranormal? As always, that is the question at the end of every episode. I think my major problem with the concept of the curse is that it would... If indeed we have seven legitimate deaths in and around the whole... Don't know the exact, you know, small print of this curse.
Starting point is 00:36:24 If we had that, it would at the very least be a fantastic coincidence uh at the most be a bona fide curse right we don't know if we have seven deaths we have six verified deaths it's true in the hole it's true and then this floating and then this body yeah which was too like bloviated to that could have been one of the workers yeah god knows how many people were hurt or injured in that hole that they never told anyone about on the outside yeah and you know the guys who are in the hole dig in the hole do not have loved ones who are like retrieving that body these guys have nothing left to lose no you die in the hole you
Starting point is 00:37:05 become part of the whole yeah you know i really like the story i'm big into pirates and curses but i'm not entirely sure if the curse of neckbeard the pirate is essentially convincing enough or we have enough proof or evidence of it to make a convincing argument that that is linked to the discovery of actual treasure on the island do i think that there might be treasures buried in that money pit or around it on the island absolutely i think there's probably quite a few things that people haven't discovered yet on that island do i think that it is paranormal in any sense no it is a no from me this week it definitely blew my mind that there was anything other than dirt down there that blew my goddamn socks off but we have not seen anything produced
Starting point is 00:37:54 we've seen fantastic treasures produced yeah nothing paranormal nothing paranormal they didn't like hit a rock and a ghost came out right like stay away and like faded into the night they're like what the f**k was that what was that did you hear that holy s**t that was it i mean that's like that's all the bar ghosts have and they like fade off into the into the clouds yeah i'd hope that would be enough to stop the excavation team i mean if water stopped them well i mean we learned from the ancient egyptian expedition that they were warned at several turns that they were going to be cursed oh yeah they there was so much money behind the expedition they did not stop blinded by doubloons but i think it is a double
Starting point is 00:38:37 no this week so unfortunately on the podcast this week that is a double no but thank you so much to barry norton for emailing the oak island money pit case into this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com that is a reminder folks if you want us to investigate a particular tale and talk about it here on the show email it in or you can tweet us at this para life or post about it in our Facebook group, The Secret Society. Shh, don't talk about it, but post there and tell all your friends. And if you want to delve deeper down this rabbit hole, this money pit,
Starting point is 00:39:13 you can check out the show notes of the episode. That's right. Every episode, we detail the research that went into it in terms of Rory's research for this episode.
Starting point is 00:39:24 That's probably, there's a lot of stuff redacted there, you know, that he considered spoilers that you can find out about in the show notes. Absolutely. I would say, you know, that this Paranormal Life Patreon
Starting point is 00:39:34 is a bit like the money pit. You know, you guys throw your cash in it and there's a 1% chance you'll get anything of worth in return. Oh, but if you do get it, it gonna be worth it and not until not until seven dads die in the goddamn paranormal nation will the our patreon just overflow with doubloons and bonus content that's right that's the only currency we accept in the commune by the way it's can we start cult doubloons if if there's someone technologically proficient in the paranormal
Starting point is 00:40:11 nation i would love to start a crypto doubloon yeah that's a really good idea and that would be the official currency probably of the paranormal commune you know we're really ramping up things towards the establishment of this commune so we need to get lots of things in place including a currency we only accept crypto doubloons and cult dollars for the commune every week we shout out members of the paranormal nation that have joined the patreon cult and commune and actually first of all i have an overdue shout out. We had one of our longtime listeners, Vicky Gregorich. Yeah, she emailed us a long time ago and sent in this incredible glass for drinking. This like jar glass for drinking Lombardi out of. It looks very cursed.
