This Past Weekend - E377 Marlon "Chito" Vera

Episode Date: January 24, 2022

Marlon “Chito” Vera is an Ecuadorian mixed martial artist who competes in the Ultimate Fighting Championship where he is currently ranked 8th in the bantamweight division.  In this episode Theo and Marlon discuss UFC 270, the Ecuadorian military, being a father, and his path to the belt.  Find Marlon Vera: https://www.instagram.com/chitoveraufc/ This episode was recorded at Howie Mandel’s studio in Los Angeles. Thank you Howie! ------------------------------------------------- BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/THEO Get 10% off your first month Manscaped: https://www.manscaped.com/THEO Get 20% off + Free Shipping DraftKings: https://www.draftkings.com/ Get 56 to 1 odds on any NFL team when you use promo code THEO ------------------------------------------------- Music: "Shine" - Bishop Gunn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek ------------------------------------------------- Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [e-mail] Hit the Hotline: [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 525 Royal Pkwy PO Box 292634 Nashville, TN 37229 ------------------------------------------------- Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://bit.ly/theo-von Clips Channel: https://bit.ly/TheoVonClips ------------------------------------------------- Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reinerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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uh May 6th and Tulsa may 7th in Los Angeles Today's guest is a wonderful man and um, and he is the number eight ranked ufc bantam weight fighter He's a fighting man and and a family man. He's a he's a lot of types of man and um, he is the pride of ecuador Uh, the country of ecuador and of america as well Uh, I'm very grateful for his time today. It is mr. Marlon cheeto vera

Oh Dude, thanks for coming in man. Thank you for having brother. Yeah, bro. You're so exciting man I feel like you're like one of the most exciting guys to be like Whenever I watch you I almost feel like I need to go for a run or something because I feel like my energy gets Just watching you like my energy gets up, you know I've I got pretty high energy dude. Like I when I get to the catch for me It's not about

Just winning the fight. I want to you It's like I'm a performer, you know, it's like a movie for me. I want to go in there and They just make it like Yeah, like you got in there and did enough to win. I want to take your head off clean I don't and I trained so hard for that. I don't I don't train for like Just get away with it. I trained to like clean cut Damn boy. Damn. You want to take them down? I like a lumberjack I trained that's all I do. You know what I'm saying? Like so I feel like most fighters sometimes

They think they should work when they call them to fight I trained year round. That's my job. I don't I don't have a second job I used to have a second job when when I didn't make money But now that this is my life. This is everything I do for living It's year round. Like I train Monday through Monday. There's no Seasons because we don't have a season in the gfc. Like tomorrow they can tell me like hey The top the the from from five to number four. Everybody's in your or everybody's book I can fight for the build next. I don't know what's gonna happen

Like somebody can get caught with somebody can get hurt and they call the guy that is below next So you got to be ready for me. It's like just being ready. Like my only job is to fight Well, I'm ready to fight at any moment. Wow Do um, you said you had a another job at one point. What was that other job you had? Dude, it was some fucking awful job. Um, it was it was like like kind of like work for the city hall It was like a government governmental stuff And I was like animal catching or something. I wish dude, that would be nice. My shirt was like sitting on a boot and

And it was like a window and everybody brings papers like legal stuff Like a bunch of lawyers coming in and now people that put a I don't know. Let's see you stole my card. You bring the paper saying that the the cop report and My job was to take the paper and I'm putting it in specific folders like crime I don't know small the smaller crime small crime mystery stuff whatever from from from something huge to something small And my job was used to like grab a paper and put in a folder and these people was like, hey, it's been the third time What the fuck like is your phone like Bitch, I could pay like 300 dollars a month like my job is to grab the paper and put in here

Like if you have an issue go inside and go talk to I don't know to Where the fuck lost here like yes, somebody I'm nobody here and Wow, my job was the shittiest job But I sort of got I will write it clean the floors Then do that because every day Somebody was mad because they're they're Their stuff wasn't being processed And they will tell me to fuck off or fuck you. You don't do your own like

I'm using paper guy. I just got papers and put on and one and one day snap and I use you did snap And what happened on a man or woman the guy? I will never stop on a lady. Well, most of them. I wouldn't but once in a while maybe I'm a lover. Yeah, I'm like with the ladies all respect, you know, I can my dad teach me good manners, but yeah, this guy was like Treating me like a piece of shit And I guess he was like a like like a big time lawyer or whatever And I just when he dropped he just throw the papers and when he was leaving I was just like fuck you asshole And he walked around but he didn't knew I was a fighter Yeah, I was I was a guy trying to be in the UFC one day and he came around like what do you say?

And I was like, I was just like, dude, you know, it's not this is not your dad. Trust me. Yeah And then he just walked away basically saying I will kick your ass He wouldn't do shit But then that guy was probably friends with somebody high in the it's not a company's uh Um, just business or in a building a fancy people like rich people. Yeah, I guess and then I get kicked out in that moment You got kicked out, but you didn't hit the guy. No, I I wish I hit it because I was getting kicked out And it was I was like, but when they went when when when they kicked me I was like, thank god I just you know, I used to keep training. I was free but there was no money

So I have to go back to my dad and basically hey, I need some help like Help me and then my dad was like, okay, I'm gonna help you This is the last year I helped you. I was like 19 But I was already married. I already have a daughter. So he's like, hey, this is the last year. I'm gonna help you So to to get your fantasy gfc, whatever your dream, but When this December you're done with me and then either you work for me like no training just work for me Or you find whatever to do with your life And literally my dad put me a day like this December. You're done with me

And the gfc coming november Hey, it was it was just meant to be I Yeah, it's life when you do so much for something you will fucking get it no matter what Yeah, one of my friends used to say if he used to ask me he said if you ever worked really hard for something and not gotten it And the answer was no like if there's something I really really work for you get it you always get it It's impossible to if you don't get something If things if things don't go right in life is because either you're not doing enough or you're doing a run There's no way you don't get there if you put

Everything to get there. There will be obstacles. There will be bad days. There will be A setbacks, but if you keep on going and and you really want to make it happen It's just impossible not to happen facts. Wow. That's powerful man It is well, especially coming from a guy like you who's who's put that to the test in his own life You know, you burn that candle and lit up your own future with uh with it, you know, um, I heard you say on uh on Joe Rogan's that um There were times where you fought where you didn't even want them to pay you Yes, because you just wanted to get your name out there

100 was Is one of the like why do you think you fight like I think some people fight for different reasons This is just me. You know, some people fight. They want to be seen some people They need to win some people need to prove something Like do you do you know what it is inside of you that makes you? Yeah, I I love crazy shit like When I was a little kid

Like for example, let me start with this in in my family I would call them the normal people like my dad have a farm. He worked the farm He figured out how to make money, but regular guy. He will work In anywhere to provide for the family. I saw that as a kid my mom She she stayed at home Make sure the house is clean and nice make sure the kids me and my two my brother and my sister We're good like just just wrote normal mother sister and brother graduate. We're in college have normal jobs, you know And but when I was a kid that was just what happened to find my dad guns and play with them or

Just jumping from breaking my arm. I was just looking for to do crazy shit And when I was a little kid, I was a huge fan of like Rambo or Chuck Norris and I was like I want to be like a Navy SEAL. I want to be like a real badass But not often to my country. You go to the military network. You're fucked really We don't even have guns out there like we have but But they have more swords. Maybe yeah, maybe a couple machetes. Yeah, you know, we don't have the Navy SEALs like in here like or in here you got like and every single Division and they're all like real killers in a room. We have a small army. It's just different. It's a third world country

