This Paranormal Life - #338 Aliens Abduct UN General - The Brooklyn UFO

Episode Date: October 24, 2023

1989 - two years before the birth of the two greatest paranormal investigators of all time, but just in time for the UFO event of the century. Linda Napolitano was minding her own business when an alien intruder made their way into her home and sucked her literally and figuratively into a whirlwind adventure that would involve abduction, alien surgery, regression hypnosis, and the UN Secretary General. Strap in for the story of the Brooklyn UFO.LIVE TOUR - https://www.thisparanormallife.com/tourFollow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If people keep getting taller, are we the ancestors of giants? If I can eat soul food, why can't I straight up eat souls? Answers to these questions and more on This Paranormal Life! Hello! Yo! And welcome back to This Paranormal Life. It's Tuesday. It is the time of the week when you get hit with the award-winning Comedy Paranormal

podcast, This Paranormal Life. Every week we bring you a different paranormal case and decide by the end of the episode whether it's real or not. I'm joined as always by Rory Parrs. How are you doing today, Rory? Thank you so much for having me. Some great questions at the start of the podcast. You know, I've always been disappointed in my life that the key to living a healthy life and longevity isn't just consuming other people because on paper that seems like that's how you'd live longer i don't i don't see the connection people younger than you but it's you gotta eat vegetables you gotta eat your fruit in what ways eating fruit more trouble for you than eating people a banana lives and dies in the span of a week why is eating that thing gonna make me live longer okay it couldn't survive a fortnight so you i need

to eat a turtle well it would survive if it were still on the tree but if you picked it from the tree i guess yeah it only lasts a few days yeah i i get it you're like yoshi you think that you should be able to eat something and absorb its abilities. Yeah. You know, I think if that were the case, if the quest for living longer was a bit more magical, a bit more mythical, you know, if it involved kind of potions, that would be a lot cooler. And I think a lot more people would be interested in it. You just don't want to eat like celery. I don't want to eat celery and I don't want to do cardio. Okay. I want to make a witch's brew in a metal pot and smelt gold in a cauldron underneath a full moon.

I want to do some cool stuff, you know? And I really need to increase my longevity because the amount of fumes I've inhaled from the gold smelting has shortened my years significantly. It's a miracle I'm alive now because of all the shit I've done to try and live longer. Yeah. Normally, if you get called a golden boy, it means you're great, not that your lungs look like discount jewelry and you're going to die aged 36.

age 36. Yeah, scientists discovered a prehistoric worm that was frozen for ice for a million years and I went to the site without missing a beat. I ate the worm. I ate the worm assuming I too would live for a million years. Turns out

the worm actually lives for a very short period of time. It was only because it was frozen in ice that it managed to survive that long. But that is not what we are here to talk about today. Damn. We're here instead to talk about quite a different paranormal case. One that we're going to get to the bottom of. I have to give a bit of a spoiler.

This is going to be a rip-roaring ride. This is, I don't know, in the vein of like a Mission Impossible movie or a Jason Bourne movie. This is, we're going to have to keep up. I hope we've got popcorn. Okay, so usually on this podcast, we take a little bit of time

to set the scene, establish the characters and the backstory. You're saying this is a hundred miles per hour right off the get-go. Right. This is a Scorsese director's cut uh this is

just all the action i think he famously doesn't include a lot of action and it's incredibly long oh i need the opposite of a director's cut no we don't want scorsese director's cut we want the we want the cut of the scorsese movie after the studio got it this was edited by michael bay's son so jacked up on adderall that he added twice as many action scenes and cut all the dialogue this is yeah michael bay's tiktok addicted teenage son yeah grandson all of the scenes where the the transformers are chatting to each other those were are replaced with graphic sex scenes. The story's borderline nonsense. It's action and sex.

That's exactly what we're going to get into. A rip-roaring UFO-related story. Right after a couple words from today's sponsors. Reminder, you can get every episode of this podcast ad-free at patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life along with a lot of other content. Rory, it was November 30th, 1989. It was a crisp, clear night in the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Very cool.

At the time that this podcast is dropping, we will have just been to New York City. Your first time, I think, in New York City? Second time. First time when I was about the size of an elephant and went just to the M&M store. You didn't really see anything else. Yes, you were a child. That's what I forgot. So this is the first time as an adult.

