This Paranormal Life - #078 Ghost Mongoose Haunts Family - Part 2

Episode Date: September 11, 2018

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On last week's episode of This Paranormal Life! It's 1931 on the Isle of Man. On a hill lay a farmhouse, home to the Irving family. One night, by the light of lamp, they heard scratching. It sounded like it was coming from behind the walls. The Irvings looked at each other and summoned the courage to ask, Who are you? The creature said its name was Jeff.

Jeff said that he was a mongoose. I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world! You don't know what damage or harm I could do if I were roused. I could kill you all, but I won't. Welcome back to This paranormal life the podcast where every week we dissect a different paranormal tale claim or case and get to the bottom of whether it is true or whether it is false you are being joined by myself kit greer this guy

roy pars hello hello and you're actually tuning in to to part two of a two-part series on a paranormal mongoose called Jeff. If that doesn't make sense to you, get the f*** out. Because you obviously didn't listen to the first part. You're obviously not a fan of the show. Not welcome. And we take that personally. So if you don't know what that is, get out. If you do, welcome back, brother.

Listen, if you like your stories to make sense uh i highly recommend going back to episode one it might not even make sense i highly recommend going to the next town because you're not welcome here you're really doubling down on this like hating on the people who missed the last episode it's easier to make enemies than friends i've learned that in life right bad outlook you just made an enemy for life wow asshole so last week we heard all about the irving family in the Isle of Man and discovered Jeff the mongoose. We knew that Jeff had been, to say the least, kind of a weird anti-hero.

Whilst he helped the family on occasion, leading them to believe that he was friendly, he also did mean stuff that made them question his motives. It started off small. One day Jim, the man of the house took too long to open the morning paper and jeff yelled read it out loud you fat-headed gnome another time jeff apparently just started groaning loudly for 30 straight minutes good lord just to annoy the family i think at this point i mean you refer to him as an anti-hero.

And I think he's probably doing more on the negative side than the plus sides at this point. It's a little bit of a grandiose title. Right. He's more of a dickling, probably. Yeah, that's a fair classification. Yeah, I think to be fair, most of the things that he's doing that are good, like apparently putting out fires that people forget to... Yeah, who started them, Jeff? Fires go out in their

own that's not like a massive deal true you know protecting against intruders they live on a farm in the isle of man there's kind of a finite number of people that even live on the goddamn island yeah let alone violent intruders that a mongoose is gonna scare away he killed and brought them a rabbit the pet family rabbit that was just eating a bit of lettuce. Thumper. Thumper, yeah. He just looked at him funny and Jeff flipped. I brought in dinner.

It's Thumper. I took off his head. Voirier, the child, screaming, crying. Ah, shut up, bitch. I feel like this is on Jim to be a little more like dad squad. You know, when you're a father there's nothing more important than the safety of your child as a father i know that more than anyone and i know father yeah three children really yeah let's move past that though fine i know

if keeping them safe means sneaking out one morning getting the f out of h and never looking back that's what you have to do right so that would explain why i've never heard of them or seen them yeah it's for their own safety yeah because actually most nights you're just like chilling playing video games so i know you're not looking after them in the evenings no no okay they're somewhere else they're somewhere else just to clarify they're not whenever you say somewhere else they're not like in heaven or something like that no no no you think they're still alive fine good parenting those guys if they are going everywhere anywhere it's straight to hell the way they treated their old man

just imagining rory at this brightly age of 16 a father of three for some reason with tiny reading glasses on a toddler coming up slapping the morning paper out of his head hey come on no authority whatsoever just because i'm the devil doesn't mean i'm raising demons so like i say doing a few kind of mean little dickling things around the house but as we discussed it eventually got pretty dark needless to say words soon got out about jeff and you know it's a small island. It wasn't long until local press started covering the story. Suddenly everyone's reading about it. Naturally, this causes Voirie to get the shit bullied out of her at school.

Kids truly can be so cruel. You can imagine. You know, you mongoose loving piece of... She obviously doesn't love the mongoose that's the kind of things kids said to me at school at least i mean that would be the most annoying thing is if people were like you mongoose loving son it's like at least if you're gonna make fun of me know that i hate the mongoose like it's in my house but i hate the mongoose it's like yeah you you do whatever it takes to protect your beloved mongoose, wouldn't you? Look at this, lifts up her top.

