Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 31 - The Mandela Effect: False Memories, Satanic Cults, Parallel Universes, and more...

Episode Date: April 17, 2017

The Mandela Effect: a large group of people remembering an event that never happened or remembering an alternate version of an event that did happen in the same, incorrect way. Is this proof that there are parallel dimensions some of us are slipping in and out of? Is it the perfectly explainable result of false memory creation? Or, is it a glitch in some futuristic computer simulation we're all currently (virtually) living in? We go full Twilight Zone on today's Timesuck! And please, if you haven't done so already, support Timesuck by filling out a quick survey at http://podsurvey.com/timesuck (You could win a $100 Amazon gift card!)

Do you remember when apartheid advocate and political prisoner Nelson Mandela died in South African prison? Or how he used to watch sex in the city or how the monopoly man wears a monocle? Or how Darth Vader says, Luke, I am your father and the empire strikes back. Or maybe Hannibal Lecter saying, Hello Clarice in silence of the lambs. Will any of this sounds correct to you? Congratulations, you're wrong. You got Mandela, my friend. That's the Mandela effect term coined by a paranormal researcher Fiona Brum in 2010 used to describe a large group of people

Most of whom have never met each other all remembering an event that never happened Nelson Mandela was released from prison on February 11th 1990 died of free man 23 years later on December 5th, 2013 There was never a show called Sex in the city. There was a show called Sex and the City. The monopoly man never wore a monocle. Maybe you're thinking about little planner's peanut dude, that little chicken like a bastard he did. Lord Vader never said, look, I am your father. Now he said, no, I am your father. And Hannibal Lecter never said, hello Clarice.

Never said it once in 1991, silence of the lamps. However, it was so commonly thought that he did, the writers through that line in 2001's Hannibal just for fun. So why does this happen? Is it some psychological collective misfire to be filed under the phenomenon of false memory syndrome? Or is it what Fiona Broome suggests? Real memories of real variations on events that have taken place in an alternate reality.

A parallel universe that many of us have visited without even realizing it. Or is it proof of something even weirder than that, that we're all living in some giant computer simulation? A program so advanced and complex, us lumps of binary code actually think we're real and shit. Find out all this and more in a strange, twilight-zone-ish edition of TimeSuck. Welcome to TimeSuck, everybody. Happy Monday, you time sucker motherfuckers. Huge shout out to those sweet, suckin' BDMs.

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All right, recommended by Dan, actually. Dan, Dan got it right. He got me a big boy mic. A standard mic found in radio stations nationwide. My God, I just did a little sound test yesterday and I just had a joy orgasm. I was so happy. I would listen to the way it was before and then the way it is now and it's like, oh, buddy.

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I listen to all of it, I read all the emails. And again, I know that there was some problems for some of you hearing that suck in the truck, couldn't get the volume up high enough. This should knock that out. Let me know if it doesn't. Should be fucking perfect now. Should be getting that perfect truck suck coming your way.

And I also heard your emails about the segment in Tros Outros coming a little hot. And so I've remixed the time suck at a template. I hope the smoother ride all around. All right, you can't get stay up with the suck. You gotta keep fine tuning it. No one wants that old outdated suck. No one wants a high noon behind a truck stop dumpster suck.

They want that midnight penthouse suck, maybe a snack tray. Thanks to all you time suckers, pushing so hard for this episode too. I started researching this one. This is the only one I walked away from. I was gonna do Mandela Effect months ago, and then I just, I was already.

I couldn't get my head around it. It's fucking heavy. Just crazy stuff. I don't know if it would work, but the request just kept coming in. I think it's one of the most requested topics. Time sucker Kyle Serato asked for this long time going on Facebook.

Time sucker T-shirt warrior Jason Haney emailed me about it months ago. Time sucker Nate Sky hit me up on Instagram and emailed me about it later. Sam Kray, Mike Vott, asked to suck Mandela on Facebook, at Guy with no YouTube via Twitter, hit me up, Aaron via email, Alex Hurd, Garrett Cooper, Keegan Berghalter, all emailed me at Undead Max 1313 on Twitter. And a lot more in the past few weeks, so sorry if I didn't name you.

You ask enough, you know, you get sp get bumped up to the front of the suck line. And I ended up loving this one. It ended up being one of my favorite sucks. So let's get into it right after a quick few time sucker updates. Okay, but getting some great attention grabbing subject lines coming at me admin at timesockpodcast.com. I just wanted to share some of those with you, some of my faves. Recent standouts include, hey fucker, hear this. Another one, insert witty or dickish subject lines of this catch at your eye.

Nurse, whiskey, lardam, saw. All right, that was one. Hey, num nuts. I like it. Sassink, direct. Another one, even more succinct. Attention, dick sack. Why is dick sack so much funnier than nut sack?

And my reason favorite, this is the subject line. My girlfriend is farting chipotle, so I'm playing your podcast to drown it out. Fantastic. All of those cracked me up. A quick update from Richard T. Roberts about last week's clicky episode. When I was asked by James and Jimmy who came first, Greeks, the Romans.

I thought it was the Greeks, I wasn't sure. Richard cleared it up, he says, hello master sucker, been getting a lot of that. Too lately, I fucking love it. It's such a weird thing to call somebody. I have a time-zucker update for you. From everything that I've been reading, Ancient Greece did come before Ancient Rome. And so Ancient Greece started around 1100 BC. And taking a quick look myself, yep, Ancient Greece were definitely dicking around over there in southern

Europe before the Romans. Their timeline, you know, it's, who knows exactly how long they're over there, but they were definitely doing shit to hundreds of years. Couple centuries before Rome. So thank you, definitely doing shit hundreds of years, a couple centuries before Rome. So thank you Richard for that. Finally, a cool personal update on TimeSuck episode 20 insane assylum tales from TimeSuck or Lee White. He emailed me a little bit ago about a trip. He and his wife took to West Virginia three years ago

when they went on a tour of the asylum I spoke about at length in that episode, the Trans Alligany lunatic asylum in Weston, West Virginia. Here's an excerpt from Lee's message. She says, quote, One experience excited to be greatly. It might have made my pants darker. I was lining up a shot.

He's taken some pictures of a wheelchair against the peeling paint walls. There is a staircase about a foot behind me. My wife and the tour guide start talking about some noises coming from a room in front of us. As that is happening, I hear someone running up the stairs behind me. As the footsteps got closer, I felt air rush by me. Needless to say, I was startled. The guy'd exclaimed, what the hell was that?

I just said, fuck. It was about 18 years in that one, I like it. What made the rest of the tour even creepier was that a huge thunderstorm started outside shortly after. I got to see the room. We're Dean, the guy that had the bedpost shoved through his head was murdered. I mentioned that hip. So fun fact, the guys that killed him jumped on the bed multiple times before the leg post crushed Dean's skull. Oh my god. It's a bad way to go. Other than a haunted deal. I took away some other interesting facts. Let's do a top five. I love it. Number one, some divorces were hard to obtain, so husbands wanting to divorce would drop their

wives off at the asylum once admitted the court would allow the divorce. Oh, that's fucking brutal. Number two, many patients were able to wander the town of Weston. Nurses and orderlies would go out each evening and round up the wandering patients. What a weird place to live that would be. Just every afternoon, you just get a couple severely mentally ill people or people who just didn't want to get a divorce, wander through town. Number three, the town of Western uses the asylum grounds for many festivities and town functions.

Let me sweet just to have some weird pic nick or meeting to mental hospital. On number four, it's the largest stone building built in the Western hemisphere. Number five, ghost hunter will leave cigarettes and small items as gifts for certain paranormal things happening around them. That's awesome.

Ghost wants some smokes and bonus they offer overnight, multi-hour tours. You should visit, love in the show, keep being curious, take care, Lee. Well, thank you, Lee. I'm glad you had an exciting experience there. Not sure I'm gonna be visiting that place anytime soon Definitely won't be staying overnight. I talk a big game

About not believing in paranormal stuff, but I'm a fucking huge baby and I'll be terrified there What I will be doing right now is getting into that Mandela effect Thanks time suckers. I need a net. We all did So, the Mandela Effect. Collective False Memories, Proof of Parallel Dimensions and Alternate Realities, Proof that we're inside some sort of matrix for one we can't unplug from. Before we get into those possibilities, let's check out a few more examples of this phenomenon. One, Bernstein Bears, you, like me, are probably familiar with the Bernstein Bears.

