TigerBelly - Bobby’s First LA Friend, Kevin Durand
Episode Date: July 31, 2024Bobby reconnects with his AMPM commercial co-star, Actor Kevin Durand (Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, X-Men Origins). We chat fryer Bob, getting sticky, Thunder Bay’s funniest person, guessing... Trunchbole, ComicCon, large French-Candians, and skating at Sandler’s.
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But it was before.
Maybe it's through the puss juice.
Oh God.
Sorry, sorry, I'm talking about you.
Not that your wife has that.
I swear to you, like,
you look completely Asian to me.
I swear to God.
Talk more, Kev, talk more into the mic.
Oh, okay, okay, hello.
No, I swear to God, like, ever since,
I don't know, probably in my teens,
like where I'm from, there's a lot of indigenous people.
A lot of people from the-
Here we go.
No, no, no, just from the Ojibwe-
I'm 30% native.
Are you one of those?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I swear to God.
I'm 23 and that's what they told me.
I did 23 and me thinking that I was gonna be that guy
and I'm not, I'm not, I'm just like a giant French Canadian.
That's all I know.
That's me.
I've always known you as a giant French Canadian.
That's all I have.
That's what you look like to me.
I thought that's what I was, I really did.
His mom, well he did 23 and me and found out
that he was not full Korean,
that he was in fact 10% Japanese,
which means that his mom was double that.
And I had to break the news to her in Hawaii, and remember she like cried?
She cried, yeah.
She had like the shame.
The shame.
Big shame.
Well, I know how the Koreans feel about the Japanese.
Not a lot of people know.
Yeah, I'll tell everybody, you know what I mean?
Tell them.
They did some shit, man.
It's crazy.
They did some shit, bro.
We cannot have any Japanese products around
because they get thrown.
Oh yeah, your wife's Korean.
Hell yeah.
My mother and father-in-law.
Hello.
My harabaji and halmoni.
My halmoni is like.
He's fucking Asian, man.
Dude, he's Asian.
Halmoni is not having any of that.
She's like, no.
Oh, wait a second.
Is it made in Japan?
She's like, no.
It's like. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah, wait a second. Is it made in Japan? And she's like, no. It's like.
Oh wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I feel it.
I feel it.
I'm honorary.
Yeah, yeah.
It would be really funny if there was a late reveal
that you've just been in whiteface this whole time.
Canceled, Kevin Durant.
Kevin Durant canceled.
Oh my god.
That's amazing.
The way you said Helmoni was a little too authentic.
It was almost too authentic.
Yeah, yeah, it's a little too Korean, though.
Yeah, but you know, my wife is always on top of me for this
because for some reason, I mean, I guess it's just
because I'm just an actor.
I absorb accents and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
And like, I grew up, my best friend growing up
was Filipino, which I say Pilipino.
And she always looks at me, She's like you can't do that
Like don't you can't you can't do that you're gonna insult people I was like I grew up in this household
Like with him he was in my house like we were brothers
We were listening to Francis Sam all the time. We were like rapping in
Like I say Filipina she has a real problem with that.
Can I say something, bro?
When I first met you, I got it, dude.
Because you were, dude, it was in the late 90s.
We booked an AMPM commercial, right?
He is the guy behind the counter.
Yeah.
Wait, both of you were in it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No way.
He's the only man I'm, yeah, so and then the other guy,
so it was like four guys parked their car
and we go into an AMPM and he's the guy behind the counter.
The other guy, I don't know the other two,
but there's another guy was Kevin Christie.
Oh my God.
So it was me, Kevin Christie,
that's how I met Kevin Christie too.
So he's a comic by the way, you know,
he opens for Whitney, you know what I mean,
I just saw him last week, great guy.
But, and we talked about you,
I said I ran into Kevin Durant again.
Anyway, oh, like, well, let's,
Kevin Durant is here.
Woo!
Asian actor. Asian actor.
One of the best Asian actors, Kevin Durant.
So.
I'd wear that with pride.
Yeah, but when I first saw you, and it was weird,
there was an instantaneous connection that we had.
Yeah, I thought this is gonna be like a new brother.
And it's funny because we like,
there's a lot of time in between the times
that we see each other,
but then whenever we see each other, it's like boom.
It's boom.
Yeah.
It's always at a coffee shop or something weird like that.
I saw you on Hawaii once.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you said something to me,
and I was feeling a little low at the time. Yeah.
You said something to me.
I know why.
I know you lost when you were on Lost.
Yeah.
And what's his name?
Ken Lung was there with you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you were in my room or somebody's room.
I was in somebody's room.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And why were you in each other's rooms?
You weren't on Lost.
He was an extra. I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Were you on Lost?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I'm sorry, let me say, okay.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Excuse, excuse me, right?
I don't know if you know this,
but once he's off the set of Lost, he's a civilian.
And when he's walking around outside,
I'm allowed to connect with him.
In his room?
I don't know where we were,
but you were in somebody's hotel room.
I think we were actually in some kind of club.
No, that's not, there's no way.
Bobby had a club.
I'll tell you why there's no way.
Can I tell you why there's no way?
We were dancing.
I don't, okay, don't, I'm telling you.
All right.
Just, I believe.
Like we had our shirts off.
We were like.
I know, I remember that.
I know.
So we had our shirts off, we were dancing. I do remember we were in somebody's room because you guys I remember a script a
Lost script. Yeah, so you're gonna bring your lost script to a fucking dance club. Let's be start memorizing mine
Because they give you your lines like six hours
I know what I said, but it was on somebody's table and I go a can I and it also I remember it had one of those
You know me those But it was on somebody's table and I go, hey, can I, and also I remember it had one of those, you know what I mean, it has your name on it,
but so that you don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Give it a watermark.
A watermark, it was a watermark with either you or Ken Long,
I love Ken Long though.
Oh God.
Dude, Ken Long.
You both did X-Men movies, you and Ken.
We did?
Yeah, yeah.
So, I mean, let's go through your,
see, since I've met you, it was rough for me.
I had some good years, bad years,
but for me, when I saw you, I was like,
I always saw you and went, God, Kevin's killing it.
Like, you were doing real shit.
I remember when you played the blob,
right, in the Wolverine movie.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember you did that ice hockey movie with Cameron Crowe.
Russell. Russell. Russell. My bad. Russell.
The Crowe brothers. Remember you did that movie?
I did. Yeah. And that movie was cool because Russell really liked you.
Remember you told me that? Well, I did.
I did that one before I met you
because I did that movie and I moved to Hollywood.
And then I think you told me about the AMPM commercial.
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't get arrested, saved my life.
Oh, I see, I see.
I would walk into rooms
and I still had a little bit of my accent
and my teeth were still a little chipped out
and Hollywood didn't say,
okay, we're gonna get your teeth fixed,
we're gonna try to make you look better
so we can find some way to sell you
because we think you're pretty good at what you do.
But yeah, that was pre-the-wash.
What was that movie called?
Mystery Alaska.
Mystery Alaska, check it out.
Did you find it somewhere?
Yeah, yeah, I don't know where.
You can ice skate?
Since, yeah, since I was supposed to be a hockey player.
Yeah, what's the other movie you were telling me about, Alex?
Butterfly Effect.
Butterfly Effect.
