TigerBelly - Ep 300: David Choe, Steven Yeun, & The Lord of the Bobby Lee Rings
Episode Date: June 30, 2021Bobby is thriving. David takes a bow. Steven corrects our pronunciation of Yeun. We talk Korean warlocks, David's Hawaii stand-up set that Bobby cut short, our DVDASA origin story, David's 20... other TigerBelly appearances, Steven's surprise Postmates order, and why we're not better friends. Please support our sponsors.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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You don't use a mic now in your world. You don't want to use a mic. Oh
Why so aggressive I
Know I'm just asking I'm not I love you. I just oh don't come on. Don't be like that
I don't use I didn't even sit down
Yeah, she's so sweet I love that dog
Just went on a walk. Can I just like take it in take it in man. So cool Elmer's glue. Oh my god
Own merch look at this merch
See if I can recognize the artist that one's so cute the surf club one
That mask is scary. Oh, that's amazing. Wow
That's kind of gross that one
You and you know, it's not it's a little like just look at it every day
To look at it every day must you'll get used to it and then all of a sudden it'll please you
I have like amazing paintings that are just there. I can't look at them every day. Oh
You just your home
You live here. This is what do you suggest we put up Dave? Just stuff that is like
Not Bobby porn, I mean are you guys getting trouble for putting up old boy like you need like you never thought about that
Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. It's been there forever
We're promoting the movie
Whatever it's your guys place you put up whatever the fuck you want
I know but I was just like because you're you're like our teeth your Basquiat here, baby
And it's like Basquiat comes in says things are going
Artistic in the in the place you get paranoid no one has as a male
No one has a better nude body than you. It's a little much to see every day, right? Yeah, because everyone in this room
I'm gonna speak for George and Gilbert have seen you naked
Everyone here seen you naked and it's like it's just like we got it
You're like the naked guy and it's just like that's confronting. Yeah
But I you know, this is from 20 years ago that that photo you look so I'm a ball. I've evolved
I don't do get naked anymore. Is that true? Yeah, he wants to immortalize his youthful body
Is that true? He doesn't get naked anymore
Well, you can't because the rules have changed yet the rules have since changed all the rules of yeah
Yeah, right if the rules were the same, you know, it's not the era for nudists anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I would still play the old game
You know mean dog
But like the rules have changed so I can't play the same game
Your foot is I'm gonna say right for a Korean dude. Your feet are fucking muy bueno
Overvore. I mean your feet. Are we recording right now? Yeah, we have been recording. Oh, okay. Yeah, so you should probably
I should probably what go ahead
Open I will in a second. I you're not gonna put your headphones on
You don't have to you don't have to I've done this a few times. I kind of know come on, man
Come on, man. You want me to put them on? No, you can do
Listen, Bobby, I'm sorry. I feel like it's it's getting listen. Here's the deal
And let's I want to be off of up front and honest with you and then we'll start okay
I've never kept the recording. I've never been to your home. I
Pull up. It's a I haven't been to your house before and it's beautiful
It's beautiful. Thank you. And then you invite me on to your podcast
Thank you grateful for and then I and then the yelling is starting, you know, like the tension is getting up
I'm not telling you the art to put up on your wall. I'm just saying
You do whatever you want. I understand that I'm just I'm here your guest here
You want me to put the mic here? You want me to put on? I'll do whatever you want
Like if you you know, you want to take off to my feet like
I like a bro, and that's why I'm up. Can I just say what I'm gonna say? Yeah, and then and then we can start
Yes, okay. I apologize
growth, okay number one
I apologize about my behavior so far and I'm gonna tell you the reason why I behave the way I behaved
Okay, is that number one
I've probably asked you in the last six years to do this podcast about ten times
Probably more than that. You might have more than that exactly and you would say either a variation of no fucking way
No response this and that and I get it. Okay, so by you being you have to admit
It's like it's like if Gandalf walked in here
Like oh my god, it's a fuck the wizard from the movie. I didn't know that was a real thing, you know
It's like it's very surprising your Lord of the Rings fan
Do you like Lord of the Rings?
Yeah, okay
How did it end?
I'll tell you how how did it end? I'll tell you how it ended. Yeah, what you mean the original three
No, I'm talking about the movie. Yeah, the movie. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so it ended by another king, right?
Yeah, bro. How did it? How did I'm gonna tell you how it ended dude? All right?
So they come back from the voyage right and my favorite scene right before it ends is when they're in Gondor, right?
And then Strider the king sings it
And then remember that and then he sees the elf lover live Tyler, right?
And then they do well first she goes first thing, you know, she has like something over her face
Right and then she could she get shy, you know how elves get shy she got shy
She's like, oh no, right and then he lowers it down and he goes in like wild for the kiss
So that happens and then they go and they see the Hobbits and
The Hobbits when they see the King Gondor the King of Gondor they bow to him and he goes, oh, no, my friend
You know, you don't have to bow to anyone, right? And then
Everyone bows and then when I saw that in the theater, I fucking cried like a fucking baby
You know who cried what me too that scene
So what did you just say right now? You just nailed it right now
That's how that's how return of the King ended, right? That's how it ended
I was I come in here. We haven't even started the show yet
You start hitting me with Lord of the Rings stuff and I said you watch Lord of the Rings
How did Lord of the Rings and the Hobbits bow to the King and you're trying to make up this thing like I'm the King, right?
And what did the King do? He bows to the Hobbit. What is happening?
You're like it's like Gandalf coming in whatever I bow to you
All right, I bow to you I bow to you because you're the King of Gondor, but you didn't cry
When the when the when the Hobbits bowed to the King you cried when everyone bowed to the Hobbit
Why am I the Hobbit dog? Look at you dude
Okay, I bow to you all right and I bow to you. It's I bow to you
Bow to you. We both bow we bow to each other, bro. We all bow to you
Because I went on a voyage I don't get it. I'm the one that saved the world
I mean what the fuck is going on here? You're just saying I'm a hobbit because I'm small
And I've stubby legs. That's fucked up, bro. That's part of it, but it's more than that
All right, let's start the podcast all right three two. I'm gonna put my headphones on
Look the King at the Hobbit King just asked me yeah
I didn't ask you do whatever. It's comfortable. It also kind of just say this
I didn't even finish my last thing go ahead, right? I fucked up by saying if Gandalf walked in here. What was the last thing?
So I was saying number one number two and number three. Oh, that's what I want to say
Okay, well, let's just start and I'll say it. Fuck it. Go ahead five well three two one
Welcome to my podcast with my girlfriend our podcast our podcast Tiger Belly our 300th episode what an exciting
Those ones don't work. I think you have to turn the that was scared me
I mean
Who's cleaning this not high we hired Jules no is Jules gonna clean this yeah, we hired her we paid. Oh, really? Okay, yeah
So, um, welcome to 300 episode
I'm your slept King
The captain of the ship, but you know what?
There's many captains on the ship and it's a Gilbert. It was good to do 300 episodes with you charge. Thanks, man
Amazing job you man. You're all right with me. You know, I like your vibe
You're a good white
And I've always said that when I see other whites and hungry. I said it. I know good white, too
And like who I go George, you know, I can all right
Congratulations to you and I've been asking this fool and I want to say this
There would be no Tiger Belly correct without DVD assay very correct
Because first of all number one. I never knew that she could podcast. I well I couldn't I know that's what I'm saying
So by by doing your show with Asa, right? I
Got to see her her evolve on your show and see see that wow
She's got chops. She can add information. She's bright. She's funny. She's got all of it, right? And she's good to look at
Thank you good to look at and so
So thank you for that. We wouldn't have this without you and also um, does it feel like a century ago like that?
We did it was we were in that pad well, let's just do it. So let's just could I just give a round of applause?
It's
Just one way to do whatever gas you're not I would say I would say the most special gas
We've had in all of you because there would be no it's like almost saying like there would be no Bible without the Lord
He's like the Abraham Lincoln. Yeah. Yeah, you're the Abe
Lincoln I
Bought a YouTube
Don't do it again. Oh
No
For audio listeners, they are bowing
Wow
Here's what I want to say that I want to close I want to say this also when you say it he say his name David show everybody
So when I when I saw you park your car come inside the house and we talked and we're walking in I literally
Don't recognize you. I know your face
Right because you're like you've got like you're a Korean. You have a big head
Right, you got that face, right? But I just didn't know what kind of Korean I was watching because it's like
You've come you're completely different. You've lost a weight. First of all, you look nice. Thank you, right?
And your demeanor is
Completely different before used to be like the Tasmanian devil
You know me walking into room and now it's like you're just calm you're very
Um, that's a projection. I'm just gonna go ahead and stop that. They've has never been a Tasmanian devil. You were that
They's always been way calmer than you
Thank you, Coliba, I appreciate that
You're right
You just read yourself to a tee. I was projecting. Yeah. Yeah, totally. I apologize again. I apologize for that as well
Okay, dude, even though it was only five minutes ago
Do you remember the first word out of your mouth when I got out of the car? What do you say?
We need to hang out more
That's what I said. Yeah, like like almost as a throwaway and then like as you were undressing me with your eyes
I wasn't doing that. You weren't you were just like I was not you were staring at me like
Fucking which absurd that you would say that you weren't like staring at me like in a weird way
Not a sexual way. I didn't say that. All right, just whatever whatever you I was I was looking at you
and I was like
Analyzing head-to-toe assessment
And as you were doing that you just threw out a quick, you know, we need to hang out more
That was a good thing. Yeah, and so my can I ask you a question?
Go ahead
Why aren't we better friends?
Interesting
What an interesting way to start this thing
You you could say I don't want to answer that question if we can move on. No, I'm not
I let me say this my friend. Yeah, I'm a lot of things. Yeah, what I'm not is a coward
When I'm bro, if there's a fire, I'll run through it
Okay, so I'm gonna address it. All right force as if there's a train coming toward all right, right?
It's not we are good friends
Are we?
No
The train hit you the train just hit me. No, okay, let me just say this, okay
Is it my desire in my heart to be better friends with you? Yes
Did we just go through a pandemic?
Yes, I didn't we didn't see anybody right Kalaila just let's throw up the pandemic start because even pre-pandemic
I'm gonna go ahead inside with Dave here. I think you're this is insane. Well, this is something you're a difficult person to get close to
Because you are what do you call it that avoidant? There's a certain like
Term they use in therapy, but you you throw out a lot of yourself to people as a way to keep them at a certain distance
Do you remember meeting me? Do you remember how we met 100%?
Do you remember? I do but I would love to hear how you remember it and then I'll tell you how I remember it
Okay, I'm gonna go first or you want to go first. I'll go first. All right. If I may
It's your show dude. Okay. Thank you
All right, so, um
It was at the 101 cafe
Yes, okay. I was sitting there by myself
Because I lived on beechwood. So I used to go there all the time. It was late at night
And for my peripheral vision
I see and I don't take this the wrong way a Korean warlock
Don't take that the wrong way. It was you were dressed in some sort of garb
It wasn't like human clothing like American human clothing. It was like a Korean
Human clothing like American human clothing. It was like a gullaby. It was like a fiesta, right?
But from the future and the past it was crazy
Yeah, it was like he was wearing stuff and right. I mean you weren't there was a poncho for sure
There were just things going on
You probably weren't wearing shoes nail polish and for my periphery. I go
Am I imagining this?
And then I kind of looked and I got no and also I know who that is. Yeah, immediately. I knew who that was
I go, oh, that's David Chow. He can do dresses the way he wants to dress, right?
Because if you were like a gardener, it'd be weird, but you know, that'd be dope. Actually, that would be dope. You're right
so, um
And then you came up to me. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you came up to me and I think you put your arms around me
Yeah, one arm and you go, hey man, do you know who I am?
I think that's oh, no, no, you said
Hey, bro, I'm a fan of yours and then I go. Oh shit me too. I'm a fan and then you sat next to me and
That's all I remember. I was soaking wet. Yeah, you were wet. I was soaking wet. My I was wearing a suit
Yeah, much like this one, but you weren't wearing other garbs. My brother had just gotten married
Uh two hours ago earlier and it was one of those parties where everyone threw each other in the pool
So I was with my brother and and my friend Harry
And we were all wet and it was like my brother just got married. Um
It was late. Let's go eat again after eating birthday. You weren't wearing any other outfit. I'm sure I threw a poncho over the way
Oh, go go go. Okay. You I don't remember. I was wearing something. I'm sure okay, and um, so I'm sitting uncomfortable in wet clothes and a poncho
and um
Don't take this the wrong way
Don't listen. Don't take this the wrong. Here's what I hate when people do that here. Just real quick. Okay a korean warlock walks in
I'm walking in now in the in story
Like it's not quiet hands up
I'm here. I did that. I am here. I did that
I go I know who that is. That's Bobby Lee. He walks in. Yeah
Sucks up all the air and french fry juice in the room
I'm like not only not only do I know who this guy is
Everybody knows who this guy is you're talking to all the waitresses
It's it's like this is a visual that I have you have a visual of an asian warlock wearing nail polish in a in a poncho
Which may or may not I can't confirm that
I have a visual of you with your hands up like this
Like I'm like this guy. Yeah, it's fearless. I don't know if he knows those people at that table
You are you are holding court at cafe 101
I'm like this guy does not and then of course different time different rules a nutsack is out
So I see I don't even know. Oh, wait, wait
Different time different rules different time different rules different time different rules
Can I say this one ball one ball? I don't all right? I'm gonna keep my boy
Not to balls from where I was I could see it was one ball
I don't open up relationships with my sack out. I don't do a sack attack
I don't think you knew who these people were at this table. There was a Caesar salad
I walked up to a random table with my sack out. Is that you were you were loud?
