TigerBelly - Episode 85: Jordan Peele is our GOAT
Episode Date: April 5, 2017The great Jordan Peele joins us to talk about high elves, hateboxes, sea monkeys, resignation syndrome, evolved Asians, white protagonists, internment camps, sunken places, bronsons, brosnans..., wishingtons, deep brotherly love, and reciprocity.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Yeah
What do you think of that man? Was that Wade in the water? Yes. Wow. What the fuck do you say Wade in the water?
Yes, that's what it is
You look very nice today. Thank you for your hair. I came from a premiere. What what premiere? It's called the Sun on AMC
I saw Pierce Bronson. I rubbed his shoulder. Yo, was that over there at the arc line?
Oh, who's that Elizabeth Taylor the one that the girl that complains my girl on love. Oh on the Sun. Yeah, fuck that
Why fuck it because we have a fucking guest. Oh
Talk about that. No, that's true. All right, you fucking fancy-ass Asian dude. Thank you. Okay, you guys
Um, I I really believe that this is the best guest we've had on TV
A lot of expectations no
Dude, I'm telling you right now, dude. It's like, you know, you learn you meet people, you know, you you connect
You work you you can you connect on a spiritual level, you know what I mean?
And
Years ago, I was on a sketch show
called mad TV and
15 Mexicans watched it. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, and they loved it
They loved it and I met a young man
While I was on that show
Who got cast by the name of Jordan Peele and he's with us right now. How about a round of applause for this?
This guy right here. All right. Thank you. That's beautiful. It's a weird. I loved it
I loved it. I didn't expect it. No, no last of a generous. Yeah, we are we are we're I would call us very very good friend
Yes, I would say that too because we worked for five years together
Yeah, and we'd not only this the work part, but we had adventures bro. We had adventures. Yeah, we had a bond of
Disgust for what we were doing
We had we had a fear of how it was coming off. Yeah, and we banded together. Yeah an anger almost anger. Definitely. Yeah
You just I just want to call it. You said Pierce Bronson. Yeah, that's that's absolutely not as that's not right
Brosnan Brosnan. Yeah, how do you say it?
Brosnan. Yeah, you know what I apologize. I apologize. It's just one of these jungle gooks
No, it's fine. It's fine. I apologize. I come here. I want to talk about
Bronson
Bronson you fucking asshole
Bronson Bronson. Yes
Perfect strangers didn't didn't start
Brosnan pincho
It was one of these but can I just say that he should have changed his name. Why because it's too close to Pierce Bronson
Yeah, brosman, whatever
See what I'm saying. It's like you got it's like if somebody said like I started and there's already a Bobby Lele
Yeah, yeah, that's bulky. That's bulky. That's bulky. Yeah, and that'd be like I'm gonna change it to hero Hito
Oh, whatever it might be. You know, I just you know, I it's one of the item, you know, if your name was Denzel, Wishington, right?
Would you change it? That is a perfect like that's a perfect. Yeah college football name
Yeah, yeah, so
We go way back we go way back a lot of a lot of adventures a lot of adventures. We were there in Houston when
What's his name George St. Pierre lost to Matt Sarah? Oh?
Oh, because we're doing we were hired by the UFC only one time to do commentary. That's right, right
Not coming to we did some sort of like brought we interviewed people or something
But my my brain yeah, I know much weed or something. Yeah, I don't remember did so what was it like red carpet style?
We were like talking something like that. Yeah, it was uncomfortable. Yeah, that was a fluke though
GSP should have never lost that fight. Good. Yes. That was true. It came back and destroyed Matt Sarah
But could I just say this he did lose he did lose
No, that's a fluke and that's a fact and it was it was not the best fight either
I remember I remember feeling like being there in person was not not as good at right
As we were actually escorted into the octagon at one point before the thing and we got to walk around
Yeah, what I want to get to the bottom of what it was
Because because it was one of these things where we were on yeah, we were on Matt TV. So it was like we were
You know, we we basically called somebody when we're invited when Matt TV is invited to do anything
We show up on time and we're like fuck anything, but
Being at Hollywood Center studios
Have you had Matt TV people on this show before?
No, no. No. Yeah, you're the first
Yeah, it was uh, I don't know. How do you feel about was it a was it a
of a fun time
Well, I was on there way longer than you you left that was there with Keegan a couple years remember
And um, totally the last two years were it was awful
It's getting it was getting grim
It was grim because we had to move and then they cut the budget for half
Yeah, you know me and then we had these young kids that came up like Johnny Sanchez and matt bronger and kids
Johnny Sanchez is, you know, of course much older than I am for example
Me easy. Yeah, I know. Yeah. No, he's not a kid. I think on his behalf. I object to that. I know. Yeah
He was 80. He was like 79 years old younger kid, but what I meant by in career wise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Even so he's right. He's a vet. He's a vet. Yeah. It was a comedy vet. But yeah, it got grim but the um
I just remember us being just kind of like always complaining and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was it. No advertisement
I mean, imagine this you have Ike Barron holds, right? You have key and peel
You got me
You got you got you got you got you got uh, Stephanie. We're you Michael mcdonald airy spears. Yeah, well
He's a he's a he's a very talented. He's a beast. Yeah. Um
Um, come on. You gotta be real guy. Give it up. I got crushes, but I did. I know, but I did
I've talked about on this podcast. I I talked about him a couple times on radio how mean
Me and he was toward me at times and what doing the fucking mad tv reunion
He was there, which by the way, I saw I saw just your and Ike sketch and it was great
Oh when I was living in the fucking thing
Classic old school
Weirdo shit
And he go yo, man, can I talk to you? I go? Yeah, he goes I sat next to areas
And he had it fucking queued up the radio interview from like Seattle from six years ago
Why'd you say this and he plays in front of me and I just started laughing. That's why
Yeah, let's start laughing. There's no there's no real consequences for you
With anything right you can kind of get away with anything. Well, I get in trouble a lot
But by who I get in trouble by my my agents will say stuff my manager will say stuff and um, you know, I've had some
Really horrific, you know show business tales that you don't know about you know that happened to me, right and um
Things that I fucked up
And um, I've had to answer to all those things. It's interesting because
Comedically speaking you can get away with anything true and that's what's really important and my for for me as a friend
Yes, I mean I did that comedy central thing and I don't make it my dick was out
And I can do things like that and but the thing is is that's me
I'm not doing anything, but
Me, right, baby. I'm sweet. That's right. Yeah
So I hear you're you're responsible for his crippling video game addiction
Oh, I wouldn't call it to the whole video game. It is
Yeah, that's me you all right, so I introduced you
I introduced him to the Bethesda like Morrowind and fallout
That's the dose of the two those are the two and you went you went you went dark deep into it
Like I was into it. I was like I had like a month where I was like, dude, Bobby, you're gonna get so immersed
Yeah, and then like I like four months later. Yeah, you're like, I'm collecting chrysanthemum bags
Like you're you're like four months later. You're like, I can I can if you collect 100 chrysanthemum bottles
You can turn them into an orb and I was like, who cares who cares?