Mongoose scratches. It hates me. I hate it. But rather than fizzle out into obscurity, the press didn't subside at all. Eventually, the word reached the rest of the UK and other publications as far away as Hong Kong. Wow.

Not to mention magazines and journals about the paranormal all over the world they were puzzled that jeff seemed to be a paranormal being cast into the world of matter but all he seemed to do was gossip about people on the island and annoy the irving family like he didn't talk about the spirit world at all right which i assume is pretty banging is it seems weird to die be removed from this life enter a new world realm come back and all you want to do is like put out fires and kill rabbits yeah it's sort of suspicious i don't know like you know you have a friend that like goes on holiday and they're just like dude whenever i go i'm gonna go to all the coolest clubs i'm gonna

meet all the hottest chicks and you're like yeah cool i'm excited for you and then anyway they go on holiday they come back and you're like oh hey how was holiday how are the clubs and they're like crazy they were just so so wild i can't even describe it we got a little service at like three of them to make the models nervous yeah i met out with this really hot, but she goes to a different school, so you wouldn't know her. Oh, really? You don't have like a photo that you can show me?

She doesn't have Facebook. She doesn't have Facebook. I already asked, so don't even ask me about it because she doesn't have it. What's her name? Clarissa. Clarissa.

Okay, last name? Menevolent. Menevolent? Like the movie, Malevolent? Clarissa Lion King Menevolent. Don the movie, Malevolent? Clarissa Lion King Menevolent. Don't try and look her up because she doesn't have Facebook. Her sister, Frozen Hercules.

So I guess what I'm saying is if he had actually been there, I feel like he would have more to say. Absolutely. I think he said that whenever he died, he would go to the land of mist. He mentioned something about being the fifth dimension. He kind of gave vague hints about the afterlife or other dimensions. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but none of that sounds like heaven. That's all I'm saying.

None of that ever sounds like he was in heaven when he died. Right. The land of mist the fifth dimension so jeff yeah whenever you were you know on the other side who did you like hang out with um nixon hussein bin laden uh okay we're we're grouped there to be up at the uh Just guys with interesting stories to tell, you know? Bad stories, though. Not good ones. Important figures in history, you know?

Yeah, the wrong side of history, though. What were the gates like, the pearly gates? I don't know, spiky, hot. Hot? Yeah, hot, steaming, yeah. Gas, it didn't smell very good. What, the clouds didn't sort of sulfurous i suppose right did you see jesus up there no didn't see him didn't ask i have to say hitler dominated

most of the conversation didn't get a chance to ask for jesus i just want to i want to nip this in the bud when you died did you go up or down? It's hard to tell. It shouldn't be. Sort of spinning slightly downwards, I suppose. Even if it was slightly downwards, that's the wrong way. You said slightly and spinning. I saw the light, though. What light?

Fading into the distance. I did see the light. What light? Fire? Okay. That's that's hell buddy you're in hell you know i saw the fiery gates the fiery gates everyone always talks about i mean the pearly gates sure all this press had a positive effect though because this drew the attention of the paranormal investigator community that's, the goddamn underground army of heroes that keeps the sheeple safe at night. That's right. Well, one investigator, Harry Price,

visited the Irvings to try and meet Jeff, accompanied by one editor from the BBC. I feel like we've covered actually quite a number of stories where BBC have been involved. Knows their way in. I guess the standard of journalism has gone down in recent years because every time I load up bbc. been involved knows their way in um i guess the standard of journalism has gone down in recent years because every time i load up bbc.com forward slash paranormal i always hit a 404 it's like they don't want to talk about it ridiculous the two guys said quote the irvings

were kindness personified and did everything for us except produce je You see, the Irvings showed the men around, but Jeff pointedly refused to show up and even say one word. They were told absolutely everything about him and days passed, but eventually they just had to leave, empty handed. Obviously the Irvings were completely embarrassed, but no sooner had they left, and Jeff returned. Jim goes, where the hell have you been? Jeff said he had been on holiday for a few days and didn't want to do anything to help the Harry Price guy because he was, quote, a doubter. Oh, God. But Jim leveled with him.

