This Paranormal Life - #084 The Cash-Landrum UFO Incident - Part 2
Episode Date: October 23, 2018On this weeks episode we finally come to a conclusion in the Cash-Landrum UFO investigation. Was it a UFO? A secret nuclear powered government weapon? Let's #INVESTIGATESupport us on Patreon.com/ThisP...aranormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Vicky ran out to see what the commotion was, and there was Betty, standing in the kitchen, holding clumps of her own hair.
Oh no.
Not only was there no sandwich, we do not have a fridge that you can even keep a sandwich in, so what you are saying is categorically untrue.
There is a planet out there where every day it rains glass sideways.
You are exposing children to these days to magic are you crazy mad welcome
back to part two of the cash landrum ufo incident if you haven't listened to part one yet definitely
go back and listen to part one uh because a lot of this and this stuff we're going to be saying
uh isn't going to make any sense um usually we do introductions let's speed through that i'm
roy powers this is uh kit greer that's right paranormal investigators oh yeah we're
investigating the paranormal that's right now for those who are here and ready to tackle part two
let's do a quick recap okay one night betty vicky and seven-year-old colby were driving home when
they spotted a giant glowing diamond in the sky. That's right.
This diamond emanated incredible heat.
After standing outside the car, staring at it,
the craft was chased away by a horde of military Chinook helicopters.
They thought it was Jesus initially, later decided that wasn't the case.
When the radiation kicked in, they thought it probably wasn't him.
He didn't talk a lot about that in the Bible. When the gang got home, they all fell violently ill,
vomiting, swelling, losing hair, and Betty had to be even rushed to the hospital. Doctors said they had severe radiation poisoning, but when Betty and Vicky tried to explain to police and military
what had happened, no one would believe them. The military even denied having any Chinook
helicopter stationed nearby, despite the fact that in the following months, multiple witnesses no one would believe them. The military even denied having any tunic helicopters stationed
nearby despite the fact that in the following months multiple witnesses came forward claiming
they had also seen the same thing. That's what we call a corroboration of evidence in the biz.
I don't know if that's true but it sounds right. We call a grade a f**k up. someone misspoke and the truth shined through that is the story as it goes so far that's
what the military call a clusterfuck and what paranormal investigators call a gold mine
or was it your watch actually i just got this thing i don't know how to mute the bish
really jesus all right hold on i mean it's a casio so i don't even know
how it's making that much noise it's also a calculator i'll have you know so don't diminish
it because it's actually with the technology in this yeah we could go to the moon or something
like that people like to say that yeah i don't think with that specifically though we will we
i could calculate how many moons there are okay go zero times one so zero
we look up in the night sky no moon i've managed to put it on theater mode i think that does
something so what okay just ignore it all right put it on theater mode it starts from beginning
to end reciting the script and songs of cats the musical all right let's let's
push on with this story okay please after the incident had happened we heard that vicky called
the national ufo reporting sector in seattle this was the telephone call that we heard in the last
episode now these are the kind of folks who have your back they contacted the aerial phenomena
research association these these organizations have named
so long yeah you know you can trust them they sent out a bunch of investigators to the town
to take a look at the case now these investigators did everything they talked to betty vicky colby
also all the other witnesses who claimed they had seen something that night. And they came to the conclusion that everyone was telling the truth.
No one had any re...
I'm sorry, I can see a smile on your face.
No, no, no.
It's just, I'm only smiling because, look,
it's hard to get into paranormal Harvard.
You know, I know that, you know that.
It took a lot.
It took a lot of blood, sweat, tears,
stolen money, stolen cars.
Stolen watches.
We got in there.
And the education standard is very, very very very high unfortunately the same cannot be said for other paranormal colleges so you know
sometimes these guys now my sorry yeah it's kind of distracting my watch is blasting music right
now i didn't i don't know how it's possible because that thing is rusted up it is obviously
from the 80s this is where is the love
by black ips and this this watch really predates that whole music generation yeah that's really
confusing uh what do you think smash it i think okay let's just like all right well it's fine now
okay all right um let's hope you were saying paranormal harvard yeah but some of these
paranormal investigators didn't get the same stellar education that we did.
You know, listen, some of these guys, I don't want to doubt their motives,
but maybe they're going into these cases.
