This Past Weekend - E422 Yung Gravy

Episode Date: December 13, 2022

Yung Gravy is an American rapper and platinum-selling artist. He is currently on tour supporting his new album “Marvelous”.  Yung Gravy sits down with Theo to discuss proper katana technique, stalkers, MILF-ing, catching bras on-stage, the time Gravy broke into a tire shop, and more. https://www.youtube.com/@yunggravy  ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com Podcastville mugs and prints available now at https://theovon.pixels.com ------------------------------------------------- Support our Sponsors: ClickUp: Visit https://clickup.com/ to get 15% off ClickUp’s massive unlimited plan with code THEO. BlueChew: Visit https://bluechew.com/ to try Bluechew free with code THEO at checkout. ShipStation: Visit https://shipstation.com to get a 60 day free trial with code THEO. BetterHelp: Visit https://betterhelp.com/theo to save 10% off your first month. Manscaped: Visit https://manscaped.com/theo to get 20% off plus free shipping.  ------------------------------------------------- Music: "Shine" by Bishop Gunn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3A_coTcUek ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [e-mail] Hit the Hotline: [phone] Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: http://www.theovon.com/fan-upload   Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reinerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Also, the new Gang Gang crew necks in orange and purple and gold fits. We got the new Rat King t-shirt in purple and black. That thing. That's the thing, baby. If you haven't seen that one, check it out. TheoVonStore.com. Today's guest is a rapper. He's a composer. He's a male fiance, if you want him to be. He's a vibe. He's an energy. And I went to his show the other night. Had a great time. He's on tour right now. Fresh off his new album, Marvelous. He's been in once before and we're happy to have him back. Today's guest is young Ravey. Oh, man. Dude, uh, Ravey, baby. Theo. What's up, baby? I'm good, man. It feels good to have a couple of days off right now. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for coming in, man. I, uh, and we didn't

play on this also. We didn't play on this. Yeah. Can we have the camera right there? Yeah. With all the odds of this. Yeah. So I walked up with this purple sweater on and I was like, damn, how cute. And then he pulls out the chains too. This is very, uh, it's a beautiful moment. Damn. We're a couple of, uh, a couple of lavender scavengers. That's something. There you go. That's what riffraff would call us. What's that for? My shoe also. Dang, baby. Damn. Right next to the ankle brace. You know the vibes. God, bro. I love that shit. Like if you, if you're going out, you're going to, uh, DFW dog. Oh, no. VFW? No. If you break out the house, you're going to DSW shoes, baby. Oh, DSW, bro. I thought you meant, I thought you meant, I was,

you were just trying to say some shit about VFW. Like I'm going to hang out with the, Oh, the troops? The veterans. Yeah. I was like, yeah, man. Whenever Bobby Lee comes on stage, I'll always say like, uh, or if I go on after him at the comedy store, I'll always be like, I'll always tell the kind of like, I'm going to drop you off at a VFW and let those boys finish things. Dude, I always tell them that because I think they, I'll let some of those guys fall out like Vietnam. Yeah. Bro, your show. So I went to your show the other night. Thank you very much for coming. Yeah. For setting me up. Um, dude, it was like, there's so many. Did you see the guy? There was a guy who brought his mother in and earned.

Did you see this guy? No, I did not. Yeah. There's a guy who brought his mother in and earned and he's like, Grave, he was my mom's favorite. She was like the milk, you know, the milk with the most or something he said. And I was like, there's no way this dude's mother is in this earn. And she was, man. Was he in the back or was he on stage? I mean, I'm sorry, in the crowd or was he, he was on the crowd and you just thought you spoke with him or you just yelled that shit out? Oh no, I spoke with him. Oh wow. Yeah. So I was like, wow, you have people, non-living people coming. Yeah, man. We want one over capacity. I know. I wonder if they, if they charge them a ticket for it. Um, no, bro, it was crazy,

man. I love the fact you, uh, there's one thing that I noticed about your whole, the whole thing you have going on to me. It's like, you kind of never know what's going to happen a little bit. It's like a, it's, it's like an energy. It's a music, but it's like, do you want to be along for this journey? And you had, uh, Soulja Boy came out. You had Jesse McCartney. That was crazy. Yeah, man. Yeah. We just, with this show or this tour, uh, myself and baby no money, the, my co-headliner. Yeah. And he did a, he, dude, he, I, I, I, I wasn't familiar with him and that was great, man. He's sick. The whole thing, just the energy was great, but go on. So yeah, you got baby no money. So we've, we've, we've, we've been boys for like six years and we're

like, yo, he used to open for me and then he had some hits and he's really that kind of reached like, we're kind of neck and neck, like same level, like we're fucking doing this together. So I was like, yo, you got to do a big co-headline tour, but we got to make it epic. So like we put so much money into like the production and like planning it out. We made like seven little acts that you probably saw where it's like both of us and then one of us and then the other one and then both and then blah, blah, blah. Let me fit in soldier boy and Freddie Dredd and, and Jesse and yeah, Freddie Dredd. I met him. He's sick. He's sick. Yeah, dude. He seemed like an Amish guy that had fucking gone off as far as you could go from the Amish. He's like, I'm about to remix the whole

damn Bible dude. That does have that. It's crazy because he's like a quiet, like chill little guy, but, but his lyrics are crazy. He's talking about murdering people and shit. He loves you, man. He was so grateful to be a part of it. He's fire, man. I love the music. I, um, yeah, but just the whole thing. Yeah. You like go through these moments. It's like, like the lights will get down low and there's like people kind of slow dance and then people touching their own tits. I saw people touching their own tits. You don't see a lot of that. And yeah, it was like, and then it gets to like these, like kind of these crescendo levels where it's just, it was just fun, man. I'm glad you could see it, bro. We literally play, I think it's 40 songs. I think it's 41.

Wow. Throughout that set. Yeah. We don't do the full thing of every song, but yeah, I think we did about 41. It's like two hours set. And I love how it came out. Love how it came out. I found myself just, dude, I was just, I was just, it was good. It was cute girls there, man. I met a couple of girls. Yeah, baby. I think I came up and dapped you up during like the soldier boy set. Yeah, you did. I had to sneak out with a little Montclair jacket on and I was like all hidden. Yeah. Kind of hard to hide. I mean, literally the tallest guy in the world comes by in a jacket. It was like the abominable fucking flow, man, bro. Abominable flow, man. That's hard. That's what it was, man. So tell me a little bit about touring then because is this the biggest tour

you've ever done? Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say like this tour as a whole is the most tickets that we've ever like sold on one tour. Yeah. Cause you guys had 4,000 in there the other night. Yeah. That was fire. And like some of the shows, my hometown, Minneapolis, we did 7,800, which is ridiculous. We got Seattle coming up. That's about 8,000. I'd say the average is like, I don't know, 3,500, maybe 4,000, but like. Man, that's incredible. Yeah. I toured with Dylan Francis in February and it was, it was a little bit smaller, but it was, it was sick. It was, wow, they're all sold out too. But this one just like went off. Like we both had big years, me and myself, maybe no money. And it's sick to see it, man. It's sick to see people so hyped.

We do meet and greets every day and there's like all these, that's my favorite part of it is a meet and greets where there's these fans that like, you know, I really mean some of them and they'll bring like, like a dope story from their life about how I helped them or they'll bring me like a little gift that like they made and put some time into and that's it. Isn't that amazing? Isn't it amazing when you think like, we had, somebody brought this one time, you made, you chiseled this, right? That's gorgeous. Yeah. That type of thing. I love it. Someone made me a katana, a gold, a gold, a fully gold encrusted full size katana sword. And that's for just, you could do is that, bring up a katana. There's that. Let's see it. Dude, I wonder if I can bring up the one

that I have. Man, it's gold. It's covered in. Yeah. I mean, the dude gave me that, but it's covered in gold and it says young gravy all over it. The handles and everything are purple, just like our outfits. It's, it's, it's gorgeous. Man. And imagine being able to defend yourself with that one day. Somebody rolls on on the tour bus, she gets out of hand and that is how you save. Yo, I got a whole like, I had a whole, I don't know if we ever talked about this before, but I had a whole phase where I had like multiple different stalkers and I actually have another katana. And I mean, that wasn't the reason I bought it. I was just drunk. I wanted a sword, but I had, back in Minnesota, my mom's home, I had some stalkers that were. So you were living at

home with your mother? Yeah, this was during COVID and I had kids that I was like the early COVID era and I had some kids that were, there's multiple different kids that like I grew up with that knew where I lived and knew a lot about me, but kind of went crazy, went cuckoo. One of them had like schizophrenia, one of them had like level three bipolar where they're seeing things and and he would like, they'd like send me little messages with them, like breathing and whatnot, like weird like movie, horror movie type stuff. Wow. And was it spooky? It was pretty spooky, man. I mean, it was, I wasn't that worried. I mean, I was worried about myself, but I was more worried about my mom because they knew that she lived there and I was gone a lot. You're gone.

I was gone a lot and I didn't want to stress her out. So I was like, I like kind of, I mean, she knew I was putting up the security system, but I kind of just like didn't stress why. I was like, let's put up a security system. You know, I got a lot of fans. Yeah, but these trip wires out here like, bro, and there was like moments where they would like start threatening me and like coming like near my house and like giving me information. There was one time where, where, so I had this katana. That's what we're getting back to. I bought a katana when I was drunk and then there was one time where that was all I had and I was in my, I was downstairs in my house, like in like the basement. There's big, big ass windows on both sides of this basement, right?

And you can see all over like the backyard and the front yard and this dude was like claiming that he was at my house, this, this stalker fella. So I'm sitting there with a katana, dude, and I'm just like thinking about it. I'm like, dude, what am I going to do? Like, how am I going to slice this? Bad or up baby Kirby? Fuck it, dude. It was crazy, bro. Crack that bitch, dog. Damn. Yeah, man. So in the end, man, I actually, I pulled some strings. I got a fan to bring me a weapon, like a firearm. And I ended up realizing after that that you can actually just legally buy a shotgun in Minnesota. So I got that. Yeah. And luckily, like right as everything was peaking, this dude that was gonna, that was threatening me and coming to my house,

a homebrew of mine called the cops and they showed up at his workplace and they found an unregistered pistol on him and he's, he's locked up. Other kids in an asylum. It was a third one that's not even worth getting into, but he's, he's also locked up. Do you worry? So do you know, like their release dates and stuff? Or are you worried about that like kind of thing? Because do you think they blame it? Those guys are sitting in there like listening to your tracks, but also fucking, you know, getting jacked to them and stuff and like, you know, like the release dates of their schizophrenia. What do you mean? No, like release dates of like, when did they get out of these assailants? Like, are they in there? Like, are they fucking revenge lifting?

You know, cause they'll be dudes in there. Yeah. They slow like some, you seen Cape Fear? Um, yeah. Yeah. I've seen it. I've been there. Been to Cape Fear. Yeah. Like Cape Fear, like some fully tatted back shit. I don't know. I, I hoping that it's all good. There's certain cities now that I go to where I was bring security. But you know, I just have a fear about it. Because you know, I watched too many scary movies, but I have a fear of like someone getting a hold of me and like getting me like tied up in a chair and doing weird shit to me, man. It's my worst fear. Damn. Other than whales. Oh, like whales. You don't scare me. Just a big ass animal. I'm like, if you're in the water and it's, yeah, what is it about? And you think, Oh, I guess

if you're in the water and a whale shows up, you have zero chance. It's like you're floating around in the water. Let's say you're in the middle, middle of nowhere. There's water. That's the ocean. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what I was. My bad. My bad. No, no, no, but thank you for clarifying in the, you're in the ocean, in the middle of nowhere. And you know, you're just floating, trying to stay, stay afloat and then some goddamn big ass whale pulls up. You see that first, dude. First, you see that in the distance. You're like, bro, I'm, I'm, I'm stressing right now. I think about it, bro. That's crazy. And what do you even do? Then there's not much you can do. I think if you, is it something you urinate around you, it won't come by you. What is that?