He said, look, Harry left some plasticine here. Just make some paw prints for him, will you? That way he can prove to the world that you exist no you see jeff had apparently always been bragging about his hands he said what quote that he had hands as big as big dolls hands that's nothing to brag about that's very small hands. He couldn't even be more creative than just big doll hands. Regular mongoose, tiny hands. Me, it's like twice the size of a f***ing action man. What's so tiny?

It's tiny. It's like a thumbnail. Listen, I've beaten Bobby's Ken doll year after year in an arm wrestling match. You want a high five from me? I'll probably blow your goddamn hand off. Listen to this. I'm going to hit the wall. You feel the force of the thunder?

If I had tiny hands, could I do this? What was that? Was that a clap? I just punched the wall. I think I broke my tiny, I mean, I think I broke my giant doll-sized hands! But, unbelievably, Jeff agreed to do these paw prints.

So they left the plasticine with him, waiting patiently. Initially, he complained, It's too damned hard! I can't do it! They, like, drop out like a little pot of Play-Doh, and they're're like all right just do your paw prints here no no no no no you're gonna need about 50 of these bad boys to fit these cannons so eventually

they softened up the plasticine for him so that he could make the prints presumably that he slid these out and the tiniest pin brick size paw prints were there but finally evidence so i'm yeah i can actually beautifully i can actually show you these paw prints no you can't i can't it's actually quite a tiny image so you're gonna have to squint but here are the paw prints oh wow okay so imagine you're an investigator getting sent these they look very different from each other yeah i don't really know what that's about one is almost like long fingers and the other one is like an actual cat paw like you know those little beans like cats have right yeah on their feet that's what that one looks like i mean i've got nothing to scale it i don. So I don't know what size these are.

There is actually a scale there, but I can't tell. It's too small. It's too pixelated. Presumably these are microscopic. Presumably it's a nanometer scale. But they do exist? They certainly exist. This is, you know, an investigator with the BBC

got his hands on plasticine clay prints of Jeff's paws. Yeah. If you want to go ahead and trust the BBC got his hands on plasticine clay prints of Jeff's paws. Yeah, if you want to go ahead and trust the BBC. The freaking Ben Ben Cack, as I call him. What? MIBs. So the prints got sent off to none other than the Natural History Museum in London to Mr. Reginald Pocock to see if he could identify the beast. He sounds smart.

Yeah, absolutely. I don't even know what a Reginald is. Is that above captain or lower? I think it's on par with, um, lieutenant. Right, cool. So pretty up there. What a Pocock is, is anyone's guess though. No idea.

And to their shock, when they heard back from Mr back from mr pocock he said that the prince quote could not be traced to any node animal but as a caveat he said it could conceivably have been made by a dog kind of a contradiction there there is no node mammal in which there is such disparity in the size of the fore and hind foot, Pocock wrote to Price. Did he just say it could have been a dog? I do not believe these photographs represent foot tracks at all. Most certainly none of them was made by a mongoose. Basically what you're seeing in that image, which you guys can check out in the Patreon show notes,

the difference in size between these two is apparently the fore paws and the hind paws. Oh, okay. And basically one set is like a f***ing quarter of the size of the other. Yeah. And as Mr. Pocock has pointed out, there's no animal on Earth that that happens with. There's that much of a level of difference. Yeah, that is ridiculous. That's like centaur level of difference.

Hands and hooves. Yeah, he has the forepaws of a doll and the hindpaws of an even smaller doll. Yeah. So this evidence was inconclusive so far, basically. But luckily, there was more of where that came from. After all, Jeff isn't going anywhere. This isn't like some of the other cases we've studied

where there's like a one-off incident where maybe you're left with a you know paw print like bigfoot print lying around and then if that's inconclusive good luck to you that's it case closed jeff is just probably like hanging out back at the house like yelling insults at jim at this point so they went back and said jeff we need something more we need anything at all a hair sample and before And before long, he complied. My hair's twice as sturdy as doll hair. I'm like a goddamn Malibu Barbie, fresh out the box.

