This Paranormal Life - #273 The Bridgewater Triangle - A Paranormal HOTBED

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

All life's great mysteries involve triangles. The pyramids: how were they built? Pizza: why is it so delicious? And the Bridgewater Triangle is no exception. Rivalling even the infamous Bermuda Triang...le, the Bridgewater Triangle contains a paranormal smörgåsbord - cryptids? You got it. Satanic cults? Of course! Ancient scriptures? A thousand times, yes! But is ANY of it real? Only Kit and Rory can answer that question.VOTE FOR THIS PARANORMAL LIFE IN THE IRISH PODCAST AWARDShttps://www.theirishpodcastawards.ie/vote/ Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! -  thisparanormallife.com/storeFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityAdvertise on This Paranormal Life via Gumball.fmResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Giles BidderIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What colour is Bluetooth? Don't you think it's weird that towels dry us, then we dry them? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Hello! Hey! And welcome back to This Paranormal Life. This is the weekly comedy podcast where every Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:00:20 me, Kit Greer-Molvena, and Roy Powers, who's sitting across from me, we investigate a different paranormal case and try to get to the bottom of whether it's truly paranormal or not. How are you doing today, Roy? I'm doing fantastic, Kit Greer-Molvena, and Roy Powers, who's sitting across from me. We investigated a different paranormal case and tried to get to the bottom of whether it's truly paranormal or not. How are you doing today, Roy? I'm doing fantastic, Kit. And I love the energy in the room today. We recently, on the iTunes store, got a one-star review. Huh? We got a one-star, and they said that, I think they said...
Starting point is 00:00:41 Give me their address. They said it used to be good, but now it's gotten bad. They they were like i've been a fan for years and now i hate it and i really think that like it's not an issue with the quality of the show or like the research or the comedy i think it's an energy thing i think we're not giving it enough energy i see what you mean i'm just pulling up that review uh yeah they really have lost the uh they've really lost the excitement and passion to doing the show um some of their views have become kind of weird and outdated over time yeah i think we need to give it more stacks i think we need to crank up the volume in the room let's go i'm back in northern ireland we were recording in our home studio i drove here today in little bastard my car
Starting point is 00:01:23 lightning mcqueen um the sun was shining weird thing to call your car by the way whenever the I drove here today in Little Bastard, my car, Lightning McQueen. The sun was shining. Weird thing to call your car, by the way, whenever the guy who famously drove that car, didn't he die in it? Yeah, he got wiped out and completely obliterated himself, much like I probably will do in My Little Bastard. But yeah, I had the top down cruising in the sun. Unfortunately, the car is old enough that it doesn't have,
Starting point is 00:01:49 all it has is a CD player. There's no way to hook up your phone or do Bluetooth or anything like that. Rory is driving one of those 1940s. He's eight foot off the ground, giant steering wheel, but who got horns? He somehow hooked a CD player up to it. I don't know how. And the only CDs I can get, because my mom lives back here in Northern Ireland, is just Christian music, like Christian rock.
Starting point is 00:02:14 That's true. Worship songs. Well, you are painting Northern Ireland in a weird light. We have CDs. We have more CDs than that. Not at the House of Mrs. Powers. An angel on earth, alright? I like to imagine that whenever you're
Starting point is 00:02:27 driving in the car, you're listening to like, I don't know Korn, Slipknot and then when your mum is coming for a ride, you're like, oh shit, eject, eject! You put in worship CDs. I think it's a pretty good way to go because let's face it, I'm probably going to die in that car.
Starting point is 00:02:43 So at the very least if i die listening to like christian worship weird amount of acceptance about your fate it's like you have a death wish it just means whenever the angels come to pick me up they're like oh hey he's rocking out to our shit oh this is yeah let's bring him upstairs he's gonna love it up there you know it's pretty good whereas if i was listening to like metallica or cannibal corpse or some of the hardcore shit that i used to listen to the devil is yanking me off the earth and dragging me down because he's gonna be like you're gonna love it down here buddy rory is trying to trick the angels he's wearing a cannibal corpse shirt he's wearing eyeliner and black fingernail paint i feel like no one's ever gotten to heaven by quote unquote,
Starting point is 00:03:26 tricking the angels. That's a sign you should maybe be in hell. Hey, it's your words, not mine, bud. Can you imagine being in heaven with like all these incredible holy people who have, you know, given their lives to helping others and raising money for the poor? Sure. And they're like, um, how did you get in here? I tricked the angels.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a bad dude. I got Leonardo da Vinci to lick his hand and I put the stamp on the back of my hand and they just let me walk right in. Mother Teresa opened the fire exit and a bunch of us got in the back. Classic Mother Teresa. Listen, we are getting ultimately sidetracked. We need to get into today's ultimate investigation.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Right off the bat, thank you very much in advance to Jason Mercier, Michelle Smith, Sarah Coleman, Josh Chisholm, Selena Smith, no relation to Michelle Smith, I don't think, Scott Campbell, because that's not allowed. You can't get your family members to email in submissions. That is multiple votes from the same household. It will be not considered for future coverage. Scott Campbell, Amy Hatzijanis,
