Timesuck with Dan Cummins - Bonus 14 - Oak Island Mystery!

Episode Date: December 15, 2017

What is the Oak Island Mystery? Why have been teams of people been digging hundreds of feet into the ground for over 200 years there? Is there buried pirate treasure? Aztec gold? Secrets of the Knights Templar? Bojangles’ missing leg? His missing eye? What is that island hiding? Anything at all? Will anything be found? Has anything been found? So many questions! Lives have been lost trying to solve that island’s mysteries. And I lost a lot of sleep trying to figure them out myself. So many crazy possibilities for what could be buried on Oak Island and we examine a lot of them and give a nice timeline of the digs in today’s so many shafts, so much Oak Island mystery edition of Timesuck! Trouble with the APP or new website? Email BitElixir! (you'll have to copy and paste - sorry) [e-mail] Merch - https://badmagicmerch.com/ Want to try out Discord!?! https://discord.gg/tqzH89v Want to join the Cult of the Curious private Facebook Group? Go directly to Facebook and search for "Cult of the Curious" in order to locate whatever current page hasn't been put in FB Jail :) For all merch related questions: https://badmagicmerch.com/pages/contact Please rate and subscribe on iTunes and elsewhere and follow the suck on social media!! @timesuckpodcast on IG, @timesuckpodcast on Twitter, and www.facebook.com/timesuckpodcast

What is the Oak Island mystery? Why have teams of people been digging hundreds of feet into the ground for over 200 years there? Is there buried pirate treasure? As take gold, secrets of the night's Templar? Bojangles missing leg? His missing eye? What is that island hiding?

Anything at all? Will anything ever be found? Has anything been found? So many questions. Lives have been lost trying to solve that island's mysteries. And I lost a lot of sleep trying to figure them out myself this week. So many crazy possibilities for what could be buried on Oak Island, and we examined a lot of them.

And given a nice timeline of the digs and today's so many shafts, so much Oak Island mystery, addition of TimeSuck. Begone loose with Fina. Thanks to Appleton, Wisconsin TimeSuckers who came out on a Wednesday in the cold and the snow this past week. Small but mighty and fantastic crowd. Really nice talking to you guys afterwards. Thanks to Madison's big crowd last night, a big fantastic crowd. More shows in Madison this weekend, grab tickets fast if you're going to

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So what is Oak Island and where is it? Well, it's 140 acres of hardwood that's been slammed right up inside your mom. Aggressive, too much. No, it's 140 acres of hills, hardwoods, and marsh, privately owned islands, one of about 350 islands that dot the picturesque Mahon Bay landscape of Nova Scotia, Canada.

The town of Mahon Bay has been a treasure. Since 1754, according to Mahon Bay.com and nowhere else, by the way, did not really busy week, didn't do as much pronunciation checkin', as I normally do on geographical places. So maybe it's Mahoney, I'm gonna go with Mahone, cause that's how I, as you know, my pronunciation instincts are not good.

So I don't know, it looks fantastic. It looks fantastic. Also according to MahoneVay.com, the word Mahone is derived from a French term for the speedy low-lying craft used by pirates to stash their booty and Escape the authorities a lot of pirate talk today plays with the Oak Island legend for sure the British colonized the area in 1753 Bringing European settlers to the lands of what is present day loon in Berg County Protestant settlers from Germany and Switzerland farmed a large plots of land in an area that was better suited for more marine-like endeavors

Mahon Bay soon became known for its fine shipbuilding yards, fishing fleets, large, breasted women. Average cup size for the women there is an F. It's incredible. The biggest breast in the world. Way bigger than a D cup. It was poor women of my home bay in Loonenberg County. A lot of back problems. Most back problems were capital of any group of women in the world. So it's a bay located on the Atlantic coast of Nova Scotia, Canada, along the eastern end of the Atlantic, Loonenburg County. Nova Scotia is just a bit east of Maine.

Bangor as the crow flies only 220 miles from Oak Island. The easternmost coast of Maine is about 30 miles from the westernmost coast of Nova Scotia. Nova Scotia means New Scotland and Latin. And it's the first area of present day Canada to have been permanently settled by Europeans. Oh, and the large breast tank was completing utter nonsense. Damn, you loose the fina, putting lies in my very mouth. Sorry for the sympathy pain.

You have been feeling, you know, ladies suckers. Or if you happen to be an F cup or bigger yourself, you know, I hope you, I don't know how you do it. I hope you have a solid support bra budget at your disposal. I don't know how you run or you're doing anything with that. God bless you, if you can manage it, incredible course strength, I guess.

You know, you gotta relieve that inevitable spinal pressure. I really, I don't understand the physics. I really don't. My pecs are at the edge of boobs sometimes sometimes I feel like right now and I run it. They bounce a little bit. I don't care for it. I don't care for that feeling. On 1605, French colonists established Port Royal, the capital of what would become known as Acadia, a colony of New France that would last until his British conquest in 1713 to French initially established tribulations with the indigenous people of the area. The mickmax, I did look up that, right?

Acadia guessing on the pronunciation. Mickmax solid. Thanks, thanks MSS stuff on YouTube. Thanks mickmax for being one of about one Native American, excuse me, excuse me see, it's a hard habit to break. American Indian, you know, tribes on Earth with a very easy to pronounce name for a bad pronunciation, why do it? So yeah, so the indigenous people, the McMax, the Malasleet, the McMax among the original inhabitants of the area around Oak Island itself, and happening in the area for roughly 10,000

years. So they've been living around Oak Island for a while, living off the land, small villages along the coast and rivers of the area. Okai land, a few people have lived there, here and there, like actually on the island, has never been the source of a large settlement for anyone. Probably, you know, just because it's tiny. It's never had much more than one or two private residences on it at any one time,

because it's a very small island. It's only a mile long. I didn't realize Okai land was that small. It's only a mile long Less than half a mile wide. So not very big. Never reaches a height of more than roughly 30 feet You know roughly 10 meters above sea level the closest towns to Okai land are Mahon Bay the town There is the bay itself and then the town of Mahon Bay Loonenberg and Chester Mahonbe is seven and a half miles, 12 kilometers away. It's a former fishing and logging town

that's now a seasonal tourist town with a history of wooden boat building, about a thousand people. I would describe it from videos and pics online. It's quaint. Each October, the town according to NovaSkosha.com, comes alive with more than 150 handmade life-sized scared crows created by local artists to show in the Maritimes fills three venues with respected

and sought after venues. Or vendors, this is a Nova Scotia Don't Miss Event. You can't miss it, you guys. You can miss the scarecrow, you can miss that all day long, but you cannot miss the antique show. No sir, it is the largest antique show in the Maritimes. How are antiques more exciting than scarecrow? Like there's antiques in every town. I can't remember the last town.

I've been through that I did not see at least one antique shop in. I have never heard of a scarecrow festival. Never heard one of those before my life, but apparently no big deal, Nova Scotia. The Maritimes or Canadian Maritimes, by the way, are the terms used to describe the region, compromised if Canada's three easternmost provinces,

New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Prince Dickhead Island. Actually, as Prince Edward Island, I don't know why that just came out of my mouth. I'm sure people there are fantastic, I've never been, I have no reason to disparage them. Loononberg is 23 kilometers, 14 miles away, and it's a fucking dump. How's that? Canada, it's so gross there. It's full of Nelson, but in bread dog molesters who'd rather eat your children than shake your hand. That's actually the town motto. Yeah, how I'm fucking intense is that? The town motto is welcome to Loononberg where we'd rather eat your fucking children than shake your hand

It might actually say eat your fucking hand. I can't remember how many fucks are in there. I of course not No, that's true. It's actually a UNESCO World Heritage Site UNESCO being the United Nations educational scientific and cultural organization probably part of the Loonenbody, right? Huh conspiracy nuts Specialized agency of the United Nations based in Paris. Actually, Old Town, Lindenburg is one of the only two urban communities in North America designed as UNESCO World Heritage Site. Who knew? Not me. 70% of the original colonial buildings from the 18th and 19th centuries continued to greet visitors with their colorful facades.

It actually is super cute. I would totally visit. Just over 2,000 people inhabit the little coastal fishing town that was one of Britain's first towns in Canada originally it was a mick-mack encampment and clam harvesting site got harvest those clams man that sounds the seventh greater than me just got a crazy visual when I said you know harvesting clam harvesting site the Brits began, they began the town as an agricultural center. It soon became a major fishing and shipbuilding center as well. It's shipyard repaired warships in both World War I and World War II. But now mostly dog molesters as you know, shameful. No Chester is 17 kilometers 10 and a half miles

northeast of Oak Island. Little town settled originally by colonists from Massachusetts, actually, who came up north following invitations by Lieutenant Governor and subsequently Governor of Nova Scotia, Charles Lawrence, the man with the first name and last name that's also a first name, Charles Larry, to settle lands taken from natives in 1755, taken from the Mick Max goddamn it It's town of Fisher's farmers primarily. Oh Charlie Larry He's a settling their lands now another little tourist town for the most part. No, it's a quaint very scenic area The former sci-fi channel show Haven which I've not seen but I did some research and finance It's based on the story called about a kid by Stephen King and it was filmed largely in Chester,

Loonenberg and Mahon Bay. So if you're a fan of that show, if you've seen that show, well then you've seen this area. Look it up if you want to feel for the Oak Island environment. Other than the occasional clashes between European settlers and the MickMack, only a few dust-ups and a few dust-ups with Americans in the Revolutionary War on the War of 1812, mostly been a kind of a quiet little area. The weather's fairly mild, maybe a little on the cold side. If you warm-blooded southerners, average high of 76 degrees Fahrenheit, 24 degrees Celsius

in July, average low of 14 degrees Fahrenheit, negative 10 degrees Celsius in the January and February. Sleepy little area of Sleepy little islands and sleepy little coastal towns. Small town living, multi-million dollar estate, summer homes, you know, saw some gorgeous colonial homes for a couple of mill, overlooking various bays and some, you know, local real estate sites.

Rich people take expensive boats out of the bay, poured middle-class tourists by fried cod and chips from little seafood shacks and hanging out on the beach. And that's what the area is now, man. You know, homeless people being, you know, drugged at night and burned in dumpsters, burned alive. And it's only an hour's drive from Halifax,

sitting about a half million people. Nice place to take a day trip. If you want to get away from the hustle and bustle of Halifax, if you're a trailer park boys fan, which I am, Julien, Ricky Randy Bubbles, and the boys, RIP Mr. Leahy, all live in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, just outside of Halifax, and also an hour away. And the dumpster hobo burning thing also nonsense, I hope you're hoping you that.

And this is where our story takes place. In a quiet rural area, in a quieter time, when a few locals thought they came across some buried treasure, some pirate treasure, and they started digging a hole that has collectively, along with new holes around it, Doug later. Actually, you know what, I put that in my notes and that's actually not correct. I started digging a hole that's become the money pit, many holes have been dug around it later, but there's only one money pit. And let's dig into a timeline on that pit and the others.

