This Past Weekend - E464 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

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Today's guest is Robert Kennedy, Jr. Shining out on me I'll spin and tell you those stories Shining me And I'll be found a star I'm going to say it. Thanks man. Yeah, I feel pretty good. I got some vitamin D today.

I went for a run, you know. I think I was feeling like overwhelmed. So sometimes when I feel like even if I feel anything too much, it's like I feel like if I do something in motion, it helps me, you know, and getting some vitamin D helps me too. Yeah, a movement muscle change of thought. Yeah, but I had the same experience yesterday where they had me scheduled like back to back all day And I said I just need to get out and I just canceled one of my appointments and I went out and I saw For an hour and I just it was transformative

Yeah, it's interesting. I think we forget that we're supposed to be plants like that, you know That were part because our humans part plants, too, do you think? No, no, although the microbiome has a lot of plants and I guess it's part of our body and it's a plant, I suppose, but we are definitely or a zoonotic species rather than plant species, dang. Yes, I know that I guess I feel like a plant. I don't know if I sit by a window, I feel good. You know, if somebody comes up and smells me, if I smell good, I feel good.

I guess. So that's kind of like a flower, maybe I don't know. Maybe I'm losing my mind. Good to see you, man. You do? Yeah, you look great. You did. You look amazing.

Oh, I feel pretty good, man. I'm just been staying pretty busy. I'm trying to think of what's been going on. Have you been in Nashville? Yeah, I've been over there a decent amount, you know. I couldn't believe how that is growing there. Yeah. And there's like 20 grains above that city.

The most of all the grains from everywhere in the United States there. Yeah, it's been busy. I mean, even since I just moved there like three years ago, it's like, I'll go down streets now and everything's changing. It's really nice. One of the things I like best there,

I have the best neighbors there. My neighbors are really nice. And it still has a really small town vibe, but you couldn't cheat on your wife there. That's what I tell people. You could not do it. I mean, I think a lot of people have tried, but you could, it's just there's too much. It still has like that, a little bit of that southern gossip vibe, you know. You have like a little house there. Yeah. I got me a little house in a neighborhood. It's pretty

normal. Nothing too fancy. I mean, it's a nice home, but it's nothing like, I don't have like a water slide or anything, you know, or anything like that, or like a... Pun of an axe. Yeah, I don't know that. I don't know the axe throwing, yeah. But it's been good, man. It's been a nice change of pace.

I feel a little bit more connected to this like regular society, because I think in L.A., it's like a, it's just a different universe out here than like regular society. Because I think in LA, it's just a different universe out here than regular cities or towns in America for sure. And there's so many people here. I think people start to feel a little bit, I don't wanna say expendable,

but it's like some people you know, you're not gonna see them ever again. So there's a different amount of value, sometimes to the interaction that you have to put into it. Like in a smaller community, you have to create a level of probably more respect for people and stuff. And like, whereas in a city, you're just gonna, does it make any sense?

Yeah, I remember who was, and there's a writer for the New Yorker, I'm trying to remember his name, but he's kind of a philosopher. And he was talking about the, that there is a formula actually that, you know, people are rude and big cities because the chance of them ever running into you again is more remote whereas if you live in a small town, I've lived in Montgomery, Alabama, which is really a small town, and I've had a

Hainville, Alabama, and then I lived in Deadwood, South Dakota, and a couple of other small towns in my life. Everybody's nice, and when you're driving down the road and you're pick up truck, everybody who passes you on the road waves their hand like that. Yeah. waves their hand like that. He was telling this story that mother Teresa, when she came to New York, she tried to start one of her little con monasteries to take care of the poor in New York. They eventually ended up closing it because they didn't want to put an elevator in the place. And they said, no, we'll just carry this.

I think people up the stairs are ourselves. I love that idea. Yeah, but in New York, the public health agencies wouldn't let them do it. So they said, okay, we're leaving. A Chia one point, Mayor Koch had a, had a heart attack. Mayor Koch? Yeah. Okay.

Ed Koch was a, he was the mayor of New York for a long, long term mayor. And he had a heart attack and he nearly died. And she went to visit him in his hospital bed, and which he thought was a great kindness because she's a Catholic and he's a Jewish mayor. And it just was kind of a spiritual act, but when she was up there, she asked them, can you give me a parking place in front of my building? And as a joke or no, she wanted a parking place,

but it kind of made some other Teresa. Well, of course you would give her a parking place if you got a very, there he is, the mother to reach out. That's hilarious. So, it's great today. But she, you know, it's just the idea that she had an angle. You know, once you go to New York, you always got to have an angle. Yeah. And maybe it is you're just like, and I always feel like L.A. is kind of like an air. It always feels like the whole city feels like a little bit like an airport to me. It's like, I feel like I never leave the airport here.

Like it just, it feels like this thoroughfare of just people going in and out, you know? Sometimes I started to feel like America starts to feel like that sometimes. I think it starts to feel to a lot of people like, it almost feels like a shell company sometimes. Like a shopping mall. Yeah, or like it feels like an LLC for like big bit.

It starts to sometimes feel like an LLC for like big business. Yeah. Does that make any sense? That makes a lot of sense. I mean, I think that's what it's becoming. In one of the things that like I'm talking about a lot now is this, you know, it's

housing prices. I have prices. You say, yeah, you know, I was, I tried the Monsanto case in San Francisco with a big team of attorneys and we tried three cases in a row. So we had about 20,000 cases. And the way that, you know, this kind of multi-state litigation in the case was that they were, it was poisonous, right? Yeah, it was causing non-Hodgkin's Enfomer. Okay. So we had enough science to prove that it could cause on, it did, it could cause non-Hodgkin's Enfomer. Andarma. And then we ended up having 50,000 people

who had gotten on the Hodgkins and pharma. And but the way that you try the case, you try it one at a time, until if you win three or four in a row, then the company says, and Monsanto says, okay, now we know what the value the case. So the first case, we got 289 million. Yeah, I just saw this brought that up.

Wow. The second case, we got, into that. Yeah, I just saw this brought that up. Wow. The second case, we got, and so that was one client and there was one, that was Dwayne Johnson, who, who not the rock, you're not talking about him. Not the rock, this was African American, school superintendent, his job was to spray the weeds on the property

and keep the mo the lawn and do that on a school, public school. And he had a backpack on a sprayer and it leaked all the time and he began getting lesions on his back and he called up, I'm not saying it to him. He called them three times and said, could this be from because it says safe as aspirin nothing could happen to you. And it has pictures.

It had pictures on the label of people spraying their weeds wearing like Vermutors shorts and all that shirt. So it was implying that you don't have to take any protection with this stuff because it's so safe. Wow. Oh, he felt like it was coming from that, and it turned out to be non-Ajuntumphoma. It was pre-cancerous lesions, but they would never return his phone call, and they knew it, and they just didn't want it, you know, so they sandbagged him. And he was the sweetest guy when we got him on the sand. He was married to this beautiful Hispanic woman. They had fallen in love the first time they saw each other

at community college and they had this wonderful marriage. And he couldn't sleep in the bed with her anymore because he had so many lesions on his body. He wouldn't go in the swimming pool because if anybody saw him in the pool, they would think they were going to get a disease. His life was just so miserable. The jury loved him. They gave him 280 million dollars. 280 million. And then the next one, I forgot, I think we got around 300 million in the second, the third one we asked for, it was a couple who were both gardeners, home gardeners, and they brought their dog with them, home gardeners, they had a laboratory retriever.

A laboratory died of non-hudges and a phoma. What? You got it the same time they did. The couple both got the same retriever. And the dog got it. The dog died first and then they were really sick. We asked the jury for a billion dollars and we had a big argument about it. You know what do you ask the jury because you don't want to ask them for too much because then they think you're overreaching and they may punish you. Okay. Oh, the one guy who was arguing, doing the closing argument,

a lawyer called Brent Wissner, very young lawyer, but really brilliant. And we were all saying you should ask them for 300 million, that's what the other juries were paying us. And he said, I'm gonna ask him for a billion. I feel like the jury, the likes, says they came back with 2.2 billion. No, gonna ask him for a billion. I feel like the jury, the likes, as they came back with 2.2 billion. No, we asked him for a billion.

Yeah. And so they were pissed him on Santa. They were so angry because we also show that I just stayed away right there who just walked by Brent Wizzner. Wow. God, I gotta pick up some on Santa on the way home. Yeah, you gotta go to law school, see? I don't wanna be the other man I gotta get. I gotta get up some months to dance on the way home. Yeah, you gotta go to law school, you know.

One of the other, man, I gotta get a case like this. Anyway, I didn't mean to go off on this, but what I was saying is, when we were trying these cases, we were trying one after the other. So I ended up spending like the better part of a year in San Francisco. And every morning when I was in San Francisco before court, I would go down to the court out to the gym in Union Square. Union Square

is the center of San Francisco. And it's the center of commerce. It has all the big, you know, American, iconic American stores like Macy's and Bloomingdale's and Nordstrom and gap and old Navy and Levi and then it has all the foreign stores like Prada and De La Valle and Gucci and Fettigombo hair maze. Yeah, Ferragamo and Burberry and all of those Oh, it's like Fifth Avenue. It is the Fifth Avenue and people come from Asia all over to do their shopping there. So, you know, I went back three weeks ago and it was astonishing. Those houses or those stores are all boarded up. They're everyone of this closed. And they're

closed because all of them homeless on the street making them the chaos that's going on on the street, it makes people feel unsafe. Well, yes, some guy just started a pop-up bar. Do you see that? A guy started a bar. Where? Oh, he was a bar.

See if you can bring that up. Yeah. Yeah, I got it. Yeah, look at this. I mean, I think you're starting to see, yeah, people are like, well, I'm so homeless, there's obviously no zoning going on. So why don't I open up a Dave and Buster's type of place?

Denver homeless camp features pop-up bar. Yeah, it's wacky. Let's see, a decked out open air. There you go. See, look, you can see the bottles right there. They have a kind of V, I wouldn't call it VIP, but I would call it maybe HIVIP. It looks a little dicey over there, sorry. And I should have said that, man, but you should have said that.

But you know, a lot of people have been ill, but yeah, I think people are going to start starting businesses, you know, it's a lot of people have been ill and but yeah, this is I mean, I think people are gonna start starting businesses, you know Yeah, I mean that's what it gets is the 10 or the honor lives. I think the 10 I don't know that could be the pop-up Speakeasy which features lounge chairs umbrellas and astro turf has taken over the sidewalk at 23rd and champ Champa streets which the city's growing homeless population has turned into an encampment. I love this kind of stuff. So, I, we're hearing there was an open bar, that's where the Denver Police Patrol Division Chief said.

