This Paranormal Life - #276 The Gateshead Grey - That Time an Alien was Killed with a Shovel
Episode Date: August 16, 2022When we think about the many battles that have taken place between humans and aliens, we typically think about ray guns, laser beams and spaceships firing death canons... but back in the 1940's, a muc...h more 'hands-on' battle took place. What did these mysterious visitors want? Was it really an alien or did the locals of Gateshead actually kill a small man? Time to investigate... VOTE FOR THIS PARANORMAL LIFE IN THE IRISH PODCAST AWARDShttps://www.theirishpodcastawards.ie/vote/Support us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! -  thisparanormallife.com/storeMedium articlehttps://medium.com/truly-adventurous/project-poltergeist-745f2d498849Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunityAdvertise on This Paranormal Life via Gumball.fmResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Louis BlatherwickIntro music by www.purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Guys, believe it or not, I'm actually in great spirits today because we're recording this episode of the podcast on my birthday.
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Yeah, it's my birthday today.
It's your birthday.
Yes, dude. Yeah, it's my birthday today. It's your birthday! Yeah, man!
Yes, dude!
Yes!
Yeah, dude, I knew that, too.
Yeah, it's pretty awesome recording it.
Really?
You're recording a podcast on your birthday?
Yeah, man.
Well, like, hey, where would I rather be than with my best buddy Kit and with all of our 11 listeners loyally here on the pod?
That's cool.
That's cool.
So, did you plan, like like a birthday party or anything?
No, I just wanted to like come over and hang out and stuff.
So like when I came in the house, your wife said like happy birthday.
I said hi to baby Cora and stuff.
And I came up here and like I was like I know Kit's got something planned.
It's got like a present or something.
You know it.
Because you always go crazy for the presents.
So I was like, you know what?
Can you do it?
And then we started recording and I was like, this crazy dude is going to give me my present.
Oh, you bet.
Live on the podcast.
This is nuts, man.
Yeah, you know me.
Which is crazy.
And if you want all of our listeners to know what I'm getting for my birthday from you,
it's got to be something crazy.
Nah, nah, nah.
It's got to be something nuts.
So I guess like, do you want to do it now or should i close my eyes uh nah okay i'll count to three all right let's
get to the interval let's count to three one two hey oh happy Yes. Now, you said I went crazy with the presents.
Was I right or what?
Yeah, this is nuts, man.
You get iPhone.
This is the AirPods.
Do you have some of those?
Well, I do, but I don't have these ones.
Oh, hell yeah.
These are the noise canceling ones, those V2s.
You know it.
You know it, dude.
Hey, how much do I love you?
They're a little scuffed up inside the
little uh dirty there's some wax on the inside of the ones tweaking there's no wax that's probably
stuff they put on there to keep them lubed up or something i don't know uh i don't think i hope you
like them hope you like them hope you like them no i do they did warn me i think the case may be
dead uh the battery on the pods themselves, though, should be A-OK.
Yeah, it just popped up on my iPad, trying to connect to Kit's AirPods.
I need to go back to the store and ask them about that one.
So that's weird.
They must have automatically linked it up with my account.
They just saw me coming, and they were like, let's just sync it up to his account.
I'll get that figured out in the back end.
Don't talk to them, though.
Don't ask them about a warranty.
I could have gone to the store
and just like...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't ask what the...
They said, I went,
they said,
coronavirus shipping times,
they're out of warranties.
But that aside,
happy birthday, dude.
Thank you, man.
Thank you.
Thank you for the gift.
And I'm not joking.
Where else would I rather be
than in the studio right now
hosting a new episode
of This Paranormal Life
a beach maybe
sure
but you know
maybe I'll go there
after
take the new airpods
for a spin
I do have
yeah
I have plans
I have plans
this afternoon
and you need the airpods
it's a long drive
and if I could just
borrow them for like
three hours
three hours
I'll get them back to you
borrowing them at all is weird you you I thought you gave them to me I thought they were my gift
it's not a short drive it's a long drive it's a very very long three hours yeah and I need them
because I got a lot of important phone calls to make and actually not that important errands but
a bunch of errands to run uh it sounds like you don't need the airpods then it sounds like you
just have to do errands we could take one each how about that I don't need the AirPods then. It sounds like you just have to do errands. We could take one each.
How about that?
I don't think that's how they work.
I don't think that's how they work at all.
We could agree to, if we just agree to listen to my shit,
and you just listen to that through one ear.
It's just me listening to all of your phone calls?
Yeah, yeah, I ditched him.
Yeah, I said I had to do errands.
Yeah, I told him they were called share pods and he believed me. He said
best friends wore them. I get one and he gets one. F***ing dumbass. I said 50 reminders to remind me
it was his birthday. The information just won't stay. My brain just knows it's useless information.
That's enough joking at the start of the podcast. Look, you know that we're here today to investigate
a brand new paranormal tale and that's what we're to do. Before we dive into this week's episode,
I'm going to give you a little PSA, folks. And this is to our listeners and to you, Kit.
This week's episode is wild. Make it to nuts. Let's dive in. Today's story begins in Gateshead, just across the River Tyne from Newcastle.
The year was the 1940s, and although I don't know the exact date, I've read that it was a sunny day,
which in the Northeast pretty much narrows it down to a handful of days in the height of summer.
Robert Hall was five years old, and like a lot of inner-city kids from 80 years ago,
he was allowed to play out in the street with no supervision.
Him and his friends would spend their evenings roaming the neighborhood,
exploring the rows of red brick terraces.
Oh yeah, that's back when kids got to be kids.
Yeah.
I mean, even back in the 90s, we were running shit.
I mean, my parents, I had quote unquote screen time, which was whenever
when I was allowed to watch TV or play video games, which went till about 8 a.m. and then
screen time came back on at like 9 p.m. an hour before I had to go to bed. I was going to say
that's surely your entire waking day as a child. So essentially they were just after you had your
sugar loaded cereal.
My parents were like, all right, go have fun.
Kick you out the front door.
And yeah, he just roamed about the neighborhood, skateboarding, playing games.
