TigerBelly - Rainn Wilson & The Headshot in a Cowboy Hat

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

Actor Rainn Wilson (The Office) stops by the first time and has issues with the camera coverage. We chat blue eyes, screaming nrok, Avatar: The Last Airbender, dueling Facetime, predator signals, Nicaragua life, meditation retreat, and F.E.A.R. TigerBelly Live Tickets HERE. https://www.soulboom.com/ New players, start playing with just FIVE BUCKS and get ONE HUNDRED BACK INSTANTLY in Casino Credits. Download the app and use code TIGERBELLY to book your one-way ticket to fun with DraftKings Casino!

Aloha, mahalo. We are going to play Honolulu, Hawaii, a Hawaii theater. Gilbert's the most excited about this. Friday, April 26, 2024. Door is 7 PM. Show starts at 8. You guys, we've been wanting to play Hawaii for so long, and now it's happening.

April 26 Kalala where can we get our ticket you guys can go get tickets at tiger belly live comm This is gonna be a great show. We don't do this often. So get go get your tickets now and we'll see you there Is Blue eyes. Is rain here? Nope. It's close but he's not here yet. Okay. Please continue.

Anyway, um, please continue, continue to please, please continue to please. Hey. Please continue, continue to please, please continue to please. I really like that. Please continue, continue to please. Can we make that a t-shirt, George? I feel like as a people ple to please. Can we make that a t-shirt, George? I feel like as a people pleaser, this is really great.

Please continue to please. Please continue to please. Let's go. No, that's not a rap song. Oh, I want it to be. It feels good. I definitely want it to be, my friend. Welcome to another episode, Tiger Brother.

We have a guest coming, but he's not here yet. I get nervous about certain people, and I've met Rain before. I did his. What a kind man. But I don't want to be too bullyish, you know? We gotta be nice. Is that how you were when you did his pod? That was very nice. I know, but like, what do you mean bullyish? I have a tendency to be a bullyish and I don't want to be a bully anymore. I want to be on the side of the bullied because I was bullied you want to be a victim

Yes, I guess you're right I do want to be a victim Yeah, yeah, go ahead say of like the two sides of being like a perpetrator and a victim or no I'm saying I'm sorry like a person who plays victim all the time I think grates on my nerves more than someone who bullies really I generally dislike those people more than the you like a bully type who victimized people I'm not a bully at all. I'm nice to you right fatty? Am I not? Yeah, like when we dinner we dinners and stuff you can't be in the same like side as me. He eats a lot. No, but I can't move like you can't you don't get any of the remember that? I was being edged out of the fucking bench or whatever. This guy ate kimchi Jigae with a white shirt on Kaila. Oh, no, did he do that?

He took everything when you eat Korean food, you don't put everything and put it in one bowl mix it That's what he did. He put all the punch on. Yeah, mixed it with the Jigae. He ate the cold crab. No one eats that Really with his hands and started sucking at that. No, it's that But but anyway, good to see you fatty. I'm kidding, you're not even fat, you're fucking muscular and you're such a great guy. And I love you so much. That's what I wanna say.

There we go. I love you so much, you're not fat, you're muscular. And I say things because I'm afraid to look at myself. Because I'm fat. Maybe. You're not fat. I really am. I'm fat. Have you put on lately?

Yeah, a lot. How much discussed? I'm at one eighty. What are you normally one sixty? Yeah. I've been eating like donuts, pure donuts. Is that yours? The sidecar donuts? I get them every day. I get a dozen sidecars and nibble on them. Are you not afraid of like diabetes or anything? I'm going to get it. My I can't feel my left foot. I get them every day. I get a dozen side cars and just nibble them.

Are you not afraid of like diabetes or anything? I'm gonna get it. I can't feel my left foot. Yeah, I think you're probably already there. Yeah, yeah. There's also a pain in my toe. I don't know what it is. Are you thirsty and pee a lot? Dude, I thirst. I quench thirst. Blood and water, everything.

Mostly blood though. You got the D. Blue eyes, baby's got blue. Anyway, I just woke up so I'm a little delirious and this is how I pod when I'm like not fully there yet, cognitive. But. You're here. What? You're here. There we go. Anyway. That's all you need. Yeah but um you know I want to do Ayahuasca, but they won't let me. Hmm. Yep. Let's not even talk about that anymore. Let's talk about positivity.

Okay. Okay. Let me say something to you, George. Yes. George, I know you've been going through a hard time this last weekend. Yeah, yes. And I have to say, at the end of the day, I will not betray you. You know that, right? Thank you.

Yeah. Yeah. You're my guy for as long as I can see. And you, Gilbert, my God, hello and goodbye. Thank you. Good evening again. Let's go. Let's go, dude.

And let's go on this journey together as friends and companions and work buddies. My turn. You, right? You, my angelic little smog lady. I love smog lady. I don't know why I said smog. Not good AQI.

Angelica. Angelica Houston. I mean, honestly, no larger compliment. Yeah yeah you are my girl and you are my compadre and you are my hombre. I was gonna say hombre but I said homerun. Homerun's really sweet. And you are my lady. And listen guys at the end of the day we're pure. You know what song I listened to on the way here? It's going to annoy you because it's a Taylor Swift song. No!

You don't like it? No more! But it's her newer one. It's one of her newer ones. Can I just talk about it? No more Taylor Swift. No more. Give me 30 seconds.

I refuse to even listen to it. But I thought about us. Okay, go ahead. seconds I refused to even listen to it but it thought I thought about us okay go ahead the song is called you're losing me and it made me want to cry kill yourself I think he just can I can Can I just make an observation? Every time you see Taylor Swift I'm going to do that. I dare you. Okay, read the lyrics. You say I don't understand.

I'm nodding like death metal boys. I know you don't. We thought true would come through in time. Now I fear it won't. Remember looking at this world. We loved it cause of the light. Now I just hit and knock. I wonder if it died.

That's what it sounds like to me. Doesn't make any sense. It's gibberish. It's Satan worship. It's Wicca talk. Have you ever heard of the Wicca talk? I've heard of it. I've heard of it.

I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've heard of it. I've if it's time. That's what it sounds like to me. Doesn't make any sense, it's gibberish, it's Satan worship. It's Wicca talk. Have you seen Alex? Wicca talk. Have you heard Alex do Screamo? I don't want to do that right now, because he's going to do it better.

Why? I should have done mine better. Let him do it, let him do it. Let go ahead. Go ahead, get on the mic. Gary, just read the first line, do the first, do the chorus. Stop losing me. Check this out, Kalala. How does it go?

It doesn't matter, just do, ahem, stop losing me. I wanna try, I wanna try, I wanna try, back up, back up. Back up? Stop, stop, stop, you can't, There's a way I can teach you how to do it. It's really simple.

Fuck you. I think he already blew out some Capulet. I can't do it again. Yeah, we need to chill out. Yeah, yeah. I just almost had a stroke. Yeah. Yeah. It's very, you know what, honestly, not so bad on a scale of 0 to 10 on the Jonathan Davis

scale. That was pretty cool. You do one. I can. Try. My sister can do it so good. No, try, just try. I won't. I can't. Try. My sister can do it so good. No, just try. I won't, I won't. See, that's a, that's a,

I'm not gonna slow up my vocal cords. This is the thing, Kailila. It's when, it's these situations where you don't wanna do is what, that's where you're lacking. Here, we'll, we'll prep it. No, okay. Me and George will go first.

Be ready. Okay. No, just stop losing me. Ready? Stop losing me. That's pretty good, Gail. Yeah, go. Stop losing me. Go. Stop losing me. Stop losing me! That's pretty good, Gale. Yeah, go. Stop losing me! Go!

Stop losing me! Yes! Yours is the best one! That was the best one! Thank you so much, dude. Hers is the best. You're a man. You're a full grown man.

You're a man now. You have a penis. That's insane. I did listen to a lot of corn in high school. Yeah? Yeah. Definitely a lot of that. Thank you so much for pushing me to my limits.

You're welcome, Narok. You know what Narok is? What is that? Pouring backwards. And that's what we're gonna learn today. Narok is smart. Can I say something? When I did that, I felt my eyes cross,

but you were equally cross-eyed. You were looking right at me. You were both cross-eyed. I know, because I was like mimicking your face. And I was like, yeah. He mirrored my cross-eyed. I was so concerned. Oh my God, I was concerned for you looking at me.

