This Paranormal Life - #306 Vrykolakas - Why Were These Ancient Bodies Nailed to the Floor?

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

Grave robbing is one of mankind's oldest professions. It's like taking candy from a baby, if the baby was an ancient Egyptian Pharaoh and the candy was all the cool sh*t they were buried with. But 33 years ago, a team of Italian archeologists dug up a little more than they could handle. They discovered a hidden necropolis, where those who were buried inside had been NAILED to the earth. Why? It's time for Rory and Kit to investigate...Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Phil Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If clouds are made of water, why aren't they blue? Why is it called silly putty when I take it seriously? Answers to these questions and more on this episode of This Paranormal Life! Hello everyone and welcome to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week myself and my co-investigator kit greer investigate a brand new paranormal tale and come to a conclusion as to whether or not it's true or it's baloney we have been doing this for longer than some of you little f**kers have been alive when you were when you were asking for blankie and sucking on nip nips. I was out in the forest looking for Bigfoot

with binoculars and a gun. Rory, sometimes I wonder if we're actually running a New York deli instead of investigating the paranormal. Because there's a lot of f***ing baloney. It's true. You know, in this line of profession, it's very rare that you actually come across a case that is 100% certified paranormal.

It does happen now and again. We do end up with a double yes at the end of the episode. And hey, maybe this week we're heading into one. We don't know. Yeah. If this is your first episode, do not be discouraged. This isn't Most Haunted. This isn't one of those trashy paranormal shows where they tease you every five minutes, dangling paranormal evidence that never comes sorry i should clarify the evidence never comes here either but we do sometimes decide that it actually is paranormal anyway uh kit are you ready to dive into a paranormal case today i am almost ready it's just been uh i've had quite a big week actually so i

the slight update is that uh i'm actually getting orthodontist work. So as you can see, I've got my Invisalign bag here. And yeah, I'm getting Invisalign done. So I'll just give you just two seconds. Many people don't know what Invisalign is. Should we explain it on the podcast? Sure. Ghost braces is essentially, I think, the technical term for it.

Yeah, we're all familiar with braces. Invisalign, the general idea is that they're braces that you can take in and out. They're kind of see-through plastic things. I couldn't afford Invisalign, so I actually got Visalign, where it's extremely visible, extremely visible. It's like wearing a high-vis jacket on your teeth. Your kit basically glows in the dark now. Yeah, I went to my local orthodontist. They showed me the pricing sheet, and I almost slapped them in the face. So I went online, and I found my Uzbekistani orthodontist, Alfred. I don't think that's his real name. And he put me in touch with the people who could get me Vizalign.

Vizalign. So he didn't even do it. V-I-Z-A-L-I-N-G. Yeah, Viz. High Vizalign. That's just braces, right? So I'm just going to— Visible Invisalign? That's just braces, surely.

I just need to pop them in. So yeah, I asked Alfred that. He couldn't. He actually just kind of talked in riddles around in circles. I couldn't really get to the bottom of it. All right, but before you pop them in, I just want to say those are huge. And I'm just a little worried that they might impact the audio of the podcast. So I'll just pop them in.

Okay. And here we go. And as you can see, absolutely no difference whatsoever. So let's get stuck into today's podcast. I think maybe if you're going to keep them in, maybe we stay away from S's on today's podcast. You're being serious right now? I am being serious, yeah. I'm not going to be able to stay away from S's.

You gave me a heads up about what we're basically going to say. It's pretty super secret. So many S's. This is the most S's. This is more S's than you usually say it sounds like you're making an effort this is unbelievable this is silly

these superstitions are sanctimonious I am of course f***ing about it they're not that bad but if you do notice a slight difference Alfred tells me it'll only be a few days till I get used to them any sensible podcaster would have got this kind of work done weeks in advance of needing to podcast. I got it one day, one day in advance of needing to podcast.

It was yesterday. It was yesterday. Yeah, for those who don't know, Kit and I had the proposal of a This Paranormal Life TV show dangled in front of us ever so gently. And even though it was viably never going to happen, we decided it was. So I got plastic surgery the next morning to get ready for the big screen. Kit has visible Invisalign on his teeth. We're trying to have a glow up so that when the big screen comes calling, we're ready to go.. Visalign, pec implants, ab implants, buckle fat removal, of course.

Eyebrow lift, eyebrow lower because we went a bit too far the last time. Of course, of course, yeah. And needless to say, once the TV execs saw us, they withdrew the contract. Yeah, yeah. They were kind of like, all right, so those are the monsters

that you're investigating. Where are the two paranormal investigators? He's like, no, it's us. We're the investigators. I'm the investigator. Sorry, investigator. Sorry, I'm getting used to your visual eye. We're looking good.

We're feeling good. That's the point. We've got to get into today's case. And even if we're not there physically, mentally, I'm sharp as a blade, baby. And I'm ready to dive into a paranormal case. But first, a quick word from today's sponsors. Today's story begins in 1990 on the island of Sicily. A team of Italian archaeologists were excavating in the mountains,

looking for the ruins of the lost city of Camarina, an ancient Greek civilization that existed on the island back as early as 800 BC. I should clarify, Sicily, of course, is in Italy today, but 800 BCE was colonized by the Greeks. That's why they're looking for a Greek civilization in Italy. The leader of the excavation was Giovanni di Stefano, who watched over his team as they hammered away at the rock, chiseling through layers of history and deep into the past. What I'm hearing is he is Indiana Jones. Right, just mentioning excavation, archaeology,

and a guy that's in charge of it all, he's gonna at least have a whip and a pretty cool hat. And that guy over there is our boss, Giovanni. Oh, that's cool. Does he know the most about archaeology? No, but he has a revolver. That makes him the boss. That makes him the boss. Keep going, men.