Yeah, a child, but with the same body mass I have now as a grown man. Right. Somehow. That's borderline paranormal. A sort of child resembling like a miniature sumo wrestler or something. But yeah, you're right. We'll have just been to New York and hopefully had some pretty cool experiences that don't involve confectionery. It had been a normal day for 21-year-old Linda Napolitano.

She'd taken care of the house and her kids and was ready for a restful night's sleep. But in the middle of the night, she found herself stirring. Her husband was snoring raspily, as usual, but something felt off. She rolled over and sat up. Yawning, she opened her weary eyes and glanced over the room. There was something in there with her.

It looked like a person, but also the furthest thing from a person she could imagine. Hold up, hold up. This thing is in the room? Oh yeah. What? It was only four feet tall, with sallow grey skin and huge black eyes looking right at her. Oh my god. I kind of appreciate this. She threw a pillow at the creature in panic. She tried to shake her husband awake, but he was dead to the world and didn't even stir when she started screaming.

even stir when she started screaming. She felt an odd sensation in her head and heard words that weren't hers echoing inside her own mind. These are the two times you know a case has gone bad when someone does the ka-choo, ka-choo noise or the nga-ma-da-ma, nga-ma-da-ma-da-ma-da-ma-da-ma. No one said, no one said there was going to be a giv-a-op, gibbity-bobbity-bop. Even though we've heard it in many episodes previously. But we need to take this seriously, okay?

Because this is stressful, extremely stressful for Linda. She probably is in therapy to this day because of the events that took place. Therapy on the planet Gargon. By the way, this is trending. You might be right there. So let's just take this next step in the story. A therapy on the planet Gargon. By the way, this is trending. You might be right there. So let's just take this next step in the story we're going to take very seriously. Okay.

It's hard to take it seriously if you can't even make it through the line. It's not the line, it's the situation. I was thinking about a thing that happened earlier today. It wasn't the line. But the line, though, I'll say it now. Shut up! A white cloth suddenly enveloped Linda's face, and she couldn't make a sound.

She was still thrashing and clawing at her husband, but the feeling was draining from her toes. A horrible numbness was spreading through her body, and before long, she was completely immobilized. Jesus Christ, she got chloroformed? This little guy scrambled over and held a cloth over her mouth. Her vision was obscured by the cloth wrapped around her face, but she could see that the room was being bathed in a cold blue light.

She could feel the beam of light pulsing through her body, and it was contorting her limbs into the fetal position. It picked her up and floated her outside, through the solid glass of her closed window. The material came off her face as she met the night air, and she could see the New York streets 12 stories below. Holy shit! She wished she could cry out and get someone's attention, but only her eyes seemed to be working.

She has been picked up like in a crane game and has been lifted out her 12th story apartment building. That is terrifying. The blue beam was pulling her high into the sky and she realized she wasn't the only passenger. They were three of these grey beings from her bedroom flying alongside her. They were headed for, you guessed it, a round ship with pulsing lights on its underside. Okay, you weren't joking.

This is really starting strong today and kicking things off pretty fast. Because usually at this point in the story, we see a mysterious blur in the distance. And someone, oh, it's not making any noises. Yeah. We are basically five minutes in and a little imp stormed the room, put a bag over her head and threw her out the window. You know, I cut a couple lines because you kind of made fun of it but they said give it a buddy back give it a bubbly back did they yeah uh yeah unfortunately yeah you're right you know i said this was a bit like a movie you know in a

tasteful kind of spielbergian science fiction yeah, the first ten minutes of the movie might be like, you know, normal life happening out on a ranch in North Carolina. Right. You know, and then the protagonist is kind of walking through, you know, a truck stop or a grocery store, and they just, you know, they hear some interesting stories on the radio. It's fading in and out. It's like, you know, some strange objects.

Some strange objects were seen in a local town. And then the guy in the shop turns it over. He's like, damn news, I never listened to it anyway. And then you see it in the background of the shot. You see a newspaper with another interesting little Easter egg of what might be happening on the other side of the world. We're waiting 30, 40 minutes. Before anything kicks off. Before we even see side of the world. We're waiting 30, 40 minutes. Before anything kicks off.