Anyway, yeah, I think, but at least it's evolving. It's not just homeless people just being homeless. At least I think you're gonna start to see mom and pop businesses out there. You know? Here's what, you know, my son actually, because I had a lot of assumptions about why people are homeless. And it's, you know, there's 525,000 homeless people in this country. And, but 50% of the unsheltered homeless are in California.

Okay. California only has 12% of the population, but it's 50% of the unsheltered homeless. And unsheltered homeless means homeless that don't have a place to sleep at night. It's okay. It's people who are on the sidewalks. Like freelance, yeah.

Right. Or they're in shelter, you know, they're, yeah, like free range. Yeah. So, um, my, here's my assumptions that homelessness is linked to drug addiction. It's linked to mental illness. It's linked to, you know, poverty. And that people are in count. One of the reasons there's so many homeless in California is that everybody knows that San Francisco as this very generous kind of giving attitude towards social services.

And so if you're homeless anywhere else in the country, you, you know, you would like to move with good weather. Yeah, you know, you don't wanna be in New York sleeping on a grate in the country, you would like to move with good weather. You don't want to be in New York sleeping on a grate in the middle of winter when it's snowing. Get on a gray out and come out to San Francisco and celebrate. I also had heard this, which turns out not to be true, that in some cities like Dallas or Nashville, if you are homeless, instead of putting you in jail, they give you a bus ticket to San Francisco.

Oh, wow. I don't know if it's true or not. Anyway, so my son turned me on to this writer called, my son Conor, Matthew Desmond, and Matthew Desmond has written these books on homelessness, and he's done these studies on homelessness. And in San Francisco, they actually went around and interviewed thousands and thousands of homeless people. And what they found is that the people who are homeless in San Francisco are from San Francisco and they're from California and they weren't, they didn't come from somewhere else. So it's not a lot of people you have bus stand or transplants or whatever.

Right. He also says that it has very little to do with drug addiction. You know, the states like West Virginia has much more drug addiction and San Francisco, and yet it doesn't have a homeless problem. So West Virginia has much worse poverty problem than San Francisco. San Francisco actually, I think it's the richest city in the country, and maybe wrong, but I think it's the richest.

And it doesn't, so, in terms of mental illness, you have to assume they're the same. There's no reason, but also Detroit. Detroit has much higher drug addiction, much higher poverty, and it doesn't have a almost problem. And what Matthew Desmond says is the reason for almost one reason, one reason is housing prices. It all has to do with housing prices in California. You know, we have the highest housing prices in the country here in LA where we are the average

home cost $815,000, which means you have to earn $250,000 to be able to pay to be able to pay for that. And why do they get so high like, is it demand that makes them so high? I'm going to tell you that the average home in our country two years ago was 215,000. The today is 400,000 and the interest rates have gone from three to seven percent. So kids today, like your kids and my kids are never gonna buy a home. It used to be. So if they're not gonna buy a home,

yeah, and the median price of home sold by realtors is risen sharply since the beginning of the pandemic. And here's why this is happening. There's three big companies, BlackRock, State, Sri Lanka, these are the biggest companies, and they have a monopoly on a lot of the housing market, right? Well, what they do, they own everything, including they own each other.

So it's really just one big company, and BlackRock that has $10 trillion under management. The GDP of California is three, or 10 trillion. The GDP of California is three or ten trillion the GDP of California is three trillion dollars and so there are three times the size of California. California economy is the fifth largest in the world of all nations. So when you have that much control can't you just make your own universe they can't you? Yeah, we'll say so they own those three companies own 88% of the S&P 500. So they basically just own everything and now that what they've decided is they want to own every single family home in our country. So they're and they're now on track. There's now on trajectory. If we continue

it on this trajectory, they will own the corporations, will own 60% of the single family homes in our country. And they're, you know, they pay nothing for money. So they're like, if you're the richest person in the country, their Black Rocks cost of money is 30% lower than you. So you, you know, when you're competing against our kids and your kids, why is it so different? They want it now. They want to own everything. Why is it percentage of the cost of the value of borrowing? Oh, because they are, their credit is so impeccable. Oh, I see. They have like 900. Yeah. So they got the better than the best credit rating. I got six, 70 or something.

I don't know. What's okay? I don't know. Yeah. But isn't that like privatized communism or something? That's what it feels like. Well yeah, it's like socialism for the rich. And you know, this barbaric merciless, ruthless savage.

Can you think of it as a lesson for the poor? Yeah, do you think there's some trickle down effect of that that makes people feel like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I was talking, we had this guy, John Vervecchio and he talks a lot about meaning and stuff like that. And he said that people feeling like they're part of a country or they have like a part of a home, you know, part of a group. It creates a lot of meaning for them, you know,

just in their life. And I think I notice even with my own, like, probably like our parents and stuff, I think a lot of them were very pro-America. And they had family members that died for our country. And they, it meant something to them to be part of America. And then now I think a lot of them

see this unfolding or the flag fraying at the stitching. And I think it's very scary. Because if you start to feel like you don't have your country, then you start to feel like, okay, it's every man for himself in a way. Does that make any sense? Yeah, and you know, and you're absolutely right. There's a poll that came out three weeks ago

that showed that in 2013, kids, between 18 and 35 years old, that 85% of young Americans said they were proud of the United States. And then another poll, the same poll, came out three weeks ago. It showed that only 17% of kids say that they're proud of it to be a, you know, I said, it was really, you know, devastating. But one of the things that you were saying, I think is true that if you own a home,

you care more about your community. You care about the schools. You care about the police, you care about the hospitals, you take care of your garden, you make it look nice. You might feel like you're likely to help your neighbor. Exactly, because you're there, you're part of the community, and turning us all into, you know, and you also are a participant

in the capitalist system, because if you won't home, you have equity, which means, let's say you want to start a business, even like a tiny business, like buying a sewing machine. Yeah, doing sewing, what else can we do? You can do, or if you want to start a restaurant, popcorn, like a caramel corn? Exactly. Something like that.

It's great idea. But you could get a loan, or you can go along right on your house, and so you have an on-tray and a capitalist system. Yeah, and you make, because then you're always, everything's possible, you can sit down with your family at night and be like, hey, mom and dad are thinking about doing this business What do you guys think and maybe your son's proud of you and it creates excitement in your house, you know

And even if like I remember mom went to law school and she couldn't do it because she had too many kids and it was too much work But I was still always proud of her that she tried to do it, you know like I think yeah Having the the financial ability to do stuff like that is just so important man And then otherwise you feel yeah, if you're just a renter if everybody's a renter I think having the financial ability to do stuff like that is just so important, man. And then, otherwise, you feel, yeah, if you're just a renter, if everybody's a renter, you don't, nobody, you just feel like you're like a renter by force, like you don't even have a choice to be a renter.

You know? Yeah, that's kind of scary. How do we battle against that? And is it something that a president can do or a political official can do? Or it's something that, how do we turn reverse that? Well, I don't know. I mean, there's parts of what they're doing that. Yeah, a president can do it. For example, they own all the backing companies.

There's only four meat backing companies. And those companies have a stranglehold on farmers and consumers. And they should have been prosecuted a long time ago for antitrust. But because BlackRock is so powerful, nobody will touch them. Wow.

And so that's a dark arts, huh? Yeah. I mean, they're just, you know, what they're doing is they're just, they're just strip mining the wealth and equity from the American middle class. And you see that, you know, yet sad. And how do we, how do you, who is it? Who is BlackRock? The head of it is, uh, is the CEO is a guy called Larry Fink. He's also on the board of directors of the World Economic Forum. So the, in the World Economic Forum, you know, is meets in Davos, a billionaire's boys club. I mean, Davos, they meet in Davos every year and they try to figure out what, um, their plans plans are for the rest of humanity. Are they greedy? I would say they have a bad reputation for very self-serving policies.

Their big policy is called the Great Reset. And what here's Claude Schwab says, famously, he says, under the Great Reset, will own nothing, but you will be happy That's what they believe. Yeah, that's what they do have a belief their belief is that you will own nothing, but you'll be happy all of us will own nothing But they will because they will own everything And they may be a little happier who knows wow today's episode is brought to you by better help If you um if you need therapy or you've considered therapy, it's okay to try it out. I've tried so many therapists. It takes you a while, so I'm going to find the right one, but when you do, it's a good fit and it feels good. Better

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Because I think a lot of people, it, I mean, this is why you have people that start to go to conspiracy theories. This is why you have people that start to look like, for alternate, people are looking for hope really. A lot of times in a conspiracy theory, people are also looking for hope. They're looking for something that shows them

that something that's out of what everything feels like could be possible, right? Do you, well, let me ask you this, do you consider yourself a conspiracy theorist? No, but I consider myself open to curiosity. I think, yeah, I consider myself open to curiosity. I think it would be silly not to listen to possibility. And I think some of the, it's sometimes it's the curious guy who at first people are like, this guy's bonn-bananas, who ends up being bananas foster, you know, which is good if you've had it or not.

Yeah, but yeah, it's pretty good. I'll say that. Yeah, one of my, I used to work at this restaurant and or not. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good. I'll say that. Yeah, one of my, I used to work at this restaurant and one of my coworkers, he's like, man, I hate seeing bananas foster on the menu because I was raising a foster home and it makes me sad, not ridiculous. Well, yeah, like just to equate like bananas foster

and being raised into foster home, but I was like, but I've, he still had some every now and then bananas foster and being raised in a foster home, but I was like, but I've he still had some every now and then and I think it made him feel pretty good, but, um, but yeah, I think would you ask me about it? Uh-oh. I just was asking about conspiracy theory. Yeah, I don't think, well, I think since to me, since the new like, the new started to get compromised, it feels like a few years ago. And I'll, one thing I do like using is that word compromised.

That's kind of like it can spears in there as a word, you know? But I feel like when I was a child, it felt like the news was real. And it was like, this is the news and it was honest. I don't know if it was. That could have been me romancing it too, but it felt like that. And then at a certain point,

which feels like about maybe 10 years ago, the news started to become more different. Did you notice that in your life? Yeah, I did. And I watched it happen because originally, like the news, they going back to when they invented radio 1928, they passed a law that was called the Fairness Stock, it was called the Communications Act, and they said, they did a bunch of things, they said,

nobody could monopolize the news. So now there's five companies that on all the TV, all the radio, all the newspapers, and most internet content providers. And they didn't want that to happen because they thought then, you know, these large corporations will control what we're thinking because they're going to control the information flow. And that's bad for democracy. Oh, they said you, you know, you can own no more than eight radio stations. And you couldn't own a newspaper and a radio station, a television station, the same. That sounds like fair to me.

