This Past Weekend - Joe Jitsukawa | This Past Weekend #144

Episode Date: November 1, 2018

Theo Von sits down with Joe Jitsukawa. https://www.youtube.com/joejitsukawa https://www.instagram.com/joejitsukawa https://twitter.com/joejitsukawa/ This episode brought to you by… Hello Fresh http...s://www.hellofresh.com/theo60 Visit the link above and use code theo60 for $20 off your first three boxes, for a total of $60 off Podium https://podium.com/tpw Use this link to save 10% on your monthly subscription Grey Block Pizza 1811 Pico Blvd. Santa Monica, CA http://bit.ly/GreyBlock Music “Shine” - Bishop Gunn http://bit.ly/Shine_BishopGunnSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Today's guest is a Japanese-American entrepreneur and entertainer. He is the host of one of the most popular shows, JK News. I'm so happy to have him here today, Mr. Joe Jitsukawa. We had a Joey Diaz episode that we sat on for almost two months. You know, just trying to... Because we just had other comics that came in or like, you know, somebody would come in that was like, you know, you don't want it to all be goofy or...
Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah, yeah. That's what I like about your channel, actually, is because you, I mean, you've had Jordan Peterson on. Yeah. And it's super serious, right? But I mean, it's never too serious because it's with you. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I struggle with knowing, you know, if I'm being, I don't know, I struggle sometimes
Starting point is 00:01:31 if it's a guest that's like, you know, very smart or something like Jordan Peterson, like a real, you know, or somebody like that with, like, I guess being afraid to joke around because I feel like, I don't know, I guess, like, I feel like if I joke too much with somebody like that, that they're going – they're going to shut down. They'll think – especially since it's someone older. Yeah, that's true. They'll think like – older people will feel like younger people are manipulating them sometimes just because of the difference in like language or things you like kind of say. They'll think like, oh, is this person making fun of me even if you're not? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Like, oh, is this a troll interview? Right. It's like an Ali G kind of say they'll think like oh is this person making fun of me even if you're not yeah yeah like oh is this a troll interview you know it's like an ollie g kind of thing yes yeah i get it yeah yeah but um anyways man congrats dude i mean i remember when you first got on jk news i saw your instagram you were like at a hundred thousand and like now you're like like yeah three hundred yeah and then like your channel too um when i when i first saw it i was like dang this is crazy like this guy's super talented and you just like within a matter of months man yeah and thanks yeah dude for real like and i saw you live in minnesota when we were hanging out i was like no shit dude you got me i was dying in tears it's been a while since i started like since i cried during the stand-up yeah your beetlejuice bit got me dying bro yeah that was a scary i was a i mean i was in a scary
Starting point is 00:02:52 time of my life but it was definitely kind of a ridiculous time um yeah so joe and i saw each other in at the gary varner chuck uh show in rochester what would you think about would you think about uh gary v after had you seen him before like would you know about gary v before and then would you think yeah actually one of my business partners he's he's in that world like he used to work with like a lot of motivational speakers and stuff like that and he put me on him right and then he's like you want to you want to get to know this guy most most of these guys i don't really like because they don't run businesses or they don't know what they're talking about they just sell dreams and stuff so they sound like like a used car salesman to me but then this dude when i heard him i was like oh shit this guy he's a businessman like he he he
Starting point is 00:03:41 has his parents i think it was a liquor store, a wine company, and he blew it up. Yeah, I think he had a wine company, and then he tripled their sales once he got actively pushing the business. I mean, they had a business to begin with. Exactly. And the stuff that he says makes sense. And I know this because I own a few restaurants, and I've been in business for a while. So I'm like, all right, cool. I could tell that he's not bullshitting.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I like what he's saying. He's straightforward. And I think that's what we need right now. We need a guy that can just be straight about everything. Right. Yeah. Do you think – yeah, because I watch every – when things I watch, I'm like, oh, is this person – are they just giving me information? Are they somebody that I could look at as like an actual guide?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Are they just selling me something um you know those are the things that i i think you know are my natural inclinations when i'm watching something like okay is this just for entertainment yeah is this for entertainment and education is this just an uh a hidden advertisement you know yeah um but yeah i thought it was interesting i left out of there i i definitely thought it was interesting. I left out of there. I definitely thought it was interesting. I felt like I get this vibe, and I can be totally wrong. It's just most of the vibes I get are wrong. But that Gary, he's just so into business, though, that it becomes almost like an obsession. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:05:00 That's where I don't want to be ever in my life. I woke up at probably 10, 30 a.m. today, so I don't think I'll ever get to that place. But I know what you mean. It's all about that balance, right? You don't want to obsess to the point where your relationships suffer. When you're just green, where you have like, yeah, your family has like $100 million. What does that even mean? I kind of get it because I have friends like him.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Right. Do you really? Yeah. get it because i have friends like him right and do you really yeah the way they see business is like a video game so they're you know how some people are super obsessed with like different hobbies and video games or like some people want to surf like 10 hours a day or something like that right and that's the way this guy's you masturbate a lot of our listeners want to masturbate for half the day. Right. And some of these guys have been sending me pictures and artwork. Some guy sent me a drawing the other day, allegedly done in skeet or whatever they call it. Did they do a jack off onto a piece of paper?
Starting point is 00:05:56 I didn't see him make the paint, you know what I'm saying? But I definitely saw the final artwork. And the art wasn't even any good and i felt bad for looking at it and then he sent me a message like just look again and see if you like the picture and i was like and i looked again because i want to be i don't want to not be somebody that doesn't care about somebody's art yeah you know and it still was just horrible it just didn't even look like art look like somebody just honestly masturbated onto a piece of paper so i think i kind of got tricked but anyway anyway, but yeah, some of our listeners.
Starting point is 00:06:25 But yeah, go on. You were saying people do all kinds of stuff. Yeah, I just think the thing is like... It could become a video game. Yeah, I think he's just passionate about it. Right. But you're right. Like, I mean, sometimes obsessions and passions can go overboard and it could destroy people.
Starting point is 00:06:41 But I think he does it in a more healthy way because he doesn't preach that hashtag hustle you need to work all day and do all this stuff um if you really listen to what he's saying it's really there's a bigger picture to it and it's about like connecting with people being genuine creating products and businesses that are ethical and stuff like that right so it's not really it's not really this like work all day work all night don't even sleep you could sleep later mentality right i think if you love doing anything you'll do that for farming if you're passionate about farming you know what i mean like
Starting point is 00:07:15 so i think it's it's just with money there's this weird stigma around it like because there are so many you know shady scammers and all that stuff that's tied to that kind of world. Yeah. Yeah. Do – yeah, but you're right. I think about that. It's like – think about that a lot, I guess. And maybe – I don't know if I even obsess sometimes on that.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Like what is like enough – Are you into business? To be doing business. Yeah, I'm into business. That's cool. I'm into it. I'm getting more into it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:41 You know, I think what happened for me was I just started getting busy busy and so it's like okay my time is a commodity yeah yeah you know and it's really the only come it's like the only like commodity that's definitely mine yeah um you know like intrinsically you know or whatever yeah so it's like you know that bus start has from there things started like okay well i can't do this anymore i can do that. Like I can have a conversation that's a, you know, I can't hang out and just listen to somebody that's drunk talk for an hour because they're not going to, nothing's going to come of it. Right. Nothing's going to come up for me.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Nothing's going to come up for them. You know, just little things like that, but it starts to, but then it becomes more and more serious and it's like, okay, I just need to be, I need to be a little bit more efficient. But yeah, I mean, a friend of mine and I a long time ago Invested in a In a
Starting point is 00:08:28 Apartment An apartment or a condominium down in New Orleans Oh shit And so that's one thing that I got into slowly over the years It's been like 15 years now You know we each had like 10 grand Damn that's cool And we saved up and we put in and we got a place
Starting point is 00:08:40 So then over the years like you become like a You know a property manager Yeah A landlord So you have real estate You're in that world We put in and we got a place. So then over the years, you become a property manager, a landlord. So you have real estate. You're in that world. So then I started to get into it a little bit. I started then over time, was able to sell and then get two places. But then also, I've realized in that time like then i'll i'll become a landlord there
Starting point is 00:09:06 are times when i'm a landlord where i'm seeking tenants there are times where now part of my you know week i have to deal with um you know like dealing with hoa issues and all that kind of stuff so it's yeah i've definitely learned some of it you know things like that that make you want to think like okay at first i'm like well maybe i'll buy an apartment building one day yeah but do you want the responsibility that's another thing right i think that's what they don't tell you is like they don't go oh business is so cool owning businesses but like they don't tell you all the bullshit you have to go through yeah yeah and if you don't and if that's something and i think that's a thing you know i think a lot of people feel you know we see videos like
Starting point is 00:09:40 business videos online yeah and some of them make me feel it makes me feel inspired but then sometimes i can also feel like oh man i'm not doing enough you know that's true like i started too late i did this i did that um but some people is business is not for everybody yeah 100 and being like a man like that kind of stuff like dude the other night like i'm in an hoa call right i'm listening to on a part of an HOA board. And, dude, I'm sitting there for two hours listening while some guy who I think is probably an alcoholic, like just berates everyone else on the board, you know? Damn. But it's like I have to do that because I commit it.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And it's just, yes, more business gets created. So if you don't want to be a business person and you don't really like doing those sorts of things yeah then just don't feel bad about yourself if you you know see those types of videos you're like fuck i'm not a business guy yeah i mean that's that's how i that's why i like the gary v dude because he doesn't come off as like a lot of the other guys right i mean because you're in business you know yeah you know like who's a fraud and who isn't like if someone's just trying to sell you a dream yeah and they're like you want to be on this fucking yacht with a bunch of girls and shit it's yeah and then they throw one of the girls off the yacht and they're like what what did belinda do yeah you know i mean you're better off trying to be an
Starting point is 00:10:56 entertainer an artist you get that shit for real you know like and it doesn't cost that much if you think about it you can rent a yacht you can get a bunch of girls you want to kill your brother with a nice gun and then he just kills one of his brothers thankfully the guy has like nine brothers you know but it's still like but yeah some of it's just delusional yeah but then there are guys and i did notice he seemed like i just got to shake his hand and say hey we chatted for maybe six seconds and it was uh he does seem authentic though he seems authentic in his desire to like lead people um into not getting stuck in a bad habit right that's one thing i noticed i mean one thing i took away from um what he preaches
Starting point is 00:11:39 is like you know really give away the content don't try to sell everything all the time yeah and then be honest with yourself like like if if you want to make a million dollars be honest about that don't fucking go around and say like yeah i want to help the world i want to do this for charity or whatever then get in the charity right i mean there's a lot of people out there that want to get into business and they think they're saving the world or they don't want to come off as greedy right but they're not being honest with themselves ah that's interesting i was like oh that's that's totally right um that's super interesting man yeah because i think about that a lot i think about like you know if as my career starts to get bigger you know and the potential to make more money yeah and then but then also how to not get caught into greed and also how to feel like deserving of
Starting point is 00:12:28 money that you make like those are some things that i even struggle with you know it's like you know like feeling like you deserve uh because sometimes my brain won't see the hard work i put in yeah my brain will just see this moment and my brain will be like oh you don't deserve this even if i do right i know what you're talking about it's like going on vacations you can't really be on vacation because you feel like you didn't do enough and you don't deserve it right yeah yeah yeah is that do all business people go through that i don't know but um i don't know what that is man oh yeah uh nick just brought this up imposter syndrome what's that a psychological pattern in which an individual doubts their accomplishments and has a persistent internalized fear of being exposed as a fraud.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Do you fear that? Like, you kind of might come off a certain way? No, I fear, like, I fear, like, I mean, it's a constant struggle to, I mean, I feel like I'm still learning a lot about who I am. Yeah. You know, I feel like, I feel like a lot of, i try and be as authentic as i can yeah um i feel like it's also hard yeah to do sometimes like it's tough to know if your ego is running some of the even a moment or if your heart is like running the moment or um i mean being your own worst critic is a good trait to have though right because you know you you try to hold yourself accountable right and and i think more people actually need that you
Starting point is 00:13:53 know i mean especially now with social media and everybody with these big ass fucking egos like they have no clue like little tay bro dude i fucking can't stand little tay bro you know i'm saying they say you can't be mad at Lil Tay, bro. You know what I'm saying? They say you can't be mad at children, dude. Fuck that, bro. You know what's sad? I was a child. I know what it's like. I've already been in those trenches, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I did 18 years as a child. She's a little puppet for her brother. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, the brother put her up to it? That's sad, man. Yeah. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I thought she was just a crazy 17-year-old kid that looked real small and was doing that. No, she's like an eight year old child man and what what ended up happening is her brother just really uh she he was the puppeteer and he i mean i don't know if she's at fall or whatnot but she's a kid man and then i was just like this is fucking crazy when all that stuff came out because in the very beginning i was i was with you i was, this bitch is stupid. Yeah. I just didn't get it. Like, I got some of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:48 But it seemed to be too fake. Yeah. Good name, though, Lil Tay. Lil Tay. Yeah, someone leaked out her brother coaching her. No, you got to say it like this. And she's like, I don't want to. And you're like, no, just do it.
