This Past Weekend - Erik Griffin | This Past Weekend #217

Episode Date: July 25, 2019

Subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts http://bit.ly/ThisPastWeekend_ Theo sits down with the talented and hilarious Erik Griffin. Check out Riffin’ with Griffin’ https://www.youtube.com/channel.../UCI9fEg4ZCx6NsOgDpyzmX1Q This episode brought to you by… Skillshare Try 2 months free at https://Skillshare.com/TheoVon Find Theo Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend Twitter: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiEKV_MOhwZ7OEcgFyLKilw Producer Nick https://instagram.com/realnickdavis Music “Shine” - Bishop Gunn http://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunn Gunt Squad www.patreon.com/theovon Name Aaron Rasche Adam White Alaskan Rock Vodka Alex Hitchins Alex Person Alex Petralia Alex Wang Alexa harvey Andrew Valish Angelo Raygun Annmarie Reilly Anthony Holcombe Ashley Konicki Audrey Hodge Ayako Akiyama Bad Boi Benny Ben Deignan Ben in thar.. Benjamin Herron Benjamin Streit Bobby Hogan Brad Moody Brandon Brandon Kirkman Carla Huffman Charles Herbst Christian Coyne Christina Peters Christopher Becking Claire Tinkler Cody Cummings Cody Kenyon Cody Marsh Crystal Dakota Montano Dan Draper Dan Perdue Danielle Fitzgerald Danny Crook David Christopher David Smith David Witkowski Dentist the menace Diana Morton Dionne Enoch Donald blackwell Doug C Dusty Baker Fast Eddie Faye Dvorchak Felicity Black Gillian Neale Ginger Levesque Grant Stonex Greg Salazar Gunt Squad Gary J Garcia J.P. Jacob Rice Jamaica Taylor James Briscoe James Hunter Jameson Flood Jeffrey Lusero Jenna Sunde Jeremy Siddens Jeremy Weiner Jim Floyd Joaquin Rodriguez Joe Dunn Joel Henson Joey Piemonte John Kutch Johnathan Jensen Jon Blowers Jon Ross Jordan R Josh Cowger Josh Nemeyer Joy Hammonds Justin Doerr Justin L justin marcoux Kennedy Kenton call Kevin Best Kirk Cahill kristen rogers Kyle Baker Lacey Ann Laszlo Csekey Lauren Williams Lawrence Abinosa Leighton Fields Luke Bennett Madeline Matthews Mandy Picke'l Mariah Marisa Bruno Matt Nichols Meaghan Lewis Meghan LaCasse Mike Mikocic Mike Nucci Mike Poe Mona McCune Nick Roma Nikolas Koob Noah Bissell OK Qie Jenkins Ranger Rick Robyn Tatu Ryan Hawkins Ryan Walsh Sagar Jha Sarah Anderson Scoot B. Secka Kauz Shane Pacheco Shannon potts Shona MacArthur Stephen Selph Stephen Trottier Suzanne O'Reilly Theo Wren Thomas Adair Tim Greener Timothy Eyerman Todd Ekkebus Tom Cook Tom Kostya Travis Simpson Tugzy Mills Tyler Harrington (TJ) Victor Montano Victor S Johnson II Vince Gonsalves William Reid Peters Yvonne Zeke HarrisSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's guest is one of the funniest guys. I know he's a You know, he's a beautiful unique fella He you know him from probably maybe workaholics. He have a famous character on their Montez is the man and he also has been in a lot of other series and stuff he has a podcast of his own called riffing with Griffin and And and he's one of a kind and he's here today. My friend Eric Griffin Why you don't have feel water. Yeah, well looking into it. Johnny. We just ordered some hydrogen and oxygen for Johnny to mix up for us Ha ha in between his auditions for like big movies. He's here interning. What's he doing? No, he's in here. He's feeling himself. You understand like like so much. Oh, he should be a centipede. How much he feels
Starting point is 00:01:04 He's got unbelievable. Yeah I'm here, man. Thanks for having me. You bet man. We uh You know, we're happy to have you here, man. Good to see you today, bro. Are you? Yeah I don't even know what's going on. I know nothing's going on. I know what's going on. You look nice I well, you know, I said I wanted to wear my good shirt today for you. You know, actually, I just did a diss movie I do movies to Gianni and
Starting point is 00:01:32 And they gave me all the clothes Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna wear that shirt. Isn't that nice sometime? I know that I know but dude You know what I did today yesterday is like, I don't know if you follow Eddie Bravo. Oh, yeah Yeah, okay, so Eddie follow him. I have to listen to him in person sometimes and it's it's wild Okay, he put up this post of this dude. Okay, so the guy is also on his Instagram So the guy a guy walks across the street. He pulls out a gun to rob a dude and then the dude cold cocks him Beats him down and then now this dude that had the gun is passed out on the ground like this
Starting point is 00:02:08 Okay, the dude kicks him in the head like nine times. Yeah, I said I think that's excessive I know but the dude the guy that now the the victim has the gun You know, he he picked the gun up and he kicked this dude in the head nine times I just said I think that's excessive you already won Okay, but and then I'm talking about all the comments of these monsters that follow him I just shoot the man. Yeah, they're saying like that's street justice. Yeah, you know, you know, all that's but it's still excessive It's excessive street. Just I mean, here's the thing about street justice is it's lawless, you know, it's not but there's no referee Check it out. Once it was videotaped. It now has a referee
Starting point is 00:02:53 Because right humanity. Yeah, yeah people people are now like cuz that guy could go to jail Yeah, like that's the sad part about how the system works. Wow That this the guy on the ground can actually sue that guy. He could sue him. Really. Yes I know I tried to rob him, but then he he punched me and I'm passed out and he kicked me nine times in the head and now my neck is This dude's gonna be in court like this You know, I can't even move my head now your honor You know, and then he's gonna he's gonna he could sue that dude
Starting point is 00:03:24 He can't even move his arms to put his head on the body I don't think you'll be like I promise to tell the truth the whole truth. I just I don't know It's just the responses are crazy. Like I'm like, I'm crazy. Everybody's getting on me like I'm like, you know Like, you know, have you ever had your life in danger? Like what do you all I said was the shit is excessive. That's all I don't know. Yeah. No, I didn't look man. I think well, I'm trying to think say if I walk up on a guy and And I have a gun and He beats my ass, right
Starting point is 00:03:59 The next day, I mean, I can't say it Really, I can't say anything like yeah in court I could say something with some bullshit attorneys and a bunch of kind of muppet shit But in reality if that guy wouldn't say anything take cuts off both off I wake up with no arms and legs I can't be like, well, dang, you know, check it out. I get you But if the cops come to you because they go, hey, we have this on video, right, right at that point You're like, okay. Well, yeah, I got to say something now. Let me get something out of this Right, if you if you if that's your vibe if you're like, let me get something out of this then yes
Starting point is 00:04:33 I agree and I'm not saying it's your vibe But yeah, then you do that you go and get your deal, you know get your Christmas, you know Christmas Let me let me make the there it is right there. Look at it. Look at this. Perfect And let me make this point to by the way black gentlemen. No, no, I think that Here we go Getting all the facts. Oh Wow, I like the voice of racism coming from the side Look at this. Look at this pow he cold knocks him out one kicked it here two
Starting point is 00:05:01 Three was angry four. Yep, five. Yeah. Oh that guy's almost like now. He's gonna call the cops six you get it Dude's out dudes gone seven gang, bro Okay, now he's gonna get the gun and one time. Oh, this is like a poor a verse to be He's got the gun now. He's cursing at him. Now. I think he's just filming for Instagram actually he should be nine There's eight. Okay. Yep nine. That's too much Theo Theo Theo that this is what I'm saying man. Now you get his hat. He gets the dude's hat. I think you do eight listen Wait, wait, wait. This is my point. Okay. This is my point if he would have kicked the dude in the side three times
Starting point is 00:05:47 I'm with it, but that dude won't come and how do we know that dude was gonna shoot him inside? He's trying to get the gun, but he's trying to kick the Satan will put something in a man. Okay He's trying to kick that out of that man. Whatever that is in the man's head. This is the Lord's work That's the Lord's work. Look man. The Lord is wild People think the Lord's got a lives in a library baby. The Lord is wild. This is when your 800 number pops up And people are called to donate money No, but I'm here for the Lord call 888 the oven 888 the oven The Lord works in mysterious ways here on Theo Vaughn's podcast
Starting point is 00:06:25 No, listen if the doer would have broke the guy's hand if he would have stomped his hand I'm with it. You ain't ever gonna use his hand to steal again. Okay. Well, let's go back Give me watch one more time and see exactly what kind of occurs and the gentleman look a little darker from the video They waste could be grainy footage Why do we have to confirm the dude's blacker? Why does that have to be the people people fighting on the internet is usually black people? No, that's not true. There's a lot of white trash out there fighting. That's true. It's about 70 30. Yeah, who's fighting in the back? Who's fighting in backyard black people fighting in back yards back yard is white people
Starting point is 00:07:02 Yeah, if you want to find the black people fighting footage, you have to look at like those those officer The officer camera footage look at this he knocks him out. Okay, this dude That's the stuff. Okay. I'm with that. I'm done after that one. Okay gonna have to forbure you a little I'm done the stomp kick I'm out. Well, he's he don't know how to kick man a guy's a book bag on Okay, okay. Well, he he did do knocked him out dude. Does he know he's up? Maybe the guy's still talking shit. No, he's not the good to do this dude's out man This dude's out. Don't you ever wonder what he's saying? Don't you have? Oh, yeah, that's the one, right? Oh, that's the one with us with us in here in this, you know, I mean the guy can't now he's out now
Starting point is 00:07:47 He's out the dude was out, but the guy might have still been jabbering like how I'm gonna shoot you next time You know, you don't know my the problem with all these videos. You don't get audio with them, but I say this What would the audio be Theo? Can you be the guy on the ground? Yeah, you kick that man. I think what he's trying to do is okay. Go back. Go back. Can you go back? Look not an Instagram There's no rewind. Oh, I'm just saying that dude can fight that dude right there But the guy thought he couldn't the guy. No, no, no, I get you. I know I did this and the guy's in the wrong The guys are criminal. He brought a gun to a to a fist fight. You know I'm saying I'm saying that dude there punched him That dude is a fighter. Yeah, I mean that was a solid
Starting point is 00:08:26 Pow-pow and he and that that knockout punch was real. Okay, so he like good for him You know what I mean? And what I'm saying is if you have that kind of skill you trained, you know That wasn't a lucky punch dude had stance. He was like ready to go ready to defend himself ready to defend himself I can't watch it again. Okay. We're not watching it again. There's 600 replies to Eric's comment. Yeah, I'll give you read some of them After the second these people are monsters. Well, you commented. Let's see you came in after this Well, I wrote after the second kick to the head. This dude is in the wrong now excessive. Don't you think wow? I won't say this is excessive. I'm not saying the dude deserves in the dude is in the wrong, bro He tried to take this man's life. No, no, okay
Starting point is 00:09:07 And so what the other man did was he tried to take half of the man's life out of him No, but I think he could have taken his life. Listen if the dude wanted to take his life He would have shot him and then took his money off his dead body, but he came at him with you with them No, I get it. Okay. I'm with you 100% all I'm saying is excessive. I'm just saying it's excessive I'm saying like there's now video. You said dude is in the wrong Yeah, he's in the wrong after the second kick man after the second kick Yes, the second you already got him down get out of there called a cops. He's down. He's never getting up You have the gun in your hand. Okay. How about this? I'll push
Starting point is 00:09:43 I'll step back from the second kick. He was wrong after the third kick the fourth kick on that's too much Eight is when I started to Because I wait till my heart folds for my heart folds. That's when I know I'm dumb and I know when the guy's working overtime But guess you but look at this this man was walking to school who brought the anger who brought the violence into the vision here Was this all I agree so the whatever's in that man that did that man brought it Oh, I know he brought he he messed with the wrong dude. Obviously, so that dude had to give him a bullet's worth How many how many kicks is in a bullet? That's what you got to figure out how many God the Lord just left the studio. Okay, the Lord's gone now look the Lord
Starting point is 00:10:27 Because that guy is never gonna do that again probably. Oh, yeah Who knows yeah, but that's what some of the comments some of the comments people like he made it So he'll never do that again or what if he comes back and kills him and all this stuff I all I'm saying is people are trying to justify right what the guy did all I'm saying is That justification just means it was excessive. That's all it's excessive. It was a lot. Yeah, I don't think I would do that I don't think I would kick to do it kicks isn't a bullet. Let's figure it out It depends on who's kicking. Okay, all right if Eddie Bravo was kicking I guarantee you this if that was Eddie Bravo, okay? It would be excessive. Yeah, I mean
Starting point is 00:11:06 Okay, I agree with that this dude was kicking with a backpack on he also looked Indian to me. Anybody else get that vibe Okay, he wasn't black. He didn't look black. So he's definitely lighter than black Right, but he's in you know, he's headed in the kind of a black direction. So he seemed Indian to me. All right So I'll say this visually. I'm saying he visually now Indian leg has very little meat on it. You've all seen an Indian leg, bro Oh, if you get hit by an Indian, dude, I could buy those Russell Peters Russell Peters got a chubby leg. Well, nobody thinking Russell got muscle He's named rhymes with muscle and I've never once heard it
