This Paranormal Life - #081 Ghosts on a Plane

Episode Date: October 2, 2018

The paranormal world is filled with a lot of questions - Why are we here? Are we alone in the universe? Why did everyone at the office celebrate Steve's birthday and not mine? Today we tackle one of the biggest questions out there - What happens when you die on a plane?Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What if the moon landing was a crop circle left by humans? If an apple a day keeps the doctor away, what happens when I get sick? Where's the doctor gone? All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life. Welcome everyone back to the podcast. It is a Tuesday, the spookiest day of the week. Too right. And my name is Rory Powers, your professional paranormal investigator for the day.

You've hired me at a very expensive rate. Right. So much so that you could only afford Kit Greer to accompany me. Yeah, we are the Yelp's lowest reviewed tutoring duo. We will teach your child GCcses a levels that kind of thing yeah granted none of our students have even passed most have had to go back three or four years to kind of special education schools because we have just racked their brain uh just just plundered it of all knowledge we we take what they know and move it to the side to make

room for what matters right every math lesson every geography lesson every spanish lesson starts with hola well only one of them start with that it's the spanish one the the rest of them start with billy putting down his textbooks and i go oh that's really good billy slam the book and i say you won't need that and i throw it out the window yeah billy says that was expensive i say i don't care money doesn't mean anything that billy is like listen i'm i'm fully on board with with your teaching method i do need to get my gcses though it is a legal requirement yeah and i go okay well that's really interesting oh can you just get out get the hell out grab billy to throw him out the window no not again um welcome to the podcast this is a paranormal podcast where every single week we investigate a brand new paranormal beast or legend or story and as professional investigators of the paranormal

we'll come to a conclusion as to whether or not it is true or it is false this week we have another listener submission wow great most of the time those listener submissions are just beyond garbage and we have to immediately throw them out the window along with billy's textbooks but today we've got one that we can cover on the book on the podcast a diamond in the rough a needle in the haystack. A gray among the humans. So, Alex Priestley, thank you for writing in. Thanks, Alex.

Thanks, Alex. We're happy to be able to help you sleep at night by fighting your paranormal demons for you. Alex writes, Hello, boys. I have a paranormal tale

for you to hashtag investigate. Cool. Now, her email is sort of the story. Yeah. Okay. So, this is getting right into the action okay cool i'm i'm ready alex says my mom used to be a stewardess for cafe kathy which i think is like an airline yeah uh in the 80s when i was young i remember going with her to meet a friend of hers that she used to work with we can call her jenny in brackets not for

privacy but i literally don't know how to spell her name so not even say it spell it i'm just gonna come out and say it's potentially not even human she could not even unpronounceable name it could be blogan it could be jim and alex is dyslexic oh We don't know what the answer is. Okay. It's not like he's from another planet and their name is really more of a feeling than of sound. Right. Yeah. It's fear.

It's the feeling of fear is her name. Right. Alex said, My mom asked Jenny why she had left Kathy. Apparently, she had loved her job and was a great stewardess. Okay. Hmm. That's a very unusual reason to leave a job. Yeah.

Normally. What are normal reasons to leave a job? Um, some of the, uh, mine? Tired. Too tired. Uh. Really? Tired as shit.

Really? Sleepy. Yeah. Stayed up too late. You told me. me woke up too early you yeah you're let's just pick one okay yeah you told me the last place that you left um you said there's a kind of like toxic work culture and and you felt like you weren't being respected for the work you were putting in very unsupportive of my flexible work hours oh okay what did you want to come in like early leave early kind of thing i wanted to come in and leave whenever the f**k i felt like it and they were very unsupportive really i'm pretty sure the definition of toxic is unemployment which they

handed me promptly yeah that's definitely that's extremely flexible you were asking for yeah what you were asking for was that's athletic that is yogic guru like flexibility that's all that's so little to ask um why have you been fired from job before or wanted to quit a job before yeah i um the last place i left um it was like we had a disagreement they say the customer's always right. My opinion is that the customer's always wrong. It was brutal honesty, actually, that led to me leaving. Did you get in a fight with a customer or something? To say the

