This Past Weekend - E488 Nick Kyrgios

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Starting point is 00:01:02 I've got some new tour dates to tell you about. I'll be in Halifax, Nova Scotia on August 11th at the Great Outdoors Comedy Festival. Get your tickets early starting Wednesday, March 13th at 10 a.m. local time with presale code RATKING. General on sale starts Friday, March 15th at 10 a.m. local time. We thank you so much for the support. We also have tickets remaining in Atlanta, Georgia and St. Louis, Missouri. Those shows are in April. Get all your tickets through thetheovon.com slash T-O-U-R. Today's guest is that tennis bad boy. Love, love, baby. We'll see about it. He is a professional tennis man and he's a commentator. He was a finalist at the 2022 Wimbledon.

Starting point is 00:01:53 He has his own podcast called Good Trouble. Very excited to sit down with one of Australia's most unique personalities. Today's guest is Nick Kirgios. And I will find a song I've been singing I'm off the stage Thank you guys for coming man. Yeah Nick Curios. Yep Curios. That was pretty good. And you have a new podcast of your own. Yeah, it's called Good Trouble. Good Trouble, yeah. Just had Gary V on, Jay Shetty, had a couple cool people. Gordon Ramsay.

Starting point is 00:02:49 I thought about what about Bi Curious would be a name. Bi Curious, yeah. Look, there was definitely a lot of spin off of names. Was there? Yeah, but Good Trouble. Being Curious? Yeah, Being Curious, yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think of a different one.

Starting point is 00:03:02 Hey, Curious. That's kind of Italian, but. Yeah, that's fine. Dude, thanks for hanging out with me, man. Thank you guys for welcoming me into your country. It feels like my biggest audiences are here. Really? Yeah. All my mates, we like what you bring. Thanks, man. Definitely.

Starting point is 00:03:22 What's it been like for you recently? I know you kind of have had like a little bit of a break from playing tennis, right? Yeah, I've had two surgeries now in the last year. Had my left knee, had a right wrist surgery as well. So just trying to get back healthy, man. I had best year of my career. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:37 Finals of Wimbledon, love and life. And then a couple injuries, but it's good, man. I like being back in Australia, because if I'm healthy, I'm traveling like eight months a year away from family and friends. Just for tennis, it takes that much of commitment? Yeah, well, there's tournaments every week. You play every week in different places, different countries.

Starting point is 00:03:55 So I'm pretty happy, like not to be injured, but to spend some time with the families. Yeah. Is it dangerous? Like I would be scared because comfort gets kind of dangerous, you know Yep, like you're comfortable or you have just a even just getting to go to the like the things I miss when I'm away from home It's even just getting to go to the gym with my mates like little things like that It's like that would keep me from going and doing

Starting point is 00:04:20 Some dates sometimes some shows. It's like I just want to have this. No, yeah. Does that kind of shit start to like war your brain at all? Like. Yeah, well that's what I was missing. Like for 10 years, I was traveling week in, week out. I missed just waking up in my own bed, like spending time with my dogs, all my friends, like going to the cafe.

Starting point is 00:04:40 And I guess I'm getting that now, which is good. Like I'm definitely spending more time in Australia. I'm busy though, like you know how it is even when you're back home You're trying to you know have meetings or be busy and stuff. But yeah, look I I don't mind just being from Canberra and chilling in Sydney a little bit Yeah in tennis because I don't know a ton about tennis. I used to live with some people and they played it a lot Yeah, and they had a little bit of money. They would drink wine and like eat like a lot of um Charcuterie and stuff. Yeah, but they would do tennis during the daytime, you know, and the skirts, I like

Starting point is 00:05:08 the skirts on the women and um, but outside of that, I never knew a ton about it, you know, is it like, cause you've gotten to be at a level in it. That's that's really impressive, right? When you get to certain levels, you get to see what the next shelf is like, or what that, you know, you get a better look at certain things, right? Do you see that there's like a thing that makes some people get to an elite level?

Starting point is 00:05:33 Like, is it extra training? Is it commitment? Is it just nature? Like, is it just that some people just have it? Like, I'm just curious about like, what can you see once you get to your level that separates the elites? And I'm not saying you're not an elite player. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:05:56 I was about to just go where you're going. I'm probably really good. I'm elite. But then what separates me from someone say Novak Djokovic or you know, Rafa, like the greatest of all time. Like for me, I was partying a lot when I was playing. Like I would play, then go to the pub. And I wouldn't, I don't regret it. Like I love the fact that like my agents or my team had to drag me out of places at like

Starting point is 00:06:17 4 a.m. Like I love that shit. But at the same time, like that was what separated me, I guess, from them. Like they were so diligent, so consistent. Like now I'm a lot better but obviously when I was a bit younger but the the consistency that they've shown over decades is why I like they're having way more success than I have. Is some of it nature do you think do some guys just have a different element like a different gear that God gave them or do you think that it's like a commitment thing?

Starting point is 00:06:45 Because I'm just curious because tennis is such a solo sport. It's like golf. It's like, I mean there's no team really. It's just fucking you out there. Yeah, I mean I played my longest match is four hours and 52 minutes. Oh my god. And I was having some serious conversations. That's like watching Oppenheimer but having to play the whole time. Yeah, you have some serious conversations. That's like watching Oppenheimer, but having to play the whole time. Yeah, it's, you have some mental, serious, some serious mental conversations with yourself.

Starting point is 00:07:08 But I mean. Yeah, I bet, dude. Jesus. Like, and then you have like, you gotta do that again for seven days straight to win a tournament, basically. No way. Is that true?

Starting point is 00:07:18 That's like a grand slam, yeah. That's like how hard it is mentally, I mean. But the consistency, like for instance, my nature, I wasn't willing to give, like for instance, my nature, I wasn't willing to give up like the fun aspect of things whilst I was playing. Where like, if I did that, definitely, I probably would have had more success,

Starting point is 00:07:32 but I've had so much fun in my career. Like those are the memories, I'm sure you, I can't talk about them here, but like those are the memories you take to the grave. And then that's like, I wouldn't trade that for Grand Slam. There's no way. But that's the trade off. Yeah, you're kind of like John Daly. Have you ever heard of him a little bit? Yeah, I wouldn't trade that for Grand Slam. There's no way. But that's the trade off. Yeah, you're kind of like John Daly.

Starting point is 00:07:47 Have you ever heard of him a little bit? Yeah, I've heard of him, yeah. You're like kind of like that. Or John Knightley maybe, because I think he partied during the daytime more because he would, yeah, he would, that guy's still partying. I've seen him, I live in Nashville, Tennessee. I've seen him get a couple of times in ambulances,

Starting point is 00:08:01 his Uber basically. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. That's a lot, yeah. Oh, his Uber basically. And he's coming. That's pretty crazy. That's a lot. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I've seen him, the ambulance guy called and there was some confusion as to where he was like on the premises. And he went and got in the shotgun of the ambulance.

Starting point is 00:08:17 He went and got in the passenger seat and just waited. He's like, what the fuck is taking you guys so long? Take me to the fucking hospital. Yeah, just take me to the hospital. He's sitting in there. Gee whiz. And they're just running around with like a little, I'm not sure what it's called. What the fuck is taking you guys so long? Yeah, just taking me to the hall. He's sitting in there. And they're just running around with like a little, uh, I'm not sure what it's called. Um,

Starting point is 00:08:30 What's some of like, and I'm not going to just grill you about tennis because I don't know a ton about it. But I do want to get like some thoughts that I had. Like, what are some things like, because football you kind of know what the physical aspect is and like the training. What is shit that people don't know that like, like tennis training, like? Well. What is shit that people don't know that like like tennis training like

Starting point is 00:08:48 Well tennis is a tough one because you don't know when you're gonna play exactly like when the schedule comes out like for instance soccer or football or NBA or like you have an exact time when you know where the game is gonna start and the duration of how long the game Goes for where tennis is you don't know what time you're gonna play where it could be at night Could be first match at 10 a.m., could be at 7 p.m., and then it could go for an hour and a half to five hours. So it's like, how do you train for something with so many different intangibles and variables?

Starting point is 00:09:15 That's always been a big challenge for every tennis player. It's like, you train for something that you don't even know what's coming, and there's no teammates, you're out there on your own. And I think that's why tennis players, for me, what's coming and there's no teammates. You're out there on your own. And I think that's why tennis players for me, this is one of the toughest sports in the world because we're going, one week we're in Asia, one week we're in Europe, in the States for maybe a month,

Starting point is 00:09:35 then Australia, it's like different diet, different food, different time zones. And it's like you gotta adapt and have that adaptability to be good. And that's tough because most other professional athletes like set in stone preparation, food, sleep. That's what in tennis is like. You just have to just go with the flow. Dude, I always really struggle with it. I think.

Starting point is 00:09:54 Yeah, there's like no routine really. You have to try and find. Yeah, it's hard. Oh my god. That's why I've lost my marbles. Definitely. Yeah. Oh, I can't even imagine. Yeah, I mean and from Australia as well, It's worse. We have like two tournaments a year So the rest of it's just traveling around for living out of a hotel. Oh To live at a yeah, cuz it's hard enough for me like and I guess I'd sound like I'm complaining I don't it doesn't sound like we're complaining. No, it's it's it's definitely a nice lifestyle

Starting point is 00:10:21 like writing about cultures and meeting new people and traveling to the coolest but it's's not like, Oh, I think a lot of people think when I'm traveling, I'm like enjoying going sightseeing. Like I'm working, like, you know, I'm playing, I'm training, I'm going to bed. Like, it's hard. It's not easy. Yeah. I mean, last night, like I get off stage and I know that I have to do this today. Right?