Yeah, they wanted a diversity of ownership. It was called the fairness doctrine, but they also said, if you're using the public airwaves, which means radio or television, that if you make a statement, you need to give the other side a chance to respond. And you also need to put the news on every day, at times when Americans are likely to be at home to say it.

So they have to. In order to, like NBC did not own that air wave, it had a license to use it, and it could only use it if it benefited the public interest. The way that it did that is it said, okay, we're going to create a news division. The news division always lost money, but they were willing to pour money in because it was the only way they could hold onto their license. And they made a guy, we'd explain that part to me. Sorry. That's what I see what they can say is you can you can use a the airwave to make money by entertaining people, right? But you have to

tell the real news, the authentic news, the important news that affects policy decisions that Americans have to make about their government. Okay. And you have to do it every day at a time when all Americans are gonna be home, are likely to be home. So that's why we had a six o'clock news hour. It's also radio stations. If you probably, I don't know if you remember this or not, but it used to be even the top 40 music stations,

had a news break like every 15 minutes. There was a short news break where they would tell you the news. Hall Harvey, remember him? Exactly. Good day. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, they had to do that. That was a legal obligation. And the wow. And the news divisions were separate from the rest of the operations. And they were untouchables. So they'd bring some, you know bring some really credible figure like Newton-Mino or the way to Walter Cronkite and Huntland, Brinkley and John Jazz are these guys

who were total integrity people. And everybody, the most credible man, the most believed credible man in America was Walter Cronkite. And so all of those newscasters were people of extraordinary integrity. Then what happened is Ronald Reagan, when he ran for president in 1980, he had the support of the big studio heads in California because he had been the California governor. They wanted to abolish the fairness doctrine so they could get their hands.

They could consolidate the entire media and under monopoly control. And he had the Christian right, and the Christian broadcasting stations did not want to do the fairness. They didn't want to show the other side because they didn't want to show Satan's side of the argument. Right? So they all wanted to get rid of the fairness doctrine. And so Reagan came in and appointed a guy, I think his name was Tom Wheeler, it run the FCC, the federal communication, and they threw out the fairness doctrine. At that

point, you saw this huge consolidation where they started buying up everything. You also saw the news divisions were told, okay, you know, we don't really need you to have integrity anymore. We need you to make money. So the news division became profit centers. And so you saw more and more news that was not really news. It was, you know, about Brad and JLo and it was entertainment. Yeah. It was stuff to get eyeballs to make people and violence and war and, you know, and so you saw this deterioration where from a highly credible people on the news to people that you have today who are just, you know, propagandists for the government and for the pharmaceutical companies. Muppets, man. Yeah, the people that turn into Muppets did um,

but so whenever they, so it was Christian activism that made them and making them repeal that. It was a combination of things. The Christian broadcasters for good reason, you know, they had good reason, they didn't want to tell, like because like for example, yeah, give me an example, I'll give you an example of that, that NBC,

I think it was NBC, their NBC or ABC was having advertisements, were selling advertisements for Mustang, which the automobile. Oh, yeah. That's staying, that, yeah. At that point, it was the biggest gas-gastling automobile. Oh yeah. That's staying. That's that point. It was the biggest gas cussling automobile. And so the the ad want an asthma society of America. They hated Mustangs. Yeah, they didn't like Mustangs because they're like, come on. Come on. You should have asthma. If you get a Mustang, you got a chance with the ladies up there. But if you just show up with asthma, do you deserve it from me? Yeah, yeah, it's not a good self.

Yeah, asthma has one speed, dude. You know, sorry, go on. So they, they wanted to do an ad saying, Mustangs are bad because they're making us, you know, they're making us have asthma attacks. And the, and the, the network didn't want to do it. They said, no, you know, they, we want to sell Mustang. We want to sell Mustang.

So they told the, the asthma society, you can't, you know, we're not going to let you, we're not going to sell you ad space. So they sued, they went to the Supreme Court, Supreme Court said, you got it, you got to allow them to stop both sides. And they upheld the fairness doctrine. So you, if you applied that to Christian broadcasting and said you got here using a public airway, right? You know, if there's atheists out there who want to give their side of the story, right? Maybe you'll have to do that

so they didn't want to. Wow. They didn't want to do that. So they were, you know, and you can see the rationale. Yeah. And then also that leans into more like towards, yeah, things being able to create monopolies then, it seems like, you know, well, them monopoly exactly. Now we are where we are today, what were they said? Every city you go to, like, I'll go to a city, if you go as a comedian, you go to do radio sometimes before. And, you know, it used to be you had kind of a local radio station

and now all of them, or most of them are kind of clear channel, you know, and I'm not denouncing clear channel, I don't, but they're all like usually like part of a bigger group, you know, and you can't find like a local newspaper anymore, like that used to be like part of the community like getting yourself in the newspaper, you would get like a little trophy for, you know, you didn't do nothing really, maybe you found a missing person or something and they would put you in the newspaper or something you know but it was like you kind of got to see like everything that was going on in your community like baseball scores for little league games I think things that made you feel attached to your environment you know and they don't have that

anymore it's like everything's just too big now to get it to fit into like smaller communities you know or maybe you'll get a paper like once a week now or something you know it's just different just too big now to get it to fit into smaller communities. Or maybe you'll get a paper like once a week now or something, it's just different. Now, I agree with you, I'm just happy with that. I think that's, and I think there's a real appetite for localness, people wanna know what happened on the baseball.

I mean, I grew up reading about kids who I was playing sports with. Yeah, right. And you'd read about them in the local papers. They were heroes to you. I'd say you had local heroes. It's like, yeah, now it just feels like they want all your heroes to be

from the Marvel universe or you're not even allowed to have a hero anymore. And I don't know, maybe I'm rom I'm romancing that a little bit, but I definitely notice it when I go home, I can't find like the local news and see kind of what's going on. And then so then you're not attached to it. You don't really. Where do you, you consider home Nash from Louisiana from coming to Louisiana. So, but um, is coming to and is that a, is that in the Delta or something? No. Comington is south of the day. It's kind of like, let me see,

southwest of the Delta. Yeah, comington is over there. We had, I'll tell you something neat about comington. Well, we have the tallest at your Ronald Reagan and you're welcome to come see it whenever you want. Really? Yeah. And Michael Laine was supposed to come there one time

but he couldn't make it. Michael Linden. he was supposed to stop and he didn't make it that's a big selling point for that Yeah, Michael Lennon was almost here. I guess it's a pretty big look at that statue that I buddy Oh, I can't tell how big it is bigger than the trees though. Yeah, it's 10 feet tall or it could be somebody said it's even 12 feet tall But I think they somebody had a bad rule around them, but Also Lee Harvey Oswald went to our middle school there For a little bit. Yeah, and What else? The Tulane primate facility is there and they tested the polio vaccine

There's actually made the polio vaccine that ended up giving cancer to a lot of women to like cervical cancer But it had a virus that a monkey virus, and it called SV40. Yeah, that's where they tested it at. Yeah. And some of the monkeys got out when I was a kid, and we got to get out of YMCA summer camp top on look form, which is pretty crazy when you think about it. Is that true? Yeah.

They had a Kenny Rogers roasters, and we're out there wrangling champs with a couple of local police. Wow. Pretty cool, huh? Um, but anyway. So there's actually, you know, there's a book, uh, you go the escape right there. Oh, wow. There's a book called Mary's Monkey.

Yeah. And it's about, uh, you know, the, uh, Dr. Mary's Monkey, is that it? Maybe it's just Mary's Monkey. Dr. Mary's Monkey. Dr. Mary's Monkey. Yeah. And it's about the secret lab. It's about the Kennedy assassination, but it's about the Tulane lab.

And there were people involved in that lab who were, you know, who were involved with the Army as well. And did you go down a lot of rabbit holes ever like kind of searching like just about information about? Well, you know, I feel like I'm really, I'm really evidence based. Oh, I don't make any presumptions, but I read everything. Yeah. But it's that book is actually very, very well researched and very interesting. Yeah, yeah, I think I don't know if I've read all of it, but I've definitely read a decent amount of it. Man, yeah, I think I don't know if I've read all of it, but I've definitely read a decent amount of it.

Man, yeah, congratulations. Since I saw you last, you were running for election. Yeah. That's cool, man. You didn't say that coming. Yeah. I don't know, because I think I almost think I asked you about it. I'll have to go back and see if there was a clip where I asked you

if you would at some point. Because it's like you were so well-spoken. I didn't have any intention. Was it hard to, did you have to convince your family that it was okay for you to run? Well, the one person I had to convince was my wife. My kids were like, I actually went up to Boston and I had three boys who were in Boston at that point. And I went out and took them out to lunch and they weren't like, okay, go get them to add.

They were like, okay, this was you, buy the ticket, take the ride. And they were not, I think now they're much happier about it because the way it's kind of turned out, but they didn't know what was gonna happen at that point. And then Cheryl, who you know, it took, she took a lot of convincing, but what happened is I was, you know,

I thought at one point because they were censoring me. In fact, you got, you know, you got a hammer. You got an episode of God taking down that's right. And then miraculously got put up again. How did that happen? Like a month ago. Oh, it came back up on YouTube.

One of the episodes that have been taken down came back up on YouTube. I mean, it had been gone. Bobby had been gone. And then it just showed back up. That's weird. Well, we suit them. But I doubt if that's the reason because you two, yeah, they're still taking our stuff down. Wow, good for you. That's cool when you're a lawyer because then you can sue somebody if you need to. That's a great idea.

You actually made a wager whether or not that episode would be taken down RFK. He said it would be and Theo Betham that it wouldn't Dang how much was it for yeah, how much was it for we have the clip one sec All right, it's gonna get interesting. We'll see if anybody's getting paid this week right here or other God this could be bad. Well whatever it is Bobby. We'll donate to your campaign. Okay How have campaign donations been oh you have the God, this can be bad. Well, whatever it is, Bobby, we'll donate to your campaign. Okay. How have campaign donations been? Oh, you have the credit. You know, we had the Eric Clapton concert last night.