I mean, that's it.
We didn't mind because despite our age, we were running a borderline bozozuku,
Japanese biker gang on the streets of Port Sturt.
Just leather jackets, rally bicycles.
Oh yeah. It's quite funny. I feel like I'm close
to being one of those old people who is like, back in my day, we didn't have TikTok, Snapchat.
We didn't even have a cell phone. But this is where I go, it fucking sucked. I wish I had all
that shit. That stuff's amazing. It was a different time for sure and it's it's definitely
a bugbear of mine i hear parents say all the time like oh such a shame like we just love to let our
kids leave the house but uh can't do it these days too many uh too many dangerous people around
it's like no it was dangerous back then you just didn't know it yeah people were just ignorant
your child was raised in Vice City.
You thought he was safe, but he was ganking Ferraris on the strip.
Well, look, the kids at this point were having a great time,
playing outside, running around the neighborhood.
But this day was one that would actually change their lives forever.
In the middle of all the fun, Robert noticed something in the sky.
A distant ball of light zooming around in random directions.
He didn't say anything.
He just watched as the object darted back and forth above them.
Come on, Robert! We're going to be late!
Robert snapped back to his friends.
The zooming ball he had seen overhead was soon forgotten
as they continued
their walk through the estate. But Robert must not have been the only one to see the ball.
As they turned a corner, they heard the sound of boots stomping on the pavement.
What's going on? They turned a corner to reveal a long line of soldiers marching through the streets, heading in one direction.
Whoa.
Something was going on.
Now, I did say that this was sometime in the 1940s.
There was a war going on, possibly.
Oh, I thought you said it was 1940.
Oh, but you're saying it was in the 40s.
In the 1940s.
Oh, okay.
So there's a good chance that the World War was happening.
Yes, I believe at this time we were still fighting Germany.
So maybe at this point seeing soldiers roaming about in the streets marching wasn't actually that weird a thing.
Right, or explosions in the sky.
Still not that weird.
It would still probably freak me out a little bit. I've mentioned on this
podcast before that the closest experience I've had to something like this is when my action man
walkie talkie started picking up police radio signals. That was pretty close to hearing soldiers
in my neighborhood. What a sheltered life. We told people we had a biker gang.
I'm like unpacking these radios being like,
these new radios are so cool.
It says on the box that Action Man himself will call you
and give you missions to complete.
All units, please respond.
We've got a triple homicide.
Subject is on the run.
I repeat, all units respond. You got it. Okay. Subject is on the run. I repeat, all units for spawn.
You got it.
Okay.
On my little bike.
Ling, ling, ling.
Robert and his friends watched the soldiers for a while
before deciding to call it a day and head home for dinner.
As Robert left his friends and headed home,
he rounded a corner,
and in front of him was something he couldn't believe.
There was an odd mist in the air in front of him. It was as if there was a wall of static.
A wall of static?
Yeah.
He just entered a goddamn TV in the middle of tuning.
It seemed the way he describes it is literally like a barrier of white.
Holy moly.
In front of him.
He slowly continued to walk forward as he approached the front of this mist wall.
It was almost like a barrier between the real world and this bizarre blurry world.
I mean, people always say you should go towards the light.
They don't mention the static.
The giant mist wall. That's up for debate, right?
Yeah. I mean, static makes it sound like it's gray. If you see the light, go towards it.
If you see the infinite black, don't go towards it. But if it's gray, I don't know what to do.
Yeah. It's a gray spot, literally. I always did find that confusing when they were like,
hey, if you die, go towards the light.
You know what else is pretty bright?
Fire.
Fire and brimstone, my friend.
So just be careful that you're heading towards a holy, glowing, angelic light
and not the light from a thousand souls being burned alive.
And when you're this young, it's sometimes hard to tell the difference.
I mean, is it possible as well? I mean, we don't know what it would look like to so many
paranormal journeys we've seen over the course of this paranormal life, whether it's a time slip in
Liverpool or whether it's, I don't know, going through the wardrobe to Narnia. What does it
actually look like to do that? Maybe it is walking through a giant wall of static yeah i mean
this is already off to a cool start because i don't know if we've ever had any kind of wall
like this in a paranormal story at least at least what's uh seems to be on track to be a ufo case
uh this is really strange absolutely honestly i'd have a little peek inside can i just put my face
in and have a little look
and then decide if I want to go fully in
or is it like you commit to it?
Right, and then you're stuck.
Neo touching the mirror type thing.
The mist goes in your body
and next thing you're in a goo pod.
Yeah, or do you have to Super Mario 64 style
wahoo backflip through the mist?
Let's find out.
Robert took a deep breath and through the mist. Let's find out. Robert took a deep breath
and entered the mist.
Once he was through the threshold...
Good to take a deep breath.
You don't know if there's oxygen in the mist.
We don't know anything on the other side of the mist.
Once he was through the threshold,
he claimed that he saw a group of figures
silhouetted in the distance.
Maybe 20 or so crowded together
was it the soldiers from before no they looked different they were next to an enormous egg-shaped
object surrounded by a halo of light maybe heaven keep keep your fists cocked because we're not
quite sure if we're in a demon world or heaven just yet.
There's no pearly gates.
But be careful. Don't want to punch an angel. That'll get you sent downstairs.
Now, look, I know that this is pretty dramatic and pretty wild. You obviously are going to be
a little bit skeptical, believing me as the person telling this story. But what about Robert himself?
You know, when you look through a fire,
and it's wobbly?
Well, that seemed to be the barrier.
All you could see is the railway,
because we didn't see it till we got through this barrier.
It was under these horrible creatures,
and they got a hold of it.
They took both along,
and the horrible looking thing,
it was about 18 or 19 creatures, the horrible looking things, there was about 80 and 90 creatures,
the horrible looking things.
Can you describe what they looked like?
Well, there was one.
Now you're going to take the mic.
One was like Bigfoot.
Very tall.
The others were small.
I told you things are going to move pretty fast today.
The horrible ones.
One had like a diver's mask on him.
Whoa. And one of the creatures's mask on him. Whoa.
