This Past Weekend - E537 Miranda Lambert

Episode Date: October 10, 2024

Miranda Lambert is a Grammy award-winning country musician known for her many hits like “Drunk”, “The House That Built Me”, “Little Red Wagon”, and more. Her latest album “Postcards From... Texas” is out now everywhere. Miranda Lambert joins Theo to chat about her journey from playing rodeos to becoming one of the biggest names in country music, meeting Gypsy Rose as a Make-a-Wish kid, and the band she loves that you might not expect. Miranda Lambert: https://www.instagram.com/mirandalambert ------------------------------------------------ Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit  https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ  Boot Barn: Visit http://BootBarn.com and use code THEO to get 15% off one item now through October 30th.  ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: tpwproducer@gmail.com Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Send mail to: This Past Weekend 1906 Glen Echo Rd PO Box #159359 Nashville, TN 37215 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Colin https://instagram.com/colin_reiner Producer: Cam https://www.instagram.com/cam__george/  Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I have some new tour dates to tell you about. This week I'll be in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, La Crosse, Wisconsin, Green Bay, Wisconsin, and Moline, Illinois, Colorado Springs, Casper, Wyoming, Billings, Montana, Missoula, Montana, Bloomington, Indiana, Columbus, Ohio, Champaign, Grand Rapids, Lafayette, Louisiana, and Beaumont, Texas, all tickets through thetheovon.com slash T-O-U-R and thank you for your support. Today's guest is a Grammy award-winning country musician. She has a new album called Postcards from Texas and you know her songs, The House That Built Me, Drunk, January Heart, The List Goes On, Red Wagon.
Starting point is 00:00:51 I'm really grateful today to get to spend time with one of the queens of the country music industry, Ms, Miranda Lambert. I love this. Yeah. I love this. Yeah. I love this. Yeah. I love this. Yeah. I love this. Yeah. Nice to see you today, Miranda Lambert. Hello.
Starting point is 00:01:30 It's an honor. How are you? Well, thanks for having me. Yeah. This cozy little place. It's a pleasure. Yeah, yeah. We, yeah, we try to keep it cozy.
Starting point is 00:01:37 It's nice. Kind of get to, you know, just catch up with folks and see what's going on. I've met your husband a couple times. Yeah, he said that. Y'all are randomly on like two or three planes together. Yeah, we've been on, we're like kind of, I guess air buddies or whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:51 I don't know if there's a term for it or whatever. I love that. Yeah, he said to tell you hi. Oh, I appreciate it. He's golfing. Is he? Priorities, yeah. Yeah, well he's just dang handsome too. That's a thing.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I see that guy and I'm like, God, I gotta get some conditioner or whatever. He is, he's a pretty one. God, he is. He's like a, and he used to be a cop, right? Yep, he's a retired NYPD officer. And did you, you guys ever play cops and robbers or anything like that?
Starting point is 00:02:17 No, but last year or two years ago for Halloween, I wore his uniform and I made him be a donut. And it was awesome. Cause he's super fit and doesn't even eat donuts. And I was like, I'm gonna be a cop and you made him be a donut. And it was awesome. He, cause he's super fit and doesn't even eat donuts. And I was like, I'm going to be a cop and you're going to be a donut. And he was like, that's just cliche. That's stupid. I was like, no, it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:34 He was pouting the whole time. He was like, I don't want to be a donut. Everybody wants to be a donut. Exactly. I can't even imagine not wanting to be a donut. Yeah. I think everybody's always just wanted to sit in a box with 11 of their buddies, you know? Well, it's funny because that whole cliche or whatever,
Starting point is 00:02:54 but I was like, and I was worried I wasn't fitting this uniform, but I did. Oh yeah, I bet. So I was like, we can't fit this uniform, we have bigger issues, it's gonna be a problem. It was fun, my whole family is first responders and so it's his family. So we had that in common right away. Oh, sweet.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Yeah. Did you guys ever, has he ever like tased or anything like that? Or is that a crazy thing? No, no. And he has handcuffs and I'm like, that would be the one time that the key was gone. Like we're not ever doing that. Never is not, it's not going to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:24 We got tased one time. Oh, if you're ever in Shreveport or whatever, and you're, I guess have some free time or whatever, they will, they'll tase you there. The officers there. Yeah. For, yeah, for, there's not a lot to do there, I guess. And, but yeah, they'll do it. I grew up like right, like an hour from Shreveport. Yeah. I used to play over there in little bars and casinos coming up. I actually had my 21st birthday in Shreveport.
Starting point is 00:03:49 No. That's pretty red. Where did you guys go? We had to go to a casino? Yeah, we were at Sam's Town, I think. My grandma was a VIP there because she spends a lot of money on the slots. So she got the limo and all that. And I went with my grandma and her friends for my 21st birthday.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And her friends? Her friends for my 21st birthday. And her friends? Her friends. They're wild though. Yeah. They were wild. Oh yeah, a lot of these seniors now, you can't, well you see them in the pools and everything
Starting point is 00:04:12 and they have those weights and they're just doing it all. Every time I see seniors, they're just getting crazier and crazier. Do they have a senior citizen dating website, I wonder? I don't know, but my granddad would just granddad would just give her like allowance, like stay out of my hair money. And so she would just go blow it at the casino. It was the best.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Was she one of those grandmas that like at the end of the year, they buy, um, all the Christmas gifts and they all say like Sam's town or whatever on the back. And she would always like buy and then wrap them and forget that she did it. You know what I mean? And she would be like, we'd open the presents. She'd be like, I don't, I don't know when I bought that or what it is. Oh yeah, dude. Yeah, they used to tase us over there, man.
Starting point is 00:04:51 That's real weird. Yeah, it was kind of crazy. But I think you can get a taser now. Like you can even get one on Tmoo that also like beats eggs and stuff. Like there's everything, they just have everything now. I don't think I want to be Tast. You know, I'll say this honestly, it wasn't, it was way easier than I thought.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Well, I'm glad you took one for the team. I'm glad that's over with. Settled. So your 21st birthday, you guys went over there. Was that like the biggest city close to you guys? We're right between Dallas and Treeport. So like, I-20, my little hometown, Lindale, Texas, is like the halfway point where you like stop for gas and burger king? You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, so I I was there a lot and Dallas was Dallas was our like city. Oh, yeah Yeah, what was your first job over there? I worked at Bell's Oh My first singing gig. No your first like human job I like my first singing gig? No, your first like human job, like a job. My first big girl job.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Well, I worked at this little department store called Bells for like the Christmas season. They hired me to wrap presents, which I'm terrible at. So then they were like, these presents are terrible. So they put me in the back room to like sort things. And I only lasted two weeks. I was like, I just started singing and playing. I was 17, but I needed like, I was not making any money.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I was like starving musician. And so I would try for that, like, you know, that like holiday season, extra money and realize quickly, like I've got to make the music business work because this is not for me. Cause that's not it. No, it was just not, I wasn't good at anything else. So I was like, yeah, if they put you in the back to sort, that's not even, I know I couldn't even use it.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Well, because someone lady asked me like, does this look good on me? And I told her my truth. I was like, not really. They're like, that's not how it works. You kind of have to lie. I'm like, oh. Yeah, I'm trying to think if I,
Starting point is 00:06:39 well, I used to work at a pizza parlor for a while and we got laid, there were cutbacks there or whatever. And I don't know how there could be cutbacks. It's like there was four of us working there, but I guess they had like cutbacks or whatever. So a couple of us got laid off. But I wonder if I ever worked at a department store. I couldn't work around pizza.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I just, I love it too much. Yeah. Yeah. We had the pizza in. In your town? Yep. And had the salad bar and had little corn dogs on it. And I was really happy about that. They put corn dogs on the salad bar?
Starting point is 00:07:10 I love a salad bar. That's unprecedented. Oh, I love a salad bar. Pizza Hut used to have a great one. You remember? Pizza Hut. It was like Pizza Hut, but like small town brand Pizza Inn. Oh yeah. Pizza Inn. Same thing. Did they throw the pizza in the air or not? No.
Starting point is 00:07:22 No? Nobody knows how to do that. Now I know, I've actually seen it in real time now because my husband is from New York City. Yeah. So I've had like legit pizza now. Yeah. Not pizza in. Oh, we had a place.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I'm trying to think of what it was called. But they had a big window there. And some dude, I think he was a magician, but they gave him like daytime work throwing those pizzas in the air. Because I think it just fit in people's heads. Like, oh, that's magic. And so he- That's hard. Oh, he was, I think he really got the hang of it. And it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:50 People would come from miles around to watch him, you know? You'd see kids just out there just licking lollipops, just staring at him, looking at this dough wizard. Small town entertainment is pretty simple. It's easy to, it's easy to come up with. Oh yeah. Well, when the fair came to town that was always exciting. We could go to the fair a day before and for 50 cents you could, you were kind of a guinea
Starting point is 00:08:11 pig, they didn't tell you that, but it was like come on over and you can do a ride for 50 cents. So we lived right down the street from the fairgrounds so we'd walk down there dude and you would just get rattled, electrocuted. Um, yeah, I don't, I don't trust small town fair rides. Yeah. I just don't. And I think that's probably a wise choice for you. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:33 How you seem like a thrill tracer because you got tased and you ride the 50 cent ride. Like you're just going for it. I've been in some bad relationships. Yeah. Maybe I'm a thrill tracer. You know, I think, yeah, if you stack all those things up. How does a guy, this is news. So how does, cause your husband was just like
Starting point is 00:08:50 a regular police officer, right? How does a regular police officer meet a celebrity comfortably? Do you, is that a weird thing to ask kind of? No, I mean, honestly, like we're kind of from the same fabric. So it was the weirdest part of it all is the language barrier at first, honestly, because he has a New York accent and you hear mine. So it was like any of my Southern phrases, any of the like,
Starting point is 00:09:19 read next step I say, he's like, well, I don't understand what you're saying. So we just met, we met by chance, literally on the street and like, and six years later it worked out. But was there moments where he was like, you know, this is like, cause I feel like if I'm a regular guy, say if I met, you know, Julia Roberts or, trying to think of somebody else,
Starting point is 00:09:40 Queen Elizabeth or something, and I'm trying to date them, I've, I wonder if there'll be moments in my head where I'm like, how do I do this? Like, you know, do I put on a special cologne? Like, how do I, just because there's some- Well, Brandon does wear the polo, like the old school one. Oh, he does? That bottle, oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:55 That green bottle with the little gold cap? The red one. I don't know if I've seen that one. That might be the sport. Yeah, maybe it is. Remember when sport came out? Yeah. Oh, every- Did you ever wear cool water?
