Timesuck with Dan Cummins - 66 - Eleanor MF'n Roosevelt

Episode Date: December 18, 2017

Who was Eleanor Roosevelt? She was the niece of Theodore Roosevelt. The wife of Franklin D. Roosevelt. So much Roosevelt! She was also a bad MF'er. She revolutionized the role of First Lady in America...n Politics. She didn’t just plan parties for other women of privilege - she gave press conferences with the public and wrote an internationally distributed newspaper column. She served on the United Nations. She stood up for the oppressed in an age when most did not. She was a light in the darkness, a beacon in the storm, a cool glass of sanity and reason in a desert of ignorance and oppression. And today, she’s getting sucked! Trouble with the APP or new website? Email BitElixir! (you'll have to copy and paste - sorry) Timsuckapp@bitelixir.co Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG, @timesuckpodcast on Twitter, and www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Who was Eleanor Roosevelt? She was an ace of theodore Roosevelt. Teddy, the wife of Franklin D. Roosevelt, so much Roosevelt in her blood. She was goddamn super-rosovelt. She revolutionized the role of First Lady in American politics. She did just plan parties for other women of privilege. She gave press conferences with the public and wrote an internationally distributed newspaper column.
Starting point is 00:00:21 After her husband's death, she served with the United Nations. Focusing on human rights and women's issues, she stood up for the oppressed in an age when most did not. She spoke her mind during a time when most women could not. She was light in the darkness, a beacon in the storm, a cool glass of sanity and reason, in a desert of ignorance and oppression. And today, she's getting fucking sucked right here on TimeSuck. Happy Monday, cold to the curious, I'm Dan Cummins, aka the Prophet of Nimrod, the Suck Master, the Sultan of Suck, the Tamer of Bojangles, and his beautiful and talented friends.
Starting point is 00:01:04 This is TimeSuck. Huge thanks to Madison Wisconsin Time Suckers who came out this past week. Three sold out shows in Madison, two others that were damn close. Thanks to Joey for being one of the best club managers in the game. All the shows were fun, but over half of the Saturday first show crowd, man, clearly were Time Suckers, and that show was electric One of my favorite shows in recent memory More of that please you guys got a level when you guys come out man wearing the t-shirts pumps me up
Starting point is 00:01:37 Here in the hail Nimrods my head stage. Oh my god. It's so funny. It's so ridiculous. It's so fun Gives me you know gets me pumping more energy into the suck. I got I got two hours of sleep night, and I didn't give a fuck because I got this episode ready. Right, you make the sacrifice worth it. I really like how the new materials coming together for the standup show, very time suck-esque. Thanks for letting me try it out with you guys. Closing out the year, this year at the Comedy Works in Denver, Colorado, December 28th,
Starting point is 00:01:59 through New Year's Eve next week. Hope to see you there. I've heard that club is a blast. Indianapolis, come on Indy. Be good to me again. Morty's comedy joint, January 5th and 6th. Get those tickets now. Indy suckers.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Providence Rhode Island, the comedy connection, January 19th and 20th. Chikapi, Massachusetts, Cabot Comedy Club, January 21st. Philadelphia, Philly. I'm gonna be at the punchline, January 25th through the 27th. That club, I've heard it's very, very good. I love the punchline in San Francisco. I hear this place is equally fun.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Chicago, one of my favorite clubs in the nation, Zaney's and Rose Mons, January 31st through February 3rd, New York City, Gotham Comedy Club. Man, I haven't been there for years. I taped an episode of Live at Gotham many years ago. My first Comedy Central taping was at that club. I hope this night is just magical on February 11th. I taped an episode of Live Agatha many years ago, my first Comedy Central taping was at that club. I hope this night is just magical on February 11th. Two live podcasts now on the books for 2018.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Small town murder swap cast in Detroit. There we go, now I can talk. February 16th, 2018, Magic Back. Yeah, live swap cast podcast tickets are on sale. Two shows now, one night, stand up at seven, swap cast at 10, Sisyphus Brewing, come on you guys, get your tickets on sale.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Minneapolis, March 3rd, only $10 tickets for a live time stock podcast, and then stand up shows on March 2nd, 3rd, and if you follow me on Instagram at time stock podcast, and when those tickets go on sale, like I'll try and post everything there first. Sorry, I, a lot of these things, I just don't have any control over, you know?
Starting point is 00:03:26 You bug them and you cross your fingers and you wait. Check the tour dates section on the website otherdancomans.tv, time suckpodcast.com. For more info on all of this ticket links in the episode description for all the shows I mentioned that have ticket links available. More announcements about merch, the app, other stuff at the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Right now, let's get into time sucks, time suck, 66, Eleanor, Motherfucking Roosevelt. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Eleanor Roosevelt is adored by a large number. If not most, feminists. I took a feminism 101 course years ago, and I'm pretty sure Eleanor was covered. And I'd say Eleanor Roosevelt is one of the greatest feminists of all time, but that's doing her
Starting point is 00:04:08 a disservice. She's one of the great humanists of all time. And maybe there's a technical definition of humanist that is not what I am talking about right now, but I just mean someone for all humans. You know, I feel like real feminism is not advancing women's rights at the expense of men. It's advancing women's rights to be equal to that of men. And often, in the case of Eleanor, it is about bringing the rights of women equal to the rights of men and then pushing to bring the rights of everyone into balance, everyone, all sexual orientations and colors and socio-economic classes, bringing the rights of the have-nots in alignment with the haves.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And it's what Eleanor fought for her entire adult life. Let's take a nice, long look at that life with the time-subtimeline. Shrap on those boots, soldier. We're marching down a time-subtimeline. October 11th, 1884, Anna Eleanor, Motherfucking, Roosevelt, born in Manhattan, New York. She was the first child born to Elliot Bullock, Roosevelt, brother of Time, suck 53, Teddy Motherfucking, Roosevelt. That's how she got that extra middle name of hers, from Teddy.
Starting point is 00:05:21 The one that I made up for both of them. And her mom was Anna Rebecca Hall, wealthy socialite. Eleanor was born into money in privilege. Her family being part of the wealthy, East co-delete that platinum privilege class, the rest of the country began to refer to as the swells. I love it, the swells. Just life sure would be grand if I will swell.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I could be the big cheese, a real live wire, the real McCoy, yes please. I could be the cat's pajamas, and I could live the big cheese, a real live wire, the real McCoy, yes, please. I could be the cat's pajamas, and I could live so well, if only I could be a swell. Chase the gals with the grandest gams, only time we'll tell if I will be a swell. There actually wasn't real song, a song with a melody that's not painful and torturous to listen to. It stays in key, follows basic musical theory components. There was later made about the swells, Little Ditty, sang by Judy Garland and Fred Astaire.
Starting point is 00:06:11 We're a couple of swells. We stop at the best hotels. But we prefer the country far away from the city smells. Oh. Oh, I don't know why that really cracks me up. are all the way from the city smells. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I don't know why that really cracks me up. It's still a little musical, a little ditty, a little old ditty, a little ditty dandy.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Um, okay, so her mom was a Manhattan socialite. Yeah, one of the swells. Noted for her physical beauty and vanity, a woman born into multi-generational wealth, a woman, you know, old money. And apparently, she was also an asshole, born on that in a bit. Her father was also part of a wealthy family, very wealthy family.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Eleanor came from the St. Line of Roosevelt as Teddy Roosevelt. He was one of the oyster Bay Roosevelt's, right? That size rise to wealth, Vio's Via banking, namely the chemical bank, now known as chase JP Morgan and chemical bank was a bank with headquarters in New York City from 1824 till 1996 and at the end of 1995 chemical is the third largest bank in the United States with about 182.9 billion in assets that a lot. That's quite a bit of assets. More than 39,000 employees around the world,
Starting point is 00:07:27 for more than that old, kind of, Teddy Rose developed money, Liston TimeSug 53, aside from being rich, Elliot also a raging alcoholic, more on that in a bit as well. And like his wife, he was known for being quite the looker,
Starting point is 00:07:38 handsome man from a wealthy family, what a catch, what a swell dandy, what a swell swell. Not really. Dude comes across like a pathetic, emotionally unstable, lazy, deadbeat. However, Eleanor, or a swell dandy or swell swell. Not really. Dude comes across like a pathetic, emotionally unstable, lazy deadbeat. However, Eleanor, a daughter father, and when he was around him and he was sober, he seemed like a good dad who was deprecated that love.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Unfortunately, he just wasn't around and he wasn't sober very often. He's known to be charismatic, made his presence felt when he walked into a room. Didn't seem to ever hold a real job or need one. Yeah, he can probably be a little more charismatic. You never have to worry about getting up for work. Eleanor, when asked what her father did, would describe him as a sportsman, not a professional athlete, a sportsman. That's a rich guy, title. Guy who has, you know, a lot of time for big game hunts and for tennis, for polo club matches, you know, because he, again, he never has to work. Elliott's father had left him a lot of money when he died. He was able to afford to do himself, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:26 traveling to and climbing the Himalayas, bounce around Asia for a while, then coming back and regaling other socialites with his tales of adventure. I played lots of polo with the Metal Brook Club on Long Island. Finally, he got a job working for New York's leading real estate establishment, the Ludlow firm, where he wasn't terribly successful
Starting point is 00:08:43 because he didn't earn anything. Family connections, you know, basically just gave him a new place to drink, chat with other rich people. Instead of a bar or a polo club, it happened to be called an office now. He didn't stay there long. Took a job later as Uncle's investment firm didn't show up much around that, that place traveled extensively through Europe after he got the job, drank a lot more. Ellie was essentially like that movie character of just a rich aristocrat that no one has any real respect for.
