This Past Weekend - E397 Parker McCollum

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

Parker McCollum is an award winning singer-songwriter who was named “New Male Artist of the Year” by the Academy of Country Music. His latest album “Gold Chain Cowboy” is out now on MCA Nashville.  ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com Podcastville mugs and prints available now at https://theovon.pixels.com ------------------------------------------------- Support our Sponsors: ShipStation: Go to https://shipstation.com for a 60 day free trial with code THEO Truebill: Go to https://truebill.com/theo to start canceling today BetterHelp: Go to https://betterhelp.com/THEO to get 10% off your first month Keeps: Go to https://keeps.com/theo to get your first month of treatment free Mint Mobile: Go to https://mintmobile.com/theo and cut your wireless bill to $15 ------------------------------------------------- Music: "Shine" by Bishop Gunn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [e-mail] Hit the Hotline: [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers/ Producer: Riley https://www.instagram.com/rileymaufilms/ Producer: Jeremy https://www.instagram.com/guyboybabyboolove/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Like somebody just damn back to damn truck of sunlight up into this bitch Today's guest Fortunately he rolls with the punches because bad. Hey boy Cuz we in here Um, I'm grateful to have him. He has a hit singles in country music He's a music man, and he has hit singles a pretty heart and to be loved by you I think if you if you like if you like this podcast, I believe you'll like some of his tunes Yeah, I'm grateful that he's here. He was just voted best new male country male and

That's I mean, that's you know, that's unbelievable. So He is extremely talented. He's out of Texas and Yeah, I don't know why I'm rambling, but I I think I needed I needed him to be here today. And so I'm very grateful I enjoyed the episode with mr. Parker McCollum It's time to sweat it's time to sweat it's sweaty in here today, isn't it? It is sweaty. Do you feel like it's sweaty in here? Not yet. I don't really sweat a whole lot. Really? Yeah. It's oh dang. Do you think you might have a

Cuz I guess you're from kind of a desert area. Is that right? No, not at all Oh really from like the sprawling metropolis of northeastern. Oh Oh, really? Yeah, man, I grew up, you know out in the country, but very very close to a Lot of shit. Okay, very humid very hot. Is it I think I'm just immune to it. Dang. Yeah, you might be man built up an immunity Because you grew up out in I know you're in in Texas and is that west Texas considered? No, no, I grew up in southeast Texas just north of Houston and then I lived in Austin 10 days after I graduated high school I moved to Austin and I I was like, I'm a big fucking country singer. Really? Yeah

Sorry, no, I got in late last night. That's good though. Do you have a good time? No, man. I did not I had a but I think well, I mean I Don't know if I did or not Parker McCollum ladies and gentlemen. Oh Thanks for being here, man. Man. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah, it's nice to get to meet you Yeah, I had I had my we had to go do an intervention on a family member yesterday So it was like damn, you know, have you you know, Shane Gillis is yeah, yeah Have you seen his live in Austin stand up?

Is that his special? Yeah, where he talks about taking his sister who's doing heroin intervention They took her to six flags. I haven't seen that part. Oh, that's rich gold. Did then that's what we should have done Yeah, cuz we took her. Yeah, we just wanted one flag it was like the flag of surrender and she did and you know and and We didn't see it So it was just a long day, man. You had a better day than me. You played Nissan Stadium. Mr. I did. Yeah, that's not it. That's crazy. Man. Yeah, it was good. It was

My mom was there. So I think that's kind of cool. You know when I Said she probably didn't I probably didn't look like the most promising prospect 10 years ago to play country music successfully So I think that's Probably helps her sleep a little bit at night to see it going well like that Oh, really? Do you think that so 10 years ago you think she didn't have probably as much confidence in you? No, I mean, I just I don't think I was you know, if you'd look at it from like a scout Evaluating a ball player. Okay. You say all right, but like he's never gonna make You know and then he makes it to the league so

Did it feel like that last night coming out there like that I'm making it to the league I mean that must have felt like something unique. I mean not many people get to play a stadium Uh, no matter how well they're doing man. It was cool. I was so tired and so hungry That I was really excited to get done with it and go home. Yeah, but it was dope. Certainly a lot of people When was it the kind of the thing where I am swan. I'm on dang drugs. Yeah, but it's kind of shining. It looks good It's good come get it. Yeah, if there's anybody out there with dry skin old spice commercial coming in Come give me a hug honey. I will definitely moisten you up Yeah, did it feel like so you're walking out in front of that many people

Can you feel you did your body start to not because I mean I have feelings I'll walk out in front of a few thousand and there's moments where like I think especially the first time where it's like Okay, are my legs still moving forward like it's almost you disconnect a little bit from yourself Man, that's that's only happened to me one time and we played the Houston rodeo at the beginning of this year It's like the only time that I was like gummy worm legs out there You know, I'd had like I tried to have like a couple cocktails take the edge off of 71,000 people sold out the Houston Texan Stadium We were headlining And the stage is rotating and I was the whole like 60 minute show. I'm out there and I was just

It was just like a mess to like I ate shit on stage. I've never fallen on stage really I fell is great Oh, you were just yeah, dude It was the full the full experience and when you were saying do you feel like as you were singing that you also like had Controlled over what you were saying because I would I'm trying to wonder if because physically I could understand maybe it's like Oh, man, it's overwhelming, right? It's like usually if I if I'm nervous like one or two songs in You're back to it's probably the same thing we do in stand-up like, you know Even if you are nervous like once you get into your jokes your role and right you've done it a thousand times

But that was like the one night that I was like the whole entire show I was just like googly-eyed up there like could not gather myself. Wow. Yeah, so last night when I walked out there. I was just I just I don't know. You're kind of just normal. You've done it. Yeah, yeah Dang it. Isn't it kind of interesting how things that would seem like a dream start to feel kind of normal Yeah, well that that like kind of messes with me with crowds man When we go somewhere we only sell like three or four thousand tickets, which is a lot of people It's a lot. I used to be like huge for us and now when we only sell three or four thousand. I'm like We peaked right over and the next night will sell 10,000

But it's like it's that perspective thing man. You get it's crazy what you can get used to. Yeah, very quick Yeah, yeah, how quick it happens. Yeah, that's really what's wild So you started out I know you started out over there in Texas man And tell me a little bit about like do you remember like the first like song or anything you ever heard? Do you remember anything like that? Yeah, the first like song I ever fell in love with was Amarillo by morning by George Oh, yeah, yeah, which was a good one. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't even know what Amarillo was man And I remember I just played there on Saturday night. Wow. I called it their national anthem on stage And I got a real good reaction. They liked that a lot

Yeah, I remember hearing I'm trying to think of the first. Oh, I heard Bon Jovi was the first song that I ever heard They're gonna be a big deal. Yeah The first time I remember hearing a song Bon Jovi and I was with like a babysitter I've told the story before but I was with a babysitter and so I think like there was also like a woman there My mom wasn't there. She's hot. Yeah. I mean she was yeah It's like all babysitters are hot when you're the baby. They're sitting dude. Yeah, you know Oh, I was like, dang. Yeah, I wanted her to sit close. Kendra Scott actually used to be my babysitter. Really? Yeah, true story

Scott who is it bring her bring her up Trevon? She was the she was dating my uncle back in the day Kendra Scott She's like the big jewelry maker All the girls wear all her stuff. Let's get an image of her and they should be your babysitter, huh? Yeah, she should wash me when I was a little kid And now she's like a billionaire. Oh, she is dang. She's done very well And do you have any recollections of the babysitting going on? No, dude I don't remember it all I would not have known had my mom not told me she's like, oh, yeah She's to date your uncle and she used to watch you guys