Let's dig into all the holes of Oak Island from the first dig all the way up today with a little time suck timeline. Shrap on the boot soldier, we're marching down a time suck timeline. October 1759. Charles Lawrence, old Charlie Larry, old CL. He was who was, uh, then the governor general of Nova Scotia included Oak Island in the Shorm Grant, the initial land grant establishing the town of Shorm, which is now Chester, just northeast of Oak Island. Oak Island then, uh, became the official colonial possession of four families, them in Rose, the

lynches, the sea coms, and the youngs. It is, uh, no longer possible to stay with any, any degree of certainty. How those four farming families use the islands and its proper records just were not kept. But in all probability, they would have pastored some of their livestock on the island. Yeah, that's what you were used to for. The island now connected by road to the mainland, only about 200 feet from the mainland.

In 1768, Charles Morris, an early surveyor, divided the island into 32 parcels of roughly four acres each. The first 20 ranged along the northern edge of the island, 12 more along the South Shore, and Timothy Lynch purchased land parcel number 19 from Edward Smith in 1768. Lynch's plot 19 was well towards the eastern tip of Oak Island adjacent to plot 18, which would hold the mysterious money pit. And sometime between 1768 and 1795, the original record of the sale may have been lost forever. A man named Casper Wallenhoft. What a name. Loonenberg bought the infamous plot 18.

And then in 1795, the first discovery that has led to several deaths and the dissolution of many a person's finances was made. According to Oak Island legend Daniel McGinnis, local teenage farm boy, wrote out to explore the then uninhabited Oak Island and find a place to jerk off and peace away from the watchful judging eyes of his mother. He wanted to pull a good old fashioned woodjerk, a chickitilo, if you will. What is big deal? So I jerk on woods. So I get cut on and there's finger pointing and laughing. Woods is perfectly acceptable place to jerk soft shamecock, no mess for hotel milk to clean. No suck to make stiff with shamed juice. Why laugh at chikotilo? Chikotilo jerk pioneer.

Chikotilo jerk visionary. If only sought jerk more acceptable and less mocking, maybe Chica Tilo never rassled and killed. Well, I bring Chica Tilo to Canada in 1795. Wrong continent, wrong century, wrong tale for jerking of soft-scook. Every time I do Chica Tilo now, I think at the first time listeners, and I feel tiny bit bad. Sorry if that was extremely confusing.

I hope you liked it, hail Nimrod. Yes, so parcels of land had been sold, but no one had built a homestead and there was land much more suitable for farming on the mainland nearby. So no one was farming to the, now I got cheat till in my head. Now I just fucking put him in my own head.

He's not supposed to be in my mind right now. But now I'm just picturing this little island, a coin little island, and this fucking Russian zero killer, just farming and jerking off on it. Just like Ploughfield sometimes, I sneak off behind three, and the jerk stops cocking other times. I tried to set up a, you know, babysitting business for kids,

but I get very few takeers and one customer I get I kill. So a business bad, babysitting business bad, farming not bad. Oxen do not, they stare blank, whether I jerk shame, cock or not. Okay, maybe I just purged him from my mind now. Now he's probably even harder. Okay, Daniel came across, Daniel again, he came across a small clearing which

is saucer shaped depression about four meters, right, about 11 12 feet cross. Besides it's to stood an oak with one sturdy branch locked off to correspond with the center of the hollow and old shifts block and tackle hung from this loft branch. So mysterious. What does it all mean? It has to be important. It has to be a sign. Daniel fetched two friends. Two does it all mean? It has to be important. It has to be a sign. Daniel fetched two friends. Two friends in his own age group, John Smith, Anthony Vaughan, all men under 20,

and they were excited to find some of that pirate plunder. They hoped was under the ground. The local lads began to dig. And they soon realized that they were re-excavating a circular shaft. So much, there's gonna be so much shaft talk today. Mind the shaft, general with a shaft. Then, you know, not as much, not as much so. Then you let go of the shaft. Stop touching it. Wait, what? The tough clay walls clearly bore the pick marks of whoever had originally

dug the shaft. So, you know, they're really fueling their speculation. There's just something down there. Within a meter of the surface, the boys discovered a layer of stone slabs, the rock from the, which the slabs were cut. apparently it was from the Gold River, about three kilometers, a little under two miles up the mainland coast. As if the Gold River slabs and pick marks in the clay were not evidence enough of the shaft's importance. Three meters, just under 10 feet down,

the boys struck a platform of traverse oak logs embedded firmly in the walls of the shaft. Again, so much a lot of shaft talk today. I'm trying to remember if I got my meters right. I looked up some of these, tried to do a lot of meter feet conversion. I think I got it right. The other services were to Cain,

the oak platform had evidently been there a long time. The boys pulled it out and discovered that the soil below had settled to leave a vertical gap of about half a meter, about 17 inches, encouraged by the thought that such a elaborate and laborious work probably concealed a considerable amount of treasure the men dug on with renewed enthusiasm. John Smith also quickly purchased the parcel the hole was on. Hell yeah, I did. That would be a real bummer to be, you know, tapping on a treasure chest with his shovel.

I'll then have some surveyor or some owner come out from behind the tree. Well, thanks for grabbing, that's for me boys. Thanks for getting treasure for Tika Deel. Now get the hell off this island. Let me jerk on treasure in silence. And without the prime ice. Soon realizing it was more work than the three of them could handle.

Now the lads decided to call on adult relatives and friends to help with the dig. Between six and seven meter levels down. They encountered another transverse oak platform between 9 and 10 meters. Roughly 30 feet down they found another platform, another wood platform realizing that an excavation on this scale was more than they could just handle themselves. Frustrated they hadn't found anything yet, the early diggers marked the area carefully with wooden stakes covered over the top of the pit with brushwood and branches and then went back to their normal daily routines. Daydreamer about pirate treasure.

And that is what they thought that was buried there. Of course he did. It was the age of pirates. There were pirates all over the Atlantic at that time. There were rumors of pirates frequenting Oak Island and numerous other islands around the Bay. All those islands made for good hiding places. Maybe one of those pirates had some very treasure.

You know, if you recall from time of sub 28, the Black Beard episode, the Golden Age of piracy occurred between 1690, last at a 1730 when Nova Scotia, largely unsettled by Europeans, was an ideal location for pirates to hide out. Repair ships, regroup, one of the nastiest pirates of the Golden Age, Ned Lowe, possibly a future time-sector, Ruthless pirate, who burned many a ship, supposedly tortured and killed many a sailor, rated fishing fleets who used Nova Scotian harbors as shelters and fishing stations, Lowe terrorized a New England fleet in Shelburn in 1720, and some to get some treasure in Nova Scotia. The pirate William Kid claimed to have hidden treasure before he surrendered in 1699. He's the only pirate known to actually have hidden treasure. Only one location was verified. Gardner's Island near Long Island, New York. It wasn't something elaborate, buried chest with traps

and stuff, but he quickly hit some stuff there to come back for later that he didn't get to come back for. Some people believe Nova Scotia may be one of his hiding places. If he had other hiding places, there's no real evidence that he did. In that New York one, they just interrogated him and they found it really quick. It wasn't like they had to find some fucking secret pirate map and then years later found this. Oh, shit, there's treasure here. They got it out of him. Like, oh, you left your treasure in that island. Okay, we're going to get it out. And then pirate and continued well past 1720. Two pirates were hanged on George's islands in 1785, Nova Scotia, another, Jordan the pirate, was hanged at Point Pleasant Park,

and there's the Black Rock Beach in 1809. At the same time, the Navy hanged six mutineers at Hangman's Beach on McNabb's island, just across the harbor. Yeah, man, any ship entering Halifax Harbor in 8109 had to pass between hanging and rotting corpses. Fun times, great for tourism. Welcome to Halifax Harbor, jewel of eastern Canada. On your right you'll notice our quaint and growing downtown area. A lot of fine folks and lovely shops to visit. We just about passed in Knapp's Island. You can see point

pleasant park up ahead and immediately to your left is a, it well It is a few Roddy maggot infested pirate corpses. There's also a few in the right I'll write the answer to make nabs out in there Notice the skin peeling from the skull to smell soon. We'll get away from it And we'll be off to Quaint Little Frogpot in Park. So okay Yeah, the guys thought they they found you know the X marks the spot location of Barry's pirate treasure on there But interestingly note on pirate treasure though. No Buried pirate treasure and the way we think of it from movies has ever been found ever Let me repeat that and sorry to be the fucking buzzkill

No random treasure seeker has ever ever Found some old pirate map not one time Followed it to some buried pirate treasure and dug up some gold, dug up some plunder, not once. Fucking goonies. God damn it. Making me think this was possible my whole life. Baby, Ruth?

If you can find an article about this happening, but not some wack and doodle clickbait website or crazy secondary source book, a real legitimate find, you let me know. Because I can't find anything which is shocking to me. Yeah, no treasure that's been documented. Shipwrecks have been found, including pirate ships. Treasure has been found in the sea floor, yeah, but a chest of buried treasure. Never been found in Oak Island. Never been found anywhere in the world.

There are treasures rumored to have been buried around the world. Keyword being rumored. And treasures have certainly been plundered by pirates and remain missing, but no one has ever randomly been out digging on the ground and come across a mythical chest of gold, jewels, and maybe a skull in there and some other riches. How about that shit? More on pirates later in this episode, back to that first dig. It's time past John built a house near the pit, one of the first three diggers, and he managed to acquire plots 15 to 20. You know, that's becoming the owner of the whole 24 acres at the eastern end of the island, not able to dig farther down at the moment, you know, with the tools and manpower

available. The dig was put on hold for a couple years until 1803. Then in 1803, the next adventure to help take up the challenge of the Oak Island digs was simian linds. And there are discrepancies in the story of who he was, you know, or how he came to meet with the original diggers and the owners of the land, the digger Kurt on, you know, this John Smith, he may have been a relative, may have been the Smith family doctor, may have been a family friend, may have been a traveling businessman. Hell, he may have even been a professional snake juggler. Why not?

Maybe juggled live snakes. Poisonous ones, down by the water, under the light of the full moon. And that's how he made his living, which was really hard because he put on a hell of a show, but only once a month. So he can't make a lot of money on that. And most of his potential audience is asleep at home,

because it's a shitty showtime. Whoever he was, Simian Lins was intrigued by the money pit. He or his father put together a little group of business and professional men in and around Onslo. Town of about two hours away, which became known as the Onslo company. One member of the crew was Sheriff Tom Harris. And another was Colonel Archibald, a town clerk, just to the piece, and a dude with a really cool old, timey name. Colonel Archibald, that is a name that catches your ear, right? Single 19th century ladies, they perk up a little more.

When they hear that a man named Colonel Archibald, you know, he's coming to town. They're gonna get a little more excited than if they were to hear, you know, Corporal Gary is coming to town. When Colonel Archibald heads over, you know, you put on your best dress. You accidentally bump into him

in a desperate attempt to catch his eye. When Corporal Gary swings through town, you put on your dad's overalls. You throw some mud on your face and you complain loudly about the terrible flat slunch you've had ever since you had four sandwiches for lunch. Anywho, the on-slow men did dug away steadily while Colonel Archibald puffed from his pipe and stared at them through his monocle disapprovingly. Unurthene platforms of oak logs at regular 10 foot intervals, as they cleared out more and more of the pit, they encountered other curious layers of things as well.