Starting point is 00:10:06 Uh, no, I didn't. But I was- Yes, you did. No, some- some of the fancier kids kind of did. Guys that had like game with women wore it. That's why I was like, did you- are you lying? Did you wear the cool water? Say it. I didn't have game with women. I was like- I was always the guy who like would- like would help my buddy open all the valentines like on valentines in school They would have like the key club or whatever would come in and if somebody bought you a valentine They give them all out in the room at the same time So my buddy would get like 11 of them I wouldn't get any but he'd let me like hold a couple of them on my desk Or whatever. Yeah, and it's like hey hold.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Wouldn't it like the one where you give everybody in the class one so everybody feels love? Oh, when we were kids, but when it got into junior high, it got like, okay, somebody had to go. Got real, yeah. Yeah. And you would get him and he would just have a stack of them. He looked like the damn bachelor. You're gonna get so many valentines out,
Starting point is 00:10:57 it's gonna be weird, because you talked about it. That's a good point, huh? Yeah, valentines were nice. My mom would get us like something that she would like leave by our like bed or something in the morning. Like, that was pretty sweet though. But yeah, was there ever a moment where he was just like, where it just seemed like, like he's like, I'm a regular guy and you're a regular person, but then there's always like a,
Starting point is 00:11:20 I think there's a fear in like a regular guy's head of of how you would behave around a celebrity, I guess. I think- Does it make any sense at all? Yeah, and it definitely is an adjustment to just jump into country music world and move to Nashville. I mean, he retired. He was eight years on the department
Starting point is 00:11:38 and he sort of made the choice. We made the choice together of we gotta be together. You gotta trade your gun in for a harmonica or whatever is a big deal. I think, well thank God he didn't because I don't know if he's, he loves music. He's not necessarily musical. He did write a song on my new record. He's a co-writer on a song on my new record. Yeah. I had him write in Darren 2020. We were all doing anything during 2020. Just like bake. Yeah. Oh, if cops are writing songs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Let's write songs. And so we did and he was pretty good. And I guess, cause I mean, growing up in New York city and like being a cop on the street in Times Square, like you have a lot of life lived, you know? And so this record, he has, um, a co-writer on my song called dammit Randy. And he had some of the best lines in the song. Really? Yeah. So he. Oh wait, I had some of the best lines in the song. Really? Yeah, so he-
Starting point is 00:12:26 Oh wait, I've heard that one in a hurricane. That was his line. Nuh-uh. Flying a kite in a hurricane. I was like, dang it. That is a good line. Yeah, it is a good line. But yeah, I think that all the celebrity part out of it,
Starting point is 00:12:40 I don't care about that stuff. So it just made it, we're just real and regular and like like I said both being from first responder families Like we kind of grew up the same. There was some glue places. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do I'm just trying to inspire like regular men out there to think that they could handle it if they met a celebrity Person in that world that they everything could be cool again And you know what? It's like I'm such a big stickler of like don't surround yourself with yes people and so having a husband that's just a regular guy like just Being a cop in New York City and like he come he comes into my world, but he tells me the truth
Starting point is 00:13:17 He like calls me on my shit. He tells me the truth. He doesn't sugarcoat He sees everything for what it is, and I really appreciate that. There's the fact that he's not in my industry at all and just really kind of is a straight shooter. It's such a blessing to have in my life. And so I'm glad that I married somebody that just is that way, that is just a regular blue collar guy
Starting point is 00:13:40 that sort of comes in and enhances my world and speaks a lot of truth into my life. So y'all go, all y'all regular dudes go, go get it. We need you. Yeah, we need you. That's a great call. He also married like a country singer and a horse girl. And so, I mean, he signed up for a lot. Yeah. Cause horse girls are like, we're a different breed. Oh yeah, dude. I just met, I went to a therapy place for like a week and they had horses out there. And one of the therapists like worked with the horses. She was like the horse therapist lady or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:11 It's amazing. Yeah, and so like she had met there hugging this big old horse. I don't think, I don't know what his name was. I've done that too, the equine therapy. It's amazing. I thought it was crazy, but it's really neat. It teaches you so much. Like where they're like, put your hand where you feel like the, put your hand where you feel most drawn to the horse and like immediately put my hand on its heart. Oh, I didn't even know where a horse heart was.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Now that I think about it, like I was like, I don't know where it is in that huge giant chest. You know, pretty cool. Oh, I had to take the horse. I was trying to take his pulse and I had to do with both of my hands like that. Like horses are crazy. They just got like 60 inches of neck on them.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Um, but yeah, it was kind of wild. Cause at first she's like, okay, approach the horse and let it know you're okay. And so then I'm like four feet from this horse. I think his name was knuckles or like mitten or something. And, um, and I'm like, Hey horse, I'm just letting you know I'm here. Like it was almost like meeting an alien because I just never even been around a horse like in that much like proximity,
Starting point is 00:15:11 like just being a horse in a pen. But by the end I got to take the horse for a walk and stuff and I felt like it was cool because at first I was super nervous and as I went along it kind of like, yeah, I kind of like, my idol came down. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:15:27 And that, they're so therapeutic, just being around them in general, but like, they're just majestic creatures. And I heard, I think they can hear your heartbeat from like five miles away or something. Oh my God, perverts. Yeah, that's crazy dude. I mean, that's eavesdropping. I know, but they could sense everything. It's like, they tell you the truth about you
Starting point is 00:15:48 before you even know your own truth. You're like, ah, I didn't grow up around horses. I didn't start until I was 30. And I just wanted to do something that scared me a little. And I always wanted to be with that cowgirl. Like I used to play all the rodeos back in the day and like singing the national anthem in small town rodeos. I love rodeos.
Starting point is 00:16:04 When I was first getting started and all those like flag girls and the barrel racers with all the day and singing the national anthem and small town rodeos. I love rodeos. First getting started and all those like flag girls and the barrel racers with all the glitter and fringe. I wanted to be that so bad. And I chose country music. And so I was like at 30, I was like, I'm gonna be a cowgirl, damn it, I'm gonna do this. And so I started riding for the first time at 30 and now I'm really super into it.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I love it. But I was, I mean, I'm still like, I'm green. I don't know what I'm doing, but I just love having a hobby completely outside of what I do that's challenging and physically challenging. And also it's like not up to you. It's up to them, you know? Oh yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:16:38 It is like, that's the dang Lord's Uber, dude. Being on a horseback. The Lord's Uber. Bro, you get on a horse, it is not, it's like kind of up to you because they give you these little strings. You're like, these strings are not going to do anything against this horse. You know? Like I just saw that pull up on the screen. My, um, my horse, cool.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I started mounted shooting. Oh, his name's cool. His name's cool. And I started mounted shooting last December. So what does that mean? Mounted shooting? So like shooting a revolver with black powder off the back of the horse at a balloon.
Starting point is 00:17:08 It's super fun. It's spectator safe and the horses wear earplugs, just FYI. The horses do? They do, they wear earplugs and the gun has black powder in it. And so you do these patterns and you go like a hundred miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I don't yet, I'm trying to get there. And you shoot at balloons. My friend, Kenda Lonsane, she's like the world champion. And she- Kenda Lonsane, bring her up. She's a badass. Like she has taken me under her wing and taught me so much about it. I've never even heard of this.
Starting point is 00:17:37 So it's called mounted shooting. So you start at- There she is. Let's see that beauty. That's her. She's a beauty. Hey, I'll let her shoot me, that's for sure. She probably would.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Really? She'd probably tase you if you wanted her to. Look, she can shoot me in the belt buckle and see if my pants drop. You know what I'm saying, baby? That's where I'm at, Witter. She's a buckle shiner. She's a, but she's really great at it.
Starting point is 00:17:57 So wait, explain it to me. I've never even heard of this. It's so fun. So you have two revolvers, and you have five shots in each. And you're on the horse. It's a gun belt, you're on the horse, and it's so fun. So you have two revolvers and you have five shots in each. And you're on the horse. It's a gun belt, you're on the horse and it's timed events.
Starting point is 00:18:08 So like come out of the gate and like she does it in like 7.5 seconds, which I'm still learning to ride good enough. So I'm a lot slower. Oh, she's used to a quick shot, I'm in again. Yeah, see, so you're shooting at a pattern of balloons and you're timed on the event and you do five shots and
Starting point is 00:18:26 a gun change. So while you're riding a hundred miles an hour, you're having to shoot, aim, switch your gun, go around a barrel, go around a pattern. Like it's very challenging. Super fun though. It's like the most adrenaline rush. It sounds like ADHD meets Yellowstone. Yeah, it is. But it sounds beautiful. Wow. It is called mounted shooting. Yeah. That's fascinating. And so do you get to try that?
Starting point is 00:18:49 So you have your own horse. That was nice to get, wasn't that? Yeah, I bought a horse. I was one of those, like, I did it once and loved it so much. I was like, I'm going to winter in Arizona. I'm buying the horse. I'm buying the guns.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Like I fully got into it, but I just, you know, I feel like at 30, I started riding. And then I turned 40 in November, um, last November. And I was like, all right, now's the new season to keep pushing myself and try something that's a little scary, but new and outside of my wheelhouse. Well, you look beautiful for 40. Well, thank you. Yeah. And yeah, I don't mean that in a forte, I just mean that in a complimentary way.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I'll send you a Valentine. Okay. Please do. Yeah. Actually your husband will get them all sit there and hold some. Yeah. I'd be like, hold. Okay, please do. Yeah. Actually, your husband will get them all, sit there and hold some for him. He will. Yeah, he'll be like, hold these for me, dude. You're going to get so many.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Watch and see. It's going to be great. We'll see. All my friends have a crush on you, by the way. Really? Yes. All my Nashville gal pals. I'd love to meet any nice gal.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Okay. Well, I know some. I've been trying to be like, we have more like, kind of like brave about just like dating and stuff, you know? Because I just get like, I start to get like turning into a little bit of a homebody sometimes. I know. I'm trying to be like, I'm trying to be like, I'm trying to be like, I'm trying to be like, I'm trying to be like, I'm trying to be like, I'm trying to be like, I'm trying to be like,
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Starting point is 00:19:58 Oh yeah, dude. I don't want somebody just freaking bugging me and bothering me and wanting pancakes or whatever. Can you make pancakes? Huh? No, I can't. Well, you should learn. me and bothering me and wanting pancakes or whatever. Can you make pancakes? Huh? No, I can't. Well, you should learn. Because they're going to want pancakes. Oh, they are.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, you're right. Yeah, OK. Let me practice a little. They're like the little cute ones, like my mom used to do, like the Mickey Mouse one, where she would pour the batter in the shape of Mickey Mouse. Oh, that's beautiful. And it was just epic, right?