I it was loud. You were very comfortable. It was like you were at a comedy club
You were you were joking with people you knew and as you were being loud people were like
Hey, Bobby Lee and you would just go over there. Oh, how you were like
But it's your neighborhood. Yeah, it's your hood. You it was I had been there for decades
I have a very clear I could paint it right now
Yeah of you standing at the edge of a table one one of your balls is at the edge of the table
And some people are dying salad dressing coming out. They're laughing and yeah, you couldn't be at more home
Yeah, I didn't you the ball thing the don't defend it. Just it was it's okay and and what am I doing where I'm sitting
I'm done. I'm like
I've never met Bobby Lee and this is what I imagine he would be like he's here just
And and normally when I meet celebrities or I see celebrities out in the wild
I don't approach them. I go there's that guy and I just I don't say anything and I said this guy seems approachable
I don't go up to someone and put my arm around them like all right, and I see him and I go
He's talking to everybody. Yeah, so I'm gonna like I don't know if I'm ever gonna meet Bobby Lee again
I'm gonna try well. Not only did we meet
Davey right if I can call you that you can call me whatever you want. Okay
Um, not only did we you can call me whatever you want Robert. Go ahead
Please don't bow again. We're not gonna
That took but there was a second though. We do admit it that we were going to
Yeah
I felt it your eyes. Yeah, I felt like I felt me going forward, but then you stopped it
Thank you so much because I don't want to go that bad. I sat there with my brother and inside I felt
This guy is very unsafe. This is an unsafe person like
He is making because I don't know what's coming next. Yeah
We're just sitting here eating our chicken and waffles whatever and he comes in like the Tasmanian devil
He starts eating people's french fries nut sacks are out
And I go I don't know what this guy's gonna do next one one nut is out
I don't know what he's gonna do next and so of course I'm attracted to that
I know you are so I go closer to you instead of being like that guy's
Dangerous, I should go away from that guy. I put my arm around you. Yeah like a moth to the flame
Well, it's like you ever see mad max not the new one, but the old ones
And that one you know that big gigantic guy, but then he has that little guy the master blaster
Right, right that it's almost as if I'm that little guy. You're the big guy and we were separated
40 years ago. You know me or whatever and it's like I like that. Hey, you know what I mean?
Let me get on your back
It was it was as if we always knew each other and we could do this thing where it's about race
You're this kind of korean or that kind of asian filipino mexican, whatever. Yeah, but in this life
Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. That's someone's
Wait, who am I? I'm the little guy, right? No, I'm the little guy. You just called me a hobbit earlier
How the fuck are you? You're the big guy. You're the king. You're the king. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it
No, I knew it
Oh, no
So I get up let me get on your back
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hang on. Hang on. Oh, yeah, he does have bad knees
He's a lot heavier than he looks, Dave. I'd be careful. We're at three vows right now. So
Very deceiving very deceiving. So so so you meet people in life. Yeah, whatever race they are and
it's
it's why
When I did do a podcast
We didn't we didn't have the biggest numbers. It's whatever
quality over quantity
The people that I connected with
You go, oh, it's like a it's like a it's like a family or it's a it's like a cult but it
It went deeper than that, right? You connect with the
The outcast right and then you just know and then when you meet someone like that, you're like that person's unsafe
I'm unsafe. We're all fucked up. And then the fucked upness meets with each other
Then you just feel at home, right? I met you and I was like
I don't know him because I just met him. Yeah, but I feel like I can tell him anything
I could feel like he could tell me like if you had just told me I killed someone and he's buried in
In the dumpster. I would protect you
Like you know about you mean you cry well, that's how it all felt for everybody in that room
I think it was like for me. It was like a fever dream and I wasn't exactly
I was like you I was just in as much chaos as everyone else. But you're right. It did feel that way, Dave
It was like, oh, we there's no judgment. We can just be their most fucked up selves. You know
Oh god, this thing really doesn't work
But here's here's what you don't know
But do you know what I'm saying? I do know. He's like, can I can I tell you what you don't know? Okay?
Okay, what you don't know is is that
At that point in my life
My career was in the shithole. I didn't know that
Okay
You're approachable. Yeah. Yeah, it really was I couldn't get any auditions. I nothing was happening
I I had no I was just doing stand-up on the road and like really really bad comedy clubs and not making a lot of money
And it was bad for me and I just thought you know, I met Koila and I'm like, you know what made this is my route
You know love and I might start a family and you forget the career, right?
But when I met you, you know, it was like the perfect timing and that's what I really believe and the people don't
Okay, balk at this, but they're gonna say but I believe that things happen for a reason and you meet certain people for a reason
Because not only did you help me by being on your show
Which gave me Koila and I the idea of doing tiger belly, but you
saved
my brother
You saved my brother my brother
He has life
Completely changed after meeting you. He was a guy
You know, he's a oh, you know, Steve. He's a great guy. I love his great heart super talented and um,
Funny and he's he's everything to me, right? But you know at that point he was directionless
And when you came into our lives, you took my brother under your wing and you changed him
You made him the singer of your band. That's incredible. You guys toured and opened for steve ioki and
festivals and whatever we remember we we saw you in LA and the rooms were
Packed and you couldn't get in you were there too, right? And there's a mosh pit. I saw you
Yeah, no, I was there. No, but I saw you from the stage
It was like this like everything you just said is true your brother your brother's life is changing
We're on we're on stage the mosh pit that is crazy and in the background. I see a light
Like like here's the stage. Here's all the people and then like way in the back
There's a guy just looking at his phone
That was you I saw you. I was like, oh, who's that like not part of this right now
I was like, that's bobby. Yeah, also. Can I say this while he's actually
Maybe I love what you try to do. I'm not trying to do anything. I love what you try to do
I'm not trying to do anything. No, no, I know you don't you know, I'm telling you I'm telling you right now
You're not trying to do something but you did something. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me just say that all right
I don't know what your intentions are but you did have zero. I am exactly your free your free bird
Aren't you a free bird? I'm a free bird. Okay
so, um
Right, there probably was you probably glimpsed me, you know, like in a movie theater sometimes it made me sad
Oh, no, it made me sad. I'm gonna let you know
I I got kicked in the fucking belly in the mosh pit. He did
Someone kicked you in the belly. Yeah, I did a fucking front kick to my stomach. What? Yeah, and I went in the back probably
Google, you know, I mean I have this pain in my stomach. No bleeding. Yeah, I mean
Yeah, you have no idea. You can't make assumptions on what I'm doing
You think I'm playing candy crush on there? Maybe I'm fucking dr. Md or whatever. I'm going. I'm bleeding internally. What do I do?
Why are you getting so defensive? I'm not doing anything. I love it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Keep going. So, so
So you changed my brother's life, but he changed your life, too. You got the help me changed my life a couple years ago and, um
You know, I I want to say that, um
it's this is
how do I say this
You always felt to me like and we're not bound because don't please don't bow. We're not buying anymore
He has a smirk. I know not right now though. It was too much. Uh, we already did three
I know I want to do it so bad
I know I want to do it back. Why don't we save it to the end?
It's so hard to but I will we'll save it to the end. Do you want to do it right now? No, no, I don't want to do it right now
I don't want to bow right now. I'm just going to warn you Dave. He does. He only receives numbers in threes
So it's not it won't stop at four. It has to stop at six. So it's three six or nine. I could do thousands of them
Do you think I have anything to do after this? No, no, no, I think we're gonna go eat
We we could literally not talk and just bow the rest of the time. I know. I mean, we could we you know what would be funny?
Maybe I mean, it wouldn't be to be funny. It would just I know I know because I have reverence for you
That's how much reverence I have for you. That's why I'm trying for you. But and what we'll do is we would
Let's do a thing where the whoever gets up first loses
You'll lose. I think you would lose you have bad knees. You're I would I could stay that to be easy
Say that to beat you Dave wins that you have adult ADHD. You can't do one thing. You're right exactly
And we're not gonna do that. Yeah, right because we'll be here for 24 hours. I also want to point out
You know that picture of mad max of the guy you on top of Dave
Yeah, didn't you guys at one point have an idea of doing a show where you're handcuffed to each other? Oh, yeah
For like I never pitch that to you
Did you ever pitch that to me? Yeah, we came up with my fucking idea. Oh, that was your idea
Oh, do you ever pitch that to me? I don't get angry. Okay. I love
Every so every once in a while
Every once in a while
The old Dave like like the the egg will crack and his head will peek out and he sticks it back in
What is what is the uh, the bruce willis doing diehard?
He runs to the what fists with his toes. Oh, yeah, yeah
So I I'm making him go back in. Oh, you are. Yeah, it came out. I know they did. I saw it
We came up with that idea. I think I'm pretty sure it was my idea that we rift on it on the podcast like we
Yeah, I think I let's so there's no argument. Let's just go 50 50 on it. Okay 50 50. Okay, and when you just said
Did I pitch you on it? Something happened in me. It it
I understand that but he's gone. He went he's gone. I know
Um, I have a that wolf. I didn't feed him. I let him I know I have a feeling I can bring that little guy back up
You could try. Oh, I will. Yeah. Yeah, but um
But here's what happened. I pitched it not so I was in a pitch meeting and they didn't like my first two pitches
I think was over at like, um
I forgot what company it was but um, and then I pitched them that idea was called cuffed
So the show idea was me and Dave chiral
hang cuffed to each other
for a month
I think it was a month. Yeah a month and we we had to shower together
We had to sleep together
You know, I have to follow you to work you have to follow me to the stand to stand up
Eating the whole thing. It's coming back up again
Why I pitched it with you I go it's a show with you know why because you sound old right now
you sound like
And now my my egg it's coming out. Let me just say thing my egg now wasn't even cracked now
There's a little opening a stress and a little eyeball stick stick stick
You know, you know, I'm friends with a lot of older Asians like I'm not old, bro
Why do you keep no whenever I see you and I feel you and like, you know, your vibe is young, right?
I would never guess that you have young vibes, right? Yeah, but when you talk like this is when you
Pitching holly like old guy shit. What are you fucking talking about right now?
You're talking about handcuffing yourself to someone. What do you need to pitch that for just fucking do it?
Why wouldn't you just film that you got this guy and this guy?
Like why do you need to go to someone that has that cost nothing?
It's a fucking handcuff you go to a sex shop you get the furry one
So it's not doesn't hurt your wrist and you handcuff yourself to someone you got the cameras
What do you need someone else's permission to make that? Okay? I'm going to go back
I'm gonna go back in okay. I'm gonna go back. All right. I'm I'm out
What do you mean you're out my head's out of the fucking case. Okay. All right. You got me when you get louder
I'll get quieter. All right. Yeah, you got me all rolled up. Okay, so I'm gonna say this
I'll tell you why you have to pitch it ding dong
Okay, okay, okay, okay old boy
Okay, okay old boy. Okay. All right
That hurt. I'm sorry. All right. That really hurt. It's just I know what you just did would hurt me. Okay. I'm sorry
Okay, I'm just saying you got a young vibe, but when you talk like this, it sounds I'm gonna tell you
I'm gonna teach the youngster what it's all about right now. Teach me. Okay is
I
Don't have my whole I don't I have a limited time on earth
Okay, so for me, it's like I ain't gonna fucking be like hey, George. I'm gonna hang come up with myself to Dave
Joe for a fucking month of my life, right?
And then we make it there's no there the possibility of me making no money off of it
Right. I have a tv show coming out Friday. I know you are congratulations
You know how much it costs
Nothing because you I remember you did it. How much did I pay you nothing?
It cost nothing
I do you know, I did a show for vice called thumbs up. Yeah, you know what you know what it costs. What nothing
It's me running hitchhiking with the camera
I do think he's on to something though because you still operate under the idea that there are these like big
Hollywood gatekeepers that have to give you permission when you do that Hollywood shtick. It's dead. That's all dead now
You got to let that stuff go man
This all I got a limited
like
Don't break the cup
He's squeezing it. Let me show you how it works. You're showing me how it used to work
I'm not gonna handcuff yourself yourself to me with the chance that it might not make money
You're coming in here and you just explained to me. Thank you. You're being reverent. Thank you for
You know dvda say that led to this this does this show make money now
Does this show make money now?
Does this show make money now?
I'm gonna answer you dude. I want to fucking answer you dude
All right, you better give me a chance dude. You can't see it three times in a row like that and elevate your fucking voice
That pisses me off. You know why this show makes money. I used hymns on the way here. I did bluetooth
I have my rich wallet
Yeah, yeah, yeah, how many how many no-sulterous papayas accounts you think I have
Yeah, this show makes money. I know it does because you believed in yourself
This guy, do you believe in yourself? It's a warlock, man. Do you believe in yourself?