Let's play a question that came in actually right here from a guy for you, Bobby, this right now. Is this life? This is not life. None of this is life and this question isn't life. This is all. Because I wanna make sure you have an option of not playing

Podcast video. No, I don't I think I were okay Yeah, I mean we you know, I'm generally curious and I think I'm worried about your career Thanks, well the good I feel like I own my own career until Like I don't need a Hollywood career, you know, but it's definitely I worry about like my career of like I guess Maybe like YouTube cancelling us or people saying that we can't do this anymore, you know That's the scary part is this on YouTube. Yeah, this will be on YouTube. So with our last one stayed up Okay, let's make that Inflations happen all Let's make a team.

We were ahead of the curve. We had a question right here from somebody that came in. Anyway, last night, you asked about donations. We got, we were at Eric Clapton. And there are Steve Stills, Eric Clapton. And we met and did that at a private home in Brentwood. And we got $2.2 million of that way. We're doing well on donations.

How was it? Because you were kind of like looked at as like a guy that was like a nut case by some people, right? Yeah, not by me. I thought you were definitely curious and active. You know, and I knew you as a person. So I knew that like, you seem like a, like as normal as a guy could be to me, you know. Were you surprised when people started to get on board though with you?

Like, I, because I remember I listened to you, I mean, I, I listened to you on Rogan, I thought it was one of his best episodes. I thought it was just, I remember you thanking him for letting him, letting you speak, right? And it was like, you know, I remember just listening and I just got a clear layout of exactly kind of where you'd been and how you ended up where you were, you know. And I thought it was just awesome and I thought that was such a great interview. Did things start to turn after that or when did things kind of start to turn do you feel

like? The big turn for me was a podcast I did before that call all in. You know that podcast. It's David Sacks and it's a bunch of tech people who are leaders in the kind of tech, Bitcoin community, or San Francisco based, the financial service, Friedberg, okay. And it's very, very popular.

I mean, I cannot, I can't tell you how popular, the reason I know how popular it is, is I almost every day somebody comes up to me and says, I saw you on that. Wow, no matter where I am in the country and it's a very weird demographic because it's not. It's all kinds of people like it'll be like an old lady and you know young college kids and that's amazing. I'm not going to check this out all in with Shemop, Jason, S, and Friedberg or Fryberg.

And so, I went on there and there's four guys and they all kind of grilled me. And then, Rogan brought me on. Megan Kelly was really good with me. She had me on about three times when nobody would let me on. And then Fox started letting me on a lot. And so I could go on my, you know, the thing is that I get a lot of eyeballs when I go on.

So they, I think this is what they told me because I went and met with their editorial board that, you know, it was, that I was getting more eyeballs than any other gas. Wow. On Fox. Yeah, on Fox. And I think the same as CNN, but CNN won't let me on. The only guy who's let me on CNN was Michael Schmack-Khanish.

And he was a very short interview, but he got a lot of trouble for it. Wow. So you're running for, you're running right now, you're running for president. Yeah. With the Democratic under the Democratic party, right? At the moment. Okay, and so the, is it usual, is it normal

that someone is able to run against the incumbent? I want to make this clear from audience because some audience I hear words a lot of times and I don't know what they mean So like the incumbent is the guy who's already in office, right? Yeah, so if a president has already done one term then he's the incumbent as he goes up to do the second term Right, yeah, and he has to run against someone who's submitted by the other party Well, he ultimately has to run against someone who's submitted by the other party. Well, he ultimately has to run about, the other party is going to nominate

somebody to run against. So the Republicans will nominate somebody to run against. But if you're a Democrat, if you're popular within your own party, a lot of times you won't have a challenger from within your own party. So you only have to go to the prize fight.

You don't have to fight all the blue, because those who are coming after you. And who determines if they have to fight all the blue? Well, it would be me. I would run against them. But my father ran against Linda Johnson in 68. Linda Johnson was an incumbent Democratic president and my father challenged him. And ultimately Johnson withdrew and he pulled out of the way it raised. And then my father wrote one of the primaries.

And he was killed. My father was killed on the night of the last night of the primaries. So June 6th, he won, you know, the last primary of California, South Dakota and a couple of others. And he was killed that night. My uncle Ted Kennedy ran in 1980 against Jimmy Carter, who was a president of his own party. So yeah, it's not uncommon for people to run against a president there on party. So yeah, it's not uncommon for for people to run against a president there on party.

And, you know, I, I've had a long friendship with Biden. I've known President Biden for at least 40 years. Oh, wow. And, and, you know, he has a statue of a bus that my father on the behind him in the oval office. Any picture that you have a Biden, there's a bus to my father, you can call him. And there's five members of my family who are working in the administration. In the Biden administration? Yeah, wow. Different, you know, different ways. Yeah, yeah. And so, do you, do you get the nomination from his party for the 2024? And so, do you, do you get the nomination from his party for the 2024? Well, I think I could beat him in the, uh, and yeah, that you can see in that middle one, the second one from the right up there.

That one. There's a positive life out there behind him. Wow, that's awesome. That's so cool, man. That would be cool if my, where dad. Yeah, it's wonderful. Um, do you think that he will get the, yeah, so I guess I have two questions because some of the prices I can beat him if they give me a fair fight. Right. Right. Okay. But before that, do you think that they will, he'll get the nomination?

Well, I think I could get the nomination. Okay. If they give me a fair fight, I see. Do you think that you're currently getting a fair fight? No, why? Well, because they're They're doing you know the Democratic Party is supposed to be neutral They're not supposed to choose favorites, but they actually endorse them a week after he declared And his campaign is being run out of the Democratic Party office, which seems like convoluted, huh? Yeah, it's well. It's not it's a conflict and you know the member of the party should be separate from the president even if they're of the same yeah they're supposed to be even if they're both democratic yeah the party

should be neutral to say look we're going to be the referees in this fight it's like okay it's like if you went to a football game and the referee in the game was wearing the same uniform as you're the guys you were playing against. Right. You say, hey, yeah, yeah. So that's what they're doing. And what they've done is they've taken the states that voted most strongly against Biden last time around. And they've said, if anybody visits those, if I visit those states and no vote in that state will count in the election. So if I go to New Hampshire, which I did, any vote that I get, New Hampshire will not count. And if I go to what, it for me.

So if I beat Biden and New Hampshire, I went all the delegates, those delegates will not be allowed into the convention. But how can they just say that? Isn't there like a democratic process that overrides that? You would think, but actually, the party makes its own rules, and there was a Bernie Sanders, they did the same thing to Bernie Sanders.

Yeah, I cook you, man. And he sued them and said, you guys were fit rigged the game against me, you fixed it. And the court said, yes, they did fix it, but actually it's a private club, and they're allowed to fix it. They can make up any rules they want,

they can do anything they want. So see, this just leans so much more into like this stuff that like people feel like they're voting. Yeah, there you go. Matter. Courkins, EZNC had the right to rig primaries against Sanders. Yeah, and that. And that's Debbie Wasserman Schultz who, you know,

he shared Debbie Wasserman Schultz for violating the DNC chart about rigging the Democratic presidential primaries for their coming against Bernie Sanders. And she's the one who tried to silence me when I testified before Congress a couple of weeks ago. Wow. And so anyway, it just feels like it, so, it feels so dirty at every turn. Cold turkey, it may be great on sandwiches, but there's a better way to break your habits. We're not talking about some voodoo or say-onsury or anything like that.

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I think we should, the both parties should be conducting elections that are incredibly fair. And everybody looks and says, okay, this is a model, the America's the exemplary democracy for the world. It should be. And one thing you can say about America

is it has fair elections and every focus counted. And, you know, yeah, it's starting to remind me the articles I would read in the papers of like Venezuela, a lot of the Central American countries where they would be, there would be coups and stuff and they would be overriding the process because they thought the elections weren't fair, you know. Now, or, you know, the Soviet Union, the Communist Party, they said, we're a democracy, but the party would pick the candidate, and that'd be the only

guy you can vote for. And that is exactly what they're doing here. They're saying, you know, they're good. They're saying, the good and the bad and as we have a democracy, but there's only one guy and everybody's got a vote for him. But do they have the right to do that because he's the incumbent? I understand. They're right to do it within the democratic party process.

Okay. And then, so they, you know, they're gonna, you know, it's weird what's happening now, Theo, because the press is now turning against President Biden. So, you know, it has been interesting to see some of that, huh? Yeah. It's the first time ever I've seen some of the headlines that are, you know are either bringing his son's

issues into it or discussing impeachment, I've never seen that before. Yeah. And the Washington Post, there's a very famous journalist called David Ignatius, who is linked to the intelligence community. And he kind of speaks for you. If you, you know, if you, if you want to talk about the deep state, David Ignace is the voice of the deep state. And he came out and said, Biden's got to step down and then immediately CNN published a when did a stories about all Biden's lies.

And then I think today, Washington Post or New York Times, a more endowed, well, if he does that now, that is a story today about all of his lies. So you see these attacks on Biden that are not happening before. Right. And, you know, and you wonder what is going on.

Well, if he does step down, I hope it's not a far step to be honest with you because I don't know if he can handle it. You know, I think the saddest thing to me is, I feel like, I feel like Mr. Biden just isn't healthy. He doesn't seem like mentally healthy, right? To me, and I don't know, it could be that they've edit clips

to look a certain way. He just seems like he's, he doesn't seem as healthy as he once was, right? And so I feel like, to me, it's like a bad example that we, this is what we do with our old people. We put them out. It's like this is like a, you know, somebody we're just using.

It just, I don't know. It just seems like a bad example of how to treat other people, you know, like, this were my father and he were, to me, what would seem like ailing, like mentally just kind of either losing his composure that he probably wants to add. And it could be dementia.

His cock that's what I'm saying. If he were losing it, it would just hurt my feelings if they kept wheeling him out there, you know, but I don't know. Maybe that's what he wants and we just don't hear that part of it. But how do so what is your path and they really get to the presidential nomination for 2024? Is there a path for you?

Do you feel like? Well, if President Biden steps out but the decision kind of has to be made by October 15th, because there. That's soon. Yeah, because you'll know before Halloween. Yeah. The October 15th, because you'll know before Halloween. Yeah.

October 15th, you have to start qualifying in certain states so that you have to declare whether you're a Democrat or an independent or a Republican. And you can't, a lot of people think, well, you can run as a Democrat. And then if you lose everything, then you can just switch to independent and run on independent, but you can't do that. There's a lot of states have to sort of lose their laws and make it so that you have to choose early and you can't come in, you know, once you've chosen Democrat, you can't switch independent.