Starting point is 00:09:06 His brother Teddy is out there using his family connections and wealth for good. And he's wasting his life on booze and decadent travel, which is what Lucifina tells me I should do if I ever fall into money. She says I should get drunk on beaches, eat the finest meals, and never give back to society. Hey, Lucifina, I mean, I begon Lucifina,
Starting point is 00:09:23 don't do that, ever. That sounds terrible. He'll name her. Eleanor referred to be called by her middle name, probably because her mom's name was Anna, she wasn't a huge mom fan. She probably wasn't a huge mom fan because her mom called her granny.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Mom called her granny. That was her nickname for her daughter as a young child and it wasn't like a cute nickname like, you know, I love, I know you love your grandma, you hang out so much so we're gonna call you Granny. No, she called her Granny because she felt like she looked like an old woman. Like, she looked, she looked plain looking
Starting point is 00:09:51 and just wasn't pretty. What a fucking asshole. I cannot imagine teasing one of my kids about their physical appearance, about their looks. You know, and I could have easily been doing that for years because both my kids, like both Kyler and Monroe, very unattractive, like very ugly. Seriously, the painful look at, really.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I mean, but you know what, I don't go around calling them trolls and goblins, even though they look more like those creatures than actual human beings, because that's not cool, you guys. All right, I never make fun of their horrible, horrible looks, not even a dinner when I have to continually gaze up, and look away or stare through them
Starting point is 00:10:25 instead of fixating on their nasty ugly monster faces in order to keep them losing my appetite, makes my skin crawl. Just to think about the way my kids look, but I don't say anything to them. Seriously, based on this alone, I'm just going to say that, yeah, Anna's not a good mom, not a good person in general. And by the way, my kids are handsome and beautiful. My daughter is very handsome. My son is very beautiful.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And now both are gonna punch me when they hear this episode. As a result of mom's cruel teasing, Eleanor was rather shy grown up. Yeah, of course she was. Her mom's cruelty influenced her personality, giving her more empathy for the world than she would have likely otherwise had.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You know since mom made it clear that her line on her looks and life was just not an option, she learned she could earn love and affection by doing things for others, by being useful. This strong aspect of her personality stayed with her until the end of her life. Funny how if mom would have just thought she was beautiful, she probably never would have grown up into the amazing empathetic, civic-minded person that we know her as.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Her life would have just been a, it wouldn't have been nearly as memorable or impactful. Had she been born with a slightly different look. Looks certainly are not everything. The beautiful people are not always necessarily the best people to be. I love that angle in today's tale. 1889 when Eleanor was not quite five, the wonderful Roosevelt parents welcomed a second child
Starting point is 00:11:38 into the world to mock and neglect, Elliot Jr., who would lead a short tragic life. 1891 when Eleanor was six, the second brother was born, Gracie Hall Roosevelt, you heard that right. They had a boy in the name of him Gracie because they were assholes. Why not just name him Linda or Michelle? Gracie would go by Hall
Starting point is 00:11:56 because apparently he did not enjoy the taunts and fists of school yard bullies. Hall would go on to have a minor career in politics and sadly share his father's alcoholism. I didn't have any stats to back this up, but I feel like your chance to become an alcoholic increases when you're a boy and your parents name you crazy. 1891, big year for the Roosevelt. They also welcomed their third son into the world.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Well, at least Elliot did. It's awkward, awkward. He had been having an affair with Katie Man, a family servant, and the affair resulted in a half brother, Elliot Roosevelt Man. And it was understandably less than overjoyed about this. There was a payoff and Katie went away. Well, due to Elliot's womanizing, in addition to the baby with one mistress, he also had a prolonged affair in Europe with another woman, Florence Bagley Sherman, an ex-patreon living in Paris with her two children. And probably I'm guessing numerous other little, you Bagley Sherman, an expatriate living in Paris with her two children,
Starting point is 00:12:45 and probably I'm guessing numerous other little, you know, you know, cohorts here and there, little, little, little, Humping here, little Humping there. Due to this and due to his alcoholism and more and more frequent emotional albers, he was essentially banished from the family. They didn't divorce, didn't necessarily even separate,
Starting point is 00:13:01 really, but he begins to live separately. When the family returns from a trip to Europe in 1891, Elliot does not join them. Theodore weighed in on all this, gotta love me some Teddy mother fucking rose development. Man was a pistol, spoke his mind. Him and Eleanor clearly share the same blood. He was beyond disappointed in his brother,
Starting point is 00:13:19 he was disgusted hearing about his brother's womanizing and drunkenness, he called Elliot a maniac mentally as well as morally, calling that publicly. He also referred to Elliot as a flagrant man swine. That's some old time swear in there. My brother is a flagrant man swine. It is not fit to hold the title of Roosevelt.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He's a flagrant man swine. He's a swashbuckler. Well, I guess that'd be a pirate. 1892, not a good year for the Roosevelt Swills, very unswill year for certain. Eleanor's mother Anna dies of diphtheria on December 7th, 1892. Diphtheria is a bacterial infection with symptoms
Starting point is 00:13:54 that begin between two to five days after exposure, usually starting off mildly, sore throat and fever. It can develop to grow a gray or white patch in a throat that can block the airway, creating a barking cough. The neck swells due to enlarged lymph nodes. There's also a form that can involve the skin, eyes, and genitals.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Oh, man, genitals diphtheria. That sounds like the worst kind of diphtheria, right? When your balls get a cough, when your balls get a sore throat. I'm sure that's not how it works. Complications can include myocarditis, Jesus Christ, inflammation of nerves, kidney problems, bleeding problems, due to low levels of platelets.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Myocarditis, myocarditis, motherfucker, I hate that word. May result in an abnormal heart rate, inflammation of the nerves, that may result in paralysis, that's not fun. Usually spread through direct contact or to the air is a rough way to go out. Dip theory now, extremely rare in the US and other developed countries
Starting point is 00:14:45 thanks to widespread vaccination against a disease. For those not vaccinated medications are available now to treat diphtheria as well. However, in advanced ages, diphtheria can damage your heart, your kidneys, nervous system, even with treatments. Diphtheria can be deadly up to 3% of people who get diphtheria to dive it.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So you know, vaccinate your fucking kids already. Anti-vaccine, another future suck. One I will get some angry emails about, for sure. Oh, I know from just regular life experience talking about that with people. I've gotten some serious arguments about that with some former coworkers. Huge trigger, like huge trigger for some people as I found out again in my personal life. So anodized of a disease, science can now vaccinate against and she dies without her husband at her side because he is a drunken sloppy, spoiled mess of a human being.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And last words, and I ever spoke to a word to Eleanor, to her daughter, to Granny. She told her young daughter, only eight of the time, please, if you ever want to be loved, you must figure out how to become beautiful or at the very least have big dits or at the very, very least, patio bras. And of course, be very, very, very skinny. Don't eat patio bras. Agree with what men say and laugh at all their jokes. And always remember that ugly women die alone.
Starting point is 00:16:00 And then Anna herself expired right before saying that. Of course, she didn't say that. But I feel like she thought it. I feel like she may have thought it. Poor Eleanor now left without a mom, even if she was a shitty one, her dad is not around. Money in privilege, man,
Starting point is 00:16:11 do not guarantee an easy childhood, do they? Reminds me of the JFK two-part sec. Well, six months later, her brother, Elliot Jr. dies. Same thing, at the age of three, and 1893 when Eleanor is still only eight. Another rough year for Ellie, 1894, Shitstorm continues to blow through Ellie's life.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Her father already estranged, now dead, confined to a sanitarium for treatment for alcoholism. He jumps from window in August in a fitted delirium at the age of 34. He survives the initial fall, but suffers a seizure and dies a few days later on August 14th. At the time of his death, his alcoholism had escalated such that he was consuming numerous bottles
Starting point is 00:16:47 of champagne and brandy each and every single day. Man, champagne every day. I know serious alcoholism is not funny, but there is something funny about drinking numerous bottles of champagne every day, such a cartoonish rich guy cliche, living every day like it's a New Year's Eve party. I just picture, I picture more in a little party hat, you know, with confetti
Starting point is 00:17:06 poppers, noise makers, just break out in the car, we're miles of champagne everybody. Let's do countdown. Five, four, three, one, happy new day. Congratulations everyone, is March 7th. Woo! Where he eats a jolly fellow. He's a jolly fellow. He's a jolly fellow. Anyone denies. And that's the night I just made up. I want you to know that Elliot was completely alone.
Starting point is 00:17:38 He was singing that song by himself in his vegetarian room. Yeah, it's even sadder than what you were already thinking. Eleanor's devastated, even though dad was rarely around, clearly had some problems. She adored her father. She dored him most likely because he was not around. She was able to create some idealized version of him in her mind, blame her mom, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:54 for him not being around, maybe blame mom for his drinking too. And now, nine-year-old Eleanor Roosevelt has down both parents and one brother. Eleanor and her remaining sibling, Hall, O'Gracey, went to live with her maternal grandma, Mary Livingston, Ludlow, of the Livingston family in Tivoli, New York. Her half brother, Elliot Mann,
Starting point is 00:18:11 is living with his mom, estranged from her side of the family. They did not grow up together. Life at Grandma Mary's, bit chaotic. More of the same pattern of money and privilege and people doing nothing good with it. Being surrounded by all these people who clearly had the mean to do so much and did so little,
Starting point is 00:18:27 had to have clearly affected Eleanor's worldview and plans for adulthood. Her grandma Mary had married a much older, rigidly religious, controlling man who treated her like a child when she was 15, he died. She was not equipped to be a mother and raise her kids or grandkids. Or do much of anything really. She'd been sheltered from actual responsibility until middle age. Her two sons, Eleanor's uncles, Valentin and Edward, had serious problems with alcohol,
Starting point is 00:18:49 just like her dad did. And from when I could find out about them, they were just a couple of rowdy, spoiled, petulant assholes. Anna had helped her mom with a family budget, and when she died, Mary was just lost. One cousin recalled her home was, quote, a very unpleasant place. It took a toll on Eleanor.
Starting point is 00:19:05 She seemed beaten. As a life was more than she could bear, her home was a secluded semi-barricated place with shades pulled tightly against the light. Doors, you know, between rooms closed, visitors tightly screened. Ah, yes, again, I'm like, I have a weird movie about reclusive rich people. Eleanor would later reflect upon her grandma. Her willingness to be subservient to her children isolated her. And it might have been far better for her boys at least had she insisted on bringing more discipline into their
Starting point is 00:19:30 lives simply by having a life of her own. Man, I get that. You know, you see those parents sometimes who just live by carelessly through their kids, you know, and then just like becomes so worried about their kids not being friends with them, they just can't discipline their kids. It's always so fucking pathetic. Eleanor understood Hall sadness, used as a catalyst for her own happiness. My grandmother's life had a considerable effect on me, for even when I was young I determined she wrote in this I remember that I would never be dependent upon my children by allowing all my interest to centred them.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Living with her grandma she did not seem to overcome her mother's fixation on physical beauty riding at 14. No matter how plain a woman may be, if truth and loyalty are stamped upon her face, all will be attracted to her. I get that, man, truth and loyalty. Way more important than fading looks. In 1899, at the age of 15, she was sent to Adamswood Academy, out of London, and in Wimbledon, in Wimbledon.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I was a finishing school, school for young women, basically, teaching them how to be a lady to enter into society. Hi, society. I'd finished their education and also taught the manners and etiquette. I wish we had a little more of that now, to be honest. Man, people are such fucking dirt bags in public so much at the time.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And our later autobiography, she noted how she felt so free for the first time in her life. She loved learning, she was a, she was a time sucker. Although she probably would have found my humor quite distasteful in unnecessary. Guessing she would not be a big fan of the Chicatilo you know cameos. She became the head mistress Marie Savoustra's favorite student. In order to learn fluid French, she was loved by her peers. She visited with her aunt Anna Bami Roosevelt, often who had encouraged her to go to
Starting point is 00:21:04 Alan's with the first place. She kept in touch with Sylvestra until the head mistress died in 1905. And she wished to stay at Allen's with as long as possible, but she was summoned back to the state's biogrammer Mary 1902 to make her social debut much to her dismay. Rich people problems, man. Oh, man, can't stay at a prestigious private school,
Starting point is 00:21:21 not make it any money, live it in Europe. Gotta come home and find a man. Now she's 17 without a single man interested in Europe, gotta come home and find a man. Now she's 17 without a single man interested in her. She's practically an old maid already. Does she want to die alone? She's, she later remembered this time as being terrible. She didn't really know anyone in her little Debbie Tont
Starting point is 00:21:36 circuit anymore. She was a fish out of rich water in New York. You know, again, you know, first world problems, you know, at least you didn't have to, I don't know, find a fucking job and pay your way through life. But I haven't walked in her shoes, so maybe I shouldn't judge, and she didn't, she didn't love her life, so I really shouldn't judge.
Starting point is 00:21:50 This is also about the same time she started, you know, to involve herself in her charity work for the first time, giving herself a general public, and the legacy she become most known for. So I'm sorry about the job crack. Turns out, you know, she was doing some cool stuff, she came active with the New York Junior League. Shortly after, it's founding, teaching dancing
Starting point is 00:22:07 and calisthenics in the East Side Slums in New York. The New York Junior League still around today was founded just a year before in 1901. Mary Haramon, a student at Barnard College, was so moved by the poverty in New York City. She decided to do something about it. She rallied her friends, joined the cause, and soon they were visiting the Lower East Side settlements, teaching and mentoring
Starting point is 00:22:27 the immigrant families who were living there. And now Eleanor is helping her as well. She was immediately criticized by some relatives for engaging in public activity, not common for a young woman. It was how dare you help those poor people, Eleanor? I if they wanted better lives, they would have been born into wealthy families, like we were. Tell about one's choices. I wanted a life of beach home vacations, European trips, lobster and champagne. So I was born into wealth and privilege. I wielded.