We must be getting close now. I can feel it. The pickaxes hit the rocks again and again and again until... Over here! There's an entrance! The men cleared a passageway and headed inside. They had just discovered a site known as Paso Marinaro, a cavernous crypt of an ancient Greek civilization that had laid untouched for generations. Paso Marinaro? I thought that was

a type of Subway sandwich bread. This is every explorer's dream to find an ancient grave that remains untouched for generations. It's also every grave robber's dream. Man, this was probably back in the golden age of archaeology

because... Oh, it was golden, brother. Trust me. Because from all I've heard about life as an archaeologist today is that you study grueling hours for many years to try and become an archaeologist. And then you spend probably the rest of your life in a dusty, dirty field, mining and mining and mining to hopefully, if you're lucky, find a fragment of a Roman pot.

Yeah, it's always pots. If you're finding an entrance to an unknown civilization, wow, that's beyond jackpot. Yeah, it really is. I mean, I'm not saying that I would rob these graves if I had found this site. You just seem to be honing in on that quite a bit. I'm just saying I'm going to take a little souvenir. You know, I put a lot of work in to find this thing. I a bit. I'm just saying, I'm going to take a little souvenir. You know, I put a lot of work in to find this thing. I'm going to take a little souvenir.

I'm going to take a little coin, a little ring, a little gold tooth, a little golden goblet, whatever I can get my hands on. Rory's entering the tomb with one of his colleagues and just really conspicuously drops a 50 on the ground behind him. His colleague's like, hey, you dropped something. Oh, oh, did I? Oh, oh, was that that come out of my pocket?

Oh, why don't you keep it? In fact, why don't you just make yourself busy for a little half an hour, an hour, something like that and let old Roar Dog just do a little

recon mission. Just check it out. Make sure it's safe for half an hour. And then once I'm done, you guys can maybe come in and take a look around and do all the science stuff.

They come back after a coffee break and they're like did you find anything rory no it's pretty boring around here i'm gonna head back to town see you later guys fill to the brim coins leaking behind me in a trail uh look all i'm gonna say is how come when i go to disneyland and i leave with a mickey mouse fridge magnet it's a souvenir but all of a sudden if i take some f**kers golden tooth from an ancient grave i gotta stop suddenly i'm a thief suddenly i'm a bad man because you paid for the souvenir i hope i hope you paid jokes on you mother i ganked it straight in front of mickey's eyes he didn't see me well both are stealing then. One is not better than the other. I just think it's a little hypocritical.

That's all I'm going to say. We are so lucky as a nation that you are not an archaeologist. Some people like to send postcards back to their families when they go visit a new place. I like to send my P.O. box a bag of doubloons. Is that so different?

The f***ed up thing is, as ridiculous as Rory seems, that is the attitude of every man, woman and child that existed in the past. We've even covered it on This Paranormal Life before. Even Carter and all the famous Egyptologists from Britain who went

there to, granted, steal many things in their own way. They were about a thousand years too late. Every tomb everywhere on Earth has already been raided many, granted, steal many things in their own way. They were about a thousand years too late. Yeah. Every tomb everywhere on Earth has already been raided many, many, many times over. Pretty much. I mean, hey, humans, we love to steal.

These men luckily were professionals. They're not here to rob graves. They're here to discover them and study them. So they entered the tomb, and what they saw they couldn't believe. I don't believe. I don't believe it! It's the necropolis! It's huge! The sight was enormous. In fact, almost 3,000 human remains were discovered there.

Oh my god. The men picked up their tools and began to excavate. Hours and hours passed as they uncovered burial after burial that's another one with no burial container fascinating one might expect a civilization this old to have a more consistent death ritual but we've got coffins sarcophagi private crypts they were clearly more advanced than we ever could have imagined just fascinating suddenly a series of gasps and panicked murmurs erupted from one corner of the crypt. Sir! Sir!

There's something you need to see! Went a little bit into the count there from Sesame Street, I will admit. My Italian accent can be improved. Something you need to see. One crypt, two crypt, three crypt, all in a row. Dracula was a pretty old guy, I seem to remember. He might have lived a few different lives over the years.

Yeah. How did he afford that mansion in Romania? Now I think about it. He lived everywhere. Romania, Transylvania, Sesame Street. Giovanni approached the circle of men hunched around one grave. He pushed his way to the front and crouched low over the burial, eager to find out what the commotion was about. And it wasn't hard to miss.

This body wasn't just buried. It was pinned to the ground. The head and the feet of the skeleton were underneath massive slabs of ceramic, trapping the body below. And these slabs were huge. It would have taken at least three or four men to lift them, whoever or whatever this person was. The people who dug this grave wanted to make sure they stayed down there this is a pretty bad thing to come across when digging up graves best case scenario you find a body which is still pretty f***ed up finding no body that's also kind of weird because there should have been a body in the grave and then the highest tier is finding a body that looks like it should have never been dug up. And yet you have dug it up.

Time to start filling in that hole, guys. And then backing slowly out of the crypt and building that wall back up, pretending like you never came in there. Yeah, our lead archaeologist pointed out earlier that there were some various and very interesting different funeral rites and rituals going on. All I'm saying is how interesting do the funeral rites have to get before you start pouring concrete down into that hole? Right, to make sure they stay down there. Giovanni was mulling over what the hell it could all mean. Perhaps it was some kind of ritual killing.

Maybe he'd become a drain on resources, so they weighed him down and left him here to die. It just doesn't make sense. But before Giovanni could reach an answer, another man cried out, Oh my God, it's another one! Sorry, don't laugh. Sorry, it's Dracula again.

No. It's a different vampire. Look, I'm trying my best. I was forthcoming with the fact that my Italian accent isn't great and I don't appreciate being mocked, okay? Because I'm trying my best here. All I'm saying is it would be fine if we weren't talking about potential undead creatures underground here.

The men rushed over to find another skeleton trapped under the sheets of stone. Christ alive. This one was only a child. Why would they do this? If finding a second grave like this wasn't scary enough, this smaller body was being held down by even more slabs than the first. All right, I do not follow. I do not follow. What is going on here, Kit?