So if I I was smart enough to be like, okay, if I really want to do this Not in my country. I love my country to death, but it's just not for me the military the military. So I will you I will get in street fights All the time like, you know, my cousins or My brother for fun will homeless kids like hey, I give you a couple bucks and you fight my brother and for me It was a game we really get like it was an inspiring Did you lose sometimes? Yeah, I get my ass kicked a thousand times. Did you ever fight any grown man or it was just children? Um

Most were my age But you know, they live in the street. They got more experience. They got more everything I was a I was a kid from my mom would give him my the 40 my mouth those kids have to hustle for real Yeah, those kids they got a lot more like uh Huff to mouth they got a lot of disease and stuff They got a lot they got a lot and then I just like fighting like And when when I get to see pride that you've seen everything else like well That's gonna be my my life. I'm gonna become a fighter one day

Yeah, I heard you talking about that like whenever you first saw it you're like, whoa, this is a real thing and then it just beckons you but so do you think you fight because You just you just like anarchy kind of do you like the Uh insanity of it. Do you I love I love all that I love the process I love the even yesterday when I was watching the fights life. I was like I was watching I was like, this is fucking crazy like I'm an expectator to two fucking guys in a cage beating the shit of each other for money

And of course, you know, somebody wanted people want to be famous people want to advance in life You're gonna you want to meet the cool people you you thought you will never met whatever It's insane. It's like the gladiators like is it called it really is two guys fighting till death and I'm pretty mean like I'm not I'm not in there just to like okay. I want to be famous. I want to fuck you up outside the cage I will never get in the fight unless The limits are like pushed too much, but I'm not even thinking about it. I'm training all time Is there fights like is there a fight that you that you've been in where you didn't you still obviously wanted to

Where you obviously wanted to win the fight, but the respect level was different against the guy you were fighting so it kind of It maybe wasn't the same type of like I'm gonna kill this guy as much as I just want to win this match No, it's I got I keep the same energy like I fought guys like Aldo Frankeleger like Legend, you know Everybody respect them for me. That's a matter if the guy talk shit if the guy's a quiet guy If they don't want to shake hands, I got I just keep it up. I'm I'm very honest. I'm not in there to shake hands and bow to each other. I'm like, yeah the catch is luck I'm gonna make sure you're the one feeling bad afterwards. Wow, and I lost before I when I lose a fight

I can I can not sleep for months because I All I do is put everything to win, you know, it's an obsession like Because of everything that comes with it. It's the money to provide for the family My house like I'm not just fighting because it's cool. Right fucking right to fight, you know, the gift is awesome Celebrities coming around like people like when I was a kid I will look up to now. I'm friends with them is the whole entire circle is cool. Yeah, but I like fighting That's your thing. I like do you think that some fighters there's they start to lose that focus

Do you think that there's guys it starts to get too much about the ambiance? I think because it's definitely gained a lot of track like there's a lot of I mean, I was at I mean, who was there last night? I'm sure there were like I like for example in from myself like I Mike Tyson was there. Wow, like we make eye contact and he kind of like say hi and I was like fuck That's a tiger of the universe right there. I was like, holy shit. That's the devil's doberman. Yeah 100% I want to give him a hug, but he was walking fast. I was like, I'm gonna see him soon But whatever but like Johnny Knox who was there. Yeah, that's a fucking legend to the You kind of remind me of one of those guys in a wheel because they have that same thing inside of them

when I was a kid And I used to like I just called my hair yesterday. It was like almost double as yours You've had a lot of styles bring up that photo. Can you bring it up? I That photo calling I sent you I just cut like the people changing powers were for for for different accounts Yeah, dude, that's what you do with your hair. I was I changed that password to your brain Yesterday, I was like I was looking at the mirror and my wife was like don't car. You look good like that He's not about looking good. It's about being a new person

And I was like, you don't like to fucking every every two weeks and she was just laughing about it Because I really changed my hair like every Four or six months. Oh, you've had a lot of different styles. Do you have it? Colin? But going back to like what you said about Johnny Knoxville And Steve Oh Everybody used to call me Steve Oh when I was a kid really she used to come like she told like because I would do just dumb shit Here you go. This is definitely You could be you could be like a criminal who goes on the run, you know, you're hiding from the FBI

You know when I was a kid Watching the guns like the guns are movies from like New York and she was like, oh, that's a good avenue for myself I can I can be a great hitman. Yeah And that's why I know my wife liked me. He's a new guy every two months And I can make her laugh so Yeah, that might be the funniest thing anybody's ever said on this podcast that's so funny Oh, look, I believe you look at the guy at the top right. Who is that guy? That's a viking

That is a viking dangerous viking this guy on the top left. Maybe is also maybe Business he might be a businessman or like a rich grandson wealthy son of like a rich man Yes, yes. Yeah, I see that the guy in the middle on the left. Obviously is going to prison Yeah, he he was caught with some crack and some shit The guy on the right in the middle now that guy is a conquistador, huh? Conquistador. There you go Yeah Dude, I'm surprised with this picture. I never saw this one and the guy on the bottom. Is that you on the bottom right? Yeah, that was before the Aldo fight

That was before Jesus Christ, bro. That was a long time ago That looks like it's from like the prehistoric times. Yeah, I saw the the wire turned into wine. Yeah I saw that like you're from the jungle man. That's wild and dude. I can tell you there's like at least Six or seven missing here. Oh, totally. I have like fully shave head With and without beer. Well, even the one when you're on aerial helwani, you look like a guy just on a boat, you know like a guy from like a You're like that fist hippie kind of you know, like I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm gonna worry about like that's one another thing about me I I'm not worried about the way I look I go by feeling like he doesn't matter like who who I'm gonna see

Or who I'm hanging out with I don't change that like That's why I told Joe. I'm I'm a hippie. Have you always been like that? When I was a kid I guess it's different. You can't really be a kid and be a hippie kind of of course But I used to when I was a kid I used to be like cowboy boots blue jeans jean shirt But because I because you were on a farm your dad was on a farm. Yeah Yeah, like I I would be in a farm every week. And so for me was like

That was the buy for me. And I love it. Like I I still have cowboy boots. Like Like I like that, but it's kind of hard going surfing in the morning on cowboy boots It's like, yeah, I got him flip over barefoot You're in shop to the to the water with your homies and you're with jeans and boots. I'm like, bro Are you okay? You're like good day ocean. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's why it's kind of it's hard to keep it up in Cali, but They're there. They're there say for me Um, when you were watching last night, I know that's that stamina fight and the nermaga made off that guy That's a good fight. Yeah, and they say he's not related. They're related. Let's somebody's lying

These these guys are related. Yeah, you can't be the same name Yeah, and coming into the UFC right there. No, they're they're causing somebody's cousin. There's something. There's something Somebody definitely has seen somebody naked in the family. You know, yeah When you watch that fight, do you think that there was anything else that kody could have done to give himself a chance? Or do you think that there was I I'm a I'm a fucking nerd. I'm watching. I know all these guys. I watch them fight the last couple fights and Cody, I think

He tried too hard to wrestle But it's also I think like he don't it's not like you need to like to be hit But you know, some guys get hit and they turn up like for example, Brandon Moreno You can crack the motherfucker with a baseball bat and he will fire back at you Cody some and get cracking the face and he's almost like he goes into panic mode Like when he fought Jimmy Rivera, he was doing well and Jimmy Rivera line a big right hand and he was like Oh shit, let me wrestle you and then it's almost like fighting his energy I mean like as soon as I crack you and you're gonna fuck you it's like, okay

