This Paranormal Life - #318 The Mysterious Bleeding House of Atlanta
Episode Date: June 6, 2023We've all had problems with our houses before - creaky floorboards, leaky rooftops... but what what do you do when your house starts BLEEDING? Well, in Atlanta Georgia, 1987, an elderly couple had to ...face this very REAL paranormal phenomenon.Go to drinkAG1.com/PARANORMAL to get 5 free travel packs and a year's supply of vitamin DFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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When you dye your hair, does part of you die?
If I'm buried at sea, does my ghost become a merman?
All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life!
Hello everyone and welcome to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every
week we investigate a brand new paranormal tale, case, claim, or beast and come to a conclusion at
the end of the show to decide whether or not it truly is paranormal. We have tackled many cases
over the years. I think we've been doing this for, God, I want to say 25, 30 years now, but I can't
because that would be wrong. It's been five. Yeah, I want to say 100. I want to say that I'm the most experienced paranormal investigator
there's ever been.
Yeah.
It's funny how you can use that term in a lot of different ways.
So it's like, oh, Matt, how tall am I?
I want to say 6'3".
That's technically not a lie because I do want to say it.
Right, but it's clearly not what anyone means. Yeah. Does my penis work? I want to say it right but it's clearly not what anyone means yeah does my penis
work i want to say yes that one didn't come out right no no let's unpack that let's let's get
into this i've ever had some some type of hemorrhoids before i want to say no i want to
say no to that one and yet i'm starting to think that isn't kind of the multi-use phrase I thought it was,
because a lot of these actually don't make sense.
You didn't have to pick such revealing examples.
I didn't reveal anything.
Those were hypothetical hemorrhoids that didn't disclose anything.
Kit, are you ready to dive into a brand new paranormal case today on the podcast?
I am indeed.
We'll quickly just answer one off the top.
When you dye your hair to something, dye with you.
Yes.
I don't know, Rory, if you've ever dyed your hair,
but I did at about 15, 16 years old, and I was never the same.
Oh, emotionally dyed within you,
or physically a part of your body withered?
My pupils went black.
I think the dye ran into my retinas
and I couldn't see.
So it was a pretty literally dark couple of years.
Well, technically all hair is dead, right?
Isn't that it?
Isn't that something?
Your hair is dead.
This is like the time you said
if your brain knew what it was,
it would kill itself.
Your hair, isn't that what hair is?
Dead?
No.
What does that mean?
I'm looking this up.
I'm looking this up.
It's definitely dead.
It's not.
It definitely,
there is,
I'm not wording it
in the right way.
It doesn't breathe
or live
or know what it is
so I guess
it's not alive.
All the hairs you see
on your body
have at least one thing
in common.
They're all dead.
This is from
healthline.com
under a microscope each of your individual hairs looks like a thick tube but this is called a
filament or a hair shaft uh hair is not alive do you think what do you think is alive skeletons
the ones that walk i love when we veer 5% off the topic
of today's investigation
and reveal we know nothing
about the real world
and that we need,
this is why it's a scripted podcast.
This is why.
Right, we have to stay
firmly on the tracks.
We're like,
we're like a politician
that has a script
that they need to stick to
because they don't have an answer
to any other question
yeah our managers are just slightly off screen in living in pure fear that we will ever go off
the script and talk about how human hair is actually dead uh but get in contact if you do
know whether it's dead or not um i believe i am right but i'm willing to be corrected because i want to say i'm right well we've got a really exciting podcast to talk about
today kit because one of the most exciting parts is that this week's story takes place in the same
location where i have been for the last week your mother's basement no atl Atlanta, Georgia. Oh. Yeah. This is, uh,
this is where I was born,
over in the States.
So, not only does today's case take place here,
as I said, I've spent the last week
hands-on investigating
some of the most paranormal locations
in Atlanta.
I mean, I was also down in Savannah, Georgia,
which is widely regarded as
the most haunted town in all of the United States.
Something I knew nothing about.
You know, Atlanta, Georgia, the state of Georgia, famous for many things.
Rappers.
Hip-hop.
Yeah.
Free thugger.
But I didn't realize there was such a litany of amazing paranormal history there, too.
Where does that come from?
It's just an old historical town.
I think it's got to be one of the oldest in the US.
And the US doesn't really have a long history.
So anything that was built in the 70s
is borderline a historical building.
Right.
If you're a man or woman over the age of 43,
they just put you in a museum.
Yeah, some dude turns up with a whip and retrieves you to store you away in a museum.
They're like, we're running out of exhibits for the meet.
Do you have an old f***ing driver's license or something?
We need something to show.
It was crazy.
If you go to Savannah now, I was joking with you that it's basically half of the industry is touring these old, beautiful, historical buildings.
The other half is ghost tours.
They're insane.
As soon as basically the sun sets, it turns into the f***ing Halloween town from Nightmare Before Christmas.
There are carriages of people dressed as skeletons riding through the streets.
before Christmas. There are carriages of people dressed as skeletons riding through the streets.
All of the t-shirts and merchandise you can buy is either a peach and a sunset or a skeleton man holding an iced tea. It's a really weird place to mix these two worlds together,
but it's so paranormal. It's crazy. Well, hell, I'm just showing my ignorance. I mean,
I'm sure there's lots of places around America that are like this.
I know in New Orleans, it's another one where whenever I went,
I didn't even know about the whole voodoo angle.
Yeah.
So I can't wait to hear what Georgia has to offer.
It's got a lot.
I mean, if you want to hear a huge deep dive into the haunted history of Savannah, Georgia,
we actually did an entire episode on it, a bonus
episode over on patreon.com, and that one had a pretty cool guest on the show as well. So definitely
go check it out if you're interested in hearing more. But today, our episode does not actually
take place in Savannah, it takes place in Atlanta. But before we dive into today's episode, how about a quick word from today's
sponsors? Alright Kit, on this week's episode, we're heading back to September 8th, 1987,
to the Atlanta home of Minnie and William Winston. Now Minnie and William were an elderly couple
who'd been living peacefully at their home. One, one, one 1114. Sorry, I feel like I delivered that in a
weird way. 1114. This is a British person having never seen. It's like, this must be incorrect.
