This Past Weekend - E366 Ryan Williams

Episode Date: November 11, 2021

Ryan Williams is a professional scooter and BMX rider from Australia. Theo talks with Ryan about joining Nitro Circus, progressing action sports, and winning X-Games gold. Ryan Williams IG: https://www.instagram.com/rwillyofficial New Merch: http://theovonstore.com New Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour Podcastville mugs and digital prints available now at https://theovon.pixels.com Support our Sponsors: The Zebra: http://thezebra.com/THEO Betterhelp: https://betterhelp.com/theo for 10% OFF your First Month Manscaped: http://manscaped.com/THEO for 20% off and free shipping BlockFi: http://blockfi.com/THEO get a bonus of $25 in crypto after you make your first purchase CrowdHealth: http://joincrowdhealth.com/fit and enter code THEO at sign up to get your first month free Liquid Death:: https://liquiddeath.com Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to [e-mail]. Hit the Hotline [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://bit.ly/TPW_VideoHotline Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend  Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: http://https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Producer: Spencer https://instagram.com/adventuresofspencer  Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And TPW listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com. Today's episode is brought to you by LiquidDeath. Today's guest is a valiant man, valiant young man. He's from Australia, if you believe in that. And he is a world-class gold medalist in scooter games and in BMX bicycling. This man has done things and you and I could never fathom doing. Even our dreams, we can't do the things that this man does in actuality. He's a member of the Nitro Circus. He's won countless gold medals.

He's from Australia and we are so happy to have him here today. Mr. Ryan Williams. All right, mate. How you feeling, man? I feel good. Did you have a good time? I'm sitting here with Ryan Williams, who was a real cyclist, I guess. A real astronaut, cyclist, almost ex-gamer.

I guess you would say professional BMX rider and professional scooter rider. Action sports athlete. I try to do it all. You do? Yeah. Action sports, when people say action sports, that encompasses what? Anything that's slightly dangerous and considered a sport. Okay.

I would say so. Yeah. And I saw you last night. We went to the comedy show. Yeah, yeah. Did you have a good time? Yeah, it was so good. And I was like, I don't know, I've only been to the comedy store like before that.

Yeah. And then, so this was like the second time going somewhere in Hollywood. Nice, man. Yeah. So yeah, you guys, yeah, that was such a surprise, dude. So do you go to a place, so you live in Australia, right? Yeah, yeah. And is there a comedy place you go to there, yeah?

No, I've actually never seen a comedy show in Australia. Wow. Yeah. I'm living here in Huntington Beach, but usually Sunshine Coast in a shot. And you've been to Australia, right? Yeah, I've been to Australia, man. I really like Australia. You know, I like a lot of, I like how it all started with the inmates and everything putting

all like the seedy people over there. Yeah, yeah. I love seedy people. And so I think I love that about it, you know, just seeing the children and grandchildren of seedy people and just seeing like the, you know, all the unique animals. It feels almost like a, it feels almost like a, like a secret location kind of, you know? Yeah. Or it seems like a, like a practice facility for humanity and mother nature.

It feels like a training ground for like humans and mother nature. That's what I feel like. Just to see how it like mixes, I feel like it helps. It must be like in the blood because I feel like a lot of us have like a few screws loose like why you see us in action sports, like just sending it. Yeah. Oh, there's a different level. Yeah.

Australians have a different thing inside of them. And I don't know if it's a science. Do they know if it's a scientific thing you think? Like if it's like a, maybe generational, I don't know. I wonder if there's like that rebellious thing because, because Australia started because I think they were inmates from England. They put them there, right? Yeah.

Yeah. So there was like convicts and they shipped them over because there was like, they're like, oh, we want to free up some space here. So send them off to the mainland. A little, we need a little more bandwidth over here at the prison. So we're going to send, we're going to send a couple, a couple of bad boys over there. Yeah. Yeah, dude.

I love Australia, man. I had a great time. So how do you, so, so your world is mostly like, take me through how you kind of got started, man. Cause I know you and I just met on IG. I was in like, I love all your like tricks and it seemed so extreme and like I get nervous being at like high speeds and stuff. So when I see somebody like you, I'm like, damn, this guy, you know, he's really able

to level up like in this, you know, this guy seems like a real, like a, you know, just like a real energy drink of a kind of guy, you know, I felt like. Yeah. I don't know. I guess it started like where the action sports started was I watched the X games and I like, there was a movie called the ultimate X and it had like guys like Travis Pastrana, Tony Hawk and like, I seen that. And I think all I had at the time were like roleblades because my mom took me to the roller

drone. You know, so I was like, I want to go to the skate park now. What do I have? Rollerblades. So I just like went to the skate park of my roleblades and fell in my butt like 500 times and then pretty much from then on, I was just like the skate park rat, you know, skate park kid. And so at skate parks over there, are people doing drugs and stuff or is it mostly just

skating? Um, you could probably find drugs at the skate park, but I like, there's certain skate parks like the skate park I mainly go to, it's got a fence around it. So you don't just go chill there and do drugs. You kind of like pay to go in and you're not going to pay twice to do drugs. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.

Yeah. Yeah. You do your drugs and then you go in there. I mean, yeah, you want to save that money, I think and just do your drugs outside probably. Yeah. Um, so when you started, like, did you find that you were good at in the beginning? Because sometimes I wonder how much of a, um, to be like an extreme sports person, yeah, how much like, how much like, um, is it in you?

And then how much is it that you can learn? Like, I've always felt like something like that is not in me, dude, like, you know, I'll even like, even, you know, sometimes people, like when the car stops real fast, people put their hand over the person, I will make people put their hand over me, even if we're just kind of cruising alone. Yeah. I guess, um, I would say, I guess it is built in a little bit. Like you kind of have to be a little bit wild because you've got to get over the hill.

You know, you're going to crash. You are going to crash. There's like no way not to really, if you want to push that, that upper level. But I guess it is something you can definitely learn. Like, obviously I started, I started just for fun and I was just like, all my homies were like down the skate park and then that's why I jumped on a scooter. Cause I was like the only role play kid, just all like the lonely role later, basically down the skate park and all my mates rode scooters.

And I was like, man, I want to ride with the, I want to learn with everybody else. So I ended up like, I had to borrow like their scooter and their shoes because obviously I rolled later. I didn't have shoes. You can't roll a blade on the scooter. Yeah. Well, you can if you try enough. But, uh, yeah, pretty much just, it was all fun at the start.

And then you like build up and just, I don't know, you slowly progress, but I guess at the start, you obviously have to be able to get hurt and not like cry about it kind of thing. Like get, pick yourself up and keep going. And if you see somebody would like, were you helmeted in the beginning or people in helmets or not? Yeah. Yeah.

Helmeted. And is it well received by others? If you wear a helmet or is it kind of, it's, it's, um, it depends what you're doing. Like, you're not going to go out there and do a triple backflip with no helmet on because you, if you crash, then you're not going to be doing any more flips after that. You might, you know, like you can get seriously hurt, but definitely like the skateboarding realm is like, yeah, if you don't, you're not wearing a, if you were in a helmet like only in a stair set, they're like, what are you doing?

Yeah. But it's kind of well received in scooter and BMX to wear the helmet because a lot of people have gotten hurt even with a helmet on and like, can't ride anymore. So it's like, if everyone wasn't wearing a helmet, then there'd be way less BMX riders because I think that Oh, is that, is that, is that, it gets that dangerous, huh? It definitely does get dangerous. And it's just like, why not have a helmet on and just protect your noggin?

Yeah. I just always, I would never want my kids, I don't think to see me in a helmet, you know, if I'm a dad, you know, I feel like that's such a, Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I guess you might not suit a helmet. I don't think I've ever seen a picture of you in a helmet.

So yeah. And that's probably a reason for that. Yeah. Probably a reason for it. Yeah. But I think, yeah, if a kid sees her dad in a helmet, I think it just does something to a kid that it's just hard to like, you guys, this helmet is different because they're more like cool looking helmets.

I feel like, but if you're in like one of like, if you're like on a bicycle, like in the neighborhood and you're, and your dad drives up the driveway in the bike and he has on a helmet, I feel like it just, I don't know, I would feel so sad for my dad and then I would feel so sad for me, I think. Yeah. I guess like if you were in a cyclist helmet, the worst ones, I think, I don't know if you have like birds that sweep you here. Like we have magpies in Australia and then like sweep you.

So you see cyclists, they'll, they'll have like a cycling helmet and then they'll have zip ties, like pointing up in the air. To keep the birds out. So keep the birds from sweeping their heads. That's crazy, dude. Yeah, I used to paint this, this, uh, I used to paint fences on this man's property and I used to do it with this big, uh, kind of urban gentleman and he died actually, but he was alive at this point and we used to, he also used to cut grasses.

Dude, Johnny was the name big Johnny and he wore these, he had like, it was big. He had like real dark skin and he had a big chest here and he would have these jewel, like a lot of gold and stuff and silver choice chains and stuff in it and he was a homosexual guy actually, I didn't know that at the time, but people said he was later. But anyway, he, um, the birds would come, he and I would paint these fences and the birds would swoop down because he had a big aphrodisiac, so the birds would swoop down to get into his hair. Yeah.

So at one point my only responsibility was to have this like badminton racket and just fucking swat away all like these, uh, I don't want to say it was nightingales, but it might have been something else. No, try like nest. Yeah. They come in and try to nest at him. He's like, you got my back. You got your butt.