Let's I'm in a real fight, but if you crack somebody and that person is like You know what? Let's not do this. You can feel the energy. Oh you can oh a hundred percent I've been there many times and I've been here that I'm like Fuck you dude. I'm gonna make your mom cry right now Is it hard when you get hit say you take a good shot, right? And you've been pretty I mean, dude, one thing that's amazing about you. You never the only your only losses have been by decision Yeah, thank god. That's unbelievable. But is it I I credit that to my work ethic I credit that to the way I eat in and out of camp. I credit that to my recovery. I go to bed

At 9 30 10 like last night after the fight It was like 11 and everybody was like, okay time to party. Let's go to the club. I'm like, I'm not celebrating shit tonight Right, like Yeah, and you're like even more me and Moreno shared the same monitor they asked me you want to come to after party and Win lots of draw. I like him. I respect him. I'm like, yeah, but Isn't I'm we're even trying to get like I went with the fight with my coach we want to we want to start back home and I was like

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To get 10 off your first month That's right 10 off for this past weekend listeners. This podcast is sponsored by better help It's interesting. It's almost like it feels like you're in the cage even when you're not in the cage That's kind of the energy. I live like that. I live like that and I'm always thinking I I sort of got to wake up every morning thinking. I'm gonna have a tough fight coming up I don't I don't let none of this Uh cloud or every fight you get to get more known by the world. I don't let none of that come to me Like I enjoy this cool. I make money. I I get bigger fights. I get a recognition. I get to hang out with people. I love but

Fighters, I think it's the only sport. There's other ones, but I think it's the only one that you can not fuck around I know surfers that party go hard the next day. They win a hit. I know guys. I know soccer players They're fucking go crazy Doing coke doing whatever party party the next day they go yogurt. They look fucking bad diet. Whatever sugar. They look fucking great Basketball, I don't know no wonder, but I'm sure you can drink a little bit before the game Oh, I think a lot of those guys I'm friends with Blake Griffin and he said they had a guy on his team used to smoke cigarettes before the game man See fighting is too naughty to fuck around fighting is too crazy

Is you're in a cage the energy is only one against one like It's too much To risk Is there an animal that you ever see that reminds you of you like a fight like that reminds you of fighters or that like I'm a monkey. Yeah, uh, crazy Energetic monkey. You've always felt like that my whole life When I was a kid, I was really good climbing trees Like I would love to get in the top of the mango trees and just chill there. I would like sit on like on the top of

Of a root for like hours and just chill there like yeah, dude the views of fuck It's beautiful. Oh, did they have and they have do people is monkey like a food even in Ecuador? No, no We just eat cows and fucking pork. We don't fuck around. We don't eat dogs. We don't eat nothing nothing wild No, like if like if you go to the I heard like a guy used to work for me that they used to eat his necks but Fuck I think that's just more for fun in one town in Ecuador. They eat something called kui It's basically a rat. Oh, it's rat. It's like it looks like a rat to me And I've been in that town and they're like you and I I'm like, no

Oh, it's delicious. I don't give a fuck right steak takes a leisure student. I'm a stick into that I I leave the kui aside. I don't fuck around there. Yeah. Yeah, you never seen a cow in a dumpster, you know Yeah, that's the thing, you know, that's true too. Um What are we talking about? Oh, we're so we're talking about that fight Do you think that there was anything that stamina could have done to get out to get in a better situation there? I think when he hit the single It was almost like he don't hit the single to take him down It was more to don't get hit and that's why probably it was so easy to sing the joke

And let's be also honest. Those russian guys came pretty prepared They're like a necktie, bro. They this this new magamate specific have a really good spinning wheel kick So like he hit him he started fight with two hard ones like the moment somebody do that to you I saw he get her a little bit and he kind of like was like fuck You throw that to to me. I'm in your fate I'm like, I'm gonna try to take your head off right away because it's energy like if somebody hit you that hard and you kind of like Don't do nothing about it. You let them get a step ahead. Let them get a step ahead So, no, I do see what you're saying. Like, I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, like, uh

But I know what you're saying like I always wonder. Yeah What the energy is like in there because we just see the fight, you know It's hard to get an idea of what that mono we mono like it's a conditioning Like you have to pretend sometimes you have to almost like you have to keep this force field up Even if there's something that hurt. Do you have to like keep an energy right there? I'm gonna say it's okay to be her like we're not invisible. We're we got We're not meant for fighting but once you decide that you're gonna be your life The moment you get her you gotta either go for a walk

You gotta either step on the gas But you cannot just try to avoid the fight because your opponent will notice that it's It's almost like you can see the colors like like like more to come but you know when you get hit goes down It's almost like you can sense that and Wow, I'm really good at least with that. I can I can tell where my opponent It's ready to die. Like it's it's a hard fucking guy or it's a guy that is kind of like, you know what You can take me out today. I'm gonna leave another day. Wow, you do can tell that because You can be winning the fight and the other guy

Lend one and then the guy that is winning kind of wobble. You can see how that thing shifts like whoop completely moved and That's when you have to like even when you hurt you you have to Learn how to fight the worst thing is when somebody gets hurt. It starts swinging. I'm like, oh protect yourself before you start swinging Yeah, but uh, you know, not everybody gotta Get the brain pretty focused at the moment. Most people is fit, but How many people is actually training their minds to be ready ready when especially when they're in Real turmoil when they're really pained out. Yeah, like I've been hurt before I've been hurt like

In the head in the body. I mean like somebody throw a low kick and I feel my knees like Completely dead and I'm like you gotta figure it out. You gotta make sure You figure it out and you can only do that if you're prepared to be there like Some people I see some people don't really train them for a family. Why are you doing this? Yeah, go do something else Right. They want to get your ass kicked in front of the whole world Just because you're a fucking lazy fuck Who was the best fighter you ever trained with that didn't train that hard? Do you think because you've trained with some interesting cats, man? Yeah, I I've been I shared a match with

Really high level people I think All the good guys I trained with They they they all have a pretty Sad mentality of like this is it for me like I'm not I'm not going to in and now after is powering like right and honestly with me If you are a person that you're not trying to be on top of your game It's almost like I stop hanging out with you like I don't I don't I don't do it in a mean way

But I'm like if you're not willing to be better and I leave the people around you I'm just not interested in you like I just really You just want to get better. I just want to get better in everything life Like you be be a better person be nice to people be kind, you know, you can be a world champion And if you treat like shut everybody, I don't want to hang out with you. I don't want to be around that shit because it's like Even if I'm not like that and I let you be like that I'm part of it. So In more in all senses like I just want to be around people that

That is happy and he's just doing something to be better like that Because yeah, because that is that'll only elevate you. Wow. That's only a little bit like I don't I don't want to waste my time Like even if you are a famous person and you're a piece of shit. I'm like I don't want to be part of that. Yeah, this is not worth it. There's no reward on that. So For me, it's it's more about that than anything else When you look at like where you're at now with fighting and you look at um um Your division is there

Is there a fight that kind of tempts you is there a fight like I know people talk about crews people talk about O'Malley people talk about um Who's up there sandhagans in your division, isn't he? Oh, I love I think I think uh, that was a fight to make I get offered sandhaggin february 19 Many band and it never happened. I definitely don't think he He run away from the fight. He's a he's a solid fighter, but I think he's hurt or something like that So he may need more time. He just had that big for he had a big fight against yon. Yeah, that was a great fight That was a great fight, but maybe he needs surgery. I don't know but

