This Paranormal Life - #350 Mysterious Orb Gives Town RADIATION POISONING

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

The small town of Newmill is known for a lot of things, but after a freak paranormal incident in September 1977, it was only known for ONE thing - a strange floating orb seen by dozens of witnesses in... the night sky. The orb was seemingly harmless, floating along the ground and through the treelines. However, days after it's appearance when the locals started falling ill, they realised that maybe this orb wasn't so harmless after all... Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do aliens watch sci-fi movies about humans invading? Did jelly come from another planet? If so, what planet did peanut butter come from? All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life! Hello everyone and welcome back to This Paranormal Life, your weekly comedy paranormal podcast where every week myself and Kit Griggles malvena investigate a brand new paranormal tale case claim or beast and come to a conclusion at the end as to whether or not that thing truly is paranormal unfortunately you've put a completely different train of thought in my head
Starting point is 00:00:38 thanks to your intro questions this episode is cancelled we're not talking about the paranormal anymore because you brought up peanut butter and jam what is the right ratio in a sandwich? 50-50 right? I was worried
Starting point is 00:00:54 you were going to say that prepare to taste my blade you truly couldn't be more wrong you see what are you talking about? alright everyone get a nice cup of coffee put on the kettle I've never considered what the ratio is you just butter one piece Surely couldn't be more wrong. You see... What are you talking about? All right, everyone get a nice cup of coffee.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Put on the kettle. I've never considered what the ratio is. You just butter one piece and butter the other piece. Well, you don't butter anything. You butter it with peanut. You butter it with peanut. That's what you do. Yeah, well, yeah, sure. To the untrained eye of a simpleton,
Starting point is 00:01:20 of course, you would just... I mean, it doesn't surprise me to hear that you just go caveman mode on two slices of bread. Jesus, you probably even used a heel of a loaf of bread as well, for all I know. But we won't get into all that. But no, obviously there's a ratio because there's a kind of flavor quotient that varies between peanut butter and jam. So whilst you might think you need equal quantities, actually jam is more potent of a flavor. So you actually need less jam than peanut butter
Starting point is 00:01:49 in order to get the right ratio. The perfect sandwich? Yeah. I'll counter that with it doesn't matter at all. How many peanut butter and jam sandwiches do you think you've eaten in your life? I haven't eaten a sandwich in two years. I don't eat sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:02:05 All right, Hollywood. You know the Atkins diet? Some kind of 2006 Atkins. Sandwiches is the least consumed form of food I eat in my entire life. You're speaking Caponese
Starting point is 00:02:17 right now because I've seen you eat a sandwich in the last, I would say, well, if it hadn't been Christmas recently, I would have said week, but probably last
Starting point is 00:02:25 two months name the sandwich name the sandwich mother f***er that's a lie f***ing that's what I thought no
Starting point is 00:02:33 no no no that's what I thought what how many burgers have I seen you eat burgers aren't sandwiches I'm throwing water around the floor
Starting point is 00:02:40 I'm getting animated burgers aren't sandwiches the funniest thing is you know it's a fresh year. We're back in the studio podcasting. We should be starting on a clean slate. Okay. You know, Kit and Rory at our default relationship,
Starting point is 00:02:53 which is mostly on the same team. I like how you have to qualify that. A relationship since childhood, which is fine at best. Which is unconfrontational at its peak. And then already, you came in swinging punches today, because you were only in the studio for about 45 minutes, and then you started making fun of how many keys I have on my keychain. All right, audience members, audience members.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Again, we're not going to get into it. So, I didn't deserve this. Before I reveal how many, before we do the key reveal, before we do the keychain reveal, just hold in your mind what you would imagine an appropriate amount of keys is on a keychain,
Starting point is 00:03:35 bearing in mind for a man who lives in a city, a walkable city, without a car, without a I feel like a cross-examining prosecuting lawyer. To be clear, Mr. Powers, without a bike as well. Is that correct? Yeah, but also consider how many keys someone would have to have
Starting point is 00:03:56 for his friend to comment to him, when do you lock up the jail tonight, warden? Implying I own a prison, I have that many keys. Five keys, three fobs. Three? There's not three fobs. One USB stick and a key chain. The only reason that it made it extra funny
Starting point is 00:04:19 is you were mocking me for how many keys I have and then Kit quickly proceeds to ask if he can borrow my keys because he didn't bring any of his on this trip. So he can't get into the office and he can't use the bathroom. Listen, for every Steve Jobs, there's a Wozniak. And I'm more of the ideas guy. I kind of swan around not owning keys because I've got a key guy.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And that's you. Was Wozniak the little green guy from Monsters Inc did I get that right no that's Mike Wazowski that's Wazowski no that's Steve Wozniak
Starting point is 00:04:54 they're both Steve confusingly alright I we're clearly going to cut that because it makes me look bad so hey glad to be here
Starting point is 00:05:04 for a fresh 2024 of new episodes. Yes, we have been talking about 2024 in the recent weeks, but actually you can tell by our appearance and our tone of voice that some of that stuff was taped before the new year, whereas we are sitting right now actually as fresh-faced men. Right. Are you fully committing to dry January?