A street has never gone up to this number before. 1111. Yeah. They lived at their home,
111?
Yeah.
They lived at their home, 1114 Fountain Drive, for years.
Now, Minnie was 77 and William was 79.
So while they waited for the sweet release of death,
they enjoyed the sweet release of retirement.
Their children had all grown up and moved away,
so days were filled with morning walks, early nights, and presumably very easy-to-chew dinners.
However, the night of
September 8th, 1987 was about to change their lives forever. Minnie was going about her nightly
routine and just finishing up in the shower. When she was finished, she stepped out, taking great
care not to fall because, as we know, she's 77 years old, basically made out of glass.
So she carefully stepped out of the bath, but when her feet touched the ground,
she almost slipped onto the hard-tiled floor. There was something slimy on the bathroom tiles.
When she looked down at her feet, she screamed at the top of her lungs.
William heard the terrified shriek and hurried to the bathroom to help his wife.
When the door swung open, he was met with a horrible sight.
Minnie was standing in a pool of blood.
Whoa!
Crazy start to this story so far, huh?
Yeah, turns out that evening, some pretty nuts stuff was actually happening.
Split second reaction, pool of blood in your bathroom.
What are you thinking?
I don't know.
Maybe it's 77.
This type of shit happens all the time.
You just bleed.
You're just hurt sometimes.
I don't know.
I feel like you might notice.
You might be in pain.
I don't know.
If you're bleeding a pool of blood like John f***ing McCain.
Yeah, a pool of blood, that's definitely problematic.
I was going to say maybe a wild goose flew through your bathroom window or something.
But you're saying just mystery blood?
Mystery blood.
Yeah, you never had a bit of mystery blood, brother?
I actually have, yeah.
I'm very infamously bad at going to the doctors whenever there's anything wrong with my body.
I think it must have been a couple of years ago
for probably about a week or two.
Every morning when I woke up,
there was just blood in my mouth
and I just kind of lived with that
and then it went away.
Jesus, man.
And it was just fine after that.
So I never really found out what that was about.
Yeah, that's the American in Rory.
That's a bit of his American psyche, which has never quite left.
It's like his leg gets blown off by a passing taxi.
And he's like, well, now I wouldn't want to bother the ambulance service
because, well, that would be a pretty hefty bill.
So I'll just put a bandage on it.
I'll take care of things myself.
Until that Patreon money gets a little jump.
Old Rory's staying
far away from the hospitals.
Right.
But I've never
oozed this much blood before.
I mean,
if there's a liter
on the floor,
you're not long
for this world,
I assume.
No,
we only have
a couple of liters.
Is that true?
I want to say five.
I'm not a serial killer,
but we have
exactly five liters of blood that's how much
i got out of them i want to say i'm not a serial killer and that's what i did say on trial i'm not
a serial killer but 4.5 liters if you don't warm up the body beforehand hey siri how much blood in a human body?
And you're on a list.
Yeah, it just Google mapped me to the nearest prison cell.
I think this is kind of a loophole where I have to arrest myself.
Apparently it's between 4.7 and 5.7 liters of blood.
Your boy was worryingly on the mark, right? That was really close.
Side note, do you think you could ever drink enough liquid to match the amount of blood?
I thought you were going to say blood, okay.
No!
Like, do you think you could drink like three, four liters of milk?
So you would technically at that point be half milk, half blood?
You'd be some sort of cow man.
I am become cow man.
But wait, humans are 60% water 60 water right your mind is getting blown
where's the solid where's the solids all i am is just 99 milk milk water and blood in a apparently
in a balloon shaped like a man i'm trying to think what is the most liquid I've ever drunk in one go.
I mean, you've probably throughout your troubled, troubled youth played the game Edward Cider Hands, where you sellotape two liter cider bottles.
Yeah.
And I mean, back in those days, it was nothing for a 16 year old to tank two liters of Tesco dry cider.
So that's probably the most liquid i've drunk in
like a short space of time because if you do two that would be four four liters almost the same
amount of blood now you would you'd have to that would explain why i blacked out
the fact that the police normally measure your blood alcohol level It's pretty bad if you have as much cider in your body as you have
blood. That can't be good. Anyway, let's get back to our story. William ran upstairs into the
bathroom, saw a huge pool of blood on the floor. He cried out, Minnie, where are you hurt? I'll
call an ambulance. But that was the strangest part. Minnie wasn't hurt.
In fact, she had no idea where all of this blood had come from.
After the pair had calmed down and caught their breath,
they began searching for the source of the blood, and it wasn't hard to find.
Imagine their surprise when they discovered blood seeping through the far bathroom wall.
Minnie pointed in horror while William shuffled
around to try and understand what they were seeing. But there was nothing to understand.
The walls were bleeding. I have no idea what's going on, Minnie. But we have to get out of this
bathroom now or we'll trick the blood all over this house. But it was already too late. They
left the bathroom to see blood oozing out of the hallway's walls.
It was in almost every room of the house at this point.
We are talking elevator doors opening in the shining.
This is impossible.
Nine-foot Hawaiian blood waves ready for the surf.
Minnie was barreled.
She was f***ing pitted, bro.
It was sick
I'm fine
with where this story is going
just know
that with every
line
that you say
about how much blood there is
I'm getting closer and closer
to needing to see a photo
there was a lot
because it was 1987
and they borderline
had digital cameras
yeah this was
barely 30 years ago
40 years ago
so yeah
within our lifetime type shit.
Maybe let me reword some of this then.
So there were specks.
There were specks everywhere.
There were drops kind of coming from the wall.
Really hard to see.
Is it a nine foot Hawaiian wave?
It was kind of more of a dribble.
And when I say like red, it was more rusty.
Oh, okay.
Blue.
It was kind of a watery texture with a hint of...
It was dirty water.
I didn't know when to set that.