From finding these graves, it seems like whatever circumstance these people were buried in, it seems like people were pretty worried they were going to come back up out of the grave. Unfortunately, I don't think this is even the first time that we've come across something like this. I think we've seen this in previous cases where I think back when people were a bit more literally scared of vampires and zombies and things like that, whether it's a voodoo tradition or whatever from around the world. And we have seen things like that, whether it's a voodoo tradition or whatever from around the world. And we have seen things like people, whether it's removing heads or putting stakes and things like that through them. So there's definitely a paranormal precedent going on here, but I don't know. Is it literally that they're just, they think they're going to rise

from the dead and they're trying to stop them? Yeah. It's a weird mix as well, where you obviously cared enough about this person to give them a burial. So we want to do it right. We're going to get a priest, read them some scripture. All the friends and family will gather. We'll lower them into the grave. Then we'll drop a big f***ing rock on them because I think they might come back. And we all loved them. Hey, we all loved them when we were alive. No one said we didn't love them. But someone needs to crush that child. Someone needs to kill him again.

Can you imagine what that funeral service was like? John, I just miss you so much, buddy. Stay the f*** down there, though. Don't you f***ing... Don't even think about it. And we know he was a fighter because in life, man, the way he stood up for his friends and family

and loved ones was inspirational. Yeah. Known for his undying resolve unfortunately that's the boulders in life in his work you couldn't keep him down in death though we we pray we pray to god that he stays down death keep him down keep him down lord or the. Or the devil. We don't know. We don't know yet. Yeah, it's this funny mix where you're trying to be respectful and also live in constant fear they might come back. Me and John, we just, we were like brothers, you know?

We spent every day at each other's houses just shooting the shit. I have moved, though, John. I've moved house, so you don't know where I f***ing live anymore, so don't even try it. Yeah, the priest at the service is like, and in death may he finally find peace and resolution for all of his problems

in beautiful serenity. Priest takes out a sledgehammer. Yeah! The skull explodes like a watermelon yeah that ought to do it he ain't getting up now i mean fill her in boys you do make a good point though because if today we had this fear which we don't tend to we would at the funeral put a grenade in your coat pocket and just see you into the next life that way just explode you with dynamite yeah and then there's no coming back we wouldn't risk keeping you in one piece yeah lowering the coffin into the grave also ignites a fuse we just drop the box in the ground and everyone kind of scatters uh that's how we do funerals in the paranormal commune

because we think everyone should go out with a blast. So now we've just been, you know, in true Rory style, strapping people to fireworks and just setting them up. Bodies, not people. Bodies. Setting bodies. Not live people. We're not putting people. We're not crazy.

Anything. Only the dead. And traitors, sometimes. And people who don't stay in line. Sorry, I'm getting a little... You think just traitors? Yeah, no, no. I'm getting a little fired up now. I'm saying shit that I shouldn't be saying.

People, just, not people, bodies. Only bodies. The bodies of those who defy our orders. Stop talking. I'm just, be careful, just stay in line, as I'm saying if you're in the paranormal commune. All right, let's do this off mic. Let's take this off mic.

Okay, sorry. So what is going on here what is going on here kit believe it or not this is not a unique case all over greece archaeologists and historians have discovered graves where the inhabitants were pinned to the earth with rocks chains nails whatever these ancient civilizations could do to stop that body from rising again. In Lesbos, 1850, a body was discovered in a gravesite that had been speared to the ground with eight inch nails. Woo. That's a lot. And we're not even talking like by the coattails, through the face, in the hands. These motherfuckers are getting crucified to mother nature you know there is something i think if you were dead and you did turn into a zombie or vampire

sure i think there is something a little flattering about going to that much effort to keep them down like i think it really speaks to how much drive and how strong they think you are like i think if i personally died i think my loved ones would honest to god just throw in a fucking ipad in there and be like he's so fucking lazy literally put it put netflix in there and he ain't leaving he's gonna stay there yeah it doesn't matter if he becomes a zombie a fucking a roo-ga-roo as long as he's got emily and pyro season two he's good just chuck in a ps5 and like a bag of Doritos. He ain't getting up for at least 100 years.

Put a lifetime supply of Pringles. His little fat ass will be able to get out of there. It's just you in your coffin, full zombie transformation, like eating chili heat wave Doritos, watching Stranger Things season 11. Doritos watching Stranger Things season 11. Just the theme tune to Breaking Bad coming on every 35 minutes. Why are you a Furby? We love Breaking Bad.

Later, archaeologists found another instance of this. It was a body anchored by the neck, pelvis, and feet. And that was after they'd clubbed his head in. Not the pelvis! What pelvis? What do they think he was going to be getting up to in the afterlife? This guy's hips do not

lie. He is going to be trying to bang everything in sight. we can't have him shagging angels in heaven we need to pin him down do not let him up there all i'm saying is things are pretty bad and this isn't a one-off instance two dismembered bodies were found in attica in greece one body was a woman who'd been cut in half, and then the door to her grave had been sealed shut from the outside with huge rocks wedged up against the entrance. Wow. This really is astonishing. So what was this ancient civilization so scared of? Why did dead bodies need to be pinned down? Well, kid, it's because of a creature that existed many years ago, one that tormented the ancient Greek civilizations, known as the Vrykolakas.

The Vrykolawa? The Vrykolakas. Okay. To find out more about this cryptid, we have to dive back in time to its origin. I thought we were already back in time. We're going back in time. How much further back are we were already back in time. We're going back in time. How much further back are we going? Have you seen Back to the Future Part 3?

We were already back in the future, and now we're going to cowboy times. Okay. The ancient Greeks wholeheartedly believed that the dead could roam the earth. And not only could corpses physically rise from their graves, but their spirits could be invoked by mediums to come out at night and f*** around

with those who were still living. Wow. These walking undead were known as vrykolakas, which in English pretty much does translate to vampire. Okay. Even though what we're talking about today is very different. Yeah, they're not sucking blood necessarily. They're not sucking blood. They do rise from the grave, but they don't have the fangs, not the capes. They don't turn into bats. This is a very different version. They ain't sucking blood, but

they might be. Okay. Well, maybe the dude who had to have his pelvis nailed to the earth, but not the others. While they do share a lot of similarities, the Vrykornokas are very different. These creatures have flushed, dark complexions, swollen and bloated bodies. Whoa. They've been described as having a quote-unquote evil smell. I'm sure they do. And they have fresh blood oozing from the mouth, nose, eyes and or ears.