When they offered me that it didn't took me like a minute to say like you send the contract and then that never happened so I don't want to waste time. I'm ready to go right. Do you feel like you get enough fights and in Yeah, I fight three three times a year normally this past year I did twice, but when you get to the point like you're fighting like edgar all those guys you You can't fight six times a year. You're fighting the top guys. You have to just wait for the top guys Right because there's guys that they're not ranked it when I wasn't ranked The guys in the top 10 don't want to fight me. There's no reward and I get it. It's a business. So I don't

I don't cry about it in near end even when I when I was low or when I'm high So now I just gotta wait for that top five guy Or something that that makes sense and what fight is ahead? What fight is still because I don't even know if there's any band and weight fights on the docket right now, are there? No, not right now. Like I think uh The dong is fighting morais, but they're below me anyway Uh, the only guys ahead of me is mirab, font, sanhagen Although in cruise. Yeah and cruising currently three four times already

He's he you you guys aren't gonna fight. You don't think oh, they call me They offer us to fight multiple times. He's an interesting guy. He's kind of like, um, he reminds me of like, uh He almost reminds me of tom cruise the actor and work because he like he's had a great career You know, he's had all these he's had a really illustrious career long career And he's also this kind of like unique mysterious kind of dude, you know, he when I hear him talk He sounds he sounds too smart. Like he tried to like say perfect things and be perfect and he took his time But um, I don't know him personally like we do the commentary. He doesn't english. I go to spanish

so we cross paths often and I call him out all the time, but I just keep it real when I see him I say I say what's up, you know, if you say fuck you them, I guess we're fighting right He's not like that in a way Do you think he wants that fight? Maybe there's because for him at this point It's kind of what does he want to do really for honestly a guy like that? I'm guessing he's just he's just one big fight right, but You know, he he's coming off a win. I'm coming off a win

I think makes sense because it's just I think he's not he's six or something like that. He's not too high up there But they offer us to fight three times already and he just declined it So when somebody declared it that much, I'm not I'm not losing my time, right? You can't keep calling it Maybe it's just not what they want. No, especially if maybe yeah, you don't sometimes you don't know I guess maybe what the fighter's plan is or what their path is. Yeah, that's why like I'm I told him like just just send me the contract with anybody higher than me and and it's all like It's it's regular wrestler and I'm training everything. So I'm not worried about Specific things. We had a question that came in here right here. Um

Here we go You can see it that good, but you'll be able to see it enough. I think Oh, we're gonna need the headphones for this. Yes, sir. We can hear him for sure What's up cheeto, um Oh and Theo cheeto, Theo Theo cheeto. I don't know Uh, I just wanted to ask this that fight against Sean O'Malley Every single time I just keep talking not talking but hearing about it and I have to keep talking about how Honestly, you won the fight. So my question is

When are you gonna get the bell when are you gonna go for the bell to be honest, that's the real question But uh, no, yeah, honestly cheeto. I'm a huge fan. Um I think oh and you just kind of answered that really too. I think even just Like you were saying the only yeah, what would the path for you to get to the belt be like I wonder I I believe at the moment If I get a fight with somebody in the top five, I'm a fight away from there because Either my fight without though, even if I lost that fight by decision Come in coming to the third round. He was pretty defeat. He was very tired and

And After that I get I get too cocky. I get too excited and I pay the price of that I went too hard too fast. He took my back and he hold me there. So I will never sit down and it was I'm I'm putting excuses like oh, he is hold me down. No, I'm Right, it's your responsive. Yeah. I'm the idiot that couldn't get out Yeah, and I put myself in that position. So I I just take it like a man and I definitely work on that. I've been um I took like six months working on don't get hold in that specific position And I I believe I figured it out even when franky took my back. I was like out quick

So that was something that I'm glad I I fixed and an improvement. Yeah, and after that out the win and kicks Uh font us he beat up moon. He's pretty well So that just put me in a good position because he couldn't do none of that to me against you. Yeah So that can set on set set us up for a rematch easily I feel I can do a fight for tower elimination with him or I can just fight somebody like my rap that is a tough wrestler Uh, nobody can beat him lately. He can take you down and hold you down. So if I go in there, I just put him out

Like simple because no one called him out for reasons He's not popular He's boring, but it's effective. He wins. Right. He don't talk shit, but he wins, right? So if I go in there and just clean cut Put him out Stomp him. Yeah, okay. That that's how you That's the crazy shit that you do and people is like fuck this guy's real, right? I'm not worried about anybody. It's not like some fighters are like they have a path to the title

That is very well done. Like, okay, fight this guy. He's a heavy puncher. Okay, you clinch him Okay, now you're fighting a good grappler. Don't go to the ground. Right. I'm willing to fight Good or bad fights because I know one thing if you're ready, you have a chance to put him out You have a chance to get away with something. I'm not worried about the striker or the wrestler Because I I do it all Do you ever sometimes you're in there? Do you ever forget that you do you like kicking or punching more? That's when sometimes I'm always wondering do you these guys like to kick more or punch more? Do you ever forget that we'll answer that first you like to kick or punch more?

I like both. Like I don't like now that I'm with Parillo He's a great boxer I feel my punches are getting pretty crazy and that just helped my kicks to be better because if I can punch you I can like some people have no punching and just kick right? Yeah, but then when somebody put a good combo on then they get clipped So I feel like now that I get my boxing my base pretty good I can kick better than before just because I fix little mechanics with him and I feel like

I'm very complete now. I feel like the other things like people who want to take me down now, which I train with one of the best people in the world in the ground anyway, so I'm not even I'm just not worried right like I'm the other things like some people is very talented, but then you can get them tired Good luck trying to get me tired. Like just good luck with that. That's never happened. He's not gonna happen He's never happened before it's never happened probably since you were born, man. I think yeah, because Yeah, I'm a very active person. So I'm like If you want to get me tired, I can guarantee you will get tired in the process And it's just a mindset like yeah, I'm willing to get on heart attack

That's what I think when I'm running when I'm sprinting when I'm sparring like I'm just pushing the pace You're willing to have a heart attack all the time. That's what I tell myself when I'm doing a sprint when I'm sparring I'm a human. I feel the same shit you feel But I can control that feeling. I can tell myself it's okay to feel like that. I just make friends with With those demons and easily I just keep them close because I can tell you All the crazy shit in the world. I can lie to you. You can tell you fuck

That my dick is bigger four inches more than normal is But I will never lie to myself. So you got to keep it real. I have the same feeling My chest is burning. My legs are tired. My forearm and my gas But it's okay. It's just okay I like that idea of making friends with those things, you know, you have to keep in those demons close I yeah, I when I get to the part where my heart's beating. I'm just like damn. I might die, but you say hey I just say that it's cool to feel that and just keep going. What's gonna happen heart attack. That's not losing Oh, you know what I'm saying? That's not losing. No, no, that's just one round is when you break your leg

I'm not saying I want that to happen to me. But if you kick somebody in your leg snapping twice You're not getting I did say TKO, but it's not like somebody right. It's not like somebody kicked your ass Some something really bad happened to you in the process. So when I'm throwing a kick or a punch That's the mindset I have. I'm like, I'm gonna break myself through you. Yeah and Works pretty good when you um When when you were in the O'Malley fight, did you feel like at the end of that fight that he had given? When you got him on the ground, you're on top. Did you feel like he'd given up at that point? Did it feel like that because obviously he was injured like he was injured and that happened the same to uh sehuro

happened to Chandler before so So it happened to me, but in my arm like young linnaker punched like a truck and he punched me in the elbow and my arm went numb It's this like I'm not a doctor, but I think like this if a nerve get affected And you start like panicking your nervous season goes far enough So I was just telling myself like my arm was numb Just take my time just run around a little bit clinching whatever and my arm went back to normal So I was just like it is okay to have something like that right to have that happen We actually Sean actually sent this question in and let's see what I'm not say. Is it okay if we play it?

