TigerBelly - Ep 364: Bobby & Shakewell are Wavelength Boys
Episode Date: September 7, 2022Bobby is an Imagineer. Shakewell has a clapback army. We talk animatronic Cosby, touring in a metalcore band at 15, ship jumping, and going to f*** island on day 2. Please support our sp...onsors.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Take well don't say anything to bring your name up. Yeah, yeah, yeah
Five four three two
Anyway welcome, you know, I feel free. I feel good. I
Realize I'm a 50 year old fat man out there in the dating world. I
Do man, it hurts me, you know, you get on these dating sites and you meet you get other googly monsters going
You know me let's get googly together and it's like I'm not gook
Yeah, I'm gook, but I'm a googly. Yeah, googly. Yeah, I'm googly, you know, but um, I think I'm gonna be
Celebit and a hermit from now on that's good, you know, mountaintop. Yeah, you know, you can see me in the temple
I can't see you in a temple. Yeah, you can you're too much of a made out of porcelain
You think I'm a fuck machine bro, dude, dude, but the machine doesn't last for like more than 30 seconds
You got a good two years of fuck machine. It's like you turn it. I go
And then it turns off sizzles. Yeah, it's sizzles, you know, but the machine's broken back back in the day though
Used to be a three-minute machine now 30 seconds. Let's go. Yeah, and then this awful juice comes out
It's like steel-cut oatmeal organic, it's organic
Imagine a tube of this machine. I just I just squirts out chunks chunks chunks. Yeah, and it's not and mostly not come
Oh, it's still can probably skin from the inside and fatty like fat. Yeah mixed in would come some blood actual oatmeal. Yeah
So anyway, um
We have a great guest today
Before I say I don't say I want to tell you how I met him
So I was shooting these move. I'm shooting this movie. I just wrapped. I can't tell you what the movie is called
All right, there's like they're like keep it quiet fuck it
We don't know when it's gonna come. I may never come out, but
When I showed up the reason why I did it was they were like Theo Vaughn's and you know, he's a friend
He hit you up too. They hit me up
I kind of knew the director
Then they're like Johnny Knoxville. I've never met Johnny before I want to get to meet him
So there was all these little, you know check marks. I'm like, I'll do it
I'll do it because of these reasons, but what you don't realize is you're really there to meet other people
Other creatures, you know in mythology googly's right like in the lower the rings
You know, I like to talk about the lower the rings when they're in the minds of Moria
You didn't know those little goblins were gonna come down the thing
Thousands of them, right? And basically I met a fat goblin. Oh, wow
I made a fact, you know, I mean, you don't think you were gonna meet fat goblin
You don't think they were fat in the movies. They're not that fat, right? But you know
You said fat goblin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I met a couple. I met Gaeta who works with
What's his name? Oh
Dave, what's the guys now do the podcast with? Oh, send Andrew Santino. Yeah. Yeah, you forgot to
We all you guys all forgot to so I met him, but then I met this other guy. He's here right now
But I looked at I'll go what the fuck is this shit?
You know, I mean like in what God's name is going on around this town
You know, and I go, what's your name? He goes? My name is shake. Well, and I googled him real quick
You know, I mean, and he has some creds. You know, I mean, I saw him act
I'm like this guy's pure magic, you know and talk about fuck machine give shake well a round of applause everybody. What's up, baby?
baby
Did you like me right away?
Yeah, you're one of the reasons I was down. What do you mean?
So when they said my name like I saw the list of actors. Yeah, and I'm like kind of how you said I'm like
I want to meet Bobby Lee
Wow, really? And when you did I disappoint you? No, no, because you know when you meet someone is like odds better. I didn't
Yeah, yeah, I bet those I was fucking hyped you were hype. Yeah. Yeah, and why I
Think I think you're a great person, you know, but also yeah, man
Also the humor the humor and the freedom
See, that's what you and I are true Americans. Yeah, you know what because we get the word freedom
Yeah, right and what I mean by that is you'll meet somebody like you and go oh if we were on
If we were deserted on an island. Mm-hmm. We'd fuck on day two freedom
Freedom, baby, right America. How long would it does the thing is like especially being a rapper. I'm supposed to be like
Super super. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that. You won't want the other way. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, what I like about him too is is what I mean by freedom is this is
Let's talk about Johnny Knoxville. Yeah, you know, he's great. I think great killed it in the mood, right?
He turned on a different side. Yeah, you don't like what you think he can do. Yeah
When you watch him, you're like, oh, this dude can legitimately act
Yeah, but you know, he's the star of the movie. So he had a lot going on
So in the beginning was he was a little distant. I think you're trying to find the character. That's right. Yeah, right
But then so when I but when when I remember our freedom is when you and I met
Immediately, we didn't talk much
But we would smile. Mm-hmm. Yeah, right. Yeah, like we would sit next to each other. I look at you
I was like a wavelength. Oh, dude, right? Whoa. It was a wavelength. What do you think that wavelength is?
I don't know, but you just said fat goblin and I just been watching the new
Rings of power like dude. When'd you see it? I watched it last night. I did too. Yeah
Yeah, you saw the rings of power last night last night both episodes. I did both episodes or so, too
Maybe wavelength time. We're on the same fucking wavelength, bro. I
Drunk off to last night. No, I didn't jerk off. Did you ejaculate? I was with my girlfriend. Did you ejaculate?
Yeah, yeah, well, I ejaculated too. His was different, but he's still yeah
We still both ejaculate it. Yeah, you know, man, maybe at the same time. Did you breathe a lot? I breathe a lot
Yeah, I think so much yesterday. I think you're a wavelength boy. Dude, we're way wavelength, bro
Cuz like I'll do that. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do that with my homies when sling similar happens. I'll be like a wavelength boys, right?
I think you're a wavelength like you and I will could finish each other sentences. Yeah, like yeah and sandwiches
Almost got it. Oh, that's right both sentences and sandwiches. I was thinking sandwiches
Like if I was eating a pastrami sandwich, yeah, you would finish it. Yeah, fuck yeah
100% 100% did you like it the load of the ring? I thought it was tight. I thought it was tight cuz I
Don't know. It's not I didn't read the books or anything. Yeah, I can tell growing up, but I can tell
What does that mean? Have you let me be on have I ever read a book be honest all the way through
Yeah, there we go. Yeah, like clockwork orange. I love that book. I couldn't finish it just cuz you know, there's a movie
There's a movie. Yeah, the books way more fucked up too. It is. Yeah, why didn't you finish it lazy?
Well, I have to reread things like sometimes I have to read a page three times to
Comprehendent. Yeah, I'm the same way and then I'm like fuck
Yeah, yeah, they say I have that you have that. Yeah, what else do you have?
Okay, so the doctors told me I had that and that's all my parents told me because I think they didn't want me to use it as like
An excuse, you know, yeah, yeah, and then one day I'm with like this educational therapist and she's like
She's like the cool lady that understands understands like fucked up kid
She's like, oh, I work with like kids who do graffiti and this and that you know, yeah, like a freedom writers type lady
Yeah, and fucking
She's like, let's pull your file and he said it said 80 HD. Yeah, it's like so yeah
Whoa, some other shit, but they tried saying I had attention deficit hypo disorder shit not hyper
Yeah, what's the difference? They said it means I'm very lazy, and I don't give a fuck
And I'm like, I think that's I think you made that they were saying hippo, baby. Maybe hippo your shape. I could I could see
That's mean sorry, but but is it it's not it's not that's why the wave like that
That's why when I said that I knew I could say that and not make you get mad
I was in the studio once with my homie Nick. Mm-hmm. And yeah, shout out for Nick and I
Was like, what do you think about this? He's like that's just ass and my friend would like pause the song
He's like
Don't how dare you say that to him. I was like, what do you say? Like what do you say that was wrong?
Yeah, he's like he said that that was ass. I was like, I didn't know it was mean. Oh, yeah, you know
Yeah, we have the same we don't know what's mean or not. We don't know where the lines are
You could tell a certain mean like with most shit. It's like come on, you know, dude, that's right
So they're just being straight up. Yeah, it's like, you know, if you they're hanging me
Right, who's a bunch of who's they?
them them no like, you know
Mysterious, no, like, you know, like one of those groups the like right wing groups
Oh, I don't want to call them out because I don't want to get in trouble proud boys. Okay, my trouble
Oh, let's go 1800s Japanese people. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, let's go back. Yeah, forget the proud boys
Let's go past. Let's go in the past. Let's keep it. They're dead and they did bad things. They did bad thing
Okay, let's suppose it's but what I was gonna say though, it wouldn't make any sense with Japanese people
Let's try it. Oh, I'll try it if there was 1800
Japanese people during the occupation of Korea is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah, and they were hanging me and they were going
You gook
That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, right. I would just be like you're a gook. Yeah. Yeah, so that's why it didn't work
It's funny though. It is funny. That would it wouldn't be as offensive. No, no, no, no
Yeah, you're ching chong you gonna die. Yeah, I'd be like what you're
Right so anyway, but you're right. It's like it depends on what the intentions. Yeah, right. Yeah, what's the worst thing you've been called me?
