This Paranormal Life - #165 The Haunted Bridge That Only Possesses Dogs

Episode Date: May 19, 2020

Something is in the water at Overtoun House in Scotland... or at least there must be because hundreds of dogs have jumped off it's 50ft bridge for no apparent reason. Experts from all disciplines are ...stumped. Could it be something to do with a local ghost?Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityAdvertise on This Paranormal Life via Gumball.fmIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Can fish swim in beer? Where do dogs go when they die? Heaven or some kind of dog Valhalla? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life. Hey and welcome back to This Paranormal Life. This is the weekly comedy podcast. Every Tuesday we investigate a different paranormal tale, case or claim and get to the bottom of whether it's truly paranormal or not as always you are joined by professional paranormal investigators myself mr kit grumelvena this guy mr roy powers how you doing today roy i'm doing great as you can see for this recording i am dressed purely in white head to toe very messiah like sweats white shirts um some people would say it's a bit like i'm in a cult i would say it's a bit like i'm in a commune with my friends and as always like any good commune
Starting point is 00:00:50 i'm keeping open-minded and i'm ready to investigate the paranormal yeah your friends are also wearing the all white though so i feel like it's a hard rule that the commune has great minds think alike i would say to that you all thought of it at the same time yeah we all had the same idea we were like hey what should we all wear today white yeah because it's regulation so sure and your face painted with blood it's actually berries it's actually wizards berries that's actually pretty important in the ceremony that we're going to be doing later on so okay sounds a lot i know that doesn't help the cult imagery just the word ceremonies doesn't sound good but it's it's not a cult but if you are in the if you're in the commune and you're listening the sacrifice is at uh six tonight so
Starting point is 00:01:31 bring your goats bring your daggers and make sure you're lathered up in those sweet sweet wizard that's a ritual and that's a all right that's not a ritual that's an activity for adults and goats it doesn't know it's not activity. It's death for the goats. I digress. As with every week, we do have a brand new paranormal investigation to dive right into. So thank you so much to Steve Hiscock for sending this one in to us at thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. Our story today takes us just outside Dumbarton, Scotland.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We're only around 15 miles outside of Glasgow at Overton House. Overton House is a foreboding but beautiful site. They call it a house, but really, truly, this thing is a castle. Built in the 1800s, over 2,000 acres, the grounds even feature a waterfall. Yeah, that's not a house. Nah. That's some sort of Animal Crossing house. You're rewriting history. And if it's Animal Crossing, you're 12 years into playing the game. Countless mortgages from Tom Nook later. That's a lot of bells. You know what it costs to get a waterfall, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:35 It's a pretty expensive feature. After its original owner died, it was inherited by his son John, who would later become Baron Overton. The Baron couldn't understand why the house was so difficult to get to. The only way to get a horse and cart into the grounds was incredibly steep, and so he commissioned a huge bridge to be built over a ravine, completing the castle grounds. I just think that's kind of funny. It's like complaining that it's really hard to get into your castle because this moat is in the way.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And you're like, we need to just kind of cement over this babble. I don't even know why they have this river around the castle. There's actually a lot of stairs in the castle. It's not very easy to get up and down. There's also one entrance and it's got a drawbridge. We should just have like a revolving door or something. That would be great. You want an office building.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You want a one floor office building. you're invaded day one as soon as construction you're actually invaded by the construction crew who cemented over the moat but like so many castles houses and manors across the uk overton house fell into disrepair not to mention after lord overton himself died in 1908 with no children to inherit it the house was passed on to lord overton's nephew a doctor in london which is fantastic this is fantastic this is like the premise for a great movie you're just like live in the rat race live in the nine to five rat race and then you get a letter saying that that a distant uncle you didn't have any contact with has perished with no heirs. And you have inherited a castle.
Starting point is 00:04:09 It's like an old-timey scam. Instead of the African prince who has the large cash sum and a bank account. You're the only person who can take the cash sum. I mean, if instead of an email that was delivered to me by a raven i probably would have sent all my money to that african prince it just makes it feel more authentic if you have to like crack open a wax seal oh yeah i mean if someone sends an email that they could be sending that to tens of thousands of people at once i would know if a thousand ravens were in the night sky or if these messages or if one raven had done it a thousand times,
Starting point is 00:04:46 it would be a pretty tired-looking raven. It lands like... Just dies. Get out of here, you little scam artist! How do I send my correspondence back? The raven's dead. But needless to say, this London doctor guy was too busy to spend time in his new castle.
Starting point is 00:05:06 So in 1938, he handed the house and its grounds, everything, over to the people of Dumbarton. Where today, it's public land and a grade A listed building. Meaning it's a popular place for people to walk with their families and pets on a nice day. That's a classy move. And walking around on a nice day is exactly what Lottie McKinnon was doing when one day last year she took her dog Bonnie on a walk around Overton House. Bonnie, a beautiful border collie, was having the time of her life as she ran around the grounds of Overton House,
Starting point is 00:05:41 stopping to smell all the dog pee in the grass. Hell, stopping to pee herself basically living her best doggy life they circled the grounds and then lottie led bonnie to this isn't gonna get confusing at all those names are insane my name is lottie here's lottie jr over here we've got a hamster lottie jr jr then we've got lott Senior, a gorilla that escaped from the local zoo that I'm keeping. Lottie took Bonnie for a walkie around the castle grounds. That's right. Lottie led Bonnie towards Overton Bridge on their walk.