Before we even see something in the sky. Yeah. Today's case is more like, this is more like a straight-to-DVD rental where a borderline Facebook profile picture of the aliens is on the front of the DVD box, and we're seeing those suckers within seconds of the movie starting. Yeah, we went straight from the title screen

to an alien standing over you going, shut up, slapping you across the face. So, to recap, we were on a UFO. It opened up like a clam and swallowed the floating figures and sped off into space. Sorry. All right. Linda had never been so scared in her life.

She was in a huge room with a long table in the middle. Something told her that whatever brought her here was about to strap her down on it, which, in fairness, is not a crazy leap. That tends to be... We're in an abduction story here. That tends to be what happens. This is pretty fascinating stuff here. This is, that tends to be what happens. This is pretty fascinating stuff, Rory,

because we cover a lot of UFO stories, a lot of paranormal stories on this podcast. It's not, actually, it's not every day we get firsthand abduction accounts. Yeah, and they all unfortunately do follow this kind of pattern, being brought onto a ship, usually being strapped to a table and someone having a good old fiddle inside.

Well, no, let's not get ahead of ourselves. I said fiddle, not diddle. That was a specific distinction. A group of the grey humanoids filed into the room and lunged right at her. They wrestled her onto the slab, no matter how hard she fought. Once they'd secured her in place, all she could do was scream. The echo was deafening. There was something weird

about the acoustics of the room. Her screams rang out from the walls even louder than they did from her lungs. One of the creatures put its hand over her mouth to keep her quiet and hissed the word knobby egg. Okay. Kn knobby egg. Okay.

Knobby egg? N-O-B-B-Y-E-G-G. Knobby egg. Got it. Even though it wasn't English, she knew it was a threat to stop screaming. She tried her best to calm down,

but the gleaming array of medical instruments they had kept her nerves on edge. You know you've got a pretty threatening aura going on. If you can say the words knobby egg and people know it means shut up. Because if your daughter looked at me in the eyes and said knobby egg, I'd be like, oh, that's adorable. What's a knobby egg? Did you have that for lunch today? But if a nine foot gray man with no face somehow emits the sound knobby egg while holding like a ray gun to the side of my head, I'm not making a beef.

Oh, it's very clear what knobby egg means. He didn't really need To say anything Yeah He could have just Could have just gone He's grunted If anything

He picked a word That makes me want to talk And he said Shut up earlier So he Knows some English He can't speak English So

Maybe he got his Phrase book mixed up He thought he was saying Like calm down or something Right that's silence on a different planet Right She was stuck staring up at the ceiling And a circle of grotesque faces came into view above her

One had a long silver implement She thought looked more like a crowbar than a surgical tool And when the aliens thrust it up her nose, the pain was so intense that she lost consciousness. Oh, God, that's awful. Linda rolled over in bed, squinting into the morning sun. Her husband was sitting up, reading the newspaper. Good morning. How'd you sleep? Not too good, actually. I had this awful dream.

I was on a spaceship and there were some kind of extraterrestrials there. Don't worry, darling. That sounds like a bunch of knobby egg. I mean nonsense. Nonsense I meant. Shut up, you. Shut up, wife up wife Human wife

Oh sounds awful Thank god it was just a dream Hey is your nose okay? It looks a little red Linda leapt out of bed And rushed to the mirror She could feel the inflammation pulsating before she saw how sore it looked. Ah, it hurts. I must have knocked it in the night.

Maybe I had to fight the aliens in my dream. As the day went on, she let the visions from the night before sink to the back of her mind. The only thing that was really nagging at her was her throbbing nose. It was so bad, even days later, that she went to see the doctor. I'm afraid I can't see anything in there, Mrs. Napolitano. Have you had no surgery before? It looks like swelling from an old surgery. But she'd never had surgery before. She even called her mum to confirm there wasn't something when she was a little kid. She did a little bit of research and reached out to Bud Hopkins, a New York UFO expert.

He'd seen a flying saucer with his own eyes as a teenager and dedicated his career to writing about interplanetary travellers and connecting with those that have crossed paths with them. This is an interesting situation to be in because we don't know right now if Linda hurt her nose at some point in the night and her subconscious manifested that pain with the dream of having it hurt in this hypothetical situation, an abduction. I liken it to,

you know, I've had, like many people as they grow older, I'm prone to a midnight leg cramp. Which, I'm sure, you've had one of these before,

right? Yeah, I have. It's ringing a bell not in a long time. Really? Okay. I'm prone to weekly midnight leg cramps.

