Timesuck with Dan Cummins - BONUS 13 - Unit 731: Japan's Evil Experiments

Episode Date: November 24, 2017

What is Unit 731? It was one of Japan's WWII era medical research centers where doctors performed horrific experiments on prisoners, gruesomely torturing and killing human lab rats in order to improve... biological, gas, chemical, and other weapons. Prisoners were infected with the bubonic plague, syphilis, cholera, and other diseases. Prisoners were raped, beaten, frozen, and even trapped in pressurized chambers where they bled out from their pores. “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” - George Santayana Let us never repeat what happened in Unit 731. A dark bonus topic this Thanksgiving week. Be thankful you weren't a part of this experiment. Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG, @timesuckpodcast on Twitter, and www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast Email Jesse Dobner for all your editing needs! jessedobner@outlook.com Want to donate to a great organization helping the Lakota people of the Pine Ridge American Indian reservation? Go here!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Those who failed to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Most of the internet, and most of the world seems to believe that Sir Winston Churchill came up with that famous quote, he did not. The phrase was actually, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it, and it was 20th century Spanish American philosopher George Santillana who wrote it and said it. The quote also shows up as, the one who does not remember history is bound to live through it again on a plaque that has been translated from Polish to English at the Oswitch concentration camp in Poland. And as those who do not
Starting point is 00:00:37 learn from history are doomed to repeat it on a veteran's memorial plaque in Rome, Texas. Pretty ironic that a quote about not remembering the past is chronically misattributed and misquoted. Good example of how fragile the past and our memory of it truly is. It's so easy to forget, so easy to only half remember, so easy to intentionally purge the memories of events and deeds that don't add evidence to the narrative that we're a good person, that we don't commit horrible acts, or condone them, or enable them by not doing anything to stop them. Today we take a deep dive into a subject Japan's government and its people tried so very hard to forget, a horrific tragedy that nearly was buried and forgotten.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Eye witnesses were killed, documentation burned, acknowledgement, and admittance of wrongdoing refused. Japan, who itself had been the victim of unspeakable World War II tragedy, with the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, amongst other atrocities, had been committing savage acts of its own. Wars fucking ugly, it's violent and brutal by nature, but even in war, you can take things too far. Beyond the limit of any sort of moral justification whatsoever, the Holocaust is a great example of crossing this line.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And today's topic, Unit 731, is another. I know all these episodes are inappropriate to a certain degree, but like Episode 57, the Butcher of Rostov, Andrej Cicatilo, this one is especially gruesome. As in, it's hard to get more gruesome than this one. So get out now if occasional graphic descriptions of extreme human suffering is just not something you want floating around in your noggin. Still in?
Starting point is 00:02:18 All right, we'll then get ready for today's tragic, vile, horrific, and I think important edition of TimeSuck. Welcome to TimeSuck TimeSuckers. Hello fellow members of the Cult of the Curious, Omdan Cummins, and this is the 1300 iTunes Review Bonus Edition episode of Time Suck. Hope you had a good Thanksgiving. Be thankful that Unit 731 is still not operating. If you can't think of anything else to be thankful for this thing Thanksgiving season. Thanks for all the iTunes and Facebook reviews this past week. Thanks for following the suck
Starting point is 00:02:59 on social media. Special thanks to Super Sucker, Harmony Velocamp, for taking it upon herself to open and manage some new social media sites for Time Suckers. She runs at Secret Space Lizards on Instagram and Facebook, and I believe SnapTed as well. I don't have SnapChat yet. So I'll get that eventually. And yeah, and she's doing all that, all that herself spread in the suck.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm thankful for having people like Harmony, behind Time Suck, I'm thankful for having an amazing family, this, who I love dearly and are so supportive. And I'm also truly thankful for all you time suckers out there, constantly offering your time and talents, constantly spreading the suck. You're recording this couple days before Thanksgiving. If you're like Thanksgiving's already over,
Starting point is 00:03:38 well, I'm thankful now. And even if I was recording this actually on Friday, I'd still be thankful. Thanks to those of you who followed the show on Instagram, at times, at podcasts, and those of you who signed up for the app beta test on Monday. Sorry to those of you who didn't get in, I didn't announce it on this show
Starting point is 00:03:54 because Biddelixer, the app design guys, they only needed about 50 testers. I think they ended up getting several hundred responses, and that was just from a quick Instagram post, kind of right away. And so thank you guys for being so quick to jump on that. And now, you know, you guys can help debug this new phase one of the new app
Starting point is 00:04:13 and get it ready for everybody on December 4th. I'm feeling pretty confident that's gonna happen. And again, that release will just be the first basic version. It's gonna have a player, a couple of fun little things, no space lizard stuff, quite yet. That'll be coming though. That's already being designed as well. Huge thank you to Tom and Dan, man.
Starting point is 00:04:29 From the awesome podcast, A Mediocre Time with Tom and Dan, I was just thinking about them the past few days. These are the guys who encouraged me to do this podcast in the first place. They encouraged me to start making merch, told me what recording equipment to use, told me to develop an app, told me to work with Danger Brain for all my merch,
Starting point is 00:04:43 you know, and it's branding. If this podcast becomes the foundation of my future career, fueling my standup and everything else, which it could, if it continues to become this cult of the Curious Clubhouse slash tribe we're developing, I have them to thank. They kicked it off by encouraging me so early on before it was even a thing at all. Now, if this implodes and eventually ruins me and burns me out and takes down my career, those are the first two motherfuckers I'm gonna murder.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So, Tom and Dan, heroes, possible future murder victims. Seriously though, as the app released draws near as danger brain design merch gets ready to come out, I just think about those guys, you know, getting me going and help me along the way of ton. They are podcast OGs and they're amazing. Also, time suckers on Spotify, if you didn't see that on Instagram, currently it's only on the Spotify app,
Starting point is 00:05:30 not the desktop version, not sure how those decisions are made. For some reason, it only shows up when you search for it, but dammit, it is there. And I'm looking into how to get it more visibility and show up in the proper categories and all that kind of stuff. But it's there, it's there. So if you're a Spotify user, I know that's the main place I was not on that people wanted me to be on.
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Starting point is 00:07:22 So much more. Please come support me. Get those tickets. I'll be working on a bunch of new material to those shows. And now, let us get really, really black, this black Friday, real dark, with some unit 731. Okay, so before we dig into the, how in the shit did unit 731 even come about? Let's dig into the, what the hell it was.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Before TimeSuck came along, New TimeSuckers started sending me your topic requests. So many of which are dark, you love the taboo as much as I do. I, to the best of my memory had never heard of Unit 731. I actually think Wikipedia gives the best, kind of best basic summary of what Unit 731 was. Incidentally, I do think that's what Wikipedia does best, basic summary of what Unit 731 was. Incidentally, I do think that's what Wikipedia does best, basic summaries.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I don't think you should ever use it as a primary source for any sort of research, but it's a wonderful place to get an initial feel for a subject. And then from there, you can usually find academic papers, research books, other footnotes, articles, first hand interviews, et cetera. A lot of them are footnoted in the Wikipedia, if you just, you know, the seals will numbers
Starting point is 00:08:24 and click down to the bottom and go to those links. And here's what the free online user edited in Cyclopedia has to say. Unit 731 is a group of 700 and 31 units, a unit being defined as an individual thing or person regarded as a single and complete, a single and complete, but which can also form an individual component of a larger or more complex hole. And so when all 731 units joined together, they formed Voltron, Defender of the Universe, a mighty robot loved by good, feared by evil. No, no, that's not what unit 731 was at all sadly.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That was just a random part of my childhood. That was just Voltron. It's the fucking worst is what it is actually. Here's the real Wikipedia summary. Unit 731 was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that undertook lethal human experimentation during the second Sino-Japanese War from 1937, 1945. It was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes carried out by Imperial Japan. Unit 731 was based at the Pingfang District of Harbin, the largest city in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo, now north east, excuse me, China.
Starting point is 00:09:37 It was officially known as the Epidemic Prevention and War Purification Department of the Kwan Tong. Army of the Kwan Tong Army originally set up under the Kempei Thai military police of the Empire of Japan, Unit 731 was taken over and commanded until the end of the war by General Shiro Ishi, a combat medic officer in the Kwan Tong Army. The facility itself was built between 1934 and 1939 and officially adopted the name Unit 731 in 1941. And at least 3,000 men, women and children from which at least 600 every year were provided by the Kempai Thai, Japanese Imperial Army Police, were designated as logs. Yeah, that's the term Unit 731 used for experimental subjects. They weren't people.
Starting point is 00:10:20 They were logs to be chopped down, burned, used, however they stopped fit for the greater glory of Japan. Oh, and by the way, the quick note before I finished the Wikipedia thing, General Shiro Ishi did kind of he started unit 731. So he didn't come in. That was I think Wikipedia at that wrong. But anyway, going everything else seems to be legit based on all the other stuff I read. And these 3000 logs were subjected to unholy experimentation conducted at Unit 731 at the base at the camp based in Ping Feng. Other logs were tortured at other medical experimentation sites such as Unit 100. And there were lots of other sites. Unit 731 participants who survived the war, a test that most of the victims they experimented on were Chinese while a small percentage were Soviet,
Starting point is 00:11:03 Mongolian, Korean, and other allied POWs, including British and American soldiers. The unit received generous support from the Japanese government up to the end of the war in 1945, and then at the war's end, instead of being tried for war crimes after the war, the researchers involved in Unit 731 were secretly given immunity by the United States government. In exchange for the data they gathered through human experimentation. Man, talk about a deal with the fucking devil. Americans did not try the researchers so that the information and experience gained in bio weapons could be co-opted into the US biological warfare program. As it happened with Nazi researchers, not see researchers in operation paperclip. Yeah, man, operation paperclip.
Starting point is 00:11:45 That is another dark topic, especially about the history of the US that we could explore down the road if the will of the cold to the curious calls for it. Lucaphina loves shit like operation paperclip in today's episode. Make sure positively giddy with evil joy. Yeah, man, the US has its own terrible history of biological weapons manufacturing and also of disgusting medical experiments on innocent people. See the Tuskegee syphilis experiments for that one. Not as bad as what we're gonna talk about today, but still very, very, very bad. Back to Wikipedia, on May 6, 1947, Douglas
Starting point is 00:12:15 MacArthur, a Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, wrote to Washington that additional data, possibly some statements from E.C. probably can be obtained. By informing Japanese involved, that information will be retained in intelligence channels and will not be employed as war crimes' evidence. Victim accounts were then largely ignored or dismissed in the West as communist propaganda. So the deals were made. The monsters were allowed to go about their lives when the war was over. They were still allowed to practice medicine, which is beyond insane once you hear about
Starting point is 00:12:46 what they actually did. So that's a quick overview. Now let's get into the history in a lot more depth and detail. Let's suck into this episode, starting off with a time suck timeline. June 17, 1925. down a time to suck the timeline. chemicals, gases, diseases to kill innocent men, women, children, along with enemy soldiers in a war crime, or war time, or any kind of any kind of time situation. At the end of World War I, the victorious allies decided to reaffirm the Versailles tree of 1919, uphold the pre-war prohibition of the use of poisonous gases.