Starting point is 00:06:13 But just then, Lottie began to notice something unusual. Bonnie was behaving a little strangely. Her movements slowed down and she'd seem distracted somehow, as if concentrating on something. Ms. McKinnon would later say, Ms. McKinnon? Why didn't you say her name like that at the start? Well, I had to let you know she was a border collie.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Like, I had to tell you the breed of the dog and stuff, so. Wait, is Ms. McKinnon the dog? Of course it's the dog. It's a classy dog, a classy house, classy castle castle it's got a it's got a nice double barrel name ms mckinnon would later say something overcame bonnie as soon as we approached the bridge at first she froze but then she became possessed by a strange energy and ran and jumped right off the bridge. Ms. McKinnon cried out in shock and ran to the parapet, looking over the edge and down
Starting point is 00:07:12 into the gorge, but she couldn't see anything. Oh my god! Oh my god! She ran around the bridge to the edge of the gorge and scrambled as best she could down the fifty foot ravine. 50 feet? Through trees and bushes. That dog's a puddle. Miss McKinnon Jr. is a dust at this point.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You don't want to find what's left down there. Swept away by the whitewater rapids outside Glasgow. Looking around hysterically, she spotted Bonnie's body on the ground a few meters away. She ran over to her, but Bonnie heard Lottie, and blinked awake and then whined. She struggled to try and stand up before Bonnie helped her. It was unbelievable that Bonnie survived the drop, but Lottie couldn't shake the horrible feeling that hung over her. What had just happened?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Bonnie looked like she'd become possessed or something. What on earth could make a dog do that? But what Lottie didn't know is that this had happened before. In 2014, Mrs. Alice Trevorrow, the dog? No, what the? Why would a dog be a Mrs.? Jesus Christ, Mrs. Alice Trevorrow... The dog? No. What the f***? Why would a dog be a Mrs.?
Starting point is 00:08:26 Jesus Christ, Mrs. She's married? You said the first dog had a... Right, Ms. Mrs. Roy... Ms. Ms. Whatever. Ms. McKinnon.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Obviously, that's a freaking dog, bro. But Mrs.? You think dogs can get married? You freak. Mrs. Alice Trevorrow was walking her Springer Spaniel, Cassie, around Overton House. And then, crucially, towards Overton Bridge. Walking little Mrs. Cassie. A daughter-married dog!
Starting point is 00:08:55 Well, sure, she's a ladylike dog. She has kids. You think she has kids without being married? You can just imagine the scene. It was a beautiful sunny day all throughout their walk around the house, until they so much as looked at the bridge when the entire sky clouds over and a thunderstorm comes out of nowhere. But approached the bridge they did. And as they approached, Cassie slowed her pace all of a sudden. Started looking around as if confused or on guard.
Starting point is 00:09:27 When out of nowhere, Rory, and you'll never guess this this is insane she jumped straight off the parapet into the gorge what is going on here I will never forget the awful wine she made as she leapt Mrs Trevorrow said later to the press. My heart just dropped. The bridge is so high. I was certain she died. But as Mrs. Trevorrow looked over the edge, staring at the floor of the gorge, she saw movement. Not just movement, but Cassie, uninjured, clambering back up to the bridge to see Alice. This seems entirely unbelievable. What would cause these two dogs to become momentarily possessed by a mysterious force and then throw themselves off a bridge? The thing is, Rory, this didn't just happen twice. It turns out hundreds of dogs have jumped off Overton Bridge in circumstances exactly like we've just heard. sadly bonnie and cassie are the lucky
Starting point is 00:10:26 ones it's estimated that at least 300 dogs have jumped off the bridge and most of those have fallen to their death that is crazy stop bringing your dogs there at some point you gotta put up a sign some point you gotta that just says keep the dog in a leash yeah i'm not gonna tell you why it's important though do it that's a that's a great sign keep the dog on the leash not going to tell you why but there's some pretty paranormal shit going on just trust me bro keep it on the leash the text is just getting smaller and smaller it's size eight font by the end you could just say no dogs allowed that would solve a lot of problems you're gonna deny the dogs the beauty these are classy dogs i mentioned that they're gonna deny them a nice walk on a summer's day around over in house that's you're crazy if
Starting point is 00:11:09 you if you want to do that i guess yeah it could just be part of the risk it's like some of the dogs sure are gonna jump to their deaths but the ones that make it through are gonna shit and piss all over this castle like kings and queens they will feel like royalty yeah look this is a difficult situation we all know that dogs can see ghosts why do you think they're always barking that's just paranormal fact they have height like animals and children have heightened paranormal perception hpp as i call it yeah and what we're seeing here is an instance of where the animal is perceiving something that the humans simply are not i'm glad you said that that because that's exactly what's going on here you know if you crunch the numbers of how many ghosts there
Starting point is 00:11:58 are in the world it's astronomical look at all the people who have ever existed and if they are all undead ghosts wandering the earth, they must be everywhere. It also doesn't even make sense. It's like trying to do math about love. The equation is like 20 times boo. It's like the end of Interstellar. The whole plot breaks down. It becomes about love for no reason. You can't crunch those numbers. It doesn't work. Yeah. And that's how you know dogs can see
Starting point is 00:12:25 this shit because talk about whistleblowers what animal is blowing the whistle 12 times a day it's not dogs it is dogs they go to the whistle they don't blow it they are barking their asses off once they learn go oh they're hungry and he's like no i just ate damn it once they learn how to blow their own whistles humans are redundant so we actually have to keep them away away from that but uh that i think this is what today's case is going to be about it's going to be giving ourselves the eyes and the mind of a dog yeah and seeing if we can work out what it is that they're witnessing on this bridge it is us the paranormal investigators you guys at home, the listeners today, to dig deep into our fursonas
Starting point is 00:13:07 and feel what it feels like to be a doglet. So, Rory, with everything I've just shown to you, as a Paranormal Investigator, imagine you get this call from the groundskeepers of Overton House. Rory, it's me again. You'll never believe what's happened. It's the 300th doggy suicide this year man what are your immediate thoughts it shouldn't have it shouldn't have taken 300 well he said
Starting point is 00:13:35 dog suicides to get to this again he said it's me again he's called you a couple times i'd like to think i would have made some changes to the architecture of the bridge to prevent getting to the 300th right dog suicide maybe some higher edges maybe some signs um then you wouldn't get to look at the beautiful gorge the 50 foot deep gorge she is grand and she is beautiful this is a talk first off I'm calling out some paranormal investigators because I know who are the valuable members of society. Am I going to get out a landscaper? A security guard? Architect?
