This Past Weekend - E548 MrBeast

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Starting point is 00:01:22 compete for the largest prize in entertainment history, $5 million. Grateful to finally catch up with the one and only Mr. Beast. So is this, is it already started? We going? Yeah, we'll start right now, man. Let's do it. Mr. Beast, Jimmy, nice to see you today. Likewise. Bro, that's awesome, man. So Beast games, that's the show. Yeah. So before this, we were showing on episode one of a show I have coming out December 19th.

Starting point is 00:02:04 What'd you think of it? We watched it and then he started talking. His team was like, hit the cameras like, wait, wait, wait. Now I'm dying to know. What do you think? Oh, I thought a lot of things, man. First of all, I thought that you are obviously you're this wizard of Oz, Willy Wonka, kind of William Wallace of finances type of energy going on. Okay. You know, there's a lot of that, a lot.

Starting point is 00:02:28 Like I've never seen a show where every, I mean, a couple minutes there's like another twist of possibility, right? Yeah. I kind of realized how many game shows are missing. So many little elements in there where they could manipulate the situation more or create more of an environment for competitors in the game to make choices that would affect them and others.

Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah, and basically having layers and stuff like that. But the big thing is no one's ever set up that many cameras before, because it's a logistical nightmare. So it's hard to do these kinds of things normally unscripted because like, you know, we had unfathomable amounts of footage, like over a hundred years of footage from that episode. A hundred years of footage?

Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah, because I mean, we had to have over a hundred people work on it and post. So it's like to be able to do something at that scale, even just like to set up the cameras and edit and everything is, I mean, no one's ever done it before. It's diabolical almost, you know? Yeah, you said there's a lot of world records

Starting point is 00:03:30 that were broken in the shooting of this series. Yeah, 40 Guinness World Records. Wow. Yeah, we have like so many plaques now that we have up on our wall. I'm basically making a wall out of Guinness plaques just from the show. What are some of the records you guys broke?

Starting point is 00:03:48 Most contestants ever in a show, largest cash prize in a show, most cameras recording at once in a show, most people which you saw and show like most money given away in the first episode of a show, just like stuff like that. Yeah. Oh, that's the most people probably since 9 11. I would think. Oh my gosh. We might have to take that out. Yeah. And that's it. I shouldn't have said that. Yeah. Oh, that's the most people probably since 9 11. I would think it was like gosh, I might have to take that out. Yeah. And that's an option. It said that I'll say something else. Yeah, I haven't seen that many people at the same time. Why was there a cut before you say what you're saying right now? There's just we needed something. He had to use the bathroom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's how to use the yeah, I'd already soiled

Starting point is 00:04:24 the conversation. Oh, that's the most people that once that I'd seen since, oh, since I was in the parking lot of a widespread panic concert, you know, but that was LSD. That kind of works a little. Yeah, I think that's, honestly, you should keep the first one. Okay, well, there we go, dude. You said it, not me. That's a great point. You make the choices, man. Yeah. Do you feel like this wizard? Like, cause I'm, as I'm watching, I'm like, man, there's so many things I'm like,

Starting point is 00:04:51 where does the motivation come from? Is it to like, do you get so much joy out of like having the manipulation of the situation? Is it giving away the money is it? Cause there's so many moments in the world. I'm like watching people's feelings change. What is it for you that like, have you been able to figure out, because you've done so many of these types of competitions and opportunities for people, right? Yeah. I mean, the thing is, I feel like I'm motivated by a lot of things and these kinds of game shows, it's fun to like create environments that I've never been for and just like, well, let's just see kind of what people do.

Starting point is 00:05:27 Like a lot of that is just like mass behavioral psychology. Like if you offer someone money to eliminate other people, how much money would it take? You know, so it's kind of a little bit of that. But it's also I just like making great content and like I like do, you know, making things you can't find anywhere else, because it's just fun to like see how the world reacts to it. Yeah. And so in this instance, or in a lot of what we do, you know, making things you can't find anywhere else. Cause it's just fun to like see how the world reacts to it. So in this instance, or in a lot of what we do, like we, one time we put, we just put a big circle on the ground. We put a hundred people in it.

Starting point is 00:05:53 And we just were like, whoever leaves last gets half a million dollars. And then it's just like, how long does it take? Who's going to leave? Um, like those are the kinds of things I like personally, and just curious on, like what the fuck's gonna happen. Yeah, what's like one thing you've learned then about people's psychology? Have you learned or does it change a lot? Like, are you learned like, are there some general rules

Starting point is 00:06:12 you've learned that people will like behave around money or that sort of thing? Oh yeah, that's an interesting question. That's, I honestly, I feel like people are a lot nicer than you would think. Like they're not as, they don't tend, and maybe it's because when we do it, they know the video is going to be seen by 100 million people. So they're thinking of their personal image. But a lot of times I have given people the opportunity to like screw other people over

Starting point is 00:06:41 for some money and usually they don't take it or they like like push like it requires way more money than you would think. You know, like someone who would theoretically be making $30,000 a year and you would offer him 10 grand. But it means this other person gets eliminated or gets punished in the challenge. And a lot of times, like they'll say no, you know, and I'm like, whoa, that's not an easy decision to make. Like, there's some integrity here. You know, you mentioned that where we were taping that you were surprised about some people's integrity. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:07:08 Especially during this show, like, I sometimes throw large, copious sums of money to eliminate other people, to, like, offer it to certain people. And they say no. And I was always just like, what the fuck? Wow. This is crazy. Is there one age group or gender group

Starting point is 00:07:22 or any demographic you can give me on who it seems like after doing a lot of challenges where you got to see some integrity? Um, no, it's pretty, this is 10 episodes. If we watched it all, you would see that. Yeah, you would see that it's like pretty widespread across the board. I mean, maybe the senior citizen, some seniors can't make it through that. You saw that one 70 year old, she passed, which is. She passed away? No, passed the challenge.

Starting point is 00:07:49 Oh God. I hope she doesn't pass away before the show airs. That would be bad. No, I don't think people, some seniors, I don't know if I would let one of my grandparents watch this, just the levels of. Yeah, your heart beating. There's a lot, yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah, that's what I was going for. What I really wanted is like, in my YouTube video, sometimes people say they don't have enough emotion or they lack the storytelling or whatever. And part of it is like it's just YouTube. When you go to like a streaming platform like Amazon Prime Video or Netflix, you're like sitting down to watch something usually for like hours and you're to watch like this longer story and show. But when you go to YouTube, more than likely, like, you know, you're going there for a quicker hit.

Starting point is 00:08:26 You're not sitting down expecting to watch a 10 episode series. Like you're just clicking on videos and watching. So content put up on YouTube is just different. It's like, you know, series don't do as well. And you know, and so it's much easier to build characters and feel emotion over these 10 episodes, six hours of content than it is in a 20 minute video. Because you have like 10 minutes to build them up.

Starting point is 00:08:45 But then you got to wind the story down because the video is going to end in 10 minutes. You know what I mean? So my big thing here was like, I really wanted you to feel something and I wanted to like flex those muscles and like actually build characters and then like give emotion and things like that. You know, like when we were watching that, even though I've already seen it like 100 times already, I could feel my heart pounding. Yeah. I mean, or it might have been the Celsius I was drinking. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:09:06 But like I really could feel the emotion. That's what I want. Like when people watch the show, I want them to have very intense feelings. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I definitely did, man. And the interesting thing to me too is like a lot of times with game shows and it's the contestants that you start to get to know, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:25 But with this, it's not the contestants like. Well, you will later on, but because there's a thousand of them, first I got to, you know, lay down the hammer, you know, 900 of them or whatever, and then we can build them up. Oh, I see. And I definitely learned why no one ever does stuff with a thousand, because that's the most contestants ever. It's a lot to like, just everything is, you know, a thousand hotel rooms a night, you know what I mean? If the hotel room is $200, that's $200,000 a night

Starting point is 00:09:52 and just hotel rooms and you're feeding them. And even like every little thing is so expensive when you times it by a thousand. And then like to record a thousand people, you need a thousand cameras. Just to buy a thousand cameras is a bitch. And then to hook all the cameras up to the server, we need like 56 miles of cable to run it over there.

Starting point is 00:10:10 And then you need like fucking 250 camera people to check in on them. And so it's like, I know why people don't do reality shows at this scale because it's so fucking expensive. What was the total budget of this show? I want to tell you this show? Can you? Can I want to tell you about it? Can you just believe it?

Starting point is 00:10:28 So it doesn't make it in for sure. Can we believe it in some artistic way? So at least it looks exciting. No, just be like, what the fuck? I do this. Sure. Put that over my mouth. It was we spent.

Starting point is 00:10:37 Oh my God. Yeah. I hope my mom's all right. I didn't mean it. Don't cancel me. No, I'm just trying to give some different reactions. Put that in the intro. Oh my God. Right.

Starting point is 00:10:55 That you spent that much on this. Yeah, because it gets crazy. Like that first one, we built a thousand towers and those are real towers that have actual hydraulic press doors that are have to be safety proof with giant foam and crash pad at the bottom with the light system right because we're turning them red and green and then we had to build custom software to connect it all where you press the button and some of the lights change and then we had to

Starting point is 00:11:17 rig like I told you a thousand cameras in there to a giant control center like just that first episode alone was I mean crazy man and do you have to take it all down at the end? Yeah, yeah. So I didn't, I don't own that building. Yeah. Cause the problem is like, we needed six massive hangers. So like we basically, in Canada,

Starting point is 00:11:36 there's like these six giant airport hangers. And we were just like, hey, can we use those and converted them all to these big sets? And then right outside is a field. And that's where we built that city, which was also. So I have in this field, at one point, I have like 800 people working over here, just building a city in the middle of a field.

Starting point is 00:11:52 And I've got like 600 construction people in these six hangars, just building these other sets. And then I have all these, I mean, at some points we had like over 2000 people on set, just in this town in Canada. So it was crazy. And were you employing just a lot of locals? I mean, you would just set up,

Starting point is 00:12:07 you would put out the employment opportunities in advance? Yeah, we worked with two different unions and then yeah, we hired a bunch of people locally and things like that. So yeah, I created a lot of jobs locally there. And where does your joy come from? Cause you've given away a lot of money, right? And you give away a lot of joy while I'm watching.

Starting point is 00:12:24 There's something also, there's moments in there as I'm watching them like, oh, what would I do in that instance, right? That comes into my head, and then you see the reactions if somebody screws somebody over, and you see the reaction if somebody gets screwed over. And you kind of think, okay, well, what feeling would I want to have?

Starting point is 00:12:40 And then in the moment, you're like, oh, yeah, I would definitely take the money. But then right now, looking back, when I start to even think about some of those moments, I'd be like, man, it must've been really tough to leave and have those people feel, so maybe I wouldn't have, right? It's just, it's interesting just as a viewer, all the little moments that I kind of navigate

Starting point is 00:12:55 and then kind of learn about myself. But what do you get? Like, you give away so much money, do you feel like you're like making up for something in a past life? Or like, is there something that, like you didn't grow up with a lot of money, you know? No. And so do you like when you think back on little moments like did you see somebody give some money once and it made you feel excited?

Starting point is 00:13:16 Or like are you able to connect any of those dots as you get a little bit older and have some more breadth of time? You know, that's where I should come up with this, you know, heart throbbing story of like, I just want to, you know, help people because I couldn't when I was younger or whatever. But the honest truth is, like, I know how to make content go viral. We're really good at making good content. And I just believe a world where I help people is just more fun than a world there where I don't. And that's kind of really it.

Starting point is 00:13:44 I just I've noticed where, you know, videos where we do help people is just more fun than a world there where I don't. And that's kind of really it. I just I've noticed where, you know, videos where we do help people or give away money, I tend to just be a little happier, enjoy it a little bit more. And so I just lean more that way. That's cool. Yeah, I mean, that's the truth. I mean, I could, I could,

Starting point is 00:13:57 one time for fun, cause like everyone has these like PR publicists and PR people, I just talked to one. I was like, huh, what advice would you have for me? And they're like, you need to come up with a better story on why you help people. And I was like, well, what I, because this is what I usually say, it's like,

Starting point is 00:14:11 well, the truth is, it just is slightly more fun than what I don't. They're like, no, you need to come up with a better one. Like, you know, like you were saying, like, you know, say like you helped a homeless person and it brought you immense joy and all this stuff. And I was just like, yeah, that feels kind of fake. So yeah, that's.

Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah. So this is the truth. It is. And it's a very simple truth. Yeah. I like helping somebody out. It's just more fun than if I don't. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's scary to think that though, like recently I was giving, giving some money to some people that had been suffered from a storm, right. Um, from some flooding. But I'm not saying that to make myself look exciting or anything, but it was nothing like this. And if they see that and then hear what I gave, they're like, oh, this guy's. Well, I mean, this is just our reality show.

Starting point is 00:14:55 But yeah, in general, I don't know if you've watched too many of our videos, but we built 100 wells in Africa. Oh yeah, I know. Yeah, you guys have given blind stuff. You've taken plastics out of the ocean. Yeah, but the Wells stuff, that one was interesting, or really eye-opening for me, because we were one of them. We went like four hours into the middle of nowhere and you're like in places where these people don't have the internet. I mean, really intense poverty and

Starting point is 00:15:20 it's like, it's pretty eye-opening. I would recommend if anyone ever has an opportunity to just work on a project or do something in places like that. It's like, it's pretty eye opening. I would recommend if anyone ever has an opportunity to like, just work on a project or do something in places like that. It's like crazy to think that we're on the same planet, you know what I mean? And people who like don't even have access to clean water and have to walk an hour every morning to go to a river to get water, but then you look upstream and there's literally cows shitting in that same water

Starting point is 00:15:42 that they're drinking out of, because that's like, that's the world they live in. And like we have anyways, I don't know. Yeah. No, look, no, I think putting things in a perspective, right, changes things for people. Exactly. Were you was did you have to like kind of achieve a certain amount of finances before you were able to start giving away finances? No, I've always like my first brand deal was $10,000. And I just walked outside and gave it to a homeless person. Wow. I've just like my first brand deal was $10,000 and I just walked outside and gave it to a homeless person Wow, I've just always done it because it's just like, you know, if I Do this then hopefully this video makes $15,000 and then I'll give away $15,000, right?

Starting point is 00:16:14 And then hopefully that video makes $20,000 I'll give away 20 and so I just had that idea of where I was like What if I just give away the money and then it makes more money and I give that away and then I've just kind of Been doing that for like eight years. And now you're at $5 million, which is the largest amount that has ever been given away in a game show. Or in a reality show, in any show really.

Starting point is 00:16:32 No one's ever given away. I think Squid Game was the most of 4,560,000. Wow. Did you want to beat that kind of? Oh yeah. That's why the number was 5 million. But we also gave away like another 15 plus million on top of that

Starting point is 00:16:45 just throughout the show. No, I love it. Cause you hear so many companies that, companies that just like, it's about their bottom. And it's like, this is like the opposite of that. It's like, let's do something good and let's make a bunch of money, but then let's, let's give it away.

Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah. It's like the opposite of like all the other treacherous type of capitalism that you hear about, you know? Yeah, I mean, it's interesting because now that I've done like a streaming show or whatever, it's like a lot of these shows, their cash prize is like $250,000, $500,000. And it's like, I wonder why they don't give away more.

Starting point is 00:17:20 You know what I mean? Like you'll watch this whole 10 episode show just to see who wins 250K. And it's like the first three minutes of our show, we gave away a million dollars. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll be interesting. I'm curious to see how people react to it because I just, but anyways, you're going to make other tastes.

Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. Dude, we had a dude, he would give you 10 bucks to look at his butt. Right? Wait, what? Yeah. When I was a, you know, when I was younger than I am now, for sure. He was a child. I don't want to say a child, but you just

Starting point is 00:17:48 pretend I was a child, right? Because I was. And this guy would give you $10 to look at his butt, right? Not up close, far away. But it was like, so yeah, that guy could have given us a lot more. Do you need to file a police report? I have no idea, dude.

Starting point is 00:18:03 But I'm just saying, it's like everybody has a game show and you're like, yeah, people, these prizes are cheap. You know, that's what it was kind of what I was getting at. Anyway, we can take that part out. So you were on a game show and a guy gave you $10 to look at his butt. We had a dude in our area, I'll be honest with you, he'd give you $10, he'd walk off a little bit,

Starting point is 00:18:20 he kind of spread his butt a little bit, and you had to kind of go like that at him and you got the money, you know? Okay. So, but it wasn't, it wasn't close up and it wasn't even super invasive. It was like, you know, I get it's a, how old were you at the time? Uh, I was old enough to be like, Hey, this guy's kind of a crazy guy, you know, but he's also cheap, you know?

Starting point is 00:18:41 So probably 13, 12, 11, probably, you know? But anyway, you sure you don't want to file a police report You sure you don't want to take care of that He's not currently still offering 12 year olds $10 league despite cuz you might want to put an into that Yeah, you're right. Actually, and maybe that's the type of game we can go to do next is trapping guys like that You know $12, but games. That's different. Anyway, I shouldn't have said anything like that.

Starting point is 00:19:10 Just so our viewers know, right? I know you have the largest YouTube channel that exists, the most that they can have on there. You have more subscribers than I think people in America. Yeah, I haven't thought of that. But yeah, population of America. I think I already't thought of that. What's the population of America? Sorry to cut you off, Jimmy. Like 300 million, right?

Starting point is 00:19:30 Almost four. It's almost four. Is it? We're about the same, we're at 330. We're tied with America. I guess it's... I mean, I... It's crazy, man.

Starting point is 00:19:45 Like eight years ago, I was in high school. So it's kind of funny when I think about it, because eight years ago, I'm raising my hand to ask, use the bathroom. And then, yeah, I guess now we have the same subscribers as America. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty.

Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah, that's the difference. Pretty wild how it happens. It's a lot, man. You know what's interesting? Because you're, you talk about like, our large subscriber count is it's like like, when I had 10 million subscribers, I was like, I thought this is fame. Like this is, you know, I would go on a Walmart

Starting point is 00:20:14 and I don't know, maybe one person would ask for a photo and it was like, this is fucking cool. This is what it's like. But you know, there's just such a big difference, and this is gonna sound obvious, but where I'm at now, than when I had like 10 million subscribers or where I was like four years ago. And it keeps getting crazier every year and every year.

Starting point is 00:20:32 Like people will follow my car to like, if I'm out and they see me, they'll like try to stalk me so they can see where I live. Like, that kind of stuff didn't happen four years ago. Or almost anything I do ends up on the internet, right? Like, one time I was like at a drive, every time I go to a drive through,

Starting point is 00:20:52 it's like flipping a coin on whether or not, like someone's gonna go, Mr. Beast, and then all the people in the background run to the window, and it's gonna be this thing that's, you know, kind of intense, or if it's just like a really, really old person, and I'm like always super happy when, like, I pull up to a drive through and it sounds just like a really, really old person. And I'm like always super happy when like I pull up to a drive through and it sounds like they're 50 because I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm good.

Starting point is 00:21:09 But if they if they sound like they're in their 20s or 30s, it's brutal. Because then it's like one time someone did that. They opened it. She was like, you're Mr. Beast. I was like, yeah. And she goes to whip out her phone. I was like, hey, I don't want people to know what I'm driving. Like we could chat, but just please no photos. Cause then if it goes viral, I'm going to have to sell this car. And like, it's just a lot of work.

Starting point is 00:21:28 And she's like, okay. And then she goes to get the food and she comes back and there's just, I see just 10 other people that work. I won't even say the restaurant behind her coming up or their phones recording. I was like, I thought I could trust you. And I had to drive off before they handed me my food because I was like, if I don't, they're going to start filming people to see the car drive, blah, blah. And then it's funny, like the next day I see on Reddit, Mr.

Starting point is 00:21:53 Beast is an asshole, just drove off. And it's like, no, you forgot to tell the part where I was like, hey, please don't tax my car, you know, just come to me, really leaves that whole thing out. And so there's a lot of that like, or another time I was at a restaurant, I don't even know who I was with, but someone paid for my food. And I was like, when I asked for the bill,

Starting point is 00:22:14 they were like, oh, someone paid for it. They're like, told me to tell you they like your videos. I was like, cool, how do I tip? And they're like, well, we don't have a bill. And I was like, okay, so I just laugh. And then the next day I see on the internet, Mr. B stiffed me and didn't leave a tip or whatever. And it's like, someone paid for my meal.

Starting point is 00:22:30 I didn't get a bill. It's not like I carry cash. Yeah. So, and I was just, so I have so many instances like that where, like no one gives a fuck when you're smaller about all these little things. But like, as I've gotten bigger,

Starting point is 00:22:42 yeah, it's just like every interaction, it's like a 10% chance this thing's going to end up on the internet and or they're going to try to twist things or or whatever. And it's just gotten crazier. Like people, like I said, follow me or. Yeah, it's it's interesting. Yeah, and you get well, you get to a point also a popularity where you've also gone. Oh, you can't go back.

Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah, first of all, you can't unbeast yourself. Well, actually I can unbeast myself. If I wear a beanie, I've tried all sorts of outfits when I fly to see which ones get rid. If I put my bangs in a beanie and put that on, because I've never worn anything like that in my videos, the amount of photos I take go down like crazy. Yeah, so it's like, and then if I combo the beanie

Starting point is 00:23:22 with like a pair of glasses, because I also have never worn glasses in my videos, it takes it down. So I've like studied it. Cause like I used to just rock a hood, but that's kind of like suspicious. It's like, especially in places where it's not cold. People are like-

Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah, it's almost like a bank robber, but he's at United Airlines. It actually makes them like double look, and then they're like, oh shit. So the hood strap doesn't work, but the beanie and glasses strap, that's the key. If you wanna be like low key. Yeah, no, I think there's different ways

Starting point is 00:23:50 to do different little disguises. I do think it's interesting what you're saying though, like about, like I would notice, this is just for me, but I would notice like, someone would pay for my food sometime at a restaurant, but then I would read like, oh, he didn't thank us for it. So really, they were paying for it.

Starting point is 00:24:08 So I would engage with them, which is, it's OK. But at some point, it's like maybe I'm due with friends. I'd rather just pay for the food. Yeah, I'd rather just pay for my food. I didn't know that there was this other exchange to it. So I'm not complaining. I'm happy for the extra food. But if I'm in a hurry or something

Starting point is 00:24:23 and now I'm in a different spot and now I'm in a conversation where somebody also then wants to ask you about a business thing or something, it's like, you know. There's no rule book for these kinds of things. Right, there's no rule book for it. So you kind of have to like learn on the go, like what do I do when random people pay for my food? Oh, I guess this is the random people

Starting point is 00:24:40 paid for my food etiquette. I have to stand there and demand a bill from the waitress five times until they give it so I can tip. I then have to walk around the restaurant and find who paid for it and thank them. These are the things that you just kind of have to learn as you get more famous, yeah. Yeah, well, it's just interesting, you know?

Starting point is 00:24:58 People will be like, oh, famous people complaining, but it's like, but if somebody, if popularity is a blessing and a curse, and sometimes it's a side effect of what you even wanted to do, right? And yeah, and then there's also ways to like little things to navigate amongst it. This episode is sponsored by BAM!

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Starting point is 00:30:14 and was there. Yeah. So when I was probably 13 or 11, you know, Xbox Live, I just was randomized in the name and it gave me like the name Mr. B6000. And so that was just like my Xbox Live, I just was randomized to the name and it gave me like the name Mr. V 6000. And so that was just like my Xbox gamertag when I was playing Call of Duty. So they gave you, did they ever come after you and try to claim any title to it?

Starting point is 00:30:34 Well, no, because it's just like a random name generator and they don't own it. But then, so then when I started a YouTube channel, I just called it Mr. V 6000. And then everyone was just like, why the 6000? I was like, I don't know. And then I eventually just dropped it. And there's Mr. V 6000. And then everyone was just like, why is this 6000? I was like, I don't know. And then I eventually just dropped it and there's Mr. V's. So that's kind of how it came about.

Starting point is 00:30:50 But in terms of how I got where I am now, I started making videos when I was 11, had no fucking clue what I was doing. They were absolute trash. And then no one watched them when I was 11, no one watched them when I was 12, no one watched them when I was 13, no one watched them when I was 14,

Starting point is 00:31:04 no one watched them when I was 15. And then I started to was 12, no one watched when I was 13, no one watched when I was 14, no one watched when I was 15. And then I started to get like, holy fuck, is anyone ever going to watch these? I'm like four years in. I'm like having depressive mental breakdowns because I'm poor and everything I have. But I mean, like at the time, you know, obviously everyone thinks the videos they make are great. And I thought I was making like insanely great videos, but they're just trash. I just and like the problem is I didn't have anyone to teach me how to edit. So I'm like learning on my own.

Starting point is 00:31:27 I didn't I didn't know anything about cameras, didn't know anything about anything. And then 16, no one's watching them. Seventeen's no one watching them. And I'm like, fuck, I just like I only my whole life was just I just want to do YouTube. I need to make enough money by the time I graduate high school so I can do this. Or I'm fucked because like I didn't have good grades or anything. And, you know, we didn't have much money because my parents were over leveraged in 2008 They're in the army bought some properties 2008 and then the recession or financial crisis hit went bankrupt lost everything

Starting point is 00:31:54 Oh, so like my mom was also like fuck my son's just gonna be In there, yeah, like just gonna be homeless and she she it. And so I finally, 18, about to graduate high school, still no one watches the videos. No one gives a fuck. I'm making that. Not even on graduation night? Yeah, I remember like, yeah, it's just like, my mom's like, all right, it's time to accept reality.

Starting point is 00:32:19 Gotta go to community college, gotta get a degree. And I was just like, I didn't want to, but I was like, okay, let me just pick the easiest, lamest fucking degree. I think it was like some communications to create my local community. Zoning is one of them. But then two weeks into it, I just like, fuck this shit. And so every day, because I didn't have enough money to move out, I just go to college.

Starting point is 00:32:38 But then I would just work on videos in my car. And I was just like, OK, in six months, my mom's going to find out that I have straight zeros kick me out of the house. I gotta get it where people are watching my videos enough or I can like live off of it over the next six months. And then I just started doing a bunch of stupid stuff like around this time is when I counted to a hundred thousand. Yeah, it's so classic.

Starting point is 00:32:57 And a lot of other things like that. Watching somebody semi unconscious count their way through like the 80,000 is unbelievable. Yeah, it was, there was one part through like the 80,000 is unbelievable. Yeah, it was. And well, there was one part, I think at 93,000 where I was like 92,999, 91,000. I actually went backwards and didn't realize it. And then I just went 91,001, 91,002. So I like, yeah, it was, cause I was so just out of it at that point.

Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah. There are other moments in that where you're like, yeah, somebody helped this guy or something, you know? But anyways, around that point, I had a month where I made 20 grand and then I was like, Mom, I have straight zeros. I'll move out tomorrow. And then it just moves out. So that and then, yeah, then we just kept reinvesting it all.

Starting point is 00:33:34 And here we are. So it's like a 15 year journey and it's been pretty crazy. Was it hard to learn to reinvest in yourself? Is that like a I know you kind of mentioned a minute ago, was that like a thing? Is it hard to learn to reinvesting yourself? Is that like a, I know you kind of mentioned a minute ago, was that like a thing? Is it hard to learn to reinvest? No, for me it always came natural. Cause like, I have a, well, now it's a little bit crazier cause we're traveling and everything.

Starting point is 00:33:52 But back then, you know, I lived in a place that was $720 a month and I split it with someone. So I needed 360 for rent and I had like a 2005 Dodge Durango, which wasn't that expensive. So it was like, okay, $1,000 to cover my expenses. Everything else just pour back in. You know what I mean? So if you just live below your means,

Starting point is 00:34:09 then it allows you just to go crazy and throw everything back into it. And I just was like a fucking machine back then that lived to make the best videos possible. And so every dollar was just a way to just make a better video. Wow. So you wanna make the best video.

Starting point is 00:34:24 There's something about it that you wanna make a better video. Wow, so you wanna make the best video. There's something about it that you wanna make the best video. Yeah, well, I've obviously studied the algorithm, studied the tens of thousands of YouTube videos. I'm a data nerd, and what's interesting is the data always just shows that the better a video is, the more views it gets. It's like if people watch it and enjoy it,

Starting point is 00:34:41 YouTube gives it more views. So it's like, yeah, the better the, that's what took us from 100,000 views a video to a million to 10 million views a video to 20 to 30 to 40 to 50 to 100. It's just, you know, people notice when you put in the effort and go above and beyond, so they just keep coming back. Yeah, I mean, that, yeah, watching,

Starting point is 00:34:59 I mean, I know this will be on Amazon, right? Yeah, Prime Video, the Beast Game thing, yeah. But watching some of your stuff is it's just like, man, this is like fantastical, you know? It's like fantasy. There's fantasy parts of it. What was one you guys just put up about? You went out into these like, like this cave and-

Starting point is 00:35:16 Seven Days in the Underground Cave? Is that a, was it a real cave or not a real cave? So we did Seven Days in a Cave and Seven Days in Underground City. Which one are you talking about? Underground City. Yeah, that's in Romania. That's, in underground city. Which one are you talking about? Underground city. Yeah, that's in Romania. That was crazy.

Starting point is 00:35:27 It was so great because it's like, it mixes like past and present. It's like, I can't, it's like, are we the Mayans or the aliens here? There's this mix of like, you know, where is this a real city? Is it not? It looks brand new, but then it also has these-

Starting point is 00:35:43 Well, in the Romans, they used to mine salt out of there. I think it was like something crazy, like two billion pounds of salt have been mined there. Wow. Something ridiculous. Yeah, so it's been used for over a thousand years and then they built a little underground city there

Starting point is 00:35:57 and there's a ferris wheel and everything. It's so mind blowing that like how. There's a real ferris wheel there. Yeah, in that underground city. That's a part to it. That's one that it's just like, I can't tell sometimes when it's new or older. It's like, it's just it's fantastical.