That's fair because every year they let Odell Beckham, Jr. join another team right before the Super Bowl. And I feel like it doesn't seem fair to anybody. Just, I get that he's good, but it doesn't seem that fair. So when do you have to, so, but you've already chosen that you're a Democrat, right? I mean, you've been a lifelong Democrat. Is there a chance that you would run as an independent?

Do you look at that ever like, and how do you even evaluate that? Yeah, I mean, I, you know, if they really shut down the process, we're right now, you know, we're grappling with the DNC trying to get them to do the right thing. But if they rigged the process so that I can't possibly win, which is how it's rigged right now, then I would have to look at other options. I would have to look at running as, you know, maybe outside of the party or something.

I don't know exactly what I do. I'm hoping that they'll open up the process and let me run. You know, we pulled this week and I, if President Biden steps down, I have a pretty clear path to the nomination. My numbers are better than any other Democrats, including the vice president, Kamala Harris. And then if he stays in and they give me a fair fight, I think I can beat him. So it's kind of, it's tough to figure out kind of, you're kind of just navigating the space, huh?

Who's ahead in the national polls? He, he, he beats me among Democrats in the national polls. But if you could get a third of people to switch that were Republicans and a third would Democrat, yeah, that's the thing is that those polls aren't looking at the Republicans who want to vote for me or the independence. Okay. If you can't get it run this year, would you run in the next one? No, I'm not thinking that far ahead. Okay, you're not.

No, I'm not thinking all about that. Some people say that you are that the Republican Party like sets you up to take. Do you ever hear, do you hear about this? Yeah, I hear that. I'm like a stocking artist for Trump. And all I can say is, you know, I don't believe that. I'm just asking you. I don't believe that.

Well, you should ask me. I mean, you shouldn't do it publicly like you just did. Really? No, no, I'm just kidding. No, you should ask me. Yeah, yeah. But the here's the thing. Here's the problem with that.

First of all, if the Democrats make rules that say, I cannot win, and then they complain about me running somewhere else, it's like a guy who murders his parents and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he's an orphan. Yeah. They're trying to get public sympathy for a problem that they created. I hate when I see bananas foster on the menu.

No, that's not because. But no, I see what you're saying. It's almost like they're playing two cards that are trying to do two different things, but one of them kind of concede that there's some truth in the other one. Yeah, but the other thing is that I take more votes from President Trump and I do from President Biden. Right. So why would that help? Yeah, it's not helping them. Yeah. Yeah. I thought about that. Um, when you look at, uh, do you feel like there's, do you feel like that the democratic national party has treated you fairly like they do every

other candidate. Do they always try to like, how does that usually work? I think what they do, you know, the DNC has a lot of donors. Okay. The DNC. Yeah, the Democratic National Committee and the, you know, and the donors are BlackRock State Street Vanguard. Oh, really?

Yeah, the big pharmaceutical company, all the people that I assume on Santa, etc. They've got two billion dollars in their bank accounts and it comes from those donors and they don't those donors do not want to see me, you know, running as the Democratic model. Yeah, and spending their money. My environmentalist for sure. Right. And spending their money, then, you know, dismantle their very exploitive business models. And so progressive candidates like me, who challenged, you know, the corporate control of our country, even like Bernie Sanders, Tulsi Aberde,

and me are, you know, told, we don't want you in the party. So that's, you know, and who do you get an email? Do you get a love attack? No, no, no, they just, we just watch what they you in the party. Oh, that's, you know, and who do you get an email? Do you get a loan? No, no, no, they just, we just watch what they do with the rules. You know, how can they change the rules? So that votes for me and New Hampshire don't count. Seats, tankers.

So it's like, you know, Dennis Cousinich, who's running my campaign, who's ran for president twice himself and Dennis Cousinich. Yeah, he was, he was the youngest mayor in the country. He was the boy mayor of Cleveland. You know, the mafia tried to kill him when he was shot at him and stuff when he was mayor of Cleveland. He's a very, very progressive and you know,

a man of utter complete integrity. But he's been around probably served, I think, I don't know, six or maybe ten or twelve terms in Congress. He was, and he ran for president twice. And he got bullets through his, I think, through his living room. Wow. It's a party. living room. Wow. It's a party. Dennis Kusenich. Yeah. Anyway, he said to me, you know, when I was saying, you know, when we were talking about the Democratic Party, he said to me, what part of FU? Do you not understand? You know, they're not, they don't have to write you a letter and say, right, you know,

go jump in the lake, they're just saying, they're changing the rules so that they're rigging the game against a democratic process. Does that inspire you a little bit? That's what's going on. You know, I have the same program you do. Just live one day at a time. Yeah.

Keep doing the next right thing. Yeah. And, you know, trying to maintain kind of money in her calm and not, and not, you know, if God wants me right to win, I'm going to wait. I just gotta keep doing the right thing and nothing could stop me in that case. That's a great point. Yeah. I feel like, I mean, I go to meeting every day. On the road, I'm in a different city every day. And that's the one thing. I was, oh wow. And I bid us some govans recently,

anywhere particular that kind of stood out. I went to one in Maine that was pretty cool if he went back. A guy in our, a guy who was like this and our. No, I, yeah, I went to one the other day where It was a guy and that first of all I went to one in Barbados one time where they were Mon they were talking no beer for me man They were talking about it was like a night's meeting and they were talking about how to take curses off of people

And I went to one in Belfast during the war there, which was really interesting. Oh wow. Yeah, but I went to one the other day and they were, it was, and I went to this, it was a new ham sure and they were, they were, and the people, I've been to a couple times, and the people that meeting recognized me, they know I am most of them And it's it's a very supportive atmosphere for me, you know, I don't know whether Republicans are Democrats But anyway, it's very nice a very warm safe kind of place and I heard a guy who was a break they took those meetings up in New England, they took

a five minute cigarette break, halfway through the meeting. And it's from like the old days. And this guy was sitting like four or five seats behind me. And he's one of these old people who talks really loud because he's going deaf. Yeah. And he's, you know, they come to say by talking super loud. Yeah. Yeah. And he was saying, uh, he was saying, RFK Jr.

And he had three or four of his cronies around him talking to him. They were whispering to him, you know, that's RFK Jr. And he said, he's the anti-vaxxa. And I, you know, I was just, listen, I just, I was like, I can hear what you're saying. Anyway, yeah, some seniors said this is a whisper, it's a little high, a little high into whisper. And then he did speak of that meeting and he spoke about how important it was to get your jab and stuff.

And I could tell I was directed sort of clearly, it was directed with me. But I feel like peaceful. And after I went up and talked to him, said, I and smile. But it makes me, my job is to stay sort of peaceful and serene and not anything that I've ever done in my life that is enduring, that is important, has come out of, you know, that spiritual place and anything that I do that comes from frenetic activity is, you know,

it's just warm wood and bile. I know. I remember reading about Abraham Lincoln where he was, you know, he was the real splitter and everything. He had lots of cats too. He had cats? Yeah. He was a big cat owner.

Really? I know that he... I know that he loved animals. I did not know about that. Some man gave him two cats, two... Some man gave him two cats, William Seward right there. Oh, he was giving... I was about to have two kittens from Secretary of State.

He's real cat boy. I've been to his home. You know, his home. And the Springfield. Yeah, and they... One cool thing it's really neat about Springfield, bring it up if you can, Nick. They have like the whole neighborhood, they turned into a museum,

so you can go to his neighbor's house, you can go down the street. Oh, really? It's really cool. Yeah, like you literally feel like you're in the past. Yeah. I, um, so he also, on the same subject of him and animals, he was, he killed a turkey when he was like 12 years

old, he shot it from his cabin in Kentucky. And gobbler, yeah. And he went out and he saw it and it's final suffering. And he found that he would never kill an animal again. He was probably the only person in his generation that, if his wagon was going down the road and it was going to run over his snake, he'd stop and get out and pick the snake up and move it. He was, you know, which is ironic because, you know, he had a war that killed 659,000

people. But Grant, you list his grants, who did a lot of the killing you know hand and He had the same thing he never lost his time the only time that he was ever seen to lose his temper was when he saw a man beating all course Some real animal lovers, you know hooker that there was a charge kernel hooker general general hooker That's how they got the term hookers because he brought ladies in oh really to spend time with his Truth you know a lot of history of interesting history. I don't know about that. But I know about hookers, buddy That civil war yeah, they brought in hookers first but American civil war he was popular with his men because he didn't crack the whip

in terms of discipline it said After a hard day on the battlefield He would bring in prostitutes, but they eventually a lot of his men got diseases from unprotected sex and killed a lot of them anyway diseases from unprotected cells and killed a lot of them. Anyway, moving on. Anyway, I was saying about Lincoln. Lincoln said, he was asked, how do you, what would you do if you had to cut down a really big oak tree and you had five hours to do it? He said, I'd spend four hours sharpening the axe, which is good.

Yeah. It's a metaphor for keeping yourself in kind of a good. Yeah. It's like it's a metaphor for you know, keeping yourself in kind of a good spiritual space. You know, it's you're more efficient, and more effective. You expend less energy. Yeah. Yeah, man, I definitely, that's been probably a struggle for me this year, is trying to do too much, get them frenetic, and then acting, I'm getting a little better. I'm getting better at it, but acting from a place of like frenetic, you know, it's just, man, sometimes it just gets tough, you know. But every time I slow it down, every time I kind of do my morning routine well and do my

practice, everything's way different. What was one thing that, bright, we're both sober. So what was one thing that so bright, kind of adjusted or changed for you in your life that you didn't expect maybe? What was something that came out of it, or being a part of it or around it? Well, you changed everything in my life because I think before I came in I was just like a bundle of appetites. And that's when you're kind of living according to self-will and it's like whether it's drugs or alcohol or sex or extreme behavior or just I was always just filling that empty hole inside of me with things, trying to fix that by reaching for things outside of myself.

And my mind is like a formulation pharmacy. I can turn anything into a drug. And then trying to adjust your compass so that you're not living for self-will, but you're trying to do the next right thing and be of service to others. And that, you know, that that is what, you know, when I was, I feel like I was born an addict. I feel like I had just an empty hole inside of me from when I was a little kid. You don't think it was something really that caused it when you look at it. I don't think so, but you know, and you hear in the program all the time, like half the people think they were born with

it and others think that, you know, trauma, you know, had something to do with it and others. Just think that, you know, trauma had something to do with it. But, you know, I also, there's certain races like the Irish. That are, what do we know? Yeah, there's other ones too. They're the most thirsted ones. Yeah, the Irish, yeah. I mean, they're good at it. They make it look good.