Oh man, that one, I've been getting some grief
from that one recently, actually, people going,
dude, looks like you were playing a Hispanic character.
And I was like, look.
That's what they were telling me before.
I was like, look man.
You're Asian dude.
I swear to God.
I swear to God I went to that audition with seven accidents.
I swear to God.
All right, give me an accident.
Well, like give me a line that's in the movie.
Give me a line that's in the movie.
What's in the movie?
Give me a line that's in the movie.
I don't know.
I don't even, oh my God, there was like 20. I'll make up a line. Hey homie. Don't look at me like
that. Right. So what are the seven acts into this? I'll do. I'll do them. I'll do
here. Homey, what you looking at bro? Right. What you looking at? Oh,
homie. What you looking at the blow? All right. British British.
Hello, homie.
What you looking at, bro?
There you go.
You do one.
I probably did one from the South.
Oh, whoa.
I did a guy like that.
I probably did a guy from New York.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, pretty good.
I probably did.
Do your homeland Asian.
That's you?
There he is, yeah, yeah.
That's not you.
There's no way that's you.
Bro, that's Carlos.
That's a Carlos.
Are you swore to God that's you?
Dude, when I tell people that that was me,
they're kind of in awe, and then at the same time,
they judge me.
Yeah, I can't believe it.
So it turns out you could also be Filipino because you look like one of my uncles.
Maniaca babayanco.
I love that song.
Ako ay, Filipino.
You don't even know that song.
That's a deep cut.
That's a deep cut.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
You have my respect.
Can you tell the audience what that is?
Mga Kababayan Ko.
It's My People, I Am Filipino.
Damn.
But it was like a song from like back in the day that was really popular.
Yeah.
Mga Kababayan Ko.
Mga Kababayan Ko. Mga Kababayanayan ko. Mama ka babayan ko. You know what? Forget it, let's forget it.
Wait I wanted to talk about just ice skating in general. Did you guys ever
ice skate together? Because Bobby really is um. Have you ever seen me ice skate? Oh
can I tell you my favorite ice skating Bobby story? My favorite ice skating
story is we were invited
to the Pickwick at Adam Sandler's yearly Christmas party
and he was like, there's an ice rink there
and he was like, you know what, I'm bringing my own skates
because I don't want to wear that peasant shit
that they have over there.
Because he was like, I'm a real.
They're figure skating skates.
Rarely do they have hockey skates. Right, so he was like, I'm a real. They're figure skating skates. Rarely do they have hockey skates. Right, so he was like, I'm legit.
I'm bringing my own blades.
I'm bringing my own.
I was like, oh my God.
And this is when we first kind of started dating.
And I swear to you, I've never seen someone
like attempt and then belly flop and like inadvertently.
Like, remember you fell so bad.
I wasn't good. We had to leave immediately. You were so embarrassed. No, no, no, wait, wait, wait remember? I wasn't good. You fell so bad. I wasn't good.
We had to leave immediately, you were so embarrassed.
No, no, no, wait, wait, stop, stop, stop.
I thought I'd skated good.
You started off, you held my hand
and we did a couple laps together
and then you wanted to do your own solo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you belly flopped.
What's that?
It's Bobby Lee skating for.
Oh!
Dude.
Ah!
That's me, that's me.
Wait, you're not bad.
Look at you. Yeah, there we go, there we go. Look at, look at, look at me go, dude. That's like one me. That's me. Wait, dude, you're not bad. Look at you.
Yeah, there we go.
There we go.
Look at me go, dude.
That's like one take.
He's holding.
Oh, you're actually.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you skate.
Look at me.
Look at me, dude.
I skate.
Look at you hop.
Can you hop?
Look at that.
Look at that.
Yeah.
Hey, you had some major clearance.
Yeah, yeah.
Look at me.
Oh, why'd you push her though?
I don't know.
What is this?
I don't know.
I didn't know how you would fight that's Arden Moran
Maybe this is for like the cutting edge or something. I don't know what it is, but anyway
But I remember wanting to leave right away, okay, I remember now
Let's not tell that story again
What a great party.
Anyway, I'll skate with you, Kev.
So then recently how you came here was because,
what did I run into you?
I ran into you, what did I run into you?
Because it was before-
Conor.
You sent me a message.
And I'm always so happy when I get a Bobby Lee message and
Abigail and you were saying some nice stuff and I was I was in the car coming back from doing some press
I was just like well fuck I'm not gonna text. I'm just gonna fucking call
Thank you, yes, so it was
Here we go. Okay, yeah, so it was, here we go.
Okay, so this is it.
Kevin, April 30th at 3.15.
Yeah.
Okay?
Yeah.
What was that?
Pretty, oh, mother go.
April?
Yeah, April.
Okay, I don't remember.
But he goes, yeah, dude.
Sure.
So he goes, yeah, dude, been too long, bro.
Miss you, motherfucker.
How are you? Then I go, that's, been too long bro. Miss you motherfucker. How are you?
Then I go, that's what you said.
Probably.
Yeah.
Probably.
I'll say something I wouldn't say.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I go, I'm wonderful.
I just wanted to say that Abigail looks fucking great
in Kroger as, I hope you are well.
And then you go, then you just straight up go,
you want to go to the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
premiere on Thursday?
Yeah.
I was so excited to hear from you.
I know, that was what a cool invite.
I almost went.
You're close.
Yeah, but I was weird going by myself.
Would it have been weird?
Yeah, a little bit, by myself, checking in.
What if my name was another thing?
I didn't have a seat for you either,
like you would have had to sit on me.
Are you being real?
There was no, okay, good.
But I remember you doing that.
Okay, so I want to talk about.
Everybody got quiet.
Oh my God, he invited him without a seat?
No, no, no, yeah, of course.
No, I know I don't have a seat, but I wanna say.
Cause you know what the feeling is, right?
Can I just say this really quick?
You know what the feeling is?
The feeling is, we fucking,
we started together a long time ago.
Yeah, that's what it feels like.
Like we were doing audition,
like that wasn't the only audition we had done.
I know, I know.
We kept bumping into each other.
I remember, I remember, I remember.
And so like I was like, oh shit, come to the premiere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Things are good right now, come and see what it's like,
what it's good, because it's not always gonna be good.
Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I, you know, in terms of my LA relationships,
I think yours is, you and Stone Street,
do you remember running into Eric Stone Street
in auditions or no?
I don't think so.
You know who he is?
Yeah, oh I know who he is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
But it was you, him, those are the people
that I ran into at auditions,
and then I did open mics, but it's like,
when it comes to like the beginning of my LA years,
like you were like my first memories, I think,
in terms of people I worked with.
Yeah, me too.
Yeah, and you're still doing it.
And whenever I see you in things,
usually when I see other people, I get kind of like,
fuck that guy or whatever.
I'm positive.
I love everyone.
Wait, did you ever buff him, Tim, doing standup?
Cause I know you did standup for a little bit.
That was before Bobby.
Well, you did standup before me? Yeah. I know you did stand up for a little bit. That was before Bobby. Oh. Well, you did stand up before me?
Yeah.
I met you.
I did stand up as a, actually, my mother was driving
around Thunder Bay, Ontario, where I'm from,
which is 21 hours north of Toronto.
There was an ad on the radio station saying
that there was a competition
for Thunder Bay's funniest person.
