This Paranormal Life - #350 Mysterious Orb Gives Town RADIATION POISONING
Episode Date: January 16, 2024The small town of Newmill is known for a lot of things, but after a freak paranormal incident in September 1977, it was only known for ONE thing - a strange floating orb seen by dozens of witnesses in... the night sky. The orb was seemingly harmless, floating along the ground and through the treelines. However, days after it's appearance when the locals started falling ill, they realised that maybe this orb wasn't so harmless after all... Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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If so, what planet did peanut butter come from?
All of these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life!
Hello everyone and welcome back to This Paranormal Life, your weekly comedy paranormal podcast
where every week myself and Kit Griggles malvena investigate a brand new
paranormal tale case claim or beast and come to a conclusion at the end as to whether or not that
thing truly is paranormal unfortunately you've put a completely different train of thought in my head
thanks to your intro questions this episode is cancelled we're not talking about the paranormal anymore because you brought up
peanut butter
and jam
what is the right ratio
in a sandwich?
50-50
right?
I was worried
you were going to say that
prepare to taste my blade
you truly couldn't be more wrong
you see
what are you talking about?
alright everyone
get a nice cup of coffee
put on the kettle I've never considered what the ratio is you just butter one piece Surely couldn't be more wrong. You see... What are you talking about? All right, everyone get a nice cup of coffee.
Put on the kettle.
I've never considered what the ratio is.
You just butter one piece and butter the other piece. Well, you don't butter anything.
You butter it with peanut.
You butter it with peanut.
That's what you do.
Yeah, well, yeah, sure.
To the untrained eye of a simpleton,
of course, you would just...
I mean, it doesn't surprise me to hear
that you just go caveman mode on two slices of bread.
Jesus, you probably even used a heel of a loaf of bread as well, for all I know.
But we won't get into all that.
But no, obviously there's a ratio because there's a kind of flavor quotient that varies between peanut butter and jam.
So whilst you might think you need equal quantities, actually jam is more potent of a flavor.
So you actually need less jam than peanut butter
in order to get the right ratio.
The perfect sandwich?
Yeah.
I'll counter that with it doesn't matter at all.
How many peanut butter and jam sandwiches
do you think you've eaten in your life?
I haven't eaten a sandwich in two years.
I don't eat sandwiches.
All right, Hollywood.
You know the Atkins diet?
Some kind of 2006 Atkins.
Sandwiches
is the least consumed
form of food
I eat in my entire life.
You're speaking Caponese
right now
because I've seen you
eat a sandwich in the last,
I would say,
well, if it hadn't been
Christmas recently,
I would have said week,
but probably last
two months
name the sandwich
name the sandwich
mother f***er
that's a lie
f***ing
that's what I thought
no
no no no
that's what I thought
what
how many burgers
have I seen you eat
burgers aren't sandwiches
I'm throwing water
around the floor
I'm getting animated
burgers aren't sandwiches
the funniest thing is
you know it's a fresh year.
We're back in the studio podcasting.
We should be starting on a clean slate.
Okay.
You know, Kit and Rory at our default relationship,
which is mostly on the same team.
I like how you have to qualify that.
A relationship since childhood, which is fine at best.
Which is unconfrontational at its peak.
And then already, you came in swinging punches today,
because you were only in the studio for about 45 minutes,
and then you started making fun of how many keys I have on my keychain.
All right, audience members, audience members.
Again, we're not going to get into it.
So, I didn't deserve this.
Before I reveal how many,
before we do the key reveal,
before we do the keychain reveal,
just hold in your mind what you would
imagine an appropriate amount of keys
is on a keychain,
bearing in mind for a
man who lives in a city,
a walkable city, without
a car, without a
I feel like a cross-examining prosecuting lawyer.
To be clear, Mr. Powers, without a bike as well.
Is that correct?
Yeah, but also consider how many keys someone would have to have
for his friend to comment to him,
when do you lock up the jail tonight, warden?
Implying I own a prison, I have that many keys.
Five keys, three fobs.
Three?
There's not three fobs.
One USB stick and a key chain.
The only reason that it made it extra funny
is you were mocking me for how many keys I have
and then Kit quickly proceeds to ask
if he can borrow my keys
because he didn't bring any of his on this trip.
So he can't get into the office and he can't use the bathroom.
Listen, for every Steve Jobs, there's a Wozniak.
And I'm more of the ideas guy.
I kind of swan around not owning keys because I've got a key guy.
And that's you.
Was Wozniak
the little green guy
from Monsters Inc
did I get that right
no that's Mike Wazowski
that's Wazowski
no that's Steve Wozniak
they're both Steve
confusingly
alright
I
we're clearly going to cut that
because it makes me look bad
so
hey glad to be here
for a fresh
2024 of new episodes.
Yes, we have been talking about 2024 in the recent weeks,
but actually you can tell by our appearance
and our tone of voice
that some of that stuff was taped before the new year,
whereas we are sitting right now actually as fresh-faced men.
Right. Are you fully committing to dry January?
You're not having a drink this entire month? I have a man. Right. Are you fully committing to dry January? You're not having a drink
this entire month?
I have a problem.
Okay.
And that problem is
me thirsty.
I thought doing dry January
was not consuming a liquid
for 31 days
like Jesus in the desert.
I've got a problem.
I'm addicted to tiny heinies
and I don't mean tushes.
And the problem is...