You know, they're looking for that case that's going to put their name up in lights.
They're looking for that case that's going to be the cash card.
They're looking for that case.
So, you know, they're going in there with that bias.
So, you know, I'm just saying maybe that's why they thought everyone
was telling the truth it's true you know you're an investigator of the paranormal you've been
brought on this big new hot case so you know what are you gonna do are you gonna show up there or
maybe do you twist it is that my goddamn watch holy shit that is the mexican hat dance why would
a watch need to play that?
No, it's just doing like an air raid siren.
Should we be worried?
I have no idea.
Again, I don't know how old this thing is.
All right.
It's going under the mattress.
Well, that'll do it.
Okay.
It actually did it.
It did.
Yeah, it's gone.
Interesting.
So I get what you mean.
We have to be careful when it comes to the word of paranormal investigators
right sometimes sometimes not us though trust us now as time passed betty's health slowly recovered
but there were a lot of other effects from the encounter that never did betty and vicky were
mocked around town i'm sorry pride i'm sorry more than anything their pride was damaged yes betty's skin
returned her hair regrew but the embarrassment of thinking jesus came back to earth would haunt
little colby forever you i mean is that a laughing matter to you sir let me recite a little nursery
rhyme for you all right bed is on fire i'll tell you that right now sticks and stones may hurt my bones but words f***ing scar me yes you said that yes the radiation has faded
yes the scars are gone but words words hurt forever yeah yes the radiation has faded but
people are calling them crazy they're mocked around town yeah colby's injuries meant he had to temporarily drop out of school oh yeah i'm sure
and doctors diagnosed him with ptsd wow a pretty terrible stress day the family was suffering sorry
that's not what the family were suffering but at the same time there was nothing they could do
months later in april 1981 colby was outside in the fresh springtime air when all of a sudden he heard a rumbling noise
in the distance. At this point he is crapping his pants. He is sweating. He is looking around. The
last time he heard a rumbling. It wasn't Jesus. It wasn't good. It was not Jesus. He stood there
looking around for the source of the sound and that's when when he noticed, in the sky, a speck on the horizon,
getting closer and closer.
No.
Colby began to panic and ran inside to get Vicky.
Brrrah! Vicky!
By the time they got back outside,
the speck was close enough to make out in clear view.
It was a CH-47 Chinook helicopter!
Whoa! The exact same helicopters that had been seen that night with the nuclear diamond listen i've got a question to ask the listeners at home all right
when was the last time you saw a helicopter a chinook helicopter when the rarest goddamn
pokemon of the helicopter breeds right i don't know if it's pokemon but yeah exactly i think i've seen more blackhawk helicopters in my life than i have
chinook i don't think i've ever seen a chinook helicopter in my life especially this is this
is especially important because the government denied they had any chinook helicopters stationed
nearby that's right so what is one doing flying over becky and Vicky and Colby's houses?
Someone's telling lies.
And you said this thing has got double propellers, one each side.
This isn't some hobbyist learning to fly a helicopter.
No, you know this thing.
This is like some Zero Dark Thirty deployment in Chirac sort of shit. You know, this is a kind of movie scene,
Mission Impossible,
back of the helicopter,
hangar door hanging open,
fist fight in the back.
You know, you're punching the villain's face
on the edge of the helicopter
at 10,000 feet.
None of this was happening,
but I appreciate,
I know what's going on
in your head.
I just want to set the scene.
Okay.
Well, obviously,
Vicky and colby
are excited they run to the car and take off in the direction of the helicopter waiting to see
where it lands vicky said because colby was so upset even at just the sight of the helicopter
that she wanted to reach it on the ground to show him there was nothing to be afraid of that's a
dangerous game to be playing well i guess I guess if... Fallen around.
If the kids... Classified.
Because you know that that helicopter...
Listen, they said it doesn't exist.
You're getting very excited.
That means it ain't supposed to exist.
Yeah.
So, if it...
I mean, look.
I know where the story goes.
So, if I'm trying to steer you off the path that you're on.
There could be greys.
MIBs at the very least.
I wouldn't hype up.
Maybe ghouls.
Hell, maybe the second coming of Christ himself.
Again, I know what's happening.
So don't get the audience's excitement up too much
or else my story is going to be disappointing.
It's going to be a piece of shit.