I mean, for the Irish. I mean, we call it the Irish flu. Yeah. I don't know. It's, was it it you go into a meeting and you know yeah, in any meeting any place in the country and half the people in it are you know, so no Brian and oh yeah a lot of Irish yeah. Was it was there was there was alcoholism in your family? Was it popular? In my mother's family, it was back to the Neanderthals. Wow.

They were all, you know. And of all of my mother's siblings, she was the only one that did not get it. Mm. And, wow, that's a lot then. That's pretty strong. Yeah, it's just, it's good to have a program, man. I think it adds a lot.

I think it's definitely been a saving grace for me. For sure. Just the people I get to meet a program, man. I think it adds a lot. I think it's definitely been a saving grace for me. For sure. Just the people I get to meet, like last night a guy texted me a new guy. I've been texting in the rooms and we're texting and he hit me up. The yesterday was like, Hey, you want to go to a meeting? I wasn't going to go. You know, so next thing you know, I go and we're like over in Venice and it's 8 p.m. We're sit on a porch at some guy's house, you know, listening to a guy talk about how he was in a gang and his brother got killed right next to him, you know, and how for years he was using and then finally he started to get help and gotten in the program and just, but to sit there and hear a story like that was that real, you know, it's part of the fun of going

to the main. Right, I mean it just puts something real in your life. It's like I left out of there like sure, you know, it was, I mean, it just puts something real in your life. It's like, I left out of there, like sure, you know, it was very sad, but it was like a real thing. It was like, I left out of there with like, I don't know, it just, people sharing makes you feel more connected, you know. But you know, when you got sober, did you realize, did you, because a lot of, I know a lot of comics

feel like, you know, that alcohol and the drugs are part of what makes them funny. Did you, and that they have anxiety about getting sober because they think it might hurt? Yeah, I think I had some of that for sure. You know, I was in and out for a long time. I had three years sober and then I was in and out. And then finally, I just was so spiritually just empty. I got in a decent amount of popularity and I thought that that would achieve my happiness

or it would do something for me and it just didn't do anything. It was like literally getting to a top of a mountain or a decent ledge on a mountain and you're like, hang, I'm still on a mountain. That's what it felt like. And so I think that just made me realize that there was something bigger going on inside of me that I had to get some help for. And then just the gifts of it,

like seeing other people get well, like seeing people's lives turn around, like just, it's cool. I can go to a place every day, I can go somewhere and witness a miracle almost. And that's unbelievable You know people are looking for miracles and reasons to make them feel You know, and so I think that's one of the reasons I go to is because there it makes me feel in there

You know like regular life. It was always trying to find something to make me feel And I could never I couldn't do it. There wasn't anything that was doing it enough But man I go in there and I see somebody who their life has changed. And man, it makes me feel, you know? And that's really what I've always been looking for. I've just been wanting to feel. And that's probably one of the most blessings of it.

And then just getting to meet cool. I mean, like, you know, you and I are friends. I have so many, most of my friends are sober. You know, it's kind of great. It's just how it kind of works out. And also, some of me used to be the biggest derelicts. So you get to hang out with the craziest people most of my friends are sober. Yeah. You know, it's kind of crazy. It's just how it kind of works out. And also, some of me used to be the biggest derelicts. So you get to hang out with the craziest people

in the world, you know? I mean, alcoholics are generally kind of desparados. Yeah. Oh, they're interesting. You feel like a desparado in this campaign. I mean, one thing that I thought about was interesting about you is that nobody was in your pocket because nobody was getting on board with you.

It, you know, you like, yeah. It seemed like there's no choice. Like, there's nothing that's like, this is who we, this is, this guy is what he is. Whether you, he's not working for anybody. That's what it always was like. That's the most admirable thing to me about anything these days is like, I just want somebody who's not part of the status quo because the status quo feels very dangerous or

the system feels dangerous, you know? Yeah. Does that make sense or not? Yeah, and I, you know, it's, I don't know, I think, you know, my campaign, the way it came together, it feels, I don't know, it just feels like there's some, you know, all the people are involved in it are people who are, you know, in some kind of a spiritual quest, you know, and it's really interesting because they came from all, you know, different, but you know, there was an early on in my campaign We didn't have any money because most people who join who started campaign are there senators governors

They've been in politics before right so they have an email list and they have a huge war chest They come in with 20 to 30 million dollars and you're not allowed to raise any money to your registered with the FEC with federal election commission. So, you know, so you and I announced my campaign and I have no money in the bank. So, you know, let's say I get 5,000 calls and I say I want to help you. I got nobody as the phone. I don't have a phone because I'm not allowed to spend money until I register and so we were really desperate for money at the outside and a guy Said contact me and said through a friend and said, you know, I want to I can get $10 million for you fast Oh, thank I spent I

Met him in my hotel and I was like one of those consolidation credit card things. No, it was just a guy who you know he was an attorney who had a lot of clients. Oh, private deal in industries and he said who would give me money. But they were industries that I really didn't want to take money from. Yeah. And so, and he laughed. And I just didn't, it just didn't feel,

it felt like it just didn't feel right. And so I called the guy who'd brought him in and I just said, I can't do it. And I immediately felt like, yeah, that was the right decision. And if we're supposed to win, we're win, but whatever happens, at the end of this process, I'm gonna have my integrity intact. And that's the only thing that really matters.

Yeah. Wow, that's cool, man. Your wife seems so proud of you. I saw you on Tiger Belly. I felt like she seems so proud of you. That seemed pretty cool. That was wild at show. Yeah, I thought I first heard I was all there.

I was like, this is a different world, but I think yeah, that would you have you been on the show before? I've been on the show before, yeah. And what did you think of it? It's bonkers in there, you know? It's like, but it's just this very high energy, but he's so, he's such a sweet, yeah.

Bobby's a lovable guy. Lovable. Yeah, he is. And he's, what is he like? He's had a kind of a wildlife, you know? He's had an interesting life, but he's beloved by people. And I think part of his podcast is just being in his world and what it's like, you know?

So I thought it was brave of you to go, but I also thought that it was cool, you know, when you got to see you and your wife, and I just felt like, man, I could tell your wife just seemed real proud of you. Maybe she's also just a good actress, but she seems to love me, but, you know, I have to keep saying she's an actress,

how do I know? Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, one day she could just say, and see. Yeah. There was recently, there was like, you guys had an issue with the security, right? That happened. This is a few days ago maybe, where they had a guy

who was like, it looked like he was, here we go, arm man arrested at RFK Junior Campaign event in Los Angeles. Was this guy armed in supportive of you or was he armed and it seemed like he was against you, or was there, did you have any take on this? He showed up and he asked, he was wearing a US martial badge.

You can see it in some of the, he was wearing a landing, you can see the landing around his neck there. And at the end, and that is a badge that and identified him as a US Marshal. And then he had a federal ID on his belt. You can see there, right? He has some other kind of badge on his belt

and you see the badge around his neck. And that was determined to be fake. And somebody from my Gavin DeBecker associates was doing my security. They want, you know, the White House will not give me a secret service protection. So I've retained this group that's the premier security group in the country. And one of their guys looked at that badge and said, that's too shiny. Wow. It's not, it's not a real badge.

And so then they, he, why are, he called somebody else who's armed and the two of them cornered him and then they called the police and they kept him in the corner. They didn't want to grab him because they didn't want to start to shoot out. And they could see that he had shoulder holsters on heper. And so then the police came and and rest of me. He was asking for me. Oh, he was looking for me and he had two shoulder holsters with that were fully loaded pistols and then he had you can see that badge on his hip. Yeah, he's badged up. Yeah, and then he had he was also had a backpack that had another weapon in it. Another guy like a sword. He also had knives on him. And then he had a lot of extra magazines filled with ammunition. So he said afterwards, apparently his brother said,

oh, he heard there was a job opening for security, but you don't go to a job opening for security with all those magazines and guns and knives and due to three pistols. His brother, who brought him there, also was like an armory. Right. They had an all-car filled with weapons.

Wow. I have no idea. I don't know what he was looking for, but I'll tell you what. The thing that you should do is go on his YouTube. Uh-huh. I mean, he is a TikTok. Yeah? He is a TikTok site that he just opened.

So he only has one Ticktock video on it and it's of him just before he comes to the same thing really Yeah, yeah, he can find it nickel find it. It is Yeah, it can be people want to show up in that at the end of that thing. He says something to the effect of I'm going out to do a job right now. And if I don't come back, you know, if I don't come back, report to your commander, Donald J. Trump, your commander-in-chief. So it's a very kind of, okay, well, you want to watch this? It's about a minute. Yeah, it's worth watching. You got to turn the sound up. Oh, shit. Big homie Zorro over here. I think this is brother talking to him.

I think I need to see. We're like God's gangster. Shit, I hear you're the man with the plan. What's the word? I got it all. Actually, there's too much to tell you right now So I want you guys to go over to rumble check out icons 2020 Sarge I will be speaking with him and Alex call here You're not retiring homie. You didn't fucking ask me dog. I need you support. Okay, so this guy's not doing well, huh? No, yeah, this guy you're doing well, huh? No. Yeah. My name is this guy. I'm doing well. And this could be also be an advertisement for rumble. First name. I would see him go to something like this. I think I was

hit enough, but yeah, I get it. So this guy's like, yeah. And he does this little, you know, kind of let's see the end we see it by believes you are the last god and i'd ten seconds here we go if i don't make it back call the fucking president your commander in chief donald jay tron where's he going i didn't see a door over there when it was a wide shot so that's a weird part of he's see a door over there when it was a wide shot. So that's the

weird part of you just walking just over the like lots of tool chests. Wow. I mean, look dude, just I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, you don't have y'all don't have the best track record with like, you know, you mean the family? Yeah. I don't want to say that. But yeah, I mean, yeah, I shouldn't have said it like that, but you know, it's like Is it more scary? I can't but you can't live in fear. What are you gonna do? I'm not gonna live in fear. Yeah Yeah, it is what it is and you know, but but the white house should definitely be giving me Secret service. Can you say your receipt and if you get in there can you get reimbursed or not? What can you know? Yeah, and I think that's what they're up to that they want to you know bleed me You're received and if you get in there, can you get reimbursed or not? What? No. Yeah. And I think that's what they're up to that they want to, you know, bleed me white essentially,

you know, from money perspective. But I'm the first candidate in history that has requested secret service protection. They haven't given to, but do they give it to you this early? Because I read somewhere that here is what because the press has been dishonest about this. You're entitled to it. They have to give it to you 120 days out from the before the general election. If what? What circumstances? They all candidates 120 days out. Well, you have to have a certain polling number, but I'm surpassed all the thresholds by far.