I apparently thought it was a... It was some goddamn magnesium. This is a much more common thing. You're seizing up. You have pre-death rigor mortis. You're seizing up. I sleep at night like a dead spider. I'm coiled up like a ball.

My bones contorted. Just face agony. Just sleeping in agony. You're like, eat one vitamin and it'll help. But if you've never had this before, you lucky bastard. But essentially, you will be in the middle of a sleep. And then all of a sudden, it begins.

Out of nowhere, the flesh on your body feels like it's being pulled taut in a medieval torture device. We need to get you to stretch. For the next 10 to 15 seconds, you have to lie there in bed while you're paralyzed

with crippling pain until it dies down and you blissfully sink back into relaxation and fall asleep again it's usually what happens you said this was weekly does this have any correlation with leg day yes okay because the only thing i could think of is uh i don't exercise don't believe in it. Men shouldn't exercise. Ridiculous. You sound like 15-year-old Rory in New York City. But I also don't get leg cramps. Is it possible that my legs and calf muscles

are kind of like Wagyu beef? They're massaged with beer and classical music. They're completely useless, borderline, borderline, uh, non-existent. Uh, but it also means they can't cramp. Well, we we've talked about it before you and I are kind of living different versions of a healthy lifestyle. Uh, you're vegan. Your diet is great. You get all your fruit and veg and nutrients every single day. Uh, but you hate to exercise i exercise on average one to two hours a day uh but i eat like shit and drink like shit uh we don't know

which one of us is going to live longer we're kind of like an experiment that way yeah weird experiment apparently mine results in nightly nightly death cramps uh which you don't suffer from. But the whole reason I was bringing this up is I usually wake up when I get one of these cramps. I'm sure I'm going to get a flurry of people saying I should just eat a banana before I go to bed. But if I didn't wake up from one of these cramps, would my mind in the dream process it as some kind of traumatic thing happening to me to justify the pain that i'm feeling subconsciously you have a dream where you are a washcloth and a giant is kind of ringing you out as you crumping just being destroyed because i've had it before where i'll dream i'm

like holding something or you know squeezing something and then you wake up and you're holding your pillow or, you know, something like that. There's a world in which at this point in our story, this could be semi-natural despite maybe getting lifted out of the window, having the bag on your head. If all we have is the evidence of the red nose, so far that could be an injury that occurred while unconscious it's true we've seen it with abductions before often they do take place in and around night and around sleep it creates a suspicious vibe where we're like is this part of a dream so we do need more evidence to establish that this is indeed alien activity. Like I said, she went to an abduction support group,

which I haven't personally been to an AA meeting, but we've all seen support group meetings in movies and TV. Can you imagine an abduction support group? What do they talk about around the coffee machine? Hey, everyone. I want you to give a warm welcome to Linda. She's had an interesting time recently, and I just know you'll make her feel at home.

Hi, Linda. Hi, Linda. At the meeting, Linda kept quiet, though. Bud knew then that a group session wouldn't be enough to crack this nut. He'd have to go deeper. Full regression hypnosis. Ooh, a very popular technique used when we're looking at someone who claims to have had some sort of UFO encounter.

We've seen it before with the Cash Landrum case. Yeah. With Travis Walton. I believe a lot of the information he said about his abduction was all done through regression therapy and kind of hypnotherapy. So it would be interesting to see what results we get in today's case. Yeah, I guess the theory, if I'm to recap from my own understanding, the idea is something to the effect of if you were abducted and you were essentially neuralized, like in the Men in Black movies starring Will Smith. If you were abducted and you were essentially neuralized, like in the Men in Black movies starring Will Smith, the idea here is that we've got, you know, your eyes are a CCTV camera, but the tape got scrambled.

Right, right. Now we're trying to use hypnosis to unscramble that tape. The idea being that somewhere buried in your brain is the memory of what happened. So the two met in his office and he began the preparations to put her under. I see. And then what happened? They did all sorts of experiments on me. Every part of my body. I feel so violated. Interesting, interesting. Bud heard the whole bizarre saga and believed every word.