Starting point is 00:10:40 I know that I have to edit like a previous episode and look over it, you know, so I'm up for two till probably at two, I went to sleep and and not complaining. It was cool But it's not like yeah, you get to get out. It's gonna walk in a park, right? Yeah And yeah, there's some like Dame that's hitting you up She wants to hang out but you're like, I know I have to do what I gotta do It's gonna be you know Multitasking. Yeah, I'm gonna save this frickin frickin you know I'm gonna save my nuts for curious you know nothing not in a gay way but I'm just gonna save my energy I'll look after them dude also uh the food is totally

Starting point is 00:11:18 different here like the food is totally different the eggs are different dude if you get to a country and the eggs are different, that can throw me off for a fucking week. Wait, do you like the eggs here? Like the cafes are good here. Are you a breakfast guy or a dinner guy? I'm a breakfast guy. There's good cafes here. You like coffee? I like some of it. Sometimes it kind of fucking, I'll get a little bit weird on it, but I got to monitor how much I drink. So I'm doing green tea right now. There's a lot of caffeine in that too though.

Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah, I make sure I get the low caffeine one. But yeah, I feel you, because some of that shit, yeah. Australian coffee is good though. Is it? Yeah, very good. I'll give you a list of good cafes you should go to after. Yeah, all right. You're leaving on Tuesday, right?

Starting point is 00:11:59 Yeah. Definitely some good cafes you gotta go to. I don't know, you probably can't go out in here in public, can you? It's not bad. It's got, this is like, I never realized it really until this time that this is my biggest audience. You know, it's like years ago when I came,

Starting point is 00:12:14 my biggest show ever was here, like just of numbers of people coming. And then this time it's been like that. And I'm like, wow, this is really. Must feel good. It's crazy. But I just kind of forget that. Then I get here and I'm like wow this is really must feel good. It's in it's it's crazy But I just kind of forget that then I get here, and I'm like oh wow so many people say hello, and it's nice We are friendly people. Oh, dude

Starting point is 00:12:33 too friendly people are just They're so fucking friendly almost one of them to fucking stab you or something you're like you can't handle it Not much of that like just rob me or something at least you know I'm saying But you just want to feel at home you want to feel like you're back in the States You know yeah, I don't know I can't relate to that. I do have a lot of friends in the States But it's so nice here, dude. Yeah, it's not having just a constant threat of crime or murder. Yeah, yeah big time It's just so relaxing um Yeah, I was thinking about that like

Starting point is 00:13:08 I Um, yeah, I was thinking about that like, um, I wasn't thinking about anything really, I guess. But, um, what else is going on, you think? I mean, I gotta do another podcast after this. Nuh-uh. Yeah. Do you really? Yeah. Your own?

Starting point is 00:13:23 No, not my own. Just I'm jumping on a mate's one. Oh Oh wow. It can be a lot sometimes, huh? Yeah, I mean trying to juggle around I gotta somehow find some time to train as well. Gotta keep the missus entertained Oh, you got a wife. Oh, no, she's not my wife, but she's my partner. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah She needs attention. She does. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and what do you like to do with their lady? You guys go Kayaking or what do you like to do with their lady? You guys go kayaking or what do you guys do? No, look, I'm not like, I'm Australian, but I'm not like a true blue Aussie in the sense like I do like crazy Australian stuff. Like I'll probably, I'll get dinner tonight with her. I'll try. I don't really want to drink any wine because then if I have one, I'll have two.

Starting point is 00:13:58 Then I'll probably go out. I don't want to do that because I don't feel like shit tomorrow morning. Yeah. What about you? What about you? What are you doing tonight? What will we do? We got a show and then the show starts an hour early so we might be able to, we might do something after. If you, the only reason, if I will go out tonight, if I'm going out with you, then I'll come.

Starting point is 00:14:16 Wow. That's the, I'm gonna give that deal to my miss so if the other one wants to go out, I don't care what else is on the schedule. We're clearing it. Dear Christ then. We'll tell the miss to put on her heels then. Alright, I'm down. She got no excuse then. Yeah, dude.

Starting point is 00:14:34 So if your tour starts back up for tennis, how do you jump back into tennis? Can you just go back in at a certain point or do you have to wait until a season starts? What's it like? So basically there's a ranking system. So by me not playing for the last like a year and a half because of injury, I lost my ranking, but I have like a protected ranking of like 20. Okay. So I can come back at pretty much any point in time when I'm healthy.

Starting point is 00:14:57 And I just slop back in basically. Is it scary to be like, all right, I'm ready to go. And that seems fucking big time because for me as a player, like there's obviously a lot of eyes because I'm very like controversial and stuff. So every- Because you're almost black a little, I think. Yeah, maybe in a very white privileged sport like tennis. Oh, people see a guy with a,

Starting point is 00:15:15 people see a guy that's been in the sun for a half hour and they're like, oh, look at this brother trying to cause trouble. Yeah, there is a bit of that. There is a bit of that. But yeah, so I guess when I'm playing, it's like, oh, he's coming back and there's a lot of pressure on it. So I need to make sure that when I'm ready to go, then you're ready for all that. Exactly. Because it's like I can't fly. I don't fly underneath the radar, which would be nice sometimes.

Starting point is 00:15:34 Yeah, it's like, what is he going to do now? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Is he going to chew gum during this match or what? God forbid I do that. Are you allowed to do that? Yeah, you can do that. Yeah. I mean, I've done it. Yeah. But like, yeah, you're right. Like I walk differently on the court and people are like. Look at this deviant.

Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Gang member. Yeah, literally. I should show you some articles after this. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. Oh, dude.

Starting point is 00:15:59 Is there any good moments where people yell shit at tennis? Because it's such a refined. Like if you want to get a good like, it's probably, it's frowned upon, right? Cause it feels very organized out there. Yeah. Wimbledon, like you can't say a thing. Like it's very, like you can hear the Royal family's there. Like I was cussing in front of the Royal family, which was funny. Like it was good.

Starting point is 00:16:18 Gave him, gave him a show, but US opened so loud. New York's crazy. Um, but people don't really, I mean, now people are screaming out a lot. Like, really? Yeah, and like, I mean, I told, like, there was a time at, like, in Cali when I was playing and Ben Stiller was in the crowd

Starting point is 00:16:35 and one of his friends was like telling me how to play. And I was like, I was like, bro, are you good at tennis? Like, why are you speaking? And then I said to Ben, I was like, do I tell him how to act? Like, no, like, I love Ben Stiller hilarious But people do scream out some pretty crazy shit racial stuff sometimes pretty really. Yeah, and you're not even are you no No, I'm half Malaysian half Greek. Oh god. Yeah, I am mixed

Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, but you'd have to have a damn calculator to get racist against somebody like you I feel like you got a you know I'm saying you got a really To have a chart or something yeah people are so diverse now You if you don't really to really be a good racist you have to have yeah You do your research yeah, you gotta at least be able to do some math almost I think that's why a lot of racism is disappearing because there's a barrier to entry now Because people are so mixed you know yeah What do you think about when you see some of these matches like they just said didn't they just have Jake Paul was gonna fight uh what do you think about that shit man it's fucking crazy isn't

Starting point is 00:17:34 it it's fucking dumb I think like well what are you expecting what do you think the outcome is gonna be well I think because I thought that Jake Paul would have lost by now even fighting these guys at some stage but he keeps winning like I know that they're not like in their prime or whatever But the whole background was fighting that's your point and he he keeps like somehow pulling it out Like if he pulls this one out, I don't care how old Mike Tyson gets I'm not even fighting that guy until it because I did he actually sat down on my show. He's fucking crazy Really? Yeah, like I felt I'm not fought even if he's seven years old. I'm not I'm not fighting You what he just felt like he had that danger in him. Yeah. Yeah, exactly

Starting point is 00:18:08 Well, I asked him what would you be if you weren't a boxer said a fucking criminal like stone cold my eyes I'm like Okay, nice. So yeah, if he pulls this one out, what do you think? Well, I think I mean well Jake fought like Nate Robinson, who was like, Yeah, Nate should never have taken that fight. Nate should not have. He's like tarnished his whole basketball career. Right.

Starting point is 00:18:30 It kind of. He was a Knicks legend. And it was just kind of like, oh, can Jake beat a black guy? That was kind of the ambiance of that when it felt like, and then people were shocked. But then he fought Woodley. Which is tough. Which is tougher, but Woodley has not been the same fighter he's been for years. And he hasn't been a good punch thrower. What about Diaz? I thought Diaz was gonna get the job done

Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, that's a good point and then and then Silva like I thought these guys are like some of the greatest UFC fighters of all Time like especially Silva right I mean he picked great names, but then now he's kind of gone into boxing He fought Fury. Yeah, he lost that okay. He lost that one right he lost. Oh, yeah, that's right He lost to Tommy Fury, and I think's right. He lost to Tommy Fury. And I think Tyson could be still a little bit better than... I would rather fight Fury than Mark Tyson. Yeah. I think. Well, I don't... I mean, they had that Tyson against Jones Jr. fight a few years ago, is that right?

Starting point is 00:19:16 And it was just them hugging basically. It was basically you paid $50 to watch two brothers hug. And, uh, which I would would do I believe in you know You know, I want all my black friends to do well and everything. I believe in the community in the culture, but it's like Actually, yeah, I would actually pay $50 to watch two brothers hug for an hour Like that would be a great pay-per-view, but they build it as a boxing match. Yeah Jones was gassed out early. What was Tyson gassed too? Yeah, uh, but they hugged so quick after any exchange it was hard to know. They didn't want to like force it or risk it.

Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, it almost seemed like it was like a, um... Does this hurt Tyson's legacy if he loses it? I don't think so. I think his shit is so locked in. Yeah, you think so? Now he's all, yeah, I think it is. Is it staged at all? Now that's the part I don't know. I don't know if Tyson's gonna agree to say,

Starting point is 00:20:10 hey, you can knock me out. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You know? And cause some of the weed can't even knock him out. Like dude, that dude is taking on, let's say this. Yes, he fought Leon Holmes or whatever, but he's also fought, you know, Purple Hooker 4.0 weed. You know what I'm saying or whatever the strains are, you know He gave me a box of it when I was in hell

Starting point is 00:20:31 Did he really? Gassed out monster or whatever. They keep coming up with different flavors, you know They got the E's too Kiwi prison and shit and you're like fuck dude, this shit is fucking hard dude Detroit for your lungs is a new flavor. I'm like Detroit for your lungs is a new flavor. I'm like, that's alarming. So I think if he can beat all of that. When is it?

Starting point is 00:20:52 When is the fight? Soon, no? Well, Jake had a fight the other day. He fought like a footlocker manager. Yeah, who what? Yeah. A footlocker manager. He basically fought a guy.

Starting point is 00:21:01 I'm not even joking. Nobody knew who this guy. I didn't know who he was yet. Even the guy's father was tweeting like, I didn't know my son was involved in this. Yeah, it's like yes Well, there's a good fight right now Joshua and in Ghana is on now. That's a good one Oh Anthony Joshua and Francis and God that's that's on right now. I think at this moment. Yep. Oh, wow many Joshua won Anthony Joshua. Wow surprised by that.. I thought Nganu was gonna win that. There's something so lovable about Nganu,

Starting point is 00:21:27 you watch him do anything. Yeah, that's true. He's a big man. Yeah. I would watch him eat a piece of birthday cake for one hour on pay-per-view. Yeah, he's a pretty good physique, I'm not gonna lie. And there's just something charming about him, you know?

Starting point is 00:21:40 Like, there's something about some players and athletes like that's one thing I do love about the UFC is that you can get to know some of the athletes right like you get because of the press conferences they give them and the interviews at the end of the fights and stuff you start to get a little bit of an idea of who they are. Who do you like? I'm a huge Poirier guy. Oh, yeah. He's fighting soon too, I saw. Yeah, yeah. He's fighting tomorrow.

Starting point is 00:22:12 And this will come out next week, so he will have just fought. But yeah, I love him. I love, I mean, the Diaz guys. I love the guys that I don't even like because you just get to know them. Like they're either the villains or they're you get to see their personalities online Sugar Sean he's fighting It's just so entertaining. There are a lot of characters on there. No, I'm thinking about it. Yeah But I think I think Jake Paul could really bang on him. It looks like I don't want it

Starting point is 00:22:39 I think it I think it hurts Tyson's legacy if he loses Like that's because no one really talks about who he fought back then. Now it's just like he did what he did and he achieved it. Now if he loses, it's gonna be everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good point, huh? Like when do you say, hey, I'm good with where? I'm sure he doesn't need the money.

Starting point is 00:22:58 And is he in the right mind? Who's signing that deal for him? I don't know, I don't know. I'm just gonna be watching. You know, he fought, who else did he fight? He fought damn Lester Douglas, he fought fucking 50 shades of cannabis. He's fought everybody, he's fought everything.

Starting point is 00:23:16 He's fought Delta 8, probably when it first came on the market, that guy fucking. You're fucked. No, I'm just saying, that guy, there's nothing. Yeah, yeah, he's been through a lot. He told me that he'd been through, I mean, he's obviously, he's been pretty open about it, but he said that he burnt the wick at both ends. He used to party crazy and fight.

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Starting point is 00:26:24 I don't know. It ended up being drugs. Oh, I know that. It was supposed to be work. And it was, but I ended up doing work and drugs. And then, yeah, the next night I had a show in Indianapolis and like, oh, it was horrible. I'd been getting like IVs all day and had to go on stage

Starting point is 00:26:39 and just felt kind of rattled, you know? That was miserable. What do you do now to just stay on the straight and narrow? Not that I just got off of vaping, so, but I'll have some fucking, what will I do? I'll have some fucking Pepsi Max, or I'll fucking slam a couple Coke Zero's and just, I don't know, squeeze my fucking penis sometimes.

Starting point is 00:27:01 I just, I don't try not to jerk off at night. Really? Yeah, because I think I have better dreams and like visions and stuff if I don't. So I'm trying, yeah, I'll just try to just, sometimes instead of masturbating, I'll just squeeze my wiener as hard as I can. Almost squeezing the devil back into my body. The fact that you say all of this, like that last two sentences with a completely straight face. I Believe you. Thanks, man. Yeah, I believe you. I believe me too, man I've I've just done it so many times because for me man if I'm

Starting point is 00:27:35 The devil comes out of my wiener. That's where I feel like if I had a really you know I'm saying if I start thinking about something I will fucking I Will tie my fucking penis to my foot and kick somebody's fucking neck open. That's how I feel. You're fucking crazy, bro. But that's how I feel, man, sometimes. But I think that's drugs also built up in my system,

Starting point is 00:27:55 you know? Possibly, yeah. Yeah, and I used to vape. I'm actually like, maybe 11 days off of vaping right now. Yeah, get off the vape. It's fucking horrible. It's killing children.

Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah, no, I don't like vaping. Oh dude, you see they had a, that vape shop blew up, you see that bitch? Finally somebody's infiltrating these places. Here's right here. What, did a vape like explode? Explosion at vaping warehouse, look at this. In Michigan, of course.

Starting point is 00:28:27 Any vape at any time can kind of fucking do that though. Look at them blasting off like fireworks. Like is it good that the same things- Is getting inhaled into people's lungs? Yeah, shit that's in fireworks. Would you take a firework over to it? Look at this. This looks like Gaza. Look at this.

Starting point is 00:28:43 This looks like Gaza. And look, there's some kids running up trying to get free vapes and shit. That's insane. They end up blowing and just catching the free ones. Oh, I'm sure there's some fucked hard, just four buildings down, just with his head out there. Just, yeah. Oh oh yeah that's cranberries I'm glad you're off that yeah thanks man it's so it and yesterday I had a moment

Starting point is 00:29:13 where somebody had one and I looked at it and then I didn't even think about it and it was the first time that my brain felt like oh thank God I'm not doing that yeah dude good it's horrible and also you're a fucking adult and you're vaping and people see you and you feel like it just a pedophile looks like it's for children You know Yeah, I mean so so you don't drink anything anymore. No alcohol at all. Mm-hmm. All right now because I'll buy drugs That's why yeah, okay. Did you ever get on your? If you ever drink much. Yes, really? Yeah, I still drink a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, I don't mind Yeah, if you're good at it fucking do it. Yeah do it until you can't do it. I'm glad I did that

Starting point is 00:29:51 Solidifies it. I'm never gonna ever touch a vape again. Well, yeah, you saw that imagine if somebody took a bottle rocket up to a Seventh grader. Yeah, and just lit one end and said hey bubs smoked it You know, it's like tiny like it seems to be safe It's got the same chemicals as a fucking fourth of July in it, you know nuts that's just damn alarming but Yeah, I think I'm sure there's probably people trying to get those vapes now like Explosion vapes that's the thing. They'll just mark it as like a new thing It'll be a new marketing tactic like come get these explode You know that's social media though. Yeah, somehow turn something like that into a positive. Yeah, it's pretty alarming

Starting point is 00:30:34 What else do you see can people you can't vape out on the court anybody ever smoke at halftime during y'all's games We don't have a time but no not like Look, I mean I've the closest thing to something pretty loose on a tennis court if you see someone drinking like a Coca-Cola like there was back in the old days I think people used to maybe like there was like a guy who played this actually one of this he played the Williams sisters because like there was a big thing between like can females and males like compete at the same level and then some guy ranked like 200 went out there with like

Starting point is 00:31:06 I think it's you can actually find on internet He was smoking a cigarette and having a beer while he played the Williams sisters and he beat them But like he was that was probably the last time someone ever smoked a cigarette on court. Wow. It was one verse two No, he verse Serena. I think Venus first and then Serena after so there is a difference in level between There's the masculine and feminine play usually. I mean, I believe so, yeah. I mean, but- Well, there's a genetic difference.

Starting point is 00:31:30 There's a- Yeah. We have two separate tours, yeah, big time. There's a scientific difference. There's also probably a difference in where your body can even move. I don't know what they are, but because I think women have a different

Starting point is 00:31:44 caussics or like a, I don't know what it's called hips or whatever you know I don't know I don't know man yeah but yeah we we play for we play like Grand Slam's we play best of five which can go for like five hours and if you play against a woman or people like do there's mixed doubles there's mixed doubles oh there is like I played I played with Venus you did like someone else yeah wow mixed doubles is fun I think mixed doubles. Oh, there is. Like I played with Venus. You did? Against like someone else, yeah. Wow. Mixed doubles was fun. I think mixed doubles is actually, should be played more because it's entertaining, right?

Starting point is 00:32:10 Like it's more fun seeing both sexes on the court at the same time, in my opinion. For the fans, like me, I never thought I'd play with Venus Williams. It's pretty cool. Yeah, wow. I went to Wimbledon one time. Did you?

Starting point is 00:32:24 Yeah, I was doing a comedy tour over there in England and we went to to Wimbledon one time. Did you? Yeah, I was doing a comedy tour over there in England and we went to damn Wimbledon. I remember walking up and being like. I don't fit in here at all. Well, I didn't know what we should do. I felt like you had to like, at least be able to play an instrument or something to get in, you know, I just felt.