Starting point is 00:36:10 You know, that's what it feels like to me. It felt like dang, this is dang fantasy, you know? So you're a Mr. Beast. Is there a Mrs. Beast? Do they have a Mrs. Beast? I mean, I have a girlfriend. OK. You know, I didn't know.

Starting point is 00:36:21 I just call her Tia. OK. So you just call her by her natural name or whatever you call her by her given name. Do you remember your first girlfriend ever or no? Yeah, but you know, I love my current girlfriend. Okay, oh yeah, yeah, that's what I was just, or yeah, I was just thinking like,

Starting point is 00:36:38 were you good at having a girl, like was there ever a girl that even had a crush on your neighborhood or anything as a kid? You don't have to say her name. No, it's bro when I um, I When I was growing up I was so I mean I still am but I was incredibly awkward I had a lot of pimples when I was a teenager. Yeah, like I have scars on my forehead from I was saw

Starting point is 00:36:57 I was an acne up freak that just obsessed over YouTube I don't I didn't know how to talk to a woman like if they were like, hi, I'd probably just be like What are you? So it was fuck. No, no. I mean, but it kind of worked to my advantage a little bit because that's why I just grinded so much from 11 to 18, which most people probably would have been trying to talk to girls or, you know, actually kill all your time. Exactly. Whereas I was just like fucking playing baseball and play baseball and grind it on YouTube every second of the day, so it worked out in my advantage. Do you know Accutane?

Starting point is 00:37:29 Yeah, Accutane, didn't it kill, it didn't kill Jessica Simpson. What happened to her? And that wasn't her, sorry. Yeah. I don't know, it might have killed someone. I mean, it's a pretty intense thing, but I took Accutane and it just got rid of all my Accutane.

Starting point is 00:37:42 Oh, it helped? Yeah, oh yeah, and actually, I was, when I called you to YouTube, I watched when I was younger, he just said that he all my acne. Oh, it helped? Yeah, oh yeah. And actually, I was, I called a YouTube I watched when I was younger. He just said that he started taking Accutane, all his acne went away. And I was like, okay. So I asked my dermatologist and I took it and then all my acne went away as well.

Starting point is 00:37:55 And I was like, holy shit, where was, but I didn't take it till I was like 19 or 20. And I was like, my God, why didn't someone tell me about this? Why didn't anybody tell you? Yeah, when I was 15 or 16. What, and I probably, it's probably for the better better because it's pretty intense,

Starting point is 00:38:06 but it like dries your skin out like crazy. And it gets to the point where the your skin will get like it shrinks your pores too. So like the blackheads on your nose will literally come out on their own. And like you'll like wake up one day and you'll just like all the stuff. Like if you squeeze blackheads, they'll just be sitting on top of your nose. It's like a miracle. Like when people with that worm rod in the ground, you ever seen that when they electrocute the ground and get the worms out of it?

Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah, basically like that. Yeah. And it's, this is a crazy thing. So anyways, I'm saying this because if there's any of you out there in the same spot as me, Accutane changed my life. I hope to be like that Call of Duty YouTuber was to me when I was younger to you. It was, it was wild. Some dude on Call of Duty is like, Hey, get some Accutane.

Starting point is 00:38:43 Yeah. He would just do it like a story time and talk about how he fixes acne and I was just like, Oh, it was wild. Some dude on Call of Duty is like, hey, get some Accutane. Yeah, he would just do it like a story time and talk about how he fixes acne. And I was just like, oh, changed my life. Dude, we had to get this blotter. They had something, there was this, finally got a prescription, because mine was bad too, dude.

Starting point is 00:38:55 Like, and I was afraid to smile because some dude would have that hard patch and it would just be like, it would be like a gang of acne, like MS.3rdacne or whatever. Bro, I know what to do. That was my fucking forehead for years. Yeah. And you would smile and it would fucking just squirt on somebody.

Starting point is 00:39:10 It was almost like you were you were afraid to make certain faces because a couple of them would go off. You know, it was like, you know, like, I don't know if mine was that intense. I had if you get them like in here in the corners of my nose. So scary. Yeah. I already have a big nose. So if I get a pimple on it, I'd have to stay home until it went away or whatever.

Starting point is 00:39:29 God, dude, yeah, acne was crazy, because you didn't do anything, right? You've been at home, you're just growing up or whatever, and then God's like, oh yeah, you little bastard. I know, it's like you see these people who don't wash their face, and they just have perfect, flawless skin, and then you're over here doing everything you can and you got you know a hundred blackheads on your nose and probably 40 pimples on your face, and it's just like

Starting point is 00:39:51 Why why why am I being punished? You know what like why me and we had this blotter stuff It was like this this green stuff came out at one point you have to put it all it had a like a blotter almost Like a for playing bingo. Yeah, and you put it all over your skin, but it had green it was green right? It's kind of green and you couldn't tell right when you put it on but if you were at school and you had a white Shirt or something your whole shirt of your neck would start just getting green throughout the day cuz you'd sweat it down You know, it's it was heroin. How old are you? I was probably 11 12 Me growing up we had proactive or whatever the fuck that was. Yeah, we didn't have it. I don't remember this green shit you're talking about.

Starting point is 00:40:27 We had prayer and some other shit that they had. Yeah, meeting the first girl was, oh, I remember in our apartment complex, some dad, I remember. This is the first girl that I maybe had a crush on or something. The dad got a daughter a drum, right, for Christmas or whatever. And she would make her play on the back porch. She would practice and I would go around and listen and

Starting point is 00:40:49 She would play uh What's that ice cube song it's like um it was a good day bum bum bum bum bum Bum bum bum bum bum bum yeah kind of thank God. Yeah, no bark. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Starting point is 00:41:14 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, brother had some issues, I think, with her brother, but there uh, But that was like the first crush. What kind of violence? Somebody like got upset at somebody and somebody threw like a like a stump or whatever through somebody's bathroom window. It got really hot.

Starting point is 00:41:38 But between me and her she didn't know that. I don't think she ever knew that. But I would listen to her play that and the dad would yell at her to fucking play it. He was, I think, a Raiders fan or whatever. Anyway, sorry, kind of rambling. You just got back from India, right? Yeah. Nice, dude. How was that?

Starting point is 00:41:55 Have you ever done shows or anything in India? I went to India when I was a student. We went to Madras and we worked at a children's home. It was just a week, but it was magnificent, man. Some of the most beautiful, energetic humans in the world. and we worked at like a children's home. It was like, it was just a week, but it was magnificent, man. Some of the most beautiful, energetic humans in the world, you know, like a lot of happiness I felt like over there. So I really enjoyed it.

Starting point is 00:42:13 What was your experience like? Yeah, I enjoyed being there as well. Well, we, yeah, it was pretty intense, not gonna lie. We like, when I, I mean, it got off to like, I literally as I'm walking out of the airport, there was just a bunch of people there waiting, you know? So I took some photos, said hi to people, whatever, got in my car.

Starting point is 00:42:35 And then that video someone filmed got posted on like this, like I guess celebrities are like a really big thing, like Bollywood stars in India. And so like they posted on this Instagram account and it got like 20 million views in like the next 10 hours. So basically like everyone knew I was in India after that, which we also said we were coming cause we were going to like, you know, talk on a stage cause I was launching a

Starting point is 00:43:00 product and things like that. But it got pretty intense cause people were trying to find which hotel I was in and they were like camping out at all the hotels. And so like I'm like as we're pulling in like with my seat really reclined because I didn't want to know. And somehow they figured out which one we're staying at. And then there's people waiting out there. And there's it. It got pretty crazy. And then we we just like launched our chocolate bar at a mall. There's a feastable over there. Yeah. Feastables. We launched it over there. And there's like I, it was crazy.

Starting point is 00:43:25 The amount of people that showed up. We were just talking on stage and whatever, but the problem is so many people were showing up there that they like, like people were going on in places in the mall where they weren't supposed to, getting in locked doors and the line and crowd was getting so big, they made us end it early and leave,

Starting point is 00:43:41 which was annoying because like, I felt bad because so many people had showed up and I just wanted to at least like wave and say hi to a lot of them. And then yeah, we've just I met a lot of the biggest Indian creators over there and super cool film some stuff. Wow. Yeah, we just we what was also interesting is we did this meet and greet with a bunch of Bollywood actors like their kids and just said hi to them. And I've just never watched any Bollywood films. So I was just, you know, hanging out, saying hi to some of these people.

Starting point is 00:44:12 And like, I took a photo with this kid and one parent. And then one of the guys beside me who just works there was like, hey, do you know who that guy is? It's this. And he showed me like an Instagram account. He had like 60 million followers. I was like, no. He's like, oh, that was the guy I just met.

Starting point is 00:44:25 He's like, yeah, I was like, oh, cool. And then I took a photo and said hi to another kid with his mom and he's like, the guy was like, she's like in these movies and like this. And he was like freaking out. And I was like, and I didn't know who any of these people were. And so I was like, okay, now I need you to tell me who they are before they walk up.

Starting point is 00:44:42 And so he was like, it's just this random guy I just met. And he's just like, okay, here's this person's Instagram account, it'd be like 30 million followers. Like there apparently there's like twice as many people use Instagram in India than in USA. So I didn't know any of this, but like, it's a really big. You forget about that, it's just how many people there are. Yeah, and TikTok's banned in India.

Starting point is 00:45:01 So that makes more people use Instagram. And so it's like really, really big over there because I was like, it was crazy. There's so many people that I met that just had crazy high follower accounts. And it's like, I don't see that over here in America. And then I looked into the data because I'm a data guy and I was like, oh, my gosh, like a fuckload of people use it over there. And the usage skyrocketed after they banned TikTok. And same thing with YouTube, actually, like India.

Starting point is 00:45:24 More people watch YouTube in India than in America, because again, like in America, we're competing, it's TikTok over there, they're not. And then the fact that there's over a billion people. So it's like a huge- Oh, okay, YouTube is bigger over there too then. Yeah, YouTube's bigger over there. So it's like a huge market.

Starting point is 00:45:38 But I had a great time and it was just, it was pretty intense though. Like I posted an Instagram story showing us driving down the road and they're just everywhere we drove. There's just dozens of kids that would just run along the side of the road and follow our car. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:53 And so it was, it was, I felt, I felt loved. Yeah. I felt very loved. That's, that's for sure. I was like, damn people over here, they care. Um, and it was, it was cool. Yeah. It's a lot of good energy over there and it's safe energy too.

Starting point is 00:46:05 So the excitement, I feel like in a place like India, you don't feel like it's going to get to the place. Was it getting shady, you think? Not like that. I thought people would stab me, but they're... How do I say it in a way where it doesn't sound like a being a diva? There were a little less concern for personal space over there. They're like more... They'll run up to you and get like really close. It's not a lot of personal space. Yeah, they're like.

Starting point is 00:46:27 Like you'll get your own pillow. Like in America, you know, people will dab you up, like a group of five or six people and they'll stay a foot or two away, you know, but over there, like they'll just run up and hug me and like get really, really close and it gets a little intense sometimes. Like I noticed like some of them did not give a fuck

Starting point is 00:46:42 about my personal space, especially if it was a bigger group Oh, they'll hide in your mouth if you leave it open. Yeah, I know it so that was that's a thing They just yeah, I remember being they would people were sleeping on the side of the road there I remember in India when I was there you would just be driving and I know people just you know Somebody was just walking and I guess it decided to get some rest or whatever But yeah, you don't even get your own pillow in India. Like you lay down and then there's other, people have little quad. It's just, there's a lot of people there.

Starting point is 00:47:08 There's a lot of folks. You were talking about feastables, and thank you guys sent me some. I'll go the whole day, I don't need any sugar. Middle of the night, crack open to a box of feastables that some asshole sent me. I'm that asshole. And they're awesome.

Starting point is 00:47:22 Thank you. And the peanut butter one is probably my favorite one. Thank you. But then it's like, I just have so much, I freak out in the middle of the night and cause I'm just a damn sugar pervert. And then now I just can't go back to bed, you know? But thank you.

Starting point is 00:47:37 But what I want to say is, would you ever do like a Willy Wonka type of thing? Cause I feel like this, I mean, you already are kind of there, you know? So, you know, we put 10 golden tickets in it one time. I didn't know that. Yeah. So we, it's funny you asked.

Starting point is 00:47:51 So yeah, that's a great idea. We should, it's almost like we should put 10 golden tickets in random bars. I should build a chocolate factory, fly them down and have them compete for it. Did they, did you already do all that? Yeah. But it's, it was pretty cool.

Starting point is 00:48:04 This is years ago. Most of your fans probably have no idea I did it. So yeah, we put the golden tickets out. I built an actual chocolate river. And you know what's funny? This, I don't even know if I've ever told this story, but we, I like, it's the day before we're going to film, you know, the 10 golden ticket winners are in town.

Starting point is 00:48:21 And I go to the chocolate factory to just, you know, check out things and the chocolate factory to just, you know, check out things. And the chocolate river is just not there. Like we like literally had like a multiple feet deep spread across this like warehouse, like chocolate river. But it's like there. But then I come back the next day and it's just not there. Like, it's literally empty. And what happened, you think? We don't know. I mean, I guess there was like a hole in the lining

Starting point is 00:48:46 on the bottom of the river we built. And it just all sank through it. I don't know. But see, that chocolate river right there. Oh my God, bro. I did not know this at all. Yeah, pause it right there. And is that the guy that took it?

Starting point is 00:48:58 No, that's Nolan, one of our friends. And then that's a, every time someone got eliminated, they got in the boat and we paddled them down the chocolate river out the factory. But yeah, so it's like the day before and I just walk in and there's like a waterfall and everything, but it's just empty. And I'm like, where the fuck did my chocolate river go last night? And so we had to like blitz to refill it and redo the entire thing.

Starting point is 00:49:20 It was a fucking shit show. Just search out Mr. Beach chocolate factory and you can see like he could see what it actually looks like on YouTube. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm so behind on that. No, it's all good. I have so many crazy stories I can tell you about the fucking crazy shit we've done.

Starting point is 00:49:35 Like who else has built a fucking chocolate factory? You had to even know. Here, skip ahead to the inside. Yeah. Yeah. Right there. Look at that shit. And candy and everything. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. yeah, or yeah, right there. Look at that shit. And candy and everything. Yeah, positive. Wow.

Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah, so those are real candy. I mean, it was fucking difficult to keep the bugs out of there. Oh yeah, you don't think about that bugs like candy. Yeah, and so we gave the winner the option of, keep the factory or just have $500,000. And I was like, yo, like, this chocolate factory,

Starting point is 00:50:03 or chocolate river is probably going to disappear. Tends to do that. These candies are all going to go bad in the next few days. It's going to be an absolute disaster. Take the money. I'd recommend you take them. I'll give it to you. I mean, I'm not, you know, I will, but I just it's going to cost you like six

Starting point is 00:50:20 figures to like clean this shit up. Like, I don't want to just dump that on you, you know? Was there Bobby Flay in that too? At the end is Gordon Ramsay. So the last challenge they did is they had to cook a dessert and then whoever Gordon Ramsay said did the best won the Chocolate Factory. Oh wow, and he looks a little bit like Charlie from the original Chocolate Factory.