Yeah. Yeah, so anyway, stop. I don't want to take this out. No more Taylor Swift. No more this, Taylor Swift stuff. Oh my god. Anyway, the Marvel universe is dying. Everything's dying.

What do you think is taking its place? Nothing, I'm glad it's dying. I'm glad all that is dying. I think it just ended with the last Avengers, Endgame. Wait, what was the last one that, it was that Dakota Johnson one? That wasn't even Marvel. That's not even Marvel. What is that?

Sony. So that one is going to be a failure. How do you know? It's so bad that the actresses in it, they tagged Marvel and Kevin Feige thinking they were in a Marvel film. Yeah. And they had to untag themselves.

Dakota Johnson, the day she saw the trailer, she fired her agents. No way. Yeah, she left her agents. It's not bad. That's how bad it is. And then I just bought Marvel's, the second one. Marvel's. With, you know. Oh, you bought that? What's her name? Brie Larson. Brie Larson. And then this got like a Cambodian Marvel and like an Indian Marvel or something. Once black. Oh wow, whatever. Black American.

Once I saw that I was like, ah, that's, that's it. Were we superheroes? Kind of just, I'm sorry. Give us the old, the good old days. When you see a comic, a superhero, you see, you know, mostly dudes, loved Wonder Woman as well, but they looked, I'm going gonna get canceled now. You're not. They look like heroes. Yeah like Kun-El Nanjiani after he got jacked. Ripped. You know can I say something I know him I love him okay and I saw his body maybe a

month ago in the back of the green room of the Comedy Store in the main room and I looked at him I go dude you still got it. You got that, you know. And he's like, thank you, man. But I'm like, he looks like it. Like, if they called me and said, we want you to be Beijing Surprise, and I go, what is that? Well, it's just like a, you know, it's a villain. So he just pops out?

No, I'm just saying that I just gave a superhero name that I just made up. I love it. No, do you love it? Give me something else. No, Beijing Surprise. I think that's a good villain. Yeah. And they're like, I go, well, I'm a superhero.

Well, you're an enemy, but you have superpowers. I go, give me three years, right? And I will look the part. Nine months for you. God bless you. Nine months for you. God bless you. Nine months for you. But it's like some of these are like you watch it and go I don't buy it. Can I add a question?

I will say Marvel is not done because of this. This is their last Hail Mary. Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds together. Oh that's going to be great. Hugh Jackman coming back is Wolverine. Yeah that's going to be great. And you know that's the old school Wolverine outfit. The yellow. But this is's gonna be great. And you know, that's the old school Wolverine outfit. The yellow. But this is gonna be edgy, right?

Yeah, rated R. They're gonna say, rated R, they're gonna have funny jokes. Is the new Last Airbender? That's out, I think. Out? Yeah, I think it's on Netflix now. Is that in, has anyone watched it?

No, but I screamed at my agent Saturday night. Why? I just wanted to, but I go, were you there? Oh no, you weren't there. So Saturday night, my agent, Matt, brings this new hot shot. Agent is my agent, you know what I mean? And she's a lovely lady and she came in and I really like her, I'm so glad that she's repping me.

But they were like, all sitting in a circle, telling me what's gonna happen. And I just went on off a last episode, but they were like, you know, all sitting in a circle, telling me what's gonna happen. And I just went off a last Airbender fucking rant. What do you mean? And I watched that fucking billboard, right? Did I get a read? You know what I mean?

Did I get any opportunity in that? You know what I mean? And they're like, and they're all kind of writing down their notes. What notes are they writing? It's already over, what are you writing down? They already cast it, what are you writing down?

You know what I mean? But it's like every time like a year will go by and I'll drive down the street and I'll see a billboard like, you know, with everyone I know. That's what happened with Crazy Rich Asians, remember? I know. It's like, I had found out that they were gonna turn the book into the movie, and I told Bobby, I was like,

oh, you should get in on this, and then so he calls his reps, and they were like, oh yeah, we don't like nothing about it, that's not gonna happen. They kind of just blew him off. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, and then when casting happened, they called me and they go, they don't even wanna see you.

Yeah, because it was too late, I think they were just shitting over their asses. No, no, no, they called me and they go, they don't even want to see you. Yeah, because it was too late. I think they were just shitting over their asses. No, no, no. They said this, they go, it's a Chinese thing. I swear to God they said it. You're not Chinese, it's a Chinese thing. So I go, oh cool, I get it, that's fine. Then the movie comes out, Ken Jung's in it.

Nico Santos, Filipino. Nico Santos is in it. What, you see in it? Yeah. Yeah, they're all in it. So they lied to me. Yeah. you see in it? Yeah. Yeah, they're all in it. So they lied to me. Yeah. I think what it is is they just,

and I'm going to say something, and it's not a, it's a good thing. It's not a bad thing. Maybe I'm too mythological for them. I don't know. Maybe. I might be too mythological for the show. Then you would have been great for a last airbender.

Here we go, dude! Call him up right now. Your agents. Here we go! Anyway, I don't want to be into those. It's fine. It's not a personal thing. It's business. But you are in quarterlands and that trailer trailer came out we haven't talked about that That's huge. Is that not huge? What'd you say? That's huge. Um

It is yeah, and I saw it don't don't don't pull it up. I've seen it many times But what I want to say about that is it was huge until I read the comments And what did it comments say? Oh, well, it's nerd voice. Well, I'm not watching this piece of shit. Roland's supposed to be six foot three and he's supposed to be this way and this way and this way. Shut up. And it's all these like all the care, what?

They want their superheroes to be jacked is what they were saying. Oh no, came back to bite ya, didn't it? Bite ya. You know what? I was bite. I was bitten. I got bit. I got bit. I got bit. You're right. I got bit. You're right. It all comes around. You know what? You're right. My attitude earlier was not good. And now I just got bit. And I'm sorry. It's not just that though. It's like people go, whoa, three years you shot it. That's not a good sign. That's coming. All these things.

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Just drinking it in, man. You got a lot going on back here. Oh, just, you know, my playground. I love the bear skin. Thank you so much. The oil painting. You have a beautiful vagina. Thank you so much.

Thank you so much. It's very tight. For a 50 year old or two year old, oh my god, very tight. What's going on guys? You can just put it on the side there. How's your podcast going? Great. We've been doing it for 10, what, 8 years? How many? Nine. Nine years.

Almost nine years. Yeah. Yeah almost nine years Wow, we still do it Rain would you like some stickers? Yes Here's a sticker. I don't even know what they are, but just cats. They know the stickers Are they cats? Yeah, they're cats. I think it's just a roll. It's from Taiwan Taiwan. Yeah, is it our stickers don't kill stickers that are like Taiwanese. Why not? All right That sounds great You might like how we need to hear Yeah, there's Bobby what's it's not giving him stickers. What is it? I want

That's such a rude question. I'll tell you that right now. So that's a rude question. I remember my life No, I want to go to Taiwan. We either let's go together. Gilbert was just there. Yeah, it's beautiful. That's the rudest question I've ever heard in my life. No. I wanna go to Taiwan. Me either, let's go together. Gilbert was just there. Yeah. It's beautiful, it's amazing. You've been there? Yeah, my wife's Taiwanese. Okay.

Yeah. I just saw this, you know how there are a couple like markets there? Night markets, yeah. Yeah, apparently there's, everyone goes through the two most popular ones, but apparently the third one is where all the Michelin recommendations are. Oh, I think I-

The smaller one, it's only with 180 stalls. I wonder which one that is. Yeah. Okay, what'd you just say? I didn't hear a word you just said. Food in Taiwan. Oh. Michelin star. Little known food night market.

See what happened? Stickers happened. See what the fuck happened, dude. ADD. He's got stickers on his fingers like a fucking nerd. Wow. There we go, now we're grooving dude. You wanna put that on or no?

You like them? Either way, it doesn't matter. Okay. What's going on guys? I don't know, we have Mr. Rogers here. You have a real cool like friendly vibe right now. You're a friendly guy. I'm a friendly guy. I'm kind of turning into Mr. Rogers in my old age. Oh you are? Yeah. Do you wish you should do a kid show? I should do a kid show. Don't you think? I'm a little weird for a kid show. What?

You keep saying that. what are you weird? Well, I mean, you picture me like with a bunch of kids, like I'm gonna say really inappropriate. It's just gonna happen, you know? I'll be your editor, I'll edit those things out. Oh sure. You know when you talk about QAnon or whatever, the kids are like, we don't know what that means,

you know what I mean? I would not edit that out. Perfect. Yeah, so let's start from the beginning and let's go three, two, one, mon, namaste, and I will introduce our guest. And I'm very blessed to be here. And I'm so very excited about our guest.