Starting point is 00:13:39 No gas in people. Shootin' can't be avoided. Stabbing? Yeah, it's gonna happen sometimes. Bombing, of course, lot of bombing. Nukes, what are those? Poking people to death with tiny sharp sticks. Not advisable, questionable in its effectiveness,
Starting point is 00:13:52 but if you can pull it off, what, you know, more power to you. But no gasping enough with the gas already. It's not decent. We're trying to kill each other, but in an orderly manner. Drawing a pint in the language of these former peace treaties, the United States, at the Washington Disarmament,
Starting point is 00:14:09 disarmament, conference of 1922, took the initiative of introducing a similar provision into a treaty on submarines and noxious gases. The US Senate gave its advice and consent to ratification of this treaty without a dissenting vote. It never entered into force, however, since French ratification was necessary, and France objected to the submarine provisions. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I guess France, France, was just like, but we like the submarines very, very much. We like how they go under the water and they're quite sneaky. We, if you cannot stop our submarines, then that is your problem. We are not getting rid of them. In France, we care about our wine, we care about our cheese, and we care about our submarines. It is every French citizen's dream to enjoy a fine cabal neige 7, with some lightly aged breed, 50 meters below the ocean surface. How will we produce a Jacozo with no submarines? I feel like my French accent got a little better to win on, How would we produce Jacosol with no submarines? Ugh. Ah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I feel like my friend Jackson got a little better as it went on, but I know it was still shit. I have no idea why France was so adamant about submarines, actually. Not important to today's narrative, so I didn't really spend an hour or two trying to figure that they held out, but they were like, that's where they drew the line.
Starting point is 00:15:20 So that one never went into effect. And then at the 1929, excuse me, 1925, Geneva Conference for the supervision of international traffic in arms, the US took an initiative of seeking to prohibit the export of gases for use and war. At French suggestion, it was decided to draw up a protocol on non-use of poisonous gases and that the suggestion of Poland, the prohibition was extended to bacteria-logical weapons. Now Polish people have long-hated bacteria-logical weapons. They historically hate bacteria, just kind of periods, and genetically they are unable to
Starting point is 00:15:53 defend themselves from bacterial infections. People who are genetically purely Polish, lack the enzyme needed to fight off bacteria. That's why Polish people get sick a lot. That's why a lot of Polish people look very sickly. However, they do have four times the amount of enzymes a person needs to blow the fucking roof off a polkao down. And they have 10 times the enzymes required to play a fucking accordion.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Oh, they can tear that shit up. It's in their blood. I didn't realize any of that until recently when I just made it all up. And if you're like, if you're Polish and you're like, hey, fucking, what the fuck you for calling a sickly? My wife's Polish. That's why I like to it all up. And if you're like, if you're like, if you're Polish and you're like, hey, fucking what have fucking you for calling us sickly? And my wife's Polish. So I like to take shots sometimes.
Starting point is 00:16:28 But the US, French, and Poles did help put together this for Polish. I should actually correct myself. She's half Polish. So she's half sickly. Zing, another one. I never say Zing, why did I just do that? I just, I said Zing, and then as it came out of my mouth,
Starting point is 00:16:42 I was like, shut the, what are you doing? Who's, that's, no one says that anymore. Anyway, signed on June 17th, 1925, the Geneva Protocol thus restated the prohibition previously laid down by the Versailles and washed in trees and added a ban on bacteriological warfare. No gases, no disease, is dammit, fight fair. Before World War II, this protocol was ratified by many countries including all the great powers of the world except interesting for today, the US and Japan. Crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:17:10 In the end, we were just like, you know what? On second thought, we may want to gas the rest of you fuckers. So we're going to hold off on the sign-in for the time being. When they ratified or aceded to the protocol, some nations, including the UK, France, and the USSR, declared that it would cease to be binding on them if their enemies or the allies of their enemies failed to respect the prohibitions of the protocol. Although Italy was party to the protocol, it used poison gas in the Ethiopian war. Nevertheless, the protocol was generally observed in World War II. But yeah, but a lot of people, even the ones that signed it, were like, we're not gonna use them.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Unless someone uses them on us, they were gonna fucking use the shoot out of them. Referring to reports that the Axis powers were considering the use of gas since they didn't sign it, we're like, we're not going to use them. Unless someone uses them on us, they're going to fucking use the shit out of them. Referring to reports that the Axis powers were considering the use of gas since they didn't sign it, President Roosevelt said on June 8, 1943, use of such weapons has been outlawed by the general opinion of civilized mankind. This country is not used them, and I hope that we never will be compelled to use them. I state categorically that we shall under no circumstances resort to the use of such weapons, unless they are first used by our enemies. And then behind closed doors, after a few drinks, FDR added, at least in my head, if the God damn Germans make one more crack about my wheelchair, all gas and poison every Nazi
Starting point is 00:18:22 man, woman and child, especially the children. God, what I wouldn't give to mustard gas, the fuck out of an Aryan baby right now. Who knows, maybe he said that. Maybe FDR was salty and crazy after one too many old fashions. We don't know everything you said. The US wouldn't agree to not use biological
Starting point is 00:18:39 or bacteria weapons until 1975, actually, which is crazy to me. And then it only agreed under the caveat that it wouldn't use them, unless an enemy used them first, kind of like those other countries did earlier. You know, in that case, again, it was game on. And why didn't the US sign up? Well, because we have a history of thinking
Starting point is 00:18:53 the rules don't apply to us. If you want to get down to it, it's a very American attitude, man. Your little country doesn't get to have nuclear weapons. Uh-uh, no, you can't handle them. You know, and if you try to acquire any, we'll sanction the shit out of you, maybe even invade.
Starting point is 00:19:06 But we can't, why? Well, because we're fucking America and because shut the fuck up, that's why. Because might makes right. Same for biological weapons. You don't get any, but we're gonna go ahead and start making some in case we need to attack you and to oblivion.
Starting point is 00:19:20 The US would introduce a biological weapons program that would continue for at least 25 years that we know of In Japan they weren't signing anything either because they were already fucking messing around with you know thinking about biological weapons And you know they possess the same arrogance at least pre-World War 2 before they had their ass as handed to them You know that we do now they had might and they weren't gonna play by the same rules and if you don't like it tough shit 1932 1932 a young and ambitious Japanese physician and army officer and monster and devil and evil incarnate, Shiro Ishi,
Starting point is 00:19:52 not bound by the Geneva protocols, protocols or any sense of, I don't know, wow, I should not be fucking doing this because this is messed up, begins performing preliminary experiments in Jerm warfare shortly after Japan invades Manchuria. On September 18, 1931, in an in-n event, no now is the Manchurian incident. Japan sees the Manchurian city of Mukden, now Shangyang in the Liyaoning province in China, and then quickly invaded all of Manchuria, now North-East China, and established the Japanese-dominated puppet state of Manchukuo. Now, Manchukuo, yeah, was a puppet state created in 1932 by Japan out of three historic provinces of Manchuria. And after the Russo, Japanese war, 1904-1905, remember that one from the Rasputin time-suck?
Starting point is 00:20:40 That was that when the last Russian czar Nicholas I's image already weakened greatly in the eyes of the Russian people because of his wife's belief that only the crazy sex-obsessed bug-eyed rest Putin could keep their hemophiliax sunlight. When Nicholas got his ass kicked by Japan, it greatly accelerated his demise and the end of the Russian imperial rule. Well, after that war, Japan gained control of the Russian built South Menturian railway. And it's army established a presence in that region, using the train to get the troops in there. And all their goods and expansion there was seen as necessary for Japan's status and as an emerging world power.
Starting point is 00:21:14 In 1931, the Japanese army attacked Chinese troops. In 1932, Manchukuo was proclaimed an independent state. The last Qing emperor was brought out of retirement and made Manchuk Co's ruler, but the state was originally controlled by the Japanese. He was a ruler and name only, who used it as their base for expansion into Asia. They had plans, man. They had plans for some domination. All the focus on Hitler and the Germans in World War II, it's easy to forget that Japan was also making a play to remake the world in its image. They were a force to be reckoned with, man. In the 30s, fuck yeah, like the Nazis, there was nothing they wouldn't do to win the war,
Starting point is 00:21:48 including biological warfare. Unlike Roosevelt, they weren't gonna wait for someone else to make the first move, right? Before they were able to use biological weapons, they needed to develop them first. And in an example of just ice cold pragmatism, they needed guinea pigs to make their weapons the most effective weapons they could be.inea pigs to make their weapons the most effective
Starting point is 00:22:05 weapons they could be. They needed to test weapons on the same animals that they would be used on in the field, humans. Scientifically, the best way to test a new weapons effectiveness at destroying a human being is by, you know, well, using it on a human being and finding out firsthand how well it destroys them. So now, okay, back to General Ishi, the dark mastermind behind Unit 731, he's really like the Japanese Mengele, man.
Starting point is 00:22:30 A little suck within a suck on him. He was born on June 25th, 1892, about two hours from Tokyo, to a family wealthy by local village standards. In 1916, he entered Kyoto Imperial University, which was a prestigious Institute of Higher Learning with medical department known for advancements in bacteriology. Ishi received his doctorate in medicine in 1911, graduating with honors. However, despite being a good student, not well liked by his peers.
Starting point is 00:22:56 He developed a reputation as someone who was pushy in considerate, selfish, and he used these traits to climb the academic and then the medical ladder. In short, you know, going all the way back to episode four of TimeSuck, he was a fucking sociopath. He listed in the army in 1920 was commissioned a lieutenant transferred to the first army hospital in Tokyo in 1922. He married the head of Kyoto Imperial University's daughter cementing his position there as a top tier bacterial researcher.
Starting point is 00:23:26 When the Geneva Convention made using bacterial weapons essentially a war crime, issues hate and evil boner grew to new, diabolical dimensions. It was now four to five inches long. He became convinced of the potential devastating effectiveness of its use in war. He had real into it. If it was so dangerous that it needed to be banned He knew it could be a powerful weapon to spread the glory of Imperial Japan It already been thinking about developing biological weapons now He was certain he could use his knowledge to help Japan gain worldwide military, you know domination
Starting point is 00:23:57 You know, he pressed the military to allow him to head a new agency focusing on a biological weapon development up until that point The Japanese army had been kind of super weird about medical research regarding infectious diseases. They actually wanted their doctors to use skills, you know, doctrine skills to heal soldiers, not infect other people. You know, crazy, right? But EG promoted the advantages of the silent weapons of disease in poison. You know, made the kind of the upper top brass realize that it would be cheaper to develop bacteria in poison gas than it would be
Starting point is 00:24:29 to develop other kind of more conventional weaponry. Again, just ice cold pragmatism. What would be the cheapest way to kill millions of people and risk the least Japanese lives, disease in poison? It would also kill untold numbers of enemy non-combatants, women and children, but you know what, Ah, oh well. They're not Japanese, so fuck them.
Starting point is 00:24:48 At this time, the Japanese military had a policy of sending officers overseas to study foreign military facilities, and in the spring of 1928, Ishihad left Japan for a two-year tour of international medical and military facilities, including in Germany. The tour was so important to him. He funded it partly out of his own pocket. He visited the United States, Canada, more than 20 European countries. So you know, met with some early Nazi medical, you know, scientists. Not sure if he actually met with Joseph Mengele or not. You know, there's there's not unlimited records on this guy. The purpose of this of his trip was to gain knowledge to further
Starting point is 00:25:20 his goal of incorporating chemical and biological warfare into the Japanese military machine. He researched the history of gas weapons used in World War I, studied what various countries he was visiting were doing in the fields of bacteriological and gas warfare. When he returned to Japan in 1930, the Nationalistic Movement that was already there when he left was burning hotter than ever. Japan and no one else mattered. That was the attitude. Japan first, everyone else last.
