This Past Weekend - E373 Tony Hawk & Jason Ellis
Episode Date: December 29, 2021Tony Hawk is one of the most influential skateboarders of all time, an entrepreneur, and founder of the Tony Hawk Foundation. Jason Ellis is an Australian professional skateboarder, mixed martial arti...st, auto racer, and radio personality. Check out their new podcast Hawk vs Wolf: https://www.youtube.com/c/HawkvsWolf Tony Hawk and Jason Ellis join the show to talk about all things skateboarding, superstitions, stalkers, and their new podcast, Hawk vs Wolf. Find Tony Hawk IG: https://www.instagram.com/tonyhawk/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/TonyHawk Find Jason Ellis IG: https://www.instagram.com/wolfmate/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/ellismania -------------------------------------------------- New Merch: https://theovonstore.com Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour Podcastville mugs and prints available now at https://theovon.pixels.com -------------------------------------------------- Support our Sponsors: BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/THEO for 10% off your first month Truebill: https://truebill.com/THEO Don’t fall for subscription scams. Start cancelling today. Mint Mobile: https://mintmobile.com/THEO Buy any 3 month plan and get 3 months more FREE Peloton: https://onepeloton.com Try the Peloton app free for 2 months Liquid Death: https://liquiddeath.com -------------------------------------------------- Music: "Shine" - Bishop Gunn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek -------------------------------------------------- Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 525 Royal Pkwy PO Box 292634 Nashville, TN 37229 -------------------------------------------------- Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips -------------------------------------------------- Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You
Gotta do some of those Mexican shows man the Mexican shows like
What's that show with those four people Colin out in the Valley somewhere it's like two Mexican kids and a
Chinese person you know I'm talking about in a Vietnamese person
They speak English right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody speaks English. It's good
Oh, it's like something. I literally did a Mexican game show. There you go. It was pretty insane. Oh, there you go
The whole country's again, so you got to jump over a wall even but it was like it was like this giant
It's like a brother's thing that you had to throw these balls down they bounce they're hitting audience and stuff
What it was crazy, man, I want to do that. Why don't they do that here?
I want to throw giant bowls of people. It's because of the different legislation. I think you know like certain country you can
Uh, I mean the rules are definitely different on who can die a box when I was a kid
They just built giant vert ramps and put them in a fucking park in here
The only person I had giant vert ramp is some pro dude. It's got all the insurance and shit rich guys
Sorry, I didn't mean to point at you dude, and you might not have any money anymore. I don't know but
I have to sell my ramp for scraps
And wouldn't it be crazy we walk up on him in winter and he's like making firewood out of his last ramp
You know, it's sad every a really sad day. No, thanks. Here's to oh good. Oh glad man
Yeah, thank you guys for coming in man. I appreciate it dude. It's good to see you again
You know and thank you for you know whenever I was just
Really kind of catching a break in comedy you brought me onto your serious
So a couple times really that was what that because I
Hadn't already I didn't think I had a I heard you on opening Anthony
I told you and was like holy shit. This guy is the funniest guy. I've ever heard on radio
That's what how long ago it was
And I was like get him on my show and then sure enough he just you know
I'm like he didn't know it yet, but he's like an amazing. I was like you could fucking take over any
Are you saying you gave him his big break? No, not at all. I'm saying he was already you're kind of saying that
He helped him or the he helped hammer the crack. I think everybody already knew though. I don't think I was
Let me show you fucking fear of on everybody everyone like did you on the own a show wasn't it wasn't you weren't
Well, it was just opiate that point and you're but your show had a big all yours
No, you definitely given me like a a nod of confidence
It was like you and Simon Rex kind of did it at the same time and that was I think really helpful
So fuck yeah, so thanks man. I never really kind of thank you for that. Wow
Amazing what's going on? So you guys are up to this shit now, huh?
We started we started at serious XM
My show yeah, oh, okay, he got me on okay
Yeah, and then we were doing that for a while and then he went off to
Somewhat greener pastures and started being the voice of the channel
We were on most part and then I kept doing the podcast and then I was just kind of getting buried in there
Well, what do you think you were missing like when he wasn't there? Was there something you felt like you were missing?
What yeah, definitely a
Edgier comedy I would say yes, which wasn't good at the time
It was it was pretty raw and we I had a lot of I had a lot of kids listening because it was oh, yeah
It was a different show very much still skating and we were doing video games and they wanted to hear about that and play music
And then this guy would bring in him. Yeah, that's a crazy. Yeah
Crazy uncle
He's definitely like the work release uncle. Yeah, very unfiltered, but it was hilarious
but then
But then like I said, we just they just kind of fizzled out and then he would start a podcasting and I hit him up
I said, man, we should try something and so we started trying it and it kind of clicks and
It's been fun. Yeah, it feels fun. It feels fun to watch you guys. I try to think when I when I watch I feel like
Yeah, I feel like you guys have a comfort level with each other
There's a real earnestness that comes out of you a lot that I think creates this it makes you kind of be the same way
I don't know. I haven't watched a ton, but from what I've seen it's it seems like
Like a new little not like a marriage, but like a new little like okay
You know, it's spring time at the house, you know, give me a key to the ramp the other day and I I thought it was as
Just as good as an engagement ring to me
To a skate ramp to my round, okay, so yeah, is it like that you said only rich guys have their own ramps
And it also has a lock out front of it. That definitely in a warehouse
Oh, it is although someone broke in the other night
I stole some camera gear. Oh, I thought they just skated no skating. I was gonna open that too. Hey, what are you doing?
Well, he gave us a key and give me one
Somebody broke somebody broken here to actually what they stole cameras. Yeah, oh, yeah
It must be that time of year. Maybe the holidays people are looking, you know to give cameras out or sorry
Well, they they were going around the building trying to get into different doors and finally got into
The door that just happened to be by a camera that was set up. Oh, yeah, that's a game show for criminals
I feel like they just walk into a building and it's like done
Yeah, if he had gotten the other door open he would have had a
Piece of the of the loop. Oh
The loop the loop ramp
There so it would be hard to steal on a whim. I was gonna say and what would you do like if Theo stole the loop? I've gotten hurt on nothing
The first thing that you would do with the loop
I'd probably take it to Canada or Australia where people would frickin mount somebody over you could sell it for big money over there
I think but how do you mean how do you get it there? Yeah shipping? I don't know these Canada
Maybe you could drive it through in a truck. Yeah, but Australia. No, I've got Hawks loop. Can you imagine trying to?
Get the little trying to get just get rid of it. Yeah
Yeah, what's I'm saying? Hey kid you want to loop? Yeah, like hey kid you want to die? I got the device
Just just set this thing up and go down that road and you'll be dead in a minute like no problem
Yeah, bro. This path has fentanyl in it
Yeah, the suicide loop the loop just people out. Yeah, I mean, it's I did it and it was one of the most
painful
Terrifying experiences of my skateboard career. Really? Yeah, it was hard work for sure
Some people get it a little easier, but I was already on my way out doing radio and not skateboarding all the time
And he was like we're setting up the loop. I was like, well fuck if you're calling me, that's
It's a it's a prestige, you know to do the loop
I think you're done you like ten people had done it and I was like, well, this is an opportunity for me to
And all Americans all white like whites all women. Oh, who was it?
You want the demographics?
Yeah, I'm not judging. I don't
Never been asked that question. Am I the first gay guy? I'm the only I believe so. Yes. Oh, yeah
There you go
Lizzie Armato was the first female. Oh, wow, okay, and then
Fleeping Nunez did it with no legs. He he has no legs
I think no, it was so hard for us to get the speed for him
We had to build an extension on the starting ramp for him. Look at it. Is that it the actual? Yeah
It's pretty gnarly dude
This is a
Tom Sharpe up broke off here. It's like being in the dryer for a really a couple seconds. Yeah. Yeah
But you can't lose where you are
If you do that, you're dead. What do you look at when you go into line? Oh, look at the line
He's got a line in the middle of line
And you follow the line because especially if you're if you've got skateboarding in your in your background when you get to the
Upside down part you want to look back because that's what you usually do. You're going back usually turning around
Oh, yeah, so you got to not look back and keep looking at this line and it just doesn't seem
Right, so you you want to do that little lean and then that makes you do this twisty thing and you eat shit
Well, I'm just trying to say because I never and now it's a lot more diverse when I was young
It was like white dudes who had been who were about to fight their stepfather were
The ones who are skateboarding. Yeah, I hated those guys. Yeah. Yeah, I got that's how that's how I
Talk about Jason. I mean, okay, maybe I grew up with those guys
I had to like, you know, I got approval after many years of hard work and you know humiliation and and
You know, they just they destroy you and call you a pile of shit and throw your board in the trash
One time I made checkers. I told this story, but I made checkers inside checkers with the grip tape on the board
So it took like oh couple days. Oh, yeah
Yeah, a lot of school doing that. It had to be perfect and I'm not very like good with like art and shit
My I got big dumb hands. So it took forever. So I got checkers in checkers on this board
Oh, and I show up like Christian a storyboard with checkers in checkers. I'm like get the I'm the fucking
Sickest dude. Yeah out here and I get on the ramp and this dude that's now my friend sack Reynolds
He goes, what the fuck is that shit and just grabs it off me and throws it in the trash can. Oh, and
But I just grabbed it out of the trash can and kept skating. Oh, that's how it goes. It happened all the time
Yeah, and now they're nice to me
Well, he took like we had your dears. Yeah, 30 years now. It's like man. How's it looking good in the States, Jayce?