So I'm just sitting there all day just fucking, just, uh, just love, love with mother nature, you know, um, but, but anyway, yeah. So because yeah, I think sometimes if I had that helmet, it would make me, if I saw my dad on a regular bicycle, but in your sport, you guys need the helmet. Yeah. Yeah. I'd suggest wearing a helmet just because you could like not even be trying anything crazy and just like fall over and just hit your head and there's like a, there's a lot

of guys that like have had brain injuries and then they can't ride and it's like if they, and there's be people that get hurt, not wearing a helmet and can't ride. So it's like may as well just wear one, but I get where you're coming from, but I'll stick to wearing a helmet. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so what about this?

So you get going, you get, now was it frowned upon that you're in there with the, uh, roller blades? Was that kind of like, uh, yeah, well, yeah, it was because I rolled away for like four years, but it was kind of like, that's all I had. You know, I was just my, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I grew up with a single mom and she was like, she, that's all we could afford. Right?

We just had the role blades and then it's like, I was like, sweet. And then once I started, I was like, man, this is fun. Like this is so fun. I'm just going to roll a blade because it's so fun. It's the only thing I tried. So I did that for like four years. Imagine a roller blade. Four years.

Man. I mean it. It's not straight. It's like on and off. On and off. Yeah. Oh thank god. And so then you, when you get up to the scooter.

Where do you start to like make your like where do you start to kind of make your climb into like this fucking like Astrophysicist on a scooter like you're like this like you're like a bullet kind of like where do you start to make your climb then? Um, I would say like I jump on a scooter. I think I wrote for like maybe Three or four years and then kind of got sponsored and then once I got to sponsored that we did like a trip to The USA and that was like when I was like what like I'm riding a scooter and like they're flying me over to the USA To just ride skate parks. This is like kind of like mind-blowing. This is crazy So where were you riding when you're riding before you're still at these skate parks locally? Yeah, all just the skate parks and then for about so yeah for about five five or six years

It was just the skate park stuff and then that's like after that Nitro Circus see me on YouTube right and now like oh, let's give this guy go on this 40 foot jump and then see what he can do And I was like let's go. Oh 17 years old just like ready to send it You didn't want it so you didn't have any so like yeah, was there a lot of fear or anything like what goes What starts to go away? Does the fear start to go away or take me through some of that process because you're Let's see if we can pull up one of yours. Um Just pull up one of uh, I just want to cut you to kind of take me through What's what some of this is when you like because now you do some pretty you're on like some pretty intense ramps, huh? Yeah

Yeah um Probably go like just a single trick don't do the Just having like triple front flip that's a good one. That's probably my hardest one on scooter Okay, let's look for that one. You just like triple front flip in the top. Yeah Yeah, I know down one. Yeah, there we go I'm probably just skipping a little bit but This one was crazy because it was like

They built this jump just for me to do this trick Wow And like the thing is I'm always scared like I'm always scared the fear is always there It's just the confidence is built built up, you know, I've gained confidence in my abilities in myself Hey, hold on. We can hear that in here. It's too loud in here. Sorry Yeah, I don't even think we need the audio of it if we can we can probably just look at the video Okay, so right here. So they're building this they built this ramp So this is at travesta strana's house

So is this when you once you get on this is this once you get over here to the u.s. Yeah, yeah on that tour No, not that first tour. This is like after I've been on nitro circus and then I'm like this is when I'm kind of Really starting my career. Wow. Yeah, but this is You look like a full-on Dame from fucking Adelaide, bro. You look like a single mom. I don't know. I don't know what look I was going for there But yeah, um, they built this ramp just for this trick And I was so scared because no one had ever landed a triple front flip on BMX And it's still like one of the hardest tricks I've ever done even though this is like

I don't know seven years ago Dude now, did you did these guys think you could do it or guys like sites for each other? Is it like a lot of camaraderie? Yeah, that's the thing about action sports is that like we know that if the other guy doesn't land it like he can get really hurt So it's all just like we're all homies. Everyone's cheering everyone on no one wants anyone to fail We want everyone to win right? And this is my homie. I was actually racing him to do the first one and he He got he got to do the first attempt and yeah, you'll see it's just explosion Yeah

And is that a children's bike? I mean kind of it's a full it's a full man bike. Okay. Yeah a kid could ride it though Yeah, it was not it was it was wild So when you're going up this like what speed are you going whenever you hit this whenever you go up this ramp? I think we had a speed domino and it was like 35 miles per hour 35 40 Yeah And so all right, so you get on this bike

I just like what I do is kind of like you can close your you know You can close your eyes and you can write your name, you know, right, you know So it's like that I've I've wrote a BMX so long that I can like picture it in my head before I even do it So it's like I just close my eyes and I like have like a simulator in my brain that I've I've created over like 15 years of riding action sports and I can just play that trick out boom boom in my head 30 times before I drop in and then I drop in and it's like okay. This is what I have to do I'm doing it and then I'm as I'm doing it. I'm like calculating. Okay. Is this what was meant to be happening? Is this what I imagined was going to be happening right and if it is I'm like sweet

Stay on and if I'm looking and I'm seeing something else. I'm like, all right. How am I not how do I not land on my head right now? Right. So at a certain point, it's just you realize it's kind of survival Like if it's if something feels a little bit off or something you realize at that point I just needed a land I need to land safely and redo it. Yeah, yeah, exactly So like I'm a professional crasher. I would say as well to be a professional action sports athlete you have to be a professional crasher because If you if you can't crash then you can't get back up and try again Manscaped has been busy and just launched the

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Start earning bitcoin back on all your qualifying purchase to today block fi.com slash theo Okay, so on that on that trick right there that you're doing. What is that trick called? That was a triple front flip on BMX Okay, and it'd never been done before no in human by human by anybody Uh, but I don't think by anyone. Maybe yeah, I haven't seen any animals do any though So if you when you're going up you're going up that ramp, yeah, how do you then get your bike to flip? Frontward because it would seem like you're going to go backwards. Have you ever done a flip? Um, I done a flip on a trampoline. Yeah

And it's kind of similar to that but it's like obviously wheels different inertia But it's like so what I do the way I do it is I would ride up, right? And then I I initiate the front flip by throwing my upper body over the front of the bike, right? And then it's going to tip the bike up. When do you do that? Like do you know when to do it? Yeah, I have to do it a little bit early on that triple front flip because obviously it's three flips Not one like one flip you can be like like just chill and it comes around two flips Then you have to give it more three flips is like, okay

I just have to put everything into it and I actually like nose manual, which is like where you go on the front wheel? So I'll be going on one wheel up the ramp before I'm even off the top And then that's what just flicks me and then wow So when you leave the ramp, you're only on that front wheel. Yeah on that trick Wow, because I have to just give it everything Can you feel that front wheel catch the edge of that ramp at all or no? Yeah, it hits that trick The funny thing is I have I had bruises on my legs because

The bike would like press against my legs so hard because I would throw so hard that the handlebars would hit me in the legs And that's how I knew I was spinning fast because I was like, oh, yeah I felt that and you then you feel the flick and you just kind of like hold on for the ride And so at that point, do you just hope that you land at the exact right kind of timing or or is the ramp built so that You could kind of as long as you're coming you can come in at a lot of different angles and land Yeah, so it's kind of you like obviously the ramp is like 50% of the trick, you know because it's like you gotta have the same the right trajectory If you're coming into a flat surface, you're just gonna explode. Oh, so you need to like it's almost like a plane

You know it comes into land just smooth like that So it's like when we land we want to be landing in the trajectory of the landing So that's like smoother, but it's still a hard landing So all the places where you land usually it has to be at an angle so that yeah, yeah, because you couldn't just do it flat No, not not safely, you know I there is like a certain level and once you pass that level your bones can't do it. Yeah That's a fucking homemade halloween baby, you know Damn, bro. That's crazy, man. So, um, okay, so take me through some of this

So you start to get are you in school at this point? Oh, yeah, so I started so whenever you kind of you kind of get going you get on the scooter, right? And the scooter frowned upon I mean scooter like you see somebody on a scooter like Yeah, yeah, you don't think like oh look at this guy. Yeah I think and that's kind of a cool thing when I'm doing these night shakers to us because like especially here in America They're like, they're like, are you gonna take that scooter down that ramp? And I'm like, bro, I'm gonna do way more than just take it down the ramp But yeah, when I first started obviously scootering was like it was just it was just fun, man

And uh, we did get it was like Skateboarders be like, why are you riding a scooter? You're not gonna get anywhere riding a scooter, dude I'm like, well, I'm just having fun, man. I'm not really trying to get anywhere. I'm just trying to get to the skateboard and do some stunts But yeah, I got heaps of um grief for that like bullied obviously But was there a lot of people scootering were more people starting to do it? Yeah, yeah, and that was like blowing up right and I was like on the forefront of that and then it's kind of like that's why It I got to catch this wave of like new age scooted dudes, right? And the these tricks weren't created yet

So I was like in the forefront and I could create tricks because like the tricks that I was doing 10 years ago 100 like 10,000 kids can do it now Whereas it was like a world's first 10 years ago. It was like being at the front of like It was like buying bitcoin, you know It was like it was like being at the forefront like people like Bitcoin and then like the dudes that did like yeah now So it's like that's what I'm doing It's like I got in that first wave of scooters and then now I'm here like yeah

Yeah, crazy Okay, I see man. Wow. Did you um And did you just feel like did you try skateboarding as well? Did you try other things in the beginning and you just felt Most capable with the scooter or what makes you stay with that? Yeah, I think that the biggest thing was just my mates did it, you know And I just wanted to hang out with all my friends and like if all my mates skateboarded I probably would have been a skateboard I probably would went that direction