He means Heinekens
because he didn't
clarify after. They're only tiny if you drink one or two of them. The problem is you drink a case
of 32 and suddenly... They're mighty heinies. You're not allowed. Suddenly you got a tiny amount of
custody of your children. So if I proved to the judge I can make it 30 days clean into January,
I might get to see my daughter again.
Right.
The punishment from the judge was tiny-timey with your daughter.
It's the first case of parental supervision where he gets 45 seconds on the weekend
to say everything he can.
And then she's taken back to her mother.
But hey, one thing that isn't going to change is the fact that it is a Tuesday
and we have a new paranormal case to investigate.
This one today, Kit, is a doozy
right off the back of a huge UFO investigation
that we did last week.
I'm excited to be bringing a case
just as compelling and exciting this Tuesday.
And divisive, maybe.
Let's hope not.
We're going to dive into today's episode right after a quick word from today's sponsors.
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Our story today begins in September 1977 in the small Cornish settlement of Newmill.
Now, Newmill is a pretty normal place.
It's tucked away in the English countryside and home to many historical features,
such as old churches and chapels, stone circles.
But on this night, in September 1977, Newmill was going to become famous for a very different reason.
A reason that can fly at 600 miles per second.
And is from another f***ing galaxy.
You made up that number.
I don't know if anything can fly at 600 miles a second.
That we know of.
What's the speed of light?
How many miles a second is that?
That's a good question.
That's definitely faster.
It is 186,000 miles per second is that that's a good question that's definitely faster it is 186 000 miles per second you're a liar what wait uh how much did you say 100 600
miles per second right yes so we are really breaking every rule of physics right out the
gate look we're some we're dealing with something here that we don't know what it is. Something that is inconceivable to the human mind.
How fast is the speed of love, Kit?
I think the speed of love arguably might be a lot slower than this.
Because I don't know, Rory, if you can relate to this.
I'm sure some of the listeners can.
You know whenever you just wake up in a cold sweat one night realizing that eight years ago that person you were talking to was
actually hitting on you right yeah real delayed reaction so sometimes the speed of love be quite
slow hey rory for the record the speed of my love is approximately 35 seconds that's that's a pb
all right all right hey sometimes the love the speed of love can be a little too quick
and you have to think about baseballs to slow it down.
Sometimes you need to buy special condoms
that slow down the speed of love.
Hey, Rory, you don't have to try on this episode
to get me chubbed up about the nature of physics.
Because I just watched Oppenheimer.
And yeah, sure, I'm a little late
because I've got a
child so I don't get to the cinema very often and I had to wait till it came on the Apple store
so I could rent it for an exorbitant price but hey I'm a science guy now. Right after watching
that movie you what they thought they were doing was inconceivable and unbelievable and unattainable and they pulled it off. I should say the complicated, gray, disturbing message of the movie did not go over my head.
I'm not saying Oppenheimer was sick. The guy, what I'm saying is, you know, the power of science
was overwhelming and terrifying. Exactly. And that's what we're going to be dealing with today while I drop a bomb on our audience.
Oh, no.
Like a bombshell,
like a revealing piece of information.
That's what I'm saying.
Our story today begins with a phone call
to UFO investigator Terry Cox.
Hello.
Is this Mr. Cox,
the UFO investigator?
It is, yes.
How can I help?
I think my wife and I may have seen something.
What sort of something?
It was some sort of orb. Green!
I don't know how to describe it, but we need help. We don't have long.
What do you mean, you don't have long?
Whatever this thing was, it's killing us. Terry Cox decided that this was worth a full investigation, so he headed to New Mill himself to speak with the couple who had claimed to witness some kind of strange orb floating
in the night sky.
Now being a paranormal investigator, he'd met a lot of people who would claim to have seen something like this before.
But when he met Caroline Bond and Peter Bolton, he knew something was different.
They were stressed, tired, and both looked like they'd recently fallen ill.
As they sat down together at the couple's home, the story unraveled.
at the couple's home, the story unraveled. At around 9.30pm Saturday, September 17th,
Caroline was heading to the front of her house, getting ready to fire up her moped for an evening drive. As she approached the vehicle, she got the feeling her husband Peter was following behind her.
But when she turned, she realized it wasn't Peter. In fact, it wasn't a person at all. Caroline said that
merely four meters in front of her, floating in the air, was this strange sort of green haze.
She said it was flashing between green and silver and some sort of red. It was like gas, but she
couldn't see through it. It also seemed to have an object
protruding from the bottom as it hovered along the ground. This is quite a unique description
of a paranormal object. Usually we hear all the cliches, the flying saucer shape, if it's a
creature, the nine foot greys or the little guys with the saucer eyes.
But this explanation, a kind of flashing cloud of haze that she can't see through.
Very strange, especially the fact that this is essentially just hovering on the ground.
Yeah, the flashing is particularly strange, isn't it?
Because if we're talking about a gas here, there are, of course, any number of explanations for what that could be.
It could be any kind of gas leak, whatever.
But a flashing green and silver cloud of gas?
Yeah.
Hey, I know the Pokemon franchise has gotten a bit fucked up.
I don't know if even they have reached flashing clouds of gas yet.
I think they did.
It was Generation 1 and it was gasly.
Okay. It was the first one uh luckily i know this is kind of hard to visualize uh in our heads i do have an artist's interpretation of the object that was seen that night i'm gonna send it to
you right now kit wow no these artists aren't getting paid enough honestly because that is not
a big prompt to go off.
Yeah, it's hard.
It's not exactly getting mugged by a guy.
I'm now looking at the image the artist was overpaid
because that is a f***ing giant candy corn
in the middle of a road.
It looks like a pistachio, a giant pistachio nut.