And I was 13 years old, and I told mom to take me there,
and she was like, no, you're not funny.
And I was like, just please, just take me there.
I begged her, but she took me there.
And then I said, can you just lend me $20?
I promise I'll pay you back,
because I didn't know what to talk about.
So I just went around the mall,
and I just picked up things that I thought was funny,
and then I went up on stage.
She gave me extra change,
because she didn't want to watch because she was embarrassed.
Yeah, yeah.
And then I came home with $1,000.
No, you won it?
I came home with $1,000,
and then they started sneaking me into bars and hotels in Thunder Bay,
and give me a 50 or a 100 or whatever,
and I'd open for this guy called Kevin Kennedy,
he was Dr. Funny Bone, and we would do shows.
Wow.
And that's.
Well, so now I wanna talk about,
let's talk about that as a 13 year old.
That instinct and that, I mean,
it's one of those things where it's,
people are always like, well, I'm just scared of doing it,
that's why I never did it, but I don't think I have that.
I think I just go and do it. Yeah. And it's did it. But I don't think I have that. I think I just go and do it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And it's a thing that,
I don't know if you're born with it
or if you're raised with it or something.
I don't know what that is,
but it seems like obviously you had that thing of just like,
I'm gonna do this even though it's the scariest thing,
but you don't have that fear at 13.
Why not?
I really think that even to this day,
like ignorance is my bliss all the time.
I'm like, there's certain things
that people really feel a lot about
when it comes to fear,
to take on certain characters
or to work with certain people or whatever.
I never feel any of that because I'm,
I just, for some reason, I could just jump in
and do whatever the hell needs to be done.
That's goals. I don't know why hell needs to be done. That's goals.
I don't know why.
I don't know if it's goals.
I think there's something wrong with me.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Well, there is, but yeah.
No, but you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's something to admire.
It's like I look at it and I go,
because sometimes I'm scared a lot.
She knows.
Oh, I'm scared too.
I think of 50 different ways it could go wrong
before I even start.
That was something that crept up on me for a while
and my brain went crazy with it and it started to spiral
and I ended up like hitting rock bottom
and then as I'm sitting down there
and like every like fucking second, I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna die at, and every fucking second,
I was like, oh my God, I'm going to die at any moment. Then I'd have to go to set, and between action and cut,
it was fine, but then right after that, I was screwed again.
So I got help, and ever since then, since I got help,
now that ignorance is even bigger,
I'm not scared of anything.
I'm leaning into everything in my life.
I feel like I'm a better dad, a better husband.
I'm training like I've never trained before.
I just feel clear.
I'm writing and I'm directing my first movie.
And I know there's a good chance that people say,
oh, you're going to fail.
And I'm like, I really don't care
because it's like literally I could die tomorrow
and then that's it.
So it's like, let's just jump in and see what happens.
I think that's the thing.
Let's jump in.
Yeah, the death thing.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, it's real, it's the death thing.
So real.
I always say to myself,
dude, you can die at any moment, you gotta do it.
Yeah.
Even like with, I mean, no offense, but even with girls.
Yeah.
No offense, I love you so much.
And because we dated for 10 years, you know that? For 10 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we lived, yeah, he even with girls, no offense, I love you so much, because we dated for 10 years,
you know that?
For 10 years?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he doesn't know, but yeah.
She's moved on.
And you guys are good friends?
We love each other.
I love him so much.
We're family.
But what I'm saying is that even with women,
I go, like in my early 20s I was like, oh, she's too hot.
Yeah.
But now it's like, I don't care.
And then some of the girls are like, like that.
You know what I mean?
I don't know, fuck, you know what I mean?
Yeah, like, you know what I mean?
Well, you gotta lose coochies, this ain't your matter,
you know what I mean?
But I don't see it.
Oh, whoa, that's too much.
Whoa, too much.
No, in my mind.
Oh, yay.
Yeah, yeah, I don't see how loud.
You don't see how loud?
These are thoughts.
These are thoughts.
Right, Kevin? Thoughts. Thoughts. Right, Kevin?
Thoughts.
Thoughts.
Thoughts.
Why don't you say, instead of saying or thinking there's something wrong with them, just think
that you have everything going for you.
Do you know what I mean?
That's what I do too.
Okay.
I also do a little scoochy.
No, no, no.
All right, let's cut that out.
Maybe that's not gonna play well.
No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
Tight coochie, tight coochie. Tight coochie. Tight coochie. Tight coochie. Tight coochie. All right, let's cut that out.. Mine's more independent, but. Why?
I mean, but with Jim Belushi and some, you know.
Oh, I love him.
And some people, you met with him before?
I worked with Jim, yeah.
What's he like?
I worked with Jim, he's great.
Yeah, I wanna meet him.
He's great.
I did K9PI with Jim.
What's K9PI?
What is K9PI?
It was the second K9.
Really?
I don't know that it is. When you get offered, did you audition for K9PI? It was the second K9. Really? Oh.
I don't know whether it was.
When you get offered, did you audition for K9PI?
I actually got offered K9PI.
I was actually doing a theater gig in New York
and I didn't have a scent to my name
and I was like, oh my God,
I don't know what the hell I'm gonna do.
When was this happening?
That was 2000.
What, 2000? Yeah, I was doing a? That was 2000. 2000.
Yeah, I was doing a Broadway gig.
Yeah.
And not a lot of people came.
Yeah.
And they gave us six days.
Yeah, they're at the arena.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, and yeah, I got the call that I got a job.
I couldn't believe I had a job.
I was just, thank God.
Wow, what'd you play in that?
I moved to Vancouver. I don't know. I don't know. You didn't believe I had a job. I was just, thank God. Wow. What'd you play in that? I moved to Vancouver.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You didn't know you played in it?
I don't know. I was some kind of
Yeah, something.
Idiot detective.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, I see.
Wow.
Maybe.
Yeah. And you did two of those.
I did one.
Oh.
I did one.
There, there, there.
Oh, they were like, zoom in, zoom in.
That's you?
That was me, in fact.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at you. Yeah was me, fact. Wow. Look at you.
Yeah, I think that's the closest close-up I got.
I don't think I had a whole lot to do.
I don't think I had a lot to do.
So I wanna talk about the Wolverine movie.
Was it Wolverine?
Yeah.
When you played Blob?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who in the room, do you remember seeing him as the Blob?
I remember seeing the Blob.
What's the, what is that?
You mean our relationship?
No!
Wait, you saw me naked?
I mean for real!
Oh, okay, my bad, okay, my bad.
What do you think?
Like Marvel, the Marvel blob?
Like him?
That was Durent, that was Kevin.
That was me.
Yes, I remember, I totally remember.
I knew that was you, though.
You did when you, yeah, your face.
That was Fred Dukes.
Okay, so how long did that take?
To get to that way.
No, no, that's obviously a suit, right?
No, that was real.
Yeah, how long did it take to?
Like six hours, eight hours, what is that?
It was about seven and a half hours.
You're dead on, yeah, seven and a half hours.
It was a big process.
I think that's probably why I didn't show up in Deadpool.
It took forever to put that thing on. Wow. Then when you watched it, you know it was hours. It was it was a big process I think that's probably why I didn't show up in Deadpool movie. It took forever to put that thing one Wow
Yeah, then when you watch that, you know, it was 100% Yeah. Yeah, cuz he told me about it. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, he told me yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He goes and I I remember watching it going there
He goes I thought there was gonna be a spin-off or something with this character
Cuz that's what you said too. And then I and then and then and then crickets man
Really?