It's time to get riled up, everyone. We are reaching the grand climax of this week's episode.
There's so much more to go. Hold on to your ass cheeks, ladies and gentlemen. It's about to get
crazy. All right. You're clearly not going to give up, so I'm just going to have to power on.
To their surprise, when they reached the area where their chinook helicopter had landed
there was a small crowd it turns out the helicopter was part of some sort of air show
where people could watch the planes and the helicopters and the kids had the opportunity
to talk to the pilots i uh yeah i so i see now i got a little over excited it was it really had
not this is such a minor part of the story.
Any grace?
No, there were no grace.
Tom Cruise?
At one point you mentioned ghouls.
I don't know why you thought they would be in the helicopter, but there weren't any of those.
It was probably nighttime though.
There could have been ghouls.
It was day.
It was bright day.
I actually said springtime air at the start of the sentence.
So just kind of.
Mamo said I had an overactive imagination.
And look where I got me. All right, this is getting sad so let's just keep keep going with the uh the old podcast here vicky and colby headed over to the
chinook helicopter there was already a small crowd so they stood at the back waiting for the pilot to
finish talking to the small crowd of children all right kids, this here is a Chinook CH helicopter.
It's got two rotary blades instead of your regular one rotary blade.
How many of you kids would ever dream of becoming a pilot when you grow up?
Me, me, me!
I bet you would.
While the pilot is talking to the kids, Vicky says,
See Colby, it's just a helicopter flown by a regular man.
Ain't nothing to be afraid of.
Let me see. How many of you kids have divorced parents?
All of us.
All right, that's a good ratio. Where's dad? Is he out of the picture or is he still around?
The pilot is still talking to these kids about flying helicopters. He's trying to impress them.
When all of a sudden, one of the kids asks him about visiting the town.
The pilot replied,
Well, I've actually been here before.
A while back, we were in Huffman checking out a UFO.
Vicky is speechless.
This man, even though it was kind of jokingly said,
claimed he had been investigating a UFO in a Chinook helicopter
around the exact same time Betty and Vicky had seen the diamond.
How many Chinook pilots are there, after all?
That's what I want to know.
More than 23? Can't be many more.
Vicky waited nervously for the crowd to dispense.
When the kids were gone, she approached the pilot.
Hello, ma'am. What can I do for you? He said.
I'm so glad you're here. I was there that
night. Uh, what night?
I saw it. The UFO.
It burned me.
Quickly, the mood of the pilot
turned sour. He refused
to talk to her or Colby any
further and hustled them out of the aircraft.
So, her plan
of trying to chill colby out and make
him used to being around helicopters completely backfired well it didn't help that she brought
this kid who was clearly suffering to the pilot was like he's just a regular man nothing to be
afraid of and the pilot's like let me tell you about the time a ufo melted a woman's face he's like i damn near lost all my fingers holds up
yeah definitely uh she you know brought him there with the best intentions yes unfortunately
it turns out this is just another step in the story that never ends oh my god it's like
some sort of never-ending story. But instead of that big,
fluffy piece of shit,
what was his name?
Kirby?
No.
Falcor?
Falcor!
Instead of Falcor,
you got a Chinook helicopter
chasing down a nuclear diamond.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
I mean, what were the chances
of her tracking down this man
and then him just letting slip?
He should not be working
in any sort of governmental secret
service capacity which he obviously is i think it's one of those things he obviously was talking
to a group of kids he was lured into a false sense of security he thought he could just say
innocent eyes but they had little notepads i i saw them they had little like honestly there's
little audio recorders oh yeah kids are you think those kids aren't
russian and chinese spies they're all just doing that thing where they're on their knees where
their knees are on their shoes all right so as you can uh tell this is a chinook helicopter which
means instead of one blade there are actually two blades keeping the vehicle afloat and then just
one kid from the crowd tell us more about the American nuclear protocols.
All right.
Well, we'll get on to that eventually.
Who wants to touch the steering wheel?
None of us want to touch the wheel.
What year did you boys say you were in?
I have to go.
Mother Russia's mother is calling.
Crawls away.
The shoes are gone.
His legs are poking out the back.
Massive beard as well.