When Linda awoke, she could remember the events of that awful night. Whoa! And suddenly the world seemed a whole lot scarier than she'd ever thought before. Yeah, God, that worked too well. We were trying to just get an idea of what happened. It all came back, even the bad bits. Now she's got to go to a therapist to deal with that rory i've promised you a wild tale today and i believe we're starting to follow through with that promise but you have

no idea where this is about to go we're going to get into the rest of linda's story right after a couple words from today's sponsors if Bud was already disturbed and reeling from what Linda told him, nothing could have prepared him for what would happen next. He received a letter. It was from a pair of people claiming to be witnesses to Linda's abduction. Whoa, they had every detail right.

They'd seen the whole thing. The two, Richard and Dan, told Bud they were police officers and needed to see Linda urgently to make sure she was okay. When the pair arrived at Linda's house, Dan in particular was acting a little strangely. As soon as the door was open, he fell to his knees and wept with relief. I'm sorry, sorry. It's just such a relief to see you alive and well. The last time we saw you, you were disappearing into the sky, but here you are. The men came inside and offered out some coffee and donuts, and the three chatted about the night in question

like old friends. But within weeks, they get back in touch. And things don't go quite as smoothly. Linda was walking along a busy New York when a car pulled up alongside her. Hey, Linda! Funny running into you here. It's your old friends, Richard and Dan. Why don't you hop in? Oh, I'm sorry, but I can't. I gotta go to the market for groceries and do some errands before I go pick up the- I said hop in. I assume is what happened next in the story. It is, yes.

What? The line was, I said get in the car. Oh boy. Oh boy. Dan grabs her and forces her into the backseat. These are the policemen? Supposed policemen. Okay.

They drive her down a deserted alleyway and begin interrogating her. What did they do to you? Did they say anything to you? Think! But soon, the questions got weird. Have you noticed you've developed any special abilities since the abduction? We need to see your feet. Show us your feet, Linda. Come on, shoes off. We need to see those feet. She sobbed as she took off her socks, more scared and confused than she'd ever been in her life. Poor Linda. Okay, they're human. You can put them away. After hours of increasingly bizarre questioning,

they drove her back into the busy city and let her out of the car. She watched as it sped away, trying to take a mental note of the license plate. She knew she couldn't call the police. The police just kidnapped her. There was only one person she could trust. And he was four foot tall?

No. And had a crowbar. And his name ended with egg and rhymed with Robbie. If you're ever abducted and people are asking you questions about it, you want it to be stuff that feels like it's important. Like, what shape was the craft? You know,

did the aliens, were they carbon-based creatures? Or was it something more abstract you don't want a guy grabbing you shaking you and being like the nipples linda how many nipples how could that possibly be the thing that's important right now did they wear nike or adidas they didn't wear either yeah it feels like there should be way more important questions going on. The light speed travel, could you deduce from your limited time there how it was achieved? But it's just ridiculous stuff. It is funny to think, isn't it?

It's like, it's nuts how if someone did have a close contact like that, all the smallest bits of information would be so crucial. Because today, scientists, you know, we spend billions putting rovers on Mars just to see if there's f***ing hydrogen in the atmosphere. We're spending so much time and energy trying to get the most basic details. So, yeah, like you say,

just finding out what color they are or how tall they are is a Leonardo da Vinci level breakthrough in science and technology. I guess the implication is if they're asking you specific questions like, how big were their feet? And you're like, I don't know, normal size. It's a worrying thing if their response is, okay, so they weren't Glimbo's. So you know what a Glimbo is? You already know that something exists that has different feet. You're trying to deduce what this is.

It's a weird situation to be in. You know what I'm doing if I'm in a room with two, let's face it, MIBs. I'm putting my fingers in my f***ing ears and I am not taking them out until they drop me off somewhere. Because, you know, the one way

to get smoked around MIBs is to hear a secret that you shouldn't have heard. Okay. I don't want to hear the word Glimbo. That means I'm getting a bullet in my head because I know too much. I need to just close my eyes, cover my ears so nothing can go in. I think that will also mean you get shot if you refuse to answer any questions.

But hey, you just got to try anything, I think, at this point. Has anyone tried pretend to be asleep? I hope they drop you off outside your house. Honk snooing in front of the MIBs. That could just work. Occasionally, like, opening one eye very slightly to see if they're buying it. That's right. The one person she could trust was Bud Hopkins.