Mm-hmm. I don't think it was a word. I saw comment. Oh
I was I was talking about I was talking about like my acne was really bad when I was doing drugs and I was like
Drinking more water to get my skin back, right? You know, like everyone do the same
And and I saw comment said you'll be dead by August
This was like two years ago. So ha ha
haha
haha
Now we're now in September this year. Yeah, so fuck you do the math. Yeah count the days I won
You won that. Yeah, but it said you'll be dead by August and that I was like, okay. Oh
Wait, I know. I know it's it's like maybe like a fan reaching
Get my attention or some shit. Yeah, that that was that bumped you out
That was sharp and specific
Wait, wait, some random fan told you that in August it's the apocalypse or you're dead
He'll be you will be dead by August or you specifically me. I
Posted a selfie. I looked real good. Just got like my hair done confident
Yeah, yeah, and I had some acting. I'm like gonna get my skin back, right drink more water. Yeah
Positive now during August. Were you extra careful? I
Know I think I forgot
You forgot yeah, you were high. Yeah, yeah, and then and here I am
Yeah, I think and I think he deleted the comment
Cuz I didn't I I
There was one time I said a comment where the dude like you could tell they rethought life
Because I wasn't like fuck you. I was like I said something really like good, you know
Yeah, and like their whole shit. They took down their Instagram or something. Yeah, but I think my fans clap back
Oh for you. I think my sister too. Oh, you're sit. You have an army chill. Yeah, people will go in there
And they'll be like, what's clap back me? I want to yeah, like like they'll attack back for me
We're I didn't have to say anything. It was like fuck you, dude, you know fuck you
Because if I say something they'll be like, oh dude reply to just one, you know, all right
Yeah, it's hard to reply on yourself because then you feel like you're wounded. They know you're wounded. Yeah, right?
Yeah, we got to keep it chill. Yeah, right. So you have your army do it for you. Exactly. Fuck. Yeah, dad
Yeah, now you grew up in Arizona. No valley
Where'd you get that? Why do I think you were from Arizona? I
Don't know. Arizona got brought up at some point
Just in conversation
Do you have family in Arizona? Yeah, okay, but that's how I
Know no fuck you guys. I love it. No, here's the thing
You said you were from Arizona. No
But you didn't bring up any Arizona
Who how did Arizona come up in the conversation? Only time I heard Arizona was why did someone ask you?
Why does your family live in Arizona? It was about you. It was about me and then I thought shake shake shake was my family
Yeah, shake. Well, that's why it was let's go. They're so close already
I felt so close to you that I just made I put you in that category. Yeah, that location. Yeah. Yeah, you grew up in the valley
Yeah, oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, and so you grew up what poor? No rich. No, not poor middle-class
Yeah, my dad my dad worked for Disney
They fucked they fucked them over hard. What wait, can I just say something when you say Disney?
It could mean millions of things. He was an imagineer. He wasn't whoa. What's an imagineer? That's like a made-up title
It's like, you know, but imagineers like some of them build the ride some of them come up with ideas Dean Park
Some of them draw bullshit. I
Assumed that he was at the fucking popcorn thing
Was that we'll just add a kiosk or something. Oh, yeah. Yeah, when you say all my dad worked it isn't yeah
Yeah, you couldn't mean anything. He was dressed up as goofy or something. Yeah
He's an imagineer yeah imagine yeah, and so he imagined he was a creative guy
Yeah, like he he would have to like oh we want to sell it. We want to get them to
Put the budget down for this ride. He would be like
Imagine, you know, you're in a tunnel and like, you know, he would like tell me the ride before it come out
Wow, I remember I'd as a kid. I'd be like, oh, you know, yeah, yeah, he did some badass shit
I feel like you and I
Since you're the son of an imagineer. Yeah, I believe you and I could create a ride
Yeah, right now a hundred percent. Yeah, how does it start the ride? Yeah, probably, you know
You never see a ride where you start off on your belly
No, that would be interesting that would be interesting. So you and I flat it's a two-man ride. We're on her belly
Right. Yeah, what's the theme of it?
Something we've never heard of before well
They have that one ride where you where you go up at six flags and then you fly like a dragon, but that's not on your belly
Yeah, I see they did. Yeah, the mechanics will put you your bellies to the earth. Yeah, I'm talking about a flat bed
Yeah, that way anyone can fit too. I like that. Right. We'll make it like a double-wide. Yeah
Yeah, like a super king-size bed. Maybe maybe it's like you ever like watch TV on your on your belly
Yeah, and you have to do this. The ride locks your arms in like that
Yeah, you want to get apart? I want this to be called wavelength boys the wavelength wavelength, right? I love it
Yeah, so we're on our bellies. Yeah
Put our hands in a thing. Yeah, and and when all right, they're locked in they go
Yeah, and we earn the cheeks
Right, I like no we're on our belly. I like that right and then there's you know, what's in front of us more like in
1970s
television
At first. Yeah, like we're what we're two kids and they make we we have to make people wear pajamas
I love that. That's only it work
Yeah, I mean like it's you're lying down in bed. You're laying down in bed. You're locked in like that
Yeah, right and then you know me. We're you're wearing pajamas
Okay, and then are we watching the same thing or do they tell us we're watching different things and at the end?
Obviously, we just cut costs. Yeah. Yeah, we should just fucking be watching the fucking same thing
Okay, cut cost. Well, I was saying we're pajama. Maybe they tell you we're watching different things
But we're not and then you think it was a wavelength at the end, you know, like oh
Oh shit my bad. I didn't know you're like we saw the same thing away. Oh
Wow, yeah, yeah, we're watching different things. Yeah, that's good
Dude small black because I would out. Yeah, it's very black mirror
But what I was thinking is is that the TV would go down. Yeah, we're both thinking that we were watching a TV
Yeah, right and then the ride starts and go through
And then there's something else a tunnel and it's shaped like what the tunnel like an
An asshole. Yeah. Yep. It could be an asshole. Could it be I think so who's asshole?
Roseanne bar
Exactly like it's an 80s TV thing. Oh, that's I got 80s TV nightmare
Roseanne bars butthole, right? So it's all like oh, I got it. I got it. We're on the right
We think we're watching like, you know me leave it to beaver
Yeah, asshole, and you hear a laugh
Roseanne bar, right? And it's your asshole, right? And it goes we go in, right? We enter, right?
And then there's animatronics the first animatronics if you can smell there's like a mist like 4d
Yeah, 4d. You want a 4d this shit? Yeah, what does it smell like? I mean you go there. I don't know
I don't know you go there. I'm not going there. I honestly don't know who's Ram Roseanne bar, but wait, wait, wait
Wait, we're not on the same wavelength right now. No, no, you don't know who Roseanne bar is
Maybe maybe I have to look at her face. She was on the show called Roseanne. Oh
That's Roseanne. I didn't know her last name. Yeah
Yeah, that's Roseanne. I didn't know Roseanne bar. Oh, that's my bad. George, that was my bad. If you said Roseanne, I'd be like, oh, yeah, Roseanne
Yeah, yeah, okay. Are we so it's gonna smell like are we back? Oh, let me ask you something. Yeah, we're back. Are we back on the way?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Now we're back
Because you the last name all right last name to me. Oh my bad
You know what dude? I'll leave out last names
Cool from now on I will leave out last names. All right. Oh, yeah. So then what so what does it smell like?
I mean, it could smell like like fresh butthole or
Because she doesn't have a fresh one. We want people to come back. But you know, yeah, oh, that's right. There's kids probably. Yeah, maybe it's maybe it's like
Maybe it sounds like baby baby powder or baby wipes. That's it. That's what she cleans with. Yeah
Yeah, I can see it still also alludes to something went down there. Yeah, exactly, right not fresh
But yeah, but not trying to be fresh. Yeah, we're going the middle. Yeah, okay
So we walk in and there's a gigantic animatronic of
Bill yeah
Because I'm not gonna say the last name with a big
Now I need you to say
The wavelength worse. Yeah, I want to see I want to describe the animatronics
If you can if I like this game, I like this. Okay, it's a large animatronic of a man named Bill
He's wearing a sweater. Yeah, right
He's where you got it right. That's what I see if you get khaki pants, right?