Starting point is 00:20:22 I don't know what. Oh, our mom had like one of those things and it would sit on the table and it had a little Dial on it and would heat the skillet like that and you plugged it in right? Yeah, it's like a What do you call those things like a little aren't like a little? Skillet yeah, it's kind of like a skillet. Yeah, you don't have to put it on the oven the oven's built into it and she one time she did it though on like her wood table and Roasted like a little hole in it and she got, we all got, we got in trouble for it.
Starting point is 00:20:47 We didn't do pancakes and make me burn my table. How dare you want pancakes in my house? Yeah. I was like, well, dear God. Well, that's why you went to the horse therapy. Yeah. And it really is full circle. Today's podcast is sponsored by boot barn, America's largest Western is full circle. 48 states and they open one new store a week across the United States.
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Starting point is 00:21:57 That's BootBarn.com, code Theo. You got to tour with, and you have a new album out, I know that, and we're gonna talk about it. What's one of your favorite songs off of your new album that you like performing? Because as a comedian, there's jokes you like telling, and then there's some jokes you're performing, and it feels that, it feels even more vibrant.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Is there a song off of it that you really like performing? I mean, I just started doing some of them, because we did a little thing at my bar Casarosa, which I think is the first time I met you. Yeah, it's the first time I met you there. Yeah. At the opening. It was an opening.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. Yeah. We did the whole record, which was like, it's always fun to do. I've only done that once one other time with My Record Revolution a long time ago. So it was fun to like actually learn every song and And like, I didn't really know him that well. I had lyrics up there. I had a little notebook, like old school. I was like, it's my first time to play these.
Starting point is 00:22:51 You know what I mean? But I think, I don't know. There's one on there called Armadillo. It's the first song on the record. And my friend, Aaron Ray-Tier, I don't know if you know him. He's a Nashville songwriter and y'all should be friends because he's funny as hell and the funnest and Aaron Ray tear Ray tier Yeah, and he sent me this song and it's just funny and quirky and
Starting point is 00:23:14 So, I don't know that one's been fun to do live. I've only done a couple times but it's fun He's Kentucky boy here and right here that's a cool name. Um Kentucky boy. Aaron Ray tier. That's a cool name. Um, you got to tour with Toby Keith before. I did. Yeah. Yep. What was he like? What's Toby Keith like? That was one of my earliest tours. I was lucky enough, like I went on so many, well, there weren't hardly any women touring back then. Like, well, like in country, there wasn't that many touring that much. I mean, in the early days, you gotta play like a hundred, 200 shows a year, you know? So I went out with all men for a long time.
Starting point is 00:23:53 I learned so much from all of them. Like Keith Urban was my first one, 2005. And then, cause I just played Honky Tonks until then. And then Dierks Bentley and George Toby, I think was like my fourth big black major country tour. And I learned a lot. I mean, oh gosh, old school. Look at that hair.
Starting point is 00:24:12 That is like Wendell Tex's hair. Oh my gosh. Wow. Yeah, little old school tease it to Jesus. That's what we say. Oh, the Lord does my hair while I sleep. Exactly. So even yeah. Wow. That's cool. What was Toby like? Like, what was he like? I just never got to meet him. I've gotten to meet some different artists that I'm a big fan
Starting point is 00:24:34 of. Um, but what was he like as a person? He was really, he was like, he was himself. You know what I mean? Like he was his, like authentically himself. Kind of did everything his own way, an outlaw in his own way, prolific songwriter. And you know, he was kind of a tough love at first out on the road. But I guess I needed that, cause I was a baby and didn't know, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:01 what was going on yet. I was learning all the ropes of everything. And it was, I learned so much from every tour I was on. And I would say Toby was just like, like his fans taught me a lot too because they were really about Toby only. Like you had to work to get them to care, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:21 because they were like, we're here to see Toby. And he's his like outlaw kind of, um, I am who I am mentality. They kind of adopted that. And I felt like it made me work for it in a good way. Like I had to really figure out my set list and figure out like there's, I'm just some little gal. They're not here to see me. And if they're here early, I really need to, I'm here to gain fans.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I got to work on this. Yeah. Did you get to interact with them before he passed away? I haven't, I'm here to gain fans. I got to work on this. I got to capture that. Yeah. Did you get to interact with him before he passed away? I haven't, I did see him at the BMI awards when he got the songwriter legend award a couple years ago. So it was right before he passed away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And could you tell he was sick then? I just, cause it was, I knew people who knew he was sick for a long time. He just didn't like put much out there about it. It seemed like it was very private, but I guess who would want to, right? Yeah, well and I was, I mean when he was there he sounded great and he looked great, so I mean, you know, that journey is like everybody's got to take that journey and however they feel comfortable and their family and all that stuff, but I know that he was, even at the end, like really about the music, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Cause the last big thing I saw him at was the BMIs. And it was all about his catalog. And I did not realize how many, he wrote like 150 songs a year or something like crazy. Like just prolific. And I also didn't realize how many outside songs he cut, or that he had other artists cut of his until that ceremony.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Is there ever a song where you write it and you think it's good, but it's not for you? A lot. Oh really? A lot of times. Yeah, and I'm thankful that some artists are still willing to cut outside songs. I'm one of those artists.
Starting point is 00:27:03 What does that mean, that they're willing to cut outside songs? Like'm one of those artists. You know? What does that mean? That they're willing to cut outside songs? Like, you can't cut every song you ever write, you know? And so for instance, Aaron sent me Armadillo and I was like, I love this, I'm cutting it. So, you know, I think it's important if you're a songwriter to have a balance of,
Starting point is 00:27:22 we live in Nashville, like there's amazing songs written all day, every day in Nashville. Like there's amazing songs written all day, every day in this town for years. And I think it's cool when artists are not trying to write every song on their records. Oh, I see what you're saying, because at a certain point, it almost, you're just able to help out more people by picking up songs that they've written really.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, and you know, like for my career, I mean, my biggest songs I wouldn't have if I would have tried to write everything. I mean, like, House That Built Me is a staple in my career, and that's, I didn't write that. And Mama's Broken Heart and Little Red Wagon, like, I have some of the staples drunk, some of the staples in my set that are like career staple songs are not songs I wrote so I think it's good to keep the door open to like You know look around town look where we live. This is amazing, right?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yeah, so many people yeah, and you can't do things alone, too That's one thing I realized like kind of like as I get older. It's like I used to want to do everything by myself It was just like how I was wired and it still is a lot of times but it's certainly it started to alleviate some where it's like I got I need help I need people to do and I need people to help me do things and And I can help people do things and then it's more fun to do something with somebody sometimes Yeah, and it's like when you celebrate the highs With your friends because you all did it together like a co-wrote, you know it's fun like Like collaborating is great.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Nashville's such a good community for that. Like everybody's, I mean, you know, you live here, like everybody's so, country music community is very collaborative and we lift each other up and we kind of stick together. You know, you don't have to look. Do you think that's true? I do think it's true.
Starting point is 00:29:01 For me, it has been for 20 years. And not that you have to love every single person you ever work with or in the business But oh, yeah, I feel like everybody's kind of in it for the same reason and there's a mutual respect there most times. Yeah Yeah, I guess but it's also competitive right? Yeah, but I think that's also good you kind of like compete, but I think there's a difference in of My manager we've been together 21 years and I just recently went on a birthday trip with her and one of her really good friends
Starting point is 00:29:30 who's born and raised in Belle Meade, her name's Elizabeth and she said, there's a difference in wanting to win and wanting to beat everybody. And I thought that was really poignant. I was like, that, that it, cause that's a different mindset. Like it's okay to wanna win and like compete and be on top, but I don't,
Starting point is 00:29:47 I don't think you have to want to go into it going, I'm going to beat everybody. Right. I'm just going to win at my race. Yeah. Cause that's almost, uh, it's almost Vindic. It's not Vindic, but it's almost, um, yeah, I'm trying to think of the word eda really almost as a negative edge to it. It does.
Starting point is 00:30:03 And I don't feel like I want somebody to lose then. Right. Right. We can all win. We just got to think of the word. Really almost as a negative edge to it. It does. And I don't feel like- Because I want somebody to lose then. Right. We can all win. We just got to run our own race. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, thanks for thinking about that kind of stuff with me.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Yeah, because I love songwriting. Oh, and Nashville, anything can happen. Like you'll drop a tomato at Trader Joe's and somebody will come up and have half a stanza written about it. I know, it's great. Yeah, you get in a car accident and the guy gets out of the vehicle and he's already written a couple bars about the accident. And he's like, what do you think of these?