Starting point is 00:32:39 Like just, yeah, just tick it, that's it. Yeah, I was like, damn, I don't know the violin or whatever, you know what I'm saying? It just seemed very, you know, and I remember saluting people at the game or whatever. And the guy was like, fuck you doing? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:32:51 Now Wimbledon, it's very proper. Yeah. That place hasn't changed in a hundred years. Does your sport feel too proper ever? For me, I mean, well, I just, I grew up loving basketball. Like I love NBA, watch it religiously. And when I played tennis, I always felt like I was a bit of an out, like a misfit, right? I didn up loving basketball. Like I love NBA, watch it religiously. And when I played tennis,

Starting point is 00:33:06 I always felt like I was a bit of an out, like a misfit, right? I didn't fit in well. So then when I was walking to places like Wimbledon, I was like, this place is, it's crazy. Like it's so against what I like. I was watching, I love watching basketball, entertainment, American sport for me in general,

Starting point is 00:33:20 is like where I fit in. I feel very at home in the States. Oh wow. So yeah, yeah, it's for me. It's like being at the library, I feel like. Yeah, that's what I mean. And I don't like, like my personality and the way I am is like not close to how like the traditional sport of tennis is.

Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah. Like, do you know what I mean? I'm not playing club at all. So it's like I've just been in an environment my whole life that I've kind of wanted to break out of. But that's the only thing I'm really fucking good at. But that's the only thing you're good at? Well, I'm good at other things,

Starting point is 00:33:48 but that's where we all have our- Right, your thing you do. Exactly. Oh yeah, I look at a musician. I went and watched a musician play that night. I'm like, God, we went and saw Fred again. Have you seen this guy DJ? No.

Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah, he's Fred again. And he was always Fred, I think, but he still is, right? And we saw him and he was always Fred I think but he still is right. Yep, and we saw him and it was great and And uh Yeah, I was like god. That's so awesome. Why didn't I try to do that? You know and then you have the instruments and the lights and it's a fucking party You know get out every night that would be tough. No, don't you think? Yeah to try and you got a match everyone's energy all night.

Starting point is 00:34:25 How'd you get into this? Has anyone ever asked you that? In a podcasting? Yeah, just like you. Like how did it all happen for you? Well. Because I feel like there was a time where Theovon didn't exist in my life,

Starting point is 00:34:38 and then now it's all I see is you. Yeah. So what was the journey like? Oh, that's interesting, man. Well, I done comedy for a long time right people forget sometimes I think I don't they forget they just don't know They don't know when you go on stage. You've been going on stage for 18 years Yeah, even if they only known you about you for four years for comedy is a tough gig, by the way, you know I think it's probably similar in some of the sense

Starting point is 00:35:01 I mean you guys I couldn't imagine having to do a four-hour set But at least you get to hit it to the other person and let them deal with it for a minute. Yeah, for a second, yeah. Yeah, just for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A mother, okay. Yeah, that's true. You really don't get much of a break. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:13 You're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then when I think social media really got crazy, you know, like, everything was going good with podcasting, that really helped. Cause we felt caged up by like the entertainment industry.

Starting point is 00:35:29 You know, it's the same people making the same choices. It's a very secular group, you know, over there. And it's like, and if you, they don't kind of pick you to be a person or something they see or they don't like some of your vision, then they don't push you forward. But if you tell me that, I'm gonna fucking find a way forward.

Starting point is 00:35:52 That's the only thing I've ever known is, I never wanna do shit your way anyway. So I don't even know what the fuck I was doing here pretending I was. That's the saddest part sometimes for me. But, you know, I don't say say that like, I don't know. I say that I think some of that's in hindsight at the time. Yeah, you, you want to go with, you want to try the,

Starting point is 00:36:14 the path that's there. I, yeah, I was going on podcasts and then I walked out of Joe Rogan's podcast one day and I was like, I just want to just have my own thing. Yep. just want to just have my own thing. Yep. I just want to have my own thing. And thank God that, you know, there was people like Mark Marin and Rogan.

Starting point is 00:36:34 There was a fighter in the kid, which was an early podcast with Brennan Schaub and Brian Callan. Like there was just these things, Pete Holmes. There was a lot of podcasts and it was like a thing. And I just started in my kitchen and then social media. Like other people made clips and that like got things like to a different place.

Starting point is 00:36:55 Like when people started taking stuff and making it. And then just putting it out there, yeah. Yeah, cause then you're- You're spreading. Yeah, you're spreading it, but you're not doing the spreading. Yeah. So, but it's kind of alarming too, because then you can't control the spread.

Starting point is 00:37:08 That's true. That's what I was gonna ask you, because I feel like today's day and age with what you say and stuff, but I feel like you don't filter anything, but you're still saying what you wanna say. Like a lot of people don't, I know that I can't say things.

Starting point is 00:37:18 Like sitting with you right now, I know that I could be as honest as anything, but if I said something slightly controversial, it would affect my career Drastically if you text it I'll yell it out See that's what I'm saying. That's what I I'm kind of jealous in that way because like oh, yeah I'm from Australia right and I'm already against the April like the media is always against me to create this reputation They're like I'm a bad guy. Whatever. Yeah, what'd you even do? You just wore high socks

Starting point is 00:37:45 But it's like I kind of envy the fact that you can be so honest. Oh, I see. Well, I think if you're already kind of leaning into some of this world with your own voice, because that's really what you're doing, I think, with podcasting. I think some people, we don't even realize it maybe, is that you're just trying to have your own voice, right? That's a part of it in our psyche, I think. And I don't say that from like a preachy point. I say it, I think, from a realization point, even for me just now.

Starting point is 00:38:10 It's like, oh, I just want to have my own voice. So I think if you want to have that, then it'll probably be something that you have down the line. Yep. You know, if you're having seeds of it come into your own existence now. Yeah. I feel like people are embracing it a little bit more, but still I would like to be a bit more honest. Yeah. One day you'll get more, but still I would like to be a bit more honest

Starting point is 00:38:25 about some things. One day you'll get to, man. I hope so. Yeah, because I guess it does feel caged up. Well, I think if you work within a network, you know, we had this guy, Trevor Bauer, on recently, and he's a pitcher, and he got maligned in the States for some sexual allegations, right?

Starting point is 00:38:41 And then he played in Japan and it came to be there was never any prosecution or anything. And one of the people pressing charges, or the main person pressing charges, it wasn't any validity there, it was dishonest. But he never really has gotten back on his feet for- Yeah, but the damage is probably done because- Right, the damage was done.

Starting point is 00:39:04 But also I think he had been somebody who kind of wanted to have their own voice in his sport. Like he had started, he has a YouTube platform and he would comment about things he didn't love about the sport as well. So I think that kind of, once you're within a bigger group you kind of have to work with the rules of the group, you know? So who does your stuff like all, so you do like your show, this podcast, and then you

Starting point is 00:39:30 go to your show tonight, like who do you answer to or do you just run on your own schedule? Yeah, we just run on our own schedule. But yeah, but, but I don't play professional sport if I also was playing within a, and then, you know, you probably, if you say something, then it comes the tennis, what's the overall tennis thing called? Major league tennis? It's just called ATP. Like the, yeah, that's all it is. ATP.

Starting point is 00:39:50 They would be like, what's going on? Yeah. Yeah. So it probably cages you up some. You definitely got to come when I'm coming back, you got to come and watch. Dude, that would be sick. Epic, bro. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:00 Cause the only one we could get into at Wimbledon, I think it was Wimbledon. It could have been a fucking high school match, but we,imbledon, I think it was Wimbledon, it could have been a fucking high school match, but we... It... somebody said it was Wimbledon. Did you even remember who played? It could have been the Kentucky Derby actually. What? When was it? When is Wimbledon?

Starting point is 00:40:15 Oh, July? I gotta look back and see. I gotta ask my friend. The fact that you don't even remember, that disappoints me. Yeah. Because my job is when people like, no, not tennis fans, they come and watch, they actually remember who the fuck's playing. Oh, wow. That's what I've been criticized for doing. They're like, oh, he's not even playing tennis the traditional way.

Starting point is 00:40:30 I'm like, Theo Von came to Wimbledon and doesn't even know he played. That should be like a message to the HDP right now. Like, we're doing a terrible job. Yeah. Do they do, is it this or that they have a tough time? Like I guess there's fear of like, if they start to individualize people too much over the sport, then it gives a lot more power to the players themselves. I don't know. I wonder what that's like. Yeah, like I mean, everyone knows who the players are who bring fans and why ticket sales get sold and all that type of stuff.

Starting point is 00:41:00 Like everyone knows that. Yeah. And the AGP likes to hide the fact that they think it's a lot of an equal thing, but it's not. Like the fact that there's a tennis player sitting in your podcast right now, like that's pretty cool. Yeah, I think it's cool, man. This is the first real tennis player I've ever talked to, except for my friend's dad, who ended up,

Starting point is 00:41:20 he was kind of an alcoholic to be honest with you, but he cheated on their mom, but he played tennis a lot in the mornings, I remember. And he would, I would catch him at nights when I was looking at porno on the computer, but he was a good, pretty good tennis player. I think he was like a three five or a four oh. Did you?

Starting point is 00:41:41 Is that good? What is that? Three five and a four oh? I don't know, they might've made it up. I don't-0? I don't know. He's they might have made it up I don't know what was going on. Have you played before? I gotta text my buddy. Uh Yeah, yeah, I've played man. Tennis is pretty big in the States Like obviously not as big as your main sports, but there's a lot of a lot of tennis fans out there When we were children, we had to play at school. Yeah, and it was you would see wow

Starting point is 00:42:02 Some people are very unathletic. And they- Yeah. That's like my thing with tennis. You get like the best athletes in the world. You put a tennis racket in their hand, they become uncoordinated. Really? Have you seen it happen? Yep. A lot of times, a lot of times I've seen some basketball players try and play. Some of our athletes in Australia try and play tennis. I think because it's non-contact, it's easy.