All your references are to do with doll. You know that Malibu Barbie went to hell. Oh, 100% she went to hell. Malibu Barbie had so many dark cocaine-fueled parties in her Malibu lifestyle that she absolutely went to hell malibu barbie had so many dark cocaine fueled parties oh yeah malibu lifestyle that she absolutely went to hell every one of her clothing items were made in the most horrific sweat shops imaginable i think she was emotionally abusive to ken probably yeah and he's in hell too for sure i think it was for dog fighting or something that piece of shit yeah but he complied so they found basically a tuft of hair a tiny tiny tuft of hair lying on the mantelpiece one day jeff yelled i pulled it from

my eyebrow and my god did it hurt jesus there was there's all there's got to be a better way to do that yeah then your eyebrow you're ripping it from your eyes imagine imagine you are the doctor we need a quick dna sample um i'm just gonna go get a swab they like turn around for one second come back you got a scalpel and you're like i cut blood from my nut sack why did you go why did you go straight blood of all nuts man's blood you wanted my dna right that's where i keep it because the longer that it's running around your body the more womanly it gets because it's further from the source so it's not really mine is it the doctor's like are you pissing right now a backup if you need that too you missed it you missed the cup completely you've just pissed all over the floor

i'm woozy from the nutsack wound doctor's like yeah we're just gonna take a quick um sample he's just typing into his computer he hears they're drowned and you're ripping off each toenail with a set of pliers oh jesus christ stop it i meant like hair sample this is bad give me a doctor am a doctor! You don't know what's happening! So now, because they wasted the Natural History Museum's precious time with the paw prints, they had to go somewhere else to get this hair checked out. You burnt your bridges there. Pocock's not picking up the phone anymore.

They turned to naturalist F. Martin Duncan, and Duncan got back with this letter. I've carefully examined the hair microscopically and compared them with hairs of unknown origin. As a result, I can definitely state that the specimen hairs never grew upon a mongoose, nor are they those of a rat, rabbit,

hare, squirrel, or other rodent. I'm inclined to think that these hairs have probably been taken from a dog. Okay. So we've got one set of paw prints that could have possibly come from a dog. We've got a hair

sample now that is most likely taken from a dog. So there was just one thing left to do. Get a sample from the Irving's sheepdog, Mona, and send it to duncan too so you know csi style um goddamn microscope montage ensues he actually writes up this very textbook looking study comparing the different hair samples between jeff and and mona the. I didn't know that there were so many people out there

in the educational institutions that would be so willing to just take on any claim or case. I mean, they just approached two people and he's like, you got a ghost mongoose in the walls? I was like, I'll get in on that action. Yeah, it was a beautiful time of open-mindedness. You know, I tried to call up the natural history museum today yeah i get redirected to the police because they say you have to stop

calling you've no right to bother these people stop sending hair in the mail yeah it's abusive yeah yeah you're sending your own bloody nutsack hair to strangers who don't want it. Which is the wording, is this okay? They're not doctors. They don't know that. Is this paranormal? Scrawled on a piece of paper. Also got blood on it.

But you're right. This was at the perfect time in history. Yeah. Where open-mindedness and ignorance cross at the perfect point. That's what I call the goddamn second enlightenment. Yeah. It was the peak of ignorance. The graph reached an all-time high.

Where anything was possible. It was the goddamn flower year, you know? I don't know a lot about the 60s and 70s, but I think it was just acoustic music woodstock people banging each other in fields age of aquarius all that stuff nowadays people are too lazy too tired and too smart to actually do anything about it you see these days it's all a bunch of uh you know peace love and hippies absolutely you know roaming around the place oh free love man no love isn't free it costs money the only time i want to see you putting a flower in the barrel of a gun is

when you have learned how to weaponize that pollen to fire out a 12 gauge and take someone's head off because all these hippies out there they say violence is never the answer. We've got to love each other. And I say to them, look through my telescope. And then they'll look through it and they'll inevitably see Planet X, which, yes, we haven't covered in the podcast yet. But they will see Planet X hurtling towards the Earth, starships in tow with blasters ready to take out our planet at a moment's notice. We need to arm against the