I actually modeled illustrations for my parody book, Daddy Bear, three rabbits meet the real world off of this family of bears. Except their name isn't Bernstein. Like I've thought, I think my whole life. It's Baron Stain. Yeah, Baron Stain. B-E-R-E-N.

Stain, S-T-A-I-N. I'll say it again, Baron stain. B-E-R-E-N, stain, S-T-A-I-N. I'll say it again, baron stain. I had to dig up the YouTube video from the theme song from the animated kids TV show. From the 2003, 2004 PBS version, and country singer Amy Lee Walmac, even with her country twang, clearly says baron stain. So then I thought, well, maybe they changed it

from the original 1985 PBS version. Nope. No country twang on on that theme song. The cheesy 80s narrator clearly to my amazement says baron stain. Here's the Amy Lee Womack course. You'll find my bitches playing funny. The Baron State Bears. Alright, so she says Baron State. Now here is the 1985 original version. Baron State Bears. We are the Baron State Bears. Mama, mama, this is the brother.

We appreciate each other. If your mind is a little blown right now, I get it. It doesn't feel right to me either. It doesn't feel right at all. And we're not alone. Here are some YouTube comments from very upset Bernstein Bears fans. Listen to the Womack version.

Topmost popular comment just says, Bernstein. And then I watched every episode. All caps. The next comment comment just says, Bernstein, and then I watched every episode, all caps. The next comment I read says, also in all caps, I swear to the Lord, it was always Bernstein. Or how about also in all caps. I watched this as a child, it was my show, it was Bernstein. And my favorite is, it said Bernstein in the beginning.

That one's my favorite, because of the name of the YouTube channel that left this comment. It's Illuminati confirmed. The Illuminati confirmed. Looking for those Illuminati signs such as the Bernstein Baratheem song. First comment on the 1985 version is, nobody in the FN world said baron stain bears. It was always steen as in baron stain. The new earth is a damn lie.

I love new earth. I didn't know that's where we live And now and then another This one says this is scary me a lot. I could have sworn it was Bernstein And then my favorite comment exchange on that video donut dazzler says where did all you steam people come from when I was growing up with the 70s and 80s I only ever heard a pronounced stain. Not once that I ever hear anyone say, steam to which Justin Lode replies, this will sound crazy,

but we may have come from a parallel earth where it was in fact Bernstein for all of us. Not saying that's the reason for sure, but it would explain a lot of things. This isn't the only thing that's been altered for us either. And I don't get the feeling that Justin is kidding about believing he's from an alternate universe. And he's right. It does sound crazy, you know?

Because this whole Mandela effect stuff is crazy. Now, as much as the Bernstein, Bernstein controversy has set the internet on fire, nothing has spun more heads around regarding the Mandela effect, especially lately, than the 1990s Sinbad movie that was never made, that no one ever saw, but so many people think they did, Shazam.

Shazam, when I was recording last week's Caligula episode, I brought up the Mandela Effect of the Crime and Sports Podcast, Gohos Jimmy Wisman, when he asked what topic I was doing this week. And when I gave him the Shazam Sinbad example for Mandela Effect, he was positive, the movie was really, he's like, no, I saw clips from it. He's like, I just saw clips from it.

That was a real movie. And he did see some footage footage from a college humor.com, Sinbad collaboration for April Fool. So it was an April Fool's joke for any of you who saw that. I don't know, I missed the fact that it came out on April 1st, but they released a previously lost footage of this hidden genie movie. It's actually a great video.

They did a really good job of making it all retro and VHS-y. I mean, it's a little like a kind of adult swim over the top on that way, but it's a cool video. They nailed that look. So there's a variety of older videos offering clues to this reality. This movie, such as the allegedly real shazam movie poster. The comments on these videos are just as good as the Baroness team bearer's comments. Top comment from the truth always wins simply says I saw the F.E. movie. Another comment from Ashlerina HD is I used to have a huge crush on Sinbad as a kid and I watched all this stuff. He played a genie and he had on

purple pants and curled up slippers. It was a white boy who started the movie. I don't know who, but I remember a scene where he climbed to the boys window and the kid was making fun of Sinbad's clothes. He had a gold hoop, earring, and his pierced ear. And finally, Davey Ward, even more specific memories. I mean, this is very specific. He says, quote, I'm 34 years old and I remember going to the movie theater in the early 90s. This was one of the first movies I was allowed to watch by myself.

My brothers were with me at the theater, but wanted to see a different movie since they are 5 and six years older. I was also a big shack fan and remember when Kazam came out, thinking that's pretty lame to rip off a similar movie that was just released earlier, same basic plot and all. I'm still trying to wrap my head around

why these things are and why they would change, but I asked my mother if she remembered, I think you meant to say what, things are. I asked my mother if she remembered what my first movie I went to without her accompany me and she said was she said that genie movie with Sinbad that's why I let you go because this comedy wasn't vulgar. I said you sure it wasn't the genie movie which you kill on Neil and she said no you didn't think it was right that they tried to rip

off the same kind of movie and that one came out after Sinbad's. There is something to this but I don't think it's what we are thinking. Much more sinister than what we can even comprehend. I love that it has to go sinister. Anyway, that's my first comment after studying this scenario for over a year now. These two are positive. They saw the movie.

And I'm positive, I don't really like his mom. Because this comedy wasn't vulgar. Stop being a fucking post lady. Like, you can't hear some real shit. I just love that if the Illune Audi is out there, that's where they're gonna fuck with us on a Sinbad movie. Like of all the things they could mess with our minds about. A Sinbad movie from the 90s is their top priority.

Okay, so that reference to Shaq is a common explanation for the Shazam Mandela effect. Kazam is a 1996 Genie movie starring Shaq Chiquillo Neal, that bastard who totally got me with his flat earth joke a few weeks ago. He has a big hoop earring in that one. There is a white boy in it, no purple pants though. However, Sinbad did dress up like a genie and Genie like a tire when he hosted a marathon of Sinbad the Sailor movies, which are these old old movies I believe from the 30s,

old black ones, on TNT in 1994. Could that be the answer? Or is it more complicated than that? Well, Dr. Henry Rodiger, a professor at the Washington University Memory Lab, doesn't think so. He says, quote, lots of people remember detailed, but utterly false memories. In fact, we all have them. He says, I have published on what we named the social contagion of memory and what others call memory conformity. That may be at work here. Rotiger explains that frequently one person's report of a memory influences another and that that false memory can spread in this way.

He said, one person's memory infects another, you know, it kind of spreads like a virus. And it's clear that this contagion would be only exacerbated online, where an individual can be influenced by multiple people from around the world in an instant. The existence of the Shazam Reddit community therefore arguably helps a false memory to spread. And how did that Reddit community grow? Begin in 2009, an anonymous individual took to the question and answer website Yahoo Answers to pose its users a simple question. Do you remember that Sinbad movie they wrote? Wasn't there a movie in the early 90s

where Sinbad, the entertainer slash comedian played a genie, help it's driving me nuts. Now this is interesting to me, very interesting. At the time, nobody remembered the film. It took two years for somebody else to ask about it online. Reddit user MJGSimple wrote on the Reddit site, it's a conspiracy.

I swear this movie exists. Anyone have a copy or know where I can find proof. Reply to the post, we're skeptical. Claiming MJGSimple simply had a false memory. So as he priored to 2009, almost no one remembered Sinbad starring in Shazam. Now thousands upon thousands do, that first poster infected the rest of the redditors and now they're starting to like come around

And now people I hate you know obviously in the last you know six seven years have been claiming they've seen this movie for sure As I've already given examples of even though Sinbad himself has routinely denounced ever appearing in the movie Even more common than the Sinbad example is the Dubie brothers Mandela effect I'm sure you've heard of that one. Millions of people remember Grammy winning Multiplatin' Recording Artist, Vocalist, and Keyboardist Michael McDonald singing for a fictitious group called the Dubie Brothers. I mean, supposedly, you know, he's saying stuff like to the street taking it to the streets. And other nonsense like, what a fool believes he sees

was made as the power. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, to reason away. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, what seems to be. Sorry for brook of your drum there. OK, so that last one is an example of the Mandela effect. That is an example of how I get off for some reason on sneaking McDonald's earworms into your brain lately from time to time.