I don't want you to feel like we have to oh, bro. Come on. Okay, cool Let me see what is dark and look he's literally we just put him. He just sent it into like the regular channel He didn't send it to me. He just sent it. I believe that through the drop box. Let's see what he said Cheetah, what up, bro? It's your friend took a shot I'm just wondering if uh, you actually thought you won that one fight. Uh, let me know your thoughts I will Theo says he doesn't think it counted. Let me know I did not say that it's cool. That's another thing about me. I won't get offended by that shit Oh, I didn't say but I I know you didn't okay, but if you are if you tell me right now, bro

I don't think you wonder if I'm like cool No, I just I was rewatching it the other day and I was just I don't know what it's like to be in a fight like that right, so I was wondering if If I'm You know, if I'm something happens to me where I feel impaired, right? Do I then get into a situation where I Give where I'm just like it's I'm out. I'm gonna live to fight another day Right or and then if you're in the ring with them, do you are you able to know that? You know when when I when the fight started and I started

Walking towards him like most guys kind of like run away from him. He's range and he can be cloudy He can like I dye my hair colorful Many times too We look funky and people sometimes like because you have pink in your hair You're not tough or something. That's your looks like I'm not most people think he wrote. He's not training. He's fucking around He's just another fighter doing his job doing whatever right people get fooled by the way we act If you hear all the shit I say sometimes

You would think I'm not this person, but it's just the easy way. I'm talking shit 99% of the day. Yeah, and most of the time I don't mean none of that. I'm just talking shit, right? people Get fooled by that like when I was when I was fighting when he was talking I don't had one day that I sit down and pay attention to anything. I was like, I'm gonna fucking see in the cage, bro Yeah, and I am the type of person that let's see he pop up right now and he says something I don't like I'm not sitting down. I'm gonna fucking go and throw at him. Yeah, like right away. Yeah, I don't have those issues So that's why this shit talking or promos

He didn't give me or take nothing away from me, right? It's just normal and Sean's a real master of communique He's a he's a great like, uh, he's doing a good job. He's doing a good job. He's a great character He's a great character good for him. Um, like I'm not and fighter and he's a great great fighter He can fight did but yeah, did you feel like you want at the end? That was yeah, I wasn't mad or bug about the way it went. I kick him in the leg He should give up that wasn't an injury on his ankle. That wasn't the same thing that happened when he fought sukanta which Sukanta if you're fucking opponent half a broken foot, why you take him down, bro? Like why you don't let him stand up and just kick his ass

but That's also what they call Being a little smart in a fight like if my opponent break his feet Why you take him down? You're making him a favor Right, just just just let him walk where and the referee will stop it When I was walking him down I follow his energy He don't he don't like pressure and most guys

Want to go too crazy with him. I took my time. Yeah, like he throw punches, but I saw them coming He's very he's very sharp with his hands But if you're calm and cool, you can see them coming, you know, I don't close my eyes in there Well, I don't think you close your eyes to anything in the world. It doesn't seem like um Do you have they pitched you that fight again? Yeah, they offered me to fight him Uh, when he fought in the McGregor car Oh, yeah, I was at that fight against that the the green hair boy. Yeah, the green hair boy, man Never fought again. Wow. Yeah, that guy

He's still getting hit somewhere that guy took a lot of hits. Yeah, he can take punches in the face But that also say Like if you punch somebody that many times You don't punch that hard, right? He oh my this is nappy. I give him that but if you punch somebody that many times That's a good point. Oh, yeah, bro. That guy got he punched him as many times you could punch somebody I don't think you could punch somebody anymore times. I don't even if you knew somebody their whole life And you didn't like them. I don't think you could punch them That was awful. That that was an awful fight. I'm like, like what type of competition is that

And I think that's also why people talk shit on him, which I don't give a fuck what people say or not about him, but But going back I think I won. Yeah, um I was happy with it, but I also leave it in the past. I don't leave off that shit I don't give a shit who he is or what he does for living I move on they call me in Last last year you want to fight him in july. I was like This is what it this is what I did and this was my coach advice. It was a good point

He's like cheeto, you know, you fight Anybody like no problem Tell the UFC to call him first and see what happened They never call that game. So and do you feel like um, do you feel like there's anybody else in that? that's like do you ever feel like Like because you kind of came in as sehudo was kind of leaving out right like yeah Do you ever wish that you'd like that would be a cool fight? Is there anybody that's kind of like that was right before your time or somebody that you're like, man, that would have been some

Not really like I don't you just kind of live in the present sort of yeah, like I'm not thinking like I Sometimes I wish I got to met guys that retired things like that in other way classes, but people that I could fight I don't I don't really give a fuck like favor at some point was trying to fight me and then kind of like Uriah, yeah, because you guys fought a few times right three couple times. No fight. You'll never fight I I fought out his guy. I fought a couple of his guys, but He at some point he was like, I want to make a comeback and fight you. Who did he fight a few times?

Cruz now. Yeah Cruz. They fought three times. Didn't they now? Yeah. Yeah, he lost the first one He won the first one. He lost the second two. Yeah one was in LA when Rocko fought Beespin And there was with the green muscle fight with the the the the second fight was in the the UFC with the green muscle farm cage um Yeah, that's uh Uriah has that fucking that dude is his hands are so crazy. Um, yeah, he broke both of his hands against mike brown in double easy

Dude, his hands are so his hands as they they They're like the biggest thing i've ever seen you almost got to use two hands. Yeah, but it's also four feet tall So he's actually gonna look bigger. That's right. You know what i'm saying? Maybe it's proportional He's got some real mitts on him though. Yeah, he can play catcher without a fucking without a mitt man He's got some real mitts on him. Um, yeah, so I guess it's kind of interesting because it's like in your division It's like how do you Because there's not even any fights coming up. So Do you feel like you're gonna have to sit and wait?

Do you feel like you're gonna have to fight somebody that's lower ranked than you? Or what do you think you're gonna have to do because there's not even any I don't think in the next four or five cards. There's even a band and wait fight on the on the horizons No, it's just them It's just jam fighting and startling in april i believe in florida And then that's about it I've been I I saw Sean last night and I honestly hey man. I want to fucking I know everybody Break your balls before I ask you for anything. Let me say hi shake his hand give him a hug

That's like did you have a date and don't give me don't give me a name. He's like you fighting soon. I'm like cool Wow, that's all I need to know because everybody want to fucking Fuck his eyes like just like pay me more. No, no, no, no. What is this? I don't have time for fucking crying to know what I'm like. Hey, just just say a date. He's like you fighting soon. We cool. We cool um When you like what would you have think of been if you hadn't been a fighter when you think back on like What do you really because you if you were working in that place doing the papers, right? That's a pretty I would I tell this right now. I will never have a shitty job like that. I will have something cooler like that

I wouldn't mind being a farmer dude like the daily work the fastest farmer You would be the fastest fucking farmer. I would be jacked. Yeah, your work would be done I could see like the ox would be out there and you would be out there next to him, you know Yeah, I think I could work with my dad that would be easy But I just like I I oh when I was a kid I always thought like Whatever whatever I end doing. I'm just gonna Do it cool and be good at it like I just I always have good energy like I feel like whatever they I have to do