Okay. So, but like my uncle Teddy was given Secret Service Protection 551 days out, but he was also a poly, he was like a lifelong politician. Oh, he was a politician, but he wasn't even running for president. He was talking even running for president. He was talking about running for president against a president in his own party like me.

He's my Carter, but Carter said you better protect him right away. And even though he officially declared the Him Secret Service Protection Obama got it 450 days out John McCain got it four or five hundred days out I'm I think I'm like 300 days out now Jesse Jackson got it surely Chism you go down there's probably 30 of them all gotten it long before the 120 days, okay, and I get you know, I mean, I we gave them a 68 page Yeah, I'm a reading about that. Yeah, why you should have it? Yeah Because I get death threats all the time and you know, I had a male ill person Break into my house a month ago and make it to the second floor

No, are you at your house? Yeah. So my God. You know, I mean, so I, they should, you would think that the president would, uh, yeah, don't, if you know Biden, can't you just like ask him? Well, we're not talking terms to the moment. Okay.

Damn, that's a bummer. Yeah, because you think you'd be able to hit him up and be like, Joey, you know? Yeah. I'll trade you an ice cream for a couple of front door goons, you know? I'm saying, couple of sharp shooters, dude. I bet you trade, you send him a box of mint chocolate chip, but you get whatever you want.

You think, yeah, it could be, I mean, you know, I think every man loves to have a dessert. Um, do you think that Donald Trump will legally be allowed to run in the election? Yeah, I don't think that can stop from running. Even if he was in jail, he's still entitled to run because there's only, you know, the Constitution, the Constitution says there's only three things that you gotta do to be, you have to be a citizen, you have to be born here and you have to be over 35 years of age. Okay. And that's it. You can be a president. There's no way to block somebody because

they got convicted. You know, it's in the Constitution. What the criteria is for being president. Yeah. It's funny because I feel like some people like Trump because they, he just wasn't a politician, you know, he could have been anybody, he could have been a fraggle, he could have been a, a, a, mind. I think some people just want anything that's not, they just, something has to change. They feel like, at the very least, I'll vote for something that's not a politician.

I just feel like people start to feel like this, the overall system is so corrupt, you know. And I think that's something that's been kind of harrowing just to voters overall. People start to feel like the overall system is so corrupt. I think that's something that's been kind of harrowing just to voters overall. People are suffering in this country now. I said before, with housing, the American promised, the American dream was that this promised that if you worked hard, you play by the rules, you can afford a house, you could have a sonification, you could take your family, and you could put

money aside for retirement with one job. And you know, my kids, you know, I have seven kids, you know, six of them are in that 2030 range. And none of them and none of their friends are looking for a house because it's so out of reach. And you know, you have a whole generation of kids who now are struggling with college debts that are what they pay for college seven times when I paid they're never going to pay off that college ed and they're never going to own a home for most of these kids and it's like like you know the American dream is gone right and so they did what if you have an American dream then what do you have you know that's I think that's the reason they said that's one of the reasons that people are so angry at both Republicans and Democrats

because there's a level of disintegration in this country and deterioration. I mean, I you know, I do I talk and I'm talking to a lot of people because of my job, you know, I represent a thousand families in Colombianna County, Ohio for the North Africa Southern spill. Oh, yeah I'm trying. And you know, all of these environmental cases, I end up talking to people at every level of society. And I see the desperation that people are living in.

It's like, you know, elderly people now are splitting their prescriptions, their drug prescriptions, cutting pills in two to make them stretch out the weeks so they can buy food. There's the young couples who have a crying baby who have to wonder whether the baby is $50 sick or $100 sick or $1,500 sick before they bring them to a hospital. Yeah, there's people your age and my kids age who are choosing between gasoline and food. And you know, it's a 57% of people in this kind of like kids age who are choosing between gasoline and food.

And you know, it's a 57% of the people in this country cannot put their hands on a thousand dollars if they haven't emergency. Or somebody like that, if the engine light goes on in the car, it's the apocalypse, yeah. Cause they know they can't afford that mechanic. They know, okay, now I can't get to work. I'm gonna lose my job.

Then I'm gonna lose my house and then I'm gonna be like all those people in San Francisco who were just regular, you know, Joes. Yeah. And they didn't know or drug addicts. They weren't mellow. You know, they just had a string of bad luck. They're the engine light went on their car and they weren't mellow. They just ended up string a bad lock. The engine light went on their car

and they couldn't find the mechanic. That's what I feel like. I feel like the engine lights on in this country. That's what I feel like. Well, you know when you're driving around with your engine on empty. Oh, yeah, yeah. And you, yeah, right.

And you can't think of anything else because you're thinking, am I going to be able to get that gas to, And it literally makes you stupid. It makes you lose IQ because that's all you can think about. And now put two kids in the back of your car, you know, to learn a baby seat and other kid. And you're now magnifying that anxiety. And now you're driving through a bad neighborhood and you're starting to think

of all of the bad things that, well, that's what it's like living paycheck to paycheck and that's what Americans are doing and it's like most Americans wake up every day and with that sense of impending doom and they're it's like they're driving around empty they don't know it's going to happen and they're desperate and they and nobody is listening to them. The politicians aren't listening to them for the Republican or the Democrats. And Donald Trump comes along and says, I'm gonna break things and they love him.

And I get it, you know, and a Democrats can understand why are all these people liking Donald Trump? That's the reason. Yeah. Because you're not listening to him. Yeah, I think in people wanting anything, I'd have voted for I'd vote for a literally a puppet I'd vote for Grover. I'd vote for anything that wasn't a politician You know that wasn't a career politician because I'm just so over it and you see these shows like pain killer and like

That one on Hulu to the one that I can't Wanted about the S I can't Yeah, what is it called the one about the Sacklers yeah, yeah I'm proud of you Farma if that show Did it ruin your faith in taking care of people in this country? It's unfaithful real man. I hate to use that language, but it made me so mad bro Yeah, it just made me so mad how compromised we are. How it feels, you know? Because if we're not even out here caring about each other,

then what are we even doing, you know? That's what it starts to feel like. It's like, if we're not out here trying to do something, like, then what are we doing? We're just, then what, you know? I'm just out here to have a nice car. It's just, I don't know, man. Yeah, it's about, is it about,

we're just here to make a big pile for ourselves and who ever dies with most stuff wins. Yeah, but we are proven that there's no value in it. It's like it's been proven over and over again that there's no value in it. Yeah. When you come across people like that, right, on your campaign trail, and you, like, what do you offer them? What like, what do you offer them? What type of hope do you offer them?

Well, you know, I think that's why I have, because I mean, I have specific things that I'm going to do. Right. Well, I mean, like with housing, what I want other things I'm going to do is I'm going to make a 3% mortgage available to every American for single family home. So, if you, right now, you're going to pay seven or eight, and I'm going to cut that down. So, you're mortgage for the average home, $250,000 or $400,000, $1,000 a month, which people can afford.

And it's going to allow you to compete and your kids to compete with BlackRock. I'm going to change the tax code to make it more difficult for them to buy up all the single-family homes, which is not good for democracy, not good for our country. You know, if you have a rich uncle, you can get a, who will coast on your mortgage, you can get a much cheaper mortgage, right? Because the bank is looking at his credit rating, you know, his perfect credit rating rather than your, so the genaptism kind of. Oh, you know, there, and what I'm going to do is I'm going to give everybody a rich uncle, which is Uncle Sam.

I'm going to get a, the US government to coast on your mortgage. Now, if you default and the government owns your house, no foul, no loss. But it's going to allow you to stay in that house. And I'm going to give the first half, milk, 500,000 to teachers, because we need to start supporting the teachers in this country. But to make them available to all Americans

who want a single family home, Because we need widespread homeownership. Thomas Jefferson said, American democracy can only survive if it's based on tens of thousands of independent freeholds owned by individual Americans. And, you know, not big corporations. They aristocratic, the feudal model, where the billionaires on the landscapes and we all are, you know, we're no longer citizens, we're now, you know, we're now subjects, we're not, you know, we're surfs on our own country.

Yeah, that's what it feels like. It feels like we're subjects in the lords won't even tell us who they are. Yeah, exactly. That's the sickest part. At least show your fucking face, you know. At least let me know who's, you know, it's like, that's what it feels like a lot of times.

Um, I know you went and visited the border. We had a border patrol security. Uh, we had a gentleman on here who was the head of the border patrol. Oh, Chris, Clam. No, this guy, he had retired, uh, Roy Villarreal. Okay. He came on here. This is two years ago.

And he was talking about one of the biggest issues that he was noticing at the border This was an Arizona that was his jurisdiction was that They people were getting the the legislative branches weren't working well So like they would arrest people but they weren't prosecuting them So they would get just the same people back over and over again, so it seemed like such a goose chase Well, it's got a hundred times worse now. Wow. Because now that people are just, I mean, I was there between two and four a.m. in the morning, I watched 300 people just walk across and then the board of patrol brings them

to the airport and, you know, they brought, they fingerprint them at their criminal, then they go into a different, you know, line. But the rest of them are brought to the U.M. airport. Even a ticket to any place they want to go on the United States. And we pay for it if they don't have the money for it. And you know, they've 110,000 planted in New York. And this is humanitarian crisis. I talk to the people who are coming over. They've been exploited, extorted, beaten.

What's happened is the, the whole thing's run by the Mexican drug cartel. We saw the buses, they have white buses, the cartel ons, 55 people in bus, they pick them up in Mexicale and they bring them to the border and they let them out. The people who come out are from every kind,

they're not, you know, they're from all over. And if they pay the cartels, they're from Asia. Right, they have to pay the cartels to get through their land. 50, well, right, but they pay them usually up front, 10 to $15,000 to get them across the United States. And the cartels are advertising all over the world. And they're advertising on YouTube. TikTok, you're telling you exactly what's gonna happen to you.

It comes across, and then what happens is they're given by the Border Patrol, the Border, there's nine Border Patrol committed suicide because what they're being asked to do is not their job. They're just escorting people, seven million people have come across illegally in three years, and legal immigration during that period was 3.1. So the cartels are literally controlling our immigration policy. And we have a video that I made on 18-minute video that shows what happened. But you were only down there for what? How long were you down there for? I was there for three days.