The Dubie brothers were in our so very real. Another possible explanation for the Mandel effect is what's known. I know that's only funny to me. I say, so stop. I'll stop with the McDonald's. It's what's known as false memory syndrome? The beginnings of false memory syndrome defined as a condition in which a person has an apparent recollection of an event that did not actually occur,

especially one of childhood sexual abuse that relation to people's hysteria. Freud's theory held that all children might fantasize about sexual relations with their parents, and it followed that a child's recollection of being sexually abused by a parent could be construed as fantasy. Even though Freud himself specifically pointed out on a number of occasions that members of childhood seduction sometimes did correspond to relevance the overwhelming tendency of the psychoanalytic profession throughout most of the 20th century has been to construe recollections of incest as fantasies. You're probably familiar with Freud's focus on incestuous thoughts. His edipus complex defined as, quote, the complex of emotions aroused and a young child, typically

around the age of four, by an unconscious sexual desire for the parent of the opposite sex and a wish to exclude the parent of the same sex. Now Freud put a lot of thought into the sexual families of children, sexual fantasies of children towards their parents. No one had a harder boner for their mom than Sigmund Freud. Little and on fact, Freud actually had this written on his tombstone, here lies a man who had the hardest of all hard boners for his mom. Now while later developments in psychology have downplayed the suspected incest fantasies and children, the notion that we can recall fantasies as

memories of real events has been backed up by numerous psychological studies over the years. And going further, research has proven that seemingly real memories can be both created and altered. One of the leading, if not the leading researcher in the area of false memories is Elizabeth Loftus, psychological scientist who studies, I used to love reading when I studied psychology. She's a sharp cookie, this Loftus, really like her a lot.

She doesn't even mention wanting to have sex to her dad one time and then even research. Weird. So Elizabeth Loftis born in 1944 is an American cognitive psychologist and expert on human memory. She got a PhD in mathematical psychology which sounds tough from Stanford back in 1970 and started her research into memory immediately upon graduation at the new school for social research in New York City, and she's done fascinating research ever since. Like the crash study. The crash study she did with John Palmer in 1974. A hundred and fifty participants were shown a video of a car crash and then randomly assigned

into three conditions. Those in the first condition were asked the same question as the first study using the verb smashed. The second group was asked the same question as the first study using the verb smashed. The second group was asked the same question as the first study replacing smashed with hit. The final group was not asked about the speed of the crash cars at all. Laptops and Palmer then asked the participants if they had seen any broken glass, knowing there was no broken glass in the video. The responses to this question had shown that the difference between whether broken glass

was recalled or not heavily depended on the verb used. A larger sum of participants in the smashed group declared there was broken glass was recalled or not heavily depended on the verb used. A larger sum of participants in the smashed group declared there was broken glass. 16 in the smashed group said they saw broken glass compared to only 7 for the hit group, compared to only 6 for the control group, so clearly the adjective affected what they thought they saw. It's the old power of suggestion, a studied and very real and powerful psychological phenomena. One of the reasons attorneys can't ask leading questions

during trials, because leading questions work, because of the power of suggestion. So why is it important to understand that these memories can be created criminal cases for one thing? Here are some examples of cases Elizabeth Loftus cites on her faculty page at the University of Washington regarding cases of false memory.

In 1986, Nadine Kuhl, a nurse's aide in Wisconsin, sought therapy from psychiatrists to help her cope with her reaction to a traumatic event experienced by her daughter. During therapy, the psychiatrist used hypnosis and other suggestive techniques to dig out buried memories of abuse that Kuhl herself, this is extremely popular in the 80s, by the way, these buried memories had allegedly experienced. In the process, cool became convinced that she had repressed memories of having been in a satanic cult of eating babies, of being raped, of having sex with animals, Jesus, of being forced to watch the murder

of her eight year old friend. She came to believe that she had more than 120 personalities, children, adults, angels, even a duck, all because cool was told she'd experienced severe childhood sexual and physical abuse. The psychiatrist also performed exorcisms on her, one of which lasted for five hours, and including the sprinkling of holy water and screams for Satan to leave cool's body. When cool finally realized that false memories had been planted, she sued the psychiatrist

for malpractice. In March 1997, for five weeks of trial, her case was settled out of court for $2.4 million. Now, I'm glad this lady was able to take this quack to court and get some money, but a little bit of personal responsibility. How fucking dumb was she for continuing to see a therapist who performs exorcisms, plural, multiple exorcisms? That's not part of normal therapy at all. I think one of the rules of therapy is to stop going if you're therapist ever says, hey, maybe we should try an exorcism. That's when you just stand up and you shake your head

and you sigh heavily and you walk out of the fucking room and you slam the door. Okay, so Nadine Cole is not the only patient to develop false memories as a result of questionable therapy. In Missouri in 1992, a church counselor helped Beth Rutherford to remember during therapy that her father, a clergyman, had regularly raped her between the ages of seven and 14, and that her mother sometimes helped him by holding her down. That's not traumatic at all, Jesus Christ. Under her therapist guidance, Rutherford developed memories of her father twice impregnating her and forcing to abort the fetus herself, forcing her to abort the fetus herself with the code hanger. The father had to resign from his post as a clergyman when the allegations were made public. Later, medical examination of the daughter revealed that even at the age of 22, still a virgin, a Hyman intact, never been pregnant.

The daughter then sued the therapist, received a million dollars settlement in 1996. How did she split that money with her dad? Geez, he's the one who everyone thinks is a fucking creep now. An allegation like that never goes away. Then there's the case of Steve Titus. A case Elizabeth refers to in a 2013 TED Talk titled How Reliable Is Your Memory. Great TED Talk, by the way. I love those. On October 12, 1980, by the way. I love this.

On October 12, 1980, a female hitchhiker was raped. Police described the rape as his 25-30 years old driving a royal blue car with temporary license plates and cloth seats and having a beard. The rape was reported to have taken place at 6.45 pm. The victim walked to a nearby house and after approximately 10 minutes of conversation called the police at 7.22 pm the retire prints found near the scene which matched that of a Michelin XYZ tire Which was standard on 1981 Honda Accord LX cars a model that was first sold in September 1980 The victim reported that there was a large brown folder in the car in the rapist war three p suit So she a lot of very specific memories Well, Seattle restaurant manager Steve Titus was pulled over and then arrested on his way

home from a romantic dinner with his fiance. So, you know, during the timeline, just described he was out to dinner with his fiance. He was 31 years old. He was later identified by the victim after police presented her photos of various suspects and she pointed at Stephen said, that one is the closest. That's what she said that one is the closest Like the rapist yet a beard. He had a new car a royal blue Chevrolet, a Chevette. So not the same car It had neither Michelin tires nor cloth seats The car did apparently have a large brown folder which tightest later claim was planted in the car by police I didn't have any suits

But during the trial when the prosecution called the rape victim to the stand, she now said, quote, I'm absolutely positive. That's the man. She remembered definitely without a doubt being raped by Steve Titus. Well, psychologist Elizabeth Loftus, she's living in the Northwest. She is familiar with it.

She hears about it. She argues that the trial that the victim had elicited a false memory of the attacker due to be a biased line-up presented by the police who used the power of suggestion to get her to remember this. Her perceptions had been changed throughout the process, going to court, which created this false memory. At trial, prosecution testimony was changed, and the evidence of innocence was explained away by prosecution experts and law enforcement officers. As a direct direct result Titus has wrongly convicted of raping the

first degree, a crime that carries with it a mandatory prison sentence. So now he's in prison. For a crime he didn't commit, he reaches out to investigative reporter Paul Henderson of the Seattle Times, Wallincar, serrated Titus' new attorney, Jeff Jones, whom Titus hires to pursue an appeal of his conviction, was able to convince the trial judge to grant a new trial based upon evidence developed by Henderson, arguing that Titus' trial attorney had ambushed by surprise testimony, which directly contradicted evidence contained in the port of Seattle police investigative reports subsequently as a result of good police work by a local municipal officer who had been

following the new articles in the case, a lead was developed to a new suspect. The lead was followed up by the King County Police Department who's investigation led to the arrest of Edward Lee King, aka Max Smith, who eventually confessed to the crime. Max Smith's serial rape is thought to have committed 50 rapes in that area alone. Titus was then, of course, set free. After less than a year in prison, however, his life was ruined for fucking ever. He lost his entire life savings with all the court costs. He lost his job. He couldn't get it back.