And one of the creatures
was very good looking.
Look.
One of the aliens.
But he had long hair.
Like you.
This guy's a fan too.
A bit longer than yours.
And I said,
well, you can examine me.
And I went in the capsule.
Pretty crazy stuff, right?
What the f*** is going on?
This is what I'm saying.
This case is so bizarre
we're not even talking about like one little gray that was like scuttling behind the craft
he stumbled onto a paranormal picnic bigfoot is there the f**king nordic gray is chilling there
there's like all these little ant people roaming around i love how there's like no easy way to tell
these stories he's like you're not gonna believe this
and you're gonna take
the mick out of me.
Bigfoot was there.
He was f***ing there.
Don't you f***ing even
smile at that, alright?
Because he was there
and I smelt him.
They were horrible
looking fellas.
Disgusting.
Except for one guy
who was gorgeous.
He was a 10 for sure.
Fabio was there.
I got a lot of respect
for Robert.
Like, as you can tell, I believe he's still alive to this day and he can recite this entire story with immaculate detail and even in
his older age now he stands by every claim and every part of this story and as you just saw you
know he like a lot of people who go through something crazy like this they're like look you're gonna take the piss out of me you're gonna laugh but i'm not gonna change what
i saw because that defeats the purpose of me retelling this story this is what you get from
uh a story from the north of england like this listen northerners whether that's in game of
thrones or in england yeah they're a no-nonsense, working-class people.
They don't f*** about.
They haven't got time for make-believe fairy tales, Rory.
This young man lived through the war.
You think he's going to be wasting our time telling us a story that he just fabricated?
No.
It's true.
And I like that he's obviously told it enough and he's in good enough spirits that
he doesn't mind people.
He's obviously had people joking about it and making fun of it his entire life.
But he's still just like, hey, I'm still going to tell the story because I think it really
happened.
I like that description of, you know, when fire makes the air wobble, it was like that.
Super cool, right?
I mean, that's a very vivid description
because I think we were kind of struggling
to envision what this mist wall was,
this wobbly mist wall.
But he did a pretty good job of describing it.
Absolutely.
I'm not imagining the movie Annihilation.
Did you see that one?
Yes.
Yeah, I did.
Actually, that's a great description.
Yeah.
Because wasn't that it?
It was basically this.
It was a wobbly barrier that was expanding and
expanding. I had to send researchers into it. Yeah. A lot of the creatures that he mentioned,
we have heard of before or seen before. Yeah, weird, right?
But it seems like they're all kind of piling together in one group and he's managed to meet
them all at the same time. Maybe there's some sort of Avengers style team up.
It was as if he's listened to every episode of this paranormal life. We heard from Bigfoot. We heard from what sounded like a Nordic gray or something. Yeah. I don't know what
the diver one was, but it's believable to be some kind of cryptid. I do actually have one artist's
interpretation of what he saw based on the descriptions that Robert gave.
So take a little look. I would love to. At this.
This is an artist's interpretation. This is like Basquiat went through the void
and came back and made a masterpiece. I mean, this is a real, genuine artist's interpretation.
I think it's for sale.
You can buy it online.
It's an art piece.
It's quite cool.
I mean, if there's any particularly minted listeners
to This Paranormal Life,
maybe you should check it out
if you're an art collector slash paranormal enthusiast.
I appreciate what they're trying to do as well.
This isn't like a...
It obviously wouldn't do Robert's story justice to do a well this isn't like a it obviously wouldn't do robert's
story justice to do a like hd 4k pencil drawing sure um like a police style sketching he's
painting in broad strokes here to create the wobbly effect and we can clearly see a very
terrifying bigfoot who looks somewhere between a monkey and the babadook. Then it's tiny gray, which is very funny.
And then a diver.
Yeah, the scuba mask.
From the Beatles' yellow submarine.
And then lastly on the right, seemingly out of nowhere,
Marvel's Doctor Doom staring down the camera.
It does look like Doctor...
It looks like if you got a Doctor Doom action figure
and melted it with a lighter.
And that's essentially what we're left with.
A very bizarre combination.
And honestly, not what you want.
If you are Robert at this age,
choose one.
Choose one of those people and say that you saw it.
Because it's going to be hard enough to say you saw Bigfoot in a mist wall, let alone the f***ing Babadook, an alien ray, and a submarine man.
This is intense. But again, he swears by the story and we're only, believe it or not, getting started in today's case.
and we're only, believe it or not, getting started in today's case.
Robert says he was grabbed by one of the creatures as the others approached him.
Even though they looked insane,
they spoke to him in perfect English with no discernible accent.
They weren't northern?
Nope.
They simply said,
We are looking for information.
Robert is five. Robert is five years old. He can tell you what
time Barney comes on and his
favorite flavor of juice.
You should not have grabbed this boy.
He doesn't know what time it is. He doesn't know what
day it is.
Robert said,
The year's 1940
and we're at war with Germany.
What else would you like to know?
But that wasn't the answer the creatures were looking for.
The next thing Robert knew, he was being dragged onto the egg-like craft with all of the creatures.
Okay, wrong answer.
Whatever the right answer was, he didn't give it.
Once inside, Robert was told to hang his head and keep it low.
If you lift your head up, you'll be killed instantly.
What the f***?
Maybe that wasn't a threat.
Maybe they were like,
Right, the gravity.
Six dudes got decapitated because of the Mordon.
The swing's by here, keep your head low.
The Mordon is just a broken ceiling fan.
Yeah.
Sorry, we really
need to get that fixed.
Robert was understandably frightened
as these monstrous creatures poked
and prodded him all over
while another drew blood from the back
of his neck. I'm just imagining
all four of them just poking him.
Hmm? Hmm? What do you think of that?
Hmm? Eventually, the
doors of the craft opened
and dumped Robert back onto the streets,
dazed and confused.
What did this achieve?
What did this achieve?
They got some blood from his neck, I think.
And they poked him around a little bit.
They found out there was a war going on.
War should be self-evident
without having to abduct a five-year-old boy.