He was horrified to hear about Richard and Dan's activities and tried to track down the car's owner. And a few days later, he got a letter from Richard explaining that Dan was in a bit of a state. He'd had to be signed off work because he was having a mental break since witnessing the abduction. He'd fallen in love with Linda and was so obsessed with her that he was struggling to function. That makes the request for taking the shoes off a little weird. He also, I'm sure that was above board, he also makes another confession.

They aren't police. They're bodyguards for a high-level political figure. Specifically, Secretary General of the United Nations, Javier Perez de Cuellar. But it turned out Richard and Dan were not Linda's only problem. She was now being tailed dawn to dusk. There were men in black suits everywhere she went.

Smart black cars with agents in them parked outside her apartment around the clock. Leave her alone. Just leave her alone. I feel like women have enough harassment to deal with on a daily basis. Leave her alone and let her live her life. It sounds like if anything happens, she's going to come and tell a daily basis. Just leave her alone and let her live her life. It sounds like if anything happens, she's going to come and tell you about it. She's actually pretty keen on that part of the story.

So just leave her alone. On top of this, she was still in pain. Her nose was still hurting. The doctors weren't taking her seriously, and eventually a doctor friend of a friend agreed to take an x-ray. When he got the pictures back, he was floored by

what he saw. You've got something implanted in your nose. It's clear as day on the x-rays. It's six millimeters long with a coil at each end. I got no idea what it could be doing there. Come down to my office on Monday morning and we'll get it taken care of. But when the appointment came around, there was nothing in her nose at all. And the doctor was dead. There was a little coil in his brain. A nine millimeter

Beretta coil. Yeah, that's right. He died of lead poisoning. The little piece of metal was gone and Linda had no idea how. Is it possible the aliens implanted something in her nose that's a real question oh you're asking me uh you know it's something that we do again see a lot in abduction stories people getting abducted and then in the next morning

seeing a little mark on their skin that wasn't there before seeing a little bump um and the theory being that uh you know if you get picked up by one of these crafts they're going to put a little tracking device in you to keep an eye on you it's a big world so they want to make sure if they come back they can swoop you up again very accurately it's pretty fascinating i think most abductions kind of involve probing and testing and this kind of thing, but it's pretty fascinating to think that they would leave something behind. A little intergalactic air tag to keep tags on you.

Again, if we could uncover such a thing, reverse engineer it, we would learn a lot. I'd at least stop losing my keys quite as often. Bud was now at a loss too and offered to give her some more hypnosis to see if there's anything else she had blocked out. During their session, Linda recalled her abduction.

But now she could see Richard and Dan there, as well as Secretary General of the United Nations, Javier Perez de Cuellar. Okay. Bud started to wonder, this can't all be a coincidence. Surely the aliens were trying to make contact with the UN. They were trying to be taken to our leader. Why else would they have somehow got roped into, just by chance, the Secretary General of the United Nations being there? Bud also went as far to say, those aliens had probably been following all four of them since they were children, abducting them repeatedly over the years, only they all couldn't remember it.

I personally don't know where he got that idea or how that would make sense, but that is what he said. All I know is we should trust the words of a fellow paranormal investigator. To a certain degree. Just the words of a fellow paranormal investigator. To a certain degree. Which more or less brings us to the present day of this case. This has come to be known as the 1989 Brooklyn UFO or the abduction of Linda Napolitano.

It has been featured in multiple television programs, documentaries and written pieces. It was reported in the news at the time, in kind of print news in a couple of places around the USA, because it is obviously an absolutely wild story, one that, like so many on this Paranormal Life, if true, destroys the history in science books, but also has some elements which are difficult

to wrap our heads around, to say the least. Rory, we've had similar kind of abduction stories. Where does this one kind of line up for you compared to those? I mean, as you said, we've had a lot of, well, we've had a lot of UFO stories. It is rare that we have a story where the person who's telling it claims to have actually been on board the friggin thing. Usually it's enough of a story if we just see it in the night sky or it shoots a laser beam at a car or, you know, very rarely do the people actually make it on the craft and then make it back again. It's always a bit of a difficult one because saying that you saw something in the night sky is one thing. Saying you actually went on board and were operated on, but you have zero evidence of it. And the only way you can recall it is through experimental hypnotherapy.