I'm just saying, just don't be upset if you don't get any blood samples here on the podcast.
So Minnie and William did what any sensible person would do, and they called the police.
Within minutes, the police were racing down the street alongside an EMT.
And when they arrived, the scene was puzzling to say the least.
The interior of the house looked like somebody had spontaneously combusted.
Blood in almost every room.
And neither of the occupants had a scratch on them.
Yeah, this is one of those times, happens quite a lot in this paranormal life,
where the situation feels illegal, but seemingly no crime has taken place.
Yeah.
If I was that police officer, I would just immediately arrest Minnie and William.
To be safe.
Yeah.
It's like, well, we're going to figure out what this is.
But right now I think one of you is the devil and the other one is his accomplice.
Yeah.
So I'm going to just, I'm just going gonna pistol whip both of you real quick and we're gonna
take you out of this house. The investigating officer, Detective Steve Cartwright, would later
go on to tell Associated Press, quote, I've been on the force for 10 years and I've never seen
anything like this in my life. As the police investigated the house, the mystery became even
stranger. All of the doors to the house, the mystery became even stranger.
All of the doors to the house had been locked, and there was no sign of forced entry.
Also, the house had alarms installed, so if someone had snuck in there, there would have been blaring sirens.
It looked like no one had come in or out of the house that night.
Also, ignoring the issue of who did this,
they still had no idea of how this even happened at all.
Blood pouring through the walls?
That's not something they teach you how to deal with at Police Academy.
I will say, so far, pretty impressed
by how the Atlanta Police Department
have got on in this situation
because they must train the police here in the UK
with how to deal with such a thing
because, in my experience, in this situation situation they would show up and within 15 seconds go
nothing I can do to help you sign here to say that we came and we'll see you later yeah I do
absolutely sweet f**k nothing all right what I'm going to need to see Rory is that we need to see
some progress here we need to see that samples are taken as we say this is quite modern when you see
the samples are taken we've done a DNA test on quite modern. We need to see that samples are taken.
We've done a DNA test on this blood to try and find out what the hell is going on.
I do love the idea of one of these police officers coming back to the station and the other guys are like, did you get a blood sample?
They're like, oh, yeah.
Dumped six liters on the countertop.
Yeah, we got a fucking sample.
Is that enough for you, egghead?
Because I got six more liters in my car.
This is like a forensic investigator's dream.
Usually they're begging for a bit of s***.
They're not.
They're not.
Or some kind of hair, which is dead, by the way.
It's true.
Skin flakes.
They are looking for a tiny fleck or fingerprint or
whatever whereas these motherfuckers basically opened the door and a red wave washed over them
they've got a starbucks trenta sized cup full of blood yeah but as you said there's only one way
to get to the bottom of this and it's finding out what this stuff is. I mean the only real explanation
the police officers could think of is that this isn't blood, it can't be blood. It must have been
some sort of nasty rusty water that had been building up in the old pipes of this house
and finally just burst through the walls. You gotta do like in all the kind of old school
police and army movies and shit where the most experienced person
holsters their gun for a second kneels down on one knee dips two fingers in the blood and tastes it
uh yeah as if they have tasted every type of thing on earth and they're like yep it's definitely
blood yeah you gotta taste it and then say something kind of ominous and ambiguous like they've been here.
Yeah.
It's like doesn't really.
Still fresh.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, these were professional men, so luckily they didn't do that.
But what they did do was they did take a sample back to the lab to examine it to find out whether or not this really was blood.
Because basically none of them believed it was,
but they did Minnie and William the courtesy.
And would you believe it, Kit?
Can you imagine their surprise when the results from the lab came back?
If this isn't blood, I'm going to roundhouse kick you in the head.
Not only was it blood,
but it was human blood.
Okay. To make was human blood. Okay.
To make things even more confusing,
the blood type was O
and both Minnie and William were type A.
So it's blood, human blood,
and human blood that couldn't have come
from Minnie or William.
Yeah, this is disappointing for the police
because they were hoping to just
not have to care about this.
And unfortunately, they do.
Yeah. Best case scenario, it's a f***ing...
It's Gatorade. Yeah, great.
It's red Gatorade. They spilled it down the walls.
They're both senile and they didn't remember that they spilled Gatorade.
And then they're like, OK, what did you get back?
It's like, this is the same blood type of a man who went missing five years ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is the missing evidence
in the Cranmore case.
Yeah.
It's like, ah.
I don't know how to tell you this.
It said it was
Abraham Lincoln's blood.
What that means,
I don't know.
The police had no idea
what to do with this case.
In the end,
they decided the only thing
that they could do
was appeal to the public
to see if anyone else
could explain it.
So on September 10th,
1987, the Atlanta PD held a press conference where they talked to the public about the case.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a very unusual case indeed. We got a house full of blood that doesn't
belong to either of the occupants. If anybody has any information they can pass on to help
our investigation, please contact the public tip line. Thank you. Now, of course, this was a huge
mistake. You can't just say you have a crime scene where someone exploded like a water balloon
and not expect people to want answers. Overnight, the story was picked up by local papers, and in the following days,
even made headlines across America. Kit, I have one of those newspaper articles right here for
you to take a look at. This was just after the story went public. All right, thank God I've got
some physical evidence for our description of what we've heard. It's gone down in Atlanta. In this case, we've got a photo up top
with Minnie and Mickey.
What was his name?
William.
Will.
With the headline,
police have, quote,
never seen anything like human blood splattered home.
Yeah.
I mean, look,
we love telling funny stories on this podcast
and talking about silly paranormal tales.
But anytime you see a newspaper clipping like this, it's just a reminder that this was an event that in some capacity did take place in the real world.
I want to point out that in the first paragraph of the article, it says...
I didn't know you were going to read the whole article.
Red splotches were found on the floors of
walls splotches of their house you said it what a nine foot the the the lift scene from oh maybe a
little for dramatic effect that was kind of being games up a little bit uh but to your credit it does
go on to say that um they were present not only in the bathroom but throughout the kitchen living
room bedroom halls and everywhere.