And I said that already. Like I keep saying, it's my show, and you can cut out whatever you want, put sound effects. It's unbelievable, what an unbelievable day. And my name is... Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. I'm trying to figure out where all the cameras are. There's so many cameras on you guys. There's one on me.

Oh, this one too. Right, right, we have the wide. Yeah, there's a wide and there's one, but if I talk to you, you can't see my face. Who arranged this? This is terrible. The guy in the suit. Yeah. Why did you do it that way? Why would you not have? Why would you have? Why would you not have coverage over here? Yeah. Why is there no coverage here, dude? It would be really confusing to edit. You'd cross

the line a whole bunch of times. We tried something. Cross the line. You don't want to cross the line a whole bunch of times. We tried something similar for- Cross the line. You don't wanna cross the line. There's no line in podcasts. The Yao Yang and the Godfrey episode. That's true, man. What the fuck's going on here, dude? There are no lines in podcasts.

Anyway, you know what, Mr. Wilson, let me say something. I will, next time you ever come back, I'll have a close-up one. I need more- I'll have a jib. GoPro. I'll have a couple of a close-up one I need more I'll have a jib go pro I'll have a jib I want a drone I will have a drone circling the place okay but only only covering me okay just coming down swooping yeah of course I want a jib arm I want a techno crane yeah look like you know what I'll even double down on America I'll put a green screen in back of you who nice you can be in space yeah friends oh Oh, I love it.

Dolphin friends. Anyway, I don't know why you say dolphin. And let's start from the beginning. Ready? Three, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two. Welcome. Somebody is Bobby Lee. Welcome, Tiger Valley.

We got Rainn Wilson. Give him a round of applause, everybody. You like it? Thanks, Bobby Lee.. You like it? Thanks Bobby Lee. You like it? I think he needs a better intro. Not really.

I like it. Alright. Give him a better intro. Really? Yeah. You can do better. I'm not going to even do something because that's what fucks it up I think. So hey everybody, thank you so much.

Anyway, thank you so much for being here. My name is Bobby Lee and this is, everyone knows there are people in the room, but listen guys, welcome to Tiger Belly. We have a great guest. I saw him in a Transformers movie, were you not in one? I was in one of those. As a teacher, a professor, whatever.

Yeah, yeah. I remember that. But he's also one of the greatest TV shows in the world ever made, The Office. And can I say this too, better than the English version. Whoa. Why'd you say that? Because I agree with you.

Thank you so much. I don't know that anyone these days still is like, oh, that American version is terrible, I like more English. I like all seven episodes of my English. Yeah. Didn't they do a Christmas one? Yeah, they did it. Anyway.

Special, yeah. But he's, I mean, I'll have to say, I don't know if you'll disagree with me, you're a scene stealer. You ripped that show, man. You were so iconic. One scene stealer to another. Yeah, dog, what's up, player?

Right? What's up, dog, what's up? Yeah. Rainn Wilson, give him a round of applause, everybody. Is that better? Is that better? Is that better? That was better. Yeah, yeah.

You're doing other things too. I just, you know. There's a lot of new hand signals out there. You just did a hand signal. I made it up though. Yeah, but there's, I saw someone, a guy passed me on a motorcycle and he did a, he did a thing and I have no idea what it was.

And I was trying to, he was like, and he did this like, and I was like, is that, is that a gang sign? Is it a three? What is it? He had carpal tunnel syndrome. There we go. I mean, he plays a lot of video games.

Yeah. I gotta quit. You know what I mean? Ray Wilson, I gotta quit. Yeah. But they're doing it in the NBA now. Like if you score a three pointer, you do like,

Oh, I don't think that's. You do it. Yeah, what do you mean? Three. They're like. Yeah. I can't do them, I can't do them. I think we should kind of maybe figure out our own,

you and I, that's what I would like to do with you. Let's come up with some hand. When I see you, a hand signal. Okay. Right, so it's like maybe these two like this close together. Okay. No, what?

You know, this, that is something already. That's the shocker. Oh yeah. That's a shocker. Okay. We don't want to do that. All right. Yeah. So maybe reverse it. Maybe reverse. But it could be like a Bobby. That's a, what this right here is the white supremacy.

Oh yeah. You guys got to find it. Let me offset that one by this one. I think this is blood. Whoa, see that's really good. That's deep cut. Don't put that on camera. Yeah, yeah.

Why not? I just learned it from the hood. Yeah, yeah, I don't even know how to do that. Yeah, yeah, you can't do that. Your fingers are too short. They're not decked. What about this? What about this?

I don't know what I'm looking at. Let me see that one. I like that one. What do you think? Do you like this? I just made this up. Yeah, yeah, let's just do that next time we see each other. All right. Yeah, I don't know what it means The red carpet. It's kind of like a sea anemone Crestation right or like in predator his face

His mouth comes out whatever right? I like that. What up predator? Sexual predator. Yeah, I'm from the movie. I mean, what it is. What's up, sexual predator? Yeah. Oh no, from the movie, I mean, what's up, space predator? What? What is space? Space, it's space. Anyway, so I, you know, so I'm gonna tell my fans what happened,

how we got together. Okay. We were hooked up, linked up with a mutual friend, and then I went to go do yours last week. Yeah. Last week? Yeah. A couple weeks ago. Something like that.

Something like that. And I was super nervous. Really? Really? Really? Yeah, I was super nervous. And I was like, because I didn't really, like, you know, we talked about we were in Vancouver

and that one time we walked down the street. Yeah. But I don't remember that. Well, you had a memory of me from 20 years ago that I didn't remember. Yeah, yeah had a memory of me from 20 years ago that I didn't remember. Yeah, yeah, and then when I worked with you on that pilot presentation. Right.

Right, so anyway, when I was... Because this is not necessarily a crossover audience, then you should tell the people the story of... That's right, that's right, that's right. It's what brought both of us to LA at the exact same time, Predator. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Predator. Listen.

Yeah, so yeah. We, I came, I had this sketch comedy performance art clown show called The New Bozena that I did with these friends. It was very, very surreal, odd, weird. And we had performed it off Broadway in New York and we got funding to bring it to LA to try and make it into a TV show.

We actually got a, what would, they did a live pilot presentation at Fox, which they did rarely, but they used to do, where you'd, it's literally like all the executives would show up and you'd perform it like a little play. They'd watch it during lunch, and then, you know, they'd decide if they wanted to make it into a TV show or not.

And so that brought us out there and we wrote that. And this was around 2000. And you had just moved to LA? I moved in 98, but it's like 2000. Oh, you just started on MADtv. Yeah, I just started on MADtv, yeah. And it was my first year and I was, and then I didn't, I wasn't used that much

on MADtv in the beginning. So I think somebody from Fox called me, or I ran into him at a table read, and he goes, can you help us out with this other thing? And I go, well, how much does it pay? They said nothing. And I go, do I have any lines? He said, no.

I go, I'll do it. Yeah, because I'm a, you know what I mean? Your game. Yeah, so I showed up at a rehearsal, and I met you and the other guys, and after the first run through, I was like, this is insane. I love this thing so much.

It was like one of those art pieces where like, you've never seen anything like it on television, and I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, oh, this is gonna revolutionize. You know what I mean? I really thought that. And then when we actually did the live, I just sat there, I just remember just sitting there, I don't know, and then you guys did your thing,

and then afterwards, you gave me a letter. I wrote you a letter, a thank you letter. Yeah, yeah, and it said, dear Bobby, I know you don't have any line or whatever, writer, but dude, you really helped us out, thank you so much. Sincerely, a fabulous writer. Yeah, yeah. And I went, oh, what an, and I had it in, helped us out, thank you so much. Ray and Wilson. Sincerely. Sincerely. Yeah, yeah.

And I went, oh, and I had it in one of my chests. Not in this, but like a chest. But here too. Here too. The heart. And then I lost, I don't know where it is, but I just remember. How many chests do you have?