Starting point is 00:11:46 The views are expressed by Theo or not to be It should be his name should be Rissell because you know what that rhymes with baby Gristle brother. Look at him. Oh Yeah, he ain't doing this is not a good video. He looks fat here. Why would you show this video? Cuz he looks like he is you found that did you did you put fat guy boxing? Is that what you put in? Yeah, fat Russell Peters boxes That's unfair to him right there unfair to what that's him But you know, but no, I love this airman
Starting point is 00:12:20 It's a great thing because you're gonna start to think with all the stuff They keep coming down on police and like, you know and police are under-trained. They're not paid well Like if I agree you're not getting the best people doing you know or not You're getting people that want to do the job, but you're not probably getting like people that have maybe You know some of the most experienced or the best training or anything like that So is that as at a certain point the police who's even gonna go do that job anymore? You know what you're saying right now to me is the root of the problem right now And I'm so glad you said that how you're talking about it. The problem is not necessarily the cops
Starting point is 00:12:55 It's a problem started with you. Who are you choosing to be cops? Yeah, you know, you're not paying them enough It's a dangerous job. Their whole motto is get home. Yeah You ever meet a cop like that. Yeah, this is like a real motto They're like just we need to get home make sure you get home and I always say thank God firemen don't feel like that Right, you know cuz they get to a burning building with some kids and hell, but they're like we gotta get home That looks dangerous So sorry, I hope it works out what I'm saying is I feel like the cops should be trained like Navy SEALs It should be five years before you're able to be a cop
Starting point is 00:13:35 You know what I mean? And you you know you're trained, you know and look talk to any in-shape cop You know what they can't stand fat cops. Oh, yeah, you know and those are the ones that yeah They call them Phops they call them those ones that cause the most trouble. Oh, dude a fat cop Do look here's the thing about a fat cop. Do you say something to them they pop off? Yeah, but I would too if If a cop is my size, I totally get why they need a gun. Yeah, you know, you think I'm fighting you come at me I'm like Back up, you know what I mean? I'm not fighting a so I get it
Starting point is 00:14:08 So I just think like so they're not and people aren't leaving like Harvard going like, you know, you know what I want to do. Yeah, I Want to be in law enforcement, you know, they're on the front. I want to be on there in the front No, they're not doing that So these are people like they should be cops aren't paid enough They aren't trained enough and they're not enough of them. Yep And if they fix that problem then the problems that filter down through there These are people out there worried about their life and their safety But what I'm saying is the job is dangerous. You knew the job was dangerous when you took it
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, so no, I'm saying yes, you might get shot. You might get beat up. That's the job Right, right. Yeah, the job ain't selling shoes. But also you got to you got to put handcuffs on somebody Like like like if doing podcasting you might get shot then I'll be like, okay, I get it. This shit is dangerous See you got to have a gun right here Yeah, somebody come in and you pop off because people are like man the podcasting is dangerous. No, so now look I will say though if I pull out my gun and you take it from me and kick me eight times, bro I'm okay with that. Okay This dude, right? I would not kick. Do you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:15 I'm just messing with you. No, but I love this conversation. Let's get back into it All I'm saying is I'm not gonna kick a dude eight times in the head. I'm gonna kick him in the side I'm gonna break some ribs. Oh, you're flirting You know, I'm putting the tip in UFC that's flirt Boys out there trying to take dude look even in the when these UFC they take they take the guy till he's out I get it But there also there's a guy there to step in and go like you're about to kill him
Starting point is 00:15:44 There was nobody there to tell that guy. I think that ninth kick to the head It might have it might have done some real damage. And yes, I get it people would say he deserves it I'm just saying like damn. Are you just that kind of monster? Yeah, you know, so I'm not that monster, right? You know, okay. Look, so let's say if that man had come at you. How do you for how do you what do you do? He would have got my wallet You know, I mean I would have been like here you go. Don't you know get out of here because it's not worth it Yeah, to me is not worth it. You know, I think I think if that guy was really gonna kill somebody he would have done Like that's what I'm saying. It would he obviously
Starting point is 00:16:19 That he just messed with the wrong dude clearly that dude would that dude was serious like I'm not a fighter You know, I'm a big dude, but I'm not a fighter You know, so yeah, if he was a cop, you'd pull out that piece then. Oh, yeah Saw him off right there. Yeah, but that's it. I feel you Yeah, I just but I wouldn't want to be a cop because I know how dangerous that job is I wouldn't want to you know Do you feel like people think you're a cop a lot of times like a plainclothes officer? No, nobody would think that really? No, you think I'm a plainclothes officer if I could see you and you're like, yeah, I'm also a cop
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm like, oh, yeah, I could see that I'm like a I'm a retired cop. I would I would believe that you know, I can see you on desk duty a lot Yeah, I'm gonna do that, you know, what can I help you? Fill out this paperwork, you know, I'm that guy. I'm that guy in the movie or I'd be like die hard I'd be the dude buying twinkies at the uh, you know, and then the thing breaks out and I'm like, you know, we need backup I'm doing this all the time. We need backup Do you think um Because I you know, obviously, especially in the past couple years cops have been under attack, you know, they're always like the
Starting point is 00:17:21 You know, not only are they under attack when they're on their jobs, you know, they're in dangerous environment like you're saying but they get You know under attacking the media too. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I'm not I'm not I'm not anti cop at all But I do feel like there's two sides of this and we need to talk about both things And one of them is like this is what they signed up for right they didn't it wasn't it wasn't government assigned Right, okay, they weren't like, you know, they didn't you didn't get a thing in the mail Said oh god, I gotta be a cop and then oh man. So yeah, I'm scared of certain types of people Yeah, it wasn't like published or clearing out like the old dude shows up with a big thing. It says you a cop now
Starting point is 00:17:59 That'd be so great, right? They walk in with a thing. Guess what Theo? You have to be a cop. You'd be like, what? I don't want to be a cop. No, no these people actually, you know I had a friend of mine. I you Hey, do you have any friends of yours that became cops? Yep. I got a friend of mine It is uh, that is a cop. I've had two friends that become cops that I remember from high school I wouldn't even see the nest of your friends, but I remember one guy in particular I remember him saying like, you know one day I'm gonna be a cop Yeah, and and and and all these people they don't know, you know, you know, he had like a it was like a revenge job
Starting point is 00:18:30 Oh wait, I think it is for a lot of people because well first of all in You know people that interact with the cops the most is poor environment You know, I remember the cop Dude when I was like growing up the cops were always around like that You know, somebody's always calling them, you know, like people don't know how to communicate as well There's not much skill to be able to communicate. There's no nobody has their own yard Everybody's all kind of mass together. So the you know, the more problems arise So the cops that people need the cops the cops always need to be around
Starting point is 00:18:57 So then there's a lot of people that get have grudges with the cops, you know, so then uh With authority with authority. Yes in the same way that you are with your parents or your teachers or anybody I mean, this is just that's just that's that's that's the dynamic Right. A lot of people look at cops as like, oh, yeah, their authority right and then some cops also they get You know, a lot of cops were people that were troubled or were always harassed by cops. They end up becoming cops So now they're like, oh, I'm either going to do the harassing. We're speaking. We're speaking about motivation right now Yeah, why does someone want to do something and I think that that's part of The training process, you know, it's like when you go to jury duty, right?
Starting point is 00:19:38 And then somebody and they ask questions to you like, uh, you know Have you ever whatever and then you was somebody that's like, yeah, I don't like police Or if you said I think all black people should go to jail if you said something like that It'd be like, oh, thank you. Mr. Vaughn. Well, you are excused. Yeah, and then they'll let you back out of the world Yeah, it should be when you get to the door. They're like, uh, can we You gotta go through this six month program Right I'm saying they don't they don't I don't know if they do that for the cops or not
Starting point is 00:20:06 If they asked them these kind of questions, I think when somebody comes in to be a cop There should be a questionnaire to let you know after you answer these 25 questions They'll be like, yeah, I don't think this person should be a cop Right. I don't think they're doing that because they need cops. Well, the racial problem too. I think with cops cops So many times cops run into like black neighborhoods or poor neighborhoods Which in America a lot of them are black neighborhoods like, you know, especially in cities And there's a ton. There's a lot of crime. There's a crime So they get used to showing up and somebody pulls out a gun and shoots their friend or the
Starting point is 00:20:37 So I think there's more of a nervous energy when they pull into like a black environment I don't think that that's well, here's the thing Then maybe they shouldn't be pulling into the black environment the way they're pulling into the back environment But what are they supposed to slowly leave letters and stuff and say they're coming like listen when you when we're talking about They've been called to come in the the the army the navy the marines when they they have something called rules of engagement Yeah, and rules of engagement and war They'll tell them hey Don't go into that village and shoot anybody because you're gonna start an international incident, right?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Where the hell are the rules of engagement? With the police, right like with all this stuff in the news, right about this And then it still was happening. I was like damn is somebody up top mad about this Yeah, like you would think there'd be some kind of man that they came down like listen I don't care what's happening. You make sure that this is a justified whatever you did, right? Making sure there's no wiggle room or iffy-ness to it and it was still happening. So I don't know I just feel like this is how the cops are structured. How think how how it works That's where I think the problem is. I mean we need the cops
Starting point is 00:21:47 You know the first person that's going to call the cops is the same dude that don't like the cops, right? He gonna come home and be like damn it. What's wrong? Somebody robbed us. Yeah, call those peas. They're still gonna call the cops So we have to have a better relationship, you know, and I just yeah, I think that that's a good point Yeah, some better relationship. It's like is it better training? Yeah, what are the rules of engagement if you show up to a place? and you're a cop and you're you know like And you're engaging with somebody, you know and they're they don't Like at a certain point you have to at some point if it's a criminal if somebody's committing a criminal act
Starting point is 00:22:20 You have to put I guess physical force on where you just leave at a certain point No, no, what I'm saying is this and this is I'm this might be unpopular But you know, it's like I think that the criminals need to be the ones to shoot first Yeah, okay, and I and listen I get it, but that's the job It's dangerous. Yeah, you are dealing with listen. I remember working at a school and like With these these gang member dudes came and was messing with some one of the kids So like I had to get in the back of the cop car with the kid to go identify them because they caught him You know and I'm in the car listening to the radio and I was like that's the first time I had
Starting point is 00:22:56 Like my respect level for cops went up a thousand because it was like on the radio like, you know suspect has a machete You know, you know, it's like it was like all these things were it was like all this stuff was I never I remember that machete I remember that machete. It was like suspect has a machete and he's like, you know, you know, it cooped up into whatever And then it was like 10 15 of those and I was like damn It's just these two in this whole area probably yeah, and imagine they get like any way they get out of their car That's why they probably get out and look around because they're like, I don't even remember what they just said on the radio Dude, if somebody comes running to me with a knife, I'm thinking I'll get out a cake or a steak, you know I'm saying that's my first thought
Starting point is 00:23:30 Oh, you've got a steak now Let me get this brisket out But it's crazy loving man. That's what that is a cake or a steak. I love it See somebody got a big-ass knife and you like hold on a second. You look you like an old grandma. Hold on, baby You got a steak. Let me go get this cake for you right now. Oh, no Let me get this cake. Let me get that handling grave for you Nah, man, but I just isn't it interesting though. It's it's it's kind of fascinating. It's like there's a lot of levels to it It's like, you know cops show up into places that are violent, right?