There are minor divergences in the accounts of what precisely was discovered at which level, but as the digging continued, layers of putty, charcoal, coconut fiber are pulled out. There was so much putty spread over one layer of oak logs according to one account that it was used to glaze the windows of more than 20 local houses. That sounds wacky to me. Here on Walker was a ship's carpenter who lived in Chester at the time who worked at the money pit. Years later he told his granddaughter Mrs. Cottonham Smith that he had seen bushels of

coconut fiber being lifted out of the shaft as the work progressed. Another very intriguing find for the Onslow Company was a large, flat stone encountered, you know, just about the 90-foot level that apparently had some sort of cryptic inscription on it. But where is this super cool stone that I would love to see and have verified by archaeologists and pyre historians? Well, John Smith was half-right through building a fireplace in his Oak Island farmhouse during the dig, and apparently he incorporated the stone into his mantle. You know, part of the keep it safe, partly to provide a conversation piece.

Uh, okay. That's, uh, just in choice. And in 1865, this, uh, very important stone was taken from the Smith Homestead, and placed on display in the window of the bookbindry belonging to AO Craten and Halifax. AO Craten was at the time treasure, uh, one of the Oak Island treasure hunting syndicates. And it was hoped that, you know, if he displayed the stone, he would encourage new shareholders to participate in the search. A witness named Jefferson McDonald's reported to have said that he saw the stone at close quarters, you know, helped move it in fact, and there was no doubt at all. There was a coded inscription upon it, and no one had been able to solve it and of course someone did an old local Irish teacher eventually translated to read

40 feet below two million pounds of buried And then a. O. Craton left the business in 1879 and a new firm was started by Herbert Craton. Oh, herb It Edward Marshall Edward son Harry was with the firm from 1890 onwards He made a statement about the stone in 1935 to treasure Hunter Frederick Blair. And there's lawyer, Reginald Harris. Well, if that is a 1935 name, I don't know what it is. Get Reginald Harris in here. Did a look at the stone.

The gist of Harry Marshall's evidence was that, he remembered the stone well, but had never seen the inscription on it because it'd been worn away by years of use as a book binder's beating stone. What? Okay, I can't handle this stone story anymore. It was used for what?

For fireplace. And then it gets used as a bookbinder's beating stone, whatever the fuck that is. And it gets worn out. And there's no longer a very important historical engraving upon it that could lead to pirate treasure. Bull shit. And why was it made in the first place?

You know, I guess when you're bearing important treasure that you wanna come back later to find, you know, you wanna leave an important clue to let people try and take it from you know that they should keep digging. Cause that makes a lot of sense. Disarmity. I see that you're after me carefully hidden plunder.

Plunder somehow buried well over almost 150 feet beneath the ground. Even though I'm a pirate and not a mining engineer or excavator known for my shovelwork, our matey will don't give up on trying to get the treasure I obviously wanted to retrieve one day, right? I would not have gone through a tremendous amount of work to get the treasure and take it and steal it and be, work so hard to hide it. But don't try to stop. Don't you stop trying to steal it for me. Just forty more feet down.

And you can take all that I work so hard to hide. Harmony! And the smartest dumbest pirate, whoever sailed the seven or sixteen seas are four or whatever. Yeah, I heard. Yeah. So, you know, I have doubts about the existence of the stone. A lot of logic problems with the story, like a lot. There are more logic holes on Oak Island than there are actual digging holes.

But yeah, this, you know, this stone inexplicably lost its inscription. I've never heard of that happening to an important artifact before. What should we do this artifact? Should we keep it under glass? Should we hide it? This is very important. No, just beat some books against it and tell we wear out the words. Then it disappeared altogether at some later point in history. Okay, so after the on-slow team supposedly found to remove this town, they kept digging. Surely, you know, shortly below this town, 90 plus feet below the opening of the earth, they began probing the soggy base of the pit with long iron rods.

I'll tell you, I'll tell you fine stuff. You dig a big hole and then eventually you just get some long, like super long iron rods, like a hundred long iron rods and you's kind of like poke around down there. That's how the pros do it. Some soggy mud poking. At the 98 foot level, those probes struck something impenetrabley hard, which extended from one side of the money pit to the other.

Water and darkness posed serious enough problems that evening they were doing this. And then they found this hard object that the onslaught men decided to resume their search at first light, which brought a grim disappointment. The money pit was now over 60 feet deep in water. One account relates that is they gathered around the opening, an unlucky member of the expedition slipped into the flooded shaft, only to sputter to the surface, shouting that the water tasted

of salt. Salt, he repeated, as his companions lowered a rope and hauled him to safety. Salt! Ah, matey, they're radiator, salt and my pirate toll. The men began trying to empty the pit by bailing it like a leaking ship. But yeah, that's not going to work. That had no effect whatsoever. Okay, so after the discouraging problem, the whole filling up was seawater. The crew took the winter off. You know, got a rig group. Let's get our heads together again. Then the on-slow crew was back at it in the spring of 1804. They dug a parallel

shaft 15 feet southeast of the old money pit to try and dig beneath the waterlogged shaft and dig under it to reach that treasure. Their new veiny shaft, their new hard veiny shaft, wait what? Their new shaft reached 115 feet without encountering any water problems at all. The tunnelers began to cut horizontally through the stubborn clay towards the money pit itself. They accomplished the first 12 or 13 feet without any serious problems. Lesson three feet now separating the excited miners from the spot where they believed the treasure lay. Oh man they're excited. And then water again, dammit dam you Luciferina in your sea salt and your sea salt water of despair. Back to square one. Now they have two

wet shafts, which is a lot of people's dreams But not these guys. They didn't want to wet shafts I wanted one dry shaft their further from finding the treasure than they were when they started so they disband and they return to being farmers Fisherman boat makers little poorer probably a lot more depressed than they were before this all started Like this second failure the money pit sits abandoned for nearly 50 years, just an old abandoned shaft. A couple of shafts, just no one cares about anymore. By the time the Truro company is formed in 1849, one of the original three money pit discovers Daniel McGinnis. He's already in his grave, another two Smith and Vaughn, both in their 70s. The mysterious treasure they've been trying to locate since they were teenagers, you know, still's still a ludium. The Truro Group, which is formerly inaugurated in 1845, consisted of John Pitblato or James,

John or James, I guess, a historical accounts very, John Gamill, Robert Krillman, Adam Tupper, Jonathan McCulley, McCulley was their site manager and charge of all operations in Pitblato, which responsible for drilling and andcillary activities. And then work on the island began in earnest in 1889. of all operations in Pitplato, which responsible for drilling and andcillary activities. And then work on the island began in earnest in 1849. On the 40 years since the onslaught digs, the original shaft and their secondary shaft both collapsed.

You know, the start from scratch needed to get another shaft to be dug. You know, sometimes when things are messed, you just gotta, you gotta bring a new shaft into the mix. The things started off all right. They were, they were well over 80 feet down after two weeks worth of digging Their luck was holding as far as the water was concerned it was

Saturday and they broke for the evening in church next morning Then when they returned the money pit was 60 feet deep in water exactly as it had been when it bested the onslow men in 1805 they bailed as vigorously as their onslow dudes had done Right before those same guy and it was pointless as it was the first time around H-05. Once that water gets there you can't just fucking bucket it out. Not gonna work guys, sorry. They only had one valve sludge for digging and they lost it about 110 feet down when they were drilling their first exploratory hole and they couldn't afford a new one I guess. Not one like they had the first time. They decided to explore the depths of the chef with a pod auger. Now this

was a piece of prospecting equipment mainly used in the mid-19th century by mining speculators looking for coal. The key to its operation was a vital component known as a valve sludger. This was a 32 for raising the core samples. It worked on the principle of one-way valve which would pick the Jerome ins, which would pick things up, you don't kind of like shoot it back to the top. And the Jerome ins tragedy was their need to economize on equipment as it cut its way downwards. You know, unfortunately, that first valve, such as they had, what was the only really good one, and the replaced one didn't work as well, and it really couldn't bring much to the surface.

And again, I think it's kind of like, you know, not a minor. So it's a little, it was a little hard for me to wrap my head around exactly how this thing is sucking stuff back up to the surface. But the only thing we need to know for this story is that the first thing they used to poke exploratory holes would bring, could bring like, you know, let's say a pirate coin. It could bring something like that up, I don't know how, but it could apparently do it back up to the surface. The second thing could drill down, but not get something as big as a coin back up. It could just get like tiny little grains of wood and dirt and it just couldn't pull

much. It's supposedly this second drill, the one that couldn't pull things back up, that's the one that went through. They're pretty sure. These guys, two boxes or casts or chests, excuse me, of loose metal. So obviously pirate treasure, some gold coins. But it just couldn't bring into that gold to the surface so they'd know for sure. How convenient. I mean disappointing.

At the 98 foot level down, precisely the depth with the on-slow men had hit with their iron probing rods 40 years earlier. The pod auger, the second one, went through his spruce platform, nearly six inches thick, subsequent drillings again hit the 98 foot platform, and the side of a chest or some kind of sarcophagus, small splinters of wood came up from it, and McCully noted with commendable precision and attention to detail that the drill behaved oddly and erratically as though revolving chisel tip was struck repeatedly against a wooden obstruction parallel to one side of the descending drill. That's the conclusion he came to. Coconut fiber also came up and very

significantly through your four links of gold chain, perhaps from a necklace or bracelet. Couldn't bring back coins because if it's designed, but it could bring back little pieces of things that could indicate coins on your buy. This could not seem fishier to me. Let me get this straight. Let me get this straight. You had some sort of device that could retrieve gold coins in treasure if it encountered those things. But that thing of a jigger broke.

So you went out and instead of just waiting for a proper replacement, you just got a thing that could drill like the first thing, but just left you to guess about what you hit. It couldn't bring anything up except for maybe the tiniest link of a tiny gold bracelet or something. No actual treasure, just treasure clues is all the second thing. You do. And then you just kept drilling more holes that none of which could let you know for sure

if there was treasure, like get the fuck out of here. But that's the story. And it gets even more suspicious as it goes on. John Gamal, a major Turo company shareholder, claimed that he had seen Plit Blato, sorry about the police sirens. Again, hotel room record man, you just gotta, you gotta plow through it.

You gotta keep digging. You gotta keep digging into the story, just like Plit Blato and these wack of doodles kept digging with their shitty auger thing. So, so check out this part of the story. John Gamill, a major Turo company shareholder, claimed that he had seen Pipalato take something from the second auger, closely examined it and then pocket it when he thought no one was watching. Alright, so this guy, you know, he's watching this little fucking

tool, you know, they bring something to the surface, then he just kind of looks around like out of a movie, like, oh, I hope no one's watching. He takes something and examines it, you know, puts it in his pocket. Well Gamill, he then challenges Pipalato to show him what he had taken. And Pippa Lotto, apparently promised he would reveal the content of his pocket, but not, not now. He's going to do it at the next chairholder's meeting. And then a short time later, before the meeting, would occur. Pippa Lotto just vanishes. He leaves his country. And then years later, he dies and will never know what he took. I'm guessing he didn't take anything because this story makes no sense. This

is nonsense. Again, let me get this straight. You have tons of money invested in a treasure dick, and then you see another fellow investor pocket something, secretly pocket something from the dig that seems very important to him. You can front him. He admits he has something to value,

but then he tells you he's not gonna show it to you until the next meeting, fuck that. If you and I are on an island and we've invested a lot of our money, I've invested a lot of my money in a treasure hunt. And I finally see something interesting go on. I see you take something. Something that clearly would have to be treasure

or an important clue to treasure for you to hide it. And then you let me know you have it, but you're not going to show me what it is, right? And if you're not getting off the island buddy We're wrestling, alright. I'm either getting my ass beat where I'm getting what is in your pocket? It's gonna get violent. Alright, how could it not? That's fucking crazy. Oh, yeah, no, I'll just wait till next meeting Yeah, just go ahead and just I'll just trust that whatever you just hid in your pocket that you will actually show me that as opposed to doing Whatever you want with it. What I'm not around there. Following a bit of blood, I'll disappear into crew keeps digging, and of course they never

hit water again. Of course they hit water again like everyone else had had done previously. They noticed that it rises and falls with a tide now, so they decided to go to the beach, and they see if they can locate a flood tunnel connecting the mind shaft to the Atlantic. That's what they think now. They think it's like the pirates who have ever hit the treasure like they have one whole straight down. And then to prevent, you know, what would be thieves from taking it, they had this other tunnel coming from just under, you know, just out in the water in the beach.