Do you have multiple chests? He has multiple chests. Lots of chests, are they like antique from other cultures chests? One of them is. Yeah I think a couple that are like 16th century Korean chests. Yeah yeah yeah one of it one of it. What of it dog? Trying to take his chest? Yeah well yeah some people you know kind of say something? Yeah. Some people have cabinets. Yeah. Some people have dresser drawers. Right. You know what I have fucking chests on. And one of those chests I remember, because-

Sorry, my bad, that was too aggressive. There was a time when I was like organizing a bunch of your stuff. One of them was just headshots of you in a cowboy hat. It was just headshots of you. You in a cowboy hat and a little like- He has a headshot chest? Yeah, he had a headshot chest.

Every actor, upon arriving in LA, needs a headshot. Yeah, so I have a head, yeah, there was some, there's letters in there too, and there's also, you discovered a journal. I did. The little blue journal I have. Right.

Yeah, so. Did you read his journal? Yes. Did you, were you like, a headshots, headshots journal? I mean, those are one of the milder things that I found in there. Some of it I was like, oh. One photo is in Vegas, and when I went to Vegas,

I used to get two. Yeah. Right? So, you know, two for one or whatever. You know what I mean? Do they really have that deal? No, but there's always two girls like, um, sometimes they go together. Honestly, it's so smart.

Tag team. Like I wouldn't want to. Yeah. It's feel safe. Safety. 50%. So then I had one of those like, you know, digital, like not digital on those like, you know, throw, what do you call it?

Disposable. Disposable, sorry. Disposable cameras. So I was with one girl, she was naked, and I go, hey, Sabrina, take a photo of me and Sasha. And she's bent over and I'm like, that's it. That's the photo you saw. Yeah, I think one of. Did you use that as your headshot?

No, I didn't. No, I didn't. You should have used it. I'm not talking about it. You would have had a way bigger career. I don't know. Well, I mean, back in the day as a young comic, you would play Harrahs, right?

And you would do 17 shows on Monday through Friday, or Monday through Sunday, and no one was at the shows, and they were just so depressing. And I would just feel like killing myself. Because it's like no one, I was also opening. So you would open hair-Rawz, and it's one of those, if you go to a comedy club in Vegas, it's like, it comes with the package of the,

whatever, when people get a room and stuff. What are you looking at? Just looking at the cameras again. I wasn't listening, were you telling us, Phil? I know. Just looking at 360 out. Anyway you telling us? I know. Just look at 360 hours. Anyway, anyway, the journal too. So, and then I met him in, let's go back to Vancouver.

So I met him in Vancouver. I was doing Kickin' an Old School. Do you remember what movie you were doing? I was doing Dark Angel with Jessica Alba. Whoa. Oh my God, throwback. Throwback. From 20 years ago. Yeah. Wow. Soback. Throwback. From 20 years ago.

Yeah. Wow. So she was during dark age. 22 years ago. I was in Kikun Oto. But we were all at the Sutton Place. Yeah. So people listening, when you're shooting a movie

or TV show in Canada, in Vancouver. Everyone stays at the Sutton Place. Everyone plays at Sutton. You run into the craziest celebrities there. Yeah. So weird. It's wild. Yeah.

And I go, oh, there's so and so, there's so and so. But we were at the business center and I saw you and I guess we talked and then we walked down the street. But that's the only two times I saw you. What were you ever doing in a business center? Is that the first and last time you were ever at a fucking business center? What the hell?

What the hell are you doing? Were you faxing? Of course I love business. Were you faxing something? No, I didn't have, I think that's where the computers are you doing? Of course I love business. Were you faxing something? No, I didn't have, I think that's where the computers are. Yeah. I didn't have a computer. Okay.

So that's where I get my emails and whatnots. Touche. Touche to you, all right? You know, fancy people doing Dark Angels, you guys can afford a computer. Ooh, I couldn't afford one. I bet you got paid better on kicking it old school. What is that, by the way?

Is that a movie? What is it? It was a movie with me, Jamie Kennedy, and Marina Menounos. Maria Menounos, I know her. I love her. She's great. She's great. Maria Menounos, who else was in it?

Michael Rosenbaum. He just texted me like half an hour ago to play tennis. No, I play tennis. Oh, he's legit like state almost state tennis player. You know, I was on the tennis team in high school. I played varsity. Sorry. I play tennis.

Oh, let's play. So there I am. Rosenbaum. Right. Do you play tennis? I don't. I was a swimmer. Okay.

So Jamie Kennedy Maria. And then that's me. It was a break dancing movie. Oh my God. That's fantastic. Yeah. I don't, I was a swimmer. Okay. So Jamie Kennedy, Maria, and then that's me. It was a break dancing movie. Oh my God, that's fantastic. Yeah, so anyway, but Rosenbaum was the enemy in it. And that's where me and Rosie became very good friends. Yeah. And I've been friends with him since.

Yeah, he's great. I love him. Have you done his? Yeah, several times. I love him. More than you. I don't think so. I've done seven times.

I'm gonna call him right now. FaceTime. Really, seven times? Let's see, wait, let's both call? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who does he pick up first? That's what it says everywhere. Hold on, give me one second.

Let's do it at the same time. Yeah, but don't text him like, I'm going to pick up my first. All right. Are we doing FaceTime or regular call? FaceTime. FaceTime. FaceTime. Ready, three, two, one.

What? Oh, I didn't mind too late. This might be. Whoever has better Close to the mic guys Big money big money Rosie come on my buddy. You're my buddy. You're my buddy. You know you like me more come on He's not picking up for either one of us

An asshole fuck him the disaster fuck that guy It's an absolute. He's gonna call us later, but um Where we going back? Okay, so those are and this one when I was driving up to go see you Last week yeah, I am who does he call back first though? Let's turn our ringers on. Yeah This is so funny, yeah, yeah, let's keep turning that on. Let's see what happens here So last week I was like Super nervous. I don't know what it was. I was like because I well you knew that I was gonna go a little deeper than the normal Podcast I think that's what it was. I didn't know what to and yeah, but you didn't know what to expect

I did not know I didn't know what it was. How deep't know what to, yeah. But you didn't know what to expect. I did not know. I didn't know what it was. How deep did you go? Pretty fucking deep. We went deep. We went deep. Too deep almost. And I walked up there and I saw you. So many of that's what you're naming it.

What's your name again? Jokes just lying through the room, right? Karthik. Karthik. What a nice man, Karthik. Yes. What a gentle creature. Yeah. Yeah. So I walked upstairs, you guys were eating sushi.

What's the matter? The idea of just two people eating sushi and you walking in. Why? Why is that? It could be, Bean Burrito was as funny? That could be as funny as that. He's kind of your Ed McMahon.

He laughs at basically. I know he's great. He really does. I love him. And it's genuine. He's like really takes the light. How many episodes have you done of his? More than 400.

And you still laugh at his ridiculous. I think he is the funniest stand-up comic in the country Yeah, you hired. I love yes, man right person. He's also been every episode for almost 10 years. Yeah, almost yeah, right and He's been He's a guy I can rely on I can rely on you man. I mean you too Fuck you you white piece of shit. Anyway. I love you, dude. You too.

But anyway, I was nervous, but then once we started doing it, I was like, oh, I like this guy a lot. We're like, you know, two peas in a pod. And the name of the podcast is? Go ahead, plug it. Soul Boom, dropping April 9th. They're not out yet?

No. No. I'm banking a bunch of them. Really? Soul Boom. Yeah. I love that name. Thanks.

I wrote a book called Soul Boom, and this is kind of getting deep into the human experience. There's a picture of my book, and that's my author photo. Isn't that a crazy author photo? It's just like yeah. I wanted like intellectual Reign a little different than Dwight Reign. Yeah. Well it's funny it's like, let me talk about Dwight for a second. Okay. May I? You don't like, whenever I saw you, I think Dwight has a specific look in terms of his,

what he's wearing and the way he talks and stuff like that. So I don't really see Dwight when you're out and about, really. Yeah. Do you? People recognize you, like, oh, there's Dwight? Well, yeah, I mean, that's the price you pay when you do a hit sitcom for 10 years,

and you know, you just get known as the character. You know. It's a nightmare. Well, I would say it's a nightmare, but sometimes it's annoying, you know. Especially when you're walking through an airport or something and people are like Dwight, Dwight, Dwight. Yeah, yeah.

How am I gonna respond to that? Like it's a fictional character from a TV show from 10 years ago. Just go hi. Yeah, but I'm not in character. I'm not fly. Oh, that's true, right, right. I don't know, does that mean I'm supposed to like

pretend to be Dwight and be like, fact? You know, something like that. You know what I mean? Like, what am I supposed to do? Right, right, right, right. The worst is when they go, hey, I know I know you. Oh yes, this is, we've had a couple. I know I know you.

