This Past Weekend - E522 Tommy Lee

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Starting point is 00:01:03 slash T-O-U-R Thank you so much for your support. Today's guest is a drummer for one of America's greatest rock and roll bands ever called Motley Crue. You know it. And he also loves Japanese shrubbery. We're gonna learn some things about this little cat. He spent years behind the drum kit and he still gets it done.

Starting point is 00:01:24 You know him and I'm happy to get to today's guest is Mr. Tommy Lee. Shine on me And I will find a song I've been singing just for you I have a fucking... Dude, I got an ear. Like, one of my ears I can't hear. I think there's something... Like, I don't know what happened to it. It's just been getting, I'm at the age kind of, I feel like where if something starts breaking, you're like, am I gonna go get it fixed or am I just gonna? Dude.

Starting point is 00:02:11 You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I get it. I get it. I'm like, I have a reason for my shit now breaking down slowly. But I'm like, fuck it. Do I fix it or do I just leave it? Yeah. Breaking down slowly, but I'm like, you know, fuck it. Do I fix it or do I just leave it? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:28 I just say what a lot. Yeah. It kind of fits in with your vibe too. You're like, I can't, yeah. Should Timely be able to hear at this point? Probably not. Does he still deserve all of his senses? That's what a lot of people would probably,

Starting point is 00:02:41 you know? Dude, that's hilarious. But yeah, my shit's just like, I don't know what's going on. But then I'm like, yeah, do I go get this shit fixed or am I just like, this is the part of my life where one of my ears is gone, you know? Or one of my, I just can't hear anymore, you know, out of one ear.

Starting point is 00:02:56 What happened? Did you? I don't know. Did something blow up or just like lots of loud music or? No, I think just, I don't know. Could have just been listening to some chick's bullshit. I don't even know what happened to me. Or just, yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:03:11 It just me and I just haven't had time. It's all good, man. It just is what it is, dude. That's cool. Yeah, I think it's been, it made some of my dreams kind of weird. I keep having this. Do you ever have any like recurring dreams?

Starting point is 00:03:24 No, it's the fucking weirdest thing. I don't really dream a lot. My wife dreams all the time. Every morning, every morning she's like, Oh my God, I had the craziest dream. And then she's, she's like, you don't dream. You lived one. I just, I'm living it. Maybe if you get to live a dream, it's like, God's like, Hey, we're not doing, you can't play both sides of the net, you know? That's awesome. It could be.

Starting point is 00:03:50 It could be. Because dreams, yeah, I think you're, yeah, I don't know. That's kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah, dude, you got to live such a dream, man. Do you ever like, do you ever look at your life and you think like, did I do it well enough? Did I service the opportunity enough?

Starting point is 00:04:07 Like, is there ever like some thoughts like that kind of? Well, you know. Or is that weird? I don't know. I think mostly I walk around with a shitload of gratitude. I'm constantly pinching myself like, fuck, I still get to do this. I still get to rock the fuck out, go do this, go do that. Like I get to live, man. So I've just been really grateful lately

Starting point is 00:04:35 because I could not be here. Yeah. You know? Oh, and yeah, you guys definitely, yeah. And fuck, I want a you guys definitely. Yeah. And fuck, I want a spaceship, man. I want to hang around long enough because I'm still pissed, dude.

Starting point is 00:04:51 The year 2000, we were supposed to Theo's I'm here. Yeah. Yeah. You think, yeah, you think at this point, we'd be able to email people to each other or something or like, you know, email people. Yeah. I think like, send it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah. Just like a door dash shows up and you're like, oh, you're two houses off and you just Like a door dash shows up and you're like, oh your two houses off and you just forward them That would be crazy bro That would be pretty great actually That would be But sometimes I wonder like if they had that travel where you could like warp or whatever, you know Like you could just go in a machine and then it sent you know, you you Next thing you know, you're in Cedar Rapids or something was like I wonder like would you get like would some people show, would some people show up in their fucking arms or like, it's like, you know, there's like a glitch or whatever.

Starting point is 00:05:48 Something failed in the transmission. Like you have a show like that night in Des Moines and they, they know, send me back. Yeah. And yeah, that would be the crazy part because sometimes you would just have to go do like if it's during Christmas and the holidays are so busy and like oh you got the wrong arms and they like mix you up or whatever you show up with like some big fucking BLM arms or whatever you like. Oh shit dude. You know, I don't know what I don't even know what I'm talking about. Tommy Lee thanks for coming in man. Thanks for having me, dude This is fucking cool. Yeah, it's really cool man crazy dude Just because like I mean obviously like so many people tell you all the time just grew You know, dr. Feel good just so much of just like me my brother would beat me beat me to you guys his music That's crazy. Yeah, I was the drum dude

Starting point is 00:06:40 I was a snare for my brother and it was awesome though, but it was loving, you know, like You know, all right, but it was awesome, but it was loving, you know, like, you know, but it was just, yeah, it was just so crazy. Like we used to get all the rocker magazines and like they'd always have like, you know, like the pictures in there look so cool and the stories would be so kind of vague, but somebody would be kind of bleeding or something, you know?

Starting point is 00:07:00 Remember those magazines, dude? Yeah, yeah. Like, they're gone. Kegar, no, what was one? Kenny, Kagan? Yeah, yeah. Like, Kega. They're gone. Kega, no, what was one? I'm Kennegan. Kagan? No, is that it? Oh, Kerrang?

Starting point is 00:07:10 Kerrang, yeah. Kerrang was the European version, yeah. Yeah, dude. Somebody got Kerrang in our neighborhood somehow, and we would. Kerrang. And then what are some other ones that we got? That shit was so great, though. Circus? Yeah, Circus, dude. shit was so great though. Circus.

Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah, circus dude. Circus was another one. Circus, yeah. Yeah dude, it was so great when those came in. Karang. You guys are touring still. Yeah, we're kind of finishing up for the remainder of the summer.

Starting point is 00:07:41 We're just doing some festivals here and there until I think September we finish up, but we're still finishing up that last stadium tour, but the summer is now just some festivals kind of assorted here and there, which are kind of fun, man. It's different to, um, I don't know, explain it. These, they're kind of like, you probably are familiar with this kind of like one-off stuff cause you're doing comedy.

Starting point is 00:08:13 You like fly in and do show, come back, you know, um, where on a tour you get on a bus and you, you know, come fucking home for a year and a half. Yeah. Um, um, so these weekend ones are fun. and you don't come fucking home for a year and a half. Yeah. So these weekend ones are fun. We just did one this last weekend and literally left from Van Nuys, went to Minot,

Starting point is 00:08:38 played the show and was back 24 hours later and it was just like, this is kinda cool too. Yeah. It's weird to kinda start up and stop like that. Yeah. But it is cool because you're in and out. Yeah, it's weird. It's like, there's times when it's like,

Starting point is 00:08:51 I'll be out on the road and I'll be like, God, I want to be home. But then, but then I'll be home and I'll be like, I want to be out on the road. And then sometimes it gets to a point where it's like, I don't even know if I want to be home anymore. Dude, that's the exact, the grass is always greener. If you're out on the road, you're like,

Starting point is 00:09:05 fuck man, I'd kill to sleep in my own bed. And then when you're at home, you're like, fuck, I wanna get back out. Yeah, you're like, my own bed has my wife in it. You're just never happy. You're like, I gotta get out of here. Fuck, I know, yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:17 Oh. Yeah, it's definitely. You find it hard to relax. Do you like to just keep it moving? Yeah, I wanna keep going. Yeah, I get that vibe from you. I wanna keep going. Cause I think you start to do some things,

Starting point is 00:09:29 you're like, oh, well, what else could I do? You know? And I don't think you know that until you do some, till some little opportunities come, you're like, oh wow, this is possible. You're like, well, what else could I do? What else am I capable of? Am I using my skills to the best, you know?

Starting point is 00:09:44 Right. Trying to be better, man. Yeah. Trying to be better always. I get it. What keeps you, how do you like relax these days? Like what kind of calms you out? Dude, about like seven or eight years ago, I got into fucking bonsai, man.

Starting point is 00:10:13 fucking bonsai man and that's like that's been like like a lifesaver you know it started out as just a fascination from all the times going to Japan I'd always go to the Japanese gardens and be like fuck this is this is the most peaceful beautiful shit I've ever seen in my life. How do I, give me some, how do I? How do I? Give me a couple grams of that. Right? Dude. It's kind of like nature by the gram. It is, it is.

Starting point is 00:10:35 And I just started fucking watching YouTube videos on the art of it and the practice of it and how to do it. And I just went down a rabbit hole and I found it to be the most relaxing, fulfilling, you know, get me close to nature shit to like, just even me out. Cause I'm like you too, I'm pretty fucking hyper.

Starting point is 00:10:59 I don't really like to sit still much, but that was like, I found my, I found my thing, man. Oh, wow. This is it? Yeah. I thought they were way smaller than that. That's you? There's yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:17 In the white shirt? Yeah. Oh my God, dude, I thought that was a lesbian. No offense, dude. I know a lesbian, but yeah. I was like, holy, sorry, bro. I was like, looking for you. Oh, that's awesome.

Starting point is 00:11:32 And this one came with real Asian pizza. This is in Nashville. Right outside of Nashville, that's Bjorn's nursery. Oh, wow. He's now moved on to Japan. Um, but yeah, that's kind of a, that's, that's on the large size bonsai.

Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah. There's, there's much, I mean, there's little, little guys and. Damn. Medium, large. So what is it? Does it feel, cause it almost looks like right there, like, it's almost like a guy, like

Starting point is 00:12:03 you're a God over this little tree. It's like, that's what it looks like right there, like it's almost like a guy, like you're a God over this little tree. It's like, that's what it looks like right there. Cause I never realized how it looks like a whole big tree, just compact, huh? Yeah. And that's basically what it is. I mean, people go up into the mountains and they'll dig out, you know, 20, 30, 40, 50 year old

Starting point is 00:12:20 trees and bring them back, cut them down, cut them all back and put them in a small pot and just kind of start over. And that's years and years of work. Really? Yeah. So it takes a lot of work to get a bonsai to really grow?

Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah. To look, looking like that, a lot of years. Wow. Yeah. So it's kind of, yeah, you're right. It's, it's a project and you're, Yeah. So it's kind of, yeah, you're right. It's a project. And you're calling it godlike. But you're putting in a ton of love and your time

Starting point is 00:12:56 and everything into this tree. It's like a person almost. Oh, yeah, I bet. So there's a lot more gratification from just it being a tree for me. Like I just love all that man. Really? I got like, I think I'm at around 43 trees now. Like it's, I'm fucking obsessed. Damn, yes. You're an addict really. Yeah, I'm an addict. And you keep them inside or where do you keep them at? I bring them inside and enjoy them.

Starting point is 00:13:34 Uh, like when the sun goes down, but most trees, people, that's the first thing people, the mistake they make, you know, I don't know if you're driving around, you see the guy by the side of the road in a van and selling those little bonsais you ever see that that shit driving to the beach or something. Oh yeah. If you're heading towards Malibu or something on PCH? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, people, the first thing people do is go like,

Starting point is 00:13:51 oh yeah, I gotta get one, I want a bonsai. And they put it inside. And they fucking, they kill all the trees. That's the dude. These are like, dude, these are junipers and pines and shit like that. They don't grow indoors. These guys don't tell people that. I mean, there's very few that will grow inside.

Starting point is 00:14:15 Some of the ficus and, but that very few. Most bonsai trees, specimens go outside. So it says right here, the practice of bonsai development incorporates a number of techniques either unique to bonsai or are used in other forms of cultivation. So you trim the leaves, like yeah, what all of the things you do to them?

Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah, you're constantly pruning, trimming, fertilizing, wiring, like you take different gauge wire You're constantly pruning, trimming, fertilizing, wiring. You take different gauge wire, and you're telling the branches where to go, you're styling the tree all out. You're sort of dictating how this thing's gonna, you know, your vision of how the tree will look its best. And is there a certain time when you go do it, Tommy, or is it just kind of like, you're like,

Starting point is 00:15:14 you know, I'm feeling this would be something to do today. Like how much of a responsibility is it as an owner? It's daily, man. It's like, it's like, it's like, uh, it's just part of the program. I mean, I, I'll wake up and like, rip some coffees and cigarettes, and then I go out and talk to the trees and chill out for a while.

Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah. I gotta get the, get the day started right, man. Oh, for sure. You're a grower and a shower, dude. That's what's crazy, bro. I can't even believe that. Um, wow. That's fascinating.

Starting point is 00:15:52 You'd love it, man. I don't know if you like tripping out and just creating shit, but if you like trees and you like creating. I love being creative. And the wild thing is once life gets busy, it's hard to be as creative. It's hard to do as much.

Starting point is 00:16:09 It's hard to be as creative, I feel like. Did you ever feel like that with touring and stuff? It's like, because I can only imagine for you guys, I mean, it seemed like it was kind of, once you launched, it was just like a brush fire, huh? With your band. Yeah, yeah, like, fuck man, since, kind of nonstop.

Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah. Since, you know, I mean, it's, you're always, always fucking doing something. If you're not touring, you're in the studio making the music. If you're not making the music, you're taking a break to start a new record or that like, you know, and you're always doing shit.

Starting point is 00:16:54 So, I don't know what the fuck I'm getting at, but. It's all right, I don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about. It's okay, man. What's one of the hardest parts about being about success as a group? Did you find kind of? Because success is an individual kind of like you have partners and you have teammates and people that support you. Sure. But like as a group it's like there's,

Starting point is 00:17:17 it's almost like you divided by four. So, or like, or, you know, by how many people are in your band. So it's like, fuck. It just seems like it'd be so hard to navigate, to keep everything going, to maintain the success. That, yeah, that's, um, you're, you're 100% right, man. Like anytime there's more people other than yourself involved, balancing, you know, for three other guys and making that work is really rare, man. Really, really rare, and it's not easy. And somehow we've managed to fucking keep it together.

Starting point is 00:17:57 Like, there's only a handful of bands that are still doing it. Oh, yeah. that are still doing it. You know, all of our peers just fell off here, fell off there, and that's why I say I'm just really grateful because that kind of shit doesn't really happen all the time. I don't really know how to explain it. I'm just stoked.

Starting point is 00:18:22 Were you kind of the glue in it? Do you feel like were you kind of the peacekeeper? Like what was your kind of role, do you feel like? Or just. Were you kind of the glue in it? Do you feel like, were you kind of a peacekeeper? Like what was your kind of role? Do you feel like, or were you more like part of the problem or, you know, or you know what I'm saying? Like, cause you can be one or the other

Starting point is 00:18:33 and it's some days it's day to day. It's like some days I know it's like, okay, today I'm part of the solution and today I'm part of the problem. Yeah, dude. I'm absolutely both. Absolutely both. But you gotta have that, right?

Starting point is 00:18:44 I guess. I don't know. Some people are good at just being part of the solution, I feel like. Yeah, that's true. That's probably the better way. Yeah. But.

Starting point is 00:18:53 I just don't know if I, yeah, and I think. But that's kind of boring though. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. I can't imagine that you guys survived that much. Because so many bands just disappeared. So many of them people, singers died. Like, even like StoneTable, like Scott Weiland,

Starting point is 00:19:12 you know, like when I was growing up, like that was a crazy dude. That sound was just something else. Dude, the best. I loved STP. Did you ever get to, did you guys ever tour with them or no? We never toured with them, but we were on a

Starting point is 00:19:26 Cup of festivals with them. Yeah, you know, that's what that's what kind of where everyone meets up with you when you're on festival Yeah, it's like the pumpkins motley crew STP Fucking Van Halen like you know, I mean, that's where you that's where everybody links up and you're all that's fun The festivals are fun, man. Yeah. Cause otherwise you're just kind of by yourself, you know, I mean, you're with your bank, at least with the, you know, you're with your coworkers and your band mates, but yeah, it's kind of a, yeah, people think that there's like all, everybody always hangs out together and it just doesn't get to happen like that a lot.

Starting point is 00:19:58 No, pretty much only festivals, you know, when you're out touring with another band, it's just you guys. Yeah. Or Christmas parties. You ever have, you know, when you're out touring with another band, it's just you guys. Yeah. Or Christmas parties. You ever throw any sick Christmas parties? Did you ever have a party? Some people have like, this is the year, this is the time of year, I throw a fucking party every year and it rocks. Oh, whoa. I mean, I've thrown some parties, but nothing like every year, like, you know, that like, that this is the one.

Starting point is 00:20:27 Do you do that? No. No ragers? Oh, I mean, I've thrown, I mean, a lot of, no, a lot of times I would just end up getting drugs and then doing them by myself at home. That's the best. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:40 It was like the scariest and the best, so. And it was like, I would, I would like rip some cocaine and I'd be like, all right, man, I'm going to get my shit together. Things are going to be different. And then I would just walk in the other room and have like, I got to go check on that cocaine and I would go back.

Starting point is 00:20:55 Just one more before I go to sleep. Yes. Yeah. That's the craziest. Oh dude. The hardest thing to do is hide your cocaine in the other room, dude. Yeah. I would try to hide my cocaine from myself, dude. The hardest thing to do is hide your cocaine in the other room, dude. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:05 And I would try to hide my cocaine from myself, dude. I remember there would be times I would even blindfold myself, right? And like, yeah, walk around my apartment like this, right? With the cocaine in my hand and then kind of throw it somewhere, right? Or like, and sometimes I would even, I would get dizzy and then just throw it like that while I was spinning.

Starting point is 00:21:23 So you don't know where it went? Yeah. and then dude Seven minutes later Where the fuck? Oh, I would have moved everything from one side of the like Fern just fucking oh You're in an apartment. So you'd have to move everything so quietly dude, and when you're high on cocaine the sound any sound is just so Oh My god, I think you don't want to not hear maybe some cocaine in the distance any sound is just so loud. Oh my God. Cause I think you don't want to not hear maybe

Starting point is 00:21:47 some cocaine in the distance. You're like, holy shit, was that some cocaine? But then it's like, I get my skin starts getting warm and it feels like my heart is like, ah, I don't know if we're going to keep beating or not. And you're like, all right, hold on. Let's, let's, let's calm down a little bit. Or let's write a will.

Starting point is 00:22:04 Did you ever write a will or anything like that? No, no, that's pretty heavy, dude. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I guess, even when I was dying, I guess I was kind of a chatty Cathy or whatever, but yeah, we fucking write a will. Did I've written probably, yeah, 16, 17

Starting point is 00:22:22 wills over the years. Oh my God. That's wild. Oh, sad. Cause I would feel bad, yeah, 16, 17 wheels over the years. Oh my God. That's wild. Oh, sad. Cause I would feel bad, you know, if somebody found me or whatever, I'd want them to, you know. Oh, you have it all kind of pinned out like, Hey, sorry. You know, my bad.

Starting point is 00:22:37 I would start with you usually or something like that. Like, cause you wanted to ease them into it, you know? Oh my God, dude. Did you, like, when you... Cause we had the same sober date at one time. You may not even remember it. I remember I went to a meeting one time, this was probably about four years ago,

Starting point is 00:22:56 and it was at a house meeting in Beverly Hills. And yeah, nice guy. It would let people use his home home even if he wasn't there. And we had the same, I wanna say it was like October 17th or something, but I could be totally wrong. And then I lost that at some point. Yeah, and I did too. Okay, all right, all right.

Starting point is 00:23:18 You know what, dude, here's the problem. Yeah, tell me what it is. Here's the problem. And maybe this is true for you Right when I get to a fucking year, I'm so excited that I fucking did something for a year That I want to celebrate yeah And so I only make it a year every fucking time because I'm so pumped I'm like fuck yeah and then I party and then I'm like one fuck every time dude and you have long arms so about raising your hand in the meeting

Starting point is 00:23:58 sucks the most if you have like short arms like people are like, oh, I didn't even see him. But you fucking throw that fucking giraffe up there and people are like, God. Damn, dude. Oh, dude. It is kind of messed up though because there is that level of excitement at hitting one year that makes you just wanna fucking rearrange somebody's fucking asshole, you know?

Starting point is 00:24:19 Yes. Yeah, you wanna fucking celebrate because you actually fucking did something really good. Yeah. You know, you wanna fucking celebrate because you actually fucking did something really good. Yeah. You know, you just fucking, I don't know. You're proud. Yeah. You wanna celebrate.

Starting point is 00:24:33 Oh yeah, you're proud. Fuck. Do you remember the first line of cocaine you ever did or no? A what? You remember the first time you ever did cocaine or no? The first, the very first time I did. Fuck. No, the first, the very first time I did. Uh, fuck no.

Starting point is 00:24:51 Wow. I don't. I remember the first time I did acid, but I don't remember the first time I did cocaine. Yeah. I can't imagine not remembering it, but that's, that's awesome that you don't. And you probably should if yeah, I think

Starting point is 00:25:05 people sometimes probably look at you and be like that dude, no way that dude remembers the first time he did cocaine. Yeah. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Do you remember? Yeah, I remember, dude. I was in Tucson and this dude, he used

Starting point is 00:25:19 to bike to work all the time, right? He was in his forties and that was a dead giveaway that he did a lot of cocaine. Um, my buddy Dennis, he was a bus boy like me, which was also a dead giveaway that this dude was obviously using his money in extra curriculars, dude. And he would get all coked out and bike to work in the desert. And I'm like, this dude's a fucking animal, you know, and he had severe sunburn all the time.

Starting point is 00:25:45 Whoa. And yeah. And, uh, he took me to a party and it wasn't a party. It was just two guys doing cocaine upstairs somewhere at a apartment complex. And, um, and I walked in and this dude comes up from doing some cocaine and he only had one eye, I remember. And I was like, I thought like in my head I was like oh fuck. I wonder if he like hit it so hard. He just like sucked his eye back into his head

Starting point is 00:26:10 Like that's what part of my brain was and I was kind of scared and I was like young and they were all older But then yeah We started doing some cocaine and the guy had a bunch of free oranges there because he uh, I guess had some an oranges nearby or something and Yeah, I remember eating oranges and doing some blow and then, uh, yeah, so obviously pretty sad. And you'd thank God. We'd be like, Hey, this is such a lame experience. You're not going to want to do this.

Starting point is 00:26:41 But then it just, like, I don't know, there was times, yeah, I don't want to romanticize it too much because I don't want somebody going was times, I don't want to romanticize it too much because I don't want somebody going out there and just getting rid of their family right now. But it's like, um. Yeah, there's some kid out there right now gathering oranges. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:53 I gotta do this. Things are gonna change. But yeah, then it just like, sometimes it was fun. I mean, if you were involved in like sex or hooking up with a, it just added excitement. It had like a dangerous element, you know. That kind of shit was fun. I mean, if you were involved in like sex or hooking up with a woman, it just added excitement. It had like a dangerous element, you know? That kind of shit was fun. There's some famous comedy duos out there

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Starting point is 00:30:19 The first time I ever did it, I was fucking 13. Damn. I know, I know. Sorry, but that's crazy. Yeah, and I. Who had it? This girl from my school, she had it. And fuck, what a fucking trip, man. That shit was wild.

Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And you know, you immediately, you do all the shit that you heard, you're not supposed to do. Like, dude, whatever you do, don't look in the mirror. Right. Where's the mirror? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:31:00 And you're like, ah! You know, doing all the dumb shit. Yeah. Watching your skin fucking kind of breathe a little bit. That shit was always pretty cool. Yeah, dude. I remember fucking, it's a long story,

Starting point is 00:31:16 but towards the end of the night, I had like a, you know that classic Farrah Foster poster? Mm-hmm, the red? With the big nipples ripping through her bathing suit. Mm, yeah. It's a classic Farrah Fawcett poster. Yeah. That's the one, dude.

Starting point is 00:31:33 God, boy. Yeah, that was on my wall by the side of my bed. And I just remember looking over at that and just, I couldn't figure out like, those, how are those nipples that fucking, they're like sausages. And I just stared at them, I don't know why. Yeah, those are- Obsessed. Those fucking NASA hats.

Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah, look. I mean, those bitches are fucking, those are obsessed. Those fucking NASA hats. Yeah, look. I mean, those bitches are fucking, those things are taking the, hey, the turkey's done, brother. Yeah, full on. God damn. Yeah. Wow.

Starting point is 00:32:14 Yeah, but that's crazy. Like, was there a point where you started, cause you, once you become like as famous as you guys have, have become in your lives, you get to meet all the hottest chicks, dude. Yeah, you kind of do. And was that weird? Like if you get to meet the hottest chicks, you're like, holy shit, these are the hottest chicks.

Starting point is 00:32:34 You know, it's weird. Cause it's, it's definitely, I can easily tell you what it's like not getting to meet those chicks, right? Like I can meet some chicks, right? I mean, like, but if you're like, dang, that's the hottest chick, you know? And then you're just there talking to them. You know, that had to be crazy.

Starting point is 00:32:54 Or will you go with chicks even early on in your life? Um, not really. Not really. It's kind of a kind of a, kind of like, like, like more like loner-y. Like I'm just like, you know, go, I couldn't wait to get out of school and go home and play my drums in the garage.

Starting point is 00:33:17 Oh, okay. Even if it was by yourself. I was, yeah. Like I, I wasn't like really chasing skirt, you know? Yeah. Yeah. until later. Dude, what about your first kiss? Do you remember it or no? I do, dude.

Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah. I don't know what it is about this, but it was the most romantic, most, at least in my eyes. Yeah. Fuck, I don't even know. It was this little girl down the street. We used to play all the time, we were friends. I think it was probably five. Oh damn, you're gonna say 15.

Starting point is 00:33:59 No. I was like, god, I'm a fucking late bloomer. Yeah, dude. Five. Whoa, loneromer. Yeah, dude. Five. Whoa, late loner boy. Yeah, like five. And we were playing like hide and seek or something in front yard.

Starting point is 00:34:14 And I was looking for her, and she was around behind these bushes. And these bushes, they had a bunch of these little red berries on there and I don't know what the fuck came over me I was like I picked a berry and I put it I said let's kiss and I put the berry in between our lips and I don't know what that was supposed to signify or what that meant, but I don't know. I grabbed a berry and I just thought it would be the coolest thing ever to put a berry between our lips.