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Um, but yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm just 29 So there's for sure like I have at least five years that I can make myself It's a lot of fights. I can make myself, um Put in a good legacy make history and just keep kicking ass, but I think about it sometimes like what you want for afterwards and I'm like You know, probably I'm gonna start collecting Businesses whatever me and my wife we talked about it We want to like at some point where I'm open like a like a small cute coffee shop

Oh, that's make it all pretty put some art around sell some some some some accessors whatever cool We're we live in college. So there's a bunch of cool coffee shops And we've been thinking for years like maybe one day we just open up one and we use chill That'd be cool. That'd be cool. I'm or you never know that you win a fight and then somebody called you for a movie Somebody called you for a something crazy With life you you never know. I always tell myself just just keep being you keep doing cool shit and Things will come up your way. So I'm not I'm not really too worried about it. Like I feel some people is too worried about

Where where do they want to go? Wow the name they're never focusing right now. You know, that's me You're talking to that guy. So really a lot of times. Yeah, I just get caught like in just worrying a lot That's why it's really nice to be around you because just like it's inspiring man to like Be seems so to meet someone who seems so comfortable in the space that they're in It's it's it's it's it's inspiring. I think it's uh, I And I get this from you know, there's a lot of people around like you're wrong and it's a Perfect example like I've been listening to him since before I moved to the u.s. And that's like seven years ago And you know seven years ago. He wasn't the fucking guy that is now, but he he always talked about it

You know, it's it's almost when your boxing coach told you back to basic work in the job the jump cross in life is also the same thing like you can be Desperate for what's coming or you can be like thinking like oh, I want to be this I want to be this Yes, we got it. We all want to do something in life. Unless you're a fucking lazy piece of shit But but if you're really putting your any in something It's just you know get the lessons from the past I'm fucking enjoy today because Most most people or some people they don't have a tomorrow. You know, they're sick with cancer

They lost everything. We don't know. So I always tell myself if I if I have if I'm alive I have a chance. Yeah, and then It's weird like I think that mentality Definitely was what took me here. But even when I was a kid And I was having a problem or an issue or I wasn't getting something done I just told myself there's always a way there's always a chance. Just figure it out like When you do you miss being a child you talk about being a kid a lot? I talk about being a kid a lot on on on this show

Do you miss it? Like do you think it was fun? Like do you have a lot of great memories from being a kid? I have I do have great memories I don't but I don't want to be back. I remember when I used I was in high school and I was like Fuck this shit. They hate to be sitting here to listen a fucking person to telling me two plus two is four Fuck that I'm a teacher and then everybody was like, bro when high school is done. You're gonna miss it so much The day I grade from high school. I say

Fuck you and until today. I'm like, I don't want to go back to that I was just not made to be sitting down on learning a fucking equation. Yeah, which That thing will do nothing for you. Like they don't teach nothing In a school not for you not for a guy like you. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah specific I don't want to talk to normal people but but yeah, I had to do I do I remember doing steroids to do math I would do steroids, bro. I'm not even joking. We used to do steroids just to do, you know And I would do math real good that year and

um, but it's just like it just wasn't for me like I was like Teach me something about life like teach me how to handle what's out there in the jungle like Like this fucking equation is not this these notebooks are not gonna take me out of problems. Like, oh, yeah I don't see when I look at you. I don't think I think if I see a book and I see a junk You're yeah, you're like the jungle You're the guy looking at the kid looking at the window being like I want to take on the jungle Most people don't think that way. Yeah, well, that's true too. But they don't but in any

SNR in life in any profession you pick You can keep the energy of like Don't get desperate of on the goal Right be on the process take care of the process like it's all about the process like if you do the process wrong The recipe whatever The air will be bad the taste of the food will be bad Your whatever your your goal was you want you won't get it done just because you were You were thinking in something else. Yeah, like you cannot be thinking on on the finish line if you're not doing nothing

In the start man. Yeah. Yeah, that's true, huh? Did you all have halloween growing up over there? Did you guys have halloween? Yeah, we don't it's not as hardcore as the u.s. Like You know every house is packed. We got a we definitely got a halloween party But we don't have like the whole city giving content to be we got some You know some places that some Communities that does it but it's not like the u.s. Like It's it's almost like Christmas. Did they have what's like a unique ecuador holiday that they have that we don't have

Is there something kind of well new years and Christmas for us? It's a full on party Really? It's like music whiskey and good food. It's full on party like Christmas for and Christmas Christmas for us is we open the presents on the 24 night time when everybody's drunk the 25th is just Play with the touch already open and mom and dad is hungover. Yeah, it's a little different there, but it's fun Then the food is great similar food just with a different little different stuff

Like, you know the turkey everything but great food. Do you miss it? Do you miss ecuador a lot? I love ecuador dude. Like I haven't been able to go since 2019 because of covid I was going after each fight to do Either a commercial or picture for a brand whatever because of covid it's just You know, we haven't been able to go back. Was it awesome to see that guy last night morales. I think yeah Michael Morales Michael Morales. Wow, dude. He's an athlete, dude Like he went and just throw a hate maker. I was like, oh, wow. He said well, it's always a big boy

But it's 22 years old like I remember when I met it to the ufc at 21 And so I cannot I can relate any mind how he feels nice You feel like you're on top of the world We came from a small country and I'm in the ufc since 2014. Yeah 2022 we got the second one. So it's been a long time. Wow. So But that kid whatever he's doing Keep it up because he's doing well. Did he reach out to you for any suggestions or he's before the ufc

I think kind of like the The person now we should have the same monitor, but like the manager whatever he have an airquarter or his team They were like tagging me every day on something trying to get you to see him And I was like, I know who he is, but there's nothing I can do like like what you want me to do like You don't work but people sometimes don't know, right? Right. Yeah, they don't know Yeah, I mean what you want me to call then and he fights next week. He don't work like that, right, but Uh, I the only thing I says like just keep it up Like if you if you didn't write by yourself, you you will get there and what I've been saying since

For three years ago. It's like if you want to be in the gfc, we don't have the sources in Ecuador. We don't have the team it we don't have a solid team so Once you figure it out and you win like three fights Get the fuck out. Wow. If you don't have a visa go to Brazil or go to Mexico He went to Mexico with Brandon and there's like four other Ecuadorians within Brandon's team. I'm like Finally, I remember people will talk shit like what the fuck you say Ecuador suck I'm not saying that but we don't have nothing there for us. You don't have the infrastructure. They don't even really have it

We don't have it. Do they have gyms now? MMA gyms. It's get they have to be getting a little bit better. Yeah This is the thing we have good wrestling. We have good boxing. We have pretty good gg to like After Brazil, it's Ecuador in South America in jiu-jitsu Put it together. Good luck doing that. It's just it's a different game like I can be G to world champion and it's still getting choked down in the gfc. It happened to roll for vieta. Yeah, you know what I'm saying like You have to put it together. So if you're a good wrestler

And you have a couple of me fights Migrate go go and train with real fighters. We don't have that and It's not like I'm happy that what I say works, but All of the guys that left right they're doing well one already made it and there's There's a pair of twins that they're fucking good that This kid I don't know him like I see him last night. I say good luck blah blah But I don't I don't know him personally. There are the twin kids. They train with me before I left Ecuador I know them and they're close to make it

so I'm like if you are If you left the country and you make it Now now don't say fuck you right you were saying I was not not literally. Oh man. I think you were right Well, and also we're talking about Ecuador It's like the only way to get people to talk about where you're from if it's not extremely popular is to get To a place where people can see You talking about that place, you know, it's like yeah, sometimes people are like loyal to their town to a fault