I'm like, okay. They're like, tell me. No, you fucking tell me, bitch! The saddest one was when we were, I think somewhere in Yucca Valley or something like that. I hate Yucca Valley, yeah. No, we love it there. Oh, I love it.

We love it there. I love it. We love it there. This episode's sponsored by Yucca Valley Tourism Board. And the woman checking you out at the grocery store or ringing you up, she insisted that you were somebody she knew or recognized, but got, I think she thought you were Ken Jeong.

And then you like, then you could see the, I know he's great. The rage switch. On me? Yeah, and then you Googled yourself on your phone. No, I didn't! Stop it. I didn't.

Don't put shit. I didn't. I did not do that. You did. I didn't do it! I didn't do that. Mom, dad, stop fighting. I did not do that.

Okay? Is this how they used to argue? Yeah. We were together? I did not do that. All the time. I take it back. I did not do that.

Why would I Google my own name? Because you were frustrated. Oh yeah, I think I did. Maybe I did that. You wanted to show her Bobby Lee look. Right, this is not, I'm not who you say I am. I'm this guy instead, which you were just correcting her. Yeah, then we go, I wasn't going like, here's my IMDB. Yeah, I didn't do that, yeah. I go see, no, what I do is this.

I get a Ken Jeong maybe 10 times a year. Tarantino? So 10 times a year, right? And so what I do is this. I get a Ken Jeong maybe 10 times a year. Tarantino? So 10 times a year, right? And so what I do is I Google Bobby Lee Ken Jeong. So there's always photos together. So I go see the difference. And they're always like, I don't, are they the same picture? My favorite is when people go,

does anyone ever tell you you look like that guy from The Office? And I'm like, yeah, they tell me all the time. Oh, you do that. I do that. And then I see how far I can go with that. And they're like, yeah, God, it's crazy how you you look like that guy from The Office and I'm like, yeah, they tell me all the time. Oh, you do that. I do that. And then I see how far I can go with that. And they're like, yeah, God is crazy. How much you look like?

I'm like, yeah, yeah. It's like, I hate that guy. You do it? And they're like, yeah, he's a terrible actor. And they're like, sometimes they're like, and sometimes they're like, I like him. All right. But do you ever break and you just gonna walk away them thinking that, wow, that's cool.

A lot of times I leave the conversation with them thinking they had a conversation with someone who looked just like Dwight. That's fun. Yeah. So they go home and they're like, I saw a guy who looked just like Dwight today. Wow.

Wow. It was uncanny. Yeah. You think that's going to be the rest of your life? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think that's gonna be the rest of your life? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think so. Yeah, it's like having, you know, diabetes or something.

But also because he's like a character, so even if I'm like 77 and kind of hunched over, there's gonna be a little, still gonna be some Dwight there. That's great, man. Are you blessed by it, though? Do you guys have any questions prepared for this? We don't do that here. Is this just we just wing it. What we do. Right. You don't like it like this or let's go. Okay. Let's go back. Let's you know what? Right here. I have some real questions. Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Ray Did you audition for the office? Yes. All right, what's your question?

Are we supposed to add information? Yeah, I auditioned for the office. OK, next question. You really want to hear the answer to that question that people have been asking me for 20 years, seriously? Headset. Kalyla, finally. Finally.

Are you doing yoga? Yeah, I'm trying. I'll tell you this. I don't want to know. I really don't want to know. You're right, it's a hacky question. It's just like, it's a little obvious. As far as office questions go.

And you know what? I'm not going to, and I'm going to say this too. You know, I know Jenna too. Yes, you do. And I asked her the same question. Jenna's the best. Yeah, and I'm gonna say this too. Yeah. You know, I know Jenna too. Yes you do. And I asked her the same question. Jenna's the best. Yeah, and she was very irritated as well. She was not.

She was Jenna as sweet as honey. She yelled at me once. We were on a sitcom together. When did she yell at you? Tell him the story. Oh my God. Tell me the Jenna yelling at you story, please. So she goes, when she was doing,

so we had a scene together and I was behind the camera, right? And she's looking. Doing off lines, yeah. Off lines. And I was playing Candy Crush. I knew the lines. That's terrible. That is so, for those watching.

No, shut the fuck up. There's no way. That is so unprofessional. That's what I'm saying. It's late at night. It's a single camera. Oh, yours is a single camera too? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right, so I was playing Candy Crush and I think I had the volume up. So as she stayed in the left ear, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, like John Krasinski. Oh, oh, burn! I go, what? I go, what? She's like, you know, you're so rude. And she kind of, like, and deservedly so. You know what I mean?

It was irritating. And I go, I'm so sorry, I put it away. So I put it away. Did you apologize? I did, immensely. Of course I did. But the worst thing that I did with her is that one morning.

So one morning, I had a scene where it was just her and I, it was a huge day, you know what I mean? It's like a lot of dialogue, a lot of setups and stuff. And my call time was at six in the morning. And at 10 in the morning, I get awoken by somebody in my house. Do you remember that? And I go, who's in my house?

And I go in, right, it's a guy, Pierre or whatever. He's like, he has a 6 a.m. call. I had to sneak in. You wouldn't pick up, you know? Whatever I was wearing then, I got in the car. In my pajamas. I went straight to the Warner Brothers. That's fantastic.

And they had to do all her coverage from six, I mean, whatever, if they called them six, so eight o'clock is screen, you know, when they start shooting. So they had to do all her coverage first. She was not in a good mood. I think, and understandably so. Yeah.

Have you ever done that? You were there together? That's when we were together. Why did you not wake him up? It's not that it's your job, but I'm just curious. Honestly, here's the thing. Were you sleeping in too? No, it wasn't that. There was a job, but I'm just curious. Honestly, here's the thing. Were you sleeping in too? No, it wasn't that.

There was a time, like I think five years into the relationship when I decided that I wasn't, I was gonna let him like handle the con, deal with the consequences. Cause I'd always covered for him up until that point. And I found myself just being in like mother mode too much and being like, hey, it's 4 a.m. You're still playing video games.

You have a call time at six. And he's like, fuck, I don't care. Fuck it. And so I was like, you know what? I'll memorize my lines there. Yeah, I'm gonna let him suffer. And so I think that was when I was like, he's gonna suffer and he did. I suffered and so Emily Kapnick, the executive producer,

and when I showed up, she wouldn't even look at me. I thought I was fired for sure. And I remember this moment, it was like eight o'clock at night, I'm sitting there just hunched over, they're setting something up. And as Emily comes up from behind me, she puts my hand, her hand on my shoulder. She doesn't even look at me, she just goes,

don't ever do that again. And she just walked away. It was, it put a chill down my spine. And I got two alarm clocks that, the next day. Two alarm clocks. You've never been late? Oh, I have. Oh, there we go. Don't judge me.

No, one worse is that I was just starting my career. This was around the time of the new Bozina we met. And I did a guest spot on Charmed, the original Charmed. Yes, I played Kier K Kan, the demon alchemist. Was Shannon still on? Rainn Wilson, yes. Kier Kan. Kier Kan, the alchemist.

There he is. Oh! Oh, Kier Kan! Look how much hair I had. I was the handsome young man. You were. Can I get a bigger photo? Come on.

Yeah, yeah. Not the fiery one. No, I want the fiery one. This one, this one? Yeah. Yeah, I remember all that. So I had a scene on that. I was just a guest star and I overslept.

My call was like at seven. Here in LA or? In LA. In LA, wow. And I showed up at like 10 and it was, they were pissed. But I wasn't even like a series regular. Oh my God. I felt mortified, mortified.

And sometimes they'll probably fire somebody. Some people have been fired probably. Sure, absolutely. But they already had some stuff of me in the can. So they are doing a cost benefit analysis of like, should we fire him? But look at that magic that they got. Wow.

On me. Wow, look at that magical hand. But sometimes when you're late, for a couple hours late, and they're still not ready for you, so then in your mind you're going, you're like, eh. They call you in too early.

Can we let it agree? Go ahead, what's this? Can I see your hands? Oh my God, your three fingers are almost identical in length to each other. Wow. That's not true, look at them now. Okay, maybe not here, but oh sorry.