Because I did have a skateboard and I would skateboard when my mates skateboarded I would ride a BMX when my mates rode a BMX and that was kind of the thing I would go to the skate park I was like, I don't know. I was like a treasure trove of actual sports I would just bring like everything I could to the skate park just in case like more people were doing that I'd be like, okay, it's time for the skateboard today, you know, and then I would just Um do that and that's kind of like why I picked up scooter and so much just because Dude, my mates are doing it and it was just the coolest vibe to go down the skate park

Have your mates learn new tricks and then Fuck, that's sick. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why I stick with the scooter even though I got a lot of grief for it at the start And um and at school. So it was just you were you an only child? Yeah. Oh really? Yeah. Oh wow And so and your Did it was your mom like supportive are you doing this kind of stuff? Or did she think it was dangerous or was she kind of a rebel? What was she like? My mom so I did I raced BMX like on the dirt track like just racing We go like when I was like younger than when I role-played it or at the same time because my mom was like

Best in Queensland at racing BMX when she was young She was like number one in Queensland and then she started when I started again When she was like 30 and then she was number one again. So really? Yeah, my mom's my mom's crazy Bring up a picture of her again. What's her name? Oh, I got the best one. You do? I got a best video search Mother vs. Mega rant mom vs. Mega rant. I got my mom to hit my mega rant. No way. Yeah That's where I don't know what a mega ramp is but I believe you I believe you I want to I want to know more about it. Just stop in um, oh, yeah mom No, oh, yeah that one. It's that one there

And then you're gonna have to skip in a little bit though Uh, yeah, yeah, go back. That's it go back now. No, no, no a little bit further Uh, wow that's your mom. What's her now? I keep back back. Sorry. Um, my mom's name's Donna You can see her here. Look here we go. She doesn't look that bad in a helmet. Who's on the back? No, she's dimmed up That's my mate Gecko Look at her go She's had three beers too That australian breakfast, dude

Yeah, it's fucking crazy. See you can do that Legend. Oh, I could do that. Definitely, dude I could definitely do that. Yeah, Donna's throwing up fucking signs, dude The best thing is she did it. She did it again. Like she was like that was it But she was like, I didn't go fast enough. I want to go higher. Yeah So this is in your backyard at home. Yeah. Yeah. This is uh, I just bought this land. It's called our willy land It's like an action sports paradise for myself and I just been like building ramps and uh, yeah Just progressing action sports. Now how so

Okay, a couple things here. So how um How how How big is this uh our willy land? It's uh 40 acres. Okay, but it used because it used to be a mango farm Oh, yeah, they took out mangoes out there. Yeah, they just fall off the tree Like I'll be walking up to go to a tree mango just fall off and I'll just pick it up. Oh God, it sounds good. So good Oh come for the freaking dangerous animals stay for the free fruit man. Um So you got this park and now how much does this park kind of cost to that that kind of space? Yeah, so, um

I mean the land's like over half a million for the land, but that's like You know, it's like that everywhere. So it's like that's general but the ramp is like $5,000 and then for that big airbag thing like it's a bag jump and that thing's like It cost me like close to 50 grand. Wow. Yeah, but then I've got another one That's like a landing so like you switch you go from that That is what I practice my tricks on and like you can land on like your head and be kind of all right And then um once you get your trick dialed You switch it to the landing and then you can like fully land the trick, you know like

Claim the the new trick, you know, okay, so you would then move that out of that space and put the ramp in that You know, you can land on. Yeah, exactly. Wow. Is that a crazy day? Oh, man It is like it's I've had it for like a year and a half now And it's just insane because the best thing is I have my mates from the skate park Obviously, I got a great opportunity with nitro circuits, you know, I got to ride these ramps and go to these places and Like progress myself, but my mates obviously suck at home. They didn't have anything like that So now it's so funny to see the mates that I grew up with like 10 years ago That were just riding the skate park now

They're riding like this mega ramp at mine and doing tricks that like no one else has done as well So they're progressing and becoming the best rider they can be because I've got it and it's it's a trick As well because I get like young scooter kids like 10 year old kids coming in and doing double back flips And I'm like, what is even going on? I was like, I don't even know what I was doing when I was 10 You're gonna see pay. Yeah, like they're passing you. It's like, oh, yeah Yeah, it's like it's I'm sure it's interesting to be a part of the um kind of the movement in a way Um, okay, so you get to this nitro circuit. Let's go back in time a little so you get on to this thing Where you're going now you're going to go tour in America. Yeah, so

You got signed the video you put some videos that got out and you got signed by nitrous circus Yeah, so I did uh I got signed by nitro circuits and the first one was actually in australia and it was just like Some company scooter heart they had paid to like do advertising there and then nitro circuits was like, oh Who are some scooter kids like up and come and scooter kids that can come jump this ramp and I was one of them and I just On my first show I did like a world's first double front flip on scooter and then from then on it was like I was just on and it was just It was mind-blowing. I was like, oh, like this is insane. And did you

So at this point, do you have like a girlfriend already at this point? Do you have like I think I did have a girlfriend I was because I was in school in that and um, yeah And it like obviously traveling and stuff it was hard, but I this was like when I'm 17 So it was like Wow, a school a school girlfriend, you know, right and were you like a were you becoming like a lot of pretty popular in your area And stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely at the skate park and like at school people knew I was like flying I literally was doing school Monday to Friday and then flying out and doing a nitrous circus show and then flying home You know and doing school. So it was like a trip

But yeah, I was kind of a nerd in school too. So I finished school and got into university But I didn't choose to do that now in australia. Do you have to go to university? You don't have to no you can like drop out you can drop out early I could have already been out of school when I was doing nitrous circus and just being like a laborer, right? But You can go. Yeah It's pretty it's like pretty Wow, we're so sick. Yeah It's so good, man

Okay, so then you get on this tour and you guys start to come to america your mom like stoked for you Is she disappoint like is she bummed that you're leaving like what is some of her thoughts? Yeah, um She was like obviously she was worried at the start You know, it's like I'm risking my life kind of and like I could get really hurt. So yeah, you're fucking around on a scooter Don't say to be Until you make it and it's really professional. Yeah, you're whatever any child I think is doing for their parents the parents. I was like, you're what the fuck? You know, you're fucking around, you know, I want you to do well, but you're fucking around here

Yeah, yeah for sure until you really start to do well and then she like gain she obviously gained confidence in myself and Yeah, I was pretty lucky with injury and just like being calculated and not just like throwing myself out there Because that's always been the biggest thing. It's like we're not dead. It was like we are in a way But we're all I'm like calculating the risk. It's like, right. Is it worth doing this? Is the reward worth it? Yes, okay, send it. Oops Broke my leg. But it was worth it. Yeah, but yeah, um, so I was uh, I got a nudge circus and then that's kind of when things started to really blow up for me

And that's like when I started to really get a name And then that just made me more stoked to be writing and like do better because I was like, man me having fun doing these Tricks that I love doing is like progressing me through life. This is like a trip. Yeah It is crazy when like your dream or something that you're really putting energy into that the world kind of meets that Like like starts to like kind of push that forward. You're like, what this is crazy. Like why me? Like, why do I get to have this? Like, um this Why does why do I get to be met this way by the flow of life, you know, I think honestly a huge thing for me too was

The fact that you did get like I did get grief for riding a scooty You know, I got bullied for riding a scooter by like other people was better. Oh, if I did if I threw a buy I yelled something But then that was like that's like sick like whatever I just took it right on the chin And I was like, I'm gonna be so good that you can't not be impressed that that was like that was it That's like was my driving force like my fire in my belly. It was like, all right So you think that this is so bad. You can't be cool. Well, I'm gonna be so good that you start to think it's cool Right that you can't help but think it's good. Yeah. Yeah, there's something nice about the wow That's crazy. You have that that desire to be fucking undeniable that desire to like

Prove people wrong even if it's just a general. Yeah, not even an exact person, but a general people Um, and so and what about your mom? Did she get remarried? She got she got some man or no? Yeah, yeah, she is now, but that was a while into it. It's funny. So my mom worked at Australia zoo I don't know if you've ever heard of Australia zoo. Yeah, I might have been over there I can't remember you the one where you get to hold the um the koala. Yeah, the koala and everything They got all the birds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they got a gang gang bird over there actually Yeah, so she worked there and then um met the target the target handler and like yeah And then now she's married to the target handler. Damn. He's patting that cat boy. That's insane dude. Sorry. I know that's your mom

No, that's chilling. But that's you know, that's how it works. That's really that's god, bro Um, she actually lives at my house too. She does. Yeah, so it's pretty cool. Yeah, well because so what happened was I was When I was growing up, obviously it was hard for my mom and then um and your dad was just gone. He just was no He wasn't gone. He was like He was just in a different state and it was just like I thought it was it was actually kind of cool because Like I didn't really know what was going like like I was so young. It was like cool I get to go on holidays. I get to go down there and like ride different skate parks sick, right? So Yeah, so that wasn't like it was fine. My dad and I see my dad here and there and I my dad actually lives at the land now

So my dad my dad lives at the land where and because he's an excavator driver So I like employed him basically to be the groundskeeper Willie Right and then my mom lives at my house that I live in like that's crazy. That's a trip So then now they're almost all back on the same area. Yeah, kind of yeah, but my mom stays away from me. Yeah Well, she got what she needed out of him. Yeah, true Um, okay, so once you get on some of these tours, right? So you get on are you on the tours when you start to get on to some of these nitro circus, right? Yeah, is that who's on these types of tours? What types of people is it? Oh, yeah