Starting point is 00:30:32 And I'm like, what do you think about giving me your insurance papers? You know, well, that's a title insurance papers, but it really is. That's how your glove box. Yeah. What's in your glove box, dude? It better just be gloves, buddy. Yeah. If there's gloves, that's in your glove box? That's a good song title. Yeah, dude. Yeah, what's in your glove box? It better just be gloves, buddy. Yeah. If there's gloves, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Why is it called a glove box? Not that we talked about it. It's even weirder if there's gloves in there. It is weirder now, isn't it? And it started off by- It's only supposed to be your insurance. Because people used to put the name is derived from the compartment's original purpose, storing driving gloves.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Initially, the glove compartment was a box near the driver on the floorboard. Driving gloves were worn to keep hands clean and considered essential equipment in early vehicles. Driving gloves are important for women now too because our hands, they like keep you from aging because your hands are on the wheel. And like, I didn't know that, but like driving gloves are a thing. But why does it keep you from aging? Because the sun coming through the windshield, you wear like gloves while you drive so that the sun's not like getting on your hands. Honey, you're only driving a Smyrna,
Starting point is 00:31:31 that ain't a lot of sunshine on them. I don't know, but I ride in gloves now because of that. My horse, I have my little gloves, I'm like, I don't want sun damage. Oh, I thought you ride shotgun in a car. I ride my horse with gloves on now because I'm like, oh God, I don't want aging hands. There's so much to think about.
Starting point is 00:31:47 It's a full-time job. Oh yeah, you don't want aging hands though. No. Because you can hide everything else, but you can't just show up to something with mittens on for no reason. No, but Dolly does wear those sheer gloves with the rhinestones, and I'm kind of like really into that.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So that's a vibe. Somebody said she's full body tatted up. I heard that too, but whoever really knows the answer. I don't know, a couple men have to. A couple, for sure. I mean, I don't know how many, I mean, I know. Is she still married or not? Yeah, Carl, somebody knows,
Starting point is 00:32:14 and we're gonna have to get to the bottom of this. Somebody knows. Does Donnie have the tattoos or not? Somebody tell us. Somebody's seen that artwork, brother, it ain't me, you know? I ain't no peeping Tom. I hope she does, that would even make her, if it's possible for her to be more badass,
Starting point is 00:32:26 that makes it more badass. Oh, if she came out with like in one of those ESPN where they do like the nude, like they're pushing a baby carriage, like, but they're naked or whatever. If she came out and she was full body tatted, dude, it would be crazy. Like Kat Von D just totally totally that'd be insane.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah. Tats are awesome. Yeah. You have them? Yeah, I got tats. I'm not like sleeved or anything. Cause I don't know about the top, like the top of your arm, like as you age,
Starting point is 00:32:56 like does it get weird? I don't know. So I just have them down here where they can't like swing at some point in my life. I have on my forearms. I don't like my tattoo arm. I don't want like my momma tattoo arm. I don't need that. You get a chair and then years later it's a swing set.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You're like, oh, that's a damn fort swing right there. Exactly. Gotta be strategic. Is there an artist that passed away that like you really missed their music? You missed them? Is that a weird question? There's a bunch. Like one you knew maybe even?
Starting point is 00:33:26 Haggard, Haggard like he's such a like my number one hero and I was really sad the day he died and like it I guess it was like the first kind of oh my god one of my heroes is gone you know feelings I was lucky enough to get to sing with him and meet him and know his family and so that was awesome. In fact, I just saw his family this past summer at the Plain State Fair and Ben Haggard and the family opened. But I just, I don't know, that was, Merle's my like, number one, you know. Yeah, what'd you admire about him, you think so much? I think that, you know, one of my favorite quotes
Starting point is 00:34:09 is from Johnny Cash and he said, I sing about the things that Merle Haggard actually lived. Cause he literally turned 21 in prison. Like he told his truth. Like he didn't have a glamorous childhood or upbringing and he took his outlaw and sort of the troubled times of his life, turned him into songs, and turned it into a beautiful career. And every time I was ever around him,
Starting point is 00:34:31 he's one of those heroes that like, is exactly what you hope he would be. Like a little mysterious, but super kind, you know? And it's always like, meet your heroes or not, it's scary, because what if they let you down? But he never did. Like all these pictures they're bringing up like tease it to Jesus. I mean, look at the hair.
Starting point is 00:34:52 That is Texas hair y'all. That's definitely a full crop. I mean, they got a lot of rain that summer. I'll say that. That is for sure. What's a song that you put on like, say like everybody has songs when they want to feel something, right? So like you have like, man, I really want to feel something right now. Like, or I don't know. I do. I'm kind of an emo kind of dude.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So I'll put on like, like I used to put on like Trace Adkins, Every Light in the House is On. You know what I'm talking about? Yes. Is that Trace Adkins, every light in the house is on, you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Is that Trace Adkins? I was gonna say Trace Adkins, yeah. Yeah, oh I told you. That guy, yeah. Yeah, you want the big deep voice,
Starting point is 00:35:32 like you wanna feel it. I don't know. Oh, I went through a breakup, yeah, and I would sit on my porch and just smoke cigarettes. I don't even smoke. Well, everybody smokes when they break up. Yeah, dude. It's like kinda part of it.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I would just smoke, and I'd play that on repeat till my neighbors were like, what the, turn off the light or whatever, we can't handle it anymore. I think Nobody and His Right Mind by George Strait. I haven't even heard it. It's so good, it's one of my favorite George Strait songs. But it's just like heartbreaker. We're like, I don't know, I love country,
Starting point is 00:36:00 like I truly, like my go-to is country. Old country is like my jam and George straight we call him the king for a reason. Mm-hmm. It's a great song Nobody in his right mind nobody is my right mind would have left or even my heart was smart enough to stay behind mmm, come on God put my fucking feelings in a wheelbarrow We need to go that horse therapy place immediately.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah, what else would I listen to? Oh, Lee Bryce's I Drive Your Truck. That one's a heartbreaker. Oh man, my friend Jessie Alexander wrote that song. Really? Yes, she did. And she's amazing. She wrote it.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I don't know who she wrote it with, but I know she wrote it. That's a great song. Oh, it's so good. And Lee's delivery is like insane. See, but that's a song that he didn't write. Right. Right. And that's why it takes a group. It's like, but you also, if he doesn't perform it, if somebody else does, who knows if it works the same, it could.
Starting point is 00:36:54 It all has to land in the right basket, right? Like the right song finds the right artist at the right time. Yeah. You know, Yeah. The house that built me too. I had, uh, I saw some, that's the writers of that song. Um, it took them like, they wrote that song for like seven years. Alan Shamblin and Tom Douglas. Yes. It, they rewrote it and rewrote it. It's seven years of writing it. But I'm, that is such a lesson. Like I'm not good at that at all. Like I'm kind of millennial about my, like I know I want to come into this co-write today and then I'm going to leave with a song.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Like in four hours you get a song or two hours or whatever it is. I don't know that I could have stuck with it for seven years. It's a lesson to all of us to like be patient till it's right. Cause that song is like perfectly written. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Yeah, they made like a real Sistine Chapel with that one. Dude, I remember it's kind of weird maybe, but like I grew up in like a pretty traumatic youth, you know, and, and I heard that song, this is a couple of years ago, maybe two years ago. It was like Christmas time. I was in my town where I grew up and I went and got it like an orchid or whatever from a
Starting point is 00:38:16 flower place and I took it back to the place that I grew up at and I went, this sounds really bizarre now, I wasn't doing peep and tom or anything. It was like I knocked on the door and I gave them that. I was like, I think that's really cool. Yeah, I said something nice should grow here. That's what I said. And I gave him that. That's a song. You said that to a songwriter, so... It was interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:34 You have to write it down. But honestly, I... But it's funny that what a song can do to somebody. Yes, because I didn't write that song, but I was like, how did they know my story? But my guitar player that was with me for forever, since I was like, how did they know my story? But my guitar player that was with me forever since I was 17, we lost him two years ago, but he said that song hits me
Starting point is 00:38:53 because it's what I wish I had. And that sounds like what you're talking about. And I never thought about it from that perspective. Oh, he wished he'd had those things at his home. He wished he would have had the house that built him. But he didn't have like a healthy childhood. Yeah. So, you know, but I, I just, I love a song like that.
Starting point is 00:39:11 And the fact that they waited it out and just stayed with it is like goals. I got to work on it. I got to work on it. Yeah, that is, yeah. Yeah. Who knows like what things, and that's what's the one thing that's nice about life. It's like, you don't know the little things you're doing now, how they'll merge with like the things you're doing later on and how it'll help you form like wherever you're
Starting point is 00:39:33 supposed to be. Like sometimes it's so hard to get through just the moment, you know, but you don't realize that the moment are the stairs that are going to get you to the place you're supposed to stand, you know? Yeah. Um, anyway, sorry, but yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. And those people must have thought I was bat shit crazy. No, but it's not like the house I grew up in was an old tobacco farm and it was a house built in 1905 and it was just a farmhouse, no central heat and air, one
Starting point is 00:40:01 bathroom, like not like like a farmhouse, like we didn't have a lot growing up, but people constantly stopped by there, specifically older people, seniors, and we're like, you know, they would cry, they would just be standing on the front porch crying, and I was like 10, like hiding behind my mom, going like trying to eavesdrop, and like what are they saying, you know, that they had so many memories there, and those handprints were there. That's why I thought when I heard the song, I was like, have they been eavesdrop and like, what are they saying? You know, that they had so many memories there and those handprints were there. That's why I thought when I heard the song, I was like, have they been eavesdropping on my whole life? Like, because it was such an old farmhouse that had so many stories and
Starting point is 00:40:34 it touched so many people's lives, you know? Oh yeah. Yeah. I think that's one thing that's amazing about art is that it can do that. I mean, I think you could, it's just powerful, you know? That the beats and the words and you put it all together the right way and it unlocks something. It does. And it's like, everybody feels like, okay, I'm not alone in this world and this is, this whatever's happening to me, good, bad or ugly, I'm not the only one. Yeah. That's the beauty of a song or any art really, truly, but especially songs. I love, um, I'm, I'm in awe of songs.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I'm a songwriter. I'm a song lover, a music lover, like, especially country ones. Cause we just sell it, tell the sad truth, no matter what, like you get in your fields, you know? Oh yeah. So what do you listen to when you're like wanting to like rage or like a rock out or I mean, I'll put them before. Well, I mean, before I go on stage, I listen to, uh, FGL to like rage or like rock out or I mean I'll put on before well I mean before I go on stage I listen to FGL dirt it's a
Starting point is 00:41:29 little up tempo for me but it's also kind of kind of chill yeah and like down home and grounding and then I'll put on a little bit of Boosie badass and listen to him so I'll turn it the other way you know I might even go some sexy red or something like that I don't go anything too crazy. I mean, sometimes I'll put on maybe like sound garden or like, um, uh, I've been listening to Steven Wilson, Jr. I'm obsessed with that record. Oh, that's so good. Golly, it's great.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Actually have a rat coming up with him. And I'm so, yeah, we wrote this song. I know it's, it's like, it's hard not. I wrote with him and Natalie Hemby recently, and we wrote this song called, well, the hook is, I don't wanna see the movie if the dog dies. Like, all of us sitting there crying. It was just like the most magical ride,
Starting point is 00:42:16 and it was Steven's idea, obviously, shows up with that. Yeah. And my dogs were there, and they're seniors, I was like, oh God. And they're scared, they're like, hey, let's go finish the song. No, he's so great. I love it, oh God. And they're scared. They're like, let's go finish the song. No, he's so great. I love it, but I also love it at Soundgarden
Starting point is 00:42:27 because mine is Audioslave. Like that's my. Really? Yeah. Girl, what do you wear while you listen to it? People are like, what do you, what would people be surprised to know about you? I'm like, huge Audioslave fan.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah. I just like, Nail in my hair. I just get all ragey. Yeah, yeah. Being all rage is a thing. You know, it's like my bread and butter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:48 No, I definitely noticed that some of it's in you, you know? And yeah, I've been victim of it for sure, dude. I've got a couple of angry women in my texts, in my D, in my dang, your ding, dang DMs. In my ding, dang DMs. Yeah. But yeah, it is. It's just interesting.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I'm a song will get you activated to get you ready for like a certain moment or something. Did you ever have to play at a funeral or anything? Do you ever get asked to do something? Oh God, I can't like, I'm not good at it at all. I just, I get too emotional. Did you ever have to or not? Yeah, I had to sing at my grandma's and I had to sing at a friend. That was like my age.