Starting point is 00:34:55 And she did it. And we did it and I'll never forget that shit for the rest of my life. Kind of romantic really. It's weird. Yeah, definitely weird. Dude. In my eyes, it was like, I was like, I'd grown up. I was like, Whoa, I just did it.

Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah. Did the thing. On to the next thing. Yeah. Like, I don't know what the berries would suppose. I think it's also as well. It's kind of a bait thing.

Starting point is 00:35:23 It could be like the apple from like the Bible or something. You know, who knows? You don't know what little fables get in your head. It could have been like from that thing where they got the two animals eating the spaghetti or something, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or it could have been like, you know, for all I know,

Starting point is 00:35:42 maybe there was some danger in there, like this is poisonous. Oh yeah, a little bit of Romeo I know, maybe there was some danger in there. Like this is poisonous. Oh yeah, a little bit of Romeo and Juliet. But we're gonna pull this off. Like, you know, we're above the poison. I don't know, like. Let's take a risk here together. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:56 Ooh, I like that. You in? Here's a five milligram berry. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe that's what they thought, like. Maybe that's what my mind was,

Starting point is 00:36:06 cause they're having. Kind of a romantic, you think, growing up a little bit? Full on. Yeah. Full on, dude, just a sucker. A sucker for a woman that showed you attention kind of thing? Well, just like, just a sucker for like surprise,

Starting point is 00:36:22 for, you know, just romance. The chase, the, you know, yeah, sure. Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah, dude. I remember seeing a girl one time for the first time. I mean, I'd seen my sisters, but they were kind of whatever, you know? Um, but I remember, I remember just like,

Starting point is 00:36:42 we were on, I was on like, what was it, a vacation or something, but somebody had driven us somewhere. And I remember. I remember just like we're on a, I was on like, what was it, a vacation or something, but somebody had driven us somewhere. And I remember. You were with your sisters? No, I, I, well, I'd seen my sisters or whatever, but it never, you know, I'd never had any like, you know, that I'd never looked at them, obviously

Starting point is 00:36:55 like as girls, I guess, really. Oh yeah. But then. They're more like your, your bros. Yeah. They're just like my brothers with like tits that I'll never see, you know, which is fine. Which is fine. Cause that's how God wants it.

Starting point is 00:37:07 You know? I mean, if God wanted you to see your sister's tits, he'd have made them your cousin. That's what my uncle used to say all the time, but he was a fucking weirdo. And he's, he's going to be, I mean, I don't know if he's doing fine or whatever, whatever. But I remember, dude, I went to Dallas or Houston or somewhere. I don't know. It might've just been across town, but I went by this river and I was just getting something from this, picking up rocks or just doing some things that

Starting point is 00:37:30 kids do or something, trying to step on a temple. And I looked over and there was like a girl there and her family might've been like 20 feet away. I don't know, but in my mind, it was just me and her and we was like, yeah. And I was like, what? Yeah. And then I was like, what? Whoa. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, she, yeah, I've went into some negative place, but it

Starting point is 00:37:49 was just magical, man. It was the first time I'd just seen like a girl and then when I got a little older. Or my baby. Did you kiss this girl? Or no, I just looked at her. Just like, oh my God. Wow.

Starting point is 00:38:00 What is it? Yeah. What is that? Yeah. It felt like, I felt like a net, like a, like someone who was explored, like, like Christopher Columbus and I just landed on a new land.

Starting point is 00:38:08 It was like, I just never, I was like, oh, this is so different looking at her. Yeah. What is this? Where am I? And then I, my babysitter gave me a ride to summer camp on time. This was like when I was probably a 10 or 11.

Starting point is 00:38:22 And she reached over and put the seatbelt on me. And it was like the first time I'd had like a one, like a woman, kind of like, I think she when I was probably a 10 or 11 and she reached over and put the seatbelt on me. And it was like the first time I'd had like a one, like a woman kind of like, I think caringly do something for me. It felt like she turned on Bon Jovi. Oh, I was like, I just want her to play Bon Jovi a million times. And I kept taking my seatbelt off and she

Starting point is 00:38:40 would put it back on. And I was like, this is fucking living. My seatbelt came off. Yeah, dude. Oh, every time. Just put your hand near my dick. Again, please bump up against it. I love it, dude.

Starting point is 00:38:57 That was pretty. So yeah, some of that stuff like, yeah, all that young, I loved all of that energy, man. That shit was crazy. Yeah, dude, I'm trying to think of like, what other skills did you have before you started playing tunes and stuff? Wait, wait, I wanna know about your first kiss. Okay, my first kiss, dude, somebody.

Starting point is 00:39:18 They had this girl in her neighborhood with that kind of a bit of a chipped tooth kind of. She looked kind of like Lloyd Christmas, remember from that movie? I don't know. Like, yeah, like uh yeah yeah there he is right there Lloyd Christmas okay she had a little bit of that no way dude like he's got a real pitch he she a full split no she's got kind of a sandwich no zoom in more on that grill piece there daddy see how it's kind of got that sand wedge going?

Starting point is 00:39:46 The notch out? Yeah. She had a little bit more of a pitch and wedge. It was a little bit more there than Jim Carrey has here. But some kids locked us in a room and made us kiss each other. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Some kids locked you two in a room. And said, you guys better fucking kiss each other or you're not coming out.

Starting point is 00:40:05 And I think one of them called us f**ks and everyone was like, whoa. What? At least, hold on, dude, well. All right, let us figure it out a little. But it was just fucking, you know, just older me and kids during the summer, just bored, you know?

Starting point is 00:40:20 Oh no, so this is a bad experience. Oh, it was kind of bad, yeah. I didn't even think about that. It was kind of bad, yeah. Oh, f**k. And then I think after that, I think, oh dude, this is a bad experience. Oh, it was kind of bad. Yeah. I didn't even think about that. It was kind of bad. Yeah. Oh, fuck. And then I think after that, I think, oh dude, I never thought about it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:40:28 After that, I was always so nervous around. I was like super nervous around them. Oh, wow. But you know, you figure it out and that's part of your deal, you know? Yeah. Yeah. You figure it out and that's part of your deal.

Starting point is 00:40:41 Um, yeah. Was it hard for you to like be in love since your life is going that fast? Like what was that like? Difficult. Cause like, I just always say like long distance love is just, it's extremely fucking difficult to keep a relationship

Starting point is 00:41:05 when you're Constantly fucking going. It's yeah, it's nearly impossible like you know yeah You know to end to be successful at it for a few years here in a few years there Pretty rare did you have any your marriage? You've been married a few times. Yeah. Yeah. Did you have any that, uh, you felt like you had to go back and make an amends to or something like that? Are you still on good speaking terms with your ex wives and stuff? Or is it? Yeah, well, I'm cool with all of them.

Starting point is 00:41:34 We're cool. Um, you know, it's all good. Did any of it happen so fast? You're like, gee, I don't even know what happened. Cause I can only imagine this to see your life. Like a lot of it just felt like it went so,? You're like, gee, I don't even know what happened. Cause I can only imagine this to your life. Like a lot of it just felt like it went so, cause it just, you know, things get going fast. Like my life sometimes gets a little fast.

Starting point is 00:41:51 I'm like, I don't even know what's going on anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shit flies, man. Um, when you spend most of your time just hanging on, you're like, dude, fuck, slow down. What is happening here?

Starting point is 00:42:07 Yeah. Yeah. Was it, what were your parents like? Were they pretty proud of you and stuff? Or what was that kind of relationship like with them? Was it weird becoming famous and stuff? And then like. You know what, they were super, super supportive.

Starting point is 00:42:25 I guess, you know, I'm really lucky. Both of them were extremely fucking supportive. You know, I... Go ahead. No, I think, yeah, because I think sometimes it's like... I don't know, sometimes there's a weird thing about fame or popularity where it's like you almost feel like you don't belong. Sometimes there's a weird thing about fame where it's like, or popularity, where it's like, you almost feel like you don't belong to you or anyone

Starting point is 00:42:48 anymore, a little bit like, does that make any sense to you? Like there's so much you out there that you just belong to everybody. Yeah. I don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, no, I, I, I see. And we should have never talked, you know, neither of us knows what we're saying. Yeah, no, I, I, I see. Man, we should have never talked, you know, neither one of us knows what we're saying.

Starting point is 00:43:07 Those guys are on some other shit, bro. They'll, they'll rewind and catch up later. Don't be the mustard catch up. Well, that's the fucking dumbest joke. That's awesome. I love that one. Don't be the mustard catch up. Dude, my favorite joke I ever heard is what's the fucking dumbest joke. That's awesome. I love that. Don't be the mustard catch up with my favorite joke I ever heard is

Starting point is 00:43:28 What's the last thing you want to hear when you're giving a blowjob to Willie Nelson? Oh I'm not Willie Nelson. Oh dude, oh dude That'd be the worst to be given a blowjob to Willie fucking Nelson, bro. Dude. And he's like, I'm not Willie Nelson. Who the fuck are you, dude?

Starting point is 00:43:56 Oh my god. Jesus, dude. Dude, what did I... Oh, I read somewhere that you used to do ballerining when you were young, did you? Is that true? Yeah, dude. Um, Do you remember it? Taps, tap dancing and ballet. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:44:12 Um, I do remember it and, uh, I mean, the shit was cool, you know, like- Tap dancing is still pretty fucking cool, I think. Tap dancing was fucking rad because you're essentially making fucking beats. Yeah, you're basically drumming with your feet. You know, it's rhythmic and it was right up my alley. I loved it. And then my sister was taking ballet

Starting point is 00:44:41 and I went one time and I was like, and it's fucking loaded with fucking just beautiful girls. And immediately I'm like, Oh, I want to do this. Yeah. So I go right into both tap dancing and ballet. And then that day happened when, you know, it was like time for the big recital and your

Starting point is 00:45:01 pictures in the paper, the local paper. And I'm in fucking tights, dancing with this beautiful girl. But nobody saw that. And the next day at school, man, it was just like, dude, you are a, what are you, a f***? Like, what the f***? And I quit, I quit dancing the f***ing next day.

Starting point is 00:45:22 I was just like, I couldn't handle the peer pressure. But I'm like, wait a second. All my friends at school are calling me, you know, fucking gay, but I'm like, you all are fucking spanking each other in the locker room and whipping each other with towels. Like, I don't know where you're getting the gay shit from because I'm here with these girls This is what's happening over here fuck you guys. I can't believe I quit. So that's why I let them fucking I let them

Starting point is 00:45:57 Dictate it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, so many kids do I couldn't handle the peer pressure, man Dude, if you did on ballet with a dip in though, they would have fucking came around The peer pressure, man. Dude, if you'd have done ballet with a dip in though, they would have fucking came around, I bet. That would have been it, dude. If you'd have put a fucking big third baseman's chew in your mouth, dude, they'd have been like, this motherfucker's rockin', dude.

Starting point is 00:46:14 That's what I should have done. It is so true, yeah. It was like, so much was dictated by what the neighborhood kids felt, man. And the easiest thing for somebody to do is to call you a bitch, call you a f***head, call you a pussy, just something to like, kind of shut you down.

Starting point is 00:46:27 It's kind of crazy. That's how so much of art like gets kind of really stymied. But I think in your condition, it seems like that, like the rhythm found a way out of your f***ing body was like, oh, it's got to come out of here. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:37 You know? Absolutely, man. It's like, yeah, it's going to come out of my hands or my wiener eventually too. Yeah. That, that thing even had a pay-per-view, but, um, dude, I love this, bro. When I was a kid, you know what I used to watch, dude? I won't even lie about it.

Starting point is 00:46:52 Surely temple movies, dude. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Bro, I'll tell you the craziest story, dude. I went in and it was like one of the first auditions I ever got when I got to LA. They're like, all right, you need to sing a song for us, dude? And I swear to God, and I think I just been on something where I've been

Starting point is 00:47:10 watching some fucking s temple dude. And, um, dude, I gotta see this. And I sang his fucking some song from some things she did. And these people looked at me like, God, this is just something's uncomfortable here. Even them, even they were like liberal probably. And they were all closeted or re-closeted or whatever. It'd been like, you know, they were probably, you know, whatever sexual.

Starting point is 00:47:38 It was an audition, right? Yeah. And they're just like, we need you to sing now. Oh dude. And I just sang a damn Shirley Temple song, dude No fucking way What the hell were you auditioning for? And fuck them bro, that's what y'all get

Starting point is 00:47:55 Y'all don't want to fuck with some real shit. Y'all ain't getting any more of it, dawg So that's that dude, but yeah, so you went in there, you think also to meet the ladies, huh? Oh, hands down, hands down. I went in and watched my sister and in her class there was, I was just like, oh, what am I doing? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:48:16 Why am I not here? Yeah. I want to be doing this. Yeah, dude. Oh, that's the best, man. Yeah. Um, what about your first time having sex? Do you ever remembered it or no? First, dude. Oh, that's a vest, man. Yeah. Um, what about your first time having sex? Do you ever remember it or no?

