TigerBelly - Episode 24: Hunky Dory

Episode Date: January 13, 2016

We grieve over Bowie. Bobby has only ONE thought during a rectal exam. Khalyla sits silent as the boys come out of the closet. We talk about the appropriation of bird feathers, crowns, tattoos, braids, and the Pope's mitre. Are we reckless in our uninformed expressions of fun and beauty or is the world too sensitive about traditions?   Recorded January 11, 2016 Music by Bobby Lee Instagram: @tigerbelly Twitter: @thetigerbelly www.thetigerbelly.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening ad-free on Wondery Plus. Welcome to Tiger Belly. I'm Bobby Kalayla and Gilbert here and yesterday was really sad day. We lost one of the great ones, David Bowie, and I was devastated yesterday. I really was. I just grew up with not on that guy man. I used to do meth in middle school and listen to Hunky Dory you know and and just it's devastating. What's your favorite Bowie album Gilbert? Don't have an album song? Space Oddity? No album please. I don't know no. Excuse me? I'm young. But you know you're an 80s kid right? So you have to know at least the album Let's Dance. I

know Let's Dance yeah. Okay so China Girl is on there. I like this. Modern Love. Oh that album. They know the most from that. Yeah I think that's what most or at least that was what I was most familiar with growing up until I became. Can I just say something please? Go ahead. The thing is is this is that when people go well that wasn't my time. You know what I mean? I'm young or whatever it's like yeah I'm familiar with Beethoven. That wasn't my time. I'm familiar with Rembrandt. That's not my time. What the fuck is supposed to mean? I feel like there are a few icons that you deaf that everyone no matter how old exactly needs to know

like you everyone needs to know who Freddie Mercury was. Yeah everyone needs to have a Bowie collection. The last day the other day I was listening to Ingrid. What's her name? Michael. I don't want to know who that is but I listened to the song. She's not quite an icon. My point though is this is that I try to immerse myself into things that are going on right? Yeah. But fools like you are like oh I'm too young. You know let me ask you this. No I'm tired of this fucking young bullshit because I'm in a fucking bad mood because he died. I'm gonna ask you this right now and this is gonna there's gonna be

consequences my friend. Okay. Name me two Beatles albums. Yellow Summer Rain. One of the worst ones. Yes but I'll let you have that one. You're really nervous now and uh I'm trying to help a fellow Filipino Beatles albums. Yeah. Name me one more Beatles album. It's a color. Sweetie I swore to God. Let's not a color. Monkeys. Don't look at me like that. I'm sorry. Did you just say monkeys? You named another band. The monkeys are a different band. They're a different band. I know I will say other types of bands. Let me ask you this. So you don't you don't own any Beatles albums. No but I know the song. I don't want to play them on the song. Okay how about this.

I'm gonna get I'm gonna give you round two right. Name me ten Beatles songs. Okay. Ten of them. That's a lot. It's not a lot. Hey Jude. Good. He's gonna name the ones your mom. It doesn't matter because if I swore to God if he doesn't fucking name ten. Yellow summer rain. It's over. Yes. Yellow summer rain too. Stop looking. I'm not cheating. If you're struggling with two. It doesn't matter. If I'm looking at you because you're gonna lip slip. Okay. Okay. I won't lip it. Uh three. Uh I just need to hear the song. I can name it. I believe it. I believe it. There are some people who don't know it by titles. Okay. I have a question for you. Me. Yeah. Since

you feel as though we have to know Drake songs different different songs of our generation. Uh huh. Name one Adele song. Um hello. Oh this is because I made you listen to it yesterday. No. You just asked me. Okay. That's it. How does it go. How does it go. Hello. That was the first line. Okay. That's it. That's all I need to know. I just answered. I just answered your question. So that's it. One. I already did the one Jay-Z song. I did the trivia. Now let me ask you this. Okay. What are you doing? I can't believe I don't know. I know it's okay. My point is as though David Bowie died yesterday. Can I just a couple of Beatles songs? Just in my just

the three. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. Hey Jude would be one. I want to hold your hand. I don't want to hold your yesterday. Yeah. Blackbird. Blackbird. Yeah. God damn it. All right. Can you hear him? You know. Yeah. I'm ignorant. I'm ignorant. Listen. You fucking pan-faced brown cookie. Different. Okay. Brown cookie. You gotta own the white album. You just gotta own it. White album. You gotta own Sergeant Peppers. Sergeant Peppers. You gotta own Abbey Road. Fucking. Why didn't I say fucking Abbey Road? That's not a song. I didn't ask you an album. Oh yeah. I did ask you an album. Yeah. It's an album. So my point is that just you should own those albums.

Okay. Because they're perfect from beginning to end I think. No that's true. How. Okay. So you were born in 71 Bobby. Yeah. And so. The Beatles had already broken up. Okay. Okay. So how big was was David Bowie mainstream or considered to be a cooler, more obscure artist by the time you were in your teens? I was, you know, I've always was aware of them. I don't have him. I don't remember when I fell in love with them. I just remember like my cousin Paul. I had a cousin named Paul. He's still alive. Choi who made me want, listened to like the Velvet Underground and Roxy Music and all these bands as a kid. And so if it was up for him, I wouldn't have been educated, but he pretty much taught

me about all of that, you know, and I remember, you know, in the late 80s, going to buy Kill Him All and Ride the Lightning Metallica albums. And then he made me go, we bought Bowie albums, Dylan albums. I would go buy like albums that he told me that were good. I was a huge Roxy Music fan. He taught me about film. Like I saw every Kurosawa film and that's why I kind of became nerdy about that kind of stuff. But I still today believe that you should just, you know, immerse yourself into that stuff because it's stuff, it's, it's amazing, you know, that album alone that David Bowie did was when he was living in Germany and he was living with Iggy Pop and they were fucking each other in the butthole.

Were they really? Yeah. They were butthole fucking. What's so funny? That's how artists do it. I feel like that makes them more iconic. I mean, the fact that you, you were a part of like any type of orgy, like lets me know that you made it creatively, financially. We're not going to really get close creatively until you fuck me in the butthole. You know that. Jesus. You know that though, right? Yeah, I know. Speaking of butthole, let's walk everyone through or we're not done with Bowie yet. No, I just want to just say this to people. Okay, go ahead. That we lost, you know what I mean? We just lost one of the great ones. A couple years ago, we lost Lou Reed too. That was very sad. And I just want to just take a moment of silence to remember David Bowie.

Oh, and Lemmy. Lemmy died too. Two weeks ago. Okay, babe, you're fucking it off. Who's Lemmy? Who's Lemmy Gilbert? Who's Lemmy? I don't know. What band did he sing? I don't know who that is. Oh my God. Don't ask me. Don't ask me. It's like being in a fucking podcast with a retard. Are you retarded? He's not into rock bands. I don't listen to music. I don't do a lot. You don't like music. I never grew up listening to music, my family now. Why? They just never introduced me to them. But he knows all the basic karaoke songs, right? Yeah, like Tom Jones and all that stuff. Tom Jones Delilah. So in high school, when you and your friends would go to an album store, I never went. You never bought an album? One. What did you buy? I don't want to say.