Yeah, send us a t-shirt. I'm like, I'm not sending you shit
Jason get stuffed
We had
I'm trying to think if we had a lot of skateboarding area. We had one dude jumped off the show needs one time on a board and
Hit what's a showney? It's a show needs. It's like a place where you get food. It's like a Denny's
Yeah, it's like a Denny's but it's off the roof. Yeah, he can't see the roof yet
But he hit a Buick a saber and can you pull up a saber daddy wait while it was moving? No, no still a saber
Yeah, wait, he didn't see not even properly. I think he didn't plan ahead really
Yeah, I think some people think when you're going off a roof, you're gonna be able to jump
But I think the angle I see he just went straight down eliminates that he had a maroon one too
That's a good look
Yeah, not a bag. I mean it was a cool
But anyway, yeah, he like shattered his neck or whatever which I didn't think you could shatter
Like your next already kind of in like different pieces
I feel like so it's like to shut, you know, but they said he shattered his neck
But he wore a neck brace forever after that. It's an interesting theory on your neck
Unchatterable. Yeah, they don't shatter because there's pieces in there
That's an interesting theory. Oh, yeah, that's all I'm saying. They're already perforated. Yeah, I mean, we're not doctors on this side of the table
You can shatter you can shatter pretty much anything
It doesn't seem like I
experience
Shattering seems like you like a hard word to use for the net
But what's a what's what is something that most people what's the first thing most people break doing skateboarding?
Anchor rest. Yeah
Yeah whipping off put your hand
It's so scary wheeled things have always super super scary
I mean, I don't like I don't even like being in a car if it's a neutral and it's off
Like I don't do well on anything that has like loose just like has the ability to be loose under it
You know, you're committed just gonna take off. I think I just don't trust the
Anything gravity just me in between me and the earth. I probably don't even trust gravity. I'm very non-committal
What about this right here? This is a fellow sent something in is this decent up there?
Jason and Tony
Louis here from Australia razor blades, baby. What just want to know is
razor blades
What's where's my razor blades if you say rise right rise up lights real fast
Rise up lights. It sounds like razor blades in Australian. Okay, rise up lights
razor blades, no rise up lights
Yeah, but I'm saying is the Australian thing. Are you going straight to it? Yeah?
You do razor blades and I'll do go rise up lights razor blades rise up lights razor blades
Razor blades razor blades razor blades. Let's just keep doing that and then that's a podcast
Razor blades razor blades rise up lights sick. Yeah
Anyway, so obviously
Jason and Tony
Louis here from Australia razor blades, baby
Just want to know what you boys are Tony and Jason. What's the Nali's injury you guys have seen in skateboarding?
Whether it be professional or just down at the skate park on the ramp. Anyway, cheers fellas gang gang, baby
Cheers, baby. That guy's from another country
That happens sometimes
Well, I guess now with all the new rules seen
Have people died
Well, just be honest people have died. Yes, not and I'm not Baron. I have not been witness to that
No, thankfully
Um, but I I well the worst that I the worst I had was broken pelvis and
And I fractured my skull and broke my thumb all at the same time
Do it big right fuck you're half a mummy at that point
But I was but I was knocked out so it wasn't like I was witnessing all this
Yeah, it makes it easier, right? What's that? Yeah a little bit, but I want to say like the worst the worst thing you say
I saw dude break his arm here and then his arm was just dangling and likes dangling behind him
Yeah, like it was just flopping around that was pretty heavy
I smashed my I fractured my wrist. I broke my wrist and I popped my elbow out of the back of my arm
It's like compound fracture
When I was 16 and I was getting I was about to get on a plane to go back to Melbourne
And I was like we'll just skate the skate park near the airport and then I fell and that thing came out
That was
It was good that I was young because I just went into shock and then they gave they give you a whistle in Australia
You suck on a whistle for what if you need help? No, it's got heroin in it. No, uh, yeah
What? Yeah, whatever. It's got whatever morphine or whatever, you know, oh boy
Oh, that's what I got the juice and you suck on the you suck. He's like suck on the whistle and then you realize when you suck on it
That it's it's got heroin in it and then you suck that fucker. Yeah
And then they take the whistle off you like now give me the whistle back
Yeah, I'd be a crossing guard in a half hour dope
Just be bringing a fucking lord across the street son whistles are good. Yeah, that's insane. I know that dope whistle over there, man
Yeah, I've never heard of that. Yeah
Well, that's the thing. I think it seems like you guys is dynamic is that you're gonna somehow
You it seemed like you would know so much, but you're gonna learn a lot from him. Oh, yeah
I just don't know if it's good or not. No, I gotta filter which parts. Yeah. Yeah, it's always it's always enlightening
And it's always entertaining. Yeah
Um, yeah, and we we try to keep it
Family-ish friendly. Yeah. Yeah, I got a Jason Ellis show to get real. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so yeah
There's been a couple times where his stories went crossed over. What's it? Hey, okay
You would understand like every now and then at a certain place where it might not be might not be super appropriate to
Go deep into your own head because you're pretty gross, you know
Yeah, I mean, I've been involved in some stuff. That's probably not
You know stuff you would talk about with someone's mom or something. I just met them sure
Right, so I feel like we all have yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so that's more his brand. Oh, yeah. Yeah
He definitely my penis is involved in a lot. Yeah
So I keep that out of the hawk versus wolf. Yeah
Yeah, it almost seems like your penis is like you're its parole officer. That's what it sounds like a lot of times
No, I do argue with it a lot
Yeah, and sometimes it feels like it's missed a court date or two. It kind of seems like
He's in trouble. He's in trouble right now. Actually
What um Jason, I know that you love uh MMA and uh
And skateboarding. I know that that's part of your uh your past and fighting is something you just love to do
You know, uh competition. Is there uh, was there ever uh, uh
Skateboarder or somebody like a ramp man or something that you uh
Uh, that you would
Wouldn't want to tangle with or that was like somebody who was like a real bad ass
That was like, what's this dude doing skating this guy should be fighting. I never wanted to fight
I don't like fighting. I don't like the
The the argument or where people are heated. I'm not into that at all
I've never been into that like if I have to defend myself because I've been in bad situations. So
Instinctually I if you're gonna corner me then I'm gonna go because I know what the other
The other side of that is like if you don't defend yourself you just get shit kicked and I'm not gonna let that happen ever again
Yeah, so there's that but I don't like
The fight fight thing and in skateboarding people are either really short or maybe tall and skinny
But it's not a good it doesn't help to be kind of bulky
Um, so it's kind of like comedy. All right, you know with the holidays. I find sometimes I get distract discouraged
And I'll you know, some people even feel depressed during the holidays and
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Bulkies, you know, see a lot of bulky comics. The only real one is Joe Rogan, but he's a bit short
Yeah, that's good point. He's a bit short because in skateboarding
He you can be a bit bulky and be his height if you're like six foot and bulky skateboards barely hold me
Oh, like they the tail flexes out if I get a little too thick
I can't go high and you can't really get
Fluid style either
If you were if you were bigger and bulkier, you know, it would just it would feel more
Forced and there was one other guy tom boil. Ooh, what happened to him? He passed away recently actually. Oh, everybody's dying
I know, but uh, he was an amazing skateboarder and
he was like he was
He was pretty thick dude. Yeah, I guess have there ever well. Hey, Jamie foyer is like breaking all the rules
Who's that? Jamie foyer street skater. Oh, who's that? He's bigger and he's he's he's one of the best
Jamie you guys kids you bring him up brother foie foie foie. Oh
Um, he's amazing like that. You see him. He just like that's not a typical skater
Who's that grayhound out there? Who's that thick baddie that's out there?