Starting point is 00:25:46 An old slogan from six decades prior of a wealthy country, a strong army was being tossed around again. Other slogans, such as, fuck everyone else. And if you're not Japanese, you can suck our collective dick. And we'll make the whole world Japanese, even if it means stomping your kids' heads in, may have also been tossed around.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I have no proof of those, but it feels right in my gut, based on everything else I read. The upper ranks of the Japanese military establishment had been harboring dreams of conquering Asia for years, and from there, ideally conquering the rest of the world. And again, man, Imperial Japan, right up there with Nazi Germany in terms of 20th century dreams of just taking over the world by any means necessary.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Ishi finally convinced the minister of the Army into incorporating his biological and chemical weapons plans into Japan's dream of world domination. Ishi's first lab is set up, as I stated earlier, 1932. It's called the epidemic prevention research laboratory. Sounds nice and harmless, right? Sounds helpful. It's set up in an army hospital.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And Ishi's in charge his first concrete step towards form in unit 731. At the end of 1931, each complained to the higher ups in the military that he'd only do so much with animal research, to create truly lethal, truly effective biological weapons, to perfect them, he needed human subjects. He convinced them that he needed to move his research
Starting point is 00:26:56 facility to Manchuria, or he could pluck the local Chinese just off the streets, you know. And the way that Germans looked at non-areans as less than, or even sub-human, especially Jewish people. Many Japanese in the 1930s, I shouldn't say many. Many of the Japanese military, at least, I want to speak for the entire citizenry, in the 1930s, looks at essentially everyone who wasn't Japanese as less than and sub-human. He wasn't sent to Manchuria right away, but he did expand his facilities in Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Japan is an interesting culture that way, by the way. I read a lot of stuff about this kind of recent stuff in Japan, it's like, we talk about our struggles with racism here. Japan has historically struggled a lot with racism. Like very nationalistic, very much like your Japanese or your fucking dirt. Okay, so then in 1932, Japanese troops moved
Starting point is 00:27:48 into the Manchurian Railroad Hub City of Harbin, a multi-cultural, multi-racional center of commerce, art, and music. Back in 1898, the city was just a collection of villages about 30,000 people total, but then was developed by the Russians in the first years of the 20th century before the Russo-Japanese War broke out into a fascinating and thriving city.
Starting point is 00:28:08 As of the most recent census numbers taken back in 2010, the city had a population of over 10 million. So probably quite a bit more than that now if it's growing that fast. So much bone and gone on over there. You don't go from 30,000 to over 10 million in roughly a century without a lot of bone in. Russians, Mongols, and Chinese, various immigrants from, from throughout Asia lived there.
Starting point is 00:28:30 A lot of poor people lived there as well. And with the recent outbreak of war, a lot of displaced people, widows, orphans, you know, the kind of people that a fucking monster could pluck from the street and have very few people look for them. Dr. Ishi arrived a few months after the army and began overseeing construction of a large urban facility. He decided to build a kids playground. Dog Park,
Starting point is 00:28:48 roller rink, bouncy house, arcade, and assisted living center for the disabled, gee, gee, geriatrics of the area. Because he was just, he decided to be nice, golly sudden, and the episodes over. No, of course he didn't do that. He decided to build a murder factory, man. He decided to build something that H.H. Holmes would have been jealous as shit over. He started out with just a few hundred men and initially so as not to sound off any alarms from the local population and they kind of kicked things off one of the pretenses of being a vaccine research center. Yeah, just don't mind us. We're just doing a little vaccine research. That's all guys. We just happen to be really bad at it, so bad. So far, despite our best efforts, we're 100% unsuccessful at keeping our patients alive.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Each year, also kicked off the beginnings of more research about 100 kilometers to the south and a poor neighborhood of about 300 homes. And Japanese troops told everyone live in there that they had three days to clear the hell out. It's fun. Once they were gone, each year set up a restricted military zone, began construction
Starting point is 00:29:45 of some brick buildings, Chinese laborers are recruited, paid wages, the barely kept them alive, several hundred rooms are built in less than a year, everything else is veiled in secrecy. There were two sections to the new complex. One, containing offices, living quarters, dining areas, warehouses, a parking lot. The other secret area contained prisons, laboratories. I always want to say, labor laboratories and a crematorium. The workers who built this portion of the facility were murdered when the job was completed. That, by the way, if you're getting into construction and you don't know a lot about how it works, that's the worst kind of construction job you can get if you don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Like if you're a general contractor and you're getting going, you're putting some bids out, you're trying to get some work, you're negotiating, how much you get paid for a job. If the facility owner says something along the lines of, hey, instead of that much, how about when you're done, I murder you and I murdered your entire crew. You need to keep negotiating. I know you don't want to lose the work, but you need to keep negotiating. This new facility became known as the Zongma Fortress,
Starting point is 00:30:45 a walled in Fortress city, a three meter high wall, about 10 feet high, was topped and barbed with a barbed wire, high voltage electric wire fence, or electric wire, excuse me, up on top of the barbed wire, they just fucking big fence, big wall, excuse me, barbed wire, electric wire. So they're not messing around. Garbage of patrolling the perimeter 24 hours a day, twin iron doors, swing open to an actual
Starting point is 00:31:07 fucking drawbridge. A drawbridge. The road leading to the facility was declared off limits to citizens and trains, excuse me, citizens and trains like trains would just drive up the road. No, it was declared off limits to citizens and trains passing about a kilometer away on some local train tracks were required to have their shades drawn. Rumors quickly began to swirl about those who got a little too curious about this new secret fortress, such as one about a young boy who walked too close one night for a look, his body was allegedly found the next day.
Starting point is 00:31:37 He had been shot to death. More rumors circulated. Crises of anguish were heard. In 1936, it was well known among the Chinese in the area. This was not an ordinary prison, but it was some kind of murder shot. There was another rumor that Andre Chikotilo, the butcher of Rostov, was caught jerking off just outside the wall. Why you keep making jerk off jokes about Tikotilo?
Starting point is 00:31:58 Shadow Chikotilo may have to hunt you now. I see no problem. I see no problem with the jerking of Southcock. Why joke? Why jokes keep being made? It's not even jerking off. It's more massage what I did. What I did more massage than jerk.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It's not even sexual. It's more like, it's more like stress ball. Some people squeeze stress ball with nervous. I squeeze weak flaccid, shame penis. What's big deal with this? I promise I won't throw Chikotilo in the every episode forever, but he still makes me laugh so much.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Just his strange, flaccid penis rubbin. Okay, if you're a first-time listener also, Chikotilo has nothing to do with his narrative. He was for sure not there. He's a character from a, he's not a character, he's a fucking monster. I've talked about it in a previous episode. Anyway, local villager will report years later
Starting point is 00:32:48 that locals were only used to build the outer areas of the facility. The secret area was built from workers brought in by train from some other place. And then those workers, you know, as I stated a few moments ago, were killed. They were never seen again. The construction was completed.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And then the experiments began. One early experiment was determining how long a human being could live on just water. Food was withheld from prisoners, and some were given ordinary water. Others received a still water to see which group lived longer. We know about this experiment
Starting point is 00:33:14 from an early escapee from the fortress. Yeah, a few people actually did get out in 1936. Roughly 40 people made it out one night after being recently transferred to the fortress in Zongma from Dr. D. She's Dr. E. She's other facility back in Harbin. It was August 15th. Some kind of festival was going on for the Japanese prisoner named Lee knew the guards would be drinking and enjoying themselves and when he handed a guard his utensils at evening after eating dinner
Starting point is 00:33:40 he was able to to grab this prison guy through the bars, smash him in the head somehow, take his keys, let out a bunch of other prisoners, a storm had also taken out the electrical fence that night. So they're lucky that way. And they kind of formed a human ladder to make it over this wall of the barbed wire and everything. And they escaped where unfortunately, most of them were then shot by prison guards, including Lee himself.
Starting point is 00:34:02 However, at least a few men made it to a local village and survived to tell their story years later. They also spread word of early kind of horrors going on within the facility. Blood constantly being drawn from prisoners, like way too much, prisoner starved, injected with God knows what. Well, due to word getting out, the fortress experiments were shut down. Couldn't risk the international community finding out what they were up to, not quite yet. Still not quite ready for taking on the Allied forces in World War II. So construction began at a new facility located in the Ping Fang area of Harbin, 1936. Hundreds of families, again, forced to leave their homes, building and surrounding the facility could be no more than one story high to keep out prying ice. Airspace over the facility
Starting point is 00:34:44 was limited to the Japanese military. Anyone come into Ping Fang needed a special travel pass. Going with the fortress theme again, a moat was created to surround the compound. Man, Dr. Ishi really went for that evil super villain role with gusto. I wonder if he had an assistant with a hunchback, you know, helping him in his evil castle. Just, yes, Dr. Ishi. Right away, Dr. Ishi, of course. I will grab the scalpel, Master. Would you like the small circular saw, Master?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Perhaps the blowtorch? Yes, of course. Anything, Mr. Ishi. The Pink Fang facility would be a compound of more than 70 separate buildings built on a six square kilometer track of land, Japanese construction company. The Suzuki Group worked around the clock on the project. The bulk of construction on the new Unit 731 compound and pink fang is completed. 1939, mass experimentation really
Starting point is 00:35:36 begins. It may have already been going on before that. Again, some of these things with the time, it's kind of hard to say since they destroyed so many records at the end of the war. Men, women, even children were brought in for experiments. We do know that from a testimony of people who were involved. They weren't killed or did come out of hiding, whatever. In an odd twist, the traditional way humans have historically been tortured and killed. The prisoners at Unit 731, this facility were actually kept in a clean and comfortable detention center. The cells had toilets were clean. The buildings had central heating, cooling systems, they were well fed, given good food, allowed to exercise that kind of stuff. Many were eating better than they did
Starting point is 00:36:12 before imprisonment. All this was done to ensure that the results of Ishi's monstrous experiments weren't contaminated by famine or squalor affecting the prisoners, who are now referred to as Maruta's Japanese for logs. This term comes from local villagers being told that the Japanese were building a lumber mill when they were constructing the facility. So yeah, they wanted to keep them as living as normally as possible so that they could then have the best results when they mutilated and killed them. Jesus Christ. So clinical, this kind of evil. The Pink Fang compound was equipped with three separate incinerators for disposing of evil. The pink fan compound was equipped with three separate
Starting point is 00:36:45 incinerators for disposing of bodies and other materials. It was a laboratory version of a concentration camp. And if this alone isn't disturbing enough to hear a former worker there would later say that, quote, the bodies always burned up fast because all the organs were gone, the bodies were empty. Fuck! Another former worker described how they were able to take away
Starting point is 00:37:07 all the humanity from the prisoners there. He said they weren't people. They were just Maruda, just numbered logs. They were Maruda, 74, Maruda, 89. What's even more troubling is that it wasn't just Japanese military personnel work in here. Each, he began to recruit civilian researchers from his alma mater, alma mater and Kyoto.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Every day doctors, every day medical researchers began to recruit civilian researchers from his alma mater, alma mater, and Kyoto. Everyday doctors, everyday medical researchers had the opportunity to have no ethical limitations placed on their research. And what kind of research exactly was going on at Unit 731? Well, I guess at that particular facility, they focused, and then they weren't limited to these four main areas, but they focused on four main areas. The first area of research focused on cholera. cholera experiments weren't just limited to facility prisoners. Japanese soldiers would be
Starting point is 00:37:51 inoculated against cholera, for example, and then these soldiers would head to local villages around the facility and intentionally spread it to the general population by various means, such as releasing cholera-infected dogs or rats into villages. And apparently the results for what is she hoped for mass death from the disease and low communities around unit 731. They also focused on EHF epidemic hemorrhagic fever. Another area of research, which when Japanese troops moved into Manchuria, they started becoming infected with a previously unknown pathogen carried by ticks, gave the infected a high fever, followed by internal bleeding, carried a 15 to 20 percent mortality