I believe in myself. I need to go ask for permission to see if I could get handcuffed to my friend
What the fuck are you talking make that show it costs nothing and it will be the fucking funny as shit
You've ever seen it'll be the funniest shit. Yeah, that shit will never get greenlit my show
Never would have got greenlit. You just make it. It doesn't cost anything
You have the cameras already. You already got these guys working for you
You just make it
Why didn't you answer my first question? Why aren't we better friends? Wow? Wow?
because
You did all this you did you said
You're connecting. You're like, this is what it meant. This is what you meant to me
I'm asking you you do. Oh, you saved my brother's life this and that I'm pitching you're getting off
Just answer the question. I'm gonna answer your fucking question
I I felt something when I met you and I'm sad that we're not better friends
Bro, you had a baby. You never fucking call me ever. You never call me
I don't call anybody Dave. I the only time in seven years that you called me back the fastest ever
Yeah, was when I called you to say I'm I'm thinking about making my own tv show
I got a call back in like
It's the Hollywood
I think you're making that up when I and that remains to be seen if that's true. It's absolutely true
And everyone in this room knows it it remains to be seen every fucking person in this room
I'm gonna say this. Okay. If you want to go into my phone and check the data. Listen. Listen, listen, let me go
Who did I ask to be on the show? Listen, who did I why?
Because I don't even know if you're ever going to respond to anything
You go to I'm like, yes, you were sick. You went to a place. I wanted to see how you're doing
You never responded. I said, hey, you just got out of a real serious place
I'm checking on you as a friend and I'm like, oh, I guess, you know, I want to I want to know that you're doing better
Yeah, and I go, okay. You know what? Let's be honest with you. You said you said you're gonna answer my question
You said you know what? I'm many things, but you know what? I'm not. Yeah
Coward
Answer the question coward. I'm about to answer. You won't you won't you keep deflecting answer. Why we're not better friends
Answer why we're not better friends
I'm gonna go back in there. Please go back in there
I'm going in. Hey, can you tape the egg shell?
Tape it down or do something. Okay. I'm sorry. All right. So can we just come I know I know you've got emotional
And I'm calm. I just want you to answer the question. I am gonna
Let me talk fucker. All right
I'm gonna answer this why the what is the question again? Why aren't you better friends? We we meet
We we sit here talk for 20 minutes about our connection. You're that kind of person we connect
You're unsafe. We get it. We get it. We're family. We felt like we know each other
You can say or do anything. I could say or do anything and yet there's no connection. Hmm
There's no connection. Yeah
Yep
You did come on my show you asked me outside. You said save it for the show
You said hey, I saw you put up a clip on instagram of you interviewing me. Am I gonna make it on the tv show?
No
Okay, I mean maybe season two. Yeah, there is one. Yeah, yeah
But that also was years ago, but I hadn't seen you in a while you come into my house
And I'm like I want to connect with my friend bobby. Yeah. Yeah phone looking like
Let's I let's wrap this up
Let's just get it done. Let's wrap it up. And then what do we do? We went had tonkatsu after right? It was fun
Right, just you and me. I'm like, oh cool. The cameras are off now. Now. I get to connect with bobby
Yeah, no, I contact phone got to get out of here got to get out of here warzone destiny like
Yeah, I see you but nobody's home. I'm like bobby. I'm your friend. You don't have to fucking
Tell me jokes. You don't have to entertain me. I just want to be with you. Yeah
And and then you leave and I go
I wonder if bobby will ever answer this question off the air probably not so I'll ask him on the air
Which I just told you it makes me sad. I consider you a dear friend. Yeah, but also we never talk ever
Yeah, like I mean, I see you at birthdays. I don't know how many times
You have to ask the question. I can't I'm about to answer
And you won't let me fucking answer bro. I'm getting quiet. I'm going back. I know
But let me just give me a fucking five minute platform here, man
Okay, all right
It's like and then I'm gonna start talking and then you're gonna be like, but you
Six months ago. No, but I mean, I think this all right. All right
Just give me five minutes. Go back in your fucking shell and let me speak. All right. I'm number one. Okay, you are correct
All right
I don't have connections a lot of connections with
anybody
You know, even my
Mom or my ask you that I said, why aren't we better friends?
I'm just I know I'm telling you're taking it personally
As if I'm doing something to you. No, no, I'm not personally
No, let me finish what I'm saying. All right. Let me talk now. All right, right?
And it's like it's not a personal thing against you
It's just the way I have been operating in the last 10 years of my life or whatever, right?
I'm you know, I mean distracted. I I don't have any real friends and I'm gonna tell you that
During this pandemic and by being in therapy and coming out of it is is I'm having a better understanding about
Like even the last couple of days. I've been talking to people on the phone
People I never really talked to and checking in with them and this and that because I I'm really
I really want to do it. You know
I'm trying to you know, I'm trying right because
It don't you think that this is something that I talk about my therapy. I have therapy still every week
A trauma therapist a very good one and we talk about all these things
it's a lot of like conflict avoidance stuff and also it's like
I honestly and I had to reconcile with this myself. The adult adhd
Diagnosed is really unmatched
It's almost as if he is incapable of sitting still even with the people that he loves the most
Without fidgeting or feeling like he has to reach for something because innately there's something in him that prevents him from
Feeling comfort by staying still also. I want to like okay. So, you know when I went to Hungary, right? I
I did things there that I normally would never do
But I forced myself to do it. What's in Hungary?
I was just in Hungary for a couple last couple of months. I just got back
I worked
Well, let's get to the bottom of this talk more about no, I want to talk about what I've been so
I've been forcing myself to do things right that are uncomfortable for me, which is connecting with people
Okay, and I felt like I did that when I was out of the country and when I came back
I literally made a conscious decision in my mind
I'm like, you know what I want to connect with like I'll give you an example today
My friend Kevin texted me and goes I'm having problems with my mom. You're not going to probably answer
But I'm having problems with my mom. Normally. I don't know why I just wouldn't
Right, but I called them immediately and I go what's going on. All right
I'm trying to do it because I know that it is an issue with me. Okay
And you know when you when I saw you today
It was a genuinely like I like an uncle or something that I haven't seen a very long time. I genuinely love you
I genuinely feel like
We're two peas in a pod and we've known each other for eternity
As soon as they got out of the car and you said we need to hang out more and in my mind
I was like that's not going to happen. I felt sad and so I was like putting on you were staring at me changing, right?
Yeah, yeah, I was changing in your bathroom and bobby was just like staring at me going
I don't know who this guy is right now and I just sat there and I was like
Like why is this the first time I'm invited to your house? I know kovat all that shit
I invited you ten fucking times to do this podcast
No, not the podcast to hang out as buddies as friends
I know because of because of but like first of all, let me just say this all right that we were
In the last year
We didn't go to the grocery store one time. I didn't see my brother for a year
My own brother we were very mindful about the thing. We didn't know what it was
I didn't know what it would do to either one of us health-wise and we we played it really safe
Okay, I want to say I hear everything that you're saying
All right, I love that you're pushing yourself to I hear everything what you're saying and I and I'm doing everything
I can to connect with people more even just last night like my ex-girlfriend did my show at the brader improv and she brought her
Beautiful wife, you know, she's married gen right and you over the last
Ten years I would see gen I would avoid them
Because I didn't want to like deal with it right because she went became gay after you. No, she was always gay
Oh, she was always. Yeah, she was always gay
but
And but then she was with you
I'm trying to understand. Yeah, that's it lesbian energy. Okay. I've lesbian energy. Okay. Okay. I play softball
See you're just you're like this just because you're you looking at me and you don't know my POV
I'm sitting here talking to you and as you the most eye contact I've ever made with you my eye keeps drifting to
To this painting that's on you though. That's telling you that's you that's you it's it's that you desire
And maybe that was on purpose. You're you know, that's always been there. That's you those are your hidden desires
It's not hidden. I just I said you're yeah, yeah, you have real desires
So you've always you've always avoided your ex. So so anyway last night
She came to the show and I just kind of looked at her and I go and I just said my name is bobby
And I you know, thank you so much for being here and you know
You're really talented
I want to get to know you and I and I was like being trying to be connected
I connected with both of them and I'm I'm literally trying man
But for you to come on here and open up your egg shell, you know, I mean and expose those things this was expose what things
Why I mean he's confronted me in that way. It's just like a little startling
But I say Dave, I think you should give him a chance like the amount of growth in the last two years
Is it's not this isn't bullshit all this. This is actually not like I'm telling you right now
He should just be talking to you because
I
Believe me when I say like even I didn't think it was possible for him to like truly like
Connect with anyone in his life
but
The fact that he has not missed a single session of therapy the fact that he is
Reaching out the fact that he is like
He I think give him a chance Dave. All right. No, I I'm it's not like I gave up on you. I'm I just
it's just um
I knew how much work it took for you to walk away from this to go take a break for a week to get help
And
And and you weren't you weren't talking to me. So I was talking
I was telling Kalilah, which creates this like weird triangulation shit and I was like
For you to go
Get help. That's huge. That's fucking like most people don't ever do that and um
And you don't think that I've
I
Credit you with that because it's like
When my dad just stop. All right, let me talk man. It's my fucking show like you said man. It is your show
All right, but welcome and I love you. I'm happy to be here and I'm happy that you're here. No
Oh, no, I have you six times
For audio listeners, they are bowing
And we're gonna resume the number four
That's number four
I'm even gonna break. I'm even gonna break that. Okay. I'm going to not even do the six nine thing three six nine
Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna evolve above it. Yeah, okay
But one of you know, what was a real big breakthrough for me at that place where he got help
It was one of the guys that you recommended
He sat me down during a family session and he basically explained what the
What adult ADHD does to a relationship
Compounded by obviously the other stuff and I was like, oh my god
there's either a radical acceptance for his his inability to sit still or
I'm gone
But that really
Changed my perception of him a lot
Even the whole candy crush thing having to having six gadgets at once. It's a comfort thing. He's seeking a comfort there
Yeah, and I get what it is
and I also have to say that like, um
You know when my dad died and I went to the place and I you know, I had my breakdown or whatever
And um, I got sober again
Congratulations. Thank you. And then the pandemic happened. It's been a um
This last couple of years has been a real growth for me
And you know, I I'm going to continue
To see my therapist and I'm going to continue to attempt to try some of these tools and be also
Do I slip into like if I'm at dinner? Do I slip into looking at my instagram or whatever I do, right?
Do I catch myself a lot of times doing things that I don't want to be doing? Yes, right?
But now I'm aware of them. I try to nip in the bot and I try to change my behavior. Why don't you just block your phone?
What do you mean?
Like if you like you you know, like you just sat here and you identified the things that
And you can you can you can correct those things. Yeah
No, and I and I knew that was going to happen like do what just
I didn't I'm not going to sit here and say I knew you were going to relapse, but I knew something was going to happen because
You know, you're you and your brother are both recovering addicts and
You have all this unresolved rage against your father and just in my experience of people
If you fucking hate your parents, you're like fuck that
I wish they were dead whatever and then they still die that does something to you
And I knew you weren't getting any support. I know you're not reaching out. You're not staying connected
And so to me it wasn't shocking that after all your years of sobriety
After your dad died that that you relapsed, you know, and I was like you're my friend. I care about you. I would love
I would love to help you or do anything I can and so I tried and
You know, I called you after your dad died. I texted you and you never called me back
Which I'm not taking personally, but it's it's um
For me like when shit like that happens, that's when I need to call my friends
That's when I need to stay connected because
Then then I I get I get lost in my shit. I get fucked up and then
Really bad things start to happen. Hmm. And so
You know and your brother he was calling me, you know telling me all kinds of stuff and
he was I felt like he was um
He was like super emotional, right? He was crying a lot during that time. Oh, yeah, and uh, but but that's okay
That's what you're supposed to do, right? Yeah, like
Like and so I guess I'm here now and we're having this conversation. Like how are you with that like with all the stuff with your dad?
I'm good with that, man. I'm dealing with a year and a half. Yeah. I'm yeah, I'm um
I miss him every day. I think about him every day and I um
Where is he?
He's over there. Oh
Where where baby got a visual day?
I never met your dad
Or here he comes
Oh, wow
Wow
Can I meet him? Oh, yeah
You should guys should bow together
No, I had dames about to meet him. I think I'm oh, it's yeah, it's tradition. I forgot
Yeah
His knees are like bleeding
Oh, you found out. Yeah, so crazy. What is that? Sorry, I never got to meet you. You guys two amazing boys
I'm gonna drop them
That is a really cute picture of your dad. I love that. I love that picture. He looks like you and Steve. Yeah, yeah
Like that vest over that polo. Yeah, so cute. You know, there were times when if I look at that photo
There were times the many many times where he was that guy
It's sweet and warm and smiley and um
Yeah, I miss that I miss that, you know, it's um
Do those memories come often? You know, it's funny
It's like the stuff that's negative happened so early on and I think it's so deep seated
And so just rooted into my body deep that like it's one of those things where I've
Was so used to coping it's just because it's always been there that I so used to coping with it
You don't even recognize it's there, right? So it's like
Like that guy, you know showed up in my 20s, you know, just like this kind of this warm
You know me very funny. He farted in your face if you're laying on the couch
kind of a guy, you know, and um
And he didn't speak English very well. So he
I don't know his innermost
feelings about anything
About what life is about about I didn't know what he cared about politically or
About do you ever ask him? Yeah, he just has no
Answers for me. I don't know later. I tell you. I don't know how to tell did he have connections with other people like deep
No, no, no
I mean, dude, you have to imagine
When my dad died
So this is what happened. You know what my dad said what?