So they continue to question the military. They continue to talk to people in the town but everyone is still ignoring
their story betty and vicky felt helpless but as the old american saying goes if you can't beat them
sue them in august of 1981 betty cash and vicky Landrum hired an attorney named Peter Gersten to seek financial compensation for their injuries.
You know Peter Gersten. He's the hottest in the biz. He specializes in UFO cases.
He's nuclear hot. You get radiation just by standing next to Peter.
standing next to peter the case wound its way through the u.s courts for several years with cash and landrum trying to sue the u.s government for 20 million u.s dollars holy shnikes i guess
aim for the sky right and then if it gets whittled down to like a free subway it's like well i guess
i thought something what is it they say shoot for the moon land amongst the chinook helicopters that's what the old saying so when it came to the case they had evidence that they had been
affected by some radioactive machine that night yeah they had other witness testimonies claiming
they had seen chinook helicopters that night and other witnesses claiming they heard the helicopter
pilot mention a ufo to kids. That is insane.
Is this the first time we've ever had evidence from a paranormal case
actually brought to a court of law?
I think it is.
This is one of the, if not maybe the only, major court case
brought against the US government in regards to a paranormal encounter.
Wow.
But there was one problem.
And this problem, unfortunately, would mean the end of this story.
Even if all of this was true, the radiation, the vehicles, all the witnesses, the plaintiffs
Cash and Landrum had claimed that there were no markings on the Chinook helicopters, which
means there was no way to legally prove that
they were associated with the US government.
Really?
Yeah.
On August 21st, 1986, a US District Court judge dismissed their case.
It was over.
This is some bullshit!
Justice was not served that day.
We didn't believe that whenever they send those Chinook helicopters out on a UFO chase,
that they're going to just have a big old dumb American flag just plaster on there.
Splapped on it.
No, they're going to pull over the drapes, pull the literal wool over the flags.
Hey, you're preaching to the converted here, brother.
This is some shit.
I'm on your side with this one.
But unfortunately, you know, it's the innocent until proven guilty.
Even if all this stuff did happen,
as long as there is no way to directly prove that the U.S. military are responsible,
there's no way to get compensation out of them.
The U.S. military denied ever having seen a Diamond Craft.
They denied still having Chinook helicopters stationed at air bases around
that time lots of denial i feel like taking the government to court is an inherently flawed
process i feel like they're biased that way is that case really gonna end and then no sooner
does the judge smacked on the gavel, guilty? Does someone just come along and just put handcuffs on him
and take him away?
How do you arrest the law?
That's what I want to know.
I don't think it happens.
That should be a takeaway from this question.
Who watches the watchmen?
That's why in the commune,
there will not be any watchmen to have to be watched.
No.
That's right.
There will be no sentries, no lookouts,
no police of any kind
but there's also no crime because we're all crucially we're all chill af so moving on
cash died at the age of 71 on december 29th 1998 so years later wow landrum died september 12th 2017 oh my god no god that's so wrong 2007 okay that is so that's way too recent
yeah 2007 yeah and colby still to this day continues to tell people about what happened
that night seeking revenge like some sort of paranormal batman that's really unbelievable
so we do have someone alive today who was witnessed
there at the original close encounter of the first kind so now that the story has reached a full stop
it's time to look back at this case when i look back at it i only see two explanations kit the
first that this diamond craft was otherworldly. Right. And the government had to lie about its existence to protect the public.
This explanation is so possible that it should scare you.
It should come as no surprise to people
that the US government and UFOs have a pretty long and intimate relationship.
Right.
In 1952, a little thing called Project Blue Book.
Ever heard of it?
No.
Oh, well, it was the name given to a huge study
launched by the U.S. Air Force to investigate UFO sightings.
Okay.
The scientific advisor to the project was a man named Dr. Alan Hynek.
Just listen to this short clip.
In 1966, congressional hearings were held with Secretary of Defense Harold Brown
and scientific advisor of Project Blue Book, Dr. J. Alan Hynek.
None of the evidence that I have examined would indicate any proof at all that we are being
visited by extraterrestrials. Dr. J. Allen Hynek is one of the most important
figures in this matter. As a senior government representative, he faithfully continued to dismiss
all UFO sightings as swamp gas, mass hallucinations, temperature inversions, and conventional aircraft
until Blue Book was terminated in 1969. However, four years later, he founded the Center for UFO Studies, which is still
active today. In 1985, shortly before his death, he revealed that Project Blue Book
had indeed misled the public.