It's an unwrapped starburst
that has been chewed up and spat out on a road.
Yeah, it's hard to draw a cloud. I get it. Now it's worth noting that in the records of this
sighting, she really has a hard time properly describing what this thing looked like, despite
approaching it to the point where it was only two meters away. At this point, Caroline thinks that she is tripping, so she
does what anyone would do and calls her partner to come look before whatever this thing is makes
a getaway. Peter hears her call and comes running, luckily making it in time. By now,
this strange object is moving its way up the steps to a nearby barn before turning and hovering around it in circles.
Caroline said that they both watched this strange object float about for two full minutes.
They had so long with this thing that Peter even left at one point to go get his glasses
to have a better look.
While he was gone, Caroline took this opportunity to see if she could even get more people to put their eyes on this thing.
And luckily, around the corner, she found a couple using a nearby telephone kiosk.
Hey, you guys! You wanna see something cool?
The second couple came around the corner just as Peter returned with his glasses.
And believe it or not, the orb was still there.
Now it was floating above a set of nearby trees,
flashing green, red, and silver.
Both couples stared in disbelief
as they watched this otherworldly orb levitate above them.
Interestingly, when Terry Cox asked Caroline,
were you upset in any way by the experience?
She said, No, I was quite interested in it.
I wanted to go and look for it the next night.
I was quite excited and told everyone else.
It seemed like a kind of spaceship to me.
When it was above the tree, it appeared a bit elongated, although it was oval when I first saw it in the yard.
I've never been interested in this
sort of thing before but i am now well you didn't know it existed yet how could you be interested
in it yeah it kind of goes without saying you know i was never really interested in floating green
gas balls until one popped into my back garden i've been searching my local library for books
on the subject and wouldn't you know it i couldn't find any. Yeah, no shit.
Yeah, this is like if a
thousand bumblebees turned up
in my bedroom one morning.
You best start to believe I've got an interest
in honey. Even if
I didn't care about it at all, I'd be pretty
interested in why a thousand bees
are now in my bedroom. Right, you're gonna
whether you like it or not, become a
little bit of an expert on the subject of bees.
Going to become a little bit of a beekeeper.
It's like, if you don't have a beekeeper's hat,
find the next best thing, brother,
because they're in your closet.
Right.
Like she, by necessity, has to become interested in UFOs
because apparently her garden is a landing pad
for the Intergalactic Federation.
You know,
in a strange abstract way,
the closest thing
that this kind of sounds like
is Aurora Borealis.
Right.
You know,
Super Nintendo Chalmers voice
and Aurora Borealis
located entirely inside
the Cornish countryside.
You know,
but a kind of gaseous, multicoloured, changing, flashing phenomenon.
Now, luckily, Terry didn't just have Caroline and Peter to talk to.
The other couple that saw it that night were Bill and Sally Beard,
a couple from Birmingham who were staying with a family nearby.
Not only did Bill and Sally corroborate the claims, but the woman
that they were staying with, Mrs. Gibbons, also claimed to have seen the orb floating in the sky
that night. And there was at least one more independent witness that evening. Because of
the timing of the different sightings and the amount of witnesses, the belief is that there may have actually been more than one orb that night.
Okay, I just want to drill down quickly on,
you mentioned they saw it in the sky then,
but of course our protagonist
saw it as close as two meters away.
Yes.
Yeah, she saw it four meters away,
then two meters away.
This thing's coming at her.
Then one meter away.
Then it was in her blood.
Yeah.
No, if you recall, she said when Peter returned with his glasses, it was floating above the tree line by the barn.
So this thing is capable of moving some distances.
But because of the different places it was sighted at different times, people have started to believe there may have been more than one orb,
which is a theory that is backed up
by the claims of witness George Stone,
who said,
I saw two orbs.
Okay.
So we have kind of JFK assassination style.
We have a multiple orb theory.
Right.
There was more than one shooter
and we've mapped them out
on this little map with pins.
George Stone said he saw one near the ground and one hovering at the height that helicopters would usually fly.
He said that the one in the sky stuck around for so long that he claimed that him and his sister watched it zigzag around the sky completely soundless until almost midnight.
The next day, the strange green orbs were the talk of the town.
Those who had seen it struggled to convince their neighbours that it had happened, or
even explain what the f*** it was.
But luckily, they didn't need to try too hard, because the very next night, the orbs
appeared again.
Okay, so definitely more than one this time
three okay they're three orbs sorry i'm getting excited i don't know why i get triggered anytime
i seem like a damn spokesperson for the world your eyes went black there for a second
just i don't know why the word orb is so exciting to say because it was a gas to begin with too yeah gaseous orbs is what
they were specifically three of them you seem to have lost control over the pitch of your voice i
have gas pouring out my ears and it wasn't just the orbs that made an appearance on that same night
september 18th civil servant anthony laity was driving home in the evening when he noticed
something hovering just outside his window. He knew it wasn't a bird for two reasons. First,
he was speeding down the road. There was no way a bird could match his pace. Also, it was metal,
and the underside was glowing white. No one thought it was a bird no need to compare at all
could it have been an orb well do you think sure it's completely different to the others though
it it is it's you know the objects the other saw was described as this kind of glowing gas
anthony's claiming this was much more like a craft, like an object
speeding alongside him.
Yeah,
I'm into this.
I'm feeling it.
We're all feeling good.
Some crazy shit going on.
Let's just
always
Speed up.
I agree.