He has some sort of like, you know, what did the doctors use with the stethoscope? Yeah, stethoscope scope. Yeah, right?
It's Bill night. That's not Bill night. No, no close close Bobby a little more information. I'm getting more information
Close I'm getting but not close. I jumped the gun. Yeah, you jump you jump
Yeah
Because it's we're going to 80s theme true sitcom. Okay, right? Okay, so you know me and he has a purple pill
You know me yeah, yeah, you know me and he's going you know me. Yeah, what is he going? He's going. Yeah. Hey, hey
Wait, isn't that? It's the same guy. It's a different character different now. Yeah
Yeah, different IP different IP different IP. Who is this?
Think about sweater sweater sweater. He happens to be blood. Oh, yeah, of course fucking bill
Bill canceled. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're not gonna move on to you know the cause me
Can I use last I was just I use last name. Yeah. Thank you. I was just watching South Park
I kind of like this though. Yeah, so when you said sweater though, I clicked it together
All right, because I think he'd wear koojee sweaters and shit like that. Right. He does. Yeah, right
So would that that'd be a scary thing to see a gigantic animatronic. Don't cause me. Yeah, right? Would you scream? I?
probably be I
Probably screamer life. Oh
You and I laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, cuz we're like this make mine too. Yeah
We're going past and we're going we're gonna run into this guy. Yeah, the pill you think we have our mouths open
You think you think no, he's gonna throw the pill in our mouth. Oh, yeah, got you. Maybe there's an apparatus
It keeps your mouth open
What it lands and lands in our mouth. Oh, you they really do throw a purple pill in your mouth
But it's candy. It's candy. Is it candy or the real thing?
Yeah, let's think about this thing. We're imagineeers. We're imagine as in a corporate office and we're a corporate office
I
Think our lawyers are there. He's like, I don't think so guys. Yeah. Yeah, but they were probably bunch of hippies back then, too
Though so maybe they're like with the game the right is now though. Yeah, okay. Yeah, we're not doing the right in the 80s
Okay, yeah, yeah, it's a nostalgic. Yeah, right. So I think no lawyers. It's such you know, they'll be like I think that's again
So it's just candy. It's candy. Yeah, it's like an M&M. Yeah, it's like an M&M candy
Yeah, but it's shaped like a like a pill a pill. Yeah, okay. Very good. Yeah, right
So we we go goes in our mouth and we giggle, right? We whiz past him and then what do we see? We see
You first names only we use only
Yeah, yeah, we go
We see a bar. Okay. Oh, we see a bar
Interesting, right? Yeah, and we see here just in the distance. Hey Norm
Hey Norm, right?
What show am I talking about?
Fucking
Bar no, you're talking about that one show. It's a bar. Everybody meets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is a fun game
No, you come on you come on. I'm telling myself. Oh
That was meant for me. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, you know, it's a bar that song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
When everybody knows your name
Right and you know
You know Woody Halerson's and we're not there at Dan's end. We're not there at the bar. We'll go to the bar, right?
And it's it starts with the s see. I mean, I see
Yeah, C H
Maybe that's what comes out of C first age
Felling it out. E. E. Cheers. Yeah
And then everyone starts cheering. Yeah, everyone starts cheering. Oh, okay. We're safe now. We're safe now. No, we're not safe because
We're not safe because our mouths are open and they're squirting beer in our mouth. Oh shit. Yeah, because to wash down the roof. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
So you like that. I like that movie and or M&M
Maybe you should come up with the next phase of the ride the beers kicking it in because I want to see if he knows any shows
Let's see if you could do it, right? First names only
Yeah, yeah, so we go around a corner and then and if you don't know the show just make up a show, okay
You'll figure it out. Yeah, yeah, we go around the corner
Yeah, we see stranger things
Wait, wait, we see
Wait, what do we we see straight that's that all right? We see oh
You know so we go around the corner and we see ET
Okay, okay, not a not a TV show
Yeah, but a movie. I like it. You know what we'll do movies as well. We switch the channel. Oh, oh
Type, you know, yeah type of thing. Yeah. Yeah, and we're yeah
It's TV and because obviously you would watch to ET on the on the TV screen. Yeah as a kid with your friend
Yeah, right and then what happens we see ET and then what is what is one of his lines takes his finger?
He takes his finger and he's like pointed at us. Yeah, and you accidentally maybe like it's your eye
Oh, sorry. No, no, I like it. Don't don't
Keep going. Don't don't play yourself. Pick our nose. All right. Yeah, so we're going. How fast are we going?
This is a I think it's a fast ride or it's made to feel fast fast. You know what I mean through wind
So it's a fan. No, so yeah through fans. Yeah, right? Or maybe there's like screens to like
It's like using past like half animatronics half fucking
3d screen. Oh, yeah, so what you're saying is we're only going one mile per hour possibly possibly
Like have you been on those rides where you're sitting down, but you're like moving through it. Yes, cuz it's yeah
Yeah, yeah, but how do you I don't because we have animatronics. Yeah, right and we also have
You know me and no we gotta be moving through we have to be moving through right
So the ET finger sticking out there
Maybe the right slows down or we just go full on 80 miles per hour into a fucking finger in the eye. Yeah, and
Then it opens up right into like the cosmos now now what?
Shit start right, you know
It just ships right away. Yes start right next generation. I love it. You know, yeah, and name me a character. Oh
Okay, yeah, you're talking to the master. Yeah, right here anybody. Oh, you're a Trekkie. Yeah. Oh, yeah
I'm not I know anything. Just start trick anything. You were in the cosmos. Yeah. Yeah, what do you see wavelength boys?
Come on. What's his name? Make a guess make a guess. What is they fucking? Yeah with the fucking thing, right? Yeah, it's weird-ass head
Yeah, there we go. Yeah, his name is what?
Here's race maybe he's his race. Yeah. Yeah, just make it up fucking the
Tallendathans
You know, wait, was it the Tallendathans? Tallendathans. Yeah, it rhymes. It does rhyme. We run. There's a gigantic Tallendathans. Yeah
And he's standing. He's standing there, right?
He looks like a Klingon. He looks like a Klingon
That's a Klingon, right? Yeah, okay. No, that's not a Klingon. That's a fucking Vulcan. That's the Vulcan. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we're seeing a Tallendathan
Right, but he looks like a Klingon. He looks like a Klingon. Yeah, how about this?
We do some sort of real quick, you know what I mean? That's a screen, right?
Mm-hmm. You know years ago the Klingons fucked the Vulcans and created Tallendathans. A hybrid. A hybrid. Yeah, and there's your guy there
Yeah, right. I think Star Trek fans would be like, what the fuck is this? They would get pissed.
They would get pissed. I think they would be pissed, but it's alright. And I would get shit on for coming up with that idea
But I don't care. Yeah, that's right for you. Stand your guns, right?
And then we'll go into how about this to help you out?
Let's go into immediately now if we go to a time warp. There we go. And we go into the the 90s
Is that to help you? I was born in 91. Let's go. No, let's how about the 2000s and we could do that too, right?
So now what show do we see?
We dive in and it's fucking angry beavers. Oh
Hey, I grew up on that. What's an angry now? I'm scared. Yeah, I hear a lot of walls
Well, that's why we could have gone 90s, you know, what's an angry beaver angry beaver? I tried rewatching it to see if it
Hold I feel like that's what Roseanne Barr has
Now it's symbolism, you know, oh
In front of the butthole is the angry beaver, right right across from it
That's what we do. We do a callback to the butthole in the beginning, right?
And we do a fusion between her angry beaver by the end this show angry beavers. That's what it's like. It's Norbert and Dex, right?
Yeah, Norbert and Dex. So yeah, I was just watching it to see if it's still held up. Is it does it hold up?
Um, I didn't really think so and then my homie was like
He was like what he was like
Like he was loving it. Yeah, it was he high and I was like, no
I was just like that's his normal laugh. No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I felt though
I was like am I missing something right because he was really into it. Yeah, and I was like, I don't know
But I don't think I like the angry beavers as a kid. Oh, you didn't like it
I remember I put it on and I'd be like, okay
I'll watch this and wait for something else to come on. Hey Arnold, right?
And maybe that's the whole theme of this this ride is
Because you know back in the day you didn't have Netflix shit. So you put something on and
And you know you you're waiting for something good to come on. Oh as a kid
You know DVR public. Was there DVR back then? No, no, no these times. I don't think no
Those times but we are going by the now. No, it's okay, dude. I think that's the end of the ride
Because we started at the butthole. Yeah, and we ended with the angry beaver, right? Her laughing at the end. Yeah, right?