They got any big dogs that get out on the board. There's a guy that tried to drop in my ramp
Yeah, you can show you that if you want to see something heavy literally heavy. Yeah put. Oh, here's Jamie foie
Jamie foie's insane. He's he's seriously like he's one of the best skaters right now
This guy, yeah, he's not jacked. No, no, it's a jack just bigger like he's a bigger dude. There we go
Oh, yeah, he's a little thick, huh?
Look at that
Oh, yeah, well, he's like
He's like he's slinging bread skateboarding for I know for a fact if you're bigger. It's the fall. That's hard. Yeah
Oh, they come hard to fall
I'd be good at skateboarding if I wasn't such a pussy dude. I'd be good at it. I bet
So there's a hand feet coordination
I think I would have really if I could have really focused on it
It seems like it takes a lot of real focus in a strange way
Yeah, I don't know. What's the best element to be a skateboarder like what is the thing?
Oh
Never given up really because you got to do it over and over again
Sometimes it seems impossible, but if you go enough all of a sudden you can but there's so many different elements too
That that you could be good at so you can kind of focus in on while I'm really good at
Doing these types of flip tricks
Yeah, and and getting them into grinds and stuff and that can just be your whole brand
Yeah, and then other people are like they just fly they fly out of our amps
And that's their thing and everyone loves to see them fly and that's good enough right
Um, some people have a little bit of all of it, but then some are like highlight
You know if you look at nige houston just precision technical
Like beyond any olympian. Wow. He looks like a video game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the board when it's not with him
Is still with him. Oh, wow. Yeah
Sometimes you see people like that that starts to change the way that things are done like patrick my home's kind of changes
Is the quarterback position you're like, oh, I didn't think that this could even be played differently
And then it seems like they he just plays the game
differently or at a speed
That looks totally new for some reason whether it's faster or slower than what's been done. What about that thick dog?
Who is the big guy?
He's known as big boy. Yeah
And he used to be a skater. He used to go up skating in orange county
And uh, he was making waves because he does a lot of weightlifting stuff. He's he's big. Oh, he's like yeah
Yeah, crazy like five people. He looks like five people
But but he started to he started to
Rekindle a big jumpsuit. You know what I mean? You got five guys and just put one head at the top of it
That's what he looks like but he started to rekindle his he looks like a meeting
Corporate me in a pajama suit
He had a clip that went viral doing a kick flip or something or an ollie and everyone was just like
And I was like, uh, you know and you could tell that he already had the skate skills
But he's gotten big. Yeah, and then he so then he started to hit me up like man. I want to jump in on your ramp and I was like
Yeah, you might want to work your way up to it
Yeah, because everything that I saw I'm riding was maybe four to five feet my ramps 14 feet
But you let him in. Yep. Yeah
It's on him. Yeah
And uh, he came in he came in hot
He was not going to take the time to figure it out. He just wanted to go. Yeah, boy when you think I think you life short
Find that you gotta go quick. Hmm. Interesting. Just look up tony hawk big boy. You got him. Let's see him. Oh, damn
Yeah, dude, somebody is that tattooed at somebody graffiti on him?
He had a nap and somebody graffitied him
Yeah, somebody just tagged him up. Yeah, there you go. He fell asleep in arizona for an hour
So watch him. He would not
Hesitate or take direction. He just said I'm going. I'm committing
What? Oh, what?
That was awesome. Oh, that was a tease. That's how they do it. Wow. They did a great job. You too, man
Oh
I feel taken advantage. I almost felt like
We fell for it. So this is this is warm-up. Uh-huh that ramps about six feet
Not a good idea
And I kept telling him like you got it. You gotta bend your knees more because you straighten his straighten his legs too much
Yeah, he looks like the singer on a cruise line kind of
Yeah, he looks like somebody was waiting bar on a cruise. And so when he got to the top of the vert ramp
I said, all right, you just gotta bend your knees, you know, get connect to the wall first and he's like, all right
So just commit. I said, that's not what I said. Oh, yeah. Yeah at all
Oh, yeah, it's dude. Oh, damn boy. Yeah, he's not going hard. Oh, yeah, but it's fun to watch though
That's that's Ryan checkler helping him out. Really? Yeah. Oh, here we go. He had everybody there
Oh
Is it okay to laugh in y'all's world? Oh, yeah. No. Oh, yeah, dude
I like every time
Because you thought you didn't knock out, right? Yeah. Oh, I mean, that's what it looks like
That's usually when people get knocked out a lot of times they go stiff
And so I thought that was it but he made some crazy sounds
That was brave because you got that gingerbread bill. He built like that little gingerbread man
Yeah, you know, he looks like a gingerbread man. They just got out of San Quentin
But he was he was super cool about it and he's still hit me up since then like, yo man
I want to come back for it. So is it is that like your it's almost like that's your vignan
Like if somebody drops him on your ramp, is it kind of have that sort of feel to it?
Like is it like all dudes trying to get in there
It sounds you know I'm saying it's the only guy like nobody it'll be it'll be
I would come down every time if you were like, hey, I got like five guys that are all trying to come down
I'll be there in a minute. Nobody. I mean there are there are a handful of people that come and that's their directive and
For whatever reason I'll let them go
But it's more that people want to come to skate my ramp because they skate right the guy that owns liquid death
He came. Oh, yeah
And he's talking and I just met him and he's like, yeah, we're talking and he's like we're going out into the ramp
I'm like you're gonna skate. I didn't know he could skate he could skate got a mini ramp in liquid death now
And he can skate
Wow, but skating a mini ramp and skating his ramp is two different things two different animals
And we're talking chitchat and I'm skating and I guess he's on the deck and I'm like if you're on the deck you can skate
Yeah, there's you don't get the deck the top of the ramp. Yeah
So he's up there hanging out and then I guess he dropped in and I didn't I wasn't watching
I figured everybody could drop in no big deal
So I see out of the corner of my eye right when he drops in
And if he would have been so fucked. Oh, but he he made it. Yeah, so I
It was scary. It was scary. I just every time I see I saw him the other day at liquid death
And I was like dude that drop in like I can't forget it was like a trick in itself because he should have died
What if he drowned always think what if the liquid death got drowned and it was just like
What and everybody literally? Yeah, and that's how he went out. Oh, he drowned. I thought he meant like
Jerran, ena can of liquid death. I've thought about at least probably five six times. I bet
Dude, because I think because that segway dude went off that mountain member
He was stunting he bought the segways and he bought the company and then he fucking did one right off a mountain. No, he didn't
Yeah, he did right. How do you segway off a mountain?
Bro, it's because you don't know enough about the vert fam. Wow, you know, you got to drop in different. Did I think right?
Yes, but how many dudes are in your DMs be like, hey, let me get up in that ramp, you know
That's what I feel like it would be all day. But it's like I said
It's more it's most of people that know how to skate ramps. Okay. It's not it's not just a big influx of people like I want to jump in on that thing
Yeah, let me hit that. Yeah, and and I've seen it go. Yeah, let me see a couple brothers be like, hey, let me smash
You would smash into the flat bottom
They would know if they if you go there like you could talk but then when you go there and stand on the top of it
Yeah, you know
You don't just you don't let me you don't let anybody just no one's gonna just go they go on have it
You won't go you're the slummo guys
Um, no, so the youtube show these guys do crazy stuff in high definition slummo like really high speed cameras
And they came and they wanted to shoot me doing a trick
Which we did and then one of the hosts was like, hey, I want to want to try this and
Then not became the thing clearly was not ready for it and took a slam worse than big boy
Like his feet missed the board when he went in you just dove to the bottom. Oh, there you go
Is that is that it? Oh these goons would get boiled bro. Look at these clowns
So the guy on the right, oh what they're gonna do this bro, I think this might be the one where I'm
I'm it's they did they did two segments when they came so
Are they really wearing those like for a joke or are they no that's their that's their vibe. Okay. Oh, bro
I've had I've cleared stronger things out of my throat than these dudes
So this is this this video was just my trick
So it's like super high speed. I did a heel flip melon body varial
Of course, dude. Um, you love that trick right there. Uh, of course, bro
My cousin had a lobotomy six
67 but anyway, that dude fell
And he um, wow, that's cool. That dude fell and
Broke his wrist. Oh, sorry, mate. And when he hit
He farted so bad. Yeah
No way I never we came to check on him. We're like
He didn't shit his pants. I I don't know. He might have shit
He was so stunned. Yeah, he was so stunned that his homie said we've shit happens. You uh, oh, yeah, dude
I have shit. I mean, oh, yeah, I'm way off way less than this
Oh, yes, dude. Come on. You can just tell this is not gonna work
right
Like don't do it, dude
He's oh, man. He's just he knows he's already stalled too long. He knows
Oh
And he broke his wrist and he farted the whole time he was fighting
Could you hear it or not? No, no when we walked over to it was like, oh
Dude, he's shit. He's bad. That's the last healthy part of him being like, I'm out of this
Clown
That's the ghost of his manliness flying out of his ass, bro. You fucking cooked out like that, dude
He's all his heart and courage is in his pants right now. They're like
Insane
He looked like he was pretty scared before he went in
Well, it was it was you know, the whole thing was supposed to be just my trick and then this became
the highlight of the whole day
I love how the other dude in the lab coat doesn't even fucking help him, bro
You can't dress like a doctor and not do doctor shit a little at least cpr your homie, though
Right. Yeah, at least suck on his face for a second if I can bring him back to life, dude
They got to try it again. They need to do a rebuttal or whatever it's he didn't come back
Did anybody ever think you're daniel tosh ever?