least. Most days of the week, multiple days, multiple times in the day. That sounds like the most. It sounds like you're saying the most. Oh, the least? The least I can describe to you it's me front of house in a restaurant literally beating the chef to death with a lobster hot out of the pan still alive clawing his ears off was this even a restaurant most you say i didn't say anything you said the least i've got the general manager of a stationary company in a reverse armbar jujitsu style rolling across

the middle of the office space so it wasn't customers it was actually my own colleagues yeah it wasn't even verbal disagreements it was physical altercations it sounds like they wish you had flexible work hours there's a reason we're paranormal investigators that's that's the good thing is that intense paranormal experiences are our line of goddamn work so that doesn't scare us off anymore uh so alex to continue on with your email uh i have i have somewhat dramatized the retelling of her story okay yeah like like her copy was pretty good but you know just lacked a little bit a little bit of seasoning it was good for like a post on an internet forum we're taking it to new york times bestseller wow so here we go so one night jenny was working on board a long-haul flight. Everything was going well, minimal turbulence, pleasant passengers, nothing out of the ordinary.

Cool. Dream. Now on these longer flights, the cabin crew have to take their breaks in this cabin with bunk beds that are kind of out of sight. Right. Well, eventually it became time for Jenny to go on her break. So she walked over to the staff cabin to get ready to sit down and take a nice nap. But when she got to the crew's break cabin, she saw someone was already resting in the bed. But it wasn't a crew member, it was a passenger. Jesus, because someone's on the Ambien.

Someone's, you know, sleepwalking here. God damn it to hell. Passengers going into restricted areas on planes? Big no-no yeah that is not acceptable at all jenny is tired as hell and this area is completely off limits so she shakes the woman awake and goes excuse me madam i'm afraid this cabin is only for staff oh i'm so sorry i was feeling really unwell so i just wandered into here. I felt really claustrophobic, and like I couldn't breathe, so I came here to lie down. I'm sorry you're not feeling well, madam. Are you traveling with anyone?

Yes, I'm traveling with my husband, Mr. Smith. Do you know what seat he's in? I can ask him to come and collect you to take you back to your seat. Oh, yes. He's in, in um he's in 54e so jenny heads back into the passenger cabin finds 54e and says to the man sitting in the seat hello sir i'm afraid that your wife isn't feeling very well would you mind follow me to the staff cabin to collect her no you're uh you're mistaken puts his headphones back in oh off ma'am no sir i i've just spoken to her she'd like you to collect her um you must have the wrong seat this is very difficult for her at this point. Sir, this is E45.

Yes. Your name is Mr. Smith? Yes. You're traveling with your wife? Yes. It's all lighting up very well. But she's in a coffin. I'm taking her back to England for the burial.

What? Yeah. This is the man who is traveling with his dead wife in a coffin on the flight back to England. Holy shite. Obviously at this point, Jenny starts freaking out. She calls on the other staff members and they all head back down to the cabin with her. But when they get there they find that the bed that the lady had been lying in was perfectly made untouched they've got a zombie on the flight i do want to say it dude but did this zombie get out of bed make the bed again and go hide somewhere we need samuel jackson or something we've got a situation on a plane that needs sorted i just hope jenny was packing a glock nine mil i don't know what year this was so i don't

know what was the uh like the approach to guns on planes you know when you get on a really old plane and there's still like a cigarette butt holder in the middle of the and you're and they have to turn on the no smoking sign you know when you're like what kind of barbaric times were these you could get on a flight you spark up your cigar where people smoke cigarettes like animals that's open flame on a flight people probably like sharpening their knives storing their katanas in the overhead probably juggling their three kids above their heads and the kids are sharpening their katanas a family of ninja trainees on top of this now mr smith is freaking out he's like my wife is alive yeah you should not have told him about jenny you really put your foot in at

this point so once they had started to see why she had to leave the job once they landed they checked mrs smith's coffin and found everything was intact the lid still nailed down nothing disturbed good lord think about it mrs smith had spoken about feeling trapped, claustrophobic, like she couldn't breathe. After that, Jenny, who loved her job, decided to quit as she'd been so shaken up by the experience. Alex goes on to write, I have no reason to dispute her story as other people were involved. She could describe Mrs. Smith in detail to Mr. Smith, and she left her job because of the experience. That said, I obviously want some professional paranormal investigators to take a look at this you come to the right place exactly