You better tell me right now. Anything's better than mine, which is Limp Bizkit. It was two. God, one was Britney Spears. He was like, fuck, I'm not gay. I'm gonna punch you in the face. It was the one with, she's so lucky. Yeah, you're fucking gay. She's so lucky. N-Sync No Strings Attached. N-Sync No Strings Attached, babe. Those are the two albums you bought? Yeah. I just don't know, man. It's like, you know, when I first met you, I'm like, here's a kid who's naturally funny, who probably has a really bright future in showbiz, but then now you reveal things about you. Sweetheart, you should have known that he listens to that just based on how he dances and moves. That's true. Yeah. And if you want to know how we dances, look

at our Instagram on Tiger Belly Instagram account, and we have a video of him when he was fat dancing, and it's just so fucking. He does extreme body rolls. Yeah. I will say I should have gotten to music more. It's embarrassing. It kind of is. My friends, they still talk about music. I just, I can't relate to it. I didn't buy albums. I ran money to buy. There's some people who are so snooty around here who are just like... I'm not being snooty. No, no, no. I'm not saying you. All right. But you. Yeah. There are people who are snooty and sit on their high horse and they're like, can't believe you don't know that. It's like, yeah, dude, I can't know everything in this life, but can you instead of putting me down, can you teach me? Yeah, but that's not me. I teach.

And I'm also a sponge. I'm open. Okay. So I'm asking you right now to be open. I'm open. You know what? He is open because on our way to this hamburger joint, Casels in Koreatown, he was listening to the Britney Spears album. Really? Mm-hmm. I was. Toxic. Yeah. Because if the thing is this, Gilbert, I'm open to it all. It could be awful. I'll try. Okay. And today I tried something new. I went to the... I had my first doctor's appointment since I was a baby, I think. Yeah. The lady asked him like, oh, do you need a tetanus shot? And there's literally no record of his immunizations. Like we don't know whether or not he's even immunized. Yeah. Like there's just, we don't have anything to go by. And I just literally just told him everything. I have brain

tingles on my head. Because he's been complaining of his... Brain tingles. Yeah, yeah. For the last few years. For years, I have these chronic brain tingles. If they're not headaches, they're like, oh my god, I think I'm having a stroke kind of a thing. Whoa, man. Yeah. That's number one. I talked about my foot. He looked at it. He started touching it, but then he backed away. Because he usually saw the fungi. You know what I mean? Well, he's a woman or a male doctor. He's a Japanese dude. A little Japanese guy. Yeah. And then he, I thought he was joking. He goes, okay, so take your clothes off. I go, what? Take your clothes off. I go, what? Why? Because I gotta do rectal. Right? Yeah, rectal exam. Did you know that was going to happen? No. No, no, no, no, no.

I was, I was scared at first. He really was. He should have seen his face. First, he was like, get out the room. And he was like, no, no, no, I need your support. Yeah, I need your support. So take my clothes off, which I don't have a problem with. Yeah, yeah. I bent over and he put this little fucking nip doctor, Japanese man, right? Sorry for calling nip, but you know, and he put a glove on and he stuck it in. And can I be honest with you? How many fingers first? One finger. Can I be honest with you? Which finger? Thumb? I think it was an index. And to be honest with you, number one, it felt good. Wow. Yeah, like it felt around. I was aroused a little bit. You're being serious. You're not. Yeah. And number two, and I'm not even

kidding. I thought about you. So what happened? So as the finger went in, what was your first thought? Well, if I were to make a noise, it'd be like, you? No, don't please don't look at me. Don't look at me and say that. I really did think of you and not in a sexual way, just my my No. It was just weird like he stuck it in I'm like Gilbert?Yeah, so thank you, yeah, you're welcome. And they did that. And then what else happened? Then I got beta blockers. I mean, as a prescription, okay, before his, it's off label use for his anxiety. For my anxiety? Were you freaking out at all like oh, I could have all these diseases and I don't know. Well, Well, they did blood work.

We'll find out tomorrow, five a.m. So he's done, the doctor seems to think that one of the reasons his foot is like infested with fungus and isn't going away is because apparently that can be a sign of blood sugar issues. So when you pre-diabetic or diabetic. No, no, no, if you listen, sweetie, he said,

but I don't think that's what it is because only one of your feet is itchy. But you do have a little bit on your right foot. No, I have none. I have absolutely none. Just one. I have one foot, my left foot, everyone knows it. So he asked me to step out when the doctor was

inspecting his foot because he didn't want me to see his foot up close, but he asked me to stay in while he was getting probed in the ass. That makes sense. Does it? Yeah. Because one event is embarrassing and the one of them isn't.

Yeah, being fingered by a Japanese man is not embarrassing. But seeing your foot. His Koreans are used to that with the Japanese. Do you know what I thought was the... Oh. The thing I really, really earthed me was before going to the doctors, I thought to myself, like, oh, the doctor, this doctor is gonna for sure know

just by looking, taking one look at Bobby's disheveled appearance that, you know, he has some health issues. But do you know what Bobby did? You know what this motherfucker did? He showed up in one of those Todd Schneider boxing sweatshirts, some fucking yoga pants, and some running shoes.

Like, as if he had just got out of the gym. Yeah, I'd dress like... Like, he looked like a model for fitness. Like, I was fucking... You know, I looked like Rocky in the first movie. The first one, when he was going up the stairs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I looked just like that.

I was so upset because I just knew he was gonna try to fool this doctor into thinking like he was this fucking hot shot, like healthy 44-year-old. Yeah, I sucked my gut in. Yeah, he was like pulling it in. He had like a little, like, you know, fitness hat. Like, it was just really annoying. I was so annoyed.

And he basically just on the, without the blood work, he was checking my lungs. You know what I mean? He put his hands on my body, put his finger in my butthole. And he generally, this is what he basically said, was from my examination of you now, just with my hands and, you know what I mean?

And just looking at you, you seem completely fine. There you go. And I just wanted to say, that's right, because I'm unbreakable. And I'm fully evolved, you know? Another thing happened today that I want to talk about. We're not done yet with that. What?

Let's talk about your new diet. Ooh. Fuck a bullshit. Now listen, fuck it. This new treaty that you signed. This bitch right here. This treaty of Klai. I mean, my girlfriend is the love of my life.

But this cunt bitch, I love her my life, I mean. She goes, this week, you're going to do diet. Why did you have to say it in a Vietnamese accent, Klai La? And I go, what is it, so I had to sign a contract. You signed a contract with her? Yeah, so she, today, and I'm going to be couple. The contract is this. She made me the most unedible,

fucked breakfast sandwich you could ever eat. The breakfast sandwich was delicious. The problem was that the bread. Everyone knows when it comes to sandwiches, it's all about the fucking bread. I bought this multi-grain, it's one of those like round ones, those little fins. Yeah.

Which are usually pretty good, but I bought one yesterday with Jenna. Jenna insisted you have to get these. These are so good. There's your first problem. That's the problem, bitch. I told you never to listen to that hippy food. So I made him a breakfast sandwich earlier

with chicken patty, it was a healthy breakfast sandwich. Chicken patty. Yeah, instead of a pork sausage, chicken sausage instead. It was like a apple. I could tell, babe. So anyways, he tasted it and he was like, what kind of bread is this? It's gross.

And actually it was pretty gross because I took a bite. So I apologize for that, but I made up for it for dinner. What did I make you for dinner? Tuna and guacamole. So I made you seared ahi. I made you an Asian bowl. You saw it Gilbert.