Starting point is 00:04:26 Ben Symes, Simon Penny, and Nicholas Jauvin-O'Rourke. What are you doing right now? This is all the people who have requested today's investigation dating all the way back to 2017. Oh boy, that's got to be, this means it's up there with possibly our most requested case ever. Honestly,
Starting point is 00:04:42 I don't know how we missed it. They're crying out to cover it, but I can't hear them over the blaring Christian rock coming from my tape player. I really think I'll die any second and need to be safe. Rory, let's wind the clock back to July 3rd, 1973. Ooh. It was Independence Day weekend,
Starting point is 00:05:00 so the people of New England had spent the holiday having barbecues, sipping lemonade, and high-fiving one another for escaping the clutches of the bastard British imperialists. Hell yeah, brother. But something curious happened that evening that got people looking at the sky, and I'm not talking about fireworks. One of the first witnesses was a man from a little seaside town called Marshfield, Massachusetts. Bob, of course, a pseudonym, his real identity will have to be hidden, was out in his backyard about 7 p.m. when suddenly something caught his eye far above him. It looked like a singular wing of an airplane. Bob thought it might be some kind of space debris hurtling
Starting point is 00:05:36 towards Earth, but it soon became clear that it was flying along by itself. He heard one of his neighbors exclaim behind his wooden fence, holy hell! The neighbors had spotted the object too. It was a strange sight to behold. It almost seemed translucent. Bob could see the blue sky behind it, but the edges were pure white and well-defined. This is really strange. Within minutes, the entire neighborhood were out of their houses, gawping at this thing in the sky. It hovered above the town for 45 minutes before disappearing into the clouds. But once it was gone, he couldn't get it out of his mind. He was one of 20 or so witnesses, but he felt duty-bound to report it. So, he contacted the Weymouth Naval
Starting point is 00:06:16 Base, hoping they had some answers. And if not, they needed to know something was afoot. Hello, I wondered if maybe you had any aircraft out flying this evening because I saw something I cannot explain and I don't think I'll be able to sleep without knowing. Yes, I'll hold. His call was just one of dozens of reports from at least nine different towns. Everybody wanted to know what they'd seen, but the military couldn't, or wouldn't, help.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Reports flooded in for two straight hours and each of them was turned away with the same reply we don't know wow okay so they're not even denying that it exists this is uh like the first 20 minutes of what happened at roswell you know that beautiful 20 minutes when the military was like, it's aliens! I guess they're here! Batten down the hatches everyone and get your rifle! Before the general called down the ranks and was like,
Starting point is 00:07:13 zip it! It's a weather balloon! Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is that beautiful grace period of just openness where people are like, you saw what? I better tell my boss and then that guy gets sniped in the back of the head yeah bob's like hello hello wow this isn't this is crazy very mysterious and to this day we don't know what bob and the others
Starting point is 00:07:39 actually saw one thing we do know is that this wasn't the first mass UFO sighting in mass state. And it wasn't the last. A few years later, in 1979, hundreds of people saw a UFO flying low overhead. It was the shape of a baseball diamond. A what? Brackets to which the uncultured swine that don't follow baseball
Starting point is 00:07:59 talking to you, Kit, writes Amy. It's a triangle with two straight edges and one curved one okay i think i can gather that that is the pitch you play on yeah the pitch okay yeah jesus and rory it turns out that these are not isolated incidences far from it they are examples from a clear and repeated pattern of paranormal behavior all centering over one area paranormal researchers documenting these stories like a seasoned detective connecting strings on a cork board across a map of Massachusetts
Starting point is 00:08:30 stood back one day looking for a pattern when they suddenly dropped their mug of coffee and exclaimed, Mother of God, realizing that the corks and strings formed a clear shape. We've all heard of the Bermuda Triangle, but it turns out there's a new spooky triangle in town, the Bridgewater Triangle. Ooh, so what we're talking about is some sort of UFO hotspot located in Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I wish it was only UFOs, Rory. Really? Because I was going to say, I didn't want to be rude. We've been doing this podcast for a long time. It takes a lot to move the needle these days. guy seeing a craft in the sky nothing doesn't do nothing for me i feel like we've we did an episode not long ago where a ufo landed on earth ate a man's jeans off of his body i think fused with his legs and then took off into the night sky. Right. And not long before that, a UFO abducted a bunch of children in front of their babysitters and then I think did like open heart surgery on them and dropped them off again.
Starting point is 00:09:33 A boy disintegrated in front of his parents. Yeah. So I'm just saying we've been in the game a long time. It takes a lot to shock us these days, but it sounds like you're telling me it's not just UFOs appearing in the sky. There is more paranormal activity taking place in this f***ed up triangle. Rory, right now I feel like an anime villain. I'm just grinning ear to ear as you goad me into even suggesting that this case doesn't have the cojones to follow through.
Starting point is 00:10:01 This case has too much, more than we need. Alright, I'm excited. There have been countless famous UFO reports from within the Bridgewater Triangle, many of which we've already covered. Betty and Barney Hill, the Allagash abductions, and the Newtown Lights to name but three. But even more surprisingly, there are much earlier accounts on record than that. It was recorded on the morning of May 10th, 1760. Witnesses reported seeing what they described as an inexplicable sphere of fire in the sky above Bridgewater.