Starting point is 00:43:21 That was the worst one. Oh God. Is it the first one you ever went to? that was like my age, that was the worst one. Oh God, it was a car accident. It was the first like, like reality check, like teen years, high school friend, you know what I mean? And her family asked me to sing and I did, but it was just one of the hardest things I've ever done.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I really, I know, I know. So I, but you know, when you're given a gift, like what are you gonna say? I'm not gonna use it to celebrate someone that was amazing, you have to do it. Yeah, get on up there Miranda. Yeah, hoo, Florida. Like good God.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Yeah man, oh one time I was at a funeral and some, the person that sang, it was a girl, and she was so nervous she started singing the Star-Spangled Banner. On accident? Yeah. Oh man. Wait, you shouldn't sing that. Somebody had to go and kind of grab her. Hardly anyone should sing that. Hardly. Let's just talk about it. It's time to talk about it. Especially if Kenny's right there in the casket and she's just like,
Starting point is 00:44:19 people were like, we can't even be here right now. Honestly, like, there's like four people on earth that should sing that song and that's it. And she made it to like this and people wait and some people started going like this. I was like, no, no. Yeah, cause part of it is just you. I just feel so uncomfortable right now.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm gonna go down the spiral stairs and leave forever right now. Cause just thinking about it. Oh, and they only go up. A lot of us were like, what? I thought what happened? He wasn't even in the service. The whole thing got really confusing, man.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I've been at some weird funerals. My dad was 70 when I was born. He was an older man. And so he had to get me a suit for a funeral one time. And it was around Halloween. He got me a Beetlejuice costume. Like the pinstripe. And like a costume version though, like not even,
Starting point is 00:45:08 I don't even know if it was real textiles. Did they just think you were like stylish? I don't even know if it was real textiles or whatever. But anyway, so I go to this funeral dude in a dang Beetlejuice costume, bro. And I guess it was kind of hip, I guess. How old were you? I was probably 11 or 12.
Starting point is 00:45:27 So like already awkward years, so that didn't help? It was horrible. Yeah. But you know, I guess that's what happens when you send a senior citizen to the, it wasn't Rite Aid back then, it was called KMB, was the store they had, that had them a couple of costumes over there,
Starting point is 00:45:41 but God, it was, yeah, that was too much. But yeah, anyway, funerals are a lot. Yes, they are. So sorry I brought that up. I was like, I don't have anything to say to that. Sorry about that. It seems terrible. I heard a rumor that you got to meet Gypsy Rose when she was a
Starting point is 00:46:02 make a wish kid. Is that true? I did. I met her several times Do you remember it? Yep. There's a lot. There's look at that hair that crunch here I got that Aussie scrunch spray going in my hair I've met her several times super super sweet girl. And what was her mother like? Like I believed her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I mean, I did. Like, when all that came out, I was freaking out. That's what I was wondering. How did you feel? Did somebody just tell you, oh my God, do you see what just happened? Yeah, like somebody texted me and was like, have you seen this documentary? I'm like, what? What's happening? And I'm now, I've been down all the rabbit holes of it. I'm like in it. I'm 100% now she's pregnant. I watched all the things.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Like, she seems to be thriving. So. Yeah. I mean, she's pregnant. I watched all the things well like she's Seems to be thriving so yeah, I mean she's had a crazy childhood thing was crazy I think that's what I'm just saying I can't even imagine how crazy it was like if something like that would because you have these Moments in your life you're being supportive of somebody they're dealing with a disease a syndrome and then it was real to her I mean oh totally so she was a child, you know? Yeah. She was a baby child. But then suddenly it'd be like a national thing and you're like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah. I can't believe I was part of that, but you know, you don't know at the time. And neither did she. So it was just like, you know, I mean, her mom worked the system and it worked. Cause we have all met her. Like the whole country music community, like ask any of us.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Oh, so she was part of it. She was in it. Yep. She was hobnobbing. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. A lot of us. That gets kind of crazy too, sometimes, you know, but if that's what the child
Starting point is 00:47:39 loves or something, she did. And Gypsy was very genuine. Yeah. Really, truly. That's just such a cry. I heard that. I was like, this can't be true. It's Gypsy was very genuine. Yeah. Truly, truly. That's just such a cry. I heard that I was like, this can't be true. It's just so crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yeah. Did, has she, have you reached out? Have you guys, has she reached out to you since? No. I mean, that was so long ago. She might just put all that behind her, which I would if I were her, you know, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I don't know. Some of y'all songs are so good. I don't know how you could put it all behind you. Well, we'll see if she comes to a show. Yeah, there you go, dude. Yeah, that's just a crazy thing that I heard. So I was like, is this the truth or not? It's the truth.
Starting point is 00:48:12 It's on Google. It's got to be true. Well, now you know, chat GPT is kind of getting better than Google because there's not advertising on it. Oh, yeah. My brother's like super smart, like really a techie. And he's telling me all about this stuff. When we first said, I was like, who's Chad? He kept talking about Chad. And
Starting point is 00:48:29 I was like, who's Chad? And then he asked it to write a song at Father's Day. We had Father's Day in New York with my husband's family. We're sitting around, you know, with like forced family fun, you have to like think things to do. And so my brother's like, I'm gonna ask Chad to write a Miranda Lambert song. And I was like, okay. And it did. And it didn't have a melody, but it just the lyrics. And it was called Whiskey and Wildflowers. It was kind of good.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I was like, oh God, oh God, my career is over. It's happening. Do I get a royalty? Will it go on tour? Tell me all the answers. Chad GBT. There it is, dude. That's definitely the redneck version of Chad GBT is Chad GBT. There it is dude. That's definitely the redneck version of Chad GBT is Chad GBT.
Starting point is 00:49:08 That's what I thought he said. I was like, who's Chad? He was like, I'm saying chat. And I was like, oh. And it's like, how do you get to New York City? You put it in there and it's like, how much gas money you got? You know what I'm saying? I know like it has a different voice.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Like it has like a hick voice. That'd be funny. That'd be great having Chad GBT. That'd be so good. Hey Chad, how do I fix this two stroke motor, bub? That'd be so good, dude. Somebody has to come up with that. Yeah, whiskey and wildflowers sitting on the porch,
Starting point is 00:49:37 sunsinking low, memories of you like a river flow. Your laugh still lingers in the evening air, but loves a wild ride. Why does it talk about drinking when it's my song? And I'm holding on with care. They're judgy. River flow. Your laugh still lingers in the evening air, but loves a wild ride. Talk about drinking when it's my song. And I'm holding on. Judgy. Chad's judgy. And then the pre-chorus got a bottle in my hand and a heart full of scars. That sounds like Trace Atkins.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Well, it also sounds like you're a pirate. So that's the crazy part of it. It's so stressful. But this is also like Chad GPT is a newborn. You have to think in a few years if it starts to really get like the ability to do some stuff. But I don't know if it would ever take over like the human ability to feel and stuff and actually create music that's based on real feelings.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I don't think it could do it. No, and that's the, you know, it's all weird. Whatever, I'm trying to stay hip and cool, but it's weird. But I'm not gonna be that hip and cool. That's weird. Why don't you have feelings anymore? Right. I'm trying to stay hip and cool, but it's weird. But I'm not going to be that hip and cool. That's weird. Why don't we have feelings anymore? Right. Like you have to go to a museum to see feelings.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Like somebody's smiling behind a piece of glass. You're like, Oh, remember that? Remember that? Oh, there's a tear. Yeah. This is a fossilized tear. Yeah. That you're looking at.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Oh, wow. We don't even have those anymore. Yeah. I'm on the pill that makes you see you can't cry. Remember when people had those? But that could be a real thing one day. So weird. I remember when people had those. But that could be a real thing one day. I know.
Starting point is 00:50:47 But maybe it'll be, we'll be long gone and doing something else by then, hopefully. I hope I'm in the dang stars or definitely just, I don't know. I hope something happens to me. I hope I'm in a dang time capsule. You live in Nashville and Texas for a bit. What was Nashville, how has Nashville changed over the years to you? It's popular now. Like everybody wants to come here.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It's the city, which is awesome. I think like the fact that country music is thriving right now and our town is a destination, I love that because these honky tonks have been here for ages and kind of like, it's the music of our lives, you know, of my life. And so people are wanting to get a little glimpse of it. I love that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I don't love that the roads aren't really made for all these people yet, but we'll get there. Yeah. Some of these roads are damn homemade too. I'm like, what is somebody, I see you see somebody just put a damn cake batter in'm like, what is somebody, you see somebody just put a damn cake batter in a pothole out there, you know?