Shark? Maybe. I heard that was sharks. I don't know about whales. I'm really scared of sharks, too, man. All that shit. Maybe jellyfish. If you pee on a jellyfish or something, it'll leave you alone. No, if you, if you get stung by jellyfish, then you're supposed to pee on the, on the sting. Oh, damn. But dude, I would pee. I mean, the only thing you could do is probably pee, I think would probably keep it away from you. I don't know. I don't know. Do whales go away from urine? Can you run that? Yeah, I'm Googling it. I think I would just accept my fate, man. I think I would just lay there, close my eyes and be like, it's like I can swim away from that motherfucker. But, but, but whales don't eat people. It would be an accident if it ate me.

You see that whale swallow those two girls? Yeah, I'll be on the canoe. Yeah. Oh, that was crazy, dude. Bro, can you even imagine? And it, it sent those bitches back to hook. Yeah, they survive. They survive, but imagine being a whale's mouth and then coming out and then living the rest of your life. Imagine getting rejected by a whale. Obviously these, these chicks don't have guys. I mean, out there together, you know what I'm saying? Like imagine rejected by a whale, man. Hey, I don't think whales can even like digest the human man. I think I, I'm just afraid of them like whipping me with their tail or some shit. You know what I'm saying? And you're taller too. I think that's one of the disadvantages of being tall is there's this, there's more of you to get

hit. There's more you to get caught in a woodchipper. There's more of you to get in a woodchip or just like anything, anything that's loose. If there's something, you know, a machine, there's a lot, you have a, there's a more of a landscape, you know, it's like, I don't know. I have to, I have to worry about probably a foot less than you. See, one thing that I've been told by friends and I kind of think is, is a fact is that I'm, I'm sick between six, seven and six, eight, but like my brain, I think only really is aware of like six, five. So I have like an extra like two inches of my body that just kind of, I'm a little, I'm not clumsy, but like I'm good about hitting my head on shit, hitting my arms on shit, breaking bones. Like I think I'm just like a little

bit, my brain hasn't caught up to the height. I don't know if it ever will. Wow, that's fascinating, man. I just, I didn't know that something like that could happen to people because they say also, if you lose an arm somewhere and you like punch somebody, you can still almost feel like you're punching somebody. The Phantom Pan should be so interesting to me. One of our old tour bus drivers just got his leg amputated and it like, like I was just really curious. I mean, he's my boy. I said, dude, Keith, shout out to Keith. Was he a smoker? No, he, he got a like a like an infection in his ankle or something and just didn't treat it. And like, I guess enough time went by, we had to amputate his leg up to like here, upper thigh. He sent me

a picture. It was crazy. But that's my boy. So I like wanted to learn more about it. And like, like, it's really interesting how that Phantom pain works, you know, Phantom limb activity. Yeah, it's just amazing. Your limb is like, yeah, you think I'm gone, bitch. Your brain, I can't remember what my brain would feel like, man. Yeah, it's crazy that are so it just, it starts to make you wonder what different interesting things are there about our brain because bring up Phantom pains act. Um, Phantom pain is pain that feels like it's coming from a body part that's no longer there. Doctors once believed this post amputation phenomenon was a psychological problem.

But experts now recognize these real sensations originating in the spinal cord. So it's like, you don't even have the arm, but like your, your cells are telling you that there's some shit there and it hurts. Yeah. It just makes me wonder like, what our brain can really do? Like, are we met? Cause that's kind of, that's some wild shit. There's a lot of wild shit, man. I swear to God. I was doing DMT earlier today and I was like, today, today. Yeah. Yeah. Well, with a pen, you can just hit it and it's kind of casual, you know? And I was just thinking about it. I was like, man, like, I was looking at all my boys. I was kind of hungover. I wasn't like feeling perfect. And then I was like, like, damn man, like this,

is this a good for me right now? It was bad for me. But my brain was just like focusing on so many things at once. And it's like, you know, they say you only use like 20% of your brain or something. Yeah. And I feel like there's been moments when I was on acid, where I was, I don't know, maybe it's just me being all excited or whatever. But I was like, Oh, I'm using that other music, at least another 5% right now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, this. Yeah. When you find an extra gear. Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, God. I almost took way too much of my anti-depressant on accident. I hadn't taken it in two weeks. And I thought I was taking like just a half of a dose, but I grabbed the wrong one and it was

like three times the normal dose. But I hadn't taken it in weeks. And I like went like this weird super sand mode where I was like, thinking fast as shit. And I felt like a genius, bro. I was like, but it actually was good ideas. I actually planned out a whole set for a tour, all this stuff. And I, my heart was racing. So like, I don't think I'm going to do it again. But I still was kind of in like super sand mode. Like, yeah. Was it almost like an Adderall or what was it? Like, I mean, like a super Adderall. I take Adderall every day. It was like a super crazy Adderall. Like my brain, it was like I had two brains. Wow. Crazy. It's Lamotrogen. If you guys take Lamotrogen. Lamotrogen? Lamotrogen. It's

probably not healthy to do to do it. But if you ever really need some inspiration, maybe try weaning off and then bust on a couple of Lamots. Wow. I take Lamot. I take Lexa Pro. Yeah. Lexa Pro. I'm a fucking Lexa Pro. I take Lamotrogen and Trentellix. Those are like my two. It's pretty similar. But yeah. I'm a Lexa Pro. You a Lexa rookie. Wonder if that'd be a good fucking bar you think? Like some pro you a Lexa rookie. Maybe not. I'm getting cookie and nookie. Yeah. I had so much old bookie. What? All right. So take me on this DMT. Like you just hit the pin. So the pin, that thing will reorganize you though. I had a man take me one time, a man and a woman. I met them at this

smoothie shop, right? It was this dude who's like a shaman or like part-time shaman and his wife and they took me back to their house. They had a DMT like pin. They were making them in Maui. Next, you know, I'm sitting there. They had children and everything. They had a little bowl of cashews or something. I remember. And next thing you know, bro, I went into the dam. I was out there, baby. I fucking just slipped off. You did the blast off. You did the blast off. Because yeah, if you hit it enough, it's crazy. If you get over that hill, it's like you go over to a hill in the back of your head. It's like going on a rock bottom from SpongeBob. But it's lit though. Is that what you did today? No, no, no. I wasn't going that hard. See, I haven't been able to

reach that without like actually smoking the physical shit. And it's a lot harder to get in the pens. Today, it was just chill. I was trying to introduce some of my friends to that. I was peer-pressuring people and they're doing it. I had to do it first. It's fun. It's fun to see someone do it the first time because they don't believe it's going to happen. That was the thing. I couldn't believe it happened. It was like a moving truck showed up full of like star dust and fucking. It was like a LGBTQ fucking Royal Rumble and like a bunch of African drums and everything. And they all showed up and fucking helped move all the furniture out of the back of my soul. Can you elaborate a little bit on you said LGBTQ Royal Rumble, meaning? Oh, dude,

it was like the whole rainbow was in that bitch. You know, I mean, every day had colors that had never even taken their code off. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it was like every, I mean, it was just ROY G. Bibb. You know, he was out. I mean, it was colorful as hell. I thought you meant there was like like trainee dicks flying and oh, I'm not. I'm sure some stuff was going on the back that I guaranteed. Guaranteed. It was behind. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Every now and then. Yeah. You'd hear something, dude. You'd hear something squeal, you know, and you couldn't tell the gender of it. Shit was getting weird. You got to be, you got to be in a good mindset. Cause I remember one of the first times I ever did it. It was in Montana. I was living at this commune and I was, uh,

it was my first time ever trying it. And I was in his basement and the, the landlord was the one who's put me on the DMT was the only drill. I was getting tested all the time because of my, my probation. And it was the only drug that doesn't show up. And he was making it in the kitchen every day. So I said, fuck it. And, uh, he put on this like, I was like, oh, let's put on some chill music. Like I want to like hear like some Mac Donmarco or something. He puts on this like tribal like drums and like squealing and shit. And I was just like, man, I was in a weird place, bro. I was like, I had a great first trip, but it was like, um, like tripping like in my whole space in my head, like seeing all this shit. And then I'll wake up a little bit and I hear like

like some crazy, that's not kind of racist, isn't it? Just kind of like a, you know what I'm saying? Just like, like, like weird ass noises, you know, it wasn't even singing. It was like, like strings playing that, that, that type of melody and banging drums and all this shit. And I was like, man, it was just not, nothing. Tis the season for clean balls and body. Time to get your hair on your body. Tighten. Just dang trim it down, baby. God. Refind your wiener, refine your nipples, get the hair off your body if you want. Manscaped can help. They help you clear your driveway for safe travels this holiday season. You know what I'm talking about. Body hair. Manscaped products are at the top of every wish list. They offer a handful of different products, liquid formulations, shampoos, body washes, body deodorants, gels, exfoliants. They do it all. Don't let your chestnuts roast in the wrong boxers. Get yourself a pair of manscaped boxers, specifically made to keep your area cool, crotch area. That's right. Dad has nasty nose hairs. Trim the mitches. You get them. Save his life with the weed, whacker, nose and ear hair trimmer. I use that thing. You know, you could speed-lunk in my snout, baby, so I use that thing. Save 20% off in free shipping by going to manscaped.com slash th e o. That's right. 20% off in free shipping by going to manscaped.com slash thio. Manscaped for a perfect gift that will be the holiday's biggest hit. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. If there's something in your life that's making you uncomfortable, making you unable to manage, making you unable to have peace, well, BetterHelp can figure that out for you and with you. That's right. BetterHelp therapists are trained to help you figure out the cause of challenging emotions and learn productive coping skills. BetterHelp has connected over 3 million people with licensed therapists. It's convenient and accessible anywhere, 100% online. I've used BetterHelp and I've found it to be effective. I've found it to be exactly what it says it is.

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I couldn't do that shit. Oh, because you were in probation. So what were you doing to try to save money or was it like a religious thing? Well, I was there because, oh, this is perfect, bros. I heard you were in a cult. Yeah. All right, we'll get to that in a sec. So what happened with me was I was arrested in Georgia for some dumb shit. I was wrong place, wrong time, friends house, but I literally got charged with two charges of breaking and entering, two charges of criminal trespassing, and then like two felonies for like Xanax and wax.

Because it's in Georgia. That's what it is. So I got all these goddamn charges for this bullshit that like we were just wrong place, wrong time. And I got basically, they realized that they had fucked up, the local police did. So then the judge gave me a plea deal where like everything would get dropped except for one misdemeanor. Did you get to pick which one of the judge kept it? He kept it. It was criminal trespassing. I got another one like two years later in Georgia for breaking into a tire store. That's a whole different. So don't go to Georgia is kind of the place.

Georgia is where I fuck up. Yeah. Anyways, I had a good friend from high school who managed a thrift shop in Bullsman, Montana. And I was like, I need to get away from all my friends back home in Minnesota. They're going to convince me to do drugs or something. So I just drove out, brought my boy pressed in. I was like, bro, you just come with me. And he ended up moving there after that because it is a beautiful place. Yeah. But yeah, I moved into this house and he gave us a room with like three mattresses. And then I realized that we had like people, there's people that would sleep in the back in a yurt.

There are people that were sleeping in the front in a truck. And then we would have like every room had two people in it. So it was like, it was like a little commune. We'd have like community dinners and everything and do DMT. It was, it was beautiful. I had a great time. Yeah. It sounds great. It was straight up 24 days straight. I woke up every day and did 10 hours of community service. And then my home did commune shit.

Was everybody there doing community services? Is it kind of a halfway house for people doing community service? No, no, not at all. It was literally just a bunch of goons. And I was the one kid that had to do community service. So they were all going on hikes and going on trips and did all their cool shit. And I was like, every day had to go to, but, but, but, but here was the thing was that part of my plea deal was if you break any law within the next 18 months until you're out of probation, you go to jail for the rest of 18 months. So like if I got a speeding ticket. So that's why I was not on any, I wasn't drinking, I wasn't in any of that shit.