Starting point is 00:05:24 You're not having a drink this entire month? I have a man. Right. Are you fully committing to dry January? You're not having a drink this entire month? I have a problem. Okay. And that problem is me thirsty. I thought doing dry January was not consuming a liquid
Starting point is 00:05:34 for 31 days like Jesus in the desert. I've got a problem. I'm addicted to tiny heinies and I don't mean tushes. And the problem is... He means Heinekens because he didn't
Starting point is 00:05:45 clarify after. They're only tiny if you drink one or two of them. The problem is you drink a case of 32 and suddenly... They're mighty heinies. You're not allowed. Suddenly you got a tiny amount of custody of your children. So if I proved to the judge I can make it 30 days clean into January, I might get to see my daughter again. Right. The punishment from the judge was tiny-timey with your daughter. It's the first case of parental supervision where he gets 45 seconds on the weekend to say everything he can.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And then she's taken back to her mother. But hey, one thing that isn't going to change is the fact that it is a Tuesday and we have a new paranormal case to investigate. This one today, Kit, is a doozy right off the back of a huge UFO investigation that we did last week. I'm excited to be bringing a case just as compelling and exciting this Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And divisive, maybe. Let's hope not. We're going to dive into today's episode right after a quick word from today's sponsors. And a reminder that you can get every episode of This Paranormal Life ad-free over on patreon.com forward slash thisparanormallife. Our story today begins in September 1977 in the small Cornish settlement of Newmill. Now, Newmill is a pretty normal place. It's tucked away in the English countryside and home to many historical features, such as old churches and chapels, stone circles.
Starting point is 00:07:18 But on this night, in September 1977, Newmill was going to become famous for a very different reason. A reason that can fly at 600 miles per second. And is from another f***ing galaxy. You made up that number. I don't know if anything can fly at 600 miles a second. That we know of. What's the speed of light? How many miles a second is that?
Starting point is 00:07:42 That's a good question. That's definitely faster. It is 186,000 miles per second is that that's a good question that's definitely faster it is 186 000 miles per second you're a liar what wait uh how much did you say 100 600 miles per second right yes so we are really breaking every rule of physics right out the gate look we're some we're dealing with something here that we don't know what it is. Something that is inconceivable to the human mind. How fast is the speed of love, Kit? I think the speed of love arguably might be a lot slower than this. Because I don't know, Rory, if you can relate to this.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I'm sure some of the listeners can. You know whenever you just wake up in a cold sweat one night realizing that eight years ago that person you were talking to was actually hitting on you right yeah real delayed reaction so sometimes the speed of love be quite slow hey rory for the record the speed of my love is approximately 35 seconds that's that's a pb all right all right hey sometimes the love the speed of love can be a little too quick and you have to think about baseballs to slow it down. Sometimes you need to buy special condoms that slow down the speed of love.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Hey, Rory, you don't have to try on this episode to get me chubbed up about the nature of physics. Because I just watched Oppenheimer. And yeah, sure, I'm a little late because I've got a child so I don't get to the cinema very often and I had to wait till it came on the Apple store so I could rent it for an exorbitant price but hey I'm a science guy now. Right after watching that movie you what they thought they were doing was inconceivable and unbelievable and unattainable and they pulled it off. I should say the complicated, gray, disturbing message of the movie did not go over my head.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I'm not saying Oppenheimer was sick. The guy, what I'm saying is, you know, the power of science was overwhelming and terrifying. Exactly. And that's what we're going to be dealing with today while I drop a bomb on our audience. Oh, no. Like a bombshell, like a revealing piece of information. That's what I'm saying. Our story today begins with a phone call to UFO investigator Terry Cox.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Hello. Is this Mr. Cox, the UFO investigator? It is, yes. How can I help? I think my wife and I may have seen something. What sort of something? It was some sort of orb. Green!
Starting point is 00:10:20 I don't know how to describe it, but we need help. We don't have long. What do you mean, you don't have long? Whatever this thing was, it's killing us. Terry Cox decided that this was worth a full investigation, so he headed to New Mill himself to speak with the couple who had claimed to witness some kind of strange orb floating in the night sky. Now being a paranormal investigator, he'd met a lot of people who would claim to have seen something like this before. But when he met Caroline Bond and Peter Bolton, he knew something was different. They were stressed, tired, and both looked like they'd recently fallen ill. As they sat down together at the couple's home, the story unraveled.
Starting point is 00:11:07 at the couple's home, the story unraveled. At around 9.30pm Saturday, September 17th, Caroline was heading to the front of her house, getting ready to fire up her moped for an evening drive. As she approached the vehicle, she got the feeling her husband Peter was following behind her. But when she turned, she realized it wasn't Peter. In fact, it wasn't a person at all. Caroline said that merely four meters in front of her, floating in the air, was this strange sort of green haze. She said it was flashing between green and silver and some sort of red. It was like gas, but she couldn't see through it. It also seemed to have an object protruding from the bottom as it hovered along the ground. This is quite a unique description of a paranormal object. Usually we hear all the cliches, the flying saucer shape, if it's a
Starting point is 00:12:00 creature, the nine foot greys or the little guys with the saucer eyes. But this explanation, a kind of flashing cloud of haze that she can't see through. Very strange, especially the fact that this is essentially just hovering on the ground. Yeah, the flashing is particularly strange, isn't it? Because if we're talking about a gas here, there are, of course, any number of explanations for what that could be. It could be any kind of gas leak, whatever. But a flashing green and silver cloud of gas? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Hey, I know the Pokemon franchise has gotten a bit fucked up. I don't know if even they have reached flashing clouds of gas yet. I think they did. It was Generation 1 and it was gasly. Okay. It was the first one uh luckily i know this is kind of hard to visualize uh in our heads i do have an artist's interpretation of the object that was seen that night i'm gonna send it to you right now kit wow no these artists aren't getting paid enough honestly because that is not a big prompt to go off. Yeah, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:13:06 It's not exactly getting mugged by a guy. I'm now looking at the image the artist was overpaid because that is a f***ing giant candy corn in the middle of a road. It looks like a pistachio, a giant pistachio nut. It's an unwrapped starburst that has been chewed up and spat out on a road. Yeah, it's hard to draw a cloud. I get it. Now it's worth noting that in the records of this
Starting point is 00:13:33 sighting, she really has a hard time properly describing what this thing looked like, despite approaching it to the point where it was only two meters away. At this point, Caroline thinks that she is tripping, so she does what anyone would do and calls her partner to come look before whatever this thing is makes a getaway. Peter hears her call and comes running, luckily making it in time. By now, this strange object is moving its way up the steps to a nearby barn before turning and hovering around it in circles. Caroline said that they both watched this strange object float about for two full minutes. They had so long with this thing that Peter even left at one point to go get his glasses to have a better look.