Seared ahi with shiitake mushrooms, edamame. I've never seen an Asian bowl with avocado in it. Brown rice, avocado, I had microgreens in there. It was good. It was good. It was very good. I put some wasabi and some sesame ginger dressing. It was very good.

So I'm starving. He's starving right now. But just for one week, he promised me for one week that I, he wouldn't eat anything. No, five working days. Okay, five working days. He's not allowed to eat anything

unless I feed it to him or I approve of it. Today's day one. Today's day one. And he's already like. Two meals, two meals, right? But yeah, but I just kind of want to prove to him that eating healthy doesn't mean you have, that you have to dislike it.

Yeah, I've disliked it so far, but anyway. You hate it because you can't have ice cream for breakfast. That's what you're upset about. No, but you're saying though, listen, I get eating healthy, okay? I'll do it. But you can't convince me that it's delicious. But you didn't think dinner was delicious?

The dinner was great, but the sandwich was so bad that it cut away from the dinner. So it's like almost if we were fighting or we're playing a soccer game, I'd be winning still. It's not even, you know what I mean? But let me say this, I love you. And you know what?

And your love for me and taking me to the doctor, setting up the appointment, and wanting me to be healthy to live longer is appreciative. Is that a word? I appreciate it. I'm appreciative, I appreciate it. Oh, that's bad.

Use that one better. Yeah, yeah, appreciates it. And I really, I like it. I like that you do that. Would you say girlfriend of the year award? Probably. Wow. But I want to say that you don't convince me

that we're eating ice cream. So tomorrow I'm going to try and see if he's gonna. No, I'd rather tomorrow do this. I want to go to MCafe because I love everything they do there. That's healthy. It's really healthy. Yeah.

It's the same thing, macro-micros, okay? And then I'm going to whatever they say. Macro-micros? Economics? Yeah, economics. And then I'm also going to maybe eat at Whole Foods. Mm. Yeah, you can get some sushi.

Me, we can get that over brown rice. I can, you know what? Can we go to the sushi place? Tomorrow I'm going to make, yeah, to Hamasushi. Yeah. Oh, you should come with us, Gilbert. That sounds nice, Hamas. Hamasushi is the best sushi place in LA.

It's our favorite. It's our favorite. Tomorrow I'm going to try to make you quinoa pasta. Ooh, I can't wait. Ooh, I don't want that. I'm going to make it as delectable as possible for you. Let's put some sugar on it. What, the quinoa pasta?

Yeah, just a little bit. Why would you put sugar? I know that it cooks differently and that it can get really soggy really quickly, but we'll give it a try. I'm sorry, sweetie. We're just trying to take a step in the right direction. It's a good challenge, though.

It's a good challenge. It's a really good challenge. I also want to say I want to apologize to your girlfriend, Sarah. Oh my god. You mean the quarter-gook? Yeah. And I think that we went a little too far.

She did tell me to go fuck myself. I still don't think she said that. You know what's unbelievable to you? What's unbelievable? I believed you until I talked to her. No, no, no. That you would fucking believe her over me. That's what's unbelievable to right now.

I will say this, because fact, you even told me to my face, I lie. I like to win. Yeah, but you know what? What you tell me to my face, Gilbert? I lie. I like to win. I've never said that.

Yes, you absolutely have. There's a part of us, you, me, and Gilbert, that's a little bit between both of you. I think both of you guys are slightly pathological. But the thing is this, Gilbert, is that you think I lied? I have fucking witnesses. OK? I believe you.

Right, but you don't believe me, because you're going to believe Pussy. Oh my god, am I tainted by the Pussy? Yeah, I think you are. And I just, as a man, I want to say to Sarah, I forgive you. Let's start from ground zero. No hard feelings. Let's move on.

But you're really pissing me off, Jack. Oh, you called me Jack? Yeah. Oh, fuck. All right? So I want to say apologize. I want to apologize. But I'll tell you who I'm not going to apologize to, OK?

I want to get into it right now, babe. I posted a photo on my Instagram of me dressed up as an American Indian. Very funny, by the way. Just want to put that out there. I was in Canada last weekend. I was staying at the mall. Now, Canada, the hotel room is in the mall.

Canada, especially in Edmonton, which is where I was, is basically Hoth, OK? It's like, you know when, like, they closed the doors and they couldn't find Luke and Han until the next day? That's how cold it was, OK? So I never left Hoth. I mean, the building, right? So just tell him what's inside this mall.

They have a church inside this mall. Oh, that's so much. There's a police, you know what I mean? Not a force. Station. Station. Yeah, the station. A church.

A water slide. Oh, wait. There's a water park in there? Yeah. Yeah. Movie theater, they have. The hotel is in the. They have stores that would never

exist in an American mall. Like, there's a store specifically for crystal balls. If you want to be, if you're a wizard or a witch. You go there. I mean, you can go there. Literally, you walk in. There's another store dedicated to staffs. Just straight up staffs.

Wizard staffs. Oh, shit. I was in crystal ball on top of it. So if you're Sodamon or, you know, Gandalf, that's where you go. Gandalf. Yeah. And they have, but then they have this thing where you do photography.

You know, like those things where you dress up. Like old timies. Yeah, so there's two options. There's one is Old West, right? Or there's, you can dress up as like a cowboy or an Indian. Yeah. I chose Indian. Cool, it was a choice.

Two choices, right? I post the fucking thing, right, on my Instagram. And then? And then some fucking American Indian guy goes that it's racist, that I should be ashamed of myself, that, you know, and I go, why? You know, it's because that headdress you're wearing is sacred. It's the equivalent. What you're doing is the equivalent of blackface.

As blackface, he said. That T, well, he's pushing it. That's not just pushing it. That's not even the same fucking thing, man. You know, who got a lot of heat for the same thing was, I think it was for either Elle magazine or like Vogue wanted to, but for Elle Williams. What'd he do?

He wore the same thing. He wore a headdress for like the cover of those magazines. And it's, he got ripped into and he had to like make a public apology. Yeah, I will not. I will not make a public apology, okay? And the thing is, is American Indians, right? They have it good, right? They can shape shift into a hawk or wolf or wolf, right?

You know, they're a little sensitive. You literally cry a little bit, okay? Right? When they do a funny dance, it rains. I mean, they have it good. They have casinos and stuff. Let me, let me play devil's advocate for a little bit so you can, you can counter what I'm saying, right?

So for them, you know, that headdress is considered like a war bonnet, right? So it's considered to be, you have to like earn it. So their elders have like shed blood and have done things for their people. And that's how they, that's how they earn that particular headdress, right? So for them, it would be an equivalent if, if, if the equivalent would be like, if someone were to wear like the Pope's hat, say for instance. Yeah. And I, you know what?

I would wear a Pope's hat on camera and I would post it and I would give a fuck. But the only difference between the Pope's hat and the Native Americans is that the Vatican or anybody, like if you're a fucking Cardinal, if you're a Pope, if you're an archbishop, like you, you haven't been an oppressed people. So for them, it's, it's that the fact that the natives have been like traditionally like abused, stereotyped and harmed by white people. So like that is the one for them. They believe that to be a sacred thing that, you know, that they hold proudly

because they have been, their land resources have been stripped away, like, you know, for years and years and years. So it's like one thing that they hold on to, like with pride. What I'm saying to you is this, okay? Like the indigenous people of Hawaii lost the land to Europeans. And then later now America, what's an American state, right? Yeah. I can still wear a like lay and a little grass, grass skirt that doesn't,

you know what I mean? That doesn't mean that I'm making fun of. Right, right, right. You know, correct. Ridiculing them. And I also think like at the end of the day, feathers are beautiful. And I think most people like without knowing wear it because, you know, they wear it in admiration of what it looks like, right?