We get out
How do you think you should there be an age limit to this ride? I think it should be like
I think it should be like, you know, what NC 17 the parents can decide NC 17
Yeah, if you go in with an adult, then you're good, right? Yeah. Yeah, like listen son
Like listen son listen listen, yeah, you might see me. Yeah, you can only bring me. Huh?
Wait, so I did imagine of course Mexican does a lot, right? Yeah, that's because they absolutely
Yeah, probably the only only ones that would ride it. Maybe yeah, you're only hearing me listen. Yeah, what?
Half of me fully agrees with you right now
Come half Mexico. Oh fuck. Yeah. So yeah, I'm into this ride. Yeah, I'm into it, too
You know, yeah, some Koreans would write it. We could throw in hot cheetos
Fuck yeah, dude at the end. Maybe just give you give you a bag of hot cheeto. Yeah. Yeah, and you're like, I got hot cheeto
What the fuck and you walk out. Yeah, right and do you think it will be a success? All right
Mmm, I think Universal maybe take it. They would take it and then we didn't name it. What's it? You name it the ride? Yeah
Yeah
You should be something that has nothing to do with it. Yeah, like sweet dreams. All right. Yeah, what is it?
Okay, it's kind of like I'm supporting it but hold it's too dead on yeah, you know, I mean
whole
To this this reminds me when we're trying to think of names. Yeah, we're shutting shit down
Oh, or just memory hole memory hole memory lane. No, but memory hole by the wavelength boys
Yeah, memory hole by wavelength. Oh by wavelength. That's great. Yeah, dude. That's a cool band
I was gonna say you guys should do a duo dude. Let's start a band like silk Sonic. We're memory hole by wavelength
Yeah, I'm Des Moines, Iowa. And do you remember?
Right, do you remember when I was on the piano? Yes, and we wrote a song. Yes. I forgot what the song was about
Do you know what it was about? I have it voice memo. Oh, you do but is it not not you playing it?
It's like I think me. Yeah, is it cancelable because I feel like it's cancelable. I think he was on the line
Yeah, yeah, but play it now and then we'll edit it out. I think we were we were making fun of a certain group of people
All right moving on
Bad people bad people. Oh, let's put it out. We were making fun of bad. Did you sing it on there?
I think so. It was about incels. It was about school shooters. Yeah, great
Yeah, we have to cut that out. No, no, that's a hit. We're talking shit on them. We're talking shit about incels and school shooters
Yeah, and
Everyone was looking at us going what these guys are fucking yeah, and we were probably mic'd too. We were mic'd also the sound guy
Yeah, the sound guys like oh my god. This is terrible, right? Yeah. Yeah, but we're going, you know, I mean
God every day take it to school. I might take it to school
One day yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm an incel. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and we're singing that loud
Imagine now the sound guy going these guys are fucking crazy. Yeah, I think that was the day I realized we loved each other
Yes, okay, not just that what but that fuck I got like I
Got a mic on me, you know, oh, yeah, it's so funny on this movie. There was a lot of this
So when you're we were for some reason this is the only movie I've ever done is my second one. So maybe I'm learning something here
Oh, yeah, you're gonna learn something here. Yeah, okay
I'm here to teach you
This is the first first movie where you're mic'd the whole time. Oh, yeah
Yeah, even when you're not even have lines. Yeah facts. You're right. That's facts, right? Yeah. Yeah, cuz a lot of it was like you
Might throw something out. That's funny because it's an improvised movie. They just want everyone Mike
So when even when you're going to lunch and stuff, right and you're having conversations
Everybody would be doing this because you're saying the most fucked up thing. Yeah, you don't want it recorded
So you could look around all the actors and everyone's going yeah, you know me I
Apologize one day to my mic
I said, I said, I'm sorry. It's been a long day and I know it's hard
Yeah, so if I said anything to offend any of you like I'm sorry
Yeah, and I'm sure whatever you said to me. I didn't mean it and I love you
Yeah, but it's like, you know, it's been like eight hours and it's hot just do this next time
And we're probably just getting on each other's nerves, you know, yeah, and then I don't know if anyone was listening
So if anyone's listening, I love you because that's what Christian bail
Like I think back in yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, I didn't say anything wow
No, you know, I was just like man, don't tell me that yeah, like and then and then I was like
Okay, you know, I didn't mean that yeah, and then I think I looked up and someone saw me talking to myself
But I was really talking to everyone that right right to the mic, you know
Also, I after two weeks in I kind of we're sitting in the other maybe during the softball portion
Yeah, and I put just put my hand on your leg
And you didn't flinch. Mm-hmm. Why?
um
Well, I don't want to I don't want to write off what we have as as humor. Oh, you know what I mean
Because you know, it is a type of humor, but it's also a type of
Connection, you know, that's right and come I think it's comfortability with with self, you know, that's exactly what it is
That's what I think that's because I could be like, oh, it's funny joke, but no, yeah, that'd be throwing it down
Yeah stomping on it. I think we you and I have
The same kind of boundaries exactly and I grew up
Uh
touring in a band like since 15. Wow. Let's get into that. Yeah, you grew up in north hollywood and the valley
Yeah, right
I've lived all over the valley and seno tazana north hollywood konogo west hills
Wow, because your dad was in the military
Is there a military basis in the place? He wasn't
Imagineer. He was always getting shipped off. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah
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No, we just moved a lot. Um, you moved a lot. Yeah, right
Was it a broken home like you had a mom and dad? No mom and dad. Wow always always took care of me
Um until you know, like certain age where it's like, hey
you know
Shit isn't how we how we think, you know, like I need everyone to put in on their own, you know
How many kids were there three? Okay, my brother. So he's my half-brother, but I don't I don't feel like he's my half-brother
Yeah, exactly
He's from Mexico from my mom's first marriage
He he left back to Mexico like his sophomore junior year in high school
So for a bit of it was just me and my sister, you know
but my my parents they never I never needed for anything but
They also taught me the value of a dollar a lot
Because I remember I would go out and I had friends from all sides of the tracks, you know
When I when I would go hang out with my with my like rich friends
they were like
Should go to the movie that eats sushi and they had their parents credit card
Oh, and I'm like, that's crazy. Like I had to I had to do all these chores for this 20, you know what I mean
So I think they were smart exactly exactly and I think that made me be a natural
Entrepreneur, you know what I mean? Like even though he didn't believe in it. My dad would be like music
You're gonna fail everything you're gonna fail. Yeah
And then he's like you got to graduate you'll fail and I I did the opposite and I was like prove you wrong
But yeah, so I started touring at 15. What was the band? Was it a band? Yeah, it was a band called
It was called betrayal betrayal. Yeah, and you were you is it a hip-hop?
No, no that this was like a hardcore band metal core
Well, and you played your singer I played bass and I did I would do like backup vocals live
Wow
Bass yeah, and it was called betrayal betrayal and then you guys would just go around LA and we'd go all around
We eventually went to south africa went to japan twice
Like europe like four times. Oh, so it was a real thing. Yeah, it was a real band
And like no money like I'd make like five ten dollars a day
Like per diem, you know what I mean? Oh, I see. Yeah, because one day we would be playing like a
six-show and bumfuck
nowhere and it would be sold out, you know like
200 kids, you know in a packed room and then
The next day we'd be playing a show trying to get to our next good show and there'd be fucking five drunk dudes at a bar like
Oh, you know like yeah bikers just sitting there. Oh my god. You know depressing. Yeah wild. Yeah wild
Yeah, because you go up and down and up and down, you know, did you get ladies back then?
Uh, they were there
They were there
I'm sure they were there. They were there. Yeah. Yeah. Um
Far away, but there put far away. Yeah. Yeah. They're more interested in you know at that level. There's not there's not too many
So like they're more interested in the singer
Right, you know what I mean, man. Exactly. So the bass player is probably like I'm probably second or third on the list
fourth fourth
Let's say last. All right. No third. It depends if we have two guitar players. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know
What was it? How many pieces was it? It was a singer. It was a singer guitar player. Yeah
Um, drummer drummer bass player and sometimes we'd have a second guitar player sometimes
But basically it was at the Beatles. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but one of our guitar players
My boy Sean he actually designs all my merch
Ah, it's cool. He's we're still very good homies. Good. Um
Yeah, he's killing it in the merch game. Yeah
What's the company called killer merch?