It's not it's not a
They have a online role-playing games now. You can no that's not for me. No, I like
Here's what you introduced me to the grind
Right like with Skyrim
This cave has all the blisterwort mushrooms that you can collect and they and it like what regenerates every week
Right so I'll fast forward a week in the game time just so that I can get more blisterwort
Right so I can make potions to make smithing better, right which which was kind of what
You know made me drop off of the game at a certain point. It felt so like you can just grind forever
Yes, I love it. He's been grinding forever. It was like 10 years ago. Yeah
A decade ago. Seriously. It was it probably was straight up
2007 I understand that I understand 2007, but let me say this. Okay. Yeah, I would have never fucking known about it
If you didn't go, hey, you should check out moral wind
Like what the fuck is it? So I went to fucking whatever the place is, you know to get it
I bought it and I've been in it since
Yeah, and you start over new characters
every time
Especially with the with this the Bethesda games and also
Skyrim or the Elder Scrolls
There's eight races
Right, you can be a agorian
You can be the khajiit the cat people. No, I know I've you know, I've played the game. No, no, I know
I know
Nord yeah, Nord
A brent brenton right fuck. Yeah. See what I'm saying right now. Maybe the the dark elves. You can be the light elves
Exactly right there. Hi elves. Yeah, they don't call them. Yeah, light elves
Adronian
Yeah, that the yeah the um the lizards. Yeah, do you ever find yourself like okay? It's 3 30 in the morning 4 in the morning
You're just you're up in some like snowy hill. You're you're you know
Beautiful music's playing and you look out at the scenery and you realize it's it's a dead world
No, it's an empty dead world. It comes to life for me
And it doesn't lose you don't get that because I think he's a conqueror at heart
He's like you you like to colonialize
empty barren areas of the land
You weren't there with during my drug usage at mad tv. You came on after you only knew sober bobby. That's right. Yeah
You also turned me on to things like
Um solitude what's solitude? Oh rumor. What's that the game show the game show solitary solitary is what it is
Oh, I'm sorry my bad. Have you guys seen this? No, no one of the best game shows
The reality should the the 12 year old knows it
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it is everybody's
And the crazy thing about it what everybody's eight contestants are in their own solitary confinement going crazy
The whole thing is they have to challenge themselves
You know the val or whoever is like hi. Welcome. She's yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and she's like you must
You know eat all these bugs until all of the other ones quit
There's something like and you have to push yourself as far as you can right there's like eight or nine contestants in these rooms
Right. This is a reality show obviously not in america. Yeah, it's in america. It is on reality fox reality fox reality
Like they don't have a pole, right?
And you have to just you know me hang on to the pole
Where's foot drops onto the floor is eliminated
So then like 12 hours or you have like three white dudes left, you know me clinging on yeah, but they can't see each other
You don't know. Oh, so you don't know how well they're doing so it's you got to master your own will then
Wow, and when you when you fall you got to hope that you were the left
So some fool could be there for 12 hours just hanging by himself
But you know the the fascinating thing about that show was bobby that I know you must have loved
Is it seemed to prove that asian people had a pain tolerance and endurance and push themselves asian guys or girls
Fucking went the crazy and that's you know what that's called my friend
evolution
You really just look at me right now
Then why is it why is it
I'm asian too
I know you are I know but she's half half french
I'm half egyptian
Egyptian whatever it is
Whatever it is
It's half of something whatever it is
Alright, let me see something right now, okay?
You alright?
Yeah, yeah
It's an evolution
Look at the hair. There's no hair on my arm
You're saying that asian people are a higher form of humanity
I didn't say that
They say higher
Different
I said different
Not even progressed
Just different
A little smarter, a little hairless
You know what I mean?
And a little bit more evolved
More evolved
That's what we're saying
More evolved so that
I didn't say any of those higher
I didn't say higher
For instance, China
I love it
Such an ancient civilization
So you think that
How is that like the final stage of evolution?
It's not the final we're still
We're still evolving my friend
You just built for torture
You can flip it
You can say your evolved are also just built for torture
It's true, I mean how come like every Korean movie
It's like
Somebody's getting
Torture
Especially Korean
Japanese is the weird
It's torture
Shame and torture
Remember audition
With the chicken wire
Chicken wire
That was the best
Did anybody jerk off to that?
Read that scene specifically
Just one hand up
I did find it strangely
Her sexy
She was definitely sexy
That's crazy
She just looked so just porcelain
Innocent and unsuspecting
There was another one
Where a girl crawls out of a woman's vagina
I think Goju it was or something like that
Same guys
Mikae
Same dude
I haven't seen that one
Have you seen the wailing yet?
I saw the wailing
Hold up
Is it the cats?
Do you want a legra?
Bring her in here
I'll have an legra
I'm so sorry about the cats
No problem
But
That one was cool
That was classic Korean bat shit
Crazy cool
We got Defconn 5
I'm in
Is that better?
Get some Dr. Pepper
As long as you throw it it's not closing up
I'm good
It's just going to be
Do a ton of sneezes
You're not going to open it for a fucker?
Touch it?
It's one of those fucking
Pierce fucking
I got it
I got it
Imagine it just
Instantly works right now
Can I have some tissues as well?
Get some tissues Jordan
Is this fucking director?