intergalactic enemy you turn to her and go look summer you're gonna put a flower in the barrel of that ray gun hell no it doesn't have a barrel it uses crystals good luck you're gonna put a daisy chain on that guy's head he didn't even have a neck just floats above his body huh what are you gonna do now daisy or summer whatever name is this is your own kid i come back after 20 years to my three kids talking about planet x what are you gonna do kids huh your old man's back planet x is coming you're all hippie hippie assholes they're like we regret inviting you to christmas this year you leaving was actually we realize now the best thing you could have done you wanted to keep us safe and we didn't realize you were the danger mom was right

you're a crazy person alien grace from planet x land and they come out and they're wearing flower necklaces and they're like peace brother you're like oh peace among worlds that's bullshit that. That is bullshit, bro. We gotta be fighting. Walk over to the leader of the alien army. Put a telescope up to his eye. See that? That's planet Y.

That dude is coming down to get you. You're gonna put your space flowers in the barrel of that laser gun. They come down. You guys into the peace stuff? We're into that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool. You gotta be shitting me, man. Who's your leader? Someone bring me a telescope. There's not even one nuke between all you pussies.

What kind of planets are you? Yeah, this researcher, Duncan, he examined the hair of Jeff, cross-analyzed it with the hair of Mona the sheepdog, and wrote back, Your sample on examination is absolutely identical with the alleged mongoose hairs. That's not what you want to hear. They all came from the same animal, the dog, and not from any mongoose.

This Duncan guy had just flipped the script. Maybe from any mongoose. This Duncan guy had just flipped the script. Maybe Jeff the mongoose, stay with me here, stole some dog hair to f*** the scientists. That's a stretch. Or maybe something even darker is afoot. Maybe there is no mongoose. Maybe he never existed. The mongoose is a cover-up for a haunted dog.

This dog has framed an innocent mongoose. Maybe even a non-existent mongoose. It's f***ed up. Did you ever think that maybe the family have made this up? And they are submitting dog hair to scientists? What? When people show up, they're saying, Jeff isn't appearing.

He's on vacation. What would be the possible reason for doing that? The sad thing is, I have no idea. No, because this is a humble farming family from the Isle of Man.

Jim, Margaret, and Voirie are saints. Pillars of their community. Look, I don't want to, you know, diss the Isle of Man. I don't know how many bowling alleys it has, how many Odeon cinemas it has, how many freaking cocktail bars it has. I don't know what there is to do there on a weekend.

Maybe all you can do is make up paranormal stories and tell them to your friends and neighbors how very dare you sure the isle of man has absolutely none of those things yes it's boring as shit there's absolutely nothing to do it's unbelievably backwards they didn't even have electricity it was really boring i cannot stress that enough right right but these people are honorable they would never lie why would they lie how do you know that i don't but i've got something better than knowledge better than conviction evidence heart that's not how we trust people that's not usually how we wrap up maybe you're a cynical you know jaded guy we don't end the podcast by going that's all the research

um heart there's usually evidence and a conclusion fine well there's more where that came from a silver bullet if you will so this was a pretty tense conversation when jim got back to the house and had to confront jeff you can imagine the dog no the mongoose right in the walls jim the ghost mongoose in the walls yes yeah obviously jeff turns the keys opens up the door to his own house you know all the lights are off but he can hear scuttling of course you said there wasn't electricity, so. I'm really not appreciating this, that you're actually getting in the way of the storytelling,

so just keep it to yourself for a little bit. Here's scuttling around the house. Hey, Jeff, so, yeah. So, Duncan actually thought that your hair came from the dog. Weird, I know, weird. What? He should not think. He should know. He damn well does not know what I am. At this point, you can only imagine the thoughts going through Jeff's mind. He's a king whose power was waning, a prophet that no one believed in. He had been embarrassed and disgraced in his own home. How could he recover from this?