Starting point is 00:48:27 First, yes. Oh yeah. Was it exciting or scary, do you think? It was, it was both. Yeah, it was all, it was everything, you know? Like all kinds of crazy shit. Was it a surprise or was it planned? Going down for the first time.

Starting point is 00:48:49 I guess it was, I guess it was kind of planned. Yeah. Um, it was with my next door neighbor. Yeah, damn dude, you didn't even. Brenda. You couldn't walk down the street without somebody trying to fuck you. Uh-huh. Oh my God.

Starting point is 00:49:02 God, dude. I, I, I. Brenda. Brenda. Oh my God. God dude. Brenda. Brenda. Wow. Yeah. I can say the first name, right? Totally, dude.

Starting point is 00:49:12 And dude, and it was my, we're talking about my sister earlier, my sister's best friend, like best friend. I bring Brenda into my dad built like a room inside like a bomb shelter of the garage like a soundproof room where I could play drums really and not like bum him out yeah totally so I had this like little little box inside the garage, little soundproof room, and it was like my fucking fort. And I was like, oh man, I really like this chick.

Starting point is 00:49:53 I wanna fucking bang this girl. And so I brought her into my spot and turned the lights out. Out completely? Was it completely dark? Yeah. Wow. Completely dark. brought her into my like spot and turned the lights out. Out completely, was it completely dark? Yeah. Wow. Completely dark.

Starting point is 00:50:11 I don't know why. Gosh man. But. It's adventurous. Yeah. And we're fucking going at it. There's all that weird shit that's happening and you're like, whoa, this feels crazy.

Starting point is 00:50:25 What's going on? What's happening? She's, you know, all the feelings are going and my fucking sister walks in and I'm fucking her best friend. And she just goes, ah! And she runs and tells my mom and my parents and we're- Did they come in the room then? And she runs and tells my mom and my parents.

Starting point is 00:50:47 And we're- Did they come in the room then? Everybody's in trouble. We get put on restriction. We're not allowed to see each other. Like it was a great and terrible experience. Cause Romeo and Juliet almost, cause you couldn't see each other anymore. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:51:04 And we could see each other from our bedrooms. No. And we just, I just be like, Hey, Hey. I'm a dreamer. Yeah, dude. That's all I'm saying. I swear out of a fucking movie. Oh, sweetie.

Starting point is 00:51:19 I really, really just came into my fuck just seeing the kids just waving. Yeah, dude. Gosh. Yeah. Kind kind of it was both it was all of it yeah Do you remember your first? Yeah, dude. I got caught into some bullshit in town and Oh, well, dude, the crazy the first time I tried to get a BJ, right? So there was this girl who was doing BJs, right? Oh, and she was like the funniest girl in town. Like she always made me laugh and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:51:49 And, and she and I liked each other. Oh, cool. And then, uh, but she had like seen somebody else or something. And then she had started doing BJs and I was like, but then, and then she liked me and I was like, Oh my God, dude, what if I'm the guy who like gets a BJ amongst our people? I was like, I just don't even know if I can handle that. Like people being like, yeah, it was the BJ or whatever. Oh, you're getting fucking BJs now.

Starting point is 00:52:15 You little pussy, just shit like that. You know what I'm saying? This fucking, yeah, like you just can never win with humans. Right. And so people suck. Oh, it's unbelievable. Like you just can never win with humans, right? And so- People suck. Oh, it's unbelievable, huh? And so I remember like, it was some girl's birthday party

Starting point is 00:52:33 and we had planned to go meet behind a tree, right? And so she went over there and the tree she picked, it was a pretty narrow tree, right? And so she was gonna, I was gonna receive the BJ right behind the tree, right? So we go back there, we're kinda talking and it's fucking so, like, all my fucking blood is literally like,

Starting point is 00:52:54 it's kind of hiding from my penis. And my blood's like, when do we go? Send us in, you know? And I was like, stay up here, we gotta talk, we're good. You know? And I'm like scoping things out, and it was like a dog, here. We got to talk. We're good. And I'm like scoping things out. And it was like a dog, like fucking in the distance, just, you know, just under a lamp light or whatever.

Starting point is 00:53:11 And there's some kids you can hear playing games and it's a birthday. And then she just starts BJing me, dude. And I'm like, and I'm so nervous, bro, because I always would get super nervous around women when I was young. And then the girl's mom comes out. Oh no.

Starting point is 00:53:29 And the tree wasn't that wide and I could just imagine, I could see what the mom was seeing. She was seeing like me kind of standing like this and the girl like low, but then like, the tree was kind of blocking like the actual act. Oh boy. And I just remember putting my fucking hands up like this And just looking at the mom like I didn't have anything to do like trying to be like

Starting point is 00:53:54 I'm not doing anything Cuz I do like these are the only two hands you can see so like Like but it was that third hand brother that party hand oh my god and you had sex no before this is your first first sexual first sexual really counter dude I touched a girl's tits in the movies one time watching that movie pumpkin head remember that scary movie no it was called pumpkin head it was real scary. Oh boy.

Starting point is 00:54:27 And I touched a girl's breast, and she had very hard breasts. She always kind of built like a fella, really, but pretty cute. And dude, some kid in Pumpkinhead got a hand job. Part of it ejaculated under my fucking arm. This kid, Chad, when I was a kid, forgot about that. No way. Yeah, and he was a kid, forgot about that. No way.

Starting point is 00:54:45 Yeah, and he died in a car accident years later. Oh. What the hell? He was driving, dude, he was changing a CD out of his CD player. He put a CD into his mouth to put the other one in, and he fucking hit something, and it just like... No fucking way. Forgot all about that, man.

Starting point is 00:55:04 It was crazy. Whoa. But yeah, but then I ended up having sex behind a bowling alley in our town, like a couple years after that, like three or four years later. What happened? Okay, what happened? Me and this girl, just like,

Starting point is 00:55:16 she had been having sex and stuff, and I was like, wanted to have sex or whatever. And so we just tried to find a place we could meet up that was like near where we lived. And we went back behind this bowling alley called Tiffany Lane. And I was like wanted to have sex or whatever and so we just tried to find a place we could meet up that was like near Where we lived and we could went back behind this bowling alley called Tiffany Lane's and it's closed for renovations right now, but um It yeah, how do you know that? Oh shit, and my buddies Mary said return to the scene of the crime

Starting point is 00:55:41 Turned to the scene of the crime, dude. He said they're remodeling it. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah, there you go right there. Tiffany Lane's. Look at the Google reviews. Go to Google reviews on there. Tiffany Lane's.

Starting point is 00:55:51 There you go, dude. In Louisiana? Yeah, pretty awesome, dude. Whoa, dude. Oh, I'm here because of the Yvonne who lost something precious at this bowling alley so long ago. Oh my god, dude.

Starting point is 00:56:03 But that's kind of crazy. So yeah, I'm excited that they are redoing it. Um, I'll go back, you know, but yes, kids were throwing rocks at us and stuff too, dude. It was crazy. Wow. And so, yeah, it was hard to keep an erection with like rocks coming, like rocks, you know,

Starting point is 00:56:18 hitting off a sheet metal and stuff like that. But I was just so young that nothing could stop you, you know? Yeah. And then I remember, yeah, I went into some girl's bedroom in my neighborhood and I, she seemed like an adult because she smoked cigarettes and she seemed like she was 40.

Starting point is 00:56:36 You know, she was one year older, but just cause she smoked and she smelled like cigarettes I was like, oh. Older woman. Yeah. Yeah. And, um. Oh shit.

Starting point is 00:56:44 And that was crazy. And then, yeah, but right when we started hookup, I was so nervous, I couldn woman. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, and that was, and then yeah, but right when we started hookup, I was so nervous, I couldn't get an erection. And then her mom thankfully came and busted in on us. Oh, geez. Oh, and I was saved. Oh, I was like, this has got to stop.

Starting point is 00:56:55 I just yelled, I said what the mom was going to say. I thought maybe if I said what she was going to say, like it would adjust the date, whatever, you know, I was like, this has got gotta stop. I was like, I like this guy. I think that's where I was at, you know?

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Starting point is 00:58:42 and you can deny this, but, it doesn't matter either, but you used to, you would go on dates with women, you would get paid to go on dates with women. Yes. Was that a real thing that happened in your life? Yes, yes. And do you have to have like a overseer for that,

Starting point is 00:58:56 like a pimp or something for it? There was this lady that was in our apartment complex, she was like a madame. She was like a madam. Yeah. And she was, she's running, you know, uh, her, her thing and, uh, yeah, get paid to go out with these older women and just, just sit there and have dinner with them. Or if they wanted to fuck, do that too. Um, did that for about a year or so, but a

Starting point is 00:59:31 year or two. Was there good money in it? Yeah. It's kind of crazy. And that was in LA? I was a hooker. Yeah. Kind of, I guess.

Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. A male escort. I don't know. Hooker's better I think. What the fuck's the dip? Yeah. A male escort? I don't know. Hooker's better, I think. What the fuck's the dip? Yeah. Hooker sounds like you don't have

Starting point is 00:59:48 insurance, but you're still going to do it. Male escort sounds like you're at least applying for some sort of like government aid with it. I feel like. The one may be referred to as a male escort jiggle-o, it says, I'm referred to as a male escort jiggle-o, applying female customers, rent boy, hustler.

Starting point is 01:00:04 Do you remember any of the dates or not? Yeah, sure. Was it embarrassing or were you prideful about it? Well, if the lady was like an older lady where you're like, well, I hope this is just dinner, you know. Yeah. You're stoked. Right.

Starting point is 01:00:28 You're like, ah, you're like start coughing a little or. Yeah. Just, I just going to have dinner and drinks and just entertain her. Yeah. Say my wiener's broken or something. And that's it. You know? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:00:39 You'd get stoked when that would happen. But sometimes they wanted more. Yeah. And sometimes they wanted more and you're like, oh man, that's, that part's not fun because, um, I don't know, like fucking when you're not into it is a weird, is a weird thing.

Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah. It's like kind of like when you have to dance at a wedding, but you know, they're going to get divorced or whatever. Oh dude. You're like, ah, all right, I'll go out there. It's like kind of like when you have to dance at a wedding, but you know they're going to get divorced or whatever. Dude. You're like, ah, all right, I'll go out there. One song.

Starting point is 01:01:12 Okay, fine. Yeah, yeah. That's tough. Oh my God. Dude. Fuck man. Sometimes you get some hot chicks though. Yeah, sometimes. Sure.

Starting point is 01:01:24 Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, dude. Sure. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah dude, one time there was a casting director and I invited her to see a comedy show, right? And so, cause I was like, oh, she's going to maybe show, but she was also really cool. We kind of hit it off. So we were kind of like friends and, but there wasn't a, the place I invited her, I had the night wrong.

Starting point is 01:01:39 And so she came anyway. And then, so we're just, she's like, we walk upstairs to where the show's gonna be. It was over on La Cienega or La Brea, Room 5, this place is called. And it's not there and I'm like, what? She came and I'm like, I was like, well, let me at least get you dinner, you know? And so we sit downstairs, we're eating.

Starting point is 01:01:59 She gives me like half of a weed cookie. I'd never had a weed cookie before. So I ate it and like 20 minutes later, dude, I didn't know. I, I didn't know if this was my wife. I didn't know who this person was. I was like, am I fucking married and we're out to dinner right now. And it's our anniversary. I couldn't figure out what was going on.

Starting point is 01:02:18 Wow. And, um, fuck you tried to get her. What's that? I tried to kiss her, you know, like I'm having a beautiful time with you tonight or something. She's like, what in the fuck is going on? Oh my God. Not your wife.

Starting point is 01:02:34 Whoa. Oh, that was horrible, bro. And then I laid in my bed for two days. I missed my birthday because I was so high, dude. Jesus. Oh, that was bad. Oh my god dude. When y'all started traveling and getting drugs and stuff, was it hard to have sex on drugs though?

Starting point is 01:02:51 Like, I don't see how you could do drugs and screw, you know? Yeah, I was, like with, like, with what you said earlier, I'd end up just going back to my room, my hotel room, mostly by myself. Really? As soon as you start fucking doing cocaine, I'm like, I'd rather just party with me tonight. Yeah. You know, I don't have to listen to any bullshit,

Starting point is 01:03:19 I don't have to lie. Oh, yeah. Just me and you are gonna get, we're gonna go really fast in this room and hang out. Yeah. You do that a lot. The second, yeah, I would just, I'd rather just be by myself. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:35 And get all. I wonder what that is. Yeah, I don't know. I would get real self-conscious of all this doing coke around other people too, I think. It wasn't fun that much for me. Oh. I knew I just wanted to do more coke. I didn't really want to hear about whatever was happening with your life that much.

Starting point is 01:03:53 Yeah. We call it lying powder. Because let's get together and fucking sit around and lie to each other for a couple hours. Why not? You know, like, you know, you're sitting there and you're making, and you're doing blow with a bunch of people and all of a sudden you're making all these plans. Yeah, tomorrow, man, we're gonna fucking, we're gonna go on the fucking lake, we're gonna fucking water, wakeboard and fuck, whatever.