Starting point is 00:50:38 Pull up a Charlie from the original Chocolate Factory photo there, let's do a little side by side. Compared Gordon Ramsay to him. And I'm gonna be so accurate here which blew my own mind actually. Yeah actually actually Carl the guy to the right of Gordon kind of looks like him. Let's go hold on no no the picture I want is up one wait no scroll yeah uh no right there to the left left on that side right there. Yeah Carl kind of looks like that. So pretty close, huh? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:51:06 Your imagination. Pretty close right there. Holy shit. That could be him. What is that shirtless photo of Gordon? Wait, wait, wait. No, go to that shirtless one. What am I looking at there?

Starting point is 00:51:14 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. When did he start posing like that? I don't know, dude. My boy. That's one vote for Bobby Kennedy right there, dude. That's crazy, bro. Oh, Bobby Flay. Bobby Flay's daughter right there, dude. That's crazy, bro. Oh, Bobby Flay, Bobby Flay's daughter is beautiful, actually. And I don't care if she hears it.

Starting point is 00:51:32 She's super talented, that's exactly what I mean. She's also a stunning young lady. But what are we saying? No, I got more to say. I'll tell you this. Yes, you already did that, man. Yeah, and what's also interesting is while we were filming that video,

Starting point is 00:51:49 I was doing a different video where I didn't eat any food for two weeks. What's the longest fast you've ever done? I just did three days the other day of only water. How was it? Or I did 72 hours. It was good, got a little temperamental. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:52:01 But I kind of enjoyed it. And how long did you do? I did 14 days, only water. Only water. Yeah, I lost, what was it, like 20 something pounds of enjoyed it. How long did you do? I did 14 days, only water. Only water. Yeah, I lost, what was it, like 20-something pounds. Was it to lose weight or just to? You know, it was for a video just to see what happens. And after day five or six, you're pretty fucking drained.

Starting point is 00:52:18 You have no energy. You know what's interesting? If you read online about extended fast, people will be like, oh, you'll lose minimal muscle mass and it's mostly fat. And which seemed like a lot of Reddit threads and things when you first Google it, that's what it tells you. So I did a Dexys scam before I did my extended fast,

Starting point is 00:52:33 you know, where they measure the fat muscle in your body and do one after. And I was like, I lost like six pounds of muscle. It was like pretty depressing how much muscle I lost. Yeah, you lose it. Yeah, which I mean is obvious, but that's not what the internet said what happened, which I was like, someone needs to like correct this

Starting point is 00:52:49 because yeah, it was pretty depressing. So I lost whatever it was like 13 pounds of fat, seven pounds of lean mass, but- It's depressing because in your show, you start to, and you don't want to explain to people, hey, I'm fasting because people think something's going on with you. Yeah, but even after you start eating,

Starting point is 00:53:03 like the muscle didn't just come back. So it's like, yeah, that was that was pretty brutal. But it was it was intense not eating. I and I still was filming and working throughout it. So like on day 10 and 11 and 12, like it was really fucking with me. Like I I'm standing up was just like brutal, you know, and like walking around or anything like that, because you have no energy. You needed a real cane like Willy Wonka. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:26 Yeah, that was that was intense. And what were you did you and like walking around or anything like that, cause you have no energy. You needed a real cane like Willy Wonka had. Yeah, yeah, that was intense. And what were you, did you notice like, but your clarity got pretty sharp as a whip. Were you able to use that? People say that, but no, for me it never, that never hit. I never got that like a superhuman clarity, cause that's what I was hoping for. No, I just like, I was just fucking tired, man. All the time.

Starting point is 00:53:42 I was too tired to have clarity. Oh, I could read people's damn minds. I thought that guy was naked at first on the right. Former All-Pro NFL tackle Russell Okung has lost over 150 pounds since retiring, including losing 100 pounds in 40 days by fasting every day. Yeah. That's just, that's crazy.

Starting point is 00:53:59 We just started a video where we, or we're about to start it after, when I go back home, we built a gym, like a just a weightlifting gym. And then we put a big red circle around it. And then we're going to give a guy either I don't know which one if he loses 100 pounds before he leaves that red circle. And so and he has a trainer in there and he has a chef at everything he'll need. And then yeah,, yeah. And then it's exciting. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:25 So like that video might take like a year, you know? And so he just, he's living in there. We have cameras set up and it's just like lose a hundred pounds or, or leave, you know, and if you lose a hundred pounds before you leave, you, you win the money. That's fair, dude. They should do that around like a, um, Indy car race, you know, just put a big, huge circle around like a, uh, Talladega a big, huge circle around like a taladega or whatever.

Starting point is 00:54:46 Why? And just be like, lose a hundred pounds. I think about the end of it. Another video we're about to start to is I bought a jet and then we're grabbing two people who just got like graduated from pilot school or whatever, just got their license. And we're going, if you guys live in this ship for the next 100 days, don't step foot out of it once. For the next 100 days, you get to keep the jet. So then they'll own a private jet, but they can fly it around and do whatever.

Starting point is 00:55:11 Just as long as they don't leave. They just can't leave. Yeah, so like, I'm hoping they'll like fly to New York and just Uber eat some pizza to the door of the jet, then fly to California or whatever. And it just like, yeah, that'll be a fun one. Yeah, that sounds interesting. Is there a video, say if you got, they shut you down, they're like, beast, you're done. fun one. Yeah, that sounds interesting. Is there a video, say if you got to, they shut you down, they're like,

Starting point is 00:55:26 beast, you're done, no more beastin' around here, boy. Get out of here, beast. What if people were like that, and then you had to make one more video, do you know what it would be, you think? That's only one more, I mean. Cause you're already, I mean, you've got the five million dollar,

Starting point is 00:55:42 you know, you've upped the ante. Yeah, well that's on the show. But on YouTube, cause I don't, I don't have that. I don't have streaming money on YouTube. You know what I mean? Um, I don't, I don't know, man, we've, there's not, cause there's so many things I want to do. It'd be hard to pick one. Oh, there are. Yeah. You still have a ton of ideas of unlimited. I mean, the bottleneck for me is not ideas. It's just like actually pulling them off, you know, cause a lot of these are multimillion dollar projects that take

Starting point is 00:56:04 months upon months to set up months months to film, months to edit, etc. So it's just like, they're pretty brutal. Like one of the ones we did recently that I thought was really cool, but like this is an example of how much time it takes is we built a bunker underground. Did you see that one? I know. I'm not sure. OK, so we had to dig like a super deep hole. We bought a bunker, put it in, cover it up, and then pull up the outside of it for him

Starting point is 00:56:28 so he can see what it looks like. And then we had to, yeah, that top one right there. I've seen some of this. Yeah, so that's a bunker we built. And then those two people, if they lived in there for 100 days, they won half a million dollars. Oh, they did it too.

Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah, yeah, and then, but you have to set deck the bunker. And then, so that's like multiple months of building and everything. And then you put them in there and then that's still three months and 10 days of filming. And then, you know, you have to have like camera crew there going around the clock and you have to have a medic there

Starting point is 00:56:55 just for safety and all these other things. And I have to check in every day. And then now you come out the other end you have a hundred days worth of footage, which takes, you know, editing team forever to come through and watch and edit and then build stories. So like, that's like a eight month long project, you know what I mean? So that's they're just like, it's a lot.

Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah, it's very, very intense. And that's the thing is like, the fact that I can do all this for a YouTube video, it was like, unfathomable when I was growing up, like, it's crazy to see, like the kind of content that can be supported by YouTube, you know? Like I think on that video, we probably spent like four and a half million dollars. Making that. Yeah, just on that between the bunker

Starting point is 00:57:31 and the prize pool and everything. And how many shows can you have? Like, can you have a couple of things going like that at once? Yeah, we have to, I try to upload two videos a month. So we have to be working on six day videos at a time because these videos take months to pull off. So, because if we're only six day videos at a time because these videos take months to pull off. So if we're only working on one at a time,

Starting point is 00:57:48 then I'd only upload once every like three or four months. And do you come up with most of the ideas yourself or do you have kind of a team and you guys kind of pull them? Yeah, so that's where it's interesting because the ideas are incredibly important because like you, I do a lot of seven day challenges, right? I spent seven days bearded alive. I spent seven days in solitary confinement. Seven days in cave, underground city, seven days on a dry island, blah, blah, I do a lot of seven day challenges, right? I spend seven days buried alive. I spend seven days in solitary confinement.

Starting point is 00:58:06 Seven days in a cave, underground city. Seven days on a desert island, blah, blah, blah. And then what's interesting is like, you could do seven days buried alive. So me laying in a coffin for seven days. Or you could do, theoretically, right, I could lay in a bathtub for seven days, right? Both take the same amount of my time.

Starting point is 00:58:21 Both are me just laying there. But the one in the bathtub isn't gonna get any views. No one gives a fuck, the one of me laying in a tomb underground, everyone will care, because it's like fucking what the fuck, this dude buried himself alive. So it shows, theoretically it's kind of the same thing, but this idea is just in a different setting environment

Starting point is 00:58:38 and will probably get 10,000 times more views. And so it shows the importance of the idea, if that makes sense. It's not, views or success isn't just, isn't directly correlated with the effort you put in. A lot of it has to do with what is the overarching concept. And so once you kind of realize that,

Starting point is 00:58:54 you just like, you're really obsessed with how do I come up with crazy, cool, original viral ideas? And so that's what I spent most of my teenage years obsessing over and I used to do every single day I would brainstorm video ideas and I'd write them down and that's how I built like, I have this like Google sheet with like 10,000 ideas on it, it's ridiculous. I thought of trying to sell that to YouTubers at one point

Starting point is 00:59:15 because there's so many there I could never film them. But then after a while, now that things have gotten so big and I have to like film 25, 28 days a month and I have all this stuff going on, I can't do an hour a day. So I hired people to do it for me. And then, you know, like once a week, they'll just go, hey,

Starting point is 00:59:29 here's 200 really cool, unique ideas. I'll flip through them and, you know, they'll usually inspire something in my head. Because a big thing too is like, this is what I've probably said this on podcasts before, but like if there was like a fruit in Africa that if you ate, you grew two feet taller and you didn't know that exist

Starting point is 00:59:45 until I just told you right now, right? You wouldn't have been able to brainstorm ideas around eating that fruit. But now that you know it exists, you could. And so it's like very important to always be intaking new information and learning things because that's how you come up with more original creative stuff.

Starting point is 01:00:02 Like I noticed when I first started hiring people to like start brainstorming stuff for me, that like after two months of someone doing this, you would just basically start getting the same ideas on autopilot, right? Like if a guy really likes basketball, you'll start to notice like, oh, 10% of his ideas have to do with basketball.

Starting point is 01:00:19 But it's not because basketball is like, the greatest idea is the most viral thing, it's just cause that's what he watches. And so, you know, and you'll notice if someone watches baseball, though, oh, now they can be you have baseball ideas. And so what you want is you just want to get someone who you just almost like what to make them constantly learn and absorb new information. Listen to 10 different podcasts, one episode of each, not 10 of one. Listen, you know, watch every sport, not one. And you you almost have to, like, to train people

Starting point is 01:00:45 to help you come up with good ideas, you have to just train them to watch a bunch of different content and absorb information, and you'll see it come out in their ideas, if that makes sense. So first of all, you'd find somebody who you like, okay, I like this, that this person comes up with ideas, and then you'd be like, now I just need to have,

Starting point is 01:00:59 I need them to encourage them to consume different things. Yeah, it's almost like a different diet. Different ingredients to come out with a different cake or whatever it be. Exactly, yeah. So you control their information diet by, you know. Information diet, that's so wild. I mean, and that's, yeah, I mean, I obsess over things. Yeah, it's important.

Starting point is 01:01:15 But that's been super helpful because, yeah, it's just, that's how we, because a big part of getting 100 million views theoretically on a video is if, is it something someone has seen before or not? Like there's this Ted talk I watched one time and he was talking about how, if you're driving down the road and you just see a cow,

Starting point is 01:01:35 you're probably not even gonna look at it, right? Who cares? You've seen them all the time. But if you're driving down the road and there's a purple cow, you're gonna look like four times, you're gonna remember that. Someone could ask you a year later and you'll be like, yeah, I's a purple cow, you're gonna look like four times, you're gonna remember that. Like you, you know, someone could ask you a year later and you'll be like, yeah, I saw

Starting point is 01:01:47 a purple cow. And it's like, the only difference is it's purple. And it's kind of the same way on social media, right? Like if you're scrolling through videos and it's something you've seen before, nothing too crazy. It's just the, it's almost like you should visualize it as like, that's the equivalent of someone seeing a cow. But if it's something they've never seen before, like you putting a bunker underground and

Starting point is 01:02:04 two people living in it, that is the equivalent of a purple cow on social media. Look, how do I make something that Prince would drink milk out of, you know? Wait, what'd you just say? Like how do you make something that Prince would drink milk out of? Prince, Prince Musician, what's his last name?

Starting point is 01:02:21 Prince, okay. You know I'm talking about Prince from Minnesota? No. Oh, Prince. I've heard the word Little Rick. Yeah, that's on. He's a musician. But he was like a purple guy. So like, how do you make this right? Got 2000 princes, right?

Starting point is 01:02:36 But he's the he's he's the one on one. Yeah, he's Prince. Right. Like that's what I'm saying. Like, how do you I got you? I'm saying the same thing you're saying. He's Prince. Gotcha. Right? Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, how do you? I gotcha. I gotcha.

Starting point is 01:02:47 I'm saying the same thing you're saying, I think. Yeah. So that's a very important thing. So anyways, if anyone watching ever wants to do social media, make your ideas the purple cow. Don't just be the cow. Yeah. We'll blend in.

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Starting point is 01:07:00 I think people think we make content for kids and like, you know, but. Oh, that's a great one. Yeah. That's a great answer. Yeah. And it's a lot of because I've been famous, famous air quotes, I don't know, but for a while now. And the thing is, when I was like in my young, like 20 years, I'm 26 now, when I was like

Starting point is 01:07:20 20 or 21, I didn't have much experience with storytelling or making these videos with contestants and how to show what they were feeling or anything. So back then the videos came across a little ADHD, fast-paced or whatever, because I had Christopher Nolan as a father teaching me. I was just learning storytelling as I was going. So a lot of my videos back then got a lot of views, and same when I was like 22 or 23.