Starting point is 00:38:29 rate. Eashinist's dad figured out how to treat the disease to curb losses amongst Japanese troops and then he began to experiment in our prisoners to turn it into a weapon. Research teams went into areas infested with the disease and collected rats, ticks which were found on the bodies of the rats were removed. Approximately 200 of these ticks were ground and mixed into a saline solution. This mixture would then be injected according to one report
Starting point is 00:38:51 into the bodies of subjects, which were then observed for symptoms of the disease. If the disease manifested, then the blood of the subject would be drawn and injected into another subject. And if the second subject manifests the symptoms, they just repeated it again. When these symptoms appeared, the subject would be dissected or vivisected.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Their organs would be removed, parts of these, ground into a fine solution again with saline, and that would be injected into more substance. And they just kept going on and going on. And the contents appeared in a medical journal and they used monkey for human being, so they wouldn't be considered monsters. So that was one actually study from the university
Starting point is 00:39:32 and they made it to some sort of publication, but they just, they concealed what they were actually doing by saying that they were doing this to monkeys. And I also wanna say that calm down, animal lovers. I realized doing this to monkeys doesn't make it okay. It's also pretty fucked up, but come on, not as bad as humans. I love animals. I do not place animals, you know, alongside humans as having equal value. Sorry, sorry, not sorry on that. You know, 31 also experiment with
Starting point is 00:40:00 plague, which had better military applications and cholera for killing military populations. By the way, I just, I can feel animal people tightening up over it. I, again, though I do want to be clear, I don't think animals should be experimented on either in these situations. Except, I don't know. You know what, if I'm going to be totally honest, I don't fucking care about rats. So if you're a rat lover, sorry, I don't fucking care. We have to experiment on some kind of biological animals to, you know, or, excuse me, some kind of mammals to make medical advancements to save humans to, you know, or some kind of mammals to make medical advancements to save humans and I'm okay getting rid of rats. I'm not like, yeah, man, I don't fucking get off on it, but, you know, if it has to be done,
Starting point is 00:40:33 all right, rats, there we go. Maybe it's partly because my daughter had a guinea pig and that thing was a fucking asshole. A bit everybody tried to put their hand in the cage, it was just a piece of shit. So there you go. So Gini pigs at least. Alright, Gini pigs at least, fuck and do what you wish. Anyway, plague, they experimented with the plague, which they preferred over cholera, because cholera could wreak havoc on civilian populations, but not as ideal for attacking
Starting point is 00:40:59 enemy troops because it wasn't as fatal and it took longer to kill you. cholera has an incubation period of about 20 days. Play can kill you in three. And both jangles can kill you in negative one second. Yeah, you didn't know that did you. Both jangles are so lethal. And so quick, he can actually make you die just before he attacks you. Anyway, the type of plague they experimented
Starting point is 00:41:20 with was bubonic plague. You know, the same one that kills people in Europe and the middle ages. Patients develop sudden onset of fever, headache, chills, weakness, one or more swollen, tender and painful lymph nodes, and then oftentimes, you know, die painful, painful death. Frostbite tests were also done.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Frostbite was another one of the main areas they focused on in 731. These were directed by Dr. Yoshimura Hisato, aka the fucking demon of death, physiologist from the same school, Kyoto Imperial University, Azishi, Moscow remained on Tokyo's list of potential adversaries. Now, Japan's incursion into China was once again putting her eyeball to eyeball, kind of with Moscow. And if another clash came, it's going to be in cold weather In fact, cold weather combat had already established itself as a problem at the time of the Manchurian incident that began Japan's
Starting point is 00:42:13 Occupation of parts of China in 1931 Army medics were treating large numbers of Japanese soldiers who were suffering from frostbite Usually fingers and toes would be affected and you know treatment a lot of times involved amputating, you know The limbs that were too frostbitten to recover. This experience made it clear and you know made it clear that you know if they're gonna get better at cold weather fighting they needed to understand frostbite a lot more and come up with some prevention and treatment. So Yershermeira was called on to conduct some cold weather tests on human subjects under Isha's guidance. And one of the standard methods that he
Starting point is 00:42:44 employed in his research was deliberate induction of Isha's guidance. And one of the standard methods that he employed in his research was deliberate induction of frostbite. This is one of the most, this is some of the most brutal stuff. People were taken from prison into below freezing temperatures. They were tied up with their arms bare and soaked with water. Water was poured over their arms regularly. Sometimes the ice that formed them would be chipped away
Starting point is 00:43:00 and then water poured over it again. The researcher would strike the limbs regularly with a club. When an arm made a sound like a wooden boards being hit, this indicated that the limb was frozen through. And from there, different methods of treatment were tested. These people, they're not giving like anesthetic or anything. They're just dragged out into the open air and they're just having hypothermia,
Starting point is 00:43:23 or excuse me, frostbite forced upon their limbs. Their limbs frozen through and beaten with clubs. I can't imagine the pain. Legs and feet were also given similar treatment. Temperatures in Manchuria can reach as low as minus 20 to 30 degrees Celsius. Some of the tests were conducted outdoors when it was at cold. Other times, electric fans were used to speed up the freezing. At Ping Feng, Yoshimura had his own large refrigerator lab that allowed him to freeze subjects all year round and reach even lower temperatures and outside in the open. Temperatures reached as low as minus 70 degrees Celsius.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Some experiments resulted in the frozen flesh and muscle actually falling off of the bones. This is from living people. Others left the bones so brittle, they were shattered. Their limbs were shattered, like it was a fucking popsicle by blows from the clubs. Fuck, this is done to human beings. Not even criminals. Some of the subjects were prisoners of war.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Some were just unlucky villagers. You know, you're farming a little plot of land in your village one day. You're getting your meat, your frozen meat knocked off your frozen arm bone in a death camp the next day, while some evil mother fucker holds a clipboard and take some notes. It's mind blowing, what are species is capable of doing to one another.
Starting point is 00:44:33 The eventual result of the frostbite experiments were always the same, gang green and the rotting away of extremities. Several former unit 731 members have commented on seeing victims of the experiments that had no hands, no feet, but still alive, still alive so they could study their slow and painful demise in literal excruciating detail. Frostbite experiments were carried out on children and even infants. One experiment was with a three-month-old baby. A temperature sensor needle was injected into the baby's hand and the infant was immersed in ice water. Then temperature changes were carefully recorded.
Starting point is 00:45:06 And then the baby was killed. Fucking baby. One prisoner in victim of the frostbite experience was pregnant when her baby was born. It was used in the frostbite experiment as well. How can you be that callous towards human suffering? I mean, that's just holy shit. It was around 1941 that the Ping Fang facility
Starting point is 00:45:24 became known as Unit 731, kind of officially in documents and conversation. Various other torture units were popping up and I guess they just needed a classification system to kind of keep track of what was going on in each place. And again, there were other facilities such as one in Anda. Anda was an open air testing ground, 120 kilometers from Ping Fang,
Starting point is 00:45:42 about three hours by road. It was used for outdoor tests of plague, cholera, other pathogens and experimental biological warfare bombs, other methods of exposing human beings to pathogenic substances and open air situations. Test generally used from 10 to 40 people at a time, and then the subjects would be tied to crosses in circles of various sizes.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Test involved in element of trial and error and comparing results obtained from different size circles enabled researchers to determine ranges of effectiveness at various distances from the points where projectile struck or infected guess were released. Good got. Man, I listened to this in an audio book as well. And what it said is just to make sure this is clear, yeah, these people are like, you know, tied up to a cross or whatever or just tied down to the ground. And if you just imagine like rings around the impact set or where a bomb would be detonated, you know, there's one ring, maybe like 10 meters away, another 20, another 30, another 50,
Starting point is 00:46:32 and then there's just place people at these distances so that when the bomb detonated, they could just, you know, find out exactly how each person was affected physically, you know, compared to how closely we're to the bomb. Man, how much does it suck her if you get placed in that first ring? Do you think it makes sense to have me sit on the actual bomb? I feel like we all know it's going to happen in this situation. Can I please move to the maybe the 10 meter ring, maybe the hundred, maybe several thousand miles away? When biological warfare bombs were tested, each maruda was protected
Starting point is 00:47:03 with headgear and a metal plate hung from the neck to cover that part of the body. They didn't want the bomb itself to kill them. They didn't want the impact to kill them. They wanted the disease that was attached to the explosive device. They wanted that, you know, maybe some plague infected fleas or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:19 They wanted that to get them, wanted that to kill them. Man, these assholes really played God. Man, decided not only when their subjects would die, but how they would die. Under veterinarian, Wakumatsu Yuzuru, unit 100 in Shai and Jing, present day, Chanjun, Chanjun, concentrated his research on sabotage.
Starting point is 00:47:40 One experiment entailed mixing poisons with food to study their effects on subjects and to gain knowledge of appropriate dosages for various toxins. Man, that'd be a shitty place to have meal time. Just fucking every dinner. You just, you don't know if they put poison in your food. Additionally, extensive areas of land were cultivated for research into chemicals for crop destruction. So that's another choice. Do you want to be poisoned or do you want to eat poison crops. That's your unit 100 options. There were also other testing facilities in places like Beijing, Guangzhou, Singapore, and Beijing.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Former researchers would report subjects being intentionally infected with plague, cholera typhus, more, and Singapore, also known as Unit 9 420, fleas containing plague or bread in mass. The process of how they did this is pretty crazy. Here's a report came across in the book Unit 731 Testimony by How Gold. Somebody says, seven Chinese Indian and Malay boys working in the lab were all assigned the task of picking fleas from rats and putting them into containers. The article quotes Ottoman walk is saying, it was an unforgettable experience. It was the first time that I was doing something which made me feel like a medical student. Some 40 rat catchers, apparently Japanese soldiers
Starting point is 00:48:49 would comb Singapore for the rodents and bring their hull into the lab. The rats would then be put to sleep with chloroform, and the boys would work at pulling the fleas from their bodies with pinchers. Then the fleas were placed in the containers with water, which prevented them from jumping around, and from there the Japanese staff took over. According to Osmond, I think I said ottoman earlier, it's Osmond walk. According to Osmond, test tubes were prepared with one flee in each. The rats were injected with plague pathogens, their bellies were shaved, and the test tubes were inverted over the shaved area, allowing the fleas to feed on the rats and become plague
Starting point is 00:49:21 carriers. All this work was done by the Japanese in the same room where I worked, Osmond recounted, the infected fleas were then transferred to carousine cans which contained sand, dried, horse blood, and an unidentified chemical. They were left to breed for about two weeks. Finally, the adult fleas had their offspring all infected with plague, and then they were transferred to flasks and shipped out. Concerning their destination, Mr. Osmond said a driver who drove the trucks with transported the fleas to the railway station
Starting point is 00:49:48 said that these bottles of fleas were sent off to Thailand. This information supports assertions that a unit 731 branch operated in neutral Thailand as well. Man, so apparently these plague fleas were then used years later on a biological attack in Chongqing. And then on the island of Okunoshima, just outside Hiroshima, a factory started producing poison gas in 1929. 1942, Eishi oversees more extensive field tests of germ warfare on Chinese
Starting point is 00:50:16 soldiers and civilians. Tens of thousands die of bribonic plague, cholera and thracx, other diseases, put in those fleas to work. US soldiers captured in the Philippines are sent to Manchuria, and some of them may have well, very well died in the Ishii's experiments. So I think when they talk about a 3000 number that I mentioned at the top, that's kind of like people who died in the facility, but they're also killing people in various villages
Starting point is 00:50:38 and small cities around Southeast Asia as well. So who knows exactly how many people died at the hands of Ishi, his experiments. 1945, Japanese troops blow up the headquarters of Unit 731. In the final days of the Pacific War, as their defeat appears imminent, Ishi orders the 150 remaining logs still alive in the facility to be killed to cover up their experimentation.