Starting point is 00:14:20 While he was gone, Caroline took this opportunity to see if she could even get more people to put their eyes on this thing. And luckily, around the corner, she found a couple using a nearby telephone kiosk. Hey, you guys! You wanna see something cool? The second couple came around the corner just as Peter returned with his glasses. And believe it or not, the orb was still there. Now it was floating above a set of nearby trees, flashing green, red, and silver. Both couples stared in disbelief
Starting point is 00:14:53 as they watched this otherworldly orb levitate above them. Interestingly, when Terry Cox asked Caroline, were you upset in any way by the experience? She said, No, I was quite interested in it. I wanted to go and look for it the next night. I was quite excited and told everyone else. It seemed like a kind of spaceship to me. When it was above the tree, it appeared a bit elongated, although it was oval when I first saw it in the yard.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I've never been interested in this sort of thing before but i am now well you didn't know it existed yet how could you be interested in it yeah it kind of goes without saying you know i was never really interested in floating green gas balls until one popped into my back garden i've been searching my local library for books on the subject and wouldn't you know it i couldn't find any. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, this is like if a thousand bumblebees turned up in my bedroom one morning.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You best start to believe I've got an interest in honey. Even if I didn't care about it at all, I'd be pretty interested in why a thousand bees are now in my bedroom. Right, you're gonna whether you like it or not, become a little bit of an expert on the subject of bees. Going to become a little bit of a beekeeper.
Starting point is 00:16:10 It's like, if you don't have a beekeeper's hat, find the next best thing, brother, because they're in your closet. Right. Like she, by necessity, has to become interested in UFOs because apparently her garden is a landing pad for the Intergalactic Federation. You know,
Starting point is 00:16:25 in a strange abstract way, the closest thing that this kind of sounds like is Aurora Borealis. Right. You know, Super Nintendo Chalmers voice and Aurora Borealis
Starting point is 00:16:38 located entirely inside the Cornish countryside. You know, but a kind of gaseous, multicoloured, changing, flashing phenomenon. Now, luckily, Terry didn't just have Caroline and Peter to talk to. The other couple that saw it that night were Bill and Sally Beard, a couple from Birmingham who were staying with a family nearby. Not only did Bill and Sally corroborate the claims, but the woman
Starting point is 00:17:06 that they were staying with, Mrs. Gibbons, also claimed to have seen the orb floating in the sky that night. And there was at least one more independent witness that evening. Because of the timing of the different sightings and the amount of witnesses, the belief is that there may have actually been more than one orb that night. Okay, I just want to drill down quickly on, you mentioned they saw it in the sky then, but of course our protagonist saw it as close as two meters away. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah, she saw it four meters away, then two meters away. This thing's coming at her. Then one meter away. Then it was in her blood. Yeah. No, if you recall, she said when Peter returned with his glasses, it was floating above the tree line by the barn. So this thing is capable of moving some distances.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But because of the different places it was sighted at different times, people have started to believe there may have been more than one orb, which is a theory that is backed up by the claims of witness George Stone, who said, I saw two orbs. Okay. So we have kind of JFK assassination style. We have a multiple orb theory.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Right. There was more than one shooter and we've mapped them out on this little map with pins. George Stone said he saw one near the ground and one hovering at the height that helicopters would usually fly. He said that the one in the sky stuck around for so long that he claimed that him and his sister watched it zigzag around the sky completely soundless until almost midnight. The next day, the strange green orbs were the talk of the town. Those who had seen it struggled to convince their neighbours that it had happened, or
Starting point is 00:18:54 even explain what the f*** it was. But luckily, they didn't need to try too hard, because the very next night, the orbs appeared again. Okay, so definitely more than one this time three okay they're three orbs sorry i'm getting excited i don't know why i get triggered anytime i seem like a damn spokesperson for the world your eyes went black there for a second just i don't know why the word orb is so exciting to say because it was a gas to begin with too yeah gaseous orbs is what they were specifically three of them you seem to have lost control over the pitch of your voice i
Starting point is 00:19:32 have gas pouring out my ears and it wasn't just the orbs that made an appearance on that same night september 18th civil servant anthony laity was driving home in the evening when he noticed something hovering just outside his window. He knew it wasn't a bird for two reasons. First, he was speeding down the road. There was no way a bird could match his pace. Also, it was metal, and the underside was glowing white. No one thought it was a bird no need to compare at all could it have been an orb well do you think sure it's completely different to the others though it it is it's you know the objects the other saw was described as this kind of glowing gas anthony's claiming this was much more like a craft, like an object
Starting point is 00:20:25 speeding alongside him. Yeah, I'm into this. I'm feeling it. We're all feeling good. Some crazy shit going on. Let's just always
Starting point is 00:20:33 Speed up. I agree. No, worry and slow down because sometimes what happens is the little game of telephone
Starting point is 00:20:41 takes place, especially back in the day with less media sources information sources that once word gets out of UFOs you have as we kind of talk about a kind of playground spread of information
Starting point is 00:20:54 where the not to attack Anthony here but the lonely little nerd child he's getting attacked by enough already so let's leave Anthony out of this the lonely little nerd who has no friends suddenly is like oh i saw two guys oh really yeah yeah boy this attention feels good yeah so what i saw it was exactly like what you guys saw right but even crazier that's like when i was in primary
Starting point is 00:21:18 school and all of my friends had watched james bond they were all obsessed with james bond and the james bond movies i was too embarrassed to tell them my parents wouldn't let me watch james had watched James Bond. They were all obsessed with James Bond and the James Bond movies. I was too embarrassed to tell them my parents wouldn't let me watch James Bond. Completely justified, by the way. I think that all those movies were 15, rated 15. So there were many conversations I participated in where I pretended like I had seen the movies,
Starting point is 00:21:41 not knowing anything about what James Bond was, didn't even know he was a spy or that it was anything to do with spies and shooting people and espionage. And I think it all came out when I drew a picture of him for everyone and I drew him as a fox. He got mixed up with Fantastic Mr. Fox.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I think they were like, yeah, that's kind of cool. Why is he a fox? And I was like, and then it immediately dawned on me that I had created a different James Bond in my head. You'd filled in a lot of gaps in your head. I love the idea as well of even if you had painted like quite a sensible picture of what James,