You know, it's like you can do that. Yeah, because it will only take you to failure like Like you cannot sacrifice your whole life just because you say My country's better than yours like right. I'm in the u.s Like things will never change. I walk up to with my flag all the time Even when they say it's fighting out It doesn't say it's fighting out of california. It's still said those small details Who there forever right, but I wouldn't be kicking frankie. I get in the face It's turning in Ecuador. I can guarantee you that we got another question to you that came in here

Let's bring up something good here I think we just Oh, my hair was like that. What's up theo. What's up cheeto in anticipation for tonight? What was your favorite moment from ufc 271? Dang, dang, baby. And I think he means 270 probably. Yeah, you're in the future, bro. Yeah Uh, that was through DMT or mushrooms Like 271 who's this? He's not even announced that look that guy was there apparently. It was a fucking good time Fuck I wish we should face time and be like who wasn't been in that car?

Well for but I can tell you my favorite moment from last night to 70 I definitely think when moreno walked out that fucking arena turned dude I've been in many gypsies and last night when he woke out. It was like I thought I was in tijuana. Yeah I was like, fuck. This is a lot of fucking mexicanos here. I was like, this is great like You can feel like sometimes people make noise, but it almost feels like when my grave will work out You know, yeah, it's just when he woke out. It's huge. So it feels like pre dance That was one thing people love him

Yeah, and it's just you know, it's like people love him and meh, I mean Yeah, mexican people don't get enough credit in this country and mexican people keep this country They keep this going and who bro every day people should start the morning by just applauding Mexican people bro. I don't know why I do not know I don't know what would be going on if there weren't for mexican people and that is probably

pretty up there and also This country is made by immigrants. Yeah Yeah, people forget that over time. You forget that it's always been that way It's always been that way. Yeah, like jose talks about like his family came from italy like or or the stuff like that like This country is it's it's a mix of goods. It's yeah, my father came from nicaragua actually in uh 20 no 1910 My dad was really old when I was born, but he came here in 1910 or no in 1922 he came here But he was born in 1910

But he came from central america here. See it's all yeah, the whole it's always been that way But that's that's why that's why they say america is not the u.s.a It's america is the fucking continent like south america central america like This country's it got a little bit of the best of everything. Yeah Um, yeah, and look and it's got opportunity, you know, it just has opportunity. Um And people will come off from anywhere to get it. What was there another great moment from that that you enjoyed from last night last night? Fuck yeah, what do you think of that other other? I'm thinking of the moreno the outcome

I Is I hate when I know the guys because I want them to win and if I was so close I think I think they could give it to him, but also um What's his name figuero was being a smart on don't throw first Because he will be counter pretty easy So he was almost waiting for big shots and there was two different rounds if I'm around He touched him and moreno went down. I think one of them

Was in a real one one was a real knockdown when he put the choke and 10 seconds left That choke was fully sink. So that was a little scary. Was he saved by the bell you think there? maybe I we have to say yes because he was like he could have scrambled out But it was fully on and then he he ran out of time So that was a good thing for moreno but then there was one that he get touched with a jab and he Went to the ground, but it was more like out balance, but we don't know that it can be a real knockdown

And then I think the referee I think it was 3 to 2 maybe because of that, but moreno put more and since I was there I saw uh figuero Pretty hard more than once like almost ready to go down, but I I just feel like Moreno was being very patient If you if you were to step in the gas, I think you could finish him

And do you think that's something that you learn as a fighter if you're in there like not to like to be careful of your counter punches It's like sometimes you you learn like oh When I counter or when I punch first they're countering better like especially the last fight like like Figuero came pretty strong and moreno just countered him until he just took him down finish him And this time he he wasn't that aggressive If he was waiting more from rena and those low kicks also Yeah, it was heavy It was an exciting fight. It was a great last 20 seconds for they just said let's go

They went max halloween, Ricardo Lamas. They point to the ground and said fuck you It was a great fight. It was a great fight The whole crowd was booing heavy. So If you if you will be a clean decision, I don't think the crowd will will boo that bad I I felt like I felt like if it was a I felt like they may should maybe just made it a draw Exactly like they make the first time like a draw would be great, but Being a judge is a shitty job. I I know they sometimes like they make oh like that wasn't

Like that could go to moreno But sometimes they make some decisions that you like which fight you were looking at like that But like the whole war gets crazy on it Yeah, and but being a judge is a shitty job But none of those guys Are martial arts. None of those guys have a full background. That's crazy. Isn't it? most of the There's one referee the one judge that I get to talk to him and I ask him like like where you came from like

Like what you know about him? I mean, it's like I'm a boxing referee. I'm like, oh, you're fucked Then who isn't a boxing referee. Yeah, I'm like so everybody. Yeah, like you have to separate No headbutts and I guess no no big punches and then no clenching of course, but But that's just like crime like I feel like if you go on trial for murder or something The people in the box should all be murderers, you know the jury Because at least then they're gonna be able to be like, oh, yeah, he did it or didn't if you're getting somebody that works Out of bakery or something. They don't fucking you know I'm saying like Yeah, the way

Love works too. It's crazy. Like like it's just thinking about like it's just random people saying innocent like What the fuck is going on like They're working like The judge is better. He's better. I'm putting that fake her that he's back in the day and make a movie about it Yeah, it is crazy. The system seems a little crazy, but I don't know what else we would do. Maybe let a machine do it, you know Yeah, well Elon Musk can figure that out. Yeah, maybe he will like you put it your Tom. Prince is guilty

your head job You know some guys would be scared to put that down I know even that the lie detector nothing don't work. Nothing looks horrible. It looks so rickety It looks like it wouldn't even start your car, you know, I'm like this thing looks like a piece of shit you know The season is pretty fucked up the way things work, but Somebody had one in our neighborhood growing up had a lie detector test and then we were always using it in shit And it didn't it didn't do shit. It didn't work. No people. We like I remember asking they would ask one of the kids like

Are you smart and he said yes, I'm smart and we're like that dude's a fucking idiot I think I think we can use that anomaly. Yeah We'll see man Is it interesting that the guys like uh, Sean creates such a um Do you get is it hard not to try and become that kind of energy? I noticed it in my own world like I noticed some guys have bigger personalities So sometimes I'm like, do I need to get a bigger personality? um

Is it does it get tempting to try and uh, well for me it's like I think also is where you are in life like I I get to the UFC With a wife and a kid now I have a wife a wife and three kids. So So I don't have time to go home and play video games for five because I got personality. I can talk to anybody. I can You can switch up with one of those guys and we can have a cool conversation I can talk shit. I can say

Funny funky shit, but when I get home I want to play a little basketball with my son. I want to take my daughters to get an ice cream I need to take my wife somewhere So I don't get the time. I don't got time to twitch. I don't have time to to do all the shit Right. So yeah, it's just a different it's I'm using a different place in my life. Yeah, like if I would be a single guy I'll probably be doing every single thing I can do because I can feel like let's see Couple months ago, my wife took the kids to Palm Spring for for two days with my moring law And I was like, holy shit. I didn't knew that they got so many hours