Starting point is 01:04:20 And it never happens. Never. You just, you know, yeah. So I don't want to get together and just lie to each other. I'd rather just go back to my room and fuck those chicks, you know. Another time. Yeah. In the future. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:04:40 Yeah. Yeah, dude. Oh, cocaine. Well, it'll make you give your email address to a dolphin, dude. It just. Well, it'll make you give your email address to a dolphin, dude It just fucking it's your fucking telep. You'll be like, yeah, let's keep it. Let's holler each other We're gonna fucking and he's like Email me you're like what is even the morning you're like who the fuck is this? Oh my god Stay away from me. that would be scary. How bad was it like when addiction hit you guys as banned and stuff was that pretty crazy? Yeah dude when it when you hear stories

Starting point is 01:05:16 about it you know you see like you know in the documentaries and stuff you see you know and you read about different stories of people going through it and I know you've gone through it, but like how, was that one of the things that had the biggest effect on a band? Yeah. Like when, when, when you're, you know, you're looking around and you're seeing the guys in

Starting point is 01:05:39 your band, everybody's this close from not, not waking up again, you know, that kind of shit. And you've reached a level of like, doing crazy shit. Like, when you're shooting fucking Jack Daniels in your arm because you ran out of heroin, when you could just drink the fucking Jack and be like, arm because you ran out of heroin, when you could just drink the fucking Jack

Starting point is 01:06:09 and be like, oh, and just fucking drink. We're out of heroin, but I mean, if we shoot it, it'll be fucking better. It's just alcohol. Like, when you're doing dumb shit like that, we're like, I think it's... Someone's gonna die here soon. Like, we should all... And we did it as a band. We were like, you know, we'd take handfuls

Starting point is 01:06:28 of fucking halcyons they were called and then we'd fucking go out for the night. But these are all fucking like downers and sleeping pills. So like who does that? We're doing such dumb, dangerous shit that everybody was like, all right, that's it. We're all going to do this together. And we just, it was like 89.

Starting point is 01:06:53 We all went to fucking rehab. Together? To different rehabs, but, um, but yeah. Where'd you go? Which one? Uh, I went to this place called cottonwood. Oh, in Tucson? Yeah, dude.

Starting point is 01:07:09 Yeah, dude. Retarded, dude. Yeah. Shout out to Sunday. I still live in Tucson. Out in the middle of nowhere, dude. Right. That's where I did my first Coke with those guys, with the oranges.

Starting point is 01:07:20 Dude. Yes. Yeah. Oh yeah. Tucson is the first place I saw a school bus. Somebody had cut the top off of it and was fucking driving it, dude. Yes. Yeah. Oh yeah. Tucson is the first place I saw a school bus. Somebody had cut the top off of it and was driving it, dude. That's Tucson.

Starting point is 01:07:30 Bear down, dude. In the desert, dude. Yeah. Oh yeah, bro. That's people. Oh, you'll do some coke and just eat somebody's ass through a dream catcher out there. A lot of Zodiac killers and missing people out

Starting point is 01:07:47 there, dude, it is. Oh, you're praying to see the next street light out there because sometimes it's like far distance between the street lights out there. Yes. Was that scary the first time you went or what was that like? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:58 I got to be here. Yeah. No, I'm no, I wanted, you know, I'm sure it's very different to someone who doesn't want to be there. We were all, everybody wanted to. You're like the only way we can do it is to actually go somewhere. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:08:09 Yeah. To actually go somewhere. And if we all do it together, our chances of fucking survival are going to be a lot better. Yeah. You know, like, you know, sometimes you just need a fucking bro, you know, to be doing it with you. Oh yeah.

Starting point is 01:08:23 Just to fucking, you know what I mean? So all of us did it together and we were like, oh fuck, we be doing it with you. Oh yeah. Just fucking, you know what I mean? So all of us did it together and we were like, oh fuck, we can pull this, we can do anything. Yeah. You know, it's cool. And was it fancy?

Starting point is 01:08:34 Was it a fancier one kind of? No, no, it's just a regular kind of rehab. It's one kind of cool thing about rehab. You can go to them and it's just kind of like a mix of all types of people. Fucking wild, right? Oh, they're totally wild. I went to just, uh.

Starting point is 01:08:48 You're hearing other people's stories going like, you know, maybe I'm not that bad. You're talking yourself into fucking like bail and rehab. Fuck. These people are fucked up. Let me out of here.

Starting point is 01:09:02 You're like, I could be mayor in a month. Fuck. We haven't even got the family day yet. These people are fucked up. Let me out of here. You're like, I could be mayor in a month. They're in this fucking community. These people are fucked. Fuck, we haven't even got the family day yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is nuts. Yeah, having a bro in it is the biggest thing, man. I got a couple buddies in Nashville and here too. It's like having some boys in and it's like,

Starting point is 01:09:19 just so you can check in with each other. You keep rocking for each other. And being sober is nice, you know? it's nice, but it's hard. Yeah. But man, it is really nice, man. Everything just is so much fucking easier and so much, I don't know, just less drama, dude. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:40 Less drama. Yeah, and you can just wake up and be like, okay, I can do this today. Yeah. You know, you're not having to sleep like, okay, I can do this today. Yeah. You're not having to sleep in, hide, pray for Gatorade or whatever. Pray for Gatorade. God, dude. That was all that kind of shit was the worst.

Starting point is 01:09:54 Oh my God. Was there ever a show where you guys just couldn't even go on because you were too fucked up or no? No, never. That's unbelievable to me. Yeah. That is pretty wild because we'd get pretty fucked up before the show. But not fucked up enough to where you couldn't, you know, to where you couldn't fucking bring it,

Starting point is 01:10:16 you know? Because if you, I don't know. Well, y'all's songs, that's one thing I was thinking about was you guys, your music was high energy. So it was like some groups, they groups, there's different, you know, but you guys were, I mean, everyone, it almost starts out with the riff, even some of the ballads. So you're like, God, you had to be able to show up for it.

Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah, you can't, and yeah, especially like drumming, dude, that shit's so fucking physical. If you are feeling, or if you're fucked up, and drums are just doesn't work. Really? It just doesn't work. You got, you're the fucking, you're the fucking heartbeat of the machine. Yeah. And if you are fucked up, this whole program's fucked up. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:01 You know, that's, so you'd, you have to keep it together enough. I mean, there's times where you have, you know, had a little too much and you're thinking, oh man, I'm fucking smoking right now. I'm crushing the shit. And you fucking watch a videotape back and you're like, what the fuck was that, dude? Okay. Now, now you know you can't do that. Yeah. Because that's fucked up. But you're thinking you're just murdering. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:32 That's happened a few times. And then you go, okay. That doesn't work. Yeah, that doesn't work. Yeah. Yeah, because in the dirt, there's a lot of stuff where you guys are just partying so hard.

Starting point is 01:11:43 I mean, obviously they do that for cameras, you know, or for films, and they make it look cool. Yeah. But did you feel cool about the dirt there's a lot of stuff where you guys are just partying so hard I mean obviously they do that for cameras, you know or for films and to make it look cool Yeah, did you feel cool about the dirt dude? I was so pumped because it's so raw and so fucking real and I Can't believe they smashed everything into an hour and a half. That's a lot. Yeah, they should have made it 10 episodes. That's it could have been a fucking mini series. Like, you know, like, um, but to get that amount of stuff, uh, in there, um, is just beyond.

Starting point is 01:12:17 And it was fucking awesome. I loved it, man. Yeah. It's, it's really well- MGK crushed it as you too. He played you, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah. He did a great job. He played you, didn't he? Yeah. Yeah, he did a great job.

Starting point is 01:12:26 He did, dude. He was so fucking, he was so. I don't think you had enough credit for that really, when I think back on that. Yeah. He did a great job. He did an unbelievable job. Like I've never seen somebody take so much,

Starting point is 01:12:41 I've known him, I've known him for a while. And he calls me up and Dave goes, bro, I got the fucking part. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes, dude, I'm fucking playing you. I go, what? He goes, yeah, dude, he goes, I got the fucking script. I'm coming over and we're gonna go through this bitch line by line,

Starting point is 01:13:06 and I wanna know how shit really happened, because I gotta pull this off, and I wanna make you proud, I wanna fucking murder this shit. Oh, that's cool. He goes, and it's just such a trip, because we're kind of the same build, the same kind of fucking lanky, goofy fucking, you know, and he came over, dude, and we spent hours, hours, days

Starting point is 01:13:37 going over everything because he wanted to fucking rip it. He was like, I gotta fucking nail this. And he did. Yeah, he fucking killed it. Yeah. I remember there being kind of moments where like he was like, I gotta fucking nail this. And he did. Yeah, he fucking killed it. Yeah. He killed it. I remember there being kind of moments where I'd be like, damn, that's MGK, and he's fucking killing it.

Starting point is 01:13:53 Only every now and then would you kind of think that it was him. Yeah, I guess films and stuff like that, they just, yeah, that's hard to do, to put everything in the 90 minutes. Is it hard for you to even remember some of what went on? You know what? Yes and that that that movie was about the book and the the dirt book um

Starting point is 01:14:17 They said it's pretty true to form a lot of it. I think yes, it's it's it's identical But but to answer your question, I didn't, you know, thank God the other guys remembered shit, and vice versa, we all kind of reminded each other of things because shit's fuzzy for me about this or that time, or you know, depending on what people were going through at the time, people remember or don't quite remember. Yeah. So it was really that process of

Starting point is 01:14:46 writing the book, uh, individually, everybody kind of did their interviews and you know, later you find out, oh, fuck, that's right. You know, that, that's a cool feeling. Yeah, that's cool. Um, it's like, oh man. Yeah, it's almost like a time capsule kind of. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:02 Yeah. And it's neat to have somebody else there to help you remember too. Yes. That's really the cool, cool gift of it. Cause it's so hard to sometimes just, yeah. Yeah. There's so much that's, that has happened.

Starting point is 01:15:15 It would be almost impossible, especially for us fucking retards to like remember all of it. Yeah. Oh dude. Come on. Unbelievable. Yeah. And a lot of it life, a touring life is you just kind of get ready enough

Starting point is 01:15:26 to walk on a stage the next month, you know. Yeah. It's not a ton to it really. It's like you go somewhere, you get, maybe you go out to eat if you're there for two days. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Or you go see one thing. If you're in the town the next day, like if you're in Cleveland, you go to like the

Starting point is 01:15:41 rock hall of fame, you go do something. But otherwise it's just like, you're just getting yourself acclimated, just whatever you have to do to get yourself ready to get on stage. Yeah. And then you're out. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:15:52 That's so weird, dude. I tell people all the time I go, I've been around the world a fucking hundred times and I've seen nothing. That's crazy. Literally. Like a meteor really. It hasn't landed. Literally. Like a meteor really. It hasn't landed.

Starting point is 01:16:05 Yeah. Every fucking arena, stadium, bus, hotel room, like that's pretty much it. You know? Yeah. Frankfurt, what? Rotterdam, what? How do you know?

Starting point is 01:16:17 Yeah. You're like. So arena with a building with a lot of seats in it and a lot of people and repeat that a bunch of places. And you're like, I really haven't seen much. When you started to get more free time about it. Like, Oh yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:35 Oh dude. I've seen nothing. Honestly. Oh, sometimes one of my dreams is to get married and have a wife and get a camper and just kind of go around and see even places where I've been. You know, here's the thing. There's no way you can't sound like the dumbest fucking person in your wife. Cause you're like, but you were here.

Starting point is 01:16:54 You're like, yeah, I was. You were here already. Yeah. No, but that's cool. Like I'll do that. Like on the tour bus on a day off, I refuse to fucking go to a hotel. I'm like, we're taking the bus and we're going to a lake and we're fucking spending the fucking

Starting point is 01:17:12 barbecues out. Like we're going to have something different. We're going to break the repetition here and go see something. And live, be human. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:24 It's funny. You kind Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. You kind of give your, yeah, once you become busy enough, you become the business, you know? Yeah. And a part of being you, you almost get so little time to be yourself. Does that make any sense, man? Wow.

Starting point is 01:17:37 You just nailed it. Yeah, man. You just fucking nailed it. Sometimes I even miss myself, which is fucking really weird. That's, that's a good thing, man. I mean even miss myself, which is fucking really weird. That's a, that's a good thing, man. I mean. Well, it's good to be successful.

Starting point is 01:17:48 No, it's good to have the opportunities and you know, it's a blessing for sure. It's cool that you're connected enough to realize that you miss yourself. Even miss yourself. You're like, fuck man. It's just, yeah, it's just, it's all interesting. The most interesting thing is just to be able

Starting point is 01:18:03 to have the experience of what it's like to have some popularity or to be in certain spaces. It's just, just to even be a fly, cause you're a fly on the wall, but you're you. And you're like, oh, this is just interesting to be here. Um, yeah, definitely. Was it hard?

Starting point is 01:18:18 Cause I know you got a couple of children. You have two. I got two boys. Two boys. And it was it hard to decide to start a family when your life was like, so when you have two. I got two boys. Two boys. And was it hard to decide to start a family when your life was like so, when you have such a light, like was it hard, like. No, I always wanted one, man.