You know what? I'm here for this. i'm here for this i'm here for this because me too twilight has set unrealistic body standards for the undead yeah how pissed would you be if you went through life and all and all the bullshit and the pressure of the media puts on you to look good and then you die and at least you think that at least i get to get away from having to look like a f***ing 10 my whole life i can just be an uggo in the dead realm right and then robert pattinson comes in skin sparkling abs taut waist snatched uh perfect teeth when i'm over there looking like a bricola guy fat bludgy bloated i've been eating pringated i've been eating pringles for 500 years yeah twilight was a dangerous franchise because what it did was convince a generation of teenage girls that

turning into a vampire was a cool hot sexy thing to do right imagine how many people turned and it was like all right cool so what do i do now do i go to like a high school in washington and like just bang a bunch of high schoolers or something and it's like, all right, cool. So what do I do now? Do I go to like a high school in Washington and like just bang a bunch of high schoolers or something? And it's like, no, you need to drink human blood. You need to drink human blood. Probably the next hour you're going to die. It's like, all right, well, I guess I'll just go outside and find a kid. I wouldn't.

Stay light, son of a bitch. I wouldn't. You'll burst into flames. It'll feel like the jet and this blasting heat of hell is igniting every fraction of skin in your body why am i here why am i here you're telling me i can't bang you tell me i can't go outside you're like can i at least turn into a bat you can i wouldn't because it hurts like hell. Have you ever thought about what it would feel like for a human body to become a bat?

It feels like getting squeezed by an industrial crusher. You lose all sense of yourself when you turn into a bat. All you want to do is eat f***ing flies. You know how uncomfortable it is to sleep in a bed that's slightly too small? All right, imagine getting squished onto the size of a grape. That's what becoming a bat is yeah so all these people turn into vampires uh thinking it was gonna be a fun sexy time and what they what they ended up with could have been something similar to a vrykolikas a bloated bleeding undead evil smelling-smelling monster. Jesus. Unlike vampires, they are actually more cannibalistic, and instead of sucking blood, will kill humans to eat their livers.

Their livers? Yeah, specifically. They really like livers. Good Lord. Well, I'll tell you what. At least they kill you, because there's some animals out there that won't wait for that. They'll just start eating.

Right. Well, maybe these guys will. I don't know too much about the process but the scariest part about these motherfuckers is that to become a vrykolikas you don't have to be bitten or catch a disease in fact in the time of ancient greece there were so many different ways that you could become one. That includes if an animal or an insect jumps or flies over a corpse before burial. What? That's all it takes? You're a monster. No way.

If a human reaches over a corpse before burial, you're a monster. Whoa. If you eat the meat of a sheep that had been wounded by a wolf? Uh-oh! You're a monster. Well, I would agree with that. If you're a shitty person while you were alive, better pin down that pelvis, buddy, because you're a monster now. There's so many

different things it could be. If you have red hair. No way. If you have red hair. Like my daughter? Like my daughter? Like your sister? They're monsters. Oh, no! I didn't want to tell you that, but they are monsters.

Oh, God. I'm not saying that they're specifically of Recolacast, but I'll just say when it comes time for the burial, you're going a little deeper than six feet. Other prime candidates were murder victims, mothers who died in childbirth, people who died from drowning strokes plague or a curse okay add to that people who died too young people who died too old

what does too old mean what does dying too old really mean you live too good of a life you yeah it's kind of like i guess um i guess dav's going to be checking out soon because he just hit, I don't know, this was ancient Greece. He just hit 14. And once David hits his 16th birthday, huh, you're looking a little too good for your age, David. Could it be that you have been sustaining yourself on the blood of other humans? Okay, so it's a little suspicious, maybe. You're getting buried. So it really feels like anything remotely bad or weird, you're a monster.

Or you were at least susceptible to becoming one. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to have to crunch the numbers here, but just in terms of sheer evidence, the fact that they were so worried about these things and they thought that so many people could turn into one of these monsters, that kind of suggests this might have been a really big problem. Oh my God, you have no idea how big of a problem this was. And that's what we're going to get on to next, because, you know, now that we've covered kind of

what these creatures are and how they work, it's really interesting to talk about how much surprising evidence there is to maybe back up the claims that this was a real epidemic, a real problem that these people had to deal with. But before we dive into these historical texts and ancient classified documents, how about a quick word from today's sponsors? All right, Kit, as we said, it is time to dive back, back once more into the history of ancient Greece. Because as I said, it may surprise you to know that there is evidence out there, and it's buried in ancient texts and historical records. While legends of the Vrykolikas can be found all over ancient Greece, no place has more

stories than the Greek island of Santorini, which at one point had the reputation of being the most vampire-infested place in the world. Imagine being the island that's famous for how many vampires are trapped there. Not a good look. This is so f***ed up because have you seen what Santorini looks like? It's gorgeous, right? It's famously one of the most romantic, beautiful locations on planet Earth. It's absolutely stunning.

A lot of vampires too, apparently. But hey, vampires like nice places too. No one said they didn't. You're like, the people there look like they haven't aged a day. It's incredible. There's a dude there called Giovanni who wears a lot of vintage clothing.

It's pretty tattered. Looks like it's kind of from 800 BC. An island famous for its sunsets, which does pose a problem to the vampire population. This place was apparently so infested by vampires that allegedly if someone thought that their deceased family member could come back as a vrykolikas,

they would ship the body to the island so the locals could kill it kill it again i like this little cottage industry they got going they're like the pest control of the paranormal world yeah if they're like hey we have a real bad vampire problem which kind of means we know how to deal with this shit so uh, yeah. Way back in 1642, a French Catholic priest named Francois Richard was working basically as a missionary. And the location that he was based?