This is how it always works
Reality is the real
It's part of the thing
The wailing was
It was weird
I had to
rewatch it and google everything
Because I was still very confused about the ending
Because it could be interpreted several different ways
And I googled it too
And from what I can tell it's like
No one really knows
Subject to your interpretation
Now I want to get to
Since we're talking about horror movies
I'll have to be honest with you
My friend
I regret watching
The movie directed Get Out
Because
My thought of you
And my perception of you
Changed
Before
When you're doing Key and Peel
You go yeah
I know it's great
But I've seen it
I know that he can do that
I've witnessed it live for years
I know your talent level
And I know that you're an extremely creative dude
And you have a good work ethic
But when I saw Get Out
I was going
What the fuck this is next level
And I regret watching it
Because then now
And now it's fine
When I saw you it's fine
Because we lock eyes
We're in
But there is a moment
Where you go wow
That's the next level
He's out of this world
He's beyond the comedy
It's a different category now
And then when you see the dude
It's almost as if
You turned into
JJ Abrams in a weird way
Wow that's great
No because it's I'll tell you why
It's not because you directed a fucking movie
Because I have friends that all directed a fucking movie
When you know you've been to your friends movies
And you watch it and you go that's the worst piece
That you should ever put on the scene
And then when they go what would you think
It's great
It's never gonna get distributed
You're filling out the things after the thing
You just go right into that
We're not going to talk right now
Because I want to give you some good
But when you watch Get Out
You're going number one I've never seen this before
Ever this type of movie
It's so relevant
It's very social in many ways
But it's also weird
It's got sort of like a
Jacob's Ladder kind of a vibe to it
Where it's like it's just got a weird
Vibe in itself
The energy of the movie
And it does
It wins at the end which is great
My only problem with it
Is why the fuck
Is there an old Japanese dude
With the white people
And this is like
Seems to be like
A talking point
People are writing essays about this
I'll tell you in a second
But I do want to say
Since the beginning of my career in Hollywood
You have been one of the people
Who has always believed in me
Maybe to some
Maybe some of it was like
You just being like
I have to say
I was like have you seen it
Because you've always
Back in the day we go around
And it's like
You're the fucking face of
Mad TV and people recognizing you
And people know you from your stand up and everything
And you'd always be like wait buddy
It's going to be you
You talk to me like Robert Evans
I believe that
And you believe that
And that means a great deal to me
And so
Thank you but I feel like you are
In a Hollywood
Of filled with people
Who have
Fucking slammed doors in my face
And all of our faces just keeps happening
You're one of the people that I feel like
I've taken great
Drive from and inspiration
Because we live in a world of bewilderment
We do
There is something about
I'm not saying that
But there's something about
I don't know what his marijuana usage is
Now
It's rock bottom
None
It's rock bottom
I'm not
Saying
I don't smoke weed
I'm not going to put that on it
It'll feel weird
The thing is
After years of smoking weed and being creative
The way I completed this
Script
Was by not smoking weed
Yeah
It's like the inspiration part
We'd helped
The execution part
The final and the productivity that needs to
For the finish
Because when I heard sunken place in the movie
It is something that he would say
Or we would say
You're in
And we're really in the sunken place
It's weird
When you heard that in the movie
That's my guy
That's my guy
The sunken place
He smoked pot more than
Ever seen at the time
Not now
Zero now
Maybe one
Not a weed guy now
But every once in a while
You know
I'm going to leave that door
Wide open
It's there if I need it
I might need it for a little inspiration
Exactly
And you know what dude
I was sober all that time I met you dude
I never sweated you about a dog
No
We would see him walking down
Highland
He just got a car
Oh wow
So we hit 100 million
Yeah
Car with a bow came to my house
Wow
So you had been taking public transportation
No I was
That would be pathetic
That would be cool
It's nothing
My wife drove me everywhere
We're Chelsea
You know what I mean
Seriously
Talk about doing a service
Watch him walk down the street
And we would just pull over and pick him up
I had good friends
People would always be like
This frustrated you
It was like
Just get a car
Because he's making money
My whole thing was like
Why would I get a car
I know you're going to come pick me up
We're going to have a great time
I don't understand what the
The day you stop coming to pick me up
The car
You did
I haven't seen you in a while
To see him pull up
You should have seen the way he parked by the way
He almost destroyed the car
You know
It was not the best parking
It was not my best work
You were looking at me
First time you'd see me drive
It was a lot of pressure
But watching him pull up in that car
How old were you when you got your license
26
Amazing
I thought I was old and I got my license at 24
Yeah
Literally a year and a half ago
Did Chelsea make you?
She didn't make me
But she asked me to
For a while
She asked me in the beginning
I was like yeah, I'm going to do it
Of course two years went by
I didn't do it
Eventually I did it
I'm not smoking weed anymore
Wow
Whatever you choose to do
That's you
Let me say this though
I remember those times in your apartment
Sitting there
Pitching me ideas
Talking about things
Did we ever talk about get out?
We never really did
Maybe it's vague
Was Matt TV both of you guys
Sunk in places?
That's what it was
Marginalized
You know, it did two things for me
I don't know
If I would have gotten a job
After that
If I didn't get that
Right, so I think that
Because I remember not having an agent
And then getting it
At least I got an agent
And it put me on the map in terms of that
So I can't
You're so much better than a show
Of course you would have gotten
I know, but those are just assumptions
That's the sunken place talking to you
That's the sunken place
Keeping you in there
You don't know that fucking place
Nothing
The sunken place kept me there
I had a life crisis after I watched the movie
Because I had to think about
The sunken place and I had these reoccurring dreams
And I had to write it on a journal
And get it out of me
Because I totally know
What a sunken place this
And I'm like, that's what I've been dreaming of
My whole life and it takes me back to a place
Where I feel desperate
And scared
I get this, a lot of people with
Anxiety attacks or depression
Or something
I've gotten a lot of people reaching out
And being like, this is what it feels like
How did you know? And it was one of these things
We're writing it
You can just imagine writing it
That moment you sort of figure out
The sunken place
Oh, shit
These motherfuckers are gonna lose their minds
Seriously, you know
Something universal
I always thought of it
You know when you're about to
You're about to go to sleep
And you feel yourself falling
But then you wake yourself up
So I always thought, what if you didn't wake up
Where would you fall to?