No,
worry
and slow down
because sometimes
what happens is
the little game of telephone
takes place,
especially back in the day
with less
media sources information
sources that once word
gets out of UFOs you have
as we kind of talk about a kind of
playground spread of information
where the
not to attack Anthony here but the lonely
little nerd child
he's getting attacked by enough already
so let's leave Anthony out of this
the lonely little nerd who has no friends
suddenly is like oh i saw two guys oh really yeah yeah boy this attention feels good yeah so what i
saw it was exactly like what you guys saw right but even crazier that's like when i was in primary
school and all of my friends had watched james bond they were all obsessed with james bond and
the james bond movies i was too embarrassed to tell them my parents wouldn't let me watch james had watched James Bond. They were all obsessed with James Bond and the James Bond movies.
I was too embarrassed to tell them
my parents wouldn't let me watch James Bond.
Completely justified, by the way.
I think that all those movies were 15, rated 15.
So there were many conversations I participated in
where I pretended like I had seen the movies,
not knowing anything about what James Bond was,
didn't even know he was a spy
or that it was anything to do with spies
and shooting people and espionage.
And I think it all came out
when I drew a picture of him for everyone
and I drew him as a fox.
He got mixed up with Fantastic Mr. Fox.
I think they were like,
yeah, that's kind of cool.
Why is he a fox?
And I was like, and then it immediately dawned on me
that I had created a different James Bond in my head.
You'd filled in a lot of gaps in your head.
I love the idea as well of even if you had painted
like quite a sensible picture of what James,
you're like, got it.
He's English.
He likes drinking martinis.
By all accounts, he's well dressed
likes a suit
drives around fast cars
always in the chicken coop
good with the women
and shoots guns
got it
it's not hard to grasp
is it
but then one of the other
kids at playground
is like
hell yeah
that was such a good movie
the one with octopussy in it
and you're like
alright
so hold on
you're saying there's an octopus he fights off
an octopus there's an octopus with human reproductive organs this is very strange
and you're like okay yeah no his is of course yeah i've seen it when he fights
his arch nemesis octopus you're like oh is his arch nemesis is golden
finger you're like what uh yeah i think i had recently as a child watched the robin hood movie
where he is of course a fox oh yeah and uh taking from that i assumed they were talking about some
other movie uh by the same production company where james bond was also a fox but i get what you're
saying is um sometimes if if the talk of the town is ufos everyone wants to be part of the talk of
the town so say that you saw a ufo not saying that happened no just saying we gotta keep our uh keep
our minds and eyes open to such events i will say usually when people make up stories to become a part of the bigger story
they slide in with kind of a subtle case you know being like oh i saw the gas too uh it was green
for you guys it was purple for me that's crazy that's crazy whereas anthony's just like they're
they're outside i had to come in here because the only way I could get them off my back. He said that the faster he went, the faster the object followed,
until eventually the light faded and it disappeared from view.
Terry Cox couldn't believe what he was hearing.
Not only were there orbs appearing for multiple nights,
but they'd been seen by multiple witnesses all across New Mill.
I've never heard of a case this convincing before.
If only we had some physical evidence.
Peter stared back at Terry.
Oh, we have the evidence.
And you're looking right at it.
Terry reveals he has a six-inch hole through his chest.
He was shot by a laser cannon.
Lips on his shirt.
Jesus, man.
How are you alive?
He keels over instantly.
Look, I should say I have, yes,
slightly dramatized the dialogue in this story,
you know, for dramatic effect in the storytelling,
but this is how it all shook down.
Peter was telling the truth.
He and his wife were both physical proof that the orbs had in fact visited
because it was only a week later that the complications started.
We're about to find out what those complications are.
Right after, a quick word from today's sponsors.
All right, we are back.
As we said,
professional UFO investigator
Terry Cox
is sitting down
with Peter and Caroline
trying to unravel
the mystery of what happened
that night.
And it might be a little easier
to unravel than we think
because it seems like
we have some physical evidence
taking the form of physical
ailments. Oh no. It began with Peter. He fell so ill that he needed to be brought to the hospital.
He was throwing up, suffering from muscle pains and headaches. Doctors did multiple tests but
couldn't figure out what was wrong.
I mean, it's a tough situation to be in if you are Peter,
because one way for them to definitely think you belong in a hospital is to tell them about the orb.
Yeah, yeah. You know, because usually doctors would be like,
okay, look, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this.
Have you eaten anything strange recently?
Have you had anything to drink?
You usually don't drink.
It could be an allergic reaction.
Tell me about the last 24 hours.
Well, you know, it was a pretty normal day.
I did have a chicken salad instead of my, you know, turkey sandwich for lunch.
Sir, we don't have a lot of time here.
You're going to need to get to the point of what you're saying.
All right.
Well, I'm just filling you in on all the food and the things that i had so i did you know the soda
machine was out of diet dr pepper so i had to go for full sugar dr pepper could it be that that's a
normal sugar is there anything else absolutely anything else which could have contributed to
these symptoms well you know um i just want to guarantee that that that that is there sort of a
patient doctor confidentiality
type agreement here in the hospital with
you know if I were to say anything
it stays within the walls right stays between you and me
not really sir we have to train a lot of students
so whatever you could say to me you could say to them as well
oh yes I'm only
noticing them now there's about 16
they're taking notes yes do they have to be here
right now?
I am naked.
But please ignore that.
We have a couple of art students as well
just doing a kind of nude sketch of you as well.
Again, just students just doing their job.
All right, well, if there was anything
that was slightly out of the ordinary,
you know, me and my wife did that evening.