What you just said right now, it sounds like your dad was like didn't have the words he's like, oh
I it's too hard to explain or something. Yeah
as I as I start to you know, do some work on myself and and try to
To to develop, you know to stay connected
I'm looking at
A picture, you know, I'm looking at my dad's face while I'm eating dinner, you know
He's like eats like a turtle. It's kind of slow. Yeah, I think it was after Thanksgiving and I say, uh
I don't fucking know you dude
Like I'm I'm old and I don't know I'm like a man now. Yeah
Like I don't I don't I don't know any I don't know shit about you
Yeah, I know some stories you told me this and some stuff that my aunts told me but
I have no idea what you think about
Like I don't really know you and he's just sitting there like this
And I go
Hey, I'm a grown-up now
I I'm living my own life
Do you want to get to know each other better deeply or do you want to keep it the way it is like this?
Keep the way like this
I I know and I was like
You know what hurts a little it hurts bad, but thank you for your honesty. Yeah. Yeah
They because it's they come from a culture that they don't do that. Right. Right. I think that um
We're lucky in the way that you know
It's inevitable that human beings evolve and I think in in many ways, you know in modern-day society
We were evolving in terms of especially men what what it means to be a man, you know and expressing each other and connecting on
Different levels that we couldn't do maybe 50 years ago or whatever. Right, especially in korea
Right, so it's like I always understood that about my dad like he
You know, I all I know is his heart
I know he loves me
It's evident, right?
I know that I love him, right? I hate the fact that he was so violent and beat the shit out of my brother
And I hate it and and that's that all the trauma therapists you see you work on do work on that
Yeah, you had a emdr. Yeah, you've done emdr. We've done all the it's so funny because when the place that you and I both went to
um
I did a session and
An emdr session and I went haywire. I blacked out
And I punched a hole in the wall
Right, but then I saw another like another painting
It had fallen and there was a hole in where that painting was covering
And I go after I calmed down. I'm like security came they knocked on the door. Are you okay?
And then my therapist is fine and I looked at the hole and I go
I didn't do that one and the lady goes your friend did that
That's amazing. That was me. Yeah, I know
Because your friend did that hole. It's nice to meet you in like drywall patches
And you know, we went to a place
Yeah, but I've been to all the places. I know you have I've been the pcs pine grove the meadows
Esalon
Hoffman I've done all of them if someone tells me this is the place
So I've been to like any place in america that is
Is going to help heal my brain and and change me. I just went there. So I'm talking about
You know years and years
and um
I blacked out. I don't know what happened in that room. Yeah, I it just
All of a sudden there was holes in the wall. Yeah. Yeah, and they're like
So, you know, like we're trying to be a therapist, but also you're gonna have to pay for that, you know
Yeah, yeah, they just covered it with a fucking painting
Um, right and then so people are like, um
I've done it all I've done if someone says experimental therapy like we could do this all day talk talk about
My dad beat me. He did this you could do talk therapy and I've talked, you know, I've been in the I'm not a therapist
But I've been in a room with a therapist for not hundreds, but thousands of hours now
So like I I I've heard a lot and yet
You know
For me it was helpful to punch a hole in the wall in a safe place
Yeah, me too, but at the end of the day all those places are still a business
Yeah, right. They're like, oh shit. Bobby's having a breakthrough right now
But we can't afford him hurting his hand and then a lawsuit and whatever. Yeah, and so all these places they
I'm like, oh wow, whatever this experimental
Thing of me doing this is it's starting to work, but then they cut it off because they're like, oh, uh, Dave calm down
It's getting a little yeah, it's getting a little and I go why why did you stop?
I'm having a breakthrough. Yeah, and they go. We're a business still. Yeah, we got lawsuits. This is an office
Yeah, there's people come there's you know, and I go, oh
Well, I can afford that. I'm an artist. I have an artistic license. Yeah, and all these words
Like mental health depression
ADHD
12 step program addict like all the words they're all like
They sound
I don't I don't want that
But if I hide everything as an art experience
Right, like this is an experience with an artist
And then I don't have to you know, subscribe to like this is a business and it's about making money and whatever
So I I I took all those things and I
It's like, um
When you introduce play and like
It's like, I don't know how much
Me talking about all the traumatic things that have happened to me
It helps. I'm not saying it doesn't help, but I'm saying I
like used to always make fun of me because
you were in um
Before you relapse you were sober for how many years 17 years. Yeah, so you'd always hang that over me
You're like pretty cute. Dave that you're starting to get help. I got 17 years
I got 17 years Dave when you get 10 years, then you could talk to me and I'm like
Would first of all would never sound like that. Come on Dave
Yeah, we could talk to me when you have 17 years. I mean that I would never say that
you
You would say that and you did say that and everyone in this room knows it because that's what you sound like when you're an asshole
And oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god
Is that the egg? Oh the egg's coming out. Yeah, is it uh balloon or it's like
Show all right, so you would say stuff like that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
You're telling me that you never shamed me like that
I don't think I would have shamed you like that
But you know if you're saying that I did then I did it from your perception
You said that okay, you're like Dave. I I'm not a newbie to this program
I I haven't taken a drink or or drugs in 17
You know, you would say shit like that and I'd be like, okay. I'm happy for you
I'm telling you I'm just starting this because I would only say that if you kind of poked at me, right
You know, I mean like trying to it's trying to like teach me about some shit about recovery
And then my defense would have been my defense would have sat down in this room
I don't poke you you poke yourself
Oh
Here you help me, baby. It's a bow break bow break bow break guys
It's a hard reset
Oh, no
Clod to do something
Just a bow break guys
But
But Bobby shivering it's crazy
Number five
I'm proud of you guys. I feel like this is breakthrough. This is breakthrough. You know what?
You know, I'm gonna call you now and now I want to I'm gonna
I'm gonna be that guy man. I love you. Do I really do. I love you and I hey
Hey, yeah, you just said it in front of all these people in your audience. I believe it this time, Dave
I promise I think I only do I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna know that's all I wanted
You didn't have to do all this other shit like yeah when we're gonna do the handcuff thing
I really kind of want to do. I think I honestly think it's gonna be a hit
I will never I will laugh for the rest of my life if you guys actually do that
It's gonna be very inconvenient though. I feel like there's gonna be a lot of assault of things happening
First of all, I shit five times a day. You don't think you'll have to go to the bathroom. You think I'm stupid
No, do you think I'm stupid? No
What?
What the fuck is your do you think I'm stupid kind of I actually kind of think you are
Yeah, I kind of think you are dumb. First of all, thanks for your honesty. I listen to your show
Yeah
I've heard you on this show over the years. How long has this show been out for six for six years. Yeah
You're star fucking attitude you pitch this handcuff thing to anyone that comes on the show
It's not special to me
You go. Oh, hey, I came up with this idea
You offer it to every fucking person that's been on you think I'm stupid. I don't think I'm dumb
I think you know what I you know, these are things if if it's stupid
These are fucking things
If Steven Yoon came in right now, you wouldn't offer that to him
No, I wouldn't fucking offer that to him. These are things that you you don't see out loud, man. You see it on the side like
Bro, it hurts my feelings. George can't cut this part out
Why you just said I shouldn't say it out loud. No, we're keeping it in. We're not cutting anything. George erase that from your fucking log
Log, all right. Let me see something right now. Don't tell George what to do
I didn't tell George what to do. Okay
Thanks for doing it though, bud. Really good to see you. You're ending it now. No, I'm not ending
I'm not ending it. No, no, no, no
Can I tell you how I picture this setup? What?
Slep King
I don't know. What's the accurate number of hours you play video games today?
Right now
Three or four hours
Oh, cloudless space. No, three or four hours. Skyrim? Yeah
That's not true, babe
Yeah, all right, whatever. It's hours, right? Yeah, it's a couple hours and um, you probably
I don't know the visual I had and don't
Is that you're like Hannibal Lecter and you're just like
porn jerking off video games, it's coffee, cigarettes, whatever and then Kaleila like wheels you in to the podcast room
Yeah, I don't know if there's a clock behind me, but it's like, yeah, that's not, you know, let me finish like
Why is this podcast end after an hour?
Why is the only bit
unhelpful advice
Like like you you could be bigger than Joe Rogan
You could be bigger than
Like you could have the biggest fucking podcast and it's just like just fucking like
Dial it in like let's just do the least amount of work. Let's do the least amount of work
Like you could turn this into a fucking huge show. Yeah, uh, Dave come on the 300. What I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, bro
This isn't my only dream dog
So what's your dream in Hungary? Your dreams came true in Hungary. No, but your dreams came true in Hungary
It did kind of what happened in Hungary. I did a movie
So that's your dream, right? I I'm doing a bunch of shit. I sold a sheet tv show. I do this. Congratulations
I do stand up. You know what I mean? I I do two podcasts
Right, I don't want with Andrew Santino as well. That's doing very well. Thank you, George
Right. My point is is that I've got a lot of balls in the in the fun
I haven't been looking at George while I've been I got a lot of balls
As I'm telling you this shit. I just see his head going like this. I see Gilbert over there. Yeah, they know it's true
what
like
In my whole life of knowing I got to get on a single camera sitcom
I gotta I gotta be on this movie
You've been on movies with the biggest movie stars on the planet. You have been on sitcoms. You do like
I just want to do
My all my dream is as a when I first signed up for
For open mic. Yes back when I was 23 years old was I just remember going signing my name and going
You know, I want to do it all
I want to try it all. I want to do stand up. I want to act
Maybe if I can do radio that'd be cool
I want to do animation and I've done all of it and I still do all of it
And nothing's gonna stop me because my dream it's all
All encompassing all of it and which one which one of all and I'll be here to say you did you have done all those things
Which one of those things makes you the happiest?
Doing the two podcasts, right and also I like acting
And then stand up next
Those stand-ups the least
Stand up for me is something that I always do, right? I did it last night for the first time in over a year
Which went really well. It was so fun and I did it with um new new material. Yeah, I did four new jokes that um
It was fun and then
No, and I um
It was eric writing he has it right
So it was fun and I'm gonna do listen, dude
I'm gonna you guys gonna be offended if I ordered postmates to the house
No, I think we're gonna go for it afterwards
I didn't know if you'd have food here. So there's certain things that don't deliver to my house
So I I checked here and I order I got I got some for I know what you mean. You're right. But what did you order already?
He's here right now. Can I get it? I'll get it. No, you keep talking. All right. What is it?
Oh my god, you wouldn't when'd you order it before the podcast? I'll tell him some tell him someone's coming out. Okay
Yeah, I ordered it right when I was pulling in I just
Um
Well, my brother said yeah, you want he wants to eat. Okay, let's eat, but you brought you just got food
Whatever we'll take it. We'll eat it tomorrow
Is that rude?
No, you could do if you wanted to sleep here live here. We would let you live here your family god
You really are I look at you like you're my cousin. I literally do like we shared some blood so far
I've been a warlock your uncle
Uh, I know a wizard and your cousin. Oh
There's something about you
It's so funny because it's like you're very Korean in the way and I I don't get
Like white dudes or any of my friends in comedy, right?
They can't the only people that can get me into that right if it happened to what my dad
But whoever's watching this right now. Yeah, if they watch this you were there before I even sat down
Like the second I sat down you were already your energy was like
Like a little bit and and and the thing is you do that to me too and I know that
What is that?
It's because we're so we're so similar
In many ways. I'll just say it like this because of I'll be honest with you guys. Yeah
I have zero anxiety about
Being on tv or going on rogan or being with bording anything. I'm not nervous, but I got nervous today
Actually, that's not true. I got really nervous the last time I was on rogan
And that's because I've just been out of practice, right? Yeah, so I'm like fuck man
I haven't talked to you like on the air or off the air in years
So I kind of wanted to cancel. I was like, uh, this is like
and and then it's like
We could do this song and dance, right? You get loud. I get louder like we could do it like
You bring it out of me and like and and because you're a professional clown and I can be
It's we could say anything to each other and I know we're still gonna go have dinner and be like they was showbiz, baby
Yeah, we could do that. Yeah, and there's something about that. That's funny and makes me really sad, right?
Why why why does it sound it's the same thing that I that I started this with is like
I could come here. I could tell you the fucking craziest stories
What I did last night all of it and I could put it in a witty way and
Uh, that was the best. I could do that. I know how to do that
But what I feel when we talk about like why why is this happening? Like you flare up. It's because
I'll just go straight to feelings one. I feel sad that we're not better friends
Right. There's two two. I know
I'm telling you how I feel. I know it's just I can I do I'm telling you how I feel and you can tell me how you feel
I'm telling you how I feel by by laughing. I'm
I'm go ahead and then two
It's like
When I say the old shit guy and you start to come out. I'm not saying that to insult you
I'm just
That also makes me sad that I'm like here's this guy
That I look up to that's funny. That's talented and like oh man. I got turned down for this thing my script
Hopefully this guy gives me validation and and it's just like
You can have it all
You can have it all and you and like even me checking in on you after you got out of the hospital. I was like
I've been there. I've been doing that for years
I can help you and hopefully you can trust me or
Look to me as one of many people in your life that can help you and I said
The number one thing that I was like I have to do after I got out of the most expensive like mental hospital
Was like I need a podcast
Right. I was there for 90 days and like I was like, oh awesome critter like everybody like there
I have to I haven't been I haven't done my own fucking show for seven years now
Yeah, if I decided I wanted to start it tomorrow those people are like
Just waiting. Yeah, if you decided I need a week two weeks three months
Uh to to to work on myself
None of these people would go anywhere. They'd wait for their king to come back. They bow to you
Damn it Dave
It's about break again for our audio listeners. Is that these six?