No, somewhere. No
Tom green I used to get tom green
When tom green show was big on mtv people would think I was tom green. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, um
So what else is that thinking about dude? Uh
Who do people think you look like?
Uh, I used to get tom brady when I was a little bit younger and then now nobody really just you
Yeah, just me or just they don't know who I am
right
And what's up? This is uh, josh from Toronto. I'm just wondering uh, this is a question for all of you guys
uh, whether you had
Any superstitions, um that you needed to do before
Um performing, um, especially early on when there was low stakes
um
Sometimes our anxiety makes us want to be in control and superstitions are a way of controlling things
Uh in the periphery of uncontrollable situations. I don't know if that's true. I made that up on the spot
Okay, um, thank you for your time gang gang
Damn dude
We have what he's getting deep. He could be smart
Are you superstitious? Is that what the question was? Yeah, I used to have I guess I had little things I did but
Like I put on my pads on left side first. Yeah
I used to be crazy superstitious and then when I got let go
Uh from serious
I decided that all my uh, it didn't work. Yeah, that all my superstition things obviously didn't fucking work
So because I wouldn't walk on cracks on the street. I used to dodge cracks for like
10 years
And then and then I just decided when I got when I got fired that I was none of them matters
I was gonna sip on cracks. I go underneath fucking I go underneath
Ladders and shit. Everybody can eat a dick. I hate it
Yeah, I think it's funny. I think when you are younger you do think like maybe things like that matter like way in the balance
Like little things like I'm a race to swallow on different sides of my mouth for about maybe 15 years, you know
Like I would swallow like even it out. Yeah, just even it out just to like keep the world even
It was almost like a way of just like trying to keep the world even so the shit didn't get too haywire
It was like maybe a control met a mechanism
um
Do you guys ever have any stalkers you guys are having a good experience with stalkers?
I feel like both you guys have had at least one
I don't have
Minor, I I'm not famous. I like like I come on stalk me. I would love attention. I'm a fucking egotistical idiot
Everybody fucking stalks me. I think they stalk me and then I go. Hey, you want to get coffee and they're like, what the fuck dude?
You're pretty pretty intense. I think I would have stalked Tony Hawk
Uh, I I in the 80s
In the 80s, there was a girl that paid the front desk to tell her which room I was in so that she could get a room next to
Mine nice
Um, and then and then what but uh, nothing happened
She did knock on my door one time and then
Like it was sometime through the weekend
She knocked on my door and then she did come in for a little bit nothing nothing happened
But all of a sudden this slamming on the door came
And I guess it was her boyfriend. Oh that guy that knew the whole
Scoop of what she was up to
I'm just I'm just like I I didn't even know that this girl had already done this. I found this out later, right?
and then
the next day
Uh, I'm getting the elevator and the dude I didn't know it was him because I hadn't seen him and y'all got in this
He gets in the elevator and he looks at me and he's got a cast on
No, and why what happened to me? He's like, sorry about slamming your door last night broke my wrist. Oh
Idiot. I was overreacting. I'm sorry. I was like and he apologized. Yeah. Well, I guess he was drunk at the time
I feel sorry for that guy. That was that was an odd one. Yeah, I was just sort of okay
Then I feel like the would yell what you got you got one. I kind of had that then
Yeah, because girls are trying to sleep with me and usually they just can and it's
Fine, but one time at a alice mania that had this fight called the strip fight where
Every 30 seconds we decide who won the 30 seconds
And uh, the the person that loses takes an item of clothes
Clothing off until they're down to a G string and pasties. So I just go regardless. I go you lost you lost you lost you lost
Right now. You're both naked fight
Yeah, so then they fight and that's kind of the thing. So one of the people, you know DM me that they're that I get fighters
You're not allowed to know how to fight. That's the whole point. You're supposed to
I'm terrified. What is it like to fight and I go, I'll hook you up in a fight where you get a real fight
But you're not gonna get really hurt. Okay, Joe Rogan might disagree, but it's a couple of shots
And if you look like you're in trouble, we just call it. We don't let you like bleed really cook out
Yeah, it can't be grilling them out. Right. So this girl's nice enough. She does the fight awesome fight. She looks great
She's got a what I assume is a boyfriend, but it's like
Everyone has a uh, you're allowed to bring a coach or whatever or just a plus one
So she's got a man over there helping out a little leader
Yeah, so there's a after party and I got this big room with all this bullshit at the hard rock
And she's hanging out and she's
Asking if she can sleep with me and I'm who's she asking me and I go I go well, Katie
My wife I go she wants to sleep with me. She's like yeah, whatever and I go
What about this guy? Who's this guy? She gets just my coach
And I go oh well then okay, no problem
And then I and then she's hanging out and I look at him and I'm like he is
Obviously bummed and I go hey, man. What's what's going on? You're right over there. He's okay. You know, she's just you know
It's been going out with the with with each other for like some amount of years and I'm like what we broke up
I'm like, but you're I'm like, I'm so out of this. You guys need to
Spend time together go get him a little gift certificate or something. I can't play that game
But yeah every now and then somebody just tries rain check. Yeah, get him. Well. I feel like star
Because some of my friends always get stalkers and I'm like damn I can't get I think stalkers is more of a sex thing
If you're good at if you do good sex
Then I think you get a stalker, you know, you mean somebody you've already had sex with and it was so good that they just keep
I feel like that's the only way would make sense like if you kind of are okay at sex
I don't think anybody's you know smashing through your windows to get back and hang out with you. Yeah
I thought stalkers you'd never
a little more
Mentally unstable and it's not but something has to spark that stalk. You got a you got to like that
Well, a lot of times they think that whatever whatever art you're doing whatever
Whatever content you're creating is speaking directly to them
I mean that that seems like the more scary stalker not
Hey, I like you and I'm trying to get to you
I
Well, I guess I had a girl who left her vax card on my window
And they said she wrote check me for coven on there. Charlotte was her name
But I never had anybody like my friends get the girls are jumping over the fence or yelling
They're throwing stuff through the windows or showing up at their like you're talking about groupie is not stalkers
I don't know these are ones. They've had to call the cops
Wow
Not stalkers. Yeah, so really
But I think they got to be sexually motivated. I don't think anybody's fucking
Smashing through your living room window to fucking come watch an episode of uh dexter new blood or something
You know I'm saying like I think you got to have like a real
You got to have fused them up with some cop. It's an interesting theory. I think
Because now I feel like any guy that's like a super fan
Kind of wants to have sex with me. It's getting to that point. It feels like a lot of
Oh, some fans would let you would let you have sex with their males even
Who's do you think somebody's super famous like a guy? Because I always said if let's say if I wasn't uh part gay
I would I would like blow david bowie
Before he died. Yeah. Yeah your pre-death. Yeah, no, I wouldn't say that would make me gay
Would you act out blowing him even though he's deceased with that? Well, like ghost blowing? Yeah, no
I feel like it's close. I feel like kissing people and sucking dick is a gay look. We're killing time here
Dude who is standing on the ramp just like this for a while. That's what we're doing, bro. We're just trying not to freaking
Shit
Um, what else is something fun that I want to ask you guys. Here's a beautiful question right here. So
by some hard young male
Hey boys
greetings from uh
Vista had a quick question
For jason here, and I've been listening to you since I was a little kid
Look back my mom's Honda Civic ever since the days of your beef with LL Cool J
Was funny like jason. I was wondering
You know someone who's growing up around with a family with a lot of addiction, you know, I uh
I was curious because you're now very open about your sexuality at this point
And I've always wondered, you know, do you think that that that drugs were more of an opportunity for you to unlock something
That was always inside of you
Or do you feel like, you know, kind of the extremes of your sexuality have been
part of lusting after a different high
And without drugs, do you think that you'd be the same person that that you are sober now today?