Starting point is 01:07:44 But the last three years, we've really leveled up the storytelling and building characters, So a lot of my videos back then got a lot of views and like same when I was like 22 or 23. But you know, the last three years, we've really leveled up the storytelling and building characters and especially the last 18 months and gotten better at like making content that, you know, people in their 20s and 30s would be like, well, this is like good and could enjoy. But because a lot of people haven't seen my newer videos

Starting point is 01:08:01 and watched my older ones, they still think all my videos are like that. So they just kind of like push it off. So like when someone says like, ah, your videos are too ADHD and you don't have any storytelling, I'll usually like show them like one or two of our newer videos.

Starting point is 01:08:13 I was like, oh my God, this is great. And I was like, yeah, let me guess, you just haven't seen a video in two years. I was like, yeah. And so that kinda is a little bit of a misconception I'm constantly fighting. Yeah, is that you're still like this kind of just entertainment for kids or that you're entertainment,

Starting point is 01:08:27 your ability to entertain is also still junior. Yeah, exactly. And so, which obviously younger people watch the videos. Oh yeah, great. I mean, I think like anyone, you know, could watch that bunker video and be like, whoa, this is just high quality entertaining stuff. It's not like you have to be- Oh, I love that.

Starting point is 01:08:42 Yeah, it's not like you have to be- The child inside of me liked it and the adult inside of me liked it. Exactly. So that would be one. I guess the other misconceptions of it is like, I mean, it looks like a lot of these videos just, you know, it just looks like me and the boys having fun

Starting point is 01:08:59 because that's what I want it to look like. I want to put the boys in an environment where they're just themselves and things like that. I think people think what I do is a lot easier than it is like like these things are monster monumental projects that are a pitch to fucking do and it's like You know, and you know a hundred plus million people are gonna watch it and you know, like so everything's just got to be fucking great And perfect and but we don't have years to do these things We're trying to do what most people would do in a year in two months

Starting point is 01:09:24 so it's like, you know, it is tight timelines and it's just, we don't have the budgets of these giant studios or anything when we're doing these YouTube videos. And it's just, it's very, very difficult. You know what I mean? Like I have hundreds of employees full time. You do?

Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah, that depend on that YouTube channel. You know what I mean? At MrBeast Productions? Yeah, I don't even know if we have, I guess MrBeast Studios. But yeah, it's just a lot of pressure because it's, yeah, it's just a lot of people depend on it. And it's just absurd to think that I have all these employees

Starting point is 01:09:53 and we're spending all this money. And I just assume like the magical YouTube algorithm when I post this video is just gonna give it to a hundred million people every single time. And it's like, it's just like, that's a lot of stress. And it's like, it's a lot of people who, you know, watch the, it's just a lot of everything. It's a lot of pressure, a lot of stress.

Starting point is 01:10:10 And it's like, if I don't film, then there's no video. So it's also not a typical business because, you know, you can, any other company, you can replace basically anyone. And you are the business. Exactly. I am like literally, if I'm just like, yo, for the next month, I don't want to film. The business debt. Do you know what I mean? So it's like'm just like, yo, for the next month I don't wanna film. The business is dead. Do you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:10:27 So it's like, yeah, I wouldn't, it's a lot, it's just a lot. No, it seems like a lot. But did you know it was gonna be that much stress? Do you find that you like the stress? Like I remember even just for myself, right? Like we have responsibilities now. We do like six episodes a month now.

Starting point is 01:10:46 And at first I remember I could barely do one episode a week was tough. And some weeks it still is, but then some days I'll go through and it's like, this just starts to feel easier. I start to kind of acclimate to where I am. And then there's a part of my brain that's like, okay, well now what can we do? But that same part of my brain is just the brain that, that forgets like fucking, we barely just got to this place, and are we even OK here, right?

Starting point is 01:11:09 So it's tough for me to monitor the different parts of my brain, the one that wants to do more or try new things, and the one that also wants to make sure we're OK where we're at and not forget. And be happy. Right. And be happy, yeah. It's like, yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:23 So most of the time I work now, it's like, I guess what my question is like, fuck, I don't know what it is, man. Do you know what it is? I get what you're trying to ask. It's like, how do you, which side of the pendulum are you swinging? Between being stressed and wanting to die constantly

Starting point is 01:11:37 or like prioritizing being happy and like that basically? Yeah, and are you able to battle that? Do you know, did you know you were as competitive in, and or do you think you're competing against like the algorithm or you want people to see it? Like, you know, what is that thing that you're able to notice like, cause I don't even know sometimes what drives me to do things

Starting point is 01:11:54 or even want to learn more. Yeah, I would say I, like you, I'm just incredibly, incredibly, incredibly competitive. I just love winning and I, it's, the thing is, I think people have a misconception. They try to put everyone, especially famous people, in a box where it's like, this is what motivates them and this one reason is why they do everything. And I believe you can be motivated by multiple things.

Starting point is 01:12:16 One thing that pushes me is the fact that a lot of my friends I grew up with work for me. And I don't want to ever have to fire them because we can't afford to pay them. I have people who moved across the world to with work for me. And I don't want to ever have to fire them because we can't afford to pay them. I have people who moved across the world to come work for me. So that's one thing that motivates me, being able to provide for the people who risked everything.

Starting point is 01:12:32 Another thing that motivates me is I just love entertaining people. And the fact that I get to entertain 100 million people or 200 million people or whatever it is, I think our average videos are doing 200 million views in the first year. Like I know that's a thing that won't last forever, right? I mean, at some point, you know,

Starting point is 01:12:48 I'm not gonna be able to upload something and 3% of the humans alive are gonna watch it. You know what I mean? So part of it is I wanna make sure I'm like taking advantage of the opportunity I have here. Because this is like, and when I'm 40, I can't expect that, you know what I mean? Like, and so that's one.

Starting point is 01:13:02 And another one is like, it just, for whatever reason, it just is like built in my blood. Like this is just what I do. Like working is just what I live for. And like, I don't really know what else to do with my life. Like it just, I'm just a machine that goes and if I'm not working on something like stimulating and pushing and innovating, I just kind of get depressed.

Starting point is 01:13:22 And like, I'm like, why am I alive? What am I doing? You know, you get that from one of your folks, you think? No, I've just kind of always been like this. My mom hates it because I don't really celebrate wins or anything. I just always grinding on things.

Starting point is 01:13:35 And yeah, I don't know. I think just some people are hardwired like that. And I think but I. I think you just got to be who you are like that. It just is who I am, but there's there's other people who you are. Like that, it just is who I am, but there's other people who see my lifestyle because I've talked about it on podcasts and a lot of creators wanna be like me

Starting point is 01:13:51 and then they end up scaling up bigger teams and they end up trying to do videos like me and then they find out they're miserable and they fucking hate it and it's too much stress and pressure. And so I wouldn't advise this for most creators, right? Like I don't have work-life balance, I just work. You don't?

Starting point is 01:14:07 No, I just, I mean, I'm, like there are some months where I film 28 days. Wow. And I still have to run Feastables, I still do, you know, film 28 days on the main channel, then I film for our Peaceful Anthem channel, I still film stuff for TikTok, because we have over 100 million followers to TikTok,

Starting point is 01:14:21 and I have to do stuff on Instagram, I still have to network and do these things. And it's like, I mean, it's basically if my eyes are open, I'm there to work. It's like, you know, I have a person whose job is just to help me basically write everything I want to accomplish on a whiteboard. I mean, it will take up the size of this wall.

Starting point is 01:14:38 And it's like all my priors and things I could be doing, things I should be doing, things other people need me to be doing. And then, you know, we'll just go in the next seven days, I'll circle all the things I want to do ancillary on top of what naturally I have to do. And and then he'll just like schedule out basically every second. My eyes are open. Wow. And and which is good because it helps me.

Starting point is 01:14:58 I sometimes fall into a trap of being reactive, like, you know, my content, you know, channel needs me to film this. This needs festivals, needs me to do this. And but, you know, you content, you know, channel needs me to film this, this needs, Feastables needs me to do this. And, but, you know, you're never going to achieve something great if you're just constantly like, like a ping pong ball being told what you need to do by your employees. So occasionally you need to be proactive and do other things that, you know, other people wouldn't think of and be a little bit more of a visionary.

Starting point is 01:15:17 So doing that kind of helps make sure I'm prioritizing things correctly and things like that. Well, it's interesting because in the beginning, you're kind of working for yourself because you're the creator. But then you build an audience, and then you start to work for the audience in a weird way, right? Yeah, yeah. And there's no judgment against that,

Starting point is 01:15:33 but I just noticed that in my own life. In the beginning, I'd give anything to have an audience. But it's more like me. It felt like me being me. But then it also starts to feel like you now, now you have the audience. Now you have somebody to work for. Yeah, because you technically somebody to work for. Yeah, you, yeah, because you technically

Starting point is 01:15:46 couldn't just 180 and like, you know, because if you did, you'd lose your audience. And so yeah, I guess technically you're working for them in a way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say, what did you learn about being a boss? Like, because I never wanted to be like

Starting point is 01:15:59 having any employees, right? I never even wanted to be an employee. I didn't wanna have any employees. I wanted to have pizza wanted to be an employee. I didn't want to have any employees. I wanted to have pizza, you know. Sounds like the life. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I want to live in a park. But what I'm saying is,

Starting point is 01:16:15 oh shit, hold on, I know what it is. I think that, what did you learn about yourself like about being a boss? Like I learned that if I don't show up in a comfortable way then it affects how my employees are. I've learned that I have to communicate better as to what I want, because people don't just know what I want, right?

Starting point is 01:16:32 Those are some things that I've learned, learned in the hard way, kind of. Were there things that you've learned just about being a boss? Oh, I mean, of course. Because I went from one to, I think now across everything I employ over 400 people. So full time. So it's like, yeah, I mean that when I first started hiring people, I was I was 19.

Starting point is 01:16:49 So like, or not maybe even 18. So I was a teenager with no idea. I mean, yeah, you asked what I learned. I mean, at the start, I literally went to this. How stupid I was when I was a teenager. I literally went to a comedy club or whatever comedy. Tariq, what was it comedy? It was just the open mic.

Starting point is 01:17:06 Open mic, yeah, Tariq was one of the people I hired there. It's funny, he's still here seven days later, or seven years later, but I went to an open mic and I was just like, you know, I want my YouTube channel to be a little funnier. So I'm just gonna go hire some random comedians at an open mic. So I just went to one and then I just was like

Starting point is 01:17:22 riding on like a notepad every time they made me laugh, the comed convenience and then the ones that made me laugh the most they just afterwards went backstage I was like, yeah, you want a job? You want to help me make YouTube videos and that's how I first started hiring and then after that I went into like my local Best Buy, you know, like the electronic store this I meant Fucking stupid, but I didn't know what I was doing Like obviously if you want to hire, you should just go find production people or people with creative experience or whatever, not go into a local Best Buy.

Starting point is 01:17:48 And I hired like seven people in my local electronic store. And so I have like this ragtag group of comedians and this ragtag group of people who sell fucking laptops. And I'm like, yo, mixed in with some people I just hired from my high school. And I'm like, and we're making these videos that are getting views and like I'm scaling up. and I'm like, you know, I'm like, guys, let's give my three million subscribers three million

Starting point is 01:18:09 pennies. And they're like, how the fuck do we get three million pennies? I'm like, I don't know. And we're just like brute forcing shit. And I mean, it was an absolute dumpster fire. I didn't know what I was doing because I wish I had a mentor or something. But then after a while, I realized, oh, maybe I should hire people who have a little bit of experience in this field,

Starting point is 01:18:27 not laptop salesmen and comedians. And over time we kind of, I started to figure it out. But you stayed in motion, it sounds like too though. Like you kept, you were like, this is how I do it. I need something funny. I'll go to a place that has funny. I need a guy who can, you know, sell refrigerators, but talk about also iPods, right?

Starting point is 01:18:45 I'll go to a Best Buy, right? Yeah, the Best Buy is the dumbest thing I've ever done in my life. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Because some of those people are just smoking weed and wearing a shirt they're not even clocked in. Yeah, it was- Like wearing a blue shirt.

Starting point is 01:18:56 It was not the highest quality people. One of them ended up being a convicted felon too, and I didn't even realize it when I hired him. But yeah, so I was just like, oh, you know, if Best Buy hired them, I'm sure they do, they're fine. Yeah. I was supposed to do background checks when I was a teenager.

Starting point is 01:19:14 Obviously we do that now. But yeah, I mean everything. I didn't know how payroll worked or taxes. I didn't know what a CFO was or bookkeeping. So it's just like a lot. And I just had to learn it through trial and error, but we have an audience the whole time. So it's not like I can just pause things and then like go,

Starting point is 01:19:31 oh, let me just get rid of all these best buying comedians and replace them for real people. So I have to keep filming, but these videos we're filming are videos no one's ever done before. So these are really complicated things that are constantly going wrong. Like I think back then, like one in three videos I filmed,

Starting point is 01:19:43 just like I didn't like it. So I scrapped it or it got fucked up when we were filming it or whatever, because like these were just big spectacles and we just didn't have the team for it. And I was reinvesting everything. And like, there was one time where I like, I accidentally overspent and we were like

Starting point is 01:20:01 negative $200,000. That's a lot. Yeah, my mom was like losing her fucking mind. And I was like, it's fine, mom. I'll just, next month, I think we'll make like, you know, 200 grand or whatever. And I'll just like spend a little less. And I will dig out of this hole.

Starting point is 01:20:15 Like she hated it. Cause she was helping with the finances? Well that, but we just didn't have money growing up. And so like, like when, when I wanted to, like when I think one month we made like $100,000 and she was like, very adamant. She's like, just put 20% away. Just let me build a nest egg, this and that.

Starting point is 01:20:33 And I was like, no, actually I was thinking of just giving like $100,000 to Twitch streamers. I think that'd be a good video people would like. And she's like, for 10 hours straight, it was like, why not give him 80,000? It's like, because I, and this is where, I'm a lot better at communicating now than I was back then.

Starting point is 01:20:50 I was like, I mean, you're talking, like this is a guy who grew up with pimples, didn't communicate much, sat in his room and fucking worked on YouTube videos and obsessed over, you know, business and entrepreneurship where everyone else just wanted to watch South Park. And so I, I didn't relate to anyone. So my social skills, like skills were negative 10,000.

Starting point is 01:21:05 So I was horrible at communicating things. I just be like, and like in hindsight, it's kind of obvious. But at the time, like there's a huge language barrier between me and my mom, because all that existed in this brain was make the best of it was possible. You know, and she didn't fully get that. I like that was that was it. I was I was a robot that that that is what I live for. And I was a I was not a human at that time.

Starting point is 01:21:25 And so I was just like, if we made 100 grand, why would I not spend the 100 grand on videos? And she'd be like, put some away. And I was like, but if I put it away, I would just spend it on other videos. So why can't I just spend it on videos now? And we would just do that hours every single day. You're like, if I put away 20 grand,

Starting point is 01:21:41 you know that I'm only gonna be able to make 80% of the best video I could make at that time. You know, it's just, and we're not gonna do that. Why am I putting the money away? Right. I was like, mom, I- To not make a good video? Exactly, I was like, mom, my rent is like $350. The car's fine.