Is it like a carnival kind of like does it have that vibe or at that time? What was the vibe like of it? Like was it really it was it was pretty intense It was pretty gnarly like when I first got on it was It was like I don't know if you've ever heard of the metal militia. Yeah, that's uh, that's um, uh, yeah Brian Deegan. Yeah. Yeah, I spoke with him yesterday actually. No way. Yeah, actually I called him I was like, hey, tell me about this our Willy guy. I was like, you know, just let me know a little bit more You know, but he said a lot of nice things, right? Yeah, so they were like Back in the day, they were like pretty gnarly

So when I got on they were going straight from like metal There was a few metal militia guys on nitro circus, but nitro circus was like steered towards It was also it also had that like gnarliness But it also had like the family vibe like we had funny like Like contraptions like we would literally we still have it is like we would have this with wheels on it and it jumps the ramp Oh, that's cool. So it was like there was that kid vibe as well like the family vibe So there really is like a circus vibe to it in a way. Yeah. Yeah kind of like a family circus like um action sports vibe Thanks, bro

Yeah, because the sir when I was a kid, you know what came to town sometime was the circus Barnum's and Bailey Two men, I think one of them was a black dude. I don't know. You never saw it a man, but one of them had like a whip or something Yeah, but they came to town and they would have like the tent, you know And they'd have the guy who would swing and you know, he would do a flip and then catch the other bar And like then he would light him on fire or something swinging back They'd have an elephant somebody do a back flip off an elephant Um So you had like that was that was like a circus, you know, that was like a circus that came to town

They didn't have like the crazy tricks. So but it was like a route I was like I was like a rowdy circus because it was like these guys are just like mischiefs So a lot of them were like just mischiefs and then like now we're in the limelight like the when I first got on It was it was pretty crazy like the after parties were pretty gnarly. I'm 17 years old Damn So were you going to these places? Is this some of the first time you drank this stuff? You've been drinking with your macy's Up back. Yeah, I drank the I drank a little bit like in Australia. We drink pretty young which is kind of like Yeah, yeah, you guys do everything. Yeah, when you guys die when you guys die, you're like, I'm done

Yeah, yeah, for sure. You guys get the most out of the world. It seems like yeah for sure But um, so yeah, it was super. It was pretty wild So you can you drink and stuff at these parties afterwards? Are you like it's pretty chill? Yeah, yeah, it was chill like and because it was a nitro circus like I would be out of drink and go out and it was cool and it was just like wow because these dudes were like Super stars and I was just like the scooter kid It was actually kind of funny when I first got on nitro circus. They were like, we want him out of their skate parks We're gonna let him jump the ramp. Hopefully he crashes and like hurts himself kind of deal like they wanted me

I was like a side show at the start I was like the side show so it's like but I didn't care 17 years. I was like, oh my god. This is crazy And are you guys you guys you're on you're going on tour buses? What are you guys on? Um, we would fly but we also would do a tour tour buses sometime But that was like when we did Europe tour. So that was a little bit later. Maybe two or three years into Doing the touring. Okay. That's when we got on the bus. So you guys pull into like a venue and it's like, um, Is it outdoors is in a stadium? It's like what kind of venues are we talking? What is it? We've done both So we've did we did like a staple center. We've done Madison Square Gardens and that yeah that is wild

that's when we do like a bus tour and And it's a trip because you do this massive show like in front of 10,000 plus people You party go to sleep on the bus wake up in a different like state and then do it again Yeah, like three sometimes three nights in a row Damn, bro. Yeah. Yeah, I just got a we just got a tour of us over there. We're getting our first one starting this week next Uh Next week or something. Yeah, so I'm excited to have like a little bit of a change of pace Yes, but yeah, that thing where you like leave late at night and you just wake up and you're somewhere else. That's pretty cool

It's a trick especially in Europe. It's like a trip because wake up in a different country and it's a totally different You're like, what is going on? It's like you had a like a weird dream and now you've tried time traveled So had you finished school? So you're out doing this thing or you graduated or no? Yeah, so I just passed schooling like primary high schooling, right and then uh, and is it just like chris lily like in that show like in uh in um Uh, what's that show called? Uh chris lily You know, it's like miss

We're looking. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um summer high tie. Yeah summer high. Is it really like that over there? You know what? It's kind of it kind of is like it's not even a bad representation. Yeah It's awesome. Yeah I love that dude That was one of the best things when I did a tour in australia. I got to meet chris lily and that was pretty cool Yeah, he's a legend. Oh, dude Unprecedented that show that show over in australia. That's like That's like one of the best shows. Yeah, that's everyone knows it. It's like a lot of people here still don't know you chris

Have you ever seen summer high tie? Wow You got to watch it bro when somebody hasn't seen it. I get so jealous because their life's going to be so much better It'll check bro. If your relationship's bad sit down and watch that together. I'll watch it There you go. Yeah, it's perfect very very very Good answer there. Um, okay. So you're on this tour. You guys are doing this tour You're like going to different cities and stuff and that's in the u.s. Right? Yeah, it's your first time in the u.s

us in europe, um I did do it like a little scooter trip like when I was really young for the u.s But the biggest like the actual tours and the full-on experiencing the usa Yeah, it was on nacho sex tours on a bus and In flying a lot has anybody ever paid you to do like a private party or something like that like uh Um, I've done like cool camps for kids and like done like um in canada I went to all in skate park and like just spent a week with kids and taught them. It's pretty crazy actually uh I was filming youtube videos

And these kids were just so stoked that I would like get so much content because these kids would just send themselves and like I got some I got some wild clips of these kids just sending it, you know, really? Yeah Is this is are there times or do you ever meet a kid? You're like, oh that kid's gonna die, you know Yeah Yeah, there's a few there's a few like I'm like, oh, I think I'm wild but these these kids do you got to get a mark And put a little star on their shoulder or something. You know I'm saying just so yeah, just watch out keep tabs. Yeah. Yeah um All right, so once you really get so once you like at this point your career is going like are you

Are they paying you like what is that whole process like? Yeah, so obviously when I first got on nitro It was like I was 17 years old So I was it was great money for then right happy to be there. Yeah. Oh, yeah They give you a thousand bucks a week. You're like, this is amazing But then I think about three years in that's when I was like Making a living, you know, or not even actually probably probably a year after starting with nitro Then I was like, okay. I can literally do this for a job. Wow. Yeah, and then eventually It like I bought my first house when I was 21

Damn, and then yeah, and then just kept kept going from there They're like crazy to ride a scooter and then like to make such a good living. It's just it's a trip Yeah, one thing I noticed about you even in watching some of your own, uh podcast clips and stuff is just like your enthusiasm and like you're kind of like Just your excitement that this is your life, you know Like sometimes I embrace that stuff like kind of cautiously like I'm almost a not ashamed of my life But sometimes I get embarrassed that I make money or embarrassed that I'm you know have like You know, you seem to just kind of wear it just kind of more like excited like I can't believe I get to do this

And this is it, you know Yeah, well, I always just want to be out of like I want to show like I want to I want people to see that Like you can be a 12 year old scooter kid down the skate path like literally You can be that kid and then make a living it out of it when no one really like ever thought you would Yeah, so it's like you can pave your own path. It doesn't matter if the path isn't there yet You can make your own path and then like that's why I'm like so stoked. I'm like, right, dude I'm here like with you on your podcast and I've been I've watched you for so long And then now I'm here and the reason I'm here is just because

I'm so stoked to be riding a scooter and I Literally and here because I didn't listen to that person that told me that I couldn't do anything riding a scooter Right, you know, if I listen to that person go So, mate, you're not going to do anything riding a scooter or the thousands of people that told me that actually if I listen to even one of those people I wouldn't be sitting here today. Right. So stoked with my life. So it's like I just want to Inspire people to just keep Pushing on and believing in whatever you're doing. It doesn't matter. Yeah Yeah, no, that's the unique gift you have man because yeah, it's like you make me more stoked to be here today

And I was like excited, you know, because I'm a fan and I wanted to learn I want to learn about You know, what you do and what goes into it and stuff. Yeah, but then when I see you it's like you're so excited I'm like Fuck now I have to be more excited Because I have to meet you at a certain level of excitement. Um, where do you get that from? Do you think you get that from one of your folks actually? Yeah, I don't know actually, um the people around me like Travis Pastrana It was a huge inspiration to me and it wasn't just because of the things that he's done like he's done amazing things

incredible things, but and he's done things that um other people could maybe do now, but the thing is That inspires me about Travis Pastrana is the fact that he can bring the best out of the people around him Oh, wow, when he the funniest thing we're on tour right now with Nitro Circus and We we're doing the show and he's not at the shows and then he turned up for one show And that show was like the best show we did because of the energy that he brings And just the level he just lifts you to a new level like just with his presence. Yeah, and like that's what inspires me That's what I'm trying to reach now. It's like can I

Be that guy that when the scooter kids like when the scooter kids around me BMX kids around me they Just get that little extra like boost, you know, let's see what we can do. He's here Yeah, how can I be that guy? That is the cool. I think that is like the coolest thing about Travis Pastrana And that's like what it inspires me to just be stoked. Yeah for many people in the u.s Of america concerned about the cost of health insurance. There are no good options. There's none zilt show But crowd health is a community of people who are tired of paying for a broken system Yep, it's a place where you can get a simple flexible and affordable way to pay for your health care

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that Gives him that ability you think or what is it about him? It's the thing it's how great he is right and the accomplishment that he's done Right, so he has his work that he's yeah, but he's so he's so good. He is like up there You know, like he's a everyone kind of knows him Yeah, it's like he's like a tony hawk as well Like he's that level and you like you halt you like think okay He's that level like he probably doesn't have that much time, but he does for everybody He's like everyone's best friend and that was the trippiest thing for me when I got on night