Starting point is 00:10:33 All that saw it said it was even brighter than the sun. Whoa! It shone so bright that it cast a shadow on the ground in broad, blazing daylight. It also made a strange noise that multiple witnesses described as indescribable which makes sense because it doesn't if there was advanced alien technology flying overhead in the 1700s they wouldn't exactly have the language to describe it they're not going
Starting point is 00:10:59 to say it sounds like craft work to describe it it was indescribable. It was so bright, I couldn't see it. It was so fast, it barely moved. When did you say this was? The 1700s? 1760. What were we doing at that point? Were we still like... If by we, you mean the Europeans in North America?
Starting point is 00:11:21 A lot of bad s***. Okay. A lot of bad s***. I just meant like, as a human race, kind of, where were we? In North America? Uh lot of bad shit. A lot of bad shit. I just meant like as a human race, kind of where were we? In North America? Uh-oh. Hard to talk about. I'm saying, no, don't talk about that. I'm saying like, were we playing with like hoops and sticks? We were playing with knives and dangerous things. We were at the raccoon pelts type of history, I think. Got it. That weirdly was summed it up for me perfectly.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah. We were at, I think we had guns just about, but not much more than that. Not much more technology. I know we had guns because we were doing a lot of bad shit over there. We didn't get those raccoon pelts legally. Let me tell you. So let's face it.
Starting point is 00:12:02 We got a good old fashioned paranormal triangle on our hands. All the most paranormal things come in triangles. The pyramids. How did they do it? Pizza. Why is it so delicious? And now finally, the Bridgewater Triangle. What the f*** is going on there?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Was that a rhetorical question? I guess we did cover the Bermuda Triangle, another famous triangle. I don't remember what our conclusion was for that. I think it was no. Okay. Okay. But it was a bit of a different beast. You know, the Bermuda Triangle, I think, focuses mostly on disappearances because it is ocean, mostly ocean. Yeah. So I guess there's not much kind of walking around and looking for paranormal things you can do. The only people who are traveling through it are people in planes or boats, and they tended to just disappear without a trace. Hopefully that's not what we're going to see in Massachusetts. Now, the term Bridgewater Triangle was actually coined by cryptozoologist
Starting point is 00:12:54 Loren Coleman in 1983, who described it as a window area of unexplained occurrences. Yikes. Worrying for a cryptozoologist to be involved in this story when all we've talked about is flying crafts. It might be a slight hint of things to come. Notorious pedo hunter James Blasters.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It's like, why is he getting involved? Right. If you move to a town and you just strike up conversation with a local and they're a cryptozoologist, move town.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Move to the next town. He obviously has a thriving career in this place and you should not live here. If you see a guy who claims to be a cryptozoologist driving a Rolls Royce, move town. If the cryptozoologist is cycling a busted bike, you know, maybe. Yeah. He could just be strolling through, not getting much work. If the pedo hunter is wearing a Rolex,
Starting point is 00:13:50 you got problems. Out of context, man. What a great sentence that is. That's one for the out of context. If the pedo hunter is wearing a Rolex, you got problems. He's doing very well here because there are men to be hunted.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Now, our triangle of discussion today is 200 square miles in southwest Massachusetts, a little south of Boston. For Massachusetts state listeners, its points are said to be from Rehoboth in southwest across to Freetown at the southeast corner and then all the way up to Abington. Bridgewater is smack bang in the middle. All right, you got to slow down, man. You're throwing a lot of stuff at me here.
Starting point is 00:14:35 That was just for the locals. Don't worry. Okay. As I mentioned earlier, there are reports of every kind imaginable. Aliens are just the tip of this iceberg. So at this point, you might be wondering why this area is riddled with unexplained phenomena. And like I said, if you know anything about American history, the answer probably won't shock you. Some of the earliest European settlers to arrive in North America pitched up on the East Coast, of course. However, despite what Texan school books might tell you, they weren't the first people there. No.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Indigenous people were systematically forced from their own land and oppressed by the colonizers. Things went from bad to worse when full-blown war broke out, leading some to believe that the sheer scale of the bloodshed caused the land to become haunted or even cursed to this day. But even that level of tragedy and grief is not the whole story. There's another layer to this. You see, in the heart of the Bridgewater Triangle is a swamp. 17,000 acres of swamp, actually the largest in North America. Oh my god!
Starting point is 00:15:38 It's called the Hockomock Swamp, and it was a vital resource for the Wampanoag tribe for generations. How big can this triangle be if that much of it is swamp and yet there's still more left? This is where the Wampanoag people would hunt, forage and even bury their dead. There's a burial ground the size of almost 8,400 Olympic swimming pools. Human remains have been discovered there dating back 9,000 years. Holy shit. The native community revered the swamp.
Starting point is 00:16:08 It was both worshipped and feared. Its name literally translates to, quote, place where the spirits dwell. Oh my God. And it's believed that the deity of death and disease lives there. This is like that place from Lord of the Rings, where, do you remember in the movies where the Fellowship,
Starting point is 00:16:27 I think at this point it's just Frodo and Sam, are like going through the swamp and Gollum is like, don't look in the f***ing water. And there's like ghosts and dead people like in the water. And I think there are people who died or fell in. What's the first thing Samwise Gamgee does?