I was there at Blue Book, and I know the job they had. They were told not to excite the public, don't rock the boat. And I saw it in my own eyes happen
that whenever a case happened that they could explain, which is quite a few, they made point
of that and let that out to the media. Things that, the cases that were very difficult to
explain, they would jump handsprings to keep the media away from them.
For they had a job to do, whether rightfully or wrongly, to keep the public from getting excited.
Thank you. Thank you. I mean, you can say that this is not high quality paranormal investigating.
I'm getting clips from an old ass man.
I've got testimonies.
This is some good stuff.
Great A.
You can pat yourself on the back if you like, but that's done.
Wow.
That's pretty fascinating.
That is a very plausible version of events.
What he's saying is he isn't coming out as one of these
you know tenor penny x nasa guys and just saying um yeah i know i know i know i know i uh was a
regular suit and tie guy while i was at nasa but now that i'm free i can say categorically without exception that i ate lunch with greys every
wednesday they were chill we hung out they come to earth all the time this guy is just saying
something very plausible which is that listen yes there are organizations in place for the
detection of ufos the study of ufos but what is their mission what is their
guiding principle the guiding principle is is gonna be to not disclose dangerous unusual
information exactly it's gonna be to um temper expectations and this means playing down evidence
even when some of the explanations that they're giving are just not
plausible they're talking about swamp gas exactly now think about this think about what happened
to betty and vicky imagine the organization that was looking after this diamond was a had a very
similar approach to the situation as project blue book so when the public are exposed to it they're
gonna deny it they're gonna bury the story they're not gonna disclose any information
this is something that happened in the past which means it can be happening now well said
perfect sentence it can be happening now so that's explanation number one right we do also have explanation
number two that this object was not otherworldly that this is a piece of experimental government
equipment all right listen people right now as we speak the u.s government has a gun that will turn you to glass they have a bomb that will turn
air into bees whatever weapon that you think does not exist yet yeah they have five of them
stationed in countries across the world let's think about this craft this diamond you brought
it up in the first episode when we hear stories about ufos everyone says like there
was no noise it just hovered there and then it like took off in an instance yeah the description
of this diamond is very much based within the confines of our reality it's got some sort of
combustion engine it's shooting flames down to keep afloat It truly shined bright like a diamond with flames. I know
what you're saying this is like because we're so used to the idea of alien
technology being unfathomable beyond all expectations beyond imagination itself
that this seems by comparison like a steampunk UFO that it runs on Victorian
sort of fuels.
Absolutely, yeah.
Now, when we look at the diamond, it had a fiery engine,
a byproduct of which was a bomb's worth of radiation.
So naturally, what I started doing was looking at the US government's history
experimenting with nuclear engines.
Because, you know, around time of the the wars and the
nuclear bomb testing yep there was this whole idea that essentially nuclear power was the future
it was in like 20 years going to be powering the globe everyone had this idea about nuclear energy
that it was this clean pure energy they couldn't have been further from the truth yes
and it wasn't long into this investigation that i came across something called project pluto which
was a government program to develop nuclear powered engines now granted this was in 1964
and the cash landrum case was in 1980, so 16 years later.
But does that mean the two aren't connected?
It's totally possible.
Could it be that in those 16 years, Kit,
there was enough time to create a nuclear engine
fit for a diamond-shaped craft?
It's entirely possible.
Listen, the 60s were a busy time. u.s had a lot on his plate you know
going to war all of that didn't have time to deploy nuclear arsenals hell no in wartime so
uh it's entirely possible that it took them a little while getting around to this and they
eventually created a nuclear engine do we know what did anything officially for the record come
out of project pluto uh yeah somewhat there were two test launches where they experimented with i
think sort of like ballistic missiles but the uh propulsion for those would be done through a
nuclear engine so there were two tests done
before the project was quote-unquote shut down for being quote-unquote too radioactive and for
unsafe working conditions and everyone quote-unquote died slowly as far as i know
the launch of those missiles went fine they went well like it worked as far as missile
launches go yeah and as far as there's anything i know about the u.s government they don't shut
down working programs could you imagine if uh king arthur was at his weapons store one day
ah men that i keep in the basement uh what new weapons have you been
dreaming up for me recently oh good to see you sire blessings upon you get on with it well
i may i kiss your rings oh god right to the kisser oh why did I invent the whip? I've been working on new types of weapons to advance your iron reign.