There you go.
And then near the end, it vindicates your boy Kit, Detective Kit, Detective PD Kit,
who said that it was a wild goose.
They said detectives suspect it could be a wild animal.
Oh, really?
Well, that is maybe, maybe this came out before the police discovered that it was human blood.
Or maybe they publicly never said that it was human blood.
Geese are pretty close to humans.
Really not at all in any way.
They kind of are birds.
They have feathers.
They live in a pond.
They have bills.
I can honk like a goose.
That means we share some DNA.
Trust me, brother.
I got bills.
Why do you think I got a Patreon? Well, things eventually got so bad that there were people
gathered outside the house all day, every day. The phone was ringing off the hook and Minnie was
barely able to sleep. On top of that, William was not a healthy man. He was just months away from turning 80 and needed to be on a dialysis machine.
It took many yelling at the crowds to piss off for the visitors to finally disperse.
With no answers and no more developments in the story, the whole event was slowly forgotten.
We have seen that kind of behavior from the public
in the past.
I can't remember the name right off the top
of my head, but we had a house in the past
where, what the f*** happened? Did Jesus'
face show up in a tile
or a pancake or something?
Yes. Or Mary? Mother Mary's?
Maybe it was Jesus'. And people
went nuts. People went absolutely nuts.
And they started charging into the house. It was a whole thing thing people love this kind of uh paranormal tourism it's a lucrative business
but we will condemn it in this case because um yeah it feels wrong to pay to want to see this
thing just for a fun little afternoon out and then just while you're trying to take photos of the
splotches of blood there's an old man in the corner going, I'm tired.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shut up, grandpa.
Get out of, you're in, you're, you're, you're,
you're f***ing canes in the corner of the photo.
Can you get out of the way, man?
Move the wheel.
Can someone wheel him off the set, please?
Yes, make sure that the people whose house you're visiting,
you do so consensually
and not through breaking and entering their back window.
So as I said, with no answers and no more developments in the story, the whole event
was slowly forgotten. But not to everyone, because no one holds on to an obsession quite like a
paranormal investigator. And a year and a half later, Minnie and William received a mysterious phone call.
And we'll talk about who was on the other end of the line right after a few messages from today's sponsors.
So as I said, Minnie and William received a mysterious phone call one evening.
The name's Kurt Rowlett. I'm an investigator, and I also play in a rock band.
Leave these people alone.
Leave these people alone.
Stick to rock music.
These people are old.
I think you said they're nearly dead.
I said I'm an investigator.
I'm a paranormal investigator, and I also, yes, play in a rock band.
If you're not in fucking Bon Jovi, shut up about the rock band.
No one cares.
That's not important.
It's not important
who cares about my music.
Unless you want to hear a song.
New record out in April.
Like and subscribe.
But I'd like to
talk to you about the house.
Yes, of course.
What do you want, Mr. Rowlett?
Well, I know the police
didn't uncover any answers, but they're not looking in the right places.
You see, I'm a paranormal investigator.
I think what you could be dealing with is something supernatural.
Now, Minnie had been approached by a lot of people to investigate the house,
but something about Kurt Rowlett felt different.
However, she only had bad news to tell him. Well, I'm happy to answer any questions, Mr. Rowlett, but I'm afraid you'll be disappointed.
There was no blood in the house. Are you quite certain, Mrs. Winston? I have the police report
right in front of me. It says it here in black and white. Human blood, type O.
I don't care what that silly piece of paper says. It can't have been blood. I've thought of every
explanation, every possible cause and every justification, and it just doesn't make sense.
So I've made up my mind. It can't have been blood.
Pretty crazy.
This is the only way that Minnie and William are able to deal with it,
is just mentally decide.
She's a blood truther?
Yeah.
It didn't happen. Nope.
Yeah.
Nope.
This is her on the dock.
They're like, you killed him.
You killed a home intruder, and that's his blood.
Nope.
Can't have been. I'm a nice old lady. Killed a home intruder and that's his blood. No. Gantaban.
I'm a nice old lady.
You beat him to death with an iron, a hot iron.
Yeah.
I feel like I've definitely done that before in my life where I've done something so embarrassing that I'm just like, that never happened.
Maybe it wasn't me.
Yeah.
Maybe that was a dream.
And that was my brother Colin.
Yes, I'm sure of it.
And if you kind of mentally reinforce that enough times,
you can almost forget that it was real
until every night when you can't fall asleep
and you relive every bad thing that's ever happened to you in your life.
Whenever you get to this age,
whenever you're pushing 80, beyond.
We're talking about me and Kit, by the way.
We're a lot older than we let on. Yeah, our voices kind of belie our appearance and and our biological age um
whenever you're that age i say anything goes if you've got that far whatever your coping
mechanisms are they get you through life i'm like go for it well not everything like what i'm saying
is if you get to that age and the doctor's like,
you need to stop eating butter or else you're going to have a heart attack today,
I respect your right to say, no, butter is good for me.
Fill in the blank.
Whatever got you this far, keep doing that.
Oh, I see.
Because it's obviously something's worked to get you that
far anyway so yeah so in in mini's case she's like i have thought about it and i've decided
that it wasn't blood because i need to enjoy my life and i don't want to believe that there was
blood in my house i'm like yeah go for it if you make it 77 years without having something this
devastating happen yeah i'm just going to ignore it.
Go off, Queen.
Get out the Febreze, get out the paper tiles, and move on with your life.
Yeah.
If I get abducted by a UFO and then shot out of it into a lake,
and I come home that night to my family as an 80-year-old man dripping wet,
and they're like, Grandpa, what happened?
I'm like, nothing.
What's for dinner?
They're like, there is green goo dripping I'm like, Nothing. What's for dinner? They're like,
There is green goo
dripping out of your anus.
Always has been.
Is it corned beef this evening?
You know,
I'm taking that to the grave,
which is probably
in a couple days.
Your hands are shaking.
Too much to eat
the f***ing beef.