Starting point is 00:14:14 No, I'm going to get someone that can see things that aren't really there. I'm going to call paranormal... So they aren't there? And I'm going to get them to charge me up the wazoo. You know what actually what maybe i'd take it into my own hands that's what i do with the situation i would you aren't gonna call any experts the experts i'm the expert now i'm gonna get myself a whole pack of dogs
Starting point is 00:14:39 i'm just gonna go i'm gonna walk them on down there and and and just see keep them on a tight leash obviously i'm not letting them off the leash i'm gonna walk them on down there and and and just see keep them on a tight leash obviously i'm not letting them off the leash i'm gonna just see what happens see how close i can get to the bridge before they start going buck wild i guess you want to see what this moment of possession looks like firsthand i'm not gonna let them jump i'm gonna keep them on the leash but it's like it's like holding on to a a pack of balloons in a hurricane you're those dogs are going to be trying to get away and they're going to be wriggling you just got to hold on and uh and see what's causing them to to suffer this this cruel fate you could strap parachutes to the dogs that's a good idea maybe teach them
Starting point is 00:15:17 some parkour rolls to soften the landing 50 feet though yeah yeah it's not doing they ain't cats it's sad because if they were cats you're rolling into the afterlife at that point rolling through the gates of valhalla imagine doing a massive parkour jump like enormous you hit the ground to do a perfect parachute roll stand up you're like i did it and you see the pearly gates and you're like oh shit it's instant it's that instant it did not work and they're like all right let me uh let me see your credentials see if you could make it into heaven you freaking jump the fence you parkour the pearly gates like absolute badass so needless to say this story sparked a lot of interest in the press. I believe it was the Daily Mail that first covered this story
Starting point is 00:16:06 and brought it to the attention of international press. Online news sources called it the dog suicide bridge. And there were many theories for what was happening. Even the Scottish SPCA was sent in to make an investigation into what was happening. It started off somewhat rational and based on science. People suggested, look, maybe these dogs were sad. Maybe these are real suicide attempts by dogs. That's pretty grim. However, when interviewed in the press, professor of animal sciences Peter Neville from Ohio University said it was
Starting point is 00:16:39 highly unlikely the dogs were jumping deliberately to their deaths. He said, dogs live in the present so are unable to their deaths. He said, Dogs live in the present, so are unable to contemplate the future and how they will be feeling and make plans accordingly. Of course, dogs do get depressed, but this would not lead them to taking their own lives. Hmm, that's interesting. One professor, Owens, has actually spent 40 years looking into this case, and he believes there is, quote, no rational explanation for the phenomenon. Thankfully, me and Rory's middle names are No Rational Explanation. And Doghouse.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Rory Doghouse Powers. Sorry, I thought it was Rory Mad Dog Powers. Sorry, Mad Dog Powers. Still dog-based. But yeah, No Rational Expl rational explanation could honestly be an alternative name for this very podcast because if there's no rational explanation available that only leaves paranormal explanations and even the locals are into this idea it's said that the area surrounding overton bridge is what ancient celts would have called a thin place. Somewhere where heaven and earth
Starting point is 00:17:46 overlap and where every hour is paranormal happy hour. I call it McDonald's. Paranormal happy hour? No, heaven and earth overlapping. Because normal earth without its 99p meal deals is hell. Is hell. Every waking minute spent without an apple pie or a hash brown. And after all, Ms. McKinnon, who we talked about at the beginning, said herself that it seemed as if Bonnie had become possessed right before jumping over the edge.