Starting point is 00:51:00 1946, the US engages in a Unit 731 cover-up in secret deal with Ishii and Unit 731 leaders. Jerm warfare data based on human experimentation in exchange for immunity from war crimes prosecution begins in earnest. The deal is concluded two years later. How messed up is that? I get that the info they had was probably very valuable to disease prevention, but couldn't you double cross them in that situation?
Starting point is 00:51:23 Like get the info. Then send in, I don't know, CIA, a Stassons or somebody to put these monsters into ground. So discussing the so many of the people who ruthlessly tortured thousands of deaths got to walk, punishment-free after the war was over. It's shit like that that makes me not believe in karma, right? Where is the karma here? I'd love to have that explain to me because I don't see it. In 1959, Ishi dies at the fangs of Bojangles. Bojangles ties him up, not an easy feat for a three-legged
Starting point is 00:51:52 dog, and then plucks Ishi's pubic hair out, all of it, one hair at a time. Also not easy when you're down a paw and you don't have a thumb. And then he cuts Ishi's dick off with a cheese grater. That's right. He grates off his dick slowly. Dumb, but some salt in the wound every few minutes, a little tricky picked up from the iceman, Kuklingski. Die, is she die you piece of shit? He'll never.
Starting point is 00:52:16 No, sadly, that does not happen. Sadly, doesn't. Is she does at least die a throat cancer? So hopefully that hurt. But he got to live as a free man until the age of 67. There were rumors that after the war, he opened up a pediatric clinic. If that's true, guessing he's scared the shit out of a, out of more than a few of his patients. And guess he didn't go heavy with the painkillers.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Oh, he's fine. He didn't even ask for aspirin. He doesn't need it. He doesn't need it. She only taken hours out of reset his broken leg 10 to 15 times. I'll put it into a cast. I'll hold together with nails. There are also rumors he converted to Catholicism before his death.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Huh, it's convenient. I wonder how many Hail Mary's you need to do to a tone for overseeing the horrific death of thousands of innocent people in order to perfect weaponry that will kill millions more. 1991 John Powell, a former publisher of a Shanghai magazine who was unsuccessfully tried for a sedition in the early 1950s for accusing the United States of using German warfare in Korea. I haven't been able to research that. That's probably a whole separate episode about US biological warfare. This person exposes Unit 731 Immunity Deal in the bulletin of atomic scientists, in 1985, Dr. Murray Sanders, a former lieutenant colonel who was a US advisor on biological warfare, claims the heepersweighted
Starting point is 00:53:30 MacArthur to approve the immunity deal for Japanese scientists like Ishii in the fall of 1945. So, you know, that definitely happened. 1986, a congressional subcommittee holds a one-day hearing in Washington called by a representative Pat Williams of Montana aimed at determining whether. prisoners of war in Manchuria were victims of germ warfare experimentation. The hearing is inconclusive due to all of the evidence that was destroyed by the Japanese at the end of the war. And that is it for this evil timeline. Good job, soldier. You made it back.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Barely. Okay, so that's it for the timeline. Now let's look a little more in-depth at what these bastards did. I was tempted to insert a super scary stuff segment here, but I think this shit is more sad. It's more sad than scary. These are various tales told by former doctors, nurses, guards, etc. who worked at Unit 731 at one time or another. So firsthand tales. And the first story is about a man known only as the farmer.
Starting point is 00:54:35 This is told by a Unit 731 former doctor there. The man looked like a farmer covered with grime. He was wasting away and his cheekbones protruded. His eyes glared out from the dirt and the tattered cotton clothes he was wrapped in. The team leader was fully pleased with yesterday's results. We never had such a typical change in blood, picture and rate of infection.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And I was eagerly looking forward to see what changes will be present in today's blood sample. With high hopes, I came to the number seven cell block with the arm guards at my side. The maruda I was working on was on the verge of death. It would be disastrous if he died. Then I would not be able to get a blood sample, and we would not obtain the important results of the test we had been working on.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I called his number. No answer came. I motioned through the window at the other four prisoners to bring him over. They sat there without moving. I screamed abusively at them to hurry up and bring him over to the window. One of the guards pulled out a gun aimed at them and screamed in Chinese. Resigned, they gently lifted up the other man and brought him over to the window. More important to me than the man's death was the blood flowing in the human guinea pig's body at the moment just before his death. His hand was perplish in turning cold.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He put his arm through the opening. I was elated. Filled with a sense of victory in holding down my inexpressible excitement, thinking forward to how the team leader would be waiting for these results, I reached for the hypodermic. I inserted the needle into the vein. It made a dull sound. I pulled the red, black blood into the hypodermic. Three cubic centimeters,
Starting point is 00:56:06 five cubic centimeters. His face became paler. Before he'd been moaning, now he could not even moan. His throat was making a tiny rasping sound like an insect. With resentment and anger in his eyes, he stared at me without even blinking. But that did not matter. I obtained a blood sample in the ten. I obtained a blood sample of 10 cubic centimeters. For people in laboratory work, this is ecstasy and one's calling to his profession, showing compassion for a pertains death pains, excuse me, showing compassion for a person's death pains was of no value to me. At the lab, I processed the blood sample quickly and then went back to look into the cell. His face occasionally twitched. His breath became shallower, and he went into his death-throws.
Starting point is 00:56:51 The other four men in the cell who had the same fate waiting for them could not contain their anger. They took water and poured it into the mouth of the dead man. This way, an irreplaceable life is trifled with to take the place of a guinea pig, and the result is one sheet of graph paper. Four or five soldiers with drawn guns opened the door to the cell, it made a heavy sound. They dragged the dead man out into the corridor and loaded him onto a handcart. The other four men, knowing what their fate would be tomorrow, could not hold down the anger in their eyes as they watched their dead companion leave. The handcart disappeared in the direction of the dissection room with a tall chimney
Starting point is 00:57:27 looming above. Hell, those poor bastards spent their final moments in a living hell. So terrible. I have a hard time even imagining how horrible their final days must have been. And this doctor recounting the story years later, it just does seem by his language, like there's still such a lack of compassion. Just so again, just so clinically evil. STDs, such as syphilis, were studied by Unit 731 researchers. STDs were becoming a real problem for the Japanese military due to their constant raping of Russian and Chinese women. I wish I was making that up. The Marco Polo bridge incident and the rape of Nanjing were two wartime incidents. It took place in 1937.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And there were 20,000 recorded incidents of rape against Russian women recorded during the five month period between those events alone. 20,000 recorded incidents in five months. Fox those guys like to rape. So many Japanese soldiers were getting STDs from all of the raping and frequent use of comfort women, i.e. prostitute slash sex slaves, that the military higher-ups called upon Unit 731 to figure out how to treat STDs more effectively and clean up these pieces of shit's dicks. Here is one form of researchers account of his STD research.
Starting point is 00:58:40 At first we infected women with syphilis by injection, but this method did not produce real research results. Syphilis by injection, but this method did not produce real research results. Syphilis is normally transmitted through direct contact. Infection of venereal disease by injection was abandoned, and the researcher started forcing the prisoners into sexual acts with each other. Four or five, unit members, dressed in white laboratory clothing, completely covering their body with only eyes and mouth visible, handled the tests. A male and female, one infected with syphilis, will be brought together in a cell and forced
Starting point is 00:59:08 into sex with each other. It was made clear that anyone resisting would be shot. Once the healthy partner was infected, the progress of the disease would be observed closely to determine, for example, how far it advanced the first week. The second week, so forth. Instead of merely looking at external signs, such as the condition of the sexual organs, researchers were able to employ live dissection, so vivisection, to investigate how different internal organs are affected
Starting point is 00:59:33 at different stages of the disease. By learning how the disease develops, we try to find a way to protect Japanese soldiers from sexually transmitted diseases. Wow! In order to treat the soldiers who are getting syphilis from all transmitted diseases. Wow, man, in order to treat the soldiers who are getting syphilis from all of their raping, they raped more people and then cut them open
Starting point is 00:59:52 while they're still alive to study these diseases. That it's just cartoonishly evil. It's like my brain won't actually allow the true horror of everything I'm talking about to sink in. Raping and killing people to help treat other people getting sick from all of their raping and killing, I feel like if Satan is real, even he would bump on this a bit.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And I even be like, whoa, guys, guys, you know I love some evil, but fuck, it's too much, it's too much. You just made one of my demons throw up here and about that. I'm all for torture, I'm all for killing, but raping to help rapist. Fuck. Come on. Here's another former surgeon's recollection of his unit 731 research. I went over and pushed the other one to the operating table. I had no feeling of apology or of doing anything bad.
Starting point is 01:00:40 The farmer was resigned to his fate and he lowered his head and walked forward. I didn't want to get my clothes dirty from him. I wanted to look sharp. He went as far as the operating table, but didn't want to lie down. A nurse using broken Chinese told him, We're using ether. It won't hurt. So lie down. She gave me a rye smile when she said that.
Starting point is 01:01:00 She had been working there for a long time, and when I happened to meet her again much later and asked her about it, she didn't remember. She was handling so many vivisections, it was routine. People who repeat evil acts do not remember them. There is no sense of doing wrong. War means this also. War is not just shooting. In order for Japan to win, all the Chinese were made prisoners.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Women's bellies were cut open. Homes were burned. If you couldn't do this, then you weren't a loyal soldier of the emperor. The scene in that room was not a typical one if preparing for an operation, but a clamor. It was practiced for army doctors for winning a war. If you made a disagreeable face,
Starting point is 01:01:37 when you returned home, you would be called a traitor. If it were just me alone, I could tolerate it. But the insulting looks would be cast on parents and siblings. If even if one despises and acts, one must bear it. From there, a person becomes accustomed to it. We all receive practice. It was normal to smile at this.
Starting point is 01:01:58 The crimes committed during our aggressive wars are forgotten, gone from memory. At the time, they were right. If you are praised, you must go ahead and perform. Surgery began. The man was given ether and dissected. So really vivisected. He was, you know, he's cut up and wall still alive. His appendix was so small that it looked,
Starting point is 01:02:16 it was like looking for a burrowing worm. I had to cut and search repeatedly. The blood flow was stopped, nerves were cut. Bones were cut with a saw, and a tracheotomy was performed. Blood and air escaped from his body and blood came foaming up. Practice time was two hours. The man died and his body was thrown into a hole and buried.