Starting point is 00:22:18 you're like, got it. He's English. He likes drinking martinis. By all accounts, he's well dressed likes a suit drives around fast cars always in the chicken coop good with the women
Starting point is 00:22:30 and shoots guns got it it's not hard to grasp is it but then one of the other kids at playground is like hell yeah
Starting point is 00:22:37 that was such a good movie the one with octopussy in it and you're like alright so hold on you're saying there's an octopus he fights off an octopus there's an octopus with human reproductive organs this is very strange and you're like okay yeah no his is of course yeah i've seen it when he fights
Starting point is 00:23:00 his arch nemesis octopus you're like oh is his arch nemesis is golden finger you're like what uh yeah i think i had recently as a child watched the robin hood movie where he is of course a fox oh yeah and uh taking from that i assumed they were talking about some other movie uh by the same production company where james bond was also a fox but i get what you're saying is um sometimes if if the talk of the town is ufos everyone wants to be part of the talk of the town so say that you saw a ufo not saying that happened no just saying we gotta keep our uh keep our minds and eyes open to such events i will say usually when people make up stories to become a part of the bigger story they slide in with kind of a subtle case you know being like oh i saw the gas too uh it was green
Starting point is 00:23:52 for you guys it was purple for me that's crazy that's crazy whereas anthony's just like they're they're outside i had to come in here because the only way I could get them off my back. He said that the faster he went, the faster the object followed, until eventually the light faded and it disappeared from view. Terry Cox couldn't believe what he was hearing. Not only were there orbs appearing for multiple nights, but they'd been seen by multiple witnesses all across New Mill. I've never heard of a case this convincing before. If only we had some physical evidence.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Peter stared back at Terry. Oh, we have the evidence. And you're looking right at it. Terry reveals he has a six-inch hole through his chest. He was shot by a laser cannon. Lips on his shirt. Jesus, man. How are you alive?
Starting point is 00:24:49 He keels over instantly. Look, I should say I have, yes, slightly dramatized the dialogue in this story, you know, for dramatic effect in the storytelling, but this is how it all shook down. Peter was telling the truth. He and his wife were both physical proof that the orbs had in fact visited because it was only a week later that the complications started.
Starting point is 00:25:15 We're about to find out what those complications are. Right after, a quick word from today's sponsors. All right, we are back. As we said, professional UFO investigator Terry Cox is sitting down with Peter and Caroline
Starting point is 00:25:31 trying to unravel the mystery of what happened that night. And it might be a little easier to unravel than we think because it seems like we have some physical evidence taking the form of physical
Starting point is 00:25:46 ailments. Oh no. It began with Peter. He fell so ill that he needed to be brought to the hospital. He was throwing up, suffering from muscle pains and headaches. Doctors did multiple tests but couldn't figure out what was wrong. I mean, it's a tough situation to be in if you are Peter, because one way for them to definitely think you belong in a hospital is to tell them about the orb. Yeah, yeah. You know, because usually doctors would be like, okay, look, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this. Have you eaten anything strange recently?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Have you had anything to drink? You usually don't drink. It could be an allergic reaction. Tell me about the last 24 hours. Well, you know, it was a pretty normal day. I did have a chicken salad instead of my, you know, turkey sandwich for lunch. Sir, we don't have a lot of time here. You're going to need to get to the point of what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:26:42 All right. Well, I'm just filling you in on all the food and the things that i had so i did you know the soda machine was out of diet dr pepper so i had to go for full sugar dr pepper could it be that that's a normal sugar is there anything else absolutely anything else which could have contributed to these symptoms well you know um i just want to guarantee that that that that is there sort of a patient doctor confidentiality type agreement here in the hospital with you know if I were to say anything
Starting point is 00:27:12 it stays within the walls right stays between you and me not really sir we have to train a lot of students so whatever you could say to me you could say to them as well oh yes I'm only noticing them now there's about 16 they're taking notes yes do they have to be here right now? I am naked.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But please ignore that. We have a couple of art students as well just doing a kind of nude sketch of you as well. Again, just students just doing their job. All right, well, if there was anything that was slightly out of the ordinary, you know, me and my wife did that evening. We saw an orb from another universe and um at some points it
Starting point is 00:27:48 was quite far away and at other points it was inside me so that might be why i have fallen ill students if you could leave the room all right guys we've got another pervert here a guy who's been putting weird stuff inside his body. No, no, no. I don't mean like that. Delete the sketches. Delete the sketches. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:10 See, this is back in the day when I would say today, if they had any kind of concerns about your sort of mental stability, the reason why you might have ended up in hospital, we have psychiatric wards and things like that for that. Protect you from yourself. Back then, it was called the loony bin right you get chucked in it and you might not get out again yeah giving them this explanation might get you out of this hospital but it's gonna get you into another hospital it's yeah basically revolving door you're going into the other one no it is
Starting point is 00:28:40 true it is hey this is the terrifying cold face of experiencing paranormal phenomenon firsthand is you are a frontline soldier and no one knows what its effects could be on you. Exactly. And that's why this story is kind of scary, because, as we said, Peter and Caroline, at one point, they were two or four meters away from this thing. at one point they were two or four meters away from this thing uh you know reading about this case it feels very similar to you know back in the days where people were using nuclear power and just completely oblivious to how damaging it was just to be in proximity to the source hey brother you're talking to the guy who just watched oppenheimer i mean i cannot hey brother you're talking to the guy who just watched Oppenheimer
Starting point is 00:29:24 I mean I cannot stress enough how much I'm basing my personality off of this movie I have to say there's a lot of parallels between the story
Starting point is 00:29:32 you're describing and maybe that's something we're dealing with here maybe there is radioactive stuff going on yeah that's why
Starting point is 00:29:41 if you see anything slightly out of this world you need to put on your lead vest. And put on your lead cup if you want to have kids in the future. To make matters worse, Caroline followed behind him. Her symptoms were so confusing that doctors initially thought that she had appendicitis and actually removed her appendix. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah. That was Jesus. Yeah. That was a pretty invasive guess. I know, right? Because it says after the surgery, they discovered that her appendix was perfectly healthy. That feels like someone jumping to conclusions and moving way too quick. Because if you can tell that it's healthy when it's out, how could you not tell it was healthy when it was in? When it's doing the job?