Dang and your uncle must have really he what happened with him. He couldn't he couldn't hang on, huh? Dude. I think I don't know I never really heard the full story, but he It's my uncle Chris my dad's little brother and he was just like a future Hall of Famer in the game of life Was he true? Oh gee. Oh is he and it does not surprise me that he was pulling that back in the day. Wow He's been he's a real aficionado when it comes to the gals. There is no question I Think I said didn't get that part of that that gene in the family you didn't I don't think so dude I'm sure you I mean you kind of feel like you kind of look like I mean you look like you play like you would play center on like

On Justin Bieber's like fan on fantasy basketball team. I feel like I feel like if you had a fan league basketball team You'd play center. I think you're you seem like you're doing fine I would love to play center on Justin Bieber's family basketball team. I may have missed my calling But you're locked in I know you recently got engaged you are you recently got married? Yeah? Yeah, I got married like two months in was it on and what does that feel like does it feel different being married? Does it feel? No, I've been home like three nights since we got married on the road So it's there's no different at all. Dang other than now when I come off stage

I just get on my bus and go to bed. Yeah, so that's about the only thing that's changed Yeah, so take me out of then so take me where you start music you start the first song you hear or the you remember hearing is George straight and really by morning. That's the first song you remember hearing Yeah, the first one I can remember being like I like that. That sounds good. Yeah, I want to do that And I was probably like I don't know seven Maybe six years old something like that, but my older brother Tyler. He's like phenomenal songwriter. He was the one that when I was a kid You know, he's big brother. I just wanted to do whatever like he could have been fucking ice skating And I would probably be professional ice skater right now like whatever big brother was doing is what I wanted to do

but he happened to play guitar and one of the right songs and I Was like right I'm gonna do that So that's so do you have no doubt that that's kind of where you're where your passion for it came from no question No, and I just I don't know. I remember being like a little kid and and I would Hear that song or any song and I would sing it and all the time But I don't think anybody ever thought that I would sing it for or be singing 20 years later So and at what point did it start to turn into kind of a job for you because I are even like a Like how did it evolve then into a hobby? Did somebody get an instrument that you like were you like dialed in at school and music?

No, I was like sweating so bad. Do you guys think it's good for a run? I was just I just went for a run So the lights look so good on the sweat, dude. I would just own it I think it's sharp, dude. I think it's kind of set in the vibe There's no question with the time of year that we did this interview. Yeah, there's no doubt about that Yeah, that's fucking summertime. The good thing is summer is almost over though So not a whole lot of heat left, you know only about four months. Well at least two months of her sitting right over here on my Forehead that's for sure. Maybe dang a little lit up man is what I feel like the Lord is just God washing me with his tongue

So little I'm trying dude, I am so sleeky. I can't even like I feel like Dude, that's good man That's what I feel like you make me feel better. I was debating hitting the pin before I came were you really? Yeah, yeah, I am but it's kind of hit or miss Yeah, cuz sometimes you hit the pin and like you're real funny and you're witty and it goes well and the other times you hit the pin and you're like I mean just just worthless as could ever be. Yeah, I was like man. I think I'll just no pin this morning Yeah, that's probably a good show. I mean, it's yeah I think that's that risk because you can't tell exactly how much you're gonna get. Yes, you know and this is my driver

Shoutout flex always gives me these pins. They always like sneak some you know when I'm getting out I like give him a hundred dollar bill and he's a little these like the Pins nowadays would look like they come from Target anything in the candy section. Yeah, and they'll hand me one and sometimes they're I Mean it's like, you know doing crack or something. I mean you hit it and you're like I don't dick What is weed nowadays man back when I was in high school like it was dirty and had seeds and stems, you know nowadays it's like Like you may end up literally like dead. It's so powerful. Oh, I feel yeah some of the stuff man I remember hitting something one time and I felt like they were just like somebody had done construction in my head You know doesn't make you think a lot

Well, that's a good word like it make me think I didn't want to hit it cuz I would come in here and I would look you dead And I and you'll be talking. Yeah, and then I'll you get done talking. I don't have to go Theo, what did you just say? Cuz I'm out there thinking about the fact that we're on a rock floating around a ball of fire and the void You know instead of having the conversation that I'm a part of and so I was like We'll just we'll hit it after we go on the way home I feel like it gives my mind a vacation sometimes if when I used to smoke eat it would give my mind a vacation but somehow I'll get too paranoid and then one of the first times ever got high was at this girls house and

Everybody had left. We all smoked weed and everybody else left the room and then I Remember her dad. I kind of like Her dad had been like sitting there watching me be stoned Like I was just like laying on the couch being stoned and it scared me so bad I thought I've been in this room for like 15 minutes by myself I was like talking out loud and kind of like saying positive things to myself and shit and then I look over and her dad who was one of our teachers at our school was fucking Standing there dude. Oh no

And man, I think at that point it made me feel so in like kind of introverted about when I was stoned You know and then I used to get um When I was young me and my buddy would we ate a bunch of no-dos one time We're supposed to go pick these girls up no-dos. Yeah, it was like caffeine pills, you know And this before we could get any weed, you know, this is like we're just like what can we do at the convenience store To make us feel different than we do right now. Yeah 100% of baby so

Yeah, I took we took a pack man and Are we took we split a pack or something? We were supposed to pick these girls up for this date and we parked like by the street and We were so hot we just I Don't know we could feel our hair growing and shit and And we literally we couldn't we couldn't move and get out of the vehicle So we just looked over at these we we could see them on the porch waiting for us and shit and And we just sat we just just sat in that car for a long time

It's it's a like it's it's a hit-or-miss thing man. Sometimes I hit it and I'm like You know, I've written some of the some of my biggest songs. Oh really? Yeah, some of the biggest songs I've ever written or or right after coming off of Hi, you know, it just makes me we think weird and then but it's so funny like I hit that pin all the time way too much and Every single time I take a rip of it for 20 minutes. I'm like I need to get my life together I'm a failure. This isn't going well and then after 20 minutes. I'm like Damn, I wanted that pin again. That was great, you know, but it's the paranoid thing you're talking about It's like every time well, it's interesting though because then why would our brains be like hey, I want to hit it again

Yeah, well, it's cuz after the the paranoid goes away. You're like, oh, this is great now Remember, you're like it's like Wolf of Wall Street when they take the Kweyludes Yeah, you know, and like you have to get through the phase of like where they're moving like snails like It's like once they get past that it's like pure euphoria Yeah, that's a good point man. It's like a like a lesser example of that I'm trying to think I remember like yeah I if I smoked weed like I remember if I was with a chick

I felt like it made your girlfriend feel like a new girlfriend That was one thing that was great about it Dude, if you know if your girlfriend doesn't it seemed like the same old girlfriend And you hit a little bit of weed bro Surprising you I remember one point sitting there having to guess my girlfriend's name, bro Yeah, cuz I didn't know, you know, that's a lot of lot of options too. Yeah, hard to get it right Yeah, you know And you can't ask her bra's looking around the house for clues and shit. Yeah reading old valentine

You gotta take them to Starbucks, right? Oh, yeah And let them order a coffee and then they put their name on the cup and that's the old trick If you wake up, you don't know who she is you take them to Starbucks. Praise god, baby that fucking vitay for Vanessa. Yeah What's that one? That's it, dude. That's classic man. I never tried that That's a great trick, man. We had a question come up with uh, well, I'm just this this today's just been a fucking day, bro I'm glad to be a small part of it. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Thanks for coming man. I appreciate it. I'm sorry. You catch me on such a weird time I almost I was like should I even cancel yesterday? I didn't want to cancel because I'm happy that you're here, you know