we know how to contact them what are your thoughts kit this is a crazy story this is like something straight out of a horror movie this is like the first like five minutes there's a crazy revelation yeah um there's a lot to unpack here it definitely seems extremely paranormal on the face of it because we have jenny who supposedly has no interaction with um mr smith right or his wife a suspiciously blank name already but you seems to have tapped into some knowledge of the two of them um because the dialogue with this unknown shadowy figure in the bed it seems to suggest i'm claustrophobic that they are it relates to their current situation which is dead and in a coffin yeah that's pretty

that's as claustrophobic as it gets i think yes but at the same time you know when someone's like oh i don't know if i can get in the elevator there's a lot of people in there try being buried alive in the ground in a little box that's feet that's real fear this is me grass shaking them as they wait for the elevator like you're scaring me. You're like, oh, you could just take the stairs. You don't need to go in the lift. Oh, you think this is what it's really like to be scared?

Try being stabbed in the eye in a coffin. They're gone. They left. But not just that. Even more specifically, the fact that she's given the seat number to the man whose wife relates here so on that face very paranormal on the other hand it's seemingly kind of a mundane thing at the same time we don't know for sure who was in that bed if anyone and whenever her colleagues tried to verify this for her we didn didn't actually get any solid sort of second witnesses on that.

No, she was the only one that saw the woman laying there in the bed. Although that being said, I mean, listen to this dialogue. You know, after one conversation with this specter, this ghost, listen to this back and forth. Is this seat E45? Yes. Is your name Mr. Smith? Yes. You're traveling with your wife yes all of that

information was acquired by jenny talking to this figure how could she possess all of those facts about the man without indirectly getting them from a third party it's true i wanted to do a little research right because this was the first time i'd ever even heard of anything paranormal happening on a plane before you know it's not a it's not a prime spot for ghosts because when because when someone dies the whole the whole idea is that if their spirit remains on earth it's bound to the location where they perished we've certainly seen a lot of cases where that is true but if i learned learned anything from The Matrix Reloaded, it's that when humans go into ghost form, they fall out of vehicles. Like the ghost twins that have the white dreadlocks.

Whenever they are in a car and go into ghost mode, quote unquote ghost mode, I believe that's the technical term for it, they are removed from the vehicles. Also, that plane is, yeah, it's traveling like 500 miles per hour so if they're going to ghost mode out of it it's gonna happen pretty fast and then your soul is forever bound to a spot of air 33 000 feet in the sky which is a terrifying prospect if you ever go you know parachuting or something and you just run into a ghost at 20 000 feet he just pranks you he pulls your parachute too early that would be the scariest thing because obviously it's scary enough as it is you'd be going so fast as well that the ghost would have like go through you in like a second you'd be like all right everyone we're gonna get

it get ready to jump out of the plane remember your cord is on the left side so we're gonna pull after 15 seconds of free fall on my signal all right now uh james you're up first we're to get you over there are you feeling good buddy i'm i'm actually really scared, Trevor. Don't worry, buddy. You're going to do great. Okay. Three, two, get ready. One. And then out of nowhere, this figure traveling at 200 miles per hour is just, Help me. Right as you're pushed out of this moving plane. Because even as a ghost, you only get a second gap window to resolve whatever issue you had on earth yeah what if you had an

unbelievably complicated uh reason that you're still bound to earth and you can't be released into the afterlife exactly you're like i'm supposed to go see my family but i took a work flight in the plane trapped and i'll forever miss my family also you've scared that person so badly on their first parachute dive that they're gonna die they can't do anything for you they're a ghost oh christ um so i did a little research about ghosts and the paranormal on planes great and i did find another very popular story that was quite interesting so to set the scene a little backstory. On December 29th, 1972, Eastern Airline Flight 401 crashed into the Florida Everglades, tragically killing most of the people on board. Oh boy.