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah, you know, appendixes coming out, that really feels like something I thought was going to have more bearing on my adult life than it seemed to have during my childhood. Growing up, it seemed like
Starting point is 00:30:37 every appendix on Earth was a f***ing World War II grenade. No one knew if it was in commission or out of commission or whatever. But if you just like ate a Dorito wrong, it would poke your appendix and it would pop like a landmine. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Whereas today, I haven't talked to anyone with any appendix problems in a long time. It's also partly because of the way it's worded. You know, stuff with organs is so dramatic. You know, you get kidney failure, your appendix bursts. It sounds like they need to cut you open, grab the appendix, and, like, throw it into the air so everyone can duck down
Starting point is 00:31:18 and it's going to explode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's very, very dramatic. But I agree with you. I would have assumed appendix out, tonsils out. That was a big one as well. Get a tonsillitis. Tonsils, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Yeah. However, the word tonsils in years. It's crazy. Even when you get older, you know, you hear of people who have kidney stones. Yeah, I know you mean the language is quite serious. Like people don't talk about something failure like that often outside of kidney failure i mean my parents talk about son failure what is that oh right you yeah okay when you've got a child it's a failure which is equally as dramatic they call you appendix because they try to remove you from their lives
Starting point is 00:32:00 we tried to cut him out to cut him off hey i, I just, I'm so dumb. I just realized that's why they call it an appendix in a book, but which came first, an appendix in a book or a appendix in a body? I need to find this out right now. Yeah, me too. Okay. This is bullshit. I just Googled appendix and on the actual definition on the NHS website, it says, the appendix is connected to the large intestine where poo forms. Nobody knows exactly what it does. Man, sometimes you think humans are so advanced. A child wrote this.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Until you read that. A doctor didn't write that. Even using the word poo, a doctor should use that word. Right, surely it's not a doctor didn't write that that is even using the word poo a doctor should use that word right sure it was surely it's not feces um yeah that is someone who was they were clocking off for lunch in 30 seconds after they wrote that definition so what could be causing this what could be causing this health issues well the couple were both suffering from unexplained illnesses, sure, but those illnesses closely resembled, you guessed it, radiation poisoning. Okay. Kit, this is the buzzword that we look for when we're talking about any paranormal cases
Starting point is 00:33:19 that involve close encounters with UFOs. The big question always is if there was a craft or an object or an entity at any point in time, at any event, the evidence is in what is left behind. How did it affect the wildlife where it landed? How did it affect the people it came in contact with? You know, how did it infect the the environment and leave behind proof and evidence that it ever did exist in a physical form and radiation poisoning is unfortunately one of the common symptoms that we have with witnesses in ufo cases yeah and it's it's uh i always feel like it's worth pointing out that it's a very interesting one it's not definitive proof of anything. No. And there's no actual specific link for like,
Starting point is 00:34:10 oh, we know that UFOs run on nuclear energy. That's why it's there. We don't know anything like that. But the idea, I suppose, roughly, is that maybe this alien technology utilizes other elements that we would not be able to be around safely. Space juice. That even the aliens themselves, chemical composition is different. They are not carbon-based life forms. They are made of something else, silicon-based or whatever, and that they interact with other compounds
Starting point is 00:34:42 differently and maybe they are carrying radioactive materials. It's a stretch, but the point is radioactive material, it's a good calling card because whilst it is naturally occurring, it's rare in the concentrations that would cause illness. Obviously, the biggest similarity here as well is with a case that we investigated not too long ago, the Cash similarity here as well is with a case that we investigated not too long ago, the Cash Landrum UFO case, where two individuals claim to have spotted a diamond-shaped object come down,
Starting point is 00:35:16 blasting jet fumes from the bottom that kind of hit their car. And they actually ended up with kind of similar symptoms really bad radiation poisoning i think uh i think one or both of them ended up losing hair their skin was affected and that was a real physical interaction because i think even the car that they were in post-sighting became so hot they couldn't even touch it with their hands the dashboard melted it was really crazy stuff so obviously with our case we're not dealing we don't think with a craft it seems like well maybe we are it's somewhere in between craft and entity you know this little floating gas thing but it's obviously not as dramatic as a giant diamond coming down and
Starting point is 00:36:03 blasting you like a hairdryer one of the cool cool anecdotes, I think I've said on the podcast before, about understanding the world of the electromagnetic spectrum of which radiation is a part of. But also at another stage of the electromagnetic spectrum, visible light is a part of. And our eyes just happen to be tuned to see visible light i saw a cool comparison once that said that if you laid out the electromagnetic spectrum proportionally from new york city to los angeles as a straight line visible light the stuff we can see would be about two meters okay that distance the rest is like x-ray energy, gamma ray radiation. Right. Infrared, all the other elements of electromagnetic energy.