Starting point is 00:22:53 They chose to be born into squalor and filth. They must warrant it. You must let them be. I work like this the time yet. It's not the norm for the swells. Mocking about with a poor and a disenfranchised cat. Somebody could see him. Crazy that her noble decision to help others through criticism. Well, that summer, she met her father's fifth cousin Franklin Delano, a Roosevelt on a trained
Starting point is 00:23:13 at Tivoli, New York, and they immediately did it. Oh, so hard. They had sex eight times before he even knew her name. They had sex three times before he even knew she was a woman and had sex once before he even knew she was a human being. Hey, Elustafina, I mean, begun. Now they had nice old timey courting. The two began a secret correspondence and romance and became engaged on November 22nd, 1903. Who's granny now, mama? Who's granny now? In other words, future mother-in-law Sarah and Del Delano, apparently opposed the union, made FDR promise that the engagement would not be officially announced for a year.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Eleanor just couldn't win with maternal figures, man. Sarah tried to give her son a year to change his mind. That's kind of he's so shitty. Have your future mother-in-law that opposed to you? And to have your future husband agree to delay the announcement, that had to have stung too. Luckily for him, I guess, you know, Eleanor was used to be beaten down by by her own mom. Frank then finally stood up for Eleanor and wrote his mother, I know what pain I must have
Starting point is 00:24:12 caused you. I know my own mind and have known it for a long time. And I know that I could never think otherwise. Adding now, stop being such a selfish, controlling bitch. And then he immediately threw that draft to the letter away and rewrote the last part. Sarah even sent a baby boy FDR, the young man who five years later would invest $5,000 and to find that Oak Island treasure is you learn last week. She even sent FDR and a Caribbean cruise in 1904 to kill their romance. FDR was determined. He loved Eleanor and the tour two were married on March 17th, 1905 again. What a bitch. You know, just frankly, my dear boy, I have a surprise for you.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I've bought you a trip to the Caribbean. You can explore shipwrecks and drink on tropical paradise beaches and maybe even find some time for romance. Thank you, mother. I can't wait to tell Eleanor, she'll be delighted. Eleanor is not invited. I bought a ticket for you and you alone. There'll be lots of single women on the boat.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I want you to explore your options. I want you to get your dick wet. What? Ah, that was too much. He goes on a trip. But as I said, they stayed together. They get married. Eleanor's uncle, President Teddy Roosevelt
Starting point is 00:25:18 gives Eleanor away at the wedding. Man, Jesus, the prestigious family. Who's giving you away? My uncle. And what does your uncle do? He's the leader of the free world. Teddy's presence put their wedding on the front page to the New York Times and other newspapers
Starting point is 00:25:29 and he's set up their wedding. It's a good thing to keep the name in the family. Okay. Kind of cool, I guess. Also kind of creepy. Bit incestuous, really, right? Just keep it in the family. That's what I always say.
Starting point is 00:25:43 When looking for a good woman, look no further than down the hallway of your own home. Start with siblings and if they had taken look to cousins next, don't muddy the water. Keep the bloodlines pure. Unlike other women, at least you have a good idea where your sisters and cousins have been. All right, I know I'm being a little ridiculous, but man, if fifth cousins not nearly the same as sister, still just a weird thing to say, weird mentality. They spent the summer of 1905 on a three month honeymoon tour of Europe, three months in Europe. And then FDR's mommy gave them one of the family homes, the big house in Hyde Park, New York,
Starting point is 00:26:14 some museum today, it's a national historic site. The house FDR was born in, 20,000 foot mansion on 265 acres. You know, you just have it when you get back from staying in the finest hotels in Europe for an entire summer. Holy shit, this level of wealth is always mind blowing to me. The kind where like, can you imagine that like when you travel, you don't even have to think about money. I think about that. There's literally no hotel too expensive for you to stay at. You don't consider price when you look at a menu. You imagine that?
Starting point is 00:26:42 You know, consider the expense of the restaurant. You go wherever you feel like going. You don't budget for activities, outings, you do whatever, you know, you wanna do that you have time to fit into your plans and you have a lot of time. Because you can essentially, you know, basically hang out over there practically as long as you want. Jesus, FDR side of the Roosevelt's
Starting point is 00:26:59 like Eleanor's also made their money in banking years and years and years before. I traced back the Roosevelt wealth that includes FDR's branches in that suck on banking, years and years and years before. I traced back the roads about wealth that it includes FDR branches in that suck on Teddy, if you wanna check that out. All this awesomeness came, however, with the nasty string attached, FDR's mom would also be living at the family home
Starting point is 00:27:15 in Hyde Park, Banshin. You know, her quarters connected to the newlyweds by sliding door. How terrible would that be? To be living with your mother-in-law immediately after your honeymoon. No, thank you. No, thank you. I don't know. I honestly don't know if that would be worth being rich. And I get along great with my mother-in-law, but I would never
Starting point is 00:27:30 want her a sliding glass door away. I would never want any mother-in-law a sliding glass door away. And especially, think about from Eleanor's point of view, she's doing that with a mother-in-law who does not like her. How the fuck do you accept that? Yeah, I don't know. I guess him being super rich didn't hurt. And you know, I don't know. In Eleanor, she did clearly love him. But yeah, sounds down to Terry,
Starting point is 00:27:54 but though, Sarah sounds like the mother-in-law from hell. Poor Eleanor, shitty mom, checked out grandma, super shitty mother-in-law. Sarah and Delano just did not like Eleanor. She also didn't trust Eleanor to be in charge of the time she found, yeah, to be in charge of her son's family. She ran both households, especially when her six grandkids
Starting point is 00:28:10 were born, that's right, six grandkids. Apparently, mom being right around the corner did not stop old FDR and Ellie from knocking it out, just crushing it every time mom steps away. Maybe, well, I kind of actually kind of addressed that later. Sarah sounded like a terrible grandma. Eleanor's elder son, James, James remembers Sarah once telling her grandkids Your mother only bore you. I am your mother more than your mother is fuck that
Starting point is 00:28:35 That's what old mom and log it's kicked the hell out of her own home Actually, that wasn't an option. She she she gave it to him But she still had all the money kind of control of it. And actually to be fair, while Eleanor was an amazing woman, she was not the best mom. So maybe that was a good call. That call in Sarah's part, she admitted as much Eleanor would, saying later, it did not come naturally to me
Starting point is 00:28:55 to understand little children or to enjoy them. I actually didn't even enjoy them. She also admitted late in life that she didn't enjoy making them, saying that having sex with FDR was, quote, in ordeal. But the kids nonetheless, they had Anna Eleanor Roosevelt born in 1906, who would live until 1975. James wrote Roosevelt the second born in 1907, who would live until 1991. Franklin Roosevelt born in 1909, who would also die sadly in 1909 at the age of eight months.
Starting point is 00:29:22 He was never a healthy baby. He was sickly the entire time, battling Johnです. The flu early on, had a large heart and heart murmur and he passed away early. They had had even held a deal with Jesus. The couple then had Elliot Roosevelt born in 1909, who would live until 1990. And then it took a few years off of Baby Macon,
Starting point is 00:29:37 and then they had two more kids, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Jr. Born in 1914, died in 1988, and then John asked him while Roosevelt II. Born in 1916, Jr. Born in 1914, died in 1988, and then John Aspenwall, Roosevelt II, born in 1916, it would die in 1981, and then I'm guessing Eleanor was like, enough, Jesus. You put on one of those new condom things, are you keeping your thingy out of me? That's a direct quote. Of course it's not. Actually, we're going to learn more soon about why Eleanor might not have wanted to keep having kids. I Might not have wanted to do it anymore. Maybe five kids is fine enough.
Starting point is 00:30:07 You know, maybe Eleanor just didn't love sex, at least now with FDR. Maybe FDR focuses sexual energy elsewhere. That's at least part of the problem. He may have focused his sexual energy elsewhere because his wife was not interested in having sex with him. You know, I'm not cavalier about infidelity, but if your partner is sexually repulsed by you, I get cheating. I do. I do think it seems fair in that context.
Starting point is 00:30:31 If you join in a relationship where you agree to be someone's sole sexual outlet for life, it is highly unreasonable to then cut them off forever and expect them to remain faithful. Anywho. 1918, FDR, got caught having an affair with her own secretary. Lucy Mercer, and he's having an affair with his wife, Secretary, in September 1918, when Eleanor unpacking for her husband, who had just returned from England with the flu,
Starting point is 00:30:56 discovered a bundle of incriminating letters. Uh-oh. Five years prior, 1913, on the advice of Anna Roosevelt-Cowles, a family elder known as Antibai, Eleanor Roosevelt had hired Lucy Mercer, seven years younger to be her social secretary. FDR was newly installed as the assistant secretary of the Navy. She was in the early stage of pregnancy and overwhelmed, the demands of Washington society. Attractive and personal, Lucy quickly proved herself so useful and efficient that she became practically a member of the family.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Well, yeah, I guess she did in a different way. The Eleanor expected. Eleanor offered FDR divorce, but Sarah, member of the family. Well, yeah, I guess she did in a different way. The Eleanor expected. Eleanor offered FDR divorced, but Sarah, oh, mommy the earth's actually stepped in and said that if he left his wife, she would cut him off without a scent. So weird, man, that this guy who was like,
Starting point is 00:31:36 you know, gonna become one of the most powerful people in the world, like while he was president would still be holding to mommy's purse strings. So weird, that kind of multi-generational wealth, the control that sometimes comes along with it, where like the kids don't really become adults in some way. But yeah, so she's gonna cut him off. So, you know, not did not see that coming.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Not sure if Eleanor had just grown on her or if she just knew that FDR's political career was over if he left the mother as five children for his wife to sit. I'm guessing it was that. And it was a no bitch, which was a bitch, but she was no dummy. FDR was an ambitious young politician currently serving as assistant secretary of the Navy, the second highest rank in the Navy for an official.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He'd been in New York State Senator prior to his appointment, but he had ambitions to go much further, obviously, as we know he became president. And mom knew he would never, he would never achieve political glory, you know, with a scandalous divorce on his record, especially at that time. Lewis Howe, Franklin's trust and advisor also reaffirmed that a divorce would mean the end of his political career. So Franklin agreed to stay in the marriage under two conditions set down by Eleanor.