Starting point is 00:18:16 And thankfully, someone has already been looking into this. Just last year, Professor Paul Owens, a religion and philosophy teacher in Glasgow who lives near Overton, sat down with the New York Times to talk about the bridge. Which I have to respect, by the way. I think I was actually telling Roy before about this case. You know, we've been getting this case suggested for quite a while.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. And I think I looked into it and I said, okay, I don't want to look at this today, but this case definitely warrants investigation. okay i don't want to look at this today but this case definitely warrants investigation and it's cool that actually we you don't really think of major news sources as being still interested in this kind of thing yeah but like the new york times sent a reporter to overton to cover this last year and do a pretty in-depth investigation the paranormal is timeless i think uh the investigation we did into the alligators living in the New York City sewers was also a New York Times-based article. So, you know, people are always going to love the paranormal.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It's always interesting. Because working with the paranormal is like being a wartime correspondent. I know that seems distasteful to some people. I know some people think that the people who work in war zones are heroes. I'm just saying I'm also a hero. Yeah, you can see the enemy. I can't see shit. I don't know when they're coming.
Starting point is 00:19:28 That's dangerous. Sure, I don't need a flak jacket. I don't need a helmet because they don't have weapons. In fact, they have no way of harming me, really. No, it's psychological. It's not dangerous. It's true. But I do need psychological armor, okay?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Every morning I watch Arnoldwarzenegger uh motivational speeches on youtube that's my psychological armor against uh the paranormal and i think that makes me a hero it's also worth noting uh we have been sent this case a lot of times because the majority of our listeners are in fact dogs yeah we we do there's a bonus rss feed for this podcast which goes out at the dog whistle register we just up the frequency a thousand percent yeah till it is just a high pitch squeal which uh intro music sounds like the dogs either really enjoy it or really hate it it's very hard to tell either way they're pretty agitated and
Starting point is 00:20:26 horny which i think means that they like it most humans don't get horny listening to this show now it's actually what's the opposite of an aphrodisiac it's like a regular bucket of water to the balls it's a cold shower it makes a lot a lot of people just completely numb. Whereas, as we said, a lot of the dogs that listen to this show get pretty fired up. There's a lot of puppies who have us to thank for their existence. Exactly. And we're proud of that. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Professor Paul Owens said to the Times, After 11 years of research, I'm convinced it's a ghost behind all of this. Took him 11 years to come to that conclusion? Not just any ghost Rory, but- I'm about to do that in 40 minutes! Not just any ghost Rory, but the White Lady of Overton. It's said that after her husband died in 1908, leaving the house to his son, the White Lady of Overton lived in the house in grief for over 30 years before dying
Starting point is 00:21:26 herself. The White Lady has been seen by many people who walk around Overton House, and it's thought that maybe in the same way that dogs have a sixth sense of sorts and can tell an earthquake is going to strike before anyone else, that they can somehow literally perceive the paranormal. Some dog walkers have claimed their dog will stare into the distance as if they've heard or seen something but their human can't see anything. This lines up with what Ms. McKinnon and Mrs. Trevorrow said that their dog stopped as if stunned by something they were hearing or seeing and became transfixed and then possessed and then ran and jumped off the bridge i wonder if it's only dogs that are seeing
Starting point is 00:22:12 this i mean if you walked a cat over that bridge or like a i don't know a mongoose or something random animals like would they also be agitated like birds do birds just kamikaze into the waters below or is it like is it simply a dog surely there should just be a graveyard pile of wild animals yeah this bridge foxes squirrels everything just jumping off it's hard to say i mean different animals have different sensory perceptions so maybe dogs are one of the only animals able to see this at the same time it seems like a wild coincidence if the one animal that humans have domesticated over tens of thousands of years can see paranormal shit yeah and all the 99.9 of other animals can't that seems a little tricky too yeah that's kind of hard to explain like bats they got ultrasound
Starting point is 00:23:02 they can see shit that we can't they're borderline paranormal themselves upside sleeping upside down like a freaking vampire giraffes sleeping standing up like a anti-vampire that's paranormal that's weird cows sleeping on their side well actually we do that as well actually cows sleep on their side no i think i have it messed up don't cause sleep standing up jesus i don't know. Fish and dolphins, they're the real paranormal ones. What do they do? They put half of their brain to sleep. And keep swimming?
Starting point is 00:23:32 And keep swimming with the other half. Like Legolas. I think in Lord of the Rings lore, he can sleep while he runs. I think that's right. Someone might correct me on that. But I think that's it. It's either dolphins or orlando bloom's legolas in popular series or the elves from middle earth i always get those
Starting point is 00:23:51 confused middle earth they're super smart they're super horny super sexy yeah that's cool that's really cool in fact a lot because gandalf sleeps his eyes open. They're all kind of weird in the Lord of the Rings ones. Yeah, you forget they're not human. Yeah. Wait, who is? Aragorn's human. Aragorn's human. Yeah, he's one of them.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Professor Owens even claims that one day, while investigating the bridge himself and looking over the edge, he felt what he described as a phantom finger poke him in the back, trying to push him over the edge. What? Thankfully he grabbed the parapet and steadied himself before twisting around to see nothing. No one and nothing in sight that could have done it. He believes to this day it may have been the white woman. How many professors are going to go on the line and claim that the white woman tried to to murder them so she's just chucking dogs off of a bridge usually the spirits that are trapped here on earth you know need to do something to uh complete their lives they need
Starting point is 00:24:58 to find redemption they need to publish that that novel they've been working on yeah they need to make up with a loved one that's here on earth they need to tell their novel they've been working on for a long time. Yeah, they need to make up with a loved one that's here on Earth. They need to tell their child they love them or something. When you're on dog number 300, 301 isn't going to be the thing that gets you to the afterlife. It's not going to open up the pearly gates if you just get the right dog. No, in fact, the pearly gates are very much shut to you. You are barred, you are banned.