Well, even though
Minnie had convinced herself
that it wasn't blood, the police results didn't lie.
Reporters and investigators like Kurt Rowlett would continue to try and solve the mystery for years.
And while no concrete answers were ever found, there were some interesting theories.
The first, the Winston's daughter was a nurse.
So it wasn't beyond the realms of possibility that she had gotten her hands on a big ol' bag of blood.
Why?
With the right motive, Kit.
She could have put on your detective hat.
A pipe is optional.
She could have snuck into her parents' place and splashed blood all over to make it look like blood had appeared from nowhere.
Possibly to make them look unfit to care for themselves,
so she could swoop in and take charge of the finances or maybe the house.
But I appreciate that as a tall plan.
Just wait six months.
They're almost dead.
It's too long.
I got to do some Scooby-Doo shit.
Okay.
I understand that there's a potential motive, maybe, here, but I don't know.
I mean, sure, their daughter could get her hands on blood because she's a nurse.
I feel like anyone with access to the house could technically get their hands on blood if they really tried.
Not, what? Leaders?
I guess not human blood, but pig blood or something.
You think if I gave you a week, you could get me a liter of blood.
You confidently believe that.
Me? Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. The average guy in the street, I'll hand it to you.
Maybe not.
But me?
This sick motherfucker?
You're like, I actually need to unload a couple liters.
So you'd be doing me a favor, brother.
I'm giving it away.
I don't know i
don't think i could get blood if you ask me to that's not a wish i could um deliver on but look
they're just looking for logical connections where could all of this blood had come from
if it looks like no one broke into the house do you know anyone who has a lot of blood
um now that you mention it my my daughter's a mosquito so yeah she actually has a lot of it
you know they're looking for logical connections here okay bad first theory let's move on right
uh another theory could it's also not paranormal so i don't know why you're trying to sell me on it
let's get to the juicy ones you're gonna be just the fact that i'm going straight in with
the logical explanations ain't gonna is an indication of how bad the juicy ones are because
nothing paranormal has happened yet we haven't suggested one paranormal well nothing paranormal's
happened yet brother someone stabbed a house and it's bleeding out in front of us not the
paranormal kills a home intruder. That is the lead.
That better be on your little list of things
because that is the lead thing that's likely to have happened.
Another theory.
Could it have come from William's dialysis machine?
Technically, yes, but also technically, no.
The machine does remove blood from the human body,
which I didn't know
but it's the wrong blood type it's the wrong blood type it is yeah you kind of beat me to the punch there but as we said uh the blood type at the scene was type o and uh williams was type a
i swear to god if this last one isn't paranormal? What are we doing here? Without any strong logical
leads, investigators
were forced to look at illogical
leads. Specifically
the paranormal.
So don't worry, we've got a few paranormal
explanations as well. Thank God.
I just gotta play
good cop and bad cop in this case.
While diving into the
history of the house,
investigators uncovered something deeply disturbing.
While nothing tragic had happened in the house in the years that Minnie and William had been living there,
it did have a dark history.
One of the previous occupants was a man named Albert Thompson,
who met his grisly end in the 1950s.
One fateful night, Albert was struck by a car near his home.
He managed to make it all the way back to 1114 Fountain Drive.
But just as he reached the property line,
he sunk to the ground and the life drained from his body.
That's awful.
I cannot confirm this, but many people out there believe
that the house was bleeding on the anniversary of Albert's accident and are certain. His unfinished business here on Earth was converted into a standard kind of
this paranormal life ghostly energy
that resides in the house to this day
and on the anniversary
at the strike of midnight.
And if the moon is full,
the house will bleed Albert's blood.
There was a squirrel.
What?
There was a squirrel in the wall.
It suffocated and exploded.
So it wasn't there.
It wasn't the memory of Albert and the house? No, they found out. Huh. Yeah, the wall. It suffocated and exploded. So it wasn't there. It wasn't the memory of Albert and the house?
No, they found out.
Huh.
Yeah, the squirrel.
I thought they said it was like typo or something.
It was like...
It was wrong.
It was a squirrel.
Huh.
Yeah.
There were acorns found at the scene.
Kind of had me there as well with the last explanation.
No, I'm kidding.
Of course, it was human blood.
There was no squirrel.
This is just one explanation as to why something like this could be happening. A paranormal one, as we know.
because they got a press conference in 30 minutes and they better come up with a f***ing solution
for what happened here
or else the magazines are going to lose their minds.
And then some intern pipes up in a squeaky voice
and is like, well, you see, a guy did die on the property.
They all turn around.
They can't believe what they're hearing.
And maybe his ghost to this day.
They throw him out the window.
Like, anyone else got any bright f***ing ideas? what they're hearing and maybe his ghost to this day. They throw him out the window. They're like,
anyone else got any
bright f***ing ideas?
Yeah.
That's the exact same dude
who in the Apocalypse movies
would be like the scientist
who needs to warn the president.
And they're like,
Mr. President,
Mr. President.
Squeaky little voice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's like guards
like holding him back.
He's like,
do you understand
the level of clearance
you have to have
to even set foot
in this room, son? It's like, please, I must take a look at my spreadsheets, Mr. Perlittle. They pissed him back. He's like, do you understand the level of clearance you have to have to even set foot in this room, son?
He's like, please,
I must take a look
at my spreadsheets,
Mr. Perlittle.
They pissed him off.
Yeah.
Very similar,
very similar situation here.
I'm sure some
paranormal investigator
was trying to explain this.
Logically, as we just heard,
these are obviously connected.
But Kit and I know firsthand
paranormal investigators
aren't welcome
at a police station
they made that
abundantly clear to me
yeah we try about
once a week
to sneak in
using a variety of
moustache and glasses
based disguises
but
so far it's them
105
us
zero
yeah
and I keep trying to tell
Lieutenant Frank
I'm like
listen man I'm in the
cell half the week, at least let me walk around the office.
And he whipped me.
Let the lunatics run the asylum for a day and see what happens.
They're like, alright, I guess he can't do that much harm.