Or do you think that was always kind of a part of you?
um
And that's a lot right. Let's just answer the first one. Yeah
um
I don't think i'm bi because I did right did drugs. I think I think I definitely did when I did drugs that helped me
uh
Do things that I was scared to do for sure when it came to that
You think there's a man because there's a lot of drug drug induced homosexuality in my area
Yeah, that's what I thought I was because I did so many drugs. I was like you just
You're not gay. You just like did like eight
Molly pills and you'll let anybody blow you that doesn't make you gay. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, because a lot of you see a lot of gay men meet up behind the rest area in our town and they would do drugs and then
Get involved in the sexual activity behind the rest area and people would actually shoot these potato guns at them. They had like, uh
Uh, because it was a river there was a river right there and these two guys across the river would you know
Not if they were not doesn't sound like the spot to go to like hook up just to break them up
Yeah, I was like a warning shot. Yeah, it was all warning shots
But um, it was like yeah, because I guess they were just alarmed if there was like drug induced homosexuality
That's what I think people were alarmed at. I mean people potty, man
But yeah, that's what maybe they're just trying to be uninhibited. Maybe that's gonna say just trying to
You know to get get away from their inhibitions and just like oh
Yeah, that was a different time when that was going on
But now yeah, I think like yeah, because drugs will just make you a little more brave
I think almost to do anything sometimes. Yeah, and especially if you're really clowned out, dude
You're fucking animals trying to eat your own ass my uncle
He's got a point my uncle used to tell us go look in your ass, bro
And when we'd fucking be gone for like 40 minutes, dude trying to look at our own ass, you know
It's a weird thing. I remember the first time I shaved my ass and was like trying to find my hole in the mirror
And I was like I was like wow, I feel slightly like less confident in myself
By looking at myself from this angle. Oh, yeah, but eventually you get you know, because that's that's your ass
You better live with it, you know
Staring in your ass. I think it does weaken you
Yeah, see I see I think it I think it does at first right but for me because at first I felt the same thing
No, it's the same as when my
It is it is own your ass
Own your hole own your hole. Yeah, baby. Yeah, I believe in my hole. I love that man own your hole, man
We're going all the way
I could always trust it, you know
It's right behind me
Yeah, when there was only one set of footsteps in the sand there was really
My hole as well. Yeah, praise god. I'm back
um
What else could I ask you guys about oh
Did you guys used to do demos and stuff like that when y'all were coming up?
Like when you guys were escaped you guys ever go do demos at different shops?
I'm sure you that you probably did Tony. Did you do them as well?
Oh, you did
And what was some of that life like like was it awesome at that time?
Did you guys were you guys already kind of like popular in that space? Was it like, uh
Was it pretty yeah, just what was that like? I guess done it in every version. So I've done them where
No one knew about skating cared about skating and then they put a half pipe up in a parking lot and people would take
What the hell is that thing?
Yeah, yeah, and then uh
Done it where it was wild and thousands of people and stadiums. Yeah stadium type stuff and then um
Then when things kind of went south again, especially in the early 90s
Uh, we were doing demos in parking lots of skate shops or sporting goods stores and they would just
Put stuff up. Yeah. So here's a box and here's a jump ramp
Go ahead. Yeah, and then
You know 50 people are watching and we're trying to get we're trying to get like 300 bucks from the shops that we can
I was doing the same thing. It's almost like open mics or comedy kind of yeah
Yeah, but we were on tour so we we did have to survive open mic is more humiliating as a guy that's trying to do stand-up
It is way. It's way harder
Mentally like skateboarding even when you're because I've sucked at skateboarding and been in a demo in a contest
I know what it's like to be the shit guy on the ramp
I don't I don't even know where I stand in comedy. I don't give a shit if everyone came just to see me
I'm shitting myself. Yeah, I don't know what it is man. I can talk in front of thousands of people
But stand up. I've never been more nervous in my fucking life. Wow
And I it's that's what me that's why I'm attracted to it because I'm trying to figure out what that is
I had the greatest I'm only done a little bit
But I did a set with ryan sickler and it was 500 people in a proper place
And I'm like, I've never done a proper place and I right before I went out
I was like no to self my knee is shaking. I'm like, why is your knee shaking?
Are you cold? Like I was like, I think I am but I might be getting hypothermia and I'm like, everyone else has got a t-shirt on
What is your deal?
I'm like, I'm like I after I was done. I'm like, yeah cool. Wow, but what the fuck was that?
I've had fights. I fought Shane common. I was like, man, this is a bad idea. I feel real nervous
That was way more nerve-racking
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Is there a different kind of nerves then can let's let can we think about that for a second because
Yeah, what are those different nerves was one nerves different than the other like the nerves of going
Like does it feel different? I'm just trying to think while I'm talking well
It's nerves of pain because if you don't do the trick right you're gonna get really hurt. So that's a that's a that's a nerve
That's a nerve. I have a skateboarding right, but if we go do demos
There are things that we know we're capable of that are tried and true that are like
Sort of playing the hits. So we're gonna go there. I'm more excited no matter what I'm gonna
Leave here and people are gonna think I'm good at skateboard right pretty good skateboarding
But when he's doing something new like comedy
He doesn't know there's no standard set for him
but was there is there something that you get nervous at that make that like
I'm just trying to equate like if I'm on a skateboard ramp. I can feel that right now
I get real scared of heights being higher than I should be you know for myself and so
That fear gets I feel like it's in my stomach more and in my body
That's definitely my body whereas if I'm going out to do comedy or doing
Something like karaoke makes me so nervous, right? That's I'm trying to think of where that fear is
It's not I guess it's more like you can't sing right? Yeah, and it's more in my ego
I feel like my a lot of my fear from there comes
But what about when you started comedy? Were you really nervous when you started?
Yeah, I think I was pretty yeah, I was I was definitely nervous
Okay, so there was a was there a period of time where every time before you went up you were like fuck
I hope this works out. Yeah, okay good. Yeah, but there there are still times when I go in front of a crowd
and it's a new ramp or whatever
and
I am so nervous because I don't have the confidence that maybe it's my ramp or because the crowds way bigger and
Louder than I imagined and all of a sudden my body won't work the way that
Yeah, that it should and and I'm bailing stuff that I can do in my sleep
And that's when I have to reassess and and try to do even exercises where it's like come on
Just just snap into being normal see his demo is different than because I've done demos with him. Yeah, and there's
20 of us sometimes all like the best dudes in the world
But it's like five thousand people
Four and a half thousand people are looking at everything he does. Oh, yeah, and you can tell, you know, like we'll drop in and it's like
You feel every so I feel like the pressure because I'm there and it's like, oh that guy tony hoax friends
All right, I mean or he fucking sucks either way you didn't care who am I?
But not him you all you all know, but I guess sometimes that gets the best of me, right?
Um, usually I can I can overcome it, but sometimes it does and it doesn't last long
I've never never done the demo where I felt like I couldn't figure it out the whole time
did you uh
Did at any point like like did your
Was reporting your career your ego started to get big like you felt that going on in your world
Like I've noticed that I my own life at times your ego because it's kind of like this
Plant that gets watered by not even you watering it, you know, it's this thing that grows sometimes
Did you ever have any uh, I would say
More in the in the like mid to late 80s when all of a sudden we were thrust into
stardom
And in in a thing that we never imagined we'd be famous at because no one was famous at it
And then all of a sudden we're traveling the world and there's crowds and then that that definitely gets to you at when you're at
Such an impressionable impressionable formative age. So when I'm like 18 19 traveling the world thousands of people autographs
You know parties girls everything and it was just like at some point
I think that I took it for granted. Yeah, and maybe even expected it
And then it was all taken away from me because skating died
and now
Now that I get to live through another wave of success
I don't take any of her granted and I'm right just so thankful that I even get paid to do it at all
Um, so I'm glad I went through that. Yeah, when like
Like with ego, do you think it like um, it's you think it's just something that happens to people because that's an interesting experience
That you've had where you got to like, you know, you just got to have
You know popularity and stuff like that. I feel like the people who have the the worst egos are the ones that
Get into it for those motivations
They get into it for fame or fortune and then when they finally get it they just expect it
and
Maybe that'll last for a little bit, but at some point people are over you if you're walking around like you deserve all of it
They had a plan. It was a secret plan to be an asshole the whole time. Oh
Yeah, that's what it looks like. Yeah, because some people are just like I knew you
Before you were that right and now
We're still on the same fucking planet dude with the same skin on
And you're acting like all of a sudden you're made of fucking diamonds, but you do see those same those same people
Lose their motivation and they don't keep their skills up because it was never there probably to begin with
It was it was there
But but they the motivation was just to get to this point of celebrity and when they get to that point
They don't they're not motivated to get better
And that's when they fall off. And so in my case, I just want to keep getting better at skating
Thank god that was there for you then just because it's like that kind of stuff can happen
You know, it's like sometimes I think it happens and people don't realize it two years later
You know, like what was even going on if you realize it at the time you'd probably stop
Like what do you mean?