And then we've been dealing, we've made the film, I've been writing a lot And then, you know, and then we've been dealing, you know, we made the film, we, you know, I've been writing a lot about it, researching it, and it can totally be, be, shut down overnight. They're not. And what happens is people think, well, there's a big, almost people are watching. But I just want to, is that a long enough time to go see it, like three days is it a real life? I? Three intense days of, first of all, the first night watching all these people come and then spending the next days with local law enforcement, local sheriffs department, the ICE,

the board of patrol, all the local medical systems, the doctors and doing, you know, and the interview, no it's good. It's good to talk with those people. That's why we wanted the guy, because we kept here in the border, but it becomes like it gets like, becomes like this political like red rover

that the different parties use and you never know what's going on. That's why we wanted a border patrol agent into we could really see what happens. There's a guy called Chris Clem, who was the head of the border patrol in Yuma. And he's fantastic and he's giving us advice. But you know what happens is a lot of the Democrats think,

oh, we're being kind to these people by letting them in, but then we're not. In fact, what happens is they're given a court date for seven years in the future to go to the asylum court. So they have seven years in this country with they have no legal status. So they're not allowed to work. So they work for five or six, you know, you

have unscrupulous employers, you come five or six bucks an hour. And then, you know, they're employed on construction sites in New York. The employee, the construction company that's employing them is competing for bids against the union labor company. And he can use it. He's got a saying. Because he spends six bucks an hour. Right. So, but just as guilty as the people who are undermining the system, as they are of undermining the system,

people can have their own like a social beliefs about it, but there is guilt of undermining what the system is. That's in place. But the people that pay them to work are also guilty, right? If they're... Yeah, I mean, what I, you know, what I, here's what I would do.

And first of all, you need to hire a thousand asylum judges and you need to adjudicate before people come in. Once they come in there, entitled to say, they get a court date, put them right on the border like judge you. and they get you to get right there and and and then it will shut down the border and but most of the people 99% of the people we interview didn't even have an asylum claim they just said I'm here to work right I want a job right and so they you know they

are not inside they have to come through the regular line like everybody else legally yeah that's what's there is just doing it legally because you can't keep if you don't have accounting in not. They have to come through the regular line like everybody else legally. Yeah, that's what's fair is just doing it legally because you can't keep, if you don't have accounting in inventory of your business, then you're bound to go. Yeah, you know, I'll tell you how you shut it down overnight. And this is what I'm going to do the day I get off as I'm going to waive passport fees for all any American who can't afford it. Now what that means is if you can get a passport card, I don't know if you've seen, it looks like a license, right? It's a federal idea with your picture on it. And the problem is it costs $65 and there's some paperwork attached

that makes it difficult for very poor people to get them. And so there's a lot of people in our country who are poor, particularly in cities who don't drive cars. They don't have a driver's license. They have no government issued ID. Now, if you don't have a government issued ID, you're a second class citizen. You cannot open a bank account, which means you're using the paycheck, companies that take 10% of your social security check, the cash check, you can't get on an airplane, you can't stay at a hotel, you can't visit your kids

at school. And so what I'm going to do, there's 33,000 post office in this country, I'm going to make it very easy for any American citizen who can't afford it to go down to the local post office and get a passport ID. Once they do that, you now tell employers you cannot hire somebody unless they have that passport ID. I will shut down the border overnight because nobody's going to come through if they know they cannot get a job because now you're probably now you can prosecute employers right now what they do the employer construction firm in New York they're just they don't care for your legal or illegal they just want somebody who's cheap as possible and that they can check the box so they ask for Social Security card the Social Security card has no

picture on it they're easily fabricated and they're handed, you know, passed down from person to person. Oh, yeah, those things are nuts. Right. And so you can't put the employer in jail because he says, hey, I got a Social Security card, but now you're telling the employer the employer is illegal for the employer to do it. Right now you're saying you got to have a passport card or you're going to jail. Okay, that At that point, all illegal employment dries up overnight. Nobody is going to employ somebody with the risk of going to prison. And one other thing it'll do is that it will solve a lot of the anxieties that people have Republicans particularly about voting because they say, oh, you know,

these people are coming in and they're voting, people are voting without ID and they're double voting, they're committing voting fraud. Well now everybody has an ID and you can't have any of that kind of voting fraud. And the Democrats supported, I mean, the Democrats will support it, although Biden won't sign this bill, but, but, you. But the big civil rights leaders, like Andy Young, Al Sharpton, are all behind this idea. So we can solve all these problems and the anxieties that are made about the voting system and whether you need ID or not to vote. Right now, Democrats oppose ID laws, and the reason they oppose it is they say if you get if you force people to show an ID you're disenfranchising a lot of students who

don't have driver's license you're disenfranchising poor people who live in the city who don't have driver's license and there's other people in the country elderly people a lot of their license have laps so they don't have ID and you disenfranchise all of their license have laps, so they don't have an ID. And you disenfranchise all of those, those are all Democrats. So the Democrats say we shouldn't have ID loss. Now we've got civil rights leaders who say,

yeah, let's have IDs to vote, but let's give everybody an ID, so everybody can get one. Right, then nobody has an excuse. And nobody has an excuse. Yeah. What do you say to, so some people would say that that takes away some of the old like

adage and the old like a romantic idea of like you can come to American, you can make it here. Does that, does that do that by making the border? Because what are you doing making the border more organized? You're not saying there's no country in the world that has an insecure border. Yeah, I think we have to be able to control. A hundred comes in. Now, what I would do, I think we should have high fences, but wide gates.

We should let a lot of people in legally make it much easier to get citizenship and make sure that there's plenty of people to, you know, to, uh, to, for employers, et cetera, so that we can keep our country humming. Yeah. Right. And, but we should be able to select who comes through, not have the Mexican drug cartels. Select. I agree. It's a good point. No, it's, I mean, if this heartening, it's very scary to think that anybody can just come in, you know, I mean, I know that we're all here and we're blessed to be here. I just think it needs to be organized. Remember when Reagan had that plan that,

couldn't you sponsor people that were coming in? Well, you still can. You know, that people... That'd be awesome, bro. Well, you can still can do that. I mean, legally, 3.1 million people are coming across, and a lot of them are coming across unvisors that require them to have a sponsor because they're employment visas. Yeah. An employer says we need this guy. We need to bring them from

Uzbekistan. Let's bring in one head to all sponsor Hector to sponsor your family members submit a US citizen's citizenship and immigration services form 130 each person you sponsor needs a separate form 130. Huh. Let me ask you this. How long? We should sponsor one as a podcast. How long has your family been in this country?

Let me see. My father came over in 1922. I think from where? From Nicaragua and my mother. I don't know when she came. Probably, she's probably been here for like, on her 200, 150 years. So, and what, would like ethnic group is shape

Let me see Polish Italian and Nicaragua. That's what I am So she Nicaragua is that Hispanic or is it Indian or it's actually it's a good question It's it's a little bit of both. I think it's part Aztec. Maybe I got a check it The mosquito Andy answered out there. Are they? Oh, yeah, dude. That's probably me then. I got to see my but I remember my father's birth certificate. What have you ever done? Like 23 and me or anything like that? Yeah, I've done it. I don't know what they said. They email me so much. They're like, guess who's allergic to milk in your area? They're always sending like weird emails now, you know? Yeah, I know. And I don't email me so much. They're like, guess who's allergic to milk in your area? They're always sending me like weird emails now, you know? Yeah, I know, and I don't trust them really.

Yeah, so that's how they do. And then I thought we could hold my stuff. Yeah, guess who hates cinnamon rolls on your street, you know? They're like, what? What is this matter? Is it a cousin or not? I went hiking this morning with Tozie Gabbard. You went hiking with her?

Yeah, I was asking her about her, you know, her ethnic background. And she said she did 23. She actually did a, there's a TV show where they, they, they investigate your background. Oh, yeah, they do it with celebrities. I thought I think very more was on it. Yeah, and she did that. As Knai said, that she had the most ethnically diverse background that they'd ever run into. Wow. She is a part Samoan. She's Polynesia.

Yeah, I like that. Yeah. That's fantastic. But then she's got everything else. You know, she's got the whole, like every country in Europe. I wish I could be Samoan. I wish I could be Mexican sometimes. Maybe next life, you know.

What will keep you, say you get an office, Bobby, right? Like what keeps you, right? A guy that is trying to do it his way. How do you get sabotage? How do guys get sabotage once they get an office? Like how do people get, like their values and their goals and stuff get Common deared and stuff well a lot of people you know that happens to them but um

I you know I've been fighting corporations for 40 years and I've been suing these agencies the probably 20% I've sued almost every one of these agencies DOT USDA Department of Agriculture EPA EPA, NIH, FDA, DTS, to her. I feel like I know better than anybody else about how to unravel the corporate capture. And I'm not interested in anything. They got nothing they can offer me. The only thing I'm concerned with is good government and making sure that our kids love America the way that I love and have hope for their future.

I mean, literally, I can't think of anything than anybody could give me to buy me off. There's nothing I want. I have everything that I want. I want to do the right thing. And I think there's other people. I think Tulsi is the same way. I don't think she has any personal ambition. I think she loves our country.

And I think there's other politicians out there who can't be bought, but most of them can. Do you stay with the dem, and in fact, the entire political process has been bought. I'm running to office, is it training school for teaching you how to get bought? Yeah. So it's what it seems like. It's like where the fucking warriors who want to die like for something that means something.

Yeah. You know, I'm with you. I don't know. I mean, I guess I don't know. We all get. It's hard to, we live in a place where that's what we've built. It's part of that things can be compromised. The last question I have is, where do, how do you know if you are going to stay running

with the Democratic Party if you have to make another choice? Well, I have to make that choice by October 15th. Okay. So I'm just gonna see what they do if they open up the process all stay in and then you know, and then I have to see what I Have to see if they don't close it and I don't know exactly what I'll do. I'm proud of you, man. I'm just excited to know you have always been You've always just been a nice guy many you've always been Someone I can rely on and so I just appreciate you just being willing to come back on and spend time with us and help us learn about The election process and stuff. I think even if listening you helps us, you know a lot of people like me just learn who aren't as up to you know skew on politics and who aren't as up to, you know, skew on politics. And, um, yeah, man, certainly happy to get to spend time with you.

And congratulations, man. I'm proud of you. Yeah. Thanks for having back. Yeah. It's always a pleasure. It's always a pleasure being with you. Yeah. Thanks, Bobby. I'll talk to you soon. Now I'm just falling on the breeze.

And I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be Cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of mind I found I can't see it in my bones But it's gonna take you