I just played it safe, played it safe. Just 10, 10 hours a day. I'm going to do DMT, but other besides that, 10 hours a day community service. And what was the community service you were doing? I was working at thrift shop. Oh, really? That's kind of cool. It wasn't bad. There's really nice ladies, like older ladies. Which is every shop in Bozeman, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I did that. And then I also did, this was interesting.

So the, uh, he's on like the board of the, like one of the chairs of like the whole city. I don't know. I was to Billy. He was a councilman, something like that. But he also owned the local sex shop. And it was interesting little combo where I was like kind of helping out. I was helping out at the sex shop, but I was also doing like this whole social media promo for this like suicide prevention walk. And I was dude, it was, I was just taking every single hour I could get. Cause I did not want to go to jail at all. That was like right when I started popping off with music and I was like, dog, I cannot.

Man. So do you think it was the fact that you were popping off with music that was keeping you out of staying out of trouble too? Cause you were like, you had finally something pretty big on the way and on the other side of the scale. No, I think either way I would have, man, like the thought of going to jail for 18 months was, was. You didn't want it. I would never. Now looking back with being a rapper, being entertained, do you wish you had that jail time? Not at all.

I don't think anyone would. Yeah. I mean, just, I mean, like just for like, for credibility. Yeah. Just for like, just clout, just to have a little bit of fucking cell clout, you know? No, no, no, no, no. I got the charges, man. And I beat them.

I think that's, that's, that's cell cloud right there. That's a win. That's a win. Um, so I noticed also at your show. So do you think of yourself? What do you, yeah, what do you kind of say? What, what do you kind of, what is your genre? Like your kind of space and music.

I find it to be really kind of interesting, right? Cause it's also about kind of an energy and ambience. You know, there's this romantic kind of side to it all. Um, and it's not like traditional music. It's not like really instruments really. So like, where do you kind of like, is it, do you, does that feel challenging to kind of keep, it's almost like a, like what kind of genre would you put it in? I mean, you could say rap, of course, but like, is there, it almost has more of like,

I almost feel like I'm at a, not a carnival, but something. I mean, the show is, is definitely like a, you know, cinematic. We try to do a lot of like theatrics with the show and make it crazy. My music style itself, uh, I mean, I've tried a lot of different beats, but I think like the majority of them are like sample trap beats. Someone once described it as new Memphis. I thought that was badass. Basically like through the three, six mafia, you know, I love them growing up.

So, uh, yeah, man, I mean, my music is just, it's just samples that I love and banging 808s. And then I spit, just what comes to mind, which is, you know, it's fun. Yeah. Here's what I'm realizing. Finally, it's more about you. It's like, I go to, cause I want to be a part of your world. That's what I kind of realized.

I think it's not like, yes. The music is great and, and you get attracted to the beats and everything, but I kind of want to see what is gravy putting together for me. Like you, it really is like a, you're mixing something up. You know, I really feel like you're in the, like literally in the kitchen. You know, that's kind of a feel when I'm with, with your whole world, you know? Um, so what do you see like that moving forward from music? Like, do you see like, because yeah, you're kind of like you, I know you did a, you guys,

you did like a collab or like a sample with little Wayne, I remember, um, and you like at the show, you have Draco out there. You have fucking Jesse McCartney, which was so ridiculous to everybody's like, you're just going to all these different little levels. You're just having such a good time. What do you kind of see? Like, is that kind of tough to keep up? Do you feel like that you're finding your groove even better with being kind of, um,

uh, surprising people like that? Like, does any of this make any sense? Kind of. I love it. I mean, I think one of my like best qualities, but also like sort of, you know, stressful qualities of mine is like, I love making friends and like keeping in touch with people. So like everybody I meet, like if I like, if I fuck with them, I'm going to keep in touch and keep working on stuff like Jesse McCartney.

I met like two or three years ago and I was like, bro, like pop out, same as soldier boy. Um, so I think just like keeping in touch is sort of like the Midwest in me and like wanting to like, you know, give these people a shine if they haven't had one in a little while or whatever it is. Uh, but I want to keep on, you know, working with artists that are kind of outside of my, my lane because I collab, maybe the money a lot. I collab with a couple of the rappers in my space. But like, usually if I get a feature, it's just an artist that I really like that I want

to have on my album. My fans are like these called fans that like they don't really care who the feature is. They just want to listen to my music. So like, I mean, in the past, I've had Young Dolph, RIP. I've had, man, I mean, Juicy Jay, I've had a lot of artists that I love that will kill it on the track and then people will become hip to them, uh, just because I love those artists. So, so I've been thinking about like in the future who I want to collab with.

Uh, it's almost like a podcast is almost like you bring people on for an episode that you like spending time with. And then as you're saying that, it makes me feel like that, you know, a little bit. Um, and you are like that, man. I'll say that anytime you come in town that you're shooting something, you've always inviting me out to be a part of the shoot, man. Yeah, bro.

It's so nice to you, bro. Of course. Um, and, um, yeah, you always kind of feel me and what's going on, you know, you do do a good job of that. It's hard. It's a lot of pressure to probably get a lot of tax. Yeah, I do get a lot. Yeah, that's, that's, that's the issue with it, with the keeping in touch.

Everybody's my texture blown up and I'm like, I'm, you know, I don't want to curb anybody. So, so I keep in touch, but, uh, I'm curious, man, like, like, shit, I got something coming with Michael Buble. Oh, wow. Yeah, I was just thinking who would be really, I wanted to hear your thoughts after you saw a show. Like who should I, who should I work with?

Man, it's so funny because there's a lot of different little, there's a lot of different kind of work. I'm trying to think of like a unique country artist. That would be kind of cool. You know, I'm pretty close with Morgan, Morgan and Hardy. Oh, Morgan loves you. That's right. You were supposed to do, uh, weren't you going to be at their, they had a party a couple

of weeks ago. There was an LA show they were doing that I was going to like pop out at. Yeah, but I couldn't make it because I was on tour. Oh, because I talked to his management. They were asking if I want to come be a part of, I think it was like a big, loud party. Oh, was Morgan's like, man, some man of the year. Oh, yeah. There was that.

Yeah. They were like, gravy's going to come. Morgan loves gravy. And I was like, oh, that's so crazy. What a small world. It's funny. Me, Morgan and Hardy will just like, one of us is drunk. We'll just like face time each other and like just talk about cute shit, man.

It's cute. Wow. Yeah. And then towards him, Hardy and Parker McCallum, which is that's unbelievable. That's so crazy. Hardy's like such like a kid rock. Yeah. It's so interesting.

I'm trying to see because I could almost see you going like, I could see you doing something with like a George straight almost like. I love bringing in artists that are like unexpected. That's what I'm like. I mean, I could see you doing anything with like somebody kind of young. I'm trying to think of something that would be really like. I thought about like, I mean, I actually just got connected with the 50 cent because of Lisa and Lisa and I have become close of 50 cents.

A future one. I like the idea of bringing back like rappers that like, I love growing up to put him on a song now. Yeah. T-Pain. I just got on the track recently. That's so. Yeah.

That's so great, man. I'm trying to think of what would be cool. I mean, obviously doing something like with Morgan Hardy, those guys with big loud with that group would be really sweet. That'll happen for sure. What about a do like a ball like a cool baller with a bed? Yeah. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Like a singing some cute activity, man. Some just. Yeah, dude. What would that be? Trying to think of who? What about there's a younger named Jesse Murph? You know that is? I had some of the worst with Doja Cat, but like we didn't really work out in the end.

Dude, I could see something almost bizarre with like a Sinead O'Connor. She's like an old, she's like a, that song, nothing compares to you. Remember that song? Country. No, she was like. Oh, I need like a like a like a Whitney Houston type RIP. She was like a Whitney Houston. Whitney Houston.

Yeah. That's who she was, man. Word. All right. If you can, brother, help me out here. That's her right there. Sinead O'Connor, man. Yeah.

Oh, and she smokes too. I think she might have smoked her throat out. Who's the girl with the love is a battlefield? Oh, is that Fleetwood Max? No, no. Love is a battlefield. Oh, that's all in Iran stats. Pat Benatar.

Pat Benatar. Let me see her real quick. She's banging. Yeah. Bring up that Patty B. She's live. I'm gonna hit her up right now. Oh, she got to be.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's a player right there. There's a battlefield. I'm gonna sample that at least. Or Sinead. Maybe something dope with Sinead would be dope. He's crazy.

He's fire. Yeah. God, dude. I think we found a way, man. I need to get with some of these epic female artists of the past decades and make something crazy happen. What's kind of what's really neat about you is that you have this, you're like this energy.

So it's almost like you can attach the energy almost to anywhere. You know. Thank you. Yeah. It's cool, man. It's dude. It's exciting. When I came the other night, I was like, wow, I was standing there with Trevor because

I went with Trevor Wallace and we're standing there in the back and we're both just like, man, this is so cool. Hey, just cool that he goes, this is really cool to see one of my friends have success, you know. And I was just like, man, this is just so much. I was just having so much fun. And that was nice. It's like to go to a place and you fucking, you know, you're kind of feeling what, you

know, you're excited when you get there. But then you're like, damn, this is awesome. You got to see the whole show. You're just the whole thing. No, I saw probably, I would say 75%. You leave by the end. Yeah. That is the latest.

It is. Oh, dude, it was getting lit as we're walking out here. I literally was getting fair enough. But I had to work the next morning. You know, I get it. I get it. What? Oh, and then I also saw everybody.

So people's throwing those damn tit mittens the whole time. People are humming those fucking. Yeah. The boulder holder. Oh, baby. People are throwing those damn fucking, those damn fucking, those people had some damn fucking. Some big old tiggies brand. I'm telling you.

Oh, there was breasts. Oh, the bras. And they kept getting caught on the security guards every in front of the stage. That was the best part. It's funny because yeah. Yeah. So that started on one of the first shows. I mean, I always have shows where people throw bras, but those be a few.

Here it is right here. Some people throw in some of them. Titt now. And are they warm when they hit up there? Are they just usually I'll usually, I mean, like sometimes I'll catch them, which is badass. If like someone throws it and I catch it in there and it looks cool. But yeah, man, they are people. Yeah.

I mean, I mean, ever since. So I posted this video about it and then ever since then, now every show I'm getting like a ton. Like I basically promised. I did promise. And yeah, there's a you guys are doing a charity. So I'm donating all the bras, but I'm going to take the value of all them, which kind of was decided amongst the people on like the comments that it's like about 50 bucks a pop

for more of them. Nice bras. Wow. So like based on the amount of the number we get, I'm guessing it'll be like a little I mean, probably a little bit over a thousand because we were at like 800 right now. No, I'll probably be a little more than that. Anyways, I'm going to donate 50 bucks a pop. So it's going to be like quick 60 bands to the breast cancer, man.

Got to do it. It's magical. Yeah. Got to do it. Oh, we have to keep breasts out there. Imagine if suddenly they said, nah, no more breasts. More breasts. Yeah.

Man, that'd be problematic as hell. You remember some of the greatest breasts you've ever seen? Is there a pair? It's breasts are only it's hard to keep a long breast. Don't hold a long time in your head. I feel like it has to be recent breasts. Yeah. That's a good question, man.

Wow. Lisa Ann has pretty cool tits. You know, you guys got together and she's a famous pornographic actress, right? I'm sure I saw her. I don't know. I mean, I used to watch a lot of it. Did you see what she looks like? Let me bring her up, please, Zachary.

You will recognize her, bro. Guaranteed it. Guaranteed it. Oh, wow. Get a good one. She did the Sarah Palin one. That's what she blew up. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So I'm going to the Avian awards with, man. Yeah. Porn legend. She's kind of been retired for a few years, but she's, she has some cool tits. And does she, um, and you guys went on a date. You guys have gone on some dates, right? I wrote a song where I had a lyric about her.