Starting point is 01:02:36 The burial area near the operating room was full, so we had to dig another hole farther away. We had received a request from a Japanese pharmaceutical manufacturer. I scraped samples from the outer covering of his brain, placed them into 10-500cc bottles with alcohol, and sent them to the company for rheumatism research. The other man, the soldier, was still panting. The hospital head used him for hypodermic practice and injected air into him. Then, to kill him, he injected the same liquid used for anesthesia. This was my first crime. After that, it was easy.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Eventually, I dissected 14 Chinese. Once I instructed a hygiene specialist in anatomy, we had charts and models, but I thought that actual experience would be faster. I contacted the Kenpai Thai and received one person. I cut the belly and the chest. I explained the intestines, the kidneys, the liver, and the stomach. I cut the belly in the chest. I explained the intestines, the kidneys, the liver, and the stomach. I was doing hideous things. I also saw vivid sections. Once I saw about 40 doctors gathered, there was a man bound and squatting. The guard
Starting point is 01:03:36 asked the doctors, are you ready? And the prisoner was laid out. And without anesthetic, two cuts were made down his belly. The victim made a few gasps, the dissection was a botch, and he died soon. I saw four people cut open that way. Man, this same former researcher goes on to talk about various other horrific deeds and about how when the war was over, he was surprised when he was charged with war crimes
Starting point is 01:03:59 and sentenced to prison. He's still like 12 years. He didn't think he'd done anything wrong. And you can tell by kind of like his language and stuff that he still felt he hadn't done anything wrong. He just felt like it was war. And you know, you just did what you needed to do to help win no matter what that was.
Starting point is 01:04:14 God, that's such a, you could have a whole, you could have many episodes just about that premise alone. What is okay to do in war? Oh, man, there was films of the season, the former Kyoto medical student, remember watching videos of some of the experiments, the former Kyoto medical student remembered watching
Starting point is 01:04:25 videos of some of the experiments in class or in World War II. Said, when we first started studying at Kyoto, our instructor was an army doctor who told us to practice of medicine is not for healing the sick and injured. In Japan, he said was fighting the world, and medicine itself must become a weapon. The instructor told us that animal tests alone were not sufficient for medical studies, and that human tests were also necessary. He said that such tests had been carried out in Shoda's 16-millimeter movies that had been taken in Manchuria.
Starting point is 01:04:51 One movie showed an experiment in which air was injected into the arms of living subjects to produce air embolisms. The film showed the victims in progressive stages of the condition as they suffered to death. Another film, the instructor showed us, was a beheading, with blood spurting from the body after the head was cut off. Man, students being shown that shit. That's one way to create a, just a fucking generation of monsters, teach an entire culture that, you know, the only lives that have value are Japanese lives, and you can do whatever you want with anybody else. Dr. Ishi's former car driver told this story after the war. At the Anda Bi warfare bomb testing ground, we watched the binoculars from a distance of about four kilometers.
Starting point is 01:05:28 There was very little sound when the bomb hit, then the contents released appearing smokey. There was no gunpowder explosion that would kill the fleece. Each maruda had a head protector and a chest protector to prevent being killed by bomb fragments. If bomb strapped or were to get them, then the effects of the bacteria could not be evaluated. Only the arms and not be evaluated. Only the arms and legs were exposed. Afterward, the progress of the plague to the body was observed. Once a maruda got loose, and one after the other, they untied each other and began running away.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Just about all 40 of them scattered over the field, but there was no place to escape to by that remote airport. There was nothing else to do but get in the truck and run over them. Sometimes I'd get one under the front, sometimes I'd feel one crushed under the running board. In the end, all 40 were killed. Just running them down with a truck in a field like it's a game. You know these asshole's had guns, they could have shot them, but they want to have some fun. Have a little sociopathic fun. Man, wish I could just go back in time and round up these researchers and do that to them.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Just mad max to shit out of them, just run them down. The worst thing I came across researching this episode was pressure tests. I listened to these described in the audio book for Unit 731, The Forgotten Asian Holocaust by Derek Poe. There would be a person in an airtight chamber and then they would slowly increase the pressure in the chamber until the person's eyes literally popped out of their head until blood began coming out of their
Starting point is 01:06:48 fucking pores. And then they'd perform an immediate vivisection sometimes when they were still alive. I literally can't think of a worse way to kill somebody. It's unreal. It's beyond disgusting. And by the way, vivisection, it's a term that keeps coming up in this episode. Not sure I'd ever heard that word prior to this week. It means essentially just yeah,
Starting point is 01:07:05 like cutting somebody open while they're still alive. Like where a dissection is to cut into a dead animal, vivisection is the live version. Human experimentation, Union 731, gave researchers their first chance to actually examine the organs of a living person at will to see the progress of a disease at, you know, at very specific moments. And so vivisection was a, you know, new experience for the progress of a disease at very specific moments.
Starting point is 01:07:25 And so vivisection was a new experience for the doctors of Japan. One former unit member explained that the results of the effects of infection cannot be obtained accurately once the person dies, because putrefactive bacteria set in. Putrefactive bacteria are stronger than plague germs, for example. So for obtaining accurate results, it is important whether the subject is still alive or not. The research methods in Manchuria
Starting point is 01:07:49 allowed doctors to induce diseases and examine their effects on organs in the first ages. Researchers worked with interpreters to ask about emerging symptoms, took subjects out of cells at what they judged to be the optimum time for results, and then they just sliced them open. And then they just, you know, they died whenever they died. According to one former unit member, as soon as the symptoms were
Starting point is 01:08:07 observed, the prisoner was taken from his cell and into the die section room. He was stripped and placed on a table, screaming, trying to fight back. He was strapped down, still screaming. One of the doctors would stuff a towel into his mouth. And then with one quick slice of the scalpel, he was opened up. Even with the intestines and organs exposed, a person does not die immediately. It's the same physical situation as ordinary surgery under anesthesia, in which a person is operated on and then restored. Witnesses that vivisections report that the victim usually lets out a horrible scream when the cut is made and then the voice stops soon after that.
Starting point is 01:08:41 The researchers conduct their examination of the organs, remove the ones they want for study, discard what is left of the body somewhere in that process the victim dies, through either blood loss or removal of vital organs. Ugh! Man, remember earlier, when I said I couldn't imagine a worse way to die? Now again, mother fucker this stuff is dark. And you guys just couldn't have picked Tesla for the bonus episode, could you? So why did they do all this? In theory, so they could create new
Starting point is 01:09:07 and effective biological weapons. So did they? Did they make those weapons? Kind of. They did actually use some of the results of their research in battle. In 1938 and 1939, the Soviet and Japanese armies clashed in two full-scale encounters
Starting point is 01:09:23 at the Menzawa Gu, Menzawa Guo, a border and former Mongolian border. The latter battle, which came to be known as the Nomanhen incident, resulted in an overwhelming defeat of the Japanese forces. But Ishi did get to test some of his research there despite the loss. His unit was to poison the water supply of the enemy, and they did that. They tried. They tried to poison him.
Starting point is 01:09:44 They dumped intestinal typhoid germs into a river to infect the water supply of the enemy and they did that. They tried. They tried to poison them. They dumped intestinal typhoid germs into a river to infect the water supply of Russian soldiers downstream. However, once typhoid germs are dumped into a river, they become ineffective almost immediately. So while this attack was completely unsuccessful, it is the first known time the Japanese army used biological warfare. And I guess all those experiments for nothing. It's kind of crazy that didn't work at all. Well, then, not that one, at least. They did get more effective later. And in October 1940, a plague attack was conducted against the port city of Ningbo.
Starting point is 01:10:15 This was a joint operation by Unit 731 and one of its affiliates, Nanjing-based Unit 1644. In this operation, plague germs mixed with wheat, corn, cloth scraps, and cotton were dropped from the air. A resident of the area who was attacked, who was 14 years old at the time and working in a tofu shop would recount it. Later, he was infected but managed to recover, and it is said that he is the only living person today who can bear witness to that particular experiment in Ningbo. His testimony was recorded in a video documentary printed in literature in Japan. Here's a little excerpt. He says, one day a Japanese plane flew over and kept circling. Then it dropped
Starting point is 01:10:53 something that looked like smoke. It was wheat flour and corn and other things. The next day people started getting sick. Three days later the tofu shops owners two children were dead and other people were getting sick and dying. Nobody could understand what had happened. My own family died, one after the other. There was misery all around. Everyone who died did so in pain and agony going into convulsions. At first the bodies turned red, then after death they turned black.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Man more than 100, roughly 100 persons died within a few days that attacked. Crazy, the wife that I've village with some kind of super plague they had developed. Chinese specialist on disease prevention and plague tells how he kept that disease from spreading to other areas. He said, on the 29th, three days after the Japanese plane came, I entered the Ningbo area that had been attacked.
Starting point is 01:11:38 The first thing I did was separate the people seriously affected, those lightly affected, and the healthy ones. Then I encircled the infected area of the attack zone with a wall about a meter deep and a meter and a half high, so the rats could not escape. 600 people were moved south. When November came, we burned everything in the enclosed area, and in this way we stopped the plague from spreading.
Starting point is 01:11:59 According to my records, 97 people died. Shit. So there's a blot bloated village with some plague. In December, just innocent villagers that were just like, yeah, let's just see what happens. Just make sure this works. So, September 1942, another attack was carried out by two units with Ishi himself commanding the operation. A survivor reports later, I was 15 years old at the time and I remember everything clearly.
Starting point is 01:12:20 The Japanese planes spread something that looked like smoke. A few days later, we found dead rats all over the village, and at the time people came down with high fevers and aches in the lymph nodes. Every day people died, crying could be heard all through the village. My mother and father, in all, eight people in my family died, I was the only one in my family left. My mother had a high fever all day, she was crying for water and clawing at her throat. Then she let out a roar like a lion and died before my eyes. Altogether,
Starting point is 01:12:50 380 people in the village died. At times, as many as 20 people died in one day. As soon as the first people started dying, Japanese came into the village wearing protective clothing and masks. They went around the village for three days, giving infections to the people. They administered two shots, one to the arm and one to the chest. Some of the people who got those shots also died. The Japanese researchers took over a house on a top of the hill, about a kilometer away from the attack area to use as a vivisection laboratory.
Starting point is 01:13:19 We were told that if we went to a house at the top of the hill, we would get treated. My friend told me that his wife went to the house for treatment, later was seen strapped to a table with her body split open. Her feet were still moving, there's no doubt that she was dissected alive. UGH! These successful air attacks showed the disease could be delivered by air, and so the army doctors redoubled their efforts to produce and accumulate rats and fleas. Still imperfections remained in the system. The early attacks have been all carried out by slow, low-flying planes that were effective against peaceful, unarmed villages.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Yeah, fucking assholes. Battlefield conditions would be far more demanding. Each one wanted to have the ability to deliver pathogens from higher altitudes, and he started developing a series of bombs that could deliver rodents and insects from great heights. That's so weird to me. Just dropping off rap bombs, dropping off flea bombs.