I don't want to be too critical about these things, but we're always left in a situation where we have very little tangible physical evidence to back up these claims. That little metal coil, that would have been good. But are you saying that that thing just kind of disappeared on its own as soon as it was detected? It's like they recalled it to the mothership once they knew she was going to look for it. Which, you know, it's not beyond the realms of possibility. We have dissolving stitches for surgeries that, you know, once they're done, they kind of just disappear. Not on command.

Usually you don't say, all right, and the stitches go. So whatever they're dealing with, you know, that's something beyond our expertise. I'm struggling to see how the bodyguards and everything are intertwined in this story. I don't, the motivation behind it is a little strange. They are. They are a little strange. We seem actually at the end of the story a tiny bit confused, to be honest, whether they are even affiliated with the police, the United Nations. Yeah.

That's what they claim to be or whether they were in fact kind of men in black it seems a little bit fuzzy um I'm not saying that Linda's lying about the whole story she might be lying about Dan falling in love with her that seems just like I came out of nowhere that seems just like he had a mental breakdown because he was too in love with Linda that seems a little neat for the story. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I'm not going to necessarily put that one on Linda because usually the guy asking for feet pics is the one in the wrong. So I don't know who Dan is or what his deal is,

but he definitely doesn't seem like he's one of the good guys. And a lot of people have been skeptical about the story, thinking that it could be anything from linda and bud working together to concoct a story another that bud was taking advantage of linda and kind of you know planting the story with her making her believe it and using it for his own gain um what i will say is her midnight abduction was reportedly spotted by 24 witnesses this was not an isolated case with that said apparently some of the letters written to bud alleging they had witnessed it were in linda's. That can't be all 24. Okay.

But, you know, we've seen this before where there's like a popular story in the media that people will like write. I mean, it's in New York city. Yeah. There's 8 million whatever people there. You know, if anything's happening in the night sky, others are going to see it and be like, oh, I might have seen something too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't help that it seems like Linda's very interested in the popularity of this story. Because if this happened to you, you'd like kind of want to explore it, but kind of want

to like keep your voice down and be embarrassed about it. It sounds like she really wants to get to the bottom of it. The last thing I'll drop in is that just a little reminder that Bud never met Dan and Richard. Only Linda met Dan and Richard. Oh, for God's sakes. So,

moving into the... That's definitely worth bringing up. That's definitely worth bringing up. Yeah. I bet they were the United Nations

Secretary General bodyguards, though. Right. And they were in love with her. I think we're ready for conclusions. Really?

Yeah, for sure. That's exciting. Okay. So, we have taken you on a, as I promised, borderline Jason Bourne level exciting action rampage to the streets of New York City and to other galaxies with some pretty interesting claims and some good news claims and some good

news coverage and some other witnesses around the city. But at the end of every episode we have to decide whether this story is really paranormal. What do you think about the 1989 Brooklyn abduction? The Jason Bourne comparison is actually very accurate because

it is also a fictional story. My conclusion today is going to be a no. I think that's fair. I think I would have to come down and make two, as much as I do love the case. Whenever I first started researching this one, I thought it was

going to be a home run slam dunk double yes because you read about it from a very surface level and you hear like 24 witnesses, bodyguards, the UN Secretary General being present at the abduction. You're like, oh my God, this sounds like the UFO event of the century. Yeah.

Until you realize it is largely the experience of one woman and her account alone. So not enough here to come down on a double yes today, but we would love to know what you guys think of this one. Email in your thoughts to thisparanormallifepodcast at gmail.com or you should be able to see this on YouTube. We've got full length episodes of This Paranormal Life going up every week on YouTube. You can hop in the comments section, see what everyone else is saying. Yeah, absolutely. Another double no for the books,

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You know, gentrifying the neighborhood so you can come down to tatiana's and uh get yourself a kind of uh a flat white coffee along with a fresh barely cursed sword cursed but just to clarify if you so much just pick up one of these swords you will perish you will you parrot paris you might you might you know you run that risk of course but like you run a risk of dying if you just

go on a bicycle ride so like is it that different well how high are the odds of dying once I take one of these swords they are 100%

it's only a case of when really okay but that's life like you're gonna die anyway you are so is it

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solid gold yeses. Oh yeah. I can feel it. It's been a while. It's been a while. We've got to get one. And in the meantime remember to live fast

investigate and die young baby. a while. It's been a while. We've got to get one. And in the meantime, remember to live fast, investigate, and die young, baby!