So because was the first show I'm on this scooter kid and I do this well first and I remember after I did it I was like so stoked But the biggest thing I remember from that day is riding back to the the start ramp and Travis high-fived me and going dude. That was sick. Like that was so cool. And I was like I was like wow like this is insane that this guy that I Hold up like this like I've held up inspired me to even start For him to just give me that it was like it was like a a year's worth of excitement in one second. Wow Wow, yeah, yeah, it's so amazing man when you

Have like somebody that you really idolize or you really put on a pedestal and they have a little bit of time for you Or they have like an encouragement that really helps, you know, man The power that is almost unprecedented really I think I think that and I always keep that in mind because we obviously do these Nitro Sega shows and it's like there's thousands of people there and like Kids will want to come get a photo take a picture get an autograph It's like and that's what I always remember. I always remember like Five seconds of Travis for strongest time was like a year's worth of just excitement for me So it's like if I can give a kid five seconds of my time and that it means that much to him

I'm gonna give that kid that five seconds every single time, you know, yeah keeps you stoked And so y'all show so so you said you hit a first trick and that was on one of the Nitro's on one of the yeah, yeah, so it was just a it was a double front flip on scooter and like no one had ever tried it And what you did we saw earlier was a triple triple. Yeah, so that yeah, so that evolved obviously into that triple And did you start to when you got on the tour? What prepping for that trick you'd already done it in practice Um, I had tried so when I first got on the show, I tried it in practice and crashed it twice Okay, so that's what made the moment so special is that like it was my first show. I'm obviously like

It's so excited like and so nervous But to ace that trick it was like it was like something happened Like it was like the trajectory of my life just went Damn, and I was like, okay. I'm I'm doing it. Wow You must feel like there's like a higher power or something that has a hand in that when you because it just the science and everything to like Flip off of something and just have it be perfect in a moment where it's like in a real show Yeah, well, that's I think that that's where I've done really well like I never think that I'm someone that Is physically built better or like wired better than anybody else. I think I just managed to

Like succeed when it's most important. It's like at x games It's like I need to do land this trick now and then I'll just land it, you know But I I obviously do the preparation, but for some reason it's just sick to Like in moments of when I need to do it. I got it done and I think that's the main reason why I got to where I am today and it's like It's it's again. I mean, it's yeah, it almost feels like you're favored In some sense. Yeah, obviously and I just thank Whatever the driving force is thank you and I try to thank you every day

And I try to give back like my positivity to the people around me because maybe that'll turn their trajectory You know, maybe that'll do you know that one moment might change their life and they might do something Better and be better in the end, you know, so yeah No, man It's inspired even sitting with you makes me feel a little bit better than when I wasn't sitting with you Thanks, man. I think you got to give yourself some appreciation too. I think that you I mean you probably realize like I'm sure a lot of people like ride in and tell you How like happy you make their lives and I'm sure you you make people's day so like much better just by listening to you talk

And I think that's amazing and I think that's that's why you deserve to be paid for what you do and like you work hard So it's like you deserve it. I think yeah, yeah, it's funny Sometimes I have a tough time thinking that I deserve things, you know, and I don't know where that comes from I think it comes from I don't know I try to find you just got to find it. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it's another try to it takes a while sometimes to find things like that We really trying to figure out where they're from, you know Yeah, for sure

But yeah, I've always struggled feeling like I deserve stuff, you know Um, but that's okay. I hope to be able to figure it out and and I'm sure that I will Yeah What uh, so you get in so when do when do you get into? Like like at some point you when you want a couple of competitions, right? I know I read this but um and deegan was talking talking with me about it but Uh, so what happened like that was kind of like another thing that changed Yeah, so they um the shows are huge and then they had a thing called nitro world games and it was like a competition now

So they changed the the show Changed it to a competition and it was obviously the x games Right And that was a huge one that I wanted to do but obviously I was like a scooter rider and a BMX rider at a certain point It's funny funny story. Actually, so I rode BMX at the skate park here and there, but it wasn't like my profession, right? Right and then at nitro circus I was doing tricks on a scooter that hadn't never been done on a BMX bike Wait, hold on. So you're doing tricks on a scooter

That's never been done on a BMX. Yeah. Yes. Okay, you can do the same you can do the same tricks Obviously just a different vehicle, but so I was doing tricks that I could do on a scooter that no one had never never done on BMX And so did someone challenge you to do it on the BMX? That's it They were like the only reason you can do this is because you're on a scooter and I was like You know what? I reckon that's not true And I ended up borrowing one of their bikes like one of the other guys on tour I borrowed their bike and I did the trick first. Like I think I was like first try. I did it and then that's when like I was like Here we go x games dream. I can reach it

Like all I have to do is bring these scooter tricks over to the BMX world because no one's doing it for some reason Because they think it's lame or something right and I'm like, oh, well, I I don't mind I'll just do the lame tricks then I'll just be the lame legend If you need me, I'll be in lame land Drinking lame inade, baby Up there dog. Damn That's beautiful, dude. So now at that point, did you win that thing?

Yeah, so I won the nitro world games. Um, the first year it happened I actually lost the scooter competition and won the BMX competition Which is kind of hilarious and then came back the next year and I won scooter and BMX Damn And then I think it was like the year after I finally got on x games and then Yeah, one three x games Golds now has anybody won three x games gold or no so

Yeah, people have won like Travis has won so many I think he's got like some of the most but like that's they're up like in the 20s, you know But that I think so I did accomplish something recently I uh won the I was the first person to do three golds in a row In on the mega ramp. So for some reason for 20 years It had never happened that uh, a person consecutively won three gold medals in a row on the mega ramp And it made me so nervous Because I was coming to the I was coming into the third one like oh, here we go

Like time just kept repeating itself I think like five people before me had won it twice and then they lost this the third time So I was like here we go. So the third time do is that is there a video there? Yeah, um, you go uh x games Ryan Williams x games um 2018 I think on 19 Try I'll tell you straight away. No, no go go 19

Not that one the That one the real cost bigger, but it's a full broadcast go go the second go the next one down Yeah, try that one real quick Wow, it's so high so this isn't my winning run, but you'll see like Wait, is this it? No, this is if I crash it's not it No, no, uh, that was just keep skipping in. Sorry. Oh, hang on. This is gonna play all of them. This is good. This is good actually So keep it rolling. Um, so that was this was the first time I won and this was in australia So my first time ever won x games was in australia my whole family there

I I paid for everyone to fly down and stay there and it was it was like so incredible because that was like my dream Achieved, you know a gold medal at the x games. Oh man. It's it's not this one though go back to go back to the The search click the dude you have that at that point you have the haircut of every I feel like kind of middle-aged woman in the town that I'm from I had to dial it back dude. I don't know what I was doing You were going big dude, but you had a total it was like a real Karen kind of haircut I feel like at that point it's hard to beautiful though very nice try the try the second one

I really want to show you this one because this is I had yeah, this is it. This is it This is it. I had to do the craziest thing at the start. This was the gnarliest thing I've ever done I've never done a backflip drop in and what? Wow Yes, and then I nearly missed up the ramp. I wrote up like The tiniest part of the rant and then I'm like here. I'm like, oh gosh, I gotta land this gotta land this gotta land this gotta land this Gotta land this did it. Oh man, and it was It was such a trick because everyone was doing so well. Yeah, I was I was stoked

Wow, man, I was so stoked. Can we go back one time? It'll it'll be a slow-mo replay. I think yeah. Yeah Yeah, look how stoked you are man. You got to carry your own bike down. What do you think? I was gonna run up and just bring it down at that point. Yeah some sort of concierge. Yeah, you can see So you've never done that and what made you do that? Can we just pause it right there? I wonder when the third in a row, dude. I had oh, so you're thinking what can I do that'll be different right now? I need to do it. They are not like guys are doing tricks into it. Morgan Wade He like did a double tail whip into it and like guys are 360 and into it So they were stepping it up and I knew that I had to do something that like had never been done before

To get the win like they weren't going to give it to me easily So I just like I have to just do this Did you feel like you had extra pressure to try and get the way like they were going to judge you even more harsh? Because you already had two in a row like it's a little bit tougher to get the third one Yeah, I had to I had to send it like I wasn't holding back and I would have just done it anyway like even if I like in the moment it was for Dave Dave Mira, so he he passed away recently and Yeah, and he actually the was the first guy I ever seen do a backflip drop in So I was like when I'm at the top. I'm actually like this is for you Dave

This is for you Mira as I'm at the top and then I just hucked it man And it was great like it's like moments like this the moments like this is the it just trips me out Then I nearly rode off the side of the ramp going like this is obviously one of my It was one of my signature tricks that I brought from the scooter world, right? Wow, so there you go. And what's that trick called? That's called a nothing front bike flip. Of course it is Or a two-way twist of the they've an inside joke until about and then here So you lean that energy forward kind of but not yeah all the way No, I have to be really light though, right because that ramps

27 and a half foot tall So it's like if you and it come off at all like you are hurting yourself real bad. Yeah, so Here's a trick man So what and where do they measure the uh The ramps from where do they measure that 27 feet? Where do they start that so from the where it starts to go up? So from the bottom of the ramp to the coping, which is the metal like part across that's like 27 and a half foot and I think it's like there's some two foot avert or something So vert is just straight up. Okay. And so, uh

When you when you get to like the peak of the ramp, right? You have to be careful not to drift forward. Well, literally. Oh, you don't yeah, you don't want to go forward It's harder to go into the ramp than it is. It's easy to come out like the thing Okay, I could that's the scariest part about that ramp is you're going so fast that literally if I went like this If I went like that, right, I would go So 16 I would go so far up the flat though. I'd break my legs. Jesus Damn, bro. So that's why in that moment, man, I am like That is the most wide I've ever been in my life is when I'm doing that