And so that was the first nugget
Of that thing
It could even be
On par with sleep paralysis
Where the monsters
Come and you can't move
And you see the man with a hat
And all of those things
There's something about dreams
That, yeah
Your brain is interpreting
Why your
Neurals are shut down
And why you're not moved
So your brain's putting together this mythology
Of dreams
It's like Nightmare on Elm Street
She's walking up the stairs
And she can't get up the stairs
I can't get away from this
That's why I hate having dreams
Of fighting people
Because I can never swing right
I'm always missing
Do you dream, Bob?
What the fuck?
What was born dreaming, bro?
He doesn't remember his dreams at all
I barely do either
I know I dream
I just forget about it
That was a sign of depression
For some people
I think I dream too
But forget about it
The moment you wake up and have a thought outside
Of sleeping is the moment you forget about your dreams
But then why
Sometimes
Especially back in the day
I would dream and it would just be vivid
And I would wake up and I would know
And I loved these dreams
Do you think it has something to do with
That you live
I live in
How do I say this?
An excitable world
I perform live
We do things
When I had no job
And I was in my early 20s
I had no future
I was vividly remembering my dreams
Because maybe that's what I clung onto
But because of my
I don't know, my lifestyle
Is there something to do with that?
You stop dreaming because all your dreams come true
I still dream
But I just don't remember
Or they're not as impactful
Or maybe you're getting older
Because the quality of your sleep as you get older
Deteriorates anyways
Maybe you're doing so much
Expression
Dreams kind of bottled up
It's supposed to resolve
Your subconscious and a mix of other things
Sleep is supposed to be restorative
And you're supposed to resolve conflicts
In the back of your mind
The only dreams I do remember are relapse dreams
Oh gosh, that's so bad
If I relapse and I'll panic
I'll go, I relapsed
And those are the only ones I remember
Because I just don't want to go back
That's the sunken place
That is the sunken place, is it not?
It's not
Did you know him when he was using it?
Yeah
The year afterward
And you know
It was when I came into his life
And it was
I mean, you were a madman
There was a sketch one time
Where you were a homeless black man
Right? And I was ahead
Do you remember that?
I wasn't a homeless guy
I don't know why you thought I was a homeless guy
We did a sketch
I was your brother
We were brothers
How did you get brother confused with homeless black men?
I had a steering wheel on my chest
All right
The whole thing was we were some sad family
All right, all right
A parody of some documentary show
Yeah
They're helping out
It's a home replacement thing
We're going to surprise this
Poor family with a new one
So we were
We were colorblind family
Right
But why did you think I was a homeless guy?
I remember
I thought you were a homeless black man
And I was this severed
Asian head
This is a much better sketch
You're pitching a much better sketch
And you're trying to sell my head
I don't know
That was a dream
You're pitching a much better sketch
We'll talk about it
May we?
But the social commentary
I feel like
In an exaggerated way
The African American experience
Does that
Yeah, absolutely
That's what it feels like
But I'm sure it's the same for
We're almost all minorities in here
Almost
Fucking
He feels now
We're George
We've all felt that
The Japanese man
So
Very good guy
Not a lot of Japanese actors
In Alabama
Casting out of Alabama
Casting out of Alabama
So
I had to go to
You know
Yama
Ken Marina
Father-in-law
He's a karate master
And he's
Great in the movie
There's many reasons I did it
One, it's a shout out to
Rosemary's Baby
Where at the end
There's a Japanese guy there
And it helps just paint this picture
That this society is fucking far reaching
This is an international
In Rosemary's Baby
These aren't just some run-of-the-mill devil worshipers
This is the devil worshipers
So that's scary to me
This idea
And two, the idea that
Because of the broken English
He's got to ask the question more directly
And it's like
And it heightens
The awkwardness of the situation
But then
Lastly, it's like
What doesn't make sense
Old Japanese dude
Billionaire comes
It made perfect sense to me
Now I know
In my head, there should have been more Asians
It would make more sense for them to auction
It would make sense
I had more originally, but I wanted to
Whitewash it a little bit
We got to sell this thing
We got to sell this thing
We got to make money
At that point in the movie
You didn't know exactly what was going on
It's like they're doing surgical
All that
We're giving away
Spoiler alert
Spoiler alert
If you haven't seen it at this point
You're a fucking asshole
Come on
I hate you
That's my friend
Watch this fucking movie
But subscribe
But JJ
Can I call you JJ?
Can I do an Asian accent?
Yeah
And a southern one?