We saw an orb from another universe and um at some points it
was quite far away and at other points it was inside me so that might be why i have fallen ill
students if you could leave the room all right guys we've got another pervert
here a guy who's been putting weird stuff inside his body.
No, no, no.
I don't mean like that.
Delete the sketches.
Delete the sketches.
Yes.
See, this is back in the day when I would say today,
if they had any kind of concerns about your sort of mental stability,
the reason why you might have ended up in hospital,
we have psychiatric wards and things like that for that.
Protect you from yourself.
Back then, it was called the loony bin right you get chucked in it and you might not get out again
yeah giving them this explanation might get you out of this hospital but it's gonna get you into
another hospital it's yeah basically revolving door you're going into the other one no it is
true it is hey this is the terrifying cold face of experiencing paranormal phenomenon firsthand is you are a frontline soldier and no one knows what its effects could be on you.
Exactly. And that's why this story is kind of scary, because, as we said, Peter and Caroline, at one point, they were two or four meters away from this thing.
at one point they were two or four meters away from this thing uh you know reading about this case it feels very similar to you know back in the days where people were using nuclear power
and just completely oblivious to how damaging it was just to be in proximity to the source
hey brother you're talking to the guy who just watched oppenheimer i mean i cannot
hey brother you're talking to the guy
who just watched
Oppenheimer
I mean I cannot
stress enough
how much I'm basing
my personality
off of this movie
I have to say
there's a lot of parallels
between the story
you're describing
and maybe that's something
we're dealing with here
maybe there is
radioactive
stuff going on
yeah
that's why
if you see anything
slightly
out of this world
you need to put on your lead vest.
And put on your lead cup if you want to have kids in the future.
To make matters worse, Caroline followed behind him.
Her symptoms were so confusing that doctors initially thought that she had appendicitis and actually removed her appendix.
Oh, Jesus.
Yeah. That was Jesus. Yeah.
That was a pretty invasive guess.
I know, right?
Because it says after the surgery, they discovered that her appendix was perfectly healthy.
That feels like someone jumping to conclusions and moving way too quick.
Because if you can tell that it's healthy when it's out,
how could you not tell it was healthy when it was in?
When it's doing the job?
Yeah, you know,
appendixes coming out,
that really feels like something
I thought was going to have
more bearing on my adult life
than it seemed to have
during my childhood.
Growing up, it seemed like
every appendix on Earth
was a f***ing World War II grenade.
No one knew if it was in commission
or out of commission or whatever.
But if you just like ate a Dorito wrong,
it would poke your appendix
and it would pop like a landmine.
Right.
Whereas today,
I haven't talked to anyone
with any appendix problems in a long time.
It's also partly because of the way it's worded.
You know, stuff with organs is so dramatic.
You know, you get kidney failure, your appendix bursts.
It sounds like they need to cut you open, grab the appendix,
and, like, throw it into the air so everyone can duck down
and it's going to explode.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, it's very, very dramatic.
But I agree with you.
I would have assumed appendix out, tonsils out.
That was a big one as well.
Get a tonsillitis.
Tonsils, yeah.
Yeah.
However, the word tonsils in years.
It's crazy.
Even when you get older, you know, you hear of people who have kidney stones.
Yeah, I know you mean the language is quite serious.
Like people don't talk about something failure like that often outside of kidney failure i mean my parents talk
about son failure what is that oh right you yeah okay when you've got a child it's a failure
which is equally as dramatic they call you appendix because they try to remove you from their lives
we tried to cut him out to cut him off hey i, I just, I'm so dumb. I just realized that's
why they call it an appendix in a book, but which came first, an appendix in a book or a
appendix in a body? I need to find this out right now. Yeah, me too. Okay. This is bullshit. I just
Googled appendix and on the actual definition on the NHS website, it says,
the appendix is connected to the large intestine where poo forms.
Nobody knows exactly what it does.
Man, sometimes you think humans are so advanced.
A child wrote this.
Until you read that.
A doctor didn't write that.
Even using the word poo, a doctor should use that word. Right, surely it's not a doctor didn't write that that is even using the word poo a doctor should
use that word right sure it was surely it's not feces um yeah that is someone who was they were
clocking off for lunch in 30 seconds after they wrote that definition so what could be causing
this what could be causing this health issues well the couple were both suffering from unexplained illnesses, sure,
but those illnesses closely resembled, you guessed it, radiation poisoning.
Okay. Kit, this is the buzzword that we look for when we're talking about any paranormal cases
that involve close encounters with UFOs. The big question always is if there was a craft
or an object or an entity at any point in time, at any event, the evidence is in
what is left behind. How did it affect the wildlife where it landed? How did it
affect the people it came in contact with? You know, how did it infect the
the environment and leave behind proof and evidence
that it ever did exist in a physical form and radiation poisoning is unfortunately one of the
common symptoms that we have with witnesses in ufo cases yeah and it's it's uh i always feel like
it's worth pointing out that it's a very interesting one it's not definitive proof of anything. No. And there's no actual specific link for like,
oh, we know that UFOs run on nuclear energy.
That's why it's there.
We don't know anything like that.
But the idea, I suppose, roughly,
is that maybe this alien technology utilizes other elements that we
would not be able to be around safely. Space juice. That even the aliens themselves,
chemical composition is different. They are not carbon-based life forms. They are made of
something else, silicon-based or whatever, and that they interact with other compounds
differently and maybe they are carrying radioactive materials.
It's a stretch, but the point is radioactive material,
it's a good calling card because whilst it is naturally occurring,
it's rare in the concentrations that would cause illness.