Santorini. While on the island, he wrote an extensive journal about his time there. And if you read it, you'd probably expect stories about the church, the locals,

and his journey. Maybe some of the beautiful Greek food that it's just famous for. Yeah, the rewarding challenge of converting the locals to the way of the Lord. It was actually pretty heavy on the vampires. It's Twilight 1. It's the first book. New Moon or whatever the f*** it's called. There's a French Catholicolic priest named stephanie meyer he actually she actually wrote a collection of pretty interesting pretty horny vampire books yeah he ended up spending a lot of time at the local high school

this is a man of the church this is the mother who's supposed to be converting people to his religion. And he shows up and immediately is introduced to vampires, something that he's never seen before. Could you imagine him coming to the island with like, you know, the robes and the Bible and the cross and, uh, the locals kind of run up to meet him at the dock and they're like,

Oh, thank God. Are you here to help with the vampires? He's like, the what? I'm here to tell you all about Jesus. What are you doing over here? They're like, oh, that's cool. Is he going to help?

Because we need help. Where's Jesus? Is he coming next? Is that the next boat? Because we need a miracle, brother. We need one fast. He never even heard of him. Who's Jesus? Does he have a gun? In his writing, he describes the dead coming back to life at night to exterminate the islanders.

What the f***? Isn't this crazy? He talks about the locals digging up graves and burning bodies. Exorcism ceremonies by priests already on the island. And other people impaling bodies to the ground before burial. I'm pretty sure it's not even a big island, by the way. No! It's kind of crazy that the one dude who's supposed to, like, not have a horse in this race at all comes to the island, and the only thing he wants to talk about when he gets back is how many vampires there are. Like, I'm pretty sure that maybe there's a creature in the Bible, I guess demons.

Maybe he was kind of seeing him as demons. But he had this otherworldly experience. I mean, it is true in many of our cases on the podcast. It's come up before that religious people will turn up throughout because whilst it's not exactly their jurisdiction it's not not their jurisdiction it's not anybody else's and so they kind of weirdly do think about some of these things more than uh doctors lawyers or dentists yeah and you know these are people who if they're seeing something paranormal as we've said before they're trying to view it and explain it within their belief system so if they see a cryptid, they'll be like, that is

a demon that is talked about in the Bible that I believe in, that I know about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. One really cool quote from the book was, quote, I want some of our atheists in France to come here, not to hear, but to see with their own eyes in the light of day and to see how unjust they are to believe that when a man dies everything dies with him wow pretty cool he's kind of twisting that into being like you know he's he sees a vampire walking on the street and he's like my god the bible was right you know he's like there is something after death There is a mystical kind of force in the world that is unexplained. That atheists think when you die, you die. And he's like, I just saw a guy burst out of the ground.

Now, I will say I did cherry pick some of the cooler quotes. Because also in the book, he said that vampires have become so unrestrained that they not only run here and there at night, but also they show up at noon and go into the fields to collect beans. Okay, okay. That changes quite a lot. That does change quite a lot. What?

They pick beans. Can a vampire harvest a couple beans during the day? What? So they have jobs. They don't have jobs. The vampires have jobs, to be clear. Vampires gotta eat. Vampires gotta eat, and if there's a couple beans during the day? What? So they have jobs. They don't have jobs. The vampires have jobs, to be clear. Vampires got to eat. If there's a couple beans in the field, there's a couple beans up for grabs.

I ain't going to say no. Look, what do you have on the plate with your sausages? Beans, motherfucker. You eat it with your meat. So you're saying this was an accoutrement to their flesh meal. They kind of had a charcuterie board of, you know, delicious little snacks. Some beans. They're Greek.

So fresh. Didn't we say they were Greek? They eat feta cheese too. Yeah. And a bit of liver and maybe some human flesh, you know, mixed up in there. Strangely, I think we did talk about this on a very early episode of This Paranormal Life, that I think it was the Greeks that were quite funny about beans. Do you remember that?

No, I don't remember that at all. That it's like, I don't f***ing remember, man, but it's like something like the Greek word for bean is like literally death. Oh. They like, there was like some, oh yeah, it's coming back to me. It's coming back to me. There was like, whether it was a lima bean or whatever, there was some type of bean that certain people had

allergic reactions to and so so many people died from eating these that they they were like man these things are f***ed up they're demonic right even though it was just people having yeah allergic reactions i can get that but if uh it was just a jelly bean they've never seen a jelly bean before they're like this is a this is so f***ing crazy it's just a jelly bean. They've never seen a jelly bean before. They're like, this is so f***ing crazy. It tastes like strawberries, but it's a bean. I'm gonna google death bean and see

what that means. Great band name. I think they're on tour in Poland at the moment. Ah, fava beans, that was it. They were called the death bean? Greek mathematician Pythagoras believed that fava beans contained the souls of the dead. Whoa! So, I don't know, I'm just saying.

These vampires are harvesting beans? That's kind of interesting. That checks out. You know, if they're undead, harvesting bean souls, death beans, during the day, eating flesh at night, it does kind of check out. There's something so funny though about the priest being like i don't know what to tell you they're up at noon now they started waking up early we cannot get away from these the way the way he words it it's just like it's so commonplace now they're like you some of them ride the bus. They're everywhere. We're kind of living hand in hand now.

Another book on Santorini published in 1699 said, Something inconceivable is happening on that island. Some of the dead return to their homes a few days after their burial, and no one knows what revives them. The people of Santorini call them vrikolakas. All right, you need to stop explaining what... You need to stop telling me what's happening, and you need to start explaining, and fast,

because we're hearing a lot about the what, and I need to know why. You're telling us insane shit here. You're telling us that en masse, only a few hundred years ago, people were very regularly dying, being buried, and then just their husband or wife a few hundred years ago, people were very regularly dying, being buried. And then just their husband or wife a few days later just comes downstairs and they're eating a bowl of Cheerios, watching TV. And they're like, oh, hey, what's up? Yeah.