Oh, fantastic.
I know that the bow and arrow has been a pop crowd favorite among your people.
I do love the bow shooting poor people all day long.
And of course we have the beloved sword and shield.
Hold out your arm,
will you, Arnold?
Please, not now, sir.
But we're working on
a new type of weaponry.
Experimental weaponry.
New experimental.
I've invented
this new type of weaponry.
A brand new weapon called
the assault rifle.
Not sure, to be honest. Which... Right, well well i haven't even told you what it does yet the name's not great though is it
well it's it's all right sir it assaults people and it's a rifle what does it do then go on well
you put bullets in it what's a bullet though all right you put arrows in the barrel i understand now yeah yeah good and you
pull the string sir you pull the string got it and it fires the arrows well how's that better
than a bow and arrow though it fires them quicker it can go through armor if i'm going hunting why
do i need anything more than a bow and arrow if i need more bows and arrows i'll get another guy with a bow and arrow i've got a f***ing army of bows
and arrows what do i need you could have an army of people with machine guns to kill thousands of
you to be honest take that assault rifle pulls out a taser but why have you got that that's even
more modern than a gun takes it a glock nine
millimeter the point is king arthur didn't stop right at the bow and arrow he made the rifles
and had someone come along with a darpa drone that could unload 2 000 rounds in half a second
he would have used it of course now if this explanation was true and the
military had developed some sort of nuclear powered craft yes i need to find out what this thing was
all right so i looked online to see what other investigators thought the craft could be
that's when i noticed one user say i may be wrong but it actually reminds me of a Lockheed Martin's
multiple kill vehicle.
Obviously,
I had to know what this was.
So I looked up a video
of a Lockheed Martin's MKV.
Now this is an actual piece
of military equipment
that exists.
And it's not even secret.
This video's got like
a million views.
Oh yeah, it's on YouTube.
You can check this out.
A lot of the good like to dislike ratio as well.
This is a T08 hover test.
This is December 2008.
This video is very low res for 2008.
Oh my god.
Are those bullets?
I think that is some sort of jet propulsion.
It's not firing bullets.
That is to...
Oh, that's keeping it going.
Keeping it in the right directions.
Jesus Christ.
I think it just takes off again here.
Oh my God.
Now, people listening at home,
what we're essentially seeing here is a kind of small metal device yes similar to the size
of it's essentially drone sized it's a drone size yeah but in the way the drones function by fans
yes to lift it off the ground this is a looks like a rocket propelled drone rocket propelled
drone using rockets on the sides of it to keep it positioned and moving in the
right direction yeah once you see how many just how many rockets this has you'll realize how
complex it is to just keep something in the air and straight yeah now it's called a multiple kill
vehicle which sounds very intimidating yes a little less intimidating when you realize that the purpose of this device
is to actually intercept uh intercontinental missiles oh so the killing is like the
neutralization of the missiles that is what they would say though isn't it yeah to get it made
get it out the door because first they were like the multiple human killing missile and they were
like you can't say that.
And then, you know, once you order and it comes to your house in a big old package,
there's a little note inside the package.
It's like, by the way, they'll flick the switch and it'll go mental.
Lock the doors and let it go mental.
Mental mode.
It's like demo mode on a keyboard.
Now imagine this device.
Yeah.
300 times bigger.
Scaled up.
In the shape of a diamond.
I mean, she didn't like specifically say exactly how big the thing was, did she? I think she said it was bigger than the car.
Yeah, bigger than the car.
Yeah.
So it doesn't even feasibly have to be that big.
I mean, from this video alone, we've seen that.
I mean, that could exist.
Something like that absolutely could exist.
But one problem, I guarantee that thing's not nuclear in any way.
Oh, it is absolutely not nuclear.
But does that not mean that the legacy of Project Pluto hasn't gone on to develop such equipment.
I mean, if you mash this multiple kill vehicle together with Project Pluto, bam, you have a nuclear engine powered kill machine.
Wow.
This is really muddying the waters.
There's a lot of different ways this could go.
There is.
I mean, two, the way that you outlined, the two different ways.
Two paths.