Dude, I'm like the king of canceling. So had you canceled I'd have been like, hell. Yeah Let's do it another day. I love canceling plans. I don't think there's anything There's no better relief. You know, like when you have something. Yeah, you know, like last night had you had a dinner? You had to go through after everything that you went through yesterday if you had something you had to go to You would have been there the point comes like an hour before We're like, dude, I don't want to go make sure to stay home Yeah, and like the greatest relief in the world Is when you make up your mind that you don't give a shit and you're canceling

Like after that, then you're just like, oh, we're not going Yeah, you know, but it's like that when you're stressing about having to go And you decide to cancel is like it's like it's better than any drug in the world, dude And that is interesting. That is a real high canceling. No question Because if you have a good excuse, especially if you do, yeah, I had a great one. Yeah I was like, dude, I've been in uh Yeah, I've been in an intervention. I would say that yeah, that's a gravy one. Usually I'm like, hey, I'm tired You know, and you just sound like a pussy. Like it's not I'll ever have a

My soul was tired. We're in there like pleading, you know, and they said it was like three hours And it was um It was good, but it just and then when you come up with an L in the intervention You're like, damn, you want to get the squad together? How do we regroup? Who do we send in next time? Should we have done matching outfits? Like, how do we get this right? You know, do we need a baritone? Like, what do we need a baritone to pull off the solid intervention? And then had you had a dinner last night and you'd been able to cancel or cancel this podcast today, you'd been like, fuck Yeah, I'm chilling. I got the whole day to just screw off now. Which are the others those are the best days

That's my weed pen, dude. Yeah, right there canceling canceling. Yeah, it's a it's a hidden gem among people who are very busy Bro, that's a great you should do like sometimes one of your buddies is flipping out about something you have to do Take his phone. He'd be like, hey, I'm not coming. We're not fucking going. Yeah, we're not Dude, I look forward to it all the time and then you know, like it's it's a blessing in a curse, right? It's good to be busy. Yeah, means you got some shit going on so people are expecting you to be somewhere. It's a good thing Right, but sometimes I'm just like, fuck dude. I'm not going. Yeah, I don't even have an excuse Yeah, I'm just not fucking going. Dang. I can't make it. Mm-hmm. Sorry about it That's beautiful. Sorry about it. My dad's birthday. Yeah, it's my dad's birthday

I want to make that a license plate on a car on like a cool Corvette. Yeah, make it my dad's birthday. So Just so you always be like, what's what does that mean? No, it's my dad's birthday. Sorry. Yeah It's a great excuse Dude, that is a great excuse, man. Wow. Thanks, bro. Yeah, now I feel much more relaxed, honestly Yeah, because I and then the plane's got delayed and I'm like, how do I thought about just driving or just getting a driver It was just like, what are we even doing? And I was in baton rouge. So it was just like You know, it was just like it was just a lot and it was just like Family people have been crying. It was just like Jesus, you know, somebody I thought that was gonna get high because of the intervention

I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna need I'm gonna need to uh, what is the drug of choice in this intervention? I don't know. We didn't know what they were on Oh, that makes it super. That's a way. That's a whole another Ballgame that's like a guessing intervention. It was a lot. That's like, yeah It's almost like a game show. That's like if the members of the game clue had to have an intervention like Mr. Plum or something He'd be like, I think she's doing heroin with a needle in the laboratory, you know I think so Yeah, I think she's doing opiates with a curling iron

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So like you kind of have been picked as the god like you get these they get these accolades in the business side of music, right? And you've had a lot of those right like this is the guy that you know the pick to click little things that rhyme, you know like the click or whatever you know what i'm saying like the uh the uh you know like the uh I don't want to say like the I'm trying to think of a good one like you know the next guy to shine

You know what i'm talking about and a lot of them are great like you know from I don't know if it was the country music awards that gave you like the top new male artists in the year, right? That's what i'm saying right and congratulations. Thanks, man. Yeah, it's amazing what i'm trying to get to is How do you get like is there then some type of formula? Is there and what pressure comes with how to? Fulfill that because really it's kind of like saying hey, bro. Here's a bunch of pressure Yeah, no man. No is that what it feels like maybe that's my interpretation not at all, dude The awards are cool. You know like I watch the awards shows as a kid So yeah, it's cool to be on them. You know, it's just kind of like it's kind of like the stadium thing last night

you know, you're like Damn, I used to sit out there now. It's kind of the same concept which is really cool, but man, and I don't know if it's if it's uh Blessing or curse, but I just don't give a shit Yeah, you know, I really don't I just want to be as successful doing this With as much integrity and respect As I possibly can trying to do it. I've done it the hard way, you know Like started from the very very very bottom in my pickup truck got a van got a trailer got a nicer van

Got a tour bus then signed a record deal. Now. We have like three tour buses 18 wheeler the whole deal Did it the long hard way? How I wanted to do it and so the awards are great man the the number one song is great double platinum song awesome but It just doesn't like that's not what It makes me feel successful, you know, it's uh, they're they're like just little bonuses, I guess But there's no really pressure. I mean You know, whether you win that award or you don't you still got to put out another record and you still got to go on

The road next weekend, you know, so it's they're great, but Um, I don't know if you're not doing it if you're not relevant in like 20th Let me look like George straight dude. He's like say he just turned 70 and he's still selling out like us bank stadium Yeah, you know, I'm 29. I just played a send amp a theater in Nashville. Yeah, I had a long fucking way to go dude So the awards are good, but Very hopefully the very very beginning of the road And what gets you to that next like is there a thing is it more? You know, because I wonder I don't know if it translates with comedy, but it's just like is there some I guess is it

a certain type of song that kind of Like what do you feel like you have to have then to continue to keep a a trajectory then or even a Of continuation of man, I think I think it's the songs and that's what I tell all like, you know It's weird now that there's like young guys asking me stuff because I was always the young guy asking the stuff And now I got these younger kids asking me For advice and stuff and I'm like dude if you don't have the songs You're fucked. Yeah, like you may have a good you may have a big single on country radio

But I mean if you have songs you can sell tickets and that's how you tour and have a career, right? So That's like the biggest thing man. You got to have you got to have you got to write and have the best songs like garth Brooks I mean mega hits george straight mega hits You look at timber girl any genre and that you know country music really probably has the most longevity of any genre it seems like You look like rap and pop music like you don't see a lot of 50 year old still killing the game and popping rap But there's people get murdered all the time. Yeah a lot of a lot of dying A lot, you know, it's like, yeah, it's not like every couple of weeks You know a young timber girl gets gunned down someone. No, you know, dude. He probably you've seen him

You've seen him a girl lately. I just see the bullet would show 1832 the bullet would probably bounce off He's nasty repped really. Yeah, dude. Go look at his instagram. He's like 50 And would just piece me up bring him up there. Let me see that man He is he is a seriously god Wish I was uh Tim McGraw is his name Tim McGraw, dude Oh, oh gee also a future Hall of Famer in the game of life. Probably oh this guy. Yeah, I saw him in 1832 He's um

There was a good there was a good picture just but can you just go to his instagram brother? He's nasty rip though, dude like nobody's gunning him down, you know, yeah I felt like they could gun me down pretty easy. Really especially if I if I'd hit the pin already Probably easy target moving slow when you if you get off stage here. He is right here, dude I mean he's making a million dollars on stage that night and he's out there working out at 11 a.m Oh Wow, he's doing that. Look at that Oh, look at that. I mean, what a G, dude