Starting point is 00:40:57 It is highly cursed. It seems to depict a small girl with blacked out eyeballs carrying a cursed looking doll. The whole thing is black and white and very old and cursed looking. And we love it. Anyway, thank you so much for that, Vicky. And shout out to her sister's business where she apparently makes these things,
Starting point is 00:41:19 decoupage.ie. And we're also going to shout out our most recent members of the Patreon. Here we are. Let's go. Let's go. Thank you to Dave Parrott. Rory won a doubloon.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Throw it in the hole. That's right. Thanks, Mr. Parrott, for chucking a doubloon in the hole of the Paranormal Pals. We appreciate it immensely. Thank you to Rachel McCormick. Rachel, how long can you hold your breath? Because I got a hole that's filling with water with a bunch of doubloons in the bottom
Starting point is 00:41:52 and I need someone to swim down and grab them for me. These are presumably the tactics used by the very persuasive explorers of this hole. If you're interested, Rachel, please call 0800-GIMME-THE-MONEY. Thank you to John Slingsby. John, you're just the mon I was
Starting point is 00:42:10 looking for. I need someone who can climb down a hole, vertical, head first. Why? What's your tolerance to carbon monoxide, John? Same as anyone. Completely fatal. Then you're not the mon I was looking for. I apologize. You're barely a mon at all.
Starting point is 00:42:26 A real mon could withstand the poison. This is you after you spent two weeks in Jamaica. Thank you too. Jeffrey Horden. Jeffrey, are you Horden me de bloons? Cause I'm poor as shit. Thank you too. Tom Strachan.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Tom, you look like a Strachan young man that can lower me via rope into a big-ass hole. I tell you what, as soon as I come back up with a whole bucket of doubloons, I'll give you one. Sound good? I take your silence as a yes. Thank you too. This is a yes. Thank you, too.
Starting point is 00:43:05 This is a goddamn crazy celebrity shout-out. Famed designer, Tom Ford. Thank you so much. Adam, Pat, Molly, Iraq, Tom Ford. International, give me the doubloons. Thank you, too. Luke Aldridge. Thank you, Luke.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And you know what? I'll dredge to that. Jesus Christ. That was such a stretch. Thank you to Daniel Bruzas. Daniel, please, to the love of God, do not bruise us. We promise you we'll give you the doubloons as soon as we find them. I know you've invested a lot in the goddamn hole.
Starting point is 00:43:45 We all have, Daniel. Give us a little second. Do not bruise us and we will get you your freaking money. All right? Thank you too. Kieran Bain. Kieran Bain, you are insane. If you think I'm going in that goddamn hole with you, you're going down alone.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I'm scared of the dark. I'm scared of water. And I'm scared of holes. The curse is scared of water. And I'm scared of holes. The curse is on a six. I'm sending one more person in there before I get in there. And it's going to be clumsy Bane for sure. Thank you to Melissa. Melissa, you have officially been in charge of the This Paranormal Life militia.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Because we need someone to head up that operation just in case anyone tries to leave the cult. Commune. They leave the commune. It's mostly for, you know, to protect the commune. To keep them out, not us in. But we will stay in. Yeah, we will. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Lastly, but not leastly, to JB Adley. JB, I gladly accept your offer as a sacrifice to go down into the hole headfirst. One more question. Are you a dad, though? Who? Oh, J.B.? Yeah. I thought you were asking me.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I was like, irrelevant. Father of six, but irrelevant. You've got to make sure you're a dad, J.B., before we send you in there, or else the gods will not be pleased. Absolutely not. Thank you to everyone we've shouted out so far on this podcast, and everyone who's shouted out before. If you haven't heard your name just yet and you are a patron that is because your shout out is coming in a future episode so just hang in there if you're
Starting point is 00:45:12 coming to the paranormal cult remember to bring a shovel because we will be digging holes non-stop have you seen the movie holes yeah that's gonna be what the commune is like digging holes and eating onions or whatever the f*** they eat in that movie we need to start painting the commune a better light what we haven't mentioned so far is um free mind time which stretches from night to day aka 24 goddamn 7 free mind time free mind time no rules no restrictions you believe it it's. Welcome to the commune. I could be on a little... Wow, you're really good at bullshitting. You'll be awesome at this.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I'm going to be a great cult leader. Commune. What? Thank you for tuning in to this episode. I hope you enjoyed it. We will see you next Tuesday for a brand new Paranormal Tale. Bye-bye. tuesday for a brand new paranormal tale bye-bye we're tracking
Starting point is 00:46:10 i can't get to sleep i think I'm sorry that's just my vocal warm up so high I'm also reading from my diary I can't get to sleep all I can hear is the ticking
Starting point is 00:46:40 shut the fuck up

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