Starting point is 00:25:23 That's not going to happen. That's a really weird um explanation because also i know that she was depressed in the castle for i believe you said 30 years uh it's strange that that depression uh and that kind of unresting soul would come out in the form of someone who wants to push animals off of a bridge i hear that i hear that but it could be some kind of siren that lady overton herself the spirit seems to be just over the edge of the bridge just in the distance they can smell her they're like into the ether and then they jump to try and see her and then they die it's not that she's trying to kill them just her very spirit is luring them into the abyss.
Starting point is 00:26:05 This is definitely a difficult mystery to solve because if you get Scooby and the gang to come check it out, Scooby is going into the gorge before you even reach the castle. And he's a big boy, so his fall isn't being broken by anything. Imagine him walking across. Uh-oh, Shaggy. I can see her. I can see the right woman.
Starting point is 00:26:31 What? Scooby's never said anything like that up to now. They're like, what's wrong, Scoob? F***ing hell, Shaggy. The woman, she's here. She's irresistible. She smells
Starting point is 00:26:44 like T-bone steak mixed with dog food. Now, this story about the white woman piqued my interest because she's called this for two reasons. Her name, while alive at least, wasn't Lady Overton, but Mrs. White. She's literally Lady White. But she's also known as this because the lady in white is a type of ghost in truth we could and probably should do a whole episode on ladies in white we've touched on them before these are ghosts of women that appear as pure white textbook ghosts that haunt wherever they died yeah they are heavily associated with grief loss betrayal Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Dog murder. Any kind of negative emotion, such as hatred of dogs, prejudice against dogs, being a cat lover. Any kind of negative emotion that may leave a trace of their soul here on Earth after death. I mean, we had, even in Northern Ireland, you know, there's places that have the legend of the Blue Lady. We've got the legend of the, at our school in Northern Ireland, was it the Black Nun or the White Nun? Yeah, maybe it was the White Nun. I don't remember. Colors do play an important role in the type of specter that you're dealing with. It's very interesting because it kind of, most people wouldn't believe in auras. It's kind of a hippie thing to believe in but at the same time people who report ghost sightings frequently say that it's one color
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah, not just regular multicolored clothes and white women are particularly Fascinating because there are stories of these ghosts in dozens of cultures all throughout the world Making it just that little bit more believable. And Rory, I realize this has been a little evidence light on this episode so far. I don't think I want to see any evidence of this case. So here is one picture the Daily Mail published a couple of years ago with the headline Is this ghost to blame for the dog suicide bridge? Feast your eyes, eyes nay ears on this not what i was expecting it is a photograph
Starting point is 00:28:49 of i'm presuming one of the windows of the castle uh and zoomed up to the window in the roof they've circled in the giant red circle rory if you could be quick about this in the giant red circle yeah is just i'm not gonna lie to you i only see the reflection of tree branches it would have been good if they'd kind of highlighted specifically do you see a face in the in there uh the white lady of overton herself where what's her art where is she you see it well what i will say is it's you know there's a reason only dogs can see her she's not very visible right it makes the circle kind of redundant doesn't it she's rather faint rather ghostly rather wisp like but no amount of camera trickery or photoshop is going to make her
Starting point is 00:29:40 is it going to make her make us see her nose or her eyes yeah there was just a a vague outline of a bit of a head yeah i can see i can see that sure that's better evidence than i wanted to see for sure it said that the white lady and her husband were billionaires extremely wealthy scots which definitely raises questions about how they made their fortune, especially since I'm pretty sure there were no billionaires on earth at that point in history. They actually invented doggy life insurance. Made a clean couple bill. Uh yeah, I don't think there were any billionaires in the 1800s, interestingly. But uh, you know. Rumor has it that the White family used their extreme wealth to dabble in alchemy and the dark arts. Oh hell yeah. A risky and satanic lifestyle which led to great tragedy. Is it possible that
Starting point is 00:30:39 not only the ghost of the Lady in White still haunts Overton today, but that by dabbling in paranormal dark arts, they created some kind of paranormal vortex, a merging of two worlds that drives dogs to possession and self-destruction. I should mention that the effect of Overton Bridge does extend to people as well. There is some evidence, and Professor Owens says, that many who use the bridge go from being happy and in good spirits to deep depression just after going near it. That's interesting. Okay, so we do have some cases of humans being affected by the bridge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:16 That's very interesting. My ex-girlfriend used to describe me as a dog whose wish to become a human had been granted that was kind of like to describe my personality so i would it's actually pretty good i uh i wonder if i would be affected if i went to this bridge like if i could see and if i would feel the finger poking me off the sides right it'd be interesting you would you know we've said a lot recently dr strange style your doggy soul would break out of your human body punched out of the back of my human body yeah and leap off yeah it's quite scary to think it is quite scary to think i mean we're with the theories that we've heard we've heard the local historical theory that maybe this is just some kind of celtic
Starting point is 00:32:06 thin place just a place where the ley lines whatever way the geography of planet earth lines up this is a place where heaven and earth meet much like mcdonald's drive-thru we've also heard the theory that this is the work of lady overton who dabbled in the dark arts and created a paranormal vortex yeah and lastly the paranormal idea that maybe dogs have some kind of extrasensory perception that humans don't have do any of these make any sense to you i think this is an interesting case because there's a number of levels to it all right we've investigated a lot of cases in the past before where it is often the animal that perceives the paranormal first you got people out in the woods and they say the dog started barking like crazy you you you hear
Starting point is 00:32:53 people alone in their homes and the cats are meowing like it's the end of days or i mean i think that's even like a meme on the internet is like what can cats see that we can't yeah sometimes literally people just zoom into a cat's face and they're just looking at the corner of the room with like the apocalypse in their eyes. It's crazy. I think I even saw as recently as last week, wasn't there an earthquake in LA or that area of California?