I didn't get a call.
Wow.
You were so good in that.
So you get like a two in the morning call time probably.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
But I worked 14 days on that movie
and I was in Australia for four months.
So I did a lot of surfing and it was fun.
What do you mean four, so they,
I love when that happens.
I loved it too. Where they give you like you work on this date,
but then you have two weeks off, that kind of thing?
Yeah. Yeah.
And you're in Australia, so you're not.
I love that, I think that with the borderlands.
Yeah. Yeah.
You have weeks off, you go to Per Diem.
Yeah.
Just walking around town like, I do whatever I want.
And you're like, I have a job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I don't have to work.
It's the best, it's the best, it's the best.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow. It was good.. Yeah, yeah. Wow.
So what's your favorite part then so far in your journey?
I swear to God, the Kingdom and the Planet of the Apes.
It was the most fun I've ever had.
Let's talk about Kingdom and the Planet of the Apes.
Yeah, it was so fun.
So there was a lot of monkeys in it.
There were a lot of apes.
Yeah, apes on me, sorry.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
It's okay.
Do you know the difference?
Yeah.
I sat on it right today.
Orangatanga now.
So are you in a situation where they're putting orbs
on your face in a green suit and you're doing that on a stage?
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, how long did you, what is that?
How long is that?
Well, we got, we did like an ape school. that on a stage? Yeah pretty much. Yeah yeah how long did you, what is that, how long is that?
Well we got, we did like an ape school. There's ape school? Wow. We did five weeks of ape school so that we studied the anatomical differences between the the human anatomy and our particular,
our specific apes anatomy and then it informs the way that we move and that once you start figuring out how they would move like you're you're not just moving because
you think this is how an ape moves you're moving because that's these are
the reasons why they move like that. So you're basically anthropologists then? Sure.
What are the five weeks of ape school? I know so give me like I'm let's say
first day of ape school you're my instructor do I know, man? What do I need to know? Well, the first thing is that the rib cage
and the hips are about this close together,
so there's no torsion.
So that's why I'm in there.
It's kind of like that.
They don't make hands hurt.
Whoa, I didn't know that.
So that's one of the biggest things.
That's a cool one.
Another thing is there's like thumbs on the feet.
So it informs the way you walk.
They can hitchhike with their feet.
Sure.
Sure.
One pro.
Ew.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, whoa.
That's ridiculous.
What?
Whoa, that's insane.
So then, so we start moving around
and figuring out how to move,
and then once I felt comfortable in it,
then my movement coach said,
asked me a question, and he kept asking me questions.
He wanted to hear what the character sounded like,
and I didn't know yet, and then one day,
when I was really comfortable,
I started to speak like this.
Wow.
Proximus feels good.
And it all kind of came from there and then.
I want to try.
It's fun, right?
Go, go, you're Abe.
Come on, you're.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
What are you saying?
I will talk like this.
Very good.
You.
I'm gonna climb the tree.
That's very good, Bobby.
Banana, banana.
Yes, yes, you're special.
I'm not good at this.
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't.
You're special.
I'm so special even.
I have a job for you, Bobby.
What's my job, master?
Come with me, Bobby.
See outside those gates.
Go look outside those gates.
I'll go outside, I'll go look outside.
Good, good.
It's outside the gates.
Shut the gates!
Shut the gates!
I get kicked out of the clan?
Fuck yeah, wow, wow, wow, that was very good.
Very good.
So you, wow, cause wow, that's incredible, that process.
Yeah, it was.
And when you did it, were they like, wow!
You know, they, he did it!
He did it.
The first thing that you feel is you go to set
and you feel really foolish because you're doing this
with one other person.
And then everybody else is buying in.
And it sounds crazy, but when you have all of us
in the scene, you know, you kind of, it sounds weird,
but you kind of transcend another. Look, but you kind of transcend to another.
Look at him, he's out of breath.
Your puppy's breathing.
Oh, that's you.
No, that other guy was in the elevator at Comic-Con.
Yeah, that's my buddy, that's Owen.
Owen, right?
Owen Teague, he's incredible.
Yeah.
He plays Noah, the lead of the movie, so we,
we were both equally obsessed with this,
but he's so good, it's crazy.
Wow.
Is he an actor or is he like a?
He's an actor, yeah.
Yeah, well that's incredible.
Who's that older guy?
He's an eight or two?
He worked for Cirque du Soleil.
He was one of the founders of Cirque du Soleil for 25.
What, Cirque du Soleil?
Five years, yeah.
How do you say it?
Cirque du Soleil.
Oh my God. I like it. Cirque du Soleil. How do you say it? Cirque du Soleil. Oh my God.
I like it.
It's because I'm French.
It's because I'm French.
It's my first language.
Cirque du Soleil.
When I speak French, it's my first language.
That's why I love it.
He's French for me.
That's right.
That's right.
I'm sweating.
That is what, that's the way that I talk normal.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I watched the movie.
I loved it.
And then you were the one, you were the one who was the one who Yeah. You know what I mean? So I watched the movie.
DSP.
Yeah.
So I watched the movie, I loved it.
And then you were the one,
you're the one that's up by the boat.
You're the little,
I don't know, I can't figure out
what was going on in the movie.
But you were the main evil ape in the boat
where, what's his name from?
Yes. From Fargo, what's his name?
Yeah, yeah.
What's his name?
Yeah, Bill Macy.
William B. Macy, you know what I mean?
So Bill Macy is in it, and then, so you, that's,
yeah, you're very good, very scary.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, you don't know, he did that voice.
I was like, in my mind I'm like, oh, Kevin's in there.
So every ape, I was like, is that ape? Which one is Kevin? And then in my mind I'm like, and don't know, he did that voice. I was like, in my mind I'm like, oh, Kevin's in there. So every ape, I was like, is that ape?
Which one is Kevin?
And then in my mind I'm like,
and then once that character came out,
I go, I turned to Gene Hong and I go,
yeah, I think that's my friend.
And Gene goes, I don't give a shit.
Because the whole movie I was like,
my friend's coming up, right?
And my friend's just like just what's the fucking movie?
And then when I saw that's it he goes get the fuck yeah, he's like my bad But it was very good to see you there for it's coming up my friends
Well because you get excited you kind of get excited you're like you're I mean
I know I don't know which one it is it's a guessing game
Yeah, it's not like you can tell by the can you tell by the face I can
Try to find his character and see if you can tell,
if it's Kevin Durand.
When I watch the movie, I see all my friends
that I work with because they built everything
on top of our movement, idiosyncratic behavior, everything.
So I was working with them the whole time.
Like my daughter, for instance, my eight-year-old,
when she went to see it.
If you saw that, would you go, oh, there's Kevin.
No.
No, I wouldn't.
But when you see the movement and the.
Even then, dude, I'm sorry, it's hard,
but the voice, the voice, I was like,
no, that sounds like Kevin.
Really?
Is that all there is?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, cool.
Well, you did a great job on that, dad.
Amazing.
My daughter was so upset.
Why?
Well, because I ended up falling off a pretty high cliff.
Oh.