Starting point is 01:21:56 Yeah. I was like, why do we need to put away? And she just be like, and I also didn't fully realize this, but you know, she would even get trauma to like 2008 when they lost everything and went bankrupt. And so she was like, we got to save some. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so that's what would make it intense. And I didn't fully understand it at the time either. So it would like get her to the point where she would cry because I would reinvest everything.

Starting point is 01:22:18 She just like didn't want what happened to her in 2008 to happen to me. And I just like didn't care at all. I just like, wow't care at all. I just like, trust me, videos. And so that was a thing for a very long time, but eventually she got to the point where she's like, you know what, I'll just trust you. And that's when things got great.

Starting point is 01:22:36 Cause then like it helped my relationship with her a lot cause she started stressing less and she just believes, you know, I got it. She's like, Jim, you'll figure this out. Exactly. And like- Mr. Beast, son beast. Yeah, when shit happens, she just goes, I know, I got it. She's like, Jimmy, you'll figure this out. Exactly. And like, Mr. Beast's son, Beast. Yeah, when shit happens, she just goes, I know you'll figure it out.

Starting point is 01:22:49 I'm like, thanks. Like, no need for you to cry or freak out. Like, I got this. Wow. Did you ever do something nice for your mom? Something, did you guys ever go to a concert together or something? Y'all like to do anything together?

Starting point is 01:23:01 Right now, I don't really get any time off. So we joke like, in 10 years, all the things we'll do when like things kind of cool off. But no, she gets it. She actually sent me a message, like I think it was like four days ago, like a really long message saying how like, she was very grateful that she still gets to work with me

Starting point is 01:23:19 and do things with me and how like most people in my position would like push their mom away. But we do a lot of our bonding is like doing work stuff and things like that, because it's like then it's like something I truly care about. You know, like if we went to a concert, like she would see through that facade. She would know I'm not doing that because I care. Just doing it to like check a box. So but when we work together, it's like genuinely fulfilling and it's cool to like.

Starting point is 01:23:40 She likes to work too. Yeah. Well, it the stuff she was doing when we're building the business. No, that was very stressful. Now we have it to stuff that's a little more chill and where it's cool to like. She likes to work too. Yeah, well, the stuff she was doing when we're building the business, no, that was very stressful. Now we have it to stuff that's a little more chill and where it's fun. Like, you know, we have hundreds of employees that have Divi cards and all these things. And so we have a lot of bank accounts, you know,

Starting point is 01:23:55 how do you know, you know, someone's not just stealing money. Of course, yeah, for sure. Who else can you trust besides your mom to control the master accounts? Because at some point there's a master key as someone who could, I mean, if they wanted to just withdraw a million dollars

Starting point is 01:24:06 and just fucking run to Mexico, right? You know, so like that's like a really big thing that I counted my mom just to like manage the accounts and make sure there's no fraud and stuff like that. Cause I don't fucking know. Like, um, and things like that. Um, but yeah, it's, uh, it's been a, it's been a fun journey. And so, yeah, I'm very grateful for my mom. It's kind of crazy that, like,

Starting point is 01:24:26 moms just put 18 years of their life just pouring everything into building up this human. And it's a risk, dude. You're like, this human, and most humans, look up most humans or whatever. Wait, most humans? It's a shaky business, just being a human. I know, and then they just unleash you in the wild and then you just move on.

Starting point is 01:24:46 And it's like, it's just wild. It's really a crazy premise, you know? Yeah, because I'm thinking about how like, you know, when I love to spoil my mom, because I'm like, you just like, gave everything for 18 years, especially after 2008 and all this stuff, you know, worked multiple jobs just so I could like, at the time, what you thought was just be a brat and work on YouTube videos and you thought, you know, just basically it almost would have seemed my purpose in life was to make it as miserable as possible,

Starting point is 01:25:13 yet you kept raising me and didn't give up on me. And it's like, so I think of that and then I'm like, fuck, I need to spoil my mom. It's like, you know, like I think of a different parallel universe where I'm not in this position. It's like, damn, I would never have been able to like repay her for all that. Spoiler as much. Yeah. Or spoiler as much. There's been recently like in the news and stuff. I'm not as abrupt on it, but there was like,

Starting point is 01:25:36 they were trying, it seemed like they were trying to like poke holes in you guys's company and stuff. Yeah. But a lot of it, like, there were, I don't know if there was like, different allegations and stuff against, if it was against you or your company, but none of it, from what I've seen, there was never any, like, validity to it, right? Do you believe that there was actually something

Starting point is 01:26:02 going on at your company that was bad, or do you believe that other people actually something going on at your company that was bad? Or do you believe that other people, like at a certain point, if your company's doing so well, that other companies are outside dark interests, get upset and try to lead reporters or create a negative buzz? Is that a crazy question? Does that make sense?

Starting point is 01:26:21 No, no, it's accurate. The thing is, again, I have hundreds of employees that I employ full time, but I've also hired hundreds of people in the past. And sometimes, like, you know, sometimes we have hundreds of contractors just working on singular videos because the sets are so big. So we work with lots of people.

Starting point is 01:26:36 It's impossible for there never to be anything negative. You know, that's why we have HR and things like that. So no, I mean, it would be crazy to say there's never been any issues where no one that's ever worked for me has ever been unhappier or, you know, one employees never said anything, you know, dumb to some other employee that made them want to complain or things like that. So, but I think the thing is, it's just obviously completely blown out of proportion. Like, that's not a thing that's just particular to us.

Starting point is 01:27:03 Any company with hundreds of employees, obviously there's gonna occasionally be something someone says is something that's inappropriate or something that's not ideal, but that's where when we're made aware of it, we obviously have HR look into it, or if it's something serious, we'll bring in an outside third party, have them look into it and just tell us what to do.

Starting point is 01:27:19 You know what I mean? And it's weird for you because if something happens at Nike, then it's like there's an issue, there's something happened at Nike. But if something happens at Nike, then it's like there's something happened at Nike. But if something happens at a production company and you are basically the business, then a lot of it probably just feels. Yeah, like I have people on my employ

Starting point is 01:27:34 that I've never met in my life. I probably never will. I mean, because we just have so many people and some of them don't work in my hometown and things like that. So yeah, I mean, the answer is like, yeah, it's absurd to think that, you know, hundreds of people or sometimes over a thousand

Starting point is 01:27:49 when we scale up contractors working together all these hours that there'll never be any issues. And yeah, all I can really do is make sure I'm not creating an environment where we're influencing that, which we're doing our best. And like, and then when those kinds of things happen, just bring in someone to look into it and just be like, yo, tell me what to do,

Starting point is 01:28:08 because I'm a fucking YouTuber, you know what I mean? Yeah, if someone says something like, hey there darling or whatever, and then that person feels like that was inappropriate, I don't wanna be the judge of that. I don't want someone in my company to be the judge of that. I wanna bring someone in and be like, yo, talk to them, gather the facts,

Starting point is 01:28:24 and you tell me what I'm supposed to do, which is what we do, and that's all I really can do. You know? Yeah. Yeah, it would seem like, God, it would just seem like so much stuff is out of your hands when it's gotta be tough when you're a creator, you know, because you wanna be, do every,

Starting point is 01:28:37 you know, you kinda wanna do everything and have it as a business scales. It's kinda tough because you can't, you know? What else did I wanna ask you about? Oh, I wanted to ask you about. Oh, I wanted to ask you about- Oh, he's got the flashcards. Sorry, dude. No, no, it's cool.

Starting point is 01:28:48 I went as long as I could. That's about, that was a long for me. So yeah, like you've had, like we were talking earlier about like philanthropy. So you had, like you've taken plastics out of the ocean. You've put, help people with eyesight. You put the water, you've done water wells in Africa or Zambia? Oh yeah, in Africa. 100 wells all across Africa.

Starting point is 01:29:15 Is there like an overall goal of like a big crazy vision you see for the future of like some sort of philanthropic idea? For us or just in general? Yeah, just in general could be anything. Well, the thing I've been focusing most of my time on in that area recently is so for feasts, obviously chocolate is made of cocoa. There's a lot of unethical stuff that goes on a cocoa farm. So I don't know if you're aware of that. Look, I've used, yeah, it depends on what kind of farms we're talking about.

Starting point is 01:29:44 But I, yeah, there you're aware of that. A lot of times. Look, I've used, yeah, it depends on what kind of farms we're talking about. But I, yeah. There's some definitely, yeah. In West Africa. So majority of the world's cocoa comes from Cote d'Ivoire, Ghana. It's like, I believe, like 70% of the world's cocoa. Cote d'Ivoire? Cote d'Ivoire. Cote d'Ivoire.

Starting point is 01:30:01 Cote d'Ivoire, yeah. Cote d'Ivoire. Yeah. Cote d'Ivoire. Yeah, and then Ghana. They're on the left. Oh, and Ghana. Cote d' Yeah. Kotevar. Yeah. And then Ghana.

Starting point is 01:30:06 Oh, and Ghana. Kotevar and Ghana. Yeah. Two countries are on the left side of Africa. Kind of like where the round part right there is like the perfect place to go grow cocoa. And so, but 46% of the labor on farms there, which is where almost all the cocoa in the world comes from, is child labor. So it's like pretty, pretty like just a lot of things going on there.

Starting point is 01:30:23 And so that's where I've been focusing a lot of my attention because obviously we just a lot of things going on there. And so that's where I've been focusing on my attention, because obviously we need a lot of cocoa for feastables. And so we used to get our cocoa from Peru, which ethical sourcing is not as big of a problem over there. And we use a lot of family owned farms and blah, blah, blah. But the thing is, there's not enough cocoa comes from Peru to supply big chocolate. And I wanted to show like, so saying I ethically sourced my cocoa from Peru

Starting point is 01:30:47 doesn't really prove anything because big other chocolate companies will just go, okay, but we can't do that. There's not enough cocoa in Peru. So like that doesn't count. It's not possible to ethically source cocoa in West Africa. So, and I knew if Feastables kept growing eventually, we'd have to switch over there.

Starting point is 01:31:04 So this past year, we switched our supply chain over there and we've been just working with, have you ever heard of Tony Shacalone? Probably not. Tony Shacalone? Yeah. No, and is it a real person? Well, it's a reporter who went like super deep

Starting point is 01:31:16 in exposing like the chocolate industry and chocolate. Really interesting guy? Yeah, yeah. And then, but, and he was like, and no chocolate companies would ethically source their cocoa and he kept exposing them and none of them were doing it. Would he be a cool guest, you think? Yeah, yeah,, but, and he was like, and no chocolate companies would ethically source their cocoa and he kept exposing them and none of them were doing their. Let's have him on, would he be a cool guest, you think?

Starting point is 01:31:28 Yeah, yeah, he would be awesome. Wow, it sounds crazy. I didn't know there was bad chocolate out there. Yeah, so he started his own chocolate company to prove that you could ethically source it and he called it Tony's Chocolate Lonely because it's the lonely chocolate brand. Oh yeah, I've seen those.

Starting point is 01:31:39 Yeah, Badass Baller Company. And so I've been working with them to figure out how we can also ethically source our chocolate because they're the only ones really doing it. Clean cocoa, dude. Yeah, so we built a supply chain with them. And so all our farmers were Fairtrade certified and then we pay our farmers a living income

Starting point is 01:31:58 because a big reason why there's child labor is because farmers in West Africa just don't make enough money. So that is like, if you're to rank the issues, like the number one issue is just income. Like they just can't even afford to hire adults. You know, they don't make enough. So what they do and what we're doing for festivals is we pay,

Starting point is 01:32:15 there's a living income reference price where they basically look at the cost of bread, the cost of living, cost of inflation, blah, blah, blah. And they go, if a farmer were to sell you a metric ton of beans, if they don't get paid this number, then they won't be able to make a living income. They won't be able to live, which then means they'll be forced to use child labor because if not, it's like they're, that's the only way they'll be able to survive.

Starting point is 01:32:36 Right, so they have to have children working. Yeah, so they need to make, and I'm paraphrasing this in my high stuff, but they need to make this theoretical number, which is living in income reference price. And so that's what we guarantee our farmers. So if like they theoretically sell us the cocoa, a metric ton of cocoa for less than that,

Starting point is 01:32:52 we'll pay a premium on top and be like, no, here's extra money. This is what you need to make so you can actually live. But we don't want child labor on the farm. So we'll guarantee you'll make this much, but I don't want to see fucking nine-year-old Timmy on the cocoa farm. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:33:08 So that's like the big thing. And then they have farm coaches that, because another way to help farmers make more money is not just pay them more, but it's also helped them get more yield out of their farms. So they have coaches that will help counsel them and theoretically try to help them get five or 10% more yield out of the same hectares they have.

Starting point is 01:33:26 Occasionally give them some supplies. It's like very like all about getting it because it's an income problem for a lot of them while they're using child labor. You could go to the farm and be like, stop using child labor. But if they can't afford... If they can't survive, if the family can't eat, if the kids don't also work. Yeah. So that's that's been a big journey.

Starting point is 01:33:45 I actually spent recently a week in Ghana, just going through the whole supply chain. So I worked on the farm, you know, and then you laid the, cracked the pods, laid out to dry and then saw like where they dry and then where they store the beans and even how like the government like does QC on the beans. Went through the whole thing all the way to the ship,

Starting point is 01:34:01 just like, so this has been the last year, probably like a good fucking chunk of my time has been going to like figure out ethical sourcing with them because it's very expensive, you know, so I just wanna make sure we're doing it right. Yeah. And also that's a way of, that's really a big form of philanthropy itself

Starting point is 01:34:19 because, you know, just teaching these people how to do, how to have more success in their own lives. I mean, that kind of stuff is huge. You teach one person in an area and then they can be a leader and teach other people. It's like, you don't even know that's kind of the residual effects of that. Well, the bigger thing is, I hope to,

Starting point is 01:34:34 like, I hope to get it where, if Feastables keeps growing, where we can be like, look, we're a big chocolate company and we're ethically sourced and we're profitable. So then we can look at other big chocolate companies and go, you have no excuse. Right. Right now they can all just say it's impossible. You don't understand, you know, you don't have scale at companies our size. This is like this is a fairy tale dream. But because no one's doing it, you know, that's actually doing serious revenue.

Starting point is 01:34:59 So if we can get to that point where theoretically we're selling a billion dollars a year of chocolate and it's ethically sourced and is profitable, then they have no excuse. Exactly, and so, like, cause there's over a million kids in child labor and on cocoa farms in West Africa right now. Yeah, and like, Feastables itself is not gonna be able to get

Starting point is 01:35:15 all a million out, but if we could theoretically get tens of thousands of kids out of child labor, and then use that in my platform and stuff like this to bully everyone else, then hopefully that can create a snowball that gets hundreds of thousands of kids out each other. I love that. Big chocolates going down, boy.

Starting point is 01:35:29 I like that. I hate three musketeers, I'll say it out loud. And when people eat them, and I'll say this, when people eat them, I judge them. No comment, I don't want to get sued. Yeah? I'm just saying I don't like them. Yeah, he does not like three musketeers.