Starting point is 00:32:37 He had to break off his affair with Lucy Mercer immediately and for good, and he could never again, ever share his wife's bed. Yeah. Oh man, it's weird. According to the author Joseph Perseco's book, Franklin and Lucy, president Roosevelt, Mrs. Ruth Rutherford and the other remarkable woman
Starting point is 00:32:56 in his life, Franklin observed the second part of the agreement. He stayed out of his wife's bed. How long he kept the first part? Has been a matter of some scholarly debate and people are guessing not very long. Some believe that Lucy attended Roosevelt's first inauguration in March 1933, hiding in the back of a limousine
Starting point is 00:33:10 he had sent for her. The White House logs do show that someone named Mrs. Paul Johnson believed to be a pseudonym for Lucy Rutherford as she was then having married Winthrop, Rutherford. Winthrop, what a classic rich white person's name. Hello Winthrop, hello Solomon. I don't rich white person's name. Hello, Winthrop. Hello, Solomon.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I don't know, that didn't name would be. Well, he would or visited Nox's 1941 again in November, and it had been known for some time that after Winthrop's death in 1944, Lucy began seeing Franklin regularly, and that she and not his wife was with him when he died in Warms Springs, Georgia in April 1945. Man, the interesting and complicated lives,
Starting point is 00:33:44 powerful people, so often live, right? Well historical author, Perciko, by the way, is a pretty reputable source of info. He wrote about the CIA, Nuremberg, Civil War, World War I, and he was the primary speech writer for the governor of New York and vice president Nelson A. Rockefeller. So the romantic chapter of the long marriage between FDR and Eleanor comes to a close. It became a partnership based primarily on political goals. Much like what I strongly assumed Bill and Hillary Clinton's marriage to have been for
Starting point is 00:34:13 many years now. I wonder how many years it's been since I was two of had sex. I put my money around somewhere like 20, 30 years since they've been intimate in a physical way. Not that I think my fucking business, pure speculation, but it's my bad. After their new agreement, Eleanor became active in public life and through her focus into social work, rather than to be in a beautiful wife, the role she'd been attempting to play for the last decade. And while no longer romantic, Eleanor did still hold close and influential relationship with FDR, she wouldn't cross a line that would jeopardize
Starting point is 00:34:45 his career in his strategies and agendas, and she'd encourage him to take a harder stand on many things rather than tabling subjects he found politically difficult. You know, without Eleanor, you know, there's a chance FDR wouldn't have taken a stance on civil rights. In June of 1941, Roosevelt would issue executive order 8802, which created the Fair Employment Practice Committee. The FEPC, which created the Fair Employment Practice Committee. The FEPC, it was the most important federal move in support of the rights of African Americans between Reconstruction and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The president's order stated that the
Starting point is 00:35:15 federal government would not hire any person based on the race, color, creed, or national origin. The FEPC enforced the order to ban discriminatory hiring within the federal government and incorporations and received federal contracts. Millions of African American men and women achieved better jobs and better pay as a result. Eleanor also clearly loved and cared for FDR. In August 1921, FDR was diagnosed with polio while on vacation with his family at Cape Obelow Island, New Brunswick, Canada. He was enjoying a day of sailing on his yacht.
Starting point is 00:35:45 When he suddenly fell overboard into the icy waters of the Bay of Fundy, which ironically felt paralyzing to his body, instead of shocking. The following day, FDR complaint of lower back pain went for his swim in hopes of easing the soreness as the day progressed. He could feel his legs becoming weaker
Starting point is 00:35:59 and by the third day, he could no longer stand and hold his weight. His skin quickly became very sensitive and eventually even a slight breeze across his body caused great distress. Well, Eleanor was the one who took charge of the situation and began to contact a handful of doctors hoping one of them would be able to find a remedy to his unknown infirmity. One of these doctors was Dr. Keane who insisted the issue stemmed from a blood clot located
Starting point is 00:36:20 in the lower spinal cord and recommended that he receive Lumbar massages daily in order to help circulation. Days later, FDR was notified by Dr. Keane that his earlier diagnosis was incorrect and instead he claimed the distress was being caused by a spinal lesion. The massage therapy continued but did not prove to be successful in curing the paralysis, of course not. On August 25, 1921, another physician, Dr. Robert Loveitt, diagnosed FDR with infantile paralysis. You know, that is polio.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Polio is a virus that destroys nerve cells in the spinal cord. And before a vaccine was developed, you know, and in underdeveloped worlds, whether there still was no vaccine, it hit some people a lot harder than others. 70% of people infected, I guess, never actually exhibit symptoms. And many who do regain full use of their limbs, but not everyone and clearly not FDR. And again, vaccinate your kids, man. You can vaccinate against polio,
Starting point is 00:37:12 but you cannot cure it as it is a virus. You know, if you don't get vaccinated and you catch it, you can't just penicillinate away. You just gotta hope that it's not gonna fuck up your nerves to the point that it's gonna make your legs not work. What a strange affliction for FDR to come down with, man. It was uncommon for a man of 39 to come down with polio. Most people acquired the disease or an infancy, but most children became, you know, become immune to the disease by the age of four.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Love it, explain that in order for a person to combat polio, they must be in good emotional and physical health and have a healthy immune system. FDR thought the stressful life of politics might have made him susceptible to the disease and he's never, and he stepped away from politics for a while. Again, again, must be nice, not to come down with polio, obviously, but to have the family money to be able to walk away from your career at 39
Starting point is 00:37:58 and just deal with polio as you would like to in a perfect situation for that imperfect medical condition. And the stress thing, how stressful can your career really be when you don't need to pay your bills? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it is harder being super duper rich than I realize. From the outside, it seems fantastic.
Starting point is 00:38:18 FDR would remain partially paralyzed from the legs down permanently. Eleanor had to fight with Sarah about FDR's future. She persuaded him to stay in politics despite Sarah's objections for him to retire. Eleanor impressed FDR's doctors during his recovery, one doctor even proclaiming Eleanor to be one of his heroines because of her obvious devotion to FDR during this time.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Following FDR's polio, a diagnosis 1921, Eleanor began to make more public appearances, you know, kind of standing in for her husband, pun intended. Eleanor really started to become a prominent political figure after FDR came down, yeah, with Pollyll, he now needed her. You know, I had to rely on her like never before, man. She was coached by FDR advisor, Lewis Howe, and she ended up becoming a great orator, political power. She worked with the women's trade union league to raise funds to support their goals of a 48-hour work week, minimum wage wage abolishing child labor. She became an influential leader in the Democratic Party in New York
Starting point is 00:39:09 Network for her her husband Franklin. She made friends with women of the party You know to strengthen FDR standing with the New York Democrats while he worked on just recovering physically January of 1922 FDR was fit with braces that locked it at the knee continued the length of his leg. And by the spring of that year, he could stand with assistance. He wanted to heal enough to resume his political career. And he knew that if he couldn't stand, just wasn't going to happen. He knew America, at least not the America of the 1920s, not going to vote for someone
Starting point is 00:39:36 in a wheelchair, not going to vote for them for an important political office. He was a tough dude, man, physically and mentally. He wasn't going to let polio stop him. He wasn't going to let people's prejudices stop him. Eleanor may have been even tougher than him. She had a principles and she refused to back down from him in 1924. She campaigned for Democrat Alfred East Smith and his successful reelection bid as governor of New York State against. He was running against the Republican nominee and her first cousin
Starting point is 00:40:03 against the Republican nominee and her first cousin, Cedar Roosevelt, Jr., son of the man who gave her away at her wedding. Man, that had to have been a little awkward. Her aunt, Bami, you know, one's a big champion of hers, one's a source of inspiration to her, publicly broke ties with Eleanor, said she'd never forgive her for campaigning against her own family.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Saying, I just hate to see Eleanor let herself look as she does. Though never hands him, she always had to me a charming effect. Alas, and Alac, ever since politics had become her choices interest, all her charm has disappeared. Wow, fucking cheap shot, Aunt Bami, you bitch. Oh, wow, man, attacking that sore spot with her looks. What a low blow.
Starting point is 00:40:38 How catty. Man, trying to get in her head. Ah, what a seriously, like for an older woman, is that what a cheap shot. She's doing some political stuff, you're gonna be like, yeah, but she's ugly. Well, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Bring it back all those memories of her asshole mom. Eleanor hit back, you know, said, baby was an aged woman. Basically, you know, that was, I guess, her way of saying, like, ah, she's fucking old doesn't know what she's talking about. Dead, dead, dead, junior, was defeated by 105,000 votes. Never forgave his cousin, Eleanor. Again, I'm sure awkward little tension,
Starting point is 00:41:09 future family functions. Teddy, do you mind not being a sore loser and passing the grilled auto choke? Well, why don't you get your husband to get it for you, Eleanor? Or is he too busy being paralyzed of a baby disease? 1921 Eleanor again, campaign for Smith, his time in his run for presidency, he lost. But she did campaign for a winner that year, her husband, FDR ran for governor, New York. And to take over the seats, Smith was leaving vacant in his run for presidency and FDR one.
Starting point is 00:41:37 And that must have really pissed off Teddy Jr. During his term, Illinois traveled all across the state of New York, making speeches, inspecting state facilities on his behalf, reporting back to him. She became much more involved than she ever would have had, you know, not contracted polio. There's rumors that she gave him polio. There's rumors that haunted that she actually got a rag soaked in polio and would just kind of lay it across his face when he slept at night. So that's fucked up. But, yeah, you know, he couldn't walk and see things for himself, so she did that for him. And she also taught opera level classes in American literature
Starting point is 00:42:08 and history. She didn't, she didn't do the right thing. I was just in my mind thinking about how long I was gonna let that go. That's no, she didn't do that. She, she, she encouraged independent thought about, you know, current events and social engagement at the Todd Hunter School for girls institution. She helped buy in 1927 because she believed in it so much. It was a finishing school that offered college prep classes in New York City and Eleanor taught there three days a week until FDR was elected president in 1932. And she also helped run Val Kill Industries, a small factory to provide supplemental income for local farming families who would make furniture, puter, homespun cloth, using traditional craft methods like this. so weird to me.