Starting point is 01:18:32 I've always been that kind of like, you know, fucking sucker for romance, having a family, you know, like that whole kind of, kind of milk and cookies thing. Yeah. I've always, always liked, you know, so yeah, it was something that I definitely wanted, you know. Did it just kind of become a certain age? You're like, I kind of have to do it now.

Starting point is 01:18:58 Did the clock ever start to kind of tick for you a little? Did you ever feel like? Um, I don't know. I think maybe, I think it was just don't know, I think maybe. I think it was just right place, right time, right, a lot of things have to be right for that to happen, but just happy it happened, man. Yeah, that's a good point, too.

Starting point is 01:19:20 I got some fucking amazing boys who are just a dream. What's something neat about each one of your kids that you really admire? Something neat about them? Or something that you admire about each one of them? They have some incredible resilience. They're brought up in a lot of not normal situations for them. And they've done really fucking well

Starting point is 01:19:51 with just navigating, you know, like... So they're great. How are they different than each other? I think I've met one of them. They're... Dylan is the youngest on the right. I've called him little Buddha since like, since he was born. He's just like the reverse of his brother,

Starting point is 01:20:18 who's more like me, Brandon. It's hell yeah. Yeah, he hit the, the dude flipping the camera off. That guy. Yeah, I'll be sponsoring him in a couple years. He's more hyper and kind of crazy like me. So they're completely opposite, which is great. Cause I got like, I got one of each.

Starting point is 01:20:34 Yeah, you got a yin and yang going. Yeah, dude. That's cool. Is it really cool being a dad? Like what was something about that really surprised you, you think over time since you've had the experience? I don't think there's a better feeling in the world, as a matter of fact, I know there isn't,

Starting point is 01:20:52 of having your kids musically, okay? Just imagine a musician like myself, and all of a sudden I'm in the studio working on a song with my son. And that's going down. And my other son, who loves music as well, everybody's just like, everybody's in the mix. And I'm like, I'm gonna start fucking crying right now

Starting point is 01:21:25 because this is the coolest shit fucking ever. Oh, it's cool. Ever. Like dude, you know what I mean? Yeah, I can feel it. You know when your kids grow up, some are nothing like their parents and others are, but to have them both just like really gravitate towards music and acting, Brandon's been doing is just,

Starting point is 01:21:48 there's nothing better, you know what I mean? I bet, especially if that's, cause that's like almost all the things you love right there in one space, music and your two sons. Yes. So to have that mixed together, that would be super cool. It's insane, man. And then, you know, and we're sitting there and, yeah, it's incredible.

Starting point is 01:22:10 Well, yeah, I mean, you were, I mean, you sang on some songs, but you weren't the lead singer, huh? Vince is the lead singer, you guys are the band. Yeah, Vince sings. But some songs you sing on. Yeah, I sing. Your mom hates it when you leave six half-full glasses on your nightstand. It's a good thing mom lives on the other side of the country. And it's an even better thing that you can get six IKEA 365 plus glasses for just $9.99.

Starting point is 01:22:35 So go ahead, you can afford to hoard because IKEA is priced for student life. Shop everything you need for back to School at IKEA today. I mean, I typically sing. I play guitar, piano, drums, kind of do produce, you know. How much pressure do you realize over time? How much extra pressure is on a lead singer? A lot. That's not easy, man. It's not easy.

Starting point is 01:23:00 Because they have to do almost extra work a lot of times it feels like too, like. Taking care of the shit, you know, and if you're doing it every night, you gotta you know, it's like it's like it's a muscle, you know Yeah, you got to take care of it. Yeah, what else in that? I'm trying to think of the time Oh, what about the part in the dirt where Ozzy snorts that piss? Is that true? They just made that up full-on true Fuck I know people ask that all the time. They're like, dude, really? I'm like, apps a fucking lully. You can't make that shit up. Yeah, to rip a line of fucking piss.

Starting point is 01:23:30 There's my buddy Tony Cavallaro that played him, dude. Dude, he was so high. Yeah. Oh, Ozzy was? All of us right here. We had just come, we had just been on an overnight bus ride and Ozzy rode with us. So we're all, and we're doing rails the whole way. No one slept, everyone just drink.

Starting point is 01:23:51 So we're at the hotel and no one wanted to go to their room and we wanted to still keep partying. So we go, let's go to the fucking pool. We go to the pool and at that time, it was just kind of a thing. Everybody was into like out rock star and out grossing somebody out, like out partying. You know, like, no, dude.

Starting point is 01:24:17 So Ozzy starts, Ozzy's wasted. He sees there's a little trail of ants going all the way to this kid's popsicle that he left on the ground. Right. Yeah. And Ozzy looks down and fucking just snorts the whole, the line of ants going to the popsicle and, and, and Nicky's like, okay, well fuck that. So Nicky pulls his dick out at the pool.

Starting point is 01:24:43 This, everybody's, this is a hotel. This is like the fourth seasons, I think, in Dallas. Some fucked up, people, kids, everything. Nicky goes, I fucked up. Watch this. Nicky goes to pee on the ground, and Nicky's going to lick up his own piss to outdo Ozzy. Oh, yeah, he got it. Recycling.

Starting point is 01:25:03 And before Nicky could do it, Ozzy fucking beats him to it and looks up his piss. And then we're like, all right, Ozzy, you win. You win, dude. Nap time. Yeah. And then dude, what they don't show in the movie there is I, Ozzy's tour manager goes, dude, Ozzy's fucking on one. You're responsible for him. Here's his hotel room key. Fuck. I'm done. Ozzy's tour manager goes, dude, Ozzy's fucking on one.

Starting point is 01:25:26 You're responsible for him. Here's his hotel room key. Fuck, I'm done. I can't deal with this anymore. I'm like, oh, I got him. Cool, I'll take him to his room. So anyway, after we get kicked out of the pool area for all that bullshit, they don't really go into it in the movie.

Starting point is 01:25:42 I get, I'm like, come on, Oz, we gotta, we're getting kicked out. We gotta take you up to your room. He goes, I get, I'm like, come on, Oz, we gotta, we're getting kicked out. We gotta take you up to your room. He goes, all right, my, I put him, we get in the elevator, we're going up, and he, and there's people in the fucking elevator, and he pulls his pants down, and he just starts fucking. Ugh!

Starting point is 01:26:00 He's gonna shit. He's shitting, I'm like, Ozzy, dude, no! Fuck! Don't shit. Don't, not, dude, no. And he's like, ah. We get to the floor, I'm like, come on, I'm just trying to get him to his fucking room, close the door, and like, let him, he just needs to go to bed.

Starting point is 01:26:21 Yeah. So I take his room key, fucking open it up, open, like push the door open. I'm like, OK, buddy. See you later. And he's like, he goes, come here. I'm like, I'm going to go. He's like, no, you come here.

Starting point is 01:26:37 I go in, and now he's going to finish. He just starts shitting in the middle of the room. Oh, wow. He bends down, picks it up, and starts painting the walls with his shit. I'm like, ugh. I'm like, I gotta go, dude. And I fucking bailed,

Starting point is 01:26:53 and I don't know what happened after that, but they don't show that part in the movie just like he had to shit. Aw, dude. Yeah, but if you gotta shit, dude, you gotta find other ways to, you know. Like, bro, just wait till you get to the toilet. Yeah, that's the best way. Yeah, but he you got a shit, you got to find other ways to, you know, like bro, just wait till you get to the toilet. Yeah, that's the best way.

Starting point is 01:27:07 Yeah. But he wanted to like, everybody was just on this, like, I got to out. Yeah. Fucking whatever. I'm an animal. I'm going to paint with my shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:17 Everybody's fucking. I'm an animal. Yeah. Everybody's fucking Pablo shit. Casso all of a sudden. That's wicked, dude. Dude, I got to piss. You do? Yeah. Go piss real sudden. That's wicked, dude. Dude, I gotta piss. You do?

Starting point is 01:27:26 Go piss real quick. It's tough, man. It's kind of weird, because sometimes you don't really pick who you love, I feel like. Like you can have an idea of like, oh, I'm gonna be in love with this, or this girl looks this way,

Starting point is 01:27:37 or in that time of track. But then sometimes it's like, you'll just kind of just be in love with something. You're like, oh, this is is I'm in love over here you know Yeah, make any sense you think the first thing that comes to mind is like best friendship like You know like I think that I think that has to happen before the before the love I don't For yeah for me. It's like I don't know what think, it's like, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:28:05 Well, I think especially you learn that as you grow, as we get older, sometimes some of that stuff we learn as we grow too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'd make choices before, sometimes in my life, you'd be like, oh, this and this or, but you have to have a best friend that you're like, all right, every now and then you're like, all right, I'll fuck my best friend, you know? But if it's just the best friend,

Starting point is 01:28:25 then after a while you're like, oh, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I just got to find, I got to get rid of this best friend so I can fuck a little, you know, I think so it's like, you got to kind of find that middle ground, you know, I think, you know. Um, cause you've been married a few times

Starting point is 01:28:39 in your life. Yup. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and what have you like, and now you're married now to a comedian. Yup. Brittany Ferland, that's your wife. Yup. And she Yeah. And what have you like, and now you're married now to a comedian. Yup. Brittany Ferland, that's your wife.

Starting point is 01:28:48 Yup, yup. And she's always charming. She made this necklace for me too, speaking of charms. Yeah. And this is a little Marlboro. It's cool, man. Yeah, she's fucking rad. She's funny.

Starting point is 01:29:02 Yeah, she's, dude, like I got, my face hurts. You know, we were just, and that's the best friend shit I'm talking about. Like we've laughed all the fucking time, um, cause we're both silly. Yeah. We don't take everything so fucking seriously. And like, I don't know, we just have fucking fun,

Starting point is 01:29:28 you know, and it's, that's a beautiful thing. Is, um, what's the longest relationship that you've been in? Right now, I think it might be me and Brittany because we're just, we're just clocking in at over seven years. Jesus, really? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:29:44 And the longest time I was ever married was for seven years. So when we're, we're past that now, which is wild, man, I'm like, okay, this is definitely. It's a real thing. The third time's a charm. Here comes that silly line. And how many times have you been married?

Starting point is 01:30:02 Fuck. Well, technically four, or sorry, technically three, but four times. The first one got a nold, so that doesn't count. And what does a nold mean? What people just disagree over the ref says no or whatever. I guess it's kind of like the ref says no. You just weren't married long enough.

Starting point is 01:30:18 Oh. It was like literally, I think maybe a couple of weeks after getting married, it was like, ah, this ain't working. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they think maybe a couple of weeks after getting married. It was like, this ain't working. Yeah. And they should have a thing where a month later, your friends get to send a ballot kind of, and it's like, yeah, something like that.

Starting point is 01:30:36 Oh, so your friends can know it too. Like now she, she ain't cool, man. Or she's got to go. She just took my best friend. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you know, your friends go, they, a lot of them go. They're good.

Starting point is 01:30:48 Yeah. They disappear. Yeah. They just disappear. Once they get married. Yeah. Well, you know, and if you get married to somebody they don't like. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:30:55 And that, yeah. Wow. You know how that works. Have you ever been married? No, I never been married. I want to get married though. I think my career started kind of blooming late in life kind of, or like later, you know? And so it's been like.

Starting point is 01:31:06 I have no time for that right now. It's been hard. And it's tough to even tell girls. It's like, you know, right now, you know, like, or if there's something that starts to build and then I'm out of town and then I come back in town and like, now where were we? And then, and then you meet, you know, and then

Starting point is 01:31:19 you start to feel bad that people are like holding out hopes and you're the one who's kind of like, you don't want to keep somebody's hopes up. Fucking... Duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh Well, I know I'm going to be out of town pretty much a lot for the next year. So I just have to tell you right now that this is just how things are. And if we don't both work pretty hard at this, then it's, it's going to be tough. Yeah, dude.

Starting point is 01:31:54 The reality. And love, I think there's love, like, it's kind of a hands on fucking thing, you know? Yeah, it's work. I mean, you have to nurture and. It's a of a hands on fucking thing, you know? Yeah, it's work. I mean, you have to nurture and. It's a bonsai. It's like, it's funny, our therapist says that all the time, like all that work that you put

Starting point is 01:32:16 on in, on those trees, it's, that same kind of work goes into your partner. Yeah, cause it's, well, it's funny, even when you and Brittany came in today, it seems like, and I've seen you guys at the comedy clubs and stuff together, it really does seem like you guys enjoy being around each other, you know? Yeah. It seems funny. You guys are like, fucking yeah, like, kind of goofy. And she has a lot of energy and it's kind of nice probably then too to like,

Starting point is 01:32:42 because you've had so much energy in your life where it's like, um, you don't have to always be the voltage, you know? Well perceived, dude. It's nice. Yeah, isn't it? Go crazy, baby. Go crazy. Yeah, you're like, this is the part of me that's just, it's not, it's still there, but it's just fucking, it's had a lot of damage. You can entertain me, sure. Yeah. I had to outsource some of them.