And yeah. Yeah. And she loved it. And then I ended up getting her into this. I had to shoot a commercial for G feel like, oh, we need a mouth. I was like, well, you're in New York. Let me hit up Lisa. She was super about it.

And, you know, we had a bonded pretty well on set. And, um, yeah, rest of history. I clapped her cheeks. Damn boy. That's wild. I had two minutes. It was a dream of mine because I think one of my first three ever jerkoffs in my life was to her.

Oh, wow. I want to say, yeah. First ever three, three nuts. And I, uh, I know I have, you know. And do you remember the first time you ever ejaculated? Was it surprising to you? Yeah. It was mind blowing.

Oh, shit. I had like a family computer room where like it was like this room off to the side right next to my parents room. So I had to like, you know, I think the first porn I ever watched, it was like the girl from Buffy, the vampire slayer. And she was just like stripping in the rain on, even though there was even breasts involved. So it wasn't actual pornography. It was just like video of someone.

But it was like getting close to it. You know, I think, I think I googled like cool boobs. I think that was my first or hot boobs. That was my first ever porn search. And then I found it. I was like, because I heard people at lunch talking about jerking off. And I was like. And you did.

And now did you hear what it was? I had no idea. I had no idea. This is like, uh, man, sixth grade. The good thing about when you hear that jerking off, you only can kind of figure out, even if you're like, you know, even if you can't even read or anything, you can kind of figure out what you have to do to kind of achieve it. It's like, you know, you can only test everything so much before you fuck.

Yeah. So I tested that shit out, man. I was, I remember my father. I think, I think everyone's first and I might be their best, best nut. Oh, it's just insane. Well, I just feel like the, I remember the ejaculate or the E Jack or whatever they call it, you know, um, yeah, it's so, at that point, it's so clear. Yeah.

I remember being like, it had just, I mean, like it had just come out of like, uh, it was just pure, man. It was like plasma. It's like a pure child's nut. I'm saying that. Yeah, man. That was a little sad again. I know what you're saying because I was a child and you were a child so we can say it,

but I think I don't want to think about it. But yeah, we were, we're talking about ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. It was our own pure child's nut. So yeah, dude, if I'm thinking about my own self ejaculating as a kid, that's not like pedia file stuff. Is it?

No, it's your own nut, man. I'll never forget my first, like five nuts. How old were you when you first busted one? Yeah, thanks, man. How old were you? Um, I was, uh, oh, I think I was, remember I was like 13. And I didn't really know. I remember like, uh, finding some videos, right?

My brother had some pornography up there hidden in his closet and some, uh, Alize whiskey pull up some Alize ALI Z. Alize, bro. I still, I'll still sip some Alize. Oh dude. Yeah. So you got into the whiskey. It's not like a weird little like, it's a mix.

It's like a little bed. Oh, there it is. Right there. There you go. Right there. Get that orange one, baby. Or the, oh yeah, that one. That's what I remember.

Yeah. Oh God, dude. Oh hell is that? That shit's popping. Especially at like, Oh, I can belch and just taste my childhood. Even just looking at it. And so we had a, he had a jug of that up there and I found some videos on his shelf.

And so I hit two swigs of that. And I fell off the shelf, man. I got drunk. It was like I climbed up some shelves in his closet and fell off that bitch. And then jerked off. And then I kind of came to, I think I even blacked out and. Damn, that's a crazy first night. There was a lot going on.

And then I got these videos and I put it in the video player. And I just remember like laying in his, in my brother's bed cause his bed was by the TV. And he was out of town. And like, Your brother's bed was your first, first night. I didn't think about that. Damn, bro. All right.

You know, things happen. God, bro, but he wasn't there. Yeah. No, I respect it. So it's like cleaned up a little bit. Oh yeah, dude. I think yeah. I mean, I think it just evaporated back into my skin.

It was like, you know, that shit was pure. That was damn plastic reform a thumb. You know what I'm saying? Really? If you were missing something, you could fill in a divot on your body. That's really good. But I do remember like having my legs out. And I remember just kind of rubbing my, I was so like erect,

like just volatile from watching the pornography that I remember even just rubbing my legs together like this. And that alone was just too much. Yeah, and you're going. Oh, it was just too much charisma going on. Too much heat. Oh, I even just my own legs because I'd never like, if you took 30 seconds before if I'd rub my legs,

there'd have been nothing. But now that I'm all keened in on this pornography and titty on the video, it just had taken a new level. And I just, I had no prior knowledge of what was about to go down. So I'm in that bitch. Like just, you know, getting to it. However, I could.

I think I might have had like a silky napkin or something. Oh God. Yeah, of course you would. What are you? You're going to, I mean, I was probably going to have a cape on. It was on brand. No, no, no, no. I was like third.

I was not balling when I was fucking 14, man. I, yeah, I don't know some napkin. And I just remember like, it was like, damn, this is cool, man. I'm really getting into this. And then I busted and I was like, you know, it's like, it's like, it's like blasting off on DMT. It really is. Damn.

I was like, that's what happens. And then my date looked fucked up for like two days. Oh wow. Really? Because it just had been just all swollen. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, it is.

It's almost like popping a pimple for the first time. Yeah. God, I remember, I remember I saw a man cream out on a video and I was like, there's no way it must be a special effect or something. Yeah. And I remember, you know, doing myself like that, just Jeannie and my little lamp dude and God damn brother.

I mean, just somebody, somebody whist for damn semen. I would, I would pay money to have my first jerk off again, man. Swear to God. Goodness gracious. And pay money for what? And like, just to have it, just to have never noted in my life. Oh, to scratch all the nuts I ever took and just have my first

again right now. Dude, I think you have to, there's, that's like born again, Christian, or not. I don't know if they do it there, but some baptized and have a good, another first jerk off, but you can't really do all the reverse. Yeah. I think it's over, man.

The track has been worn. I've damaged the goods, man. God, but there is something about it, man. If you go all the way back, it almost feels like you'd never die if you had never jerked off. Wow. It was deep. I think I agree with that.

You don't have to agree with that statement, man. Shit. I don't have the power inside of you. God. It's not your shoes, bro. You're rocking all green with the, I'll try to mash my shit out. Yeah. You did a better job.

I, um, I had to do that, uh, BFF's pod this morning. So, yeah, they brought you out. What did we tell? Oh, I told them they said who's coming on. I said, gravy's coming on. And where were they? They were talking about something about a woman that you had dated, but I didn't know who it was.

I guess it was someone's mom. Yeah. Someone's mom. So, uh, Of course they did. Yeah. They brought that up, but it was pretty interesting. I think, um, it was just early.

I had to be over there at like nine a.m. And I was like, I don't even want to be up at this moment. I just, I had stayed up kind of late. So. Who did it? Yeah. But, hey, but did what I was supposed to do. And that was a good time.

Um, yeah, I'm trying to think, I feel like I didn't help you out on that collab very much. Sounds like a piss. Yeah. We do that? Yeah. Go piss. Yeah.

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What does it feel like for you as you've gotten to know yourself better? Honestly, I listen to a lot of really old music. Most most of it. I mean, I listen to hip hop, you know, I want to get hyped up. But like most like when I'm casually listening to look on an airplane or whatever it is, it's usually like some, you know, some 40s to 70s era. A lot of times I'll just find a sample in there that I really like in the vibe of it. I'll send it to like, I got a couple of producers that are really good with flipping those.

And then in the end, we'll, we'll replay it with our own instruments that like there's less legal shit to go through. Also, I mean, half the sessions I do, I'll just go in with the producer or kind of chop it up a little bit and think of something like the song. Okay. I dropped not long ago. I walked in. I was like, hey, bro, let's make us like a Beethoven joint.

Let's make a Beethoven song. And he was like, all right, bet. And he just chatted the willy legendary producer just whooped out his fucking piano, recorded it and played like this Beethoven ass gas track. And I spat on it. It depends. But usually like it's either in person with a producer starting from scratch. And I'm like a big part of the production process or I'm sending a sample and we're

kind of, you know, going step by step. And as far as the one that's like about 30 seconds in, it kind of changes to a total, is that the one that flips to like a total different? I think using the intro, probably the intro, isn't it marvelous is the intro to my, my album, which is like this like smooth 80s little funky John. And then it changes into like this hard trap beat and it keeps going back and forth. So where is the second song where it's like this organ playing that doily played and man, that one came out hot.

That's something that's interesting about you and I'm listening. It's like, I can't, I don't, it's like I'm in different time periods kind of, you know, it's almost like I'm just, yeah, I feel like I'm just kind of traveling through joyful different moments in, in, in time and in music. It's kind of cool. I like to really mix it up and like have these beat be different. But I don't like having multiple songs on a project that are the same where a lot of artists, it's like they have a style and all the beats are going to sound in a certain,

you know, range where all the beats are going to be similar, like a play of our Cardi or like a little Uzi, like their beats are all like in the same sort of style. But I like to like really mix it up and like, I think, I think a lot of artists, it's better for them to make a specific style that they rock with. But for me, it's like my voice, my, my lyrics, my, you know, sort of just, just style and, you know, regalia, all that. Yeah. Simon Rex, shout out.

Yeah. Shout out to Simon Rex. All that kind of speaks for itself. And then beats, I just want to try new things every time. Um, what about BG, dude? He might be somebody that'd be interesting. He's kind of been gone. BG knockout.

No, like, uh, the BG, do you remember him? Uh, he was part of like, um, I mean, the BGs themselves are who I kind of based my style off of. Oh, dang. So they had a rapper out in the world. It's called BG. And I know BG knockout who's from Compton, but I don't know about BG. Yeah.

They had, can you bring him up, Zach? Um, New Orleans, y'all did have some. Blink, blink. He had that every time he'd come around my city. Blink, blink. Thank you. Rain word about 50. I'm about it, man.

Yeah. He was with little Wayne in the beginning. That, uh, bro, that early shit is so. Him, Juvenile. Juvenile used to live in a neighborhood over from me when I was growing up. And so we heard this crazy story one night that he chased some women down the street with an ice pick and then we all went out and bought his album. Fire, man.

That's prime marketing right there. Oh, dude, we were like, uh, we were buying ice picks and shit. People give each other ice picks like as a stock and stuffers. Bro, New Orleans, y'all got, so what? Lil Wayne, Juvenile got that old true bird man. DJ Khaled. I thought it was from New Orleans. People don't know that shit.

I thought it was from Miami. Wow. People pull up DJ Khaled. Yeah. Suicide boys. Have you ever met suicide boys? Yeah. And I've asked scrim to come on the pod.

That would be a good, what if you guys did something? That could be interesting. We've, they brought me on tour. I've been on tour. I've been on tour with them and we've like, I'm pretty close with them. Like we're tight, but they're very, they're very strict about their, uh, there you go in New Orleans. Yeah.

They don't like to, yeah. I mean the scrim doesn't party, you know, and so. They don't like to party and they really don't want to collab with people, but like we've done enough shows together and stuff where I feel like it could happen pretty soon. Yeah. They're specific about their world, you know? Yeah. They're really specific about their world.

Scrim's like that. He's, uh, you know, he's, he's do, he does exactly what he's doing. They're kind of like genius, man. I really respect them and, and like I'm inspired by suicide boys. They're so sick. Yeah. I love them. I saw scrim and I keep in touch a decent amount and, um, and who do I see on their

show was with them Cheta. They had, uh. I was on, I was on that tour. You talking about a tour? Yeah. I was on the one. It was Cheta, Shakewell, me, Ramirez, uh, Germ, uh, Turnstile. This was like last year.

They just, they just, they just did another one with ski mats. But this, this time I was like the, the ski mat. I was like the, the direct support and it was sick. Wow. It's only a few shows. And they, they wanted to have Chief Keef too, but he didn't show up. Oh, damn. That's sad.

Chief Keef is a great dude. Was there, is he? Don't get me wrong. I've kicked it with him a lot. Always dude. Like he doesn't talk a lot, but anytime he says anything, it's really cool. Wow. And, and he's just a very giving person and any time I've asked him to get on a song,

he just slays it. He's fire. Love, Chief Keef. Sway Lee is sick. That would be fire. I haven't met him, but I have a lot of mutual friends. That's a good idea. Nicest dude, man.