That was a seven. Oh seventh. Wow. Yeah, and so and so
it's like
I told everyone in my team. I go. Do you know how much shit I just learned in rehab?
Yeah, do you know how much shit I learned at this mental hospital?
Do you know how much shit I learned at this mental institution? I need it's my duty
It's my responsibility to entertain my fans and I need to share all this info and they're like
You are so fucked up still. Yeah, you're so fucked up
Why don't you integrate these things into your life before you start sharing them?
And so what did you do you podcasted like the week? I think even from the hospital
And and I go oh god. I wish you didn't do that and it's like
I I care about you and and it's the sad it's like you don't gotta do it's fine
Fine everything is fucking you should know that fine. It's an emotion fine fine is not
Okay, fine is that emotion everything's uh, all right. You just said it's fine, right?
The same way you poked me with the I got 17 years under the belt. I don't want to I don't want to be fine
I want to be that's you. I want to you. I want to you don't want to be fine
I want to throw I'm okay with where I'm at right now. What is sobriety to you? What what is sobriety?
You're not my sponsor. Why are you even talking about this man? Because you just said I'm fine
Yeah, everything's uh, listen. I feel great
Before you got here
Before you got here this last week has been so magical the last couple of months and now it's like you know what I mean
It's my fault. No, it's not your fault. I'm just letting you know that you're bringing up like things that are making me feel weird
You know what I mean, and it's making it's it's also it's like and about that. Yeah, yeah
But I and again no matter what you say or what you do. Let's leave. Let's do unhelpful advice and I'll leave
No, we're gonna eat
You know, we're gonna eat with my brother because that's what we do
We we we act like this and you confront me about like real personal shit, right and and stuff
And I'm telling you I'm working on these things right all and then you keep coming back
All those times that you keep coming back to the shit and it's like what my feelings your feelings are fine. Everything's good
That's what you explained to me. You're you explained to me. I got 17s
You didn't you never seen me when I'm drunk. You never seen me when I'm high. You don't want to be around that Bobby
Yeah, and I go, okay, but is is that that's what I asked you then I was like is sobriety just stopping the drink
No, no, I said I don't want to be fine. I want to thrive. Yeah, I want to enjoy. I'm driving that
Are you I don't know the word are you I didn't the word didn't pop into my head
When you just said thrive it went thing. That's the fucking word. I would say he's thriving. I'm fucking thriving dog
All right, I'm a thriver. Why are you yelling at me? I'm not yelling at you. You're the one that you're going crazy
But you're right Dave. He was not thriving. Yeah, I was barely getting by he barely had his head above water
But I will say in the last year and a half
There is a sense of thriving. Listen man. Listen man. I why are you getting why are you getting upset?
I'm not upset. I feel great
I feel great. I'm gonna say this
What's up with the weird voice? All right
This guy is gonna
Oh my god
Why why is me telling you how I feel about you making you this angry because it's you keep repeating the same things
It's like let's just fucking move on from it. I don't want to move on
I know you don't but it's like is this what you do with this is not your show
Is this what you do with your trauma therapist? No, it's not what I because you're not my trauma therapist
No, I would I do this with my trauma therapist because I'm you don't give me answers
You just go I want to keep moving on
I already gave you all the answers, bro. I said I used the t-word
What's the t-word thriving? Oh
Right, right. I we bowed it seven times already. I'm not doing it again now because you pissed me off
All right, let's do an unhelpful advice. It's a good thing. We cancelled that segment
Yeah, we cancelled that segment for Dave. We did. Yeah. Oh really? So this one's called question time with affair
We really stepped out of our boundaries for this one
Let's do question time. You guys I don't want you guys to break this shit for me. I want to do unhelpful
Listen, Dave, right?
Regardless of what we Bobby. I'm sorry. I love you so much
You know, do you know how early I got here early? No, like really early
How I got here an hour early down there and I meditated
like on that on that
you know why why because
This is how many times have you asked me to do tiger belly?
This is how many times have you asked me to do tiger belly? Probably more than 20 times
You know how many times I've done tiger belly? This is the first time more than 20 times
You want you want me to explain? Yes, please
Every time you ask me to be on tiger belly, I go home and I go oh my fucking bro
My big bro just asked me to be on tiger belly
He did dvd. I say how many times like
Not I should do tiger belly
And then then fear hits me and I sit there and I turn my microphone on and I record and I go how is
how is
With what I know about you and kalilah and your family and all this stuff
How would an episode of tiger belly go? Let me practice and this isn't wow
And so I have over 20 hours of me talking to myself playing
But it is I'm I'm not I'll send them to you guys. They sound like I believe you they sound like an insane person
Yeah, and they all
end like this
They all end like this and I go here's all the bits. Here's all the things I know that can
Rock bobby. Here's all the shit the insecurity. It will be
Must listen podcast
And I'm sitting there giggling and I go this shit is gonna be the most
Listen to tiger, you know, I do all that and I record it. I hit pause and I sit there and I go
It will get laughs. It will be entertaining and I feel fucking horrible
You feel horrible right now a little bit. Not horrible. I feel
No, I don't feel horrible, but I don't like how the longer the show went on
I I sat there for an hour
To just be like I don't want this to happen because you yell then I yell and it's like it's it's bro
No, what it's fine. Wait, could it be that it's not fine. You guys are just toxic for each other. No, we're not. No, absolutely not
it's
Listen, don't sing
perfect
Why did kalayla make that face then
It's perfect. I just think that there is something inherently in the both of you that where your codes
match in
Eight different ways, but they mismatch in nine different ways as well to where it's like you bring
A very magical thing out of each other
But you also bring a lot of deep-seated fucking rage out of each other and sometimes
Maybe space is the answer
Maybe there needs to be a type of lack of closeness there because I think
Feelings get muddled and confused. No, babe. What the fuck you're talking about. Don't call me
I thought I thought about it. No, I'm gonna call you. No, I don't want I don't I only I only want to be showbiz friends with you
You know what I'm my dad now. Yeah, I want the fake. I want to keep it. No, no, no
No, I don't want a deeper relationship with you. Oh, we're gonna get deep. No, I don't want you to ever call me unless it's for tv or
Let's don't don't ever call me. Let's keep it like no, it's so funny. No, let's keep it like it's so funny
Because I I will I will never ever take your call straight to voice message
I will never return your call. I will say that you're absolutely correct about all those assessments
You made of bobby dave, but I dare you to see who he's become in the last two years
How can I I don't never hang out with you? You will
You will
You will let's think about what our relationship is. Fuck the question. It's yelling at each other on podcast
It's fun. That's what our relationship is if you if you I've never yelled louder than when I yelled at you on my podcast
If you listen to this podcast, it's funny
When you listen to this podcast the real rage came from you. That's true. Okay, and then I'm just I'm a fucking
Yeah, just like thrive. I'm thriving
Right. What I'm saying is I'm reacting to you right because I'm method
Method. Yeah, it's like repetition. I'm so confused. You know what repetition is?
My head has spun around six times already. This is repetition, right?
He'll say something and I'll react to it in a bigger way and then he'll react to it bigger way
It's an acting technique, right? Is this acting? Is this a game or is this a friendship? Like what is it?
It's a real friendship, but how I love you. How? Why did you cut my set early in Hawaii?
Why did you cut my set early in Hawaii?
It's I have my theory of why you did but and your brother told me why but I want to hear it from you
Because it's not the Dave Cho show
You know when my openers go up before me they do
10 minutes or 15 minutes they get a lot of time
And there's an actual science to it. It's like when the show is
When they when the headliner goes up after too much show, it's just not as good. It's exhausting. Yeah, people are tired
So that's why I did and if you take that fucking personally, you're you know, no, I mean
I'm asking somebody that you wouldn't even think about that. Why would you even think about that?
Because it was on my mind and I yeah, yeah
I just remembered it right now with your tone right now. Yeah. Do you remember that time as a fun time?
The the most fun. Do you remember DVD as a as a fun time or a very just fever dream?
Well, the way I think about things which is the work that I'm doing is everything is the best or the worst
And I think the post makes guys here. Um, sorry
That's not a bit. I swear. Yeah
okay, um, so
Everybody's like that's the fucking worst shit or that's the best shit and that's been my problem my whole life
so I'm trying to live in a gray of
Were there like the fucking worst things that happened during that time? Yes. Were there some of the best times like
I love
I love this
I love I love when we're together. Yeah, I love being around you. I love that's at the end of the day. That's what it is
I remember distinctly
Going to the pig and the lady right with you me
Daniel dekem
Renzo was there grace park. I just remember so fun. So fun. So fun. You know, I there's so many
Experience like we used to go to that mall in little tokyo and go to that those that's that's that time
Oh, you know, I'm not a comedian. Yeah. Yeah
Hey steep that's not post mates post mates guy
That's not fucking steven you
That's not fucking post mates, bro. Come on in
You know, I walked out there. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, why is that post mates guy look familiar food? All right, so Steve, did you bring food?
Yeah, yeah
No, no
No, let's
We're not second mic. You'll have to share a very we'll get close Steve. Oh wait. We're doing that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, um
Let me just finish because of what I asked you you you missed the whole lot. I heard it got heated
It didn't get heated. It's first of all
If we were hooked up to some kind of thing that balance like could see our like heart meters and stuff
Yeah, that's still our just normal baseline, right? Yeah, like you're not that upset. I'm not that upset
like
The reason why I asked you the question about hawaii is
I I was scared. I'm not a stand-up comedian. I and and for me, I've seen your what what is that?
Why your eyes closing because what you're saying is so just inconceivable to me
That like and it's like I'm not I can't I understand that but what you're saying is so inconceivable to me
That it's going through a filter in my brain and it's not computing
So just let me do the face that I'm gonna do. Okay, and then I'll react the way I'm gonna react
So, it's just a condescending but anyway
It was it not really go. I don't know what the word means. I don't know what the word means
I just I'm telling you I was he's a comedian. Yeah, he knows Steve knows that I'm not a comedian
He asked me to open for him. So I'm like, holy shit like
So I get on stage and my thing was I don't want to go up with any material
I want to improv the whole thing. Yeah with just what happened that day and I start going into my hawaiian shit
And I felt what he must feel. It's like a drug. I was like people were dying
They were dying and I was like this feels good people are laughing
And then I saw like as I started to get my rhythm
I saw bobby on the side of the stage going get him off the stage cut him off and I was like
Okay, I'm telling you how I felt. I'm telling you how I felt and I said this jealous motherfucker
And it's not about jealousy, dude. Well, you just explained to me now. Now. I know I that's that comes from me assuming
And now I asked you and you go. Hey, there's a my neck hurts. It's like I can't you know
What was the reason? What was the reason why you wanted him off? Steve? Okay, can we introduce?
Everybody I said everyone's Steve and you and everybody. Hi postmates
Yeah, he was a postmates things things are going well for him
So, um, he opens for me in hawaii. Yeah, and um, you know how he is he's he's multifaceted
And he's also, um
dynamic
And he can do a lot of things and he's brave
So I go well, you want to open for me because I can do anything, you know, I'm Dave, you know, whatever
So he goes up and it's like
Like when you have an opening act, they do 15 minutes
20 minutes. This guy is at 35 fucking minutes
40 minutes in 40 minutes in
And I'm like on the side of the stage like
Lie down
Lie down, you know what I mean? And he won't get off the stage
And I can see the audience going what the fuck is going on. It was weird, right? And then you got offended by that
You didn't you didn't even fucking say anything back then
I know because I was scared to I'm seeing it now. Okay, feel safe with George and Gilbert and and steve here now
Yeah, I'm letting you know that it's not a personal thing
It was just a thing and we had a match every time all around that
So so I've come on the show so far
And I've been trying to explain to bobby like
Why we're not better friends and just basically my feelings towards him and it seems to be getting him like angry as you can
Probably sense right now. I wish I was here earlier
And I have more context and actually I want to kind of
Explain to bobby right now
Why you're here right now?
Oh, yeah, so steve steve came to my house a few nights ago and we talked for hours
about you
Hours so uncomfortable. I can't even
No, it's not
So uncomfortable. I can't even fucking believe it. So let me ask you you just told me
I'm so fucking uncomfortable. I can't stand it. But can you for a little bit because he's here
Can you be open to hearing what we have to say? Yeah, you okay. Can you be open to hearing what we have to say?
No matter how uncomfortable it makes you go ahead
Oh, here we go bow number eight. They've been bowing the whole time for respect. Oh, okay. Oh, that's you don't have to
Um, I like that bow. That's a new bow
All right, so oh listen, that's my dad
Okay, okay
Is this your
Yeah, um, all right. Okay, so
You know what? I'm comfortable. No. No. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna do this
I'm gonna take them my earphones on and you're gonna close your eyes. No, I'm gonna close your eyes
And I'm gonna I'm gonna listen like oh, wow
Oh, wow
Maybe
Bullshit, maybe close your eyes. Mike. Mike. Maybe close your eyes
Maybe close your eyes. No, don't close it. No, I don't
Okay, look at mine. Is this a sabotage and I love it. Go ahead. You think this is sad. I don't know what it is
Let's just do it. Okay
You think this is a no, I'm gonna go or do you want to go you go first?
Okay, I'll go talk to this guy. All right. Okay. Okay. When I tell him how much I love him
I
Um, can you can you hear me? Okay? Everyone's good on the mic. You want headphones? Oh, no, I'm okay. Okay
Oh, okay, really? Okay
Um, it's not that intense
Uh, we were just talking and you know Dave Dave is great because if you know if you have an idea
He pushes the button and then we're just on to the idea, but basically we were just talking about you
and how
Underappreciated you are
And we wanted to come tell you that like
That's what you talked about. Yeah
What is it?