Starting point is 00:15:02 And I was like, oh, shit. That's crazy. Yeah. And then're like, no, just do it. And I was like, oh, shit. That's crazy. Yeah. And then her mom was in on it and everything. She got like, her mom is a big real estate person out in Canada. And she had her like luxury cars and houses to fake the funk. And I was like, that's fucked up. See, the world is coming to a weird ass place, man.
Starting point is 00:15:22 It's getting wild. There she is right now. Yeah, there it is. Lil Tay's brother. Do we want to hear that?. There she is right now. Yeah, there it is. Lil Tay's brother. Do we want to hear that? Yeah, let's hear that. Yeah, check it out. Again, I don't wear the same shit.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I literally wore that Gap jacket because that's the shit I be wearing to sleep, bitch. You think I'm going to be wearing Gucci jumps? You think I'm going to be wearing my Gucci jumps? She doesn't even speak like. Nah. But, bitch, since you want to say I only have a thousand dollars and I spent that all on my belts Look at this shit
Starting point is 00:15:49 Okay, and then start flexing that that and start flexing that if you like bitch this one this one to doubt this one Okay, okay You can't tell me shit. I got a hundred on my wrist Okay, wait I say, um,, Lil Tay got a hundred on her wrist You can't tell me shit Okay Is that Lil Tay? Yeah, that's Lil Tay
Starting point is 00:16:11 It looks like Winona Ryder The young Winona Ryder Oh, here she is trying to do it Yeah And she doesn't even speak like that You know, like how she portrays herself She just talks like a little girl You say I keep wearing the same jacket
Starting point is 00:16:23 Bitch, this is the shit I wear to sleep. Would you expect me to wear a Gucci bandana? Some Gucci? She sounds like every eight-year-old in most neighborhoods. That's what I feel like. You say I wear this shit every day because... You literally recorded those videos
Starting point is 00:16:41 before I went to sleep. That's why I wear this sleep. Wow. Okay, cool. That's good. Yeah, so that, I mean, that's just what, you know, like, but I feel like you could see that. You could see through that when you're watching it. You're like, there's no way this kid is like, really like has this much. Like money and.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yeah, the money. Yeah, where do they own? 700 lemonade stands like how would you ever even make that kind of money but we're also a lot older than you know the general youtube and instagram viewer right you know so if i was 13 and i saw that shit i thought i think it would be real or like wow oh that's interesting you're like i wonder if i was a kid now and i saw that what I think it could be real? And enough people must have.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah. Because there are videos of, like, you know, nephews of oil tycoons or whatever with their fucking hunting eagle and, like, driving Lambos and stuff. Oh, yeah. And eating human. Right. You're just like, what the fuck? There's a couple of British dudes eating human somewhere,
Starting point is 00:17:41 like in Sierra Leone or something. Damn. So that shit is exotic, bro. Riding elephants or something so this shit is riding elephants by candlelight yeah you know having a little bit of perrier with some human yeah um yeah it's just but i guess maybe like you were saying is that what we've come to you know like is that what's going on that is just it's all becoming a little bit to me like everything is like a WWE promo now. It's like we consume things in short clips and short – in beats almost. A hundred percent, man.
Starting point is 00:18:10 There's so much fraudulent bullshit that's going on. There's a lot of fraudulent shit out there. Hell yeah. But do you feel like people are starting to see more of the authenticity? I mean even going back to the Gary Vee, like I did take away some things. I didn't feel like he was – here's what I didn't feel like at the thing. I didn't feel like he was, here's what I didn't feel like at the thing. I didn't feel like he was trying to sell me anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Like I did buy a ticket to, to go to the thing. Right. But I didn't feel like there was no, like come and get in this line at the end and like pay for, there was none of that. Oh yeah. You bought a ticket even though you were paid to perform.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. Oh shit. But yeah, I just wanted to, you know, contribute to the vibe, you know, of it.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah. I think I did anyway. That's awesome, man. I would have never done that. Oh really? I'm trying to get oh really get him for free bro yeah i'm the worst free person that's awesome yeah um yeah so i but yeah i mean i definitely took some stuff away from it i took away from it like he said things like you know that the the mom and pop shop is not going to come back like you can't romanticize a lot of business. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:06 And we want to. And when he said that, that hit me because I romanticize a lot of business. I have this idea somewhere that lives in my head that the mom and pop shop is going to make a comeback in small town America, but the numbers just aren't there to support it yeah and he was saying like you know that the advertising now it's you know putting an ad in a paper that sort of thing it just doesn't it it you have to go to
Starting point is 00:19:35 your phone you know that everything is capable right there like the old door-to-door salesman and shaking hands like a lot of that is is gone i think it's going to be a blend of the two because i mean you know apps like yelp helped out a lot of struggling mom and pop shops you know that hole in the wall restaurant that had really good food yeah but then no one really knew about it except for the locals and then you know like the internet gets a hold of it and boom you know they can survive yeah now passerbys heading through town can look and see oh this place got people love this place yep but then it's like these are these subordinate um like technologies are created to like fluff all of that like that's the thing that gets really scary yeah it's like
Starting point is 00:20:22 how much of this is fluff? Right, right, right. Like bots leaving comments or whatever, right? Yeah. Yeah. Like Dan's Tacos. You think a dude named Dan makes good tacos, bro? I'm out. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It has to be like Hector's or something. Yeah, bro. Hector's, bro. You know? Dude, I want to see a bunch of kids in the picture. The first picture better have nine or 11 Latino kids in it. You know what I'm saying? I want to see people spraying horchata on each other. Like, I want to see a bunch of kids in the picture. The first picture better have nine or 11 Latino kids in it. You know what I'm saying? I want to see people spraying horchata on each other. Like, I want to see that party, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That's so true. Yeah, dude. I want to see somebody getting, you know, released from prison. I want to see it all. I want these tacos to have some fucking flavor. Hell yeah. I want to see that real shit, bro. Villaraigosa.
Starting point is 00:21:00 You're pretty entrepreneurial, though. A lot of people might just think you're an entertainer and a comedian but i think over time i'm starting to recognize like you have that because you're you have us we have a similar like thing in common is is we when we were kids we would always be hustling and trying to do things like you had your g pigs and hamsters that you were selling i would sell candy at school you would yeah man joe jitsu kawaii fucking little backpack full of sprees huh i used to sell pogs i used to now that seems dark into the asian underworld bro who was buying pogs just my classmates really did
Starting point is 00:21:39 you ever get into pogs that was like a pretty big thing in the 90s maybe it's a california thing i think it's more you did it nick oh yeah i did i had some pogs some slammers hell yeah and what was slammers dude slammers where i was from where these yay got a lot of gay guys would meet up not joking dude would meet up behind the rest area it was like a metal pog it was like it was like a and you slam it on top of the pog so the way you play play is like, you know, you get five pogs. I get five or whatever. We stack it up and then like we put it upside down and we slam them with the slammers and everything, anything that flips over, we get to keep.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Oh, wow. Yeah. No, we didn't play any of that, dude. We used to play this game. I mean, everybody had headlights by us. So that's like a constant game. Have you ever had headlights? No, no. Yeah. I think that's more of like a constant game. Have you ever had head lice? No, no.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah, I think that's more of like a regional thing. We had like worms. Oh, you did? Oh, dude, if somebody got worms, dude, you would take them outside and burn them. No, you never had like worms that would crawl out of your butt and stuff from playing in the sand and shit? No? Whoa, dude, we're about to go going deep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:43 No, man, tell me about this, dude. Let me tell you somebody have worms come out of their butt boss dude they're not allowed back at church no i mean i thought that was pretty common for us kids like we go play in a sandbox and fucking extremely uncommon afterwards or whatever i remember like our maybe this is a asian thing but we my my parents would remedy it by fucking pouring vinegar up my ass oh really yeah dang bro i was like i thought everyone went through this shit uh-uh i don't even know what that's called dude i think that's i mean that's freaking i had to get dewormed bro that's a rare vinaigrette you
Starting point is 00:23:19 guys are making over there right what else would they put in there anything else no it was just i just i i would just like yeah i would have vinegar that's it they would just how would they do it one of them like hold your legs open or no like my mom would be like all right you know like you know when you're a kid and they help you wipe your ass and shit you just get in that position right yeah so fuck booty in the air and then they just pour out a cap of vinegar in my bottle. Damn, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Well, this sounds like some kind of rapper stuff, dude. This sounds like something you would see on— Like an initiation for a gang or something? Yeah, this sounds like something you would see on some old, you know, some Lil Wayne shit. Nah, that was one of the ways— This sounds like something Usher or R. Kelly does to people. This seems like how R. Kelly makes salad dressing. You know what's fucked up, too?
Starting point is 00:24:03 I probably could have just went to the doctor And got like a pill or something And then dewormed myself And so they would just pour it in and that would kill them Yeah, I mean And then you just pass the worms Right? I mean I would assume I don't know man, I was like in elementary school
Starting point is 00:24:18 Probably like first or second grade or something But did you think about just sitting around And having worms just like being inside of your body? I mean you're basically a bait shop At that point yeah you know what i'm saying it freaked me out though because i remember i had an itchy ass butt and i kept telling my parents like what's going on man my fucking butthole's been itching for ages and they're like what yeah making my making me g my c over here dude grab my crotch when people say itchy but all that stuff i'm gonna grab my crotch because there's all the tingles it just makes me nervous yeah
Starting point is 00:24:51 yeah i keep my butthole pretty clean i feel like overall you know i think there was a couple years where i wasn't really caring about it yeah but as an adult i've really you know i shine up my shell shop you know how did you how did you deal with the head lice what was that like oh everybody had it i mean you would give it to your friend you fucking sneak up and give it to a girl you like so you could bring her that shampoo a couple days later well you you would flake it on them like you would give it to sneak up behind them and just be near them long enough because bro they had some rare strands where i was from oh they had african-american head lice had all types basic white dude head lice. Damn.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Bro, the African-American, they'd jump across the fucking room on your head. Damn, they'd do a layup while they're doing it. It was crazy, man. Other lice would be giving them scores. Oh, shit. Seven, nine, you know? Two of them would be jumping over each other when I'm sitting in chairs, when I'm ordering a pizza while they're in the air.