And you're going home to face hill and you look like that. Come on, dude You gotta really care. I would have mirrors all over. That's good I'd have just mirrors in my house. I'd get rid of the damn wallpaper. Yeah, nothing but mirrors I want to look at me. Oh, yeah I want to look at a little bit of extra Tim down for dinner Dear lord, I'd like to say grace and let everybody thank you for me. Amen Take the a in the end out of it, baby me me. Um, there's no I and amen, but there's a me you just pray Thank you lord for me. Yeah

Yeah, man, um Do you have a Routine when you're out there on the road? What's that like for you? No, man. Super lame. Yeah super bummer either wake up and play golf or I try to go to a gym and work out not like all Timmy over there Um, I like to go up my I like to go and put a lot of weight on eat the side of the bar And sit there for like 20 minutes on my phone and I'll just take the weight off Um and go back to the bus. I play a lot of golf on the road, dude Oh, really? Yeah, Nate Barghats. He's a comedian. Uh, who plays golf. He is

Phenomenally funny. Yeah, he's very funny. He is unbelievably hilarious, but uh, that's kind of the cool thing about touring is I mean, you're in a different city every day, right? So you can play different golf course every day now some days You're playing like these really nice country clubs that you're not even good enough to be playing at and then the next day You'll be like Albuquerque, New Mexico playing like antler hole. Yeah community golf course and it's solid dirt Oh, yes halfway house. There's meetings and stuff going on. There's 12 step meetings on the fairway Do you have you played Albuquerque? Uh, yeah, we just played there a couple weeks ago. Or maybe we were in Las Cruces or Albuquerque or something like that. Let's discuss it There's not a lot going on out there. Albuquerque is

Unbelievable, bro. Dude, everybody at the gas station had a parole officer with them With them dude, it was like it's like a wild wild west out there Yeah, like will smith and whoever was in that movie with him is going to roll up on that little spider leg deal any minute Yeah, it's almost like if I saw a drug dealer, I would be at least happy to be seeing a business person. Yeah. Yeah a hustler Yeah, like oh man, glad to meet somebody with a LLC here. You know it is uh drugs incorporated bro I just never been to anything like that. I didn't know what was going on, you know, and they were

and uh, I was talking about this the other day, but They're always like talking about the aliens and stuff. I was just about to say that It's like the drug's got to be good out there because they're seeing UFOs We're not seeing anywhere else and you don't have any video footage of them It's like all of a sudden everybody has a camera in their pocket and we're not seeing any videos of these UFOs Because the aliens are the people they are we may be the aliens. It's not us, bro We're passing through you think only the citizens of albuquerque. We're we're coming to the zoo to visit I like you know, and it's not I'm not saying it's the citizens

But it's there is there are easily aliens or you know Bots or what I don't know what they're called drug bots. I don't know what you'd call them in albuquerque But they are woven into the fabric of the shoot the species there. Maybe that's how they're getting that stuff into the united states I mean there is uh, it's definitely Some there's fentanyl in the DNA over there. They're sucking people up into that UFO and they're dropping down Kilos of coke and all kind of stuff. Maybe that's how it rolls out there I wouldn't there's uh, I wouldn't be surprised if they are um, it's like a you it's like a grayhound station for UFOs I think that's a great. I mean, it's I'll tell you this it's not somewhere

It's it wouldn't be on the top of the list of places to retire. Yeah You know if you if someone told me that they're retiring and headed to albuquerque to live out their days. I'd be like Are you in prison? You know, you just catch a large sentence and that's what you mean by federally assisted. Yeah, this is my federal retirement. Yeah, because I think uh Yeah, dude, it just blew my mind because we went to the gas station There was a lot going on, you know a guy in there is like promising the lady He's like hold my cell phone And let me pump as much gas then I'll come back and get my cell phone from you and she's like that's not a deal for us

She's like I have to give yourself from back and you get gas but he like didn't understand the deal And then this is all just at a guy. We're like at a pilot or a loves or something, you know And then there's this other guy walking around like this like with his arms like above his head, you know like that and uh And he had a parole officer with him And it was just like I've seen the back stroke and I've seen the front stroke, but this was just This guy was like dog. Dog. Dog. Dog. Dog. That's all he said, bro He was like, I think he worked for peter or something, you know, it's good alien drugs. Oh, dude. I'm like this dude is definitely

disguise Like they they gotta start putting uh birth control in the heroin. I think that's what they gotta do They may not you may be on to something there because it's I feel like that's getting out of him There's a lot of people nowadays. Yeah, there's a lot going on. Um, I haven't considered taking it Really? No Did it ever I always wanted to smoke crack honestly, that's an honest thing and after seeing willful wall street I did want to did you fucking smoke crack with me, bro lions and you know that scene Yeah, I never wanted to smoke crack until I saw that

Saw that movie man. They let me they make it look great. God. They do. Yeah And they're just super rich and they're dressed really nice smoking crack. I'm like I know for you know, the long game. Yeah, that's probably not the play Yeah, but for the immediate like 24 to 48 hours if you had a hundred million dollars in a nice suit Like let's say you had like 48 hours to live. I'm smoking crack When are you gonna do it though in the beginning or at the end of the 48 hours? Uh, maybe like the last six hours. I heard it lasts a long time. So yeah, you know go go like skydive And then maybe you can smoke crack on the way down

before you land It'd be so hard. You'd have to get in like a little box or something to be able to probably light it in there I do they have to have pins by nowadays, right? That's true. Huh crack pin crack pin Dude, I got I was at a smoothie place in Maui. This dude's like, hey, you want to do some DMT, right? I've never done it. Did you do it? Yeah, and and uh, it's incredible Yeah, it was crazy. Well, this guy takes me back to his house with his wife and their children running around And that is not ideal. Yeah, that was a bit much. I'm like, sure. This is the place to do it. It's not good and they're like sure, you know

and uh, they had like this little dish of macadamia nuts I remember and I love those and so I took that as like a sign like I mean, you know You know everything's probably going pretty good and uh, and I hit it man, and it was Yeah, it was definitely. I mean I went out there, you know, I was like I remember feeling like I was at like I kind of went into the speaker at like a drive-thru like a Like a

Like a drive-thru food place like a sonic or something. I went into the speaker and then I fucking worked at a footlocker. I remember I remember getting out. It didn't last very long. No, unless it's me. I don't know. Maybe six seven minutes. Yeah What was your experience like? Man, um, and where were you? I was in Austin, Texas I was living on UT's west campus university, Texas west campus at the time. I was not enrolled in school not enrolled I was writing that first record the limestone kid I put out and there was actually This kid from india

Who was a chemist that we had gone to high school with that was was majoring in chemistry at uh, university of texas And uh, he had like ordered the bark from like the amazon rainforest or wherever that whatever chemical that they get for the DMT yeah, and uh, and The bark came in he made it like in his and now looking back i'm like That like our thought my thought process that day probably should have taken a little longer Um, but a buddy of mine was in town and he was like, hey, let's go over to this house and then this He's like he's incredibly smart this kid that we went to high school with and he's a chemistry major and he made the shit in his dorm room And everybody took a little hit and I crawled out on the fire escaped like a monday morning at 8 a.m

and I like saw Myself as a kid like I saw him little like five year old me running across our front yard in the house I grew up in And then all of a sudden it was back and I felt amazing after it was like just complete Did you feel that way afterwards? I felt a little spooked out for y'all that don't know what DMT is It's the chemical in your brain that makes you dream like we talked about smoking crack DMT is not crack Yeah, no just for the listeners. Yeah, it's like the opposite of yeah, it's like can't harm you I would recommend everybody one time in their life does that because it's like it's very

I think it's a good thing Yeah, it gave me it's not like a hardcore drug. No, right. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably not going to see somebody like, you know You're not going to get it in like a back alley or no, you know, there's not going to be a shooting over DMT But it's a crazy It was wild dude and in like a few minutes and you're out of it and I was and felt totally nor felt great did just Like on cloud nine Yeah, I think I don't remember I did it then later because then I got I was like I want to do it again Because I thought I could get to the next level. It was like a video game or something. I'm like, oh, I can't I want to beat that level

See, I've been different like all that kind of stuff like any kind of psychedelics or anything I just like one or two times and I'm out. Hmm. I think they're my I think that like that's what those should be Like people who like like I had buddies that would eat mushrooms like All the time. Yeah, and I'm like I don't think those are for that right, you know Like well just grapefruit snacks 10 15 packs no problem But mushrooms

Probably probably don't want to buy the box. Yeah of those, you know, just a one time two time deal Yeah, yeah That's interesting man. Yeah, I think everything's kind of like that, you know But yeah, I remember that DMT man and then we went outside and did it and it was like in a park And then people were recognizing we were leaving and I felt like I could see kind of skeletons a little And that wasn't good. So I don't think I want to do that again, you know skeletons Do you want to be happy you want to be positive? I want to stay on the joyous side of things Yes, um, we had a question that came in about partying and stuff on the tour. Can we get to that?