And she had been seeing me walking around the house.
You know, I mean, come and play with me.
So she knew that character, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She was like, ah!
Ah!
I like traumatized.
But she thought, wow, wow, wow.
I wouldn't have taken her.
Wow, wow.
But did they like it in general?
No. They didn't like it at all. She was so traumatized by it. It's a traumatic. Yeah, yeah. But did they like it in general? No.
They didn't like it.
She was so traumatized by it for her.
It's a traumatic.
Yeah, yeah.
To see me, you know, this is the first time
that she's seen my daddy.
It's also so seamless, like the CGI now.
It's some of it.
It's incredible.
It really is incredible.
So what are you working on right now?
Can you give us a little hint or no?
Bob, I just finished The Naked Gun.
Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right.
I just finished that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Liam Neeson plays Leslie Naked Gun. Oh, that's right, that's right, that's right. I just finished that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Liam Neeson plays Leslie Nielsen's son,
so he's Frank Draven Jr.
Oh my God, I'm so excited for this.
And Pamela Anderson is amazing at it.
Wow.
The Naked Guns were my comedic Bible when I was younger.
That's all I watched over and over and over again.
That's actually how I know OJ.
I didn't know OJ was a football player.
I just knew him from like a young kid.
I was like, oh, that's a guy from Naked Gun.
Wow.
Yeah.
You won a Heisman Trophy, but anyway.
I didn't know that.
I lived in the Philippines.
Like we didn't watch football.
I was just like, that's not true.
Murder or two.
No, that was pre-murder.
Half-wired.
Pre-murder.
Yeah, pre-murder.
Yeah, yeah.
But rest in peace.
Anyway.
Oh, that's incredible.
Yeah, that was cool. That was fun. And then now I'm, you know, I'm a hot free burger. Yeah, yeah. But rest in peace. Oh, that's incredible. Yeah, that was fun.
That was cool.
That was fun.
And then now I'm back in what we talked about before.
It's like you go on this incredible high
and then you're like, what's happening now?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna make my movie.
And so you have the script and everything?
Yeah, I've been writing for 15 years.
Wow.
It's been ready for a while.
Now it's just like.
Give me the genre.
I don't know, you know that I was a hockey player.
Did you know that I was a hockey player?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so it's a pretty heavy story.
It's about a guy who's way too old.
He shouldn't be there anymore.
He's starting to suffer from chronic traumatic
and telepathy, which is the repeated concussive injuries
to the brain, he's addicted to the pain meds,
he's buying them off market,
because he can't get enough from his doctor,
and he's just spiraling like crazy,
and he's got this daughter that he loves more than anything,
but he can only see her with a mediator,
and he hits rock bottom, and then it's up to him
as to whether he's going to try to climb out of that or not.
Wow.
Yeah.
But he used to be a hockey star?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, but now he's an old guy like me.
Wow.
And he shouldn't be there anymore.
Are you casting any Koreans that can ice skate?
Hey.
Hey, no, that's not the movie.
There's another movie.
But are you playing the guy?
Yeah.
Oh, that's great. Well, if I get the money in the next couple of years,
I'm gonna be too old.
You know what, dude?
I think it's gonna fucking happen, Dan.
Oh, thank you.
What do you think?
I love that movie idea.
Thank you, John.
So here's another, what's so funny?
Sorry, I know I pitch this every episode,
every time we have a guest that looks so different than you.
Yeah, yeah.
But I think you should also maybe consider Kevin
for the twins movie.
We had Sun Kang.
Oh yeah.
This might be amazing.
I picked Sun Kang first.
Yeah, yeah, but you think this is better.
Honestly, and he speaks Korean, and he looks,
he's eight foot nine?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, they're already doing another twins movie, I think.
They are?
Yeah, I think so.
I saw something.
With who? I'm just saying it, we don I think. They are? Yeah, I think so. It's not something. With who?
I'm just saying it,
we don't have to talk about it anymore.
I'm like.
But I also want to talk about Abigail.
Yeah.
Do you guys see it?
You saw it?
I love that movie.
I love it.
Do you see it?
No, I saw the trailer there.
Yeah.
I love that movie.
It was so fun.
We talked about outside a little bit
about the girl's work ethic.
I mean, she must have been...
First of all, that girl is 13, right?
What's her name?
She's 14.
What's her name?
14 now.
She's from Ireland.
She was Matilda.
She was Matilda.
Oh, Matilda.
And I remember I saw Matilda and I was like, where did they find this child?
I'm watching Matilda with my girls.
And then I find out that she's Abigail in the movie.
Have you re-watched the movie Matilda recently? Yeah, yeah. Okay I think that it's still Miss
Trunchbull is one of the most terrifying villains I have ever seen on television. Yeah, yeah,
absolutely. Have you seen Matilda? It's like Miss Hannigan or something? Yeah, yeah.
A little scary, like you're watching a musical.
But scarier even.
Scarier, so you have to watch,
like I'm telling everybody right now.
Google what she looks like.
Rewatch Matilda and tell me Miss Trunchbull
is not the scariest villain you've ever seen.
Did you see the new Matilda though?
No.
Oh, look at her.
The new Matilda, it's insane.
You're not even gonna know.
Like, can you pull up a picture of the new Mistress Cole
and tell me if you can figure out who it is.
Because it's someone that you know.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Is that Glenn Cl-
We know her?
I would say it's like, no.
We know her.
Yep.
Oh, I know who it is.
Who is it? Nicholas Cage. Oh, no, no, no. That's Yep. Oh, I know who it is. Who is it?
Nicholas Cage.
Oh, no, no.
That's not it.
He does everything.
It is, it's Nicholas Cage.
No, it's not.
Oh my God.
I almost said.
It's the greatest actress of all time.
What's her name?
It's not Helen Mirren.
No, no, the one that's in,
the one that's in the...
I'll give you one.
No, no. You want a hint? No, no, I don't want a hint. No, no, let one that's in the one that's in the I'll give you one. No, no, you want a hand? Yeah. No, no, I don't want to hit no
No, let me get this name Glen not Glenn Close
The good the Devils were Prada. What's her name Meryl Streep? That's not Meryl Streep. No
Pull up a different picture
Of her yes, I want to play this guessing. Oh, it was zoom in zoom her face zoom in her interface
I want to play this guessing game. Zoom in her face. Zoom in her face. I want to play this guessing game.
Zoom in her face.
You won't get it.
I was watching it and I had to look it up.
That's incredible.
Oh my god. How did she do that?
Great prosthetics.
Oh my god.
I had to look it up.
Who is it?
What age group? I don't know.
Give me hint of movie that like, can we get closer?
Sensibility.
There you go.
Oh.
Oh no, no.
What?
Emma.
Emma Watson.
Emma, what's her last name?
Emma Thompson.
Emma Thompson.
Emma Thompson.
It's Emma Thompson.
What the heck?
Oh my god.
I don't like that game.
I don't know what Emma Thompson is.
You do.
Yeah, you do.
No, I've never seen her before.
How do you not know Emma Thompson?
She's one of the best.
I don't know Emma Thompson.
She's like one of, she's a legend.
I don't like that game.
Ha ha ha.
You lost.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a dumb game.
Sorry, dude.
Sorry, dude.
I love how you keep blocking me.
Yeah, I know, I love it though.