Kind of 45-duty angled into the first tunnel. So if you dug, you know, a certain amount down, all of a sudden this flood tunnel would flood your shaft with water. So that's what thing has happened now. So they begin to dig at the beach. It's Miss Cove. down all of a sudden this flood tunnel would flood your shaft with water. That's what thing is happening now. So they begin to dig at the beach. It's Miss Cove. The first thing they find is a massive sheet of coconut fiber, which covered the shoreline for about 150 feet.

The fiber layer was between two and three inches deep and below it lay several more inches of tough old salt resistant eel grass, which was, however, now showing signs of decay. It had definitely been there a long time. The double blanket of eel grass and coconut fiber covered the shore between high and low tide levels. It would seem to have served two purposes to retain and transmit water like an enormous sponge and to prevent clay from passing through to clog whatever you know, lay beneath. A member of the Turo team noted the remains of an old coffer dam surrounding these amazing beach workings and thought that if it was how the original builders had done it his men could do it too.

Alright, now we get some solid logic. So the Turo team builds their own coffer dam around the zone they were investigating. They get the seawater out of the way, they dig down below the stones, and they discover a set of five fan-shaped box strains relentlessly conducting the Atlantic into the lower levels of the money pit. So they're quickly erected and you know, a copper dam in place, they began to trace the drainage system back up to the beach as it converged on the main flood tunnel leading to the money pit.

About 15 or 20 yards along, they were having to dig down, you know, four or five feet to locate the drains. And then disaster struck in the form of abnormally high tide, which then overflow their temporary coffer dam. It was constructed to take pressure from the Atlantic side, but not from the weight of inshore water, trying to flow back down to the beach and it broke and washed away.

Oh man, how convenient. I mean, terrible. The Turo team was beginning to suffer from two of the major frustrations experienced by almost all Oak Island teams sooner or later in sufficient time In sufficient funds right on balance McCulley and the shareholders decided what what the trying to rebuild the dam would be Too costly wouldn't be cost effective You know what they'd already been able to study of the artificial beach and with its drainage system and filter blankets had given them a fair idea

Of where a flood tunnel would run so they decided to try and intercept and block the main tunnel rather rather than attempt any further work on the artificial beach at Smith's Cove. Cove, drawing a line from the point where the beach drains seem to converge back to the money pit itself. They selected a likely looking point on that line and they began to dig down. The interceptor shaft, we know, should meet the flood tunnel at a depth considerably less than the presumed junction with the money pit at 110 feet after which the lower course of the flood tunnel

could be blocked. 30, 40, 50 feet, interceptor shaft cut deeper and deeper, just sort of 80 feet they gave up. They missed it. It couldn't be this deep. It still connect with the 95 foot level. So you see what they're trying to do. Now they're trying to like, so you got to you got to your pit, straight down on the island. You have this other flood tunnel coming 45 degree anglin' from the ocean down into to fill up your tunnel, your shaft with water.

But if you can intercept it with a separate straight down tunnel, before the water makes it to your tunnel, the money pit tunnel, then you could fill up that second tunnel and then hopefully block the flood tunnel and then you'd have a dry pit to dig down it. I guess that's, there's a logic. But again, what the fuck?

Let me get this straight. The main problem is that the money pit and the other shafts get flooded. You discover that original people who buried the treasure had built the dam to block the ocean and then dug flood tunnels that connected with the main shaft to flood the lower levels, some kind of treasure cavern and the shaft itself. You build your own dam to keep water from accessing those tunnels, which would then give you the ability to drain the money pit of water,

and keep more water from coming in, and give you the ability to dig wherever you want without any kind of water problems, and tell you find the treasure, but you build a shitty dam, and the tide washes away, and you don't think, let's just build a better dam, again, because this is clearly the most important thing

that we can do. Now, you think we can't afford that, but we can't afford, though, is just to dig another giant shaft and hopefully just intercept the flood tunnels going to the beach. I'm no excavator or a tunnel builder or minor or anything, but all of this just seems really illogical.

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The boy sold it to Henry Stevens and he in turn sold it to Anthony Graves who consequently became the major land owner of Oak Island. And he made a deal with Reddy's organization which entitled him to a third of any treasure they salvaged. Alright, you don't do anything silent partner, give me a third, I like it. The Oak Island Association began its work with two clear objectives in mind based on the discoveries. And disappointments of 1849 and 185050 they were determined to block off the flood tunnel

from the artificial beach at Smith's Cove and then pump out the money pit. They were convinced that a sufficiently large workforce would allow them to accomplish both tasks with comparative ease and simplicity. Okay, all right, someone with a somewhat logical plan, right? No, actually more idiots They decide not to rebuild the dam They decide not to keep the ocean from flowing back into the flood tunnels They decide to dig another interceptor interceptor shaft to try and connect with the flood tunnel and keep from reaching the money pit And they dig 120 feet down and miss the flood tunnel and then they finally decide to build a dam. No, right?

That's what they're gonna do. No Just fucking build it already. Nope, they wanted to do another interceptor shaft. These guys just love shafts, man. And then this shaft collapses on them. And then they dig again. And then the tunnels float again. And they keep going.

They acquire a steam engine that an engineer hooked up to an apparatus to pump water out of the pit. And this engine bursts, killing one man, and injuring others. Right? So now finally finally you'd think, let's go build a dam. This is not working on a plan. Nope. They just keep digging more chats. They just keep getting more floods, more holes, more water,

and then finally they give up. 1866 is the next venture and it's the Oak Island Eldorado Company now. Founded in May of 1866. One of the one of the guys that organized this with that AO Crate and remember him, he's the dipshit at the Rendon Book Bindry and Halifax, the one that supposedly wore out the fucking treasure message like a jackass. Well before he did that, he used this stone to attract new investors to the dig, of course he did. He used to use a fake rock to convince two people to part with their money.

Well the AO credit the team he puts together, they build a fucking damn to keep water from flowing into the money pit. Finally, they build one 400 feet long and 12 feet high. Water was completely cleared from inside it and then an unexpected storm hit. And the damn broke again. Oh man, if only these assholes were half as good a building dams as they were at digging shafts. Right. Uh, they're shaft game. So so much stronger than their dam game. Well, after the dam disaster, they get one of those poor, one of those pod augers again, a special drill that can bore down and retrieve little clues. Sorry, at the 130 foot deep level, they find charcoal, coconut fiber, wood fragments,

chow, coconut, and wood, you know, it has to be treasure, right? That's the three signs. The old, the old cold coconut wood trifecta. That's what used to hide treasures. Ah, maybe, go fetch me some charcoal, a scurvy dog, and some coconut. Blast me timbers, I could use some coconut and charcoal

to bury my shiny treasure and some wood with nothing but charcoal and coconuts and wood will build the best treasure pit any pirates ever built and there's hundreds of feet down very intricate with nothing but charcoal and coconut and wood built on the seven or twelve or four seas from our name isn't alabaster coconut wood. Well they dig all the way down, 150 feet, and that's all they find. And it's 1867, they give up.

No treasure, just coconut, charcoal and wood. 1878, there was not another dig on Oak Island, but a strange occurrence happened that'll be important to our tale today. So, Fiya Sellers was plowing with some oxen. On the little islands, just a hundred yards from the Monty Pit when suddenly the earth opened up underneath her, underneath the terrified animals.

They crashed down into a 10 foot hole. They almost bring so feet down on top of them. So I guess she wasn't quite over it, just the oxen were, she got lucky. So just the oxen dumped into this hole. She was able to let go of the rains. With a great deal of struggling, her husband Henry and several more brawny novice quotients.

They finally get the oxen bucket back out of the hole at the first convenient opportunity. Henry feels it with boulders and as a safety measure, you know, so there's some boulders on there. So what is this, a sinkhole, right? Is it the result of all those shasping dug? Is the earth getting a little twist cheese underneath there? Is it a clue towards getting the treasure?

I think it's just an important thing to think about for later. And no one took any further notice of this, you know, sunken, this whole kind of just opening up out of nowhere. Until Fred Blair came along the scene in 1893. He was an FU of Isaac Blair who had worked on the island in the 1860s, and he told young Fred as much as he knew of the money pit mystery. Fred's first line of attack was to amass all the written material he could find pertaining to early work on the island, which is probably two or three sentences. No. And he had to interview all the personnel

he could locate who had been involved in those early investigations. Many previous attempts had failed, but modern technology now made it possible to succeed in 1893 Blair and his associates inaugurated the Oak Island Treasure Company. In their prospectus, they said that a shaft 13 feet across and a hundred feet deep had been sunk on Oak Island before the memory of any now living. All right, this vertical shaft was connected to the sea by a tunnel several hundred feet long and at the shafts base lay large wooden boxes of jewels and precious metals. The plan was to concentrate on cutting off water from the flood tunnel at some point near the shore, again with the interceptor shafts, after which it was assumed that there would be no difficulty in pumping out the money

pit itself. Blair's new company receives such encouraging financial backing that it was able to begin work in 1894. These guys are so full of shit. At the shaft base, lay large wooden boxes of jewels and precious metals, says who? What evidence is there of that? An engraved stone tablet that no one can find, right? That stopped being engraved at some point.

Some tiny scraps of gold chain that came out of an auger, you know, a gold chain that probably belonged to one of the people working on uncovering very treasure. Probably someone dropped a pocket of wash or something. And then the auger pulled up a little bit of the chain. Some dude who may or may not have pocketed something, you know, there's that part of the story, but no one ever saw what it was.

What evidence is there of treasure? None. But, you know, back to digging, they go. And what this new crew did find after years of more holes in inevitable flooding, what did they find? They found a tiny little ball of parchment that bore the letters V and I, or something similar, possibly Roman numerals V and that's it.