Starting point is 00:16:42 You're going to want a sip from the forbidden juice. Bad place to get thirsty. I remember I was walking down one of the canals in London with a few of my friends and we were incredibly hungover on a sunny Sunday. And I was looking down into the canal, just completely zoned out, dead behind the eyes. out dead behind the ice and at the bottom of the canal i just saw a bottle of corona resting down there and i was like i can't tell if there is actually a bottle of corona down there or if it's one of those rivers that shows you your deepest heart's desires to try and lure you into the water and then it's like a merman that ends up eating your brains or something yeah there's a london water rat like come in rory yeah you have everything you need roonies but this swamp just sounds like a straight up swamp they're not even showing you shit that you want 100 this thing
Starting point is 00:17:39 is 50 swamp 50 souls needless to say based on how important this was to the native people, early English colonists called it the devil's swamp and thought it was, quote, worthless and planned to drain it and turn it into farmland. Let me tell you, folks, if you're walking through the devil's swamp, you're going to want to crank the songs of praise. So if the devil or some demons come along, they know to stay away. if the angels come you can trick them to letting you into heaven what's the idea here that the radio keeps playing after your moment of death so then when the angels come to i guess take a look at your limp body it's like a
Starting point is 00:18:16 crime scene investigation they're like all right what happened here it's like well he clearly tried to drink the swamp water and fell in and got tangled in some bushes and drowned. He seems like a bad man and he seems like an idiot, but he is listening to Raise You Up on Eagle's Wings. So I guess he was like, give him benefit of the doubt. Let's take him up with us. The other one's like, no, his iTunes was on shuffle. He didn't even mean to listen to that. But I feel like you could also just keep a Bible in your pocket. Like if you, if you are this committed to the bit, you don't have
Starting point is 00:18:48 to subject yourself to Christian rock, which I'm going to come out and say it isn't very good. How dare you? What? So you actually do like it? It pops off. Are you kidding me? Some of those songs go hard. I don't think you're listening to it for the sake of God at all. Like you're just listening to it because you think it slaps. Well, I started for the God stuff to be, like, a better person and everything. Some of it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Some of it actually goes hard. Two weeks into doing this, you're like, oh, God, I guess if I have to listen to it. I mean, that one's kind of catchy, I guess. Let me stick that one on again. Just humming to yourself. Raise me up on eagle's wings. Now, this swamp is surrounded by dense forest that many believe to hold a dark power. And you know, now that we're about to enter the woods in our story, I want to pause and just say, we're about to enter the woods in more ways
Starting point is 00:19:40 than one. I've been real chill telling this story so far about a story and a place that has absolutely no chill whatsoever. I've been drip feeding you paranormal stories and hints, but I'm holding back an avalanche of paranormal phenomena. I'm straining to fit the Bridgewater Triangle into something that resembles a normal episode, but it's anything but. There is too much going on in this place. I think it's time to open those floodgates. To give you an idea of how fast we're about to fall off the deep end, in this forest, you'll pretty quickly come across a boulder called Dighton Rock. It's covered in ancient carvings in a language that no one knows where it came from to this day. Turn up the music, folks.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Things are getting paranormal. Jesus. Okay, this thing is wild looking. A big slab of stone protruding from the earth with bizarre scribblings. They're almost like drawings rather than a language. Pretty much like nothing I've ever seen before. Yeah. Not necessarily creepy, but strange. It shows you that there's something going on in this here forest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And genuinely, Rory is not even mentioning the fact that this image is an old-timey one. Since like the 1800s, people have been trying to work out what the hell is going on. Some people think these carvings could have been made by a native population, even though it doesn't match any written language. It could have been Vikings that found their way over to the Americas a long time ago. But again, it doesn't quite match up with anything. Yeah. Deep in the woods is an 80 foot deep quarry known by the locals as the ledge. People avoid it because it compels people to jump to their deaths. There have been instances of perfectly healthy young people leaping off the ledge for seemingly
Starting point is 00:21:20 no reason at all. Visitors that escaped with their lives from the forest said that they felt the urge to jump despite having zero inclination to do so. Ooh, that's creepy. It's like the Overton Bridge in Scotland where dogs would just leap off all day long. Yeah, dog suicide bridge. But this one affects seemingly humans. Have you ever had that before?
Starting point is 00:21:41 Been up somewhere like really high and just been like, oh, no, I won't jump. No. But like there's a bit of your brain that's just like, oh, what if you jumped? You know? No. No, me neither. Me neither. Me neither. You're like, oh, I would, but I don't have my Christian rock playlist. Something you want to share?
Starting point is 00:22:00 No, it's fine. It's fine. There's another formation called Profile Rock where reports tell of strange glowing light orbs floating in the air where disembodied whispers can be heard. Now maybe one of the most important paranormal elements to this area is the Devil's Swamp is home to a race of cryptids that I don't think we've properly covered before called Pukwudgies. Never. I've never heard that before. And they've been intertwined with native folklore for centuries.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Their name translates to little wild man of the woods that vanishes. Whoa! According to legend, these swamp dwellers are troll-like creatures, generally described as about three to four feet tall, with smooth, hairy, grey skin and large ears. According to the native people, they were once friends of the humans and have since turned against our kind. That makes sense. We've done a lot of bad stuff. If they've
Starting point is 00:22:50 been around for a while. Although they're the ones living in the devil's swamp. So who's really the bad guys? The devil's swamp was very much a ignorant European name for what was known by the natives as the place where spirits dwell. Okay, right. That's on us then. Never mind. And since they've turned against us, these evil little beings allegedly push people off cliffs and are responsible for others disappearing or dying in mysterious circumstances. Oh my god. It's believed that they could be behind people falling off these cliffs in the first place.