Okay, I'm genuine genuine
Uh, like like we were we were talking about because I because I know you're doing a bit sometimes too
Is like sometimes I listen when I listen to tiger belly the fun bit that I hear you do
is that uh, nobody respects
Or your career and that's not true
That's not true. Especially for me. Yeah
Because I massively respect. I know you do. Yeah
I mean, I don't know that you but I you know, it's it's funny. It's like
I like the back in here
Wait, what happened to the listening part? I just listen to it can make me a response. No, I didn't I didn't get to say what I
You've been talking for fucking that's true. That's true. That's true. I want to hear more. I want to go ahead
I can't yeah, can I respect your father?
Here I got you dad
No, I got him. I'm gonna hold him
So we start talking about tiger belly
we start talking about you
and um
It's just uh
You know, we could you know, we could talk about the handcuff stuff this and that but the the pain I feel
of
When I hear you go into like man, I went into this pitch meeting. I didn't get the thing
I used to be on the show called mad tv. It's never like
It's a show from like 20 30 years ago
And and I just sit there and I go what you heard what steve just said I and I go I wonder if bobby knows
What he means
To me and then I say that to steve and he goes I wonder if bobby knows what he means to us
And it's like
I have it all. I'm fine. Oh, no, I'm thriving
but it's like
everything you've ever wanted everything that's like
like
Do you know what you mean to me?
Do you know what you
That's why I asked you are you open to here and you said you're gonna sit not the way I thought I was gonna go
Look
You walked into cafe 101
And and and you do the beta you there's a warlock there with nail polish you do the whole thing and I
Never ever in my life thought I would meet you
And and and I never thought I would meet you again, which is why I was like this is my chance
Right and you say all this shit you changed my brother's life this all that you changed my life
You changed my life, and I I want you to hear it even though it makes you uncomfortable like
See, why do you got to do that? I don't know why I did. Why do you got to do that? I was sneezing
All right, that was a sneeze. I mean, are you taking in anything that we're saying? Yes, I am
That's why I close my eyes when I'm absorbing it, but I get it. I get
I can't hear even
I I get the the cringe of this thing
but
You know, we even talked about it. I was like, I don't know if I maybe I should just call him personally
But then you know, this is more yeah
showbiz, baby
Hollywood baby, but but truly
Bobby
You're like not you're
I think you know this but sometimes it just feels nice to hear it like you did it
When nobody else could
You did it for us. Yeah, we bow to you and people don't fully know
By himself they meet him. I don't I know because I I'm gonna tell you why this is did that feel foolish
Thank you
Don't laugh
You you did it, but it's serious, but it's serious. Don't turn it into a joke. I'm not don't turn you did it
You did it. I receive it. You did it
Receive it
I've I've absorbed it
inside my body and I'm going to say something in return and I'm going to be as
Authentic and as real as I can be okay
Number one
It's the realization that
It really doesn't mean that much at the end of the day. It's like I have everything that I need
Okay, honestly, I do I have a house
I have some money saved up. I have a beautiful girlfriend. I have friends
My mom's still alive. My brother's with us and he's he's thriving as well
So that's number one. Number two is
I really believe that I am owning up to who I am
Not just as a human being but also as an entertainer. Okay, and I in this last year
It's been very fruitful for me. I'm working all the time and things have been great
And I'm going to New York to do something else. You know, I mean next month, you know, I got Sex in the City
Right, so I'm doing that and I'm doing
You know and I'm so for me when I hear you guys say that right
it's you know
It really means a lot because obviously I love both of you. I think you both are
Incredibly talented and I really do appreciate it and I almost got really emotional emotional there, you know, and I have
I have defense mechanisms and I and I you you
Yeah, you're doing it. I
Can I just finish
Because that's your thing. What I don't want to yell don't I love you
You know when I yell at you and I go tiger belly could be the biggest show and and that's like me
That's you're right. That is that's that is old Dave
But today I just accept you as like you don't have to be on sex in the city
You don't have to do any of that and so I didn't say that just for you to see
Well, what I'm just saying that look you're getting angry again. I'm not getting angry
I just want you to really understand what but you know, you know what happened to me on the drive here
I was like I need to download some bobby. So I listened to bad friends your newest episode
And then um the beginning of the episode you were just recounting how much work you had and then I almost turned the car around
Be like he doesn't need me to come over here to say this shit
I was like this is fucking non-stop. What the fuck
Yeah, yeah, no you you things and I you didn't need me to I just just to be clear
Yeah, this is awkward for me because I know you don't need this and this wasn't me
This is not an intervention or us coming here to be like you feel down on yourself
No, no, it was for me. It's just like we sat there. I've talked to you in a while
Yeah, and so now I get to like tell you in a time when
And I don't want to shrink you down to just Asian American
But like in a time when Asian Americans are getting a spotlight
Just on that lane of what you've done for the community beyond
Separate from humanity, but what you've done for that specific community
Massive and people don't get it
I and that's kind of what I want to say is less to you and more on this program
I don't think people fully realize what bobby Lee did
For Asian American so this fuckers this fuckers at my house
We're having this conversation at my house
and I'm like
I wish I was better friends with bobby so I could call him right now and he would pick up the phone
And we could tell him on person and I said, you know what I would what steve's telling to me is like making me emotional
And so I'm like I want to tell this to bobby, but he's never going to pick up my call
I should just go on tiger belly and tell him
And so here I am now and you're getting and and you're getting you're getting and
And so we start the show and he goes. Oh without dvd. I say there's no tiger belly. There's no fucking
Us without you. There's no us without you. That's true. That's true. I'm
Bruce Lee. There's nothing. There's a void. There's nothing
There's nothing about this, you know, and then there's bobby Lee on mad tv and you're like, oh, there's hope
Yeah, there's a light at the end of the tunnel what you meant to me
A young me what you meant to a young steve. Yeah, yeah, you know, what's great. I want you to hear that
100%
100% I hear that
And I remember an episode of tiger belly where you tell the story about you guys were at a korean barbecue
And you're talking about how like
You are you self anointed yourself as a korean something parks barbecue. Yeah at parks and then you fucking ate it
And that's because
It's the shittiest raw deal to have to anoint yourself in your own mind to the worth that you
Inhabit and that's kind of the function that I'm trying to
Serve here with Dave is like
Let me just give it to you like you got it like you did it
And you did it for us. You fucking did it. You did it for us. Um, I don't get asked to um do the um, yeah
PSAs we don't want you
I
You know, I get together with steve ali wong dave chang and we go you don't want this guy
Yeah, I can I just tell you something I care about it
Yeah, and I think I have a voice and I want to say, you know, stay. Hey, man. Stop the asian violence. Say no
But you know what though what I'm saying is your existence is more powerful than you realize to
Like in that you just doing this fucking show is more stop asian hate than anything
Yes, like you just being here and being your thriving funny fucking self is like you don't
What were you gonna say? Don't hurt me. Don't hit me. Yeah, you like it when people hit you
You're really offended but that's but your existence is the protest and your existence has been the protest
Since the beginning of your career and that's kind of the validation that we're trying to put out there for you
Again, not that you need it, but just for the knowledge just like sitting here. It's like brucey. That's not me
There's this asian waiter. That's not me and then and then there's this guy
This guy with the he comes out and I go, okay, you know, I got really I got emotional and I you know
The first the third day I was on mad tv a producer called me into his office and he said
Sit down and I sat down and he goes
When you auditioned I didn't want you on the show. I don't think I don't think that you're talented
I don't think that you're right for the show
He's a producer on the show and I know
Really and he goes
Yeah, it's just like the owner of the show really likes you and a couple of other guys
But like I just you know
So basically he was saying like me and my my writing staff that the people that I
Probably gonna write you things, you know, he said don't take it personally. We just you know and I remember turning around
Walking out of that room in just in like in the verge of tears
right going
Oh, this is even when I get something. Yeah, it's
There's another
Hurdle and there's another wall I have to climb
Yeah, and this that one was one that was like so high up
Right because I had to change
His mind and when you don't have the opportunity on the show
Right, you don't get a lot of screen time and parts written. How are you gonna hit the ball? Right? So it's like it was it was
You know, it was tough
You know and I stayed on there. I just just showed up
You know, I showed up and it was hard. I think you didn't just show up though. You took
several years
of
fucking
beatings
And yet you thrived like they put weights on you and you still thrived and
You're out here now thriving independent of that
Yeah, and I wonder
like
You know, you could take the weights off too
What a concept wow
Wow
And that's not an intervention point. That's for me like as someone that
Launched off of your trailblazing and your shoulders
I can say there's a point at which I was like, oh cool. I could take this off
I put this I kept this on and it became a thing I justified and now I could take this shit off
And then you're just like fuck. I'm good. Like I can do it. Okay. I just you know,
You know, I don't know what this is
But um, what do you mean this guy comes to my house? No, I know. I know what it is. I know. I'm just saying I
I know what it is
it's just um
I wasn't expecting this and um
I you know, I appreciate what you guys just did
And this is the first time in my life where I
I
Agree with you in the sense that like
Yeah, it was hard and I did do it and I and they didn't want
A Korean guy in the show. They're like we want to we need a white guy because it
They you know, and then they they tested me and Taryn kill them
And they're like we want the white guy, but we'll bring the Asian guy just as an experiment
right my point is is that everything was kind of difficult and um
And I just I always knew like when I met I I'll be honest with you when I'm at a comedy club and
I'm stacked up against all these white and black guys and this and that I know
That I can carry my weight and I know that I will be as funny or funnier that all of them
Right. I believe that you are I know I believe that you know, I've seen it. I've I've
I've done it. You know, I mean I've seen it
So all those it's hard to say because it's like how do you toot your own horn?
Yeah, yeah, howdy. It's it's just a difficult thing to do, you know, and um
I um, I hear you guys and I really really
That means a lot to me and I really appreciate it. You know, I think that this was a um, we appreciate your hard work
Yeah, it's it's really good. We see you. Yeah. Are you getting emotional? I am because I think that
I don't know just like
Having been your all right
All right
We've been together a decade
And when I met him he was so broken and he was so down on himself and
He was just so like lost and he was still like looking at these gatekeepers of hollywood thinking like hand me something
Have I not done enough?
and I've just always been like
On the sidelines like desperately trying to tell him like he's worthy
But I'm a nobody. It was just a nurse, you know, and I'm just somebody that loves him
So to hear it from you guys, you know, like
established people like
It means a lot to me because I feel like that reverberates more in him in his body than it would coming from
You know somebody like me who just loves him for whatever chaos comes
Whatever form shape that he comes in, right?
and so
That means a lot to me hearing that
I I you know, I
Oh, I I don't want to
I
Your words and your acceptance of the fullness of bobby as he is
Is the most powerful thing that he can have like straight up my wife is
Like she takes me to she sees me when I'm taking shits
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, she's still here. Yeah, so like
Fuck everyone else. I've seen it. It's powerful shits
Yeah, man, but I all that to say like I'm I'm not here to tell you anything like you already know
I'm just here to tell
That's why I think this public form is cool because it's like
Like cool every motherfucker that didn't realize that bobby lee like set shit up for people and us and took
Man, I mean, I know how hard it was and still how hard it is
For me to navigate this industry
And you did it when nobody was there
Nobody and we do the the you know, whatever turned into a bit. We're doing the bow joking thing. That's not a joke
That's not a joke
Yeah, I know it's not
Now I know it's not um, I listen, you know, I don't want to cry anymore
Why not?
Because it felt good
It felt good. It was a release. I felt good about it and at release. Um, you know
I um people need to pay respect to you. I know and we did that
We did that and I
honestly
From the bottom of my fucking heart. Thank you too for doing that
I've never that I never dreamt
That people like you guys like guys. I really respect. I really do
Like in terms of I like I go this these guys are younger
And I can't even believe that, you know, sometimes, you know
I can't believe that certain certain people like me or whatever. It feels good, you know
So it's like I want to say thank you for doing that. It's you know, so much respect there
and I believe you
And I um
I'm never going to forget it
I'm never going to forget it. Oh shout out to tia carrera. That was another one. I really oh
Yo, you're not the only one
You're not the only one but you know what yeah the distinction that I make that you
did was
You didn't try to fit within the prism of what asian america was supposed to be
Yeah at that time and you frequently
Continuously broke it
Even when the community itself didn't want you to break it like that, but that's a lot of that's fucking balls
And it's a lot of work so much work
That's why when he says you could put the weights down now. Yeah. Yeah, it's like when khalilah shares
And like just hearing her that makes me emotional like that because it's like that's
That's your woman man. She loves you and
um
It's it's like uh
Doesn't make more sense now
Because we've been battling before before the post mates guy got here
No, it's like I I love you so much
That when I feel the way that khalilah must feel all the time being
It does make me angry because I'm like I wish you could see yourself the way I see you
And like this fucking guy shows up to my house and we're just doing a bobby lee fest. I'm like, let's tell him
Yeah, let's just tell him like why are we saying it to each other? Yeah, he should hear this shit
And it really means a lot man
Well, you mean you you mean a lot you changed me you always do that you like you changed my life dave
I was in this fucked up place and I came you always say that but you changed me
And you know what?