Starting point is 01:35:44 And I can say that, can I? Yeah, you can say that. Yeah. I don't like him. Yeah, he does not like three musketeers. And I can say that, can I? Yeah, you can say that. Yeah. I don't like him. I can say I don't like three musketeers either, not because of anything, just I don't like them. Oh no, I don't know any other behaviors. I don't know what they're doing

Starting point is 01:35:55 before they mail it to me or whatever. I don't like it, I never have liked it. And I don't even believe in it, which is also a way that I feel about it. Like when I open it up, I don't even believe in it. And Paydays, the nuts aren't any good in them anymore. And they were better when they were not. Yeah, Paydays, I feel like if they had like

Starting point is 01:36:13 a little more saltiness, a little more nuts, those things would be the bomb. Yeah, the chewy stuff in the middle is just a little too overpowering now, I agree. Yeah. Paydays are like so close to being a phenomenal product. Yep, and the nuts used to be a little more, they had more edges on them.

Starting point is 01:36:25 They looked like more nuts. Bro, I relate. I had a payday recently. I thought the same thing. I was like this like fucking shit in the middle. It's just not, there's no flavor. I want more fucking salt. It fell off for me and I don't know when. My mom used to get them sometimes. It would be like a special thing that she would get, but she would let us watch her eat them. I'm going to tell you this.

Starting point is 01:36:43 Did you ever dealt with like, you're so big on YouTube, do you ever deal with sanctions and stuff on there? Have you had to deal with that? Is that a conversation you have with them? Sanctions? Like, or do, or they say like you can't do certain things? Like, do you have to like submit all your videos and like go through a process like that?

Starting point is 01:36:58 Well- Can we even talk about that? No, we can, we can talk about the conspiracy theorists are gonna run away with this, but a lot of there's a when there's like a higher ad What is it when you get bigger? There's like a Google preferred or whatever where it's like for bigger advertisers like coke or whatever Like premium advertisers, they want to make sure they're not advertising on you know bad content So like for bigger channels YouTube if they'll review your video before it goes up just to make sure it's clean and you're not just like saying Hitler a thousand times to make sure it's good for bigger advertisers.

Starting point is 01:37:32 So they review it for that, but they do that for, I believe, thousands of creators right now, which, you know, but you don't have to do that. It just helps you get higher ad rates. But no, I mean, I just post whatever they don't know what I'm doing or anything. And they're pretty chill. Do you think they're in a tough position? With what? Just like having to set up parameters for different videos and like the effect that it could have on certain people and that sort of thing? Like, I always just think about it from my perspective. I'm always like, well, we're upset.

Starting point is 01:37:59 You know, sometimes like, oh, they'll make us take a joke or this joke or this sort of thing. They may not, you know. Well, the thing is, they're not making you take it out. They're just saying if you don't take it out, you won't get higher ad rates. That's a good point. Think of any brand that spends a billion dollars

Starting point is 01:38:10 in your marketing. That's them saying, hey, YouTube, if any of these things are in a video, we don't want to be on it. And YouTube's just going, hey, take this out, or we can't put these premium ads on you, which I think makes perfect sense. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:38:21 Sometimes I only look at it from my perspective. I'm not able to look at it from like, oh, also, this is a platform where they allow us to put our stuff up. Exactly. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes I only look at it from my perspective. I'm not able to look at it from like, oh, also, this is a platform where they allow us to put our stuff up. Exactly. And then, so they also are trying to do business as well. Yeah. You know?

Starting point is 01:38:32 What else do we have here? We're almost done. I mean, we can keep going. I'm having fun. You don't drink, right? I've maybe drank like five times in my life. I don't like the way it makes me feel. Is it out of control that it makes you feel you think?

Starting point is 01:38:45 No, it just like, well, so I didn't drink alcohol until I was like 23 or 24. I wanted to stay the fuck away from it because I have a very addictive personality. So my goal is to go my entire life without ever drinking alcohol. But then I was like with Logan Paul one time or I was at it. I was at a casino gambling and then Logan Paul was there. And then he was like, let's hang out. And then- Was it a UFC fight or something?

Starting point is 01:39:08 I don't even remember. It might've been like flame Mayweather versus Conor McGregor or something. Oh yeah. I don't know. But so I was like, okay, let's, we can gamble together. And then we're walking to like the tables and he stops by a club.

Starting point is 01:39:19 He's like, let's just go in here and be one minute. I was like, oh my God, I fucking hate clubs. They're so boring. So I go in there, one minute turns into like two hours, and I'm just so fucking bored, and I just caved. I was like, okay, I need to just drink, and I'd never drank in my life, but I'm like, something, I need something, I'm dying. And then I-

Starting point is 01:39:34 A lot of people need to drink to be around the polls. Yeah, so that's when I, like, that was the time I did it, and then I was just like, oh, I just kind of like, feel weird, but it's not a happy word, it's just like, I just don't like it. They don't dig it. Yeah. Yeah, I think people, I think it's getting less and less popular in the world, kind of, especially with like feel weird, but it's not a happy word. It's just like, I just don't like it. And then. You don't dig it.

Starting point is 01:39:47 Yeah. Yeah, I think people, I think it's getting less and less popular in the world kind of, especially with like younger generations. It's just like, they just think it's kind of dumb. Yeah, it just, I don't know. I don't know how to describe it. It's like, it just makes me feel stupid.

Starting point is 01:40:00 And like, but not a good stupid. It's not like a happy stupid. It's like, it's just dumb. Like a waste of time. Yeah, definitely. It's not like a happy stupid. It's like, it's just dumb, like a waste of time. Yeah, definitely. I've done a lot of that. In July, you tweeted, if you were to lower the age for president that you might run,

Starting point is 01:40:14 do you still think that ever? No, no, no. I mean, I might when I'm older, but not, if they lowered it, that was mostly a joke, just because I knew people would freak the fuck out and talk about it. But I would if I were to it would probably be like when I'm like 50 or 60, because I would need to like accomplish everything I want in business and stuff and then probably take like 10 years and I'd have to go be like a do something at the local level and then the state level and work my way up.

Starting point is 01:40:44 But yeah, we'll see. But there could be potentially a president beast, you never know. Oh yeah, 100%. You never know, especially after you learn a lot. Has Elon ever reached out to you to do something cool together? Because I mean, you guys at a certain point,

Starting point is 01:40:56 you guys are both like pioneers in certain schools of thought and certainly creative folks. Yeah, I mean, he's pioneering taking us to Mars, electric cars, talking with your phone through your brain, taking tunnels, fixing traffic, you know, getting rid of a trillion dollars of waste in the government now and this and that. And I'm pioneering funny videos.

Starting point is 01:41:19 Yeah. So I don't know if I put those in, but kidding. But yeah, we bumped into each other at the Superbowl. Said hi. I think he asked me, do I think people call X Twitter still or do people call it X? And I was like, yeah, most people call it Twitter. I've noticed.

Starting point is 01:41:41 He's like, interesting. I think I was kind of like the gist of it. And then, but outside of that, no, not really. I mean, I've been in talks with people at SpaceX and even cooking ideas and things like that, but not Elon himself. Yeah. Yeah, we tried to ask if we could interview those,

Starting point is 01:41:57 the two people stuck up in that shuttle. Oh my gosh, that'd be crazy. I wanted to be the first one, cause people were like, who you want to get on your podcast? And they're like, anybody. And I was trying to think who can you not get it like oh somebody's not on earth Yeah, that's who you got to get. Yeah, that was somebody who's loitering or whatever, you know, and I love how they're not aliens But yeah, it's like alright. Do you think you could get Elon on here one day?

Starting point is 01:42:19 Do you think maybe yeah, they just they offered to send me a starlink if I want to get one So I might get one. Are you using them? Oh yeah, Starlink's amazing. Bro, when you're in fucking Zambia in the middle of nowhere, this thing only, oh it's Starlink in Antarctica was amazing. Like Antarctica, you're in the middle of nowhere.

Starting point is 01:42:35 And I mean, literally, the furthest from human civilization on the planet. And yeah, you can get internet. It was, it's such a phenomenal product. Did you see anything cool, like you need, because a lot of people say Antarctica, that they're hiding secret stuff up there, that there's that kind of energy.

Starting point is 01:42:48 Oh, boy. Yeah, Antarctica. You should go to Antarctica sometime in your life. It is. Oh, I would love to go up there. Will you let me up there? So there is like, there's, you go to South America. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:43:01 And then you get on a Boeing 747, like an actual commercial plane. You go to South America. Yeah, you go all the way to like the very bottom of Chile. Okay, because Antarctica is at the bottom. Yeah, yeah. And then you board like a commercial plane like you're flying like fucking delta here and it just starts flying and you just you fly over the ocean and then you see just this just

Starting point is 01:43:21 endless abyss of white snow and mountains. And you just keep flying deeper and deeper and deeper into it. And then you just see this just fucking ice runway. I mean, it's the sketchiest thing you'll ever see in your life. And it just lands this commercial airliner there. I had no idea of any of this going into it. I kind of went into it pretty raw. And you get off. It's just this janky little like ladder thing type B.

Starting point is 01:43:45 It's they know. Yeah. go down one image right there, that one click on it, because they have to brush all the snow off. Yeah, that's what you land on. Wow. Just ice. And then then that's not the one we went to. But then there's just this research facility where there's like three big tents that researchers work out of. And then there's like a hundred tents that they all live out of. So there's no actual terminal? No, because they're like,

Starting point is 01:44:06 so the time where it's like sun 24 seven, but then there's like these intense winters, like three or four months a year where it's like dark and you can't be there. So they have to pack everything up and leave. You can't leave anything behind. So it's like a temporary thing. And so we get out and there's all these researchers

Starting point is 01:44:22 doing experiments and cool shit. And I'm just like, hey, I'm here to film a video. So, and then a snow, so we were supposed to just be there for like two days or three days or whatever, but a snowstorm hits. So what we were gonna do is just go out in a random direction and then just set up a camp in the middle of nowhere in Antarctica

Starting point is 01:44:38 and try to survive for 50 hours. But there was an intense snowstorm. So we're just, we had to sit in these research facilities and wait them out. And one of them was so crazy. It's like this tent with like door and it like flew the door, flung it open. It was so intense that we had to like tie it, like pull the door shut because it's like like barreling snow and I'm like, my God, I think we're going to die.

Starting point is 01:45:00 Like it was crazy. They're like, we haven't had a storm like this in a while. And like you have like all these little tents that you live in and like the big communal tents for the where everyone hangs out and stuff. And the little tent, like we had to build like actual snow walls around our tent because there's so much wind blowing that like our tents would have got swept away. So we had to I had to barricade the I'm like, this is just the normal thing.

Starting point is 01:45:21 They're like, yeah, that's just what happens. And so you're like building a wall around your, your, you know, metal pole reinforced tent that you're going to sleep in. And like, when the winds would pick up at night, I'm like, fuck, it's like, is my tent just going to fly off? Like, there's nowhere to run to.

Starting point is 01:45:36 Yeah, you just run to the bigger tent, but it's like, it was crazy. You know, and also in Antarctica, probably it's like, you can't pee or shit in the snow or anything, like, because you can't leave anything behind. Like, that's massively illegal. And so everything, all your waste and stuff, you have to store and carry and hold and that kind of stuff.

Starting point is 01:45:53 Fly back with it? Well, they will, but you'll just put it in like, like a piss tank where they'll hold onto it and the shit in the shit bag that, this big shit thing they had. But also you get snow blindness because everything's white and the sun reflects so you have to wear glasses when you go outside or you'll literally blind you

Starting point is 01:46:12 which was like, that was crazy. Yeah, imagine first of all you're almost blind, can't shit. Yeah, well so you wear these like tinted glasses. What are you even doing dude? It's like you're 80 years old. It's so beautiful, though. It's like crazy to just see. You're just in the middle of nowhere.

Starting point is 01:46:29 It feels like you're on a different planet. And it was like, sometimes you just walk outside. You just walk in a direction. You just see nothing anywhere. And it was awesome. Is there a zoo or anything like that? No, there's nothing. Is there any?

Starting point is 01:46:41 No animals, nothing. No roads or nothing, huh? No, there's really nothing there. So after the snowstorm calmed down, we just went out, got on these little skis or things, went far away. But this is where it gets scary, because there's crevasses and ravines and things like that. So you could be walking and then just fall 100 feet and die.

Starting point is 01:47:01 Because the snow could have slightly piled up over a 100-foot gap in right? Because there's like the snow could have like slightly piled up over like a hundred foot gap in between the ice or things like that. So you have to have like this device go on in front of you that checks to make sure there's not just like a giant hole you're gonna fall in. You have to mark everything. So we go out in this random direction, scan everything.

Starting point is 01:47:18 And then we scanned like this little like a hundred foot square foot perimeter, put up flags. And it's like, guys, if you walk across those flags, there's a chance you'll fucking die. So boys stay within this unless we scan more areas. And then, yeah, we just started setting up tents, raw dogging it in the middle of nowhere Antarctica, far away from the research facilities.

Starting point is 01:47:36 And it was a fucking awesome experience. And then there's this mountain that no one had any records of someone climbing. So we climbed this pretty tall mountain. And so I got to name it, um, which I named it Shopify cause they sponsored the video and helped make the whole thing happen. But, but like, uh, it was crazy, man, climbing up this mountain. And I just, I had no idea how we did that. I was, it was, can you pull it up? Just like go to the 50 hours in Antarctica.

Starting point is 01:48:04 Is it nice? And there's no people, there's not like, Antarctic and you can't go to a bar or nothing, there's nothing. No, there's literally nothing. Like there's research facilities. So do you think there's crazy stuff going on down there? Like they say there's a lot of.

Starting point is 01:48:17 No, I don't think there's anything. I didn't, yeah, see look at that. Wow. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, we were deep in there. And it's super cold, huh? Yeah, it depends on the time. Well, so the problem is like when you move around

Starting point is 01:48:34 and you have so many layers, you start to heat up and then you take the clothes off and then you get really cold. Yeah, so you look where we went to. Is there a chance that at one point it was thawed out and it was a normal land and we'll be able to explore it one day and we just don't know or that's complete nothing. Well there's uh it's not straight like

Starting point is 01:48:47 those are real rocks and stuff so it's ice on top of stuff so yeah there is land um and it is crazy that oh my god yeah look at that snowstorm we got hit with so this is after we left the research facility and now we're going to set up camp and like yeah those those are the goggles you have to wear to not go blind. And then right here is where it's like a human. I did a rod kind of. Oh, that's the island. That's the mountain you named. No, no, that's just like, yeah, the mountains behind us over there.

Starting point is 01:49:15 And then this is a setting of our tents and just, I mean, we're just a bunch of stupid kids. I don't I don't know how we pulled this off. Yeah, you could have lost a kid easy. Well, yeah, obviously, we had a safety expert there. But yeah, but obviously that's it. Then just skip ahead like towards the end where you see me climbing up the mountain. It's probably it. Yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:49:32 Maybe after this or before it. I just wanted to see. Or yeah, and that's just an ice thing you're in. Yeah, keep going to the left. That igloo? No, that's the tent, but it's metal reinforced. Yeah, to the right a little bit. Yeah, right there.