I mean, don't expect any kind of explanation in the purpose of this thing. Look, all I'm going to say is, OK, here's here's one explanation. All right. Look, all I'm going to say is, okay, here's one explanation, all right? You know, Kit, it seems like, you know, based off these records, we are talking about something that was a big deal in these ancient civilizations. Could we, Kit, be looking at a cryptid that once haunted these civilizations, but through their retaliation no longer exists to haunt us? I mean, that's what we're beating around the bush of right now,

is it sounds like whether you think this is paranormal or scientific it sounds like something's going on right that isn't happening today it's kind of like when you uh when you hear about people looking for bigfoot to this day in the woods with trail cams uh night vision goggles looking for bigfoot because we heard stories from 100 years ago or saw the patterson footage whenever that was shot and now we're still looking for him he probably died he's probably dead if he is a real creature one that was in the footage he died a long time ago um and maybe this is a more dramatic version of that instance which is basically we had a monster that

existed in the past but because these people were pinning the suspects to their graves, dealing with it, burning the bodies, maybe it died out. Maybe we don't have to deal with it anymore. I have watched enough Resident Evil movies, enough terrible Resident Evil movies to know how this goes. Let me tell you about another little monster that has come out of nowhere and will hopefully be gone soon coronavirus h1n1 swine flu bird flu yeah i don't want to get too controversial on the podcast so let's just keep it no you're telling me there was an ancient pandemic uh what i'm saying is back in the day it's always a really funny bit where it's like the person you've rallied the other person up

and then they take it in a direction that you don't want it to be bit where it's like the person, you've rallied the other person up. And then they take it in a direction that you don't want it to be taken in. It's like, oh, you don't have to tell me about ancient monsters. We're on the same page here. Yeah, I've heard a little ancient monster before. Godzilla. It's like, no, no, that's not quite what I was getting at. The lizard walks among us to this day.

Back in the day, if some sort of novel f***ed up Ebola virus came along. Right. That made you bleed from the eye sockets people would think that was pretty paranormal yeah but we've got an explanation for that today maybe something else was going on there granted a lot more dramatic than coronavirus causing you to literally rise from the dead rise from the dead but this is the premise of you know i am legend any remotely zombie themed movie yeah i mean we will go on to talk about this a little bit but there's even room to believe that maybe not the creatures but the culture of the vrykola kas still exists to this day uh there's a lot of people in these smaller places in greece that still i guess it's probably become folklore at this point but kind

of loosely believe that it either can happen or did happen in the past. Got you. Banshee vibes. Now, these creatures are mentioned a lot from ancient Greece to the Ottoman Empire to the Byzantine Empire. I wanted to see if the church mentioned them specifically, but believe it or not, there is not a comprehensive history of the Byzantine church for the general reader. Believe it or not, there is not a comprehensive history of the Byzantine church for the general reader.

Sure, sure, sure. Not just a digestible vice article on that one. Unless you consider John Julius Norwich's so-called history of Byzantium, which I don't, of course. What a f***ing clown. But even beyond Greece, there are more examples of this than you realize. And from almost every corner of the earth. The earliest recorded finds are from Cyprus and date back to the Neolithic period, which began 7,500 years ago. Yeah, okay, that is winding the clock back quite a bit. Bodies buried in pit graves were pinned by millstones that were placed either on their heads or chests. A similar burial was found almost 4,000 years ago,

where the body was flexed, placed in a stone-built cistum, and restrained with a large rock. This is crazy. This concept of the dead coming back to life, it seems like, in a way, it's one of mankind's oldest and most consistent paranormal beliefs which is pretty cool people just think it started with vampires started with dracula and these works of fiction these cave men were scared that their husbands and wives were going to be coming back from the dead i mean it kind of makes sense doesn't it that you know even though granted i understand these early humans were literally as smart as we are now.

They just didn't have as much access to information. I'm not saying they were stupid, but this is so fundamental. It's like the most fundamental human belief. It's like all we know as humans is when we're baby, we wake up, then we collect berries until we go bye-bye maybe beans then when we go bye-bye we stay bye-bye yeah unless the bad thing happens and then we no go bye-bye no more yeah it was the earliest version it was the earliest shamalan twist twist. It's like, but what if? Come back from bye-bye. Everyone goes, we better make sure people go bye-bye. We're going to make sure.

Right, with a big rock. Yeah, which was their gun, I guess, at the time. That was kind of their form of protection. Hey, I'm not going to insult the intelligence of the early cavemen. They invented the wheel. And the only thing I invented was my own cereal that one time, which we discussed was just me cutting up a neutral grain bar and putting it in a bowl with milk.

Just as a brief tangent, I was actually reading recently about Neolithic and that kind of era Ireland. You'll know from growing up where we did in Northern Ireland that we've got the Mount Sandal area is quite near us. Yeah, yeah. But you'll remember we did in northern ireland that we've got um the mount sandal area is quite near us yeah yeah but you'll remember we did like school trips as kids where they showed us like the forest and they were like yeah there was actually a really early human settlement here yeah people arrived in ireland and lived in these forests collected berries hunted for salmon i do

remember that stuff like that what i didn't realise as a kid, because I wasn't listening obviously, was that that's actually where we're from is the oldest evidence of humans anywhere in Ireland. So it's about 9,000 years old. Wow. But that was literally, the first ones arrived right where we're from and then they kind of filtered out and went other places.

That's crazy. I wonder if there's some burials and graves that you can go visit kind of around that area. I do know that there was one site that they actually found not that long ago, maybe like 20 years ago or something. And they built a giant holiday home estate on top of it. It was a big scandal, actually. A lot of people got rich and a lot of stuff got destroyed. That's capitalism's version of a big stone slab who build apartments

yeah we built a holiday inn on your grave so your ass stays down that's crazy yeah i wonder if in 10 000 years the aliens will be like man these humans believe such interesting things they put a hotel on top of this ancient burial ground man they must have been trying to keep those bodies in the ground it's like no they just didn't care about people or things just disrespected ancient civilizations uh well look kid we know what these creatures are now we've heard stories about the genuine historical records that talk about them but how can we protect ourselves from these creatures if, hypothetically, they were still in existence?