Starting point is 00:42:23 Oh, yeah. It's such a finesse game, huh? It's finesse, very technical, yeah. Yeah. What do you, like, and if you have a bathroom break, how long is that? Well, the rules, that's where it gets gray, because you can, like, if you need to take a number two, like take a shit, you can just be like,

Starting point is 00:42:40 I need to go straight away, and then like, like the umpire, it's all on the umpire's discretion. No way. So you have like a shit Colonel or whatever? And you just- Yeah, well like the umpire. Like an Admiral or whatever? Yeah, like an Admiral.

Starting point is 00:42:51 Yeah, like umpire. But like, yeah, if I need to go to the bathroom, I can go change of ends, but it's like for like 90 seconds. No. But then like, if I need to take like, then how do they know I could get sick? Like I could be sick or whatever. I hate having to pee real fast

Starting point is 00:43:03 because it burns a little too. I don't know if that's healthy, brother. Yeah, yeah, that's true. It might be a personal thing. It might be a healthy thing. Oh God, dude, I shouldn't have fucking said that. It doesn't burn all the time. But if you have to hurry and pee,

Starting point is 00:43:17 like sometimes if somebody's like hurry up and you're like fuck. You get stage fright. Yeah, oh yeah, you just have to pee so fast, yeah. If you get stage fright in front of yourself, then you're just a fucking weirdo I think I don't get that. Yeah, I get that dude But yeah, so you have to how do you do you do you give a guy a little bit of a signal that you have to Go to the loo or what? You just tell you if I ask him you just like I'll go to the bathroom your honor

Starting point is 00:43:39 Can I shit yeah basically you can't just like get subbed off and go to the bar Yeah, you have to like can I go to the bathroom or whatever? Oh my god So it's very much like the old days in the king. Yeah. Yeah, like the that. You can't just like get subbed off and go to the bathroom. Yeah, you have to be like, can I go to the bathroom or whatever. Oh my God. So it's very much like the old days in the king. Yeah, yeah. Like the game in my, it's a bit old school. Like it's not gonna be, if you look where sports going now and how entertaining

Starting point is 00:43:55 it is like, especially with all these misfit boxing matches, like all this type of stuff, like tennis, it's got some work to do. It would be cool if at certain points, like the net lit up or something, and there was like a spice round or something. There you go. You know? Yeah, but they like the way it is, but it needs to change.

Starting point is 00:44:13 How can it change though? That's what's interesting too is some sports you wonder if they just. If it like hit the ceiling almost. Yeah, like in a way. I mean, obviously competition will always Yep, I want people to be there. Hmm, but you wonder yeah, I never thought about that. Do some sports start to um Have they just had their time and existence like bocce ball. What is that? Yeah, what is it? Great question? I don't know, but I know at one point it was one of the top 11 sports in the whole world

Starting point is 00:44:43 When was bocce ball big, brother? You pull that up. Tennis, I guess, it's just because I think they're afraid to lose the lifelong fans that they've had. You know what I mean? Yes, and you do need those because- You do, but then you also, how does a sport survive? You have to, like I'm not a big,

Starting point is 00:45:01 I wasn't a big UFC guy at all, and now I like watching it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like if they just stayed true to their fighting fans, like I think they've done an amazing job marketing at press conferences. Tennis has none of that. Like tennis, we don't even have, like if we had a press conference before the match,

Starting point is 00:45:17 that would be good. But now we only have post, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, it could use something. Yeah, how do you spice it up? But it's kind of, it definitely is challenging because it's like with any brand, it's like, how do you cater to, you know,

Starting point is 00:45:31 like we have some young audience members. I'll be like around, you know, kids. Kids. Yeah. And they're like, what the fuck? All people say that in front of their parents and their parents are like, you can't say what the fuck. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:44 I'm like, I can say it to him. And I'm like, I don't know this kid. If you strip it back, like you just, you're teaching people to just be yourself and be comfortable in your own skin. And you know, I think you, at the end of the day, it's not, this is a swear word. Who fucking cares?

Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah, yeah, I think the alarming part is when they say it in front of the parent and then they're like, yeah, this guy says it. And I'm like, and then, because it was in front of the parent and then they're like, yeah, this guy says it and I'm like And then because it was this moment like me and the kid know each other and it's like and the parents looking like Like I don't know this fucking kid and they'll say it again Yeah, just so the parent knows that I do use the word but yeah, but yeah, it's like but yeah There's with everything on the internet though. I don't think watching you swear is that bad compared to some of the shit that's on there now Yeah, that's a good point like it's very less of the two evils. That's for sure. Yeah

Starting point is 00:46:33 What did it say when was basketball one of the biggest how do you play is it like long balls? Yes, it's long balls That's a lot of pretty that's still pretty it's not small now. No. No, I agree. It's actually hard by the way I played recently really it's a lot harder than I, no, I agree. It's actually hard by the way. I played recently. Really? Yeah, it's a lot harder than I thought it was gonna be. When we go to the beach, someone brings it usually. The sport is very popular on the eastern side of the Adriatic, especially in Croatia, Serbia,

Starting point is 00:46:56 Montenegro, Bosnia, Montenegro, I'll say that, Slovenia, yeah, because people are always gonna wanna compete. But yeah, I wonder what you could do to tennis to make it spice up. I think if they're, you can't put like cheerleaders, that would be, that's too much. Is it?

Starting point is 00:47:15 What about this? If they had a chick in a box on the sideline and every now and then she'd just smile at a play. That would be kind of hot. Wait, what'd you say? Say a chick in a box? Yeah, if you had like a dame or what I don't know what you guys call them over here,

Starting point is 00:47:26 but a female of chest with breasts or of chest. I don't know if you say it, but if you had a female of chest and she was in like a little bit of a cage, maybe I don't want to say it. And then like what, and a good shot happened. A good shot happened every now and then she would just smile or wink, you know?

Starting point is 00:47:44 Just something casual and subtle, so it's respectful, but still just gets a bit more. Off chest. Yeah. Just gets a bit more of like a, oh, look at Olivia, she enjoyed it. You definitely function on a different spectrum, man. I love it.

Starting point is 00:48:01 But you know what I'm saying? Oh, look, Chloe enjoyed that. Like if this is one extra little thing to give it Some like if we get you in more interested then it'll help Yeah, if you got to listen to see if Chloe was interested if she just kept reading her book, you know Yeah, in the little box in the cage or whatever not people know what I'm talking about What else is going on? Mmm What else is going on? Bochiball.

Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah, bochiball. 10 facts about bochiball, the world's third most popular sport. You're lying. No, because you've got to think about all of the elderly, like slow impact, and play with their friends. Bochiball is the third most popular sport in the world after soccer and golf.

Starting point is 00:48:42 Wow. Oh, there's a lot of like senior beef. Yeah, definitely. A lot of people playing for heart pills out there. Imagine that, where you put your script on the line against Mr. Gordon. Wow. George Washington built a bocce court at Mount Vernon in the 1780s. So that must have been big then, man. If in the 17, if in the president build a bocce court. That would have been the thing.

Starting point is 00:49:12 Yeah, it must have been the thing, man. Notable bocce players have included the Roman emperor. So back then, the ancient Greek physician Hippocrates, go the other way, bro. And Galileo, damn baby. They had that fucking space baby playing. That's insane. 25 million people in the U S alone play bocce. Bro, I think this was written by somebody that plays bocce. I've only seen it with some senior citizens, you know, and there's a lot of like Pete. Yeah Regulation Bazzi courts are 91 feet long by 13 feet long and variations are acceptable if foul lines

Starting point is 00:49:54 Mid-court lines and inbound markers are designated Huh Do you are what do you guys think of with paddle ball coming on? Is that a fucking like alarm? Is that does that feel alarming you guys with paddle ball coming on or it's whatever? Well, pickleball is huge too. Pickleball, that's what I mean. That's going crazy. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:50:13 I'm a part owner in one of the teams. Oh you are? Yeah, in Miami. Now is that a bad look? Well, I don't think so. I mean like I love, I love just people people sport in general for me like getting people active and stuff is good Yes, true. Yeah, it's not a bad look. Yeah, it's not mean like look I think Tennis will always be tennis like it's a very different like tennis is way harder, but there's been a couple People that like one of my friends one of my best friends played professional tennis and now he's like he plays professional pickleball

Starting point is 00:50:41 Really? Yeah, and it's like it's good like my is like, he's the same team owner as me as well in Miami. So it's cool. Like a lot of big guys are getting involved in it. It's pretty good. Huh. Yeah. And now Woody, as a part owner, do you have responsibilities in the team or what do you?

Starting point is 00:50:56 Well, we have team meetings every now and then. Like I don't not, I don't do much for them apart from, you know, be a part of their, like, I guess marketing and all that type of stuff. But we do have team meetings and one time I wasn't really happy with my team. And I told him to get a new team so we could start winning. Yeah. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. Like, it's, I reckon you'd be good at this, to be honest.

Starting point is 00:51:17 I played it two times. Oh, you played it? Yeah, but one time, we didn't bring any sunscreen. So you got burnt? I got... Yeah, I don't know what happened to me, but I've definitely... I left part of me out there on the field, baby. It's fun. It's growing too. It's huge in the States.

Starting point is 00:51:36 It's growing and it's also... There's a big gay contingency in the States that's playing as well. Can you look that up? Gay pickleball? Gay pickleball. It's huge in the States it's playing as well. Can you look that up? Gay pickleball? It's huge in the States. What like, like just gay pickleball? Well yeah, because I think it's just the attire and the kind of pitter patter close to the, you know, the bat. It's like pickleball is personally and financially welcoming for gay players.

Starting point is 00:52:06 Told you. There's no way you're gonna get four people that close together in little shorts. You are gay. Batting something around and then gay dudes aren't gonna get excited. Bro, gay people can play whatever they want. And they're doing it right here.