Starting point is 00:51:48 It's just, people are filling with anything. I drove through something the other day. Cake batter. Oh, I drove, yeah, people are using anything to fill them. Now there's so many potholes, especially in January around that time. I drove through something the other day and had damn devil's food all over my tires.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I was like, shit's getting weird out here. Was it Dolly's Brownie Mix? I don't know, is that a thing? Those are good. Dolly has her Brownie Mix? Have you tried them? The Duncan Hines Brownie Mix? Dolly has everything.
Starting point is 00:52:12 And I bought them, of course I bought them. And I was like, there it is. Of course I bought them. Oh, God. Because they don't have like oil in them. You know how the box brownies have oil? No, she has milk and eggs and butter, like real ingredients.
Starting point is 00:52:25 They're delicious. I love that. Dude, what I used to love was whenever our mom would make something, dude, and she would let us lick those things that were in the- The raw egg. She let you lick the beaters. Lick them beaters, boy.
Starting point is 00:52:37 The beaters. Now they're called kitchen mixers. But my mom had like the Walmart brand beaters. Yeah, kitchen mixers is a little bisexual for like the Walmart brand beaters. Yeah kitchen mixers is a little bisexual for me okay. My husband has the kitchen aid and he's obsessed with it. He does all of the things. He makes homemade pasta. He has all the every accessory you can have for a kitchen aid. He's like in it. He's in there. He's not doing like old-school beaters. We don't even have those. Put them
Starting point is 00:53:02 beaters on there honey. But I was like, your mom's like, don't eat too much of it. Cause it's raw eggs. Yeah. And we'd be like, bro. And the crazy thing was some of the, whatever was in it. I mean, we'd eat them. It's like that grainy stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:15 It had a little bit of like, yeah, it had like, I don't know what it was. Who cares? You didn't even give a damn. But the crazy part was some of it, if you started licking the beater at the top, then some of the stuff would flow down in your hand. So part was some of it, if you started licking the beater at the top, then some of the stuff would flow down in your hand. So you get all that. Then you're just licking your own hand with that still holding on to that beater. And then somebody would like accidentally put soapy dish water in the bowl and you're like,
Starting point is 00:53:36 no, it's over. Because dude, if you could get even part of your head in that dang bowl, you know, I just wanted to grow. I just wanted to grow longer. I would pray to God. I make my tongue longer at night. Well, that's a whole different episode. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. That's for another, that's for the Tracee Atkins episode. Well, I told you I'd leave. Yeah, you're right. Things have changed.
Starting point is 00:54:01 What's a place that you miss in Nashville that's not here anymore? I kind of miss old losers. Like old losers was like, I love losers still, but like Midtown, it was like just one little shitty dive bar with like darts in the back and smoke and like a good great jukebox and popcorn, you know? And now it's like three stories and the rooftop and all those things, but it's so great but I kind of miss like the little like the Divey or the better, you know, yeah
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah, now they sell the back porch over there. You can go kick it out. Sometimes that little deck I have a little sign up there says marine Lambert way Yeah, do you have you been on the VIP deck? Yeah, I have a couple times Yeah, do you have you been on the VIP deck? Yeah, I have a couple times Yes, I put in a lot of they're waiting for an ambulance put in a lot of late nighters to get that sign Tito's out of a shitty plastic cup to get your sign up there and I have one so and at least it says way it could have ended up being Miranda Lambert cul-de-sac Yeah, oh, no, it's not one of these cool. No, but at least drive way road Not cul-de-sac. Yeah, cool alarm or when somebody put a damn cul-de-sac first time ever saw one. I was like, what is this shit?
Starting point is 00:55:17 Do you mean you can't keep going? Just fucking hurt my feelings boy. I said we'll see about that. I'm a call the damn sheriff We'll see about that. I'm gonna call the damn sheriff. We'll see about this. I can't find a picture. I have one on my phone. What else is I thinking about? Oh, if you had to travel back in time, right? If you had a time warper
Starting point is 00:55:38 and it could have a hammie on it or whatever, I don't know how you like to travel, but if you had a time warper, what time back in your life would you go to, do you think? Right now. I think I'd just stay right now. I feel like I've done it, but I'm still learning.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Somebody asked me, what's your most fun era? And I was like, right now. Still young, but like not dumb. You know, I mean, you know that whole vibe where you learn a lot. Early thirties were weird. Late thirties were fine. But like now I'm like, what we're doing right now. You're like, we're here.
Starting point is 00:56:17 We're here. Everybody's just like, forties is the best decade. I'm like, let's roll. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. I believe it. Yeah. Here we go. Yeah. I believe it. Yeah. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Yeah. Um, tell me something else that you think about. Oh, you're the one, the new song is damn it. Randy on your new album. Who's it about, man? Well, it's about Randy. Everybody has a Randy in their life. And everybody has one. And it's about just a time where I was like, this is not good, it's not serving me anymore.
Starting point is 00:56:52 This is, I gotta move on. And was it a real, like, was it serious or was it just somebody that didn't install y'all's cable well or something like, you know? Well, it depends on the person. Everybody's got a Randy. Damn it, Randy. Right?
Starting point is 00:57:04 And I wrote it with John Randall, who's one of my besties, and his real name is Randy, so I always say that to him anyway, so it's kind of funny. And that's the one that Brendan's a writer on. Oh, yeah. I was flying a kite in the middle of a hurricane. There it is. That little songwriter. Um, what else was I thinking about? Um, what drives you at this point in your career?
Starting point is 00:57:23 I know this is kind of a general question, but, like, you've gotten to have notoriety. You've had number ones, you've won Grammys, you've won, you're a household name. You have, you can afford to pay your rent. You know, it's like, what goals are there still for you? Or do things evolve from goals into like just wanting to still do the job? I'm just curious and it's stuff I go through in my own life too with comedy, you know.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I'm just curious, what do you think about that? You know, I am lucky enough to have reached a lot of the goals that I set when I started this journey. I mean, I was 17 when I was from Chasing Music, so I'm doing... Yeah. And people are like, fuck, you'll be at a Dairy Queen in two months, you know. Yeah, and I was like, I was from Tastin Music, that's what I'm doing. Yeah. And people are like, fuck, you'll be at a Dairy Queen in two months. Yeah, and I was like, okay, see y'all next time. Like, well, I'll be singing in the drive-through, damn it. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I don't know, I feel like now I'm just like open. I'm trying to be open to, you know, I'm not walking around saying, I'm gonna do this and this and this. I'm just like absorbing what's around me and being open to new opportunities and meeting new people and like also saying no to the right things. Like I think that's a big part of it because you can save your energy for the right things if you just
Starting point is 00:58:40 say no to the things that are not right for you. That's kind of where I'm headed and where I've been living in the past couple years. Because I realize if you put all your energy into the wrong people and the wrong things, then you don't have any openness or any time or energy left for the right things and then it's too late. So I think I'm just in this space right now where I'm like, what's next?
Starting point is 00:59:03 I mean, this is new. I've just started doing podcasts, like I've never done that before until this year. You've done a good job on, I've watched some of them. Well, I'm new to it and I'm not great at talking, like I'm a singer, like I'm in front of people. I'm actually an introverted extrovert. I have an extroverted job with an introvert personality.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And so I'm trying to, I'm branching in that way. I'm fine to say my truths in songs. It's just harder to do just, you know, saying it out there, but I think it's important either way. So I don't know, my goals are like, what's next? Let's do something that scares us. Let's do something that's, you know, makes you grow and makes you learn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah, that's true, huh? Yeah, you grow and makes you learn. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Huh? Yes. Some of it's so weird. I feel like when you're involved in some part of the arts kind of, you know, people call them and some people just call them music and comedy and painting or whatever. But, um, it's weird to also kind of evolve cause it's like you age, right? We age and, and you're like, well, if I,
Starting point is 01:00:07 some songs I can't even really sing anymore. Some jokes I can't even really, I could tell them still, but is it really gonna be true to where I'm at? I find that that's interesting about art itself is you have to, and then you're like, but if I change, will I still have the people who like this thing? Yeah, it's like, how do you keep the common thread
Starting point is 01:00:25 and keep reinventing? It's a tiny little fine line you have to walk. And it's scary because what we do is very public and like what we signed up for and what we started saying or the jokes we told at 20 or the songs we wrote at 20 we're not the same, we're not in the same life space and we're not in the same lane anymore, you know, so it's like figuring out how to
Starting point is 01:00:49 do that gracefully but still keep that common thread of like where where you've been and where you're going but kind of walk this line of Staying authentic. Yeah to the to the true you that started this whole journey And comedy is the hardest thing in the world. Like I do not, I think that would be the literal hardest part of the arts of any art. I really do. Really? Yeah, I just respect it,
Starting point is 01:01:10 because it's the most vulnerable. Like standing up there in front of people and just telling jokes and hoping they, like that it lands, you know? And there's no band, it's just you. Yeah. Oh God, I wish somebody would pull up with a drum Start playing a drum solo immediately if you're like no this one didn't happen take it away Henry, you know
Starting point is 01:01:34 Like lean on yours up there by yourself like emotionally naked It's so scary. I think god. I can't even believe something you think back and I don't mean it like I'm not trying to It's so scary, I think. God, I can't even believe something when you think back, and I don't mean it like I'm not trying to feel my own ego, but when you think back, like I don't know if I'd go do it now, but yeah, you get up there that first time and you're just like, this is gonna,
Starting point is 01:01:55 this is gonna be good, you know? You don't even believe yourself, you just screaming that to yourself in a car, like you know, in a Ford Tours, you're like, this is gonna be good. Like in your best Chris Cornell voice, you're like, this has gotta be good. Like in your best Chris Cornell voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, beefing yourself up.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I don't, I don't, the fact that you said it, you don't know if you'd do it now, like I think about, I knew like three- It makes me nervous. I know, I just got anxiety. I think about like, I knew three chords and I was like walking in these bars, like can I play at the set change?