Couldn't get hired by another place. He became so consumed with bitterness and anger about the whole situation that his fiance left him. And then when he sued the Seattle court system, he ended up dying of a stress-related heart attack at the age of 35, all because of false memory. And imagine how the rape victim feels. She sent an innocent man to jail and ruined his life, all because she was victimized not once but twice.

She was victimized first by rapist Max Smith, and then she was victimized again by some shitty detectives doing some lazy fucking detective work. But these aren't the only people who've had their lives ruined by false memories. Alright, let's talk about Satan. Alright, let's talk about the devil. Let's talk about Biel's above, the Prince of Darkness, the fallen angel, Old Nick, the Tempter, the Master of Hell, Rush Limbaugh, Richard Simmons, let's talk about Martha Stewart. Okay, those last three nicknames were a stretch.

But it turns out Old Satan has a lot to do with the discussion of false memories. Have you ever read Michelle Remembers' an autobiographical account published in 1980 of one woman remembering years of ritual satanic abuses of child? Well, if not, don't. It sounds fucking terrible. Michelle Remembers' Chronicles author Lawrence Padsdars therapy in the late 1970s with his long-time patient, Michelle Smith. In 1973, Pazdars first started treating Smith as his private psychiatric practice in Victoria, British Columbia. In 1976, when Pazdars passed her, I fucking hate his name, P-A-Z-D-E-R.

I'm sorry if your last name is Pazdars, but I just, I don't like it, the way it rolls out the tongue. We treated Smith for depression, related to her having had a miscarriage. Smith had a session where she screamed for 25 minutes non-stop. Sounds very dramatic. And eventually started speaking in the voice of a five-year-old. Over the next 14 months, Pazdor spent over 600 hours using hypnosis to help Smith recover

alleged memories of satanic ritual abuse that occurred when she was five in 1954 and 1955 at the hands of her mother, Virginia Probe, and others all of whom Smith said were members of his Satanic cult in Victoria. So pastor said this Smith was abused by the Church of Saint. She states as a worldwide organization predating the Christian Church. The first alleged ritual attended by Smith took place in 1954 when she was five years old. And the final one document in the book was an 81 day ritual, 81 continuous days in 1955, that someone that devil himself and involved the intervention of Jesus, the Virgin Mary,

and Michael the Archangel, who removed the scars received by Smith throughout the year of abuse and removed memories of the events until the time was right. That's what God does. He doesn't prevent the abuse from happening. He just comes in and is like, fuck, okay, she's 81 days, that's enough, that is enough. I'm gonna make this right. I'm not gonna fucking change the abuse,

but I'm gonna make the memories go away for a little while because that all makes sense. During the rights, Smith was allegedly tortured, locked in cages, sexually assaulted, forced to take part in various rituals. She witnessed several murders rubbed with the blood and body parts of various murdered babies, always murdered babies.

After Smith had seemingly recovered her memories, she and Pasadur consulted with various church authorities eventually traveling to the Vatican itself. Sounds a little crazy, right? Almost too crazy to be true, that's because it is. The book was completely discredited, almost immediately on publication with anyone with fucking half a discerning eye.

Soon after the book's publication, Pastor was forced to withdraw his assertion that it was a church of Satan that abused Smith when Anton Levei, who founded the organization 1966, threatened to sue for libel. So he's like, no, okay, just kidding. As pointed out by Smith's father in a 1980 interview, the book failed to make any mention of Smith's two sisters, Cheryl and Tursha, or that pastor and Smith both Catholics had divorced their spouses and married each other. Just kind of

skips over those parts. You know, where was it fucking two sisters during all this 81-day abuse? The Daily Mail, a UK journalist, journalism publication, did an independent investigation in 1990 and found that other than Pastor and Smith, everyone else around them described the events, Michelle remembers as, quote, the hysterical ravings of an uncontrolled imagination. Former Canadian detective Constable Charles Ennis, also an investigative journalist, an author pointed out further consist, inconsistencies in 2002. He noted that it seemed highly unlikely that a sophisticated cult that had secretly existed for generations, one that connected

dots actually goes all the way back to pre-Christianity, existed, especially given that some of them had supposedly cut off one of their middle fingers in some sort of black mass ritual. That was part of the book too, these people had, they would cut off the part of their middle finger in some fucking crazy ritual. So how to know and in the town noticed that all these prominent fucking citizens are missing part of their mental finger. And how could the cult hold elaborate satanic rituals in the Ross Bay cemetery, a notice given that Smith claims she was screaming and giving that the Ross Bay cemetery is surrounded

on three sides by fucking neighborhood. Well, all these neighbors just didn't notice this 81 day ritual taking place over there. Also, a look into Smith's elementary school records found no indication of her being absent from school or missing any lengthy period of time, especially 81 days. Just a circle nonsense. Some fucking quack of a therapist who should have been

discredited for even attempting to publish his horse shit in the first place, had the fucking hots for one of his patients. He has an affair with her. They go on to be together for the rest of their lives and a fair that ended both their marriages. Another reason to never let him counsel again by the way, huge no-no in the counsel world, fucking your patients. He feeds and empowers this emotionally vulnerable woman's imagination. I'm guessing with leading questions, Pad Soul himself had recently returned from Africa before meeting her, where he'd heard rumors of some say tannic cannibalistic cult, right? Because everybody in the jungle is a fucking cannibal.

According to these fucking idiots, he had the devil on his brain, non-tent on his brain, he feeds that narrative to this person with with mommy and daddy issues. Well, unfortunately for a lot of other people we're going to talk about in a second, the book becomes a publishing success despite being garbage. It earned Pazdurin Smith, because it's so sensational. A $100,000 hardcovered advance, $242,000 for paperback rights. It earned as a royalties, a big promotional tour, almost got him a movie deal.

It's promoted uncritically as probable fact and an untold number of media publications. In 1989, Pazdurin Smith even appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show. Oprah presenting their claims as fucking fact that an untold number of media publications. In 1989, Padsar and Smith even appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show. Oprah presenting their claims as fucking fact. Padsar becomes an expert, excuse me, in the 1980s, Satanic hysteria craze that his own book most likely created how fucked up was at. He creates hysteria and then becomes an expert on that hysteria as if it's fact. That shit had even appeared on the first major news report on Satanism broadcast on May 16th,

9th and 95 by ABC's 2020. So this book becomes woven into the zeitgeist. The zeitgeist being defined, you know, that defining spirit or mood of a particular period of history. It's embedded in the cultural subconscious of Christian Americans. It's literally their worst fear. You know, Satan worshipers molesting and or killing their kids. Also, in the early 1980s, new mandatory reporting laws concerning child abuse are implemented, and because of this, there is a large increase in child protection investigations in America, Britain, other developed countries, along with a heightened public awareness of child abuse.

And before social workers understood the power of false memory syndrome, social workers use leading and coercive interviewing techniques when talking to the alleged children of abuse. I think you see where this is going. Alright, they're making kids who were never abused, believe they were abused, and needlessly, excuse me, needlessly destroying families. And then on top of making kids believe they were molested when they weren't, they start making kids believe that they were abused by various satanic cults. Around this time, childhood memories of similar satanic abuse

begins to appear in the psychotherapy session of adults all over the fucking place. There's more talk of satanic abuse on TV. Remember what we talked about the paranormal stuff in the alien episodes? Where it's like, you know, one little UFO side and leads to a whole bunch of them? This is the exact same shit.

Once a tanic story leads to a fucking thousand satanic stories. You know, and everybody starts remembering being Satanically abused as kids. I guess they just needed fucking attention or something. And this leads to one of the worst examples of people's lives being ruined. The McMartin preschool trial. This is so fucking sad.

So this is the saddest. In 1983, accusations against the McMartin preschool of family-ran daycare in Manhattan Beach, California, which is a beautiful little South Bay fucking community, but you know an LA. It's so peaceful and pretty there. I love my head and beach. It would become the most expensive criminal trial in US history for the time. It's ended up costing over $15 million. It would last all the way till 1990, from 83 to 1990, when all the charges are finally dropped after numerous lives are permanently fucking ruined. 1983, Judy Johnson, mother of one of the men had in Beach, California, preschools, young students,

reports to police that her son had been sotomized by her estranged husband and by McMartin teacher Ray Bucky. That is a heavy accusation, man. Jesus. Ray Bucky was the grandson of school founder Virginia McMarton and son of administrator Peggy Martin Bucky. Well, Johnson's belief that her son had been abused began, and her son had painful bowel movements, and what happened next is very disputed. Still disputed. Some sources state that at the time, Johnson's son denied her suggestion that his preschool teachers had molested him. Based on what we're going to find out about her in a second, I'm guessing strong, that's the case that he was like, what are you talking about?