Starting point is 01:33:07 No. Like I found a part of me that I really like in someone else and that's really cool. You know, that's pretty, that's, that's more of a neat way to say it. Yeah, it is cool, man. It is beautiful. That's awesome, dude.

Starting point is 01:33:18 I think I finally got it right, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Actually, I know I got it right. Yeah. Cool. It's good, I know I got it right. Yeah. Cool. It's good. That's cool, man.

Starting point is 01:33:28 Feels nice to say that. Did you ever get to meet Michael Landon before or no? No. Little house on the prairie guy? Yeah. No. He was a, he got all the ladies, bro, I heard. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:33:43 He has a sick ass or did have a sick ass house in Malibu, like back in the cut Malibu, like the, I don't know what you call that area, some gated. What about Michael Jackson? Did you ever get to meet him? I did. Really?

Starting point is 01:34:01 One time, dude. Wow. At the MTV Awards. I was presenting. I did. Really? One time, dude. Wow. At the MTV awards. I was presenting. When was it 2007? No, was it seven or was it earlier than that? You've been to a bunch of them. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:15 Man, the date's fuzzy, but dude. Yeah, I met him once, man, and I was so bugged out. The date's fuzzy. That should be the title of your autobiography. What? The dates fuzzy. The dates fuzzy. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:31 Yeah. Because it kind of pertains to just a timeline and dating and everything, you know? Yeah. But anyway, what am I fucking scripting your life? I'm not writing that shit. And the fact that I'm geographically challenged, I still don't know where the fuck, you know, like,

Starting point is 01:34:47 like I was trying to tell somebody, like where were you this week? And I was like, I was in Minot, the like South Dakota, North Dakota, fuck I don't know, like, like I just, you know, I'll break down in tears at the airport sometimes, just because I'm like, I don't know where I'm at. Because, you know, like if I travel alone,

Starting point is 01:35:09 especially because I'm used to a fucking tour manager. Okay, we go here, we go there, we go... And man, dude, I can't tell you, there's several times where I've been traveling alone where I'll just stop and grown man just start crying. Yeah. I don't know where I'm at. Fuck. Fuck.

Starting point is 01:35:30 Where's the smoking lounge? Well, it is true. I mean, it's part of having that much people around you and support and stuff. You turn into a little bit of a child that does an activity. Dude. That is it.

Starting point is 01:35:45 Absolutely, absolutely. Get this fucking child to the stage, have him do his activity. Do his activity. And then he's gonna ask, where's dinner? Dude. Where do I sleep? I just learned how to send a fucking FedEx package

Starting point is 01:35:59 a few years ago. I didn't know how to do it. I looked, what do you do do you just FedEx where is FedEx do I take it there do they come get like how does it work yeah do they know you want to say something like how does this all fill in dude like just because everybody does everything for you yeah so long and through all those like kind of fuck and some of it that's the way that some of that gets set up it's not Everybody does everything for you for so long and through all those, like, kinda, fuck. And some of it, that's the way that some of that gets set up.

Starting point is 01:36:28 It's not you necessarily outsourcing your life. It's that those things get put in place around you so you don't have to worry about that or worry about anything because part of the business is you are the business and so you have to be the business. You don't have to be the mail room of the business and that starts to fall on somebody

Starting point is 01:36:45 else's shoulders. Yeah. It's not like you saying, oh, I'm not going to send my own mail. Yeah, no. It's just, that's the way things work out. Yeah. Isn't that bizarre?

Starting point is 01:36:54 Um. And the whole time you don't learn anything, you're just like, I'm relearning things that I should have learned a long time ago. Oh, whoa dude. Oh, I'm a late bloomer, dude. I'm like, I'm learning shit I should have learned a long time ago. Oh, whoa dude. Oh, I'm a late bloomer, dude. I'm like, I'm learning shit I should have learned at five or six years old.

Starting point is 01:37:10 How to do proper handshakes. I mean, I remember, dude, I was such a late learner on so many things. I'm like, dear. Oh, fuck. Oh yeah. It was just fucking nightmare. Well, um, have you and your wife taken a lot of trips?

Starting point is 01:37:27 We have. She doesn't like to go on a lot of trips. So, but we have taken a lot. And actually, is there a place you guys like to go? She's terrified of fucking going anywhere She she fucking had like a dude I've scheduled Or booked like just the most beautiful fucking spots like winter fucking Cabins on the lake like you know and had to cancel him because there's no hospital within a

Starting point is 01:38:05 Couple hours. Yeah. You know, like that kind of shit or like remote Bora Bora or like just beautiful places we've gone to, but some had to cancel, some trying to get her to go anywhere is really difficult. But you know, but we have, we have. Well, it's nice also if you're having a good time just to be at home too. but you know, but we have, we have. Well, and it's nice also if you're having a good time

Starting point is 01:38:26 just to be at home too. We're building a house right now and been working on it for fuck, for three years. Oh, that's awesome. We've built a place that doesn't require vacations. Like I'm making my house so fucking rad that I don't really need to go anywhere. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:38:47 And for her too, she doesn't, she's gonna never have to go anywhere because she's gonna be like, oh, this is fucking rad. Like this is sick as shit ever. Yeah, where's the front desk? I'm on vacation. Yeah, that's sick. Yeah, so.

Starting point is 01:38:59 Oh, that's a neat idea. So I, I, I, hopefully I've fixed that problem for her, but, because she doesn't dig traveling at all. Wow, it's kind of nice. It probably saves you some loot too. Yeah, maybe. Do you guys keep animals at the house?

Starting point is 01:39:13 Have you been an animal guy? Yeah, dude. I've been a dog guy for a long time. We got two wieners. How big is a wiener dog? Is it like big is a wiener, though? Is it like little? A wiener about this little? Oh, I know.

Starting point is 01:39:30 I'm gonna just let the camera. About this little, about that thick. And if you had to compare it to your actual wiener, who wins, you think? To an actual wiener? To your actual wiener. You're the guy with the wiener. The rest of us are just kind of milling around in the area.

Starting point is 01:39:44 Right, right. You know what I'm saying? to your actual, you're the guy with the wiener. The rest of us are just kind of milling around in the area. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? The rest of us are just kind of fucking loitering, dude. You're the fucking fire truck, you know? We're the guy running with the pail of water. You know what I'm saying? So, oh damn, now this shit is getting a little,

Starting point is 01:39:59 that shit's beautiful, but that's getting a little crazy, dude. That's teeny the weenie. And where was this at, dude? was this at a PF Chang's? Dude, where is this? That's at my old house, um, in, uh, Calabasas. Oh, that is pretty cute. Yeah. We must've just got her.

Starting point is 01:40:16 Oh yeah. You can tell she's a little bit bigger now. I think you saw her earlier. Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah. Some of this looks. She's teeny dude.

Starting point is 01:40:25 Very illegal, but also cute. Yeah, so fucking cute. Yeah, little dogs is nice. Do you ever own a parrot, any other animals? We've had a couple birds. Haven't had great luck with birds. Yeah. But.

Starting point is 01:40:44 One time we went, I went to Vietnam, right? And so you go there, I was a student and then get dropped off and the taxis, whenever you show up there, the first place they take you, you could say anything. I want to go to this. I want to go to a museum. I want to go to the.

Starting point is 01:40:56 Where was this? In Vietnam. Oh, you've been there? Yeah. So you go and you said the first thing, I was a student and we were like, we want to go to this museum, whatever this like something, but no matter where you say they take you to hookers

Starting point is 01:41:08 or whatever, you can say anyone wanna go to McDonald's, they take you to fucking McPussies, right? We got it. Yeah, so we find get out of this museum, it's one story and it's a pet shop. It's like, we're like, what the fuck is it? And everybody speaks yet to me, so you don't know what's going on.

Starting point is 01:41:24 I walk inside, a couple birds, a couple, I don't know, it was cats or whatever. It was kind of vague. And then these ladies come out of the back and topless, right? So we're like, oh, what the fuck? Look at Pet Shop. A topless pet shop?

Starting point is 01:41:38 Yeah, dude. Like, damn, dude. Yeah, that Bichon ate that lady's bra, you know? Jesus. So next thing you know, we're in the back and they're trying to jerk everybody off and just get seed out of everybody. And Jesus.

Starting point is 01:41:50 And I got super nervous because they had us all in the same room. And I was like, I don't even speak of the language. I'm like looking at, they have a picture menu. I'm like kind of looking at that and trying to negotiate rates or whatever. Oh no. Yeah dude.

Starting point is 01:42:03 I will get 30% off some fucking tits if I can. Right. So I'm like trying to see what the different options are. Anyway, I get really freaked out because one of my buddies starts getting a blow job. It's just all right. It's just right there. And it's crazy. You can hear the animals.

Starting point is 01:42:17 Oh dude. And it's just really crazy. And, uh, and one of the parents kept saying like pervy shit, you know, like, you know, we're like, come, come. Oh no. Come papa. Oh my God. And so it was just like, what the fuck is it, man?

Starting point is 01:42:32 But yeah, I've never really been a pet owner, I guess that's kind of, that's the closest thing I've really been a part of. Except I slept in bed with a girl one time in a Great Dane. Oh shit. Yeah, and she made it sleep right between us. And I was like, this feels kind of gay, dude.

Starting point is 01:42:48 He was big, dude, and black. Yeah, they're fucking people-sized. Yeah, dude, he was big. Like, he definitely played Juco Ball somewhere. Like, this thing was fucking huge, you know? They take like horse-sized shits. Yeah, I'm not dealing with that, dude. Giant. Yeah. No, dude'm not dealing with that. Giant.

Starting point is 01:43:05 Yeah. No, dude, that ain't cool. What was the first pet you ever had? First pet was a monkey. My dad brought a monkey from Thailand. Wow. Yeah. That's the first pet. And was it in a box or how'd y'all keep it?

Starting point is 01:43:23 It was outside in a cage, like a, my dad, he built the cage. He's fucking built everything. He built a cage and, um, that's where he lived, but that's where he'd sleep at night. But he basically was, had little diapers on and would just fucking rip it around the house all day. And he'd party.

Starting point is 01:43:44 Oh dude. Wow. Wow. Party. Maybe that's where you learned some of it. That, yeah. What the fuck? Like, this thing can fucking rock. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:43:53 So fun. So fun, man. And how did it pass away? It had a heat lamp outside. And we had a fucking, it got really, really cold and we had a power outage and the fucking heat lamp went off and he fucking, in the morning he was dead. I think we had like, he froze to death, like I don't know how he died but we had like, he froze to death. Like, I don't know how he died, but we had like really shitty, super cold weather. I think it actually even maybe snowed.

Starting point is 01:44:34 What town was it in? In Covina. Oh, out here. Yeah, that's where I grew up. Wow, damn, it's a bummer. Yeah. You think of, dude, 99 out of 100 times, you think a monkey would survive a

Starting point is 01:44:45 night in Covina. Yeah. I mean, it's not like extreme here at all. You know. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. My apartment is on the street where, who was

Starting point is 01:44:57 the guy from Jane's Addiction? The guy who wears the kind of the makeup, handsome guy. Dave Navarro? Yeah. Where his mom got murdered on the same street. Oh shit. It was kind of crazy.

Starting point is 01:45:07 Oh, whoa. That's where you lived at? I lived just down the street from there. Oh. Yeah. Oh, whoa, cool. Um, dude, who else? One time I went to Perry Farrell's house for

Starting point is 01:45:16 a one year old's birthday, somebody fucking invited. Really? Yeah. And it was just there. And, um, I'm just walking around and then there he shows, it was just, you know, sometimes nice houses to let people, friends have their birthday party, kid's was just there and I'm just walking around and then there he shows I it was just you know, it's not as nice houses to let people friends have their birthday party kids birthdays there Uh-huh. I fucking relapsed at a one-year-old birthday party, dude. Oh my

Starting point is 01:45:38 What Does that even happen God is good, dude I don't know how it happens, but we just keep it moving and it was, it was what it was, man. Whoa. I didn't expect to. That's why I went. I was like, Oh, I'm definitely, I'm going to go to a place I can't get in. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:45:52 Yeah. And then you have a couple of wines or whatever, and then it's just. It was just bad. At a one year old birthday party. What, uh, did you ever get to meet Marilyn Manson? Oh yeah. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah. That was my first concert.

Starting point is 01:46:13 He's a fucking, he's a, he's a fucking great guy. Yeah, I really, he really interesting things about him. Kat Von D is close with him and she speaks a lot about him. Yeah. You know, or she mentions him a lot, you know. Yeah. He's, he's a, he's a fucking, he's funny, man. Was there, oh, that's you and him. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:46:31 Oh, that's cool. He has a good sense of humor? Oh, yeah, dude. He's fucking, he's definitely, he's a fucking tweaker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's actually.

Starting point is 01:46:43 BYO blinds, huh? Yeah, yeah, he's fucking wild. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's actually. B.Y.O. blinds, huh? Yeah, yeah, he's fucking wild. He turned me on to some fucking, man, this crazy, we drank a fucking shitload of this absinthe in Europe, that was his thing, his absinthe, and showed me, like, I don't know, I'd seen this shit called Green Fairy or whatever, it's green, but he had some other, some other, I started hallucinating on the shit.