That's called movie magic. That's Kierkan. Yeah, the Kierkan. That's a character choice that I made. Really? Demon alchemists have, well they're pretending to be humans. I was actually in demon form and human shape and I was like, and I went to the makeup department

like can you make all my fingers the same? I have a question. Yeah, go ahead. How long did you live in Nicaragua for? Thank you for that intelligent probing question. I lived in Nicaragua for about two, two and a half years when I was a kid, when I was like three to five years old. Okay, is there, and after that you stayed mostly,

I'm asking because I always think about like third culture kids and what that does to a growing kid to have lived in like a different country. Yeah, yeah. I really am so grateful that my parents lived there. So we lived there late 60s, early 70s. I was just a kid, even before kindergarten. And just my whole life, like I had an experience of living not only in a different country, but this area of Nicaragua, we lived at Bluefields on the Caribbean coast, which by the way, fun fact, Theo Vaughn's dad,

who was like ancient, right? Came, he was like German descent or something like that, but he lived there as well in the same town. No way. Wow. That is a problem. I lived in the same town as Theo Vaughn's dad. Wow. Which was great, and I've said to Theo,

like let's go, go do a comedy show there let's go. Yeah he'll never. Yeah he's not that's not. He's never gonna do it. Yeah man let's look into that bro. Yeah. But the thing that you and I talked about that we were gonna do is that in the way or no? What? What thing? The thing that we're gonna do with David like we're gonna go take a retreat. Oh meditation retreat. Yeah. Yeah, Rain, and David. And a gourmet vegan chef. And a gourmet vegan chef.

Yeah. I want to put my phones away. No video games? None. No cha-tabaca? No cha. No cha. No cha-tabaca.

And then what we do is, what we're going to do is we're going to go up either a cave or a log cabin. We don't bring our phones or anything. Spend a week meditating, eating vegan. Now I imagine you've probably done this a lot in your life. I haven't really, not like what we're talking about. But I just want you to proceed with caution with this guy.

There's a couple things that I would probably, that you would deal with. Okay. Fucking bitch. Low blood sugar. Okay that you would deal with. Okay. Fucking bitch. Low blood sugar. Okay. You're low blood. And I think the number one thing

that gets him the most jittery is when he doesn't have technology. He's like, he's just a process addiction guy, right? So you would have to deal with the- Would he be masturbating a lot? Honestly, Rain, honestly? Olympic level masturbation. Yeah.

Three, four times a day. Yeah, I would keep my distance. More Special Olympics, but yeah. But that sounds really good for you. I just like worry about the people with you. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you can potentially ruin. You poke, you prod, you say scandalous things.

And I just didn't even get you some time. Let me say something to you, lady, okay? The reason why I asked Mr. Wilson that I wanna do this because I wanna get away from all those things. I find myself lost in a sea of the internet. And I feel, you know, I'm sober, guys, so it's like I just see myself going to other addictions to not, you know what I mean, live with my feelings.

So I looked at this young man here, I go, I know that this guy's a spiritual guy, and I wanna be spiritual, I think I'm spiritual, and I wanna do this adventure with them, right? But for you to do this. You're right, I'm sorry. You think I'm gonna bring my Game Boy and my fucking Switch and stuff?

He might sneak in some contraband for sure. Yeah yeah but anyway I really want to do it. So no tobacco what are the rules? What's the tobacco thing? Well what if we do no caffeine? No tobacco. So it's a full detox then? Yeah full detox. Okay let me just say that was not what we talked about earlier. Keep moving the goalpost. You add add stuff. You can't add shit, right? The thing is this okay? Let's see this Okay, this is the place we go. Okay. Okay. All right. I'm sure you can have you chewing tobacco. Okay fine. That's it Yeah, what else that's all I want and have some tea. We have tea you can have tea Yeah, you can have some caffeine. We'll do caffeine years from now okay that'll be the third third time we're third time

so what I'm saying I really want to do it though okay let's do it yeah let's figure it out it's not happening oh it's up to me to make it happen who do I call it should I really call Dave and go let's do this happen yeah let's we'll figure it out he's was he is he in the city or no, he's probably no he's he's around David. Yeah, can I call him? Yeah No, I'll call me later. Fuck it June June let's go in June really. Yeah, I would really like it. Maybe I'll vlog it or no No, we're not gonna vlog it. We're not gonna we're not gonna record. We're not gonna social. We should vlog it We're not gonna social media it That's the vlog it, we should vlog it. We're not gonna social media it.

That's the whole point. We're just gonna have an experience. We're just gonna experience it. We gotta capture that experience. We're not gonna document it and make money off of it. Oh, you're right, okay, you're good, you're good. So the thing is about Nicaragua is that I, all my whole life, I know what it's like to live

in a jungle where people are super, super poor and it's an entirely different culture and a completely different way of living. So even when I'm 16 and I'm taking my first date to Farrell's Ice Cream Parlor in the mall, I have that kind of visceral understanding of a different culture and a different way of life. So I found it really, it was really, it's really cool.

It's one of the parts of my life that I'm most kind of proud of and drawn to. And I keep wanting to go back to that town. It is a crazy area, it's called the Mosquito Coast. And it's on the Caribbean coast of Nicaragua. And there's still- Is there a movie called that? There is a movie called that. That's all I wanna say. And then they made a TV show coast of Nicaragua. Is there a movie called that? There is a movie called that.

That's all I wanna say. And then they made a TV show out of it as well. And it's totally, there's Indian tribes there that like don't speak any English or even in Spanish. Whoa. Yeah, they're just- Indigenous. Just indigenous and they're mosquito Indians and there's some other tribes of Indians there.

And it's really, there's a lot of drug runners too. It can be very dangerous. They call them white lobsters, which are the parcels of cocaine wrapped in plastic. They come bobbing along the shore and the fishermen get them and probably sell them for like a hundred bucks. Wow. Even though they're worth thousands. And is there electricity? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

Because I went to Honduras once, there was no electricity the place I was at. Oh really? Yeah, that's why I was asking. Wow. So I could go to Mosquito Coast, like. You wanna come with me? I don't wanna go with you,

I just theoretically I can go. Yeah. You go to Managua, Nicaragua, which is not, it's not the safest place these days. A lot of political problems there as well. The guy, Ortega, there was a big communist revolution there in the early 70s. And then the guy Daniel Ortega has been in power for 35, 40 years or something like that. And he, he runs out any kind of journalist or political rival out of town or strings them up in the town square.

So it's not a safe and fun country. Wow. But beautiful place. And then you take a little plane from there over to Blue Fields. What's a Blue Field? That's what they call it. It is crazy.

Culturally, it's just a melange of all these different, there's a lot of Jamaicans there, there's black folks that are like runaway slaves from 100, 150 years ago. They speak like Creole, the radio station there, my dad told me the number one kind of music at the time was country music. The country radio station.

And like, yeah. And yeah, it's crazy. Were your parents hippies? They were kind of And like, yeah. And yeah, it was crazy. Were your parents hippies? They were kind of hippies, yeah. They were the hippie-ish. There weren't, there's so many, when you say hippie, you think of a certain thing. It wasn't like long hair and like, spleefs, right?

It was like, more like free spirit, bohemian, express yourself hippies. Are they still together? No, no, express yourself hippies. Are they still together? No, no, dear God, no. They got divorced? I have a long, fractured, weird family story. You don't want to. Oh no, no, I did hear something that you said to me

last week, that's why I get it. I understand. Yeah. Anyway, so let's talk about your podcast. I want to promote your podcast. Sonic Boom, Spiritual Boom, what's that? Soul Boom. Soul Boom.

Soul Boom. Soul Boom, Bobby. Ray, don't be offended, this is how I do it. Even Gilbert didn't laugh at that one. That's crazy, that was the first time. That's crazy. It's all good. Everyone, America loves you.

What America's... America loves them some Bobby Lee. We can't get enough. I'm confused. It's like watching a train wreck in front of your eyes. Like when is he gonna have that? Do you ever have, have you ever locked them into a genuine moment where you thought,

okay, the cameras are off, he's not doing this for play. And you really get just like core Bobby. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what makes Bobby so delightful and why people love him so much is he's just so ready to be vulnerable and, um, and, and share his struggles and, you know, on camera and off camera. And then, and then he covers it with humor, but you see like that broken, weeping child inside.

I know, I know. I know. And it's this dance back and forth, it's adorable, you just wanna hug. I know. Just wanna hug him. The routine is tiresome, and I see myself doing it. It's like, when I'm talking to somebody,

and I'm like being vulnerable and being real, and all of a sudden something kicks in where I have to do something to like get me out of it or whatever because I'm scared of the feelings and I what's crazy is I notice me myself doing it now like I'll catch myself I go I'll apologize to the person I'm talking to I'm sorry that was like that's me not wanting to feel or being here. Sad clowns, you and me were sad clowns. Making the magic people.