You heard of it. Oh, that's oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so you know what? Yeah
Legit. Yeah. Fuck yeah, man. Yeah. I think gate is with them too. Oh gate. I yeah dickies with them and shit. Oh, wow
Um
I brought something on gators like oh, I don't love killer merch
But anyways, my boy Sean he had that similar kind of like
like humor
You know, yeah and vibe. Yeah
And I I thought it was hilarious, you know what I mean? Yeah, a little raunchy. Yeah. Yeah
And it's weird because with some people like I can have a friend that I've known forever
Be like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, yo, you're in my personal space
Back up
But with some people
I don't know why
It feels okay. Yeah, I that it. Yeah, there are certain people that
Because you can't let everyone in no, right? You can't let the whole world in it's like that movie
We I think we talked about let the right one in. Yeah, you got to let the right one in. Did you see that movie?
We talked about we talked about it. Yeah. Yeah. It's like there was this guy
He's a nice kid
I saw him at the improv. I don't want to say his name because he's a nice funny young kid, you know
And I barely know him and he walks up and he goes, can I get a hug?
I barely I've known him three or four times, you know, man
And and it was late at night and I go
No, man. Yeah
And he's like any you could tell he was embarrassed because he had seen me do it with other people
Right, so he thought that he was and I it's just like no, we're not there
Yeah, we'll get there in a couple of years maybe
But just to presume that you're you know, I mean that you're already in my inner circle is
It's crazy. It's wild. Yeah. Yeah. He's seen me do it with like Whitney Cummings and Bert Kreischer, you know
I mean, so and he's a doorman. He's like, can I get a hug? It was just fucking weird
You know, I mean, so is that what you mean?
I think so. I mean, some people it's instant. You know what I mean? Like
Exactly like us. Yeah
Well, maybe like a couple days of staring
Well, right if we did that and then and then just like, hey
Hey, what's your penis like? Well, if you want to know, you can find out. I did actually did I ask that?
I think I said I think I said let me ask you. Did I ask that? Well, I was getting DM saying
Bobby Lee shouted you on his podcast so sick one legend recognizing another
From different worlds and I was like, oh, that's fire as fuck
and then my girlfriends like
Hey, uh, a couple of my friends have hit me up saying that Bobby Lee was talking about your boyfriend's penis
And I'm like and I'm like classic and I'm like well that that doesn't
Yeah, that makes sense. You know
Um, I think I think we were talking about
Uh, our dicks and I said, you know, mine looks like chapstick
Which is just it's just a great response. I don't know. I always does it look like chapstick? No, so good
I mean, what does it look like? It like a dick, you know, okay?
Okay, my bad. Yeah standard get dick standard dick. Yeah. Yeah, but I I think I don't know why people whenever they're like
Something about dicks. I'm like, oh, yeah, mine mine's like chapstick
And I like to see the reaction. Yeah, some of the homies, you know from the hood
Yeah, that's weird when you talk about that to some people they have that response
But some people are like and some people laugh they laugh and some people are like, wait, really? It's that small
And I'm like, no, it's with two twists
That's ah, right, right take the cap off give it to two twists and it's like the proper length the proper hit the wall average
Average length, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah average average
So after the band then how did you get into hip hop after the band? I would always like freestyle fuck around in the band, you know
and um
When the band I forgot what age I was at I'm pretty bad with timelines, you know, but like
I must have been like early 20s, you know
And
It's not making us money. Like I'd come home. There's one period where we were playing like 200 plus shows a year
Wow, crazy crazy like my my homie carlin days like dude, you know, we played like 236 shows this year
That means we were on the road for like
250 you're only still making $10 a day. Yeah, I think at the I think at the height of it like it was like
We weren't doing per diems. We were just like, yo
We're gonna go to a water park today and fucking everyone
just
Just like let's go eat let's eat whatever the fuck we want. Let's go get sushi, you know, I mean, all right
And the band would play for it was like let's live let's live good because we had a shitty manager who was fucking us over
So we'd be like once I declared like fuck him
We would just then spend the money like frivolously like all our much merch money all that
Like dude, we're gonna go a water park every day. We did we specifically did that
Because it was high every day every day. Which one the one by magic mountain. Well, we were traveling around. Oh, anyway, we went to different one, right?
Um, but we would be like, okay, there's one
This close from the venue. We're gonna like miss soundcheck, but fuck it, you know, right water park
Yeah, yeah, and then it got and then it got to a point where I was like, okay
We'll we'll work for a bit. I had a I had a job and then we go back on tour
And so I was working at a at a dispensary before before we came like fully legal, you know, right and uh
For me at the time it was like good money. I'm like, whoa, I got like
Five grand saves. I like, you know, it was like a lot of money for me at the time
and then
So I was working like seven days a week and then I'd be like I'd recommend a friend to work there
To start working like six four, you know, four days a week. You get high a lot. So I oh, yeah
Yeah, it's crazy, dude. I could I remember my boss would be like, hey
We try this. I don't before me. It'd be a thousand milligram brownie
Jesus, Jesus, I would eat it
And ambi smoking and I'd be like, oh, yeah, they're good. They're good like an hour later
He'd like harder than my other good dude. Now if I take one hit of weed
I wouldn't be able to do this podcast. Oh, you'd be out. I would be like
This is a setup like probably hates me FBI. Yeah, some shit like that
I would think this something's behind that curtain. Oh, it's you get paranoid. I get paranoid
I have to like I'd have to like get in a shower like a bath and like wear it off
So you don't do it at all. No, I could smoke cbd. Yeah, you know, oh, yeah, we did talk about that. Yeah. Yeah
In fact, you don't fuck with a lot of drugs. Yeah, I don't I don't do drugs anymore. Yeah, or drink. Do you drink? No
What? Yeah, so you're sober guy. Yeah. Is that how you got in the movie?
That was that was definitely one of the first questions lies lige asked me. Yeah, and I told him. Yeah
I was like, yeah, I'm in recovery and then
Because the movie that we did is a
Very heavily. It's a it's a sober movie. Yeah
So everyone on it was like, you know, Theo is sober now. I'm sober
Is done. You don't have to be sober to enjoy it
What you don't have to be sober. You don't have to be sober to enjoy it, right?
Play more. Yeah, how great was he amazing dude?
Dude, that that's someone I met who right away. I was like, what a cool dude
Dude, he's so cool like off rip. He was just nice. No ego. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah
He wasn't always like that
It's when he got sober. He's in fact, I want to get him on this
That'll be fire. That'll be fire dude. He's a completely different guy. Yeah, you might have to add a lot of shit
I know he's wild
You know the shit that he was doing when we're shooting. Oh my god
I'm like a lot of what a lot of this
No, like I would be acting and he's has a crust of a pizza
He's literally right across from me and I'm acting in a scene and he's blowing the crust
You know, I mean in front of you know, I mean that kind of guy
You're trying to like me in the moment being the moment like it's a serious scene. Johnny's like crying
Yeah, and I'm trying to like, you know, get on paper at someone. Yeah, he's throwing paper at somebody. Yeah
He's that guy, but um, but when he's acting though
Of oh my god remarkable natural, dude, bro, right crazy crazy like it's crazy to see
Because like I said, it's only my second movie
But like in the first movie I did when everyone turned it on was the first movie
It's called good girl Jane
And like it went to went to try Becca
We won and like our category like best film and then the the main actor she won best
Best like actress so
Wow, it was fire and then so live saw
He knows my girlfriend. They were talking and he's like, oh, I saw him with your boyfriend's in
I think he killed it. I think I have a role for him. Would he be willing to audition?
So that's how that happened. You auditioned. Yeah, but being
Clean was like a big thing. It was like an important thing for him. Yeah
Like I think he would have taken me either way
But you know, you don't want people in a sober movie fucking nodding out. No exactly not like dumbfounded
I fall on asleep every day
Falling asleep while people are in a scene
Right no, not not just closing his eyes
A sleep like this. Why though?
Just tired
Yeah, just tired tired. Yeah, you know, to be honest, I think the the heat because a lot of it was hot
But that one day four of us fell asleep the one in that one scene when we were upstairs. Oh, right
I fell asleep. I saw you fall. I did fall asleep. I did fall. Yeah, I I feel right. I you're right. You're right
My pet. I did fall sorry dumb. I felt myself going like this. Yeah, and then I'll show you I'm going to show you something
I think Eric said he fell asleep. Yeah. Yeah, he did. I'm going to show you something
Um, check this out
Somebody took a jay more took a photo of you sleeping of me sleeping during like a very serious
Yeah, and so now johnny johnny got right next to you. So johnny is right next to me
He's doing pouring his heart out pouring his heart out and I'm
I'm fully asleep
And then when he saw the photo, you know, I mean he laughed. Yeah, but I was I'm so sorry dude
He's like fine. You know what I mean, but we did fall asleep
John dumbfound. I'm sorry, but but but when I saw you he was saying things serious
And you you went like you were like this. Yeah, and then you went
So you kind of played it off as if maybe you were like pondering
Dude, you still consciously act bro. I I acted my dream. I think you're that good. That's how good I am
Dude, I act when I'm asleep life hack. Yeah, it's a life hack. I think you're that good, right?