Like I don't think there's any like, like malintent there. I don't think anyone wears it with the purpose to like hurt other people's feelings about it. I'm not doing it at the mall. I'm bored, right? I'm doing it. My intentions, it's not even thinking of American Indians, right? It's not even in my thing. It's like, oh, that's the costume.

I put it on. There's nothing else to do. I did it. It wasn't like, I'll tell you something. Koreans were oppressed by the Japanese for 50 years. Oh, yeah. OK. They used to boil us alive.

You know, they used to rape. You know what I mean? Our children and they they did horrendous things. All right. And it's documented. OK. Like my parents used to tell me stories. OK.

If a Japanese do war, you know what I mean? A, you know, like a Korean garb and was making fun of, you know what I mean? They oppressed 50 years. What do I give a fuck? 50 years. I mean, my point is, is this is that it doesn't, you know what I mean? If if he has bad intentions, karma will get him or whatever. You know what I mean?

But why would I take that personally? Yeah, it's like, you know, I just with that said, then, wouldn't wouldn't the British people be offended by anyone wearing a crown? Because ultimately, like they used to be a monarchy, right? And that being a queen was a sign of power. So that that wouldn't that be equivalent to us disrespecting them if we wore any type of crown or if Miss Universe wore a crown? You know what I mean?

Like it's like that that was, you know, considered to be like a sign of power or a sign of, you know, yeah. If my if Charlie, my white friend, Charlie, for for for Halloween, were yellow makeup, he'd slender. You know, he taped it back to his eyes back, right? And put a little, you know, I mean, it's more yellow. It's more penis. Yeah, penis dildo and walked around going, I saw, I saw, I saw, right?

Yeah. What is hilarious? Yeah, I would like to give a fuck. So I have a question for you. Do you think that the world would be a better place if we just let all our hang-ups and little sense of cultural sense, yes, like die? Or do you think that it would be a better place if people like you and me were a little bit more culturally sensitive, Bobby? Like we can go either way.

So we know what, no, no, no, no, no, because which way there's no middle. I go with strength. I go with I know who I am. I know, you know what I mean? That number one, I'm equal to anyone else living on planet Earth, right? That I'm a biological, you know, I mean, living thing, right? I'm made up of water and, you know, cells and, you know, energy, you know, and we're all connected.

Okay. I believe that we all, we're all connected with energy. We're connected to nature. All right. And I really believe that. All right. So whatever anyone does, unless they're physically harming my parents or myself or my girlfriend, you know what I mean?

Whatever. I don't care what your opinions are or what you think of me. You know what I mean? Because it's like, I'm fine, right? If I was weak, right? And I didn't like myself and I was, you know, I had, and my character defects were open swords and I could, and I looked at them every day, right? Then I would be offended by, you know what I mean?

The things I see, you know what I mean? On TV, like when I used to see black comics on Def Jam, make fun of Asians constantly, you know, no, no, because in my head, when I saw that, I got like, you know what? I'm going to stand up just so that we can have a voice, right? I don't, I don't write a letter to the NAACPA and go, African Americans are making fun of small dicks on Def Jam. Who gives a shit?

It's comedy. Yeah. All right. So like I go with strength. I have this question for you because Gilbert and I have a friend in common, Jenna. And last summer, she had braids put in her hair before she went to Greece. And there she was at Walgreens, I believe. And some, you know, a black girl was like, why'd you do that?

And was like, thoroughly offended by the fact that Jenna had braids in her hair because Jenna is Mexican and Jewish. And that's another thing. So people really do get sensitive about like cultural appropriation because it's like, look, that, that right there, the braids were put in because for black women, this is what I've been told how they see it is like, look, like we've always been, you know, we know it was hard for us to wear our fro proudly, right? Like for so many years, this wasn't, you know, what was considered beauty and blah,

blah, blah. So, you know, we braided our hair. So they, they, they find so much like, what do I say? Like identity within a particular hairstyle. Right. So what I'm asking you, was it right for that woman to be completely offended by Jenna and Jenna's mind? She's just thinking, look, I think it's beautiful.

Yeah. And I want it on my head and her hair. What I would tell this black woman is that, all right, fine. You believe that? Then stop straight, black women stop straightening your hair. Oh, okay. If that's the rule, no more straightening, but will they do that? No.

No, this is what their argument, because I did read something on this. What? Their argument is that, well, no, because straight hair has always been the standard of beauty. We've always struggled with the fact that we've had frizzy, like frowy hair. So for them, it's like. My point is, is that she's like, you know what I mean? Taking the specific hairstyle and making it their own, you know what I mean?

To hairstyle. Owning it, owning it as if they own it, right? Right. So the same thing. So that we own white hair. Right. So that's what I'm saying is that, like, at the end of the day. Poor blogger.

At the end of the day, this woman who is writing on your Instagram, what's on your head, number one, isn't a sacred headdress. It wasn't given to you for any type of valor as a leader, blah, blah, blah, right? So it's like we, it's just at the end of the day, feathers, beautiful feathers and you warm. I listen. So I think that's like, people get so like angry over things that are just so trivial because it's like we, we hang on to these like supposed like traditions that are

supposed to like distinctly separate us rather than like mix us and put us in the same category. Do you know what I mean? Like, and for someone like Bobby, he never did it to disrespect anyone. He's a comedian. Civilizations. Fade, cultures fade, people get oppressed, other countries take over other countries. Is it right?

No. Is it, is it nature, human nature? Yes, it is. It's human nature. If you see the movie 2001 space Odyssey, the first 30 minutes of the film is caveman. All right, and in this movie, right, one caveman, right, they own their little, they're, they're, they're, they're living by a water supply. It's like a little lake and another group of cavemen come in and attack them and they

take the water supply from them, right? And so, you know what the other cavemen do? They fucking take bones and they make weapons out of them and they come back and slaughter those people, right? Evolution. It's, it's human nature, right? To take what that's not theirs, you know what I mean? It's human nature to get revenge, right?

It's all that stuff, right? I'm not like that, but it's, it's a part of the, the, the meaning to be human. Yeah. All right. And it's like, you know, I'm sorry that that happened to your people. I'm sorry that I wore a fucking headdress, but at the same time, fucking grow up. I have an example for that, for my own, in my own, I'll be in trouble, I'll be in trouble, I'll be in trouble, I'll be in trouble.

I don't think so because, you know what, he told, he just told the whole Native American group to grow up. I know, I'm going to be in so much trouble. And they're old too. Because like, there's, isn't there a saying that goes like, we always judge people by their behavior, but ourselves, um, by our intentions. And you know, it's like, at the end of the day, Bobby did not intend to do any more than just to take a picture with some feathers on his head.

Like that's basically all it was. It was a funny photo. And I want people to make a real fun laugh. And it's like, she, she wrote me a 50 paragraph fucking comment. I was insane on my fucking Instagram. It's like, come on, man. There's a, you know, I have this tattoo on my forearm. And Hawaiians get pissed, right?