Both pretty damn paranormal, to be honest.
And these paths are where we end this week's episode.
It's time for conclusions.
We're at a crossroads, people.
Which path do we go down?
Do we go down A, this is an otherworldly craft with a nuclear engine melting humans.
Or B. This is a government-created craft with a nuclear engine,
and it's a top-secret operation of some kind.
Or I guess C. It's a tiny path. You can barely see it.
And it's that none of this was real. It was made up.
It's not paranormal.
Yeah.
We don't have to look at that one.
Don't even think about that one.
This is just about the hardest decision
I've ever had to make in this podcast.
You're really thinking about this.
I appreciate that.
Especially because sometimes when you've hosted the show,
I've said no during your conclusion.
You say sometimes as if it wasn't all the time you know we've had a bunch of evidence on this one pretty much unprecedented levels of evidence
to do with this case between the court case itself the physical injuries endured by the
witnesses what we've come down to is a classic trade-off between was this otherworldly and or was
it just secret a long time ago anything that was unknown was pure mystery anything that was unknown
was definitively paranormal but today we have this shadowy tier of society you know that is
the military industrial complex and so on where things are kept from view
the glass gun the b-bomb they have it all and so i don't we can never be sure whether something is
truly unknown or whether it is just being held from view exactly it has been said though that
in previous decades the military always had the most advanced
technology there are always a few steps ahead you know all that technology that went into putting
man on the moon you know eventually later as you say filtered all the way down to your crappy
exploded uh watch under the mattress there it's true but it took a long time and no one else in
the world had access at that time computers weren't around took a long time for that to filter down but in the last
few decades that dynamic has completely shifted where the most advanced technologies are almost
consumer technologies i guess what i'm trying to say is that we haven't seen anything since this story that really fits the description
of what was seen that night. And hell,
maybe I want to believe, but this case just isn't making any sense to me,
which is why I ain't buying it. I ain't buying that this is some military testing.
This is just some run-of-the-mill weapons test this is
just a couple couple army men running about in a field shooting each other this is something
completely different and these witnesses have the scars to prove it that's why this week on this
paranormal life i am saying this is a yes this is ufos this is normal we gotta march people we need to rally up and get
the people behind this old old event yes listen brother i'm right there with you it is so rare
that we get a ufo case like this with so much evidence the radioactivity, the multiple witnesses. You know, even to have a case that is so well documented and proven that it can even reach the US court.
Good God.
Is incredibly impressive.
And of course it was thrown out in disgrace.
Yeah.
But what good case isn't?
You think the judge is going to gavel himself?
No.
judge is gonna gavel himself no and whether or not this was an otherworldly craft or whether or not this was some insane nuclear powered military experiment i believe both of those roads still
lead to paranormal town meaning this case is a yes from me too it is paranormal christ i'm feeling fired up i'm feeling fired up i want to fight
i want to fight whoa it has been a while since we have had a double yes on this podcast
i'm glad you know guys we love doing the fun ones we love doing the uh the little jokey ones
have a little laugh we call those the kit ones now and again, it's always fun to investigate these hardcore stories.
That's right.
And hopefully bring some serious paranormal facts to anyone who is still listening at this point.
This is what it's all about, people.
This is what you guys come for.
This is what you guys tune in for.
You're punching yourself really hard.
It hurts, but I feel alive.
What can I say so thank
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And as always, at the end of the show, we'd like to give a special thanks to everyone who has supported us on Patreon so far. So,
a very special thank you to
George Threadgold.
George
only threads gold. No silver
for George.
That's because he's a winner. He comes number
one every day in his life. Every
opportunity. Brushing
his teeth first thing in the morning? Number one.
Did it faster than anyone.
One second.
Oof, done.
It's kind of bad, actually.
Breakfast.
Ba-ba-ba-boom, done.
Ichiban.
Skipped it.
That's how quick he was.
He's actually off to a pretty bad start to the day.
Yeah, he skips most things to save time.
Yeah.
But that's what makes him a champion.
He's in bed by 10 a.m.
We're in awe, honestly, George.
So thank you.
Well done.
For supporting.
Thank you also to Miss Believer.
Miss Believer was a disbeliever
till she started listening to this paranormal life
where we convert idiots into smarts.
You know how people say,
oh yeah, there's book smarts and there's street smarts.