No, I think what happened was this, right? I was falling asleep
right
And and then all of a sudden something in my head was like you're in a movie
That's I think that's what but the way you open it because I'm like looking back, you know
Yeah, yeah the way I was positioned and and you kind of just went like
And I was like so smooth I was like damn, I don't even know if he was asleep or not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's how good I am
Dog, let's go. So let's go back to the hip-hop. Yeah, so then I'm so you were hip-hopping in the van, right?
You're at a dispensary, right?
Yeah, and it's like it's like so my homie he can make merch designs and make money wherever he is, you know
So for him it was easy
And I'm like, yo, fuck this manager and fuck this label like they suck. I'm like
I want to do my rap shit. I want to do the band shit, but I'm also making money here, you know
Hmm and like I'm like, I'm willing to divvy. I just realized there's a red bull in that painting. That's amazing
I just love that we both love red bull sugar-free sugar-free all day. Yeah, we're gonna die. Yeah, our heart's gonna stop
Yeah, at some point at one point, but everyone everyone does. Yeah. Yeah
It's the only promise, but yeah
Are you scared of death me? Yeah. No
I am uh, I have I have mixed thoughts. Yeah, I go back and forth
But, um
I can get deeper into it after I finish the okay, but let's go to the hip-hop, but I
Accept it. Yeah, we'll go to death after. Yeah, but yeah
I was just like, yo, I can balance the job the the band and the rap shit if we leave this this management
I don't know what had them so
still down to work with him
Even though like he was a pretty
Intimidating guy and we were like we had even let it be known to him like, yo, we don't give a fuck like
We're a bunch of little kids like we'll fuck you up, you know, like like we're not scared of you
Wow, but they still had this like I think looming like
No, we gotta like some of them had signed. I never did
It's like colonel parker in Elvis. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, and then and then
One day they were just like a straight-up text like yo, dude
You don't give a fuck anymore. Like you don't show up to practice blah blah and I was like
I remember I didn't reply to my homie
I just replied to all of them and I was like, yo, I was like you guys are right group text. Yeah
I was like if this was not with him, I'd be down, but
I can't do it with him. I don't fuck with him
Let's let's just fucking end it. Let's end it like
Let's I'm gonna do my dad. Dude. Yeah, I gave years of going on the road with these guys 10 years 10 years. Wow
and then uh
And I am a ship a ship jumper. I can jump ship quickly. Yeah, I'm a ship jumper, too
Yeah, I'll just be like poof. Yeah, but this was a hard one and then the reply I got from like
I always saw Sean as leader of the band was like, dude, go make the hardest best hip-hop rap album you can
And and fucking kill it and I'm like
That's beautiful, you know
And they would always tell me like dude like one day you got to like you got to move on to like what you're really good at
Not that I was you know, because I wasn't the best bass player, you know
I just look good doing it. You know how to do it. No. No, I could put yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
So when you how do you are you scared when you're starting now or no?
Well, uh, it must be scary to me. I mean with the rap shit. I mean you're you do 10 years of this bad
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I was scared because I have always had a group with me
You know, like if if something's going wrong or it's a shitty show like you got four other people to fall back on
But then I found a group of dudes
Fat Nick Puyah some homies from florida mickey the magician
Um, there's a lot of those are real people. Yeah. Yeah. Puyah. Puyah. Puyah. Puyah is a real guy. Yeah. Yeah. What's the other names?
fatnik
Fentanyl Fennie Fennie. No fatnik fatnik. Oh fatnik. Yeah. Oh, I see
Um, mickey the magician mickey the magician like that one. I like that one
there's more people but those are like the first ones I met right and
I realized that what they would do is we'd go on stage
also, uh
My friends the suicide boys we'd go on stage and we would go up there like 10 of us together
And it would just be like you do a song then he does a song then we do a song that we have together
Right, so it made me feel comfortable and the kids the kids were mashing because it was like underground rap
So it's not wait in underground rap. They marsh. They marsh
Whoa, not other not like at a hardcore show like how do they marsh they marsh probably
Mosh different like push mosh and like jump around, you know, right more fun. Yeah, they don't stop on your head with
They're not trying to like drain blood. Yeah, right. Yeah. I hate when that when that
When monchi my brother was in a band called monchi some guy did a side
Kung fu kid to my stomach. Oh dude. Yeah
I got what I got jump and I was like, what the fuck I got jump kicking the face one day
I remember I was like vibing and I turned around and I see just like
Wow, yeah, yeah flying like that. Yeah. Wow, like street fighter jump spring kick
Wow, yeah, it hurt. Yeah, I hit me in the head and I was okay
For some reason I imagine somebody kicks you you go, okay, I can do I can deal with head injuries
Oh, you can't recently. Well, oh me too. Me too, man
Like, you know, some kids break their arms all the time growing up. Yeah, mine was always like a head
thing you have your broken a bone
Uh, no, I've torn ligament or I can say I've never broken a bone ever broken. Have you guys broken a bone?
Nope, have you not me not me either. No, yeah, I have this weak guy
Glassman three arms. Yeah, that's like my brother was always breaking an arm
Why because you're playing softball so hard
Oh, I see you don't have a land
Yeah, okay. There you go. So you did would do this big group, right?
Yeah, so it made me feel comfortable. I'm like, okay, cool. Like it's a group of dudes and we're all like
You know kind of like a Wu Tang vibe even though we all had separate artist names and shit and then
The kids are marching. I'm like, okay, this makes me feel comfortable. You know
um
I would have rapped on my own if I didn't meet them, you know
And would have gone up there, you know, I did do like a couple shows alone before I met them
But it made me just feel more like, okay
And then we started like, you know, you can't always have everyone there
Yeah, so we started doing like our sets split up. Oh, wow
But then I was like, okay, but I'm up there with my DJ, you know, yeah
And then I just got comfortable with it, you know through yeah trial and error
Exactly. Probably there's some shows that where you're like, I should have done that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for sure. Yeah
How long did that take like a year?
uh, a couple years it definitely took like a couple years of just like
Like because when I was working I would I would just like
You know, I left the band and I would work. It was all the way in Torrance
So I'd go from West Valley like like West Hills, Canoga Park
To Torrance every day then come back and then I would go to the studio
Go to sleep and then wake up and do the same thing same thing
And then some new guy came into the weed shop and he was trying to change things around I quit the next day
I think jump shipped again. Yeah, and I was like, okay. Fuck it. Like the last of my money
I'll just
I'll spend it on
On being able to record, you know
Luckily, I had a homie who's
Whose dad had a studio so we'd not to pay for studio time. So that was cool
and
just kept recording recording and then met the right homies and it just kind of
Took off organically. Yeah
And then you put on an album and then I put out I put out my first my first dp or tape whatever it was called
Keystone Prince
And it did well and then I put on my next one
And that took like a long kind of hiatus. I was putting songs out, but I was just like
Trying to get my mind right trying to make sure my family was good, you know
and then
And then when I came back like I was like, dude, I don't give a fuck if like I have zero fans
As long as my head's okay, you know
I came back and like to the internet kind of and all my fans are just like we're here
I'm like, we just want more, you know
And then I put out that tape that album like a few months ago. Wow. Yeah, and that's blowing up. It's doing well
It's doing really well. Wow. Yeah, I might done and you're making good money. Yeah
Yeah, because it's not the car you rolled up in. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, I mean Durango Hellcat. Yeah, and you got a girl
Yes
Wow, I do. How'd you meet her on the internet? No, I met her through my sister
That's how you do it, huh? Because I was like, yo, I keep meeting
fucking like
someone who's like
Only knows my music or you know what I mean, like
Sneaky like fan shit. Yeah, like like you like me for who I am. You can like me for what I'm saying sneaky
There's just I know so wait basically
Basically, he's I'm single now. He's worried that women are sneaky not all women. Yeah, but but Jesus Christ
Yeah, but you know, but in general the women that want to hang out with me he's saying are sneaky. What are their motives?