Starting point is 00:23:22 That's terrifying. But they're not all ancient legends. There are shocking sightings even from recent years, like this one from the early 90s. Local man Bill Russo had finished the late night shift at his second job at the Ironworks and had rushed straight home to take his dog, Samantha. That's a good name for a dog.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I like to think that he has a bunch of dogs all named after the cast of Sex and the City. She was a Rottweiler Cross German Shepherd and a big dog that needed a lot of exercise. Bill was a complete skeptic and didn't even know about the region's spooky reputation. So when his huge dog started shaking like a leaf, he didn't suspect for a second that something paranormal could be going on. What is it, girl? But then he heard something his brain could not compute. It kept repeating, getting louder and louder. Turn around and go home. Drop the leash. Let the dog fend for itself. Just run. Yeah, you found an Ewok. A street lamp was illuminating a circle on the pavement that backed onto the trees.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Bill stared in horror as a little creature stepped out of the woods and into the spotlight. It was three or four feet tall. If Bill hadn't seen it moved, he'd have assumed it was a stuffed kid's toy. It must have been a hundred pounds or so, with a round pot belly. I'll be honest with you right now, brother. Without blinking, I would drop kick that little f***er into a streetlight. All you had to hear was three foot tall and you're like, I can take it. I can kick it.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah. I'm not even, I'm no hesitation. I'm not letting them get to the second round of cure Iwachu. Because it sounds like he's the guy from Indiana Jones that can take hearts out of bodies without touching them. At that moment, it motioned with its hand, making a come-hither
Starting point is 00:25:13 gesture. That's the heart gesture too, though. That's the Indiana Jones heart gesture. Bill couldn't see if it was an arm or a paw, but one thing was clear. It wanted him to approach. Hey kid, Halloween's over, take off that costume! But there was no response other than the nonsense words it had been hissing all along.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Bill maintains that he wasn't scared. He only fled from the creature because his dog was terrified. He is staunchly of the opinion that he encountered a Pukwudgie that evening, and that it was trying to communicate with him. The thing was saying, Kir Iwan Chu. Bill thinks it was saying,
Starting point is 00:25:55 Come here, we want you. Oh, yeah, that's pretty similar. So he remembers what it was saying? That's exactly what it was actually saying? Allegedly. That's so strange. I mean, at least it wasn't violent, necessarily. Intimidating, sure. Who knows who was trying to snap his neck if he walked over to it.
Starting point is 00:26:14 What are you doing in that situation? I told you. I'm dropkicking it into a bush. And then I'm going to crank up the Christian rock. The problem is... Just in case there's more of them in the bushes. Tears streaming from your eyes. You raise me up.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Gear you at you. I'm cranking it so I can't even hear their voices. They're actually biblically accurate angels. You just drop kicked one of them. It's like, oh, you died
Starting point is 00:26:40 the second you hit the swamp. You fell and drowned. An angel was saying saying come to heaven and you drop kicked his wings off of his body you saw an empty budweiser lying in a dirty puddle you drowned in it if i accidentally drop kicked an angel i think i'd probably take the wings as quick as i could and put them on my own back so when the angels you're not getting into heaven when the other angels come around they're're like, yo, everything okay here? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:27:09 It's fine. I don't know where that guy went. We should head back up. We should head back up. They're like, where did you get converse Chuck Taylors from? We don't have those in heaven. I'm panting. There's like blood all down my face.
Starting point is 00:27:20 We should go back up, right guys? Why don't you guys fly first so I know how to do it and I'll come up after you. I'm kind of tired. Do you think I could just hold onto one of your feet? They take off effortlessly into the sky. I'm flapping. I don't know how these things work.
Starting point is 00:27:35 But pretty interesting that we have this really storied ancient legend of Pukwudgie, known to the native people who've lived there for millennia. And then a guy in modern times stumbles across one walking his dog. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like what we're talking about today is a smorgasbord of paranormal activity taking place in this triangle, but there doesn't seem like there's a real link to any of this. It started with UFOs. Then there's a cliff that just makes people jump off of it. And now there's three foot little swamp elves yelling things at strangers. It just seems like
Starting point is 00:28:12 a bizarre mix of the paranormal. It is. I think that there's a few different explanations for each one, right? So we have the supposed dark energy that surrounds and maybe that's to do with the cursed and grief stricken nature of this area's history that that causes strange things to happen in the woods that we're actually going to talk about soon but then on top of that you have a more ancient connection that this is just a ritualistic site a place with an incredible amount of kind of karmic paranormal spiritual energy on account of it being used as a burial ground for so long yeah where humans and maybe puck wudgie lived side by side uh but then you can't just say things like that you can't just say things like humans and puck wudgie living
Starting point is 00:28:57 side by side with a straight face like i'm supposed to just sit here and accept that sentence but then on top of that on top of that you have sure the aliens and that does come a little bit out of left field this is like you saying something like oh yeah there was a massacre that happened here a hundred years ago where a bunch of people were died in a brutal way that's why they think the glumbos and the tip-tops exist there in this real world. It's like, no, that's not why anything should happen. The glumbos aren't real. Well, sorry, but actually a lot of people, including Bob, have seen and believe in the Pukwudgie.