Starting point is 01:02:21 Like I just, I gotta get some experience. And you know, it's that thing of like, how do I get experience if you don't let me play? And then, but then you say, can I play at the set change? Like I just, I gotta get some experience. And you know, it's that thing of like, how do I get experience if you don't let me play? And then, but then you say I can't play cause I don't have any experience. Just put me on set change then and I'll play my three songs that I just learned yesterday. Like not good, but just being brave anyway.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I don't know, we did it. That's a good point. Yeah. I know the ones that hurt too, do you ever show you remember that really just kind of burned you when you were just like, God, this is hard. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Like a birthday or anything. Like you ever get played one of those era birthdays or something you're like, what is it? The private parties. I'm so thankful for private parties. I love them. I would love to play your private party. But some of them can be hard.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah. You know, where it's like, I did, I played a, I played a Sweet 16 one time. And this thing was the most extravagant party I've ever seen in my life. And it was a bunch of 16 year olds. And they only wanted me to do four songs. Michelle Branch was part of it, Leigh Ann Rimes and me.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And we each did four songs. And like, this thing was like legit, it was in Washington, DC. And these kids were dressed to the nines. They all had on like everything designer. I was like, I was working at Bell's when I turned 16. Oh, I don't rob those bastards. We were dressed to the threes, honey.
Starting point is 01:03:35 The threes. Okay, I'll tell you that. We was dressed, the three of us combined, we was a nine. I mean, that was one that sticks out in my mind. I'm like, oh Lord, this is bougie. Oh yeah, we remember. I had hand-me-downs from damn women. And I was like, I don't have an older sister.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I was wearing shit. I was like, whose shit is this? You know? Whatever was around. My mom was like a big thrifter. So big thrifter. I'm like, I found, but this is awesome. So like it was in the Doc Marten, like heyday and we couldn't afford those.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Those were very nice. They were very nice. God, this is where mother Hubbard lived. And one of those I heard, they were fancy. We went to Goodwill a lot and like I found a pair of Doc Martens for $7 and they were like new. And I went to school and my mom's like just tell everybody you got him at GW's and say it's like a nice store in Dallas so I forever was like these are my Doc Martens I got at GW's it's a nice store in
Starting point is 01:04:34 Dallas this is flat out live and I was like seven dollar Doc Martens like that's a score that's 350 a foot honey let's party that's the rest of the threes that's like putting damn each foot into a dang Sheraton. That's really nice. Sheraton's have pretty good beds. You know what I do notice after touring and going to hotels and stuff, I get one thing that bugs me now is if the mattress is too soft. And I don't mean it in a negative way, but it's like your back starts to fall apart
Starting point is 01:05:02 and you start to realize how many bones you have in your body as you get older. And you're like Anybody up you figure out like what like But is your continental like breakfast like just Froot Loops or is it like hot breakfast? Oh, no those things you start to like really appreciate on the road like y'all have real eggs Are they powdered eggs because you can't say hot breakfast if it's powdered eggs. That just doesn't count. That's fair. Doesn't count.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah, that's more MREs. Like, it's like MREs, but with a television that's on ESPN, you know, like they'll have that set up. Yeah, God, I think, yes, I remember we used to go to the Continental Breakfast and we would pretend like the, people there were waiters or whatever, we weren't even supposed to be there, we weren't staying there at the Holiday Inn, and we would go up there and eat up there whatever. We weren't even supposed to be there. We weren't staying there at the holiday inn.
Starting point is 01:05:46 And we would go up there and eat up there. And my stepdad would take us up there. But you're not staying there. Huh? Uh-uh. And we'd go in that bitch and dine, honey. And when they have happy hour and it's in a box, but I'll take it. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Box wine. Sounds great. Let's do it. Um, do you have a favorite party, like birthday party that you ever had so far? I know you just heard 40 you said. I think it was this one. Was it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Y'all go back to the casino? No. We went to Billy Bob's on a Monday. Billy Bob's like the biggest in Fort Worth. Oh, in Texas? Yeah, in the stockyards. My friend Gwen, she sings with me in my band for 13 years and she was like, where do you? Because I was like, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:06:24 There's so much pressure on that birthday. Yeah. You know, like the big, those zero ones, you're like, I don't, I just would rather do nothing. Like I shut down and she was, we were getting our hair done. And she was like, it was typical getting your hair done in the foil. So she's like, where do you want to turn 40?
Starting point is 01:06:39 And I was like, she was like, I feel like you want to turn 40 at home in Texas. Go back to the route, full circle. And I was like, I feel like you want to turn 40 at home in Texas. Go back to the route full circle. And I was like, I do, I think. And so Billy Bob's gave me the bar on a Monday because they're closed. And we had barbecue and a bunch of my Texas friends, Randy Rogers and Wade Bowen and Adam Hood played. And it was just a big old honky tonk night.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And it was like, it felt like, man, this is like why I started this in the first place. Like, I've been playing Billy Bob's for so long and going there to see shows. And so I think that was my favorite birthday so far. That's perfect. Well, that's the most recent one, you know? What else was I thinking about? Anything in the news that we could think of?
Starting point is 01:07:22 We'll get you out of here soon too, Miranda. I know you guys have a show. You have a show tonight? No, I don't. Tomorrow. Tomorrow night. Yeah. Oh, lucky.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Tomorrow night. Yep. For singing for the doggies. Oh, for your pups? Music for Nuts. Music for Muts. Yeah. It's a benefit for Mutt Nation.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Music for Muts and how, what qualifies a Mutt actually? Just us. Probably. Uh, I don't know. I have just rescue animals and they're just all just mixed little puppers. I started a foundation in 2009 called Mutt Nation Foundation with my mom. With your mom. Yep. That's her. And we've raised over $10 million since then.
Starting point is 01:08:04 $10 million? $10 million since then. $10 million? $10 million. Wow. Yeah, we raise awareness for adoption, for spay and neuter, for adopt don't shop. And like right now with the Hurricane Helene, we're doing a lot of work with Tractor Supply Rescue Relief and with Greater Good to, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:18 people are first obviously, but there's tons of shelters down there that were already overcrowded and got hit. And so just, there's a lot of moving parts. So really what our foundation does is kind of meet the need, whatever the need is, you know, whether it's lifting up shelters, giving them grants for renovations, natural disasters, we kind of run the gamut, but our main focus is to encourage people to adopt. And once someone creates something like this,
Starting point is 01:08:45 this foundation, right? Yeah. So this is a nonprofit organization. How do you raise funds for it? Obviously you can do fundraiser shows, you can put your own money into it. And then how does, I'm just curious, how does a nonprofit even, well, I guess those are the ways
Starting point is 01:09:01 you put money into it or you do fundraisers. Yeah, we've done fundraisers. I sing for the pups. I mean, we haven't done a music one, but like for my Vegas residency, we gave a dollar a ticket and I was there for two years. So a dollar ticket, we've done that on tour where a dollar ticket goes to my nation. And then this is our first benefit show in a couple of years. So excited. I got some friends coming out to sing some surprises. Really? Yes. It'll be fun.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Can any of the animals ever tune in? Any of them ever hit a B sharp or something? And have you ever trained any? No, my mom has this terrible shitty dog though. His name is Rodie and he's just like my dad. I know my dad found him on the side. Was he held back in school? Yes, and he has an underbite and he's a chowinny.
Starting point is 01:09:41 It's like the worst of all the worlds. What is that? And he's like my little shitty brother now, and that's what she calls him, because me and my brother, my real brother, are like, God, this sibling of ours is terrible. And he will sit there, my dad plays guitar and writes songs, and it's specifically George Jones.
Starting point is 01:09:57 He's still loving her today. When dad starts singing that, that thing howls, and it's like this screeching, awful noise, and you have to put it away. Like you have to put the dog in the house, and it's still this screeching, awful noise and you have to put it away. Like you have to put the dog in the house and it's still, you could hear it howling. And then that part where they go, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Stop loving. That thing howls and it's just like, and my parents think it's cute, which is even worse. I know, it's the worst. So yeah, they could be, some dogs sing. Do you want them to? Absolutely not. But if you could organize them.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Well, yeah. Get you a little batch of- If we could do like a family choir. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Get you a little batch of hounds in those church gowns or whatever. Yeah, we could do it.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I mean, anything can be done. We could ask Chad. Yeah. Chad will do it. Ask Chad GPT. Hey, organize these mutts guys. Um, was there two pieces of news? Anything else in the news? What were the top two news stories that we had in there? Um, oh yeah, this is a, and we don't have to talk
Starting point is 01:10:55 about this either if you don't, if it's an awkward thing. Yeah. Garth Brooks got accused of harassment. Did you ever know him as a bad guy? I always heard the nicest things about him. I don't know him. I don't, I just heard this today, so I have not been down the news, like rabbit hole of this. So it's fresh off the press. I have nothing to say about it, but I'm, I want to read it. I mean, I'm going to read it like everybody else.
Starting point is 01:11:10 I'm going to read it. I want to know. Yeah, no, I've, I've always heard the nice things about him or I've always been, he's always seemed kind of mysterious to me in a way. Like he always has seemed like he's done his own thing, I guess, you know, he was the biggest thing that I've ever heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've never heard of him. I mean, I've always heard the nice things about him. But he's always seemed kind of mysterious to me in a way. Like he always seemed like he's done his own thing, I guess.
Starting point is 01:11:28 You know? He was the biggest artist when I was a kid. He was my first concert. Was he? Yep, when I was 10 years old, night two at Texas Stadium. And he flew in, he like dropped out of a helicopter and when he did standing outside the fire and they lit the whole stage on fire and I was like, okay, this is bad.
Starting point is 01:11:46 But I had braces, but only two because I had a gap. So I had to do the gap, close the gap on the front two teeth. So just those two? Yeah. Who had, I haven't even heard of that. Well, this was a while ago. They should never do this to a child ever again. How does it even work?