Starting point is 00:24:02 Or are places where there has been called that there's something violent happening. Yeah, you know, so they're on alert, right? There's probably a lot of people that once they get there that are like, oh, fuck the cops that aren't like Don't want to pay attention. Don't want to listen. Don't want to like engage with the cops at all Which probably sets them in more of a fear fearful mindset not to mention that they don't have probably a ton of training Dude, I remember I went to a place in uh, to coa, georgia one time where they train officers And it was like this simulation room. They're like, okay, you go in there, right? They have a screen that comes on and it plays like 50 different options of when you get called into a scenario So you get called in like it was all types scenarios one of them is a classroom you get called in
Starting point is 00:24:42 There's six people in class somebody smoking a joint in the back of the classroom Right, it's like a college and it looks like that on the screen you go in and you can talk to the screen And the people would engage back. Wow, right? So it was really and then also in the corners of the room They have weapons that are loaded with these paintballs, but that are plastic, right? And so if if some of the scenarios you get fucking shot at right? Yeah, but here's my thing right and here's I know why they do that kind of stuff Right, this reminds me of that scene of men in black, you know where it was a little girl with the physics book That's the one he shot right and he had his justification
Starting point is 00:25:19 What i'm saying is you can't just walk in the room because you think the black dude in the back smoking a joint Well, he's the one right maybe he got glaucoma, right? Maybe he got like, you know a terminal cancer And this is what he has to do, but you don't know that by just coming in you can't just judge a book by its cover Right. No, I agree with that. Yeah, i'm not even 10 buddy Ted Bundy's over here looking all cute. Yeah, you know what I mean? You know i'm saying you coming in like y'all what you trying to holler because you see 10 bundy and then he's the one that wants to eat your fucking, you know liver You know what i'm saying? So yeah, he got his little spice ratchets falling out of his bed
Starting point is 00:25:55 But it would go get a steak, you know, it was just interesting even in this thing and not even like I don't even remember like If any of the students I can't remember what if there were different races or anything on the students, right? But it was interesting to think like, okay, one kid is going to cough, right? One kid is going to You know somebody comes in the door in the back like somebody just comes in the door to drop off notes for the teacher Like there was just so many little things you were like one kid reaches for his bag Now they play it three times and then on the video and the kid just pulls a book out But one time he pulls a gun at it's just like man, how much was going on?
Starting point is 00:26:30 So that seems wicked like it trains people to go whoever's reaching for shit needs to die It's dangerous, right? Yeah, that's what it sounds like and that's why they do that. What kind of training is that? But there's also at that at a certain point. What more training can you even have? It's like well? I'm saying it's like that's why I'm saying that that's why you have certain again rules like a magician. What if the dude's just a magician? Yeah, you know, I fucking dove comes up What you doing with that white? I don't know man I just
Starting point is 00:27:01 I just feel like maybe then you shouldn't come in the classroom like that Maybe it should be a thing where you're like everybody hold your hands up, right? You know, but you know I had a cop friend and I'm not gonna say Too much about this person, but he would tell me about like, you know Sometimes that's cops you in the you in the bad neighborhoods You get to know some of the kids and some of them need beatings right like some of them need like, you know Why you in this? Why did you do this again? You know, maybe a quick gut punch to this kid, you know Oh, there was a kid growing up my neighborhood and he was just uh, I'm sure bad stuff that happened to him
Starting point is 00:27:35 You know, but he also he ruined every he ruined so many people's lives on a daily basis, man Right, I'm not saying that cops should have done anything to him But I wouldn't there's a couple kids like that probably, you know, that really needed some discipline They needed some discipline. That's all needed some discipline So they're not getting in at home They're not getting in at school and they're running around with guns and they're running around with drugs and they're running around Just, you know, fucking people up at a certain point, but we're talking about the deterioration of society in Poor neighborhoods, that's basically what we're saying because by the way what you're talking about is if you you can google youtube so many
Starting point is 00:28:07 Incidents incidents of like You know Sort of wealthy people dealing with the cops and it's a whole different experience And they're saying things that they shouldn't say and they're just going off, you know, yeah You know, I agree. Yeah. Yeah, I've been pulled over before. Yeah Um And I guess it was scary. I can imagine though it is scary for a black guy. I can imagine that it is like Um, I can imagine it is scarier
Starting point is 00:28:34 I could imagine that for sure. Well, let me think there's a bad. Sorry to interview. I just want to get this I think there's a it's weird how we always are like play it because you and you talk about this in your ax um, um, we're always paying for this for the For the previous generation of shit. Yes, and it never ends man. And it's like You know like so like, you know, I think why sometimes you have more problems or more stuff in black Everybody you have more poverty, right? And so you're gonna have more do when you when people don't have things. There's more crime. There's more trouble. There's more not trouble, but there's just more You know, uh
Starting point is 00:29:11 There's more I don't even want to say it's negativity, but there's male content. Yeah, there's more male content. Thank you nick That's great. There's more issues that go on, right? There's more people struggling to survive and the byproduct of that sometimes is crime the byproduct of that it sometimes is uh you know like um Communication that's not like super, you know, it's vague, you know So I think you get constant going to enough of these areas and after a while they get programmed Negatively, you know, they get negative programming. They get like, okay
Starting point is 00:29:43 I went to this area four times and and every time somebody shot their friend or something And so now the when they even pull up for a fucking, you know, somebody's cat is in a tree They're like, well somebody's eyes, uh, you know, I mean, yeah, I'm about to kill all this cat's friend So nobody kills this, you know, it's just I think there's like a lot of negative programming But then the the reason that that's even in that neighborhood is because You know these because people didn't have an opportunity two generations or it's just like We're always Behind the I don't know how we catch up. You know, well, I mean I hear what you're saying, but like I don't know if you ever watch cops
Starting point is 00:30:20 You know, oh, yeah, I watch it. Sometimes it hurts my feelings. I know but what I'm trying to say is there's a lot of white people on cops Yeah, okay. There's a lot like there's more white people on welfare in the country. Oh, yeah No, I know and minorities right because just per per capita. There's just more white people in the United States There's a lot of poor white people. Yeah and cops go into those areas too. Yeah, you know It's just for some reason. We're not hearing about the unarmed white kid getting shot And it's probably happening, but we're not hearing about it. Right. We don't hear But yeah, the news doesn't choose to make that a thing because it doesn't And that's a good point. You don't hear that as much and also I think black culture has more of a
Starting point is 00:30:56 Black culture's more they have more they're more excited about guns, but they're basically they're kind of like navies You know, they I wouldn't say that one because when I'm looking at, you know, I'm looking at cops and I see You know, that's a good point. I'm just saying is like I'm just like the perception that you have is that because you've said quite a few times now about The the urban areas and black Areas and that kind of stuff and I'm just saying like I there's a lot of like those those trailer parks and all that Kind of stuff guns too. They got guns too. It's a good point. There's meth There's that, you know, there's a lot of poor white people in the country. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:31:27 Doing a lot of bad stuff, right? But it's for some reason So the perception against cops is that they only are treating black people this way And and black people deserve to be treated this way. That's the perception and we have to like Crash all that down and just look at like because like look I when I was a kid I first started driving and you're black and white. So just for our listeners. Yeah, I'm very mixed. Are you definitely mixed? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm mixed. So it's like, um, can you say the n-word at home or not? Yeah, that's crazy Look at you. He wants he wants to be able to say it so bad but only
Starting point is 00:31:59 Can you only say in certain rooms at your house or can you say it anywhere? It just it is what it is. I don't I don't like even talking about what I am because I think people want to know What you are so they can know how to hate you right so they can know what box to put you in But do you feel that way about me sometimes? I know I joke around about that stuff sometimes I just think it's like a time and place. You know what I mean? We're comics. I know you okay And it's like we have like a you know a push, you know, there's like a there's a level that we want to push the envelope You know, so it's like that's such a word that polarizes people so much that it's like is it even necessary? Yeah, because even I find myself in certain situations. I'm like, ah, this is I'm gonna leave this one out
Starting point is 00:32:35 But I have that I have certain jokes on stage where I feel like oh, this is this is a good time to say this Right because for for effect a certain kind of effect Then there's other times my thought is like maybe we should just get rid of it You know because just because of like the conversation that it brings up. It's like, uh, let's just let's just get rid of it So it's not even worth it. Yeah, just because of all this. You know what I mean? It's like, uh, you know But yeah, it's like if it hurts enough people's feelings are even if yeah Yeah, you just kind of go. Okay. Maybe especially like you're you're saying in a certain way and then if it makes people like question Oh, what is that about then then you're like, oh, was it even worth it? You know, so I mean, I don't know
Starting point is 00:33:11 I mean, it's just I always find like I don't like when Like when I've seen like a upper echelon white comics Find a witty way to put this in their act and I see that and I go Okay, if it makes me think about that moment I'm not in the act anymore because I'm just thinking about like oh you crafted that really nicely just so you could say nigger That's why you did it. You know, you be a secretive. Yeah, and I'm just like I don't think it's I don't I don't Believe that it's necessary all the time. You know what I mean? So I don't know but like I say it's all perception
Starting point is 00:33:42 No, I love it man. I love the fact you're always able to think about uh You know, I always feel like you you do a good job of incorporating a lot of this a lot of like Stuff common thoughts or things that are going on in in the social world and stuff like that Like you do a great job of incorporating your act more than anybody. I know I feel like a lot. Well, I appreciate that But I'm trying to that's just my experience right but you do a constant job like I always know like whenever you get up there There's going to be something that's kind of a hot topic That you're gonna it's gonna it may go well or it may not You know, I just think that all these things that go on the world going on in the world
Starting point is 00:34:16 It just makes us more thoughtful about what we're talking about because I don't want to not talk about these things Right, like I don't want to be censored. So I have to say to myself How can I still talk about these things? And then get my the joke across make people laugh or make people get my point That means I have to be way more thoughtful about how I craft my words How I act things out so people go. Oh, I totally get that if you don't if you know, that's our job Yeah, you know what I mean? So like the me too movement and all the racial divide that stuff has made us be more thoughtful I don't want to I don't want to not talk about women. They're fucking hilarious. They're 51 of the population
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah, so we're supposed to just not talk about all the craziness that goes on Some of these bitches ain't that hilarious. I'll be honest with you, dude. I'm talking about the things that they do Somebody's been hurt. Who hurt you Theo? Some of these bitches just keep saying they're hilarious and people will start believing them, but no what was it? I feel like we have to have a quota. I mean, I'm just I get so tired of like that that that tweets to the comedy store lineup Where the women on the lineup? Yeah, where does that end? Because then people can be like where the Indians. Yeah, where the Mexicans at whether it can go on and on and on You got to be funny. Yeah, but everybody needs an opportunity. Well then bust your ass and get that opportunity
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah, you telling me that Richard prom and this is he was 20 Eddie Murphy, so this is some of the funniest men that ever have ever existed And they're both and they're black man. You you want to talk about uh, george lopez is a hilarious entertaining man. Yeah, you know um I'm trying to think even if you go You know like, uh, I mean the list could go on. It's just about who's fun You know paula poundstone. Joan river is one of the funniest humans. I feel like that's ever existed. That's a jewish woman Eddie Murphy just signed a 70 million dollar netflix deal. Yeah a couple years ago. Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:03 For a new special damn That means I hit up adam about that. I was like, so I should expect to get bumped by eddie murphy at the comedy store pretty soon I hope so. It's gonna be great. My dream is to bring him on stage, right? Don't you want to do that? I know like everybody You know, we get so excited delirious bearly hills cop trade in place. It just goes through his hole But then it's getting bad. I know Oh, then there was Norbit