No, Hawaiians don't get pissed. Hawaiians only get pissed until I give them a historic, like a history lesson about the, the tattoo culture or the tattoo history of the Philippines that has existed for 500, over 500 years. As a matter of fact, there are, um, like mummified, um, remains found with like tattoo imprints on like their bones and stuff. So that's a Filipino tattoo. This is the Filipino tattoo.

Oh, I didn't know that. But here's another, this is what I'm getting to. Um, so there is a group of people out there who say that, oh, you know, we specifically just do Filipino tattoos and we find the meanings of each pattern and whatnot and whatnot. And only we can create them for you and only you can wear them because you're Filipino. And it's like, no, dude, at the end of the day, it's fucking ink and it's some geometric lines on my forearm. I get to choose what I feel is aesthetically pleasing to keep on my skin for 80 years of

my life. Now, and these are the same people who, when I ask about any type of like history lesson about like tattoo culture in the Philippines have like no idea, no idea about the Kalinga province and no idea of that sort, but they feel some type of ownership towards the fact that only Filipinos can wear this tattoo. And it's like, no, there's a cultural crossover in patterns even with Maori, with other like, you know, with Hawaiians, with Samoans that it's like, we can't own just one pattern. You know, so it's like, it's like, and if a white guy, if I see a soccer player like

Olivier Giroux has some tribal on him, I don't know if it's Maori. I don't know if it's just, it's just tribal. I'm not going to fucking cry about it because my, you know, 500 years ago, the, the, you know, the mountain people of the Philippines like created these like sacred geometric signs. It's like, no, I'm not like, he chooses to wear it because he thinks it's aesthetically pleasing to him. That's his choice. And that's why you're my woman. And I'm not going to be offended by it as a Filipino.

Yeah. You know, and sacred or not, it's like, look, time goes on. I changed my mind. People adapt it, you know, we want to, we find inspiration in like, you know, in, in, in art, right? So we like, we want to either wear it in admiration, wear it out of respect, wear it because we, we like to look at it. And that's just how I see it. I don't think there's any, any type of like ill intention behind it.

I changed my mind. So if you want to be a cheesy dude with like a, you know, tribal tattoo, it looks shitty on you, but I, I'm not going to be mad at you. I apologize. I apologize to the American Indian people. Not really do. I just changed my mind. This, listen, all the things I just said before 30 minutes of my rant.

Okay. I feel bad about it. I'm not going to take the photo down, but I promise my American Indian friends, I will never post another one with a headdress again. Do you know why I say that? Why? Because I don't want to get in trouble like I did with the Vietnamese when I got in trouble with the Vietnamese.

Okay. Okay. I've had enough headaches with these groups and you win. Wow. Okay. I apologize. I'm wrong for having a good time. Okay. And I'm wrong for not understanding what the headdress means.

At least you're in good company. Cause I think Pharrell Williams, Gwen Stefani, and like another person. And the Washington Redskins. The whole time. The whole organization. Talking organization. Right. Thank you.

And the Atlanta Braves. They apologize too. Yeah. But you know, but me and my headdress on my fucking Instagram photo, that's too much. So I apologize and please don't complain. And I'm sorry about all those jokes that you shape shift. You don't, you're raining. You don't know how to make it rain. And what was the last thing I said?

Oh, you don't cry when I litter. No, do they do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think the Leonardo DiCaprio had a speech about Native Americans yesterday and his acceptance speech.

Yeah. Something about how we need to. I don't know why you would. Oh, cause he worked on the revenue. That's probably why. But something about you need to take care of their indigenous lands and give back their lands to them. That I agree with.

Yeah. You could have your land back. That I absolutely agree with. But. Cause I love gambling. No. Comedy time. That's not comedy time.

Oh, you do. I really love Indian reservations and the gambling. Why specifically their reservations? I was the different vibe. I was win. Yeah, I was winning on their thing. Well, tell them about the story about when you were in Fort Lauderdale and how you won the jackpot.

I think I said that already, right? I have no idea what you're talking about. I was in Fort Lauderdale and I was at American Indian reservations. Multiple? Just one. Oh, okay. I just do a plural. He was at the Seminole Hard Rock.

Seminole Hall. I love the Seminole people. I do. Just go on, sweetie. And anyway, great culture. They're Tomahawks or the sharpest. Okay. Fact.

Fact. But anyway, I won on of these nickel slots. I was playing a game that I love called stinkin' rich. Yeah. And I won the jackpot. Like I had, I think I won 8,500 bucks. Oh, nice. On nickel slots.

Nice. And when it was ringing, the thing was, you know, and my, my opener, Adam Ray, who's now doing very well in comedy, but he was there with me. But he was out macking on this girl, right? So I win and the lady comes up. She goes, congratulations.

And the people hovered around. Oh, it's like a movie. And then I go, I go, cool. She goes, let me see your license. You know, I go, oh yeah, but my license is expired. And she goes, well, you can't get the money then. It's a thing. Yeah.

Oh, mind you, he was playing at their comedy club next door. Yeah. They had to know who you were too. Yeah, I dropped my name, trust me. Well, I'm the headliner of the club. You know what I mean? I, I know I understand that, but you can't. Yeah, it's just law.

I go, well, what do I need to do? She's like, either renew your license, but then you have a window of three working days to get it to us. They go, I don't live here. I live in LA. And like, do you have a passport? I go, yeah, but it's at my house.

She's like, well, you can, because I was leaving the next morning. Like it was literally like two in the morning and in three hours, I'm leaving. I'm going to a plane to go back to LA. She's like, well, you can fly back, grab your passport and fly back with it. Good idea, lady.

And I go, I'm not fucking doing that. Let me see your boss. So I went up to an office where I, this is just a coincidental thing. There was an American Indian man there. I knew it. Yeah. And a chief, a chief. And I just said, listen, because I understand,

but there's like IRS rules or I don't know what it was. So like, I couldn't get my money. That's $8,500. Wow. Yeah. I'd be so pissed. Imagine that, Gilbert.

That's a lot of money for you and me. Yeah. That might not be a lot for him. It was a lot because it's like free. And I won. I never win anything. And you won fair and square. I won fair and square.

And then we went back last year. And then he lost two grand on slots. And I had to win it back on Blackjack. She's very good at gambling, dude. Not just Blackjack. Poker, maybe. She's patient. She's very, very good.

There's no patience in Blackjack. You either hit or you don't. You just, you know. No, no, no. She's like, she knows when to hit. She knows when to fold them too. And it also. Ooh.

She knows how to hit them and fold them. Yeah. Cards. That isn't that a dating show. It's a Kenny Rogers song. It's a Kenny Rogers song. Yeah. It's on a commercial.

Gilbert Cheeses. We know about, you know my music history. You don't know anything about. You already know. I know a lot about Will Smith. Oh, okay. Sky, I just want to bring something up. So when, in the beginning of this podcast,

a few months ago, early episodes of this podcast, we told Gilbert that if he didn't date an Asian girl within the next six months, that he would be fired. It's not six months. And as far as I know, he has yet to even so much as ask a girl on a date, even attempt to show any interest in any Asian girls. He refuses all the Asian girls pictures

that I show him. He's like, nope, can't do it. Can't do it. But I understand Gilbert, though. Oh, you weren't understanding when he first mentioned that. I understand it now. Also this, I went on two tinder dates with Asian girls. And it was more personality.