He had to prove his existence to the world once and for all. Throughout this investigation, he had obviously been asked many times to be photographed. The Irvings, journalists and investigators all asking, why won't you show yourself? Well, this was the straw that broke the camel's back. He turned to Voirrey and said, These photos, they will be taken on the gate up the road. Oh my God. And so they were. Voirrey took photo after photo,

the shots that would finally put months of speculation to rest. And right here in the podcast i can show you these photos right now oh my god jeff the mongoose and his giant doll hands brace yourself mother what is that sorry paranormal mongoose what is that pretty dark i know i can't even i can't even speculate what that is his hands are massive it's so if you're gonna if you've got the chance to take photos why would you not make sure they're in focus half of them he's so camera shy he's hiding behind a post like he really doesn't want to be there i'm cutting them a little slight because it's the 30s but they are a little opaque very opaque in one of them it looks he looks like a doll

another one it just looks like a boulder he's placed on there. Third one looks like a potato. It could well be, I'll be honest. You know what? But fair play for bringing some actual physical evidence to this podcast. That's a rarity on this show, and I appreciate that. We've had paw prints, hair samples examined by goddamn naturalists and the people who know, people who work at the Natural History Museum. And now photographs of the beast. Evidence provided by certified Reginalds. Needless to say, Jeff faded into obscurity after this.

No one, frankly, was won over by this scant evidence. It was widely assumed to be a hoax. Fair. Sadly, Jim Irving died in 1945, and the family had to sell up the house. But much less than fame and fortune befalling this humble farming family, the farm now had the reputation of being haunted and sold at a loss, actually. Wow, I forgot this was back in the days

where that would actually impact the sales and pricing of a house. Yeah, it was kind of a gamble um going public with this whole haunted mongoose thing yeah because nowadays you look at things like skinwalker ranch right you know a property being sold for millions because of its fame and publicity regarding the paranormal endeavors that take place um but back in these days you are basically saying that your property is a cesspit of haunted shenanigans and no one wants to live on a cesspit especially on these small communities i mean i've heard stories within my lifetime in ireland in farming communities of people that are wildly um superstitious, you know, won't cut down

fairy bushes or things like that. But it eventually found one buyer, a Leslie Graham, an actor in the 40s. And in a shocking and fast turn of events, he claimed to have shot and killed Jeff. What? Jesus, that was quick. But when he provided a corpse for journalists, What? Jesus, that was quick. But when he provided a corpse for journalists, it seemed to be a regular mongoose. Large, black and white. Nothing like previously described. Voirie herself broke the silence about it

and claimed that that was not Jeff at all. Wait, were mongoose native to the Isle of Man? I think not, but we did hear, i believe in the last episode that there was at least one farmer who had imported them for some reason right insane maybe it was like a pet or pest control or something even back in the 30s it's like kind of every animal is somewhere in every country yeah you want a panther get a panther it's easy is that what's growling is that what i'm hearing growling a couple of this is a new addition to the house yep you really should have brought that up with

the with the other housemates i heard the movie was good thought i'd get my own what black panther black panther i got three of them so you didn't watch black panther to and to know that it's nothing really about panthers i didn't have to watch it was a five star movie five stars three panthers too short they wouldn't let me have any more the flat's quite small all i knew was i wanted to create my own wakanda so you have seen the movie i have no idea what you're talking about this is my first panther chadwick insane second michael b jordan and in 1970 fate magazine which i've never heard of before, but sounds extremely intense, tracked down Voirie herself and interviewed her about everything that happened. She was reluctant to talk, but did say, quote,

Yes, there was a little animal who talked and did all those other things. He said he was a mongoose and we should all call him jeff but i do wish he had let us alone okay so she's still she's sticking with the story apparently okay i i admire that i put it to you was jeff a paranormal sprite or just an extra extra clever mongoose uh can i say neither you've only given me two options but i feel like there is a world of other choices uh i believe that jeff was a creature invented by this family who didn't exist when the bbc showed up for evidence they couldn't provide it when they wanted uh proof of his paw prints they were inconclusive or that of a dog's.

The hair was that of the dog. It was DNA tested to prove that. There was no evidence. I think the family might have gone a little cabin feverish on the Isle of Man due to lack of Odeon cinemas and bowling alleys, as I said. So I think it's edging towards a no for me this week, but I want to hear what you have to say, Kit. Wow, that was actually a pretty brutal takedown of the last two episodes.

Yeah, to suplex them straight into the grave. I really shouldn't have pre-recorded. I spent all of yesterday pre-recording the yes double yes ending to this i actually called up voyerie's living relatives and super inappropriate said regardless of the answer it's a yes from us maybe more inappropriate because if it was a yes they didn't know what i was talking about they were kind of you just phoned up and said it's a yes yeah i thought they would know who we were but didn't know i think it's problematic that no one saw the mongoose uh you're really easing into this no even in 1970 voyery didn't even say outright that she had seen him. Right. She said, he said he was a mongoose, and he asked we should call him Jeff.