Starting point is 00:42:45 In 1927, she and three friends, she'd met through her activities in the Women's Division of the New York State Democratic Party, Nancy Cook, Marion Dickerman, and Carolina Day, established valcuille, located on the banks of a stream that flowed to the Roosevelt family estate in Hyde Park. I'm sure mother-in-law Anna just loved that. Just Franklin, why do you allow your wife
Starting point is 00:43:04 to run some sort of bohemian compound, some commune on all families' sacred grounds? Why they're probably drinking moonshine and listening to jazz down there? Our neighbors must think we're socialists. Capitalizing on the popularity of the colonial revival look, most Val-Kill furniture products were modeled on 18th century colonial revival designs, you can still find this stuff, you can find like, you can find reproductions of this furniture.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I'm sure there's original pieces out there. You can pay a lot of money for. And Valkel Industries is actually back, you know, making, like it's been kind of reincarnated, making new furniture, you know, in the same style. She loved this business. She promoted it via interviews and public appearances. Unfortunately, it never became what she envisioned it to be,
Starting point is 00:43:44 you know, and, but it did lay the groundwork for new deal initiatives later during FDR's tenure as president. Again, just how random it cools that. Future First Lady, running some sort of hippie, our T-Gen furnisher shop. All right, 1932. That was a huge deal for Eleanor and FDR. Her husband decided to run for president's big year. She was deeply involved in his campaign You know, there's a tough campaign during the primary stage on the first presidential ballot the Democratic Convention Roosevelt received the votes of more than half but less than two thirds of the delegates Smith finishing in a distant second play speaker of the House John Nance Garner who controlled the votes of Texas and California through his support behind Roosevelt after the third ballot and Roosevelt clinched a nomination on the fourth ballot. And his acceptance speech Roosevelt declared, I pledge myself to a new deal for the American people. This is more than a political campaign,
Starting point is 00:44:35 it is a call to arms. Roosevelt promised Curie's regulations, terror production, farm to leave, government funded, public works, otherment government actions to address the Great Depression, which he would follow through through on and then Roosevelt crushed it in the general election He won 57% of the popular vote on carry all but six states and I'd go more in depth than that And I think I will someday in a future suck for FDR He definitely deserves his own on March 4th 1933 Eleanor mother fucking Roosevelt On March 4th, 1933, Eleanor, mother fucking Roosevelt, inaugurated
Starting point is 00:45:05 as the most badass First Lady of the United States of America up until that point in history. Actually, FDR is inaugurated, president, but this is a huge day for Eleanor's own political future as well. Eleanor redefined how a First Lady handled the office before her First Lady was, they wore swimsuits and they were drunk most of the time. That doesn't get talked about a lot.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Now that didn't happen, that's weird. Before Eleanor, first ladies grilled cheeseburgers and farted on the White House land and they flashed their boobs at truckers. So now, no, that's even weirder. Before Eleanor, first ladies hosted parties and that was pretty much it. Since they had a large staff to maintain the house
Starting point is 00:45:39 and it was just kind of on display to the public. And that one actually is correct. Now for the first time, a a first ladies doing more than her You know, wife Lee and motherly duties. She's taken on social projects that supported FDR's new deal She had the support of her predecessors because they had stopped their feminist activities once they became first first ladies She intimidated a lot of DC men, you know They were not always or even often fans of a woman being so evolved in what they consider to be a man's business And they were not used to women speaking her mind the the way Eleanor did. She became known as the
Starting point is 00:46:06 most controversial First Lady United States history. And she also became a beloved by many. In early 1933, the bonus army, as it was known, a protest group of World War I veterans marched on Washington for the second time in two years, calling for the veteran bonus certificates to be awarded early. The previous year, you know, and remember, this is a great depression, they need the money. The previous year, President Herbert Hoover had ordered them to be dispersed
Starting point is 00:46:32 in the U.S. Army cavalry, charged and bombarded the veterans with tear gas. Now, fucked up was that. Attacking veterans, attacking war veterans, who were peacefully protesting to be taken care of after the war. Shit like that makes my blood boil, man. Veterans are the only reason veterans who were peacefully protesting to be taking care of after the war. Shit like that makes my blood boil, man.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Veterans are the only reason any of our lives are worth a shit in this country today. Well no tear gas on Ellie's watch, no sir, no ma'am. This time they were visited by Eleanor, their muddy campsite, listening to their concerns, and singing army songs along with them, the meeting defused the tension between the veterans' administration, allowing them to negotiate. One of the marchers later commented, Hoover sent the army, Roosevelt sent his wife. She stood up for the little guy, even when she didn't agree with all of the little guys' views.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Like in this next situation, one of her main concerns, or main areas of concern, for US labor was minors. They had unionized during the depression, and those who participated in activities were blackballed. From being hired, she proposed a resettlement community in Arthurdale, West Virginia. The idea was that they could make a living by farming, making handicrafts, by working in a local manufacturing plant. She wanted the project to be a model community to have workers care for, and it went along
Starting point is 00:47:36 with FDR's new deal ideals. And so he was all for it. Well initially it didn't work at all. They tried using prefabricated houses, but in 1934, when that didn't work, they tried it again now with every modern convenience. By modern, every modern convenience, I mean indoor plumbing and central steam heating, getting some heat.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Oh, how was that? Man, we take a shipper granted now. Indoor plumbing and heat, can you imagine them without either one of those? Ooh, families occupied the homes in June with 30-year loans. Eleanor wanted a racially mixed community. This is the part where she disagreed with people. She wanted a racially mixed community,
Starting point is 00:48:10 but the miners insisted on it being a white Christian community. They even voted on it. They excluded black and Jewish miners from living there. People are so goddamn ignorant sometimes. Right, the fucking balls on these people. Hell, yes, want to live in a government subsidized mod and home with eating indoor plumbing I sure would like to have a helping hand however I'll keep my dirty starving kids living in the
Starting point is 00:48:32 squalor of a cold cabinet dirty outhouse if it means I don't have to live around the Jews in the Negro's unfuckin believable if it were me I would have been tempted to let them just suffer after voting that down right you want to be ignorant right we're trying to help you. You know, you need money, you're starving. We're offering to help and you're like, I'll accept your help, but only on a couple of conditions. The Jews and Negro don't have to live around me.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Make all fuck yourselves. Just fucking starve then. But I guess, you know, that wouldn't break the cycle of ignorance, you know, and then that would be bad for the kids, you know, they didn't get to vote, you know, they didn't choose to be born in ignorance. Now, Eleanor was much better person I am,
Starting point is 00:49:03 and she was smarter, she wanted to help him anyway. The racism of this event did motivate Eleanor to take a stand on racial equality despite her disappointment in their backwards racial views. She didn't give up on helping this project. She raised money for the community for years, even spent her own money on the project. Both sides of the aisle didn't really like the project. Conservatives called it a socialist and a communist plot. Of course, they did.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Democrats said it put government and competition with private enterprise. Well, okay, yeah, you know, but I don't know if I'd want. I'm so whenever things are to feel a little socialist in communism, I guess I get a little conservative myself. Living in California, do that to me, man, my interactions with the government there. Big government, not a fan, not a fan. It was also expensive, you know, with all these modern memories, amenities like plumbing and heating. It was considered a failure overall because it was very expensive and depending on outside
Starting point is 00:49:53 assistance, you know, but the residents loved it and allowed many of them to re-enter the economy, be self-sufficient, so Eleanor considered success. They would go on to become taxpayers themselves and get back on their faces, That part's good. You know, and she loved seeing the improvements in people's lives. She was, she was an early and powerful advocate for civil rights and racial quality after that event, you know, especially. One of her best friends was Mary McLeod, Bethune. Mary was born from slaves. She was, she worked cotton fields.
Starting point is 00:50:19 She picked 250 pounds a day when she was nine years old in the cotton fields. And she opened her school for black girls in Florida out of a four room cottage in 1904 with only five students initially. Through her tenacity and resourcefulness and fundraising, the school expanded to include 250 students just two years later. School gained a popularity eventually merged with the Cookman Institute for Men in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Deformed Bethune Cookman College in 1923. As its original founder, Bethune served as president of this institution. One of the nation's few colleges opened black students until 1942. With such success, Mary became a leader in the black community and the feminist community. She founded the National Council of Negro Women
Starting point is 00:50:56 in New York in 1935, and Eleanor loved her. And she made sure her husband knew about Mary. There's something about Mary. FDR appointed Mary as director of the division of Negro Affairs of the National Youth Administration, 1936, 1943, where she excelled immensely because of her love of education. And Eleanor and FDR are both strong advocates for education as well. They believed education, you have to empower people for the future. And Beth Hing was right on board without. She was one of FDR's most trusted advisors of the unofficial black cabinet he held.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Mary came to the White House often in Eleanor's same ball-busting attitude. She always insisted Beth Hume sat right next to her, applauding her wisdom and her goodness, Eleanor dedicated a my day column in memoriam to the black educator of the time of the letter's death. 1955, they were true friends to avoid problems with the staff when Bethy would visit the White House. Eleanor would meet her at the gate and brace her, walk with her, arm and arm. Eleanor broke butt-tonner traditions, especially by inviting African-American guests to the White House. She resigned from the daughters of the American Revolution because they denied Mary and Anderson,
Starting point is 00:52:02 a black singer from the use of the Washington Constitution Hall in 1939. She arranged another concert on the steps of Lincoln Memorial and presented her to the King and Queen of England and had her perform at a White House dinner. I fucking love it. She refused to succumb to the ignorance of so many of the peers of her day. Eleanor Lobby behind the scene for the 1934, coast to get in Wagner bill, to make lynching a federal crime, including a range of media between Franklin
Starting point is 00:52:30 and NAACP president Walter Francis White. Fearing he'd lose a lot of votes of the Southern congressional congressional delegations for his legislative agenda, Franklin however did refuse to publicly support the bill, which did prove to be unable to pass in a Senate. As nature politics sometimes, it's gonna compromise your values on some things,
Starting point is 00:52:49 to get other things passed, I guess. Eleanor came out in 1937, publicly condemned lynchings, which was sadly unheard of for her first lady. I really just, you know, white people in general at that time, between 1882 and 1968, more than 3500 African Americans were murdered by lawless white mobs. You probably remember this from the KKK time suck.
Starting point is 00:53:07 There were 28 such murders in 1933 alone. The victims were off in tortured, beaten, burned alive, hanged. Almost no one was arrested or convicted for these crimes. In 1934, Mrs. Roosevelt joined the NAWACP, started working with this leader Walter White to help pass again, federal anti-lynching legislation. This is huge, man. Talking about lynchens as a white person, especially as a white woman, just didn't happen back then.
Starting point is 00:53:28 You know, which was, you know, tragedy, because obviously lynchens were pretty common. And there was zero repercussions, you know, felt usually by the white perpetrators of those crimes. Eleanor gave a lot of fucks. She gave a lot of fucks about civil rights, and she grew so popular among African-Americans, previously a reliable Republican voting block
Starting point is 00:53:43 that they became a consistent base of support for the Democrat party. Eleanor was also a prolific writer, spreading her ideals and print. I referenced that my day column a little bit ago. She started writing a column called My Day in 1935 and kept it until 1962, six days a week. Fuck, man. I thought I was kicking out a lot of content recently. I got nothing on ER.
Starting point is 00:54:03 FYI, there's a link in the show notes on the TimeStuck app to a website that has all of her old MyDay articles archived. Eleanor discussed whatever she felt was important. Race, women, key events, the column gave her a voice to spread her ideas. She was the first first lady to write a newspaper column. What she was doing was truly unprecedented.
Starting point is 00:54:22 No American woman had ever used a media platform in this way before or had access to one. At its height, it was published in 90 papers all over the nation. She also made a money off of her column. Well, she had a crazy inheritance. She also wanted to make her own money for her own independence. She matched FDR's presidential salary of $75,000. Love it.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Not only making as much as a man. She was making as much as the president. She was busy bee. She lectured Shrew making as much as the president. She was busy be she lectured, she wrote for newspapers magazine, she even hosted a weekly radio show, she wanted to say connected to the citizens and to the voters. And she's doing like a thousand times more good each day in the world than either of her parents ever did in their cumulative existences. She hosted a weekly press conference exclusive to women journalists so that they could have big scoops, you know, and get things to report on. She did this because of the time.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Female journalists had a hard time getting hired. And they were the first to be let go because they didn't have anything to write about. They weren't given anything to write about. Eleanor created her women only weekly press conferences so that they would be irreplaceable to newspapers and magazines. I think sometimes certain men get pissed off and stuff like this because it feels unfair. It's like how is it okay to combat men not giving women opportunities and chances by giving chances to women at the expense of men and not giving men those opportunities?
Starting point is 00:55:31 Well because that's the only way these women would ever get chances. Eleanor wasn't trying to put women above men. She was trying to bring them up to an equal place. She also had a very busy travel schedule. She made tons of appearances, labor meetings to assure the workers of the depression, so you know, that they knew that the White House was working for them. Eleanor developed a relationship with the American Youth Congress, leading to the formation of the National Youth Administration, part of the new deal in 1935 that focused on providing
Starting point is 00:55:56 work and education for young Americans between 16 and 25 years old. She cared a lot about the youth of America saying, I live in real terror when I think we may be losing this generation. We have to bring these young people into the active life of the community and make them feel that they are necessary. She was always an FDR's ear about civil rights for races and genders whenever there was a nomination. She always made sure at least one woman was included on the list.
Starting point is 00:56:18 She dealt with a lot of sexism. It was normal at the time, not just from FDR, because when she was trying to make those lists, I guess there was a at the time, not just from FDR, because when she was like trying to make those lists, I guess there was a thing where supposedly he'd always be like, oh God, I thought I had somebody on there already. I must have missed it. I could have sworn, I included a woman. And then he'd fix the problem.