I got to meet him at the Super Bowl and his uncle is a comedian. This guy's Sully McCullough. So. What's up, man? I'd always like, I knew that they were out of Mississippi. So I'd always be talking to him about it and stuff like that. And like, I knew that, that he was related and then I was at the Super Bowl and he was there and I was just so, and he was literally the, probably the nicest dude in the room.

Sway Lee. Just so cool. I mean, he's so, everything about him is just, it seems really cool, you know, but. He is cool. But he was real, real friendly. Yeah. I love meeting people that are like really, really up and are so friendly, you know. Yeah.

It's hard to find some time. Yeah. I think it's like, I think that's about your energy. It's like people want to work with you because they want to be around you too. You know, I think that's probably a big aspect for people. I actually ended up the last two years getting booked as the most, I was the most booked college artist the last two years. Really?

Yeah. So you've been playing colleges. I was the most booked artist at colleges the last two years and that's purely because we're professional. We pull up. We're really nice to everybody. And so I did like, I think like 40 shows at colleges last year and about like 35 this year.

Are you going through Nackin and stuff like that? Do you go to the, like through the comfort? Like is it specifically for the college or is it college town? It's, it's college. It's like their actual like spring festival or like their like fall festival. That's sick dude. Yeah. That's a tough market to do on a lot of times.

And it just worked out man. There's a lot of my fans of these college girls and then I meet the promoters who, who a lot of them will book for tons of different colleges and like, if we get along well, it's like that, that's really important in music. And I think every industry is like, if you're just a good person and like not a dick and like, like do what they ask. Like me, it's me and walk a flock or like the two like top. That's cause walk a flock is a great down to earth guy.

Walk a flock and I did a few shows together and he brought me aside and we meditated together. He's vegan. Oh damn dude. He is like not what you'd expect. And it's awesome. He's a great down to earth fella about my height way stronger. When you see people that are your height, do you think that you are, is there a better

chance you're going to be friends? It's a really good question. I feel like there is like a little bit of a bonding with tall people, you know, some, some of them will, you know, it certainly come in with like the opposite feeling like, oh, like, oh, he's the other tall guy, you know, like height beef kind of shit. I think, I can't remember. I'm at G easy and I think it might have been that way. I don't know.

Anyways, most, most tall people. Yeah. We have a little bit of a bond, you know, we tap up and be like, Hey man, pleasure. You know, stay long, stay long, bro. You long drink of water. Yeah. He has a lot of chicks. That's what I always hear.

Yeah. Yeah. He went to school in Loyola in New Orleans actually, which is kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I think the BG would be pretty sick man. He's like a rapper that was really fire and then he's had a tough time. Mystical.

I really loved. Mystical. That's the like. Yeah. Talks crazy. He's fire. He's fire. But he keeps going to jail.

He keeps doing pedophilia, pedophilia. Okay. Well, I probably won't collab with him then. Yeah. They keep popping him. Yeah. They keep popping him. On to the next.

On to the next. Man, Morgan Walton and Hardy, we got that. We got that locked in. And have Ernest right it, man. Ernest is a great writer that works with them. So help have him help. Right. All right.

Cool. Yeah. Ernest. He saw flower shops. You ever heard it? That's a song. It's a beautiful day. Wait.

Is it Morgan Walton? All night. I actually have heard it. I have a roommate who will wake up every morning. He sleeps on our couch. Yeah. He's like our couch dweller. Wakes up every morning.

But it's Morgan Walton. Yeah. That's how I wake up most days. That could be me easily. Zach Bryan, have you heard of him? Yes, I have heard of Zach Bryan. Dude, I went to his show. It's so cool.

I rolled up Cheeto Vera is there from the UFC. Right. So I love UFC. And so it was the craziest. Like he's Ecuadorian. Like, I'm like, I think he's Ecuadorian, isn't he? I know Zach Bryan. Zach Bryan.

Yeah. I have a name. You know, he was going to come to my shows every night. It was Sugar Sean. Oh, he was? Sugar Sean O'Malley. You met him? I could see him being in a video years easily.

He was so hype, man. I wish he could have made it. He was in Phoenix. It was the night before LA. And man, we just like, I don't know how we even met. You guys remind me of each other, actually. The way that you kind of keep in touch. Yeah.

He'll just kind of send a picture sometimes. Just something crazy, you know, what's up. He has energy gets read wrong. I think sometimes about people because he just has such this, you know, he's kind of gotten into podcasting. He's so much also like an artist outside of his fighting. Right. So I think a lot of fighters are initially it seemed like we're

like, what the fuck is this dude doing? He's not a real fighter, you know, because he's able to manage two different real businesses in a lot of ways. He's sick. But man, he's, yeah, he's so good. His energy is always fun, man. His whole life. And he like, this way he's able to just kind of record his life.

And he doesn't stress about it too much kind of. Yeah. I often, I admire him. I admire his ability to not like kind of like get too overwhelmed or anything. I would get too spun up, you know. How do you feel about Jake Paul? We talked about this on that BFS podcast.

I don't, I mean, I met Jake just through his brother. And I, you know, and I was, I was talking more with Logan and anytime I've ever been in the same space as those guys. But I think he's, he's serious about boxing. Dude, I used to think the dude was so lame. And he, I mean, way back, like, like I met him and he was pretty actually cool dude. And now like, I think he's undefeated against all these

like professional fighters. Like, like, yeah, his marketing is douchey and he's got his own thing going, but like that's pretty badass, man. Like I got, I got to show love to him. Logan's a really good dude too. I like Logan a lot. Oh, Logan seems really low. Logan is cool.

I've interacted with him a lot more. Jake, it's like, you know, I don't know if I'd be a friend, but I think you are a badass with my friend. Jake seems tougher to get to know kind of. He seems like his own, he's like, you know, he seems like he kind of stays in his own world a bit. Logan is obviously just super busy dude. But yeah, he's always fun to, you know, always enjoy being

around those guys and they crush it. Yeah, I'm just impressed. I think that both of them were considered like lame. Like, like I just did not fuck with them at all. Just based on like what I'd heard. Like I hadn't even like looked into it. And then they did the right moves to become kind of sick again. You know, they fought, they literally tried fighting,

which is like impressive. They trained from nothing and killed it. And, you know, like they're doing a lot of dope shit. So I got respect for those guys. Well, you have to admire their commitment, the ability to kind of evolve, right? To make that choice to go from, you know, what people would call a YouTube star or a YouTube fame,

which has got to be so like, I can't even imagine coming up on that being young. With horrible diss tracks, all that is just trash. But then you come in and you find, I think they just found what they're meant to be, man, the fighting space. And then he went to that Japanese mistletoe thing or whatever and they fucking rocked him about that for some reason.

He's like, what do you do as a tourist? I remember him filming a dead person hanging from a tree. That's what you're probably thinking of. He went to the Japanese suicide forest. Yeah, it wasn't mistletoe. It was a dead man. Oh, damn. Well, I mean, that's the damn Grim Reaper's mistletoe, son.

I guess so, man. Hey, I still fuck with y'all fellas. Yeah. I mean, nobody wants to be a part of suicide or anything. I can't, but also in Japan, they don't have a lot of room to do stuff, I think. So I think they have to do things like in certain areas. There's not a lot of room there.

There's interesting cultural, I talked to some psychiatrists about this, interesting different countries have cultural views on suicide and stuff and it's like, I think Japan has the highest rate of suicide because it's just part of their culture and they're embedded, is that a term? Embedded. Embedded.

I've seen it, dude. I'll tell you that. You know the embeds, I know the embed. Embedded in their brain. I've seen it, they got some square tits on it. Yeah, man. Pull up the Japanese suicide. I would like to know a little bit more about it just so we can.

Yeah. So I have some clarity. Suicide force, I've heard a lot about it. Anyways, Japan and like Russia, and there's one other country where they have like just culturally, like they have like the suicide like statistics are crazy different than anywhere else. Wow.

I think Russia in particular, it's like a crazy amount. Okigara. Yeah, it's this one here. It's just a heavily wooded forest. Okigara, also known as the Sea of Trees, is a forest on the northwestern flank of Mount Fugue. Look at that one. Yeah.

How many people do it? How many people commit suicide? The people also ask it. 30 every year. About 30 people committing suicide there every year. So for one place, imagine if there was one park, you know? That's like more than one. That's like three a month, man.

That's crazy. Wow. Yeah, imagine being like the park ranger, you know? You're the park ranger and you just got to pull up and you're like, oh, there's another. Yeah, because that's one every other week. Yeah. And I wonder if there's like a busy season.

Guaranteed, bro. Like when it's cold out and shit. Hmm. It's a beautiful place too. Wait, maybe that's why too. I think that is, you know, it looks like it's such a beautiful place. Yeah. Dude, I saw this crazy TikTok the other night.

A guy, a guy is trying to hang himself and a guy walks up on him and is recording a video and like talks him out of it. And it's all video. And the dude's like balling, crying and stuff. Like sometimes I'm like, is some of this on TikTok, is it even real?

But this thing looked pretty real. That sounds real. It's like, there are people that fake some whack shit, but I thought that'd be pretty fucking whack to fake that. Yeah. Can you see that? I don't know how you would even look that up. I'm trying to find it.

I'm trying. And I know it's probably going to set off alarms even looking for it. Wow. When did you start to feel like, okay, I'm turning a corner here. So, you know, you end up at the commune, you got the music going.

You've obviously had some juvenile issues starting out, like out of the gate, trouble in Georgia. You can't, you know, but you have this vibe that everybody loves. You're doing music. When does it start to kind of turn for you? And you realize, okay, I really have to lean into this or you just realize

that it's getting bigger. Yeah. It was right at the end of my commune stay in Montana. I was just finishing up that probation. I had about a year left in college and I was working a lot. Dude, I was going crazy. I was so motivated that I was a full-time student, 18 credits at University of Wisconsin.

And... In Madison? In Madison, yeah. Dang, baby. Yeah, I used to go to the company on state before on there. Oh, I remember coming, that's the first place I ever got kicked out of in my life. Yeah, man.

Place is great. Anyways, I was doing that. I was working 20 hours a week at this place that would have probably ended up being my job if it wasn't, you know, for the music stuff that popped up. And I had ran this pizza company with my homie. What's it called? The Pizza Roller.

Basically what we did for about almost two years, we bought like a souped-up golf cart and we put this trailer on the back that was like this metal thing that kept things warm. Partnered with a local pizza chain. And... What was it called? Fizzoli.

Nothing. I was about to say fizzoli. It was a great pizza place there. Fabions or something. I don't know. It wasn't the best pizza in town, but it was like we would hire kids to drive this thing around, play music, put lights on it,

and they would sell pizza above a slice to the drunk kids at little bars. So we do it four nights a week. They go out there from like 9 p.m. till 3 a.m. and just sell pizza at all the drunkens. Yeah. And that was like my first business after that took off. And we made a good bag on that while we were students.

Yeah. And you're giving the people what they want. It's what you've always done. You're giving the people what they want. Thank you. Thank you. And then I... Man, I think I had like a year left of college

and it was either like, oh, I'd take this job in Atlanta. They were going to give me this my own office and like run this whole program or it's like I really like this rap stuff and it's kind of starting to take off. But it was like, right at the end of that probation period in Montana, I had a song that blew up

and they posted on Bleacher Report. And I was like, hey, this is kind of lit. And then I said, you know what? Like, I love y'all, but I'm taking the summer off. I need to like do this. And then I just kept grinding and finally revealed my face. The whole time I hadn't revealed my face.

My first two years, I was like under wraps because I didn't want anyone to know about it because I thought it was lame. I was like, I was afraid of people discovering me and being like, oh, that's Matt Hari. Like, what's he doing? And my boss, obviously, I'm rapping about like piping my dentist and shit.