Okay Rory, you're allowed to be in charge for the day.
I pick up the megaphone.
All crime is legal!
Tonight is Purge Night!
Oh, God.
Put him back in the cell.
You somehow find a button that releases all prisoners, Joker style.
Fly, my pretties!
All right, Kit.
Well, as we approach the end of our investigation,
I think it's smart to take a step backwards here
and look at this phenomenon
that we're actually talking about, bleeding walls.
This isn't something that necessarily we've covered
on the podcast before,
but believe it or not,
this phenomenon is much more common than you may think.
For example, in 1988, residents of a home in Wisconsin suffered through nine months of devastating paranormal activity after purchasing a used bunk bed.
I don't know why that's such a funny object to be cursed.
What happened on this bunk bed?
Such a funny object to be cursed.
What happened on this bunk bed?
A couple of the rungs snapped and a 12-year-old... Got crushed.
Killed his puppy who was jumping up and down on the bed below.
Yeah, because it's kind of like,
all right, is it two ghosts or one ghost
and the rest belong to a normal boy?
I don't understand how this works necessarily.
It's like, oh, no, it has nothing to do with humans.
A beetle died and the spirit of this f***ed up beetle has haunted it.
This paranormal haunting included ghosts, strange noises,
and lastly, the claims that blood started seeping through the walls.
I'm starting to think the bunk bed had nothing to do with it.
That feels like a coincidence type thing.
What? Everything's totally fine and then all of a sudden you pick think the bunk bed had nothing to do with it. That feels like a coincidence type thing. What?
Everything's totally fine, and then all of a sudden you pick up a bunk bed from a garbage pile,
and your walls start bleeding?
I don't know, man.
I'm going to at least suspect the bunk bed first.
But you're saying another place where, in addition to lots of other paranormal phenomenon,
including bleeding walls.
Human blood?
And we have seen it in other investigations.
Can't remember off the top of my head.
Yeah, it's never...
But we definitely have.
It's never been the focal point, I think,
in any of our investigations,
but it has popped up before.
Yep.
Also in the Maryknoll Seminary,
the legends say that this now demolished seminary
was once haunted by the spirit of a monk
who hung himself in the bell tower.
But after his death, there were reports of fresh blood oozing down the tower's exterior.
Interesting. I didn't realize this was such a recurring paranormal theme.
And in the case of the San Pedro haunting,
a family in California claimed that while being tormented by a poltergeist,
they encountered a mysterious red ooze that seemed to drip down from their cupboards
and was later reportedly confirmed to be human blood plasma.
Jesus. And I mean, this is the, that is the crux of whether this is truly paranormal or not, isn't it?
Is whether it is real, because I'm sure that this is a pretty common theme you know if you
look at stories even like i don't know sleepy hollow or something like that the idea of like
i think it wouldn't even be relegated to just houses but even let's say a tree that someone
was hung on that maybe the tree would ooze liquid and yeah kind of you can see how people would
start to extrapolate and say well maybe it is blood because as you say it is true like you know even in a building or something like that
you know there could be rusty water or whatever that looks like blood yeah or some sort of tree
juice that looks like blood um what separates this story is that it is allegedly human blood
yeah i mean i don't know a lot about how those type of lab experiments work,
but I'd like to think they'd be able to tell what's blood and what isn't.
And what's maple syrup. Yeah.
Yeah, essentially. I mean, whether or not they can decide what type it is or where it came from
or the DNA of the person, sure, maybe that's a little harder to tell but if i give a guy a pint of milk that's got strawberry nesquik
in it enough to turn it blood red and i also give him a test tube of human blood i'd like to think
they'd be able to tell the difference quite easily but i mean devil's avocado here you bring up
strawberry nesquik if the crux of our tale today is a substance
turning up in a place
where it shouldn't be
with no probable cause,
namely blood,
is that enough to be paranormal?
If it were strawberry Nesquik,
and we did this whole investigation
with detectives coming to test it,
and they go,
it is indeed strawberry Nesquik,
but the problem is
Minnie and Will have never owned Nesquik powder.
No one they know has ever brought a glass of Nesquik
into the bathroom and yet,
there was Nesquik all over the house.
It's like, okay, is that paranormal?
It shouldn't be there.
There's no reason why it's there.
Yeah, it's like if you go home one day
and you find Monster Energy drink in your toilet. it's like if you go home one day and you find monster energy drink
in your toilet.
Yeah.
It's like,
is that paranormal?
I mean...
That's pretty f***ing dumb
now that you say it out loud.
It shouldn't be there
and I didn't put it there.
So unless...
Is that paranormal?
Unless the future ghost of Rory
who overdosed on monster energy
died in that toilet.
You're right.
Why is it?
The blood is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
Right.
Making it a lot spookier.
Because I guess it's the process as well here.
In the story, they talk about the walls bleeding.
Essentially, this stuff coming out of the walls
and covering the house.
Is that dramatized?
I mean, it's in the newspaper reportings. Well, you dramatized the hell out of it. I don the house is that dramatized i mean it's in the newspaper
reporting well you dramatize the hell out of it i don't know what you're talking about
i don't know what you're talking about man i'm just telling a story you said a day after tomorrow
style tsunami of typo blood you've got to look in this in this tiktok snapchat world that we live in
people have short attention spans and you gotta jazz it up no one lives in the TikTok Snapchat world that we live in. People have short attention spans and you've got to jazz it up.
No one lives in the Snapchat world.
You've got to jazz it up.
Did I mention Minnie was a 10?
She was gorgeous.
Maybe in her day,
but I saw the news report and she was an old lady.
I just got to keep it snappy.
And like every single police officer
was like fucking Hugh Jackman.
Just an absolute A-list god.
I don't know which side of
the story you're on by the way i've just got to keep people engaged sex sells action sells so
cool well you should go back in time and pick a different story because one thing happened
and we are at the end of the story it is too late to inject action and sex into this story of two senile old people who discovered a puddle.
I don't know.
I think sound effects and music can do a lot of heavy lifting.