Like if you're being an egotistical shithead and you're not appreciating where you are
And you realize it right there and then then you would hopefully he would stop or
Make a like get on the right track or try to get on the right track. I've done it. I did it with the radio
Skateboarding I was famous not as famous as him but famous enough to be an asshole and fly around the world and be like
Ah, it was nothing. I wasn't like on purpose mean, but I was definitely
like not appreciative of
The people and all the the life that I was living just I know thank you's just fucking give me the shit
Give me the money
And then the radio the same thing
Yeah, I didn't is accidental got real big all of a sudden people are all up my ass
And then I'm straight back into that thing running everybody. I know what I'm doing
I'm fucking nobody knows anything
And then had to you know go that's when I started going to therapy and shit because I couldn't have a relationship
Yeah, like I could be the boss of a show, but nobody would date me. Oh, dude. That's where I'm at
Really? Yeah, I could nobody will date you because you what do you snap on people or something?
No people can date me. I just have trouble like with commitment and stuff like that
Like I've just been and I've just been I've just had so much anger and I don't know when I'm angry at
That that is I know exactly what that is being super angry and not knowing why
That was the thing that made me go because I was
I had everything
I was like I have everything that I'd ever want like you're on fire and all you do is fucking talk about dicks
And then you go home and do whatever you want like this is
No, and what was your other job? I'll escape water. Yeah, like come on
I can't get a better life and you're just
Or you know, I really just want to listen to some dark metal by myself and think about pulling things apart like what's wrong with you, dude
Oh, I'll go get those chickens at the store and just take them apart
Wait, are they cooked? Huh? Oh, yeah, they're cooked. They're pre-cooked. Yeah. Do you eat it when you pull it apart?
Or do you just leave it creep, bro?
But I'll put on what do you mean you buy a chicken to pull it apart
I'll put on some Elliott Smith or some sad music and just fucking carve that bitch up
Do you eat it as well or are you just carving? I'll have a little sometimes but sometimes it's more for the sport of it
Honestly, you know, it's like yes, no, I just gotta let it's just like I just want yeah
I don't know. I just get it. I've just been angry and man, it's been it has been not fun, you know
Do I ask him that is a unique um outlet never heard of someone pulling apart chickens. It's not a good
I feel like you could do better as an escape. Yeah, it's an interest
I think when you're in a city and you don't you don't have you know, you it's like more of a
You know, it's if you're an outside, you know, you're out there's a place you could go do something get a good
You know do a weapon or something like that. I would do that, huh?
Didn't you do jiu-jitsu? Yeah, I'll do it sometimes. It's been hard when I'm in LA. It's tough and when I'm touring it's tough
So it's hard to like really lock in the stuff. That's one hard thing. It's about touring
Um, what are you doing tour? You could bring a jiu-jitsu guy and mats and roll every day in your room
But that is ridiculous. Yeah, as I'm saying it
Shut up
That's some rich guy shit
He can act like a bit he's fucking
Dude, get the fuck out of here. I'm not fucking rich. What come on. Get the fuck
I will never be based on the reaction of my kids that I was doing your show. Yeah, you got something
I don't know what it is, dude. You're holding something. Your kids have obviously been misled by a prominent male in their life
Okay
No, I mean you're
I would never be rich. Yeah, my my oldest son Riley
Um, is not here. My stepkids are here Miles and Calvin. Um, but my oldest son Riley said you're doing the ovan
And then sent me a photo of the shirt. He's wearing which is your shirt today. That happened
That's pretty cool and shit. Come on. That made my day actually
That's not making you so you at least made some world sees off that
Purchase are you off that shirt? Yeah, it's a good shirt, man
Your podcasts are huge. That's my brother's favorite shirt. Yeah, man. I mean, I do fine. I get I just will never feel rich
I don't know. I was it more like you would just never say it because it sounds wrong
Yeah, I just never would never want to be rich, dude. That fucking sounds retarded. I feel like
Being some rich guy. I'm gonna get a briefcase. I'm gonna fucking. Why do you have to get a briefcase?
You gotta do I'm not doing all of that shit, dude. Can you just have to work in administration?
Huh? Yeah, but I'm just not like, you know
I'm not doing that, bro. So do you give your money to charity or something? I could we get way decent amount, you know, but
But yeah, I mean, I guess maybe I'll have some money, but I'll hopefully never be rich like in my head
You know, I think I always just looked at look. I despised rich people. I think so. I think I have some issues with it probably, you know
but um
What else dude, so what about um a good product you guys ever have a good product here's a question right here from some white
I thought there was gonna be something on the end of that just why this guy knows bro. Look at him
And then I'm a big fan of both of you, but I have a question for Tony back in 1999
You landed the 900 on the halfpipe. I don't know if it's the only one that's been landed, but
Regardless of all that the post interview you said, uh
It was the best day of your life
my question is
Is there a trick that surpassed the 900?
After that or is that still the best day of your life and I feel a couple days ago. I've been rocking the mullet first haircut
Ever I've been getting my mom to cut my hair. Oh, yeah for my whole life
But that's the first professional cut and I chose a mullet. So shout out to you gang gang gang baby grow it out, baby
God hang on the back
Um, uh, that's a good question. Yes, but well
Well, after I did 900 at the X games, then a few other people learned it. Um, within the same year and then, uh
Tom char did a 1080
About 10 years later. Did it hurt your feelings when he did it?
No
I was stuck. He's not that guy
Yeah, I was stuck and there was no way I was ever gonna try that
I for what I went through with 900s and even after I made it and some of the slams I took
After I could do it
Knowing that I'd have to try to spin another rotation. No
Um, and then uh, let's see 1080 then mitchie bruska did a 1080
Then mitchie bruska went on to do a 1260. So that is
That is the record. No one has done a 1260
On mega, right mega three and a half spins in the air on the mega ramp too. You know what that is? No
It's like a 30 foot quarter pipe twice as big as a boat ramp. Yeah, so you get more air time
Like 18 feet high enough man enough is enough
Enough. Yeah, but you didn't say but when it went to but also that that thing sometimes comes back to bite me
It was saying it was a great greatest day of my life
I was I was overcome with emotion. It's supposed to be when your kids are born, right? Did you get yeah? Well, also my
My uh, my wife at the time and our newborn was right there
That didn't I wasn't a good
Man the 900 was a really big deal. But also there there was I tried to defend it, which was not a good idea too
Um, I meant to say it's the greatest day of my career
For the greatest day of my skating career, but also there was a part of me that was like, well, you know what?
I've been trying 900s for about 10 years
I haven't been trying to have kids for 10 years
You know what I mean? Yeah, that's a good call man. It was one of the greatest days for skateboarding's life
Like that's how big of a deal it was. Well, I heard about it
And I know anything about skateboarding. All right, you know, I could tell I can believe in it
I could tell when he did it that people that didn't skate were like, this is a big deal
Usually it's just us that care, you know, right? Yeah. I mean when I learned 720s
It was in 1985 on a backyard ramp in Stockholm, Sweden. There were two people there
No one cared. Yeah, you know, I was like, oh, that was cool new spin
Yeah, but then that shit flew around the world
And you know because it was no internet, but I heard you did that
Yeah, but you were you were you were also
In the community and it's a very small community of skateboarding
But that one because it was on espn and because they showed it live
Um, it just kind of went viral when also. Yeah, I mean the video game too when that popped me
It was like that video game was almost like it was almost like a tiktok video now
Like everybody can make a video game and in 30 seconds on their phone, you know
It's like but back then there was only a few videos that got there was like
You know so a video game was almost just like a youtube video now in a way, you know
It was like a way to see something different. You know, there wasn't that many there was television
Movie or video game. There wasn't anything else. It's like the hip-hop era the the the gold
What is it the gold era where it's like if you're a hip-hop if you're a big hip-hop artist in the late 80s 90s
Then you're still a hip-hop artist today. It's very hard to be from another generation and still be solid
Like he but the video game
It's a video game that's because there's games that were invented 10 years ago that my kid plays now. It's got respect
But there's not many of those. It's always like ever-changing. Tony Hawk's video game seems like
My kid doesn't he knows what's cool. That's usually the first thing people say to me now who
Grew up, you know knowing my name or or or recognize me if someone recognized me that happened today
Video games that happened the parking lot actually
Uh, just I went to a restaurant before I got here and when I got in my car
This dude like jumped out of his car stopped his car jumped out. He's like, yo, man
And then he saw my skateboard. He's like this. Yeah, he's like, he's like, let me get a clip do a trick
And so I grabbed the skateboard and went down the parking garage
I did I did because I was going to the restaurant and I was gonna skate there anyway, but I was just like, yeah
Catch me as I'm leaving
um, what a guy do uh
What um
Was there any product you guys ever pushed that was kind of crazy like was ever a product that got presented to you guys
That was like kind of bananas like uh that you guys ever did we sell out? Are you saying like kid rock
Kid rock tells this story about like he got involved with this company called bad ass beer, right?