Something that again I think could have fallen from a worker. With all the holes dug over the years, all the people coming in and out at the end of the 19th century is now like the worst crime scene ever. There's been so many people traipsing in and out of this place. Has the parchment since been really carefully preserved and carefully dated by historians, I don't think it has. I could find out where it is today. In December of 1900, a man of named Fred Blair

took over the O'Cowland Diggy part in the Flamboin Adventure, New York City with a background in engineering, Captain Henry Baudeauin, 1909, and the captain made bold claims about how he'd succeed, where others had failed on previous09, and the captain made bold claims about how he'd succeed where others, you know, he'd succeeded where others had failed, you know, in previous endeavors, and he convinced numerous investors to finance another dig of his, including getting $5,000 out of a young lawyer

by the name of Franklin D. Roosevelt, FDR, whose wife, Eleanor, would be Monday's suck. On August 27th, 1909, the captain Baudeuin in his entourage set up Camp Kid, right, like as in the pirate William kid on Oak Island. And if all had gone as predicted, you know, they were scheduled to have been sailing home with their share of the treasure on or before September 11th. Just getting in and out guys,

let's get in and out of there. And they show up, they drill about 30 holes, they blow some shit up with dynamite, they find nothing and they leave. And the island was again silent until 1931. 1931 William Chapelle, who had once been out of one of the managers of Blake Blair's Oak Island Treasure Company, a part owner of Chappelle's Limited with premises in Sydney, Nova Scotia. Chappelle was prospered out to allow William and three other members of his family, his son

male, other relatives, Claude and Renerick or Renwick to launch an Oak Island project in conjunction with him or excuse me with Blair. William himself had been involved in the drilling work over 30 years before when the parchment fragment had been recovered allegedly. Mel was a qualified engineer member of the Canadian Institute. He talked through the problem with professional colleagues and the consensus was that a well-cribbed shaft would be their best approach, an electric pump cable. An electric pump cable of shifting between 400 and 500 gallons a minute was brought in to hold down the water level. The shipel's first problem now

was the exact location of the money pit. You know, Baodoyne had butchered most of the older structures with all his dynamite and fucking Lucy Goosey Drillin, including the cribbing and drilling platforms with the passing of 20 years and more, or and more, most of the earlier reexcavations had collapsed. So many holes have been dug over the years. It was just hard to figure out where the original shaft was.

They basically had to play a game of who's shaft is this? Who's old, worn out shaft, am I playing with right now? Who's forgotten neglected shaft? Am I working on right now? Who's wet shaft is this? What shaft do I have my hands on? They dug into a variety of old shafts 120 and 160 foot levels that you know that those levels down They encountered some old tools and timbers

They're most likely relics from earlier expeditions. It's another problem with Okinawa now There's yeah, they find shit But they just find shit that other Pete treasure hunters had lost Further samples of coconut fiber were unearthed. No significant progress was made towards cutting off the flood water. 1932, they hired John Talbot, an engineer from New York, to do some additional site work. His team drilled for two months, reaching depths of 150 feet down and found nothing. Other than some old pieces of timber bearing Roman numerals, right? What does that mean? Did he really find him? Where are they now? Who knows?

1936 by 1937 excavations again are abandoned 1938 a new adventure took over recovery options on Oak Island, manning professor Hamilton who spent an estimated $60,000 picking around on the island between 1938 and 1943 only to find nothing again. 1950 a weird weird-looking machine, bulging with what appeared to be scientific circuitry, was brought to Oak Island in December. Its inventor told Mel Chappelle, there was a large deposit of gold within 20 feet of the surface. He indicated an area only 50 yards from the original money pit. Right? Chappelle paid to have a huge steam-powered earth mover brought in to the island. Then he paid for a vast hole

to be dug in the area that the gold finder machine had indicated. Nothing of value came out, of course it didn't. The machine indicated other locations that Chappelle paid to have drillings carried out in those areas. Nothing of any value was encountered. The work cost him nearly $40,000. I just love these two dipshits with a weird machine. Wait, where's the machine say it is now? now. Why didn't the machine find it earlier? I don't know. You know, it's crazy. I thought for sure, you know, a weird machine

with wires sticking out or it would find treasure. I would love to meet the mad scientists who made that piece of shit. What does this machine do again? Why, it's a gold finder. And what are your credentials? What type of education allowed you to build this? Why, it's, but It's a gold finder. Yeah, you said that

And if it works, why am I why am I hiring you if this thing can just find gold? Why aren't you out just buying raw land all around the country and just using your magic machine to suck all the gold out And just make a fortune, you know, of your own every week Well, because it's it's it's gold find it, I can get the fuck out of here. Okay, George Green, a Burley-Sugar-Tune-Texist oilman, heated a deal with Chappelle in 1955 to find the treasure. He's next part of the tale. Green's theory was that whatever was buried in the island had to come originally from Spanish-South American sources, probably dated back to the 16th century. And he had a lot of other info.

He also pulled out of his ass. The Bronnie Texan eventually left Oco Island to take on a new drilling contract in Louisiana. All right. He's going to put off Oco Island. Even though there's all this Spanish treasure there, he's going to get some oil in Louisiana. And his deal with Chappelle ran out. The pressure, the Louisiana contract and some later work Cup green away from the money pit and then he never had a chance to return. He was murdered in British Guyana

All taking part in geological work there in December of 1962. Maybe Jim Jones Maybe Jim Jones has something to do with it. I can't remember if he was down there exactly that time I know it's roughly that time actually was not down there at the time Never mind. It wasn't Jim Jones. It was those two Fena, dammit. If you'd only been given the opportunity to dig so many more shafts, think of the amount of shafts you could have got his hands on.

959 brought the next batch of treasure hunters and their tale is the sad one. Robert, especially sad, these are all kind of sad. They've all been disappointed so far. This one ends in worse. Robert and Mildred Restall married 1931 when she was a 17 year old ballerina and he was on tour as a young stunt motorcycle rider. They're an interesting couple.

They developed their thrilling Globe of Death Act together in tour to through Europe and North America for over 20 years. I've seen those. Someone of those were not as a kid, not obviously theirs, but it's not one of those where the guys in the motorcycles just like, they go upside down, going around this like inside this Kind of circular cage Globe-shaped cage 1955 they they visited Oak Island after performing nearby and Robert met George Green who gave him an account of the money pit mystery After green and on the Harmon brothers abandoned their attempts to left the island Robert prevailed upon a group of friends to

Provide the necessary minimal financial support to add to his own life savings. Oh, that's never good. I'm going to take my life savings and give you good, you know, use it for pirate treasure hunt. And they start to dig up again. In 1959, he goes to work. He and his family put in a ton of work over the next five years. They find nothing, same old story, and then in 1965, real tragedy strikes.

On August 17th, 1965, Robert Euthie, he was using a small gasoline engine pump rigged above the shaft, running continuously. And as a result, there was only a few feet of water in the bottom of the shaft, he was drying out. And then for reasons unknown to history, and this shaft couldn't have been that deep or the story would make sense. He falls into the shaft. or the story would make sense, he falls into the shaft. And his young son, Bobby, sees him fall in, races over to help, he's screaming, you know, for somebody to help him, he starts going down this ladder to try and, you know, get his motionless father

laying in the water below, back out. So it could have been too far down or I think he would just be dead. But he starts to climb down the ladder, into the tunnel, and then he also falls into the shaft. And then Robert's friend and partner, Carl, Grace, her arrives in response. You know, he'd heard Bobby shouting before Bobby fell in. So he tries to go down there and then he falls in.

So now there's three people down there in the bottom of the shaft. And then another family friend, helped with the digs, 16 year old, Cyril Hildz. He tries to climb down to the water with, you know, and then he falls in, all right. Now there's four people down there. A fifth rest will help her, Andy De Mont. He also scrambles down the letter and he fucking falls into

it. So now five fucking people have fallen into this shaft. I'm not making up this story. And then a man named Captain Ed White, a New York City firefighter, tourist, visit in the island. He realizes some sort of toxic gas is, you know, there's a leak over there. There's methane, seeping from the shaft. There's carbon monoxide from the gas pumps engine knocking everybody out. Something's going on. So with the help of other volunteers, he gets over there. He is able to rescue Andy, the fifth guy to fall in, but the other four people, they die. So the restels dig ends in an insane tragedy. But the tragedy does not stop the search. Right away on October 17th 1965. The next taker shows up. California and geologist Bob Dunfield and he goes big.

He builds a causeway linking the island to the mainland. There's no longer really an island now. Right. He can drive heavy equipment over to the island now, you know, such as a crane with a 90 foot arm. He can drive that out to the money pit. He brings in giant excavators. Tears away the beach looking for flood tunnels.

He created a hole at the side of the money pit, a hundred feet across, almost 50 feet deep. So he just fucking making huge holes on the island now. He digs the old cave in pit, remember the sinkhole where the oxen fell down? He digs that down to a depth of a hundred feet, right? He's just digging big ass holes all over the big old craters. And then he arranges for the excavated earth to be examined.

Right, he has all this earth he's moved. And he just examines all of that. You know, and sifters and things. And he finds fragments of 17th century pottery, some 17th century China, that's it. All that earth, that's it. And by the spring of 1966, he gives up after burning through 150 grand.

In 1959, another day group, Triton Alliance Alliance has formed a 1970 golder and associates of Toronto widely recognized as leading specialists in geological engineering. They conducted definitive survey of the island for Triton Alliance You know they give their opinion that a complicated labyrinth perplexing mixture of man-made workings and natural formations probably exist below O'Kyland The more explorations are made And more extensive these strange underworkings seem to be. One of Triton's significant discoveries takes place in 1970, and what is now known as Boruhol 10X. The Bound Master Drilling Company

took takes down 230 feet, the shaft, under Dan Blankenship's instructions. They blow compressed air down the hole to bring up anything of interest in the material loosened by the drill. Thin metal scrapings, which rapidly oxidize on exposure to air, lengths of old wire. Fragg winds of chain come up between 160 and 170 foot levels.

I'm guessing that's just, I don't know, shit, people lost in previous diggings. So many interesting and inexplicable finds were me made in 10X that Triton wisely decided to enlarge it sufficiently to admit an underwater television camera. They reinforced it. This shaft is still there. And watching the tape, which there's a camera, I guess recording things down there, I guess it's an eerie, perplexing experience, according to one writer. But like, you know, some,

okay, like so many other important Oak Island clues, it's Fall short, providing final and kind of absolute proof of exactly what is down there how it got there. The tape apparently showed Passages with well-defined corners and rectangular apertures, which seem more likely to have been the work of man than the work of nature later photographs taken in exploratory Missions with this thing find a find a well-preserved human corpse and uh... missions with this thing find a find a well preserved human corpse and uh... a sealed compartment full of saltwater and excluding you know the air i guess would be capable of preserving human remains for the time to find a hand apparently to crazy right all the fucking wild video

and photography so where is it well the video's gone this mysterious video cannot be found and the photos uh... are shit right like like you read these articles and they say like all, oh yeah, and there's like, you know, these these photos, obviously,

is a human corpse well preserved even. No, it just fucking, it reminds me of a ultrasound photos. We're just like, but not even that good. Like grainy, weird images that might be something, you know, that's it. And yeah, it just looks like absolute horseshit. The Trident Alliance continues to dig on the island, going far down as 590 feet.

Jesus, hitting gray, slate, bedrock. Who's fucking burying something hundreds of years ago? 600 feet beneath the ground. They find nothing. 1987, the borehole 10X shaft is lined with concrete down to bedrock at 180 feet. So it's really reinforced now. If you watch that Oak Island show on his channel, you've seen this shaft. They find

nothing of tunnels, artifacts, treasure, triton line seeks to raise $10 million now to solve the mystery once and for all. They propose excavating an 80 foot diameter line shaft at the money pit down to about 220 feet pumping water from four pumpingsations. A copper dam is going to be built at Smith's Cove to keep the water out of the flood tunnel. Huge coffer dam at South Shore Cove to keep water from the second flood tunnel. Some of the diggers assumed there is. 1991 Trinolines are still trying to raise money for their plan.