Starting point is 00:25:43 All kind of stuff. But yeah, head lice was popular where I was from. What other games, dude? They had this big dude named Wayne Wayne. He was named Wayne two times first and middle name. Because his parents couldn't decide if they wanted to name it for his first name or his middle name. And so they fucking got in a fight about it. And then they both, out of anger.
Starting point is 00:26:01 No, out of anger. Like, oh, you're not going to fucking let me name him Wayne? Then I'm going to fucking name him Wayne. And the other one's like, oh, you ain're not gonna fucking let me name him wayne then i'm gonna fucking name him wayne and the other one's like oh you ain't gonna fucking let me name him wayne then i'm naming him wayne and he was wayne wayne yeah that's hilarious wayne wayne they're both agreeing like it's already wayne yeah but they were disagree on how it's spelled or like no okay you know you've had to agree to disagree this was disagree to disagree and fucking now they got a double wing oh man they got wayne squared and ironically horrible at math dude this dude was on this dude was severely uneducated and he was in school he was
Starting point is 00:26:36 probably bro i remember him being 40 or maybe even 50 years old and probably in elementary school eighth or ninth grade and that's gonna let you stay in dude because i remember his hair started falling out in class at some point and people started getting scared because people thought he got bit by something that's why his hair was falling out but it was because of adulthood you know he'd met he'd gone on deep into adulthood anyway but the thing was yeah people got lice by us what else did people get man man for some reason when you paint those pictures of like where you went to school and all that i um i remember that adam sandler movie water boy oh yeah on the bayou and like yeah and then i picture like your schoolhouse being like just made from two by fours and just local tlc you know what I mean? Let me think.
Starting point is 00:27:25 We had a dude. They had, I remember this man used to give me a ride to school, and he would roll up the windows, and he thought that I thought I was smart. He's like, oh, you think you're smart? Well, if I'd miss the bus, he'd give me a ride to school, and he'd blow cigarette smoke all in the fucking car. With his elementary school? Yeah, our our middle this was middle school fifth grade sixth grade and then he would make me do my spelling words with smoke in the air oh my god a real
Starting point is 00:27:52 fucking boy could spell with smoke in the air you know he's like how you gonna score 100 if there's a fire you know damn and i'm like i don't fucking know you know but then i would try to spell and it was hard bro that marlboro red cigarette smoke just hot box this car and i'm sitting there trying to rattle through the word inconvenience you think this guy was jealous of you going to school i think he was jealous of something but also i think he was trying to parent me somehow and he didn't have a lot of proper skills you know i see but he figured if i could fill this car with enough smoke and that boy can still spell that's kind of creative though right and if shit gets weird he's gonna be okay dude i feel like having some a kid with worms coming
Starting point is 00:28:31 out of their butt seems like uh it almost seems like a buffet or something like uh in the sudan you know because a lot of those countries they eat worms you know they'll eat really oh yeah they'll eat slugs and worms and larvae and uh i've even been in one of those places would you do it oh i've eaten some of them you've done it yeah i've been in south africa and eaten a bunch of they get some big meal no no mealworms are the little ones i think they get some big what's that like a big ass caterpillar or something yeah it's something like that boy and that thing you gotta really gnaw on it tastes like a twix i tried a silkworm before did you yeah they eat that in korea yeah yeah but
Starting point is 00:29:06 i i mean i didn't grow up eating silkworms and stuff you could shit silk if you fucking practice some of your old hobbies dude it seemed like if you had a bunch of silkworms in your butt there you could fucking you know what i'm saying put together a sweater on the wall people are like what are you doing dude you're like oh i'm just making christmas gifts for everyone um but no let's talk more about entrepreneurism man i like this kind of i like thinking We're like, what are you doing, dude? You're like, oh, I'm just making Christmas gifts for everyone. But no, let's talk more about entrepreneurism, man. I like this kind of, I like thinking about this kind of stuff. Did you think you would be, because is it in your culture or in your nature to be like a business person?
Starting point is 00:29:39 Like, tell me from a cultural standpoint. No, actually, well, my parents, they came to the States. So they're from Japan. Right. But out out there they were so you're japanese yeah i'm japanese oh nice man hajime mustay do you speak japanese yes oh nice yeah do you that's all i know we're gonna have a conversation no no so um so the funny thing is they came to the states because they wanted to pursue a life of music oh really they want to be rappers yeah they want to be rappers no no they wanted to pursue a life of music oh really they want to be rappers yeah they want to be rappers no no they wanted to be classical musicians like my dad's an opera singer my mom plays piano and stuff like that yeah so i grew up not stereotypically asian you know did they come here with money did they come here with not much money or what was it like what were their
Starting point is 00:30:19 what was their no you see um they they grew up in rich households. Okay. But the reason why we went broke is because they were never taught how to deal with money, how to save money, how to be responsible with any of that shit. Oh, really? Yeah. And then in the 80s, when they came in, Japan's economy was real good. So most of their music students were kids of rich Japanese executives and stuff, from Sony and you know Toyota and all them yeah that was booming in America back in the 80s and 90s yeah yeah so so during that time you know man they were getting like a hundred two hundred dollars an hour for teaching piano singing all that shit right there was a really highly revered so they were Japanese teacher you were really I
Starting point is 00:31:03 mean so they were rolling in dough right and then boom a lot of the students start going back to japan they weren't doing things right so they didn't know how to maintain that and i remember the bill collectors keep calling in and like they wanted to keep up with appearances so they kept buying like nice shit and i would i remember being a kid like man how come you pretend like you're being rich like really yeah i'm like i was getting mad at them like why are we buying new cars all the time yeah because you guys can't even buy me my christmas present but you gotta look a certain way you know you're like i got fucking words bro you guys are out here flexing and i'm going to a school that's like uh like we live in a neighborhood that was like lower middle class
Starting point is 00:31:45 or whatever right and i'm like but the people that they hang out with were all do you know where palace verdes is yeah rich area like that so i'm like why you why you pretend like you're rich all the time what i didn't know is that they that's the world that they're used to they just don't understand like they when they first moved to the u.s they didn't know the concept of a ghetto they didn't know what like cheap rent means dangerous they didn't understand that they did it because it's safe as hell in japan like oh yeah japan is very safe you've been um yeah yeah i have been um somewhere but you don't got to worry about being robbed you don't have to and there's no there's no like just because something is cheap doesn't mean that it's dangerous yeah so we first moved into like um like englewood oh really yeah so
Starting point is 00:32:32 now so so because why because you don't you don't think cheap dangerous you just think oh this is a good price that's what they thought right so then oh that's interesting yeah so i was born in that area and then and then and we would walk around like my grandma would took would take me on little walks and stuff and was it mostly black or latino or what was majority black and latino yeah majority black at the time and then like some guys were like doing a prank i guess and they threw bottles of water at her and she freaked out and then our uh i guess our our family doctor was like why are you guys in that neighborhood that's a rough neighborhood and they're like what i i thought it was just like little africa yeah because they don't know anything about american history they don't know how like there's all this difference
Starting point is 00:33:16 in like class exactly a lot of poor oh yeah so a lot of the poor neighbor the poorest neighborhoods were a lot of times black especially in cities yeah yeah yeah right yeah so so they don't they didn't know that it was dangerous or whatever they didn't know any of that stuff it's just a little africa that's that's that's how they saw it they're like oh yeah we live in little africa you know and so um you know people were just telling them you gotta you gotta get out of there so then we moved to a more like a little bit better than that um it's a little city called gardena oh yeah yeah yeah it's in the south bay and that's kind of where i grew up for most of my life around like um latinos and blacks and what's it like growing up in california man i feel like growing up in
Starting point is 00:33:55 california seems like everything seems to be i don't know if it's there doesn't seem to be a strong sense of community i don't feel like in the la there doesn't seem to be a strong sense of community, I don't feel like, in the LA area. Like, where I'm from, like, your town, Yeah, it depends on where you're at. Like, means a lot. Like, your town means something, and, like, your little neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:34:14 like, everything, I don't know, it's like, people are a lot more, it seems like, connected. Yeah. I don't know, like, by core values, I don't know, like, it just seems, California, every time I see a young person here or hear somebody grow up, I'm like, I don't know, like by core values. I don't know. Like it just seems California. Every time I see a young person here or hear somebody grow up, I'm like, man, I couldn't imagine that.
Starting point is 00:34:36 I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, but it just seems so wild to me, you know? A hundred percent. I know what you're talking about because just going out of state, going to small towns, like I see it, man. But they also, you probably have what, like generations of history in that area right right so there's a lot of pride and right and if you look at la in general like there's what like two million people in the city and it's the city's constantly changing you mean in the actual city i think it's like 14 million and like is that i thought it was okay, that's even bigger. What's the population of Los Angeles, Nick?
Starting point is 00:35:08 The greater LA. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, greater. So you're talking about like the suburbs, not just downtown. Right, right, right. And Hollywood, right? Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So it's 3.9. That's still a ton of people. Yeah. Right? That's like 4 million. Yeah. Right? But if you think about the history of la holy crap 20 million in the
Starting point is 00:35:28 greater los angeles 18.68 million so also you're making a very bad asian right now because it says damn exactly 18.68 i think he might have been extrapolating to 2018 and it's probably about 20 now so i don't think you should doubt okay good good call yeah what is extrapolating nailed it man i did kind of Did you fluctuate for time? I was like damn Fucking Joe can't even see that far It's only about six feet from him I'm sorry Joe
Starting point is 00:35:53 20 million people in greater Los Angeles area And Gardena is considered greater Los Angeles area So it's a suburb of the city But I think a lot changes in LA So just I mean in my grandparents's generation like some cities didn't even exist right so um if you if you talk about like la it depends on what area too because you're around entertainment right and what i noticed is a lot of uh entertainment like west side hollywood maybe the valley those cities are
Starting point is 00:36:27 built by transplants right and i was born and raised yeah i was born and raised here so i have family that's been here since like early 1900s you know like so they have a lot of history here right but their neighborhoods change too. Oh, wow. That's so crazy. Yeah. So it's like things change here so much that, yeah, that would affect history. Like, yeah, a lot of where I'm from, a lot of the history is based on, okay, this building has been here for this long or, you know, this family has lived in this exact place for this long.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Or there's a lot more small town lore because things don't change as much. And when things don't change as much, it's going to be easier to have history because the history is more vision. You can see the history. You can see that everything is a little bit of an artifact. Yeah. It's, it's kind of like, you know, people say, oh, LA is so diverse. And it's like, nah, really?