Starting point is 00:52:21 It says, bring up a gay pickleball player See is the top you're telling me this click on that image go back one one, please brother Look on this image right here. You're telling me, huh? That's a girl. Yeah, but you can barely tell it is dude You're telling me every gay male in America doesn't see this and be like Get me an uber over there right now in America doesn't see this and be like get me an uber over there right now. This is everything they want man. It's competitive, it's outdoorsy. Yeah there he is right here. There's a player right here. Out player Zach Taylor. Zoom in on him. Can we get a better picture of him? Come on. This is definitely, this is the... Oh my gosh.

Starting point is 00:53:05 This is the, um, this is everything. This is everything. You want to zoom in on his shorts or what? Well just get a, I'm just seeing, or just look up a better picture of him. This guy's over here, this pervert. I can zoom in on the guy. Sorry, I know I told you to, but still, just because somebody tells you to be a pervert doesn't mean you should, you know? But no, I'm joking, man, you're a great guy and I think we are... But yeah, I just want to see because I'm sure this gay pickleball

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Starting point is 00:55:17 What else can we talk about? Was there anything else in there? What are you doing off this? Chilling for a bit? Lunch? What I'm gonna do. Relax, Charlie. Go have a sleep. Might go get a nap at some point. I might hit an AA meeting. I go to AA meetings

Starting point is 00:55:30 because I'm mentally unwell. And then, yeah, hang out with my boys. Maybe hit the pool for a bit. Yep. Hit the show tonight. What time you stop? I go on at 7 40. Show starts at 7.

Starting point is 00:55:46 Over at the ICC we got a couple shows. Last night was amazing. That place is amazing. You been there? Yep. Wow. Yeah, I mean, you said it. They love you here bro. It's just amazing over there. And yeah, the people, they don't cheer as much at the end though, which is interesting. Really?

Starting point is 00:56:04 Yeah, they kind of, alright, we had a nice time. And it's all, it's kind of fair, I kind of like it. It's like, yeah, we both came, we did our service. Yeah, but I want them to go crazy for you. They definitely are excited, you know. Some lady last night left me a love note on the stage. Can you read it? Let me see if I have it on me.

Starting point is 00:56:24 Oh my God. Fuck, I don't have it. Oh, was it like a, like a love? It was a poem and it was from a woman of Slavic. She said she was Slavic. So I think it's you, you have Slavio. And she said, um, she had a poem and then she's, and it said, call me at the bottom. No contact information. So just... Yeah. Okay, cool. Awesome. Thanks. So, pretty good poem. Pretty good poem, though. Are people allowed to throw messages to you guys? Do you guys get like a...

Starting point is 00:56:58 At the end of the match, if you win, you can go sign like, to the fans, like hundreds of fans. And sometimes, yeah, like, definitely. Someone will try to holler at you, a woman will try to holler at you. Yeah for sure. I mean it's happened yeah. Well for sure. I feel like that's like a normal thing sometimes in sport though. Like people shoot their shot at their athletes.

Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah that's a good point huh. And has anybody ever tried to like write their number on a ball or something and just thrown it out on the court or anything? Oh not like, cause it's hard to do it on the ball but yeah like that, like love notes, pieces of paper, all that type of stuff, yeah. People get pretty creative these days.

Starting point is 00:57:29 I mean, with social media though, It's pretty easy. It's pretty easy. Yeah, but I'll message a girl back, even if it's a girl that I'm interested in, you know, like I'll be like, oh, maybe, cause I don't have a wife yet, you know? So I think like, and I travel a lot,

Starting point is 00:57:44 so it's hard to like build something. I agree. You know? And so sometimes I think like and I travel a lot so it's hard to like build something I agree, you know, and so sometimes I'm like I would like to meet somebody in the but then I'll find like the other day a girl messaged me right and It was just kind of a nice little message. So it's I wrote her back then she takes our message and puts it on her Story, that's fucked up. And so then I'm like, well now Like that's fucked up. And so then I'm like, well now, like that's just happened all the time. Complaining about. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:58:08 But it just like was like, no, but fuck now it's like, I, but then now you feel like you feel like such a fucking, I didn't say anything messed up. Yeah. You were just being nice. And just like, you feel like a creep and now you can, and then it makes you were like, oh, I'm never messaging anybody. You got your walls up. No, I know that.

Starting point is 00:58:24 I mean, I w I've had plenty of times where shit like that's happened. And it's like, I feel like, yeah, it's fucked, man. I feel sorry for you in that standpoint. It would be like 10 times worse for you in my life. But that shit's cool. Oh, I don't know. I think for, but with that, at least I just don't have a company to report to. What if you, you know, you have at least like, they could say something, you know?

Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, I mean still, today's day and age where you just message a girl back and then what she posted online for what? For a bit of clout. I know, it just is weird. Because then you're like, oh, we can't even get to know each other, but I don't know, I guess it just, it is what it is, man.

Starting point is 00:59:00 I don't want to sound like one of these fucking guys that's complaining about some girl messaging you. I know, but like that's why I think if you look at like the rate of relationships failing and stuff, it's because of all that type of stuff. Oh, it's horrible. Like it's- Oh, it's real scary, man.

Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah, it's just scary. There didn't used to be as so many things you would see that would tempt you because temptation, you can't really, you can only fight it so much. Like it's built into you. temptation, you can only fight it so much. Like it's built into you. Like to be attracted to something else is built into you. Yeah, yeah. I don't disagree.

Starting point is 00:59:33 I don't disagree. But it used to be like in the old days, like if you would just go to the grocery market or something, you would see a woman across the thing and you would just, you know. I guess now it's a bit more accessible and attainable. But yeah, I mean like that, that makes me angry. What you just told me like what they should post.

Starting point is 00:59:52 It made me kind of angry too. Cause it didn't make me like, oh, can I now never gonna message anybody. Then my brain starts going, well now you're never gonna fucking meet anyone. You fucking quick, you know, or something. Yeah. Yeah, you just gotta be be it'll happen organically yeah

Starting point is 01:00:06 yeah that's what they keep saying right here yeah oh what happened here um ex-inmate who complained he spent too long in jail on joe rogan's podcast arrested after police find body parts in freezer this guy something johnson was it was wait wait sorry so so wait so he went to prison he went to prison an ex-convict who claimed to have turned his life around after Joe Rogan's podcast has been arrested and charged with murder. Sheldon Johnson, 48, had been on the Joe Rogan experience and discussed his justice reform advocacy in an episode that aired just last month. Johnson had previously spent over two decades behind bars after sentenced for attempted murder and robbery. So he spent two decades. And then he got out and then he went on the podcast and they just found this recently.

Starting point is 01:00:48 Yes. And then he just now killed somebody and then just chuck it, stuck it in the freezer. And I think, yeah, at least he put them in the free. I knew, I knew something like that. I'm just, what do you do? Like, what are you talking about? That is not at least why is at least at the front of that right? Yeah, I guess you're right. We mean at least that there's some level of decency. I feel like if you just

Starting point is 01:01:15 Kill someone and leave them out to spoil or whatever. That's fucking horrible You don't think so I Just think that person just needs to get put away again. Well, yes, I think we can both agree with that, Nicholas, but I'm just saying that I believe... But what happens if you put in the freezer because he wanted to do something to it afterwards? Like that's like sick in the head. Well, that's very sick, yes. But I think if it's just a level of like, oh, gosh, at least let me do my best by them now.

Starting point is 01:01:47 By, yeah, I guess, you're right, I mean, yeah. But did he put the whole body in? What did he do? Let's see what he did, at least, before we make a judgment. This is on, you should search up, so some guy, you know how this is on you kind of saying, like Australia's being a safe place and whatever. So about six months ago, someone came to my house with a gun. He searched it up on the internet if you want a gun

Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah, and he robbed my rob my like he had my mama gunpoint stole my car. No, I had a Tesla It was a green Tesla. Anyway, stole it and the article came out yesterday. So he pled guilty yesterday So if you see there, it's right there and then they found out yesterday that he killed someone 20 years ago. No. Yeah, fucking crazy. So this was, that was my car, I don't have it anymore. Like he came to my house, stole it with a gun, and then he pled guilty, but then like later,

Starting point is 01:02:37 in the article it says like, that he killed someone 20 years ago. A 33 year old Canberra man has pleaded guilty in the act of Supreme Court to rob Ruth an offensive weapon over the theft of tennis player Nick Kirios's Tesla in May last year the man pointed the gun at Miss Kirios's mother It was pretty scary day man. Oh my god, and you weren't there. I was in the house. Yeah, I was in bed

Starting point is 01:02:57 It was Monday morning 7 45. I ran I ran to the door. My mom was screaming and then she was just like saying He's got a gun. He's got a gun I was just like it's called the police like I saw was screaming and then she was just like saying, he's got a gun, he's got a gun. I was just like, it's called the police. Like I saw him outside and I was like, holy shit. And your mother came inside then. Yeah. So she told her to come out and start the car. She's like, I don't know how to do it.

Starting point is 01:03:14 And then she just ran back in, locked the door. Oh, it's fucking heavy, man. Yeah. My girlfriend was there too. Dude, that must've been so scary. Yeah. It's your freaking mother. Yeah, bro.

Starting point is 01:03:23 It was crazy. And then they only found out yesterday that there was the same guy that the man over someone like 20 years ago The 33 year old was denied bail Over the incident and has been in custody since at one point the men's lawyer tried to have the case thrown out saying the police Had taken too long. Yeah To hand over their brief of evidence But on Friday, he pleaded guilty to robbery with an offensive weapon.

Starting point is 01:03:46 Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Anyway, that was just on the, that was just on the kind of, there you go. See, look here. Wow, the man responsible for the death of the same man who hit and killed 21 year old Canberra woman Clea Rose in 2005. Miss Rose died three weeks after they hit and run.

Starting point is 01:03:59 The man who was 14 at the time, oh, pleaded guilty to culpable driving, causing death and was sentenced to 18 months in a youth detention center. Wow. So he is, he is not changed. Well, he has a lot of issues with automobiles, huh? Yeah. As well.