Starting point is 01:47:17 If you drink enough of it, you start to slightly hallucinate and it was purple colored. And it's an alcohol as well. Yeah. It's, it's full on alcohol. Strong as fuck. Hmm. Um, yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:34 And you drink the shit on fire. Like you light the sugar cubes and the sugar melts into the absinthe. Oh, it's a whole, like a ritual thing. Yeah. Yeah. Ritualistic. I like that. Yeah. It's dark. I could see a whole, like a ritual thing. Yeah. Yeah. Ritualistic. I like that.

Starting point is 01:47:45 Yeah, it's dark. I could see him getting into some ritualistic shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absinthe really make you hallucinate. Absinthe, the liquor is a combination of

Starting point is 01:47:54 spirits and herbs, mainly fennel and anise, and a type of warm wood called artemisia absintheum. Um, that's what it's named after Van Gogh and Picasso were big fans of Absinthe back in the day, along with other artists. Some believe that Absinthe-induced hallucinations partly inspired some of their greatest works. Wow.

Starting point is 01:48:13 Right? Do you look at bands nowadays, cause you guys fucking rocked. You guys were almost like the industrial era. It's back when you actually had to actually make the fucking sounds, you know? Like now it's like, you don't to actually make the fucking sounds, you know? Oh. Like now it's like, you don't have to make the sounds anymore. The sounds are all programmed or whatever.

Starting point is 01:48:29 You guys had to actually fucking go out there and make them, you know? Make them, record them. Yeah. Do you look at band, I mean, you look at N.Sing or like Rascal 5, you're like, what the fuck is even going on here? Not them specifically, but do you ever look at modern band? You're like, this is. Yeah, I hear, I mean, yeah, I hear it. What the fuck is even going on here? Not them specifically, but do you ever look at modern band? You're like, this is.

Starting point is 01:48:50 Yeah, I hear, I mean, yeah, I hear it all the time. Are you disappointed in how music has evolved or is just this is what it is and it's like you're fortunate the time you got to be in? Do you ever get jealous of the time that people have? Like, you know, not that you're still not making a lot of music and that, but it's like, you guys are still the ones who let's go out there and fuck and you know. Yeah, you know what dude, I guess the good thing is,

Starting point is 01:49:10 I'm such a fan of so many styles of music that I enjoy all of it. So whether you make it raw and live off the floor or make beats, you know, or play, you know, record in the box in the computer and edit. I've done it all different ways, so I really, I just like good music. I don't really care how it was made.

Starting point is 01:49:37 So, yeah, it doesn't really, it doesn't bug me, you know, like I don't go like, ah, this shit today sucks. Yeah. Because there's some really great stuff, and yeah, it doesn't bug me. You know, like I don't go like, ah, this shit today sucks. Yeah. Because there's some really great stuff and yeah, there's some shitty stuff. Yeah. But I do like so many different styles. I'm kind of all over the place

Starting point is 01:49:53 and probably not a good guy to ask that question to. Yeah. Cause I don't know. Are there things that you miss about the rise of things? Like how, when things were starting? Cause sometimes you don't realize when things are popping like in the beginning that that's, that's the moment, you know? You know what I miss more than anything, dude?

Starting point is 01:50:10 I miss the fucking mystery, man. I miss the, you know, like, there's people that I just, I absolutely just think the fucking world of, and it's guys like, who are like, I think they're chameleons, because they're just they're always changing the guys like Prince never did fucking interviews you always wonder like what that guy do the mystique I miss that yeah now we're just

Starting point is 01:50:38 like we know everything about fucking everybody's lives, whether you want to or not. Yeah. And there's just no, like, there's no fucking mystery, man. And that's a big part, I think, of any art, is the mystery of it, you know? Like, what did they fucking... What did that motherfucker eat in the morning? Or like, what...

Starting point is 01:51:03 You know, just like what? All the question marks are gone and, and you don't see that in new music. There's no, you know, I'm not sitting here going like, fuck, I gotta, I gotta get down to tower records and wait fucking, you know, overnight for this record to drop. That just, God. Oh, that was so true.

Starting point is 01:51:25 It was like, well, even looking back on those magazines and stuff, like, that's how we knew little pieces of shit. That's how you get- It was like Sebastian Bach's head was fucking bleeding. You had no idea why, you didn't know where the picture was. And they told you it too blurry, and you're like, fuck, dude. And it's a still picture.

Starting point is 01:51:42 It's not a video- Oh, no. Documentary on the whole thing. You're like, fuck, dude, we's a still picture. It's not a video documentary on the whole thing. You're like, fuck dude, we gotta see him when he comes here. You know, we're like, what is going on? And then you start making shit up in your head. Yes. And that's where the-

Starting point is 01:51:53 That's where creation came from, where creativity came from. Yes. You came up with how it may have happened. Dude, in waiting outside to get like tickets to something, dude, whether like it was to go see the crew, whether it was to get like tickets to something, dude, whether like it was to go see the crew, whether it was to go see guns and roses, um, uh, Dio,

Starting point is 01:52:11 lock up the wools, like whether it was to go see fucking 311, like you'd have to wait out all night, right? And thankfully some kid would bring like his 11 year old brother and people would get him fucked up for the first time in the parking lot. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:52:32 You'd just be watching this fucking like little fat kid fucking like take off his shirt and fucking eat bugs and shit Oh my god, that would get you from two to four And then somebody would go to the doughnut place and then it would be six nine Yes, hold the line dude, and there was still only five people out there and it had been fine if you came at 9 a.m But now motherfucker we waited all night for tickets. That was something to be said. It was like a badge of honor Yes, you didn't know what happened like even when I saw Mantan and twiggy Ramirez, I think one of him he cut the other guy's stomach or open with a bottle the ambulances came Oh took the guy out of there What just happened dude? Yeah, I remember being in the bathroom

Starting point is 01:53:07 I was like 14 years old some guy goes how old are these kids in here and somebody goes I don't know they look like they're about 14 and somebody's like somebody's gonna touch them tonight Somebody said that and we never even heard that before like what is going on but they took they took the Whoever he caught with the box, and we had no idea what happened. Just your imagination, like where the fuck is he? Yes, dude.

Starting point is 01:53:33 That, I missed that. I missed that, man. I missed it as a possibility kind of. And the other thing along with the mystery is I wish there was less, because there's so much... Dude, I'm a fucking musician, I'm in this business, and if I can't keep up,

Starting point is 01:53:55 how the fuck is just a fan who's not a musician, or just like a fan of music, keep up? If I can't, dude, there's so much fucking music. Fucking dude dude there's so much fucking music fucking dude there is so much fucking music it is insane it would mean your neck would snap off and it's just like it's too much, dude. There's not, there's no place to, I mean, I guess that must, maybe it's the opposite. Maybe there's the thrill of that hunt of trying to find something in the barrage that you're like, dude, I found this out there.

Starting point is 01:54:45 Yeah. Maybe it's reversed and I shouldn't feel bad for people, but that's, there's too much. Too much? Too much. Was there a band that you loved that fell off or that had a singer pass away? Was there anything, was there something in your time

Starting point is 01:55:01 that was a group that you really missed? Oh, fuck man, a few, fuck. Nirvana. Oh yeah, did you guys know them or not? Didn't know them as Nirvana. Just knew the music? Just knew the music, yeah. And later, became friends with Dave Graal

Starting point is 01:55:22 and stuff like that. Oh yeah, I just read his book recently. But yeah, and fucking Soundgarden. Yeah. Fuck, there's been so many, they were a real big influence on me. Fuck. Soundgarden.

Starting point is 01:55:35 Fucking Alice in Chains. Dude, there's been so many great fucking. The man in the box. Yeah, the box. Dude, that was good. That guy. Yeah, bro, when those things came on, when that shit happened, there was something about it

Starting point is 01:55:52 being real, and it was just like, there was this party that started up fuckin' per, dude. Yeah, ACDC, Bon Scott, there's another fuckin' great one, like, dude, nobody sounds like that guy. Uh-uh. So um so yes there's been a lot I've seen yeah fuck yeah bro this dude in our neighborhood this dude

Starting point is 01:56:15 Eddie he got a 5.0 fucking Mustang right and I remember he put two of the most busted chicks who were also the best-looking girls in our neighborhood in it. He made them sit on the back, right? Like, like open, he'd sit on the back trunk, but with their legs inside, right? And you kind of just drive around town. Like it was a parade, you know, because somebody finally had a car and somebody finally had two chicks in it, right? I got to show everybody. Our neighborhood were like, fuck. Yeah, bro. We've all got a chance, dude. Right. And he bought them both daiquiris one time. These girls. Oh God bless them. And he came over and he was just kind of fucking chilling

Starting point is 01:56:52 in the street. And then he played back in black and he fucking floored it. And both of them fucking tumbled right out of the fucking back. And I think he left town, he was so ashamed, just like the fucking amount of shame that people would have for shit. Oh. But God, that was fucking awesome dude. That is, that sounds awesome. Yeah, when the closest you could get to rock and roll

Starting point is 01:57:16 is just some kid in the street was just throwing a fucking rock against a stop sign and hearing that fucking ping, you know? Yes. Like God. Fucking, the doors are rattled because the kids got fucking like, you know, 318s in the trunk.

Starting point is 01:57:32 So rock your five skates or whatever and that bitch is just, the whole cabster just fucking falling, the lights are breaking on the back. Parts are falling off. It's a brand new car, he gets two blocks, he gets pulled over for fucking not having everything. Oh man. It was quite a time, man.

Starting point is 01:57:49 It was the best time. Yeah, dude. You know what? That's, that, that statement right there, that's one of the fucking coolest things ever. When people watch the dirt, that's one of the big, the biggest things I hear from people. They're like, from the younger kids,

Starting point is 01:58:11 they're like, man, is that what it was fucking like? Like, all this shit's real, right? I'm like, yes. And I'm like, they'll never know. And that's what they say. And I'm like, they'll never know. And that's what they say. They're like, we can't even imagine that. You can't do any of that stuff anymore. You guys just fucking, that part,

Starting point is 01:58:43 it's a nice thing to hear, but it also bones me out because that was at a time where anything fucking goes, dude. Anything goes. There's no Instagram or like people with cell phones taking pictures and they're like ratting you out. Anything goes, dude. And the moment had so much value because it was all you had.

Starting point is 01:59:05 Yes. You weren't gonna be able to relive it later. Like maybe you'd get a still image, but the fucking moment. Dude. Now the moment sometimes it's just like, even the moment's like, I'm fucking give up. Yeah. It's like, I can't compete with the repetition of me

Starting point is 01:59:20 that there is out there. That's what I feel like so many times. Yeah, dude. And even storytellers had more value because you had to tell the story, dude. The best thing was I'd go somewhere, nothing would happen. I'd go to school the next day and everything had happened. Yes, yes.

Starting point is 01:59:35 And it was like, fuck yeah, dude. Dude, the moment, bro. Yeah. It was so cool. Right? Right? But. I guess we just gotta keep making those moments. Yeah, we gotta do was so cool. Right? Right? But.

Starting point is 01:59:45 I guess we just gotta keep making those moments. Yeah, we gotta do our best, you know? And you do it by having a new, taking on a new marriage, that's seven years, that's congratulations, man, that's amazing. Oh, thanks, buddy. And building a new house. Yes.

Starting point is 01:59:58 And keep trimming our trees down to keep the shit, what we want that's important to us, like our sons and our music and, um, and keeping alive, uh, all the fucking stories as much as we can, you know, by sitting and talking with people about them. Yes. Um, thank you so much, Tommy.

Starting point is 02:00:15 I appreciate it, man. It's nice to get to know you and, um, thank you for fucking just, yeah. Making me fucking angry at everybody in my fucking neighborhood, dude. I feel- In a fucking awesome way, dude. Yes, girls! Yes, girls!

Starting point is 02:00:29 Dude, I would sing girls and then jerk off and I'd be like, I feel like I was just on a date, you know, like, it was just fucking awesome, dude. We heard girls and we're like, we're gonna get girls, dude. And we never got girls, bro. But we fucking sang that shit, dude. Dude, I fucking love you, man. God, sang that shit dude. Dude, I fucking love you man. God, it was fucking good.

Starting point is 02:00:47 Dude, I, I, thank you for having me, and I look forward to our friendship man. Thanks man, yeah I wanna come and see the trees man. Yeah, for sure dude, for sure. And I love, your wife makes me laugh so much. Her and Brittany Schmidt have a podcast. Bring it up right now. I just want to see it real quick.

Starting point is 02:01:08 So I have to have them come on sometime. Or you having them come over here? Yeah, sometime. Yeah, dude. And when we get it, we need some fucking white bitches in here. All right. And I'm talking about Brittany Schmidt.

Starting point is 02:01:21 I'm not talking about your wife. This is the worst podcast. With Britney Ferlin and Britney Schmitt. Tommy Lee, thank you for everything, dude. Yeah, bro. I hope you stay alive for absolutely ever. Fuck yeah. Likewise. on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this piece of my life out I can

Starting point is 02:01:55 feel it in my bones

This Past Weekend - E522 Tommy Lee

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