Starting point is 00:36:28 Uh, norbit. Oh god guys. He has it hasn't been good lately. Uh, no man But I want to go back to something you said a minute ago man, because it really had me thinking So yeah in my mind a lot of times I get and I don't know if it's that the media gets me like that or what it is I think like you don't think that how many poor white neighborhoods have just as many guns as poor black neighborhoods You know, I never I never really like if you'd have asked me like, oh, do these do people have guns? Yeah, but for some reason and my perception it could just be the my own personal history You know some dangerous white folks when you was coming up. Yeah, dude. I was thinking about this yesterday, man. I uh Because I went and did this no jumper podcast that they have and that guy
Starting point is 00:37:09 You know, he and so we talked about a lot of stuff on there and I was thinking like Yeah, I was just as I was scared when I was growing up. I was scared of like I was scared of Like angry black kids and I was scared of Kind of real redneck white kids Those were the two groups that really that I was constantly a fear of and it was it was really equal both ways Because I just didn't know Some of them seemed so in with their own vibes that it's like they It was just a risky place for me and it all could have just been my own fear. Maybe there was nothing to be scared of
Starting point is 00:37:42 Right, right, right. Um, but like you say your perception is You know, I listen. I remember being in montana I first I've told this story before but I've been I was in montana. I was doing, uh, you know, the Tribble no, not that tribal runs back in the day and I'm in miles montana, which is like way north You know, and it's just like it's that kind of no mo. They call it. Yeah, it's that kind of town The Walmart's the biggest thing in the town Yeah, so I'm doing my act. You know what I mean? It's me and this other white comic, you know, the only so white paint They had to check my passport when I came in the town like in this America. What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:38:20 You know, but I remember yeah, how much bacon you got on your buddy I remember after the show this white guy walks out to me. He's a little drunk You know, I mean, you had that look and he said, hey man, you want to fight, you know, and I was like No, you know what I mean? He might have been homosexual I was There's a lot of gay men. They don't know how to get into it. They figure we'll punch each other enough to be tired enough to lay down Really, I'm gonna fight somebody to be like you want to cut off Bro, that's aggressive. I don't know what kind of fights you been in. See that dude that kicked the dude in the head
Starting point is 00:38:48 That's what he should have done. He should have laid down next to the dude, you know, and snuggled on his neck and spooned him Don't you be robbing people? Yeah, dumbass. What you doing out here with your bullet bullets? It's your punk ass bullets put the gun in his mouth. How'd I feel? But anyway, well, this got weird. Um So the guy says to me he's like you want to fight go? No, man I'm trying to diffuse it because now I'm starting to look around and I'm realizing I'm by myself It's me and this white comic and we're in a white town in Montana Like literally anything can happen to me right now. So I'm not trying to be that dude. It's like get off me food You know, I'm like everybody's gonna try to be yeah, the whole bar stops and looks you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:29 I'm like Harvey chocolate So, uh, so then the guy says to me go he go I try to diffuse I say, where you from man? You know, hey, you know, he's like right, right? I've had to do that before I hate that Don't you hate that when you have to pander for your own safety? That's what I was doing I say to do where you from man, you know, why are you here? You know, he goes on most of my life Man, it's so funny. You said go on but this is what he said I'm gonna tell you what he said because you want to hear that he goes he goes I'm from New York, you know, I said New York. What are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:39:55 This is zig zigzag words to get away from the niggers. Damn with an er s on it. Yeah, okay strong Could have been a z with the set of the s, but no he had the s on It was strong. And so I looked at him. I said wow and so he's saying that just to get a rise out of you He's seeing how you're gonna react. Yeah, so I went like this. I said, well good job Looks like you did it You know and then I was like, okay, good job, man And then I just I walked away, you know, because I was like, oh, wow, this is like this is this is real Yeah, this is real and I have in my my sheltered life, you know middle-class upbringing
Starting point is 00:40:33 You're going to catholic school. I haven't experienced too much of this stuff, man I actually have had great experiences with the cops. Yeah, you know when I was a teenager I started driving I literally got pulled over and got out of my car Right. I got out of my car and started walking towards the cop car like hey guys because I thought I was what is everything okay? You know, but I could tell that these two cops thank thankfully we're trained And they looked at me like oh this he just stupid Yeah, you know and they they took me off the side like yeah, and they didn't even give me a ticket or anything
Starting point is 00:41:03 You know, but they were like, all right, they can assess like they were like this guy's not a danger Right, okay, but anyway, so I go tell the the the headliner because I was featuring at the time for triple I was just starting literally my first time going on the road and The I tell the headline just white guy, you know, I say man Let me tell you what just guy just said because I'm laughing in my head and he goes what where is he? Let's go talk to this guy. And I'm like, hey, hey We want to do it. Why are you mad? I mean, what are you mad about? I'm not mad. Let's get the fuck out of here. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Let's let's leave bro. What do you what are you gonna do? You gonna go over there because I don't got your back I don't got your back right now. He's gonna turn around and be like me and my boy Eric Cut to me running down the street towards the travel lodge. You know what I mean? Like what the fuck are you what are you doing, dude? Shit is a nightmare. But anyways, I don't know. It's just that's just The perception that we have is just we have if we could just talk about it, you know, because here's the issue too It's like I can tell it as a white guy that you take
Starting point is 00:42:09 Some offense to always hearing about like that. Oh, it's the white cops going after the black kids or you know It's like white people are always racist white people are always wrong And it's like it's that's a it's a weird place to be in because I think that we that's what happened with like with me too Right, it turns into like we're all men are wrong. You know what I mean? Like I'm lumped in with like so once Amanda but see that's their they they have lived through things Right, so they've lived through things and they've had these experiences So maybe their guard is up and maybe they have to look at men and hey, you don't understand how it is for me So that's just that's how we all need to start talking about. How do you feel about this?
Starting point is 00:42:46 Yo, how do I feel about it? How do the cops feel about it? You know what I mean? And it's like and then and then the criminals we gotta, you know They're still human beings. Yeah, you know, but I don't need to get kicked in the head nine times true That's all I'm saying, bro They roll with a gun stop at eight at um, no, I think look man, it's it's definitely like Yeah, I love it when people You know, we got to be able to think and feel around each other, you know and a lot of times and we don't have to agree Yeah, and people don't want it and and and people don't
Starting point is 00:43:17 I feel like that's one thing about podcasting is it's like it's a place where we can try our best You know to at least, you know, discuss stuff or think about things. Yeah, that's all we don't got to I agree with you 100 man, I still don't have any answers. We don't got the answers We're just talking about it right now and even if you disagree with me even if you're like Even if you think like yeah, man, you need to get more informed or whatever it is like that. I'm trying to that's why we're talking about this Yeah, and our perceptions of things will be different. But yeah, I mean I did I mean I have felt like yeah Like poor white people get under attack, you know and like and that there's no voice for them I mean, especially in Hollywood. I would always feel like, you know, yeah, that's a good point in the white house
Starting point is 00:43:56 I don't know man. That guy's rich white person. Yeah, but the poor white people gravitated like yes He's gonna get a job to him. Nobody's talking to him. I know one of you and another candidate was all like, you know You're deplorable for liking this guy. You can't you go wait. Wait, you're gonna criticize me and then ask for my vote Bitch, please You know what I mean? Yeah, get out of here and it's tough. It is interesting. It's like we kind of at some point we just have to think like you know that
Starting point is 00:44:24 Poor people don't care what color they are man. I never looked I like I always related to if somebody was struggling, you know, if somebody was having a tough time I felt like I've always was in tune if somebody Was struggling. I didn't care what color they were I never looked at like You know, like my black friends or mixed friends when I was growing up and be like, oh man, like You know, their feelings don't matter or if somebody was sharing any of their feelings like I was always More in tune to that than I really was anything else, you know
Starting point is 00:44:52 You always have you have that great joke about that too though about the black friends come talking about You took all our stuff and you like where is it? I'm on. Yeah, we live on the same street You know what I mean? I just told then here's the crazy part now I added an ending to that joke where it's like somebody else has both of our shit Right They got your shit and they got my shit and they're watching us fight over it I I used to have this thing about like how like I still have because I'm you have a great joke about the foreign in the elevator Which is one of my favorite ones, man, but I had this thing about so good bro about like talking about um, um
Starting point is 00:45:24 You know like I still have friends who are like a little older than me that they come from an era where Every white person was the man, right? You know what I mean? Oh, yeah, you know, that's that era, you know, if you're like 40 and up Yeah, you that's the kind of racism where you like, oh you oh you you you have to do in that podcast with the man, huh? Like if I would tell those kids I'd be like, I'm coming. I'm gonna do Theo Vance. Oh you oh you talking You're gonna sit with the man, huh? That kind of shit. You know what I mean? You sit with the man You sit with the man and my thing is always like listen if you on the bus, yeah with a white guy He's not the man You know what I'm saying like
Starting point is 00:46:05 If next to your if that work, there's a white dude next to your cubicle. Yeah, that's not the man The man has changed I think that this era of some this era of white people They're upset that they lost their chance to be the man Oh, yeah, no, I can see some of that. There's like there's like some jealousy of like the You know of the of that the era before we're like, damn. I never got to be racist like that I gotta love these But that that thing you're saying about the elevator is that exactly it's like
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah, you have a joke and I'm gonna paraphrase it. I know you're right here But it's like you it's like you walk in an elevator somebody farted in there before you Like a generation before you and people still blaming like you farted. Yeah, that's why I say I say yeah I say like that's how white people now current young white people feel about racism is like being in the elevator where somebody already farted Yeah, you know what I mean? And then and then the elevator opens up and there's some black people coming in and you're like, I didn't do that That far to be here That far been here for generations You know, so it's like I get that that sentiment, but you know if you look at sports sports is an example of like
Starting point is 00:47:18 How long it takes for society to change? Just look at basketball. It was all white right Okay, how long ago was that probably 50 years, you know what I mean exactly 50 years and then they let black people play All right, and then they let black people coach And now they black people be general managers and now cut to 50 60 70 years later We have one black owner right it takes time it takes right It's gonna take a hundred years to
Starting point is 00:47:47 You know to change society maybe we probably won't be alive to see where people don't care about race at all You know what I mean because aliens will be here and then we'll have a different fight Well, dude some a black buddy of mine told me that he heard that uh aliens don't like black people I was like, dude, you don't you were like well I mean Not all black people, but I mean it's just the ones Wait just the ones that are unlikable. No, I there was this great hbo show It was like a twilight zone type thing
Starting point is 00:48:18 I think it was hbo But it was like the aliens came and the aliens put out a message saying like give us all your black people And if you do we will I've never heard anything like that. We will it's just a show. Okay, it was He has a heart and it was uh, it was like we'll clean the air You know, well, well, well, you know, are they trying to trade? Do you get right and so then it was like what would society do and it's like of course in the end of the show It's black people getting on ships Black people getting on ships and they're like, you know, they need to take it away, you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:48:54 Damn, yeah, this is like what would you do in that situation? But I think it no matter what they said give us your fat girls, you know, I mean, you know You know, I'm saying like whoever it is, but like when people make things like that they always like frame it as like race You know, it's like I'm I'm I'm tired of it, but it is what it is Yeah, I think it's uh, I do think a lot of it is just time and the media they know it's people Most people know it's gonna take time But the news and their shit is they want us to go to war if you're at war if people are fighting brah something to talk about Yeah, dude, like I think today in the race war, you know
Starting point is 00:49:26 And it feels to me in reality even when I'm at the comedy store now Then then eight years ago when I got there, it's more. There's more diversity. There's more people run. It's there I think so Yeah, well, I don't know I think so I think next time you look at the lineup you might if you start to count You might be like but a lot of those guys do want are they calling and putting avails? Is chris tucker calling and putting his avails in every week, you know, like our but see why does it have to be Why does it here's my point about and this is the pushback the other side is that you know