Also, I think one of y'all could have done this.
You didn't need to get Bigfoot involved to take a five-year-old into an egg.
I like the idea that, you know, in this kind of panoply of paranormal creatures,
maybe Bigfoot is like the Earth guide.
He's like Chewbacca.
He's like the Wookiee from earth.
He's like,
all right,
Han,
I'm going to take you down to the home planet.
Show you around,
show the important stuff.
I'm going to be your translator,
your man on the ground.
Eat this.
Don't eat that.
I'll take you to the people you need to talk to because otherwise,
why is Bigfoot hanging out with alien greys?
Unless he's like the muscle,
like you can just hire him to,
to be just like, stand there and look menacingly. So it's like, are you going can just hire him to be just like stand
there and look menacingly
so it's like are you going to get on the craft or do we have to get Bigfoot
involved he's like no I'm coming I'm coming
alright fine
okay I'm moving
when Robert got home that
evening he tried to tell his parents what had
happened but of course they
wouldn't believe him so he went to bed
hoping that tomorrow it
would all be over with. But the next day, the family awoke to a knocking on the front door.
Robert heard his mother downstairs greeting a stranger. A low rumbling of a man's voice
drifted up the stairs. He, get down here right now.
He put on some clothes and headed downstairs. Robert, did you trample this man's flower bed?
Robert looked outside and saw two tall men dressed in neat dark suits. Uh-oh. He'd never
seen these men before in his life. We know where this is bloody going.
Oh, hold on.
My bread's ready.
Excuse me.
Robert, while I'm gone,
you better apologize to these two men.
It's the very British scene.
Hold on.
The kettle's just boiled,
and me bag is in mash is going to burn.
The second his mother turned her back, the men's smiles faded.
Listen to me, you little shit.
You didn't see anything yesterday.
Understand?
Oh, my Lord.
He is five.
He is five years old.
These men do not need to show up and intimidate him.
I assume he's holding onto his blanky bottle of milk in his hand
and they're like,
if you say a word to any other government agents,
you will be destroyed.
He's like, I don't know what this is.
I still think Santa's real.
If you even think of going to the Russians,
your bedtime bunny has f***ing had it.
It's had it.
Robert nodded.
The men smiled and strolled away.
Believe it or not, this wasn't the end of Robert's story.
Maybe he was marked when he was on that craft.
Maybe they didn't get enough of that sweet child blood from the back of his neck.
No one said it was sweet.
But for whatever reason, he was marked all right.
Three days after the incident,
Robert had been sent to the newspaper shop early that morning to pick up his father's paper.
Robert knew the way there like the back of his hand.
It was only a couple minutes walk, but he couldn't help and stare at the point in the road where he'd been abducted by the strange creatures only three days ago.
I mean, it's brave of him to go out and walk these streets alone, knowing what had just happened to him three days earlier.
That's that childlike optimism.
Yeah, you're like, that can't happen again.
No way.
As he reached the back streets,
he glanced left and right to make sure there was nothing coming.
But Robert froze dead on the spot.
In front of him,
looked like a grey creature in the distance,
running at him full pelt.
Oh, God. Run, Robert. Run.
He couldn't believe it. Was he dreaming?
Maybe this was a flashback or a memory from three days earlier.
But dream or not, this little thing was racing towards him.
There's no time to think.
Which is f***ing scary because we've done a lot of paranormal UFO cases
But when have we ever seen
Not once did they sprint
A grey run
That is a terrifying thought
Yeah man it was like
I think we've talked about it before
What was the first zombie movie
Where the zombies could run
And that revolutionized
The world of zombie movies everybody was like nah yeah this
is too scary too spooky yeah i'm imagining that three foot gray running like tom cruise and or
the t2000 robert squealed and took off running turning a quick corner and stumbling over a curb
this thing was small but it was fast. He ran through the estate,
trying to find anyone who would help him. As luck would have it, Robert's old uncle, Ernie,
happened to be out in a backyard when he heard the boys screaming. He popped his head over the fence
and saw his baby nephew being chased by this strange creature. He raced over to help Robert,
grabbing whatever was nearby as a weapon.
As Robert rounded the corner, passing his uncle,
Ernie swung a heavy shovel,
smashing the creature in the head as it rounded the corner.
Get his ass.
It sank to the ground like a lead balloon.
World star!
Crumpling to the floor.
They had it coming. They had it coming.
They had it coming.
This is crazy.
There is a Looney Tunes wacky races scene playing out before us,
but a deadly one of a paranormal nature.
I mean, it's kind of crazy to see alien human combat, unquote taking place at this level recently we had an
episode which was the mantel ufo incident which was basically a u.s fighter jet in a dog fight
against an unidentified flying object that sounds cool and real and official this is an uncle
hitting an alien with a shovel in the face this is a different this is on
the this is boots on the ground combat you know this is that unk combat get them unk which you
know inevitably would happen if aliens invaded the world our world you know in the movies all
we see is like the space fights and laser guns and stuff. And the authorities getting involved.
It would get to a point after a couple months where you're just fist fighting greys in a dive bar.
They've come up a lot recently.
I'm not just throwing it in there for the sake of it, but it's a borderline dad squad initiative to combat the local paranormal threats.
For real.
Just hopping in your pickup truck and seeing how many you can hit on the way to the liquor store.
Is it legal?
No.
But did it save little Robert's life?
Potentially.
No.
I mean, potentially.
Sure.
I don't know the rest of the story.
Well, you're about to hear it.
It's like his uncle threw the shovel to the side,
looked down on the ground.
It was Robert.
He hit Robert.
He missed.
I mean, attacking a creature like this with a shovel is great
because you don't only have the weapon,
you've got the tool to hide the body.
It's a Swiss army knife of murder.
The only way it could have been faster is if you killed the grey with a body bag.
If you just zipped him into
a body bag alive and buried him there was an amazing kind of documentary put together by i
believe a man called richplanet.net and this is where we actually got the interviews with robert
from ah i see he actually went to the exact place where all of this took place,
interviewed Robert and got Robert to like walk him through the different locations,
including the exact corner where Robert's uncle whacked this alien with a shovel.