It's so weird
When your Asian accent
Isn't up to par
It's not
It's not what it used to be
It's not what it used to be
That's probably good for the world
But you broke
The movie broke records
First time director
And wrote
Writer
Making over $100 million
$150 million
JJ look at me
You do
150 and counting
150 and counting
154
I don't know
I mean when you
When those kind of
Number
You feel different
It does feel a little bit like
This is a weird
Alternate universe
From
You know the alternate universe
Where
Hillary was supposed to win
And we entered
We hit this fork and all of a sudden
The impossible happened in Trump
Well I think in the real universe
Where Hillary won
Jordan peels homeless right now
Jordan peels movie tanks
You know what I mean
Like something happened
I don't know which one I want to live in
I know you do
Because the Trump one
Can you just say this
Is going to pass
Unless
Unless he starts to fight
Which I feel like
He needs a war
She doesn't like talking about politics
We talked about it so much
We had a podcast
When the tally was being
Fucking meltdown
Fucking meltdown
Come on
I couldn't accept it
But look does it bother you
That
When the
His rabid followers that are like
So happy to see us pissed
That's the worst part
When they call us libtards
Really
I mean we're the more
College educated you fucking idiots
You know that's
That's
I mean that argument
Is not going to win anyone over
Yeah I mean
It's like
I mean there's plenty of
College educated people
Who
Voted for the
Fucking demon
And the thing is
Is that
I don't know how to live in this world
And so I'm just kind of like
You know I go on twitter
And read things
And I read articles
But I'm almost
I'm so scared
I think I'm in fear
I think I am
I think I'm in PTSD
Fear right now
Yeah I mean it's
Well
The strangest thing is that
We're
Time continued to move on
And it feels like
Emotionally we're in this weird
Suspended animation and it just
Feels like we're in the wrong reality
Wow
So good place
So good place
My fear is that my own skin keeps getting
Thicker and thicker as the days go by
Because it's so incredulous and so unbelievable
That we're living this reality
That I almost feel like
Things that would usually affect me
Have kind of become apathetic to
I feel like I'm morphing into
Like an insensitive person
Because of all this
But it's also kind of fun in a weird way
Well here's the fun part right
First of all the feeling like
Like this life is happening right now
Like it ain't all peaches and cream
It's like but also
It feels like we're watching this
Glorious slow moving train wreck
It's drama
And it's drama and it feels
It's so Shakespearean
And you know who knows
It's gonna get impeached
Maybe not
It's not going to end well
Yeah
For him
You know it's like
Even if it's like history
Looking back it's not going to be
That he was the best
Yeah it's not going to be
I mean it's
I don't want to talk about politics
I know you don't want to do it either
But we're here
Speaking of sadness have you guys heard
Of the queen of segues
No it's not segues
She's amazing
Speaking of politics
That better just be today
That's definitely today
When I first met her
We've talked about it before
I met her on Tinder
Give me more credit than that
You met on Tinder
What's the credit though
I only had the app for a week
He had like blown his load on Tinder
At that point
And he was my first and last date on there
So yeah that is kind of
A fair representation
I wasn't burning rubber on Tinder
The second time we made out
He's got to retell this story
I have to tell Jordan because he's my fucking brother
The second time we made out
She punched me
In the face and she says tell me you want to kill me
Tell me what?
Tell me that you want to kill me
I had these things in my head
I knotted right on my pants
I mean it was like an explosion
Guys this is good
It was really good
He stuck her finger
In my butthole all the time
Watertight
Like a frog
Completely watertight
Except nothing
Anyways what I was saying
Speaking of politics
And refugees and things like that
Have you guys heard of the term resignation syndrome?
No
So it's this thing that's happening I guess in Sweden
Where the refugees from the old
Soviet and Yugoslavia
Are coming in and once
They get rejected off of
Being citizens let's say
They've sought asylum in Sweden
And then they file for
The legal right to live there
And then they're
That's denied
These kids go into a full blown coma state
And they stay obtunded
And completely
Unresponsive
The state or the country of Sweden
Has to grant them technically asylum
Because they're just completely incapable of moving
They're just faking it
Okay so there's a discussion
There's two things
Asylum right there
We need some more vegetables
So some people think it's a psychological contagion
But others really really
Think that they've gone into
What's called resignation
It's the giving up and just completely
Losing all
Your soul has evaporated
Yeah I've had that
Me too
Before Jordan got
I'm mad and I got that intervention
From Fox and Dick Blasucci
The drug and intervention
It was like really hot
I was wearing a sweater it was a Thursday night
And all this like boils on my face
And it was
It was a Rita
A big Greek lady
And her baklava
Right
I was sitting there like this
And they were saying you give drugs out
You give the drugs out to the strokes
You know what I mean you don't show up to shoots
You know you don't do the table reads
And I did the resignation
Right there
Yeah but did you do it for three years
These kids have been
Resigned for three years
Yes for three years
These are extended periods of time
Like I'm not going to eat for
Four days
Yeah so these people
Have been fed through a g-tube
When the doctor assesses them
They have to
Open their eyes for them
They're just completely unresponsive
And then when the doctor leaves they're like
They open their eyes and like giggle at each other
Yeah but it's only a phenomenon
With children and young or like adolescents
That's nice
Oh it's kids
Some teenagers but they become teenagers
So if it started
If they're kids they're like
Oh I didn't get asylum
The whole family didn't
Get asylum
They come as mom, dad, children
Or whatever but it's the kids that get affected
By the denial of asylum
Does the whole family get to stay
I don't think so
I'm not sure if it's a minor
The family gets to stay
Such a sad world
That photo of that Syrian kid
With the soot on his face
You just went there?
Chunks of like
Daddy's brain matter on the face
Or whatever
No one knows what that was
Yeah but the tears
Melting into the brain matter
And she's just sitting there like this
God I just want to
I know I want to take that kid
To like
Salt and straw
And ice cream
Yeah something good
Get the floutas
I would straight up
If I could
Adopt that kid right now
Me too
Yeah
Me too
At least he's not Russian
The only ones
No listen
Russian orphans Bobby
The Russian ones they stab
They fight back
They have knives
The Russian kids come over