Starting point is 00:37:21 We're just a huge collection of different segregated cities that's what i feel like too yeah i hate that sometimes when people like it's so diverse here and it's like i mean i know exactly like in my neighborhood it's like i feel you know kind of tertiary because it's mostly middle eastern right i feel secondary you know it's not like yeah i don't live i've never lived in a black neighborhood, but I know that they have them, you know? Like, I don't even see any black neighbors in my, you know, in the blocks by me. Are you in the Valley? I've never seen a black person. I live in Westwood.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I don't think I've ever seen a black person, honestly. Yeah. By UCLA, I have. But when I think about it, honestly, thinking right now, I don't think I've ever seen a black person in my neighborhood. Except for if I go over to, like, the AA meetings and stuff, then I'll see them. Yeah, because they come from different cities. Right, they come do to go to that so yeah you're right it's like we claim diversity so much out here there's this claim of diversity yeah but you don't feel like it is that way no man it's i think it's just the space we got a lot of space here right so i mean like places like new york or San Francisco, you're kind of forced because there's not that much space, right?
Starting point is 00:38:26 So it's hard to make your little different neighborhoods. Yeah. But out here, I mean, if you look at East LA, right? Well, the San Gabriel Valley. Yeah. And if you think about how many Asians there are from Monterey Park all the way down for like seven cities straight, you have a population of 60% plus Asians. That's why hopefully I usually choose the other. On Waze,
Starting point is 00:38:50 I choose to not go through that area. I'm just joking. That was kind of an old school bad joke. Waze should factor that in a little bit. But yeah, it's crazy. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Do you know do you know the second largest population of japanese people outside of japan is in brazil yep yeah it tripped me out too i was like dang that's crazy yeah it's like yeah there's just things like there's pockets of yeah you don't realize it so yeah i mean i it's so funny because when i think of los angeles culture i think mostly of latino culture i think yeah do you or no but when you think about in a general sense i guess not maybe you grew up here yeah i mean it's it's i feel like you can't have la without mexicans yeah you know that's it's just a part of it but at the same time there's just so many different faces of la yeah like hollywood's
Starting point is 00:39:43 its own thing right you know but i've been hearing and reading a lot of stuff from a lot of uh influencers talking about like oh la is full of fake people and this and that and i'm like nah man that's just your shitty circle of friends and and and everyone trying to be entertainers yeah like the most of us you know real la folks are totally different from that dude it's so man I love hearing you say this because this takes me to something that I noticed when I went and did you guys' show. And Joe is one of the creators or something of JK News. Just Kidding News. Just Kidding News, right?
Starting point is 00:40:14 And they have a huge influence. And I've run across so many people now since being on there. And people will come up and be like, ah, I saw you on JK News. That's cool. It's all the Asian kids, huh? It's definitely people that work in like, that are near computers. We'll just leave it there.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I'm like, let me check your butt for worms. Let's make sure you're a real fan. You can use some apple cider vinegar for that. Let me put a little bit of apple cider in gas, you know? Oh, Joe actually sent his cap full of apple cider vinegar for you. But no, one thing I noticed was how much more like me in joking around that you guys were than the way that I feel like I'm allowed to be by the Hollywood community. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:59 As opposed to being in your environment and what I'm just now realizing, oh, this is more of a Los Angeles community. Yeah. And that in that place, I can joke and be more like I can at home, like the same place that I'm from. Yep. I can joke the exact same way
Starting point is 00:41:13 and be myself, really, not have to just know that I'm coming from a good place and then still joke around. Yeah, 100%, man. Whereas in Hollywood and some of these types of shows that are so produced
Starting point is 00:41:28 and so outrageous, I can't do that. That was the first thing i was like holy shit like yeah there's there's asian people and latinos that are and mexican people that are joking about like uh fucking funny real shit yeah they're not all offended by everything yeah a hundred percent that's why we we created that show is because it was like a way to really give the la culture that isn't on screen yeah you know like asians and mexicans make a huge part of la but we're not represented in the media that way right so when we created the show it was like yo let me show you something that's real and let me give you guys a voice of what we represent i think a lot of people needed that. They're just like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:42:07 You know, this exists. Dude, I needed that so much. We're sitting there. We're talking about something. Yeah. And you guys are like, this guy's a fucking retard or something, you know? And it's like, yeah, we don't mean the guys actually. We're not making.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I'm paraphrasing 100%. I don't remember what we're talking about. But we say that all the time. But you guys joke around. No, yeah, we do. And people know your hearts are in a good place and that you're just joking. Yeah, because we're just trying to get to the bottom of the truth. And we're trying to get that bedroom, I mean, living room friend talk out into the open.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yes. And there's so much fake shit going around online anyway. So why hold back? Why be afraid? Like I think people want to hear it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:50 No, no, dude. I love exactly what you're saying, man. And it's so funny. I was just talking this week on the regular episode of the podcast about like trying to make sure that if and as the podcast has grown, my podcast has grown, to just check in and see what's going on with my own authenticity and not get too caught up in like, okay, trying to put out certain stuff or just making sure that we're appeasing a bigger audience, but also just trying to stay true to like, yeah, the things that I think about
Starting point is 00:43:22 and also the things that I'm afraid of. Yeah, that's true. Like, dude, dude it's like this is probably the longest conversation i've ever had with a japanese person you know well i mean that's not your fault i mean you grew up in the south and yeah you know what the funny thing is man so like um i actually there's a part of me that that kind of fantasizes in and romanticizes living in the bayou. Like there was one. No shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:49 Can you imagine me living with overalls and just. Because I love nature. They always say people want what they can't have. Yeah. Right. And I wanted to have a crawfish farm. Right. Because I love eating crawfish.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Oh, yeah. I love fishing. Yeah. And I wanted to have a crawfish farm. Right. Because I love eating crawfish. Oh, yeah. I love fishing. Yeah. And I just, I love lazy rivers. I just like sitting on an inner tube and going down a lazy river. Dude, you should go to Vietnam. Maybe at heart you're Vietnamese. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:44:15 You know what the funny thing is? So my girlfriend, Jess, she's from Texas, right? And when she got with me, she's like, man, I wanted to get with a LA Asian guy, but I ended up getting a redneck and that's not what I wanted. And I'm like, same for her. You know, I wanted this, you know, good Texas white girl, but I ended up getting a very critical Asian woman who criticizes my every step. We both is like, damn, man, we didn't get what we wanted. Yeah, but we got each other.
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Starting point is 00:47:38 visit HelloFresh.com slash Theo60 and enter promo code theo 60 that's hellofresh.com slash theo 60 and use code theo 60 for a total of 60 off it's just so cool hearing you like make me think about some of this stuff because yeah it's like yeah it's like this now i see a little bit more like man this yeah like we're not against hollywood but we we both have a similarity of feeling like fuck this doesn't even represent my sense of humor like no where can i even find my represent my sense of humor anymore you had to go make it and i had to come and fucking be like holy shit yeah my sense of humor is so afraid yeah because i'm trying to work in Hollywood that I can't.
Starting point is 00:48:29 These guys are fucking, they're really doing the jokes that I want to be telling. Just fearlessly talking, you know. And knowing you're coming from a good place, but then still able to joke around. That's how it used to be. Right. I think it's a little bit more dangerous, though, for white males right now. Right. So I think maybe in the past it was a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I mean, just three years ago. I remember watching your stand-up set 2015. Yeah. It was up on Netflix. After you came on the show, they were like, everyone was like, go watch Theo's stuff. It's good. Yeah. So I watched it, and I was like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:49:04 This is a lot edgier theo than than yeah now yeah but no one i can't even do that on jk news even we had to scale back right some of our word choices our gay jokes whatever like people are it's just a sensitive time right now man i'm and i'm having a hard time adjusting because like you said even if we're coming from a good place it it outrages a lot of people. Right. You know, we recently did this one article about a dude that got raped by this hot lady. Damn.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah. And then, but I was, it's hard not to joke. Like, every guy fantasizes. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, dude. I have been, yeah. And I got hated for it because they're like, you're not taking rape and i'm like i can't she's so fucking fine i wish i was raped
Starting point is 00:49:48 by her too but that's hilarious yeah but i just i can't joke like that anymore because it hurts a lot of people and then i had to kind of take a step back and go you know do i want to be like the old guy that goes back in my day we were able to say those jokes i think you do though you know what i mean i think you do, though. You know what I mean? I think you do want to be that guy. Like, in a way. You know?
Starting point is 00:50:10 Like, I'm not going against what you're saying here. Like, it's making me think. Like, you know. Like, I hear what you're saying. Like, oh, you're not taking rape seriously. But it's like, I would take a, yes, if somebody broke into somebody's house and fucking raped them. Yeah. I'd take that extremely seriously.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Right. Like, if, but it's so funny, I'm just listening to a book right now that's by a doctor, I think the guy's name is Michael Gardner. It's called Out of the Shadows. And it's all about sexual addiction and those sorts of behaviors. And they're talking about this exact occurrence. And he was saying in this book that if a 14-year-old or 15-year-old boy hooks up with like a 50-year-old, 40-year-old woman, a beautiful, whatever, 30, they see that as a score in their book. They may later on in life see that as like a sexual abuse or something. But a seemingly normal – can you look that up nick you
Starting point is 00:51:08 find it it's michael gardner out of the shadows yeah is that it you see it i think so i think it's called out of the shadows it's a book um but but anyway he was saying that the kids see that as a score they see that and i think to myself i'm 15 Because that's where Your frame of reference Is coming from Yeah When you were 15 Exactly Or 16 Like now as an adult I know
Starting point is 00:51:29 I feel like I don't even have to say that That's wrong Right Duh it's wrong You know kids being Taken advantage of But then
Starting point is 00:51:36 Why can't we play With the idea Of how funny it is Yeah Because that's a dream Come true For like a lot of 15 year olds
Starting point is 00:51:43 Yeah Dr. Patrick Carnes I'm sorry I had it wrong. That's it. Out of the shadows. Understanding sexual addiction. But it's not really as much about sexual. It's about sexual addiction, but it's also just about how we behave sexually and how we view things and how different patterns in our lives and stuff like that. That's some deep shit, Theo.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I didn't know you were into like reading textbooks like that. Oh, dude, that book is fascinating, bro. Nice. reading textbooks like that oh dude that book is fascinating bro nice dude it's fascinating how um like our behaviors and what we do like even in like cyber sex and like yeah how pornography affects like you know how we how it affects us and like yeah you know um and just how things become compulsive so where they're not just for fun anymore you know and you're doing something like you know like hell i won't even jerk i won't even start my car until i've jerked off you know that's true that's kind of like when you know a lot of us just can't go to sleep until we fucking beat it yeah you know that's
Starting point is 00:52:34 crazy yeah really that's true because then over time it's like you're not beat you at one time you were like i can't wait to get home to fuck this imaginary girl in my room, you know? And that was healthy. Yeah. You know? That's true. Like, oh, man, this bad little vixen's going to get it, you know? This invisible 37-year-old cafeteria worker with nice tits. Because that's who you fantasized about.