Starting point is 00:33:22 I saw people I follow on Twitter literally saying like a day ago my dog was freaking out for no reason i saw people corroborating that evidence it's crazy yeah who knows how these links work um and that's one level of it and i think that is maybe more understandable because it's like hey maybe there's something off the side of the bridge that's beckoning these dogs to uh to jump off or encouraging them um but then we have the other level which is they're actually being physically manipulated like who the professor said that he was that's a bold statement you gotta i feel like if your professor
Starting point is 00:33:58 maybe back that up with a certain amount of science or evidence um i don't have to do that so i feel like if i went down there i'm free game i could it'd be like a mosh pit on that bridge i could be shoved about you're throwing you're throwing up the box in like mitts and like all right have at me bro yeah we'll do a little sparring session if i had to investigate this case personally i think i would dress up like a dog go down on my hands and knees doggy style i don't think that's what doggy style means think i would dress up like a dog go down on my hands and knees doggy style i don't think that's what doggy style means and i would you know i maybe set up a little bit because you don't want to go straight to the bridge so i probably like i don't like take a shit in the
Starting point is 00:34:36 woods or something like that bury a bone dig up a bone take a shit on the bone a real method yeah yeah and then eventually like a couple hours couple days later make it to the bridge couple days just get really into the mind and the body of a dog what are you gonna eat bones bones and shit i actually don't know what dog food i guess yeah yeah i'd probably eat some of that maybe a little cat food too see how that works out unless that's illegal i don't know how i don't know dog it's not illegal okay it should be that would be my first as dog mayor that would be my first there is decree where were you getting this from there's no dog mayor eventually i'd make my way to the bridge and i'd be like i i'd pretend
Starting point is 00:35:16 if i couldn't see anything i'd pretend like i would i'd be like slowing down maybe do a little whimper like you know looking over the sides sure and as soon as i feel that little ghostly prick on my back i'm gonna stand up on my human legs and get that white woman in a headlock wow just because i've greased myself up with holy water so i can touch spirits interesting so as soon as she goes to like push me off the edge yeah gotcha you spectral bastard and i maybe i flip her over the edge and uh if she can indeed double die then the dogs would be safe it was your friend who just spotted you at the bridge and wanted to surprise you you judo through them off a bridge it's like yeah it's the film crew being
Starting point is 00:36:06 like roy we've been filming you shitting in the woods for two days i really don't flip him and three days worth of footage off the bridge directly into the river poke this um that's probably how i would handle the situation interesting do you need more physical proof of this white lady yes interesting interesting now i would be remiss if i didn't mention some other more rational theories for example while the professor of religion and philosophy believes ghosts to be the cause the man who actually lives in overton house today is a pastor from texas who it's kind of funny would be at home in any this paranormal life investigation not only but like even in this one that's set in glasgow outside glasgow it's still
Starting point is 00:36:52 someone with a southern he's still there you know but despite living next door to the bridge and despite being a pastor who has spiritual connections of belief in the afterlife he doesn't think it's paranormal he believes that the dogs using their that's right i'm pastor rick from i'm pastor rick from houston uh i moved to overton because why the f**k not it's kind of pretty out here also i'm out here in the woods so i can shoot as many guns as i like he believes that the dogs using their incredibly keen sense of smell can smell animals running around underneath the bridge some 50 feet away and simply can't see the gorge behind them until it's too late and they have plunged to their doom already.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Got it. Now, this makes some sense, but others have said, okay, there are lots of bridges where animals live nearby the bridge. How come dogs almost never jump off bridges at all? Except at Overton specifically, where more than 300 dogs have jumped off the bridge. It's happened enough that they call it dog suicide bridge. Yeah. I will say, as a former dog owner, dog family, you know, grew up with dogs all the time.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Dogs are pretty f***ing good at this kind of thing. Well, they're smart. They are smart. They're crazy smart they they will like run up to a ledge and they'll kind of you know they'll stop and they'll be like let's see what's over there nah i'm good i don't i don't need to go near there i'll go a safe route you know they're smart animals they don't usually fall off shit yeah but you know 30 seconds of rational thinking is enough for this paranormal life rory we've got to come down to a conclusion today. Whether this is truly paranormal or not, what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:38:27 Look, until I can do my own experiments where I dress up doggy style and take on this spirit, it's going to have to unfortunately be a no from me this week. I think that is more than fair. I would love to go on location and see this one for myself. Maybe get some kind of robot dog, see if we could risk a robot dog's life yeah that's a small location but like you say i think the burden of evidence here on the white lady i don't think that daily mail photo was up to scratch we just need a little more a little more so thank you so much to steve hiscock for sending this one in i think it's a double
Starting point is 00:39:01 no today yeah but damn hope you guys have enjoyed this episode. Hope it makes you dog lovers out there, you know, appreciate your pooch because you never know when you could be walking over a bridge one day and he just decides to go into the netherworld. Keep him on a leash.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Keep them on a leash around bridges. And guys, if you cannot get enough this Paranormal Life, if you can't wait until next Tuesday for paranormal doggy-based content, head on over to patreon.com forward slash thisparanormallife, where from $5 a month, you can get access to Paranormal Life episodes. Totally off the wall, too hot for TV shit. And there's, I think, around 30 of them ready for download right now. This dog pack, a.k.a. me and Kit, have buried some treasure. But instead of bones, it's boneless content. And you want to give us some, you want to tip these pups some doggy dollars
Starting point is 00:40:04 so that we will lead you to the location where we've buried these bones because you're going to want to hear it guys it's not it's not those bones that are just shaped like bones and are probably just human bones these are the ones that are like flavored like bacon that make your dog's teeth whiter you know that helps their gum it's a premium. This is some good stuff here. And if you want to join the wolf pack. That's right, we're wolves now. Doing a little pivot.