I'm like if I don't do the right thing right now I'm gonna get really really hurt. Okay. So you're going up. You're heading up the ramp. What is the right thing at that point? Like what's the right amount of So I'll I'll go up. It's just it's kind of like It's like the riding with your eyes closed. You get built. Yeah, it gets built into you. Yeah, like I know that this Will do this, right? So it's like I remember I just I just remembered that I'd done I'd landed the that trick before the The front flip one. So I knew okay. This is what I have to do. I'm going really fast, but I just got a like chill. It's almost like I just float off the ramp. So I rode up and I just got a like I don't

I don't want to initiate. It's not like the triple front flip total opposite Total opposite. You're not trying to just initiate a lot of energy. I'm like I'm like this like literally I'll pretend I'm doing it right now. I'm going up and I'll go like this Like that like that much And then you just and then you just hold on baby. You're on the roller coaster with no you're not strapped in Is your eyes open or not? Yeah, eyes are wide open But you don't at the start it's kind of blind because I'm looking at the sky, you know I'm not looking at the ground and then I'll be looking at the ground. That's kind of the scariest part of that trick

Okay, is what because For a second off for a second. I'm like am I out? Am I on top of the ramp or am I perfectly transitioned into coming in and I like look you can see like I So I go And then I see I'm blind see I'm like looking at I was looking at the roof for a bit and then all of a sudden As I'm coming down I look. Okay. Now. I'm coming in. I'm not landing flat. I'm not hitting the top of the ramp I'm coming in smooth. That would be such the fear. That's the moment when you're like, I'm gonna land it sweet Wow

Yeah, because I've already played it through the simulator right and I'm like, this is what I'm expecting to see And then that moment I seen that There we go. Let's roll away damn bro. That's fire Wow, I wish I knew how to do something like that Well, whenever I come to queen's land, dude, I'm gonna have to go to our willy To our willy land. Yeah and go on uh And do something through the track. Do you know I'll keep the tracks bay. If we had my mom's try No, I need something better than that. Oh, yeah, okay. I think so, dude. Yeah, look

The trike look all all respect to your mom, you know all respect to Donovan. She obviously Fucking has done her work, you know, but I think what's next up from a trike you think? Oh That I could a BMX buck could someone handle that or not. Is that yeah like a mountain bike is kind of pretty sturdy Okay, and you just go off it really. Have you heard a buck? Huh? That's what I was gonna ask you. Have you ever done an extreme sport? um Like skateboarding or anything like rolled around No, they didn't have a lot a lot of skateboarders bus. Just really where it's doing drugs

You know, they own the boards, but they was mostly just for you know setting their drugs on while they were rolling them up But we didn't have a lot of I'm trying to think if we had extreme sports bus Yeah, we had these guys that used to shoot these potato gun like uh Uh, they had like a rest area bus. I don't think have it on and maybe in Australia your whole country is like a rest area Actually, but it's like a rest area is like a place where you stop on the side of the interstate when you're driving Yeah, yeah, and people like uh gate out to use a restroom and drink water change the baby, you know You usually have a cigarette and then uh get back in the van and keep going You know some of them beat the kids or whatever

But um if they've been bad, yeah, yeah, but not uh, but anyway by us There was a there was one of those and behind it. They had a river and a lot of gay men would meet up at these places because it was like a um You know it was like on the outskirts of town and stuff so gay men would meet up over there and You know do drugs and make out and stuff. Yeah, and Across the river that's where I lived So a lot of men over there some of them would not a lot But they had these two guys that would make like potato these potato gun launchers

Yeah, and if like a lot of like like real high men were making out of something they would shoot potatoes over near them Oh, no way pretty best stuff. I mean they weren't trying to endanger them or anything I think they just didn't want to surprise them. Yeah I think they just didn't want them doing a lot of drugs and making out in the water They didn't want to they made it drown because some men had drowned So it's almost like life-guarding a little bit But but that was like the most extreme for whatever saw was people with these potato guns, you know, yeah, um I think anyway, you wrote a bike. Yeah, I wrote a bike

Yeah, but I never really thought much of it. We used to build the ramp, you know Somebody always like the ramp like was a poorly built and this probably come out And then somebody the handlebar would turn and win into some guy's body one time I remember. Yeah, but pretty shit. We were pretty pretty shit ex gamers Oh, well, that's right, but I think I could probably get out there I would love to get out there and try that we see I could I could teach you like safely to do it too. Yeah, so we could get you flying. Yeah, I think I'd be willing to Um, so what is like that? What is the future of this whole sport kind of look like like

What's what is a a mechanism like not the bike or the scooter? What's something that came out that people thought was going to be like the next Thing that people were going to use for tricks that kind of didn't make it. Was there have there been different things? kind of died off now like roll blades are like pretty big Back when I started doing it. It was kind of like still around and still in the x games But then role-playings just dropped off a fair bit, but there's still insane dudes doing the role blades Maybe like a ripstick. I don't know like that's kind of like, you know what a ripstick is the one way people got this To get speed. It's like one wheel and it goes like that. Let's see that. Can we pull that up a ripstick?

It's kind of like a weird. Yeah Oh, yeah, you seen that thing. I think I've seen this. I think that I think that you might find this a bit like even worse than a roll baiting. Yeah, I love it all. If you want to ride a ripstick, man, ride a ripstick Yeah Actually, it looks pretty fun actually I think uh Yeah, I'm trying to think we had like a role a place called roller kingdom bus where we'd have all our birthday parties and uh

Dude this one kid This kid Jeremy who we're buddies with at the birthday parties. He would go and get all the gum from like under the tables and make a huge Like and by the end of the birthday party, he would be chewing the biggest gum dude. He was twisted, bro That's crazy. Oh, he was so twisted dude, and he did it every fucking time, bro He just had this ultimate thing of gum, dude And as nobody would even at his parents, I guess weren't paying attention to him because When they came to pick up they wouldn't even ask him He couldn't even open his mouth one time. He had so much fucking gum and he just breathed through his nose

And his mom's like you're doing great Jeremy, you know So fucking that's an x game right there. Yeah, that's pretty extreme. Yeah, so that's an That's the kind of extreme sports that we had. I feel like a bit more like that um Was there was there what about that with the motorized thing that I see with the one wheel in the middle? Yeah, that's things wild. Um, I've seen some people Who lately doing some pretty crazy jumps on that. I think things just keep evolving and like There's so many crazy

Just sports just people like ride pogo stick professionally. Yeah, and I kind of think that's like I can't say anything like it's great. Like I just appreciate it like whatever if you if you find it fun, man Just just do it, but it's pretty wild that like you can be a professional pogo sticker Yeah, yeah, I wonder if they could do like a pogo stick with like a wheel on it. I wonder if they could do What about helis? You know helis they dropped off. Yeah, they did drop, you know, there was one They used to be soap shoes They're called and they people you literally would have grind plates on their shoes And they would and they would just run and jump and grind downstairs

That's one that's 100 dropped off that people were doing it soap soap shoes SOAP SOUP. Yeah, I think that's soup soap. Soap Yeah, that's soup You see any Chris? I think I've seen some dudes do some pretty Like gnarly rails on it. Yeah. Yeah, so that's mostly for rail slides and stuff like that This is a full movie. Look at this. I think I've seen part of this. It's hilarious soap or die

Ryan, what? Damn, you don't even know that Like there that'd be right. I moved to the UK and here he is. Hey, look, this is it. See on the rail, man Oh, so the shoes have this like a place in the middle. Grind plate. Wow Yeah, this is one that didn't take off. Well, it like I guess it had a time for like a year and then I don't know now. I guess because once you land, you can't like then you just run. I don't know how you get it I think they like run off. It's like that free running, you know Yeah parkour. Yeah, and that's that never really took off

But people still do it and that's just kind of like just running around. Yeah, like it's like practicing running away from like Yeah, it's something. Yeah, like I'm gonna trick the cops or something or like it's almost like athletic A lot of parkour people I think are athletic Graffiti, it's like it's like a little it seems like a side like a side hustle. Yeah for graffiti people. Yeah Like I'm gonna paint this later, but watch first. I'm gonna run, you know, I'm gonna run around I feel like that could actually be pretty cool if that free running incorporated with graffiti like they do There's a graffiti on the run Yeah, I wonder if there's a way where that they as they went up like say they go up a ramp, right?