Starting point is 01:04:16 I mean, that's crazy. Yeah. I wonder what makes him want to do that. Yeah. It was just crazy. Like just on the whole thing that just came out yesterday, it's crazy. That was, that day was. So yesterday you just found just came out yesterday, it's crazy. That day was- So yesterday you just found all that out.

Starting point is 01:04:28 Well, we knew that the trial- They also did the murder. Yeah, that came out yesterday. Like we knew that he was going to court and stuff, but- How did they convict him? How did they know? I don't know. I guess they just, after more, that's what I said.

Starting point is 01:04:40 I was like, how did it take like almost seven months to find out that it's the same guy? But it was like, anyway it take like almost seven months to find out that it's the same guy but it was like anyway That was a scary morning. Then it was just on the topic that you know, Australia's a nice Amen, the stuff's coming. It's it's everywhere now. Is it really getting worse you think in here in Australia? Yeah big time like I'm from Canberra. It's not like a great neighborhood But it's not like to someone to come on Monday morning at 745 to your doorstep Yeah, and then just put 7 45 to your doorstep.

Starting point is 01:05:05 Yeah. And then just point a gun at your mom's. Oh it sounds very American. Sadly you know. Yeah it was. I say that sadly man. It's fucking it's so sad there's a part of me that does not want to go back and feel at risk all the time. Yeah. Feel like you always have to protect yourself. Yeah I definitely feel like I mean, that was my, my parents have lived there for like 40 years. So it was a bit, it's a bit scary for me. And there was another, some guy actually came robbed out in another car the other day as well.

Starting point is 01:05:33 It's getting crazy. Scary. And guns, but that, how'd that guy even get a gun? You can get, yeah, people can get guns. Really? Yeah, man. I like that, yeah. Cause you always think of like, they wouldn have it, yeah, cause you always hear that

Starting point is 01:05:47 there's no guns like, cause you always think about grand theft Australia or whatever and people are just trying to convince each other to like get out of the car or whatever. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like there was a time where someone having a gun in Australia was like, but now it's like dude that, it happened like six months ago. It's wild. Scary. I know and I just wish that people use swords and shit still that'd be pretty hectic so much more fair though Yeah, I mean look. Yeah, it's a yeah. It's a bit more fair. Yeah. Yeah, you have a sword on you

Starting point is 01:06:17 No, I don't have a sword on me, bro. I'm not a fighter man Okay, look, I ain't looking I'll tell you that I'm not a fighter man. Look, I ain't looking, I'll tell you that. Do you think because you're really locked in, you guys have a back, you have a backhand, right? Backhand, forehand, yeah. And so do you think when you look at this slap fight, Dude, what the?

Starting point is 01:06:36 You think this is something you could get into? Dude, this shit's crazy. This stuff is, this is entertaining, man. I don't mind this, oh my God, tattoo's not gonna save you at that. Yeah, that guy thought, man. I don't mind this at all. My God, tattoo is not going to save you at that. Yeah. That guy thought, and that's blackface also too. Can we just say that like, Oh, that guy's nothing. That's flirting.

Starting point is 01:06:54 Are you just no bro? Oh, that's backseat. Oh, damn. No, this sports crazy. Like this sport is like, Wow. This sports nuts. Whoa, that guy started in the past so much

Starting point is 01:07:09 momentum oh this guy shaking I mean it's pretty crazy but do you think you could do this because you built it's built into your body yeah maybe but I don't know how good I would be at taking the hit though. Like a tennis player, you know, we kind of like hit and maneuver like very calculated for our next move. Where here it's like, you want to throw one, you have to stay put.

Starting point is 01:07:36 No, I'm not doing that bro, sorry. And also you're tall. So if people like feel like we're aiming up, it would just be all, they would really be able to, I don't know. I don't know the angles and how it affects what what's best you know this different like yeah you got to go sometime and if you're in the States dude I'll take you if there's yeah I'll go watch I like Wolverine I like that guy yeah bring him

Starting point is 01:07:55 up he's dope Wolverine and topin I think his name is t-u-p-p-i-n he's awesome to watch you got to watch him verse top and I think t-u-p-p-I-N. He's awesome to watch. You gotta watch him versus Toppin, I think. T-U-P-P-I-N. I watched it the other day. I might have been, I went to one, I'm going to one in a couple weeks. So crowds are big there, huh? Yeah, oh, it's not as big.

Starting point is 01:08:12 It's pretty small. Intimate? It's intimate. Here is, this is what, this is, this is, this guy's nuts. Wolverine versus Turpin. Yeah. Light heavyweight match. Oh no, the one I didn't see wasn't for the title.

Starting point is 01:08:24 This dude, Turpin's face. Yeah, these guys are nuts. He knocked that guy's a cap of cig. I think he knocked him out. Sometimes I think a slap like that would hurt more than a punch. Oh, you're right. Sometimes I think a slap like that would hurt more than a punch. Oh You're right. Honestly, sometimes I do think that like this guy just watches ready bang bang. Oh, here we go Dude he's always look he's singing the national anthem. He's definitely fired up right there. And Beckham might not even have a chin.

Starting point is 01:09:08 He's definitely hiding whatever. He may have a unique chin under there. It's very hard to hit somebody like that. And I wonder if you can get down low. No, because that's called clubbing, I think. If you get down low and try and club, I think it has to be a legal slap. Because the thing about legal slaps, how you throw it, and then if someone flinches,

Starting point is 01:09:26 they get to slap again. Heaps of all these rules, yeah, it's crazy. What if someone just screams like a little girl? That's what I would worry about. That's what happens. I would do it, I don't care. Oh, I would do that first. So at least if you get hit after,

Starting point is 01:09:38 it would be like, I'd be like, ah, and then just get fucking drilled. Can you bring up what are the rules of Power Slap? Is a great question. Yeah, Power Slap is nuts. Yeah, I went one time and like there was Cowboy Saroni was there, Sean Strickland. It's definitely a lot of like influencer entertainers.

Starting point is 01:10:01 A lot of Dana White's friends are there. It's very much like a friendly thing. Who strikes first in power slap? A coin toss or seating method will determine who gets to elect the slap or defend first. The clock, you have 30 seconds to slap, 30 seconds to recover, repeat. Wow, bro, that is a short amount of time.

Starting point is 01:10:20 30 seconds, yeah, that's quick. Weight classes are consistent with MMA, so there is a weight class, I didn't realize that. Rounds, the number of rounds depends on the format, with the minimum being three. In each round, both competitors have the opportunity to deliver a single strike to their opponent's face and the obligation to receive

Starting point is 01:10:37 their opponent's strike in return. Method of victory, KO, TKO, and points. Like boxing and MMA, power slap judging is based on a 10 point must system with a round winner scoring 10 points and the opponent scoring nine or fewer. Wow. So Dana White owns this as well, right?

Starting point is 01:10:55 Yes. It's pretty crazy. It's unbelievable, yeah. And this is, according to Dana, one of the most Like Viral things that happens when it happens. Yep fouls striker fouls include clubbing their clubbing stepping Yeah, so I guess I'd be making an actual step with your foot illegal windup. Oh, I'd be way guilty of that delay of flinching blocking delay of game Wow

Starting point is 01:11:26 that. And delay of game. Flinching, blocking, delay of game. Wow. The complete power-slap rules that we posted shortly. Huh. Pretty cool. Yeah, that's crazy man. You think you could do it? No. I don't think I'm like I don't getting hit. No. Not your thing? No. What is one of the scariest moments in a tennis match? Are there moments where you find like, because I'm sure so much of it is rhythm, you've done it so much, right? Yep. Is there moments where you feel out of rhythm and you're like, fuck, this is a, like.

Starting point is 01:11:52 Yeah, big time. Or like, at US Open, I was playing quarterfinals at US Open and I was, like US Open, Arthur Ashe Stadium is one of the biggest stadiums in the world for tennis. Like it's literally, you walk to the back of the court, you look up, it's like a sea of people. like staring down at you and it's really loud and you have celebrities there like Michael Jordan was there once.

Starting point is 01:12:12 Pretty lit. Like it's, it's a surreal feeling walking out to a court like that in front of like 60,000 and then you do it like millions of people watching around the world. But it's like, yeah, if you're playing horrible, like, and you know, deep down, if you're not having a good day, like on court and you can't fix it because it's like, you can't just like instantly fix it. You gotta be like, shit, I can't just sub off here or pause the game or take a timeout.

Starting point is 01:12:33 It's like the game just keeps going. You got to just problem solve, like on the go. It's fucking hard. And like, is it possible to turn it around in a match? Is it possible? Yes, because in a grand Slam, it's like, you have to win three sets.

Starting point is 01:12:47 So even if you lose the first two, you have time to figure it out and turn it around, but it's fucking hard. It's why Novak and Federer and Nadal have been so dominant for so long because in the Grand Slam, it's so hard to get on top of them for that long. Like, pause.

Starting point is 01:13:04 Like, you can get on, you might win a set or two. Like, that's like two hours, but then they'll eventually start figuring you out. And then it's just like. And is there actual coaching that helps, or is it just at that point you know what's going on? Everyone knows everyone's strengths and weaknesses. It's just about execution at that point.

Starting point is 01:13:21 Right. Yeah. Like, when you're out there alone, like, your coach can yell something out, but if you can't execute, it's not gonna happen. Yeah. It's a pretty, it's a brutal sport, man. Is it? I don't think people give it enough credit.

Starting point is 01:13:36 Especially the top. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I, yeah, cause it, to stay that long, four hours of doing, and who does anything, you know, unless you're like, just doing something, that's such a commitment. And you have to be mentally locked in too.