They apply to Atlantic Canada opportunities agency for 12 million and they're turned down. Of course they are. If you go to the website for the Atlantic Canada opportunities agency The agency defines itself as an agency that works to create opportunities for economic growth in the Atlantic Canada by helping businesses become more competitive Innovative and productive by working with diverse communities to develop and diversify local economies and by champion these strengths of Atlantic Canada It's a place for you to get help if you're a Canadian citizen and entrepreneur, you know, when you're looking to launch a local small business, or, you know, I guess don't have to be small, but local business, you want to get guidance and some startup capital. And I love that these idiots don't want to use that to find a treasure hunt.

Night, the people of the agency must still have a good laugh about that. I wish I'd have been there, you know, when they're going over that day. What's on the roster for today's proposals, eh? Well, we get a donut shop in Loonenburg that would like to get going. They're looking for 15,000. It might be nice to get the local something. It's not Tim Hortons. And we get a guy looking for $5,000, looking to get his taxi, dermy shop, sit up. I want to throw some Looney's, couple of tunies after that, eh? Is that all? No, no, we got the Eoc Island, guys. They're looking for 12 million to dig in every bigger hole, that the, you know, then bigger than the hundred or so holes That have already been dug there over the past 200 years. They turned up nothing. So they want they want 12 know for that

Yeah, I'm thinking the donut shop warrants the most consideration. Hey, they can we go with the donut shop? Yeah in 2001 Yeah, they don't get that fucking ground course not in 2001 a man named Ron Aston he drills more holes on oak Island to find to eat nothing again. 2006 the majority of the island was sold to the brothers Rick and Marty Lagina, right? From Kingsford, Michigan, the stars of the Curse of Oak Island on the History Channel, who along with Dan and David Blankenship,

they form Oak Island Tourism Incorporated. Now Dan and David Blankenship are a father and son team who now live on the island. Dan moved his family to the island. After reading a story in 1965 about the money pit in Reader's Digest, Jesus Christ. Reader's story in Reader's Digest, about supposedly buried treasure and things. Good enough for me, Reader's Digest, you know, the esteemed academic science journal has alluded to the possibility of buried treasure in Canada. So how about I give up my career and move my entire

family to Nova Scotia from Florida. Rick has retired US Postal Worker from Northern Michigan who has dreamed of solving the Oak Island mystery since he first read about it in January 1965, Reader, issue of Reader's Digest. He too saw that same Reader's Digest article when he was 11 years old. Reader's Digest, what have you done to these people? Marty is Rick's younger brother. I shared the dream of solving the Oak Island mystery with him since their adventures, childhood

in Northern Michigan. It's an engineer who owns his own energy business and all four of these wackadoodles are the star of the history channel share the curse of O'Cyllin. Okay, in season one, in 2014, a diver in the swamp of O'Cyllin finds a mysterious Spanish coin, season two. Also in 2014, they find nothing.

They also talked to various lunatics who regurgitated a variety of wackadood little theories. I'll discuss in a bit in season 3. 2015 they speak with more lunatics including a man who claims that Aztecs may have went way up there and visited the island and buried something in some intricate labyrinth of tunnels. Sure, fucking why not. Maybe to dig far enough to find a big-foot slayer. Maybe that's what's buried there, right? Maybe big-foot slayer. Or maybe it what's buried there, right? Maybe big-foot slayer. Or maybe it's a secret fortress of the Illusitor Illuminati. At the end of season three in 2016, after finding

nothing, relatives of the original Oak Island Hunters presented Gold Cross, which is said to have come from the treasure. I'm going to address that in a second, what I think about that. In season four, they start to look at their possibilities that the Knights Templar. The Knights Templar, the Knights Templar had something to do with the mystery. A theory I will address soon. A theory about ink gold being buried on the island is presented. February 2017 season finale excavation

leads to scrap metal pieces, a washer, and several ex-nuts being found. Ooh, clearly shit from earlier excavations. The gold cross, another random artifacts are evaluated by an antique suppressor. And then just a few days ago, on December 12th, episode six, season five, Rick discovers a rash he has and finds out he has Lyme disease, not kidding.

And that takes us to the present and out of this time-start timeline. Good job, soldier. You've made it back. Barely. Okay, so to recap, no one has found shit on Oak Island that it's historically, historically significant or can be verified and substantiated. The Gold Cross from the reality show, not having seen it, not having seen the clip where it's found, because I'm going to call bullshit and I'm going to tell you why.

I worked on a lot of reality shows. I wrote reality, quote unquote, that the general public believed to be true that was utter horse shit It's my it's my greatest career could regret actually Had fun working. I like to my co-workers some of them there, but I mean I hated the medium reality TV is fucking Horset I can say that with absolute certainty. I've been behind the curtain I worked with a producer who was a showrunner for numerous ghost hunter type shows And he told me he planted all the evidence on every one of the shows he did none of it was legit All the weird noises the apparitions creepy little artifacts all bullshit

They would just get it fucking antique places and stuff and you know add spooky music and you know places and stuff and you know add spooky music and you know filming at night with the with the green night vision goggles and just make it look scary it's all fucking make believe and without working on the curse of oak islands I would bet my actual life that they're making shit up they're planning things to keep viewers interested they're planning that fucking gold cross you know there was there was a Roman sword showed up in another episode they found off the coast bull shit producer plan of that too I guarantee it is either fucking fake or Real that they got a hold of but then planet it. I know these type of guys. I know how these shows get made too well

fake fake fake fake fake The cross without seeing it. Yeah, man. There's there's no way it was actually dug up I'm one of those eye o'keye land gigs. There's no way it was actually dug up. I'm one of those Oak Island gigs. There's no fucking way. These storage wars, pond reality, or pond shop reality shows, these people bringing in super interesting items, it's all set up by producers. Experts evaluate in the items,

a lot of them not experts, a lot of them actors, or just fucking maniacs with no credentials who want to tell people to their an expert and then some just produce or not getting paid very much is going to fucking great man. That's what you say you are fine. Then don't fact check stuff. Get out of here.

Don't fact check anything on these shows. So I want to go pay Ruth, call my shot right now. No one will ever find treasure on this show. No real find will ever happen. Because if it did, then real investigators would come in and examine the story and make the production company and the talent look like the pretenders they actually are. Right. If they acted like they found real treasure. Then somebody would examine it and be like, no, this isn't from here. Okay. And and and why don't I feel like they'll find anything just even outside of the reality show. Let's get into that. I've been living in the world of Oak Island the past couple days.

Let's start off with the pirate thing, okay? As I said earlier, no buried treasure, no chest of gold buried into the earth and some complex labyrinth of booby traps, booby traps, goonies has ever been found. And if they had buried treasure on Oak Island, there are the William kid rumors, the treasure would have been found.

Pirates were, you know, we're not engineers, they didn't do complex digs, they specialize in ocean heists. You know, they were good at fighting on land. A lot of times, too, they were mercenaries, private soldiers, sailors, navigators, boatbuilders, thieves. They weren't damn building booby-trapped lanes, shaft diggers. Right, there's no historical precedent for any type of pirate ever doing anything that complex, anything on that level, you know, that they're thinking that they have done on Oak Island. And which pirate did it? Well, there's no evidence that any pirate ever stepped on on Oak Island. There's all rumors. You know, let's start with William Kidd. He was born around

1645, hanged in 1701. He was a successful privateer from 1689 to 1691, you know, fighting the French. No records of him heading anywhere near Nova Scotia. He was spending time as a pirate around Madagascar. Now they found treasure, little on sea floor, but nothing buried. Madagascar, long way from Nova Scotia. He made his money in the Indian Ocean and cribbing, not the North Atlantic. The odds that he even heard of Oak Island are incredibly small. A variety of other pirates are rumored to have buried treasure at Oak Island, and I'm not going to go through any of their stories because they have no credibility. There's no evidence. Just, you know, hey, what about Sir Henry Morgan?

He's still a golden Panama, he could have done it. Yeah, I guess he fucking could have, in the sense that any pirate, who's whereabouts, weren't documented for every day of their pirating adventures, you know, theoretically somehow I guess could have made it there. Another name that floats around a lot with Oak Island

is Sir Francis Drake. Drake born around 1540, 1544, Devonshire England was involved in piracy, a list of slaves trading before being chosen in 1577 as the leader of an expedition, intended to pass around South America through the straight of Magellan, explore the coast that lay beyond,

Drake successfully completed the journey. He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth, first upon his triumph that returned. 1580 saw action in the English defeat of the Spanish Armada. He died in 1596 and dysentery. He was the first Englishman to circumnavigate the world, treasure he captured, made him a wealthy man, queen, knighted him again, knighted him. He was appointed to remember the House of Commons. And then there's these strange rumors about him in weird corners of the web that he he also is the real author of Shakespeare's place.

And and these rumors are supported by zero legitimate historians or investigative journalists, but somehow there's you know there's a wild theory that he buried proof that he had written the place of Shakespeare on the Oak Island. Why? What? So long after he died, the world could be like, oh, hey man, Shakespeare didn't write those plays for Francis Drake did, and then just fucking move on with their life. I mean, I guess it would be a big story, but you're gonna be fucking dead, so what do you care? Right?

Like, he wasn't claiming that in life. Why was it not important at all for him to claim that in life, but then suddenly very important for, like very, very important for him to want it, everybody didn't know that after he dies. You know, he's the guy who wrote Romeo and Juliet. And why are, why, why, why do people believe this? What can people believe anything? Right? There are people out there who, just so many people are so fucking gullible, it's insane to me.

Right? They believe that space lizards can draw the government because they, because they watch a shitty YouTube video. And if you can believe that, you can believe anything. That's why we have to keep learning. Why, why we have to say truly curious, and be critical thinkers, not just let the world completely devolve into utter lunacy. Ah, you can clearly go there. And then there's the rumors about the Knights Templar. Right, the Knights Templar was a large organization

of devout Christians with a mission to protect European travelers, visiting science in the Holy Land, while also carrying out brave military operations. They were wealthy, powerful, mysterious, medieval order. They fascinated historians in the public for centuries. Right, I'm sure we'll do a time-second of eventually. They're military prowess. They work on behalf of Christianity. They need these stories to circulate throughout modern culture around 1118. A French knight named Hugh Depans created a military order along with

eight relatives and acquaintances. Sorry if I pronounce his name wrong. Calling it the poor fellow soldiers of Christ in the Temple of Solomon, later known as the Nights Templar. Well, the support of Pope Baldwin II, the ruler of Jerusalem, they set up headquarters on that city's sacred temple mount from which they took their name and pledged to protect Christian visitors to Jerusalem.

In 1139 Pope Innocent II, issued a papal bull that allowed the Nights Templar special rights among the Nights Templars were exempt from paying taxes, permitted to build their own oratories, held to no one's authority except the Pope. So they were a powerful organization. They set a prosperous network of banks, gained enormous financial influence, their banking system allowed religious pilgrims to deposit assets in their home country, and then withdraw funds in the Holy Land.