Don't say hypothetically. You said people still believe this shit to this day. Oh, they do. And as I said, a lot of this shit went down on tiny Greek islands. Who's to say there isn't a tiny Greek island out there that's been scribbled off the maps by the MIBs and the f***ing men at the top so that

people don't know there's a vampire island and at any point when when people need to cause a little chaos oh turns out a vampire got away on that boat oh that's just a real shame isn't it uh first off we keep saying vampire they are not vampires right recall like us we have to make that completely clear because they are very different than vampires. I mean, one big difference is they are actually believed to knock on the doors of houses and call out the name of the people inside. If nobody answers, they will simply move on.

But anybody that opens that door to one of these vampire zombies, they will die within three days. Jesus. This is exactly why I don't answer calls from unknown numbers, in case it's a free Colacast. Yeah, you've got to be careful, even in the digital world. Then, of course, after three days, you will rise again.

You die temporarily, rise again. You've become a free Colacas, and the curse spreads. But as I said, to this day, there are regions of Greece where nobody answers the door on the first knock, which is quite cool. That's insane. Wow. If you're going to go after a corpse that's already become a vrykolakas, you have to attack it on a Saturday, as that is the only day that they actually rest in their graves. Everybody needs a day off. And you can pick from a variety of different methods. Exercising, impaling, beheading, clubbing, setting fire to the suspect.

They're all pretty effective. You can, of course, just weigh the son of a bitch down so it can't move. Other techniques include severing the tendons or the knees. Tie their shoelaces together yeah really the strangest one of all is you can place poppy seeds or sand on the ground at the grave site of a presumed vampire and if indeed the person does come back to life they'll be so preoccupied trying to count the grains on the ground to do any killing i i love that that's cool i mean this is that's the ancient version of our netflix and pringles theory yeah it's like you know that first night the vr cola cast comes up it's like all right saturday's over sunday

i'm gonna eat some livers i'm gonna pick some big night it's a big night i'm gonna pick sunday's a new saturday i'm gonna yeah go on a rampage. Oh, shit. Why is there sand in my... Why is there sand by my grave? That's nuts. How much is there? I wonder. One grain, two grain, three grain. Oh, shit.

There's tons. I'm going to sit down for a second. It's going to take a while. I'm going to be like... I'm hungry, though, so I'm going to head on like 15, but I just quickly... Yeah, just count the grain. I lost count. Fuck.

All right. It's one grain, two grain, three grain. Hey, Greg, you coming? Yeah, you guys going without me? I just got this sand everywhere. Bro, you know what happens when you start counting sand? You find it real hard to still count sand. No, dude, honestly.

We're going to see you at the party? Yeah, bring some beans back, though, just in case. Because there's a lot of sand here. No, you're doing that thing again. All right, fine, I won't count the sand. I'm just going to grab... Oh, there's poppy seeds as well. All right, we're going without you. well apparently it works i like it as well it's kind of uh hey maybe if your loved one passes on becomes a ricola cast it's like every zombie movie ever where uh the person is like sure i can't kill

them it's my susan oh and of course susan is like it ain ain't Susan anymore and it's like reminds me of my beautiful wife it's hard so this is just a nice little work around just make them count seeds and shit and that pretty much brings us to the end of our case and the end of the history and the legends

around the Greek vampire known as the Vrykolakas wow hey a rip stopping a rip roaring tour de force tour through ancient greece um i feel disturbed though because it felt like we uncovered a lot and now it's just an open-ended kind of f***ed up is it gonna be there when i go back to my my room right yeah um we kind of introduce you to a creature that for all intents and purposes is gone has been gone for many many years but also unless unless there's a tiny greek island out there like santorini probably not santorini maybe a smaller one off the map off the grid

that still may contain one or two of these creatures that we thought was lost to time itself right somewhere in greece right now there's a lot of, like, hipster vrykolikas wearing vintage clothes, drinking tins of Red Stripes, sitting around going like, bro, they gentrified Centerville so bad, bro. It's like, oh, it's just like, you can't even, like, just be a vrykolikas there anymore, you know what I mean?

Yeah, I tried to, like, pick some beans there the other day, and the locals were like, get out of here, get out of here. I've been picking beans here for literally 3,000 and you're gonna tell me i can't pick beans here anymore i mean hey is it so unrealistic to think that these creatures could exist even in london i mean i'm not saying that i'm a vrykulikas but hey some of this description in here tired bloating pale complexion. You know, these are ticking a lot of boxes here. Dude, I just got off a flight to Stansted Airport on EasyJet.

There was a couple undead freaks on that plane. I'm certain of it. Something is not right. And I mean, I think they must have bit you or something, bro, because a lot of these descriptions are lining up with you perfectly. Okay, that's... Tired eyes. Yeah, that's because I'm a parent.

Withered body. Well, yeah. No friends. I can't eat on account of the visalign. Erectile dysfunction. Oh, you've gone far enough. You have gone far enough. A lot of these are...

Sorry, sorry. I have to remember, you know, that was a joke. It was a bit I was doing, yeah. Yeah, right. I was trying to do a bit. Can we cut it, though? Because I did... I got pretty amped up. Which is weird, because obviously it's not a problem that you have so why would you be offended i think it yeah i think just the it's the the the visalign it hurts and i just

like so i just kind of control my emotions uh okay let's just just move on okay to the other descriptions of the creatures um insecure they say a lot of the Verona Holocaust are insecure. Don't care about that. Invisalign. There's no way. There's no way. I don't have Invisalign. I have Visalign.

Alfred. Alfred got me Invisalign. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, hypothetically, these creatures could walk among us you know when you get home from school when you get home from work take a little look at the ones nearest and dearest to you see if they match any of the descriptions that we've talked about on the podcast have they recently or ever taken a trip to greece or santorini how often do they eat beans? What kind of beans? Yeah. Jelly or death? We should know. That's important. As I said, that's kind of all the information that we have on the Vricola cast.