Yeah, I'm sorry. So I don't hear Jesus. I don't know what happened Do we at least we call Guinness book of world records and say we just we just did the hottest podcast of all time It's got to be we should go do one in the Sahara desert and really set the record get rufus to soul to play. Mm-hmm Do it in albuquerque You do it in albuquerque the fuck is somebody left the oven on up in albuquerque, man It's been on for a hundred thousand years out there. Yeah They don't even have like bushes and stuff. It's so hot dude. They got people there

Yeah, they got to do with two tongues and he'll be he'll be standing there talking to a dude with no tongues You're like, this isn't do you have his tongue or this is damn serpentry, bro. Both of those years. Let's play that up, buddy Theo parker huge fan of both of you guys absolutely insane to see you doing a podcast together very very excited for it Uh, my question is for parker I'm uh, I'm a texas guy born and raised been a huge fan of the you know, the more texas style of country music, you know, and uh You kind of hear a lot of tall tales a lot of speculation a lot of crazy stories about uh You and co-wetsel on these tours doing crazy stuff doing just all kinds of shenanigans I'm wondering if we can get a story or two out of you some crazy shit you and co have done

That'd be really really cool to hear coming from a fan. Uh, thanks guys gang gang gang, baby. Yeah co is unbelievable dude co is like, uh He's like a disco ball in a cowboy boot. Yeah, you know, he's really um, he's one of a kind I got I want him to come on here. I think he's going to at some point a true future Hall of Famer in the game of life That young man Fuck a spark mire, dude. He really does it. He's great, man. And it kind of bugs me sometimes because You know people overlook how good of a singer he is Because his show it's all about, you know, so hardcore rock and roll such an entertaining show And no one ever talks about how just fucking good of a singer like his voice is incredible

He's such a good singer the first time I ever met him and heard him sing. I'm like I'm fucked very unique Yeah, and uh, incredibly creative and uh, if I was a fan, I would I would be a huge fan If I was just a fan, I would be a huge fan of his because I would he he is like he gives those people 110% of co-wetsel. Oh, he's tootin. I mean, he's almost And the sweetest guy in the world. He's very he's extreme. He's so generous. Yes. I mean, he's just east Texas boy, dude He's that's how that's how it rolls out there, man. A lot of just very well-raised But as far as oh man crazy stories, um

Yeah, there's one in particular that comes to mind Man I hadn't thought about this in a long time We uh, we were playing in Waco, Texas. Mm-hmm. And uh It's a place called the backyard and we we used to do this acoustic tour during christmas time him and I and uh Even before we had bus tour buses like first year we did it. We were just in a van together And uh, we'd do like, you know, six nights the week before christmas. It's acoustic go play bars, you know And it's like the level of entertainment was just Unbelievably uh, underwhelming

Because we were just so messed up every night by the time we got on stage. It was a lot of fun And uh, the first year we ever did it. We played in Waco at the backyard and Uh, before we even went on stage. I mean we were floored, dude, like I mean, I don't even remember being on stage. Yeah, and uh After the show he wanted to go To uh, the titty bar And I don't know if you've ever been to the titty bar in Waco, but it's smaller than this room There's like two dancers

And uh, and I've had a lot of fun Hmm, and uh, and I've that's never been my thing I never been a fan of the I never wanted to have to pay to touch, you know what I mean? And uh, but co loves him loves him, dude, and uh, he may be buried in there one in one of those one day Oh, he looks like he loves it. Yeah, he loves a good titter and uh, and I have no disrespect I cast no judgment. I don't know if I've got to go into one to get to where I'm going I don't mind passing through, you know But we come off stage he wanted to go there and and uh, and so we

I don't know who drove us at uber or somebody drove us this this it's the the worst It's like hall of fame Not hall of fame. Yeah, you know worse hall of fame ever titty bar titty bar. Yeah, really bad scoliosis. I know that Yeah, and it was so so we go in there and we have a few shots and We don't even we didn't even like no girls dance or anything We're in there for like 30 seconds and he orders a drink and it's in the rooms very small And he picks the drink up in a glass and just slams it against the mirror on the wall and just shatters Fucking everywhere and I'm like

Dude, we're literally we're either going to jail or we're gonna die Like it was it was it was a scary situation And he just doesn't give a fuck dude. Like he is just like it's his titty bar Well, so they kick us out and we have to go out into the parking lot. We don't have a ride We don't have anywhere to go. It's like 1 30 in the morning in Waco So and it's like a tuesday night, you know the first night of that tour Starting off hard Well, dude, I'm like I'm sitting there. I'm like fucked up on my phone trying to like find a way to get us out of there

And I look over and he's in the road on all fours. Yeah crawling at oncoming traffic Damn boy True fucking story and I'm like I'm like I'm sitting there. I'm like, oh my god He's gonna hit by a fucking car, but I'm too fucked up to do anything. Yeah, so That's like Pamplona. Yes. And so eventually he you know He gets up out off of the road and and somehow or another somebody came and got us and took us back to the venue And the venue has like this apartment you stay at We go in the fucking apartment starts kicking holes in the wall and he's like he's like screaming at me in the face

To kick a hole in the wall. I don't want to kick a hole in the wall And he's like he's like you're not fucking going to bed till you kick a hole in the wall So I have to kick a hole in the wall And I get so I get real You know even more fucked up and I end up laying on this little air mattress And in all of my clothes and I wake up at like 5 30 in the morning coast still awake and he's yanking my boots off and he's just going I'll never let you sleep in your boots. P. I'll never let you sleep and just yanking my clothes off of me

And I'm like like vietnam. I'm like, dude That was like one of the first times him and I had been on the road together and I was like This guy means business He's one of my best friends in the world. I love him. I would take a bullet for him any day of the week Um, he's a hero. I mean he is like beloved by people. Yeah, dude. He's what do when you when you go that hard And you give that much to yourself to those people every night. Yeah, you know, you're gonna get that in return Yeah, I mean he definitely mean like There's something about him where he will give uh

He'd give everything he had to give you all the blood out of his body 100% He's a dude. He is a great dude and I and everything that kind of surrounds him and his brand and his vibe and everything I just I might I don't even think people understand or appreciate just how like good naturally of a fucking he can just Belt it. Yeah, like we get fucked up seeing Frank Sinatra And he can just rip it. It's really impressive Yeah, he's got a I mean, yeah, he gives you the blood right out of his body. How much blood is even in a body?