The order became known for a doster code of conduct and signature style of dress, which featured a white habit emblazoned with a simple red cross, member soar and oath of poverty, chastity, and obedience. They weren't allowed to drink gambler's swear. Prayer was essential to their daily life. The Templars expressed particular adoration for the Virgin Mary as they grew in the size and status. You know, established new chapters throughout Western Europe and at the height of their

influence. They boasted a sizeable fleet of ships. They owned the Mediterranean island of Cyprus. You know, served as a primary bank and lending institution to European monarchs and nobles. I mean, they were fucking powerful. They built castles, they fought one battles against Muslim armies. You know, and I could go on again, but they're worthy of their own suck. Perhaps even a two-parter.

But suffice to say there were some bad astudes to that unusual place in history. They were religious organization. They got to do what they wanted. You know, they were mysterious. They were influential organizations. They got to do what they wanted. You know, they were mysterious. They were influential. They weren't under the authority of any King or Queen. The answer to the Pope.

And it was rumored that they had found special powerful religious artifacts like the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Covenant. You know, items of supposed mystical power that could do things like turn the tides of war. And they didn't want these things to fall into the wrong hands. They took a secret trip across the Atlantic, hundreds of years before Columbus and bury these items

far under the earth at Oak Island. Okay, fuck sure, that could happen in the same vein of, you know, thinking that Bigfoot, you know, could have a layer there. In the same vein of thinking that fucking lizard people could have a base there, you know, aliens are doing some shit there. Maybe, you know, maybe they didn't even travel

over by boat the night's temple. Maybe they rode a crackin' over. Maybe they tamed and rode a crack boat the night's temple. Maybe they rode a crackin over. Maybe they tamed and rode a crackin across the sea. Maybe they flew in a fucking dragon. Whatever. Maybe a hobbit took him over on jet skis. Why not? There's a bunch of other crazy fucking theories that like Atlantis, you know, citizens of Atlantis buried treasure there. If you listen to TimeSuck 43, the lost city, but Atlantis, you know that there's very little chance that ever existed even. There's theories about aliens doing it, American Indian civilizations. We don't even know about hidden money.

There's a Viking tomb. That's what it is. It's a Viking tomb. The Vikings are over there. Well, I don't, I'm sorry. I don't, I don't think anyone buried anything. And here's why. Let's talk about limestone.

Geologists have determined that the ground underneath Okan, primarily limestone and anodrite. And hydrite, excuse me. And again, fucking busy, busy week, to not have time for my pronunciation. So if I can please send in corrections if I make mistakes. The conditions in which natural caves are usually formed conditions that create sinkholes like the one that Sophia Sellers fell into with her oxen and 1878. So the original sunken ground of the money pit may have just been another one of those

sinkholes. You know, with all the flooding of the and Ground of the money pit may have just been another one of those sinkholes. You know, with all the flooding in the shaft, well, maybe it's just because, you know, of this weird network of caves and things under the island, this cotton's cheese type of, you know, network, the various pockets in the limestone. So that's a problem with, you know, buried treasure even being there. And then let's talk about secondhand sources. All the accounts of those early digs, you know, with their like, I think they did this, and I think they did that,'s talk about secondhand sources. All the accounts of those early digs, you know, with their like, I think they did this and I think they did that, they're all secondhand sources, you know, and that's where all the accounts come from of finding like, you know, wooden platforms and, you know, rivershown at various depths. We're just relying on these secondhand sources to be legit. Primary sources, you know, offer first hand knowledge of something, journals, letters, you know, photographs, videos, autobiographies.

Now secondhand sources are just more speculative. They can be articles written about the people who may be in the primary sources of the story. Sometimes the other are just based on other secondhand stories. Like one author will say that so and so did X, Y, and Z because maybe they heard that at a tavern. Someone's like, hey man, my friend, he did this and he found this at the tavern

or it could even be worse than that. It could be like, my friend told me that his grandpa's buddy, 50 years ago, found a wooden platform down there. So that guy writes it down. And that's kind of a shitty secondhand source, kind of hearsay. And then other people just copy the first article, the first guy wrote about the secondhand source,

and then they spread that. So pretty soon there's just all these articles out there. And none of them are like, they're not based on anything more than just like a random conversation or something. You know, they just, and then they just start copying from each other. And that's a problem, you know, that's a problem.

There's no primary sources for the early digs. You know, the companies who did the digs did not properly document their findings or even the location of the digs. You know, so maybe they hit various artifacts, various steps, or maybe they didn't. Maybe they lied to get investors to give them money. We just, we don't know, we'll never know. The first printed accounts of Treasure Hunting didn't appear until 1861 in some British and

Canadian newspapers, almost 70 years after the first dig. So until then it was just a telephone game of just people talking shit and then 70 years later the write stuff down. The flood tunnels, the ones that kept filling all the shafts in the water, no one's ever actually found one, right? Not in any kind of documented way. It's again, it's just those second hand sources

on the early digs, all speculation that they even exist at all, all hearsay. The box drains, you know, that the flood tunnels get their water from, you know, those layers of coconut fibers and other materials found in the beach shallows, the charcoal and wood that was found. Well, most likely the evidence of beach salt operations. Coconut fiber was not exotic at all.

Fisherman wouldn't have had any problem getting into his common packing material in 18th and 19th centuries, kind of the way foam peanuts are today. And why was it concealed in the way it was? Well, because salt was highly taxed in British America, and there was probably some poor fishermen just trying to avoid paying a tax toll. Right? And they had just created this little thing on the beach to fucking salt their fish. And finally, if there was ever a gold or treasure in Oak Island,

it all likely had it would be gone by now. People did not bury treasure to not go get it later. You know, you know, you don't put something. People aren't good at holding hiding secrets either. Even if the person who died who hit the treasure, right, odds are other people knew about it. And if it was a huge operation to dig way down, it wasn't just one dude with the fucking shovel. There was a huge team of people, very doubtful that all those people were killed, all those people kept their secrets. No one talked about it, no one went back for something very important, get the fuck out of there.

Odds are, if something was buried long before the first day in 79.5, they went back and they got it. So there you go. So that's what I think. I think the Oka mystery is not a mystery at all. It's a shit show. It's generations of people who desperately want the story of their life to include finding buried treasure, which I get, man. I dream to find buried treasure as a kid.

It's a wonderful thought. I love goonies. Finding treasure map? How fucking cool will that be? Finding one-eyed Willie's buried gold and jewels? Sounds fun, man. Sounds really fun, man. Just goonies never say die.

Yeah. But then I grew up and I realized that I have much better odds when in the lottery. And I don't buy a lottery tickets because those odds are shitty. That's just what I think. And I've been known to be a buzzkill. Sorry about that. So let's look at fun possibilities to throw a island. Let's look into a world where anything's possible.

No matter how fucking ignorant and wild the improbable it may be, let's check in with the idiots of the internet. For today's idiots, I went to a YouTube video called Oak Island 90 Footstone Located. For Bidden Truth Hidden History, uploaded in June of 2015, has 688,000 views as of this moment uploaded by the History Heritage, Jovon Hunter Pulitzer. And here's the video description, and it's good. It says, the infamous 90-foot Oak Island Stone has been located. In this telling, broadcast here all the facts not shared on the curse of Oak Island, learn about the real symbols on the stone and why it was hidden. In the first place, there's a lot of random

all caps. Is this stone a all caps tomb lock? Foreign all caps again, ancient tomb in the depths of Oak Island, where did this stone and its symbols come from and what did the ancient mick-mack natives know about the island and all caps who came there and when. And by the way, mick-mack is horrifically misspelled. Get the full all caps inside story of their actual presentation, right, other legunas in the blanking ships by expectation history.org, new never before released information. And based on the picture in the video, this dude's been to the island and possibly

actually has been on the history channel show, just briefly. There were a lot of pics with him and the cast members. And what is this 90-foot oak island that Stone is talking about? What's the one I mentioned in the podcast? I had used to have the descriptions on it, you know? Yeah.

I googled it just to see what else is out there about this stone, other than this weird book I read for this episode. And this guy talking about it. And the first website that comes up to reference the stone is a website called, I'm kidding lunatic outpost.com. That's the name of the website lunaticoutpost.com. The first link on the website is UFO over North Korea. Yeah. And just visiting the website almost crashed my computer. Seriously, kept freezing up when I ran into that one site. The second source

listed is this YouTube video. And the comments and ratings are disabled. Damn it. But it sent me to another video by the same user, same poster and comments were also disabled there. So I did some more digging on this Jo-on Hutton poster. Who is he? Well he's claimed among other things that under Oak Island, the body of Hercules is buried in a hidden tomb, Hercules, you know, the biblical strongman. Uh-huh. Okay, God, I wish I would have found one video of his with comments enabled would have been gold. But what I did is I transcribed someone he said in that first video because he's the guy who need to focus on today. So really today is actually more like an idiot of the internet, just one, just one idiot.

He opens the video up with a slideshow, a big pumped up music kind of opening, get ready, and then he says, okay, folks, let's talk about this infamous 90-foot stone found at the 90-foot level. Thus called the 90-foot stone in the money pit on Oak Island. And he admits that, ah, stone's missing. Dang it. Right? The one that book binder rubbed the inscription off, man, just, oh, can't find a dammit.

Or can he find it? He says, families of various treasure seekers have this stone. Another artifacts and are keeping them secret because they think it will be worth a lot of money down the road. What are you fucking talking about, Jovon? It's worth the most right now. If you had Oak Island actual treasure, you would reveal it right now unless you are a complete idiot.

Interest in Oak Island is the strongest it has ever been. You strike when there's heat, when there's interest. The history channel, they themselves would pay so much for real evidence of real treasure right now. It's five seasons into a show They haven't had a payoff Then after getting some of that history channel money you can sell to a museum or private collector put it for auction Right hold on to it my no one's holding on it shit Then he then he goes on to say that you know what? He does know where the stone is he knows that a family has it and he is an active negotiations

Right, he's an active negotiations with the family to bring it into the public eye. By active negotiations, do you mean you're looking for a cheap but good forger to make this up to build this? You fucking liar. Then he starts talking about the symbols he has seen personally on this stone. And he starts giving these weird stats, which I think liars are good at. I've done that when I just do bullshit stories. You just start throwing stats and people are like, oh, the Sun's legit. At one point, he says that 53% of the symbols

on the stone are Phoenician. What an exact number. 53% of the symbols are Phoenician. This guy, he's making them up, it goes along. Yeah, the stone is real, definitely. It's 30% Egyptian. It's 53% Phoenician because the Phoenicians and the Egyptians and the T text uh... seventy percent total

uh... they're working together to create a stargate and it's important that they need uh... someone from each culture to be present at the stargate opening so no one culture can bring dark matter potentially into our dimension uh... without the approval of the cultures you know there's a there's a fourteen percent chance that happened the stone is a key uh... it's a different dimensional keydimensional key that allows black hole machines to generate

interstellar gateways to bounce between colors. You get an 85% of the color spectrum in these gateways. Do you understand how this relates to Oak Island? Here, let me take out a diagram that I've stored up my ass, which is where I've been pulling all my information from. Then he talks about how he was filmed for the show and he definitely was on there and looked on IMDB and sure enough he was on there You know listen the curse Kirkovost

Yeah, cursive oak island cast in 2015 so sad to me This guy's not a maniac and now he's on the history channel a channel that does not give a shit about historical accuracy Change your name history channel you fucking phonies Ancient aliens the curse of oak island pond stars American pickers, that's your channel lineup. You're supposed to be talking about history. You sell outs. You're like MTV, man, you're supposed to be about, you know, music videos, but when you figure out

the polyshore, the weasel in the real world got better ratings, you know, out goes music. There goes the videos. And now, you know, nonsense bullshit artists have become more watchable. I guess better for ratings, better for clickbait, then actual historians talking about actual history, people who actually know shit, who dedicated their lives to knowledge.