So good. And I wanna be, well, here's the good news. I catch myself. Before you don't even notice it. Right. Right, so now the good news. I catch myself before you don't even notice it. Right. So now I can go. You're gaining some self-awareness. Yeah, you're doing it again.

And then you ask yourself, why am I doing it? And then I always go, just feel whatever you're feeling. So it's like, I do it when I read a negative comment. So if I read a negative comment on the internet, it spins me into, I can't even tell you, a spiraling of this. Let's do something right now. Let's do a little therapy right now. Do you mind if we just do an exercise?

Gilbert, go to an episode, the last episode of Tiger Belly on YouTube and just go to the comment section. It's gonna be about me, not Bobby. It's gonna be the other. It's gonna be about her. I'm the one who gets the heat. She gets a lot from the heat.

She gets a lot of negativity? Yeah, a lot of negativity. Bobby is beloved, untouchable. Why? I don't know. I think that, you know, I've always just been the girl in his life and have sort of just been painted as this villainous thing because, I don't know know for reasons I can't explain I think that a lot of times when we first got together they saw this who they thought was not an idea their

idea of like a handsome man and I was this towering hot chick in their eyes 10 years ago and they were like she's got to be some villainous gold digging bitch. I want to say something that just happened. And that'll, yeah, go ahead. So I was in Vegas a couple of weeks ago and I was with a friend of mine who's very pretty. And there was a lot of photos with us together, right? And immediately she calls me and she goes,

I'm getting so much hate. They're like, they're calling me a whore, a gold digger. And she goes, I've never gotten that before. And the reason why is because when people in the internet see me with a beautiful girl, they can't believe it's other than that. Right, right, they think that like, it's like, oh, there's no way a hot chick's gonna date

that fat piece of shit, so she's gotta be a gold digger, when in reality is that I win them over with who I am. Also, I have also, I mean, I've been podcasting for 10 years, and I've just told some pretty ratchet stories about growing up in the Philippines, and they've really taken some of those and ran with it. For example, when I was about, I think, six or seven years old, one of my older

cousins, I had a dog who was super horny and trying to hump another dog. It was a joke for him. He was like, you should go do this and jerk him off. I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. I was six years old. I told a story in a podcast how I didn't know I was jerking a dog off and now I'm the dog jerker offer. That's just what the internet runs with. It's sad, sad stuff. But. When I read shit about her, it breaks my heart.

But maybe you should, I immediately go like, we should merch that. You know? The dog jerker offer. We need like a you with a dog and a thing. Yeah. Yeah, like today, for instance, one of the comments I got today was like.

You're still reading comments. No, sometimes they slip through the cracks. And so, and one of it was, I'm just disgusted by what I've learned about you today. And I'm like, in my head, I'm like, it's the dog jerker offer thing I know it has to be the dog jerker offer everyone has the dog jerker offer story in their background So anyone who is judging you from something stupid you did when you were a kid and you had no idea

How bad it was then they don't I mean how do you deal with negative comments? Yeah, what spins you? We talked about this. We did, yeah. Early on in the office, and I was on Six Feet Under and a couple other shows early on, that was the dawn of all the message boards. It was like television without pity was one I used to go to. IMDb used to have message boards.

There were a lot of shows had their own message board. And I would, early on in my career, because I had struggled for so long. I was a lot of shows had their own message board. And I would early on in my career, because I had struggled for so long, I was a theater actor, and I hadn't it was broke all the time. I never had any success. So I didn't start getting famous till I was like 3839 years old, which is crazy. And so I gobbled up these comments. I would stay up till two in the morning, just reading through any if there's any comments about me. And so many of them were like, I remember there was one I did,

I think it was when I was on Six Feet Under, and someone called me Pig Boy. And they would be like, oh, I can't believe Piggy was back on the show. Oh, that Pig Boy. And I was like, oh, I kinda do look like a pig. I have a little nose and a smushed face. And I was like, oh, I kind of do look like a pig. I have a little nose and a smushed face. And I was like, oh, that hurts.

But I kept going back and this person kept showing up, calling me pig boy. Why do you think we keep going back? Well, he stopped probably. I tell you why, because we're narcissists and we need external validation. Because we don't know how to feel good and comfortable and whole and well in and of ourselves

regardless of what people think of us. Although I'm in a very different place now than I was back then. So I'm in a much healthier place. Did you do your test? Did you find anything negative about Bobby? It's not a lot, but I'll let you choose. You want to just choose a random episode? Yeah.

Because a lot of it is. So we'll go with, uh, go with Eli Roth. Okay. Oh, I know Eli. Let's zoom up. I love when an episode goes over an hour and 15 minutes. You can just watch Bobby slowly lose it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, wow. He's dying to get out of there 486 likes a lot of likes 500 people are like yep next comment i have never seen bobby be so humbled about movies we got to move on a little faster let's go uh i would okay i love this episode

yeah there's nothing there's nothing negative It's not it's I don't get it there. I get it in my direct messages. Yeah Like go die. Hope you die stuff It's I'm not seeing anything a lot of these are not negative on on on YouTube. Okay. Yeah Let's you go unless they get flagged because I mean I get a lot of negative ones guesting on a podcast or something. Oh, you get it, I don't want you to go, Reddit is where they're out for my blood.

Everyone's blood. But that's everyone's blood. Yeah, because I guess these people, if they're watching Tiger Belly eight years into the show, they're fans already, so it's not, yeah. But this is what I've been doing, this is what I do. So I read something like, really negative on my direct messages like when are you gonna kill yourself mm-hmm right I want you to die now you can change your

settings on your direct messages so you don't get any direct messages I can't because I that's where I get that's correct oh that's where I get the girls too. So I get a lot of like titty ones too. You know what I mean? I love the titty ones so I risk it. This one, you know, in the thumbnail, whatever, the profile picture, I go, she looks cute. I press it.

It's either titties or why don't you kill yourself? So it's a gamble. It's like, you know what I mean? Gambling. You're rolling the dice. Right. So maybe I should not look at the titties. Titty free. You know what I mean? But this is what I've been doing. So they say like, you're a piece of shit, whatever. And what I'll do is I'll put the phones aside and I'll feel whatever I'm feeling there and just sit with it. Mm-hmm, right and then and just kind of soothe myself you know and

The more I do that. I feel like the better it gets You know, I can just feel my feelings, you know, I mean without reacting and going into this place of like, you know me well think about the person who sent that because I'm trying to right now thinking about about who's the person who sends a direct message or leaves a comment and says, why don't you kill yourself? You're a piece of shit, I hate you, whatever. What's going on with them? Is it bullying or do they feel the same way about themselves?

I'm wondering, like, the diggled little peeper. No, they're triggered by something that I said, which I understand. And they put, whatever they went through in their lives, maybe they were, something awful happened, right? They take all that rage and stuff, and they throw it to me.

And they give your words meaning somehow. They get my, you know, I'm just a jokester. I say fucked up things, and so I know what I do, but it's like, I understand that there are people that are hurt, and they're, you hurt and they need someone to lash out on. That's the way it comes out, I guess. But it's like, and I have to understand all that stuff, but I'm still super sensitive and I really am.

And I get- Celebrities, we're regular people too. We get our feelings hurt. Yeah. We're regular people too. We get our feelings hurt. When was the last bad day you had? Can you remember the last terrible day you had where you were like, fuck this, I hate this. I'm spinning out of control. When was the last day and what?

No, the last time you felt like fuck, like I'm having. From the internet you mean? No, just in general, from life. Oh. I had some bad days last year, it was because my son was sick and he's fine now. Oh no. He got very sick and he was hospitalized a couple of times.

But that's, you don't mean that though. No, that's what I mean. You mean worse? That's what you mean, right? Yeah, like or just the last time you were like, I fucking hate this life, I hate people, I hate everyone. Cause like you get to a place where you've been therapy for so long.