And so he like made like a meal like and I'm paraphrasing beer, right?
And I think it's what it was it was zumbia, right?
But the second batch of it was fucking horrible. They just cooked it too long or something
But they still put it out, right?
Which was that was not the best move. I don't think but so it just cannibalize the whole thing everybody's like
This fucking beer is is is is shit, you know, so
um
I worked with a company that that I didn't realize it was in the 80s that I didn't realize I had signed away
my rights to them
And I had no idea what that meant. I was I was whatever 19 or something and
And uh, they just started making products with my name on it and then I finally came to them
I was like you guys this sucks. You can't do this. They're like actually we can yeah, you know
It was more it was more like it's like a cooking robe. It was uh
It was a velcro wallet, which was fine
With um, basically they stole the vision streetwear logo and it just said tony hawk gear. They ripped off two people
Yeah, and I just said you guys this is vision streetwear. Yeah
And they're like, yeah, well, it's the tri bar logos are hot right now
Like yeah, but this is vision streetwear and then you're putting my name on it. So it looks like I'm ripping off vision streetwear
And I'm a skate. I'm a skater. They're a skate brand like and I don't ride for them
Yeah, and they were just like no and while I was talking to this dude. This is true story while I was talking to this dude
Behind him on his shelf is a roll of toilet paper with the same logo
He put vision streetwear on toilet tony hawk gear you tony hawk toilet paper. Yeah, and I was like
What is that?
And he goes he goes oh that oh, that's one of our one of our retailers said uh
Said uh, yeah, man, we'll take whatever you got with tony hawk's name
You can put toilet paper on there and it'll sell so we made that form
Wow
And I was like, dude, I'm I want out of here and I had I actually paid to get out of my contract. Damn
Them t hawk shit tickets. I'd take a box of them, bro
I keep a box of them on deck you should keep that in your uh in your glove box
We had what was it in one time? They had this thing. It was like hard. It was like kind of hard condoms or whatever
I think and it was like
It was condoms were already a little harder than regular. So it was like you mean hotter like the material
Yeah, they help you out. Yes. You'd have to get as hard built in by agra. Oh, what?
It's got like a spine in it. Yeah, it's got like a little
It was like called chance condoms or something. I don't know. Can you pull it up chance condoms or backbone?
Way back boat makes more sense. But it was like, yeah, it was like we'll we'll meet you halfway or something
Was there a thing? I don't know what it was. Wait, you were sponsored by it?
We did it for a couple of yeah, we did it for like four like maybe four
Ad reads or something. It was like, yeah, do you ever put one on partially hard condoms? Maybe holy no way
I'd go partially hard condoms, man
No, you guys must have the most insane
Search history and just go to images. I think let's see some pics here. You got to judge by it by the jpeg on this
Little aidesy at the top scoot down a little
Wow, I'm gonna have to get a hold of some if we still have any at the
At the other place, man. But yeah, we have partially hard. What else did we have?
That was bizarre
Mmm, did you did you deny anything? Uh, we denied some stuff like some sexual stuff alcohol. We don't do
Uh
I don't know if there's been anything else. I've seen a lot of merch people come to my show. I'm like
I'm like, I've never we've never made that. Yeah, I I denied a tour
There was a tour that went went on you probably heard about in Malaysia where it was like an extreme sports tour
Yeah, and it was uh, it was skateboarding and BMX and I maybe inlining
Cool. Um, and it was at a time when there was not it was before x games were were big and the whole tour was sponsored by Benson Hedges
Sweet cigarettes grandpa cigarettes and there were some skaters that went that were
Like sober skaters
Smoking didn't smoke didn't drink and went to and did the tour sponsored by Benson Hedges
I was like you guys okay, how could
And they started smoking probably no they didn't but I was I was shocked because I I chose not to do it
I was like, I don't want to go to a I don't want to have a sponsor. Yeah drop in
A tobacco sponsored skate tour and it was going to be uh, it was going to be 18 and over too because it's sponsored by tobacco
So I was like, so there's always kids can't see a skate
And so it just didn't feel right to me. So I I did not and whatever. I'm not trying to say I'm holier than that
I was just rubbing. No, look, we did a lot of irony about all of that was it was right at the time when all those crazy fires
Were happening in Malaysia
And so the second half of the tour got cancelled because of smoke
Uh, no, I mean sorry, but I saw a thick sister fight a monkey
But for a bag of chips in Malaysia one time we're on a field trip
Wait, it was the thing that you could watch she did it more than once. No monkeys are gnarly
Yeah, we went and they I got to go later on and they come and steal your food. Yeah
They're gnarly and there was this check out there
Yeah, with a big bag of ruffles on her and this these motherfuckers came through son
Who shows up to that area with a big bag of ruffles like you're asking for
Oh, I this girl I went with Riley and rather than I were there's this area where all these monkeys are known to and there was
This little snack thing. So we got chips as soon as we got them. They're just like
And they take the whole bag look at this beat up this white dude right here
Monkeys love fucking chips, bro
Uh
What's that
No, the thingy's holdings are some kind of weird cucumber. No, they're crazy. They got everything dude. They're wild, bro
I got a photo of one of them
Giving me like a look like he's gonna bite me. Yeah
Were you at the birth of your children? We did you ever go in the room during childbirth?
That's crazy
What that's crazy. My dad said he went and watched but uh looked at cars when I was getting born
But he also said that uh, you know
Your mom got pregnant, you know, I thought about running but I stayed
So it wasn't it was a different different time. Yeah now
You can't not be there for the baby. That's like, uh, unless you're divorced or in the middle of divorce
You getting big like I can't even a queasy. Okay. I just don't know
I'm wondering if it's the same type of nerves if you get if you're dropping in on a big ramp or something
It's pretty scary. I think it's a different experience, but it is scary
It's scary. Yeah, I feel like if you had more than one then it's less scary
Is the second one and if you have more than one it happens real fast. Oh really? Yeah. Oh the second one comes out quicker
Oh, that first one's that real rocker, huh? Yeah
That first one's that real traps and smash her dog. Yeah, I destroyed my mom one time and she was real angry
She pulled her showed up because she had like stretch marks that were real bad
Uh-huh and there and uh, she's look what you did to me and I remember I thought they were stitches
It looked like a shark attack. I was like
I'm so sorry because apparently I was I was 11 pounds and I was a lazy baby
So I was like, I'm chilling and they're like trying to grab on my big fat leg and I was like, uh, uh, like a beached whale
Just beat up in a badge
Dude, I saw I was in New York one time and somebody jumped off a building right and took in their life
And uh, so I was just kind of meandering around just kind of seeing what was going on
And this lady's like, you know what and I was like, I was like, what happened
She's like, you want her to know and I was like, yeah, I want to know and then she pulled up her dress, right?
and uh
Said that the guy jumped off the building and landed in her nice
So it was these feet hanging out or no, she just said that and so I'm like this lady's crazy, right?
Like but just what a crazy thing to think right? She was she was bonkers
Seem like she just wanted to show you or pussy
Yeah, baby
But I fell for it. Yeah
Who doesn't you know, who doesn't that would get me that would get me time and time again. I don't know how many times
Ah, you got me. Yeah
Let's again
The old caught a guy in my vagina trek up. Yeah, it works every time man
Uh, we got one or two more questions, man, and then we'll get y'all on your way
Here's some guy from the future. It was a deal. So I had a question for Jason. Mr. Jason Ellis
Um, since you were a pro fighter, what would be who's a pro fighter of yours either past or present time?