She didn't even say she'd seen him. Okay. Mongoose can't talk. It's another thing. Another con. Right. A little tick on the con list. Yeah.

Yeah, no one saw him. Mongoose can't talk. Hair was, yeah, absolutely not. A little tick on the old list yeah uh yeah no one saw him mongers can't talk hair was yeah absolutely not on the old no the evidence was lies definitely that's definitely true investigators couldn't find anything to do with it you're beating around the bush after saying evidence was lies i don't think there's any other way to go from that sentence onwards. I just can't bring myself to come down and know after, frankly, years of research. Not mine, granted. I mean, minutes of research on my behalf. I don't think we have enough evidence to say that this is a yes on the podcast today.

But as always, we do have to come down on a hard and fast conclusion and it sounds like today both of us think that in the case of jeff the extra clever mongoose from the isle of man it is a double no jesus i mean no one saw that coming i know what a shocker second part to this series i I was so on board for the first half. This case came so goddamn close to the wire with its reams of evidence and hairpin twists that I'm sure you guys out in the paranormal nation have plenty of your own ideas

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He's a billionaire. crazy you know he's he's a busy guy he's a billionaire but um the one thing that he lies awake at night thinking about is that he can't get access to our little group yeah because i'll be damned if i let that little hippie asshole join our civilization the show notes to this episode and every episode that we cover on this paranormal life those notes are available on patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life. You want to see those pictures of Jeff? You want to see the DNA prints and all of the conclusions that the scientists came to? We have the reports.

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episodes if you just can't get enough paranormal tales um as well as merchandise and other things we don't run ads on the podcast so it is the best and only way to support this paranormal life we just dropped a bonus episode the other day. Here's a clip of what one sounds like. My son was killed by a mountain lion. Load up the chopper, boys. And they're, you know, they're all out there because this time it's personal.

I know, and as he's like remembering back his son, you're just hearing the flashback in his head. Oh, gee, Dad, are you sure it's okay to be here in the zoo with this sirloin steak in my back pocket it's nutritious billy eat it up it's gonna make you grow big and strong okay dad but we're so close to the lion's den oh those lions are vegetarians they aren't they're not about... It looks like one of them's really hungry, Dad. Yeah, probably for a piece of lettuce. Dad!

He's getting close! They're scared of eye contact. Just stare him out, Billy. Just stare him out. I'm in his mouth! That's right. Just play dead. Him remembering telling his son to play dead.

I don't know where I got that information from. It couldn't have been more wrong. And as always, at the end of every episode, we like to take the time to thank those who have supported us on Patreon thus far. So here we are. Let's go. Thank you to Jody Rewa.

Jody, I know your secret, Cody. Listen up to this. Blashk on the badal garaki onni. That was thank you for the patreon money in mine and cody's secret language called language of the brothers of love uh jody actually just im'd me uh right here on patreon and said um i didn't catch a word of that so oh wait what's the second

name rewa rep never heard of him oh i was thinking of a different cody i was thinking of cody oh like not a nickname their name is actually just cody yeah cody code maker code maker code breaker uh this guy though he seems like a swell dude thank you for supporting us on the patreon thank you too chloe george chloe gotta run fast can't go slowy. When those cryptids are coming after you like a bullet in the night. When the beast of Bladenborough is nibbling on your heels. All I know in my head is I gotta be one step ahead of you to survive. And what you should be thinking is you gotta be one step ahead of me. You know, if we're both running away from the beast and you start shiving my sides to

get me to slow down mad respect that's the law of the jungle i accept my fate shiving people exactly the lion comes at me shiv them law of the jungle mad respect the lion's like, fair dues, brother. Here's my cubs. Throwing cubs at me. Guess what? Shiv them. The lion's like, you know what? Even bigger respect, brother. For being a cold-hearted king of the jungle. So thank you, Chloe, so much for supporting the Patreon.

I hope you are enjoying all your bonus content. Thank you also to Rob Gray. That's the first thing I do on an alien planet. Rob the Grays. They got that space swag. We're talking ray guns. We're talking space crystals. We are talking the cure for goddamn...