Starting point is 01:14:06 The test ground in Andes started seeing drops from higher altitudes using different kind of prototypes and biological bombs. Early attempts at proving that explosives were not practical. Since the detonation would kill the insects or the rats, which makes sense. Glass bombs were experimented with. And then, each of you remember Japan's kind of ceramic
Starting point is 01:14:21 heritage. He went and deviledges where traditional kilns had turned out ceramic wares and ordered bombs made to exist's kind of ceramic heritage. He went into villages where traditional kilns had turned out ceramic wares and ordered bombs made to exist exact kind of specifications. How strange man ceramic bombs containing little fleas or whatever just dropped from planes way up in the air, just dropping disease.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And that almost happened in the US is his new ceramic bombs were almost dropped in the US. The plan for this was called Operation PX. And it was going to be a submarine was going to approach the American shore, a special submarine that had like, it could have these little planes inside of it in the special little area that then could, you know, when they surfaced, it could like launch four little kind of sea planes. And it would launch these little planes, you know, off the coast. And they would drop their plague and cholera and other planes, you know off the off the coast and then it would drop their plague and
Starting point is 01:15:06 Collar and other pastions, you know kind of bombs and then the submarine crews will run ashore carrying more terms. The entire tack was a plan to it was planned as a suicide mission and the project moved forward from a foundation of biological warfare intelligence provided by Ishi in unit 731 was finalized at march 26 1945 then at the last moment thank god general yoshe hero chief of the general staff stepped in and ordered the plan scrapped he reason that if bacteriological warfare is conducted it will grow from the dimension of war between japan and america to an endless battle of humanity against bacteria japan will earn the derision of the world oh thank, thank God somebody was thinking straight. So there's little doubt though, you know, if the war went on quite a bit longer, you probably
Starting point is 01:15:49 could have found a new general that he could push this through on and something horrific would have happened to, you know, San Diego or San Francisco or someplace. Okay, now before we write too long here on the how could Japan be so evil trained, let's take a quick look at America's actions around this time. You know about two weeks before the finalization of Operation PX America brought a new weapon into the war with Napalm. They used it on an incendiary attack on a large lower class, excuse me, neighborhood of Tokyo.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Even amongst the almost continuous air raids of Japan, the great Tokyo air raid stood out as being the most devastating prior to the most devastating for Japan in general, prior to the atomic bomb drops and Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and estimated 100,000 civilians burned to death by a combination of conventional incendiaries and America's new contribution to modern weaponry, Napalm. I did not know that until this week, man. We fucking Napalm to 100,000 civilians. Think about how evil we make terrorists out to be. Think about how evil we, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:48 like a bin Laden person, we make him out. We still hate him for what he did. You know, the 9-11 attacks, a couple thousand people. What if, you know, and we should, by the way, that was evil, but what if we had killed, you know, or if somebody killed like a hundred thousand of our citizens was like napalm? think about that, like the scale of that. It's just, oh my God, man, it's unfuckin' believable.
Starting point is 01:17:10 You know, all these people, and they didn't die while we were in the midst of killing soldiers. It's not like they were just unavoidable collateral damage. We just burned up a neighborhood, just random people, non-combatants. World War II was just full of so much evil. Man, God, I hope our species never goes there again, at least not on a global scale. Oh, hopefully ever again.
Starting point is 01:17:28 And then on August 15th, 1945, Japan announced this surrender. World War Two is over for them officially on September 22nd when they signed their surrender. And then, you know, almost all the evidence of Unit 731's atrocities disappear. At the end of the war, Japan, you know, they expected a Soviet thrust in the Manchuria, and so the facilities of Unit 731 and its branches were blown up. Evidence was destroyed. The remaining logs are executed. Documents are gone. The fortress, you know, Zongma is destroyed. Center of Ping Fang, all that stuff is destroyed. Few other facilities do remain standing to this day. The staunch building in Nanjing, the service is home to Unit 1644, sometimes called the Tama unit.
Starting point is 01:18:05 It's now used as a hospital, so that's cool. People can visit the rooms on the second floor where rats and fleas were once raised. They can visit the third floor where infected Maruda were, you know, vivisected. Oh, man, a skeleton crew stayed behind in China to carry out the destruction of these facilities. All the major part of the staff and their families feeling that the Soviets breath was, you know, right on their necks, they cleared out Manchuria. Ishi boarded a train for getting the hell out of there, took films and records with them, ended up returning to Japan by plane, and then a short time later, you know, he
Starting point is 01:18:35 made a deal, got it, got to live his life, and that's it, man. That's a story, Unit 731. And before we hit some closing thoughts on some top five takeaways, let's remind ourselves that evil didn't just exist in the 1930s and 1940s. It still is alive today, as evidenced by the subhuman comments of various idiots of the internet. Under a video called most atrocious unit 731 experiments, YouTuber user, Azeen Baman says USA should have bombed their ass even more and burned them to the ground. No, dumb shit, they shouldn't have. The average Japanese civilian wasn't doing this. We shouldn't burn any civilization to the ground ever, because no entire civilization
Starting point is 01:19:23 is evil. I hate shit like that. I hate hearing people say stuff recently like, you know, when we just nuke North Korea, because it's fucking evil. You're non-complex thought having Motherfucker. You know who hates the North Korean government more than any American could? Millions of North Korean citizens who have had their lives destroyed by that dumb shit, Kim Jong-un. No, they're the ones getting fucks more than anyone.
Starting point is 01:19:45 But there's always those people, did no come, no come. That's the same guy who never fought in high school but would stand outside of a fight and just yell, hit him, hit him, hit him. Ah, dumb shit. User samurai Ray posts, what a hoax just like the Holocaust.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Man, Holocaust deniers. They are right up there with flat earthers for they're just the world's most willfully ignorant people. And Ray, once he's able to let his feeble mind go to a place of Holocaust denial, of course, can add 731 to that list. He can deny that as well. I've met a few deniers and of course, my life, every single one of them carried themselves in a way where they not only clearly thought they were intelligent,
Starting point is 01:20:25 they thought they were more intelligent than the people who just believed these stories. You know, they were one of the few, smart enough to see through the bullshit. Got dumb people who think they're just geniuses are the most just annoying dumb people to be around. Errogant ignorance. It's the most insufferable kind. Just keep leaving in the Holocaust, buddy. Okay, man.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Keeps to all their lies. Ba, ba, ha, ha, ha, ha. Have fun being sheep, bro. Me, I think for myself, man, I look at someone who's just accepted centuries of compounded scientific knowledge or well documented history or people with first 10 knowledge regarding the subject matter, people who studied in their fields for years.
Starting point is 01:21:03 And I just think, you know, you ain't tricking me. Nah, nah, you ain't get one over on me. I can read, I can read stuff on clickbait sites and the onion that I don't understand is satire. And I can subscribe to YouTube vlogs and TMZ and scan Reddit subgroups and check out Facebook memes. And I know the truth. No fake news for this genius.
Starting point is 01:21:21 You got PhD in history? Well, I see that and I raise it with the PhD that I have and I ain't falling for your bullshit So you can tell you're fucking Jewish illuminati overlords living in their secret control bunkers and Enough with their white guilt lies But buddy unit 731 was committed by the Japanese not by Aryans. Oh, oh yeah, oh shit, okay, well, so says you. So says you, man, so says you, whatever, man, everything that comes out of your mouth is alive. Better do do.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah, fuck. User Rave Taco also does not possess a firm understanding of history, making that clear with the post. This makes the Nazis look like saints. No dude, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. The Nazis also did horrific medical experiments on humans. Nothing makes the Nazis look like saints.
Starting point is 01:22:10 The Nazis always look like Nazis. Nothing saintly about the torture and brutal extermination of over 10 million civilians in death camps. When you count not only, you know, the Jewish people who died, but gypsies, political dissidents, mentally ill, Jehovah's Witnesses, priest, homosexuals, various other Slavic and Polish people, not deemed Aryan enough to be worthy of life. Jewish people who died, but gypsies, political dissidents, mentally ill, Jehovah's Witnesses, priest, homosexuals, various other Slavic and Polish people,
Starting point is 01:22:26 not deemed Aryan enough to be worthy of life. So you know what, don't ever use a sentence again that includes a phrase, makes the Nazis look like saints. All that does is make you look like a moron. And then the best comment I've come across so far in all of my itty of the internet searches that totally made my week.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I'm not getting so happy when I saw this, so happy. YouTube user Colin Dijeron, having no idea which video I might look at this week to pick comments from posted Dan Cummins. I'm not an idiot of the internet. He posted that in this thread where I got the other comments from, oh my god, that was so cool. Colin, thank you so much. I hope I got your name right, DZ, URI, SIN. That was fantastic. Not sure if you left that comment on a bunch of videos to see, you know, Creciods that I would find it, or if you just knew, yep, there's some idiot gold
Starting point is 01:23:15 in this thread. No, you are not an idiot, Colin, you are a fucking champion. Thank you. All right. So, so why do the Japanese army, you know, research and develop bacteriological weapons? You know, why, why do they commit all this evil? You know, I know that we know the general reason was just to help win the war. But why specifically this? Well, because it was a way to kill a large number of people theoretically at a low cost, you know, is what they did more immoral than dropping atomic bombs
Starting point is 01:23:51 on civilians or nae paulman, a neighborhood? I'm not sure, I'm not sure, you know, what's worse, torturing 3,000 innocent people to death or incinerating a few hundred thousand, you know, with the bombs, I don't think it is worse. I think it just seems worse because the intimacy involved, you know, both examples are people killing other people in a way that leads them to believe that the what they're doing will help the cause. They think is, you know, just, which is, you know, winning the war for their side,
Starting point is 01:24:19 even if it means the loss of, you know, innocent lives. Yeah, and in that way, the unit 731 killings are, are actually, I don't know. I guess somehow less abhorrence to me, maybe than the Holocaust killings because the Holocaust killings were, were done just more out of just racial hatred than in help than, than to help win the war. I mean, convincing those 10 plus million people to fight on behalf of Germany would have served the Nazis far better, you know, for their war effort than exterminating them did. However, reducing humans, not just wartime collateral damage, but viewing them as nothing more than lab rats, that is especially troubling to me.
Starting point is 01:24:54 It's so dehumanizing. You're not just killing them. You're taking away every last ounce of dignity and humanity from them. You know, you're giving them a front row seat to sustain an ultimate evil, then you are killing them. So I guess in that way, the unit 731 killings bother me more than the atomic bombings. Maybe to bother me about the same as the holocaust that I don't know, it's all so super fucked up. I think the real takeaway from this is that war is horrible.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Always, people die, always, and not all those people are bad, not all those people signed up to fight in a perfect world. Bad guys will be evil cartoons in the world will be definitely better, not having them around. And I just hope that this technology advances, we can kill the regimes of our enemies and war and not take out their underlying innocent populations. You know, like again, using North Korea as an example, take out Kim Jong-un, take out his top military commanders, but somehow leave the rest of his army, you know, the lower ranks poor bastards
Starting point is 01:25:45 Just try not to end up in a state labor camp leave them alive give them a chance to their new life You know chance to accept new orthodoxy the Japanese example would be great to have the technology to snuff out doctor issues Snuff out here a hido and thousands of other high ranking officers get rid of those fucking rapy soldiers Somehow leave the rest alive not have to bomb them But for now at least all that's just a fantasy. So until it's not a fantasy, let's just try not to go to war. Let's try and use diplomacy whenever possible. And then when we do go to war, let's, you know, which I know is inevitable sometimes,
Starting point is 01:26:15 let's, let's never allow ourselves to sink as low as Dr. Ishi did. Always realize that if you're, if you're trying to take the world over and remake it in your country's image, that if your country's image is a place where a monster, like Dr. Ishi, is seen as a patriot, then your image doesn't deserve to be remade into fucking anything. And finally, I just think it's good to hear these stories sometimes because, like Winston Churchill,
Starting point is 01:26:37 AKA George Santillana said, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. So let's not repeat it. So let's not repeat it. But let's do repeat a little more of today's episode with some top five takeaways. Time, shock, tough, five takeaway. Number one, at least 3,000 men, women and children were infected with lethal diseases and or raped and or pressurized gas, frozen and or tortured. In other means, an often dissected wall still alive at the hands of doctors, the people supposed to protect us from pain and disease in the late 1930s and early 1940s at the hands
Starting point is 01:27:14 of the Japanese researchers at Unit 731. Number two, the Unit 731 staff dehumanized their victims, referring to them as logs instead of people. Dehumanize any group enough, whether it be along racial, sexual, religious, or other 131 staff dehumanized their victims, referring to them as logs instead of people. Dehumanize any group enough, whether it be along racial, sexual, religious, or other lines, and you can become as evil as those doctors. It's okay only to wish death upon assholes, I think, I hope. Or if not, I might be a monster.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Number three, Dr. Ishi got away with it. Never even went to trial for his crimes. If we really want to reduce tragedies like this in the future, monsters like Ishi cannot go unpunished. If any of you ever invent a time machine, please go back and kill Dr. Ishi before he dies of cancer. Do it for me. Do it for both jangles.