The alien hit the ground so hard you can still see his face print in the concrete.
Yeah, there's a radioactive scar burnt into the pavement.
Absolutely incredible.
Robert's uncle, Ernie Wren, had killed the creature with a coal shovel.
This is the precise spot where the alien was hit over the head with the shovel.
Boosh!
He properly goes for it.
20 minutes later, according to Robert,
a vehicle took the dead creature's body to a place where it could be hidden
until authorities were informed.
According to him, the hiding place was underneath St Cuthbert's church on Bensham Road,
about half a mile from here.
You just buried him. You didn't hide him, you buried him.
He said there were steps at the back of the church which led underneath,
down which the alien was taken and then stored for three months.
I'm just standing now at the top of the steps
by the side of the church where the alien was taken.
I'm just going to go down the steps.
Hello?
I'm just going to go down the steps.
Hello.
That's a little chamber which is about,
let's say about 12 feet by 8 feet.
And we're just,
we're underneath the floor of the church here.
If you can see this.
An ideal place to store a dead alien.
All right, I got to pause it right there.
No one has ever described a room before as a great place to store a dead alien.
If someone says that to you, if a real estate agent says that to you when you're looking at a property, turn the f*** around.
Oh my God.
They couldn't have picked a weirder place to store this thing
under the floorboards of an old church?
It is something we have seen in stories before.
I can't remember it off the top of my head,
but in at least one episode of This Paranormal Life,
an alien has been given a Christian burial.
That's true, yeah.
Because people don't know what to do
with them i guess if you are dealing with something that in your very sheltered life feels
evil bringing it to a church is maybe a good thing to do but it's dead it's from the description it
sounds like he killed it with a shovel he didn didn't just knock it out. He properly like hammered it like a nail.
I like the idea of Rory being the authorities here.
Like, please.
And just because you lived a very sheltered life,
don't assume that it's an evil being.
Or like, it's just in here.
Holy, burn it, burn it, send it to hell.
It's just so hideous and evil looking.
This is like a f***ed up real world version of E.T., the extraterrestrial.
Where a little gray came to Earth.
We killed it with a shovel and buried it under a church.
We didn't try and get it home.
We were so scared of it.
It's like the viral tweet we've mentioned before.
It's like if I had seen E.T. as a child, we would have killed it with hammers.
I could tell you that much.
Can you imagine thinking that you had killed this thing,
you dragged it under the church,
and then that Sunday you and your family are there,
you know, attending the sermon,
and the priest is like,
Welcome all to the service.
We will be studying chapters Mark through John 1-5.
You see her under the floorboards?
Wait around a minute.
Now all please
rise and join us
as we sing
a local hymn.
Quiet at the back.
Quiet at the back. You guys hear something?
No, I think it's
I just love the Lord so much. Robert's sweating.
I just love the Lord so much. Sometimes I
it's a braggaroon. There's sweating. I just love the Lord so much. Sometimes I, it's a braggaroon.
It's a braggaroon.
There's laser bullets
firing up through the floorboards
like a Western saloon.
Pew, pew.
Yeah.
The alien bursts
through a stained glass window.
The crowd screams and disperses.
The priest doesn't know what's doing.
He has risen.
Yeah.
Interesting choice for sure. But in fairness i don't know if i
would know where to take the corpse of an alien yeah it sounds like uh look i don't think they
really brought it here because of the fact that it was a church i think this was just a secluded
area that robert and his uncle knew about where they could take this thing until they knew what
to do with it, basically.
I don't know if I'm taking it anywhere.
I feel like I'm calling the police
and leaving it where I saw it.
There's a war going on, kid.
We're trying to fight the Germans.
You know, I think.
I don't remember which one this was
or what was going on.
We were trying to fight someone.
The boys got enough on their plate.
Boys?
The boys. The soldiers got enough on their plate boys the boys the soldiers got enough on
their plate i think without telling them they need to clear some space on their plate because
this is a priority if anything i think we should also tell the germans and this might actually
unite us as one force in the years following the incident was swept under the rug completely
and robert is really the only one who's come
forward in the last few years. Of course, something to look out for. Has he made any
money from telling this story? No. If anything, as we saw, he's been laughed at and ridiculed.
Judging by the production value of the documentary you showed me,
I don't think there was a big paycheck for starring in that one.
I don't think there was a paycheck at all.
Now, of course, one of the problems with his story
is that he really doesn't have any concrete proof
that these events took place.
I was going to say, we're kind of large.
I mean, I'll be honest.
I was surprised that Unk turned up at all.
I thought we were going to be stuck with one person's testimony.
Yeah, unfortunately, Uncle Ernie is no longer with us. So even in the documentary, they weren't able
to reach out to him for a comment. I will say the closest thing that Robert did have was a perfectly
symmetrical triangular mark imprinted on his face that stayed with him from the age of 5 to 13
before it disappeared completely.
Jesus Christ.
Kind of weird.
But again, it's gone.
We don't have pictures of it, you know?
Again, there was a war.
We were thinking about other things.
We weren't photographing children at the time.
Between 1941 and 1945, if you told your parents you saw Bigfoot and he branded you with a hot iron,
they would say, shut up and go get us some provisions.
Yeah, if you tell them you saw Bigfoot, they just ask, was he German?
And if you say no, they don't care.
They would say, that was a German sniper in a ghillie suit.
It's a miracle you're alive.
That was a German sniper in a ghillie suit.
It's a miracle you're alive.
One thing we can do is talk about other paranormal UFO cases that took place around this area.
To establish a pattern, if you will.
Yeah.
A soldier based at Cresswell, Northumberland in 1942 claimed that they witnessed a large disc over the sea before he was hit by a yellow beam of light and passed out.
Years later, he recalled being in the presence of several strange-looking men
and a woman-like figure,
as well as being examined by an entity wearing a surgeon's mask.
What the hell?
There is so little rhyme or reason to this collection of people.
During the 1960s, strange sightings in the sky over Gateshead included a silver saucer the size of a car,
shining pink discs, shimmering silver objects, and a roving fireball.