Others say he confirmed the abuse. I don't think he confirmed it. I think he was pressured by his mom and you're going to see why in a little bit. In addition, Johnson also made several more accusations. Check these out. Including the people of the Daker has sexual encounters with animals that Peggy drilled a child under the arms that satanic rituals were performed and this is the best one that Ray flew around in the air. He just, he fucking flew around.

You hear what I'm saying? He flew. He levitated. Shortly after making these accusations, Johnson was diagnosed with and hospitalized for acute paranoid schizophrenia. Of fucking, of course she was. Of course she was. And she's talking about people flying around at the Satanic daycare. In 1986, she was found dead in her home from complications of chronic alcoholism before the preliminary hearing fucking concluded. How the fuck is the trial not over at this point? She was a drunk schizophrenic. Are you kidding me? If she would have just said her son had been satimized, okay, that's a serious allegation.

Right? You gotta look into that. But when she added that the sodomite levitated around the room, lifted by the power of the devil himself, that's when you wink at one of the other detectives and say, okay, man, yeah, yeah, no, we're gonna look right into that. Yep, we're gonna get to the bottom of all this. And then you have her scored it out of the room and you call child protective services and you

have her kids taken away because she's a fucking maniac. She's a dangerous maniac. No, instead, the investigation, the expanded investigation continues. Eventually, 360 kids claim to be abused after being interviewed by a horrible therapist who used highly suggestive techniques to question these kids. Again, the power of suggestion creates false memories. All right, the allegations are so over the top, it's depressing to think that the US government spent what, $15 million on this horse shit. In addition to having been sexually abused, the kids claim they saw witches fly around.

How does this go to trial? They were transported to and from the rituals in a hot air balloon. Like what? This is a very popular area. How does no one notice the fucking hot air balloon molestation train? They were taken through secret underground tunnels,

starting in the daycare to be fucking tortured and molested when shown a series of photographs by the defendant's lawyers, one child identified one of the culprits, it's actor Chuck Norris. He's one of the satanic abuses. How does that not end the trial? You know, let me get this straight. You were taken to a state and it

layer uh... via an underground tunnel to start in the day care uh... detect detectives find uh... any evidence of a giant tunnel when they thoroughly search the care uh... no they didn't uh... and and where was chuck norris uh... when these crimes allegedly occurred oh he was he was filming both lex infomercials with christie brinkley uh... ok uh... case dismissed and none of youeads are ever allowed to accuse anyone of anything,

ever again, until the day you easily manipulated fucking morons died. What the fuck was this superstitious bullshit? Why was it entertaining the first, but witches, satanic rituals, floating around in a room? Which we go to, I wish we'd have a giant meeting where everyone in the entire nation meets out in the Midwest, send to the country, maybe somewhere in Nebraska, all right, somewhere about a county in Nebraska, which is room for everybody. And you know, I would just love to go to a podium and be like, uh, anyone who believes in witches, demonic possessions, a tannic child molestation cults, the conjure of the actual devil, uh, flat earth, lizard illuminati, or any number of other secret or paranormal

groups pulling all the strings of society, please raise your hands. Okay, you superstitious fuxx, you stay right here in the cornfields where you belong. The rest of us, we're going to head back to our rational lives and keep evolution moving forward. All right, more allegations. There was claims of orgies at car washes. Oh my god, and airports, right, because no one would notice that. Oh man, reports of children being flushed

down to children being flushed down toilets to secret rooms. We what's fucking what cartoons are you watching? Or you get these ideas? Reflushing, refreshing kids down secret toilets. How much money these daycare people have to come up with the secret toilet trap door? Uh, and then and then they're cleaned up and then they're presented back to their parents. They flush them down, fucking secret toilet to a torture room where a guy floats around in the state and costume and molest them. And then they're like, then they put their clothes back on and they're like, all right, let's get back to your parents.

Some interviewed kids talk to a game called Naked Movie Star, suggesting they were forcibly photographed nude. Then during the trial testimony from the kids, states that the Naked Movie Star game was actually a rhyming taunt used to tease other children. What you say is what you are, you're a naked movie star game was actually a rhyming taunt used to tease other children. What you say is what you are, you're a naked movie star. Fucking children's rhyme gets by these overly active imaginations transformed in some weird child pornography thing. Oh my god.

Despite all this, despite all the obvious signs, this case should be dismissed, despite cases like this, forever ruining any faith I have in our fucking government. This dog and pony show actually goes to trial on March 22nd, 1974, Virginia McMarton, Peggy McMarton, Bucky Ray Bucky, Ray sister Peggy and Bucky and teachers, Mary Ann Jackson, Betty Ray Dorr, and Babette Spittler, all these fucking fine people who probably just love kids

to death, they want to dedicate their lives to helping little kids are charged with 115 counts of child abuse, later expanded to 321 counts of abuse involving 48 kids, daycare providers. These allegations alone have destroyed their careers forever. The small business has been irrevocably damaged, shutters at stores, of course it does, lives are over before the trial even begins. Well then cut to 1990, Ray Bucket is the last defendant to be acquitted. When he's

finally released and all the charges are dropped, he spent over five years in prison as a suspected satanic pedophile. Right years later, kids suspected of being abused, confessed his adults, they were strongly pressured to go along with his Hannah-Cabuse narrative. Why did the narrative exist? A lot of people think that book Michelle remembers is behind it. And of course, good old fashion, religious paranoia, over evil doers. They're out to fuck her kids, right? They want to fly around the broomsticks, drink goat's blood, bring the devil into the world so he can, you know, not do anything noteworthy. Why is that always that, by the way? Why can people supposedly conjure up the devil himself, but then once he gets here, you never hear about a bunch of people seeing him. He's a fucking devil. Why does he like sneakily, satamize like a few kids, or like eat a baby?

Why doesn't he do something, you know? Like just unbelievably evil. Why doesn't he like, satamize an entire town to death? You know, just burn a fucking city. He's a prince of fucking darkness. But all he does is make occasional cameos, you know? Maybe have sex with a virgin.

You know, come on, dude. Menally, the Linkwood Petty criminals have wrapped you tough with you to do. Getally, the Linkwood petty criminals have her app. She's tough with you, dude. Get some fucking nut Satan or stop climbing out of hell. Trial finally over, and elderly daycare providers, the elderly daycare providers, because most of the people charge were elderly, I think, other than Ray.

They all died within a few years. Probably died of shame and despair and heartbreak. Their story is so goddamn sad. Their beloved preschools door shutter forever. Like I said, all over the country, other daycare providers, he gets even worse. It spreads. Other daycare providers to make sure they're not, you know, in some weird Salem witch trial. Now they're not going to hug or touch their touch the kids there. Even though almost all child experts say this contact is very beneficial to kids out of

a fear that their actions may be interpreted as signs of abuse. Many daycare centers had to close your doors altogether because insurance companies after this are scared of molestation lawsuits and they raise the liability insurance rates. Well, despite the outcome of this and other trials, despite the fact that no widespread satanic abuse ring has literally ever been found, never once. More lives are ruined. Dan and Frances Killer, who ran a daycare center from their Oak Hill home in Austin, Texas, are sentenced to 48 years in prison in 1992. Charges were the couple had dismembered infants,

abused the children in their care, even using those children to carry the bones of corpses exhumed from a local cemetery, making the children drink Kool-Aid mixed with human blood. They're convicted. They're convicted of this nonsense. You know, it based on the fantastical testimony of coerced children, tenuous circumstantial physical evidence presented by Dr. Michael Mow, an emergency room physician who treated one of the girls, colors or alleged she had abused. Mow later recanted his testimony.

Okay, why did he fucking give it the first place? The colors are finally released in 2013 after serving more than 20 years in prison, 20 years in fucking prison. Two lives completely not really destroyed because some hysterical moron became convinced you were a. Satanus B. Part of a satanic cult and C. User satanic cult to richly abuse children. There is a church of Satan and guess what? They don't fuck with kids. They're not prancing around in devil horns and pitchforks, pitchforks dying to molest your precious little babies. No they're basically people who think Christianity is ridiculous that there is no God and that this life should be worshipped. There are atheists who like to play dress up and have rituals. Rituals that don't require human sacrifice, that's too boring. I guess for idiotic fundamentalists.