Wow, I will come back home and sit down for six hours and be like, what the fuck? I'm not used to this. I don't even feel good about it Even if I have time to rest because I got we got a full scale drop the kids in high in high school in the school Go to the gym come back She got pick up one. I got pick up the other go to my second practice of the day Put him to bed go to bed around nine ten Wake up run early morning drop somebody to school. So it keeps going You have yeah, that's your world. But like guys that don't have

The responsibilities that yeah, they can they can open what they can do like that That's why I put everything into training to win fights. I don't got time to be a comedian or an actor And I know I'm a funny person. I know I can talk shit. I know I can correct some jokes, but There is just another time I could see down the line I could see you doing it afterwards though. Maybe getting into like commentating or something Yeah, and I do really commentator already. I do it for spanish. Oh, that's cool. I've been doing it for like five years Oh, wow, that's amazing. So like I can I know I can do more shit At the moment. This is one goal be a world champion and just kick ass

there's I a friend of mine used to say oh, it's like you cannot read three books in one day. So big one Learn from it and then move into another so like I'm just I'm just busy Damn, man. Yeah. Well, this has been quite the novella, man I'm trying to think if there's any other any other question that came on calling you want to throw up Oh, I like that shirt. Oh, yeah, this guy. Hey, como están chito buen día Theo, what the fuck is going on, bro? Wow, my question for Chito is cuál es la pelea que más te dio orgullo por ganar y representar los colores de Ecuador

Theo, you should probably already know Spanish from that one friend that you had back in school. So gang, baby Yeah, that uh, that's Spanish question. And what did he ask? Yeah, he asked me like, which is the fight that made me the most proud Well, I or like or my I guess my biggest fight I think when I went to London and fought Brad picket In 10 days notice was pretty huge for my life. Yeah, just because How everything was planned out. I was coming off elbow surgery I was fat. I was I was called depressed. I wasn't able to show up to the gym in the in the past

Eight weeks. I had Really couple grants in the bank account I It was the first time it was when we just moved for network with my family because I came for a year alone train win a fight Have some money to flew my whole family and then I brought my family in

Got the elbow surgery and then I was sitting down on my couch for like Seven weeks, there's nothing if you have a elbow this big. There's nothing you can do so the moment the doctor cleared me to start to start running and Basically lifting but just from my waist down I was I was running Every day, but not not long decent. I was running heels to get my heart With her I basically become a Cameron Haines for like four weeks. Yeah, and then I was squatting as much as I can and I wasn't in fighting shape, but I was in survival shape. I was like

I was I was doing every day something really hard with my legs And then I was like fuck my bank account is drained. I don't got nothing back there. You had to take it No, a thousand percent. So my manager called me. It's like, hey bro, like Uh, song Mexican guy got hurt his bread picker returned me in fight and I was like Bro, send the fucking contract like tomorrow like now So I was and I was heavy because I I wasn't doing nothing. So I was like waiting like close to 160 And then they told me 135 you have to make the way. I'm like, I die making the way if I have to so we flew to London And I was basically eating

One egg Couple asparagus And three gallons of water. Oh my gosh, man That was it and then back then I didn't have the nutrition I have right now Back then was using the coaches my manager and we're like just trying to figure it out. I was like, uh, what should I eat? Ordered an egg with asparagus. Okay, cool And then we started the way cut I dropped like Close to 18 pounds

I was dead. I was dead, but I was broke. So I knew I have to do it And then I get to 140 And I was like, they asked me, how are you? And I'm like, let's just keep going And then we got a cold. Hey Brad tastes okay 140 Because he don't want you to pull out if you pass out and then he's not fighting his retirement fire Oh, so they met you at 140 we made up 140 And I was like, cool. Fuck it Dude walking to the cage

I was angry. I was like a madman. I was like, I'm gonna kill this guy And could you smell people eating stuff in the stands or not? Little bit. Yeah, like they were saying they were saying fuck you you you you will die But it was just like Brazil, but in London. Yeah, you're fighting hometown boy right there. Yeah And I was like I was telling myself the only thing I was thinking walking to the cage You lose this fight. You gotta send your family back to a girl. You win this fight You have

You don't you're not set for life You got a year in the US to figure it out and keep going because I had like four grand walking to that cage. Yeah, I was telling myself This is gonna have to kill me like there's no fucking Turn around for me. I don't want to go back. Yeah, I don't want to be a loser and go back home like what happened I couldn't make it in the US. Oh Uh, can it work for you? Can it clean your house, bro? Yeah, can I be over here? Yeah, I use there's no Accepting that fucking going back

And it was a hell of a fight. I think that fight Teach me a lot about yourself about life like what you can do when you need to do it. Wow. That's why now that I In a way have it all like not in Values stuff and learning material shit, but I just have it all. I'm a happy kids are good. Wife is good We live in Cali. We own a house. It's like I'm just

remember that I'm just to keep a strong the rest of my life like I use I think people get softer cocky or careless when they made it to some point I keep the segmentality just My kids can learn that one day. Yeah, because if

They they won't remember that In 2017, they don't know my mind. They were babies So I need to keep that mindset for them to learn how to live like this When they're 15 20 because if I become a little soft, bitch They will see that. Yeah mindset is so it's so key with so many fighters, man. It's so interesting especially in your life, man Um, this would be my last question. Where did you meet your wife at? 4th grade damn boy. That's a little little creepy boy. I know that's early papa. I know Who didn't we didn't touch each other till 14. So it wasn't that's a little bit more legal, but damn boy fourth

Yeah, we made we made early. We were in the we were in separate classrooms, but She always told me like I like using some like you should say something. I was ready back then But I was I was worried about at least back then And did you go on a date or something? Is the in like an equity? Would you take a girl on it? What was that kind of like? Fuck when when we were young it was It was morally going to the movies or Or just visiting at the house go for a walk or something. Yeah, or you know, I I was a troublemaker So they wouldn't her her mom wouldn't let me grow so yeah a lot

But I they put me in jail twice for fighting in the street So like they don't every time she was around me their mom was like hey be careful like Like would she get you a valentine's bail money probably Yeah, every time. Yeah, I'm sorry. I lose it all there. Yeah, like I was um, I said thank god I found something that keep me disciplined because I only find ways to get in trouble growing up like there was God kicked out of high school Just just looking for turn something on fire. It was just it was just trouble over trouble over trouble

And there was no fucking stop on that. That's why I'm right where you need to be. I'm right where I need to be somebody if if if nobody will put me in a cage I'll be fucking. I don't know where I'll be bro. Even my all my friends. They're all dumb. They're all fucking They it's all fucking around. Oh, yeah, yeah, we'll fucking party Since wednesday, I will show up to high school drunk. Yeah, it was just dumb shit You were meant to be in a cage kind of in a weird way, huh? A hundred percent A hundred percent. I know that and I love it. Yeah, I love it. Well, man, you have a you have a beautiful life, man It's been really interesting to get to know you. It's amazing. So many people really love you

uh, you know, you're really beloved it feels like in the sport and Um, I'm just grateful for your time, man. It's really inspiring to me where I'm at in my life right now Appreciate you. Thanks for having me, dude. I I've been falling for a long time. You're a funny cat Well, thanks, man. I try my best, man Uh, and I hope to get to check out your next fight, man. Um, hopefully soon. Yeah, best of luck, brother Appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me. Wow For me to set that parking brake and let myself on my Shine that light on me

I'll sit and tell you my story Shine on me To me and I will find a song I will sing it just for you And I've been moving way too fast on the runaway train with a heavy load of my past And these girls that I've been riding on they want something that they're damn they're gonna