Starting point is 00:49:54 Why does like is martin lores calling and putting his avails in yeah, he does. Well, he does actually But I'm saying like if you look at like netflix specials for instance, okay? Why does the guys that get netflix specials have to be either the ethnic people got to be international superstars? Oh, yeah, okay, or they got to be the most famous black people in america But then like joe schmo white guy. He's going To give me the opportunity to be mediocre. Yeah, okay. That's all i'm saying dude. Oh look I'll be mediocre on netflix like a lot of like like half the white motherfuckers that got specials on netflix I want to be just as mediocre as them. I know give me that opportunity
Starting point is 00:50:35 You know what I mean, but I have to be like at the top of my game I got to be like, you know what I mean Why and you a better looking and it's even some of the ladies you better looking female than half the ladies It gave them two out there, bro. I know you were male, but i'm just saying But look, I ain't gonna look at me like that. I never uh, you don't want with the bitch here You would have got a perm comb at home If you if you could do like this I don't want to hear you if you could give it a little
Starting point is 00:51:04 Oh, shit. My hair is luscious today. It's crazy out Oh, it's already April Yeah, if you hit it with that, you know, yeah If you look like a you a white chick in a black video, you know what I mean like a rappers video If your hair is just Please put that in slow mo when you see his hair just It's like Uh, I don't know but it's also interesting man. I think shit everything
Starting point is 00:51:40 You know like race makes things also exciting, bro Like it's fun. It makes things exciting dude. There's if everybody was the same it all be boring, bro It's nice to have, you know, you got a little bit of you know that people are different It's all gonna end up probably in a hodge podge porridge down the road We're all gonna start looking like me or it's gonna be a war Yeah, there'll be some crazy wars at start But I think the wars next time wouldn't be based on like people won't team up based on like Their ethnicities and stuff like that next time they'll team up more based on
Starting point is 00:52:09 Not even their religious beliefs, but just what they believe in the maybe in their hearts and stuff as humans Well, religion's still there. That's that's still religion's still a huge part of it. You know I think economics are gonna be the reason why we go to war water, you know, it's gonna be things like that It's gonna be resources are gonna be probably the next fight. Yeah, you know, then what do you do? Like, you know, it's like the half we're already in the haves and have nots situation right now I agree. It's more that than anything else. Yeah Yeah, it's interesting, man, but also it's like, yeah, this is our life. This is it, you know, and it's yeah, it's like This is it. This is the time we got put into an existence. Like this is what's going on
Starting point is 00:52:47 I know we're gonna look back and be like, damn, why was I so worried about that instead of living? I know we just gotta live going vacations like meet people. You know what I mean? Yeah, I just think there's like if you hate somebody if you took the opportunity of this person You think you hate for whatever reason it is if you took the time to be like, hey, what's up? Like like tell me about you, right? What's going on in your world? Yeah, you'd be surprised. You know, I don't know if you know who Larry Elder is Yeah, he's gonna come on here. Oh, that's great. You know what Larry Elder? I was looking at this It's not a documentary, but he was like this interview thing that he did and he's like this conservative black Political talk show host type guy, you know, but he's got a hard stance against black people
Starting point is 00:53:25 He wants black people to you know, stop making excuses stop with your victim mentality and all that stuff, right? And you know, I used to be like, whoa, dude a little harsh. What's going on? But then I heard his story, right? You know his his father the story about his father how hard it was for his dad and what his dad did and And how they didn't talk for 10 years and and how he pushed him to be better and all this stuff And I understood that his experience Framed how he feels about the world, right? And I think that if we took the time to find out people's experience first and then find out
Starting point is 00:53:56 Why they feel the way they feel then we can make a judgment on what we feel about them But we just jump quickly to like racism or calling somebody like that an uncle Tom Or you know, we jump to those conclusions too fast And I just think that we need to take some time to really communicate and you would think that in the social media world That we now have access to to to be able to talk to people more more frequently and right directly You would think that we'd be able to uh Try to do that, but instead that thing is being used as like a way of like spewing hatred and and and Single-mindedness and closed-mindedness, and it's just like it's a shame to me
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah Yeah, and it's crazy how people can be that way online and not that and they're the but the truth is some of them aren't even That way in person Oh, they for sure aren't that way in part a lot of cowards out there Yeah, you're a coward most of you and a lot of the like one thing that podcasting doesn't do Which I think is something that separate separates it as a news source Even then the regular news media is they don't use tweets and that kind of thing like they'll look at them sometimes But they don't use that as like the basis for an article or the right like two or three people with no even avatar
Starting point is 00:55:06 Said something I know so now suddenly, you know Tom Brady can't take his daughter on a vacation or something You know like it's just Well twitter's not as popular as you really as you really think it is gross, bro But but but first of all that's only like the coastal like these like elite cities Or it's also just fuck tards that aren't even working, bro Like they have a lot of people that aren't even working aren't even doing anything and just sitting there tweeting They just sitting there causing a ruckus, you know, you got people have there's somebody they had the other day So she had 740,000 tweets. Oh my god, bitch die. Okay
Starting point is 00:55:40 Bitch die And you got rich people that are fucking rich tarded, bro. That's what I call it, dude You got fucking like share and you got like Share is rich tarded. Yeah, dude yelling at everybody how to control the border how to do this and that we don't live there You know, I have some ideas. Maybe what I think, you know a good idea But what's it like for people that live right there? You're a billionaire, you know, I'm saying build a bridge to your fucking joint Yeah, and you ain't living in a place where the door is to the street. Yeah, okay Let me when you live in like that. Yeah, then talk to me about security
Starting point is 00:56:12 Yeah, Ryan Callan has that thing about that where it's like, that's what you have locks on your door. Yeah, you know what I mean I did the whole border thing is like again It's like it's like issue that it's like layered that this is the this is a result of not taking care of business Agreed. So this is where we are now. Okay. So what do we do about this now? Because like nobody wants to definitively say because even these like pansy liberal fucks are not going to be like They're not going to say out loud. Just let everybody in. Yeah, just let them all in just let them in You know, they're not saying that they're implying it, you know, right? It's a lot of implications. Yeah, because it makes them feel justified. Right. Oh, I feel that I'm virtue signaling right now when I
Starting point is 00:56:50 You know, oh, yeah, oh, look at the kids in cages and all this kind of stuff I don't know what's going on with that. I mean, like I hope that that's not like continuing, you know, but it's like, hey Oh, so like in the same way that you say it was street justice Just do with the gun getting kicked in the head nine times if you break in the law Yeah You sneaking across illegally with your kid. Yeah, that's you putting your kid in danger You brought the kid and now we have to now Take care of your kid. Take care of you treat you like, you know, treat you put you up at the holiday end
Starting point is 00:57:21 What are we supposed to do? Yeah, you know, I mean, so that's like that's what that's what those people think That's how they think about it and cages you could read. I mean you could say camps you could say there's never going to be a Comfortable term, but they it's not like they somebody's just going to show up and build, you know If you want to help out Chelsea handler go down there and build, you know, 700 Hampton ends right on the border You know what I'm saying? Yeah, affected do something all those people they have plenty of rooms in their houses You know what I'm saying? Let's let's let you know what that's what we'll do Hey liberal hollywood elite that are complaining about how the kids are being treated on the border
Starting point is 00:57:56 Open up your homes And let's let you know, let's let two or three families stay and bring a familiar Yeah, you know big house and help them out, you know, I think it'd be great. No cut to those people being like well since you're here Yeah, uh the gardening equipment. I know It's over there and wouldn't that be a great video you send one of those families to like one of those rich people's doors And they're gonna think they're there to work Exactly wouldn't that be a great sketch, bro? Dude, that would be a great sketch, dude. Well, we'll do it. Let's do it. You and me should do a sketch show, man
Starting point is 00:58:27 We always remember when we went weren't as we weren't as like famous, you know, like now you're like, you know, you're not famous You but you're knocking on rogan's door right now. No, we are alarming that the way I'm over doing is alarming people around the country I can I know but but with our powers combined We look like a lesbian couple. Yeah, we got to get why am I lesbian all of a sudden, bro? Oh my god, you the other side of it. I'm the other side of it Yeah, dude, I'm the wild one and you have the one that has their shit put together Eric you look like a softball coach, you know, you look like a woman softball coach
Starting point is 00:59:02 Oh, now I'm a softball coach because on my podcast. I was the help remember Remember I was a butler when you said before right? Gianni raises man. Nick. What did you help us out here? I watched it was a bell hop specifically not butler Now I can see be fine line. You see oh You know what I'm glad to be here to see the source This is the source right now. This is like the matrix and you the white dude in the in the fucking suit And I'm here like you telling me the truth right now I'm going back to Zion
Starting point is 00:59:32 Do you think uh, do you think that races at this point? I feel like racism can be always you feel like oh for sure People are just I don't think everybody's racist man. I think people some people are tribal I think there's a I think there's like a certain like what racism really is this to like to take have power over people and And and and and use that power to keep people back. I agree not everybody's doing that right You know, so and I don't think a lot of people are doing that right Do you think they are I don't think a lot of it's still happening man Obviously, you know, but it's like I think in another two generations even that probably won't be happening
Starting point is 01:00:04 I think it's some of it is stuff that's ingrained in people a little bit some of it comes from bad experiences They might have had but you're talking about prejudice Okay, being prejudice is different from being racist and I think a lot of people are prejudice right, you know They have their they have things about they have their prejudices. Yeah, exactly short people might be like I don't like tall people Yeah, you know, oh, yeah chicks with no money. I don't like young guys that are you know caring and loving You know, I want that old man with that bread I'm just saying you look nobody thinking you and your grant. Let me tell you this all these thoughts out here in LA All right, all these sugar babies. All right, nobody thinking you and your granddaddy going to sushi every week
Starting point is 01:00:45 Okay, yeah, nobody buying that you and pop pop having a little sashami, but in defense of that Okay, not everybody is in a situation like that for that reason like how we're not we're not mid 40s Okay, right a lot of the women are trying to survive. No, that's just to get the women These guys in the mid 40s who are not married. No kids Let's say you still want to have a kid. Mm-hmm, right? Who are you gonna get with who's the relationship you're gonna start? You ain't gonna start with somebody your age, right? That's like going to the pound and getting a three-legged dog You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:20 You don't start with a three-legged dog. You know, you if you have a dog and it loses its leg You keep because you love it. You know, you're not getting rid of it. But you ain't open it with the You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, you're gonna fucking get that little beach You getting that, you know that well bred You're going to the puppy mill, you know whatever that shit is I'm just saying like it's not all situations of an older guy and younger woman is all what the perception of it is You're right. It's just a matter of biology too. You know, I mean if you're somebody that doesn't want to have kids anymore You've decided I don't want to be a dad. I don't think I want to have kids or maybe I'll adopt
Starting point is 01:01:54 Then you could open up your spectrum of like who you could date then yes You could find a nice woman, you know in her late 30s early 40s and you like because they're like they're beautiful They're out there. They got money. They taking care of business. They know what they want in bed. They know how to act They got the hair. Yeah, they Clean, you know, yeah, their place is clean all that kind of stuff They know they got they got their thoughts and in order. They know who they are Yeah, they got a dream journal about a bed. You know what I'm saying, you know, they got their vision board That's in the closet that never got fulfilled. You know what I mean? It's like they know these
Starting point is 01:02:26 Those are vibrant beautiful women. Yeah, but like if you're somebody that's like, well, I still want to have kids You know, I'm not and I'm not saying a 40 year old woman can't have a healthy kid But like if we're talking about starting a relationship, it's gonna be risky. He's gonna be risky But but I'm saying is I start dating you. I gotta talk about that day one. Oh, you're 40. You want to have a baby? Let's go do it. And then, you know, maybe you maybe I want three kids If that's the case then you got to start especially if she got a little cooler about a table with her eggs in it All right, yeah I'll maybe a lot of these girls ain't got that little igloo cooler with the egg. No, how do you feel about that?