Starting point is 00:52:55 That's true. Because that's the only person you knew. The only woman I saw every day was fucking Miss Belinda, you know? And her face would just fly by with this scoop of fucking steaming tots right in front of her face dude or that sears catalog yeah and i remember one year she lost a couple pounds bro she lost probably only like nine pounds and it probably wasn't even a diet she just had the flu damn but i remember one day seeing that steaming scoop come up towards my face and being like man i'd like to honestly bust all over that lady's front You know Maybe that's why our imagination is so good We had to work with something Yeah your imagination
Starting point is 00:53:30 Had to come home and figure it out Dude I remember my mom being like Did somebody draw circles on all your pillows And I'm like those are tits Have some respect for the tits I drew But yeah we had to imagine it But now it's like yeah like you're saying it for me it got to be a habit where i had to jerk off before bed and then it was just a bad
Starting point is 00:53:49 then it's a habit that's true like my brain isn't able to have like that influence that mainly influence inside of me while it rests at night and it becomes a compulsive behavior but that's what a lot of that book was about but so so people got offended that you joked about a 14 year old or whatever hooking up with an older woman yeah i mean and it happens all the time like there was this one article where there was this hot teacher that would like do it with their students oh yeah her high school students were about 15 to 17 and i'm like thinking hmm if i was at that age that would be like a movie like a dream come true yeah that would be like a movie, like a dream come true.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Yeah. That would be like Rudy. Right. You'd be like the Japanese Rudy Ruediger. The guy who comes into and gets into the good school, and then finally for one day, the smoking hot white teacher that's only been banging the other students, the other white boys in the class, finally lets you run out there on a field. And it's like, damn, I made it.
Starting point is 00:54:44 You know? Yeah. Rudy, Rudy. That basically. And you sack her one time. Exactly. And she keeps inviting me for extra credit or whatever. I do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:55 And then you go back to working at the mill, you know, the Japanese silk mill. It's like forbidden love, you know? And you're just spraying silk out of your butt at the factory for the rest of your life it's like asian roots yeah but i was like yeah so so we could laugh about this we could joke about it right but a lot of you know i thought i thought our fans would be cool with it because they are cool with a lot of crazy shit that we say yeah i felt like it was very cool over there right now do you think there's a legion of people that are just want to not be cool with stuff? Because that seems to be a persona these days. It's like, oh, somebody who's just unhappy and doesn't like winners, doesn't like it when people are doing well.
Starting point is 00:55:36 That's true. I mean, there's that too. But when it's a majority of the comments, I can kind of tell. Oh, there you go. That's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's all in execution too i think sometimes we forget the fact that you know sometimes we have to put it out
Starting point is 00:55:51 there and say hey i think this is wrong but joke about it because i think you do that really well yeah like um when you had your bit about about about the uh the special kid yeah and i was like dude that's hilarious because man it's hard to go there yeah and it's like how do you make fun of that but then you did it in a way where where we were laughing together instead of laughing at the special kid yeah so i was like dang that's cool yeah that was my friend i mean it's tough because it's like so am i not allowed to talk about somebody that has down syndrome because they like, so then it's almost like I have to exclude them from my life.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And I think that's even worse. I agree. Because you're not humanizing them anymore. You're like making them so sacred and special that like you can't make fun of them. Right. But. Or you can't even include them without fear of making fun of them. So then it's like, oh, there's a person with Down syndrome.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I'm not even going to talk to them because if I do, someone's going to take a picture or someone's going to say something or someone's going to, you know, if I shake their hand the wrong way, I'll give them a hug or something that then people are going to blow that out of proportion just to, yeah, it makes it like, yeah, let's make them like a boot. I can go near them, but I can't interact. Yeah, yeah. I think that's what it is. But, I mean, I don't know, man. I grew up around, like, my mom's a roaster. She's a roaster-roni, man. She loves roasting people.
Starting point is 00:57:08 That's so funny, bro. Dude, she would call out. This is so crazy. So I was in Japan, right? And then so my grandma's at a retirement, like, she's at this Alzheimer home. Like, just what do you call those places? Damn right, you better stay in there. You better damn stay in there, Judy.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And one of these nurses, like he he looks like a big like sumo wrestler right and then and then so um i was babysitting my friend's kid at the time we went to go see my grandma and then he wanted to impress um um the kid and he was like hey hey remember me i'm a ninja i'm a warrior and my mom's like shut up fool you're fat as hell you're a sumo wrestler and we were dying like everyone was dying and she just went in on him and i'm like and i'm like that's that's what life should be like just roast each other have fun you know like don't take it too serious you know and he was laughing too but i don't know if it's a cultural thing like you just roast each other all day i don't know i don't know i just feel like people are really sensitive yeah i know if it's a cultural thing. Like, we just roast each other all day. I don't know. I don't know. I just feel like people are really sensitive.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah. I feel like it's, I mean, and you may have a rare mom. Like, sometimes you just get that mom that's just wilding out, you know? And she's having fun. Is that like a regular Japanese cultural thing at all? Or that's just like your mom is also a rare element? I feel like culturally it doesn't sound as harsh as it is in English. So it sounds cute and endearing.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So the words sound like playground talk. But the things that they're saying, if you said it here, it's mean. Like outside of even just Japanese culture, right? It's like talking about weight isn't a big deal. Like you'll go to family gatherings and then people, whether you're Filipino or Chinese or whatever, some aunt is going to make a comment about you being too fat or too skinny. Right. And that's just, it's just the way that they talk and joke around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:57 But out here, you know, it's kind of touchy. You don't say things like that. You don't get too personal. But over there, there's no such thing as like personal. Right. People say whatever the hell they want well it's like we started to look we started to put property you know one of the things that where we switched from being tribal to being um untribal and really started claiming possession was when we made property like property lines yeah like when a guy said okay we're not we're not a group anymore this is my property line and then another guy did that and he's like okay well then this is my property and then a guy's like okay well this is my wife like you
Starting point is 00:59:33 know things weren't communal anymore yeah you know and who's that book that uh everybody reads that was on rogan the guy tribe no what is it called? That sounds familiar, man. It was about... Sebastian Younger? Yes. Was it about marriage? That's the book, right? And so this is a lot about, and this talks about, this book by Sebastian Younger,
Starting point is 01:00:01 and it talks about when things went from being communal, where we all worked, like when people would move in a tribe, it was like sometimes you would fall in love with the woman across the tribe but that was okay and there were different kids in the tribe but at the whole tribe took care of everyone's kids i heard about that and very communal and sometimes you might have went for two years and been in love with one woman and then you switch to someone else and and she found another maid in the tribe yeah and but it was cool and it was cool it's very communal and you can almost feel that in our sis i feel like if i think about that when i think deep down in my soul, that seems like I could do that well, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Because my feelings would be hurt sometimes, but also I would have feelings of love. And no matter what feelings I was having, I would always have my tribe to take that would always, I'm included no matter what. Like that was the thing about a tribe. No matter if you were the one whose heart was being broken or you lost a child or something, you always had your group, you know, you always had your tribe. That's one of the goals that I want to have with my crew is we want to have a cul-de-sac of just all of us living together and we would help each other like in a village way where like we'll take care of each other's kids and all that stuff. Yeah. where like we'll take care of each other's kids and all that stuff yeah i think it's that same book but um i was watching this documentary about like the the idea of love in in the sense that we
Starting point is 01:01:11 know today it's just very new like to our society as human beings we didn't we didn't know it that way romantic love with just one partner for the rest of our lives is a brand new concept like um and and it might be that book or it might be something else but don't quote me on this but i i know a specific thing that i learned about it is there was one native american group that like the rule was if you have sex with a woman that's pregnant then any man that has sex with her during her pregnancy becomes the father of the child. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:01:45 So then the kid could come out with like 10 daddies. This might have been Sex at Dawn, that Chris Ryan book. It sounds like it's part of that. Or it could have been this. Oh, I see what you're saying. But it was a good thing for her because, you know, when the kid comes out, then there'll be 10 daddies. And then all the 10 daddies couldn't, teach the kid how to hunt how to you know
Starting point is 01:02:06 how to jump like a different dance would have different skills yeah yeah and the love is there for everyone yeah i mean yeah and then the responsibility was if there's a kid crying and the closest adult is is kind of responsible of picking up that kid and just like helping the kid out so there was more of a community and i think it's there's just a spread responsibility so i'm like dang that's really cool yeah i love that and i think that's one thing you get in like a neighborhood you know or you get in a small town yeah in a small town like i remember feeling you definitely a lot more sense of you know yeah there were only so many kids on our street so all the parents you know everybody kind of knew that you know only So many kids on our street So all of the parents You know Everybody kind of knew
Starting point is 01:02:45 That you know Nine or eleven kids On our street Are in a certain You know area Or something Did you grow up In a big family
Starting point is 01:02:50 Do you have a lot Of brothers and sisters I got three brothers And sisters But outside of that That was it Yeah You know both my parents
Starting point is 01:02:56 My father wasn't An only child But all of his siblings Died And then my mother Was an only child So we didn't have A big family
Starting point is 01:03:03 It's growing now with my sisters. That's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Yeah. It's almost like we're pioneers in our family. And we also, my father, my father was 70 when I was born. He was an old man, right? Damn.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And so he had a family from a first marriage. And they, I mean, one of them, like they were like extremely well off. Yeah. You know? And then we just, we were not, you know. And so it was always just crazy because they owned like things all over the city and like huge theaters and like neighborhoods. And like there was, it was just crazy that like, you know, my dad had had this whole other family. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:37 So your dad was like big man in town, but you got, you got to, you saw all the success, but you didn't get a piece of that. Right. We didn't get a piece of that. Well, he gave that away to his kids before he had us. Once he had our family, his kids disowned him from what I understood. Yeah, yeah. Were you like the secret family? A little bit, but then, I mean, he didn't, I don't think he cheated on his wife with my mom.
Starting point is 01:04:01 But I think we were like this separate family. And at that point, we never interacted with his kids. i never saw his kids from his first marriage until i was at their i was at the funeral and then i first ever saw them that's crazy do you consider them your siblings though no no there's just yeah they've never ever reached out i mean i know my family's made some my siblings made some efforts to reach out i don't think they have any interest you know damn um and the saddest the loss of the biggest loss of that is just that we don't get to share whatever elements that they know and whatever elements we know about our dad you know so it's almost like he would be more of a complete
Starting point is 01:04:35 person in our hearts if we got together to share that but for some reason um you know i don't think that seems like uh that's not an interest of theirs it's kind of like a louisiana game of thrones kind of a little bit you know it's like yeah like everybody's fucking related it's like nobody wants to share the photos yeah yeah and it's like everybody's gotta do you want to be friends do you not do you want to continue the family do you want to team up because man that's that's pretty crazy genetic war yeah it's kind of crazy when people start hiding their semen in the other room like yeah yeah yeah yeah you want to make a baby you better fucking find something you know what's a trip is um so my girlfriend's got a little brother and she always thought he was
Starting point is 01:05:21 her half brother until he took the 23andMe. And her mom's always – It turns out, what, he's Muggsy Bogues? No, it turns out he's a full brother. Oh, really? But this whole time, her dad was like, I don't believe that he's my full son. So the thing is, her mom ran away to Ohio from Texas with the two kids. Or she had her little brother there.