Or a vert. What is that called? Yeah, it's just a ramp a ramp. Yeah So then if they had a wall while they're up there and like each time they went up They had to paint something and then by the end of like, you know after six times of going up Then they had like a piece of art up there I'm just trying to think do you see something as being like the next thing because something always kind of comes along Like you're saying it's like, you know a new New mode of transportation comes along and then that's what I don't know. Um, like the thing that- Unicycle? Is there unicycle? Yeah, people literally do tricks on that. I think

It's crazy. These days anything can just become something, you know, it's like Tiktok is now huge when five years ago. I didn't like I didn't ever know what that was. Yeah, you know It's just like the niche. It's just something happens and then it just sticks They're just throwing shit at the wall and then it just sticks and they're like, oh everyone's like, I want to throw shit at that shit at the wall too Yeah Why do Australians? Why are you guys such a practice facility for insane shit? It's out of you guys in New Zealand as it always is. I feel like yeah, I don't know. I guess it's in our heritage But um, I guess we've just all we're always just being that kind of loose cannon vibe and then it's just stuck like

I'm super proud to be Australian and when I think of an Australian, I think of like someone that's just like Outgoing gonna try something like crazy. Yeah, you know just For no, I don't even know why we just do it. It's like just built into us Yeah, it's block of it. Is he also he's in New Zealand block of it Yo, uh, no, he's like UFC guy. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah, he's in block of it Isn't he European? He's European. I thought he was I thought he was there's israela to sanya He's new. Is he the Dan Hooker who I love. Yeah, Rob. Robert Whitaker Australian. Oh, really? Taito Iwasa the guy that's the shoes. Yeah, dude. I almost got to meet him at the uh, Poirier fight. Yeah, sick

Yeah, he's a freaking those guys are great. Is there um Do you feel like uh Do you feel like there's like a next level for you? Do you feel like Do you ever feel like You've kind of achieved all that you can or what do you? Yeah? Yeah, I sometimes actually that's one thing that kind of gets to me sometimes. Is that like why am I doing this? You know, you like look around You you see like people that have like a job that is care like you care that cares for someone or they look

After someone and you're like wow that like really matters like you're a doctor that like really really helps someone And then sometimes I'm like, well, I'm just here just spinning around doing circles and like people like to watch it But like what am I really bringing? Yeah, and sometimes that gets to me because I'm like, why am I? risking it myself to just do these like stunts when like what are they really achieving but They do it like people are inspired by it to do anything They might even just be inspired to like go harder in their life and whatever they're doing So it's like yeah, and I'm sure you see kids that remind you of yourself probably Yeah, 100% and that's why I like am always pushing and the craziest thing is like the tricks I'm doing

I was I was doing 10 years ago. Everyone's doing now like so it's like I think the same way like whatever I'm doing now, whatever I do to push the limits here today That's just going to make action sports even crazier like in the long run You know, it's just going to level up action sports. So the harder I can go The harder it's like the crazier it's going to be in the future. I think Is there a chance so you see sometimes you would see like that man drops in from outer space or something with the Red Bull stuff, you know the guy, you know Danny, whatever his name is he jumps off of something and lands, you know Yeah, is there a way that you could do like a drop into a ramp but from like an insanely high like off of a building

and then still hit the Like land it. Yeah. Yeah come in at a certain place on the ramp where you could still then go do something It's something that's possible. That's crazy. Like I'd love to do something like that I've always imagined like maybe doing a trick like a world's first or something new across two buildings or something like that but Robbie Madison is a guy that did He jumped onto the luge. I think or something like I think it was just the one in Vegas though Like the it's like the building with the archway

He like jumped up it and then turned around and then jumped off into a ramp. Wow. Yeah, Robbie Madison. So Did he really can we look at that real quick? Do you? Yeah, it was wild I don't know it's like and are there a lot of I feel like there'd be a lot of vietnamese kids doing this Is there like a lot of asian kids that do this sport? Do you notice the BMX is popping off in japan because they just had the olympics And they strike like logan mart shout out to logan martin He won the olympic gold medal the first ever BMX olympic gold medal Oh, because it was the first time they ever had BMX in the thing the first time they had BMX the first time they had skateboarding

Yeah, this is it So he jumps up right yeah, which is gnarly so gnarly and then he turns around he almost goes too far There's his yeah, hopefully it's his girl. Yeah Tripping out if not at somebody somebody definitely gonna try and get child support out of that for sure Just make it in the video. Wow. Can you imagine looking down from here, bro? Look at that? Oh my god, that means my freaking penis just go inside of my body dawg Dude, that's that's funny that you say that that sometimes i'm riding if i'm really concentrating i can feel like my dick shrinking Oh

I think it's like a defense mechanism. Oh, yeah, your dick's like you might be doing this. I'm not Oh, yeah, they got her really really scared. They got oh, he's up there looming Now do you feel like he's totally confident at this point? He's just kind of this is first show I mean, it's just he's just got to do it. You got to be confident if you're not confident It's like that's where you're gonna. It's gonna go wrong. You have to have 100 belief in yourself. Jesus. I could never do that I've never done that dude Yeah, he's got it. He goes too far too nearly dies

Oh, yeah, you see like just catching the very bottom Bro, that was lucky. That was really close. Do you think he made it that close on purpose or not? That was an accident. That was he he did not want to do that. He didn't want to go far because like If he went a meter more, oh, yeah, that's bad news bears. Yeah Like you're saying you got to come in where there's enough of that. Yeah, if you don't catch the the transition. Yeah, then you're Pancaking. Yeah, do you feel pretty proud of yourself a lot of times? Are you able to feel that kind of stuff? um Yeah, when I when I achieve something that I've really wanted to do for a long time

I'll feel that but that's just like that's one problem that I have is just it's like under the necks It's like you it's hard to sit and smell the roses when you just I'm just so passionate about it And it's like why stop when I don't have to or when I am able to just keep going just It's hard for me to sit back and go. Whoa sick. I'm rad. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and maybe because I think at some point in some ways there's not a ton of value in it I think there's value in like having appreciation for what you're doing and like recognizing it Yeah, but yeah to sit there and just smell the roses, you know, you got to keep watering them too. So it's like Um, I'll just always find that kind of interesting. Uh, is there a trick or something you have your eyes kind of set on?

Is there like a new template or a new like mode or something you're trying that you see yourself maybe being able to Like a new type of ramp. Is there things that you think of sometimes that you Well, obviously it'd be so cool to do something like that like something out there and just different not just a new variation of a trick You know, but there's tricks that I have that I on my trick list that I want to do that are like Going to be that really next level like I want to do I really want to do a triple backflip 360 So like so three flips with a with a spin in it now when okay?

So say you're doing that when do you start to incorporate the spin? So about I wouldn't nearly do it at the very start, but it's going to be so I would do like a A flip with a 180 turn and then a flip with a 180 turn and then the last one would just be straight Ah, I see so you would do a flip and one and then flip one and then just straight. Ah interesting Yeah, um when you guys go out on some of these tours Is it is the partying pretty good? Who parties better like people on the on the on the nitro circus tour or australians in general? do you think Probably um, I mean australian is probably so hard, but I feel like everywhere the party is pretty hard like america

He's given pretty wild like he's reached a point where he's just going like go mad But I think on tour it's so insane because we're all like super passionate You know, it's it's everyone is like at the pinnacle of their sport the action sports So they're like You know, they're like the boss skate like if you went to a skate park There's that one kid that's like like insane and then like if you handpick like the best ones Join them into a group like a circus and that's what you get like we all are like Can't have adhd I guess well and we're all just super passionate

So so is there a lot of partying as much as or do you hear stories that they used to be more parting? Because with comedy you always hear stories like people were doing cocaine right here And now people are doing their taxes. You know I'm saying it's just like gotten the hell of fucking lame, dude Yeah, it's it's changed a lot for us too because I'm the youngest on tour so and I'm 27 so Yeah, and you but it used to be like everyone else is 20s like in their 20s 20 in their 30s, but now they all have families and like kids So it's like mellowed out a lot But in the way that's a good thing and a bad thing because we're all like

Smarter-wiser doing making the right decisions, you know, you're not getting drunk and then potentially like riding the next day Hungover and hurting yourself. Yeah, but there's guys on tour that literally will just Drink into oblivion and then wake up and just triple back for it and like like it's nothing like you have the rock star Dude's still doing that and At moments, that's the rock stars still there like yeah few drinks seeing everyone's kind of a rock star again Is that your vibe really or no? Yeah Yes, and no like I definitely love to have fun go out and like party and I kind of few drinks at the laugh factory last last night But it would have been weird for me to like go party and then go do a show because I

I have a younger following too, and I want to be 100% like when I do a show I feel like a lot of people I'm representing scootering. I'm representing action sports to like families and kids Just the term I'm representing scootering is so insane It's so great though, man It's so great to think of something that yeah, you would see some like yeah, you see some kid on and you're like, ah Fuck this kid, you know 10 years ago. Well, that's it like but then now I'm sitting here enamored by this kid You know so it's really interesting man. That was like my goal ever since the start man I was like what can I do like scootering literally gave me my life like this amazing life?

So right I give my life to scootering and like what could I do? To stop that kid at the skate park getting Grief like I did yeah, so he can just enjoy it, you know and just even though it was probably a good thing for me That's the thing that's always wonder. It's like we all we want to stop all the bullying, but fuck dude If I didn't get bullied some dude, I would not That that's how you even get any guns. Yeah, so it's interesting But I know what you're saying you want them to know that there's an outlet You want to be available for inspiration and they're always everyone's always it's always going to be there bullying's always going to be around

It's just you just got to harden yourself I got it so bad in school like and then I got it so bad at the skate park And it like almost built this hard shell around my body that is like I don't like it bounces off me right Yeah, oh dude. I'll drive any playground. I drive by dude if I'm by myself I roll down the window and yell a damn little slur or something. You know I'm saying something to get somebody fired Yeah, harden them out Something where if somebody's out there that it's like what is that about me? Oh, I better get my shit together You got to drop a little something

Um What is the next so say you took a scooter and you made it cool What is something else that's kind of shitty that you could take and make it fucking awesome, bro And if you guys have ideas in there too, Chris, let us know. What is the next thing that ryan could take? That is it's like a challenge Hypothetically not shitty and I shouldn't shouldn't say that man. That's kind of an offensive way to say it But something that people would see I couldn't see this being a mode to become Amazing. Yeah

Wonder what else is out there I know it's kind of like um video gaming as well. That was kind of like a lot like people like what professional video game players But oh Oh, yes Dude that travel. What is that thing called? I have no clue. Chris. What is that thing suitcase scooter? Oh, yeah, bro. If you could do a something on that and then open it and take something out I mean, I'm just thinking can what if you do that thing where like sometimes people want to be cool when they're handicapped And they get that little like knee thing that little oh, yeah, yeah when they have a cast on