Starting point is 01:02:59 So what if you met a woman she 38? Well, first of all, my dad was 70 when I was born So I know he was trying to have a second family so I really should See what I'm saying. He was just trying to he probably was still I'm trying to think how old was your mom? Oh, I was 32 when I was born. So he was still trying to probably Dad was a pimp, huh? A fan. Yeah, he just wanted to have more kids. He wanted to be alive. No money. Oh, he just had games, huh? Dude, my dad the best thing man. One of the best things about him He bought a car for a couple of brothers that lived in that in a neighborhood next door and had these
Starting point is 01:03:27 22s in the back, right? And he couldn't even hear So he'd be rolling around bro. Listen an NPR with the craziest bass you've ever heard, uh, just pull hard back Good day It was insane, dude people looking at us like what do you want to be an old dad? You know, I don't I don't think so, but then sometimes a crazy party is I have such a tough time. Well, now you're gonna be you're gonna we're already it's too late We're gonna be old dads. No, but I'm talking you're gonna go double old, bro That's my dad went double old
Starting point is 01:04:01 But when your kid is 20 and you like, you know, you like right now if we had kids I'll be 59 when my kid's 20. It's from saying we're gonna be old. You know what I mean? That old, bro It's old. Okay. Do you think it's old Johnny's like 14 or something? It's not that old Like my dad's like 55. So it's like kind of in the same Yeah, but how many brothers you're Italian you got like 18 brothers and sisters Yeah, two brothers two of your cousins are fucking right now. You know what I mean? It's that kind of I don't think that's Italian. Yeah. Remembering the godfather I gotta see someone deleted scene
Starting point is 01:04:37 No Godfather three they were cousins 59 is not that old, but I don't see you having a kid in the next year So we're probably looking at about five five more years. I'll take nix of me. I'll say I'll say Because like are you in a relationship? Um, no, exactly. So you're not in a relationship It's gonna take a couple years before you decide it's time to have a kid, right? So you're gonna be in your 45 You know what I mean? Yeah, I could see myself in five years having a child. So nix. It's a good call. Um Gotta interrupt this episode. Uh, I gotta let you know that this past weekend is brought to you by Skillshare And Skillshare, it's uh, it's a place where skills are being shared with you
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Starting point is 01:06:33 Slash Theo Vaughn again go to skillshare.com slash Theo Vaughn to start your two months now That's skillshare.com slash Theo Vaughn support the podcast Get your skills up and now let's get back to the episode with mr. Eric griffin Yeah, man. What do you think about this? Let's let's get in real quick this james avising that went down. Oh, what about the girl with the uh The young lady Had a tweet making fun of extensions
Starting point is 01:07:08 The rapper that got Oh He got killed Extension extension. Yeah, and that room. Yeah, james davis, but that's not the girl But the girl came out and made a joke Oh, also james davis tweeted her about something No, he called the james davis called out the girl because he was the one that made the joke She was the one that made the joke. Right. Okay. I know I know the joke. I've seen I've seen that
Starting point is 01:07:32 I've seen a bit. Did you think it was all right? Um, I I thought I got it But you know what that joke is like what we were talking about earlier about saying the n word, right? It's one of those things where it's like Is this is this necessary? Is it really that funny? Right because like the the structure of the joke I get it. It's hilarious right the point of the point of the joke is funny I don't know if she executed it the way like I bet you if I said it It wouldn't have gotten that that kind of thing, right?
Starting point is 01:08:01 But so that's important too about what you look like. So there's just meek little white girl Who's making this, you know in that kind of smug liberal way, you know Throwing a young deceased mixed boy under the bus, you know a mixed young man Just the way she looks or he could be italian that needed to be part of She needed to realize but I again I get the I'm not mad at her for making the joke I get the joke and I think the structure of the joke is sound I think I think that it could have been funnier than the way she did it Because I get what she was trying to say instead of like it's it's not the joke ain't about him
Starting point is 01:08:35 Right, that's what people need to understand the joke's not about him or even making fun of him. The joke is about Carrying around $50,000, right? That's the joke the joke is like, you know instead of carrying around $50,000, you know use venmo That's funny Yeah, but and so the fact that the guy was killed because of the money is a way of Of emphasizing that he I'm just intellectualizing the joke right now But I'm just saying is she just an executed in a way that it was like super funny Well, it shows you how young people I think to me it feels like Like a millennial generation got more upset about this probably because they attach everything
Starting point is 01:09:13 Just to the person. Yeah. Yeah. It's like more of a me culture. It's all about what I'm saying They don't think right. They don't think they hear they just heard his name and that means it's inappropriate He's dead and you're making fun of him and you're doing all this stuff. It's like no. Yeah, she was making fun of People carrying around a lot of cash right use the venmo app and she used him as an example Exactly, right, but it just wasn't executed in a way That was super funny, right? Should we play it for the audience? Yeah, let's play it Is anyone still mourning xxx tentacion
Starting point is 01:09:52 He's a he's a rapper who was murdered. He's dead now. Um He was he was shot. He was on his way to buy a car with $50,000 in cash And somebody shot him and took the money Which is very tragic But I think also it would be a very good venmo commercial I mean, that's that's the joke. Yeah That's pretty funny. I mean, that's what I'm saying. It's unfortunate the guy died It is but it's like if you tell a joke with jfk in it, bro. He's dead exactly
Starting point is 01:10:23 It's like it's like it's like people People frame this into this thing too about like it becomes racial it becomes like, you know It becomes about this white girl talking about this white. She's she's indian She's yeah, but yeah, but she looks white enough to me, but also. Okay, so she's indian Who who knows that who who's gonna know that like if she if she wanted to look indian She'd look indian. Okay, so I don't want to hear that if I close my eyes. What do I hear? I hear a white girl. Okay, and that's what people around the country that they don't know They don't even know her name and then you add that element to it
Starting point is 01:10:57 So what is that supposed to mean? And that's why I say people want to know what you are So they can know how to hate you like I'm all for her not saying like she shouldn't say what she is or anything It's like no, I'm just a person making a funny joke. Right, you know, but I think she should If I were I would I would go even further into this. I double down. That's what I would do I would be double down I would be the dirt with dina hasham and she makes jokes that Throw that that that are just completely no holds bar. That's exactly what I would do and she would have a career for herself Yes, you could be the next uh, who is the big lady? They got skin that lost a lot of weight. Paula Belle. No
Starting point is 01:11:31 The big lady they got thin thin and In a very She did the roast Lisa Lampinella. Oh, that's who I meant. And look once she lost all that weight. Where's she at? Yeah, she disappeared, bro. Well twice I don't know. She like baby Jessica, bro. She fucking fell off the face of the earth, bro So what did James Davis say? So he was he was just like the first one that uh, kind of brought the joke to light and was like this wasn't wrong Uh, this is wrong and made a big stir about it and everybody was criticizing him for attacking another comic
Starting point is 01:12:05 I agree with that though. I like James. Yeah, I like James too, but I feel like this is one of these things where it's like This is like one of those things. It's like, what are we doing right now? I mean if we're gonna like if I'm gonna criticize her at all It's gonna be like well because I'm not a fan of this type of comedy This kind of like slow, you know, right? I agree. She's boring. Well, yeah, that's boring to me That's I wouldn't see that for an hour. She's a writer. Yeah, but it's a well crafted joke I mean kudos, you know, but it's just like that's that kind of smug shit that comedy central wants to put You know, you have to watch that for a half hour and be like you're supposed to be like, oh, is this gonna be the next like
Starting point is 01:12:38 That's what coming. Yeah, like funny is not a thing anymore Like I guess for some reason it's not important to be funny or entertaining like is that entertaining Like like that's the kind of joke where you see it and you're supposed to go like this Well done. Yeah, oh well done. My yeah, you know, that's not I want to be like Good one. I want people to be like I'm gonna enjoy myself if you perform it in a certain way people gonna be like that's fucked up Yeah, but they they they they they appreciated what you did That was just more for the shock value. Yeah, she's a writer the way it was presented. I'm saying but I ain't mad at her
Starting point is 01:13:16 I'm just telling you know, what's her name? Dina Hashem Dina Hashem putting out there to you. You ain't you did all right. Keep doing you. Yeah, you know That's the chances we have to take Yeah, and also yeah, and James. I mean, I've heard from people in meetings ever from people Just on the street that James Davis is hard to work with I've heard that repeatedly that the young man's hard to work with Have you do you know him? Huh? Get him on the podcast. Yeah, I'll have I've loved having come on. I'm just saying that I've heard that I'm not saying that he's a bad guy. I'm not saying that he's not funny I'm just saying that that I've heard that I just wonder if I'm starting to say that about you now. They are I can believe it
Starting point is 01:13:52 I believe it But I'll say this You believe it. I can believe it. Yeah, you know who Theo is now now. Theo's the guy now on stage Complaining about it's too loud in the hallway. Yeah, that's how I knew you changed. That's when you changed Well, the place also comedy store. No, you changed Theo Don't change that would two years ago. That wouldn't have been a thing to you You would have just powered through now you up there like I
Starting point is 01:14:17 It's so loud out there dog. You bougie motherfucker. What happened to you bro? I'll say this happened to you comedy store used to it used to be a lot It used to run a lot more smoother. I think It's gotten chaotic out there, bro last night Dude joey ds on stage the mic fucking shit the whole time dude It was shit before he went up there and it's like y'all letting this man be up there with that shitty mic Well, that's something they got to take. That's a that's a technical issue, but every time the technician dry He's out back smoking dope every set
Starting point is 01:14:49 That's true You think you know, you think he working radio shack on the off days. I think he knows how to work all the equipment God See what I'm saying. I you changed I'm just saying bro They got now they got a stool over there where the guy that by the window He used to stand up and work right now. He's sitting over there milling around, bro Hey, I got attacked at the comedy store
Starting point is 01:15:15 So I get I mean this I'm just saying stuff has been going on for a long time So I don't know what to tell you but like, yeah, I think you should have james on I don't know why I don't know Why he did that. I just I just you know, I just I would never I don't know if I would ever come out against a joke He's like this is wrong. Right. That's what I'm saying too. Like where's my mindset then? Yeah, because then it's like who who's allowed to say what that's not the business we're in We are not in the business of censorship Right, we're in the business of taking chances and sometimes when you take those chances They're gonna go too far and it's gonna be pushed back like Kathy Griffin. Yeah, that was a terrible joke
Starting point is 01:15:50 It was terrible and she's now bounced back. She's talking. She made a documentary about everything that's happened to her She's got a new special coming out. So that's what we have to do. Where's the special? I don't I don't know It's probably gonna be netflix or something like that. I'm not sure But they have I got that what I'm saying that there's a pushback after but don't be coming out talking about What someone can or cannot say? My criticism is technique You know what I mean, right? But like I get the structure Yeah, if somebody had a joke, I would never be like, oh, I might think to myself. Oh, I don't like that joke or whatever exactly
Starting point is 01:16:21 That's how I feel about things. I go. I didn't like that. That's not my cup of tea. That's how that's how I look at stuff I don't I don't ever I'm just never like I just go man. I don't I wouldn't have said it like that That's all it is. You know, I still try to enjoy people most of the time. I don't ever even comment I don't we only we don't even usually talk about this. I thought I said it would be interesting Um, yeah, you brought it up, you know, yeah, and why just know everybody's been talking about it recently Yeah, I thought it would be interesting, but again, it's one of those things. It's gonna blow over think about together It's gonna blow over. Oh, bro. It nobody cares. We won't even put the clip up. It's so blown over Yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:16:51 Who's it these people have got shit to say to me? Yep. These are people that uh, nick are they all white, huh? Dude, if you see him as that I see this man. I can't even tell what color he is This could be a woman. This is what I always say about me. He don't see color. He only see white people That's hilarious That is an interesting statement What's up eg and tv Hope it's going well Steven from Daytona Beach, Florida here. I would have steve. I just got a couple questions. Um, eric griffin
Starting point is 01:17:26 I'm wondering if you've ever had any formal singing training Because you actually sound like a really good singer And uh, second question Could you guys do a little improv singing sesh This guy's gang gang This guy's high Okay, they're all high. Okay. Oh, it seems like it
Starting point is 01:17:51 Well, we are the world what you got. What's what's your favorite song? We did we are the world the other night on stage Oh, you did who we had the my that dude damn long neck was out. Have you seen him on instagram? So damn long and uh We came he came on stage and we had a group. We got some diversity up there and we did it He sang we are the world man. You got some diversity up there. I love how you always recognize Look at all this diversity. I do everybody's always talking about it See you have you have some feelings about it. I like how you have feelings about it I said, look, let's let's let's make it a part of me feels like you want to be like, why can't it be white?