That fucking analogy the lord of the ring things. I'm gonna watch it tonight
You know when the when the hobbits bow to the king and then the king bowls back to the hobbits
I remember that did you see the yeah, yeah, yeah clicks I cry I cried during that scene
So I bowed back to the hobbit because you you you I came on here
He's like you're the king you're the podcast because you're Gandalf and I was like I bow to you
The reason why that works is because we followed them from the first movie
It's just the movies were so long and you know me and you know me and and just painstakingly difficult
That they're voyage and just I needed that and that's you we follow you from mad tv
I'm not a hobbit, but I know I get it
You know like all the things but you're right. You're right. You're all the herald and kumar shit. Oh, you're right
Right. You're right. You're right starting the podcast. It's a long journey
Yeah, and I and here's here's and it feels weird as someone who's watched all the lord of the bobby lee rings
We've watched your hobbit journey. Yeah, and then you get to the end and and like we're bowing to you and you're like
Um, that was the same. Yeah, and yeah, you're the fucking king and then you're like, oh, which one am I which one am I
You're you're um, I'm wise man
I knew you were gonna say and then you get to the end and you're like, oh, uh, I hope they still like this
Yeah, my my hollywood pitch script. Yeah, and you're like, wait you you saved the planet. Yeah saved. I think you would be merry
I think steven would be Frodo
Right, I would be samwise. No, we ain't hobbits, bro. Like you're the hobbit
That hurts. I'm sorry
I I didn't even mean that I
I apologize. That's super mean. I think I think it's not
I'm not hobbit in the whatever thing that they bring. I think it's
You've always been a man of the people and I appreciate that. I'm like pissed that all right guys, steven
You know what? You know what? I'm saying and I'm not saying the same shit
He's been fucking saying this whole time and you hear from him, but not me
I've I've been trying. Are you raising your voice to get mad because what that does
Is I have a defense. I want to end if the longer it goes. I start thinking I'm like, wait
Why does he hear it from him? But not for me. You don't get mad at steve. You and but why do you get mad at me?
He said the same shit. I'm saying like and because he doesn't raise his voice
He has a way of doing it. Well, like it's more of a professor the way he's sitting is like a professor
Yeah, you're very like agro sometimes dude. You're like a volcano. It's erupting. I'm gonna run, you know
When you see a volcano erupting you don't get to see what's going on you run away
Beautiful volcanoes. There be ever I've never seen one lie. I mean either but yeah, I imagine is yeah, yeah, but I've seen yeah
Yeah, very good points there steve
I don't want to bow anymore because we did seven
Are you sure you're okay with seven? Yeah, I'm totally fine with eight. You're one away from the three
I don't want to but I want to I because the other day, right
It took me a half an hour to get to bed because I was touching everything in the house three times
Yeah, and every I can't tell what hit my foot
I would do it three times and it took me like 30 minutes to get to bed and I touched everything and I was like
I really want
What are you doing? You're fine. Hmm. This is insane. You're thriving
Right, so I'm not gonna do the three. Okay. Got it. I'm trying to break it
You're you're you're release yourself from that even like cracks on the street like I was in hungry and I was like
All right, so played out. What would happen?
What's gonna happen because in my head? I think I'm gonna die
Like if I don't do like if I'm walking down the street and I see the same crack
I got to hit the crack three times and I feel like if I don't do it
But you see and you see the death or you feel like I'm no, but in my head
I was like I'd rather die than do that
Because that's fucking crazy. Hmm. Like at the movie theater, you know what I do, right? Yeah
Like if I turn around in a movie theater to Steve
I have to turn around two more times. So if you're in back of me at a theater, this is what you see
You know what though, I have I have those ticks too. I don't have it like that
Yeah, I have I have this weird like breathing tick that
God God bless Joe
She just
I know she can hear and she just goes like that's just what do you mean breathing tick?
You have sometimes like if it's like late and I'm like stressed out. It's like
I like to have a tick and like she just
Wow, you know, of course she wouldn't but at the same time it's just like
I'm conscious of it. I'm like, oh, she's still here. Can I give you a compliment?
Awesome. Yeah, may I give you one because you gave me a thousand of them. Okay. Thank you
So this is and it's a sound you're gonna sound gross of me
But like when I
When I'm like watching something and I see someone asian, right? I'm very hard on them
I don't know why that is but it's like I'll see something. I'll and it's something usually I'll just go
Right
but so now my brother and I we heard about the show The Walking Dead and um
I was doing a show at the punchline in Sacramento years ago when the mood the show came out
And I headed on DVD
Right about on DVD and I remember playing the first episode and my brother was there
My cousin Eddie was there as soon as you came on the screen
It was the first time in my life. Well, I didn't have a reaction
Of like where I went
Uh, I went I immediately
liked you
Thank you, man. I I immediately went
No, but what he's a good actor. What he transcends. He's cute, but he's also likeable. Yeah, right and he's also
So he didn't threaten me in any kind of way. I go
Because because what a what it's like guys never went out for the same role. No, and I think one time remember one time
Yeah, yeah, and I looked at you and I said, what are you doing here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
I get this is five lines in the movie. Like, yeah, what are you reading for this for you're way beyond this
But dude, you know what I mean? That's that was that's still the state of not you not now
Perhaps not now. Yeah through its own prism, right? Like and it doesn't mean I'm scared of it now
Now I just I guess the difference now about when I say like take my weights off. I mean more like
Now I accept the terms of how much more work I have to do
But I will do it. Wow, you know what I mean?
Like what are we gonna just like trying to game-brain it and like figure out how to like skirt it?
They're never gonna
They're never gonna do that for you. Yeah, so you have to get in there and be like fine
You're gonna do 10 more push-ups. Watch me
Yeah, but there's also things I'm not willing to do like right before I because I went to Hungary
But right before that I got another movie offer where it was a big star
And the part was
And they they were offering it to me the director zoomed and it was
some Korean guy with an accent
And I just was on zoom with the director and I go
Why doesn't he do an accent? Mm-hmm. You guys I just want one
You know, I want one in yeah, and I go
Yeah, but you want me in the movie, right? And I don't feel comfortable with it
You know, I think I think that he doesn't need any good. I want one
And I go, okay, and I turn it down. Mm-hmm. And it was like the it was a big movie. Hell. Yeah, and I and it was the
And I even questioned myself. What the fuck are you doing? No, yeah, because like 10 years ago. I would have sucked his dick
Right. I wouldn't want to say hell. Yeah, but I'll do it. I'll add stuff. I'll pull the I'll wear the rice paddy hat
Right. I'll put none chucks around my fucking thing and I'll suck your fucking dick for the part
And now it's like no, thanks. I'm not doing that. Well, I'm proud of you for it's awesome. Well, and that's also
You know, and I talked to Steve about this stuff. It's like
Like when I hear about you going out for parts or roles and it's like
Unless the role is like written by an asian person, they're never gonna get it, right? And even then, even then, even then, even then they're gonna get it wrong
And so it's like if I listen to
How much comedy you've put out and every episode of tiger belly and every episode of bad friends. It's like if you just mind through that
That's where my anger comes from. It's like, man
This guy's waiting for the perfect part when he could just write it himself
Film it himself and it's like that's not even it. That's not even it. It's three simple words
This is it
Right now
What i'm doing right here
With you two right now in this moment
This is all of it
This is all I need
Right
This is incredible. It's like I have
You know
Two artists that I respect that happen to be also Korean
Which there is you know, there is a deeper. I mean, I'm sorry
But there's a deeper connection when it comes to that shit, especially how difficult art and acting is and all that stuff, right?
It's difficult. You also have a comedy background. It's like, you know, there is something I open for you. I have comedy background
And you know, you don't know what the light is yeah
You know, like when we light you get the fuck off stage
All right, it's not your show. I understand that right right. Thanks. Thank you master
Okay
um
But you know, it's there is like, you know, I when I was in Hungary. There was a girl actress named Greta Lee
And I didn't know her. Yeah, she
She asked my other friend Jeanne, I
I just want to meet him
So we had breakfast and as soon as I met Greta. It was like
It's a deeper. Yeah Greta. You're also great as though greatest. She's a great actress. Yeah, but there's a deeper connection
I I it's weird to say that that's right, but I I'm sorry that it's if you're in the
I just want Koreans to be proud of me. That's all I want
I know right and they're not and they're in the same way like well like like look
You're never gonna get the level like whatever how insane tiger belly fans are or whatever
They're never gonna get to like the bt like the way they get behind Koreans
Right, right like you're not gonna be bts. You're not gonna have that like that kind of shit
And so everything I've done when I show up
I go, oh, where's the Koreans at because I want that I want a little like I want validation from everyone
But I'm like it feel a little bit nice to get from
And that's like, okay, I'm not gonna get it from Koreans from there, but how about from here?
Oh, not so much either, but I oh from Korean people. I always get it
And I guess this will be my coming out. I always get it and I could get emotional just talking about this
Because always from Filipinos always always, you know why they show up in vans
Can I tell you why they told because I want to there's zero of us anywhere
And I will be like this is what's driving me crazy. It's like even in this apparent asian wave
There is none of us. I don't see a fucking sliver of myself. I look back at my life. I go the philippines showed up
That's why we rally for you always always
Can I see and I so me saying this shit? I don't even identify I I don't maybe shun
Because I still kind of want it. I don't shun korea, but I identify more as Filipino than korea. Thank you
Can I say something? I I want to say something about my life. I feel more connected to the Filipino race than korean
I have the Filipinos show up always for me always
They defend me they show up they buy my shit
They date me like they fuck like all my entire tv shows made it by Filipinos
But we got your back all day Dave and and and to feed my own ego
I was like, you know, I was like, but why I asked them, you know, my my first show is like 50% Filipino
And I'm like, oh, there's there's one korean there and the other one's my dad, you know, like
And and they throw from far and I said why why you know, I want to I want to hear the ego boost right here
But I also have to tell you when you said that earlier about
Koreans and wanting their yeah, you know, I told you the story when I was at the comedy store once
I just set a Korean actor. I'm not gonna name who he is. Just say it. No, I'm not
Okay, they don't want to start a war with them and he pulls me aside and he goes
I have to tell you you're
You're a disgrace, you know, I mean, fuck start the war
Because you know on stage I'm a little I'm like I like to use the word edge lord
I'm very edge lord on stage and he just didn't like the topics and you know, I mean, I did a bit about
You're you're you're taking us back 10 years. You're a disgrace to the race
Yeah, and all that kind of stuff and I was just kind of like no, but you know what I took that as because I know how he dresses
Yeah, I know what kind of music he listens to, you know, I mean, I know the kind of people hanging out
He's just not my vibe, right, you know, I mean, what do you care then?
I know, but it's just what I'm saying is is that you're the same kind of Korean
I am I feel like right take that part out. We're the same kind of people
We're like I could like that vibe. Yeah, I was trying to tell you. Yeah Korean all this shit
We could do that, but it's you meet certain people and you're like, oh, that's a human. Yeah, he's outside of the predispri
Dislike prescribed role. Hmm. Like you're operating outside of the fucking
Projection of what we're supposed to be like that's huge and that's what I'm saying
That's that's what you've played with which is why probably that guy
Fearfully said that dumb ass shit to you. Yeah, because he was scared. That's your that's your Asian hate PSA right there
We were sitting at that restaurant mcafe and if you saw him and I'm like, don't don't don't look
Yeah, because I like show the
Yeah, yeah, because this is you know, it's fine
during
During the LA riots. Yeah, like I remember like my dad's friend this Korean guy and you know
Like we were like outraged our entire community had burned down. Yeah
And then so people like I was like, I got to say something and he goes don't do that. That's what n words do
right like that like we
We don't like
There's this feeling of like if we say the wrong thing or we get too loud. We're gonna get sent back
So you're a little bit too loud on stage
Right. You're the guy he done his he does do diligence to become that kind of
Asian and then here's this guy and everyone's looking at him go wait, you guys are related in the same
Oh, oh, so what you do reflects back on him
And he didn't like that. Yeah, and and to go back to just I want to finish the Filipino thought. Yeah
I wanted to know like why are you guys here? And she said they said what you just said because there's none of us
There's nothing. He's like I go, but what about the scratch pickles and I like
You know, kubernetes. I go. What about they're like, look, there's nothing. I mean, I mean, that's why joe koi is making
Right so much. They go they go for us. It's a vac. There's nothing. Yeah
So we look up to we'll take what we can get we'll take a
Dave cho or bobby lee or you know like and I was like I'll take it obsessed with
With tiny bits of Filipino blood like there's an Olympian named Natalie Coughlin. She's a swimmer. She's very white passing. She's amazing
Yeah, but the fact that I grew up
Knowing that she was even a quarter Filipino made me rally for her so hard if there is a contestant on american idol
If there's anywhere if it's nicole scherzinger or shea mitchell or anybody with just a little bit
We memorized those names and we adore them and
And we adore koreans. We just adore anyone that might
Sound a little bit like us or feel a little bit like babe marcelito pomoe
I know marcelito pomoe. So there's this guy this pissed me off
There's this guy named marcelito pomoe. Look him up. He was in america. No
america's got talent, but like the the champion. Yeah, right
this dude can sing like a beautiful lady
And a man at the same time, right?