And at the end of the day, we have to come down on a conclusion like we do with any case. So I'm going to throw it to you, Kit. I feel like I've been talking a lot this episode. So let me know where your head's at. What do you think about these ancient cryptids? Well, you know, I love to go back into ancient times. I think it's really fun to wind back the clock a really long way, not just like the 70s or the 80s or all the places we end up all the time here on TPL, but to look at how people who,

even though they lived completely different lives in a completely different world to us today, they still had these same myths beliefs and also fears about many of the same things you know that are in our culture and media today and undoubtedly i'm shocked by what i've heard uh just how widespread this was and just how long a period this was over of course our big problem is at the end of tpl episodes we have to decide whether something is paranormal or not yeah we need evidence to decide that not always and not always sometimes we just kind of not often not often maybe in maybe in exceptional circumstances

where it's just so overwhelming but like normally we need something whereas as wild as this is that so people were so into this a long time ago maybe the evidence has died with the bricolacast themselves yeah um that may be what we're looking at now it's it's going to be hard to say uh because when you're talking about a creature that that's this old and this ancient uh if the whole point of it is that it doesn't exist anymore guess what else doesn't exist anymore the evidence yeah i recently played a really cool video game actually called a house of ashes and the idea behind it is that it's like set during the iraq war and during the conflict a bunch of soldiers fall into the earth and discover

kind of an ancient temple that was buried for thousands of years sounding like an episode of this podcast it kind of sounds like this um and inside the the temple they didn't realize it had been built to keep captive these ancient kind of vampiric creatures that had existed for thousands and thousands of years it's a really cool idea you know when we talk about cryptids we are usually talking about creatures that are at least existed in the last few hundred years it's crazy to think that you can go back to the beginning of of man's adventure on this planet there were probably some monsters kicking about back then too but as we said it becomes very

difficult to concretely decide whether or not this is just legends and myths passed down from generation to generation or a real creature. And because of that, I think today, even though I love the story, I love the history around it, I think it's fascinating. It is going to be a no for me this week. That's it. The million dollar question is, did people go bye-bye and then no go bye-bye or did they stay bye-bye? Right. You think they stayed bye-bye? I think today we're saying it's a double bye-bye. They stayed bye-bye? Or did they stay bye-bye? Right. You think they stayed bye-bye? I think today we're saying it's a double bye-bye. They stayed bye-bye. It's a double no.

It's a double bye-bye on today's case. But damn, hey, that was a fun one. Thank you to Amy Grisdale for researching this week's episode and Philip Shacklady for editing. F***ing hell, Rory. I'm kind of glad you got around to this case in the end because... Oh, sorry. Yeah, let me credit the person.

This was a submission that we got on our email. Nope, no time. Sorry, bitch. It was a really good suggestion, though. Yeah, I'm glad you've got around to this because... Yeah, just give me a second because it was really sweet. It was like, I'm a huge fan of the show. It would mean the world to me.

My Greek heritage if you would investigate this. Loser. It would just be world to me. Don't care. My Greek heritage, if you would investigate this. Loser. It would just be nice to give him that. You missed it. You missed it. Zach McCrell. Delete that. Zach McCrell.

Delete that. He said he just watched the 1945 film Isle of the Dead last night, which involves a Greek paranormal creature called the Vrykolikas. I hadn't heard of this movie or the creature, so it was great to investigate it. So thank you, Zach, for recommending this.

And if you want to recommend the case, please do send us an email to thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com and we will look into it. Okay, now that I gave him the shout out, are you fine? Because you seem like you're kind of bitter that I interrupted you and gave him some attention. I just had like a big anecdote is all.

Okay. You can still do the anecdote. It's not. I'm going to save it. Save it for when? How is it going to? The next episode. My episode.

And it's going to make sense? Absolutely. All right. Fine. I guess we'll. Because maybe on my episode, I won't interrupt myself. Actually, that does happen quite a lot. Yeah.

You do it. You do it more than I think I interrupt you. But the point remains. The point remains. Yeah. Okay. So. How do you do it more than I think I interrupt you. But the point remains. The point remains. Yeah. Okay, so. So how do you like it? Do you want to tell the anecdote or do you not want to tell the anecdote?

I don't because I've missed the opportunity. Okay, well then thank you, Zach, then for recommending that case. Shut up, you. Thanks, Zach. Sorry, I'm just going to interrupt Rory any time I get. So thanks. You don't know how to end the episode, so it's going to be a weird thing. Thanks, Jack, for sending that in.

Wasn't his name. Cheers, everyone. Nice one. You're clearly so thrown. Nice one, basically. Your gums are bleeding. Your gums are bleeding. I have to call Alfred.

I have to call him because this isn't right. And I understand that they do things differently in Uzbekistan, but this still can't be legal because it's like, this is so sore. This is so bad. It's so bad. You said it wouldn't bleed, Alfred! You lied! You're a criminal! Oh, hey, you know what? We should

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They're a full-blown zombie at this point. But I'm glad to hear that they're still enjoying the podcast and getting some representation. Thank you also to Chris Hales. Chris Hales from Santorini. They were born on the island and lasted about one week before that little newborn was turned into a little newborn they weren't born on the island died on the island then born again on the island it turned out

wow didn't realize we had such a big fan base in Santorini it is improbable it is improbable but they heard a little preview of this episode and they couldn't wait to hear us talk about the island so thanks Chris thank you also to Daniela Little. Daniela you're gonna do just great in the but they heard a little preview of this episode and they couldn't wait to hear us talk about the island. So thanks, Chris. Thank you also to Daniela Little. Daniela, you're going to do just great in the commune because we got everything that you're used to. A little bit of water, a little bit of food, a little bit of shelter, you know, and you seem like the kind of person that's okay with that,

if that's your lifestyle. We have a lot of bit of famine. Okay, all right, all right, all right. We have a lot of bit of famine. Okay. We have a lot of bit of pestilence. We've said enough. We've said enough. Okay. But we also have, you know, we have a little bit of fun too.

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