And was this because of ghosts on board the flight? No, it was the autopilot that resulted in a loss of altitude. That seems very realistic, yeah. But years later, an air stewardess named Jessica was stationed at an airport in Atlanta and was cleaning out an L-1011 airplane as it refueled at the airport. So she's cleaning up, you know, little bags of peanuts everywhere. People have been sick in the bags right shit on the walls i don't know it i don't know how messy planes get really as she

approached the lower gallery area of the aircraft she felt the temperature begin to drop this was strange because this is the summertime in atlanta no temperatures should be dropping ever really we're talking about some southern heat. She checked the fans over the passenger seats, but they were all turned off. So she continued down the craft. It got colder and colder, to the point of it being nearly frigid. Wow. Regardless, she kept moving down the plane.

Towards the end, she reached the kitchen, where she had to clean the inside of some of the ovens. So she scrubbed away in the cold kitchen of the airplane. She started to get this horrible feeling like someone else was with her. So she shook it off. The oven was looking pretty clean anyway, so she closed the door. And in that moment, caught a glimpse of her own reflection in the glass. Standing behind her was a man in uniform. It must be the captain, obviously, so she turns around.

Captain, I didn't know that... But there's no one there. Whoa. So she turns back to the oven door, and there he is again, a pale-faced man in uniform. In the reflection, standing behind her. That's awful. Terrifying, right?

It's scary enough if you see a ghost, but they're in your world. When you're seeing a ghost via a mirror, you cannot get at that bastard. Yeah. If you go headfirst into that mirror, and trust me, bro, I've tried. That shit smashes hard. There is no way that I have found yet to traverse between 150 CC and mirror mode. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's a bit like, you know, in the movies, you know, someone will be going down a dark corridor by torchlight.

Yeah. By candlelight. And just as they see the terrifying beast or ghost, the flame goes out. They're plunged into darkness. You're in the beast's world now, boy. Right, the dark. Yeah, you can't see shit, but you know he's there. Exactly.

And that's why, even if it's the dark, when the beast comes at you, you can touch him. You can feel him. You can try and find wherever his nuts are and punch them. You have a sense of security. Your last words as you're eating alive or he doesn't have any nuts there's no nuts but in the but if it's in a mirror even if you are literally being stalked by a giant testicle yeah you cannot punch it i repeat the mirror will shatter it doesn't doesn't matter how weak his entire body is how vulnerable it is how exposed

it is what you need to grasp is he's behind you he's not in front of you yeah so regardless of how hard you punch that mirror it's the wrong way do we know though that the captain wasn't in the oven my god i'm looking down at all of my notes had found an oven man heard from inside oven you just cracked his case wide open it's not to do with planes just the planes happen to have ovens that's also annoying that you smash the mirror you you know cut your hand you didn't hurt the guy and it's like seven years bad luck that's so true that's an insult literally an insult to injury are you um are you guys do you avoid the kind of typical bad luck causers the under the ladder the smash the mirror hell to the no no absolutely not i bask in it oh i smash as as many mirrors as feasibly possible as financially feasible

well like you spend a lot of money on it well what's your mirror budget i try to keep a cat you know i try to take care of the other things in life first this month uh 900 pounds but that's fair um they were very high quality mirrors uh i wanted to make sure that they counted uh in terms of curses so i didn't actually buy that many mirrors right yeah no i i'll like i'll um it's good as well because the ones that are probably definitely cursed are the cheapest oh really you know we're talking about that we're talking about dirty ass cob webbed up rusty in the corner mirrors okay they're probably recovered from like a house fire or something a lot of death surrounding it anything like that and just smack just smash

them up yeah i what i think is happening though because i've been doing it for a while and we've both been doing it for a while and in the beginning i noticed like really strong effects like in the beginning um my family disowned me i lost my job um really lots of i would fall down all the time hurt myself injure myself um lots of curse basic curse things happening for sure i feel like i've really plateaued i feel like my life might be as shit as it's going to get and that's why the curse isn't doing any worse you hit the rock buddy that's what they call the rock right it's when you you the the curses gave up that's actually awesome they're like this guy's so pathetic yeah and pitiful that

the curses start to feel bad for you wow yeah i smashed a mirror uh last week i'm on a free big mac finally i think they're giving it started throwing you a bone they're throwing me they're like we can't keep kicking this guy when he's down it's like a mcdonald's scratch card they the only work in terms of free burgers free drinks you know you're doing bad when the demons are rooting for you whenever you you know rub the genie's lamp and he's like, You know what? I'm gonna give you an extra wish on the heist. I feel like you need it. You know what? You can do that. You can do the loophole. Do the infinite wishes thing. You're the only mother f***er I've ever met who needs it.