I'm sure it did.
Even if I'm talking about something really boring with the right sound effects and music, anything can sound exciting.
Editor Phil, please put no sound effects over what rory just said
ideally turn off his microphone i really went for that cougar roar as well so that's going to
be extra embarrassing if that's dry because in my head it was layered with like maybe three other
cougars and now you're saying it's just going to be as it was so that's that's hard to kind of
process you just go to do a little mini roar.
It's going to be raw.
It's because I don't quite have the energy
or the heart to do another one.
So like this cougar is kind of like deflated a little bit.
So like, meow.
I feel like I'm barely a kitten.
Are we at the end of the story?
We're at the end for sure.
We're at the end for sure.
We ended about 30 minutes ago
and I've kind of been rambling ever since.
I've always seen myself as a rat.
Kit, this is a wild one today, but a unique one.
And as I said, while bleeding walls may have come up in past cases before,
never been the focus of an investigation and a really fun story to dive into.
One that has physical evidence in the sense of this was reported widespread in newspapers
across the country by respected writers.
This was investigated by the police, who confirmed that it was blood.
This is a phenomenon that's taken place in different locations all across the United States and the world.
But after all of that, we still have no idea really how or why this happened.
You're right. Unfortunately, it was reported on by reputable sources.
Even the newspaper clipping you showed me, the photos and everything were credited to Associated Press.
This clearly was international news on some level it feels tough because uh sitting here in my cozy little podcasting chair i struggle
to see what what makes this so paranormal that being said if i were to walk a mile in minnie's
dusty old loafers i would think it was paranormal if this happened to me yeah 100 it was my house
and if someone if blood appeared out of nowhere and i called the authorities and they tested it
and said it really was blood i would uh i start praying to i would start thinking i was
praying to the wrong god i'd start praying to a different god um because if i'm not long for this
world i want to be going to the right place but i'm not many and yeah we are sitting here as you
say 30 plus years later is it really paranormal That is the million dollar question as the lead investigator. What are you thinking? It's a hard one. You know, I think as a critic,
you can say, all right, well, if this blood was everywhere, truly, why aren't there any pictures
of the blood in the house? But then, you know, on the other side of that, can you just take pictures
of blood in a house well also essentially
a crime scene would it change our minds at all like it's been confirmed that it was blood yeah
maybe seeing how dramatic it actually was if it literally looked like a human detonated in an old
woman's living room uh no one knows where they came from. Yeah, it might change my mind a little bit,
but we're just left with kind of these empty holes where evidence really should go. So we're left
having to put a lot into our imaginations of what this scene looked like. I don't know. I'm kind of
torn with this one today. My heart wants to say yes, because this is very strange but uh i don't know i feel
like i'm just missing that last part that would tip me over the edge hand me the shotgun rory i
will happily take the shot uh for me it is gonna be a no today right um i respect that i do as you
say pretty unique pretty unique. Pretty unique stuff.
But I am just missing that silver bullet.
We did hear the story of Albert, but I don't know.
Not quite enough for me today.
All right.
Well, go easy on the case is all I'm going to say.
Because I put a lot of work into it.
And you can say no.
And you can still say yes.
That's fine, yeah.
You can big it up for yourself.
You can still get it.
That's 50% of the way.
Yeah.
Well, just don't bash it too hard.
I didn't.
Is all I'm going to say.
I didn't.
Or else, you know,
maybe I'll take a little blood sample
from you, mother f***er.
All right.
All right.
Or he's got a pen knife.
He's got a pen knife.
And he doesn't know how to use it.
He's like, he can't,
he's actually...
There's bloody blood all over these walls.
These studio walls.
He's trying desperately to flick up the,
all he's got so far
is the nail file bit
of the Swiss Army knife,
which I don't think
you can do much with.
Just watch it.
That's all I'm going to say.
Or else Kit's going to disappear
and this place is going to be
a crime scene.
How about that?
That is a threat.
That is a threat
and I don't take kindly to it.
I'm not saying
I'm going to do anything.
I'm just saying,
you know,
I've been...
Don't finish this thought
because you're going to...
Why do I feel like
this is going to be
the worst threat?
It's not a threat
I'm being very ambiguous
With my threats
So that they can't be recited
Against me
In a court of law
We're recording too
So this can all be
Played back
So just be careful
Or else I'm gonna
Bleed you dry
Yeah
That's a phrase people use
That's a phrase people use
That wasn't a threat
But I think you need to Just be positive dry yeah that's a phrase people use that's a phrase people use that wasn't a threat but i think
you need to just be positive i think you need to be part type b positive it is because i'm gonna
shank you when you turn your back yeah that's right i'm gonna cut down from the episode but
i'm gonna do it uh look it took the lead here and like many, I must follow in his path
I'm gonna
Oh, what am I gonna do?
I haven't come down on conclusions just yet
We gotta keep talking, bud
I'm not quite there yet
Alright, I was being nice
I don't know what the f*** you're dilly-dallying around
There's nothing to this
There's nothing to this
What are you talking about?
We got a f***ing goose
Flew through the window,
lost a fight
with Minnie or Will or whoever.
They forgot about her
on account of being old as f***.
She came out of the shower
and stood on a rat.
The rat exploded
and it got stuck on her foot.
She couldn't see it,
but the blood was everywhere.
I'm going to go no.
I'm going to go no.
I'm missing too much, too many pieces of this story to
confidently say uh that this is paranormal i mean it's been investigated by other paranormal
investigators no one's been able to come down on a conclusion or an explanation even the the claims
about the guy who passed away there long ago barely is a reason why this should be happening.
Barely.
I mean, he didn't get like,
he didn't die building the house.
He didn't get crushed by a wall
during its construction.
He was just hit by a car
and I think died on the lawn.
Yeah, I mean,
there should be no reason why.
By that measure,
every house on earth is haunted.
Someone has died near any house on earth.
Yeah, absolutely.
So unfortunately, this week on the podcast,
it's going to be a double no for the bleeding house of Atlanta.
But hey, what a fantastic case.