Starting point is 00:36:52 It is a strange and terrifying world out there of energies out in space. Right. And what we can see and what we can't see. You know, I was at the zoo the other day and they had an exhibit where you could see through the eyes of a snake. I hate these f***ing things, man. I've seen Instagram carousels that claim to be like, here's rat vision, mouse vision, dog vision, f***ing bread vision. And I'm like, you guys are making these up. Rat vision is me when I sneak out of my bed at night
Starting point is 00:37:30 to eat shredded cheese from the refrigerator. That's my rat vision. You know, it's always just like, yeah, it's either black and white or it's everything's red or like, yeah. Where did you see rat vision? Bro, I'm going to look up rat vision right now. Well, the reason I saw snake vision in this exhibit was because I believe they were trying to explain how snakes...
Starting point is 00:37:55 I don't know if this is true. This is just what they said at the zoo. Their vision is based purely or mostly on thermal. It's heat. Oh. So they were saying, you you know there was a big camera and you could like put your hand in front of the camera and they were like that's what you look like to a snake okay it's predator mode yeah luckily in the movie predator luckily the caption wasn't this is what you look like to a snake and it just transforms you into like a chicken wing they're gonna tear you apart
Starting point is 00:38:26 walking talking chicken drunk walking happy meal to these motherfuckers why did you have to make this an exhibit i know they're dangerous that's why they're behind the glass it's like why is there stink lines coming out of me? That's what they think. That's what they think of you. Like, this is what you look like to a snake. I step in front of it. On the screen, it just says, bitch. I'm like, why would he think that about me?
Starting point is 00:38:53 That's so mean. They can tell when a human is bitch made. It's just a fun little sense there. It's like, are you a scientist? Show me your credentials. It's just a guy who charges you 10 bucks for snake vision. But yes, this is what I'm saying. You know, as humans, we are limited to being able to perceive what our eyes can perceive.
Starting point is 00:39:14 It's a miracle that these two could even perceive the gas itself. I mean, that tells us something about what they saw. Okay, not to get too deep down this rabbit hole. Let's do it. Let's get in the snake hole. But that always trips me out, yeah, is like, you ever see those cool, like Hubble Space Telescope images
Starting point is 00:39:32 of galaxies and things like that? Hell yeah. You know, and they're very cool, very badass. And they're totally now what we have come to know as space photography, that we think if we went
Starting point is 00:39:44 interstellar mode, flew out as an astronaut into space, that's what we have come to know as space photography, that we think if we went interstellar mode, flew out as an astronaut into space, that's what we would see is those galaxies like we've seen them. I can't actually remember about Hubble specifically, but it blew my mind when I found out, I was a little disappointed to be quite honest, when I found out that many of those images are composite images. And again, like I say, that electromagnetic spectrum,
Starting point is 00:40:06 they've fudged together. They took an infrared camera, they took a visible light camera, they took a gamma ray camera, all this shit, and they've put all these images together because they can all see different elements of a galaxy or a star. And then they kind of mush them all together and they color correct it and make it look cool. And it's the idea is it's like, yeah, well, it's all all there you just might not be able to see it all with your naked eye and right
Starting point is 00:40:29 that's an important thing to remember that just because we've evolved to see things on earth the way we do out there in space it might be different rules man yeah you know it might be that we're you're seeing this this orb this gaseous thing, but that's just because the visible light spectrum that's coming off of it is what you can see. Who knows? Flip on an X-ray vision, it might look like something else. Put on your snake goggles. Just bitch.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Captain Bitch changes your NASA uniform to Captain Bitch. Come on, guys. Yeah, I mean, it's so true. I mean, you probably would be disappointed if you took a rocket ship out, you know, into the vast corners of the universe and looked out the window. It's black. Yeah. It's black and maybe a couple of stars in the distance.
Starting point is 00:41:23 You're probably not going to see this kaleidoscope of colors and galaxies. So it is a little bit disappointing. It's like when I found out, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't partially or at least at one point partially the rings of Saturn because of the duration of the photograph that needed to be taken to get enough light to capture the film? Like blurred, blurs the rings. Oh. I think so. I think I read that. That's why it looks like a beautiful line.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Yeah. Like a kind of milky line. Oh, that's really interesting. That sounds believable. Yeah. I think it's referred to in photography as bulb photos, I believe, where you take really, really long shutter speeds to enable the camera to capture as much light as possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:08 So if you're ever doing like nighttime photography, you can change your bulb speed to six seconds to capture it all. And that's how you get these beautiful shots of the night sky. But of course, if you change that time to like three hours to capture the photo, that's why you get the blurred lines the light trails because it's been capturing the light for all of that time it takes yeah what are the rings it's just rocks i think they're just rocks yeah orbiting comets but are so localized that it does create a ring that's crazy that there's a planet that's like a hoarder right
Starting point is 00:42:42 took it all just collects rocks that's nuts i i like to think that it's you know the one that is loved the most and that's why they put a ring on a ring on it exactly they liked it so they went and put a ring on it um whereas the others are just completely naked there's so many there's so many little like loopholes like scientists would be like oh well actually uranus has rings, but they're invisible. Bro, four planets have rings. Yeah, this is what I'm saying. What?
Starting point is 00:43:10 Saturn isn't special at all. It's like, sorry, if they're invisible, it doesn't have rings. Right. Come back to me with snake vision and tell me how many rings it has. Huh?