And
The second show he did simon cowell goes
Yes, seeing it done it like you need to impress me more and i'm like, bitch
He just did something that none of these motherfuckers could ever fucking do
How dare you even say that shit, right? Anyway, I have to defend marcelito pomoe. Please do tiger belly
I mean the running theme and everything i'm saying today is basically it's like
Just make it yourself. Yeah, I learned so much today. Stop asking for permission
Stop going to the gate like just hey, please master sir. Can you let me in the door?
Just make your own door. I'm not doing a three-hour podcast
Don't do it. We're almost there. I've been trying to end this
This i'm not three hours. Yeah, I do an hour. Hey, I know what you're trying to do
Why don't you yell at this guy?
Because he hasn't done anything to piss me off and I was trying to end it and he came
I'm not afraid of him. I'll yell at him if he pisses me off. He's stretching this shit out to three hours. He's not
He's not
It was he was a surprise. That's all i'm like
That's a pretty good-looking postmix and then I go
What the fuck is he doing in my house and I go, oh, it's steven. You it was just a surprise, but um, I have to say this though
Um, you guys keep pronouncing my last name wrong
Yes
Have you too?
It's it's
Yeah, it's yun. It's yun. Yeah, you fucking fake career
I'm Filipino. I'm Filipino
I'm Filipino
It's okay. No, no, I need to defend myself. I'm sorry
I need to defend myself right when people are saying it though like
You know when you see a show and people say your name at all you see white people say your name
You just kind of go like oh, that's how you say it like, you know, um, yohana young chechek
Yeah, right. Yeah, I say it that way because that's the way joe rogan says it
Right, but it's probably not the right
Stop going off all white people
Like you answered your own question. I know hey if you feel if you yun, I feel the same thing
Yun when you feel when you see Asian people pop up in like mainstream media and you feel that like
That thing. Yeah, so then what do you feel when you see star wars?
There's only there's only three Asians, right?
Yeah, the two kung fu masters in rogue and then and then rose in the last one. Yeah, so can you enjoy the movie or?
Or do you feel threatened at all or any of that stuff?
What do you mean?
You just said like when I saw walking dead and I like I normally I I felt you know with rose
Yeah, I felt sympathy
Hmm
not because like because
Um, I thought she's great first of all that she I thought she was
Amazing in the movie, right?
And um, she was another person that when I saw her I'm like, oh, that's great. She's so cute, you know
And she's also great in the movie. You can tell she's a great actress
And I just felt sympathy afterwards when the movie came out and stuff, you know, I mean, um
And I would defend her to the end of time and I just fucking
She got ripped apart for that movie movie. There's a lot of people. There's a lot of asian americans
um, and I'm only speaking about asian americans because
you know
tiger belly, but
uh
Where they're put in situations
That are extremely difficult to break through the prism of what the expectation of what they're supposed to be like
Kelly Kelly got
Just shoved into the deep end like when I think about it like looking from afar. I'm like wow. She just got shoved into
The bible
Yeah, you know and then was like
That's why I couldn't that's why I couldn't enjoy the bible
I was like I was like a clan member leaving that movie. I walked out and I was like
They need to keep star wars white like no really. Yeah, I was like I can't enjoy it because
I'm watching star wars, which I love and I want to enjoy the movie and then all of a sudden I see an asian i'm like
Oh, fuck. Here's here's all this weight now of what this
Person of color is supposed to and if they get it wrong then it's like it's like just can I just enjoy it the way
I enjoyed it when I was a kid and just
You're seeing it wrong. Um, the second movie, right wasn't directed by JJ Abrams, right? The second movie was terrible
Right. It was the way it was executed
The whole movie you can't you can't tell me that that movie was good. I actually didn't watch them
Yeah, there's a scene I watched I watched the first one that Kelly was in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was that number two?
That was number two. No, she was the first one. Yeah. Yeah, I just watched the first. Yeah
Well, maybe my cut that out. I think my point's wrong then
I'm sorry
I just mean like I mean like outside the boundaries of that literal film itself
Yeah, but just the meta of the reality of like that pressure by the community the expectations of like
The American majority gaze on like what a person like that is supposed to be the gatekeepers like
Just everyone wanting to project on to Kelly
an expectation
is
Fucking painful and people don't realize what that feels like. That's why you just got to make your own star wars
I know, but what I'm we almost did didn't we Dave but what I'm saying what I'm dynasty
Long dynasty, so I'm gonna end it now. I'm not doing it unhelpful advice. What the fuck?
No, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it because I know what you're trying to I know what you're trying to do
And you're not going to do it. Can I say something Gilbert?
Gilbert Gilbert, I am a turn it off. I'm a fan of tiger belly. Yeah, why don't why don't you leave?
I want to do on a whole lot of advice
I've I've hey, how many don't fucking go anywhere. Bobby. Bobby. Just sit through this. Come on. How are you through?
Oh
He'll take a drag and then come back
I for for me as a fan of the show
That's what I look forward to the at the end. It feels weird to just
Yeah, we have to go off half cocked and blue bald like that
What?
Oh, okay, that's fine. We don't have to do it. I I I'm a fan of unhelpful advice
I like I like
I wanted to end this thing. Yeah, I'm ending it. I I'm not I'm done
Okay, but I'm going to let you know that I'm going to do a 10 minute unhelpful advice and I'm done do a 10 minute
Okay
Why are you yelling at me? I'm not yelling at you. I'm just telling you what the deal is how many times to be on your show
I'm here. Let's do the show
We'll be do we've been doing it since three fucking 30 bro. Then yell at this guy. I'm not he didn't do anything
Well, you didn't do anything wrong. He showed up and it stretched out another hour
Yell at him. I'm sorry guys. No. No. This is great, but I'm saying it's not it's Steve rude
So what is it? Oh, oh, okay, unhelpful advice with bobby
Unhelpful is it 300th episode? This is fucking blessed. Yeah. Yeah, this is it. This is why
This is 300 right hell. Yes
What timing I didn't even oh, it's perfect take the bow 300 times
Probably like a 12 hours or something. Do you know how many hours that is talking? It's a lot. It's a lot
You're gonna shut the fuck up. I know
I see the same things over and over
over again
I gotta get the fuck out of here, man
Yeah, it's like go do it. Okay. I guess we're talking. I don't want to interrupt. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah
Unhelpful advice with bobby kalyla steven you and david
Wow
Yon, dude, yon, yon, yon, yon, dude. What the fuck is god?
I think just fuck. It's not a bit. It's not a bit. There's someone's name. Let's do it again and do it again
Dude, come on man. He's done. Unhelpful advice. That was hard for him
You know what's funny? I had to say his name a million times because we were from the same improv group to sell our show
I had to talk about him as an alumni. I think our whole group said, did you know that you guys were the same? Yeah. Yeah
Uh, all right. Here's the question. You were right
Don't forget
Of the same thing. Yeah, just start. Yeah. Yeah, go unhelpful advice with bobby kalyla steven
yon
Yeah
And david
Go and do that. All right. That was the hardest part. You're fired. We're going. Okay. Thank you
Hello to see him do that live. Hello. I'm a musician and my
Doctor and therapists have said to me that my mental health is deteriorating
Now that I've been diagnosed with depression
antisocial personality disorder and avoidant personality disorder
My parents know this. Yeah, I was like
My parents noticed and I've been avoiding them too. I lost most of my friends
I'm not in a good place mentally. So it's hard for you to make new ones
However, my music that has been created while feeling like this has become my best work yet
It lights a fire under me and I don't know if that's healthy
What should I do sacrifice my mental well-being for the sake of the music and art?
Or should I try to be better mentally before I do anything else? That's a that's what do you guys think?
I'm 18. That's a that's a story that I told myself for a long time. Like
Yeah, it's like, you know when I first got you know when I got sober right there
There I was like
Is that is gonna make me funny? You know, I mean, it's like
Yeah, I mean it's
You know one has nothing to do with the other right I think
I mean for me. I was a diehard like I would beat that drone of like
Every artist every musician everyone I respect that their career
Is like the most fucked up person and that's that narrative, right? It's like this
Like you must suffer to be a great artist. You must be suicidal to be funny
You must you must be the most fucked up and that's just all I heard. That's all I looked up to and
you know
You know my
Thousands of hours of therapy. They're like you fucking say that a lot all this you say the same shit over and over
It's like for someone who's like so innovative and creative
You're you're a coward
You're a coward
like
Like all these bore like it's a boring story and I fucked up and I cut my ear off and I did and then I and then I died and
It's it's kind of boring. It's like I go
So exactly what this kid said, but then if I am healthy and I love myself and I'm
Mentally not deteriorating and thriving
Then my art's gonna suck. They're like that's a story
And and it might be true
But why not
As someone who's brave and not a coward. Why don't you challenge that?
so today
You know besides me being a little bit upset at myself for yelling at you because I didn't want to do that
I this is
I'm 45 this is the happiest I've ever been in my life. I have peace in my life
You know things can set me off, but then I I have peace and this is the best art
You know and you could say that's of course you're gonna say that but to me
And you know I have thousands of paintings that no one's ever seen I have podcasts that no one's ever heard like I said I have
over 20 hours of tiger belly that I recorded by myself
which
I have it if you guys want it. It's sound I believe you
It's it's the same but I believe you George. It's me yelling at Calila
I did it and I was like this is gonna be good
and then you know so
I I
I don't have the answer, but
Dude like come on man. Like you're gonna stay sick
for
And and that's the thing is I bet his music is
You know like the chili peppers, right? They got to all be junkies and it's like the day they all got um sober
They made blood sugar sex magic, which is like to me their best album
So that whole story of like oh, I got to stay in this like
fucked upness
like and and comedy is like
You know it's funny, right? But the world of comedy is so dark
Right. It's so dark and it's like
And so I always need examples show me show me the person that's healthy. That's also funny
And it's like well, maybe they don't exist. Maybe you got to be the first one
Maybe you got to be the so this guy. Maybe he's got to be the first one. Maybe he doesn't have an example
So maybe you you know rock your own shit, you know inspire yourself
I think as a companion to that what you're saying is like
sobriety
Has nothing to do with with
Understanding that there's not one single way to do something that there is something unique
Like individually about what he himself per like possesses
That needs to be expressed and you don't have to be fucked up to do that like
So variety doesn't mean you do it like
traditionally
I don't know if that made sense what I'm saying
Wait, do you believe that?
What do you still believe you need to be fucked up to be funny? No, okay
That's what I'm saying. No, I feel like there's a party that still believes that. No. Oh my god. This guy
I'm just saying like this guy. It's this guy. It's like it doesn't it doesn't
It just doesn't stop but with this guy, but um
No, I don't believe that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, and let's suppose I can't ask you questions also. Let me also and if it does
And if it does it doesn't matter because I'd rather be this
You know what I mean? Even even
You've done like 20 burpees today
Anyway, so that what you know that right there was um
What did I say every time you invited me on to you said come you better come do my show
You said you would eventually do it. No, I said you're gonna regret it
I don't regret so now we're at the end. Do you regret it? I think that this was one of the best ones I've ever done
I regret
I don't think you do I do you why do you regret it because I guys were gonna we're gonna have the best off-camera hug
I know it's gonna be great. It's gonna be so good. It's gonna be no honestly
I truly believe that this was a dream come true this whole thing
You know when I found out that you even said I wonder if you tell me like five days ago
That day was yeah, maybe a week ago. Yeah, I was like are you sure? Yeah
Because and I was so excited. I was like that's perfect
You know and and the the sugar on top was steve steven yun coming here
yun gilbert and um
This was a really organic
Magical thing and I I actually you know I changed I really do believe that I think you got to him
I think you really did get to me. Look at his face. It looks lighter. Dude. I mean we said we said we were just like man
If we can just dump praise
on bobby
And make him cry that'd be awesome
I was like he's not gonna hear it. Yeah. Yeah gonna get uncomfortable. No. No. I shut us because you opening that way
Connects to me. So I appreciate that. You know what I mean? Like that's for me, too
Wow, that's from my consumption as well. Yeah, but that phase of the podcast is over
We did it
We got past it. I'm no longer there
Right. Wait, I'm I'm at the end part of the fucking thing. Where are we gonna eat? I don't I'm so hungry though, man
I'm hungry too
My brother doesn't have a car. How's he gonna get I should pick him up
Yeah, get him a uber
Get him a uber or let's eat near near him
Okay, I have a car. Um, you want to go to k-town?
Steve lives in k-town. No, I can pick him up if we go to k-town
What do you want to go choson parks? Are you are you gonna eat with us? Yeah, I'll come eat with you guys
Let's go to parks. I love park. Do you like parks? Yeah, I love parks
It'll be fucking dope. Let's go to parks. Hey, we're on the wall there
Hey
All right, wait, are you not on the wall? He's telling them we're both on the wall. We put ourselves up there remember
Oh, wait, but are you?
No, wait, are you that's fucked up. Wait, you're getting on the wall. Are you not on the wall?
I went in there. Oh my god. He's gotta be no. I went in there
I know what it is. No, we're on the wall. You know who's on the wall? Slipknot is you need to be on the wall
Slipknot is on the wall
I'm looking at all these stories
Wait, wait, just slipknot have their masks on or off off so they recognize
Slipknot would drop their masks on before Bobby
That's fuck. No, you need to be on the wall now. No, our a fan put
After that, they took it down, right? No, you need to right. So when you go in, it's directly to the right when you first walk in
I just I was just there. We're on the wall. We put ourselves on the wall
Hey, you got to do it yourself. Yeah, yeah
All right, so, um, thank you so much everybody
I
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