Starting point is 01:05:51 And then she got into a real bad place, got in with the wrong crowd, her mom. And then she lost custody. In Ohio? Yeah, she lost custody. I think she got into drugs and shit like that. Oh, that can happen in Ohio, dude. Yeah, she lost custody. I think she got into drugs and shit like that. Oh, that can happen in Ohio, dude. Yeah, yeah. So then when that happened, her dad's family, my girlfriend's dad's family, they got a hold of my girl Jess and brought her back to Texas, but not the little brother. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:06:19 So they grew up separately. They still talked and stuff like that. And then her mom kept saying yeah that's that's that's her that's his son but then no one really believed it because of how crazy she was yeah and then when he took the 23andme test it was like oh by the way you're related to these people on her dad's side and bam it was like oh shit he was my full son so then they all decided to kind of meet in texas and all that and i was there to see everything unfold and i was like this is crazy damn dude yeah that must have been a lot huh it's a lot for her man i mean like i was like isn't that
Starting point is 01:06:58 kind of cool though that you find out that he's your full brother not your half and then she's like yeah it feels like we're closer just even though we've been the same oh yeah just just to know yeah man i was like damn that's crazy i was just like family's wild yeah watching it all unfold man i was like there with the popcorn just wow what is something um do japanese people like white people or not oh yeah man i mean you know there was bad times in world war ii but i feel like and who did it in world war ii let's be honest i don't know you see you know what the weird thing is i have family on both sides yeah so my you know my uncle saw pearl harbor happen wow in in hawaii he was a little watercress farmer boy, and he saw the plains drop, and that's what made him join the American Army. Slang and cress out there.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Slang and cress, boy. Yeah, yeah. Really? That made him join the American Army? Yeah, because he was like, they don't think we're American, so I'm going to do the most American thing possible and join the Army. And that's what a lot of japanese did during that time that lived in america because i don't know if you know about the whole internment camps and stuff but a lot of japanese people on the west coast were sent away to camps because
Starting point is 01:08:15 they weren't trusted wow and then during that time were y'all untrustworthy or not no man they were super trustworthy i mean they would send world war one japanese veterans into the camps too and it's like i already fought for this country bro what the hell yeah but a lot of them were like you know what maybe we weren't american enough so they wanted to prove their love for america yeah and so they did the most american thing they could think they joined the military yep and then um wow it's actually the most decorated unit in the in u.s history it's called a 442nd unit that's amazing and they have the most purple hearts the most decorated unit in U.S. history. It's called the 442nd unit. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:08:47 And they have the most Purple Hearts, the most everything. It's like whatever we do, man, we got to get an A+. You know what I mean? And did you guys, did they have, is there a film or documentary about that? Yeah, there's a few things out there. But I think one of the reasons why there's so much like separation or what it looks like is because a lot of these things aren't taught in school. Yeah. So no one knows.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Yeah, I never knew that. Yeah, no one knows our contribution to the U.S. No one. We're always looked upon as foreigners and stuff like that, right? Yeah. So I have a lot of like, you know, family members that have been here for like three, four generations and stuff. Wow. Especially in California, man. You know, Japanese and chinese have been coming here since the 1800s oh yeah
Starting point is 01:09:29 you know and if you go even further back hawaii before even was a part of us well everybody goes to hawaii right but it's nice yeah but yeah they were they were out there for a long ass time wow and then so on my on my mom's side though we have um there was a lot of uh uh military officers on the japan end dude that's cool man well you know what's interesting is and how we get some of those ideas so i think about how i get some of those ideas growing up and not thinking of someone that is japanese or someone that looks like you and in my first thought i wouldn't know i think i probably i don't know if i would go people do people go latino as well do they say a mix with you what do they say i don't know i mean people guess if they've been around i think asians they can tell
Starting point is 01:10:13 oh yeah i mean we can't even tell each other apart oh really no no no we can't do it oh my god that's a myth y'all gotta make that announcement yeah yeah that's a myth because we think always you guys have like some insider trading there going on with it all it's it's like you know we could tell if they're from asia because they'll dress a certain way and they'll speak the language filipino is easy to guess kind of yeah i mean if i hear what they're if i hear the language i could tell what they're speaking yeah yeah yeah but sometimes a laocean will sneak in and you'll be like yeah that, that's true. The Laotians are very sly. Yeah, back in the day, I couldn't tell the difference
Starting point is 01:10:47 between a Vietnamese and a Chinese. Wow. It sounded the same to me. I could see that Vietnamese for me would look like they have a little bit darker skin. Yeah, yep, yep. Do you know? But there are some real light-skinned Vietnamese too
Starting point is 01:11:01 because they're mixed with Chinese. See, man, it's all crazy, dude. Yeah, there's a lot of that going on dude that's wild man but yeah yeah so we didn't have so we just didn't have anybody that was like that yeah we didn't have so of course and also on television you didn't see any characters like that yeah oh how was that little magic guy on that boat little fucking juggling Daniel whatever that guy's name was oh we're always like some foreigner yeah or some some exchange student yeah like a liquor store owner or something but you know i mean i don't really i can't say i blame the media because if you think about the brave asians right the ones that move into the rest of
Starting point is 01:11:41 america they are the foreigners right they're the ones like that set up a nail salon in the middle of the midwest or something right because it's oversaturated out here in la and you know communities out here that's been here for about a hundred years plus they kind of stick to their own like they don't they're not out there making a ton of noise yeah that's that's the difference so i think we're we're kind of like the quiet americans like we've been around for a long time but people aren't sure what to make of us you know right yeah no i kind of i mean i think yeah i mean i wish that i was i wish that where i was from was like more of a quiet americans i think a lot of it is i think sometimes the media just does a lot of things the news and says that these places are
Starting point is 01:12:28 being allowed in these places like this and they're really not you know it's like i think it's really interesting when you say that you know so now do you get upset if you guys like say you guys you know there's a group of someone um from japan or an asian person that goes into a smaller town in the midwest and opens up like you said uh businesses that are pretty like in new orleans there's a lot of vietnamese fishing people like in that industry there's a lot of um people in the service industry right like uh um i have some friends that are wedding planners they're like but but do you get upset if if there's a sitcom or a joke where they joke about an Asian nail shop? You guys don't get upset though, do you?
Starting point is 01:13:07 Well, I mean, there are people that might. I personally don't. I don't care. I mean, because I don't think that they represent who I am. But there's a lot of people out there that do. I see. And these are, I think majority of them is because like they might be the only Asian kid in their neighborhood. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And then their friends see that and think that that's who they are i see but i mean you're in la and then you have access to a lot of us right so you know that there's a huge range yeah but that's almost as if like let's say someone let's say you're the only white guy in japan right right and let's say somebody from russia comes and does something and then they look at you and then you're like yo we're not the same right i'm an american white guy and that's that's a russian guy yeah that's the same thing oh i see so there's oh wow that's interesting yeah yeah so it's a totally different you know from north to south i mean asia's a huge huge plot of land yeah and part of it is you're
Starting point is 01:13:59 right they just don't teach us enough about it yeah i mean the first time that i heard about the 442nd did you say it was for yeah yeah it's just you right now you know telling me that oh wow and so it's like you know it just gives me a little bit of a different idea now when i think about the military yeah because all i ever thought was you know when i was a kid is gi joe you know you see on there um you know and he's white or he was white and you know everybody in there was well they had a little bit of diversity but it was you know you don't even know what colors they were using it was very vague it was like mostly white guys and like a purple guy that was supposed to be everybody else kind of like a light kind of a mauve or something and i think that's when going back to hollywood
Starting point is 01:14:35 or just mainstream media and all that stuff i think they had a choke hold on the information for so damn long yes that we we never were able to have this conversation like a like a japanese dude from california and a white guy from louisiana you know like they controlled how our images were yeah and i grew up thinking white people from the south were automatically just racist and ignorant and all that stuff until i started traveling and meeting people and i'm like man you guys are like the nicest people on earth man way nicer than california people you know like and it changes my perspective and i think that's what the internet is doing now is like it's making this possible right and and i think i like i like what's going on now because
Starting point is 01:15:23 it's like all these possibilities where our grandparents never had the chance to do. Everybody had to do it through the news or through the mainstream media. That was the only way. That was the only way, man. Or in a small little community setting. But, I mean, traveling miles apart and meeting together, becoming friends, having fans that are like, you know, did you ever think you would have asian fans from california right ever and then i have fans that are just like 50 year old midwest moms and stuff yeah and i'm just this is crazy but this is cool because we're figuring out that we're more
Starting point is 01:15:59 alike than different yeah yeah dude as you're saying some of this stuff man yeah i'm thinking back to like suddenly when you're talking i'm feeling like being a kid and like yeah like i mean i grew up in an environment where we probably were like yeah if you don't listen to some of our conversations and stuff like we're probably probably like oh these kids are fucking racist you know yeah but a lot of stuff was just things we just didn't know yeah you know and like um and when you also when you're at like certain levels of class levels socioeconomic the only thing you can everybody's so fucking poor, the only thing you even know, you just point out people's easiest things to see. Yep. And we never had any influence.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Yeah, of course. We never had any influence outside of black and white. But hearing that when I was on your show and you guys were joking about the shit that I used to joke about and feel okay joking about it, I'm these these people are more like me than i am like me which was just crazy you changed yeah because you you're afraid to say things right but i mean that it makes sense though and it goes both ways like i have this theory right that whoever's in control of your area controls your mind so what that what i mean by that is like growing up in la having um a lot of people in that are that are controlling the education that are super left-wing liberals um the type of stuff that we grow up learning is why people are the enemy right that's and then i grew up with maybe like five
Starting point is 01:17:28 white kids in all of my schools up until i went to college and you you know in in a lot of minorities minds you automatically just think white people are gonna be racist they're not gonna include you and it's it's kind of like a bad place to start and i don't think that's the truth but that's the type of education that we're kind of drilled to believe and it already sets us up in a way where there's separation it doesn't come from a place of like oh we're all american right and i'm sure too like hearing from all of my friends that grew up in red states like just like what you said you didn't grow up hearing about all of my friends that grew up in red states like just like what you said you didn't grow up hearing about all the contributions that minorities did so then you think we're just a karate kid and if we and if it wasn't yeah you'd be like oh you karate you just so you do a karate
Starting point is 01:18:16 stance i can see why there's so many you know white guys coming out thinking like man we're doing all this stuff and we got to give out handouts we're working so hard and you guys get to do it makes sense you know i get it because i'm right in the middle and i see it all happening and i'm like oh shit we're fighting for scraps right like what's really going on yeah you know and i think it's just the programming and one of the one of the things that made me go holy shit this is really happening is when i was in texas um at my at my girlfriend's uh a family reunion i was just scrolling around looking at the news it's all red like red state conservative stuff go to arizona same thing on my phone i'm like this is crazy i never clicked this stuff when i get back in california all liberal news yeah so i'm like
Starting point is 01:19:02 man people aren't given a choice to look at two different things and come together and none of that stuff it's just you're taught one thing and if you don't believe that then you're a traitor yeah and i'm like that's fucked up man yeah it's you know what i was just talking a little while ago about yeah like some things that's missed that's been missing and i feel like it's been missing too even in my own life and childhood growing up and everything is some of the a lot of conversations have never been had i don't feel like yeah yeah you know it's like a lot of conversations have never been had it's like you know i need to hear that you know that yeah there's like there's you know that hollywood is like yeah that's a certain neighborhood in los angeles but there's still a huge predomination
Starting point is 01:19:44 of of people here Like I have a lot of Latino fans that come out To my shows and stuff and I have some Middle Eastern fans that come out too and I'm like What the fuck How the fuck are these guys Out of their minds you know But
Starting point is 01:19:58 So a lot of that stuff's just like Yeah it makes me think like wow like Yeah if we can, how do we find, how do we realize that we're not our programming, you know? Yeah, I mean, that's the hard part. Because that comes with knowing yourself, self-control. I mean, like, I always say comics sometimes make the best philosophers because they went through a lot of shit right but most people um i think i think you kind of don't understand that you have control over your thoughts control over your actions control over what you
Starting point is 01:20:37 read they're just reacting to life ah yeah you know i was an impulsive ass motherfucker so i know personally like i just did drugs whenever I wanted to. And I didn't think about the next step. You know what I mean? And I think that's how most people live their lives. So they don't know that a lot of this shit can be dealt with if they just took better care of themselves or they thought before they acted. Yeah, we've become very responsive yeah you know we become very impulsive because it's almost one of the only feelings that we have
Starting point is 01:21:09 left sometimes is reaction because we're not interacting i think as much yeah and we're not interacting you're just you don't you're not getting the full picture you're just getting this little bitty bullet but you're not seeing the whole weapon, you know? Yeah, I think a lot of shit started changing for me when I started traveling. Yeah. Seeing people face to face, meeting people instead of like letting what I was taught about, you know, certain people are boogeyman or whatever. Yeah. Then you just start being afraid of everything, you know? And if someone represents that kind of thought, then you attack them like, hey you're one of those people you're you're racist or you're whatever you don't even
Starting point is 01:21:49 have a conversation and i'm like damn that's crazy because i was like that yeah it's so funny man i was like that too you know i mean growing up like even though i had a black friends i was in a group called nfl you know which was n word for life you. I know. I was in the only fucking white kid. I definitely should not have been allowed in the group. Oh, it was like a gang, like a street gang? It was a black club. It was a black club. That's tight.