Starting point is 00:40:31 If you want to join the wolf pack and swim with this herd of sharks. We're sharks now? Yeah, we're sharks. You got to keep up. We're a lot of animals. Then you got to transform and spread your wings. Flying into the night ocean. That's right. I thought when you said transform, I thought we were mechs now. and spread your wings flying into the night ocean.
Starting point is 00:40:45 That's right. I thought when you said transform, I thought we were mechs now. No, we're animals transforming like caterpillar to butterfly to butter bean. We're a bean? We're a bean now. And if you want some of that
Starting point is 00:40:59 creamy beany content, patreon.com is the only place to get it and if you don't understand that plug it's not going to get any clearer just i'll just top it off and just say five dollars a month access to bonus you don't have to hey no no shut up you didn't mention the 20 shut the fuck up you don't need to say anything excuse me we're gonna get watch this this month our patreon is gonna skyrocket and every little comment that people post is gonna be like i'm a bean i'm a bean i'm a bean that's what it's gonna be okay because everyone got it everyone understands what's going on here okay well now they're
Starting point is 00:41:36 being bean size on the 20 tier why would you don't even need to mention it you did you haven't mentioned it yet because beans have no use for currency it's irrelevant to them it's like asking a monkey what's his 401k let's move on doesn't matter and at the end of every episode we like to take the time to shout out those who supported us on patreon the fellow beans so thank you so much to brendan neville brendan neville always keeping things level he's a great person to have if you're like setting up a pair of shelves or a picture he's he's he's like uh his orientation is perfect he can pretty much keep everything perfectly in line people too keeps everyone in line oh that's good yeah yeah yeah pretty he's a pretty aggressive dude sometimes. Thank you so much to Jessica Swan.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Jessica Swan, as I said, you need to spread your wings and swim. Swim straight down into the ground like the worm you are. Because you, me, and Kit are all human beings. Okay. It seems like beans are the great leveler. Everyone's a bean deep down. That's turning back to the first guy, the great leveler. Everyone's a bean deep down. That's turning back to the first guy, the great leveler. That's actually his nickname.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Thank you also to Crystal and Nick. Crystal and Nick, a.k.a. Pistol and Clip. These guys are a very deadly twosome. You cross down a dark alley. You're not walking out of the alley. That's what I'm saying. Oh, my God. Yeah, kind of John Wick style hitman. Lee Tewson. You cross down a dark alley, you're not walking out of the alley. That's what I'm saying. Kind of John Wick style hitman.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I think they actually killed Batman's parents. Well, no, that would make sense because Batman walked out of the alley. Good point. Thank you also to Kirstie Dick. It's Thirsty Kirstie. You might be wondering what in particular makes Kirstie so thirsty. It's on account of being a bean.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Oh, of course. Because the bean needs to grow, so it needs a lot of sunlight, needs a lot of water. Bada bean, bada bean. Hey. Thank you to Ryland Chitwood. Come on down to Chitwood's Chipwoods. That's right. The carpenter who does it all.
Starting point is 00:43:41 By chipping little pieces of wood off of larger pieces of wood he can craft anything chairs benches took you way too long to think of benches also do i have to have it made out of chip can you just use the original wood nope gotta chip it down my friend that's how the business industry works the business and i'm gonna take my business elsewhere please do not he does not have many customers thank you to robert harnett robert needs to harness the power of the bean that's right the seed that starts it all you know what they say that uh every mighty tree was once a acorn? Sure. Well, every bean becomes a f***ing
Starting point is 00:44:29 plant. Okay. It's not true. Unless you bake them. Yeah. That's a lot of the beans. A lot of beans end up being eaten.