Alright, so Gateshead is a bit of a paranormal hotspot, allegedly.
Yeah, I mean, Robert is the only one who is really promoting this story,
allegedly. Yeah, I mean, Robert is the only one who is really promoting this story. But if you look into it, there's a lot of stories from other individuals claiming that they saw crafts or even
stories from other children saying that they saw little green men roaming about when they were
kids. What does this mean? Why do you think this area in particular? Is there a disused mine shaft to the center of the earth? Is there a rip
in the time-space continuum? Is there a local mushroom infection that everyone's tripping out?
I have literally no idea. And it's never even really explained. I mean, that's the difference
between, let's say, poltergeists and UFO activity. Poltergeists or ghosts or hauntings, it's all kind of based in
history and motivation. There's usually a reason for the creature being or the spirit being there,
a reason why they're doing the hauntings, maybe even some similarities in the type of haunting
they're doing. You know, they were hung here a hundred years ago, so now their ghost floats like it's dangling from a noose.
Bigfoot and a guy in a scuba suit abducting children in the middle of an estate.
Bigfoot didn't live here 100 years ago.
I don't know why this is happening.
Yeah, I don't think he knows he's in Gates' head.
No, he definitely doesn't.
Yeah, UFO abductions and sightings are, for the most part,
a lot more sporadic than hauntings are.
And I'm going to go ahead and say I wouldn't be doing my job
if I didn't also play the role of the skeptic in today's case.
And unfortunately, Robert's a liar.
There's a lot to be skeptical about.
Even though today's story sounded insane,
I left a lot of stuff out
that would make this story even more wild.
Let's hear it out.
We need to see all the evidence,
so just run us by something,
any of Robert's details.
It could be the linchpin that ties the whole case together.
Well, don't...
Sure, maybe.
But, like, let's not expect that from what's next because it might not be, though.
It might be something that makes it even worse.
But, you know, if what we're lacking is evidence, you know, surely more intel, more info could help.
We'll give it a shot.
Yeah.
Robert claims that he and another child was abducted on board the egg.
Okay.
Another witness.
They've never been able to find that child or whoever it was.
Maybe they disintegrated them.
He says that after disembarking from the egg, he ran back to the soldiers and pulled one of them to come check out all the little creatures
one of the soldiers saw the creatures and started firing at it with a handgun i mean i might
meaning i had a handgun meaning everyone scattered in the neighborhood uh actually there's another
part that i forgot to mention i think when he came off the egg, he said that there was a dog that was barking aggressively at a group of girls.
And he claimed that he grabbed an implement, quote unquote, hanging from one of the alien's tool belts and fired it at the dog, which immediately fell docile.
Right. So.
So he. OK. Yeah. i don't know if this ties
anything together no i mean it's it's a weird little unnecessary twist to add and i it's like
i was abducted and uh oh yeah on the way out i shot a dog with a laser gun and it almost died
i don't know if I appreciate or understand
why the aliens have a Batman utility belt.
I don't know either.
But I mean, if they're little greys,
Robert's five foot, so he could reach it at least
because they're probably similar height.
That's true.
But I see what you're saying and getting at,
which is that we may only have a story worth telling here by not telling the full story.
Yes, I'm telling you the core events and what we what I've left out are the sprinkles of details that ironically add skepticism rather than more information to the case. I mean, even the alien, I read Robert's interview.
I read news articles in that interview that we heard about.
I think the guy said the alien was in the church for three months before it went.
He did. He did say that.
I've read other accounts where, I don't know if it was Robert,
but some people claim the thing was gone in 30 minutes.
So we didn't kill it.
It disappeared.
It ran away.
Or someone came and grabbed it.
Did they say what happened after the three months?
No, again, it just disappeared.
There was no, which is kind of crazy because I feel like three months is enough time for you to kind of digest the situation.
Yes.
And be like, even two months, be like, okay, it's still down there.
Let's at least like take a bit of skin or, you know, look at it or poke it.
Get a single piece of evidence.
Tell one other person.
Yeah.
I mean, sure.
Robert maybe doesn't need to do that, but Uncle Ernie is a grown man.
A grown man who has killed an alien.
Uncle Ernie's a drinker.
He forgot about it, the whole thing, pretty quickly afterwards.
There's enough kind of changing parts to this story that definitely make it hard to believe.
I mean, especially the fact that Robert, who's essentially now the only one telling you every detail of the story, was five years old at the time.
telling you every detail of the story was five years old at the time i right which to be clear is like i don't know if i remember i think my earliest possible memories of being alive are
around five years five years old and i was a little liar as well by the way you would just
make shit up i mean like even my uh nephew uh I hang out, he's like two coming three soon.
He just lies. Yeah. He doesn't know what lies are. Yeah. My niece comes home from school
and you'll be like, oh, what did you get up to at school today? And she'll be like this
and this and this and this, tell you a whole story. And then her grandmother will be like,
none of that. She just made that all up on the spot none of that happened she's like you gotta believe me unky kit i hit an
alien with a shovel she's a wackadoo the teacher is a man in black none of her happened uh i also
but if she thinks of going to the russians nothing happened but if she thinks of going to the russians
with this i'm also just gonna throw out another spicy hot take here.
Seeing as we're talking about
such wild conclusions as
aliens and Bigfoot being friends.
Yeah.
Let's talk about
another spicy conclusion.
Uncle Ernie killed someone
with a bat.
Be it a dog or a person.
And then to get off the hook,
told everyone that the blood stains and the blood covered
shovel and the blood covered crypt in the church were from an alien.
Weird they bleed like us.
Weird they bleed red like us humans do.
And they have like a f***ed up alien power, which is they can actually morph into a human
body and impersonate the postman.
Yeah, I mean, this is, I don't want to say that's a theory we should entertain,
but there's a real world here where a real man died.
And Uncle Ernie told little Robert a very exciting tale to explain the events of the day.
And how you can't tell anyone about the alien in the church that we buried together.
Look, I don't think we need to dance around it for much longer.