Like I think I have, right? Where it's like, oh, I think I deal with life, you know, a lot better. And all it takes is for one thing to happen. And I just have a string of just like, oh, like I want to get the fuck out of here. I want to check out. I'm just like spiraling.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna have. I'm just like spiraling. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have bad days all the time, you know? Like, I guess for me, it's like back in the day, you know, it would, I would spiral, it would spiral out of control. Like it was bad news and bad days and my everything would be ruined. And now it's like, maybe it's age,

but I also, it's like some recovery and some therapy and you know, meditation practice and whatnot. It's just, you bend like the tree, but the tree doesn't go all the way to the ground. Like there's bad days and good days, I don't know. So it's not as extreme, that's all I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm just trying to be mindful about what's real. So sometimes I'll tell my therapist, I'll go, this is going to, this happened, this and that. And she's like, look at the evidence of your life. And it doesn't support that. You know, my sponsor said that fear stands for false evidence appearing real. Wow. That's what it is.

False evidence appearing real. That's so good. Pretty good, right? That is so good. Yeah, that's what it is. 99.9% of my pain and suffering is in here. I do it to myself. Because when I walk outside in the world,

people, good morning. I go, hi, good morning, Mr. Nelson. Nothing's happened. I don't have a neighbor named Mr. Nelson. I don't know why I just did that. But my point is that I go to the club, everyone likes Right, like nothing's happened. I don't have a neighbor named Mr. I don't know why I just did that. But my point is that I go to the club, everyone likes me, everything's fine. But in here it's like this, this fucking trap, nightmare.

You know what I mean? It's like I gotta get released from this. And it's just, you know, it's what Eckhart Tolle says, you know what I mean? Observe it, but that's not who you are. Your mind. Yeah, and we talked about that. We talked about it on yours.

In terms of meditation, there's the element of meditation where you're almost looking down on yourself and you're realizing, oh, I'm not my thoughts, I am not my feelings. Exactly. I am whatever I am, whatever this is, whatever consciousness is, however it works, I have a different relationship to myself.

We're always like inside our brains looking out through these little 3D cameras having this experience of consciousness. So when you when you have a meditation experience and you're just kind of like looking yourself down on yourself at the at the bench or the chair or on the floor or whatever, it can shift your perspective. Yeah. But Bobby, come on. Okay. This is in your brain. But eight or 10 hours of video games, endless one night stands, constant social media, tobacco and caffeine, you're sober otherwise, right? From chemicals, right?

Like this does not set you up for a great deal of like mental serenity, right? And you know that, you know this. And you're, but you're not willing to like go the extra, you're not willing to go the extra step to kind of like deal with these other process addictions that keep you distracted and numbed out and checked out and keeping you from feeling your feelings. Yeah.

I guess, yeah, you're right. You're right in that I don't think I've ever seen Bobby not move on to another process addiction while giving one up. Like it's always been a trade-in situation. You know, even- Did I go too far? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is good.

Cause you talk about this all the time. No, I know we talked about it on your, I talk about it all the time, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, to smash your Xbox and you're- I'm not smashing my Xbox, that's insane. That's fucking insane, I'm not smashing it. But I haven't turned it on in two weeks. Well, that's good. That's good. Only because the game got boring. And what replaced it? So what replaced it was, so there's this, you know how Netflix has video games, mobile games?

So I downloaded a mobile game from Netflix, and I go, what's this little thing, right? And I just love it. The office mobile game. It's and I go, what's this little thing, right? And I just love it. The office mobile game. It's like Candy Crush, but there's like animals in it. It makes all these cute noises, and I love it. Anyway, yeah, you're right. Because you know all these video game designers,

in-house they have psychiatrists and psychologists that figure out algorithmic formulas of dopamine release. So you're on Candy Crusher, you're in this little game, and it's like a slot machine. It's like, oh, no, didn't win, didn't win, didn't win. Oh, won a little, didn't win, didn, bum. Because they do studies and they figure out how human do, so it keeps you coming back. Oh my God. You are being manipulated,

manipulated by these game makers. Oh my God. Yeah, you're right, you know, and like everything in life, I get to a point where I'm like, I'm tired of it, I'm depressed, I gotta get out of this and I will change it. I'm beginning to do it now. Even like what you just said was so impactful.

It was like a reality check. So why don't you get rid of your Xbox? I'm just kidding. How about this, give me. That's crazy. Holy shit, this is bad talk. Oh man, that's insane. Give me your Xbox.

I will not, I refuse, I refuse. I'm gonna keep it in the trunk of my car. When you need it back, I'll give it back. I'm gonna give you books to read. What, you get dopamine hits from books too? Oh, fucking Harry Potter fell off the cliff. You get that too, dude. Right, it's the same thing. It's kinda true. You do get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too.

You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too.

You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. You get dopamine hits from books too. Oh, fucking Harry Potter fell off the cliff. Oh, you get that too, dude. Right, it's the same thing. It's kinda true. You do get dopamine hits from everything,

but you're not being, you're gonna have your brain hijacked and manipulated by companies that are there to try and suck your money and keep you chained to your devices. You get a dopamine from taking a sip of a delicious hot matcha beverage. Okay. I just got a dopamine release.

Okay. That is so interesting. I do want to. And laughter and conversation releases dopamine. Connection. Healthy dopamine. Connection. Look at us, come on, hands around, hands around.

Okay, okay, we got it. All right, we do, okay, triangles. I love it, okay, good. See, we just got some dopamine. Yeah, we did, we did. I am so it, okay, good. We just got some dopamine right there. Yeah, we did, we did. I am so curious to know who that Bobby is though. Like sans everything. Here we go, what are you talking about?

Sans nicotine, sans candy crush without everything. Like I do wonder who that guy is. What do they call it? Dopamine fasting? Is that what they call it? Yeah, dopamine fasting. Would you ever do a flip phone, Bobby? What's a flip phone?

It's like an old-time? Just back to analog. Go back to like 1999. I did it for one week, and I felt like I had superpowers. But my iMessage, I didn't turn it all the way off completely, so I wasn't getting messages from dumbfounded for a shoot, so I kind of messed that up. So I felt I couldn't do it.

So just text messages and calls. A flip phone gives you superpowers. So I go to Verizon, I go, give me the ghetto flip. Is that what you get? Yeah. There was an to Verizon, I go, give me the ghetto flip. Is that what you get? Yeah. There was an article that came out recently, I think I sent it to a friend, you find it in the New York Times,

this guy did the best flip phones, and he did like, he lived with all of these different flip phones and dumb phones, they call them, not smartphones, and found there's some good options out there. Okay. And there's ones that have like maps, because there's certain good options out there. Okay. And there's ones that have like maps, because I, there's certain things on here that I really

like the podcast app, the maps app, there's things I can't live without. I need those. I need them. I need those. Yeah. So what podcast? I need them. I need that.

Just print your directions on MapQuest like the old days. Yeah. Anyway, let's, let's start with the retreat first and let's move on. Maybe I'll discover some, let's, okay. So I'm going and let's move on maybe I'll discover so I let's okay So I'm gonna call David later. I'm gonna set it out We have to do it I need it for my life and maybe I'll discover something when I'm there in the woods wherever we are Yeah, and I'll go. Okay. I think this is who I really am

Okay, but anyway we go into detail about all this stuff on your podcast, Soul Boom, and it comes out when? April 9th. April 9th. All my fans, I'm telling you, you're gonna see a side of me you've never seen before on his podcast, so go literally check it out, it's so good. I've never been like that on any other podcast.

I was pretty like, I was really listening, and I was really like engaged in on a real level I wasn't doing my crazies you mean so literally it's a great podcast I love this guy Rainn Wilson and I love you so much and I'm so glad that you're you know I've met you and we we're gonna have a friendship yeah I would love to be friends we are friends okay are friends. Okay. We're friends. I did text you the other day and then you didn't text me. I felt like I said something mean. That's not true. Yeah. I complained to them. He called me and he was worried that you had, he had said

something. I said something, I said the wrong thing. I said you look like a Miyazaki forest creature. That's what I said to you. Yeah and then I sent you a picture of me looking like a Miyazaki forest picture. I'm gonna show you right now, I didn't get that. Look. He didn't get that. Wait, what, let me see. Yeah, cause he had me. Oh yeah, I didn't download it though.

You have to download your photo? Yeah, I had to download my photos. All right, good, well then that's good. That's a great picture, by the way. We're good now. We're good now, dude. I thought you hadn't responded on it, I'm like, oh, I think I heard his feelings.

But it wasn't like, like I look like a Miyazaki force, but you're a creature. You really do. From Princess. I know, yeah. I know, I know, okay. Anyway, give Rain a round of applause. That was a great fucking podcast.

I love you guys so much. Thank you for watching!