Starting point is 00:29:38 They're not glumbos. All right, I'm willing to suspend my disbelief to continue because, hey, I like a lot of this stuff. I like the creepy ledge. I like the creepy ledge. I like the UFOs in the skies. Maybe not won over yet by the Pukwudgie, but I'm here for it. This is what we're here to investigate.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Good, because we're not done. We haven't even approached potentially the darkest side of the Bridgewater Triangle, which is mad because the Pukwudgie pushing people off cliffs is pretty dark. Pretty dark. At the height of the satanic panic in the United States of the 70s and 80s, there really was a satanic cult operating within the Bridgewater Triangle who genuinely killed people and animals. Yikes. They slaughtered goats and stray cats, baptizing their members in warm blood.
Starting point is 00:30:21 But at least three women also fell victim to their rituals. Jeez, that's grisly. And it's far from the only terrible crime to be committed in the forests. There are dozens of mysterious murders attributed to this area. Even the famous Lizzie Borden case of 1892 took place in Fall River, the same place as the more modern cult murders. Is it possible that whatever darkness surrounds these woods has created more terrible happenings?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Of course, there's always the possibility that brutal murderers were attracted to the woods because of their reputation. Listen, you call a place the Devil's Swamp, it's going to attract a few Satanists. That's just what's going to happen. That's a real unintended side effect of giving things really glib names, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:31:05 I think if they had known the effect that that would have, they would have called it something different. Yeah, just pick a freaking track off my Songs of Praise CD. Just call it after that. Blessings of the Lord Swamp. Sure. Eagle's Wings Swamp. I think their idea, to give them credit, was if we name this something evil, people won't go. But what they didn't anticipate was there's sick a**es out there who want to hang out at the Devil's Swamp.
Starting point is 00:31:31 You're going to attract all the evil people. But even so, we're not even getting into the sightings of thunderbirds, ghost hitchhikers, zombies, flocks of black helicopters, hitchhikers, zombies, flocks of black helicopters, and countless Bigfoot sightings all taking place within the Bridgewater Triangle. Thunderbirds? The puppets? No, the Native American cryptids. Oh, right, okay. It's like the f***ing Thunderbirds are in the Devil's Swamp?
Starting point is 00:32:00 That big boulder with markings that slides out of the way and a rocket shoots out? It is truly too much for a single episode of this paranormal life. But yet, we must decide on whether this place is truly paranormal or not. Look, I know there's a lot of crazy stuff that's happening in this triangle, but it does sound like an enormous triangle. The reason the Bermuda Triangle is so bizarre and suspicious is because, yes, it is a large part, corner, slice of the earth, but there's nothing there. It's just open water. That's why it's so weird when planes or ships enter it, they go down. But we're talking about a huge slice of land where people live, where animals live, where there's a lot going on. I mean, could that not be part of the explanations? You see, Satanists live there.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Maybe just looking at that space. Yeah, the odds are that a Satanist does probably live in this area. I guess. But I mean, without comparing apples to oranges, I mean, look at us. We're sitting here on the island of Ireland. And I don't know if we have one of these things in the whole country. I mean, but we have our own versions, right? We have banshees, we have leprechauns, we have doulahans.
Starting point is 00:33:09 We don't say that this is a cursed island, the devil's island. Let me get a map so you can see the size, because I want to, I for myself, even want to know just how big this is. Yeah, me too. I mean, it's small enough that the cryptids residing inside of it need to be three feet tall. I mean, this isn't that helpful, but it does show that it just links, I mean, a few small towns. It's smaller than I thought. I will be honest with you. Because if you look at this map, I mean, as we mentioned earlier, it's kind of, okay, the town of Taunton looks to be...