They know a lot about I'm being very protective of
World right now. Yeah. Yeah. So I there's some sneaky vibes and I don't like the sneaky vibes
You know like meeting if you can meet someone through a mutual friend like how he met his girl
I feel like that's like the best. Yeah. See, I don't go to bars like even like I get anxiety in like places like that
Yeah, like I have social anxiety for sure PTSD or some shit and
so for me like
Hanging out at a friend's house or the studio or the movies like that's shit where I'm comfortable
I'm going out to bars and shit. So I'm like, I'm not gonna meet anyone normal ever. You know what I mean, right?
So then so you but you met it through your friends your sister's friend. Yeah, I'm like one of your friends has to think I'm hot
You know, you start saying that to all your friends. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what are the odds?
But what are the odds of you saying it to a friend and then yeah, I know Lucy. She hasn't dated anyone in 30 years
You mean she can't be hot. She pulls out like
Yeah, yeah, I mean when you first saw your sister's friend, well, I hadn't met her before so you knew who you yeah
Yeah, and I was like, okay
Yeah, yeah, okay. I think I felt the connection there. You know, oh, I see. Yeah
And did it happen right away or it was pretty like right when we met up?
We kind of like knew there was a vibe, you know, right and how long you've been dating her
Uh, almost a year. No
Congratulations. Thank you. Awesome being your love. I am in love. Let's go. Let's go dog
Let's talk about this the vaping
The vape I was off of this shit
Until I fucking met you asshole
You vape way too much
It's a problem. Yeah, do you think it's too much? Do you think this is killing you?
I was about to say the vaping that's leading us to our death
I think these these these topics can go hand in hand. All right, you know
so my goal was like
I'm not going to enter 30 years old doing like
Fucking drugs, you know
So like I slowly nipped things in the butt, you know got rid of shit
And then I was like, okay
But give yourself some slack like with the vaping and shit like you've done a lot of achievements
I used to be like
60 pounds bigger than I am right now. Oh, congratulations. Yeah, and I and I I got it off doing like keto, but then I've kept it off by just
Really just being normal, you know, not any type of crazy diet shit like
Still eat donuts if I feel like it, you know, yeah, donuts are great. Yeah, they're amazing. They're amazing. Yeah
What kind of don'ts do it?
You want to know? Yeah, um bear claw. Oh la bear claw
What's called apple fritter? I love the little insides. Yeah. Yeah, the little apple chunks inside. Yeah, they told me
I asked and they said there would be more apple chunks in the apple fritter
But it would it would make it fall apart more. That's why the bear claw has like bigger pieces, I guess
Oh, I never even thought about my donut lady. Yeah. Yeah. So what you're saying is that bear claw is better
Because they're bigger pieces
No, it I like apple fritter because the most why because it's solid and still has some apple
Right
And then if I'm feeling a little more moisture, I'll go bear claw. Yeah, I did
You know, we go to the bear claw. Yeah need more moisture. And then there's some nights where I get a plethora
You know, what's a plethora? I mean 12
Well, that's that's if I'm trying to be like, yo, I got donuts
All right. All right. If I'm like really like don't don't clap. I was telling brian
Uh, I was like if I'm really falling apart. I'll eat like three donuts. Brian van holt. Yeah
I was like, I'll eat like three four donuts. He's like, oh, yeah, it's a dark place. You love that guy
I love him. I think he's a great dude. So we we're working also on a movie with brian van holt
Separate. No, he's in the movie. You know who that is
He was in the movie. He was on a show called cougar town
You know, um, but he he was also in black hock down. He's like a real at legend. Yeah, he's done thousands of movies
Yeah, right and this dude comes in with these fucking degenerates
And he fit right in this. Yeah
Yeah, that guy
That dude is a part of our group, man. Yeah, that's yeah
He used to date courtney cox amanda peat
Now he's a lovely wife or your wife. Yeah matter. She's great. Awesome dog named chub. Yeah, awesome dog
This experience doing this movie was good, right? I think it was beautiful
Is the best one of the best experiences of your life 100% me too, uh
Like no cap like no exaggeration
um
I don't know something about it was just like
The group of people, you know what I mean, like even the first day like I had met theo once
He came to a show when we played I think in in
Louisiana. Is that where he's from? Yeah. Yeah. Well, he came to a show
And I don't care
He knew one of the rappers so he came through right so I met him there and then um, and then when I saw one set he was like
Like I remember he was like, yeah, and then he was like
You got the things and he made me fucking give him a vape. Oh, right. Right. Thanks. Hey. Yeah
He can't let me ask you something about that guy
He can't afford vapes because all he does is ask for everyone else's vape
But he would have his own
That's what it is. Well, I well, I realized he's like, I need to go get one and I was like
He knew
Do I don't mind. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Yeah, and then you went about one
Yeah, and then he and then one day he came in with one that was like zero percent
nicotine
So he's like
It's a cool if I hit yours every once in a while to get the kick. I'm like a hundred percent. Yeah
Yeah, because I would have like fucking I I was gonna bring my bag in my left in the car
I mean, I have like 12 half like like half dead vapes. Yeah, this company's cool. Elf bar. Yeah, that's what I have
Yeah, pretty cool wavelength. The flavors are flavors are good. Yeah wavelength. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, both got elf bars
There's only three companies, but yeah
Like 12. Yeah, there's 12. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it was a really because I I'll be honest with you
I've done
a lot I think in my career you mean a lot of
movies and tv shows and stuff and um
I have to say that this one was the most comfortable. Yeah, just in terms of like, oh, I can fuck up
Mm-hmm, or I can you know, I mean
Experiment or I just feel comfortable to be myself and to do things
And then I just liked, you know, sometimes you're in something and you just kind of look around and go
Hey, everyone's nice
I wouldn't hang with any of the any of these guys
But in this show it's like I could see myself hanging out with all these guys
I said that on the last day a couple of us were sticking around and um
I was like, I don't want this to be like like when I go on tour
Everyone's like your best friend and then after it's like
Other than your couple homies like you don't tap back in with them. I was like, I want us to hang out like
If there's no rap party like I'll throw a rap party. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, well, that's why you're here
You know, you know, I want to just exactly out and go extend my fucking little dick and go exactly
I mean bring your little dick and then make it at average. Yeah. Oh connect them. Well connected them together, you know, exactly
So at I just want to say to shake well that um
This whole experience was perfect. Yeah, you think guys this was it was fun. Dude, you're a fascinating person. You're fascinating sharing all that
Thank you. Fascinating guy, right?
Perfect guest for us. You know what I mean? Thank like minded at the end of our podcast. We do a thing called unhelpful advice
Mm-hmm people as have problems and then we either help them or not. Okay, you might give them bad advice
I don't care
Go ahead, sir unhelpful advice would shake well. Hey guys. My name is blank
I'd like to keep my name anonymous
I've been dealing with depression ever since high school when I got out
I started taking pills and psychedelics every day for about a year
I was able to quit on my own somehow, but my depression and anxiety has only gotten worse
I dropped out of college part of the reason is because I was only going to please my parents with becoming an engineer
But I did not want to do that. I enjoy art and I know I'm really good at it because of that
I wanted to become a graphic designer
I really love my family, but they are so toxic and being home just makes me feel so sad all the time
I don't know how to take the first step into starting my career
And I feel like I need to move out so I can have the creative freedom
But nowadays you need roommates to move out and I don't have a lot of friends
So it's difficult times have been getting harder and I've been thinking about pills and psychedelics a lot and I'm scared
I'm going to relapse
I know bobby went through something like this and I was wondering is there any advice you guys can give me
For taking that first step and then he has another message here
This podcast saved my life a year ago. I almost hung myself my birthday, but I stopped myself
I was writing notes for people when I discovered the tiger belly podcast and realized that there is hope in my future
Because of bobby's stories words can't express the amount of love I have for you guys. So thank you
fuck
I mean, do you pick these or yes, I do. Okay, dude, my that's heavy my my dms are
Like there's a lot of shit like that. Yeah, because
Like how your podcast may save someone maybe a song of mine has saved someone or album. Yeah
Um
And in the beginning it was really easy to like answer to some people and then and then it becomes over flooded
You know, like and I'm like, oh fuck. I don't know who to respond to, you know, I try to everyone so well
But I first think it's beautiful that something that we do can help someone, you know
Yeah, I have you shit it's heavy. I you know, I have to say
That I do struggle with depression myself. Yeah
Um
And I I do everything I can to
You know address that through healthy means, you know, either by therapy or going to a meeting or whatever we're talking to a friend
reaching my hand out, but it's like, um
The no there's two issues here with this guy. Number one is like, um, you should always do what's your passion about 100%
So, you know, I mean do the art
You know, um, if you think that like you said
Your dad was like, you're not going to make any money doing music and that I mean, that's their job
Yeah, yeah as parents they they they're never rarely are they gonna
Encourage unless you're nickroll's parents who's a billionaires, but anyway, um, shout out to nickroll's parents
Nick Paul brought, um, you know, oh, yeah, kid. You know, we got billions, you know, yeah, yeah
They're there to remind you of realities. Right. Yeah, so they're not going to support you. Um
In general
You got to do your now the depression is a completely different thing. That's something that it's a mental health issue
Yeah, I have depression. Yeah a thousand percent
Um, I just recently realized that I need therapy and I found two good therapists
I just have to call, you know
You got a call dude. Exactly. Yeah. How old are you shake 30? Oh, you're young. Yeah
Young successful young man here. Um, I think his other problem is what?