Starting point is 01:11:59 Now they have like an invisible line. It's not fair. Kids these days don't have to be ugly. Like we were ugly. Like we had to just, I had scrunchy hair and Jesus and braces and all things. But I had the two braces when I saw that Garth Brooks show and I had all my Rockies.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Do you remember those jeans that are like real high-waisted with no back pockets? And so everybody's butt looked real long. And it had a, the label was black and white lettering? Rockies, yeah. And I had on those and they were red. I had on my Roper boots and I was so excited. My flame shirt, I was like, my brush popper,
Starting point is 01:12:29 like, and he came in and dropped out of that helicopter and I was just like, cards! And I was like screaming and I was like waving, but I only had the two and I had like pink rubber bands on them. So just like totally, and it was in that area where you would like curl one bang up and one down and tease it and it would look like a big cloud. Oh, that was never an error. But tell me more about it.
Starting point is 01:12:48 It was so bad. It was so bad. And I just was so excited. And I was like, I'm going to be a country singer. It was epic. Standing outside. Oh, I was just singing all of it. And I would get so excited when I could say, damn, no rodeo. My mom would be like, my mom would be like, that's cuss word. I'd be like, well, Garth said it. So I get to say it. Dude, the beaches of Cheyenne. So many good songs. So many, yep.
Starting point is 01:13:12 That's that no fences record. I bought the tape. I'm older than you, but I had the cassette tape. I don't know if you are, and we used to play that tape together. Oh, we used to play, we used to, they used to have this thing called crying, loving, or leaving on the radio.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Do you remember that? Yes, I loved that. Did you record the countdown? Like, same. And you had to push the button at the exact right time. Yeah. And for, but for two years, the number one song was, um, Whitney Houston. I will always love you.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Like, gee, can we just do something? Can't red hot chili peppers do something like we just had, it was the why can't we hot chili peppers do something like we just had there was a song for so long I was like something's gotta happen man we need a war in this country you know I was just like we got it we needed something new in there but yeah that was and that's when all the music some of the channels even it was all it was all one that top 40 was anything was in there yeah everything because it was a Casey Kasem So it was like all of the songs. Like it wasn't just one genre.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Crying, loving or leaving was it though. Hey Ernie, where are you? And he's like, yeah, I'm over here in Davenport, Iowa. First time caller. He'd be like, you crying, loving or leaving Ernie? And he'd be like, I'm loving. I want to see if we could like find that and listen to it. Like, I wonder if it exists somewhere on YouTube or something.
Starting point is 01:14:25 I would totally listen to that. Yeah. Oh, I called in, I called in two times. Got through. I called in 60, 75 times. What were you doing? Crying, loving or leaving? I was loving one time and then I was leaving one time. I was going to leave home. I was going to go to the post office and mail myself somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:14:41 That was my goal. And they're like, you can't do that, buddy. You're going to mail yourself somewhere else. else yeah that'd be kind of cool here but I rode my bike all the way over there and it was closed I thought it was open 24 hours a day I'm like what the hell key guys can even but just learned a lot that year but yeah crying lover, play one of them real quick for us if you can. It exists. Today's country 107.7, GNA and the Crying Lover. Perfect one to pick by the way.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Brian stopping by from Albany. What's up Brian? I was wondering if you could play, uh, Can I Get You You by Wake Shoutin' Me. Perfect. Perfect. There's no way we did not. That is so perfect. Bren, I swear to God. That was one of them, uh. We did not pick that on purpose.
Starting point is 01:15:31 I had no idea we were talking about that. That was actually perfect. God. Yeah, you might. My first wedding song, guys. Let's play that. Was it really? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:41 It was. You believe it though, that we did not do that on purpose? I love it. We did not do that on purpose. We just manifested all of that. I would never do that on purpose. We're crying love it ain't leaving now, bye. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Uh, leaving. Yeah, don't lift. Yeah, yeah. All three. We need to do a new spinoff of it this week. They should have it. Wonder if Kix Brooks does something like that. Cause I know he has a weekly show or something.
Starting point is 01:16:04 But that was it, man. When you were a kid waiting to hear if somebody was crying, loving, or leaving, you didn't even know. I wanna listen to these, not that one particular. Where people were. If they did that on purpose, I'm sorry. It's pretty funny.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I don't think they would do that. It's pretty funny. They're two nicer guys to actually do that. About the new album, what else, like what's new about it? What feels new to you about it? Obviously you have new tunes and that sort of thing, but yeah, like what feels like exciting to you about it
Starting point is 01:16:33 or anything different? Well, I made it in Texas. It's the first time I've recorded in Texas since I was 18. Okay, so back to your roots kind of? Back to the roots, yeah. I wanted to go to Austin and just like really, it's a really honky tonk record. I mean, it sounds like my childhood.
Starting point is 01:16:47 It sounds like the music I grew up on. And I think it's just because I have a new chapter, a new label, a new decade ahead of me of like whatever's gonna happen. And I wanted to like go back to the root of where the whole passion started to begin with, which was like playing those honky tonks in Texas. Like I think I had that sort of awakening when I had my birthday at Billy Bob's.
Starting point is 01:17:10 And I was like, I'm turning 40 at one of my favorite places on earth in my home state at a honky tonk, listening to country music. And that's just where my heart lives. At the end of the day is a honky tonk listening to country music. Yeah. So it felt right to like make my own music that way this time, you know? Yeah, it's hard for your heart to kind of get back home when your life gets busy like that in a way, you know? It is. And I have a house in Austin. I spend a lot of time in Austin.
Starting point is 01:17:33 I love Austin. Me too. My little brother lives there and I just, I don't know, I always say I'm a TNT state girl because my heart's half in Tennessee, half in Texas. But both places that I live are revolved around music, and I love that. Yeah, it's like sometimes your life gets so busy and then you're like, it stops at a certain point, there's a special day or a moment, you're like, okay, I can get a look at where I'm at. Yeah, it's good to have enough time to stop and look at where you're at, because I didn't for so long. I mean, when you're young and you start young,
Starting point is 01:18:06 following your dream, and then you just sort of are a horse with blinders, then you stop and you go, okay, now what? I made it, now what? And it's kind of a weird spot to be, but then once you embrace it, which is where I feel like I am right now, just embracing what I've done so far,
Starting point is 01:18:28 but like what else can we do, you know? I still feel really inspired and excited. I mean, I definitely don't have the same energy for like long, you know, 150 dates a year on the road or anything, but I'm still so inspired to like write songs and you know, I love the music. I can't, it's my life. I dedicated my whole inspired to like write songs and you know, I love the music.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I can't, it's, it's my life. I dedicated my whole life to it. It is funny. You kind of, yeah, you do when you get busy and your career gets busy, you, a lot of you gets dedicated to what it is. It's like, I spend most of my time like I have some close friends. I don't even get to talk to that much. And I know it's sad to say people like, well, you've worked instead of talk to
Starting point is 01:19:04 them, but it's almost like you build up your dream and but then your dream takes a lot of responsibility Yeah, you know nobody tells you what to do when you have done it like there's not like a Manual you can like there's not like a podcast you can like go back and look at me like so now what happens at this point? In my career at this age with this accolades, like what happens now? You just figure it out as you go. And you know, I'm like working with younger artists now and like newer artists have a label called Big Loud Texas. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:36 In partnership with Big Loud. Oh, that's yours, so you guys have a branch there now. Yep, yep. Oh, that's awesome, dude. And it's, you know, keeping that. Steven Wilson Jr. on Big Loud too? He's on Big Loud. Let's go. Yeah. So he's playing in Nashville. Petches on peches on peches. So good.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Yeah. Torn cigarette. Oh, when he said, is this song called Torn Cigarette? It's called Patches. Oh, that lyric that he says. I'm a torn cigarette. My patches got patched. It's so good. But he is playing in Nashville. Everyone tethered. So good. My father's son. Drain my one. December 4th. Tethered. So good. My father's son. Drain my blood.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Dude, God. It's like the, it's one of the greatest records that's come out in a decade. That's our audio slave, man. It really is. Cause it's all of it. It's hillbilly and it's rage and it's sad and it's funny. And even as a Native American, some of the beats,
Starting point is 01:20:22 some of the drums that he uses have a very like native sound to me. It's great. It blows me. I'm like, and I keep finding new songs on it that I like. That's, that's what's always amazing. Like you keep going back and re-hearing them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:34 And you're like, oh, now this one I like. Now this hit me weird. Yeah. Let's get fucking weird, buddy. Anyway. I also like to do where it's like a little vest. He's just like wears his little vest and all his videos. He's just sitting there freaking slaying the guitar.
Starting point is 01:20:48 And he's just like a little, uh, puffy vest. Yeah. Just cozy. I love it. He is. And it's puffy vest. I love it. Um, he looks like a lifeguard at Woodstock kind of in a way, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:21:00 He has a very safe, but risque vibe, dude. You can tell. And he's so sweet by the way, like the sweetest. You can tell like, I've just listened to some interviews and stuff with him and just listening to his music. I got to see him play one night at Whiskey Jam. At Whiskey Jam and that was so cool. But yeah, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Him, Ray Clay Stray's I've been listening to. That's great. So much good music out there. So much, so many great. Laney Wilson, I know you talk to her, I've been listening to. That's great. So much good music out there. So much. So many great. Lainey Wilson, I know you talk to her. I love her so much. God, if they had 11 Lainey Wilsons.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Good gal, pal. You'd be in there in the donut box with 11 Lainey Wilsons. God, sir, what? Dude, yeah. Yeah, and you'd be the cop. I would. Well, now look. Like, what are y'all doing?
Starting point is 01:21:42 Hey, what are you doing in there, huh? With a New York accent. I gotta work on that. Hey, what are you all doing? Hey, what are you doing there, huh? With a New York accent. I gotta work on that. Hey, what are you doing today? Anyway, Miranda Lambert, thank you so much for all the beautiful music. Thank you for spending time with us today and just sharing a little bit of your life. And yeah, and thanks for just like the inspiration and just being a space of like, hey, this is where you are and now let's see where we are and let's make the best stuff yet to come. And yeah, I just really enjoyed my time.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Well, thank you. We got deep and it was good. I liked it. Yeah. We talked about some good songs too. It's nice. Yep, we sure did. Your new album is out. It is. It is. It's called Postcards from Texas. Postcards from Texas and yeah, we'll be listening to it and...
Starting point is 01:22:24 And you got to check out Aaron right here. Okay. You're gonna like him. Okay. Corky one. Yeah? Yeah. Alright. I'm in.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Thank you so much. Thank you. Yep. cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take

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