They are
Have orders
They've got
They're
They're talking to the
They're talking to the red giant
Back home
The Kremlin
I got cyanide and they have a little baby teeth
So what's that
I know you want
I just like the term baby teeth
I know you don't want to talk about what's next for you
We're not going to talk about what's next
But can you give us
A glimpse into maybe what you want to do next
Or is that out of the question
Well you know
The truth is I don't really know
I don't really know
I've got a lot of projects
That I've been working on
That I'm very excited about
The question right now
Is what comes first
And so I have to put a little more thought
To say this is strategically
Inspirationally this one is just
Ready
I was writing all these
Ideas
After Mad TV
I went through a depression
Right
That's the moment
That's the moment
Where I don't know exactly
What you went through
Because I remember you had a chance
At the last year of Mad TV
To get on the SNL
They offered it to you
Because they wanted you to play Barak
2008
And David
The writer strike was happening
The guy that owned Mad TV
David Salsman
Yeah it's on Google
Yeah it's on Google
He said no
He's contractually with us
Or even less than that
He could have let you go
Like fuck the year SNL go do it
If he didn't do it
Four more episodes left on your contract
On the contract they're gonna laugh
Network's gonna laugh me out of the room
If I even try to bring that up
So here's the thing
Now I look back at it
And I don't blame the guy
I mean look I got a show
You put it on
It's opposite SNL
And this fucking guy wants to leave the show
And now fuck him
Four episodes left
It wasn't
I think he felt insulted
And he felt like I didn't
I can appreciate how he felt
I had a contract
He gave me an amazing opportunity
To be on television
But I didn't feel that way
At the time
I was like this is
This is not right
This guy's keeping me from my home
My grandmother, my friend's in New York
So it was
So I went through a dark period
Where
You know I was
I didn't know what to do
But what my brain
Ended up doing
Was
Thinking of it like a
A fucking villain from a superhero movie
So like an art
Just what do you do
You outsmart him
All these fuckers that fucked me
Are gonna wish they hadn't
In the end
Let me see something right now
We all have that
I call it the hate box
And I have a chest in my heart
And I can tell you the name
But I'm not going to
But I have a lot of names in there
Against Vaughn
Vaughn to the fuck
He's not number one
There's a couple of other producers
Anybody in your box is in my box
That's the way it works
So what you do is you put the name
Or the situation in that box
And you close it
But what happens is
Those names in your heart
They grow
In the chest
And you haven't opened it
And when you open it
It's now a full blown creature
So you had a fucking box
I had a box
I was in this zone of
Turning it into glee
And I was like
I was into it
And I started writing
My goal was to become
A great writer
If I can't be in
Sketch anymore
I can't be in this show
I can't stand to be in it anymore
I can't be in the other one
So I was like
The dream is
Becoming an author
A director
There's all kinds of
I got monkey paw productions
That's you
And so
It's horror
It's sci-fi
It's dark
It's comedy
And I landed on
This mission
That is so satisfying to me
Of like
All of us underrepresented people
And what if
The shit that we
Have always been told we can't be in
What if we start doing shit
That's better than
The others
So that's what I'm gonna do
I will probably never
Have a
White protagonist in a movie
I love white people
My wife's white
I don't
There's enough of those
What the fuck
So in many ways
That was a good thing
Absolutely
Best thing that's happened in my life
Besides meeting Chelsea
If you're listening right now
And you're going through some fucking
You were raped or whatever it might be
Not cut
You got run over by a car
I was on mad tv
That was my thing
Whatever it might be
Give me another shot at it
I was getting paid money
To be honest
Making me look like
I'm complaining
Whatever you're going through your life
You lost your job
At Best Buy
And you can't make ends meet
Right
And then like
Your frog and it dies
Pet frog
Beloved
And then you get raped
Watch this
Whatever you're going through
Let me say something
You can spin it into a fucking positive
And that's the lesson that we learned today
That's the lesson we learned today
That's amazing
And then
When Keegan left
So Keegan was on mad
Two more years I think
There was only one more year
Keegan was on one more year
And then you guys did key and peel
I'm going to tell you something right now
When I saw you guys
On the cover
Of entertainment weekly
I literally teared up
I couldn't believe it
I think we bought that
Tears rolled up in my eyes
Because
Imagine it's like
You know
You're in an internment camp
With somebody
And they get out
Like you and our Japanese dudes
And we're in the internment camp
People are just getting shot
And I'm still in there
I'm still in the internment camp
You got out
I'm in the fence
You don't even know what the fuck
I've been doing
You don't even know what I've been doing
I play the chuckle fuck factory
In Idaho
You're in love
With a soulmate
You got a soulmate
That's huge
That's already out of the internment camp
You got a fucking dope production
You got your games
You got your toys
That's true
That's still the camp
But maybe I moved on to the
House part of the camp
In all seriousness
I want to sit down
I want to fucking
You're a fucking star
I want to develop some shit
I want to figure out what it is
Because dude, dear
Here's what I'm going to do
Because Kalaila don't have an idea
We've had ideas
I did a pilot for ABC
So if that gets picked up
You know what I mean
It's probably not going to get picked up
But I need it
We're going to buy a house
I want it to get picked up
But if it doesn't get picked up
I'm going to pitch something this year
Can you get out of that pilot
ABC network
Come on
You know how it happened
It fell on his lap
I didn't even audition
They just gave it to me
I just said yeah
I want to say this too
I might get emotional
Don't look at me
Don't look at me
I want to say this
Just give me a second
Just get in it
Open that up
Live there, feel that
I want to say this
So a year ago
Things are going well
A lot of guys with me
That's cool
I get a call
From my agent saying
You got a commercial
Right
I never went out
For no motherfucking commercial
I don't do that
No you got it
I'm not going to tell you what it is
But it was a lot of money
It was more money
Than I've ever done in a year
Of work
Did you know that?
Anyway
So I don't know what it was
So I showed up to the shoot
Three commercials
And I see Key and Peel there
And then I realized
That it was for your
It was a commercial revolver
On you and Chelsea's wedding
Then I realized
That you did it
That you got me the commercial
That's not a real cry
That's not a real cry
When's the last time I cried?