Starting point is 01:22:12 Basically, people were like, do you guys have guns? I'm like, we don't have dads and we have bikes. So what is that? It was like a crew. It was like a crew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was like, but then I had a lot of anger sometimes Towards black kids because I got jumped by black kids
Starting point is 01:22:28 A couple times And some of them have been my friends And I didn't understand it at all And at that point we also kind of went our separate ways Where most of the black kids in my town Didn't go to school after 8th grade They just disappeared They didn't go to school at all
Starting point is 01:22:44 They were welcome and allowed Just like anybody else, they were our classmates But they just disappeared you know they just they didn't go to school at all you know they were they were welcome and allowed just like anybody else they were our classmates but they just disappeared yeah you know they went off and got in a caught up in other stuff yeah yeah um so yeah i mean i had a lot of but i have to you know i realize now like i don't have anger towards like individual black people you know but i do have they're probably remnant to that you know yeah where it does make me angry sometimes. But that doesn't mean that towards a general population that I feel that way. No, no. I think the older I become, I start treating it as a case by case.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Yeah. You know, like I think – It's hard to do that when you're a kid though. No. I mean I even got into it with a neo-Nazi gang on Huntington Beach, like on the beach, got into a rumble for no reason. But then does that change my view on white people as a whole? No, but back then I hated. I was just like, well, fuck, they're all racist.
Starting point is 01:23:37 They all want to fight me. But I mean, that's like a street gang. You can't grow up thinking, thinking well i got robbed by a crip so i hate all blacks like it doesn't they don't represent the general public of that group you know it doesn't it doesn't make sense but when you're a kid all you see is that that dude did me wrong so all of them are must they must be like that and some of that's a safety precaution as a child i think as a child if you get hit by lightning yeah dude the next time you see a fucking rain feel a raindrop on your cheek you're gonna be like fuck the sky
Starting point is 01:24:10 you know i bet you there's some kind of evolutionary truth to that shit that's kind of like if a snake bites you then you're afraid of snakes right yeah well you're not you're not yeah you're afraid of at least that the amphibian area of the zoo yeah so if an asian dude like steals your shoes then you always wash your shoes around Asians or something, right? And it would be silly for you not to. Right. It would be silly for you as a young person. Right.
Starting point is 01:24:33 It would be silly for you not to. Yeah. Like, it would be abnatural, I think, for you not to. Mm-hmm. Instinctually. But then as we age, if we're able to to If you have the blessing Enough to live long enough Yeah And then you can start
Starting point is 01:24:46 To see things In a little bit different It's kind of like that You know about that Stupid ass hipster couple That went to ISIS territory Oh yeah And they ended up
Starting point is 01:24:55 Getting killed They got jacked out Because they They're on the other end Of like niceness You know what I mean Yeah Like no everyone's cool
Starting point is 01:25:02 And shit Everybody ain't cool No man And a lot of places aren't cool Like And America's Like going through a time Where also like
Starting point is 01:25:09 Diversity is like Only really been like Happening heavily Yeah Into a lot of different cities Like Since colleges started You know
Starting point is 01:25:17 Really bringing in A lot of different cultures Yeah Like a lot more students Are moving in from different countries And going to like universities You know Like international students And like So you're starting to see Like a lot more cultures Pop moving in from different countries and going to like universities, you know, like international students.
Starting point is 01:25:25 And like, so you're starting to see like a lot more cultures pop up in America, especially like in the last 20, 30 years, where they're becoming prolific and getting voices. Like you guys have at JK News, like you guys have a huge audience, 4 million or 5 million people. And it's like, and you have a voice, you know, and it's, and the crazy thing is that i realize the voice isn't that's different yeah that's i mean that's what it's all about right i think
Starting point is 01:25:51 it's all about us being a real democracy like america being able to come together and share voices of like what we really mean like are like us like real people from the community talking about how they feel and what they think not our representatives or not what the media says agreed so because i mean you know like you're you're you're in hollywood you know how much they control the script you know how much the worst that's why we're here that's why you and i are doing our own things yes and people i think they're tired of that shit that's why they're here. That's why you and I are doing our own thing. Yes. And people, I think, they're tired of that shit. That's why they're listening to people like us because that's what they want to hear. They don't want to hear that bullshit when you turn on the news and then, you know, it's fake as hell.
Starting point is 01:26:35 And it's so sensationalized. And they always focus on negative, negative shit to get people all riled up so they could click that and click this. To get people all riled up so they could click that and click this. And I think what's happening now is they're so desperate that they got to look for shit that makes people go, oh, my God, another guy died. I got to click this. I got to click that. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely gotten that way. But the blessing in that, I think, long term is that a lot of that news has jumped the shark.
Starting point is 01:27:00 You know, it's like, oh, people are like, oh, this isn't. shark you know it's like oh people are like oh this isn't it cost if it costs half a million dollars to make that show today you're like a lot of people getting paid along those lines to have an influence and have an input whereas you know um you know things can be more grassroots at our level yeah you know where it's like yeah you don't make you know nearly the money you make off of advertising on a big show but also you have the the blessing of being able to try and have a moment to be genuine. Yeah. And at least, you know, and recognize people are. I mean, yeah, man, I mean, I even feel bad about probably some of the things I've said about and to Asian people growing up, you know, sitting here with you.
Starting point is 01:27:37 It makes me think about that a little bit. But, you know, what's cool is that humans grow like we change. Yeah. Even every cell in our body every 10 years it's a whole different person yeah and and the type of people we are we it should never stick with us forever yeah like like i've done some stupid shit in the past that i mean i would never do today yeah and but that's what kind of sucks is like nowadays like people will dig up some shit that you said five years ago and then kind of, you know, make that haunt you. I fucking hate that shit.
Starting point is 01:28:11 I hate that too. Yeah, because it sucks. It's like you got to give people a chance to change. You got to give people a chance to say, I don't think like that anymore. This is what I believe now and I learned my lesson because how else are we going to grow? Yeah, that's the thing. How do we expect America to change? Exactly. We're not even willing to let an individual change yep like you're going to hold somebody else accountable for something 10 years ago it's kind of some of
Starting point is 01:28:32 the same group think it's like or some of the same thing that goes on america like i can't do anything about somebody white that was here fucking 200 years ago yeah nothing i can do about it yeah you know i mean my father's from nicaragua my mother grew up in chicago you know like the first stop on the underground railroad like the only place to get off the train you know like my family wasn't involved in all that kind of shit you know and racist stuff but it's like yeah you have to let people change you have to it's so true man and i and i have to remember it you know yeah and and then it's all it's all about not taking anything personally because it might be that you're just a representation of what they you know what i mean like like maybe some some white dude did something wrong to somebody yeah
Starting point is 01:29:15 or like and then they look at you like oh fuck this dude yeah you know or or you just don't know like that's what i that's what i came to realize they was like man it's not about me it's their image it's their reality i'm just a i'm just the character in their show yeah and it's like maybe they got swindled by an asian dude and then they're like i can't trust another asian ever again yeah you know what i mean so i i oh yeah the chinese finger trap that you put in all 10 fingers yeah they steal your wallet that old trick you're like fuck that little finger oh yeah i remember a guy pulled up in our college town one time and had five fingers you put them in they got trapped and then they stole your wallet oh shit that's crazy man pretty awesome though in hindsight like damn this is fucking great dude yeah i mean but but all i could do is be the
Starting point is 01:30:01 balance right you know and oh i love that man balance. Yeah, because if they meet you and they realize, oh, shit, you know what? I was wrong. Yeah. You know? Instead of perpetuating whatever they thought, you could kind of like freaking Jedi mind trick them. Yeah. And then be like, no, I'm cool, man.
Starting point is 01:30:18 This is cool. Yeah, it's like you get a chance every time you meet somebody to show them a different example. Yeah. You know? And I kind of think that this is something that uh minorities or specifically in my culture we knew that it was a it was a group thing like anytime any other group encounters a japanese person we're representing we have the the the whole race we have that responsibility on our shoulder that's beautiful we can't look
Starting point is 01:30:46 stupid we can't treat people wrong because they might think all of us are that way right but i don't think um i think this is a new concept for other people because the you know we're we're a collective society so we're you know we think about the group all the time before ourselves wow versus in america it's all about the individual individual thought freedom and stuff like that so it's like yo man that's that's that other white guy that's not me right like and i'm not even the same person right but there's got to be some type of connection that everyone's got to be responsible for because if it's not you they're gonna think that about another guy It might be your brother or your neighbor or something else. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Yeah, and it's like, how do we find out what that is? You know, that's tough. But I think, yeah, it's like, you know, we just keep trying to figure out. I don't know. We just stay open to change, I guess. Yeah, for sure. And be the balance, man. Yeah, because I think it's kind of, I mean, I'm personally like looking at individual situations, right?
Starting point is 01:31:44 I mean, I'm personally looking at individual situations, right? And it's kind of like, well, we have poor white kids in America that grew up in shady-ass situations, but they don't get government funding when it comes to colleges. They have to go through even more shit, and they're called privileged, right? When they're not. And then you have maybe a guy like me that kind of fucked fucked around and I get a second chance because I'm a minority. Right. And my first time going to college, I just wanted the aid so I could buy weed. Right. So I could buy a pound of weed and sell that shit.
Starting point is 01:32:15 So I'm taking advantage of the system when another guy that really worked hard at school could have went through it. I mean, fortunately, it worked out well for me because i ended up sticking with college and i graduated but individually there's all these different cases where people are getting fucked and they shouldn't be because they did their job but then i can see where you know people feel like man that's fucked up yeah it's like we're living like we're all we're all we're living like the the life that two generations ago you know i'm saying it's like we're living like the life that two generations ago – you know what I'm saying? It's like we're living based on a previous generation all the time. So it's like, yeah, it's just – I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:56 And it's hard to keep – it's hard to put good boundaries and good practices onto something are realistic boundaries and practices that are effective onto something that changes constantly and america's just changing constantly yeah yeah that's true um and you can't bring back old shit like this happened 50 years ago you're gonna do it again but i think it's just the whole resentment people holding on to people want to hold resentments that's another thing as a group we got to realize the biggest thing you can do is say let's move onward yep that's the past you know because when i look at it in a positive way man we have so much talent like we could get the best of the best of every group you got the you got the asians doing math you got
Starting point is 01:33:38 yeah you know you got you got like you got like swedish people playing uh building furniture or something you know what i mean like whatever and then you got the louisiana people making like catfish and stuff like i don't know sandwiches but yeah i see what you're saying we got and then we got the best of the best and that's what we need to like put up and yes yeah we could say look i'm we're still yeah this is fucking America, bro. And I think a lot of people still want to have American pride, though.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Yeah, I am. And I love it. And it's so weird that that's not a cool thing anymore. I know. The cool thing is to hate America. And I'm like, why?