Starting point is 00:56:36 She had to quit many of her endeavors because it brought so much negative publicity that I heard the causes she often worked for. People were mad about her trying to fight for people's rights. Many people not fan to the first lady, having so much influence over the present. Luckily more people didn't have a problem with it. He did win four fucking elections.
Starting point is 00:56:53 She was incredibly active during World War II in the early 40s, during World War II. She traversed the ocean despite Nazi submarines posing a threat to any passenger ship. When she made it across the Atlantic, she was terrified to cross the Atlantic, but she made the trip anyway to speak with Prime Minister Churchill.
Starting point is 00:57:08 She was almost like an ambassador of FDR's policy. She visited the South Pacific as well, earned a trust of the military leadership enough to go to the Guadalcanal. Where active military fighting was still happening when she visited. She visited many active military during the war and listened to their concerns.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Of course, this was met with negativity that she was spending taxpayer money on this trip. Well, you know, actually in truth, more often than not, she's, she funded these trips with her own money. Following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, Roosevelt spoke out against Japanese American prejudice, warning America
Starting point is 00:57:37 against a great hysteria against minority groups. But then when her husband under, you know, a lot of political pressure passed executive order 9066 requiring Japanese Americans and many years of the U.S. to enter kind of a internment camps, she publicly defended the rights of Japanese Americans as widely criticized for it. The Los Angeles Times said that she should be forced to retire from public life over her stand on this issue. That's scary. The press telling someone to shut up for defending the rights of a minority group in the
Starting point is 00:58:04 U.S. A real reminder that you should never feel beholden to the moral laws of your times that you The press telling someone to shut up for defending the rights of a minority group in the US. A real reminder that you should never feel beholden to the moral laws of your times that you live in, right? Follow only the universal moral law of treating others as you yourself would be treated, right? Some golden rule stuff. That's right, Christians. I like a lot of your ethical principles. Give others respect they do as an equal member of the human race. Even if the other members of your day don't want to do that. August, on April 12, 1945, Franklin dies after suffering his cerebral hemorrhage.
Starting point is 00:58:29 He'd been into cliny health since at least 1940. In addition to the polio, he'd been a chain smoker his entire adult life. He had high blood pressure and congestive heart failure. And doctors had been continually removing small metal objects such as little putrefigurines, like the kind of used for like battle recreations, like little scale models things,
Starting point is 00:58:47 from his rectum for years, it's estimated that between four and five pounds of metal was removed from FDR's rectal cavity over the last decade of his life. It's so weird. No one knows how it got in there. There's been no official report ever that White House has never released
Starting point is 00:59:01 any kind of classified documents relating to that. So on March 29th, 1945, Roosevelt, he'd went away to the little White House has never released any kind of classified documents relating to that. So on March 29, 1945, Roosevelt, he had went away to the little White House at Warms Springs, Georgia, his personal retreat to rest before his anticipated appearance at the founding conference of the United Nations. And then on the afternoon of April 12, Roosevelt said, I have a terrific pain in the back of my head. He then slumped forward in his chair on conscious and was carried into his bedroom. The president's attending cardiologist, Dr. Howard Brune, diagnosed a medical emergency as a massive cerebral hemorrhage at 335, excuse me, 335 PM that day, Roosevelt died. His mistress, Lucy Mercer, Rutherford was with him when he died.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Eleanor and FDR's first child, or sorry, just child Anna. She had apparently put together his, you know, final meeting with Lucy, fairly unconventional family dynamics. Either Anna or Lucy apparently hid one of the figurines that fell out, you know, when he passed, fell out of his bottom. And please tell me a few, please tell me a few of you, believe me about the FDR, getting a little metal guy stuck up his ass, pounds of him. That'd make me happier than the old chicken, chicken of the sea lie. The old sea chickens lie.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I pulled off, you know, in the beginning of trying a level of sound. And now he had no metal in his butt. Well, Eleanor did love FDR in her way. She also felt relieved when he died. She finally had a life that didn't revolve around someone else's agenda. Her kids were grown, her youngest was almost 30,
Starting point is 01:00:17 and she could essentially do what she wished. She had money, name recognition, you know, political influence. Yeah, and she just, you know, could do what she wanted. Her kids were a bunch of hot messes. Not entirely unsuccessful. Someone go on to have minor political careers themselves, but they would lead tumultuous lives.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Two of her kids would end up getting married five times each. Fuck, man. Four divorces. I've been to one divorce and I can't imagine going through three more. If for any reason I found myself single again, which I hope I don't, I hope I just remain alone, there's so much good TV, right? So many more causes to work on. Alone is okay, but four divorces, so much pain in the ass, not quite FDR metal figurine
Starting point is 01:00:57 pain in the ass, but so much. You know, another K divers was, you know, there was married four times, another three times, the remaining K deline married twice. Part of this turmoil has to be blamed on Eleanor, you know, she kid of hers was, you know, if there was married four times, another three times, the remaining kid only married twice. Part of this turmoil has to be blamed on Eleanor, you know, she was an amazing woman, not an amazing mom. She let her crazy mother-in-law raise her kids without putting up much of a fight, you know. But again, no, it's perfect. She did more overall good in the world than most amazing parents have ever done. On December 1945, Harry Truman, her hubby successor, you know, appointed her as delegate to the UN General Assembly in
Starting point is 01:01:26 April 1946. She became the first chairperson of the preliminary UN Commission on Human Rights. She basically wrote the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It set out for the first time, fundamental human rights to be universally protected for international citizens. Truman called her the First Lady of the World, in a speech on the night of September 28, 1948, Eleanor spoke in favor of the Declaration calling it the world. In a speech on the night of September 28, 1948, Eleanor spoke in favor of the declaration calling it
Starting point is 01:01:47 the International Magna Carta of all men everywhere. It was adopted by the General Assembly on December 10, 1948. The vote was unanimous with eight abstentions, six Soviet countries, South Africa and Saudi Arabia. They abstained. 48 nations agreed to it. The Soviet countries abstained mostly because of Article 13, which provided the right of citizens to leave their countries, which luckily for us kept people like serial killer Andrei
Starting point is 01:02:13 Chikotilo in Rostov. What a big deal. I want to come to America and say, see, I want to see Stadio Vlirutu, an unrasilated freedom, until coming. I won't see White House. Sex rastole. Capitalists are long. to you, an unrasil-led freedom, until coming. I won't say what else. Sex-rasil, capitalist on loan. I want it to take, wear a star stripe, sweatpants, choke a soft shame-cock, link it to memorial, maybe live in America, maybe open the gymnasium, teach public-thrust
Starting point is 01:02:37 rassling moves to capitalist youth. I bother no one. Eleanor also served at the First United States as the First United States representative of the United Nations Commission on Human Rights stated that position until 1953. Even after stepping down as chair of the Commission in 1951, the UN Post-Humansly awarded her one of its first human rights prizes in 1968 and recognition of her work.
Starting point is 01:02:59 She campaigned against JFK and the primaries for the Democratic ticket, but ultimately he asked when he won for her blessing and she gave it to him, right? She had some, she had some cloud man. She had some cloud even JFK. JFK wanted her approval. 1949, she was made an honorary member
Starting point is 01:03:13 of the historically black organization, Alpha Kappa Alpha. April 1960, she diagnosed with a plastic anemia showed after being struck soon after, being struck by a car in New York City. 1961, President Kennedy's under secretary of labor, Esther Peterson, proposed a new presidential commission on the status of women. Kennedy appointed Roosevelt to chair of that commission with Peterson's director, Tough Lady Man, just getting this position when she's 76 years old, just recently being
Starting point is 01:03:39 hit by a car, she's still working in politics. This would be Roosevelt's last public position, however, she died just before the commission is issued its report. It concluded that female equality was best achieved by recognition of gender differences and needs and not by an equal rights amendment. 1962, she was given steroids and she started a fucking bodybuilding career
Starting point is 01:03:58 and she put up 465 on the bench, 580 on the squat and she put up 700 and fuck a pound on the deadlift, all right? She's goddamn beast. No, they put her steroids because she was sick. She had car crash, car crash injuries. But the steroids activated a dormant case of tuberculosis in her bone marrow. She died as a resulting cardiac failure
Starting point is 01:04:22 at her Manhattan home at 55E 74th Street on the Upper East Side in November 7th 1962 at the age of 78, and ascended directly into Nimrod's eternal and glorious sack of everlasting life, where she now consults both jangles on how to best implement Nimrod's will to the suck faithful. And sometimes he listens, but not always because no one, other than Nimrod, gets to tell both jangles what to do. Not even Eleanor mother fucking rose about Ellen or lived it Camp Bella just outside of Lebec main in Canada towards end of her life
Starting point is 01:04:52 A lot of Canadian listeners. Thank you guys for listening. That's been growing up there. The first place she felt was hers You know, she's finally not overrun by her mother-in-law. Their funeral was attended by three presidents former and present Her funeral was at Hyde Park. She was buried in the garden next to FDR. At services, Adelaide Stevenson said, What other single human being has touched and transformed the existence of so many? Adding, she would rather like to candle than curse the Doctus, and her glow has warmed the world.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And that mother suckers takes us out of this time-subtimeline. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. Wow, pretty epic life, right? Inspiring. She accomplished so much. And she did it as a woman when the deck was so stacked against her. Man, the 19th Amendment, women's suffrage, right? The vote was passed August 18th, 1920. Ellen was 36 at that point. She went 36 years of her life, birthed six children, campaigned vigorously for her husband and her associates
Starting point is 01:05:51 for half of her life before she was even allowed to vote herself. Man, she was way ahead of her time and being a white woman that cared about the rights of minorities. She was born just 20 years after the Civil War. Many people were still alive, they've been born in slavery. You know, she was part of a high society, one of the swells,
Starting point is 01:06:05 which meant she was taught, you know, how to be a wealthy wife and a homemaker. She was raised to make babies. She broke the silent role of wives. She had opinions, she loved learning, being part of the conversation. This was the opposite of what people expected of her. In addition to this, she spoke up for women whenever she could. She never got to see many of the civil rights, you know, initiative she was hoping for, get passed,
Starting point is 01:06:25 but she did live through the Great Depression. She helped end it. She lived through both world wars. She saw the creation of the UN. She wrote the Declaration of Human Rights because she saw what it was like to not have rights. But all of this isn't enough for some people. And those people are called idiots of the internet. It is the internet.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Under a YouTube Eleanor Roosevelt American Experience video published by user Edward G. on the second, an excellent well-produced biodoc user RM Earl's posts would have loaded crap all caps. Lot oflamation points. Why didn't she donate her millions to alleviate the suffering of the poor in her country? So many exclamation and question marks. Typical demo.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I think that's supposed to be typical demo. Typical demo without doubt in a sex manic to boot. A lot of exclamation points. All right, first let's address the sex manic reference. I think it was supposed to be sex maniac. There was a real good chance Eleanor was bisexual, if not just homosexual.
Starting point is 01:07:31 And if you're thinking, but you had all those kids, yeah, gay people have kids all the time. Closeted gay people. Maybe she didn't like sex with FDR because she, because he had the wrong parts she was interested in. There is a book called Eleanor and Hick, the love affair that shaped the first lady, where the author reveals details from more than 3,300 letters that Eleanor and reporter,
Starting point is 01:07:51 Lorena Hickock, exchanged over 30 years. The book quotes one letter in which Eleanor wrote to Hickock, who was openly gay. You know, Lorena was just, oh, how I want to put my arms around you in reality instead of in spirit. I went and kissed your photograph instead and the tears were in my eyes. Please keep your heart and watch as long as I'm here for most of my mind is with you. Okay, so, you know, people didn't speak differently back then, but a lot of letters, a lot of verses like that, a lot of quotes like that. And so she probably did have at least one affair, one romantic affair of her own,
Starting point is 01:08:28 and her marriage of convenience. Not sure that that makes her a sex maniac though. You know, and it was very, very, very hard for homosexuals to come out at that time. And you know, she could have justified it as I will do more good for the nation if I don't, which was true. And also, how dare you fucking criticize her just in general?