I just couldn't. Yeah. It's like with it. Here's what it is, though, with Asian women, okay? It's that they generally want a cleaner cut traditional Asian dude that has a job, right? That's like nine to five. And there are short talkers.

She asked me what my nine to five was. That was like the first question. Yeah. I said, nodding. You know, so it's like when I, you know, I only did one Asian chick aside from you. And that was John, you know, John's girl that she he dated for years.

John Cho? Yeah. David Cho, I mean, David, David Cho. Oh, yeah. Sorry, David Cho. And that was Patty and she was a Power Ranger. We've already been through this. I know.

I'm just saying though. I know she's a Power Ranger now. So my point though is, is that and the rest of them, they don't like me. Black chicks too. Black chicks hate me. They like me. I don't know.

I think they like my eyes and they like the way I move. I hooked up with a black chick in St. Louis. How was that? Don't say it, Bobby. You've said it before and it's like, ugh, it has nothing to do with being black. It just had everything to do with poor hygiene. Oh, I see.

Okay. Her vagina smelled like hot blood. That's all I'm saying. Oh, that's delicious. Yeah, but it's not because she's black. No, it's curled. It's because she just, you know, doesn't wash her vagina. I don't know.

I'm just saying though. I know some white girls who are nasty. You don't shower. Me too. That one girl, comedian girl. He's, oh, okay. The one who, who's poop you had to flick off her butt? No.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to say that either. Yeah. Chelsea Handler. No, I love her. I miss her. I love Chelsea. So are we not going to fire Gilbert then

if he doesn't date any? I think I'm going to let you go. I'm going to let you go. I'll be honest. I want to try. Okay. I do want to try. How about this?

Why don't we do this? Why don't we do this? So you're opening for me this weekend in Irvine at the Impro. Hosting, yeah. You're opening. You're hosting. Is that what it's called? Yeah.

So you're going to do 10, 15 minutes up front. Yeah. Okay. At the end of your sets, this is what I want you to say. I'll bring up a girl on stage. No, no, no. Asian girl.

I don't want you to do that. Oh. I want you to say this. Hi. So that was my set and the people clap. And I want you to say this. So, um, Bobby wants me to do this, right? You know, I'm single and I've never really

dated an Asian girl, right? So if you're an Asian girl and you find me attractive, come after me after the show. Come after me. How sad if nobody shows up. It doesn't matter. You have to do that. I'll do it.

All right. But preferably, preferably Asian girls that look like Asian girls look like Asian boys. Fuck you. So he can give you the full Gilbert. Yeah. The full 60. I really, I honestly think that you're gay.

I know that. You know that, right? Yes. I also think you're very gay as well. Because you grab my crotch all the time. Yeah. We were at a meeting today and all three of us, we met with some, with a guy named Howard.

And the whole time it's like, I'm looking, I feel like I'm being cuckolded. I feel like that's all you do when the three of us are together, Bobby, is that you just always go for Gilbert's dick. Like you always, that's your first thing to do. That's your first to do of the day. I think it's, it's because you're mentoring me, right?

Yeah. This is part of the, got it. I'm mentoring you. Yeah. I am. Oh no, mom. I was just putting this penis in my butt. It's lesson number two.

Oh, your mom's listening. That's right. Yeah. He's not gay. What's your last name? Would your parents be upset because they want grandchildren? Or do you think they'd be open if you came out? Oh my God.

They're Filipino. They would hate it. That's not true. Filipinos, I mean, gay people in the Philippines are... Yeah, but I'm like the son. Like I'm the first grandchild. Yeah. So do you think they would disown you?

They wouldn't disown me. Okay, let's say you are gay. Yeah. And I'm your dad. I want you to see how you, Oh God. Let's role play. I want to see how you would do it.

Are we speaking the same tone? No, that's just being in English because I don't know what your dad sounds like. He'll call him Gigi Boy. Gigi Boy. Gigi Boy. Yeah, Pa. So you want to talk to me?

You called me, dad. Oh yeah, I called you. How are you? Good, good, good, good. Okay. Yeah, how's work? That's good, you know. My back hurts because I've been lifting all that dick.

Pa, what did I tell you about lifting dick at work? Oh yeah, I don't know what I do, but yeah, my back hurts by working hard. Great. Also, stop talking like a Korean guy. Okay. Thank you. So you want to talk to me about something?

Yeah, can I... Fuck, I don't know. Sighted in the last night. What? Sighted in the last night. That's not how you would do it. Oh, I tried to... I want to be real.

Oh, is this real? Yeah, yeah. Okay, oh, this is real. Yeah, I want you to really... I want you to see how you would do it, because I don't even know how I would do it to my parents. For my parents, this is so easy. That's what I do.

Go ahead, ask me. Pa. Yes, Gilbert? Yeah. You want to talk to me about something? I do. What is it? I'm gay.

What? Do you know my best friend, Sean? Yeah. Yeah. It's not him I'm gay with. Who? You know the guy that I do a podcast with? Dad, stop laughing. You know the guy I do a podcast with from Mad TV?

You mean the fed Asian guy? Yeah. With the mustache? The mustache. Yeah. He's gay. Dad, stop fucking laughing. I'm trying to be serious here.

You know, the beautiful Filipino girl that he was dating? Yeah. She's also a man. Guys, is mom there too? Is mom laughing in the back? Fuck mom. Mom, stop. So you're doing three way with these three ways?

Three ways. Yeah. Two, three dudes. Three dudes. Just a couple of dudes. And you know, yeah. This is how, this is what happened with my, with what I did with my parents.

Bubby. Appa? Why are you in my house? I just want to, I want to talk to you about something. Okay. You know, I love you so much. I love you, mom. And mom so much.

And I just, I, for years I just, I just, I wanted to tell you that, um. What's wrong with your foot? I have, I have, um. Bubby, what's wrong with your foot? Fuck, it's on my foot. Okay, continue. And hey, um, then I'm, um, I'm, I'm homosexual.

Homo, what the? Homosexual. Homo, what the? You know what he would do? What? He would hit you, wouldn't he? I don't think he would hit me. I think he would just like close the door.

But even in this stage of your life, you seem to, your dad, you guys are all like, closer now, like this whole. Yeah, because I'm not gay. You know what I mean? Because if you threw that element in, I don't know. I really don't know. I think my mom would be cool.

You're still paying for all their stuff. Like you're taking care of your parents. What if they, what if they, what if they said, we don't want it anymore, whatever, you know what I mean? I don't know. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I, my dad is old school, you know,

traditional Korean dude. He wasn't hard enough to tell him that I was a stand up, right? Yeah. I mean, that was a big deal. You know, for me to say that I'm homosexual, like when people, when people come out to their parents,

I understand why it's a hard thing to do because it's like, you know, some people are, me, if my, if Khalil and I had a kid and he said that he was gay, I wouldn't be completely 100% fine with it. You know, I really would. I have no problem with that.