He doesn't have friends
So I want to throw it out there
I I'm young and successful. Like I said, uh
Uh, I still have roommates, you know, there are people I work with so it's like
Because I have I have people in my life that are like going broke on their rent and I'm like, dude, you're broke and
You're paying this much for a spot. Yeah, go get a roommate. You might not fully get along with them, you know
so
Now the issue I guess he doesn't have friends
Maybe go to a meeting. Yeah. Yeah, that'll help you with the addiction side of it
Because for me for a meeting sometimes you walk in you hear someone's story and you're like, okay
There's people as or more fucked up than I am, you know
Maybe you'll gain a friend
Yeah, I mean I've been in other cities where I you know
Went to a meeting like if I was on the road or something and I go, hey, I'm Bobby. I'm from out of town
Yeah, and um, some guy will welcome to me and go, hey, let's go grab a meal, right?
There was this kid named in Chicago named Bob. That's all I'm gonna say. His name is Bob. Great guy
And I remember going to a meeting. I was shooting a pilot out there
And I was really fucked up and this dude would pick me up at my hotel room
And drive me to meetings and then his friends would start, you know, I mean there is a group of people out there
Wherever you're from, right? If you just you have to make an effort though
You got to put one foot from from the other, right? So here's two things. You number one, do your art regardless. Number two
Yeah
Try to get a therapist if you can't afford it go to a meeting if you can't, you know, there are just other ways
To do it and I ain't therapy type type things. You know what I mean? Yeah, there are also books out there
You know that you can read. I mean, I remember being poor
and reading Deepak Chopra and you know, um
Louis, what's this guy's name from uh, four agreements?
Yeah, that guy
Um, but just getting books. I remember my friend Jason Glearn
Had books. I couldn't afford it because I read these self-help books. You can have them. I would read them in like in my
Apartment poor. I had no money. You know, I mean, so I would do everything I can because I that's the worst thing to do is to feel
Homeless and have no solutions
And you're walking around so fucking depressed. Yeah, you got to do something something every day. Yeah
something every day to get to
You got to focus on one thing every day to fix the the future without worrying on the future, you know
Yeah, and I also have one last thing. I want to say
It's not funny. It's serious
is
Is to wake up every day
Is to wake up every day and do something for somebody else
100%
To get out of yourself, right? And it doesn't have to be um
A money thing a charity thing, right? It doesn't have you don't have to have money to do it
But do something go and not brag about it
My my sobriety guide gave me a list of things to do like what and one of them was do something nice and don't get caught
Meaning don't brag about yes
Yeah, exactly. And I try to do that. I do it probably a couple times a week. I do super sick
Yeah, that's what I'm bragging about. But no, yeah
I did this thing the other day. Yeah. No, but yeah, I think that's good. Yeah, and you have to be mindful of it
Yeah, you wake up. It has to be in a forethought like I got to do something nice for somebody today, right?
and if you're when you're in the act of
Going out of yourself and helping people. It's just the universe just helps. Mm-hmm. I
Can't explain it, you know, it's it's just something that I can't
Articulate because there's a lot of it's not even a god thing
It's just like it's just when you get out of yourself and you're a good person and you go out of it
You stop thinking about yourself because that's a lot of the problem. Oh, I can't get posted. I have no money
Yeah, life sucks me me me me me, right? You get out of that thinking, right?
And I just think that I would try it. I think it's kind of karmic karmic. That's a real word. But yeah karmic
Yeah, I believe in that shit because I believe in that too, dude because I've been in in down low situations
And still trying to put out positive energy
Uh-huh and good things have come back and I've seen dudes in down bad situation
Fucking people over and they just keep getting worse and worse, you know
Yeah, I don't want to talk about this but this is
This is me
This is me so I'm not gonna
No, no, yeah, I'll try it. Okay
so last night
you know, I was like
At the improv right and I was like, I'm gonna stay stick around
Right to see if there's anybody I can meet
Guy or girl who knows, you know, I mean bingo bingo bingo bingo, right?
And I was hanging out drinking at Diet Coke and a comic was there
And he looked
Sad, you know, I mean, I go what's going on? He goes
You know, I'm newly sober and um, I'm struggling
And I remember going
All right, come here. We sat down at the end of the improv in the in the dining area
No one's in there and we're just sitting there. We talked for about an hour and a half, right?
And we both him and I because we're both sober and we both came out of that
That feeling just completely different about our circumstances, you know, I mean
They're just, you know, you could have moments with people
This human beings need that they need connection. They need intimacy. They need
That or we would die. I think, you know, I mean, yeah, and so um
That I think that's the thing that he's lacking. I mean, it looks like his parents
He doesn't he can't have that connection with his parents right now
Yeah, so, you know, I think the first thing to do is to just go out of your way and listen to somebody
And try to do that just be mindful about that
I think that's spot on. Thank you, man. I have a good buddy Luis. Um, and he does
He he would do therapy sessions with me and
I think he does it, um, like grotties like he just it's like to help people
Uh, maybe he can find something in his area. That's like a similar type thing. Yeah, you know, it's got to be a group
There has to be free. There's free resources. Yeah, yeah
Yeah, um
You what's your you want to plug anything?
Me. Yeah shows shit pray for shake. Well, I don't know
Pray for shake. Well, that's the name of the the last the last tape. There it is, dude
There it is
Out Spotify Apple music. Yes, sir. iTunes ever out now out now
Music videos I'm pulling out right before the movie. I'm gonna put out another one
I'm trying to drop like one a month. You know, yeah, yeah
Working the movie was great. Now I'm back to working on the music
Until the next movie. I love to be one of your videos one day. I told you
I don't know if you see my videos, but they get a little freaky. They're weird. I love it because I got over the
The
The same shit and rap, you know, yeah guns and drugs and business. No, we don't do that. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah
So I like to I like to shake it up a little bit. Yeah. No pun intended. Yeah
But yeah, you you got to be one of my why I have to do it. Yeah
In fact, I you know, I dressed up as a gecko the other day
I saw some and people are like, dude, I had a guy come up to me last night and go
Is everything all right
And I go, what do you mean? He's like, I mean, is your career going okay?
And I go, yeah, I'm killing it. He's like the why are you dressing up as a gecko?
Did you set that up who said that some guy some podcast producer guy
The guy I was I'm not gonna say his name. He said that to you
I know it's I also I got a lot of love from it, right
But he was saying that like, you know, I mean you why you dress I go I'm doing it because
He's it's a good podcast
And I got a lot of love from that. Yeah. Is that one of your videos? Yeah. So this is the last one I put out
My sister was one of those nuns the one in the middle. This is Bobby's vibe. She this is my vibe
She and my friend Dylan produced it
Yeah, yeah
And then I just produced her video that just came out all those dancers her name's bambina. Yeah
Yeah
Which one was your sister that one in the middle in the front right there. That's your sister. Yeah. Oh, she's cute. Yeah
Gorgeous. Yeah, and then um
Yeah, she just put out a video very very if you like this kind of shit
Well, she's a music too. Yeah, she goes by bambina bambina. She just put out a music video right like yesterday
So you guys help each other
Oh, that's so sweet. It's fire. Yeah. Is that you? Yeah, this part's crazy. Yeah. Well check your shit. That's on youtube
Yep, is that your mom? No, that's uh
That's an actor that we hired to all right. I'm sorry. She was a spanish older. That's no, yeah
She's like cleansing me, you know all the bad shit. Oh, I want to check that shit out, man
Yeah, there's some wild ones up there and then yeah, yeah, and I'm playing rolling loud on
Uh on september 11th. It's a weird day. What's a rolling loud? It's a festival in toronto
Nice. Oh, go check shake it. We'll let in toronto, dude rolling loud september 11
September 11 a lot of people go to that. Yeah, it's like it's one of the bigger rap festivals. Wow
Thousands of people, huh? Yeah, should we tell you?
Hey, dude, thank you. Keep him around. Thank you. I love you.
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