I love it.
So, so Abba, everyone listening right now, go watch it.
It's a cool premise.
Can I tell people the premise?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's how many, it's six, you know, criminals, right?
You're a criminal?
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
You guys all kidnap a girl.
There's five of us that are hired by someone,
so but there's six with John Carmel. Okay, I got it right then, yeah. You guys all kidnap a girl. There's five of us that are hired by someone,
but there's six with John Carmel.
OK, I got it right then.
Bring this girl into a mansion.
And she's a hostage, and there's a blackmail thing going on.
That's what they say.
Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, all the doors
and things close, the windows, right?
And the little girl is really a vampire.
And it's feeding day.
And she eats you guys.
She's Dracula's daughter.
Dracula's daughter.
Oh!
But it's done by the Radio Science guys,
they did a movie called Ready or Not,
I don't know if you ever saw it.
It's just like the filmmaking's just so damn good.
It's so fun.
It's so fun, that movie.
I just don't know why it didn't do better than it did.
It did good, but like, I thought it was gonna be like,
there's gonna be an Abigail Two kind of a thing.
I think people will be watching this one for a while.
It's such a great cast.
And shout out to my buddy Angus Cloud who we lost.
He was just brilliant.
Wait, which one's Angus Cloud?
Angus on the left right there.
Angus passed.
How?
It's interesting because the strike happened
and before the strike happened,
so we had about two weeks of shooting left.
So they shot him out before he went to strike
and then we didn't have him when we came back unfortunately.
What happened? Angus is a star of Euphoria yeah oh that's right
yeah oh my god okay yeah he was a he was an incredible light man this guy
everywhere he went everybody fell in love with this guy and he was just
amazing yeah the guy in back of you the other guy the white dude I've never
seen him before he was so good at it too.
You know what, you've seen him in a lot of things.
Yeah, yeah, but tell me what I've seen him in,
because I loved him in this movie.
He has been in so many,
he was in a movie called The Guest, Dan Stevens.
That's when I first saw him, I was like,
who the hell is that guy? Is that Thompson Glady in that?
Because I haven't seen it.
What's her name again? Heather Thompson?
Emma Thompson. Emma Thompson.
Yeah, Emma Thompson. You've seen her in movies.
He did the first three seasons of Downton Abbey and then he just exploded from there.
So this year he did, he was in that Godzilla movie.
He was in a couple of other, I mean he's just killing it.
Well this is the next group.
I hope so.
And you're killing it too.
And then you're going it too. Thanks.
And then you're going to do your thing and oh yeah, I know I talked to you about Comic
Con.
So I ran into you at Comic Con.
Yeah.
Now have you guys, have you been to Comic Con?
I haven't been yet.
You been?
Of course George has been.
You've been to Comic Con?
I've never been.
Okay.
Of course.
When you go to Comic Con, do you like it?
I actually do.
This is a new thing though.
Why?
This is a new thing for me
because I used to get asked to go do conventions
and I just had an abject fear of standing in a booth
signing and taking pictures
and what if people didn't show up
and I would have all of these fears
and then I did my first two
Cons this year and I loved it so much and people just come up and say nice things
Nobody comes up and says oh you're stupid and you're bad at acting right right nice thing
Yeah, of course it cuz you're not stupid or in there very good at that. Oh, yeah, very kind
But it's it's been really I've been able to lean into that stuff, too
So it's been fun, so've been able to lean into that stuff too, so it's been fun. So I go to Comic Con, it's kind of like the con of all cons
and got to talk about apes, which as you could tell,
I really love that experience.
So, you know.
I just didn't know what, number one,
I was struck by how many people are there.
There's a lot, yeah.
And then you, I mean I said this on Bad Friends,
I'll say it again, you see different variations
of the characters you love. Yeah. You see Spinal Biff with a Spider-Man, you know what I mean, I said this on Bad Friends, I'll say it again, you see different variations of the characters you love.
You see Spinal Biff with a Spider-Man.
You know what I mean?
You see little Mexican Zelda, Abraham Zelda,
or whatever, you know what I mean?
But it's interesting, and then what?
Variants.
Variants, yeah.
And I wish you guys did come and film me.
It would have been fun.
We asked you.
I was so lonely. I wasn't running into him, but then I was by myself the whole time
Well, I know I know I just you were doing your apes thing
Bobby with all the X-Men
There you go. That's who he is
No, yes, no, yeah, yeah, so.
Ice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's who he is.
The blob, ice.
Dude, oh, sorry Sean.
He came up to me and he goes, big fan.
I go, let's take a photo.
I took a photo and then that's it.
But then in my mind I was like, who the, I know that guy.
That's Iceman from the X-Men.
Yeah.
Whoa, I look so tan there.
You do.
Yeah, I do.
What the fuck, I'm Filipino there.
Wow. That was cool. Is that the only photo you saw? Yeah, that what the fuck, I'm Filipino there. Wow.
That's cool, is that the only photo you saw? Yeah, that's the only photo I put up at the party.
Okay, anyway.
Did you go to that party?
I don't know what party that was.
The EW party.
No, I was gone already.
Oh, you were gone.
Did you go to IGN one?
Nope.
You didn't go to any of the parties?
No, I only went to the fandom party.
Oh, the fandom party, yeah.
Yeah, we went early and then, yeah,
I always run home to my wife and daughters.
You know me.
There it is, there it is.
That's the thing, you have a family
and that's what you think about.
Run to my babies, yeah.
I'm alone, so.
Oh.
You could come hang out with us, man.
That's okay, that's your family.
But you know, I'll be fine. Oh, they'd love you.
Yeah, I know. I would like to meet them. They're not my family at all.
Sandra loves you. Who's Sandra? Your wife? My wife, yeah. Sandra does? Yeah. I've never met her.
Yeah, but she's heard a lot about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got posters of you.
You do? In our room. No, you have a poster? What poster? Yeah, on the ceiling. Oh, okay.
AMPM.
AMPM.
Yeah.
I wanna see that.
Anybody out there, no, we've tried.
But anyone listening right now,
if you could find the AMPM commercial
that me and Kevin Durand did with Kevin Christie,
that would be a fucking, that would be a fucking.
How long ago is that?
That was a long time ago.
That was like 20, 25 years ago.
Yeah, what do you think, what year did it go?
It was before Matt TV.
So it was 1998?
Yeah.
97, 98, yeah, that's fair.
Yeah, yeah.
And I had just moved there.
So that was about right, yeah.
And it was when there was no internet.
No.
No internet.
No.
And it was like,
Thompson guides.
You'd have to drive around.
That's right, Thompson guides.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then if you got an audition,
you'd have to go to the agency at two in the morning,
go to an alleyway,
and then there's a file cabinet out there outside.
You go into L and then you find your audition.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you know that?
Oh, whoa.
I can email you.
But then there was a line always
because there's like a bunch of actors in there, right?
So you're just kind of waiting in line, like,
and then a guy's like reading it
while he's still in front of the cabinet.
It's like, dude, just grab it and, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
I'm like.
Yeah, I mean, don't make choices now.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do it in your room, you know what I mean?
Right, and then you would grab it,
and then there was a time where they would have to,
if you had a table read,
they would have to drive to your house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're so mad to people, we had like 12 actors.
Some guy had to drive at one in the morning
and drop off fucking scripts.