Starting point is 00:43:20 Jupiter. Wait, they're in. What do you mean they're invisible? You read the article. You tell me. Why don't I know that Jupiter you tell me why don't I know that Jupiter has rings why don't I know that
Starting point is 00:43:28 is it like you say it's like these planets whether they're married or not it's like Jupiter has a ring but she doesn't wear it when she works out yeah yeah she weirdly takes it off
Starting point is 00:43:40 when she's on holiday so let's go on there red flag if you ask me but don't imagine jupiter and uranus have been slowly orbiting towards each other over the past millennia
Starting point is 00:43:49 it's a little suspicious because it goes against the gravitational pulls of the universe this is sus jupiter saturn uranus and neptune all have rings saturn has the largest ring system which i guess makes it the most perceivable in photographs of the planet it was not until the 1970s that rings were discovered around the other gas planets so maybe they were even so thin or imperceivable
Starting point is 00:44:15 photography from telescopes wasn't able to pick them up here's a conversation that y'all ain't actually ready for you mean to tell me that Pluto isn't a planet because it's too small when we're counting all these planets that are just gas that's not a real planet i'm sorry
Starting point is 00:44:31 that is not a real planet what do you mean they're gas i can't stand on them they're in ghosts what you just said it the gas giants jupiter saturn uranus nept. These are all gas planets. They're not solid. Talking about. You should have learned this in primary school. What do you mean they're not? They're made of gas. What do you mean they're made of gas? There's not enough tape in this fucking Zoom recorder
Starting point is 00:44:58 to capture the amount of information it needs to follow. You're telling me someone vaped a f***ing planet and that counts? Yeah. I can, if I said one small step for man, I'd go through it and come out the other side? How does that work? Well, I think if we're getting into it,
Starting point is 00:45:15 I think they're so, I mean, take Jupiter, for example, so hot and fiery and corrosive, you would, of course, melt if you set foot. But they are gas. They're not solid. They're not rock planets. It's only insane because I know of the gas planets.
Starting point is 00:45:31 That's a normal sentence I've heard of. At no point did I think that meant for some reason the planet was made of gas. Are we definitely sure? Is a planet made of gas? I just assumed it was every child every child in the world or something you know and understands like when when super mario goes into the toxic world and he can only breathe for so long i assumed it was like cloudy or something you thought it was gas this the way irish people say gas is fun yeah. I hate how patronizing they are in the response.
Starting point is 00:46:07 The BBC says you couldn't stand on the surface of the planet because it's not solid. Dummy. That's crazy. That is crazy. But hey, if anything, maybe ties in more to this episode than we think because what our witnesses saw today was gas.
Starting point is 00:46:26 It seemed to be perceivable to the human eye. You're like, f*** me, we know where they're from then. It's just fast-tracked this into a double yes. It came from the gas planet. We're people and everything's glass. Gas! Unfortunately, despite these very close encounters uh multiple witnesses there is really very little explanation as to what these things are where they came from or why they appeared yeah they these aren't exactly aliens waving around a probe or trying nachos for the first time with any obvious motive yeah you can
Starting point is 00:47:08 barely see the f**kers yeah and this was on a small enough scale really that it never even warranted a response by any kind of government or military officials so we don't even have the joy of listening to them claim that it was a weather balloon or a military test. Hey, there's something kind of cool about that. At some point you get jaded to the cookie cutter UFO experiences. Kind of cool to have something which just is weird. Yeah, it is weird. People talked about it, but it wasn't big enough or crazy enough that it needed to be covered nationally. Yes. Which is also, unfortunately, one of the cons of this case as well.
Starting point is 00:47:46 You know, when I was looking for evidence for this case, you know, it's fun to read about these stories on the internet, but ultimately, if you're going to host them and talk about them on this podcast, you need to be able to back it up with some hard facts, some hard truths. There are multiple newspapers
Starting point is 00:48:02 from the time that reported on this incident had quotes from the UFO investigator and the witnesses. So it's all there. There are the claims that this took place in national newspapers. But aside from that and that small amount of coverage, this case doesn't go anywhere. There were no more investigations done. I couldn't even find really any official recordings of medical records from this quote unquote radiation poisoning. Most of the talk was them just falling ill allegedly after the case. within the hour. The next day it was who won the annual sheep shearing competition?