You're the only piece of shit that's so low that I'm gonna give you infinite wishes. And I really think that you're so goddamn dumb that you won't actually do any damage with the things he ruffles your hair you're like now i wish i never found the lamp all right there you go you blew it i knew you would the genie's disappearing i warned you buddy i'm sorry he just can of helps some people. Such a funny idea. Chill genie. So Jessica sees the figure once more and screams. Great impression.

Thank you. I think you broke our microphone, but that's fine. Like a bolt of lightning, the figure behind her takes off running. Now panicking, Jessica ran down the plane and bumped into the head host. It took Jessica a while, but she told him everything about the cold, about the man. But the head host didn't seem surprised at all. In fact, he said, yeah, you'll see that from time to time. I wish you mentioned it in the job interview. This is ridiculous.

Jessica was confused. What are you talking about? Why are there ghosts on this plane? And that's when the head stewardess told her that a lot of the time, the materials and equipment used to build planes are recycled. And this plane was known for being built from the remains of East Airlines Flight 401. The Alvin. No. Close. Of the plane that crashed in the Florida Everglades. They are really cutting corners.

If they are recycling planes that have crashed. Like flaming rubble. If you were like an astronaut that, you know, you saw a test rocket go up and explode into a million pieces. Yeah. And you're like, wow. You saw a test rocket go up and explode into a million pieces. Yeah. And you're like, wow, well, I know I'm going up there next week, but at least that didn't happen when I was going. Jeez, hopefully they'll learn something from that.

And then whenever you're getting in your rocket and strapping you in, you're plugging in your seatbelt, and it looks a little charred around the edges. And you're like, did you guys? We think it was the landing gear that went on the last one. So we took everything else, pumped it into this one. You're good to go. Brand new shiny landing gear. Astronaut Charlie's silhouette is burned into the side of this paneling. This makes me very uncomfortable.

Sorry, we were meant to. Charles, you were supposed to scrub it off. There's like a skeleton fused with the metal on the ship like we tried and tried we could not get that thing out pointing to a message on the wall it wasn't the landing gear yeah it's like we had to recycle uh a lot of the parts from that last one just exploded in the sky it was structurally unsound because we we used a lot of old parts from another ship to build it listen people have said it before said it again the dirty secret of rocket science

is rocket scientists don't get in them that's the dirty secret so obviously at this point now i'm looking at two stories of ghostly apparitions involved with planes. The pieces of this spooky little puzzle are starting to come together. So what's the next step? I need physical evidence. I need pictures. I need video proof. I need witness testimonies on camera.

What have I told you, kid? That I got it. Well, all of these? No, not all of them. In fact, none of those. But I did get evidence of some kind. Okay. While I didn't get any video evidence of ghosts on a plane,

I did get video evidence of ghosts leaving a plane. What? That's right, Kit. A video went viral on august 2017 last year of someone who took a video of ghost passengers floating down the those little tubes that they uh used to get you out of planes i don't know what they're called right there was an actual video of these ghosts departing it looks like they're getting off of a plane but there's no plane there's no plane there weird exactly would you like to see a video i would actually yes all right okay this is uh this video is hosted on the sun which is fine i suppose so

this is the walkway that they attach to the planes oh Oh yeah, I see that. As you'll see, there are some sort of apparitions along the walkway. Right, on this little screenshot. So to people listening at home, this is one of the normal walkways that you would head down a little corridor tube to get to your flight. This one is mostly glass, so we've got a good amount of visibility through it. Now, as the video will reveal, just off to the side here, there is in fact no plane. Cool. Even though a whole gang of passengers are walking up this walkway.

Okay. All right, prepare to be amazed. All right, let's see it. They're walking unbelievably fast. They're just floating down this corridor. But their legs are moving, but we can't see their feet, so I guess they could be floating. And yeah, indeed, no... Look at that. No plane. legs are moving but we can't see their feet so i guess they could be floating and yeah indeed no look at that no no plane this is most unusual they're moving in a very odd way

don't really strange oh it is absolutely very strange and where was this this was it was a was a clip taken by a bangkok airwaysways pilot from the cockpit of his aircraft. I'm looking for a location. By a pilot? Interesting. This was an airport in southern Thailand called the Phuket International Airport. I think that's Phuket, buddy.