Starting point is 01:49:44 Just hit it. Right click a couple or double tap. Is that a igloo? No, that's the tent, but it's metal reinforced. Yeah, to the right a little bit. Yeah, right there. Just hit it. Right click a couple or double tap. Yeah, so look at this right here. This is us climbing up the mountain. Look at those views. It's fucking gnarly. Oh, Shopify mountain. I did an ad read.

Starting point is 01:49:59 I was like, what's the most interesting time I can do an ad read? And I was like, where people wouldn't click off. I was like, you know, while I'm climbing this mountain, it'll probably be more interesting. Do you think you'll get to do a video with Kim Jong-un ever? I mean.

Starting point is 01:50:16 Like a game show to help some of his citizens? Feel like they would think it's Western propaganda. I don't think they would let me. You know, when I first started uploading in China, they're like, they called me like a American capitalist or whatever, whatever. I post my, like we posted some of our videos that like got views.

Starting point is 01:50:36 They're like this American capitalist. So we start, so I stopped posting the videos where we give away money and just more like the challenge videos and then they're like, oh, this is cool. So they just don't like the money as the goal. Yeah, I don't know. They don't want to inspire,

Starting point is 01:50:50 they don't want their people to see that. I don't know what the logic was, but I just noticed that a lot in the comments. So I was like, okay, let me just switch up what I'm posting over here. What do you watch on TV, man? You watch anything? What am I watching?

Starting point is 01:51:04 I'm about to start Penguin, that HBO show. I haven't started that yet. Oh yeah, I haven't seen that yet either. That was on the list for tonight. Honestly, I'm watching Beast Games. Like I probably watched that episode we watched earlier a hundred times. To give still notes on it. Yeah, notes, but I've also now I just get enjoyment out of watching other people watch it because that episode is mostly locked but I'm like

Starting point is 01:51:26 So good, man. Yeah, I've watched like maybe 30 people watch it So it's like my my like, uh guilty pleasure is just watching like what other people watch my show So that's awesome and to know that it's more for adults. It's like you still I think you're right I think you're perfectly right. Like when you think about mr beast, it's like, um You you there's a party that still thinks part of it's for children and it is for children. Yeah. But it's also for everyone. But Beast Games is definitely for everyone.

Starting point is 01:51:51 I mean, it's the most aged up mature stuff we've ever done. And I just, I just can't wait, man. Cause we spent over a year working on that. I told you how much money we spent on it. It was so much time and effort and like the YouTube videos you make and then you upload two months later to sit on this for so long and we have 10 episodes of a film that's like, just to put it out in the world,

Starting point is 01:52:08 we'll just, fucking awesome. God fucking dammit, I can't wait. So that's something that excites you, just to see people see it. Yeah, oh I'm so excited. I'm so, cause most people have no idea what it is and the ones that are gonna watch it and they're just, I feel like their minds

Starting point is 01:52:24 are just gonna be so fucking blown. It's great. The fact he told me everybody's on their own individual platform, and how many platforms were there? A thousand. Towers, yeah. That's crazy, bro.

Starting point is 01:52:35 Yeah, I had to build a thousand of those, and then a thousand, well, we need a 3,000 hydraulic presses, or whatever they're called, to open them, and 3,000 hydraulics, and it's like to build those and then 1000 foam pits and 1000 crash pads and then we had to rig up 1000 lightings

Starting point is 01:52:50 and 1000 GoPros and then to build all that and then the screens on the side and I mean, even just $5 million of real money having that there and all that stuff and then building the sets, and that's just one of the 10 episodes, you know what I mean? So we had to do that 10 times. Built a fucking city. Name one show who has just gone,

Starting point is 01:53:07 okay, this field, build enough housing for 500 people, build a sports facility, build two massive five story towers, build a helipad, build this, build that, build that, and make it look good in a wall. Yeah, closest thing I can think is that Angola Prison Rodeo. Have you ever heard of that? It's down in-

Starting point is 01:53:23 No. Outside of Baton Rouge. I mean, it's not like what you were talking about, but it's like they put on a pretty good event once a year down there and the prisoners are do the rodeo and. Wait, what? Yeah, the Angola prison rodeo. Angola prison. Pretty awesome if you're into that kind of stuff. But yeah, you would probably, you would definitely be able to do this way better. But just letting you know, there's a little bit of competition out there. Wait, so those are prisoners? Yep. They put them all in this

Starting point is 01:53:48 circle, right? And if you leave the circle, they send the bulls through it. If you leave the circle, you lose. Right. And what do the prisoners get out of it? I think they get like time

Starting point is 01:53:57 with a basketball or something. I don't know what the prize is. I have to look into this. This is crazy. What? Stay in there and this is he really wants that price. Right.

Starting point is 01:54:11 But yeah, just to let you know, so there is a little competition out there. Have you ever seen the last question after you mean, is you ever seen that show Hands on a Hard Body? Ever see that movie? No, hands on a hard body.

Starting point is 01:54:21 There was a car somebody somebody went to a mall. Oh, that one. The documentary, yeah. I haven't seen it, but I've heard of the last take hand off car keeps it type. Yeah. Yeah, okay, I've seen a clip of that on TikTok.

Starting point is 01:54:33 And they all have their hand on a hard body. The original one is great. Oh, there's a musical now? That's hilarious. Yeah. And the guy's like, nothing getting me to take my hand off, but he's gone. We did last take hand off of Lamborghini keeps it.

Starting point is 01:54:45 He did? Yeah, with 50 people. Well, this is how somebody trumped, somebody walked up and was like, hey, you want this chocolate bar? And I got like, I would love it. And he took it with both hands. Who takes a chocolate bar off somebody with both hands?

Starting point is 01:54:56 And he made a mistake. And he lost. Yeah, so we did one too where we took a million dollars in cash, had people put their hands on it. And I think one of the four people, I don't remember, but like, because after like 18 hours, you start to like, you know, you're not 100% focused. I think he just like reached a graph something and then was like, oh shit, and lost a million dollars. They say that the world will be changed by individuals and humans. And

Starting point is 01:55:20 sometimes you start to think that that's not going to happen, you know, that people are going to expect a government to do it. But then I think you meet somebody like you and you're like, wow, anything is maybe possible, man. I think that's kind of like a feeling that I really got spending time with you today, man. Yeah, thanks for sharing your new show with me. And is it tough for you to like, so if you have if you spend so much time

Starting point is 01:55:38 working and what it like is relationship something that's hard for you to navigate? I know you said you have a relationship. Is that a tough thing for you to drop in and also be like a regular person? Like, cause I'll notice, I'll invite a girl over and then I'll sit there and do work. Yeah. Well, that's, relationships just even outside of dating

Starting point is 01:55:56 have always been a problem for me because like, I think, this might've been a traumatic experience cause I still picture it to this day and I occasionally have dreams of it. But I remember when I was like 15 or 16, like I was so obsessed with YouTube. I remember like at lunch one time, like one person literally just looked me dead in the eyes

Starting point is 01:56:16 and said, do you know how to talk about anything besides fucking YouTube? And I, that like, and I was like, whoa. And I like, and then I was like, okay, I'm going to not talk about YouTube. And then so I just didn't talk like, and like at one point someone unironically asked me if I was mute, like, because I was just like in my head, I was like, well, people think I talk about YouTube too much. I don't know anything else besides YouTube. And so I just didn't know what to do. And it was like very like traumatic for me because I was so fucking obsessed with it growing up.

Starting point is 01:56:45 And the problem is though, right? And back then I thought, okay, I'm a freak of nature. I'm the problem. And I tried to watch South Park and I think it's a good show but I just didn't find it interesting. And my like opportunity cost brain back then was like, no, I need to be working.

Starting point is 01:57:01 This is blah, blah, blah. And so I just never related to anyone. I thought it was because I'm a freak and it's all me, me, me. But then when I was like 18 or 19 and I got a little smarter, I realized, no, it's just in my school, there just weren't people who were interested

Starting point is 01:57:14 in the same things as me. And so I was like, that's, but it is what it is. I don't need to change who I am. I just need to change the people I'm around. And that was like a big turning point for me. And so, no, I don't struggle with the relationships. Well, I mean, if you just put me in a room with someone who isn't trying to achieve anything

Starting point is 01:57:31 or doesn't want to do anything extraordinary and just wants to play video games and blah, blah, like, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't relate to him. It'd be a struggle. But you put me in a room with someone who is building a business and trying to do something cool. I mean, we could probably talk for 10 hours straight, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:57:46 So it's just all who you're around. It's just those people are pretty rare and you don't just stumble into them. You have to be very diligent to have those kind of people in your life. So yeah, just putting myself around the right kind of people has helped like crazy. And my current girlfriend, she's amazing.

Starting point is 01:58:01 She understands that, you know, growing the channel, making great content. And right now with feastables, because we're trying to build an ethical supply chain. So I'm doing this on fucking steroid hard mode and all these other things I'm trying to do. It's like, it's not easy. And like, you know, she gets it. You know, like there are just some days where I won't be able to come home. There are just some days where, you know, I'm going to film for 16 hours and I'm going to, I will come home and I don't even know if my eyes will be open.

Starting point is 01:58:25 Like I'm going to come home and just pass out because it was so intense. And so it's great. Like, and we, we communicate really well and that kind of stuff and I'm very happy. But yeah, I guess that's kind of the gist. Like, did you have to say like, will you sub, can I subscribe to your heart or something like that? Like, No, I, it's actually nice though, because one thing I've found is, because we're not robots, you do have to take time off,

Starting point is 01:58:48 even though I hate that, you can't work all the time. And so I found that in the past, I would just like, if I went eight days like really hard or nine days, like sometimes I could get it to 10 or 12 in a row, I would just like wake up and just feel like shit and crash and I need to like watch an anime or something to like decompress and blah blah. But I found like if I consistently spend time with my girlfriend, I don't like

Starting point is 01:59:09 boil up to this point where I'm so stressed and I need to crash. I'm losing my mind at a borderline going to have a mental breakdown. You know what I mean? Yeah, kind of navigate it a little bit better. Yeah, it's like, you know, because then I get these like decompression shots when I hang out with her like more consistently because it's like, you know, when you just go home alone to an empty bed, it's like, what do you do? But I just sit there and think about work. But if you have this beautiful woman, you're like, oh, this is cool.

Starting point is 01:59:30 Let's talk about things. And it's like helps you like take your mind off work. So I've noticed that's been a good benefit is like they don't I just don't have like borderline mental breakdowns as often. Yeah. Yeah. Connections. So you got to connect with people to get put in a little bit better, better place. Yeah. Yeah. Connection. So you got to connect with people. They get put you in a little bit better, better place. Yeah. Yeah. It's important. Um, uh, thanks so much, man. Thanks for spending time, dude. I'm definitely a fan. I, you know, yeah, I'd love to chat against them about

Starting point is 01:59:55 business or something. And, you know, it's funny, you meet people, sometimes you think they're, they're heroes or they're great. And sometimes once you learn about them, it's kind of like, whatever, you know, they were, they were better to see from afar. I'm sorry that I was better from afar to let you down. Maybe next time. I was gonna say, that's not the case, man. I'm excited, yeah, I'm excited for everybody to see Beast Games.

Starting point is 02:00:16 Are you ever doing a show in North Carolina? If there are children or adults, yeah, man, we'll come over there for sure, I'll invite you. Yeah, if you do a show in North Carolina, we'll be there. I'll invite you to one. Thanks so much for all the content and entertainment. I'm excited to see what you do in the future, man. I think you inspire a lot of people to-

Starting point is 02:00:29 Stop being so nice. I hate getting compliments. No, but I think it's just like anything is possible. I agree. I hate fucking giving them. That's why I'm giving them to you. I'm going to start complimenting you. This podcast was amazing.

Starting point is 02:00:37 You had great questions. It was very free flowing. I thought, you know, sometimes you just go on a podcast and it's an absolute shit show, but this one wasn't. And I think you're very exceptional at what you do. And watch your mouth. Your vernacular is very good. And I just really loved your shoes and how you did things.

Starting point is 02:00:52 And I thought your squad was pretty good. They're very welcoming. You made sure I had two cans of Celsius. That was awesome. And just all around a good environment and everything. Thanks, man. Well, we'll see about that. Mr. Beast.

Starting point is 02:01:10 Am I the only one, to close it on this, am I the only one that feels uncomfortable when people talk about you like that? Oh, I can't say it makes me really uncomfortable. I can't wait for them to get done saying something nice. And I've had to train myself to just sit there and take it because I used to always change the subject and it would make it even more uncomfortable because and it's kind of awkward. So now I've just like practice like doing this because before I noticed my default would always just be to

Starting point is 02:01:33 people start complimenting and I just changed the subject. Yeah, yeah, me too. I'll be like, oh, that's sweet of you to say we should go outdoors. That's what I'll say. Yeah, or I'd be like, yeah, interesting anyways. So it's very sweet of you. I was wondering the other day if the Jets

Starting point is 02:01:46 will win anything this year. And people were like, what are we even, you know? But yeah, it's gotten, yeah, sometimes you navigate it a little bit better as time goes on, you know? Is this brand also paying? Nope, I just like their water. Wait, so Celsius had to pay, but these guys got it for free.

Starting point is 02:01:59 Yeah, but we'd like to get a water. My goal one day is to make a water. Let's see if that makes it then. This is my goal, to get a water. My goal one day is to make a water. Let's see if that makes it in. This is my goal to make a water, right? I want to have a wellness facility for people recovering from addiction, right? And it's on land that has an aquifer so they can access water. And the people that are getting well are helping to create like a... So you employ the people with addiction so you get them out, yeah. Yeah. And then the water gets sold and the money goes to the facility.

Starting point is 02:02:26 So it's like, because so many people have been ruined by addiction that our government supported, right? Or didn't really combat like an opioid epidemic. So I'm like, well, how do you beat them and you get something everybody needs that's clean for people, which is water. And then every time they drink, buy it, they're helping somebody get clean. You know, or what if you give them drugs and they go sell drugs and then they just put their addiction to good use?

Starting point is 02:02:51 Oh, that's who you're talking about? Yeah. Yeah? I feel like that'd do better. Cause they probably know the drug landscape and other addicts really well. Oh, that's a good point. You're kind of putting them in a whole new territory.

Starting point is 02:03:02 Yeah, exactly. I feel like just lean into what they're good at. They're a drug addict. Just let them sell drugs. You know, we'll try both. We'll try both, you know? And we'll get some- All right, he's been trying to end this

Starting point is 02:03:12 for like five minutes. All right, bye. Thanks. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm falling like these leaves. I must be cornerstone. Ooh, oh, but when I reach that ground, I must be cornerstone Oh, but when I reach that ground

Starting point is 02:03:28 I'll share this piece of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take a little

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