Yeah, it's like just use crutches. Yeah pussy, man Use some crutches, man I'm going to have to get that that'd be perfect for the the airport just cruising around Oh, dude, especially to see you on it would be legendary like what did that guy just do Did that dude just fucking do a 670 through tsa? Um, yeah, what other can you pull that back up that thing's pretty that was pretty great actually. Oh Oh that thing we talked about that. Yeah, you see these things around. What about the limes scooters like they're everywhere now and people are hurting themselves

Everybody it gets real bad fast on lines Oh, look at this. What is going on? Oh, that's definitely pull a poland They'll do anything over there what is going on The thing is this thing doesn't turn or twist you can't like you could only just spin it like this guy's doing like swirls, but That's it that looks expensive. Yeah, that looks pricey that looks like that's kind of cheating because you have to get the tricks built in But I could see that becoming something. Yeah People are taking these things and actually doing oh segway They dropped off. I guess because they were like, why do we have handlebars? We can just have the bottom part. Yeah

Like hoverboards remember those came in for ages and then Mike Tyson got like dropped Wait, is that the one that be that Justin was pushing? Probably There was like a video of Mike Tyson on Dude, he falls so hard. You got to watch it. Mike Tyson on a hoverboard right and he's looking all right and Yeah, and yeah, he gets He gets dropped. Yeah, watch

Like one of those solid pulls to look. Oh, yeah, the sweet dude. You got it Oh I've never seen that, bro You know your sport is one interesting thing that guys like, you know, I was doing this, um You know guys like People can't just come into your sport and do it. Yeah to a certain extent. That's why a lot of that's why scooters actually got grief from people because it's it's so accessible like you can You could jump on a scooter right now. I could I could get you to the skate park

You could drop in like a kid can do it so easily. So it's it's just so accessible that Like little kids just grab it and they go, you know, they have no no direction So they're at the skate park dropping in and just like getting in the way because they're just there by themselves That's all they know. They don't know what to do. They don't know the rules And that's kind of like where we get the bad rep Is because it's so accessible and kids can just do it instantly and be in the road And not be like looking out having skate park etiquette and that's kind of gave us a bad rap, but it's like You could do the same thing if if a kid only had a skateboard and

He would do the same thing like just roll around, but it's super hard It's not easy to just get a skateboard skateboard and drop in like it takes you a few weeks to To get comfortable to do something and in those weeks you get told by your friends a don't do this Don't do that. You gotta wait for this person. It's like an intersection, you know, you know, you know Yeah, uh, do you see yourself getting in anything motorized youth? Do you ever feel like that vibe? Yeah, but it's just so dangerous, man I've flipped the motorbike though. It travels just travels for strong is but It's gnarly dude that they're so heavy and it's so wild. I seen we just had last weekend um

I'm at bow bamboo. We've done like 20 shows and he fell once broke his collarbone like in one crash So it's just like instantly if you fall off a motorbike, it's like you're done Yeah, you're like gonna break something whereas I can fall off get up go try again like a hundred times Motorbike crash once have you broken a lot? I've been so lucky like compared to the guys on tour. I'm super lucky. Haven't had a surgery yet um, only fra I fractured my ankle my Both wrists, um separated my shoulders smashed my teeth out fractured my skull twice

Oh, yeah, some of that's just be an australian. Yeah. Yeah, true. 50% is probably just being australian Um, did you watch love on the spectrum? No the australian show the autism. Oh, that's I've heard about that. No, I haven't seen it yet Makes me want autism man. It makes me want to be australian. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good mix Yeah, it's it and it's a very neck and neck mix as well. Yeah, you know Um But it's such a good show man. Um I'm trying to think of any other Questions that I could think of that. I really wanted to ask you about

um Yeah, what do you feel like is like Oh, dude, they have like a lot of like uh, what is what is the babes like how much babes is out there? Do they have a lot of like kind of like They'll do a lot of the guys in a Marian girls that they meet at the track. Is it that kind of a universe? Um, it seems like kind of a Like I know it's a big world, but I know it seems like a very specific group It takes a certain person to like want to be with like an action sports athlete So I kind of like you're gonna be risking it with them like I'm sure you'd be nervous

Like I couldn't do it a chick that's into action sports like I I'm sure I could but I would be like freaking out man I can't watch a chick. That's one thing. I could watch a dude slam all day laugh at it. Yeah But a chick like falling over. I'm like no Stop, please don't do that. So, um, I can imagine like it'd be hard. But yeah, you get you get chicks coming out I think it's more the confidence thing like we're just like so confident in our ability It doesn't matter if I'm riding a scooter. They're just like this guy really likes riding his scooter and he doesn't care So that's right. That's it. Yeah, I think it's confidence of anything you'd be playing a damn kazoo, dude You know, if you're Louis Armstrong on that bitch and the ladies will show up

Um, where are there better ladies you think in the u.s. or australia if you found Or do you have a hard question? It is a hard question But do you have a do you have a type of woman you think or that you like one of the other you american or australian? No, no tight. It's just like it's like whoever is just cool, you know, like, um Australian women are a bit what like obviously work a bit crazy. So maybe I gel better with the crazier Yeah, I love australian women, man. Yeah, I always dreamed of maybe going to australia finding me a little wife or something Little quacka, you know, yeah a couple quackas um

I don't know. Did we I feel like we covered a lot. Do you feel like that right? Yeah, I think it was I think I've just been constantly talking. So that's it. Yeah, good pal, dude. Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to speak. It's good You saw the lea get up. That was cool. Was that a surprise you know? Yeah, no, I had no clue and like I had been talking to him because we obviously have the We have the nitro circus in San Bernardino and I was like, oh dude, you should tickets and he's like he was like I don't know what my one-year-old's gonna do is he gonna just like not even understand I was like just get him head like you got to get the headphones because the uh

The box is pretty loud, but if you seek to have him out, I was sick to to see him doing some stand-up. Yeah, it's cool Yeah, and congratulations on your special, dude. Oh, thanks. Yeah, it's pretty I'm definitely excited about it Yeah, um somebody just sent me a picture that a billboard in Times Square. That was pretty crazy. Yeah, that's sick Um, yeah, it's exciting man. I want to go tour back over in Australia. It's got to get some more jokes I just got to get a few more stories. Yeah, they um It's pretty hard to get there though right now. Yeah, how how how that's all the last thing I was gonna ask you is How ridiculous is it over there? Oh man? It sucks so bad and the thing the craziest thing is when I was there I was like, oh, yeah, this makes sense. Like everyone's doing it

That's the thing when you're like blinded when you don't you only see what's happening in the country You're like, oh, it's okay. We're all together. We're doing this together for a reason, you know And then they're like, oh America's so bad. There's so many cases Like it's just be careful over there. And then I literally got here. I got a good outside everyone It's like totally normal. Right and it's like maybe they make you wear a mask like here and there but I don't have to like I don't have to Quarantine for two weeks in a hotel room by myself to get into That's crazy. Did you have to do that when you left? No, so I just had to get the

Test right to get on the plane got here. Sweet. All good. Go into the world, sir Yeah, because Jim Jeffries just had a tour scheduled in Australia, right his home country, right? He goes back for two weeks. He's in his hotel. Yeah And The last day this and he's gonna start his tour right after that all the tickets are sold Yeah, they came on they said three people down the block had just gotten COVID and he has to go back to America now and his tour was cancelled Could you fucking? That would make me kill somebody

I feel like that would make me kill someone way more Man, I they've opened up a little bit in uh, certain states So I'm gonna just go chill there because I'm not I can't sit in a room for two weeks He it's like, yeah, well, it's like a prison. Oh, I can only yeah I mean even when you go to like, um, if you go to like other parts of America, it's even more and just totally normal And you're like even coming to Los Angeles seems really really Yeah, oh, I was in like Nashville and that was just so Oh, yeah, so I see. Yeah. We've got outdoors there. Yeah. Yeah

This tour have been doing baseball stadiums all outdoors. It's actually funny because the moto ramp We can't do that moto ramp indoors because they'll hit the roof Fuck what's the highest ramp that's built right now for you guys to be able to use? Um, so the ramp that the guy did the quad backflip off. I think it's like 20 foot Like that's to go forward. That's not like the air to come back down. It's like a quad flip ramp What's the safest ramp that they can you can technically use right now? The not the one that we use on tours about 16 foot off the ground could you

Could they build a 30 foot ramp if you wanted or you wouldn't be able to get to the top of it? You'd have to just go so fast But they could do it like and if someone wants to do five flips That's how it goes like if you want to do more things in the air It even though it sounds like crazier to have that big ramp It's just going to give you that more time to like get the trick done Yeah, because it's like right now you just pushed first time in the air. Oh, I see So do you want more time up there? You think yeah, you do. Yeah. I'll just stay up there. Yeah, dude

Well, when you come back down make sure to come back to the podcast man. Yeah for sure. All right, ryan. Williams, man Uh, you guys can check him out. Uh, we'll put all of his links and everything bro. Thanks so much, dude Thanks so much for having me. This is like being a dream. I've watched this podcast for so so long I think like four four or five years. I know you and I've been communicating for years, man So it's really really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate. I love australian man. And um, I think you might be our first australian guest So, oh no, except for chris lily. Yeah, yeah So but fucking pretty sweet dude. I'm pumping that. Thank you so much. Cheers man. Cheers But it's gonna take

a little time For me to set that parking brake and let myself unwind inside that lot on me