Starting point is 01:27:54 4. Had the war gone on a little while longer, Dr. Ishi may have persuaded his military superiors to carry out a large scale biological warfare attack on the US. Imagine if the plague had hit San Diego, Seattle, Los Angeles. Now, if you're sitting in traffic in one of those cities right now, listen, you might think, well, yeah, wouldn't be so bad to take kind of thin things out a little bit around. Now, but really think about how dangerous these types of weapons are. Like, I like the walking dead, but I don't want to live it. Please let no one be preparing biological weapons again.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Number five, new info, new evidence of the Unit 731 war crimes was released by the Museum of Evidence of War crimes this past August. A museum built on the site of Unit 731 in Harbin, in Harbin, China, including written confessions of germ war criminals, a transportation record of human experiments, old photos of unit soldiers, and an incubator for producing the plague. It happened, user rave taco, yadami, it happened. Time suck, tough, five take away. Well, that's unit 731. It has been sucked.
Starting point is 01:29:04 That one was painful, man. So much dark shit. It didn't even make the episode all of it. Man, I came across so much more that it was, I didn't even include it. Kind of sad when the subject has so much torture and death that all that torture and death starts to just seem redundant. Special thanks to time suckers Hunter, Ebnet, Keegan Purcell, Ethan Sacks, Chris Cook, Jennifer Butler, Adam Baumhover, Josh Tangerine, Austin
Starting point is 01:29:25 Stork, Chris Reed, Will Brown, Leo Marler, and anyone else I missed for suggesting today's topic. I hope you liked it. You lose a fina worship and suckers. Thanks to Sydney Shives for managing the time suck emails. Social media is always dependable as shit that one. Big thanks to Jesse Dobner for editing this episode. So thorough, so fast, hit him up, Jesse Dobner at Outlook.com, J-E-S-S-E-D-O-B-N-E-R at Outlook.com for editing work. Also, Time Sucker Jeremiah Hacksord works with a great charity helping Lakota American Indian families on the Pine Ridge Reservation. This is a reservation, Chief Crazy Horse was supposed to have moved back to when the US government double crossed this people with the black hills, you know, deal.
Starting point is 01:30:06 It's also the side of the 1890s wounded knee massacre. If you ever heard of that, and if you're interested in helping these proud people, if the chief crazy horse episode was a special one for you, you can go to www.familiesworkingtogether.org. Families working together helps through the improvement of housing, providing food, clothing, furniture, and household items, providing social activities for children. Their goal is to eradicate poverty by improving sustainable livelihoods through self-food production, housing, and sanitation improvement, and on the job training, with an emphasis on enabling individuals to work towards becoming self-sufficient. And again, that's all that pine Pine Ridge reservation for the Lakota people. Jeremiah is Choctaw. And I don't know how much power he really has to hand out names, but he did say in his email that walks with Bojangles is my new honorary Choctaw brave name. And I'm
Starting point is 01:30:56 gonna fucking take it. I'm running with it. I like that man. Walks with Bojangles. So thank you, Jeremiah. The darkness continues on Monday. I had already picked it before I knew what this bonus episode would be. Normally, don't like to go this dark back to back, but you know, it's just going to happen. It's BTK. BTK, a lot of you people have been asking for him since the beginning of the suck, the bind, torture, kill, serial killer, Dennis Raider, the devil of which it's all. This dude is like the zodiac killer. If the zodiac killer would have kept tormenting the police with letters referencing his superior skills and
Starting point is 01:31:27 kills over 25 years after he started. So if you like the zodiac killer episode, you'll like this one. He terrified an entire city for almost three full decades. And then he finally fucked up. Thank God. And he's sitting in prison today, which is a bummer. He should have been executed. I know very little, I knew very little about him a week ago. Pretty fast in a right now. Pretty interesting story. And you can suck it right after you polish off those Thanksgiving leftovers. All right, now time to see what the cult of the curious has been up to with some time-sucker updates.
Starting point is 01:32:02 First update, some fantastic new flat earth fuckery sent to me by Derek Wright, Danny Olvotsky, Darren Shefei, and numerous other time suckers. A lot of people on Twitter sent this my way. A 61-year-old limo driver, slash complete fucking idiot named Mike Hughes, has spent the past few years building a steam powered rocket out of salvage parts in his garage.
Starting point is 01:32:26 You heard that right. He's built a steam powered rocket out of salvaged parts in his garage. His first test of the rocket will also be the launch date tomorrow, this Saturday, when he straps into his homemade contraption and attempts to hurdle over the ghost town of Amboi, California. He'll travel about a mile at a speed of roughly 500 miles per hour. Well, maybe in theory, he will. And then I'm guessing he will possibly die in a fiery crash.
Starting point is 01:32:51 He says, if you're not scared to death, you're an idiot. It's scary as hell, but none of us are getting out of this world alive. I like to do extraordinary things that no one else can do. And no one in the history of mankind has designed, built, and launched himself in his own rocket. That's an actual quote. Oh, this sure haven't, Mike, because it's really fucking dumb. They definitely haven't, if they're a limo driver, and not a rocket scientist,
Starting point is 01:33:13 and they haven't done it because, yeah, it's just, it's preposterous. No one has also ever tried to eat 10 pounds of their own shit in under three minutes, or turn their balls into a pair of earmuffs, or open to food truck that sells nachos, may not have gravel and fingernail clippings, because those ideas are also very stupid.
Starting point is 01:33:31 And here's an even better quote from Mike, he says, I don't believe in science. Of course, he says that. His main sponsor for the rocket is Research Flat Earth. He says, I don't believe in science. I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics, be sure you do. And how things move through the area
Starting point is 01:33:45 about the certain size of rocket nozzles and thrust. I love how he includes that. I know about aerodynamics and fluid dynamics, and you know, how big a fuck in the hole is at the end of a rocket, I gotta take measure. But then he goes, but that's not science. That's just formula. There's no difference between science and science fiction. That's not the one that's just formula. There's no difference between science and science fiction.
Starting point is 01:34:05 That's not the one that's real quotes. There's no difference between science and science fiction. God damn it. This guy is so dumb. He truly may be dead by the time he hear this. And if he is, if he dies, as you're hearing this, still not too soon to laugh, still not too soon. You don't get to be this reckless and idiotic
Starting point is 01:34:20 with your life and have anyone feel sorry for you if you die. Not one bit. He plans to parachute back down to Earth after launch and then announced a plan to run for governor. That's fantastic. And later he wants to go into space. So you know, he can prove once for all that the Earth
Starting point is 01:34:34 is actually a flat disk surrounded by an ice wall, which is what he believes. Ah, flat Earthers, you morons really do give the rest of us a lot of laughs. So thanks for that, I guess. Next update comes in from David, I'm gonna say his name right here because he put it in for me. David Yesback. David Yesback, regarding me saying that Bigfoot couldn't have anything to do with the the outlaw of past incident because Bigfoot isn't real. You know, I said that because if I said if he was real, why hasn't, you know, he showed up in at least one image from Google Earth.
Starting point is 01:35:03 So Derek writes are scooping David writes, hey, damn the suck master supreme the holiest of the left testicle Odd thought about Bigfoot and Yeti concerning your Google Earth from Mark. How many elephants have you found on Google Earth? How many whales? Gorillas the point I'm making is you don't really see animal life for the most part from satellites I am not saying I believe a large ape lives in the forest. I'm just stating that a lack of evidence of something does not mean it can't exist. Yours truly the moron of Michigan, David yes back. And he included the moron of Michigan.
Starting point is 01:35:34 I did not throw that, I did not disparage him. I like David. And David, you really made me think, that was a great point. Now when that point first came in, I was like, damn, that's true. I have never seen an elephant on Google Earth. Maybe Sasquatches are out there,
Starting point is 01:35:47 but David, then I did Google finally, I Googled Google Earth Elephants, and I found many. I found many pictures taken from satellites of elephants. So many, so many pictures. Bigfoot, not on there, right? Bigfoot, not on the picture, because I also Googled that. So I was like, okay, well, let's be fair,
Starting point is 01:36:07 and let's see if a Sasquatch shows it, if I Google Sasquatch, Google Earth. Nope, just blurry images. So, so I still don't think he exists. Or, or maybe he does, but like the old Mitch Hedberg joke, maybe he just really blurry. Do you guys remember that joke?
Starting point is 01:36:23 You know, Mitch Hedberg, man, rest in peace, that guy. Maybe Bigfoot is blurry. That's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me. There's a large out of focus monster roaming the countryside.
Starting point is 01:36:37 That was the best headberg impression I could must've brought. Last update from a fellow rig in Idaho kid, man, all hometown, where I'm gonna be for Thanksgiving. By the time you're listening to this, where I've been for Thanksgiving, regarding my old high school mascot from San River High, this savage. I'd said that in the crazy, chief crazy horse episode
Starting point is 01:36:56 that when I graduated in 1995, this mascot was still very inappropriate. It was still a wild-eyed brave, Tomahawk in hand looking ready to scalp, because that's what was painted on the gym wall. Well, apparently, the mascot is still the savage, but it's also less offensive. Jordan Roche wrote in saying,
Starting point is 01:37:12 Hey, Dan, as a fellow Rigonite and Time Sucker, I love listening to this podcast. Thank you, Jordan. I just wanted to let you know that the Sam River High School mascot is still the savage, but the artwork of a crazy, I'd Native American has been replaced by blonde Scandinavians on furry ponies. The man has no shirt and no nipples.
Starting point is 01:37:32 Keep sucking. A blonde nipple-less San River savage. Less offensive maybe? I don't know. Definitely weirder, definitely weirder. Thanks Jordan, and thanks for listening in from Riggins. I love hearing that. And thanks to all of you who wrote in this past week
Starting point is 01:37:46 Man, sorry, I can't fit all your updates into the show. I will fit tons more into the secret suck when that comes out It's gonna be fantastic Thanks time suckers. I need a net. We all did And that's all for today, guys. Thanks for continuing to listen. By the way, when I read people's emails, I just take what they saw. I, you know, if you listen to that,
Starting point is 01:38:12 cheap craze yours that I have switched to American Indian, but I'm not gonna be crazy about it. And, you know, re-correct other people's verbiage if they choose to say Native American. And if you listen to that episode, you also know, you know, that a lot of people are fine with both.
Starting point is 01:38:23 So I just wanted to say that. So I didn't get any emails. For that specifically, I'm sure that a lot of people are fine with both. So, I just wanted to say that so I didn't get any emails. For that specifically, I'm sure there's other stuff I'll get emails for. But thanks for continuing to listen. Thanks for telling your friends so much. Seriously, I am so thankful right now about what you guys just for you guys. And for you guys spreading the suck, word of mouth spreads a podcast like nothing else. Hope you did have a great Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 01:38:43 Don't torture and or kill anyone for any reason, including medical advancement. And keep on sucking, keep on sucking some more. Keep on sucking, keep on sucking, keep on sucking, keep on sucking some more. Keep on sucking, keep on sucking. 깊어서게 깊어서게 깊어서게

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