I didn't want my boss to see that. So I didn't reveal my face at all. I was just posting all these like 50s pinup girls as my artwork and like all my announcements and everything were like- Were you self-conscious? A little bit. I didn't want to be that guy that was like,

at least in my town, there was maybe like seven of them that were like the rappers that were like handing out mix tapes. I don't want to be that guy at all. So I didn't tell any of my good friends besides like my roommates until like a year in. I was like, once I have some like actual following, I'll tell people. And I finally actually met a guy at a party.

It was at a party. I met this dude named Charlie, still my boy. He recognized my voice. Recognized my voice. And he's happened to be a videographer. He recognized my voice when I was talking to music, bro. Are you young, gravy? I never even mentioned where I was from or anything.

I faked like I was from Atlanta. And then I faked like I was from New York. Dude recognized my voice, ended up being a videographer. We made the Mr. Clean video, which is like probably my biggest music video now. That's how I revealed my face. I partly blew up just because everyone thought I was black. And then they were like, because of my voice.

And everyone was like, oh, he's a white dude. Yeah. Like a skinny white dude riding a horse. Black throat, white else. And yeah. And then I, that was that, man. That really, that popped off.

We got a million views in a week. And I was like, all right, something serious is happening. It's big. Get you going, man. When something goes like that. Like, damn. Okay. Now this is what I am.

And I started getting flown out to like labels in New York. And I had to like skip, do a thing. I was walking to my college lectures. And I was a marketing major. So it's 80% girls in those classes. And I walk in there with my letter from like universal music group. I'd be like, yeah, I'm sorry, brother. I'd say it's super loud too.

I'd be like, yo man, my bad. Like I got to, I got to go meet with the label about this record deal real quick, man. I had a nice last little semester there. Any babies want to roll four babies? Yeah. Who wants, who's trying to pull up, man. Wow. No.

Yeah. So that was that. That's how I knew. And I ended up getting a tour booked. And I started one week after I graduated. Couldn't make the graduation ceremony because I had a show in New York. Damn. You think you'll ever go back and walk?

Probably not. I could just like get a, you know, I could, should I? It might be a cool vibe. I mean, it'd be a cool, be pretty fire. Maybe kind of tight. I'm going, I'm going back to my high school for the first time in like 10 years over Christmas to do a little charity event, which would be cool. That's awesome.

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I will do, maybe we'll go walk. Fuck it. Um, what's in the news? Let's, let's, let's just see what's happening in the world. Oh, you, you talk about a stalker. They had another stalker that happened.

What was that? Some celebrity was dealing with it. Yeah. Kim K, we saw this in the news. She got a restraining order against a guy who, I guess, claims that he's talking to her telepathically. Oh, see that's, I think this is one of the byproducts you get of like this metaverse thing and like a lot of these, uh, avatars is that people start to believe then that they are in instances with you.

Uh, this man, it says, um, Andre Persaud, uh, is prohibited from contacting her. Persaud showed up at her home at least three times. Oh. Um, yeah, he's say a hundred yards away for the next five years. Well, what, what, what, what does he mean telepathically? Is he getting weed? Is he doing, he probably bought one of the, they probably had a free weed you bought with one of those lip kits or something.

Yeah, I guess he claimed to be, he claimed to be armed and showed up at her house three times. That's pretty, yeah. That's not, that's not the vibe at all, man. Yeah. And also these bitches seem like ghosts now anyway, almost. So it's like, I'm not surprised that if one of them showed up through Ouija. God damn.

What else they got, man? Yeah. You were talking about school. They just announced what the Oxford dictionary 2022 word of the year is. Oh, let's get it. You ready? Mm hmm. The Oxford dictionary word of the year.

What do you think it would be based on this year so far? What would you each guess? Oh, that's a good question. Gas. Mm hmm. That's a good one. Extra, does it? Extra definitions.

No. Let me think. What's a word that hasn't been, it's going to be like a word that's been used very often or something. Yeah. Or is it a word they're adding new? Yeah. What is it?

Yeah. The whole, the vibe is that every year it's like what kind of enters the lexicon that the Oxford dictionary thinks that they need to start. Okay. You know. You know, like social media and what people really say a lot. Oh, TikTok? Yeah, man.

Well, TikToks, I think. Oh, TikTok. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like a. A TikTok type. Yes. Y-A-S-S. That's a good call.

Oh, I would say vibe. Vibes. Vibes, but vibe. Vibes has been around for a little while. That's the thing is you can't use a word that exists. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. What about that?

What about that? Uh, bedussy. People say bedussy. Busy. I don't think they put bussy in there, but bussy does mean boy pussy. Yeah. Or ass pussy. They used to call it ass pussy.

Ass pussy. Yeah, respect. Um. I remember this lady at this gas station would always say, y'all trying to get that ass pussy every time we'd stop there to get some gas and we didn't know what she was talking about. She was a dude. Huh?

She was a dude. She might have been. I don't know. She's offering that ass pussy. Uh, we can't get it, man. What's up? Goblin mode. Goblin mode.

Oh my God. That is fucking funny, man. I don't know exactly what it means, but I think I do know what it means described as unapologetically self-indulgent, lazy, slovenly or greedy behavior. Oh, that's America. I regularly enter goblin mode, man. That is funny. I was expecting worse as a definition goblin mode.

So who, yeah, whose fans are goblin motors? I don't know, I wonder. Uh, Plubarkarty for sure. Yeah. His fans are tweakers. Are they? Oh yeah. Damn.

They're cool, but they're just like, I also eat fans though. Yeah. And what about is little do they still have? Is that a done thing? You think people will be named little something? Like little, because it kind of turned into like. I'm a young. Right.

You know, keep that in mind before you speak. Uh, I'm a young, but I spell it a special way. I mean, little baby is one of the most simple names that I've ever heard. And he is one of the biggest artists on earth. Good point. Uh, yeah, they had little peep. They had, cause then it started ASAP is out now. ASAP is kind of ASAP.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's like part of a click, you know, it's like, it's like me and the other youngs aren't really a click, you know. Oh, so ASAP is part of a click ASAP. Everything is a click. Yeah.

I didn't know that group. Yeah. Oh, wow. I think it's always driving prosper. Pretty dope. I think everyone in ASAP is cool. I didn't realize that. I just thought every, it was just random.

You got young, you got a little, you got a couple of bigs out there, big boy, big Sean. I wonder what would be a good name. Can we see what the other words are for the past couple of years? Yeah. I'm curious. A good name. You think about a rapper name for you? I'm talking about Theo Vaughn.

Let me go, man, let me go. Hmm. What to let people comment. Hey, if you're watching on YouTube, put below what you think my rapper name would be. And it can be good or bad. You can make fun of me if you want. Thick. Oh, yeah.

Vaughn. Oh, something GED would be good a little. GED? Yeah. No, that doesn't really work. Phalamus. Vectorium GED. Oh, damn.

That sounds pretty good. Phalamus Vectorium GED. That sounds like a, like some Harry Potter, pervy Harry Potter kind of some horny shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I've been horned out. These are the other words of the year.

ASAP horny. ASAP horny. Bad little medium. Little medium is hard. Especially if you're like a say answer. Mm-hmm. If you read in brains for a little medium, that'd be pretty good. Well, like throbbing Vaughn.

Would that work? That sounds more like just for sex. I want to be able to do some music too. My monthly, all right. Facts, facts. I want to have a talent. Throat Vaughn. Ooh.

What? No, I don't want that. You're happy with it, man. Come on, man. Throat Vaughn. Dude is rolling up with that meat mail trying to put it fucking trying to put a letter in the box, dawg. We got young gravy and throat Vaughn, man.

New mixtape. That's right. Make him say. Oh. What do we got? What are they doing? What do we got? Last couple were kind of wack, but so 2021 was Vax.

Like the vaccination or whatever. 2020 was words of an unprecedented year, which again is like, I don't know. Climate emergency. I like how it was all this shit. And then we got goblin mode this year. Dude, somebody, they must have a different sponsor. Obviously this year is sponsored by, uh, by monster energy. Dude, if they went in a goblin mode, toxic youth, quick, I like that, man.

I don't know any of these words. You quick is kind of lit though. It sounds a little sus on it. Post. Wow. They added an emoji. Word of the year in 2015 was an emoji. Damn, life sucks, man.

Oh, there we go. Vape was already one selfie. Squeezed middle. What is that? Squeezed middle. Yeah, that's good. Carbon footprint. Sudoku podcast.

Okay. 2005. 2005. Look at how much better things were, man. We had Sudoku and podcast. Good carbon neutral. Yeah. I think it got bad in 2009 when they called us symbols.

It was symbols and unfriend. And now we're looking at vape selfie. I was getting bad. Yeah. What else we got? Is that anything else in the news? With the Hindi word of the year. Oh, yeah.

It was right there. It was right there. Go back. I couldn't, I couldn't really read what it was, man. Maybe I don't want to pronounce it. You got it. You got it, man. Sam Vidhan.

Or the Constitution. I'm going to go with Atmanabhata or suffer lines. All right. Yeah. I don't have a lot of Hindi information. What I was expecting, honestly. Unfortunately.

What is your age range? I know you do a lot of the mill thing. What is the age range on that? And what is the age range on that, on that mill thing? So I'm not. Are you an age demon or is it just matter? Is it just about the... I think it's going to be like, I mean,

I think most people probably can assume, but like, you know, some people just don't really get it. Like, I'm not loyal to only older women. No. That's not, yeah. People do make that assumption. There's a video that dropped of me walking in Buffalo, New York with this girl

who was just clearly not a milf, whole lands, and it got like six million views and all the cons were just, oh my God, bro, that's not a milf. What is going on? I was like, dude, like, I mean, yeah, milfs are dope, but I'm not, I'm not.

It's like a solar eclipse or something. I'm not discriminating, man. The age range, I mean, they had a girl that was four years younger than me for a little bit. She's sweetheart. And she had a child? Very mature.

She did not have a child. The oldest woman I've been with was 54. Okay. And that was 28 years older than me. Right? Yeah, I think that's very fair, man. My mom and dad were 38 years apart. Really?

Yeah. Damn, mine are 21 years apart. Wow, that's far. Well, we're, and that's, I thought that was a lot. One of your parents passed away? Yeah, my dad died when I was 16. Oh, man.

So did mine. When you were 16? Yeah. Really? Yeah, he had cancer. Fuck, man, my dad fell in the ice. Uh-oh. He hit his head while walking my dog.

My dad was way older though. My dad was born in 1933 in Switzerland. Was he really? Yeah. Dude, my dad was born in 1910, or 1912 in Nicaragua. Wow. Damn, we got a similar situation.

My grandparents, Rudolph and Verino, are from like 1880 or something. Yeah, my dad was born in 1933. I'm born in like 56. And yeah, 23 year difference. And here I am, man. I like to have an older parents. Yeah, well, I think it probably adds

some sort of a worldliness to you as well, like things you don't even recognize that. And you have to also, I think I realized I was thinking about this the other day, you're watching an older person. So then how you interact with the world and how you interact with things, is probably going to be a little bit different

than if you have like a capable and constantly on the go father. Whereas if you have someone that's probably just, even just spending more time at peace or relaxing or just sitting there, my dad would just sleep all the time and his eyes would start leaking. And I didn't know what was going on.

He was just home. People get older. Yeah, absolutely. Wait, so how old was he when he passed? He was 86. 86. Wow. Well, he was 16.

But that's so wild, man. Gosh, what a dark surprise. Your dad just went for a walk? To his head. We were, it was the middle of the winter. He slipped on the ice, hit his head, and like didn't realize it until like five hours later being like internal brain bleeding

and sort of having a bad reaction. And it's like that because I was at my homie's house and we were like smoking and just chilling. And I got a call from my mom, like, yo, dad's in the hospital. You were stoned? You should come. I was stoned and freaked me out extra.