Starting point is 01:34:16 Yeah. I'm the kind of guy that wants to clean up my house, not just move away when it gets dirty. That's the way to do it. Yeah, I mean, my father moved here, yeah,
Starting point is 01:34:24 and gave us a chance. You know, it's came from uh nicaragua yeah oh and i only say nicaragua wants certain groups of people because it's a risky word to say right now dude you know saying some neighborhoods if i'm gonna say it i roll up the windows oh shit because i don't want anybody hearing it yeah you might slip it up oh dude it's just all it takes is just a little bit of dry air in your throat. That's crazy how you're half Nicaraguan, but then you still kind of identify with white. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because this is where I grew up, and my dad was so old that he couldn't teach us a lot of Spanish and stuff like that. He taught us some stuff, and he took me one time to Central America.
Starting point is 01:35:06 But, man, no, look, dude, dude it's fascinating i appreciate you coming in tell us real quick so we can finish on this note like what kind of entrepreneurial stuff did you get into like now so right now i have a um i have a drink shop out in westwood and roland heights called sip it's matcha green tea it's really delicious go check that out um i have a few booths over at this food event called smorgasburg every sunday it's a shrimp daddy um it's it's yeah garlic butter shrimp you know what i gotta i gotta take you we should we should take we should do it i go over there shrimp up yeah i fucking love shrimp dude you guys You guys like shrimp? Oh, yeah, man. Dude, what time do Japanese people go to bed at? What?
Starting point is 01:35:48 What time? I mean, the whole nation. I don't know, man. Like, normal people? I don't know. 7.30? I feel like you guys get in bed early, bro. You think I'm that disciplined?
Starting point is 01:35:59 Nowadays, yeah, I do sleep early. Nowadays, I do. But back in the day, though, I used to sleep at like 6 a.m. Really? Yeah, and go raving all night. Nuh-uh. Yeah. Japanese people go to raves, huh?
Starting point is 01:36:10 Yeah, the whole country, bro. What kind of game do y'all play at the house if you have a board game? Like, was there like some traditional? I mean, we grew up playing. Was it just Monopoly and stuff like that? Oh, like our stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We would play, yeah, um yeah monopoly just regular board
Starting point is 01:36:25 games yeah i don't i don't remember any japanese specific games no it would just be video games oh yeah kanami remember that company kanami yeah that sounds familiar yeah yeah what about chinese checkers yeah what about that oh with the marbles yeah uh was that the chinese checkers right yeah i played that i played that yep that's awesome played chess played dominoes played everything yeah yeah and do you guys like do japanese people have sex and stuff huh lots of it really whole lot oh my god bro i can't even imagine that because i don't watch that kind of shit yo man well i don't like japanese porn but you don't why oh man it's not the same, bro. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:37:07 I mean, it's just a whole different world. I mean, you just got to be in it. It's kind of weird being in both worlds because it's like the opposite of the U.S. Yeah. Everything is just nuts. But, yeah, they embrace sex. It's not a taboo. Like, it's okay but it's not like it's like breathing like everybody has to fuck right i mean it's it's it's it's accepted to the point where they have nurses
Starting point is 01:37:32 there that'll help beat off dudes that can't beat off anymore like old guys mentally disabled or whatever like they they make their rounds every month and they're like this is a human need i'm gonna beat your ass off. Damn, that's beautiful. And then the guys are happy, and they're like, yeah. Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm going to go rake the yard now that I'm putting these binoculars down. Wow, that's crazy, dude. If they had that service in America, though, I can't even imagine.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Right. It's kind of prudish here. Yeah, America's pretty prudish, huh? Even though we think we're not. It's crazy because we are cool with violence, but we are not cool with a titty. Yeah. And that's the weirdest thing to me. Do you think sex would be more fun if you were a white person or if you were a different ethnicity?
Starting point is 01:38:16 Did you ever think about that? No. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I never thought of that at all. I think I'd be more efficient if I were Japanese having sex why i think i should get it done quicker time and shit you picture japanese people to be always on time and like definitely
Starting point is 01:38:35 you know what's funny is that stereotypes are not far from the truth but like if you go there the the way the public transportation runs it's on the dot bro you never have a late train i don't know how they do it well i think because to me japanese people seem respectful of time to the point where they're like okay that's what i'm supposed to be there then that's when i will be there like oh yeah yeah it's more of a they seem to have more of an honor system in most things that they do. Man, I used to get my ass beat if I didn't respect time. Yeah. Yeah, like more than grades.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Yeah. Wow. My mom would be like – so I remember one time I got in trouble for graffiti. So we had a court date. And then she was like, fuck, I can't find this court. This is before GPS and shit. And then so what she did was she drove to look for the court the day before. Wow.
Starting point is 01:39:26 So she entimed herself how long it would take her to get to my hearing. So she could take me the next day and be on time. That's something we'll be on time. I was like, damn, dude, that's crazy. But that's how she always did shit. Like, oh, if you have a job interview, you don't know how long it's going to take. You just go there the day before and kind of scope out the spot that's a lot of honor man i'm like wow there's a lot of respect for the court system yeah dude man i would be japanese next time dude would you
Starting point is 01:39:53 be white um yeah i think it depends maybe i know like i just say yeah yeah man like maybe louisiana white louisiana white yeah yeah yeah okay. Because a crawfish farmer is something that I want to do, man. Yeah. We should do a sketch or something. A sketch that kind of shows some similarities. Like trading places? Yeah, do some funny stuff, though. Yeah, that'd be funny.
Starting point is 01:40:14 You know what I want to try? I want to try catching catfish with my hand, man. Oh, really? Dude, that is- Well, now you're talking about Japanese porn again. That's a thing they do down there right? I know They catch the catfish
Starting point is 01:40:28 They do some things man Oh yeah they do But I think also you also again are referencing Japanese porn The way you keep moving your arm like that Do we have a couple of Yeah it's called noodling down there Noodling Did we have a couple of calls that came in for Joe?
Starting point is 01:40:41 Yeah we got a couple Alright Alright This might be a familiar voice hey this question is for joe uh ryan davis from the tinfoil hat podcast i didn't get to ask you this when you're on our show uh are you one of them superstitious type of uh koreans okay first of all uh joe isn't Korean, dude He is Chinese I'm joking Good old Ryan
Starting point is 01:41:09 That's the lion hair Ryan, right? Yeah, that's the lion hair Ryan from Tip Oil Homeboy looks like a straight Viking Doesn't he? Oh, he could fuck in the snow, undeniably Do you think that What do you think, man? Am I superstitious?
Starting point is 01:41:25 Or does that start to fade away? You know what? I think I grew up Christian So my family is not a stereotypical Japanese family Where I think a lot of Japanese people are a little bit They dabble a little bit into the As you can say dark arts
Starting point is 01:41:42 Yeah, yeah I know they're in them But it's an atheist country so they're more logical than anything because they believe in science but they do do a little bit of uh the home religion is shintoism but it's kind of like how uh catholicism might be for most people where they just kind of do the ritual stuff but they're not like devout devout but it's a part of the culture what about uh reincarnation is that a popular belief in yeah i think so because buddhism yeah yeah but for the most part though i think they kind of um they're more modernized now yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:42:16 i didn't grow up with uh too much superstition around me i mean we would hear stuff but everything else was the devil you know what i I mean? Because we were so Christian. So it was like. Oh, that's Satan, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't play with the dark arts. Oh, dude. I remember when somebody came home with a bag of Big League Chew, dude, and I fucking put so much of it in my mouth, I couldn't even fucking breathe.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Yeah. And one of the neighbors had to come over and help get it out of my mouth. And I was like, that's fucking. Oh, shit. That's Satan. You almost died? Yeah. You choked on a Big Chew?
Starting point is 01:42:43 Dude, I'm a minor leaguer bro when it comes to fucking face snacks uh can we get one more question do i sir i love big chew by the way it was good oh yeah we had a couple we had uh we had um when i got older we had a couple of alcoholics i think they were chinese or just really tan yeah and uh actually it could have been a mexican guy that had been in a fire even. So he was always squinting? Yeah, he was just real – kind of bronzed and thin. But that they would stand and eat Big League Chew by the bus stop all day.
Starting point is 01:43:18 And the bus stop was broken down. No bus ever went there. So they just used it as a bench just to chill on? I think they were waiting for about – they were literally there for probably about six years. Oh, my God. Let's check one more. What's happening, Theo? Joe?
Starting point is 01:43:32 What's up? You have like a load of weapons to carry around with you. I was just wondering, besides the guns, what is your favorite weapon? Oh, wow. Peace out. Well, that's a mega fan because he knows all the stuff that I have. Oh, that's cool. You have a lot of weapons. And that's Sam Baber sent that question.
Starting point is 01:43:54 And thank you, Sam. And he's from another country. I'm not sure where. It sounds a bit British. Yeah, it seemed like British or maybe one of the small villages. He's on break from Hogwarts and stuff. Yeah, what's your favorite weapon? Oh, man, I'd say I just recently got this walking stick.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Okay. So it looks like an old man's cane, but it's got all these spikes and ridges and stuff. And so when I walk around the neighborhood at night, I just use that because it looks pretty chill but what's in it no it's just it's just a cane but it's solid as hell and you can hook people with it you can like kind of smack them around and it just looks like a geezer's cane yeah but before that i used to walk around with a big staff like i'm freaking merlin wow dude so and then the cops wouldn't even bat an eye because it was like ah it's just some just amazing guy with a cane guy in little tokyo with the cane man i just fit the stereotype you know what i mean yeah just fitting the stereotype with a big
Starting point is 01:44:58 walking stick i mean it's huge it looks like a wizard staff yeah so i'm walking around there and and if some crackhead wants to get too close i just yeah yeah you'll serve him some crack yeah i'll serve him some just uh we're just we're just living out stereotypes uh joe jitsukawa thank you so much for being here today yo man thank you theo i love being like man this is i was really looking forward to being on the show and i'm like it's pretty awesome always talking to you man yeah same same here man i really appreciate it dude it's been neat to uh yeah like your buddy uh bart who works with you on jk news just texting with him the other day
Starting point is 01:45:35 yeah but yeah it's been neat man like because my circle of friends and my life has been like it's been diverse in the white world and in some other ethnicities especially when i was younger growing up but you know mostly like you said here in Los Angeles, even though like outside of like comedy and doing comedy, like most of my friends are kind of a little bit similar. Yeah. Similar to me. Yeah. But it's neat to feel like that there's commonalities and that could change, you know. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:46:02 A hundred percent. So we'll have to talk about stuff, more stuff in the future. Yeah, you know. Yeah, man. A hundred percent. We'll have to talk about more stuff in the future. Yeah, for sure. We'll go get some burgers and shrimps and rice and mix it all up. This dude wants shrimp so bad, huh? Jojo Takawa,
Starting point is 01:46:16 thank you so much. Peace. Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone oh but when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones but it's gonna take a little time for me to set that parking brake and let myself unwind. Shine that light on me.
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