Starting point is 00:33:43 These all look like made up names, by the way, but the town of Taunton looks to be, these all look like made-up names, by the way, but the town of Taunton seems to be the center of it. But the next biggest one seems to be whatever, Attleboro, Brockton, a bunch of towns I've also never heard of. Yeah. I mean, it's not even bordering what seems to be one of the more well-known ones, at least Providence or Pawtucket to its west.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Yeah, okay, this is smaller than I thought. I'll be honest with you. I mean, there's an airport. That seems to take up a big chunk of it. Yeah. Oh, that's worrying. That is worrying. You know, I'm not immune, Rory, to the skepticism. I'm not immune to the sensation that a lot of this is a hard pill to swallow. There's a lot of crazy stuff going on. It's hard to believe. You know, I will say there is a hard pill to swallow. There's a lot of crazy stuff going on. It's hard to believe. You know, I will say there is a frustrating element to this, the lack of photos, the lack of videos, that if this is supposedly some kind of paranormal Disneyland,
Starting point is 00:34:34 some kind of adventure theme park where you go from Taunton to Attleboro and ride the paranormal monorail and see Pukwudgies driving the thing, there should be more physical evidence. But, you know, there are paranormal researchers who've investigated here. And I did read about more than one who claimed to have, let's say, dared spirits to attack them in the forest and also in Lizzie Borden's house. And they claim that they were slammed up against a wall or pushed down some stairs. So people in our field of work have said, it's real, there's something
Starting point is 00:35:04 going on here but that doesn't necessarily mean that we have a slideshow of presentation photographs to show you i mean this is the hard thing about cases like this is like all you're wanting is just something to latch on to a little bit of concrete evidence but instead of getting a story to the point where you can really believe in it you get if you if you think that was crazy, what about X? And you're like, no, I'm still trying to deal with Y here. Like, tell me a little bit more about, I can't tell you about that, but another creature, you're just adding more to the pile
Starting point is 00:35:37 instead of elaborating on one of these specific things. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about cases like this. Because this does feel like a personal attack. Which I apologize for. I'm going to push you. I'm talking about cases like this. Because this does feel like a personal attack. Which I apologize for. You did a great job. You did a great job. Pukwudgie, absolute nonsense.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I will not entertain that for a second. But everything else, it's an interesting case. That's it. I really thought the Pukwudgie was going to get you all inside. Maybe if the whole episode was about the Pukwudgie, then I might have entertained it a little bit more. All right, we're beating around the bush. Let's come down on a yes or no.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Is the Bridgewater Triangle a paranormal hotbed? No. It's a no from me this week, folks. I'm going to go yes. I'm going to go yes. I'm invested in this case. I'm invested. There is no way you're giving this a yes
Starting point is 00:36:25 Don't diminish The yes The yes You don't diminish The Pukwudgie How about that? How about that? How about
Starting point is 00:36:34 There's a lot of people Who believe in the Pukwudgie For a very long time And then Rory comes along And just shits all over it I think like You better start playing Some Christian rock
Starting point is 00:36:43 Because I'm about to Beat your ass Because you're going to hell In a handbasket I think like You better start playing some Christian rock Because I'm about to beat your ass Because you're going to hell in a handbasket I think like two weeks ago I presented a story about A literal government documented Craft and a dog fight Where like 60 plus
Starting point is 00:36:57 Military officers said that A captain was shot out of the sky And it was all recorded And at the end you went no I say no And now you're sitting there was shot out of the sky and it was all recorded and at the end you went, no. I say no. And now you're sitting there and telling me the Pukwudgie? I showed you a burial ground
Starting point is 00:37:13 dating back 9,000 years with untold millions of souls. You didn't, by the way. You didn't show me that. You showed me a rock with some scribbles on it. And that is not scribbles. That is ancient carvings from now that I think about it, almost certainly Pukwudgie.
Starting point is 00:37:28 You didn't even show me a picture of a Pukwudgie, by the way. Well, let's get one. The episode's over, but I'm pretty sure the picture is going to make you regret not saying yeah. This is crazy. Regret. Oh, my God. Based on your facial reactions, I don't think I want to see the Pukwudgie I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:37:49 What is so funny? What is so funny about this creature? Not what I thought at all Alright, completely different from the first image you showed me God damn it That's a hedgehog with a staff They have been known to shapeshift They really have
Starting point is 00:38:02 Hey, I'm joking around here Everyone is entitled to their own paranormal beliefs. I respect your yes in the hopes that you respect my no, brother. If you believe in this, the triangle, more power to you, man. I'm about to raise you up with some goddamn secondhand angel wings. All right. And then pile drive you through a table. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:23 That is the end of this investigation. We decided, well, we didn't really decide. We're split opinion. So let us know what you think. Email into thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com. Hope that was worth the wait, guys. Some of you had been emailing back from 2017, but very inspiring to know that there are cases like that out there
Starting point is 00:38:40 just waiting to be plucked. We've had two recent disagreements now when it comes down to conclusions, which is quite worrying because our last disagreement was like the first one in like 100 episodes or something crazy. And now we're basically firing them off back to back. Man, much like American politics,
Starting point is 00:38:59 shit's getting polarized. It really is. Fake news. There's gonna, our whole audience soon will be Team Rory or Team Kit divided basically like the f***ing Twilight saga. It's going to be werewolf or vampire. Which side do you want?
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Starting point is 00:40:40 you can even get a shout out right here on the podcast. It's true. So why not get stuck in let's shout out some patrons let's go thanks to cole heartless cole heartless is goddamn heartless cold and heartless this guy's so cold even the puck wudgy are scared of him he hangs on cliffs all day long they're like whoa they don't have the balls to push him thank you to matthew richardson matthew richard's son the preacher's son. No stranger to a Christian rock anthem.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Oh, yeah. Great choice, brother. You got to let me, I'm just dipping my toes in the genre, so you got to hit me up with some sweet recommendations. I'll see you up in heaven
Starting point is 00:41:14 when the angels come for us both. That sounded like a threat. Why are you so worried? It's strange. Thanks to Plum Tree Veneer. You know the Patreon is accessible when a literal plum tree is signed up what the
Starting point is 00:41:26 hell could it have to do with a podcast app i don't know but is the fruit up for grabs or is that weird is that like grabbing your bits you could chaos and yeah maybe the ones at the tops are fine but the ones on the bottom are weird yeah shake your branches if it's weird plum tree is that weird to ask you to shake your branches? It seems inappropriate. Thank you to Vanessa Lovato. Come on down to Lovato's Gelato. That's right. You can get the iciest, coldest treats for the sunniest days.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It is boiling in the studio right now. So if we could get some gelato up in here, that would be much appreciated. Actually, if we could get the plum tree to do a collaboration with Vanessa's gelato. That's the dream. Thank you to Misty Kwasnicka. Misty loves hanging out in the devil's swamp. Because everyone always says, oh, it's Misty in the swamp. So people think like it's going to be foggy or something.