It's a PH. Phuket. How does that make it more like Phuket? Because Phuket isn't spelled with a PH. And obviously, if their attitude towards air travel is it, they're obviously not going to care about ghostly apparitions traversing their hallways. Yeah, it's I mean, yeah, it does seem like a crazy place just on based on this video alone. Exactly. So I've given you two cases.

Yes. You know, ghosts and the paranormal on planes. One plane in the sky one plane grounded and now ghosts exiting the vehicle kit where is your scrambled brain at where is your tiny little pea-sized brain located yeah i get it your tiny little nut where is your cash okay i was born with a tiny brain, but the doctor assured my mother at birth that it functions the same as a normal brain.

All right? Sorry. I didn't know it was such a sensitive thing. Yes, I forget most things most of the time, but could you repeat the question? I can't remember, brother. The one about the ghost on a plane. Is that what we

were talking about the whole time the whole time i did it's been what 40 minutes i've honestly been replaying nursery rhymes my head it was like i stopped learning at school you know what i mean after nursery rhymes that's not very far we'll do a recap ghosts on the first plane okay ghost on the first but i'm gonna repeat it so i remember it okay in the first part. I'm going to repeat it so I remember it. Okay. Ghosts on the merry day lit. That's a nursery rhyme. I know you're not. I have one immediate problem with these tales. Okay.

Because it is happening exclusively to airline staff, air host staff. Right. These are people who are by definition underslept, by definition overworked, by definition in very unnatural conditions. Underappreciated. Underappreciated. These are people who are working incredibly long hours. I mean, the first story, she's literally on her way to take a nap in the middle of a shift when the paranormal strikes now this could mean we know that sleep deprivation causes hallucinations causes weird experiences we've talked about in the podcast before i've been there we've all been

there is it possible that this was some kind of sleep deprived state that caused her to hallucinate it could be but then again the point i brought back at the start of the conversation how does she get these facts the seat number the name the man traveling with his wife it's true are there any more realistic other than paranormal solutions for how she could have got that information i don't think there's any explanation that she could have got it uh subconsciously that seems weird to assume you got it from a ghost and not realize that you got all of this quite detailed information from just talking to him previously. Yeah. Because also Mr. Smith would have been like, I told you this.

I told you that I had a wife. Yeah. Or I told you my name is Mr. Smith. The only thing I could think is, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if airlines had like an advance list for like security reasons for legal reasons that they would have a list of listen these are the important passengers on board we've got a guy who's transporting a coffin he's seated here if we need to contact him regarding the coffin or transport pretty high up on your list of priorities so there is a dead woman in the cargo yeah just so everyone knows i

wouldn't be surprised if there's some sort of list like this of of important information for that flight and they they scan over it with their eyes and maybe don't even think about it too much right maybe that information comes back later i'm just speculating i'm trying to think what could be more realistic than this woman floating her way out of her coffin into this bed and then retelling this story to an air hostess instead of going to see her living husband what do you think about case number two the ghost captain on the plane the reflection in the oven door using the recycled parts of the destroyed plane that was quite creepy again do we have a a subconscious phenomenon is it possible that that crash was on her mind that she was overworked overstretched and it's very easy to see faces

in places where they're not to be expected i mean this is a documented scientific effect that the human brain there's a name for it right? Yeah. I forget what it's called. I'm not the one to ask, brother. You have a peanut brain over here. Peridolia? Okay, Peridolia. Peridolia, Peridolia. It sounds like a delicious pasta dish from the southern Italy. It does. Hey, you want a Peridolia?

He puts it down, you just see eyes looking back at you. Big meatballs. Meatballs and a big old spaghetti smile why you don't order it if you not know it's a spooky dish that one's actually even harder to prove because in the first one at least the stewardess gained some information about someone via the specter this is just thinking that they saw someone in the reflection of an oven yeah in that respect the first case is a lot stronger because that is

always the hallmark of a solid paranormal scientific test is you know with remote viewing with fortune telling with all those things how can we gain information by paranormal means that would not be available otherwise exactly how do we find bin laden in the desert using only our minds the greatest question mankind has ever faced when we will face another day where are you coming down as a principal investigator in this case well as always on this show, you know, as much as we love the paranormal, we are obliged to give both sides of the potato. Interesting. So. Analogy.