Yeah, yeah.
No fucking emails.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that was a job.
Like that was.
That was a job, yeah, yeah.
And then like, yeah, there was,
but then you could, like there were couriers too.
I know people don't want to listen to showbiz bullshit.
You know what I mean?
I know you guys think.
It's always so interesting to us.
It's interesting to us, but then people go,
we don't want to listen to this fucking showbiz bullshit.
Right?
And when it's, last thing I want to talk about
is your family.
So I'm going to ask you, are you still in love?
I am ridiculously in love.
I can tell.
It's kind of ridiculous.
And she knows it's ridiculous.
We both know it's ridiculous.
But I'm insane.
The first time I saw her,
I knew that I had to change myself.
I had to try to figure out how I could become a person that would be good for her because I was not the right guy.
And it took me two years, it took me two years,
and I was writing to her on Myspace.
Yeah, yeah, and I got back from, I went to Scotland
to try to figure out how to sound like a Scottish person for Robin Hood,
and I was there for six weeks.
Which Robin Hood, the one with the consterner?
No, Russell Crowe.
Oh, Russell Crowe? For Ridley Scott.
Oh, Ridley Scott, what about you?
I play a great big character from Scotland.
Yeah, yeah, everything.
I played little John, and I remember I got back,
and I finally was like, I think I'm there.
And I was like, would you like to go have coffee
with me sometime?
And she replied with exclamation marks
and she came out and she said, okay, I'm five minutes away.
And I was walking to the parking lot
and I caught a glimpse of myself
and I had this crazy hair and beard
and when she had seen me, I was like like all shaven so I ran back to my apartment
I shaved everything
out to the parking lot and
Yeah, now we've been together. Yeah, that was like 18 years ago. Oh, we've got married 14
in October
Congratulations, I love that you said you were aware that you weren't the person she deserved,
so you took two years to sort of get there
and become that person.
A lot of people don't have necessarily
that sort of like self-awareness.
I still wasn't there.
I don't have self-awareness.
No, you do.
No, I don't.
You just don't want to budge. I don't want to budge. Yeah. You don't want self-awareness. No, you do. No, I don't. I couldn't change. You just don't wanna budge.
I don't wanna budge.
Yeah.
Oh God.
You don't wanna budge.
I'm five years old.
I didn't change.
I didn't change.
And my hat's off to you, you know?
You're a changer, dude.
I honestly, it was,
I didn't even know I wanted to get married and have kids.
I had a dream when I was 13 about her, which is weird.
What, what, what, what, what do we need?
Yeah, I actually had a dream about.
Is it you when you were 13 or no?
No, no, no.
I'm the same age as those kids, that's what's so funny.
Honestly, how tall are you there?
I don't know, that was grade four.
That was grade four. Oh my God.
I was probably about five, 10, five, 10 maybe?
Five, maybe five, nine.
Did they think you had some sort of disorder or something?
Kind of, I kind of, I kind of, like I didn't know,
I mean by the time I was like 13, 14,
I was my height now, which is six six.
Wow.
Which is kind of crazy,
like they don't necessarily talk about how hard it is
to be the tallest in your group,
because you are the same age,
because my sister is six feet tall,
but when she was 12, she was already five 10.
So she towered over everyone,
but she got teased relentlessly.
Oh, yeah, crazy.
Oh, they did?
Oh, absolutely. What'd they call you?
Well, I was also one of the,
I was a French kid,
there was a lot of French kids where I was from.
And so there were a lot of reasons for me
to get my elbows and fists keen.
I had to start fighting my battles pretty young.
I remember I kept getting bullied
and my dad just straight up just told me what,
you know, probably we've heard this a million times,
but he was like, you hit them right between the eyes.
And I was like, really?
And then I did and then they stopped messing with me.
But I had to do it a bunch of times.
Really?
Yeah.
The person commented just tree.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tree?
That was my-
What's up tree?
Look at that French tree dog.
That was my character in Mystery Alaska, Tree.
Oh.
And since then, it's the name of my company's.
Oh, okay, context is everything.
I thought she was just like roasting you.
Yeah, you were roasting him by reading that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In your face. I was like, chill out. In your fucking face. A like roasting you. Yeah, you were roasting him by reading that. In your face, in your fucking face.
I was like, chill out, Hollywood song girl.
So I'm gonna ask you guys a question.
So last night, a girl told me, she goes,
and it really rattled me.
She goes, you know how you take a piece of scotch tape
and you put it on paper and then you peel it, right?
That scotch tape doesn't get as sticky
the more you do it, right? And scotch tape doesn't get as sticky the more you do it, right?
And she goes, you're like that scotch tape
because you've been with so many girls
since you were, you know what I mean, come to LA, right?
That there's no longer a stick,
so it's like you don't, you're never gonna find,
you're never gonna meet somebody
and fall in love in that way because,
you know what I mean, each breakup now isn't as hurtful,
and each encounter now isn't as like dreamy, right?
And it fucked me, I couldn't sleep last night,
I thought she could be right.
Yeah.
Do you want that?
I do, I wanna be able to meet somebody
and be all dreamy about it,
but I've thought to myself,
why haven't I done that in the last 20, go ahead.
No, sorry, you're saying you're no longer adhesive.
Yeah.
I have a counter to that.
I think that if you're looking for dreamy,
sort of this like unrealistic in loveness,
especially at our age, like we've been through enough life
and experience and relationship,
you're setting yourself up for never finding it.
Because I think that it's never gonna feel
like our high school first crush necessarily.
It could feel intense.
And I think because we both come from traumatic households,
healthy things don't feel dreamy, chaotic, horrible.
I attest to that.
I absolutely, in my relationship.
What's attest mean? I concur. You agree? I agree. He's like what is concur?
A test sounds like okay. My wife came from a very solid place which I had a
great childhood but it probably wouldn't have been considered regular. And she taught me
what basically what real love is, and it's not like, it isn't that crazy thing. It's something
that you work on too. But you have to be willing to work on it. So I, you know,
my meditations every day, like I think about it, I think, how do I get better every day?
How do I get better as a dad?
How do I get better as a husband?
How do I get better as an actor?
How do I get better as a human?
How do I live a happy, long, healthy life?
How do I make all these things happen in my life
that I want that are gonna draw goodness
into my life, into their lives?
And I work on that every single day.
I think you're right because I think that
we've conflated like.
That too much?
Way too much, man.
I don't know, man.
You can do it.
I mean, it's really cool that you're doing that.
It seems hard.
Come sit with me.
I'll hang out with you.
Come sit with me.
Okay.
And seriously.
All right, yeah.
No, I'm being real.
I think I need a rework,work, a wiring re-work.
You're also surrounded by, I hate to say this
because I think that comics are very great
in their own way, but it's like a band of,
I think a lot of them is like a band of misfits, right?
And so I think that you are almost,
you feel like, okay, well, it's fine to live this way forever.
But I don't necessarily think that,
like, Dr. Drew always says this to me,
because he knows I come from a very difficult
history and childhood.
He's like, for you, Kaleila,
you're not looking for lightning bolts.
What's good for you is safe harbor.
Like safety, consistent, grounding kind of love.
But I've always chased the lightning bolts
and the passion and the chaos
and someone who's like eclectic and insane.