He cries a lot
I do cry
Listen
I really want to cry
I can't cry right now
I'm going to try
There's an old Korean tradition
I don't know if you know this
That when you do a fave
That big for somebody
The Korean now has to kill somebody for you
It's like Arya
And the guy is Game of Thrones
So it's like
Just give me the list
They'll be gone
I'm telling you right now dude
That gesture
People don't help each other
In this business
They don't
I feel like
I've gone out of my way
To help people
Just comics or whatever
A lot of kids on the road
I give them more money than they normally get
I fly them out
But let me tell you
That gesture was
Almost awe inspiring
For me because it's like
At the time I was really emotional
He was just not in a good place at all
I was in a weird place dude
It came
At a perfect moment
It reminded him of two things
That he could still work
And that he had a friend
And he came home and he talked about
I think we talked about it on here
We did talk about it
Hey and look
I'll suck your dick
I don't need all that
Just kill the person
Murder
I mean look
When I was
A kid
And you
You had been on for a couple of years
Money from the road
The most generous person
That I've met
And you would pick up the bill
And it wasn't like you pick up the bill
And be like you get it next time
It was like every single time you pick up the bill
You weren't fucking
Jack loaded rich
That's being Korean too
And it really is cultural
Because in the culture
When you are doing better than somebody else
Not that I was doing better than you
Around a little longer
I think it was going to be a little bit more
And you were also younger
I helped Nicole Parker
Get an apartment
Same generosity
So that shit comes back
Wow you hear that kids
This is a dream weaving
Episode
We had time
It's unbelievable
Perfect
50 minutes
We're not there yet
I just want to say
If you haven't seen the movie
You fucking missed out
You can still watch it
You can still watch it
Promote this
I'll tell you why not
It really is just
It's
George what's up
He's a lot to laugh if Gilbert laughs
Otherwise
Not permitted
I know he's a white dude
He won't be a lead for me
He's good
He's fucking good in Suicide Squad
He stole that whole movie
He's great in it
I could do it
He's always been good
He's always been good
Every time I see him
He's better still
He's a beast
Sorry something just popped in my head
You know how last week
I was talking about comics
Comic books that had
Petrified shrimp
That would come to life
Sea monkeys
Wait I don't know what they are
Can you explain to me
She doesn't know what the fuck sea monkeys were
I missed the segue on this one
There was no segue
It just popped in my head
She goes hiking
With her fucking friends
Like a normal fucking person
I don't do that
I don't move in that way
They saw puddles
They saw these little fucking
We rescued tadpoles
We killed 20 of them
No I didn't
Back in the day
If you looked at a comic book
At the end they would advertise these thing called sea monkeys
And they came dried packets
And it would always be the cartoons
Of the like you know
Mac and me
I love that movie
That McDonald dance movie
They are actual animals
A microscopic little animal
That look like little sperm
They are not even
A new species
Did you know that
They are synthetically made
They are synthetically made
It's a guy that he makes two different
Like shrimp, brine
And
I googled it bro after she said it
Because he's been obsessed with it for the past week
And I still don't know what they are
I'm going to show you a photo of them
They should fuck
They should market it that way
Like Franken sperm
Right
That's an experiment
Gone wrong
But this is what they
This is what they look
Have you seen a little tank
They have magnifying glasses on the tank
So you can see them
I miss this boat completely
I would have loved this as a kid
I collect tadpoles from mud puddles Bobby
Yeah
But this is what they look like
Yeah that's some alien shit
Yeah and a guy
I don't know how he did it
But he was a bio
A bio engineer
A biological scientist
Biologist
I like the other one
He was a biological scientist
And
He created a new kind of
And then you can buy it anyway
I just remember being a kid
And being very disappointed that the cartoon
Was these
Like these monkeys with
Merman monkeys
And then the reality was like this little fucking
Yeah but they look like that
This is what they look like though
Can you find the
The image of the cartoon
Right here we go
Do they still sell them
Can they buy them?
I haven't seen them
It seems sort of like
A moral
Like somehow it's like
They're abominations
Because I mean they come dried right
They come to life only
They're like
What's up we got hands
And we hang out as a family
Yeah they have fucking
Brickinis
Oh that's funny
There's a baby when they're smiling
It's such an interpretation
And it's all about selling to kids
It's like look this is what you're gonna get
And then you get home and it's these little
Squiggly protozoas
Yeah this is pretty much what they look
They had no bow ties or nothing
Looks like it's a weird sex thing
What we do now Jordan
We do a question from the internet
An email they have it's called
Unhelpful Advice and so let's go
Unhelpful advice with Bobby
Kalala and the
154 million man
Joined here
You guys can call me Luna
I'm African American first generation
American if that helps
So I studied in medicine and now I'm trying to get a job
I was sort of forced slash brainwashed
By my parents to study super hard
Aim high in medicine and now I'm waiting
For the job part to happen
Which can be painfully taking a long time
Now that I finished school the school part
I started out as a theater geek musician
But my parents said nope to that
Now as I get close to being 30
What can I do to stay motivated
Or to even live
Do what I need to do to deal with my current
Huge debt and still live for
And live life for me
Oh so if it were thinking med school
And she's in debt so she's probably in debt
A good 300k if not more
I mean it was such an
All-encompassing question
There was a biography that went along with that
I was like let me start at the beginning
And at the end
She told her life story at the end
It was like what should I do
But also she wants to end her life maybe
Is that what she said?
Just to live
So she's finished med school
She's probably waiting for a residency somewhere
So there's no subtext
Of I'm suicidal because
I'm gonna write one more sentence
One more time
Read the last three sentences
Now as I get close to being 30
Ellipses sigh
What can I do to stay motivated
In parentheses to live even
In parentheses
That right there is
Suicide
To live even
Oh okay
We should probably change our tone
No
No I will not
Because she's sending a suicidal thought
To your show
You know what I do man
Even when I was a kid
I would get parking tickets
I would just let the wind
It's just money
I've never put anything
I know there's a lot of stress when it comes to money
But I've never really
It's a fake thing to me
That's a good point probably
This sounds like a typical situation
Where the expectation
For what this person thinks
A good life is supposed to be
Is this like traditional
Sense of like I'm supposed to get the right job
I'm supposed to have it out by 30
I'm supposed to have three kids and I'm supposed to be married
But the real thing is
And this is where
When I was in that eight years ago
This idea of like
Okay I'm at my bottom
What
If I could do anything
If I could look at this as an opportunity
If I could do anything with my life
What would that be
This is going to sound like
It's going to sound like I'm
I'm going to say it like some people like
But don't do that
I wasn't even
I know but
You looked directly at his eyeballs
We were like
No
I didn't mean it
That's a derogatory
I didn't mean it
Just don't do that
We were talking about video games earlier
Yeah but just don't even erase it
That makes me happy
I love playing video games
Until a few years ago when I
Started making movies
Don't do that
Don't do that either
But I'm saying
Find what
Follow the fun in life
And also
All that schooling you just did
Is not all for naught
That will
It's just your life one way or another
You didn't do it for nothing
So even if you enter into the arts
You're going to have that in your arsenal
It puts you
It's an advantageous place to be
To have all that knowledge in your bank
But it's also
Can I just say this last thing
Is that
In many ways
Like Jordan and I
We're dreamers
We dream of things
In our lives
And we look forward to these things
I really do
This year
I said this last week
Is the best year of my career
It has been
I'm working more than I've ever had
And it feels good
I've always had that
It's going to happen
It's right around the corner
This positive thing
But there was a time when everything was negative
Right
Maybe try switching
In AA there's a saying
We're a new pair of glasses
You know
Like
Perceive your life in a different way
Because if you focus on
Like the money
And how much you're in debt
And all this negative shit
It just piles on
But if you wake up a dreamer
You understand what I'm saying
Wake up a dreamer
So now do you think
We're wrapping up
Do you think
Somebody who's calling in
Basically
I've worked my whole life
I hate my job
I hate my job, I'm 30
I'm suicidal
And then here is like
Jordan Peele Bobby Lee be like
Dream
But we get this every week
We get worse ones than that
It's also called unhelpful advice for a reason
Oh it's unhelpful
So what we gave them was like
An unhelpful thing
The whole time
The whole time
Alright
That's a tricky place to be
Also she's
I hate to say it, it's different
She's a woman
And it's different when you're nearing 30
For a woman
When I graduated nursing school
I just felt like I was
Putting myself deeper into a prison
Like I was buying into a trap
And here I am like having my stepdad
Text me don't be a broke millennial
Don't be a broke millennial
And that just keeps
That's a repetition in my head
And I'm thinking I'm living my mom's dream
Of finally becoming a Filipino nurse
But all that while
I just felt more and more like I was in a prison
Well you see the running theme
You're supposed to be something
We internalize it
We do it
Your mom
Was white and she was single mom
She still is
She still is
And yes
But she was a single mom
And she did a great job with you
It's unbelievable
Because you don't have no brothers and sisters
You were just a kid
Did she instill those things?