The kind of round. But if you cut them, there's. Well, if you cut anything, I suppose. Oh, bread. Bread. Arguably more than anything else has two sides. They talk about it. Sure.

I guess. If you want to get technical with it. But like bread this really forcing a segue here like bread like any old slice of bread this story was a you don't have to use the analogy i started with the bread thing i'm gonna finish with the bread thing all right just give me a give me a goddamn second get off my back like bread yeah soon this story would be toast it's the best i'm gonna get it's not bad i'll give you that i'll give you that i started doing some more research into these stories specifically the one that alex emailed us as soon as i started trying to look into more paranormal stories involving ghosts and specters on planes,

a strange thing happened, which was Alex's story, her very personal story about a close friend, started popping up on a lot of websites. There were other templates for this story on at least six or seven other sites I went on to. Jenny swapped out for Mark. Mr. Smith is swapped out for Mrs. Adams. In one story, the husband was in a coffin and the wife was in the chair. This seems to be more or less a template for a ghost story

rather than a true testimony of a paranormal experience. And I bet if you took out the detail about the airplane and the seat numbers you could probably apply it to any other historical situation absolutely you know like shakespearean times and it was like a guy riding a coach not so futuristic um so as far as that story goes alex i'm sorry if i'm the one to burst your bubble here but this is a you know a very popular almost creepy pasta like story it's been tossed around the internet in the modern days did your uh mother's friend start that story we don't know she could be the the author of it and that would bring some authenticity to the case but until then that one is going to be a no from me. Okay. Second one, figure in the door. It's an interesting story.

And yes, that plane, the 401 or wherever it was, did crash. I found it hard to find any real facts on whether or not the parts are recycled. That sounds wrong and bad. That doesn't sound like that has ever happened. No. Planes are recycled from airline to airline. They are, you know, refurbished and reused but not if they crash and burn i don't think you don't want to reuse the parts of the plane that

didn't fly um so that one was a little harder to track down but then finally this video of these ghostly apparitions traversing the hallways of the f***ing international airport. I found this one actually a little harder to explain. And so did everyone in the comments here. To the point where we just had to kind of hypothesize and come up with our own theories. And you're a video guy. I am. Trained in video editing.

Is this something someone could fake? It's quite intricate. Well, the fact also that it was submitted by a pilot who works at that airport for an airline seems like there is no reason why he would fake it i think what we're seeing here is a unintentional optical illusion i believe even though we are seeing a walkway and people traveling down that walkway that doesn't lead to a plane i believe these figures are actually on a walkway behind this one right so we can still see them through the glass there is there is a funny viewing angle here where we can't see exactly what's going on across this whole a whole landing

strip and in terms of the as we both noted they're very odd and unusual movement i believe that's down to the fact that they are most likely walking on one of those airport conveyor belts that accelerate the speed because they are walking explain the floating it sure would explain the hustle yeah i just thought that's how they ran things and because they are it does kind of look like you know if you were at a walking pace on those things, because your footstep pattern isn't matching up with the distance you're walking, it does kind of look like you're floating down that hallway. So unfortunately, with my conclusion to all of these cases, it would seem that this week, ghosts on a plane is a no from me. I'm going to have to agree, brother. We don't have a tremendous amount of physical evidence.

The story has been flagged in the plagiarism detector, and we just don't have enough to go on to say that this is definitively, provably paranormal. Damn it. Damn it. Well, thank you anyway, Alex, for emailing in. Thanks, Alex. I actually had a blast researching ghosts on planes planes so if you have your own paranormal suggestion please email it in we

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what we'd like to do is reward you with a special shout-out from your two paranormal pals right here on the show. So let's get started. Thank you so much to Rob Hill. When you've taken all the money out of the people at the bottom, then you gotta rob the hill. That's where the fat cats at the top are. And Rob knows this.