So it's like, um, I understand why people have a hard time doing it, you know? So, um, would you have, your mom would be cool with it, right? Yeah, I don't think my mom would care either way. She'd just be like, like, you know, she'd be more grossed out about me

getting into, you know, pussy, I guess. She'd be like, why you like that? Anak, you're eating out Jess? Anak! You're eating out Jessica? Anak, why do you like Boto? Anak! You know, she'd probably just feel more

grossed out about it because she's not into pussy. Do your parents both of you bug you about grandkids at this stage or not really? They don't give a shit. I think my parents have accepted that they're not going to have any. From you and Steve, really? Yeah, because even you now with Khalilah? Yeah, I mean, they love Khalilah and if it happens,

I think they'd be very happy, very happy. But I don't think that, especially with Steve, they just know, no way. And with me, I mean, it would have happened by now, I think. Still can. I want one, you know, but yeah, I think that it would be a really good surprise for them if I did have

a baby. I think that your mom would be the best grandma ever. I would make sure that that child learned Korean for sure. And I already talked to your mom about this. It's like, that's the one thing that I want to prioritize. It's like that our child

be like multilingual and that they understand, you know, their Korean side, that they understand their Filipino side. Spanish, just for the have to know it. I mean, yeah, I feel like if you live in LA, you have to know a little bit of Spanish. Can I just do this diet for two days, baby? You look so malnourished right now.

I feel so malnourished and I have a headache and I just feel weak. Okay, you're just a quitter. I'll do it then. It's up to you. No, I'll do it then. You know what, can I say something? When you're about to get upset, I can see I know in your eyes. Why am I upset?

No, in your eyes. I know your eyes, babe. My eyes are the same all the time. No, no, no, no. I know you get in this thing where your eyes cross a little bit. They do. That's a 24-7. 24-7 thing. What are you talking about? Your face gets crumbly.

My face gets crumbly? A little bit, yeah. I'm not going to do it. I want to do five days. I know what you mean by my ears pull back. So when I get upset, you can tell her like annoyed. You just got annoyed so we're going to do it. Look, look. Do you want to do it?

I'm really happy that you took the first step in getting a physical from a doctor. I'm just not a nagger by nature. So I feel like this is something we agreed on but if you don't want to do it, I'm not here to force you.

I want to help you if you want it but I'm not here to force feed you. That's not how I want our relationship to be. You're a grown-ass man, Bobby. I'm going to keep doing it. One day at a time. I would like that if you

just gave it a chance. One day at a time. So some new movies came out on iTunes. One of them was The Last Witcher. I have no idea what that is. What else is out there? You're a dick. Why?

You're a dick. I know where you were going with that. No, I'm telling you today some new movies came out on iTunes which is The Last Witch Hunter with Vin Diesel. No, it's with Ryan Reynolds. You know what I mean?

I think I want to watch it. Good for you. Let's move on. I bought a couple of other movies on iTunes. I bought it. Hashtag I'm Team Kalyla. I bought all of the Fast and Furious.

Jake Gyllenhaal. Great Jake Gyllenhaal films. Do we have any questions, Gilbert? Today we'll do Twitter questions. And... The fucking eyes. I can see the eyes between them. That's what I wanted to ask you before we get into the questions. Since you almost...

I know one of you guys has complaints about the podcast is when we get into these like inside joke type situations and you guys don't understand what the fuck we're talking about. Bobby mentioned a movie that he's accusing me

of hooking up with a celebrity and that I never, never, never did. But... I believe that Kalyla made out with Vin Diesel. Why do you believe that? Because you told me that. You fucking dumb shit.

When did I tell you that? Today! I've known it a couple yesterday, the other day. No, I said... Careful, your eye contact fell. I said my friend dated him. But somehow in your mind because you get insecure about... In the car that you made out with him

and then you said to me, don't you ever tell anybody that I did. And then I said I was going to mention in the podcast. So if you're listening to it right now the inside joke is and she only did it once and she's not attracted to him because he's gay, is that you made out with Vin Diesel when she was drunk and that's fine. My ex-girlfriend

right? I'm not going to say her name. Don't say her name. Hooked up with another celebrity, I'd fine with it. Look, listen. Except what you're saying is a thousand percent false. All I ever said was that I had a friend

who dated him while we were nineteen years old. But in your little convoluted mind and in your little convoluted fucking insecurity you turned that friend into me. I did not ever touch Vin Diesel. Okay, that's fine. And never ever paint me to be

anybody who's ever tried to star fuck or try to get with any celebrity because that certainly isn't who I am. It's not who you are. And I mean not to say that it would be bad if I did. I'd be proud of it. I apologize. So apologize. I apologize. Because that is a bad rumor to spread.

You did not make out with Vin Diesel. Thank you. But let me say this right now. If you're lying to me right now though, on air, right? Something very bad is going to happen to me. What? I'm going to die. You're not going to die. I am going to die. Okay, well I'm not lying to you. That's on you. So you want me to die.

Why do you believe in your heart that I did? What makes you... You told me that yesterday. I love how you just fucking fabricate and push it out your ass. Unhelpful advice with Bobby is in trouble and Kaleila. Question from Twitter

comes from MUNX420. Was Bobby a relapser before he got completely sober? I got sober several times. I got sober when I was 16 years old. I went to a place called Ocean View Recovery Center.

I relapsed right after that. Then the next rehab I went to was like a detox. I relapsed after that. And the third one, when I was 17 between my junior and senior year I went to a place called the McDonald's Center and I got sober then.

I stayed sober for 12 years. I relapsed. I went out for like two and a half years. I got sober again and now I have another almost 14 years. So during this what were your triggers for relapsing? Do you remember? Do you remember the part?

Each time you finally... My suggestion for anybody and it's... Everyone has their own opinion. I truly believe that my way is the only way to do it. But I could be wrong. It's just that you have to immerse yourself

in a 12-step group. You have to really get involved in it. Get a sponsor. You go to a lot of meetings. You do a lot of surface work. You do a lot of, you know what I mean? That type of thing. And then you'll stay sober. And that's the only way that I've seen

it work. But I could be completely wrong too. You are completely wrong. I know she gave me an example about her. There's a difference between in my opinion though is... Yeah, you can get sober without going

to meetings and stuff. But we have a terminology for that and that's called dry drunk. Because the thing is alcoholism is just a symptom of your disease. So it's basically we're really drinking and doing drugs and all these things of a deeper problem.

To deal with that deeper problem is you have to take away the drugs and alcohol. But that's not getting sober. Mm-hmm. Getting sober is finding out what the real issue is by doing the steps that they laid out.

Okay? And by the 10-step when you're wrong, you probably admit it. You know what I mean? There's these life tools. So it's like... I know a lot of guys that goes I quit August 12, 1996

but they're angry. They don't live spiritual lives and we call them dry drunks and that's just as bad as drinking. But don't you think it's a little bit arrogant to say that that's the only way to get sober is to be a part of AA? Yeah, I mean statistically

we have... You know what I mean? Well statistically only like 1% of people AA actually or 5% stay sober. For instance, my sister in the Philippines, people consider

what happened to her to be really, really harsh or what my dad did to be really harsh. But I got her sober. Look, she was a methhead. She had gone into prostitution. While she was in med school she graduated high school as a valedictorian went and got into med school

and my other sister while in med school she found her way into Shabu and Shabu is meth and she was solid on it for about 7 years got to maybe 80 pounds

and I remember this particular instance when she came home high out of her mind with the most gangrenous gaping disgusting foul smelling wound that just refused to heal at that point because she didn't have an immune system like that's how fucked up she was

she was just all bones and just really just like the typical picture of a methhead right and she had gotten to like a motorcycle accident and my dad looked at her her wound and it was like I have no choice and I remember looking at her

and her not making sense anymore she would start speaking to herself it was like watching a schizophrenic she would start screaming like charlie charlie and it's like who the fuck is charlie she would talk to just the fucking air and so what my dad did was like look