Starting point is 01:08:47 How dare you criticize her for helping the poor, you waste a flesh. I googled RM Earls, nothing of significance comes up just like I thought, cause you haven't done anything of significance. How much have you given to the poor? How much exactly? How much exactly do you give to the poor?
Starting point is 01:09:02 What percentage of your paycheck every week? What hours do you volunteer? You know, I'm guessing zero dollars, I'm guessing zero hours. Eleanor dedicated her life to helping the last fortunate and for this shithead, it's not enough. Yeah, but she's still rich. So fucking what?
Starting point is 01:09:15 I always hated when people who do nothing criticize others for not doing enough. Okay, now we have another idiot. User, Carlos Perez, comments, that's a dude. Ha, get it, you guys, get it, get it, gals, get it listeners, because she doesn't look as traditionally feminine as some other women, right? So he's posing a dude kind of, what the fuck? I know a lot of people think this simplistic obvious shit like this is funny, you know, whatever, if you want to laugh. But why are you coming to an Eleanor Roosevelt documentary and leaving this there, right?
Starting point is 01:09:48 Just a troll I guess, you know, much like the previous poster, you know, have fun not amounting to shit in life. Be the guy who just takes cheap shots and makes dumb jokes, you know, about those who significance you're too intellectually incapable of ever understanding. And then we have today's dumbest of the dumb. The real idiot, user, redo, redo lentone, it's just a fucking nonsense, stream of letters, redo lentone, redo lentone, what the fuck and whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And this idiot posts, she, he, like all royal families, so to say, was a high bread spelled as in the bread you eat, not as in BRED, high bread, transexual. Her husband, the tranny too. These people are all positioned like in Hollywood for their missions and what they represent. Like going to the movies and they play their parts well.
Starting point is 01:10:37 It is their job. Ah, wow. I clicked on a red, red, red, red, red, red, red, whatever they'll find out more about them, and they have one video, now what I expected, they didn't upload it, they just subscribed to a playlist of spa-like relaxation music. I don't know, I guess they just need something to take the edge off when they start thinking about the Hollywood elite transsexual royal agenda, and they'll work up.
Starting point is 01:11:00 What a fucking moron at so many levels. First off, Eleanor Roosevelt was not a transsexual. She identified as a woman of her entire life. May have been probably was bisexual or gay, not transsexual. And FDR never identified as anything other than a straight white dude. And there was no legitimate rumors, not even close to legitimate that he was anything other than that. So first off, you just make it up shit. Second, Tranny's an offensive, you know, derogatory term, you know, it's a cheap shot. Throw it around by ignorant bigots, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:29 so you're fucking ignorant. And third, what missions are being carried out? You know, always these attacks and plans and agendas and missions talking about by these people. What are they? What are they being positioned to do? You know, usually this kind of talk leads back to those people who believe in demons and devils
Starting point is 01:11:46 and Satan, you know, fucking up with our lives still. People know it's no smarter than the European peasants of the Dark Ages. You know, just backward, uneducated, anti-intellectual, drivel. Willfully ignorant. You know, all these Capitol Hill and Hollywood elite illuminati puppets, you know, that's how they got to be famous. They sold their souls. That's how, that's how the Rockefellans and the Rosalinds made the fortunes by sounding secret devil packs would evil do us. No, no, you fucking dummy.
Starting point is 01:12:14 They got it because their family trees had shinier apples than yours did, you know. The ancestors were given more opportunities. Maybe capitalized out opportunities better than yours did. You know, life isn't fair. Yeah, some people end up with more money than other people. And some people, you know, do nefarious things to hold on to that money for sure, but it's not part of like secret agendas. You know, maybe yeah, they make packs with people, you know, like do a political. You do this political for it favor for me and help my company and I'll give you money.
Starting point is 01:12:39 I believe in bribes. I believe in self-like debt. I don't believe in devil packs. I don't believe in stars selling out their souls. Maybe they just work really hard like thousands of other actors. Maybe they do some shady things to get a couple nice, lucky breaks along the way. And then they're smart enough and talented enough usually to capitalize on them. They're not as fucking putting on hoods and doing chance and shit.
Starting point is 01:13:01 What the fuck? World is not full of all these crazy secrets. It is full of it into the internet, however, and we will continue to mock them, rather than ignore them and tacitly embrace their wanton ignorance. I'm not a genius, not even close. You've heard enough of my fuck ups, know that by now, but at least unlike user redone with a tone
Starting point is 01:13:19 in wherever the hell, I'm not trying actively to be an idiot of the internet. It is an internet. So, Eleanor Roosevelt, what a bright shining light she was, man. Not perfect, we humans never are, you know, but so inspiring. You could have so easily followed in the footsteps of her parents and the footsteps of so many of her other relatives and just lived a life of decadence and a leisure, getting fucked up on champagne every day, traipsing around Europe,
Starting point is 01:13:47 galloping around the world like a, like a dandelion swell. But she didn't, she fought for social justice. Love how, love how and so many of you as mine as social justice warrior is a derogatory title, by the way too. Just how dare you try and make the world a better place, how dare you try and evolve. She fought for women's rights,
Starting point is 01:14:02 she fought for the rights minorities in the poor, she fought for veterans, she seemed consistently really when it came to public policy and politics to do what was right, regardless of what the people thought about her. Man for a kid who was taunted for being unattractive, she sure turned out to be a truly beautiful soul. And let's take another look back at this beautiful soul with some top five takeaways. 5 Takeaways Number 1. Eleanor Roosevelt lost both her parents.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Neither who were very good at parenting early in life and was surrounded by people more than happy to do as little as humanly possible to help others to the family's money and connections. And she decided to do arguably more for others than any other woman of her lifetime. Number 2. FDR and Eleanor remained married until death did them apart, but both may have very well had life long affairs. Heroes can be just as complicated as a rest of us.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Number three, Eleanor redefined what it means to be a first lady, not content to be essentially a dinner party hostess and party planner. She communicated more with the general public and left a greater political legacy as a first lady than many actual presidents have done in my opinion. Number 4.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Eleanor was tormented by the mother-in-law from hell for all but the last four years of her marriage. Note to all moms, cut the fucking cord. Let your kids be autonomous adults. And if you do happen to live in the same house as them, let them run their own family. You already had your crack at that. If you blew it the first time around, well, tough shit. Number five, new info.
Starting point is 01:15:28 New info for today is some of my favorite Eleanor Roosevelt quotes. Here is the first. Do what you feel in your heart to be right. For you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do and damned if you don't. How true is that, man? I know that firsthand.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Doesn't matter what stance you take on issues. It's just gonna fucking piss someone off. So you better take the one you truly believe in. How about this one? Courage is more exhilarating than fear in the long run, it is easier. We do not have to become heroes overnight, just a step at a time.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Meeting each thing that comes up, seeing it is not as dreadful as it appeared, discovering we have the strength to stare it down. Ah, I love that one. Man, yeah, it courage doesn't have to be some, you know, just giant immediate act. You can just be trying to, you know, make yourself a little better, like we time suckers do.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Week to week. Here's a great one about religion and nationalism. The important thing is neither your nationality, nor the religion you professed, but how your faith translated itself in your life. Acts not words, man, I love that. Deeds, not talk.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And this last one reminds me of my favorite quote of all time. She says, my greatest fear has always been that I would be afraid, afraid physically, or mentally, or morally, and allow myself to be influenced by fear instead of by my honest convictions. That reminds me of that great lyric from that Rage Against the Machine song, Viet Now. Just fear is your only God that has my favorite quote ever. Just fear is your, fear is your, fear is your only God. Fear is your, fear is your, fear is your only God. Yeah, I can see
Starting point is 01:17:07 in other people's music shittily. You don't always get McDonald's sometimes you get a little dailer-roaded time. Shut up. Five take away. Episode 66. Second last show 2017. Done and done. Christmas show is the last one I need to check off the list. Hope you enjoyed this one. I did. I needed it. I needed some light and inspiration, man,
Starting point is 01:17:28 in these dark winter of ours. If you don't already, listen to the Time Suck, on the new Time Suck app, man, the contact to show button that's been on the mobile website and the website is being added to the app today. So, you know, it's been submitted to the update gods and likely will be there by the time you hear this podcast. The bit of licks or dudes troubleshooting right now. So, you can send in topic requests and updates via the app continuing to make things easier,
Starting point is 01:17:53 working hard always on all this stuff. Always if you don't see the new episodes show up. Oh yeah, I wanted to also this is somebody sent this in, great update. Refresh, you can refresh the app feedback by you just pull down on the episode list. You know, like you thumb it down and it sends a little spinny wheel and then the new episode show up. Just refresh is the same way most podcasts apps that I have used refresh. So if it's in the system it'll pop up when you do that. Thanks again for rating the app, everyone who has done so in the Apple and Google Play stores, really appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Ratings everywhere. Anywhere you listen to podcasts, if you can rate it, please do so. It helps so much. Over 2100 ratings for the show on iTunes that is helping to spread the suck in ways you probably don't even realize, gotta figure out the options for the next bonus suck soon. January 5th will be bonus suck 15, right? More merch getting restocked this week. You know, I did it as fast as I could, pushed everybody to get it in there as fast as possible. Hoties and pullovers are in, and they're flying off I could, pushed everybody to get in there as fast as possible.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Hoodies and pullovers are in, and they're flying off the shelves, especially the hoodies, man. And they look fucking good. I can't wait to get mine. I don't even got my hands on them yet. You know, so get that 400% cold to the curious Arctic Fox tail hoodie.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I know sometimes again, I say, you know, I say Arctic, it's supposed to be Arctic. They're available now as is the green space lizard cold to the curious. 605%, humming bird tail feather pullover, and the red man's 251% domestic, starved, elderly, mole skin, hailed Nimrod shirt is in. Hoping that the men's and women's
Starting point is 01:19:16 called to the curious shirts will hit the store very early this week. I think they're all printed. I'm pretty sure they are now, and I think they're just heading over to my merch store down there in Orlando, Florida. And the women's red hailed Nimrod teas are in that process also.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Her danger brain had the colors dialed in now, and I like that they want it perfect, so hailed Nimrod. And all the other shirts, the first four shirts, also heading to my merch store today. That is what, that is the last info, the most recent info I had. So hopefully everything, and every size will be in stock and available for purchase.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Sometimes this week, hopefully, earlier than later, maybe even as early as Tuesday. Recorder this one in the suck dungeon today, man, in the suck house. Just didn't use all the new equipment because my audio engineer is not here, and I don't know how. So we set up, and I don't know how to do it yet.
Starting point is 01:20:06 So hopefully next Monday's episode, the Christmas suck will be the first time using all the brand new toys. I will say, man, it's so much easier to record here than any other place I've recorded. Still don't have all the time suck episodes up on YouTube. Problem is just, again, Wi-Fi uploads speed, mother fucker. I have business class Wi-Fi now
Starting point is 01:20:21 and it just still takes an hour or more to upload each one of those fuckers. But cranking away, marching ever forward, special thanks to time-sluckers and I am my sister Donna Hale. Everyone else who suggested this topic, including both jangles, very own research intern, Maddie Teeter. The first one, there's definitely helped research the show.