You know
I didn't know them for very long
Now I know
Now that you have money and you're a huge director
No it's not
The peels have been very cool
The peels love you
But your mom though
Did she instill those
Because we had Chris Delia here a month ago
And I remember Delia saying that when he was 6
And 7 years old
You know his dad's a producer
But he would bring Chris into the room
To see his plays that he would make up
He would do a stand up set
And they would encourage it
And it made him believe
That he could
He's a funny guy and he couldn't do it
Was that much like
Your mom was always like just do what you want to do
Or did you go against the grain
She was very much do what you want to do
But you know what my mom did
She was extremely creative
So I would
Go to Halloween
And she always had the dope costume
And she would be kind of
I would say what I wanted to be
And she would help me make
I was a poker table
These really creative
I was like Castle Grey Skull
When I was a kid
Cardboard box with a glow stick
Oh she would make that
She would make it
You're always furniture
Or buildings
They were all ghetto too
A California raisin
A garbage bag wrapped around
But it counted
It was better than the store bought
Shitty costumes
And I would go to Valentine's Day
And she would help me make Valentine's
For everybody in class
So there was this early
Idea of being creative
And being thorough
With the creative
I think that sunk in
My mom is very very different
She was mostly hungry
And so she didn't have
For her it's very linear
There's no time for fun
When you're hungry
So she never wants to get back to a place
Where she's hungry
And that's basically what it comes down to
So it's like stay safe
Tell her what she used to do
She basically brought my sister and I
To be race horses
Because we were swimmers
We were competitors
Yeah I used to get my ass beat
Should we get a punch in the face
But it's a very linear thought
Where it's no fun at all
Because if you start having fun
Then the food stops coming to the table
But now Chelsea's pregnant
Can I say that?
You don't know that?
I saw it
We have a child on the way
And Chelsea Peretti if you don't know
Is one of the best stand ups
Over half
Such funny people
I feel like you guys are gonna do the same for your kid
Yeah we're gonna have a fun
We have a very silly household as it is
Are you scared?
Yeah
But
I'm terrified
But in a very good way
I was terrified for this movie as well
I know it's a very different thing
But it's one of these things where it's like
I kept going like well
If I'm not ready then who is
How does a movie ever get made?
You're teaching me so much today man
Fuck bro
Well it's the same with kids
Kids have kids
Teenagers have kids
They don't have shit going
They're trying to like
Fake it to you and make it
That's what they used to say in AA
That's really an AA
That doesn't sound like a very positive message to
How about make it?
Just make it
Fuck you guys
Cause I'm gonna tell you what it means
It's basically like if you show up
A lot of in AA when you're an alcoholic
And you're newly sober
You don't know how to do certain things
Even basic life skills
So they say fake it to you and make it
Do it anyway
And then one day you'll be able to do it
It's an encouraging thing
It's not like be a false person
Some people don't come in talking about
So I'm sober
No that's that way
They're not faking it
They're not faking sobriety
Well I want to think
It's so weird how it all works out
I don't like asking people to do the podcast
I noticed that
Because
I called you last night
Have you seen the movie yet?
And you responded I love it
Can you do this thing tomorrow?
And I was like what?
I'm gonna just say
When I saw the movie last week
After I got out
I was kind of in a daze of
Mesmerized by it
And then I was like
I don't know what to say
Because I want to give you a blow job on the fucking thing
She gave me a blow job when I wasn't doing shit
I know
So I wanted to wait
And then when you called
I go I need to ask
Because I don't like to be intrusive
That's my thing
And that's been my downfall
I don't like to bother people
Because you don't bother people
People love you Bobby
You're a made man
It seems like you're uncomfortable with the love
I hate it
How he rejects this
I hate it
Bill Burr
He hated the movie The Dictator
But he loved my part in it
And he always says
You're great because he knows
He's been doing it since the movie's made
Because he knows that I fucking hate when he does it
I just don't like compliments
At all
And I think that's something that I need therapy about
Or something
But if my show does not keep it up
I'm gonna come
To your office
And I'm gonna professionally pitch something to you
Monkey paw
Give him a round of applause guys
That was amazing
Thank you
We gotta take a photo for the social media
And figure out how to get you out of the parking spot
Because you're really close to the fucking pillar
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Make sure you go see Get Out
Because it's gonna be in theaters for over long
There's no deadline
Still watch it
That 200 million mark
That's what I'm doing
Thank you
I'm gonna come
To your office
And I'm gonna professionally pitch something to you
I just don't like compliments
At all
And I think that's something that I need therapy about
Thank you
I'm gonna take a photo
And figure out how to get you out of the parking spot
Because you're really close to the fucking pillar
And I'm gonna take a photo
And figure out how to get you out of the parking spot
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