Starting point is 01:18:27 Is it okay to be just be white sometimes? This is your black hat, dude black hat. No, no, I'm saying to you There's always an issue Life you have an issue with any black people in heaven be like what the fuck is going on up here in heaven, man Yeah, because I'm sure up in heaven. It's gonna not be the right stuff The movie choice is gonna be all white Yeah Oh my god, what is this? That's my god. That's damn long man. No, this is him. Yeah, you had him on stage Yeah, he came up. This is wow. This we're second cousins actually
Starting point is 01:18:59 This is you like if you were locked in a bunker with no food for like Like it was like a you thought the zombie apocalypse was about to start Yeah, you went into your bunker, but then you didn't have enough food And this is after they found you like a year later You've been living off like spam, but there's just one can left and then they found you you come out you like Just whisper teaching roaches to do circus tricks Yeah, you got roaches trade. They doing like, you know, they doing fucking cabaret
Starting point is 01:19:26 What um, was there a question that came in too? Yeah, we got we got another we didn't do the song Oh, we didn't do the song. Is there a song? Thank you for the singing compliment You know, we on the lovin with the over I'm trying to think of a song. I could even sing man. I'm trying to think of a song that you're your country guy I like all kinds of music man. Don't don't put me in don't pigeonhole me. Oh, yeah I don't have to it don't have to be a diversity song. I see you're liking a lot of church music You know church music. Yeah, this little light of mine. Yes. I'm gonna let it shine This little light of mine
Starting point is 01:19:59 I'm gonna I can do the fat black girl part Oh, I can see you being like kind of the fat black girl that maybe uh, you know, it's kind of getting their shit back together You know, and I'm singing that church. Yeah, I can see you at church. Maybe like on 227 one of the side characters 227 reference bro, how good was 227? Oh, this is my this is my dude right here. People don't know about 227. It's underrated Why don't we are not on a sitcom? We should still be cops or something. Do we want to be on the sitcom? Oh, look at that's how much money he making y'all out here. You hear him here and bragging about the money and this In the in the thio von compound. I'm in right now
Starting point is 01:20:40 He literally got the simpsons person to come and draw this that's how much money he got we got orange people in here, bro I'm saying we're all orange, bro base power though This your diversity Everybody's orange. I like it. No, not everybody's orange bill burr's wife black as hell and me That's the diversity. That's the choice. Y'all wanted bro. This is considered white In here. Oh, there's another black person right there. I'll go charlie me and the guy. Yep. That's charlie me and the guy
Starting point is 01:21:09 This question comes from uh, josh. He's looking for some advice from both you Oh, theo eric hump the podcast is going well. I have a question for you both and it is um What's a good way to You know discover new things in terms of like a career path Or things you might be interested in that you haven't really found yet Because I work a warehouse job and I see my boss and it's just this wicked Fat guy kind of missing almost all of his hair and I hope he doesn't watch fields podcast I don't want to be doing that when I'm older. So, you know
Starting point is 01:21:43 I guess I just need some advice on how to find something that I'm more passionate about and it's Okay cut to cut to his boss bringing him into office. Hey, uh, come on in just one little work assessment and then he turns on this So am I the fat? And then they have a real conversation together finally for the first time exactly and they start a business together Boom. I think uh, what you could do buddy. What's the guy's name? Um, josh. I think what you should do is You know figure out what moves you what you're passionate about And then like stay in your car drive uber and lift for a little while to make money to make ends meet while you're going to You know that two-year program to be a dentist or or or whatever it is that you want to do
Starting point is 01:22:26 You have to do it most people don't do what they want to do out of fear You haven't left that job because you're scared because you're worried about the things that you have in your life That you're a slave to your possessions You're a slave to your rent and or that girlfriend that you don't really love Figure out what you want to do in your life and then go out and do it and then you find your happiness. Yeah, that's what you have to do Yeah, I think look at the there's some good suggestions, man. If you're at the warehouse and you got the big boss, dude, I think uh What I would do is I used to work at a warehouse, man I didn't mind that I like some of the smells and the peacefulness of just the
Starting point is 01:23:02 Products sitting there behind the scenes knowing they were about to go on the big stage out front, you know big stage You clearly were robbing the place too. How much stuff did you take home with you? How many boxes did you open up and been like, oh Shit, there's olive oil dude. I will say this. I still one time. I'm one time when I work at the grocery I stole a gross of baby food 144 jars Well, you out on the streets like you have a jacket like you need this baby food You need them peas. I was at the house, bro. Are you eating baby food? Yeah, dude. I'll tell you this, bro
Starting point is 01:23:32 Oh, here we go. I'm not I here's how you know, you're not a pedophile dude after two or three jars. I was over it, man Okay, I don't know if that's how pedophilia works, but But you know because here's the thing if you're a pedophile, you're gonna be cracking into those jars forever You know trying to have a meet, you know taking somebody out to dinner or whatever I just knew after three jars. I was like fuck all of this man But here's what I would say man. Yeah, I would have a little bit of a game plan Yeah, um and you'll move when you're ready man when you're really really ready to make a move When it's enough. Yeah, but don't wait till you like you have to snap on on the fat boss
Starting point is 01:24:06 So don't wait till like you're so unhappy. That's true. You're so unhappy that you make a bad choice Set yourself up. You know start saving that warehouse money job, you know, so you save it save the money figure it out Like I'm this is my plan Man get a vision board, bro. Yep. Have a plan because I will agree sometimes you build up resentments Like I'll sometimes I won't want to say something I won't want to talk to somebody about something then it's been two weeks Now I'm angry at them I'm angry at me that I'm afraid to make the call and then finally when I do make the call or have the conversation
Starting point is 01:24:36 It all goes away. It took 30 seconds. Yeah, everything was cool. And now everybody's quiet in the hallway. Yeah Yeah, man. Now everybody's quiet in the hallway So oh, yeah, I would say just take it easy, bro Take it easy have a little bit of a plan and be sure that you want to man Maybe you are happy and it's just part of you telling yourself that you're not happy You might want to you might work there for the next 20 years and really enjoy it. Yeah enjoy exactly Like he's it's he has his own judgment on this job that he's doing He has his own expectations that he's not I love working man
Starting point is 01:25:10 I love when I worked at a behind the scenes at the delchamps, bro I'll be back there at night stacking dude. We used to stack as much toilet tissue as high as we could bro We could get to almost 11 rolls one time one on top of the next man just having fun in there Well, we had so much fun, dude and people would sleep on top of the stuff and people would You know, we had so much time we'd be back there all night driving the forklift and doing forklift jousting bruh and just What company is this? I don't ever This is delchamps and they went out of business. Yeah, I wonder why wonder why delchamps is gone Sounds like a great company with a good hiring practices
Starting point is 01:25:47 I used to clock in for work and go home and come back and clock out, bro The the worst that this is But look that was teamwork man. Is that the only the only two questions we got? No, there's the more. Um, that was teamwork teamwork make the dream work But yeah, man, I would have a little plan or just find out if you enjoy what you're doing You might enjoy it sometimes There's all these personal listening to podcasts a lot of guys and a lot, you know We'll say like oh you should like sometimes we might enjoy what we are doing, you know
Starting point is 01:26:18 But I wouldn't build up any resentment if you're not and I would have a plan if you're gonna make a move Yes Have a plan because dude, that's how a lot of people with opioids and stuff start you get a couple weeks out of work You're chilling And that's when you're like, oh, fuck. I'll have a pill bro And then you chill them for the rest of your life And then you feel like the only way out is a life of crime. Yeah, it's like girls that think like You know the only way I have to you know sell my body or I have to it's like damn
Starting point is 01:26:44 Yeah, then what you know, there's people working at McDonald's. They're not you know, there's jobs And every job should be if you want it to be should be a mean to the next thing You know if you have that vision, you know find a career instead of a job But that's the hard part right and some people's career could be a family You know a career might be a family to job Let's just but might be a side thing that you do because you like being a husband Are you like being a dad or you like being a live at home son? You know A lot of sons living at home on 50 now
Starting point is 01:27:15 Have you seen how hard it is out here on these streets? Oh, trust me, man. Believe me. I don't want to pay the rent I'm paying. I wish I was at home. Really? Yeah, but your family's in France. Don't they France. No, my mom My mom I said that just moved back from Spain. Oh, that's you living back in california now. Wow. So I'm like, I'm That second bedroom like I feel you What is uh, what's your stepdad like? He's uh, he's a cool dude. Really nice dude. You know, he's a brilliant assault of the earth type of guy I always say that he's gonna get my mom into heaven. Oh nice. He's gonna be his plus one. Yeah You know what I mean? He's gonna get to the gate. She's gonna be like, I got a guest. Oh, shit. They brought miss griffin
Starting point is 01:27:56 Yeah, what did your mom do? I feel like that'd be a great name for a teacher miss griffin I don't know. She was like she worked at before she retired. She worked in like health and safety So she was a health and safety specialist. Are you used to kind of do you get a lot of your sense of humor from your mom? Or yeah, yeah, my mom's really me and mom's well. She thinks she just like me She thinks she's funnier than she is. Yeah, you know what I mean? So she like, yeah, she'll just like, you know Because my mom right now I'm dealing with my mom has dementia. Oh, wow Yeah, so I'm dealing with that right now, you know, and like if she sees this she's gonna be like, I don't got dementia You know, she's right now. She's yelling at the camera and then she'll say it again a half hour later
Starting point is 01:28:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's crazy. But like other but like She's still sarcastic. She's still got a sense of humor. Like we're in the doctor's office talking to the doctor about this And I'm saying things and she's like, he's adopted She just you know making a joke, you know, I mean, so she's like very funny, you know Like every time we talk about this and my mom goes she goes, oh, Eric. Oh, where am I? Who am I? You know, she makes the joke like like that that that's oh dementia Yeah, she's making a joke about it and I go, oh, that's funny ma. Tell me where you are. She don't know She's saying the wrong place. She still thinks she's in Spain, you know, that's what she said to the doctor
Starting point is 01:29:08 She told the doctor. Oh, I'm in Spain Is it kind of scary to see that? It is but at the same time At the same time, it's like this is the new baseline So I'm not gonna like I can't be sitting around being like, oh my god, my mom has you know I just go let me just enjoy what we had because she's still it's crazy because dementia is that kind of thing We're like everything's fine except for like these two things Right, you know and these two things are like part of their reality
Starting point is 01:29:32 So you just have to go with it. You know, that's the hard part. I'm talking about it on stage because that's how I You know relieve all my stress or anxiety about it, but I'm really not like super depressed about it I'm just kind of like, okay. We're just gonna deal with it and just move forward Yeah Does she talk to you about like on a personal level like that she's scared about it? No, because she doesn't my mom's very stubborn So she doesn't even realize it. She doesn't she knows something's up And I think she knows more than she wants to let on right but it's better to say like, you know
Starting point is 01:29:59 It's like for her to be like like she thinks her grandmother's house is 10 minutes away like a walk You know and instead of like being like Maybe I'm wrong. No, no, no. It's she's adamant, you know, and she's getting a car. We're gonna get in the car We're driving around 45 minutes. She don't know where the hell it is. Yeah, but she's saying if I could just find the river I'm like, there's no river around here. You know what I mean? Yeah, after a while, it's getting upset. It's like where the river at show me the river I open up the map You know, we're right back at church. Yeah, I'm like, cry me a river
Starting point is 01:30:31 You could go out and just Dude, you know, they put some black stem cells in the Justin Timberlake. Let's be honest. Here we go I've heard this. I'm not joking man. No, that's a lot of black dudes have said that First of all, if if they could do that, all you honkeys would be doing that But we can't afford them, bro You can afford them now. You don't even want to be on tv. That could be a stem cell research room right over there, man That's your stem cells, but we can't afford the good good stuff from Egypt And that's what they said. It's an Egypt
Starting point is 01:31:00 Bro, I'm just saying a couple of black guys I'll talk to at a pizza place one time at night told me because that's where science is done At that pizza place that's where The world problems are solved. I'm saying okay that they told me there's a secret lab in Egypt No, no, they heard me that they heard that Justin Timberlake is at the pyramids got black stem cells Do you believe it? No That's not a thing. I swear. I swear to god, man. Yeah, but that's not a thing Well flat earth wasn't a thing and I'll tell you this about five years ago
Starting point is 01:31:33 I was at a burger king and a black gentleman told me this true story. Oh another another Another intellectual hotbed I'll say the burger the burger king bathroom, but here They always got the scoop, you know, they got the word on the street, man You know and so and he told me flat he goes look man. I'm gonna tell you The earth ain't round brah and I thought he was crazy dude 40 minutes later. I thought he was maybe crazy But then three years later flat earth is a huge thing. No, it's not a huge thing Flat earth. It's not a huge thing huge man. There's documentaries about it. We don't know where we are right now
Starting point is 01:32:13 You know And this is where the podcast goes off the rails We already had our sam triply episode. So we're good with the flat earth. Yeah Nobody, you know, but are you hearing anything like that? Who'd you just let him talk whenever he wants? We try not he can't we shouldn't if I don't think them triply is a flat earth or really No, it's not but this motherfucker should raise his hand like we have school. I agree. I agree I don't want him just talking out of turn like that Bro, look tell me about it. He's about to be in that show power the in oh, he's in power
Starting point is 01:32:43 Yeah, and they're putting and he won't stop. He tells us about it every day and uh, he's been on it though He loves being the white guy around, you know, tell me about it, dude He said I told I said look bro if you're doing two seasons of power or you can have a mixed kid in a year Yeah, did he date you date black women? Uh, yeah, I do. No, you don't. Oh, yeah, I do. He just said his publicist just texted him. Yeah I'll make sure you say yes to that. His publicist by the way fine. Have you seen? Oh kassandra kassandra. I met her Yeah, kassandra dope. What's up girl, holla. I met her the other day. Um, what else we got? Nicholas?