I fucking hate religious fundamentalists, just of all kinds. I would literally rather have my kids grow to be heroin junkies than to be religious fundamentalists. Heroin, way less addictive, in my opinion, than superstitious stupidity. Oh, man. More things change, man. Okay. And still, Satanic molestation rings are feared. Despite not, despite not a shit ever being true.

November 2014 article in the UK's Guardian opens with, quote, exclusive, charities claimed that the Satanic abuse of children is rife. Scream the headline in the express on Sunday earlier this month. The piece reports that two charities, Kilmernock, based, break the silence and Dundee based Izzy's promise believes Satanic abuse to be rife and Scotland and that it has been for decades. They say children are forced to take part in say, Tannic rituals involving the sacrifice of babies

and the making of snuff movies. Oh, they really, up the ante with the snuff movies there. According to Kate Short of Break the Silence, victims are so brainwashed, they don't dare speak out. Similarly, Joseph Lombassi, project coordinated with Izzy's promised states that, quote, people who talk to us are relating their experiences from when they were maybe just eight, nine, or 10.

Kids, really. In other words, it appears highly likely that many of these claims are based upon recovered memories. And this isn't a new phenomenon in the UK either. March 13, 1990, headline of the Daily Mirror reads, kids forced into Satan or Jesus. Now, I guess that sells some papers, doesn't it? The National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children

had reported that Satanic abuse was widespread in the UK. Their office should be fucking closed down. Fucking idiots. It was alleged that these satanic orgies, children, were made to eat human body parts, had to drink blood and urine. Animals and babies were sacrificed. Always fucking sacrifice in babies.

They can't get enough of that. It was always so preposterously over the top, man. Why do they always go so extreme? And they ate babies, and they made babies eat other babies, and then some of the babies grew horns and locked arms and danced an evil jig that raised bills above from the boughs of hell where he shitted the baby's mouth, and then he made that baby have a demon baby,

and then he ate the baby with a side of orphan liver and washed it down with a goblet of baby nuns blood. What the hell? An investigation ensued and guess what? Nothing, of course nothing, it's always nothing. Investigations have produced no evidence, no bodies, no bones, no blood stains, nothing. This negative conclusion was echoed four years later

by Jean Lafontaine, Emeritus Professor of Anth of anthropology at the London School of Economics. Her official inquiry into claims of Satanic abuse had investigated 84 alleged cases in the UK between 87 and 92. Nothing. Nothing for many of those. No evidence. Why no evidence? Because mysterious Satanic occult feature in respected community leaders, hidden in dark cloaks, hidden and dark cloaks, sacrificing babies and fucking kids are no more real than shapeshifting space lizards, living in tunnels beneath this and mating with world leaders to control the human race.

It's paranoid, delusional, sensationalistic, imaginative, dangerous nonsense. And I think if you make claims of this nature against somebody and it turns out they did nothing wrong, you, the hysterical fuckface who made the claims should go to prison for as long as the people who lied were going to be sensed, right? Like if you make up and somebody that you made up some claims about was gonna end up going to prison for 20 years, I found guilty, and it was all bullshit. You go to prison for 20 years.

Lives are ruined over this nonsense. Last note on that, no British nut film was ever discovered by authorities, ever. So is the Mandela effect some type of widespread version of this obviously very real phenomena of false memory syndrome? Well, believers in a paranormal explanation, they don't think so.

They say for one thing that the believers are spread all over the world, they don't know each other. They don't work or go to the same daycare together. They're not part of the same trial. They're not coarsed by the same prosecutors. Prosecutors, prosecutors. That's a weird. Prosecutors sounds like a weird website

for like single, like, like, single 40 something with female prosecutors. Prosecutors.com. It just be like a bunch of women just trying to try and too hard to look sexy on like stairways and stuff. They make good money, but they just can't find a man. I don't know why all that just came up with my head. But anyway, excuse me. Yeah, none of this has anything to do with the devil. So if it isn't false memory syndrome, how could people from all over the world in some cases all incorrectly remember the

same thing in the same way. Okay, actually stopped recording for a second there because I literally just set up this fucking studio. You heard me at the beginning, so proud of this. I'm one step away from the final evolution this podcast from when I have my own studio and now I want it so goddamn bad because I set all this shit up in my house and then I sort of get like Murphy's Law

Giant fucking truck next door giant fucking truck with the beep beep beep backing up my neighbor's roof Is she's gonna start roofing like right now mother fucker man Fucking so yeah, I can't fucking can't win trying to record this is why I got to keep moving the suck forward, man. This is why I gotta get sponsors so I can get a goddamn studio in a fucking quiet place and not be bothered with this nonsense. It makes me so annoying. All right, so distracting.

So sorry if you hear some beeps. I was gonna wait it out, but apparently they're gonna be there all fucking goddamn day. Fucking, ah, it's probably, you know who it is? Satanists. It's Satanic. They hurt the fucking felt in the universe that I was, you know who it is, Satanists. It's Satanic, they hurt, they fucking felt in the universe

that I was, you know, or no, actually, wait, I was kinda defending them in a weird way. No, it's the people who believe in the Satanic ritual cult, they're like, yeah, you're gonna talk about it, well, we're gonna have fucking hire the biggest truck that you've ever seen, and we're gonna back it up into your neighbor's driveway over and over again,

because we're fucking morons, who apparently this is their first day on the job the first time they've ever back to truck up. All right, sorry for all that. Parallel universe hypothesis. All right, this brings us, let's talk about that. Alternate reality is the explanation for Mandela effect provided by Fiona Broome, Koiner of the term and host of the website MandelaEffect.com.

Now Fiona says that, quote, many of us speculate that parallel realities exist and we've been them, Koiner of the Term and a host of the website, MandelaEffect.com. Now Fiona says that, quote, many of us speculate that parallel realities exist and we've been sliding between them without realizing it. Wonder how many she means by many. Like many is in her and nine other crazy friends who play in an ordinent amount of World of Warcraft and consciously budget for incense or like thousands. Anyway, she says that so far the two leading theories are that we're quote, sliding between an ordinent amount of world of warcraft and consciously budget for incense or like thousands. Anyway, she says that so far the two leading theories are that were, quote, sliding between parallel or similar realities or that were visiting holodex.

And maybe in one right now that have some glitches. So let's take a look at these two theories of fionus. First off with a sliding one, she says, when I talk about parallel realities and sliders, I often refer to the Sliders TV series. It aired from 1995 through 2000 and was an innovator in presenting alternate history themes. And then she provides more info about the show. Sliders is an American science fiction television series. It was broadcast for five seasons, beginning in 1995 and in 2000. The series follows a group of travelers as they wormhole to slide between different parallel universes. And then she opens it up with some common boards. Are you fucking kidding me Fiona? One of your theories is based

entirely entirely on a little known sci-fi 90s American TV show. That's like basing belief in extraterrestrial international conspiracies against a human race entirely on the ex files. It's not a documentary you moron. It's a made-up TV show. All right, let's see for next theory is any better. Please God, let it be better. The holodeck theory is based a little on the teachings of somewhat legitimate scientists named Fred Allen Wolf

who refers to himself as Dr. Quantum. I say somewhat because what kind of scientist refers to himself as Dr. Quantum? I would never see a dentist who refers to himself as Dr. Molar or Dr. Perley Whites or Dr. Overbite. And I don't trust a scientist who refers to himself as Dr. Quantum. Anyway, this theory of theirs largely based on, and the term holodeck itself comes from, star-tract the next generation. Yep, another American TV show that ran in the 90s. And yes, I know it started in the 80s, you fucking trekkie lunatics. It ran from 87 to 94.