That you wish you shared the ring with
Love you, brother
Gang gang
I don't think it's a good idea that everybody I think who's really cool in fighting that I would
Share the every time I share the ring with someone who I think is really cool at fighting
I usually get beat up pretty bad. Really? Yeah, it's kind of what I want to do
So because it's like the full experience of what's it like to spar with like Keith Jardin
And I don't want Keith Jardin to not punch me that will be like
Not really sparring. Right. So yeah, I've done that with a few of those people but to fight fight with one of those people
I I'm not I'm not insane. I don't want to die, you know, like I fight because it's fun, but I don't want to like have a
Full death wish fight. Yeah, and I feel like that's what would happen if it was all the people that I think is
Is really I sparred Dominic Cruz once before a fight and he like really he like
Uh after it because he staggered me like he caught me really good because he's obviously
A thousand times better and that was just going to happen and he caught me and and I got staggered and I kept fighting and then afterwards
He said to me, uh, you know when I rocked you there and you kept going
That's all you're gonna need for this fight. Like I know you're ready for this fight
I know you can win this fight because you showed me the thing that I was the only question
And I had is what what happens when you get rocked and I thought
Well, you actually knew you were going to concuss me
And to see how I was gonna react. I appreciate the help
But it was also like you guys are insane and I'm only when he said pro fighter. I'm not a pro
I've had a I've had a couple pro fights, but I'm not a pro fighter. I know what a pro fighter is
That's why I don't need to say the idea that he did hit you and you go down and like now you don't have it
Yeah, yeah
Work out for you. Yeah, was he gonna tell me that when I woke up or something or
Yeah, I don't know how that was just testing you but those yeah, man, not for you guys
I guess that would that be a sign in itself not for you guy. Um, we got one more question that came in right here actually
What's up fellas, this is tim from Windsor, Ontario, canada
Tony, I know you put out a board that had your blood in the paint
I was wondering if you're gonna be putting out any other products with your blood in it
And Jason if you could put out a product with your blood in it, what product would you put out?
Thanks fellas
That's an awesome question
No, but uh, actually that that all happened with liquid death and the reason it happened was because they were talking about doing some sort of unique promotion
And they presented that idea to me
And I grew up a fan of kiss in the 70s. Oh, yeah. Yeah kiss did that in comic books in Marvel comics
They they made a kiss comic book and all the members of the band
Put their blood into the ink vat
Wow, and I thought that was one of the coolest things ever
And so there's people are saying like I'd say tanning and whatever
Somehow I was copying Lil Nas X, but I didn't even know about his thing when I did it
Yeah, um, but that's what that was the motivation
And then when we went to do it it caused a big
Ruckus because well for one some people thought it was weird gross evil
Awesome, and then other people thought that it was a copy of Lil Nas X
And then well people have done it forever. Well, you're saying it's like, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying that was that was my motivation. So to answer this question. No, no more blood
No more would you go play as me throw something in there?
I'm about to like shoot blood loads into meat pies and tacos
I feel like signature Jason Ellis meat pies with a little bit of blood come in there
For the for the community because you gotta get edgy, you know like what am I gonna do like come in
What if there's a resale blood toys like it's ridiculous. I gotta come in heavy. Yeah
blood guitar or you know me some like blood like a bumper bar for trucks
A good recipe or a toilet toilet seat with blood. Oh, there you go. It was it was hard to find
a
Skateboard screening company that would do it. Really? Yeah. Well, some people thought what it was this, uh, satin or something
Yeah, uh, and then well, I mean other just people. Yeah, but but the the company is like the screening companies
They just were like, I don't want to deal with blood
Right, you know, I got a bunch of wamps, right?
That's a little blood. We're all blood man. Yeah, you know
Yeah, but during the time I get it like during the time COVID just like
Yeah, here's some plasma mix it up. That's dog. Whatever these days. Who knows
My wife's into that stuff. Is she really? Oh jeepers. I get nervous a little bit answer
Because you only have a certain amount of blood in you. That's what's interesting
You know, what's weird is how when you lose some blood that you make more blood inside. I'm like, where's that come from?
I don't know how to magnets work, you know
Jesus Christ makes the blood. I mean, who else does who else is gonna stay up all night and make your blood?
Prometheus. Oh, okay. Well, whatever you want to call him, dude. I know he has a fucking couple screen names
I'm just saying you ain't got a beard or shit. It's more of a big really giant jack bold guy more
I'm not he look his IG handle could be prometheus for sure. I'm not sure. He's not white. That's well. He's mixed probably
Um, anything else we got? I know we got uh, oh, oh, this is my last question
What kind of guests are you guys gonna have uh on I want to come back on and uh and be a guest sometime?
Yeah, dude, we'll have you on anytime you want. Yeah. Oh, you want to try and skate?
Oh, I don't know just on the bottom not drop in. Oh, yeah, yeah, dude. I'll skate straight across the bottom into like a like a
Yeah, I can already tell the breeze
Of sorts like a fucking ski lift
Yeah, he wants a harness. Yeah, I want to give on a horse. Yeah
I just wait. There's a horse. He told me you're skating. I just need some help brother. Yeah, we'll give you help
I'm not bringing a fucking harness for you. You can hold my hand if you want
What it's not like that. Let's say my dick my hand two different things
Yeah, but I wear a glove if it makes a more head draw. Yeah, but you'll put the glove on your dick. I know you
I know you. It's a gateway. You'd be like, that's a weird hand. It's already got one finger
Damn, why is this hand uh have a hard semi hard condom already on?
Um, uh, we have had guests. We've had mostly skaters. Yeah skater. We had Jack Black. Oh, I didn't know that
We had Poobies who's the newest um jackass member and he talked about his shark attack, which was fascinating and frightening
didn't uh
uh
fucking
tiger belly
Yeah, he said he would oh bobby bobby said he would come down. Yeah huge. Um, but and we we I don't know when this is airing
But we just did Rodney molland and that's gonna come out soon and that was pretty amazing
Yeah, you know he is but he's kind of the godfather of modern skateboarding. Uh-huh. It's great. He's the guy. He's the guy the inventing kflips
Wow
And he just flips and he'll flips and he still his story is
It's the most insane story of any human life. Is it really he's right now
Still skateboarding at night in the dark
He only goes 55 and he goes at midnight and skates till five in the morning
And then he goes home and goes to sleep and then when he lived in london because these girlfriends there working
I was like, doesn't it rain there? And he goes, yeah, I bring a wet board and I'm like, what's a wet board?
There's like a board that's like waterlogged and I just skate in the rain
And I'm like, do you bring like a rain jacket? He's like, no, I just take my shirt off
So at mid at four in the morning you can catch Rodney molland in london
Doing skateboard tricks by himself for hours. Damn still
That's cool. The skate community is very excited that we got Rodney on the show because Rodney does not do very many interviews at all
That's awesome, man. Well, congratulations, dude
I'm really excited to see what you guys do with it
And it seemed like it's kind of meant to be that you guys had started out and kind of done something and then
A lot of
Relationships even work or not or hard to you know, especially in work or hard to bring back together
You know, sometimes it doesn't happen. So yeah to to to run it back. I think it's pretty cool. Kind of gives it a new power
It's awesome, man. I've never had more fun. It's not a job, you know, yeah
It's like I get to talk to my come down. That's cool. Yeah, dude. I'm gonna come down. We'll ask you questions
Yeah, I'd love to man and bring the rest of your kids
I make no mistake. They'll be there. Oh, yeah, really?
Well, these guys these guys are in college. I have another one that's in college in colorado
Another one lives in florida. Damn. He's out of college. That would be rich, bro. They have all them kids, dog
He's a busy dick, right? Yeah, boy
Damn
Well
Uh, no, it was a pleasure to meet you and it was a pleasure to meet you out. I love everything. You got a busy dick
All right. Good to see you guys. Look these things never in well, man
These things never in well, man
It's like it. It's like a first marriage, man. These things just are what they are, you know
She's not a fan of the clothes. I'm glad they don't go away mad. Just go away
No stalkers. This is our new podcast. No stalkers. Uh, and thank you guys, man
And uh, yeah, I'd love to come on man. Let's come on in february. Hopefully if you guys will have me
Yep, awesome. Thanks. Cheers, man
Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be
cornerstone
Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can feel it
in my bones
But it's gonna take a little time
For me to set that parking brake and let myself on one
Shine that light on me
I'll sit and tell you about stories
Shine on me
And I will find a song. I will sing it just for you
And I've been moving way too fast on the runaway train with a heavy load of my past
And these girls that I've been robbed know they want something that they're damn they're gone
And I guess now they just weren't built to last