I think it's time for conclusions.
Okay.
Kit, we have a crazy story today.
I mean, it's a wild one.
It's a great one.
I had a lot of fun investigating it and telling it to you today.
me it's a wild one it's a great one i had a lot of fun investigating it and telling it to you today but ultimately is this too wild for us to consider to be a real story yes i mean oh okay i was gonna
like yes i was gonna like talk about we have interviews with ernie we have interviews with
robert himself yes we don't have interviews with ernie. We don't. You just made that up.
You're a little liar.
You're turning back into your five-year-old self.
We have interviews with Ernie?
I saw it.
I was there.
Ah, f*** it.
Yeah, this is nuts, isn't it?
You know, I love this.
This feels like a return to form.
This feels like classic tpl
because let's face it this is not an outlier many of the uk and across the world some of the most
famous well-known paranormal tales are just as wild as this or even wilder we've covered so many
of them yeah um doesn't mean they're necessarily not true but yeah i think we all agree in this
instance that we've got nothing to go on here.
That's it, man.
I think that's what, you know,
that's what we ultimately have to do
at the end of our episode is with our knowledge,
with the evidence that we've managed to find,
we have to come to our own conclusions.
And you know, if we hear the word gray,
we're automatically primed to give a yes.
Yeah.
It's almost like Robert gave us too
much. It's like when you eat too much cake, your mouth starts to hurt because it's so sweet.
That's what we've been given today is every cryptid under God's green earth arriving in an
egg and harassing a child. And with that in mind, if this is true, God bless you, Robert.
You have a cursed life.
A hundred percent.
Hey, I will say I watched that entire interview and documentary with Robert and the guy's
in good form.
You know, whether or not he even believes it a hundred percent, he's happy to talk about
it.
He's happy to just tell the story to strangers.
And I'm glad to see that even, I mean, if this did happen, it was quite a traumatic thing.
But he seems to be able to joke about it and have fun with it.
So I hope he wouldn't be too upset with our conclusion that we've come to today, which is, of course, a double no.
Yeah, I like his attitude.
I feel like he'd just be like, it doesn't matter to me whether you believe it.
I know what happens.
And we'd be like, fair play, Robert.
Fair play.
You've got to.
I mean, those are your two options
is you become that person who's like,
hasn't slept in weeks.
You've got to believe me.
I'm sorry.
Nothing matters.
Jobs don't matter.
Nothing is real.
Or you just got to be like,
hey, this is f***ed.
But hey, I still still gotta go to work
on Monday
so I gotta pay the bills
I'll keep telling the story
but
probably people
aren't gonna believe me
my buddies I golf with
they
they're sick of hearing it
but it is true
that's his like
this one time
at band camp story
he's like
there was this one time
don't
don't bring up
the greys again
I've heard it so many times but they told me this funny story that one time don't bring up the greys again I've heard it so many times
but they told me
this funny story
that one time
on Gishmergan
planet Gishmergan
they did this shit
did I mention Bigfoot was there?
I did didn't I?
yes
yes
every time you mention he's there
alright just being sure
just making sure
they had great taste in music too
so unfortunately
even though it is a double no this week that's one hell of a story i'm so
glad that we actually got around to investigating it hell yeah you gotta love that british level of
slapstick violence hitting an alien with a shovel dude i loved it they obviously kind of put together
this documentary that was to tell the story of robert but that host really enjoyed pretending
to hit an alien with a shovel.
Wah!
He begged the editor not to cut that from the documentary.
I'm going to load it up one more time.
I think when we tweet about this episode going on,
I think we're going to need to queue up that clip.
Even as a gif?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
All right, I'm loading it up one more time
because I want to listen to it.
This is the precise spot where the alien
was hit over the head with the shovel.
Boosh!
Because he gives it a stack.
Boosh!
He properly swings it as well.
Boosh!
Incredible.
Incredible.
Dad squad behavior.
That's some real dad squad behavior.
Thank you so much, folks, for listening to this week's episode of This Paranormal Life.
I had a great time.
Kit had a great time.
As I said, where would I rather be on my birthday than hanging out with y'all,
enjoying a great paranormal tale?
On the beach, on your own, with one AirPod.
And I know that everyone out there is going to be like,
oh, Rory, we want to give you a present for your birthday.
Kit got you those sick AirPods.
Like, how do we give you a present?
They might make you sick.
They're so goddamn dirty.
Everyone's like, give us your address.
How do we send you a present?
I can't do that.
I can't give you my address.
But there is a way that you can give me a birthday present.
Oh, interesting.
And that's by giving us a little review over on your podcast
app of choice, whether that's iTunes, whether that's Spotify, head on over. And if you're
enjoying the show, give us a couple of stars and, uh, don't give us a couple of stars. Well,
five, if you're feeling generous, great. If you want to give less than five,
send Rory a present instead. yeah definitely less than five i'll
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something you like about me or the show that might be more helpful for people discovering the show
or like both you know just be like the improv is great and I really enjoy tuning in every week for a brand new paranormal tale.
Also, Rory's got pretty sexy eyes.
Well, they wouldn't know that because it's not a visual medium.
I think they can tell.
I think you can tell I got stunners.
Two stunning balls in my skull.
Or, you know, that was just an example.
Just be like, hey, his voice is like smooth caramel.
Also, the show's fine.
Five stars. Yeah, okay. know that was just an example just be like hey his voice is like smooth caramel also the show's fine five stars yeah okay something like just a little present to me so i can read the reviews and be like oh my god like feel the love you know like it's like a cool thing where i get complimented
on my appearance are you getting to like see your family this this this birthday no they don't
really talk to me much anymore unless they left a review and i just haven't read it yet which could be cool because there are some mean ones on there for sure so
that could be them okay that could definitely be them like one star bad brother signed colon yeah
i saw that the show shit too also signed colon yeah the show is actually pretty good but you're
an awful son okay you're sincerely mom. That might be from her.
I can't tell. Cause like everyone has a mom. So it's like, it could be anyone's mom.
Seems a little more personal than that though, doesn't it?