Obviously, the biggest similarity here as well is with a case that we investigated
not too long ago, the Cash similarity here as well is with a case that we investigated not too long ago,
the Cash Landrum UFO case,
where two individuals claim to have spotted a diamond-shaped object come down,
blasting jet fumes from the bottom that kind of hit their car.
And they actually ended up with kind of similar symptoms
really bad radiation poisoning i think uh i think one or both of them ended up losing hair
their skin was affected and that was a real physical interaction because i think even the
car that they were in post-sighting became so hot they couldn't even touch it with their hands the dashboard melted
it was really crazy stuff so obviously with our case we're not dealing we don't think with a craft
it seems like well maybe we are it's somewhere in between craft and entity you know this little
floating gas thing but it's obviously not as dramatic as a giant diamond coming down and
blasting you like a hairdryer one of the cool cool anecdotes, I think I've said on the podcast before, about understanding the world of the electromagnetic spectrum of which radiation is a part of.
But also at another stage of the electromagnetic spectrum, visible light is a part of.
And our eyes just happen to be tuned to see visible light i saw a cool comparison once that
said that if you laid out the electromagnetic spectrum proportionally from new york city to
los angeles as a straight line visible light the stuff we can see would be about two meters
okay that distance the rest is like x-ray energy, gamma ray radiation.
Right.
Infrared, all the other elements of electromagnetic energy.
It is a strange and terrifying world out there of energies out in space.
Right.
And what we can see and what we can't see.
You know, I was at the zoo the other day and they had an exhibit where you could see through the eyes of a snake.
I hate these f***ing things, man.
I've seen Instagram carousels that claim to be like, here's rat vision, mouse vision, dog vision, f***ing bread vision.
And I'm like, you guys are making these up.
Rat vision is me when I sneak out of my bed at night
to eat shredded cheese from the refrigerator.
That's my rat vision.
You know, it's always just like, yeah, it's either black and white
or it's everything's red or like, yeah.
Where did you see rat vision?
Bro, I'm going to look up rat vision right now.
Well, the reason I saw snake vision in this exhibit
was because I believe they were trying to explain how snakes...
I don't know if this is true.
This is just what they said at the zoo.
Their vision is based purely or mostly on thermal.
It's heat.
Oh.
So they were saying, you you know there was a big camera and you could like put your hand in front of the camera and they were like that's what you look
like to a snake okay it's predator mode yeah luckily in the movie predator luckily the caption
wasn't this is what you look like to a snake and it just transforms you into like a chicken wing they're gonna tear you apart
walking talking chicken drunk walking happy meal to these motherfuckers
why did you have to make this an exhibit i know they're dangerous that's why they're behind the
glass it's like why is there stink lines coming out of me? That's what they think.
That's what they think of you.
Like, this is what you look like to a snake.
I step in front of it.
On the screen, it just says, bitch.
I'm like, why would he think that about me?
That's so mean.
They can tell when a human is bitch made.
It's just a fun little sense there.
It's like, are you a scientist?
Show me your credentials.
It's just a guy who charges you 10 bucks for snake vision.
But yes, this is what I'm saying.
You know, as humans, we are limited to being able to perceive what our eyes can perceive.
It's a miracle that these two could even perceive the gas itself.
I mean, that tells us something about what they saw.
Okay, not to get too deep down this rabbit hole.
Let's do it.
Let's get in the snake hole.
But that always trips me out, yeah,
is like, you ever see those cool,
like Hubble Space Telescope images
of galaxies and things like that?
Hell yeah.
You know, and they're very cool,
very badass.
And they're totally now
what we have come to know
as space photography,
that we think if we went
interstellar mode, flew out as an astronaut into space, that's what we have come to know as space photography, that we think if we went interstellar mode,
flew out as an astronaut into space,
that's what we would see is those galaxies like we've seen them.
I can't actually remember about Hubble specifically,
but it blew my mind when I found out,
I was a little disappointed to be quite honest,
when I found out that many of those images are composite images.
And again, like I say, that electromagnetic spectrum,
they've fudged together.
They took an infrared camera, they took a visible light camera,
they took a gamma ray camera, all this shit,
and they've put all these images together
because they can all see different elements of a galaxy or a star.
And then they kind of mush them all together
and they color correct it and make it look cool.
And it's the idea is it's like, yeah, well, it's all all there you just might not be able to see it all with your naked eye and right
that's an important thing to remember that just because we've evolved to see things on earth the
way we do out there in space it might be different rules man yeah you know it might be that we're
you're seeing this this orb this gaseous thing, but that's just because the visible light spectrum
that's coming off of it is what you can see.
Who knows?
Flip on an X-ray vision, it might look like something else.
Put on your snake goggles.
Just bitch.
Captain Bitch changes your NASA uniform to Captain Bitch.
Come on, guys.
Yeah, I mean, it's so true.
I mean, you probably would be disappointed if you took a rocket ship out, you know,
into the vast corners of the universe and looked out the window.
It's black.
Yeah.
It's black and maybe a couple of stars in the distance.
You're probably not going to see this kaleidoscope of colors and galaxies.
So it is a little bit disappointing.
It's like when I found out, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't partially or at least at one point partially the rings of Saturn because of the duration of the photograph that needed to be taken to get enough light to capture the film?
Like blurred, blurs the rings.
Oh.
I think so.
I think I read that.
That's why it looks like a beautiful line.
Yeah.
Like a kind of milky line.
Oh, that's really interesting.
That sounds believable.