And now I've come to realize like,
oh, my nervous system has been fried.
It fried it.
Yeah. I fried it.
Yeah.
I fried the fuck of your system.
I'm a fryer, dude.
I don't fry the fuck out, man.
Sizzle, sizzle.
Sizzle, sizzle, dude.
You fucking fart.
And I don't regret being fried.
I definitely found so much value in being like,
because it's so inspiring to be around someone like that.
The reason that I knew that I had to get myself ready
for her was because I had been fried.
And like I was in relationships
that were almost more like drug addiction.
Yeah, exactly.
And that was fun.
But then I also knew, oh, I'm going to die.
By the time I feel like I really thought,
like my ex-girlfriend was like this,
we had this frenetic kind of thing,
and we were good friends,
but I knew that we couldn't be together.
And when I stepped away and opened up
and started to work on myself,
then I was able to try to become what is better for me.
Because I'm a really happy guy.
I love that. Yeah, I love it too.
You hate me right now?
No, I wanna come, no, I know, no,
maybe you can help me rework my system.
Find your adhesives again.
I gotta get my sticks, shit sticky again.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, you know, I'm still, I still like the danger.
He likes danger.
I feel, I get it.
I love it, it's so fun. Yeah. I mean and you know when you see
new situations arise. Yeah. It's fun but um you know the but the other day I met a girl
at a dance situation, I was dancing. Yeah. I think that for you specifically, like, you know, we're still very close and he tells me, you know, who he's seeing and whatnot
and his choices are obviously like gorgeous,
probably like beautiful women, but like dangerous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, he, they're-
I feel that, I was there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dangerous.
And it's like, he just is so, maybe like,
maybe you're self-loathing or masochistic in some way.
Yeah, both ways, both ways, baby, what's up?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Hollywood, what's up?
Killing it, dude, I love it.
Yeah, yeah.
We talk about too much real, you know what I mean?
But what's this?
Too much real?
I'm just finding so much, how talented this human being is.
That's you?
I feel like I've only seen black guys.
15 years old, they're right there.
Yep.
Yep.
15.
Oh my God!
It's the tree.
The tree is real.
The tree is real.
So how long, so you played basketball too?
Yeah.
Yeah, I played ball.
You played hockey?
Yep. Ball, basketball? Yep. What else one more thing?
I also likes to rap in French. Oh, let me see. Let me see the rapping. Oh my god
That was when I was 17, that was the first show I ever got
That was the first show I ever got. Oh.
Oh my God.
Is that crazy?
That's crazy.
It's over now, sweetie.
Can you wipe that down?
I just spilled water, yeah.
Well, you can do everything.
Wow.
How old are you now?
I'm 50.
I'm 52.
Wow.
Same age.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
I talk to kids, young people, and I go, let me tell you something.
People go, I'm turning 30, right?
And I want to tell them, I go,
bro, my life started at 40.
Yeah.
Do you feel that?
Oh, God.
It's been my, the 40s and 50s have been great too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The 50s have been like, I'm bawling.
Some really bad things have happened. Some really, like deaths and you know what I mean? And you were really scared of your 50s have been like, I'm balling. Some really bad things have happened.
Some like deaths and you know what I mean?
Canceled.
And you were really scared of your 50s, remember?
You like went through a deep depression.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm like, oh no, my 50s have been wild.
It's been some really bad things.
You guys know, but like, but some really great things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It kind of depends on what kind of, you know,
like you have people come to Hollywood
and then their years are their 20s and 30s
because they look a certain way.
And then, you know, guys like, I'll say me specifically,
like that have been hit with a shovel a couple times,
it's like, it takes longer to kind of grow
into the characters, I guess, for me.
So it's just starting to get better now.
Like it's, yeah.
Your face is so good.
Look at his face.
He's got the face.
It's like Christopher Walken.
You see a little bit of him in your face, right?
I love it.
There's other things going on.
Are we getting a lot of Elon Musk?
Maybe a little bit.
A Walken Musk.
When you type in your name on images, Elon Musk comes up.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
No, really?
Yeah, right here.
There's all these articles that I'm supposed to play.
Oh, and you do look Chinese there with the blonde
right there, the third one.
Anyway, the second one.
Yeah, you look kind of Chinese there.
So Asian.
Yeah, yeah.
Wait, the one with the bottom left right there.
Right there, too.
Totally Asian.
Yeah. We're just trying to claim you. No, right there. Right there too. Totally Asian.
We're just trying to claim you.
No, I know.
We wanna claim you.
Yeah.
But look at the suit though.
Oh my God.
Handsome.
My wife, you know, she claimed me a long time.
I'm honorary Korean.
Is that Ryan Reynolds?
Your honorary.
Is that Ryan Reynolds?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's when we did the captive.
You guys did the captive too.
What's he like?
He's great.
We've done three movies together now.
Wow.
Yeah, he's an amazing guy.
He's such a sharp wit.
He's so, dude, as an actor, I look at him,
I go, yeah, that's the funniest dude.
Right, you can just tell, like as a comic, I'm like, no, that guy is legit. Yeah. So if you see actors, I go, yeah, that's the funniest dude. Right? You can just tell, like as a comic,
I'm like, no, that guy is legit.
So if you see actors, you go, no, that dude is fucking funny.
You know, Brad Pitt in the movie,
Burn Before Reading.
Burn Before Reading.
Burn After Reading.
Burn After Reading.
Burn After.
Is so funny in that.
So whenever I see like a good looking actor dude,
kill it like that, I go, dude, that's props.
Anyway, Kevin, this was a great, do you have fun?
Oh, dude, I'm just looking for an excuse
to hang out with you.
You gotta keep in touch.
I just love hanging out with you, bro.
I text him.
I love hanging out with you.
I love hanging out with you, we text.
Meditate with him, please.
Shut up, dude, about meditating with me.
I'm a friar, dude, friar is a fucking, yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna fry your life out.
I'm gonna do some breath work with you
and I know that sounds crazy.
Oh my God.
Wim Hof, let's go.
That's what I rock, Wim Hof, cold exposure.
Oh, you do cold plunge?
No, no.
I already do cold plunge.
Bobby, I think that'd be really good for you.
You know what my wish is for you this year?
I want you to visualize being a gecko
and find your sticky again.
Yeah, I'm gonna find my sticky again.
Sticky sticky.
So what you're saying too,
theoretically that you can re-stick it, I don't think you're saying.
I think so.
I think it's been used too much.
I think if you take away the porn, you take away the over-stimulation,
you take away all of your dating apps.
Get fit.
And everything that just always gives you that dopamine hit and you start
Clear focus on the on the right things
Yeah, I'm telling you man
Gecko, okay
Kevin's gonna make you sticky. I know I stick me out
That was that was so you want to plug anything or any Instagram things or anything Oh
care about that or no?
The Kevin Durant on Instagram.
Follow him on Instagram.
It was actually just recent that I actually even really started to focus on it because
I started doing interviews in French for apes and then all of a sudden these French people
found me.
So all of a sudden it made me feel like oh wow so people do yeah yeah
let's get this thing up to 300,000 in the next couple of weeks huh oh yeah yeah
that's what we're gonna do oh yeah yeah yeah
and give Kevin Dren a round of applause. Thank you for having me, man. So good to be here. Thank you.
Thank you guys.
Thank you.