An excuse to get back to Rory's ancestral homeland.
Hell yeah.
Let me tell you, I've always felt like a bit of a nomad.
Okay.
You know, I was born in Georgia, over in the States.
Didn't spend a lot of time there.
Moved to Northern Ireland, moved to London, Wales.
Lived in Toronto for a while.
Kind of all over the place.
So never really felt like I had a proper home.
Till I went back to Georgia.
Till I went back to Georgia.
Your voice has changed.
This month.
And it was fantastic.
Southern hospitality is a real thing.
Everyone was so sweet.
And I drank peach iced tea.
And I smoked cigars in a rocking chair.
You mean to tell me that you had a better time in Georgia than you did in Newport, Wales, Rory?
I'm finding that a little hard to believe.
And the bitter north coast of Northern Ireland.
It's funny because we always say that
people kind of give LA a bad rep
because they say people out there are nice,
but it's all really fake.
Right, fake nice.
How about just not nice at all?
How about real meanness?
Because that's what you get in the UK, is just real mean people.
So I'll take fake nice any day.
But my point being, Georgia was real nice.
It was the ultimate combo.
And not real nice.
It wasn't real nice.
Well, it was real nice.
The people being nice was real.
Yes, it really was.
So I had a lovely time.
I felt like I was kind of returning to my home planet.
It was fantastic.
So definitely we'll be looking for more excuses to visit Atlanta and Georgia and Savannah,
both physically and on this podcast.
Well, we'll talk about a little bit on the after party,
but a lot of the most haunted places in Savannah, like the Moon River Brewing Company and the Pirate's House and the 1790 Inn and Restaurant.
These were all locations we investigated on an episode, a bonus episode of the podcast.
And I went to them.
I went to almost all of them on my last trip. Yeah, well, maybe we'll have to loop this kind of thing in where we do a bit like our pub crawl of London,
checking out the most haunted locations in the city.
Maybe we could do such a thing.
Yeah, I think there's an actual service in Savannah
that is just a haunted pub crawl.
Got you.
Where they just take you around
all these incredibly old haunted buildings.
And you get to drink,
have a few spirits with the spirits
so as i said a double no this week but hell a great case i hope you guys enjoyed it i know i
had a great time hosting it thank you to amy grisdale for researching and philip shack lady
for editing i'm going to be talking about all the crazy details of my trip to georgia and savannah
on the after party this week.
So if you want to check it out and hear all the gory details.
Gory details?
Things are not gory.
Well, I got the sunburn of a lifetime.
Okay.
So there's your first gory detail.
I became a paranormal monster, basically.
Because every night I was covered in so much aloe vera gel.
I was like some sort of
X-Files slug man, the slug man of Savannah, they called me. And you guys know that when Rory went
to the Braves game and they won, he went Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde mode. I can't remember which
one is the bad one, but he went that way. There must be Mr. Hyde because Dr. Jekyll is the doctor.
They're both pretty formal to be fair. Yeah. Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde.
It sounds like it would be like,
please, Mr. Hyde is my father.
I'm Dr. Jekyll.
Let me find out.
Jekyll is a kind and respected English doctor
who has repressed evil urges.
So Jekyll good, Mr. Hyde bad.
Yeah.
Very confusing.
Rory good, Mr. Powers bad.
Yeah. I feel like if you're going gonna have a whole evil side to yourself you should call it something very distinct so people know
so it's like hey don't call your f***ing uh green goblin persona martin
it's like yeah if i have a few too many Jaegers,
Martin's going to come out.
Right.
And then,
was he like,
90 minutes later,
you're shanking people at the pub.
That's not okay.
Yeah.
You got to be like,
Hey,
yeah.
Half the time.
I'm Dr. Jekyll.
Sometimes I drink this little potion and become Zancorno.
Right.
Yeah.
No one's getting Zancorno mixed up with the good guy right it's like oh
who's coming out tonight oh um steven claire and uh zancorno it's like all right he's the bad one
yeah i might stay he's up uh thank you so much for listening to this week's podcast if you want
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over there is a shout out right here at the end of the podcast let's get into it special thank you
to liz miller liz miller the ramp killer liz taught tony hawk everything Whoa. He knows today. So not even skateboarding, like taxes and shit as well.
That too. How to wipe his goddamn ass.
But Liz also was the first person to do the 900.
Little known fact.
Oh my God, Liz.
Can you please join our professional commune skateboard team?
We don't have any boards yet.
But, you know, I think we could do a lot of sports psychology training
we do have a lot of
empty bowls
so
thanks also to
Maxwell
Maxwell
you are definitely
needed at the
commune
because our wells
are bone dry
so if we could get
one maxed out
well
just full of
fresh water
that would be great
that would be really
fantastic
and quickly
if you could, Maxwell,
because I'm parched.
Yeah.
And short run today,
last thank you
to James Standen.
James is great.
He offers a service
where if you need
a stand-in,
he'll do it for you.
So if you're at a funeral,
it's your wedding day,
and you're just slammed,
you can't make it,
James will stand in. Oh, that's really handy because actually i have um yeah because i got a funeral to go to this
weekend i just can't be bothered right those things are so sad like i'm like okay i'm gonna
stand around and pretend like oh i'm so sad like yeah james will stand out of here like you know
what i mean even when you're close to them it's's like, I don't know if I'm a psychopath,
but I just like,
Don't feel anything.
I just don't feel anything.
It's crazy, right?
No, I completely understand.
Everyone's kidding themselves.
Everyone's like,
Ooh.
We're going to miss him so much.
It's like,
I don't know.
It's not doing anything for me.
It's crazy.
So James,
if you could turn on the waterworks,
that'd be great.
Yeah.
Because I want people to think that I feel.
I want people to think that I feel. He's unfortunately not available currently because i got him to stand
in uh for me for a six-year prison sentence so he gets out in about 13 months and then he'll be back
ready to stand a mafia boss someone took the fall for you i'm the reason you're going to a funeral
let me just say that.
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I had a blast hosting this one.
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