Yeah.
I think it's referred to in photography as bulb photos, I believe, where you take really,
really long shutter speeds to enable the camera to capture as much light as possible.
Yeah.
So if you're ever doing like nighttime photography,
you can change your bulb speed to six seconds to capture it all.
And that's how you get these beautiful shots of the night sky.
But of course, if you change that time to like three hours to capture the photo,
that's why you get the blurred
lines the light trails because it's been capturing the light for all of that time it takes yeah what
are the rings it's just rocks i think they're just rocks yeah orbiting comets but are so localized
that it does create a ring that's crazy that there's a planet that's like a hoarder right
took it all just collects rocks that's nuts i i like to
think that it's you know the one that is loved the most and that's why they put a ring on a ring on
it exactly they liked it so they went and put a ring on it um whereas the others are just completely
naked there's so many there's so many little like loopholes like scientists would be like oh well
actually uranus has rings, but they're invisible.
Bro, four planets have rings.
Yeah, this is what I'm saying.
What?
Saturn isn't special at all.
It's like, sorry,
if they're invisible,
it doesn't have rings.
Right.
Come back to me with snake vision
and tell me how many rings it has.
Huh?
Jupiter.
Wait, they're in.
What do you mean they're invisible?
You read the article.
You tell me.
Why don't I know that Jupiter you tell me why don't I know
that Jupiter has rings
why don't I know that
is it like you say
it's like these planets
whether they're married or not
it's like Jupiter has a ring
but she doesn't wear it
when she works out
yeah yeah
she weirdly takes it off
when she's on holiday
so
let's go on there
red flag
if you ask me
but
don't imagine
jupiter and uranus have been slowly orbiting towards each other over the past millennia
it's a little suspicious because it goes against the gravitational pulls of the universe this is
sus jupiter saturn uranus and neptune all have rings saturn has the largest ring system which
i guess makes it the most perceivable in photographs of the planet
it was not until the 1970s
that rings were discovered
around the other gas planets
so maybe they were even so thin
or imperceivable
photography from telescopes
wasn't able to pick them up
here's a conversation
that y'all ain't actually ready for
you mean to tell me
that Pluto isn't a planet
because it's too small
when we're counting all these planets that are just gas that's not a real planet i'm sorry
that is not a real planet what do you mean they're gas i can't stand on them they're in ghosts what
you just said it the gas giants jupiter saturn uranus nept. These are all gas planets. They're not solid.
Talking about.
You should have learned this in primary school.
What do you mean they're not?
They're made of gas.
What do you mean they're made of gas?
There's not enough tape in this fucking Zoom recorder
to capture the amount of information it needs to follow.
You're telling me someone vaped a f***ing planet
and that counts?
Yeah.
I can, if I said one small step for man,
I'd go through it and come out the other side?
How does that work?
Well, I think if we're getting into it,
I think they're so,
I mean, take Jupiter, for example,
so hot and fiery and corrosive,
you would, of course, melt if you set foot.
But they are gas.
They're not solid.
They're not rock planets.
It's only insane because I know of the gas planets.
That's a normal sentence I've heard of.
At no point did I think that meant for some reason the planet was made of gas.
Are we definitely sure?
Is a planet made of gas?
I just assumed it was every child every child
in the world or something you know and understands like when when super mario goes into the toxic
world and he can only breathe for so long i assumed it was like cloudy or something you
thought it was gas this the way irish people say gas is fun yeah. I hate how patronizing they are in the response.
The BBC says you couldn't stand on the surface of the planet
because it's not solid.
Dummy.
That's crazy.
That is crazy.
But hey, if anything,
maybe ties in more to this episode than we think
because what our witnesses saw today was gas.
It seemed to be perceivable to the human eye.
You're like, f*** me, we know where they're from then.
It's just fast-tracked this into a double yes.
It came from the gas planet.
We're people and everything's glass. Gas!
Unfortunately, despite these very close encounters uh multiple witnesses there is really very little
explanation as to what these things are where they came from or why they appeared yeah they
these aren't exactly aliens waving around a probe or trying nachos for the first time with any obvious motive yeah you can
barely see the f**kers yeah and this was on a small enough scale really that it never even warranted
a response by any kind of government or military officials so we don't even have the joy of
listening to them claim that it was a weather balloon or a military test. Hey, there's something kind of cool about that. At some point you get jaded to the cookie cutter
UFO experiences. Kind of cool to have something which just is weird.
Yeah, it is weird. People talked about it, but it wasn't big enough or crazy enough
that it needed to be covered nationally.
Yes.
Which is also, unfortunately, one of the cons of this case as well.
You know, when I was looking for evidence for this case,
you know, it's fun to read about these stories
on the internet, but ultimately,
if you're going to host them
and talk about them on this podcast,
you need to be able to back it up
with some hard facts, some hard truths.
There are multiple newspapers
from the time that reported on this incident
had quotes from the UFO investigator
and the witnesses. So it's all there. There are the claims that this took place in national
newspapers. But aside from that and that small amount of coverage, this case doesn't go anywhere.
There were no more investigations done. I couldn't even find really any official recordings of medical records from this quote unquote radiation poisoning. Most of the talk was them just falling ill allegedly after the case.
within the hour.
The next day it was who won the annual
sheep shearing competition?
The clotted cream
shortage of 1976.
It was a hectic year.
Yeah, you'd think a story like this
should be enough in Cornwall
to have its own newspaper.
And it's just weekly updates
about what's going on,
which unfortunately is not the case.