Starting point is 01:20:41 She's the first one going to get college credits, it's coming semester. And she killed a man. She killed him. We went back and forth a lot. She's the first one to get college credits is coming semester. And she killed a man. She killed him. I'm back and forth a lot. She's just getting better and better research. I appreciate it so much. And her research this week really saved my ass during such a fucking busy week, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Two episodes, so much travel, driving through snowstorms, doing a ton of shows. Oh man, you know, like this past Saturday, I did two stand-up shows in an autism benefit before that. My god, by the way, I gotta do an autism, autism, excuse me, times like, I'm not joking, pretty sure I'm on the spectrum, like very, very pretty sure. Every time I look at those things,
Starting point is 01:21:15 I'm like, fuck, I got that, I got that, I get that, I make noises, I understand that, I focus on things, I fixate on things, I have some weird social issues. Thanks to Sydney Shies for killing on social media, Harmony Valencamp for all her kick ass positive energy help on social media as well. Thanks to Jesse Dobner for crushing it again with editing. Ah, thanks to all of you who wrote in this past week,
Starting point is 01:21:35 every email appreciated. This Monday, time sucks 67, a Christmas day suck. You know, at a hard time was deciding what to do and I kept changing my mind. We're gonna dive into Einstein, old Albert, Albert Einstein. I believe he'll be our first Jewish subject, long overdue. And I wanna do it, because almost I know about this guy, is that he's a genius.
Starting point is 01:21:55 But I don't know why. Obviously I've heard about him. I know the picture of him that is on a bunch of posters looks like, but I don't know what EM equals EM squared. EMC squared means, I don't remember that, but I know it's related to him. I think I'm pretty sure he was bad at math in school when he was young or something, something about being bad in school, and then he got better.
Starting point is 01:22:12 I want to find out, and we're going to. Sorry, you murder lovers. I just can't do a murder suck on Christmas. It doesn't feel right to me. So let's get smart. Let's get inspired. Let's get Einstein and then, yeah, to kick off the new year, I promise. We'll get plenty of darkness in. And now is time for some time-soaker updates.
Starting point is 01:22:38 First update, little shout out to time-soaker John Porter. His wife and reporter wrote in, telling me what a huge fan of the show that he is. Thank you, John. And I appreciate it. I appreciate both of you. I appreciate all you time, suckers. Hail Nimrod. You keep on sucking.
Starting point is 01:22:51 You keep on trucking and sucking. And fucking, that's what you want. Next update comes in from Michigan, sucker, Timothy, Womoth. Womph, no, Womphop, I think. Who says, dear King Cummins, magnificent. You mentioned in Grand Rapids a possible lifetime, suck in February, what is happening with that
Starting point is 01:23:06 and what would the dates be? Might catch you in Detroit for the swap cast as well. Fuck yeah. Also, Hercules. Nah, damn it. Not a biblical figure, even though he's obviously buried in a shaft on Oak Island. Samson would be the biblical strong man.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Keep on sucking. Okay, so regarding the Grand Rapids suck, I apparently jumped to gun. I just get so excited. I get so regarding the Grand Rapids suck, I apparently jumped to gun. I just get so excited. I get so excited when I hear things, and I shouldn't have said that I was gonna do it, I was gonna pair it with a Detroit show. I thought that's what were gonna happen,
Starting point is 01:23:33 and I should have spoke with my agent first. I don't always understand the business as well as I think I do. It is gonna happen a live time-sucking Grand Rapids. I will make sure of that, and it is gonna happen just next year. I just don't have the date yet. And there's always more to work out with that stuff than I realize.
Starting point is 01:23:49 So I apologize for saying what I thought that would be. I should keep things quiet. I'm the worst secret keeper. I'm the worst. I'm the worst surprise keeper. I just get so excited. I get like a little kid and I just want to tell everybody. And then I have, then I realize that I've jumped again.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Trying to figure out dates for that. Yeah, trying to figure out dates.. Trying to figure out dates for that. Yeah, trying to figure out dates. Also trying to figure out dates for Madison was constant for a lifetime, time suck there. I really want to do one there now. And I do have a one-in-spot can coming up. I'll announce that date. It'll be months out, like six months out.
Starting point is 01:24:15 But I get in it together, thinking in my brain muscle about how I'm gonna present the information going forward and build basically a new show and try and make it very entertaining. And yeah, and regarding Hercules, damn it, I fucked up, yes I fucked up. Yes, of course, Samson is the biblical strong man. And I knew that.
Starting point is 01:24:33 I had these tight, what easy change to the pillars and he fucking pushes them down all that stuff. I know I've read that story several times. I got my old time strong men confused, so I'm sorry. I will stop the skulls of several Cocker Spaniards, Cocker Spaniards puppies, to please Nimrod for my trans-reaction, you know, a piece him. Another message from the Oak Island Suck
Starting point is 01:24:53 from James Pitt, he says, thank you for your input on reality shows during the Oak Island time suck as law enforcement officers. We often talk about the reality shows about guns and how embarrassing it is to watch the family from American guns. For one, the daughter is dressed like Daisy Duke overdosed on the silicone and borderline flirts
Starting point is 01:25:12 with her brother. And I know, I worked on other shows where it's like, they purposely will always cast like a hot girl. Like so intentional or if there's someone basically related, they're like, she's like in real life. I don't know this show, but I worked on other shows with a like, you know, worked on this show called Porter Ridge. And this guy's, you know, working at a junkyard.
Starting point is 01:25:31 And we had this character, this girl, who was just super hot. And in real life, she didn't have really shit to do with the place. We, they made her like a prominent figure and acted like, you know, she was there around all the time as an excuse for eye candy. That's not for sure. It happens. So you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Okay, back to your email. Then we notice in one episode where they do a slow motion shot of a bullet from a 30 caliber rifle hitting a bottle of champagne. While the bottle shattered, we noticed that the bullet bounced off of the bottle, not even breaking the paper label attached, instant fury at the lie.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Then on the other show, Sons of guns, the father daughter, and I don't watch that one either. The father daughter owners weren't even allowed to sell guns in their shop because an ATF raid discovered multiple weapons, missing. The employees on that show were the actual owners, but Discovery had a contract and they all had to play a part.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Oh yeah, and the dad was a fucking incestuous childmolester. What? Okay, so I haven't researched that. So I'm saying that, but if you'll have to look into that yourselves, this is from James. I don't know about that, but that's crazy. That's true. Head to vent to you because it sounds like you get it.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Yeah, it's fortunate I do on the reality stuff stuff. Hail Nimrod and I'll praise you, clerk of jangles, may you show us the path to our own third leg. Thank you, James, much respect for you and your fellow officers, man, without police officers, the men and women of the law, we devolve into anarchy. Whenever people just talk shit about the police in general,
Starting point is 01:26:49 if I can make me mad, I think, yeah, of course, yeah, some officers dick, some of them have done bad things. So has people from every fucking profession, right? Stop generalizing, you know, most are good people keeping your ass safe. You hate cops, you wish they weren't around. Think about that, next time someone breaks into your goddamn home, tries car jacking, your wife's SUV.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Don't call the police, man. You don't want them around, you just deal with that shit yourself. Finally, one last one from sucker Julie Bennett regarding pizza gate, dear Lord Reverend Suckington. First off, thank you for your amazing podcast. Thank you for saying that. My boyfriend and I finally found a podcast
Starting point is 01:27:21 that we both love and we are dedicated members of the Cult of the Curious. We can't wait to be space lizards. Second to start off, I want to say I completely agree with you about pizza gate. This is not a message to tell you how wrong you are. It's a classic, itted to the internet conspiracy. However, a child's second sex ring associated with the government is not, unfortunately, basically like, you know, just theoretical.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I would suggest that you look into the Franklin Credit Union scandal. If you have not already, it is very sad and very hard to read about, but there are many victims who have come out about it and has been swept under the rug very well due to the fact that those victims have been made to look insane. Just something I figured you would appreciate looking into. Keep it the amazing word. Keep defending your loyal subjects from Luciferia and keep on sucking, Julie. Well, Julie, first off, thank you for writing in. Now, however, hopefully this isn't going to piss you off. And again, I wasn't there. I can't know for certain, but I'm going to have to disagree
Starting point is 01:28:12 about the Franklin Credit Union scandal. I did look into it. I have looked into it in the past. I have heard about it before. And I would just urge you to listen or relic and to the Mandela Effect episode, the Times Act 31, where I really try to break down false memory syndrome, and I talk in depth
Starting point is 01:28:28 about the 80s satanic pedophile scares, to swap the nation and put a lot of innocent people in jail. Federal grand jury did conclude that the Franklin abuse allegations were unfounded, and they indicted 21-year-old Alicia Owen and alleged victim on eight counts of perjury. Same grand jury also undied multiple officers at the credit union including King
Starting point is 01:28:47 for somebody who started and get that, several, they undied multiple people for crimes related to the investment of funds from the credit union. Alicia Owen served four and a half years in prison and it's not easy. You don't hear about that often, you go into prison for years
Starting point is 01:29:02 because of false accusations. Now these accusations, yeah, again, I have looked into them. They included shit, and this is why I personally think it is made up, is because they included stuff like satanic orgies, ritual sacrifice, cannibalism of children. Now, look up the McMartin Preschool trial from the 80s. Same shit, outlandish over the top accusations made by frankly paranoid religious fanatics who still worrying about
Starting point is 01:29:29 devil worshippers, you know, getting their kids. People still mentally and emotionally living in the dark ages. And a lot of innocent people's lives were utterly destroyed. People went to prison for being convicted of basically being satanic, you know, pedophiles. And it turns out the whole thing was just bullshit. It was leading question thrown in by investigators.
Starting point is 01:29:48 It was people who worked this stuff up in their heads. And by the time they realized it was all nonsense, too late for a lot of people. While these people had been in prison for years as satanic pedophiles, which is like the worst thing you could be in prison for. Their businesses were gone. Yeah, just destroy it. Just destroy it. There is real shit going on with politicians.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I mean, look at all of today's sex scandals, man. On both sides of the aisle, Democrat and Republican. Look at all the people going down. I just don't think it's out loud. It's like cartoonish scandals involving the devil, and cannibalism. It's due to abusing positions of power, like so many pedophile priests,
Starting point is 01:30:17 did with the Catholic stuff years ago. Or like so many female teachers apparently have done lately. Cornie told articles I've read. That's the kind of shit we need to look out for. The stuff is right there in front of us. I think sometimes we worry about these like closets, satanic pedophile type of evil rings. And then it turns out to be your neighbor.
Starting point is 01:30:38 That's the one who's been doing it. The one that seems friendly and dressed as well and seems socially well adjusted. So okay, sorry to be a buzzkill. And again, I wasn't there, Julie. I just, you know, I dig. I report on what I find that is my take. If you do have more info that is not readily available
Starting point is 01:30:51 on the web that really convinced you otherwise, please send it to me. I really would truly love to see it. That would be a great update. That would definitely possibly inspire me to do an entire episode about that scandal. And I will happily, you know, eat my words. I guess maybe not happily,
Starting point is 01:31:04 because that would be sad if it's really happened. But I will eat my words, you know, as I do on the show from time to time, you know, probably fairly often. And, uh, yeah, and thank you. Next time, suckers, I need a net. We all did. So that's all for today, almost all for the year. Hope you've had an amazing holiday season so far. Happy Hanukkah, you know, Merry Christmas. Happy whatever else, you know, maybe celebrated. Go out there and do something good for the world. You even know if it's little. Courage doesn't have to be huge.
Starting point is 01:31:33 And I'll talk to you fucking suckers on Christmas. Keep on stockin'. Thank you.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.