Starting point is 00:44:40 That's true, yeah. Thank you to Steph. If it isn't Steph Curry with the wrist, boy! Except this Steph Curry is dunking, you guessed it, beans!
Starting point is 00:44:52 Sinking beans from half court. That's how much Steph likes basketball and beans. It's a good combination. Bean and bees. Thank you also to Sarah. Sarah, I dare you to slap on a dog costume and head down to the bridge yourself do it i actually check my calendar i'm a little busy this week a little busy this month
Starting point is 00:45:15 we need it we need in lockdown we need a freelance investigator to go check it out and sarah i think you're the person for the job i think that's irresponsible i think it's cruel i think it's unusual but i support it thank you to alien dream catcher wow i do not want to know what is inside an alien dream catcher are you kidding me do they dream i mean judging by my dreams of alien other worlds i'm guessing that they dream of what it's like to be a bug on earth that's the weirdest thing to them yeah they dream about what it's like to be a human that's the sad irony they they dream of just like working in an office yeah it's like the craziest lsd trip to them thank you also to ferdinando bianchini ferdinando's got a mankini. And he wears that thing everywhere.
Starting point is 00:46:07 To work. Can't do it. On his Zoom calls. Shouldn't be doing it. To work. Shouldn't be doing it. He sleeps in it. He swims in it.
Starting point is 00:46:16 He showers in it. That's weird. Yeah, that is weird. I would say maybe invest in some more clothes. Maybe keep the mankini, but get a hat.
Starting point is 00:46:27 You know, that's a stepping stone to more clothes. Thank you also to Zach Kicks. Zach kicks the bucket almost every day. He keeps walking out into traffic. He keeps falling off bridges. But every time he's up at the pearly gates he's like bro give me one more try I'm not gonna I swear to swear to you swear to God I ain't gonna let this happen again and they're like all
Starting point is 00:46:54 right you can go back and he goes back and he he drops a toaster in the bath he falls on a knife every see every day he kicks the buck it's unbelievable it's great but they keep giving him another chance it's great thank you so much to simon stead nobody cares what simon said rory said give me all your money on patreon you little bean and it's been a while since i've played simon says but i think it's you're supposed to not do what he tells you to do. Right? You don't... You don't... Sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:27 You do... No, wait, what? You do everything he tells you to do until he doesn't say... Simon says. Shit. So we're actually... We're supposed to do what Simon says? Yeah, we're actually in a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And what I say? What I said about the beans and the money? We shouldn't do that. No one does that? No. So I should say Simon says? Give me... But then the beans and the money we no one does that no so i should say simon says give me but then they'd give the money to simon we are a problem here simon's actually rigged this game pretty well simon says we we lose thank you to matthew richardson matthew
Starting point is 00:47:57 richardson needs a richer son uh his current son isn't quite bringing home the bacon he's broke now matthew doesn't need the money don't get me wrong matthew lives a very nice comfortable His current son isn't quite bringing home the bacon. He's broke. Now, Matthew doesn't need the money. Don't get me wrong. Matthew lives a very nice, comfortable lifestyle. But the son could really be doing a lot more. It's more of a bragging thing when the dads get together to be like, how rich is your son?
Starting point is 00:48:18 That's what they, that's what dads, have you ever hung out with dads? That's what they talk about. I am a father of seven, so. Yeah, we have touched upon that. It's quite disturbing because you don't see any of them 17 father of 17 i just don't talk to 10 of them because they're not rich enough so you actually have a lot in common matt thank you also to connell jennings i'm glad that you're conning all jennings and not con all rory's or con all kits because that would be a problem yeah we're all we're fine if you want to
Starting point is 00:48:46 if you want to scam Jennings thank you also to Cody Handley Cody Handley does coding badly the this paranormal life commune uh website is barely functional we got him to do all the coding for the website and uh the home page is like at the very bottom of the web the website uh there's pictures that kind of bleed off of the front page they're kind of like off and and wrong um you can't get in without a password which we don't have you won't tell us the damn password till we pay him which we're obviously not gonna do it's a joke it scam! But hell, it's better than we can do. Thank you also to Leilani. Leilani, we need you to harvest the landi.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Because there's a lot of beans out there that need to be plucked from the earthly soil. I thought we were the beans. We're the beans. We're also the farmers. It's a complicated metaphor, alright? The paranormal commune food shortage is running a little low. We need some additional
Starting point is 00:49:46 help, like Lani herself, to come help us pluck the beans. Not the human beans, the beans in the ground that are just beans. People, beans are starving up here, alright? This is bean on bean cannibalism. Thank you lastly, but not leastly, to Christy Simmons.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Christy summons all the beans from our domain for herself. Now, this is a problem. This is like Grasshopper from f***ing Bugs Life. We have to harvest the beans. But Christy is very selfishly, may I add. I'm saying that because knowing she isn't listening. Because I'm scared of her.
Starting point is 00:50:21 She wants all the beans herself. Yeah. But did you wait until we recruit a circus act full of bugs including a very large German caterpillar to combat against you.
Starting point is 00:50:34 And then it's all over. It's all over, my friend. Thank you to everyone we've shouted out today. And thank you to everyone for listening to this week's episode. We will, of course, be back next Tuesday
Starting point is 00:50:44 with a brand new paranormal tale. See you then, folks. Can fish swim in water? Of course they can. Can...

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