Starting point is 00:42:16 But no, Misty's just there chilling on a tree, chatting to frogs. It's a pretty chill life. Luring people to their demise from underneath the water. Well, don't tell them that or they won't go. Thank you to Daniel Paulson. Daniel Paulson is pretty impulsive. How so? So just making snap decisions, you know?
Starting point is 00:42:34 If someone is just like, hey, what do you want to do today? Do you want to go to the beach or do you want to go to the city? Yeah. Okay. Sure, yeah. Okay, what flavor of gelato do you want? City. Beach. Whatever. Unless you have to make decisions fast. No, but you said, okay, yeah. Okay, sure, yeah. Okay, what flavor of gelato do you want? City, beach, whatever. You have to make decisions fast.
Starting point is 00:42:48 No, but you said, okay, well, I thought we were doing gelato. You were saying, so, okay, so why don't we go to the beach, did you say, or city? I don't like gelato. I don't like gelato. Yeah, we moved fast to gelato, so you're very impulsive.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Let's get better at decision making. Thank you to James Wenkheimer. James Wenkheimer, the old timer. He remembers a day when the swamp was... That's how old he is. He goes back to the origins of the swamp. Before it was the devil's swamp. That's right.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Back when it was Christian rock playing from every corner. Oh, yeah. The angels hanging out there. The Pukwudgie were six, seven foot tall at that point. They weren't so malnourished. Thanks to Stephen Kubica. Stephen, are you believing in the work
Starting point is 00:43:34 of our Lord and Savior? He's a man who's up on the clouds. What's happening? I'm just wondering if Stephen is believing in some of the sick feats. you commit tax fraud or something? Like, what did you? They're coming for me.
Starting point is 00:43:48 The angels are coming for me. They've got a hit out on me. And I think that they're going to be here any day. They're not assassins. I think. Thank you to Daniel Monteo Jesus. Daniel, get out. Daniel, you're not welcome in the Patreon.
Starting point is 00:44:02 No. We've been through this a million times. Get out. You have given us literal thousands of dollars at this point. And it's not enough to make up for what you did. No. It's not. It just isn't.
Starting point is 00:44:14 No. Dark shit happens in the commune all the time, but there's a line. There is a line and you crossed it. That's why we had to bring in Daniel's Law, which is no Daniels. Thank you to Sam. Sam, no stranger to the Devil's Swamp, because we are looking at Sam the Swamp Jester, supporting us right here on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:44:32 What a treat. That's a real flex, isn't it? For someone to say you're not real, and then you subscribe to their Patreon. Yeah, that's pretty amazing. Yeah, well, you might think I'm real, this is real cash, bitch. Sam, I know you have your own microphone,
Starting point is 00:44:47 so feel free to guest on the show at some point. Thanks to Todd West. God bless Todd West. Todd Westy is God's bestie. Can I hang with you then, Todd? Can I hang with you and maybe you could put in a good word for me when the angels come? Oh, man, sure. Thanks to Matt Gittins.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Matt is always Gittens these dollar dollar bills. Yeah? He's always grinded, burning the midnight oil. Huge. You know,
Starting point is 00:45:13 hustling, bustling, breaking into liquor stores and grabbing the money from the cash register. Just like, he's a hustler. He knows how to get shit done.
Starting point is 00:45:22 That's not hustling. That is. That's theft. Well, it's like, you know He knows how to get shit done. That's not hustling. Yeah, it is. That's theft. Well, it's like, you know, working hard, being an entrepreneur. No, that's not what none of this is. Stealing from people. Oh, okay. Sorry to see why you need all the help you can get.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Thank you to Charles Sims. Charles Sims? A sinner? No, no, no. Supporting this show? He's like the games. Get him away from me, dude, because when the angels come, I can't have Charles anywhere near me, honestly.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Thanks to Ashley Weeks. Ashley belongs in the swamp because Ashley reeks. Okay, that's quite enough. Not kind. I'm just saying, Ashley, maybe if you go into the Devil's Swamp and roll about a little bit in the mud, it might take the edge off some of that smell. Maybe the, what are those little guys called?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Pukwudgies. Pukwudgies. Maybe they'll take you in as one of their own. Thanks lastly today, but not leastly, to Dragon and Latte. Dragon and Latte is an interesting concept because you wouldn't think dragons would enjoy lattes. They already have a fiery throat. They're hot all the time.
Starting point is 00:46:24 So they would want like an ice. Well, maybe it's an ice latte. There's a business opportunity if you haven't thought about that before. Can we get the gelato person to link up with? Vanessa's gelato. Yeah, get linked up with the dragon latte. It could be a business in there.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I'm just saying, guys. Thank you to everyone we've shouted out today. And everyone, we are yet to shout out next week we'll be back of course on Tuesday with a brand new paranormal tale and later this month
Starting point is 00:46:49 with the bonus episode and of course on Friday with an after party woo praise him okay praise him
Starting point is 00:46:58 talk soon everybody see you next week

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