Starting point is 01:13:53 Like, are there ever points you just zoned out? You're like, fuck. Yeah, big time. Sometimes I just throw a game or a set, like just to mentally reset for sure, definitely. Yeah. Yeah, because it's hard. Wow, so that's almost part of the strategy too

Starting point is 01:14:05 You're like, yeah It's like boxing like you put your hands down for a little bit like or you know, just taking a little bit of a pause People I've been accused of like not trying or like it's called tanking You know, you're just giving the opponent easy points and it's just like I'm just trying to compose myself to go again Right. It's like a boxer does it you wouldn't accuse him of just like not trying. Yeah tactic, you know Mmm, Todd that you wouldn't accuse him of just like not trying. It's just like a tactic, you know? It's hard. Yeah, man. Damn, I never realized that.

Starting point is 01:14:29 I never even thought about it. I never even thought about what it would be like to be out there for so long. And then if you're not doing well, then too, how do you even keep going? Yeah, you gotta have a short-term memory loss or like you have to be a good loser in tennis because you lose every week. Essentially like you have to be a good loser in tennis because you lose every week

Starting point is 01:14:46 essentially like you have to win six matches to win a tournament and Novak these greatest of all time are usually winning these tournaments So like you win then you go lose and you just like reset next week new country Like losing is just part of the process really. Yeah, which is hard And is there much camaraderie amongst the players and stuff? Or do you get to... Another cool thing, like we shout, like any other pro sport you have your own locker room, like you eat separately like tennis, you're all in one locker room

Starting point is 01:15:12 like I'm showering and I'm eating and I'm spending time with my opponent before going out there and playing. No. Yeah. And then we like, you might be out there four hours playing and then you're just like next to each other again straight after the match. No. Fucking crazy. Oh Is that so is sometimes that really uncomfortable? You're like, I do not want to be around this person anymore

Starting point is 01:15:31 He's like we just competed and we could get into a bit of a like a scuffle on the court or like argument Then you like sharing next to guys like the fuck is this? Yeah, crazy. Oh Yeah, like Wimbledon final me and Novak in the same locker room, like right next to each other. And then we're walking out together, eating together, then we play like the final. What the fuck? Yeah, it's crazy.

Starting point is 01:15:54 Why would they, they should film all of that. Why isn't that the first three sets, dude? Yeah. You guys just, you know, having soup next to each other, just angrily. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, I'll see why that isn't the first. Yep. Oh, it's so intense. Yep What's in any other news anything else that popped up that was in our list man?

Starting point is 01:16:11 And we'll get you out of here Nick. Easy, brother. This is about AI Jensen Huang who I'm gonna assume is Asian asian is Esien. At the recent World Government Summit in Dubai, NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang made a counterintuitive break with what he thinks is a long tradition of tech CEOs advising youngsters to learn how to code. Huang argued that even at this early stage of the artificial intelligence revolution, programming is no longer a vital skill. With coding taken care of by AI,

Starting point is 01:16:48 humans can instead focus on more valuable expertise like biology, education, manufacturing, or farming. Wow. I agree with it. You do? Yeah, because it's like anything you leave down to like computers and AI, some would do with numbers for sure. Yeah. It'd get done probably way more, like 10 and AI, some would do with numbers for sure.

Starting point is 01:17:05 It'd get done probably way more, like 10 times more accurate and done in the shortest period of time. But here's one thing that's interesting about AI is like, if they can program the backend of AI, right? Then they'll be able to start to dictate like what even is created or written, like and what history is in it.

Starting point is 01:17:22 Like I say, if they only put a certain history in AI and they only say one side of history, or they don't, you know, then if you're even writing a paper and you wanna use AI to help you, or a script, or creating a piece of art, the information it's gonna give back, that's what I start to worry.

Starting point is 01:17:39 Because, like imagine if you wrote a note to somebody, but the paper determined what you could actually say in the note. Yeah, like you had limitations, it had to be one way. Right, the paper wouldn't let you put certain words, you wrote certain words, they disappeared, and they replaced it with another word that the paper felt like was more accurate.

Starting point is 01:17:57 It's arguably what the media is right now though. Oh, 100%, that's exactly what the media is, but I think, yeah, I agree, but if AI can do that, they'll, then it's like even say someone, your mom wanted to make a post on Facebook or something. They put it up, but it only allows you to say even, so then we're all just only allowed

Starting point is 01:18:16 to say the same things, you know? And look, AI would never be able to take over, say like podcasting or sport and stuff, because people watch that because of the personalities and the unknown outcome. That's a good point. Right. So we're safe. Yeah, you would think. Yeah, we're safe. I think we're safe. You would think. One of my friends was saying the other day that he thinks like at a certain point they won't even need actors for movies anymore because it will just be the likeness of people. Yeah, so people will just give their likeness. Yeah, that's that's pretty crazy. It is crazy.

Starting point is 01:18:44 That's what gets me scared. Because what if one day you just get to sit at home and then it's just like a- And see how you do at the US Open. Yeah, that would be crazy. Like they extract your self from you, but you just kind of just what, yeah, that, honestly, I wouldn't mind a fucking day off.

Starting point is 01:18:59 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I feel you, bro. You know, like I actually wouldn't mind that, having that option. Yeah. You know? Yeah, like, you know what?

Starting point is 01:19:08 I'm gonna put my AI in today and see how he does. And I'm okay if it comes back and it's a loss. I don't give a shit. That would be good. Bro, that would be so good. Yeah, I'll do it. Autopilot. Dude, it'd be so nice.

Starting point is 01:19:19 Yeah, but then it sucks though for like a farmer who's like, I'm gonna send my AI to work and then it's just, you know, nothing gets watered. Just no corn. Nick man, thanks so much for hanging out bro. Appreciate it man, it was good. I appreciate it dude, yeah.

Starting point is 01:19:35 I would love to, yeah, I gotta come see a match man. 100%, definitely. It's definitely interesting. I wish I could come to your show tonight. Yeah. I'm on a double date with my girlfriend. Although which I'm really looking forward to, I just, I just want, you know.

Starting point is 01:19:46 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Mrs. I just would love to come. Oh, that's all right, man. That'd be good. We'll get you to another one sometime, man. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, thanks for, yeah, just thanks, man. It's cool.

Starting point is 01:19:57 Yeah, it makes me care a little bit more about tennis now. It's interesting, you meet somebody and then you're like, oh, I want to learn more about tennis. You know, it's funny sometimes like the power of, of an actual person to introduce somebody to something new. Definitely, definitely. It's really real. Your podcast as well? Yeah, Good Trouble.

Starting point is 01:20:15 Season one, four episodes have come out. Nice. Yeah, it's good, man. I mean, I do it because I'm actually, like I'm passionate about learning about others' journey. And it's been pretty good, man. Speaking of, and these are the people that I look up to. And with me, I've got massive imposter syndrome.

Starting point is 01:20:32 I see you all over social media now. I'm sitting next to you having a conversation. That shit blows my mind. But talking Gordon Ramsay about his culinary journey. Oh yeah. Fucking crazy. Like he was saying some pretty cool stuff and it's cool. Yeah, imposter syndrome is so real, isn't it? Yeah, it's nuts.

Starting point is 01:20:49 People like, you got like other people saying like, oh, a sign of an insecure person is imposter syndrome. So usually the people that haven't really been there aren't doing anything. Yeah. You know, like it's so real that like, I'm like, I'm from Canberra and I'm sitting next to Theo Vonn, some crazy stuff.

Starting point is 01:21:03 Well, it's crazy for me that I'm sitting next to somebody who's been at Wimbledon, you know? Oh, did you see Stone Hands when you went over there? Nah, bro, bro. I was there, I made the final. I had nothing else to do for, I was there for like 20 days, bro, just like playing, eating, sleeping,

Starting point is 01:21:20 physiotherapy, massage, sleep. Wow. That's it. Like I had maybe went out for dinner a little bit, but my dad was there. I was very lucky. He was cooking, but no time to do anything else. Dude, Stonehenge, go see it if you get a chance.

Starting point is 01:21:32 I think it only takes, I don't know how long, cause I don't know where it is, but you can go there. It's like they make it, I remember in school, it was like a big deal. Do you remember that? Yeah, yeah. Bro, it's fucking, it's just some rocks on the side of the interstate, man.

Starting point is 01:21:44 On the side of the highway. Like, they don't care at all. It's like, you just drive by it. Really? Yeah, like they made such a big deal about it in the US, but I went there, yeah. It's just like, I don't know, whatever. Nick Curios, thank you so much, man.

Starting point is 01:21:58 Best of luck, man. When are you gonna be back at tennis, do you think? About one month. One month back on court. Really? Yeah. Fuck, bro. So, very soon, yeah. Yep. Wow.

Starting point is 01:22:07 Yeah, we're gonna get you out there. Yeah dude, I'll be out there. So where do you live in the States? Texas, right? I live in, yeah sure. I live in Texas. I live in Tennessee. Tennessee.

Starting point is 01:22:15 But I've thought about moving down to Texas, man. I think about it sometimes. It's a cool place. Yeah. Well come to New York. Come to US Open. Yeah, I would love to man. I gotta go.

Starting point is 01:22:23 I've never been so. Yeah, you would love it, cause you actually can like have a drink and oh, you don't drink, or you can just be loud. Who knows, if I, yeah, who knows if I'll be drinking by then, but probably not, but if I do, I'll fucking have one right there. 100%.

Starting point is 01:22:35 I'll get fucking ridiculous in there. I'm down. Oh yeah. All right, Nick, thanks man. Appreciate that man. Cheers bro. Enjoy, good luck for tonight, eh? Yeah, thank you man.

Starting point is 01:22:44 Now I'm just floating on the breeze Thanks, man. Appreciate that. Cheers, bro. Enjoy good luck for tonight. Yeah. Thank you, man

This Past Weekend - E488 Nick Kyrgios

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