I wonder how much blood's in a body and they're grabbing you pull that up like five or six liters. Maybe Is it liters? Damn, huh? We've gained it I mean, I'll tell you global warming is not affecting that shit, huh? How many liters are in a gallon? See, that's the problem. They give you all these charts approximately 1.2 to 1.5 gallons. Okay, so that's like you think about a gallon of water That's just one and a half of those That's crazy. I think that's all that's in us, huh? I would have thought that was way more I thought like a little half a baby pool Half of a baby pool of blood

I wonder if that's ever Been a thing if that's ever Has there ever been a baby pool full of blood? I would hope not A god, I hope not But yeah, I mean, I don't know if I get Yeah, it's definitely we are here. We're about to find out. We are on the last leg Of production staff here as they google baby pool full of blood, baby. That's awesome. Um, so how do you get to that part where you know, uh You're just learning about music and then you get to the part where you get you and co are going out and touring together

How do you how just get me through some of that timeline man? I just put our listeners I put out my first record the limestone kid in 2015 and um, I had a song called meet you in the middle that was kind of blew up off of it and uh, I had a Twitter message I had like just gotten a twitter and it was from this guy named co what's all and he was like, hey man, like your stuff You know, let's haul it. It's right sometime or whatever

And I mentioned back. I was like, yeah, you know, whatever love to and uh, this like 2014 2015 something and uh, actually ended up meeting this guy named jake murphy who's one of co and I's greatest friends also a future hall of famer in the game of life um One of my favorite humans on earth and uh, he was buddies with co and and he had started to Roll on the road with me. He was tour managing for me at the time um And he was like, man, you got to meet my buddy co and I'm like, dude, I think he messaged me one time on twitter

I think he's a singer too, right? And he's like, yeah, he's really good and um, so he we the first time we were hung out we went fishing Uh, I think I want to say it was on like the leon river or something in stevenville whatever the name of that creek or river was and it was like us three people in the smallest john boat that has ever been made and uh, and we were fishing and the river had flooded we almost just had a great time and um started hanging out and um You know, I mean that we just kind of ran around with the same people and I I was kind of rolling a little bit all at the time. I had a little bit of steam going in texas and and uh,

Obviously when I met him, I was like, dude, he's so fucking good. I was like people got to know, you know, so I was trying to kind of, you know, whatever I could do for them and and they didn't need my help whatsoever Like they were they were raw. They were there was no question. They were gonna be big time and uh, and but me and him just became really good friends and and uh, we were kind of the only two in our circle when we started to see a little bit of success that kind of understood You know kind of the things that were going through our minds the shit we were dealing with and stuff And so that's really kind of where I think we became really good friends was we kind of had each other to be like, you know You know talk about your shit. Yeah. Yeah, and uh

And so I mean it was I don't know probably a year or two later. I was sitting in my house in austin um working on that next record and he called me and he's like, hey man, I wrote this song called love Would you want to finish it right the last verse and and sing it and I was like, yeah, do you mind if I kill her? And he's like, no, that'd be great. So I wrote the last verse of love Like right there. I think I was still on a phone with them. I was like, what do you think about this? He's like, yeah, it's great. Let's cut it and we went and cut it and it was a huge song for him And did a lot for me too. I got way too much credit for that song more than I deserved certainly um that whole he he really deserves all the credit for that I just killed her in the little small verse at the end

and uh, man, it was like the second that song came out and it was like All right, get ready to be a rock star because I mean, there was no question in my mind. He was going to be a super star So I love him dude. He's one of I would I'd take a bullet for him any day of the week People love him. I get a lot of requests a lot of people ask me about him just spending time with him I got to go to the Super Bowl with him and uh Dude, we had such a good time. Yeah, I mean, he's just so much He's just so much fun. Yeah, and he's just so dang lovable. Yeah, he's such a good dude, man

I mean, yeah, I think people see him and and you know The way he looks and the way he acts on stage and stuff and and they probably think that's like You know, like he wakes up in the morning and it's just like That way, but I mean he's really just a good dude, man. He's got a huge heart and I mean just a good person. I love his family. He's comes from good people He's a lot of heart. I bet he has more than five leaders in him 100% way more than a baby pool good hold. I think he got I think he's a six-liter man I think he has a album cover something a baby pool. No, and I think about it

I think he is a damn six-liter man, bro. Yeah, he could maybe that's a new nickname for co six-liter man Yeah, dude, because he's got yeah, you need to have him on that dude. I mean, he I know I just want to have him on just from the pure stories Um And I've also been found. I mean, I just went through Texas touring. Yeah, so it kind of was like, you know, um And I was we talked about you on on jelly roll was in here a few months ago We were talking about you and I don't know if that part made in the episode because there was some lighting issue but um

We were both singing a lot of your songs and stuff and Um, and then when I was going through Texas, I was like, oh man, this is kind of the perfect time, you know Because I didn't know Texas was what it was man. We went through Midland and Lubbock. Yeah, and um And that's when we went through Albuquerque and it's I mean, it's They got some real people out there. Yeah, there's some people hiding out out there. Oh, yeah There are some people hiding out. There's people hiding behind cactus You'll see a lot of dudes and they'll just be walking around like this. It's like this is green

I think you've been hiding behind a cactus, bro. The West Texas West Texas is its own animal, man Yeah, I feel yeah, it's just it's its own thing I did it's almost like being on mars, but with ranch dressing kind of I always say it's like corpus christy without the ocean If you've ever been to corpus, it's what it reminds me Yeah, but I love what the school there. I grew up in east texas And so southeast texas and so pine trees like thick-ass national forest stuff like that And so west texas has always kind of been like you said like mars to me. There's no trees. Yeah, there's no bushes Yeah, not a lot of grass

And then people come out to this just like where they all come I know dude and dude We'll sell 8 000 tickets there and I'm like, what are these people doing? Yeah, but it's great man. I love west texas midland odessa Lubbock, uh, we've played in El Paso. We just played in Amarillo this past weekend. Um, that's so cool, man So I love it out there, but yeah, it's amazing how big it is amazing how many people are out there But yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed it man I just couldn't believe it like we'd pull up at a venue and we'd look around in the parking lot and you couldn't see anything Forever. Yeah, you're like, where are they? Where's people gonna come from? You know

But then people it's like you're gonna say like a mars rover pull out And like 10 000 people get out. I know. Yeah, like an express from Albuquerque It's like the the last like that into all the way out to california. There's just not a lot Going on, you know, there's like vegas plop in the middle out there It's like the oasis, but I mean, it's just like a whole stretch just like still like the wild west man There's just no town like if you want to like if you're wanted Yeah, by the law and you love Hardcore drugs. Yeah, you have like a thousand mile stretch right there where no one's gonna find you and you can get great drugs

Yeah, so that's true, man. You're right there You're really on the front porch of great drugs coming up through mexico and stuff. That's beautiful um Look i've been burned out for a while I've had a lot of burnout. I mean just exhausted You know my body's sweating stomach growing hair falling out teeth feelings

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I mean sitting around with money in the bank and nothing to do you know living in downtown austin there's plenty you can get yourself into at the time and uh, I just went a little too far and I had a couple nights where I was like You know It's this it kind of thing. You know and but well, you know next day. I was like I got I got I got to get out and I'd been dating Hallie Ray for a while and I was like You know, it's uh, I'm not if I want to see 30 35 40 You know, it's probably I just had I had to get out dude. I started

you know, it all started partying and and all the fun and games on the road and then Um, you know when you when you take that stuff back home with you and you're by yourself I'm still doing those same things That's when I was like I think and I had so much to lose man. I got my career started to really go well You know, I'd had pretty heart went number one in platinum and I had a major record deal and all this stuff and And I was just going down the wrong road and nobody knew like I didn't go to rehab I didn't go tell anybody and tell my parents. I didn't tell anybody. I told my brother a little bit