Starting point is 00:48:46 The clotted cream shortage of 1976. It was a hectic year. Yeah, you'd think a story like this should be enough in Cornwall to have its own newspaper. And it's just weekly updates about what's going on,
Starting point is 00:49:00 which unfortunately is not the case. So while we do have a lot of testimonies today for some good reliable witnesses and an investigation by an actual ufo expert outside of that this case has a very short shelf life but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen and as you know at the end of every episode we do have to come down on our conclusions as to whether or not we think
Starting point is 00:49:27 that this really happened so Kit it's a strange one today but what are you thinking? This is a strange one one of the strangest we've probably covered in recent memory
Starting point is 00:49:40 Like gas? You know I think you kind of sold me on this being a bit of a UFO case we were getting into at the beginning or before we started recording. So, you know, I was primed to start just ticking boxes in my head, playing
Starting point is 00:49:52 TPL UFO bingo. Drink when you see a f***ing saucer. Drink when you see a grey with bulbous eyes. That is not what we got. We got something pretty much completely unique. something which i tend to think always makes it feel a little bit more believable when it's original when it's
Starting point is 00:50:10 different when it doesn't line up with other experiences and yet at the same time we've got next to no physical evidence really no physical evidence some half decent uh witnesses and corroborating pieces of evidence um well it's hard to have evidence when your creature is gaseous. I don't disagree. It literally disappears in front of you. It's not a problem I thought I was ever going to have, to be honest. It's having to investigate a gas being. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Even after doing the atmospheric beasts. What about you, Rory? Yeah, you know, this is not dissimilar from kind of creatures or objects we've seen in the past, as you said, atmospheric beasts. But also one of your favorite UFO encounters that we've ever covered, which I think opened your eyes to the world of the paranormal when it comes to aliens. The creatures in that story were smoke. Huh? What's the one that you love with the smoke man um you must be referring to the aerial school ufo encounter of zimbabwe in 1994 okay i knew that's why i didn't want to mention the
Starting point is 00:51:15 name specifically it's like a trigger word smoke wasn't exactly the words used by the witnesses on the day but i get what you're saying i think it was yeah so yes what you're saying is they did exhibit some strange movement patterns these beings and they were kind of vague objects yeah i think they were probably substantially more humanoid but yes they were extremely strange and they they were kind of described as moving in like you described in this one a bit of a zigzag hazy pattern as if they were i think they were described as moving in, like you described in this one, a bit of a zigzag, hazy pattern. I think they were described as moving in slow motion, but incredibly fast. Right. Which doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:51:53 It doesn't really, but I think that's the world we exist in. It doesn't make any sense. And, you know, it's safe to say we've covered enough stories on this podcast before, it's safe to say we've covered enough stories on this podcast before where it's a little naive to think that the only
Starting point is 00:52:07 guys upstairs are nine foot and grey and look like the aliens from a Steven Spielberg movie yeah some of them are a
Starting point is 00:52:15 f***ing cloud yeah some of them are a thought in your mind some of them are the smell of purple it doesn't make any sense but hey no more dilly-dallying no
Starting point is 00:52:28 more putting it off kit it's time to come down on a conclusion what are you going to say about today's case it's gonna be a no but i think you understand why i didn't realize i had my snake goggles on because you're looking like a bitch to me brother alright alright alright well you know you threw around a no last week and that pretty much
Starting point is 00:52:50 tore the commune apart so I think you know I think you could understand a conscientious objection things are so
Starting point is 00:52:56 getting so heated in this studio right now a snake would be blinded it's like a flashbang going off that's how hot
Starting point is 00:53:03 it's getting in here hey call me oppenheimer i am become no destroyer of rory's cases uh look unfortunately for me this week it's also going to be a no okay just because i love this case and this story and these creatures doesn't mean it's enough to push it over the edge for me and and truly commit to saying that this event did happen and is paranormal. Unfortunately, there's just not enough evidence right at the finish line to push us over. But hey, what a great case.
Starting point is 00:53:31 The New Mill Green Blob. Hey, let me tell you, this is the quintessential case. Some cases, right, we investigate, we've got our dossier in front of us, and then when we come down the double no, we tear it up and eat some of it or throw it out the window because it's f***ing trash. This one, this is where we, Indiana Jones style, carefully put it in the vault, keep it on ice because the next time a blob of gas shows up,
Starting point is 00:53:59 flashing green and silver, we're going to need to go back to this, study the differences and figure out what's going on. Because this is just a too little information. Like this is one of those cases where 30 years from now, using new DNA technology, we bust the murderer from 30 years ago. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:16 We, you know, put this in a folder, stick it in the X files. Yeah. You know, and then 20 years later, when someone says, did you hear about that alien sighting down in Florida?
Starting point is 00:54:30 It's like, yeah, people said that they saw some kind of strange red and green flashing gas. Yeah, violins start ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Mother of God.
Starting point is 00:54:42 What a case. Thank you so much, everyone, for listening. i hope you enjoyed it kit even though it was a double no uh we are yet to achieve a double yes this year but what are we two weeks in three weeks in barely in at all which which means we have so much more time this year to finally chase down those double yeses. For sure. The problem is I know what's coming next week. All right. You can skip that one, guys,
Starting point is 00:55:09 if you're really holding out for that double yes. The alien next week is a cloud. It is a cloud that was spotted at cloud height. Not that weird, really. We've talked a lot on this episode about snake vision but if you want to see this podcast with human vision you can head on over to youtube or on instagram twitter where we upload clips from the show we actually upload the entire video podcast over on youtube so if that sounds good to you head on over there there. You can watch the whole podcast there. It's a ton of fun. And if you already are starting the new year and you're caught up with all of the This Paranormal Life episodes and the backlog, don't worry. You don't that are available to you for a very small amount of
Starting point is 00:56:06 money every month. We have a ton of bonus episodes which are released every month. And we also have the after party, which is a bonus Friday episode where we talk about the behind the scenes, all the additional info that we weren't able to include in the cases, some of our own paranormal experiences. able to include in the cases some of our own paranormal experiences um i mean that being said the last one was just me kit and phil getting drunk and answering uh community questions that we did a call out for over on patreon everyone kind of prefers that honestly yeah we were like so you want to hear about because i actually saw a green orb one time and then someone goes all right question from craig here marry kill cryptid edition and then people crack beers uh it's a ton of fun and it's uh it's a great way to kind of get involved with the community and find out a little bit more about
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Starting point is 00:58:40 We use Takran. I actually think it sounds like a bootleg arcade machine called Takran. actually think it sounds like a bootleg arcade machine called Takran where the KGB are really just monitoring you through a webcam in the machine
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Starting point is 00:59:29 forward slash this paranormal life all right kit it's time for us to say goodbye and start the research on next week's investigation which you have guaranteed me and the audience is going to be a double yes did i i think you were pretty confident about it, right? So we need to give them, because we don't want them to miss it, you know? Right. We don't want them to miss it. I can promise that it's more physical than gas.
Starting point is 01:00:00 All right. Okay. That sounds pretty good to me. It doesn't mean it's real. That sounds pretty... That means we can touch it. Okay. That sounds pretty good to me. It doesn't mean it's real. That sounds pretty. It means we can touch it. Right. So you're going to want to tune in next week and listen to that double yes.
Starting point is 01:00:12 We will see you then, folks. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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