So while we do have
a lot of testimonies today for
some good reliable witnesses and an investigation by an actual ufo expert outside of that this case
has a very short shelf life but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen and as you know at the end
of every episode we do have to come down on our conclusions
as to whether or not
we think
that this really happened
so Kit
it's a strange one today
but what are you thinking?
This is a strange one
one of the strangest
we've probably covered
in recent memory
Like gas?
You know I think you kind of
sold me on this being
a bit of a UFO case
we were getting into at the beginning
or before we started recording.
So, you know, I was primed
to start just ticking boxes in my head, playing
TPL UFO bingo.
Drink when you see a
f***ing saucer. Drink when you see
a grey with bulbous
eyes. That is not what we
got. We got something pretty much completely
unique. something which i
tend to think always makes it feel a little bit more believable when it's original when it's
different when it doesn't line up with other experiences and yet at the same time we've got
next to no physical evidence really no physical evidence some half decent uh witnesses and
corroborating pieces of evidence um well it's hard to have evidence when your creature is gaseous.
I don't disagree.
It literally disappears in front of you.
It's not a problem I thought I was ever going to have, to be honest.
It's having to investigate a gas being.
Right.
Even after doing the atmospheric beasts.
What about you, Rory?
Yeah, you know, this is not dissimilar from kind of creatures or objects we've seen in the past, as you said, atmospheric beasts.
But also one of your favorite UFO encounters that we've ever covered, which I think opened your eyes to the world of the paranormal when it comes to aliens.
The creatures in that story were smoke.
Huh?
What's the one that you love with the smoke man um you must be referring to the aerial
school ufo encounter of zimbabwe in 1994 okay i knew that's why i didn't want to mention the
name specifically it's like a trigger word smoke wasn't exactly the words used by the witnesses
on the day but i get what you're saying i think it was yeah so yes what you're saying is they did exhibit some strange movement patterns these beings and they were kind
of vague objects yeah i think they were probably substantially more humanoid but yes they were
extremely strange and they they were kind of described as moving in like you described in
this one a bit of a zigzag hazy pattern as if they were i think they were described as moving in, like you described in this one, a bit of a zigzag, hazy pattern.
I think they were described as moving in slow motion, but incredibly fast.
Right.
Which doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't really, but I think that's the world we exist in.
It doesn't make any sense.
And, you know, it's safe to say we've covered enough stories on this podcast before,
it's safe to say we've covered enough
stories on this podcast
before
where it's a little naive
to think that the only
guys upstairs
are
nine foot
and grey
and look like the aliens
from a Steven Spielberg movie
yeah
some of them are a
f***ing cloud
yeah
some of them are a thought
in your mind
some of them are the
smell of purple
it doesn't make any sense
but hey no more dilly-dallying no
more putting it off kit it's time to come down on a conclusion what are you going to say about
today's case it's gonna be a no but i think you understand why i didn't realize i had my snake
goggles on because you're looking like a bitch to me brother alright alright
alright
well you know
you threw around
a no last week
and that pretty much
tore the commune apart
so I think
you know
I think you could
understand
a conscientious
objection
things are so
getting so heated
in this studio
right now
a snake would be
blinded
it's like a
flashbang going off
that's how hot
it's getting in here
hey call me oppenheimer
i am become no destroyer of rory's cases uh look unfortunately for me this week it's also going to
be a no okay just because i love this case and this story and these creatures doesn't mean it's
enough to push it over the edge for me and and truly commit to saying that this event did happen
and is paranormal.
Unfortunately, there's just not enough evidence right at the finish line to push us over.
But hey, what a great case.
The New Mill Green Blob.
Hey, let me tell you, this is the quintessential case.
Some cases, right, we investigate, we've got our dossier in front of us,
and then when we come down the double no, we tear it up and eat some of it or throw it out the window
because it's f***ing trash.
This one, this is where we, Indiana Jones style,
carefully put it in the vault, keep it on ice
because the next time a blob of gas shows up,
flashing green and silver,
we're going to need to go back to this,
study the differences and figure out what's going on.
Because this is just a too little information.
Like this is one of those cases where 30 years from now,
using new DNA technology,
we bust the murderer from 30 years ago.
Exactly.
We, you know, put this in a folder,
stick it in the X files.
Yeah.
You know, and then 20 years later,
when someone says,
did you hear about
that alien sighting
down in Florida?
It's like, yeah,
people said that they saw
some kind of strange
red and green
flashing gas.
Yeah, violins start
ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Mother of God.
What a case.
Thank you so much,
everyone, for listening. i hope you enjoyed it
kit even though it was a double no uh we are yet to achieve a double yes this year but what are we
two weeks in three weeks in barely in at all which which means we have so much more time
this year to finally chase down those double yeses. For sure. The problem is I know what's coming next week.
All right.
You can skip that one, guys,
if you're really holding out for that double yes.
The alien next week is a cloud.
It is a cloud that was spotted at cloud height.
Not that weird, really.
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research on next week's investigation which you have guaranteed me and the audience is going to be
a double yes did i i think you were pretty confident about it, right?
So we need to give them,
because we don't want them to miss it, you know?
Right.
We don't want them to miss it.
I can promise that it's more physical than gas.
All right.
Okay.
That sounds pretty good to me.
It doesn't mean it's real.
That sounds pretty... That means we can touch it. Okay. That sounds pretty good to me. It doesn't mean it's real. That sounds pretty.
It means we can touch it.
Right.
So you're going to want to tune in next week and listen to that double yes.
We will see you then, folks.
Bye-bye.
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