Granted, in the early cats at the top are and rob knows this granted um in in the early days of the commune we did have the opportunity to uh you know pitch the first tent if you will and the hill actually looked pretty good really nice views up there it's a good hill um doesn't mean that we're rich or hoarding wealth or anything absolutely not uh the hill's just nice the hill's nice no monetary value to it at all not in the commune but elsewhere hill's just nice. The hill's nice. No monetary value to it at all. Not in the commune, but elsewhere, hill's a great place to fill your boots. Go Rob. Thank you also to Rosie Grinsell.

Rosie Grinsell will try in-cell us paranormal tracking equipment. But luckily we've got all the equipment that we need, a.k., aka my fists. That was kind of misleading because I cocked them. Yeah, because it's an audio medium. But yeah, you were cocking your fist. I've also got my heart.

Very misleading. As you understand the connection. Did you have heart surgery to replace it with the heart of a cock? No, I just eat a lot of beef. Oh. And finally, my gun. You got to know that's the wrong noise. What do you think that noise is, a gun?

When you cock it, cha-ching. You already cocked your hand. Sound effects aside, thank you so much, Rosie, for your support. Thank you also to Ethan Doherty. Ethan Doherty, the man with the property. That's right, when we were looking for a place to put up the paranormal flagpole, Ethan here was holding out all the best locations. Yeah, very unhelpful, actually.

I mean, we were a simple cult, Mune, of like-minded people. Could we have the Malibu Beach House? No, said Ethan. Could we have the San Francisco Penthouse Suite? No, said Ethan. I was starting to question whose side he was on. Yeah, and we refused to go to any other real estate agent. We refuse to go to anyone other than him.

And he was not very obliging. And honestly, him supporting us in Patreon seems like a weird power move to mess with us. Yeah, he's like, oh, sorry you didn't get the property, boys. Here's something for your shit little life's begging website. Begging website. But Ethan, as shameful as it is, we will bow down and accept that change from your billionaire's wallet thank you also to beth ridley beth fiddly ridley that's right she's famous for having having the tiniest mitts in the game that are best at the fiddliest tasks so in the commune

hopefully we can get you on board as some kind of bomb expert you know whenever they crack that thing open and need someone to fiddle around with those wires and cut them at the last second i tend to think you're the person for the job she could be a professional iphone sim card remover like one finger right in that little hole takes it out yeah fiddly riddley's got it out got the new one in it's unlocked now 20 gigs a month it's pretty great two ends of the extreme both very necessary going forward there's gonna be a lot of bombs and sim removal at the cult mute i can't i need to stop calling it that you really do because cult m moon's almost weirder than cult.

One's illegal. One's weird. Weird. But thanks, Beth. Thank you also. To Rachel Wood. Rachel Wood. The mighty oak that grows upward towards the skies.

Raining down little acorns. And tree nuts. I don't know what grows on trees. Rains down trees. Not trees. Rains down shit from trees. Acorns. Whatever it is. Down on us into the paranormal buckets.

And we're just trying to, like a mini game, like a Pokemon mini game. We're just trying to scoop up all the little tree eggs that she's dropping down. Like squirrels just stuffing them in our mouths for for later does that mean we are squandering these tree nuts does it mean i'm literally pissing away these nuts to an outsider yes absolutely or is it fuel to investigate the paranormal that's just kind of both yeah a little bit of both and thank you lastly but not leastly to chaya primich chaya primich or as we call him chaya quidditch do you know why we call him that kit i don't know because he's good at catching the snitch this guy can smell a golden snitch a mile

off when there's someone in your paranormal group leaking info to the mib cia fbi quidditch over there is zipping around on his mother's broom just going it was him and and clobbering them over the face yeah weirdly childish approach to getting it done but gets it done gets it done we've told him you don't need the broom you're not flying you're using your legs and it gives the gig away a bit a little a little bit yeah because when they entered the room they didn't know that quidditch the snitch finder was here but you were dressed as a wizard yeah and you've you know painted a lightning bolt onto your forehead unconventional but as we said gets the job done we appreciate that so thank you so much and thank you so much to everyone that has contributed to the this paranormal life patreon again if you're a first timer do consider it there's lots of cool

rewards and bonus content there for you to snatch up i hope you enjoyed this episode of this paranormal life make sure to tune in next week for a brand new paranormal tale and always remember to live fast investigate and die young, baby.