Starting point is 01:33:16 You want some news some more questions? Yeah, let's get in a little bit of news man We got Eric from one of the funniest guys man, dude. I love watching you. Uh, you know, I feel like uh, you know I love watching you too though. I love watching both like watching each other. Oh this? So uh coming to america Adrian Peterson is reportedly in serious debt after making over a hundred million dollars in his career The highest paid running back of all time. He's being sued for failure to pay a 5.2 million dollar loan and owes almost 10 million dollars to Multiple different creditors and that 5.2 million dollar loan was just to cover other loans Who's it? Obviously
Starting point is 01:33:51 This is what credit of the zoo of fucking washington d.c. Do look he's on a camel back as you can see the picture This is why he's broke. Yeah, this is bad decisions right here This is how you can't just give anybody a hundred million dollars and think they're gonna know what to do with it Yeah, I mean you ever seen that 30 for 30 about all the broke NFL players. This is why That's why they broke they do him dumb shit like that. How much is a camel? Can you look up how much is to rent a camel? Yeah, and that documentary was called actually just broke too Just there you go and the picture is in this is Adrian bought the camel is Adrian Peterson on top of a camel Yeah, or it could be a sick horse or something. Can we is there any other pictures of it?
Starting point is 01:34:28 Yeah, let's see. That's just ridiculous. That's why he's broke and and that's okay. I'm not where is a guy like that gonna get 50 million dollars You know a camel costs about $55,000. Okay, so you can afford a camel if you're him That's half a get it to you know three running place. What are you talking about the the upkeep of that camel too though? You got to have a camel guy. You don't just have a camel in the backyard Well, how does he have other animals? We don't know anything about that. Do we this picture was specifically from either his birthday party Or his kids birthday party just right in the midst of the whole Hitting his kid with a switch thing. Yeah, and he chose to be photographed like this
Starting point is 01:35:09 Well, I'll say this the media probably cost him a lot of of lawyer money. I bet that cost him 10 million dollars to get So I'm saying I got but I'm saying you're you're a guy that you were running back That's your skill Unless he goes into broadcasting How's he gonna make that money those creditors? They're done. They're stupid He's he's never gonna get this money back. Well, he's never gonna get the money But and also, you know, sometimes it just takes a generation. Sometimes it's a generation or two
Starting point is 01:35:34 There's all it's people like there's a timeline of things. There's a learning curve. Some people like You know, your dad has to make certain mistakes. So you don't make them, you know Like his son may become one of the best hedge fund managers. You don't say you just don't know but sometimes there's like a You know, like maybe this he's the first person in his family that ever had any money You know, I'm saying this sometimes like there's no influence people don't get because anytime you go in Let's get that get the camel Can you give me a camel get that camel? But the camel I guess could stay in the yard with dogs, right? They don't need water or anything
Starting point is 01:36:09 No, they do need water See, this is what I'm saying. You need a camel guy. That guy's on retainer So there's money for that. That's gonna be 30 000 a year. Yeah, I'm saying the camel costs money I just I'm just saying when you you know what everybody should live as a comic for five years Then they learn how to be frugal. That's a good point Because I learned you know, you learn how to like dude. I remember using a bled of A butcher knife to try to put two packets of mayonnaise in it a tuna can and swirl I'm saying man, we we learned how to be broke. We know how to be broke
Starting point is 01:36:39 So I'm saying that's the kind of guy he was poor or whatever. I don't know his story. Yeah, but he just how about this? Beautiful man though. He does do what a physique on him. I mean, dude. I am Agonis. He's done though. A real agonist. He could do modeling. He could do senior modeling He's not 75 and he still has one good year. So he's gonna be running out of debt this year. I mean look at him God damn Hey, yeah, that's that's that's a man right there. That's a thought boy. Look at these fucking I want those stem cells That's what I'm telling you. That's what he should do. He should sell his stem cells
Starting point is 01:37:18 You don't think Justin Timberlake got a couple ap's in him Can we For a minute You know what this is like for 1995 get theos singing all the classics Man, that was a good time Oh, man, bro, you remember when the bodyguard soundtrack hit? Where were you, bro? Where three places I knew where I was 9 11 when the bodyguard soundtrack came out And now that I've been on the of it
Starting point is 01:38:13 Now they now they selling like tours doing it now they selling tours to her, you know Yeah to the bathtub now. Oh, yeah, and her son died in the bathtub too, man. It's basically just like a little narnia It's like at the closet in that Line the witch in the wardrobe that thing becoming a real halfway house for houston. That's the death tub Because even her daughter died It's crazy a little scrunchy or whatever the daughter's name was she but the boy The boys see my I don't know man. You get caught up in the drugs But it's crazy. See how the mother did it and then it went into the kids crazy
Starting point is 01:38:45 And bobby's still out there getting fucked up sad. It's sad. Do you ever see their show being bobby brown? Yes, that she was How sad was it they took even I used to love that fucking show. They were on pill the kids were on pills though half the time You can tell that but they were but the thing is they made that show themselves So so they're like in a way they kind of had dementia because they thought oh, this is gonna be dope We go put this together they edited it themselves and then they sold it the way it was and they revealed so much nonsense about themselves It was crazy. Yeah You see that episode where
Starting point is 01:39:19 When her daughter was alive, so you have bobby's kids and then their kids together You know, so his kids tommy davison. I think was one of bobby's kids, wasn't he? They weren't rich. Yeah, right. So the the the one girl she go they go shopping and she got hundreds Yeah, she just you know and they just you know, I was like, damn. Why would you do that? Whitney? That's messed up Why are you gonna send your daughter flossing like that to her half sisters and stuff to making them feel bad? She only had hundreds. Yeah, it's crazy That's crazy, man crazy lifestyle We're at about an hour 40. Oh, all right, man. I guess we gotta get out of here
Starting point is 01:39:55 You gotta get out of here man all this time to get me on that's it. Did it take a long time? Yeah, it's been a long time to you. That's it. Yeah, because remember back in the day when the podcast was like whatever He was all like, oh man, come on my And now we wouldn't have you on yeah, now wouldn't have me on Jan Janney handles the book a man, baby Jarvis over there. Yeah. Oh, that's why he had to get he had to get on mine first He was like, yeah, see that's something going on here. Oh, Janney's tricky, bro He knows what he's doing little motherfucker. I know he's tricky. I didn't even my publicist reach out to you And then I was there and I was like, I have Eric on and I booked you you and dane cook have the same publicist
Starting point is 01:40:29 No, I've talked to this dude in the parking lot. Yeah, we talked about it. Yeah. Yeah, but you yeah, exactly You want are you doing that thing now? I mean, I'm you know booked up for we are We're literally booked up until almost the end of your mouth Dude, we I know man, and I appreciate you listen. No, I'm joking I'm happy for all your success man. I love I love seeing it, you know from where it started to where you're at right now This is the dream. Yeah, you know what I mean? This is what we did to do this for so if one of my homies Can do that dream and break away from the pack like this. Oh, it's great Thanks, man. It's really great. That's why I started a pie. I was like, I gotta start a pocket rithin with
Starting point is 01:41:09 Griffin check that out rithin with griffin go to rithin with griffin dot com or error griffin dot com To see all my dates and all that bullshit. How's your experience been with uh with podcasting? It's great I mean, it's a job. You know, I mean, I don't got a compound and like a you know a little gay boy to help me out with Yeah, but um that's twink, bro. You know twinkin with lincoln. That's what we do for five dollars. You can meet jianny, bro Wait, that's not the link twinking with lincoln hit that link. You know, it's just him in a no shirt I love Theo tattooed on his chest. No, so I It's a slow process I wish I because I remember like you're on episode 100 or whatever
Starting point is 01:41:46 So I'm on episode 40. Yeah, you know, I mean, so it's like I'm like damn I wish it would have done it earlier, but I enjoy it and it's like, you know I love like being like one away from the fans and like, you know, people really I think they just I think comedy fans appreciate this format more than anything else more than tv shows, you know I think movies are still number one I think if you're in a movie and it goes whatever people are like, oh, that's what makes you a star still But this is like we have our old tight audience and it's lucrative and it's fun and this makes us a human and I I don't I don't think I think
Starting point is 01:42:17 Celebrity is kind of becoming a different type of thing where I think we're we're just for me sometimes It's more influence. Like who do I want to let influence my world right now? You know, it's like how we're called influencers. Right. Yeah, I think of it more as like, uh Yeah, I think the the idea of celebrity and some of the greed and stuff that comes with that are just the idea of what you are It's almost becoming bizarre, you know, yeah, if we if you if we separate ourselves too much from humanity It's just fucking bizarre. Oh, you know, but these people like how many you've met some like rich celebrities Oh, dude, they're not even human beings anymore. And they're delusion. They act so weird. It's crazy, man I just like I thought myself. I never want to be like that. Yeah, like when I'm on a set
Starting point is 01:42:59 I like to like I'm over with the grips You know slapping five with me. Hey, what's up, uh, dude that drives the truck. Yeah, you know, these are the real people Oh, dude, I'm me. Look, I ain't me too in an actress. I'm me too. One of the girls over at the soda cart, you know I'm saying I'm a man of the people The one that don't have any influence or power that can say anything Do you want to know those those are the ones I'm just saying bro. All I'm saying is what you're saying that a lot I'm just saying a lot of rumors that I've heard that aliens and black people aren't getting along
Starting point is 01:43:32 That Justin Timberlake bought egyptian stem cells Why aren't aliens and black people? Why wouldn't they be getting along? I could see it I could see them having some differences, but I don't know exactly Well, when you know, please tell me. Yeah. Are there any black alien hunters? Do we know any? No, because I don't know any. Can we get when we find one Johnny? That's when you know, that's like look one up or book one for the podcast one for the podcast. That's when the world is finally It's we finally like racism's gone. Yeah when black people start doing dumb white shit
Starting point is 01:44:06 You know what I mean? That's when like, you know when fear factor has all black people on it. We're like, okay racism is over Racism over we made it. We did it. We've crossed over when you see black people Parachuting and parasailing and shit when you see like a bear and there's a black guy like get back there, you know When you that kind of shit starts happening. We're like, oh man, the world is a better place The world is a better place Oh, it's not gonna be fun though. I don't think oh one more thing before we get out of here Theo is thinking about going to Abu Dhabi and he's a little nervous and I know you spent Oh, yeah, you're gonna be fine. You're fine. Don't worry about it. Goodbye. You recommend it. Yeah. Yeah, you're gonna be fine
Starting point is 01:44:42 How many nights should I stay there? Uh, how how many shows you're doing? I'm not I'm just gonna go for the UFC fight. I think Oh, I'm considering it. Anyway, I'll just go like, you know, just go like four days three days three days three nights Just go like three nights. That's enough just because of the travel too It's gonna take you so much time to get there You got to get acclimated give yourself a chance to relax. It's not a lot going on in that city It's just a metropolis of like buildings and stuff like that. It's not like there's like a you know, you'll find stuff to do You know, if you're going with a group of people or something. Yeah, yeah, it'll be fine. Okay
Starting point is 01:45:13 It's gonna be fine, dude. Don't worry about it. Eric Griffin, man. One of the funniest guys I know man. Thanks for coming in and spending time with us today, bro riffing with Griffin check it out and uh, let's do it again soon, man Yeah, you know, well, you know, whatever Johnny needs, you know what I mean? That'd be what it is, man. Cut to be like Yeah, 2021 may I think we have you down Oh, this is what I'm talking about. This is exactly the shit. All y'all ain't shit. All y'all ain't shit But it's gonna take a little time
Starting point is 01:46:08 For me to set that parking brake and let myself on one Shine that light on me I'll sit and tell you my stories Shine on me And I will find a song I will sing it just for you And now I've been moving way too fast Don't the runaway train with a heavy load of powder

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