What happens when you read your book on the streets?
What happens when you read a book called The streets what happens when you read a book called the streets have you read that book it doesn't sound like it i don't read yeah i didn't think so it takes up too much of my you're just the streets
i'm just the streets okay because i don't have time for the book part yeah but misbeliever has
time for everything and that's why she is smarter than both of us combined.
Thanks, Miss Believer.
Thank you also to Ryan Harold.
Wow, if it isn't Ryan Barreled Harold,
the first man to ever chuck himself off Niagara Falls
in a goddamn barrel and live to pledge on Patreon.
Truly a paranormal feat.
Truly a paranormal man. I don't think he can really
move anymore he doesn't need to with a click of a button patreon can can take your money he made
so much money with that one act that he has been a a a patron of paranormal causes all around the world ever since. So thank you.
Thank you also to Talon Diaz. There's no Talon what Diaz gets up to at the weekend.
That crazy son of a bitch.
Last I heard, he got chucked in the slammer
out in the wilderness of Australia somewhere.
This was true.
Next thing he knew, he was, I think I heard he was like,
I don't know, traveling around, selling acid in car parks, concerts. Life has not been kind to him.
It started off cool and then it got weird.
Talon Diaz got kicked in Diaz by life.
But he still sells enough drugs to be able to support his paranormal pals.
And we'll take that drug money.
We are not proud men.
No.
No.
So thanks for doing the dirty work for us, Talon.
Thank you also to Andrew Nedelka.
Andrew, did you know that nettles can sting you?
Do they have nettles everywhere in the world,
or is it like a UK thing?
Yeah, probably a lot of places.
I feel like it's quite a UK thing, though. Listen, nettles were in the world or is it like a uk thing yeah probably a lot of places i feel like
it's quite a uk thing though listen nettles were planted here by aliens to keep humans in check
just when you think you are safe in the embrace of mother nature turns out mother nature stings
like a bitch yeah and you learn that pretty early on in life. You know, you're frolicking around the garden, enjoying all that life
has to offer. And then,
just like Adam and Eve fell from
grace by picking a poison
apple, uh... You tried to chomp
down on a nettle. I heard
it made great tea.
So, Andrew,
beware the nettles. That's all
I'll say, brother. Thanks also
to Dave Marshall. Dave
Marshall is partial to a bit of the
paranormal, and I appreciate that.
A man after my own heart.
Well, Dave, you got two yeses this week.
Yes to the podcast, and yes
to Am I Grateful?
Which is really the bigger question.
And I am. I am, Marshall.
So thank you. Thank you also
to Christopher Comery. Christopher's, Marshall. So thank you. Thank you also to Christopher Comery.
Christopher's never late.
He come early.
Are you drunk?
He come early.
Christopher come early.
You know how they say like a wizard is never late.
He arrives precisely when he means to.
Right.
Well, Christopher come early.
That's his saying.
Equally poetic. He kicks in the door. Christopher come early that's it that's his saying he usually poetic kicks in the door christopher come early
kicks the front door in the party doesn't start for three more hours it's really annoying you
have to make him a snack you know turn on your xbox for him to play because he's bored
he was actually trying to give us money before we even set up the patreon he was so early
we're like we didn't even
know we were gonna launch it this is insane so thanks thank you so much for the idea i guess
and thank you lastly but not leastly to mr ryan trail ryan the ryan frail trail the skinniest little trail tracker that ever lived this stick insect of a man yeah can hunt
unbelievable of paranormal cryptids like no one ever say it's his skinny tiny nose that does it
his delicate twinkle toe footsteps barely imprint the dirt meaning any paranormal creatures don't even see or hear him
coming his tiny armpits that barely even produce any sweat at all means even beasts with the
strongest sense of smell have no idea what's happening but luckily there is one big thing
about him his pockets filled with coins to rain down on the paranormal peasants listen whenever you
catch that many lucrative beasts you got a few pennies to show for it exactly and you're also
he he robs a lot of banks because they don't even see him wow he's so light he kind of just floats
through the air vents yeah uh so thank you everyone who has contributed to the patreon and thank you
everyone for listening to the podcast.
We hope you had a great time.
And we will be back next week with a brand new paranormal tale.
Remember everyone to live fast, investigate, and die young, baby!