I mean, about the time I got there, obviously I sobered up, but I was, yeah, it was just really bad timing. But I think overall it kind of helped me in life, man. Like, at least looking back, I'm proud of how I took it. You know, it motivated me. My mom kind of shut down for a while and couldn't do a lot because she was just like,

you hit her so hard. So I kind of became the man of the house when I was 16 and I had to get myself into college and do all this stuff. And I think it motivated me a lot, man. Like, I miss my dad like shit, but I think that that was, you know, a turning point for me. Did you get to say anything to him

when you got to the hospital or he was unconscious? No. It was bad timing. I think right when I got there, he had just reached the point of like not being able to talk anymore. So it's like kind of like coffee and shit, but yeah. And obviously I said to him,

you know, maybe you hopefully heard it. But yeah, man, that was I was 16. It was January. He's born in Switzerland. I think I said that and Swiss citizen and everything, man. I still see his family sometime. He had dope. So he had five siblings, grew up in a family of six

and every single one of them has died in an accident, except for the two that are alive who were like 95 and 96. My family's just on some shit. Yeah. And you just hurt yourself. Yeah. I do. I break my shit all the time, man.

It's that extra two inches that you aren't going to count for. Extra two inches, man. I'm going to survive, man. I'm not going to die. I think if I make it to 50, I'm going to be happy. Yeah. I'm sorry about that, man. It's interesting that when that kind of stuff happens

and then how it processes it into the rest of your life. Did your mother remarry? My mom's had a few boyfriends since. And I'm always talking with her about it. We're really close. I became like best friends. Was she at your show the other night? Not the other night.

She's been to a few of us, too. She's coming tomorrow. Actually, we're going to Austin, Texas tomorrow. My mom and I are super tight, man. Yeah. I threw it as much as I can. She's had a few boyfriends since then, but like, you know, I'm protective.

Yeah. They're whack. One of them was cool, but one of them was whack. So, you know, I think she's, you know, she's still in love with him. So, so she's trying things out. But yeah, I wonder if I find, I wonder if love, love kind of feels like it goes on after we die. Doesn't it?

It feels like it has like a power that's bigger than us. Do you ever think about something like that? I remember at one point, the one time that I really felt like I was in love with somebody. It was this girl, I don't know, I said about three years ago. And I was like, like, I was more afraid of her dying than anything else. I was like, she could break up with me. It's all good.

But if you died, like, you know, I was like, dude, I'm going to be fucked up forever. Wow. You know, because I was like, man, like, I love this bitch. And I don't want, you know, to like forever the rest of my life think that, like, that compare everything in my life to her, you know, now that we broke up and like everything's over and like, I see what she's on now. It's like, I feel better.

This is like, oh, like she's happy. I'm happy. We're different. It makes sense that we're separated rather than like, oh, this could have been perfect. And then she died, you know. Yeah, love. Yeah.

Well, yeah. I mean, love almost feels dangerous and it's almost like, damn, do I even want to go to this thing that's fucking scary, bro? But, you know, when it incites feelings like that and like, you know, it's funny because being in love, people think like, oh, I want to be in love, that it just is like only this positive thing, but it's kind of got this trap door that's, you know, you got to be careful with your footing in there. Yeah.

I think I was only been like maybe like one or two other times. One of them was pretty recently, but I kind of felt that same way. And, man, it's hard because it's like, yo, especially with like, at least how I live and I assume kind of how you live, it's like when you're traveling all the time. It's really hard to like, you know, you have on the right person that's down to like, you know, accept that you're going to be gone all the time and be all over. Yeah. Be around people.

And you got to manage it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. That's a hard look, man. It's hard when there's opportunities to meet women and did you get a lot of girls growing

up? I mean, you're probably you seem like a tall kind of handsome or guy you guys usually do pretty well. I'm tall. I actually know it. I think part of the reason I sort of have game now is because when I was around maybe 15, 16, I was part of like this in my hometown, there was the skaters and there was the Hicks right?

Oh, yeah. And the Somalians. Those were like three. The small hands. Somalians. Oh, Somalians. A lot of them in Minnesota. I like small hands.

Small hands. Small hands. Those are my boys. So it was like, those were like the three groups of like the dudes within my hometown. There was four high schools, but like still it was kind of like split skaters, founders, Hicks that like drove trucks, forced it to a boost. No, the Somalians, which were like, well, we, I mean, not just small hands, you know, it's the Vietnamese with everybody, but everyone kind of had their little like crews.

Then there was just all the girls were kind of like free game, like, like all over. You know what I'm saying? Or was I haven't gone with this? You were saying when I was growing up, there was three types of people and I was like, oh, do you know anything about? Sit. No, not sit. Yeah.

It was like, did you have game in high school? Oh, did I have game? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. The whole thing is all my friends and my little skate skater crew were handsome motherfuckers and they're really good at skateboarding.

And I wasn't that good at skateboarding and I was kind of ugly, skinny, had acne and shit. So I had to develop game in order to wheel on the same women that all my peers were wheeling on. You know what I'm saying? So I had to develop game early. And I used to just like go out solo and like go to like, dude, I was like 15 or 16. I would just go out to like, you know, like a bar and like find my way in or like go wherever and just like,

Meet women. Sober and just like meet and like see, like try to train myself, you know? And then I finally got that game and like, I had some really hot girlfriends in high school that made me look ugly as shit because I was dusty. And I never really like came up and like, I kind of grew into my body when I was in college and like, you know, got the facial hair and like became like a normal looking dude. I wasn't like, I wasn't like a fucking little trash can man, but I was definitely a little

dusty. I can see you kind of look like almost like George Washington's fine son. I'll take that man. Let's go. Okay. Thank you, sir. So yeah, man, I developed game early on and I think that that sort of confidence and charisma carried into my music and helped a lot with like just even like any risks I

was taking. Yeah, you got to be kind of, yeah, you have to be really confident up there to do that. It's interesting watching somebody. It's funny watching somebody else do their art. You can't even believe that you do anything that's even remotely similar to it. Yeah. It's a bit different. Yeah.

Like I was up there with Trevor the other night watching. We're like, dude, we showed up fricking dumb music, dude. We're so pissed at ourselves because it just, there's such a different energy like with comedy. It's just like, hey, you're almost just like, hey, don't you wish I could do music? You know, it's almost like you just wish you could, you know. But it's funny watching somebody else perform. Sometimes it doesn't even feel like you do anything similar to that.

Yeah. I remember the, I think I've been on your shows, but I've been a few of Trovers and I mean, I get so impressed with last one I was at. Chris Delia came out. Oh yeah, he's fine. Anthony Jessenna came out and Mark Hayes and man, just the, what's the word? Just the improv levels were insane, man. I was like, I'm very impressed.

I feel like anyone who does comedy, am I wrong in thinking that anyone who does comedy would be really good at acting? I don't know. I feel like you could slay that shit. Yeah, I think acting is just a lot more like, even I did a part in a movie recently with Bobby Lee. It was a friend of mine's movie. This guy Lodge.

It's about a sober living and we did some parts in it and even watching back, watching somebody back, I'm like, oh, acting, you don't move at all. Like even like, I didn't think I was moving much like when we were recording, but I was like, oh, damn, there's some parts where I'm even moving too much. Like acting is like, you're not doing anything, bro. I mean, you're getting the message across, but that's all you're doing, you know? I probably tried some acting with Comedy Central recently. That shit was actually fun.

Oh wait, I saw it. What was it on? I did like four little sketches with them. There was one I saw that was, I think it was for, it was with Pizza Hut, maybe or something? Pizza Hut? I did some shit with Pizza Hut too. That shit was good. I did with Comedy Central, I did one, it was like a polyamorous rom-com and then there

was one about me being a human taxidermist, one about me meeting God and we're about to drop this one called, yeah, that shit's funny. Oh, I nutted on DMT that one? Yeah, that's another good one though. I just got the final cut of this one called Clot Ones. I think I can review it like the plot. It's like Hot Ones, but they hooked me up to a menstrual cramp simulator and like, they're on blood.

It was lit. Damn, they're going dark over there. Yeah, no, the whole thing was funny, man, Comedy Central's dope. I had fun doing a little bit of that thing, man. Yeah. I wanted more of that. But yeah, that's, I mean, I'm not, it's like, you're kind of like this, you're just kind of this energy, this force and I think people want to be around it.

Anything else in the news, Zach? I'm trying to think of. We hit a lot of news. I got kind of a crazy video of these guys slapping each other at an IHOP. Can I go up here again? Yeah, sure. Yeah. So what, oh, take me, take me through.

So like you do like sampling a lot of your music, you find things you like from the past. What's that? What is that like? What are, like, can you just do that? Take me through some of that. That's complicated. Legally, you got to like clear everything and since my lyrics are very not friendly, especially for like these older songs where it's the estate or it's someone older who's

listening to it. A lot of times they don't like hip hop, so trying to just sort of clear something doesn't work often. A lot of times we'll just bring ideas into the studio and then kind of just recreate or make something similar and that works easier. It's like, it's annoying, so I finally found producers that can just make their own shit off the top, which is dope, but yeah, it's, it's annoying. What is it?

So say if you do use a song, do you have to, if you do want to use something, do you have to reach out to them first? How does that kind of work? I didn't at first when I was starting on SoundCloud and all that. A lot of my songs, I blew up really big, I didn't, because I didn't even know how. I didn't have any legal folks to help me with it and I just said, you know what, they can only sue me for as much as I made off the song, so it's worth it because I'll still get whatever attention I need off of it or whatever.

The only actual time that I've had to like take a song fully down and like give all the money away was George Michael's estate with Sampled Kills Whisper and I'm signing the check this week for the $190K, but besides that, it's like, cool. So they asked for $190K or was it negotiated, how does, do you have like announced? That was just all the, like they had to like get reports, not so much money I've made on the song. That's a good, that's kind of a deep cut too, so I was impressed that they like figured all that out, but I got to pay them that.

Everybody else, like we'll just, you know, they'll take a little check and they'll take like some publishing on the song, it's like a percentage, but you think it's pretty cool about it. And nowadays, now that I'm signed and everything, I can't, like I have to go through the full process. Yeah. Is it almost kind of a bummer? It's like, once you get the popular, once you kind of get to some levels of achievement,

you then have to do, it messes up my style, a lot of like sort of the staples of my style I can't do anymore than I have to like try to recreate in other ways, which I found ways to do, which is like, you know, little like old school samples and stuff, I can make my own, I can make my own sample, like full on samples from scratch, like a full song. But like, it's not, you know, it's not quite the same, but I forget I always make it work. So was that, like say, there's somebody who's wanting to sample stuff, they like sampling, they're trying to figure it out for themselves, but they're afraid to put their music out there.

They're like a new artist, right? Do it. Would you just tell them to do it? Yeah. Do it. Yeah. I don't want to deal with any of it until like, I mean, I think once my songs were getting more than like 30 million streams, like that was when people started noticing.

It's like before that, they're not going to, if it's some old, at least they're not going to notice. And if you do it right, like, I mean, like the song, they're most likely getting to clear it out of like 10 different situations I had, only one of them ended up really bad. So I'd say do it. I'd say do it. If you want to sample something, do it. It's worth the, worth the try.

And you got arrested, you said a couple of times, what was one of the, take me through one of those issues? Yeah. So, you know, I've told a lot of these stories, but I guess I haven't really delved fully into the, the, the third, which was, I want to say December 2019, maybe it wasn't that long ago. I was, it was right before Christmas and I was drunk in Atlanta and I wanted to go get some food.

Right. My whole crew with us, we're in Buckhead. My whole crew, that was with me. They didn't want to go get any food. So then I met this random fella, uh, spiky hair, kind of reddish. Uh, he was like, man, like, what's good, grab you. Let's go get some pizza. And I was like, oh yeah.

So we walked like two blocks and then there's DeKalb tire, right? Tire store right there on the block, middle of Buckhead. Oh yeah. He was like, yeah, man, this is my dad's, my dad's shop. It's my dad's place. You want to go inside? I was like, of course. Yeah.