he wasn't aware it was so severe she had no insight into her disease anymore her rock bottom she had no insight into what rock bottom was like that was rock bottom my dad didn't put a shelter over her head my dad didn't give her any money

nobody in our family was enabling her that was rock bottom she was about to die the next day she couldn't she didn't have the insight so what my dad did was he of course illegally but this is the philippines he sedated her

he cuffed her he cleared out a room in our house he cuffed her he shaved her head he sedated her and basically put her through like an in-home detox I watched my sister withdraw she looked like the exorcist I was 10 years old her body was just convulsing

up and down on the hardwood floor screaming for days shivering crying just going through like a detox right and when she woke up she was in cuffs in the back of a police car and she was in a lockdown facility boot camp for a whole year and not allowed to see anybody

no family no nothing and she came out sober and people told my dad you were a bad man for doing that but what happened my sister's married to a lawyer she's a nurse now she has four kids good for her she never looked back so

what I'm saying is as much as I do believe AA works and I do support Bobby I do support everything that he says and I would encourage anybody in the attic to go through that I'm just saying that might not be the only route to sobriety and you know there's

you know that's it that's all I'm saying I want to say this okay is that yes it's a 5% statistical you know what I mean the thing is is that that's based on everyone that's ever been

to an AA meeting okay but what you see is the 5% that do stay sober they're all there right so it's like when you're walking into a room like if you go to the Pacific route meeting you know it's like a thousand people in

Pacific Palisades they have they go to this church on Wednesday nights right they have probably 900 people in there men and women that have over 30 to 40 years of sobriety okay so it's like

when people go to AA they're being forced by either court ordered or their parents make them go or whatever right but what I'm saying is is that if you desperately need to get sober and you don't know how

right you go to a meeting because that's where people with long to sobriety are there that did it you know I do like that part about AA a lot where it's like they to give back to like the community like they see a person in need

even if that person doesn't doesn't have insight into the fact that they need to get sober maybe they'll be like hey just come to this meeting you know with me and just sit even if you're high out of mind just sit here at this meeting and see like where it goes right I really like that part that aspect of AA

and what I'm saying is that since the 1930s right before that there was absolutely no solution if you were an alcoholic unless you went to church or had a religious experience right you're done

you're dead yeah you know and it's like since the 1930s right 5% is still millions and millions of people that it saved their lives you know and these are people with 50 some people have

50 60 years of sobriety you know I mean so it's like for me I've learned life and everything that I need to know about life through that program I don't want to be a Nazi about it and that's just my opinion and I could be wrong again you could be right

all I'm saying is that from what I see and the people that I know that have long-term sobriety that's the way they did it interesting the reason I do I'm not disagreeing with you

but I'm saying the same lessons or the same steps that you guys you know do in AA is pretty much adopted in many other treatment facilities as well like so it's very similar

like even when I go see a therapist like all the things that I learned to cope with life and my fears, my anxieties, my depression are all similar things to things they preach in AA so I think it all goes like hand in hand

I don't think we're supposed to be talking about it to be honest with you I really don't let's talk about UFC this is going to be a good weekend it's not a pay-per-view but we have a fight night T.J. Dillishaw vs. Dominic Cruz this Sunday on Fox Sports One I believe it's Sunday

we're going to be in Irvine we can still watch it because it's on FS One here's my thing give him a little background so for people who aren't that MMA savvy or UFC savvy T.J. Dillishaw is a Bantamweight champion today

at 135 and Dominic Cruz who he's fighting used to be the champion but he hasn't fought a lot in the last four years he's had injury after injury since 2011 he's had knee injuries a lot of other injuries

and he was the champion he was stripped from the championship T.J. Dillishaw is another champion he beat Ren Barrao and he dismantled Ren Barrao twice and

he's a very talented guy but T.J. Dillishaw's style he stole it pretty much from Dominic Cruz he used to have to mimic it for Uriah Faber when Uriah was fighting Cruz and Dominic Cruz has been out of the game

he did fight that Japanese dude a year ago in Brazil and destroyed him but my point is that I really want Dominic Cruz to win other than the fact that he's from San Diego and he sounds like a San Diego guy

when he talks he's a San Diego guy he's just smart and cool man your voice changed he's a smart cool dude he's a smart cool dude and he's going to make it happen I'm going to step out for a second

you're good and for those of you who don't care about the MMA talk you can shut it down your thoughts on the actual fight so you have two guys a footwork type of guy I'm more concerned with the fact that he did fight

recently Dominic Cruz did but I still think that there's a degree of ring rust in the sense that he hasn't fought anybody like T.J. Dilesha's caliber in years let's be real and also

T.J. Dilesha who did he fight before and on Baral Soto he didn't look that good there that's a scrub that was a weird fight but then with Henan Baral it was just so

it's undeniable the kid is so fast they have the same pretty much style I will say it's the same style except that T.J. it's footwork but pressure stand up forward Dominic is footwork avoid a lot like backing up with footwork

in and out I feel like T.J. is more like I will take the fight to Dominic that makes any sense I think that what Dominic Cruz said during that John Annick showdown

counter punch please watch it guys it's hilarious what he said that T.J. Dilesha is only good with stationary targets that could be a thing I want Dominic Cruz to come back

and win this because I've missed watching him and I want him to be on top of the game and he's also just like a really like eloquent intelligent and he's a good face for 135 I want a champion who is well spoken smart

someone who sells well someone who's able to talk like he does because he's an MMA analyst so for this fight we know you want Dominic so choose who wins and what round and by how do you want Cruz or do you want

the snake in the grass I'm going to go with who's going to actually win don't follow your heart follow your mind my mind says it's going to be Dilesha alright what round I think that

on the fourth round Dilesha fourth round KO not KO maybe TKO maybe stoppage I will also agree with clients that I want Dominic Cruz to win so bad but I'm going to have to say TJ

just to mix it up I'll say third round KO what about Anthony Pettis and Eddie Alvarez for 155 phenomenal co-man by the way co-made event for a free card this is a free card it's amazing so we have Anthony Pettis

you guys know who he is he is the former lightweight champion I don't know man he looks so bad but also people don't realize just what a beast Dilesha is I think everybody underestimated him

and then you have Eddie Alvarez I want to almost like a journeyman people hype him up but it's like I'm going to go with Pettis for this one that's who I feel strong about I don't really care for me Trio and Travis Brown anything can happen in a heavyweight match

I see me Trio fuck Travis Brown fuck Travis Brown you know why because you made fun of Brandon Schaub and Brandon Schaub is a homeboy boom has he moved the canary has he moved the canary

yeah he's been moving the canary around the one fight that I'm really looking forward to because this guy was my favorite fighter of 2015 is Paul Felder I realized that he did lose to Ross Pearson you will not get off his nuts so much and I feel like when he lost

that was a really great fight Ross Pearson and it went to it was a split decision do you remember that and it could have gone either way but I love everything about Paul Felder and all my money is on him against Darian Cruikshank he was also a very fun Taekwondo guy

so lots of kicks that would be a fun fight fight of the night yeah fight of the night I say is there anything else on that card now you guys Bobby and Gilbert are going to be at the Irvine Improv

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for that and is there anything else we're missing I feel like we're missing something else we probably are but in any case we'll see you guys next week bye hey Prime members you can listen to Tiger Belly

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