You're a bad son. So yeah. Yeah. As I said, it's, it's the gift that you can give us for free.
And it really does a lot of help growing the show and getting
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us on patreon a whole nother level of support and as one of the rewards on those tiers we like to
give you your very own shout out at the end of the podcast let's go Special thank you to Brandon Thurber. Brandon
Thurber loves to murmur.
Even if you just ask him his name, he's like,
well, I know my f***ing name.
And you're like, oh, chill out, buddy.
I'm just asking you a question. I don't want any
questions. I think that's just
how he talks. He can't get above a murmur.
Interesting. Does he also like to
mumble? Oh, he loves to mumble.
He's like... Yeah, it's really... Is he just trying to goble? Oh he loves to mumble He's like Yeah it's really
It's unnerving
He could be
Thank you too Stuart McConnell
Come on down to Stuart's Dirt
We got dirt of every kind
We got gravel
Soil
Dust
Cool
That's a lot of shit you can get
Just outside
So it's not a great business model
Alright bud D dirt's everywhere.
It's what Earth is.
Where are you going to get 10,000 kilograms of dirt in 30 minutes?
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Thank you to Georgina Torres.
Whatever you've done in life,
no matter how dirty you are, if you've just
come from the scene of a crime, Georgina
will clean ya.
Scene of a crime? Just examples.
If you've just
hit an alien or man
with a shovel and you need to
make sure you don't have any DNA on your
body, Georgina will clean ya.
If you have committed tax fraud on a corporate level, millions and millions of pounds,
Georgina will clean your account.
She will.
Legally or the other way.
That's her slogan.
Thank you to Danielle Carter.
Danielle loves to barter.
Nice.
There's nothing she likes more than going down to a market
And saying how much for that
They say 50 bucks
And she says I'll give you 55
They go what
And then she steals it and runs away
In that moment of confusion
She just
She gets them
That's when she acts
Not really bartering
That's theft
And riddles I think
What are criminals in our midst
Yeah
Thanks to Matthew Pickles.
Matthew's in a bit of a pickle,
because he swung a shovel at what he thought was a grey,
and turned out to be a fully grown man.
Oh, the postman?
Oh, yeah, but don't worry, Mr. Pickles,
because Georgina will clean you,
and everything will be okay.
Thanks to Rancor Man 7.
The Rancor Man 7?
They're my favorite big band.
Oh, boy.
This is insane.
I mean, these guys are like 90 years old.
They are veterans.
They're still going.
The Rancor Man 7.
That is...
What kind of music is it?
It's music for rancors.
It is.
It's...
Do you remember?
From Star Wars?
The giant beast from Star Wars.
That's right.
I don't think that thing has ears.
I think it's just teeth and arms.
It's a lot of rumbling.
It really is.
More power to you guys.
Thank you to Holo.
Holo, hola at your boy.
Because you may be entitled to compensation
if you've been recently hit by a shovel.
It's been a problem affecting many in our community lately.
There is an epidemic of some description.
We don't know if it's down to one person.
We think it is.
We think it was pickles.
But if you've been left hit with a shovel feeling hollow inside,
you know what to do.
Get in touch.
Extra money is available if he left you in a crypt for three months.
Thanks also to Slave for the Queen.
Slave for the Queen, another hardcore rock and roll band
playing music exclusively for rancors.
Oh, yeah.
They don't so much as like play music as they do just toss instruments into the pit.
And sometimes just meat.
They toss meat into the pit.
Thank you to Hannah Bolton.
Hannah is always Bolton.
Her front door is closed. Makes makes sense you don't know what's
out there could be a guy with a shovel just waiting
for you it's just annoying
because like every day you have to then take all
the bolts off and just to like go get
a glass of milk and then you come back and
bolt it back up again where are you going to
get a glass of milk
going out to like get a glass of milk or
or are you a cat are you going to get a glass of milk? Just going out to like get a glass of milk or a...
Are you a cat?
Are you going to your neighbor's garden?
A cat or tuna, a glass of milk.
Yeah.
Thanks to Luke Cullen.
Luke out!
There's a man with a shovel and he's culling.
He's culling for you.
Jesus, man.
We need to...
I was starting to regret Distributing shovels
To every man
Woman and child
In the commune
We wanted to do it
So they could dig
For more rocks
Yeah
Well not just rocks
Gold minerals
Yeah sure
Some rocks
Because
Oh I told him
It was just rocks
I told people
Just dig for rocks
Is that why Luke
Showed up my front door
With just a basket of rocks
I don't need these.
I told them they could keep the golden minerals for themselves.
Oh, f***ing hell.
He was dripping in ice.
Thanks to Christopher Groom.
Here comes the groom with the shovel.
Not again.
On his wedding day.
Surely you have more important things to be tending to
Christopher but go off king
I've heard of a shotgun wedding
But a shovel wedding
Thanks to Ms Boogie
Ms Boogie a legendary
A truly legendary
Songstress of the
Rancor music scene
Came up in the underground
Rancor concerts R. What kind of... Came up in the underground rancor concerts.
Rancors having mosh pits,
which is a real terrifying sight
to behold.
Yeah, because underground,
there's a lot of rancors.
That's kind of their whole shtick.
Oh, man.
Awesome.
We've got to go see her live
at some point.
That sounds amazing.
Thanks, lastly, but not leastly,
today to Victoria.
All gloria to Queen Victoria.
She was sort of like a fake royal queen that we installed in the commune
to kind of take all of the criticism and abuse from the public
when Kit and I were kind of the puppet masters behind the scenes.
Yeah, we figured it worked pretty well for Queen Lizzie II.
People like her,
but it turns out that people like her
because of her personality and actions.
Yeah.
Whereas our Victoria,
the crown went to her head pretty fast.
She began whipping peasants a lot faster than we did.
Yeah.
And we're pretty nasty with it.
So apologies, her reign has come to an end.
We're looking for a new queen
of the commune.
Applications,
please respond.
And you can also email in cases
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I hope you enjoyed this week's episode.
And of course, you know your boys will be back next Tuesday with another paranormal tale.