Let's get it. So we go around back and he takes like a sort of like a shovel and like props open the garage door in the back. And I, I guess I just figured it was normal. I was like, this is, this is how you get into your dad's business, man. It's all good. Yeah. And we get in there, we're fucking around like we're in this tire store or like some

of the lights are on. We're just jumping around. We're like rolling tires back. Just some drunk dumb shit. Rolling tires back and forth, climbing on pallets. Like having a good time. This is how fucking erotic it was, it was just like some, some bonding shit with the homie, man.

I don't even remember. I don't remember. I don't know what you're saying yet. I don't remember his fucking name. Anyways, I am just like, look down on my phone because I'm going to call me and I like look back up and I just like look around and I'm like, buddy is gone. He's completely gone. And I couldn't remember what his name was.

So I'm in this tire store and it was like all the shit laying around and I'm like, fuck man. Like what do I do? So I just, I just walk up the back door and there's three cops there. Like guns out, like flashlight on me, like get in the fucking ground. He set you up, you think? I don't know. It didn't set me up.

I think what he, I think his dad didn't know it was, it was some random kid who somehow knew that like he could get in the back of his tire shop. He brought me in there and we were like just fucking around. And then he must have noticed that there was like a cop car or something and he ran. And then I just walked out like innocently and there's three cops waiting and I got fucking arrested for breaking and entering into a tire store and you know what I ended up doing bruh is that my Midwestern self, man, after all that, I went to jail for the night. It was dude, I was in this cell with all these dudes and they were just, oh man, it was,

I had a freestyle to like to gain some, you know, toilet access. I'm sure. Yeah. I was in a huge cell. I had to gain some credit by free styling. Wow. Was that scary when you first went in? A little bit.

But I was like, I mean, I was like, just stand out. I was just kind of geeking out. I was like, man, I can't believe this is what led me here. But it was Fulton County, so it was like, you know, mid Atlanta, only white dude there, for sure. Did anybody recognize you in the jail cell? There was one kid. Yeah.

Yeah. But I was like, I was just like, no, let's not. There was another time where I, my first time going to jail was in Iowa. I beat up this kid who was being racist to my friend and I actually, I got bailed out by fans because I put up a story of me like in the jail cells that forgot to take my phone, not the cell in like the processing area, and I filmed the other kid that I beat up. And it was him bleeding. He was like, oh, fuck you.

But somehow these, these, these fans could tell that I was in Ames, Iowa, and they pulled up and paid my bail and got me out. Dude, that's amazing, bro. So literally like the guard walks in, he's like, hey, is there a little gravy in here? And I was like, yes, yes, there is, yes, there is, man. So that was a good one. The tire one, you know, I had no explanation. And I was like, yeah, man, so, so my homie, his dad owns the place, like it's all good.

Like what's his name? I was like, ah. They hit you with that hard question. I was like, shit, I don't know, man, I was drunk and uh, yeah, so I have multiple charges of criminal trespassing in Georgia now and one, well, in, in Iowa that, that, that one turned into an assault charge. And then basically I got a good lawyer, the other kid that was in the fight did not. Uh, I showed up to court.

He didn't, he now has assault in Iowa after getting his ass beat and I have a, a creating a raucous noise. So I created a raucous noise in Iowa one time. Defeating racism. That's what the raucous noise is. Yeah. Defeated racism, man. It is a raucous noise, man.

Wow. Yeah, that tire shop, man, we've all been in some kind of instance like that. We're just, yeah, wrong place, man. I think it was Christmas, Christmas Eve that my friend bailed me out the next morning. It's Christmas Eve. God, it feels good getting out of jail, doesn't it? Something nice about it. So good, dude, when, when they come in yourself because, because they don't pay you attention

in jail. If you're, you're in there, if you have any questions, anything you even want to like, you know, you even want food, you little turned on the AC on you and get your ass all cold and shit. Anything you want, they'll just not even look at you if you ask for it. Like when that dude comes in and finally says like, yo, Matthew, how are you, it's your time to go. I think I shed a tear just about every time I had last, dude.

That's how I'm gonna start. So what about when you go out, where did you go eat or something? You just go rest. What do you do when you get out? I never gotten out. Get out of jail. You know, you've never gotten out. I got out of jail one time and this dude in there kept yelling, I remember I got in there.

We were smoking weed in, um, some people's house and the cops show up and then they bring two children down from upstairs and I'm like, two's children is it? And they're like, that's a great question. Y'all are, y'all are getting contributing to the delinquencies of minors. How old were you? Oh, I was probably 19. So they brought these two children down and they almost look like bots or like plants, dude.

Like I'm sure they brought the bitches up the back steps, you know, like, yeah. It was just anyway, they're like rubbing their eyes. It looked too fake. Right. When I'm had a little doll in their hand, I'm like, these, you know what I'm saying? And we were just sitting in a living room smoking weed. So we all went in a jail. I got locked up with this one kid, this one dude who kept taking his shirt off and screaming

that he wasn't a homosexual, you know, and I didn't accuse him of being a homeless. You know, I think he thought, I think he, you know, like he thought if you went to jail that you were going to be a homosexual, you know, and it's like, you know, I was like, I'm not being homosexual, so you're good to jail, bro, like, and he kept taking his fucking shirt off. I think he was trying to trap me. I could do it like a gay trap, but, you know, that reminds me of the first, the first time I got locked up.

It was in, um, also in Georgia, it was eight of us, uh, but, but I was a, we were at a house party, wrong place, wrong time, blah, blah, blah. Every time wrong place, that's gotta be your next album. And the end I got, uh, uh, charged a bunch of shit and, uh, this was led to the Montana thing, but this situation when we got there, they, they kept calling me a Yankee and they were like, not fuck with me because everyone else was from Georgia. I'm the Minnesota kid and this is like backwards, like deliverance Georgia. Oh yeah.

And they're calling me a Yankee and shit and they put all eight, all seven of my friends in one cell together and they put me in a separate one with this dude, Danny. Danny was a, uh, a pedophile on an oxygen machine. So it was like, it was like, I'm kind of like, they're kind of shitting on me, but they're kind of not, but, but they clearly hated this fucker. So they're putting, they put the, the thermostat down to like 55 and I'm in there and I was hiding the woods. So I'm in like a t-shirt and some shorts and I'm wet and Danny luckily got two blankets

because he's, you know, got something wrong with him. So he gave me a blanket. He told me a lot of, bro, I was in there for probably 24 hours. I learned a lot of shit from Danny, man. Reading Pennsylvania. He told me everything about that damn city, trying to teach me how to hotwire a car. Uh, No car in front of you.

It's free. It's like imagining it and, uh, about how he didn't actually rip, rip anyone and you know, it was, it was, it was interesting like, you know, 24 hours, but, uh, but yeah, man, they just, when they get you in that situation and you're like in the fucking pen, it's like they have all the power and it's like, you know what, I don't like this kid. He's not from where I'm from. So I'm going to put him in here with a pedophile. And what about nighttime?

Do they have nighttime in there where they, where it's like lights off kind of thing? No, there was no lights off. No. This is like jail, like holding. It's like in between jail and prison. So it's like, they really want to fuck with you and make you feel like shit. So like there's no lights off, temperatures low. I was sleeping on like a little civil war book that Danny got as a gift from somebody.

Yeah. No, I didn't get processed for like 14 hours. So I was there. I was on the floor, no better. And you can have your phone with you? No, I don't know. No, I was Iowa, Georgia, the, the, the jail system was fucked up. Iowa.

They just lacked and they just forgot to take my phone. So I had it. And Georgia, it was like everything was taken on site and they don't like, they don't like me down there. Georgia just does not fuck with me. I'm banned from a few strip clubs and not in Georgia and shit. I could see that though. I used to fight people a lot.

That was my problem. I used to fight people. Really? So I bought some bouncers that clear my lounge. You ever been there? Yeah. I'm banned from there forever. They have like a wanted poster up for me.

That's so great. I have a really good friend who's a professional MMA fighter that I always go out with there. So it's like, I used to get into this like mentality of like, Oh, I don't give a fuck. I'll do whatever I want because if we get into fight, I'm with Joe Bradley. And yeah, man, then I got banned from clear my lounge. God. Yeah. Claremont dude, I bought drugs in there and people, you don't know if they're me.

Everybody's, you know, it's sort of like a, um, it's like a little, it's a wild card and you know, everything. Yes. Yeah. It's everything. It's draw four. It's draw 400, bro. Yeah.

Everything's wild in there, man. It is right. It's wild. It's a great place. If you've never been to clear my lounge, um, there's senior citizen strippers in there and a lot of people have heard about it by now, but it is a great place to go and a lot of closeted men will go in there and like who have families and stuff and they'll meet other men in there.

I noticed. Yeah. There's just breasts that are beyond what you can really picture anything's a tit in that bit. Yeah. You can picture like you picture the biggest breasts you ever seen and they have bigger there. You know, we used to do this fun thing in our class and school, one of us would go behind

and they had a chalkboard and a little bit of space between the chalkboard and the wall and one of us would go back in there and pull, you'd like kind of get your pants down or whatever and pull your nuts like over your wiener kind of and pretend like it was a baby's head. It looked like a baby's head and you were having a baby and then you'd, uh, what, what, what kind of brought this to mind right now? Just something kids, you know, like, uh, I don't know, what were you talking about? I was talking about big tits at clear my lounge.

Yeah, so I was just thinking about crazy shit. Okay. All right. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. But it's like, it would almost look like a baby kind of. I remember the goat.

They used to call it the goat. Oh yeah. Push it back. You push it back and you bend over the goat. Yeah. This one, you kind of pull your nuts. Oh, you kind of like create this. It looks like a baby's head coming out of your body.

It's actually, it's cool. It's pretty dope. It's pretty artistic. It's cool. That's kind of like a Halloween. It's kind of like a Halloween kind of. You know, it definitely sort of, it looks like a meteor just landed in there. Yeah, so we got to wait another couple of seasons before we get that again, man.

Yeah. Just missed Halloween, man. Yeah. You don't get that every month, bro. Gravy, the tour, it's keep going on. How long is this tour going to go on? December 16th, we got, let me think we're doing, I'm flying to Austin, Texas tomorrow. My mom's birthday tomorrow.

She's going up with my half sister. We're going to have a good time. And then we got four shows in her own Texas. Then I come back here actually. I just put my flights today. I have three off days. So I'm coming back here to LA for a little bit and then we do the West Coast, like Seattle, Vancouver, Boise, couple of spots and then a free man, man.

There you go. Yeah. You pick back up February 9th next year. Yeah. I got some random. Australia. I'm doing the, I'm doing the AVNs in January and I got like one show, I think in like Florida and then yeah, Australia, man.

Amen, man. Yeah, Australia, New Zealand, Tasmania and Hawaii. I never thought I'd ever go to Tasmania, but I'm going there with the Vangoboys. Remember? Boom, boom, boom, boom, I want you in my room, let's get there from down until I have a bump. I'm on the same stage. Oh, dang. That's great.

That's great. Oh man. Well, thanks so much, bro, for coming in and spending time. Thanks for inviting me out to your show the other night. Yeah, man. Glad you made it. Glad you liked it, too. Yes.

Yeah, just like it made me want to go to more shows, it made me want to have more fun a little bit. That's what it kind of did for me. It's like, oh, this is fun, man. Everybody here is having a good time. That's the goal. That's the goal, man. I'm glad people like, we're trying to make the show like epic, but fun and like, you know,

everyone comfortable. I could not help but have a good time and also you see that earned out Milf. It's like, you guys. That's crazy. The earned Milf is insane, man. Respect to him and her, man. Gang, maybe. Yeah.

Young gravy. Thanks, man. Thank you, brother. Gang, baby. I'll see you in the future. Pleasure always. I'll see you soon, man. Thanks, y'all.

Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Oh, but when I reach that ground, I'll share this peace of mind. I found I can feel it in my bones. But it's gonna take. It's gonna take. It's gonna take. It's gonna take.

It's gonna take. It's gonna take. It's gonna take. It's gonna take.