Um, but I just kind of was like, dude, you're a ground fucking man You know and you got a lot to lose and you got a lot on the line um And it's gonna be a whole different ride And probably a lot shorter ride if you keep on the road you're on so I just fucking woke up one day and I was like I'm done dude. Wow. I'm out. Good for you man. That's powerful. Thank you That's powerful to have that ability to have that wear with all and then but also to have that ability I think that's where some people lack that

To say this is it you can get used to anything that was really the way I looked at it I was like, dude, you can you can it's you can get used to something so quickly. Yeah, you know, you think about like I'm sure you've been talking about earlier. You've been on a private jet. Yeah, how easy is that to get used to? I just applied that same mentality to the shit that I was doing that I wasn't supposed to be doing and I was like I can get used to living without this. Yeah, and it took a little while Um, but I was like, I just I had to get out dude. I didn't want to I didn't want to live I like I love being on the road and waking up in the morning and feeling good

Yeah, like I look forward to the show I look forward to riding a record and going to work and and trying hard That was like something I didn't think was cool for a long time. Yeah. Now. I'm like, dude trying hard is dope as fuck like trying hard's a great thing that I wish I would have Realized a long time ago. I used to think trying hard was like for losers. Yeah, you know this guy Fucking put an effort in what a ding dong, you know, bro That's so captivating because yeah when you're like if you're kind of going through school and stuff when you're high school

And it's like there's some dude trying real hard. You're like this dude is a nerd. Yeah, what a loser Yes, yeah But then you kind of get around in your own late in your life You're like, oh man, if I took what I net some of the natural blessings that I've had And applied some hard work to them Yeah, damn, maybe it could be lights out man. I was living in that condo in downtown austin Dry wall dog. I'll be hanging dry wall in my lungs and there's a bar on top of that building That's a residence only that's open from like four to two a.m. Every night

Looking over the city there's a super dope place to live. I'd never lived in the city before I'd always lived, you know on land or out in the country or whatever and um, like inside the city like that I'd never lived there and uh And I wanted to do it and so it was a lot of fun. It really was it had a lot of good times. Um, but It just and and I think anything any advice I give to a young dude. I'm like set your time Pick your age like you're gonna go as hard as you can fucking go. You're gonna party until 28 or 35 or 25 whatever it is and then that's your heart out and after that it's time to try hard game So

That's good advice man. We had a question coming here about suggestion right here from a young fella. Let's get to it real quick here What up the uh, what up parker? It's questions for parker. So parker. I'm getting ready to move to Nashville as a songwriter and I was wondering what advice would you have for Making those industry connections and getting in better rooms and just what advice would you give somebody getting ready to move to Nashville to try and do it Appreciate y'all gang. Yeah, gang baby Man, I don't know. Uh, it's kind of a general question, but he seems sincere about it. Yeah. I mean dude, it's it's uh

It kind of goes back to the trying hard thing man. I mean you can you don't have to live here You really don't George Straits the king of country music. He's never lived in Nashville never moved here Uh, I moved here because I had to get out of what I was just talking about in Austin Like I had to go somewhere had to get out and and that was my Like the only option for me at the time and I can't wait to move back and buy a ranch uh and move back to texas, but Man it some of the people are here. There's a lot of people trying to do it Uh, but if you don't know what you're trying to say and you don't know

Who you're trying to be or who you want to be Then it's going to take a long time to figure it out in this town Um, I think you have to know like when I when I started coming here randy rogers from the randy rogers band was managed Me at the time. He's the one who told me to come here. He's like dude. I think he could be a superstar But you got to go to this town and do it. I didn't want to come I didn't want to come here And even when I started coming here, I would call him and I'd be like dude I don't want to be here anymore. Like I'm I don't want to come back and he's like you need to like just trust me And it was the greatest decision I ever made shout out randy rogers. Um, and uh, and so

To that young man right there, dude, I would just say know what you're coming here to do before You know what I mean? Like what kind of what do you really want to be? You just want to be a songwriter then you need to have some songs That are absolutely as stout as a song can be as well written as they can be so when you come here you have a little something to To bargain, you know, you have a little something to negotiate with It's kind of like when I signed my record deal. I was already selling a bunch of tickets all over Right. So I had all the the ball was kind of in my court on the record deal I didn't have to sign one. I wanted to sign one, right?

So same thing as a songwriter if you're coming here trying to get a publishing deal Have a little something to publish going already, you know and be like, hey, I've I've got these songs You know have a little something and and you know, you don't just want to come in empty handed And you get signed into a bad deal because you don't know any better and you don't have anything to offer So that's a great point, man. Yeah, and I think knowing what you have planned I noticed at the comedy store in Los Angeles. That's like a popular comedy spot right there and uh And there'll be people that go there they make the mecca out from wherever, you know to different cities or wherever town They're from they get the you know, and I'm gonna live here

And then some of them choose to just be somebody that sits on the ports and drinks there every every every other night, you know It's like Okay, that's fine. It's definitely a way to be, you know, but it's like Are there you really living out what your goal was, you know, some people that yeah, they just They'll move to LA and they'll get invited all these parties and stuff But then there's up in the hills doing coke every night and it's like You know five years go by and it's like, okay. Well, what were some of your goals and aspirations? Do you really have any?

Yeah That's a you know, I wish I'd have set some of those lines in my own life at certain points like same dude Well, dude, I just really I realized like as organically as you can watch it unfold and like the people around me. I was like Man, nobody's like Nobody's coming over to my house to party, but nobody's trying to make any money Nobody's trying to build a career nobody's trying to hustle And it just took me like going to the bottom of that hole to be like

Fuck dude trying hard and taking care of your business and acting like a grown man That's cool shit. Yeah, like that's not for losers. Right. It's really fucking cool. Yeah, and I just it took me a little longer to realize it then I wish and dude you think about some people never get there Some people never realize that some people realize it when they're 60 Some people are born like that. I guess like my sister. She was born like that. She just hustling out the womb. Yeah Oh, yeah, some little babies come out with a watch. Yeah, dude. I like they're they're just destined to hustle and everything's success Yeah, you'll see a baby son. I'll cut their own umbilical cord. Absolutely, dude. Like dang it. I uh I think my sister made probably Michael was probably one of those people. Um, but yeah, I don't know. It's uh

I wish I would have realized that younger But you're not you're not old. No, you know, you still got a lot of time. Yeah, and your music is kind of like, um You still make music that almost feet It's funny because your music makes me feel Your music makes me feel I feel young when I listen to your music That's done. You know, uh, so I feel I don't feel like it has Because it only can have I feel like music can really only have as much history as you have If somebody's really to believe it from yeah, you're right what you know, right? Yeah, and this look I don't know anything about music

I'm just a person with two ears but um But yeah, your music makes me feel like I don't know I sing along to it, you know, I feel like Man, my sister's it's not You know, like nowadays in country music, there's so much pop influence. Yeah, like a ton. It's like basically rap in a way pop music And uh in like like wallin is like that's the greatest pop country. I've ever heard in my life Yeah, like he it is the songs the production his voice is so fucking good, dude

But I like that's just not like I love that I have that to listen to I love that that's what he's doing, but like I'm so boring, dude I just like writing sad country love songs about everything going terribly wrong. Yeah And yeah, dude, that's what this whole podcast is about half the time. Yeah Well, dude, I just that's like what I love and I'm and I'm like it's kind of hard to You know, it's like so so much of the of the genre of country music especially in Nashville is so pop influenced and mine's just mine's not and so it's like I really struggle all the time. I learn I write songs. I'm like