Pernis. We are talking the cure for goddamn pernice. Also known as cash. I think we covered it in a previous show notes about the hope diamond. The stuff that aliens use to just goddamn pave the streets. They use diamonds, 24 karat gold. The kind of stuff that would make actually a pretty penny back on Earth. So fill your boots, Rob. Exactly.

Thank you also to Catherine Eyre. Thanks, Catherine Eyre. Thanks also to Catherine Fire, Catherine Wind, Catherine Water, Catherine Earth. And all the guardians of planet Earth. Presumably all your sisters or some shit. Thank you. Really, really appreciated. Thank you also to cure nathan nathan the man who's always erasing that's right anytime i catch him you know trying to shred his documents because we're talking about a high level agent in the

mibs we're talking top top tier nathan is like he knows how to use a shredder like yeah and we're not talking about like a human shredder because he's top tier at the mibs he's got alien shredders that shreds the pages down into a worm hole that shoots them out into the sun so this asshole's got his tracks covered all i'm gonna say is nathan as soon as i find out how to get to the sun i'm gonna get all those little scraps of paper and you're going down buddy i'm going to wiki leak all of it so sleep sleep well at night you know goddamn space bed because i'm coming for you nathan to this, thank you for the Patreon money. Oh, yeah, thanks. Yeah.

Oh, actually, he's erased my entire life, it looks like. Holy shit. My God, my entire identity is stolen. It wasn't that good, though, so I guess clean slate, right? That's pretty good. Harsh but fair. Thank you to Redmond. That's the choice we're faced with every day when we wake up.

Do we want to take the Redmond or the Blumondand do you want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes i don't remember which one is the weird one the red redmond is the weird one wouldn't that be super embarrassing if like morpheus was like you have a choice the red pill or the blue pill and you're like you you're thinking for so long that you're like fuck man i'm i'm so sorry which one does which again like you don't want to have to ask more yeah can you explain the pills again i forgot because then he's just like you truly aren't the chosen one no no no my life shit i want to come with you yeah he's like oh i'll i'll take the um i'll take the the red one wow you're gonna take the red one no the blue one then the blue one you're gonna take the red one. Wow, you're going to take the red one? No, the blue one then. The blue one.

You're going to take the blue one? I don't know which one's the white one. I can't win with you. Just let me eat the mirror. Let me eat the mirror. You want to take a one? Oh, what a loser. I had six reds for breakfast.

So thank you, Redman. I barely even feel them anymore. Thank you, Redman, for contributing to the Patreon. Arigato gozaimasu thank you lastly but not leastly to sammy hornsby shouldn't have eaten this ice wow eating ice in the middle of a podcast sorry professional i didn't know we were on we've been on for over an hour what i thought this was small talk i thought this was warm up at the top of the sode you're gonna want to listen back to this there's a lot of ice eating basically non-stop for the last hour

that's how i get warmed up by cooling down sammy hornsby sometimes in life you gotta grab the the sound by the horns be and wrestle it into submission nice thanks man nonsensical but hey last one of the day sammy horns the little demon that he is is gonna get what's left the crumbs of the improv sammy thank you so much for uh contributing to the this paranormal life patreon thank you so much to everyone who has contributed to this Paranormal Life Patreon. If you are yet to take that nosedive into the cement ocean, please, you know, consider it. There is some awesome bonus content out there and it helps us keep making the show, put more money into it for equipment and you know um online costs a lot of online costs we're into uh something called gambling william hill uh mostly william hill patty power patty

power sky bets yeah a lot of the stuff we're deep in the hole so i'm going under so please we're not good at it i would say absolutely not but we are paying um with the patreon funds we're able to pay very top tier gamblers to teach us um at great expense how to gamble effectively what's left is pennies right and we lose those in the bet yeah so bad teachers bad bets but not our money that's the great part so keep on giving and i think one day i think one day soon we're gonna hit the goddamn jackpot big and guess what you guys are shareholders in that success and actually someone hit us up this week saying that we actually missed their shout out a little while back the nerve of them so i apologize so i don't why whilst we are you should whilst we are getting to everyone um and we think we're

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