Are you kidding me? If Fiona was doing this as a satire, she'd be comedic genius, but she's serious. Well on Star Trek the next generation, a futuristic TV show that also predicts will all dress like ass clowns wearing giant spandex-based onesies, the holodeck is depicted as an enclosed room in which objects and people are simulated by a combination of transported matter, replicated matter, tractor beams, and shaped force fields onto which holographic images are projected. Basically, it's virtual reality combined with artificial intelligence. A place you go and interact with computer-simulated people and objects that behave and feel as

they wouldn't live. Fiona makes no effort to explain what the fuck is anything has to do with the Mandela effect. I assume she feels that there could be numerous simulations going and we're stuck in one of them. After referencing Dr. Quantum and Star Trek, she opened up to comment boards again. When she moderates, leaving wisdom nuggets, such as quote, when the timeline has changed, it appears that it becomes a different timeline. That is, we don't necessarily need to worry about a blunder during time travel that can completely alter our history. Instead, that blunder would create a different timeline,

leaving the original one intact and tacked. If I can, apparently, she's working on another theory, she'll be, she'll be using, you know, based on quantum leap. Another 90s American sci-fi show, which is, which is great, by the way, I always love quantum leap. So that's Fiona Stotz. And when you go to her bio at FionaBroom.com, she has two websites at least. Fiona herself describes herself as,

Fiona Broom is an author and researcher. Studying topics related to ghosts, fairies, and alternate history, also known as the Mandela effect. Yep, you heard that right, fairies. I think that damages her credibility a little bit. She got, we got Dr. Quantum, and we got a fairy researcher. If you'd like to read one of her books because you feel like you've been a bad person and

you'd punish yourself, you can pick up a copy of ghosts, what they are, and what they aren't. Or you can get a copy of a beginner's guide to hunting and haunted cemeteries. It just came out last year. Apparently 2009's ghost hunting and haunted cemeteries, It just came out last year. Apparently 2009's ghost hunting and haunted cemeteries, a how-to guide was two advanced for some cemetery lurkers. And out of the goodness of her heart, she wrote a beginner's guide for those not ready for the advanced techniques

of hiding behind tombstones or buying a Ouija board of targets or dressing all in black and walking around at midnight with only a candle to light your way to the spirit world like a silly asshole. No books on fairies yet. Guess you still wrap up a research. Find it in the right 90s TV show to reference.

Probably deep into the first few seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer right now. Okay, so if the answer is parallel universe slash alternate realities, someone not named Fiona Broome is going to crack that case. I'm going to crack that case. I'm going to crack that nut. All right. Another theory jumps off from the Holodeck theory, and it's 2003, it's A2003, academic article published by Oxford philosopher Nick Bostrom, who did not base his research on Star Trek or any other TV show, strangely enough. Nick proposes that, and you may have to rewind and listen to this again, because it's going

to be heavy. This is what scared me off Mandela Effect from the first time, stuff like this. Okay, this is what he says. He says, quote, at least one of the following propositions is true. One, the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a post-human stage. Two, any post-human civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history or variations thereof. 3.

We are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows that the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become post-humans who run ancestors simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation. So what I gather from that is that he believes human consciousness will eventually be able to be placed within an organic matter, i.e. a computer. Think of those Westworld robots. And then at some point, once humanity has transferred this conscious, kind of like the 1992

sci-fi movie The Lawnmore Man, one of my favorites in high school, you know, with all this nut, what's with all this 90 sci-fi stuff, by the way? Anyway, at some point, after in the machine, organic humans will eventually go extinct, leaving our tech behind, only our tech, by the way, the fucking, the fucking, as if this stuff isn't heavy enough, I have to record this stuff before going on a plane,

so I have to do it now. The fuck, the, the, the suck the neighbors, they're like, can we, can we get the truck louder? Can we get, can we get three trucks over here right now? Can we get three trucks to work on the roof? Do you have an air compressor? Do you have 10 air compressors that we can run? Can we surround the neighbor's house

with air compressors and loud trucks? This fucking assholes. Pff, pff, pff, pff, pff, pff, pff, pff, pff, pff, pff, we're probably gonna have a, a screaming contest, but let's have a screaming contest right now. That'd be fun from the neighborhood. Okay. So anyway, at some point, after we're in the machine, organic humans will eventually go extinct,

leaving only our tech behind. A tech that will, as he says, not only be interested in, not likely, excuse me, be interested in running holodeck-like simulations on humans, who humans used to be, but if they do for some reason choose to run these simulations, we're probably living in one of them. It's heavy stuff, man. And basically, Mandela effect believers who point to this explanation believe that essentially Mandela effects are glitches in the simulation. They're these glitches that kind of prove that we are in a simulation.

So Nica elaborates. He says, quote, let us suppose for a moment that these predictions are correct. One thing that later generations might do with their super powerful computers is run detailed simulations of their forebears, or of people like their forebears, because their computers would be so powerful, they could run a great many such simulations, suppose that these simulated people are conscious. As they would be, if the simulations were sufficiently fine-grained, and if a certain quite widely accepted position in the philosophy

of mind is correct, then it could be the case that the vast majority of minds, like ours, do not belong to the original race, but rather to people simulated by the advanced descendants of an original race. Wow! Thinking about all this shit literally makes my head hurt. But I'm trying to follow it.

Maybe I'm reading into things, but I think he's saying something like the Mendel Effect could actually prove that we were living in the simulation, like I said before. If a parent glitches, start to show up in the game, so to speak, then that could prove the existence of the game. And if there is a game, then the game is being run by post-humans. Okay. Now I love sci-fi. I like where his letters mind go, and his craze, this sounds.

All accepted, this could be a reality. But obviously, it's a very remote possibility. I mean, sure, we could be living in some futuristic star trek like Holodeck and Nimrod, the god I invented in the Scientology episode. Some creator of the universe who also happens to be a giant space Sasquatch, size of a galaxy with the head of a chubacobra

who rides a black unicorn with flaming suns for eyes and demands I stomped the skull of cockroach spangles once a month to prove obedience. So I'm worthy of living in his alpha omega ball sack. That could also be true. I mean, why not? Why not? I mean anything's possible. I guess if you can't just prove it somehow Now admittedly the post-human computer simulation possibility a little more thought out the Nimrod But you get you get the point. I got to say though Nick does give if nothing else some really cool food for thought Like this he says a common assumption in the philosophy of mind is that of the substrate

independence. The idea is that mental states can supervine on any of a broad class of physical substrates, provided a system implements the right sort of computational structures and processes. It can be associated with conscious experiences. It's not an essential property of consciousness that it is implemented on a carbon-based biological neural network inside a cranium. Silicon-based processors inside a computer could, in principle, do the trick as well.

Was a kid I used to dream of being immortal. Not some mythical or religious sense, but like it is sci-fi sense. Kind of like how Vader had his life prolonged by basically becoming a cyborg. You know. I imagine only being a brain eventually, like a brain attached to some robotic body. The body wears out, you just get a new one. Next argument here is much more sophisticated version of that, I feel like. What if tech could advance us to the point that the human mind can be totally duplicated precisely, true human consciousness

with emotions, morality, quirks, zires, pain, pleasure, wants, needs can be electronically replicated in full. It seems impossible, but 500 years ago, so did tiny and possibly powerful phone computers that give you access to all the world's information you can hold in your hand. What wizardry can we have 500 years from now? Well, Nick isn't the only one who allows for the possibility of currently living in some futurist to computer simulation. Neil deGrasse, Jr. High Tyson, talked Neil deGrasse Tyson, talked about this possibility last spring

at the annual Isaac Asimov Memorial debate at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, where researchers pondered the notion that if you, me and every person in thing in the cosmos were actually characters in some giant computer game, we wouldn't know it. Moderator Neil deGrasse Tyson, director of the museum's Hayden Planetarium, put the odds at 50-50 that our entire existence is a program on someone else's hard drive.

He says, quote, I think the likelihood may be very high. He noted the gap between human and chimpanzee intelligence, despite the fact that we share more than 98% of our DNA. Somewhere out there could be a being whose intelligence is that much greater than our own. He says quote, we would be drooling, blithering idiots in their presence. If that's the case, it's easy for me to imagine that everything in our lives is just a creation of some other entity for their entertainment. Okay.

So maybe, again, maybe. So what the fuck is going on with Mandela Effect? Is there a decent explanation out there? I mean, honestly, after doing lots of digging, the best I found after scouring so many articles comes from Caitlin Amatt, a doctoral candidate at Neuroscience in the University of California at Los Angeles who wrote an article for aion.com,

A-E-O-N, or dot-co, excuse me, aion.co, a super cool nonprofit website dedicated to sharing information on philosophy, science, psychology, etc., kind of like vice for academia. Well, Caitlin shares the results of an interesting study done on the phenomenon of shared memory. It's a study about Alexander Hamilton. She says at some point in their education, most Americans learned that Alexander Hamilton

was a founding father, but not a US president. However, when a study on false memory investigated, who most Americans identify as US presidents, the subjects were more likely to incorrectly select Hamilton but not select several actual former presidents. This is likely to be because because neurons encoding information about Hamilton were frequently activated at the same time as neurons encoding information about former presidents

because neurons that fire together wire together as the fucking nerdiest phrase ever but I love it a can fire together wire together she someone has a t-shirt someone with the fucking poor eyesight and a small ectomorph body is wearing neurons that fire together wire together t-shirt a connection between past presidents and Hamilton could gradually become strong enough that you would incorrectly remember Hamilton as the former president himself. This makes a lot of sense to me.