Who the fuck is gonna listen to this shit? You know, it's not making you bob your head It's not making you want to dance or drink beer like it's making you want to go fucking text old gal that you swore You would never talk to again Kind of big feelings. Yeah, dude. That's that's my favorite songs, dude It's my favorite favorite kind of song. So, you know lamenting thinking about things looking back, you know And I think what's interesting about it. Here's what it is for such a guy for a guy at your age to have a some of that Perspective you don't get a lot of that sometimes. Yeah, so I think that's what I think is really enjoyable about it Because it makes me feel kind of young and old at the same time. That's dope

Because there's some perspective in it, you know, it's a lot of looking back. It's a lot of like Like you're driving away from something. I feel like a lot of times. Yeah, you know, a lot of leaving Yeah, a lot of like this is the record I'm writing right now like every song's about going somewhere and leaving and I'm like Who the fuck wants to listen to this shit? You know, hopefully a lot of people but the oven I'll listen, baby Dude, I thought your name for I listed you for a long time before I realized that your name was Theo Vaughan I thought it was the oven. Yeah. Did you ever get that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yes. I'm not the only one Okay. Yeah, because I would always be like, dude, you guys know this guy the oven I'm like, fuck you, don't matter. Yeah

From Albuquerque? It's two names, bro. From Albuquerque. Yeah, Albuquerque, Terakie, dude Uh, let's get into one more question that came from a uh From a fan for you. So I just want to make sure so that we got so you started out music. You started out in Texas Yeah You and where'd you get your first instrument? Where'd you get into music? I just want our listeners to know everything about you because some of my listeners may not know of you No, 99% of them don't um, and they're probably going to be like who's gonna love you though Who's the dipshit winning the gold chains? Um, you saved the day today. Thank you. You did. I appreciate that

As a for my first time ever must be known. Um, blue ribbon for that, man Dude, my I played like or like everybody in like fifth and sixth grade was wanting to be in the band And I was like, fuck that dude. No one's doing orchestra. I'm gonna do orchestra. I just started playing the violin And then can you still play that? Fuck no and then Um, my mom bought me a guitar Um, just because she had got my brother wanted one for christmas And she didn't want me to be all upset that I didn't get one Right

So she bought me one and and my brother would never fucking teach me anything Like he would never like I'd be like, yeah, we teach how to play that and he'd be like, fuck out of my room And uh, and so I really just had to like, you know, I'd like learned on like the internet once the internet very first Like there was a thing called cowboy lyrics On the internet back in the day and you could look up like chords how to play and I would learn how to play chris night songs and uh, that's when I was in like seventh grade And I wrote this song called one man mariachi band And it was about like going to Mexico and running away and starting a one man mariachi band

And uh, so that was and then I in my my mom was like, that's pretty good So I like kept doing it, you know, and then I wrote a song my freshman year high school called permanent headphones It's not on internet or anything anymore. I think you'd find on soundcloud and uh, my brother was like dude Like he came up from college and and I played that song for him permanent headphones and he was like He's like, dude, you're gonna be the next George straight and I was like Damn, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah, dude. I was like like

Ease up on that, dude, you know Uh, but it was him saying shit like that and stealing that confidence in me that I actually might be good at it Um, and so I just I fell in love with it, dude I was like, I mean, I you know, all my buddies when I was in junior high and high school listened to like at the time it was like chameleon air and um, like flow ride uh, and yeah, all these rappers that were big in like the mid 2000s Yeah, and I was listening to chris night and adam carol and slade cleaves and james at merchant robert o'keen and randy rogers and pat green and crostina ragweed and

Um, I mean just all these great songwriters. I was like obsessed with it and uh, todd snider I was just uh, and completely obsessed with it Um, and I had no friends that listened to that So it was kind of like and then once I got into high school and I was like I was a real average athlete like I wouldn't go to play college ball clearly and I was like your heart, huh? No not at all, dude, and I was like Because I would like realize when I was like a sophomore in high school. I was like I was like, I'm not faster than anybody But I can play guitar and sing better than every one of those son of bitches

And so my junior year in high school. I was walking out of the workout and I told my head coach I was like, um, I'm gonna quit football and go play guitar and he's like that's the biggest mistake of your life Also, he's a texas football coach. He has to say that. Yeah, it's the only line He has like if you pull the string on his back. I've seen days and confused. Yeah, and you know pink And yeah, he doesn't want to sign the contract. He didn't want to play on the team He's a quarterback. He's real lazy. Okay. I was like and that's like one of my favorite movies of all time And I was just dead set on being that guy

And all my buddies were like, dude, you're such an idiot for quitting football. What are you doing? And I was like, yeah Like that and now what are you doing? And now every now every one of them's like Damn, dude. I saw you on television. Yeah Y'all see about the limestone. Yeah, let's go. You see me on tail Vaughn. Oh my god gang, baby Shout out my buddy Jeff Bean if he's watching this man. He was super stoked. I was coming on here today. He's a big fan Was he? Yeah. Well, thanks Jeff, bro. Praise God, bro. Praise God Yeah, I'm trying to think of what else to talk about man. I think we got I think we got a good dose of of you, man I don't want to keep us super underwhelming dude. I always apologize when people come up master pitchers and stuff

I'm like, I wish I was cooler to meet. It's like, I'm sorry. I'm super underwhelming Being met is underwhelming though. Yeah being met. I feel like it's like you can't get met Yeah, you can't like compete with what you're capable of or whatever your skill is. It's like as a human you falter to feel like You know, people will be like yesterday I do come between the airport, bro I was like it was the plane delays and blah, blah, blah, blah, like the dude's like, are you deal Vaughn, bro? And I was like not today. I'm not yeah I said fucking not today. The airport the airport can be the worst because usually like if you're on your way It's like a Thursday and you're flying somewhere to start the weekend. Yeah

You're like, oh, yeah, fuck out. Let's take some pictures like good to see y'all too. But if it's on Sunday And you're like a connecting flight home, you know, and you just feel so shitty or so hungover and you got people mobbing in the airport. It's like Fuck this, you know, but you know, I'm always trying to be as sweet as I can be Oh, totally be patient with them take the pictures, but I'm just always like dude. I'm sorry. I wish I was like I just write sad country songs. Yeah, there's nothing very impressive about it. Yeah. I apologize, baby I'm just I'm basically the sub musical Kleenex. Yes, you know Um Parker, thanks so much, man. Honestly, bro. You really made my day, man. I mean, I just

And I hate to you know, make it about me. It was just a fuck it. It was just hectic yesterday And I was like, how do I do because I was like, how do I get my feelings in my mental back to a regular level where I can just have a Conversation that's heavy shit. Did you say sounds like it was some heavy shit? So it was just yeah I've been through that with it was someone in in my family back home and uh, it's still it's he's still going through it He's still battling that every single day and And so I've I mean I I get it dude 100% I've been down that road with them Well, thanks, man. Thanks for being understanding. No sweat, dude. Yeah. Thanks for carrying the show today, bro

He really did. I'm just glad to be here, dude. I'm a big fan. I've watched it a lot I still think the Ray Charles reverse ghost joke Is one of the greatest jokes I've ever heard. I tell it all the time and uh, I heard that and I was like I want to go on that show. Oh, dude. Well, that's awesome, man. Yeah, I appreciate it, bro Yeah, I didn't know what it was going to be like, man. You really saved the day today. So thank you, dude Yeah, thanks for coming through uh parking my column guys if you guys haven't heard him Check out his music, man If you like if if you're listening to this podcast

Then a lot of his music is going to fit right Uh, it's going to fit right inside of your heart, man all 1.3 to 5 leaders, baby All all three leaders baby the baby pool. Yeah gang, baby You You