I know I have believed that Alexander Hamilton was a US president at various points in my life. Actually, I found to be honest myself, I think right before doing this research, I thought Alexander Hamilton was one of our presidents. He, I did think that. It makes sense to me because I thought that, you know, that I thought that because I learned about Alexander Hamilton

when I was learning about George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, all those guys doing the same shit as Hamilton was. I think I used to think Ben had been friends with the president too, the same reasons. Now check out how Caitlin breaks down why so many people might remember seeing Sinbad, the Genie movie, Shazam, that never existed.

She says, twin films with similar concepts being released around the same time were common in the 1990s. Sinbad had a different movie out the same year, called First Kid, which like Kazam, involves the hero coming to the aid of a wayward boy. And Sinbad had also previously released House Guest 1995. The poster for which has an image of his head coming out of a mailbox, perhaps abstractly resembling a genie emerging from a lamp. Sinbad is an Arabic name. The story of Sinbad the Sailor is often associated with encounters with gypsies.

Sinbad's bald head and goatee resemble a typical genie portrayed in the media. Sinbad also dressed up like a genie for a movie marathon he hosted the 90s which almost certainly contributed to the memory of Sinbad playing a genie. Besides, similar associations lane the groundwork for a false memory to form the other main factors in this instance are con-fabulation and suggestibility. So she explains that if Shazam never existed,

how does he have such a detailed memory of the movie? Talking about this redditor. This is most likely an instance of confabulation, where the brain's attempt to fill in missing memory, a gap, by adding fabricated facts and experiences. Unlike line, confabulation is not intended to deceive, and the person confabulating fully believes that the remembered details are real. Confabulation is associated with a wide array of neurological disorders, including stroke, brain injury, Alzheimer's, Krasakos syndrome, epilepsy, schizophrenia, but it can also happen in healthy subjects, as anyone with a memory of President Hamilton can attest. In instances of confabulation,

healthy people increase with age and are thought to be due to age-related changes in the medical medial, temporal lobe, including the hippocampus and the prefrontal cortex. These brain regions are important for memory encoding and retrieval and FMRI studies over the past decade suggests the decreased function in these regions under Lyce false memory. In a third force, driving the Mandela effect to suggestibility, the tendency to believe would other suggest to be true. When misinformation is introduced, it can actually compromise the fidelity of an existing memory. This is exactly why in a court of law an attorney can object to leading questions that suggest a specific answer, which I talked about earlier.

In short, the leading question, do you remember the 1990s film Shazam that starred Sinbad as a genie, which was post on Reddit, not only suggests that such a film actually exists, but could even insert a false memory on those having read the question. Well, I can well played Katelyn, Game Set match. Holy shit, that was great. After researching Elizabeth Loftus' research into false memory syndrome, where time and time again groups of people have gone to jail, or had their lives ruined by people remembering outlandish shit because someone suggested to them, or they have a good imagination, or because they read about it somewhere and it lodged into their subconscious and then came out years later

some sort of repressed memory I really makes it obvious to me that memories can be created the powers of confabulation and suggesting a real And that talking about that confabulation my wife and I have argued countless times over some situation where she knows, she knows, for sure, something to happen one day, I definitely remember it happened a different way. Each time we do this, one of us ends up being right, and only one. But she's positive, she's the one who's been right most of the time. Well, I know I have been right most of the time. You know, obviously we both can't be correct there, but both of us remember things. You know, like I'll remember putting away the dishes some day.

She says I didn't, I'll remember it. I know exactly the way I did it. But maybe I'm just using confabulation to kind of build that memory from previous times putting away the dishes. That's a real thing the brain can do. You know, in various circumstances, create an initial false memory and then the web places like Reddit, galvanizing, some loose collection of similar memories into one, how could we all remember the same thing and correctly kind of movement?

It makes a lot of fucking sense to me. Man, Caitlin Amats breakdown reminds me of Dr. Henry Roddiger's breakdown at the beginning of this time suck. One person's memory is infect others as kind of memory virus. To me, that explains Mandela effect. It makes much more sense than various alternate reality theories based on 90s TV. It makes even more sense than futuristic post-human computer simulation theories. Cool as that is by Nick Bostrom and Neil deGrasse Tyson.

You know, so there you go, man. I feel good now. Despite the fucking it is next door, Ronin my first time time recorded my new equipment as a kid in Christmas morning, and then someone fucking took a shit on my presence, but whatever, man, we did it. I feel like I got a good handle on this Mandela Effect situation. And mostly I feel good things to Elizabeth Loftus, Henry Rodiger, Kaelin Amant, thanks to

your research, no thanks at all, to Fiona, Fairy Hunterroom. And now, it's time for recap. Time, shock, tough, five take away. Number one, in the last couple of decades, multiple daycare providers have had their businesses go bankrupt, and have gone to prison for either being suspected of, or being found guilty of sexually abusing children as part of a satanic ritual. What are prisons made up of?

Born again Christians and dudes who consider pedophiles as scum of the earth. While the molestation charges were completely false, you know the ass rapes these poor bastards got in prison were all too real. Number two, Fiona Broome, creator of the term Mandela Effect, watched way too much sci-fi in the 90s, and things that were a good chance the Mandela Effect can be explained by the TV show Sliders. The only thing Sliders actually proved is that many TV execs are in fact idiots. Check this out, Fox aired certain episodes from seasons 1 and 2 in a different order than originally scripted to best capitalize on potential ratings winning episodes. Completely fucking up the serialized continuity of Geryl Connell's most successful TV show

since Camp Wilder. For instance, the timer is first set to count down, not in the pilot episode, but in summer of love. But since Fox aired fever right after the pilot episode, many viewers were left confused as to why the slider suddenly had to leave within a very specific period of time that hadn't explained to them. Similarly, the cliffhanger, at the end of of Summer of Love leads directly into the opening of the episode Prince of Wales, which Fox had actually aired a week earlier. It's fucking ridiculous. You know who wasn't confused by all that? Fiona goddamn broom.

All part of some typical alternate universe shit for her. Number 3. Sinbad never appeared in the movie Shazam and it's not the Bernstein Bears. It's Bernstein Bears, it's it's Berenstein Bears. I know it's hard but if Sinbad himself can accept these truths and if Stan and Jan Berenstein creators of the Berenstein Bears can, so can you. Number four, who knew one shitty book Michelle remembers could leave a legacy of so much pain and confusion. El Ron Hubbard, that's who Michelle remembers, doesn't have shit on the destructive legacy of Dianetics.

Number 5. Just to be clear, just to be absolutely clear, the Dubie brothers were and are totally real. They've sold over 40 million albums to date, were inducted into the vocal group Hall of Fame in 2004. Their guitar, electric-based rock, rock and roll gave way to a more soft rock and blue-eyed sold sound when they brought real life angel angel, Micah McDonnell, into the fold 1976. Going on to pen, such hits as Grammy-winning record, what a fool believes in 1978.

What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power. A song co-written by Angel Slash Humanoid Unicorn, Kenny Loggins, a guy who also wrote and sang amongst many other hits, oh I don't know, Footloose. Maybe you heard of that little Kevin Bacon dance, Diddy. And since he owned the 80s, the Top Gun theme song, Danger Zone. How way to the Danger Zone?

Gonna take a ride in to the danger zone. Time suck, tough ride take away. We did it time suckers, we did it. We made it through some stuff on that episode. Mandela effect thoroughly sucked. Maybe went a little heavy on the satanic shit to get there, but who can resist suck on Satan? It is fascinating.

You had me at satanic cult. I was sucked in and I wasn't getting out of any time soon. I hope the sound quality was a nice bump up from the last 30 episodes. I'm gonna figure out how to never record again when there's fucking 17 loading trucks surrounding my house. And in some weird, it's like the lizard illuminati

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