And in the history channel has turned into what Spike TV was or whatever A&E is so sad to be man, A&E, history channel, discovery channel, learning channel, that geo. Those channels used to be at entertainment. They had actual historians, actual experts talking about real events, discussing real people in a non-sensational way. And then came along in the Kardashians and ducked honesty in Honey Boo Boo and they just wanted ratings, right? And everybody started dumbing it down for the masses.

Well, not here. Fuck the idiots. I catered to that enough and plenty of the jobs I had before. I was part of the problem, not anymore, not on this one. Oh man, trying to be part of a group of people now, you know, doing our best to reject this insulting anti-intellectualism fuck you, Joe Von Hutton, yourself serve a liar. You don't have access to the stone.

You were just complete total liar. You've never seen that stone. I bet again, I bet my life that you have never seen that stone. You are an active negotiations with no one. You are an active negotiations with some other idiot of the internet. It is the internet. Sorry if that was a bit much, man. I'm just so sick of liars. Maybe it was cranky.

I'm looking forward to Monday's suck of Eleanor Roosevelt, someone who's a positive role model who they're best to be honest, raise others up, raise society up, not just dumb it down. And sorry if I shit on the Okra mystery for you, I get so tired of these weird arguments people make. There's all these arguments around Okra then too that these civilizations, because thousands of years ago with advanced technology, we don't understand or have access to today. They were able to build this booby trapped crazy underground layer that we just can't figure out no no You know I'll argue with people argue about some person on a plane that are damn like no man

It's like no they couldn't do things back then that we can't do now and he went right to the pyramids We know could they build the pyramids? I mean we couldn't even build those today. Yeah, we could we just we're not interested in building the pyramids today You know and we do know how they did it by the way a lot of people say like we don't even know how they build the pyramids Yeah, no actually archaeologists have shown us how in building the pyramids today. You know, and we do know how they did it by the way. A lot of people say like we don't even know how they build the pyramids. Yeah, no actually archaeologists have shown us how they build pyramids, right? You just need you just need thousands tens of thousands of slaves, right? Slave labor and police. What do they make their lines so precise? We couldn't do that today. No, yeah, we could.

But we're not interested in cutting giant stones. We don't need to do that anymore, right? And of course, you know, I get how they could do that back then, you know, they didn't have distractions like we have now they didn't have internet porn, smart phones, didn't have Taco Tuesdays, PS4, Netflix and Jetskies. They had time to specialize in one thing, right? They didn't have AC. Why not just fucking go outside and get some work done. It's not going to be any much better than house. You know, we could cut stones very precisely now and build pyramids, but we can do little stones. We can have those,

you know, made in a factory, and they're much easier to carry around, you know, for people to build with. We don't build pyramids because they're impractical. Take a lot of land, very expensive, and not many people can live in them, right? There's no reason to do that anymore. And maybe some ancient civilization could have built in a laboratory structure on Okai, then maybe they could have, but why would they? Why would they do it there? You know? And if they did, there would be evidence because it would have taken decades for them

to do so many people. It took a hundred thousand slaves in 20 years to build like one of the pyramids. Like it would have taken thousands of people and decades to build some underground fortress that were, you know, still keeping, can't get into today. There would be archaeological evidence of a lot of people being camped there for a long period of time. There would be coins, tools, pottery, so much else that has never turned up. But that's just what me and Bojangles and Michael Mothafuck and McDonald James Ingram think. That's what we think.

I could go on and on, but I think it's time to get those top five takeaways. Time, suck, top five takeaways. Right, number one, the first dig occurred on Oak Island in 1795, and the treasure hunters found what everyone else has found since nothing. Number two, William Kid is a pirate rumored to have buried treasure on Oak Island. There is no record of him ever having been to Oak Island, let alone an indication of him digging up treasure or burying treasure there. Number three, so many holes have been dug over the years at Oak Island that it is now almost

impossible to determine with any certainty where the first hole even was. Where are you supposed to dig a shaft if you don't know where the hole is? Number four, a sinkhole. What if this whole thing started because of a sinkhole? What if no one ever buried anything on that island? What if people had no ways in their lives for over two centuries trying to find a needle that isn't even in the haystack? At this point, is it admirable or pathetic that they just keep digging? The number five new info there isn't any. Right? This story is a never ending stream of more of the same. You can't solve a mystery

when there isn't a mystery. It's just a regular fucking island. Enough already. Time suck, top five takeaway! Alright, bonus episode 14 is a wrap. Hope you liked it. Love a good mystery. I wish it would have been more to this one. Uh, but you know, if I fluff this shit up, then just I'm as bad as a sensationalist to uh, networks, the snake oil salesman that I make fun of. So please don't hate to mess with your, I just, I really, what I find, I would have loved to bad as a sensationalistic networks, the snake oil salesman that I make fun of.

So please don't hate to mess with your, I just, I really, what I find, I would love to found some legitimate that makes it seem awesome. I would love to found, to have found some kind of info about pirate treasure, having a real chance of being there. But I didn't. If you don't already, listen on the new TimeSuck app, new features being added soon. The contact is show button, you know, moving from the website, it will still be on the website, but also coming to the app very soon. Send in topic requests and updates you can you know via the app

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I love their commitment to quality. The new podcast studio, the Suck Dungeon, if someone called it online, is now ready to record in. I just got to get there to record in. It's still a lot of work to do, to make it look cool, but it's record ready, and I can't wait to test it out Thanks for all the itunes and Facebook reviews and ratings again this past week man. Thank you. Thank you Thank you

Over 2100 ratings on iTunes now and they help so much that there's so many people find podcasts That's you know, let's lure them in there bring them over to the app each time you leave a good rating and review You know you do spread the suck. Sorry for the delays, getting time stuck on YouTube, it's just been taken forever to load up these giant fucking files on hotel Wi-Fi, it turns out, and I'm just moving around constantly. So I'm not in one place where I can just sit

and let my computer just work all the time. I'm always on the go. Special thanks to Time Sucker, Jason White, Alex Turmer, Joey Fenwick, Bo Sullivan, Nigel Sneed, Laurie Humphal, Ariston Bowers, Nick Nurgat, anyone else who suggested this topic. Thanks to Sydney Shies for killing it on social media, Harmony Velocamp, for all her help on social media as well, also just killing it. This Monday, time sucks 66 Eleanor Rose of Elf, first lady for just over 12 years.

That's a lot of first lady in. Her husband was elected president four times, a record amazing, illegal now. See, record the one we broken, hopefully. She transformed the role, the first lady from the background, so a lady in the background to be an active participant in DC politics. After her husband, Desi became the first United States

representative to the United Nations Commission the Commission on Human Rights. She's a big human's rights advocate and aspiring woman, aspiring human. My niece is named after her, a little Elly Bird, a little light to kick off the week before Christmas, a nice suck on a strong woman during these insane times of sexual harassment scandals. All right, it feels right. I had those scandals coming out by the way, man. It feels like we're lancin' the boil, man. This gets the infection out of there, and it's fuckin' move on. And, you know, this is the first episode that I'll be, you know, doing

that our new Bojangles research intern, Maddie Teeter, has helped me out on. Doing a lot of all the initial research, man. Maddie's fantastic. She's enjoyed work with. Can't wait to work with her in a lot more episodes. Glad I'm getting one of her's out now, and excited for this Monday episode. And I'm excited to check in with the cold of the curious with some time-sucker updates. First update is from Sucker, Extraordinary Brian H, who writes in with some kind words, saying, dear sucks a lot. Excuse me, dear sir, sucks a lot. I appreciate that.

I just wanted to send a quick email letting you know about how much of an impact your podcasts has had on me in such a short time. Podcasts are a fairly recent thing for me and I came over from astonishing legends and I wasn't really sure what to expect. I'm glad I did because I truly feel that you have a solid approach to podcasting.

I've learned so much and feel like I've found a place where like-minded individuals can come together and just be interested in exploring concepts and coming to whatever truth satisfies them. Most importantly, how we can respectfully disagree with each other and walk away not feeling quote unquote but hurt or like someone has to quote unquote win. Anyway, there's a lot of darkness out there and your podcast has been a beacon for my insatiable curiosity and desire to know. I love that. Kind of feels a bit like home. PS, your chica tilo still cracks me up. Well, this is good.

I'm glad you still enjoy self-shape cook. Suck on it, come and suck it long and suck it hard. Thank you, Brian. Man, I'm honored you found a new home here in the cold to curious. Yeah, we can agree, man, not get to but hurt, right? You know, everyone's so all I piss people off with their religious and political view,

and then they, right, mean angry email. Maybe I get fired up for a second. I let it go You know, I do want to be clear. I don't think of less of someone if they disagree with me You know religious wise or politically wise, you know if you're super like uber, you know far right or crazy whatever man You know, you know if we're talking and you give me shit for being socially liberal or non-religious on some issue I don't fucking care. I can disagree with someone politically and still be cool with them.

I understand people who just cannot do that. I don't think it's healthy just to only surround yourself with like-minded people. Write a sense of your mind to some weird places. You know, like I get along really well with my next door neighbor. You'll find out soon when the time album comes out. I do not get along well with my neighbor behind me.

But my next door neighbor, he listens to Rush Limba like, album comes out, I do not get a well, I can't get a long one, it's my neighbor behind me. But my next one neighbor, he listens to Rush Limbaugh every single day in his shop. He's an all-retired guy. Loves Rush Limbaugh. Loves Bill O'Reilly. Loves Trump. You know, all three of those guys, to be completely honest, just rub me the wrong way. I don't care for them personally.

You know, I don't even like to look at their faces, which I find to be pretty smug. But I love Jim. You know, I've taken him and his wife out to dinner with Lindsay and I, you know, and he told me, you know, I don't even like to look at their, you know, faces, which I find to be pretty smug. But, but I love Jim, you know, I've taken him and his wife out to dinner with Lindsay and I, you know, and he told me, you know, over dinner, how he thinks liberals are ruined in the country. You guys know, use to form, right? I don't fucking, I don't care, you know, partly because, you know, I hear, maybe I hate certain liberal policies too. I've been interested in living in a welfare state, some kind of socialist fucking situation, you know, but I also don't want to cut support single parents, you know, who need some help getting ahead, things like that. You know, again, I have my own various ideas.

I don't always align with either major party, but even if I did, I can still handle some disagreement. I just don't, yeah, I don't need to think like, you know, me to be friends, you know. I respect Jim very, very much. And I think he's a good dude. You know, I just need you to let me disagree and be me and be okay with that and I can be okay with you, you know, thinking what you want to think. Sometimes outside of the stuff it feels like the world's gone mad, man, people treat in real

life, like it's a fucking game, like you're cheering for your team, you know, like you're a Steelers fan and you know, and you just don't like the Patriots and you're just going to cheer everything the Steelers do and you're going to move everything the Patriots do. This isn't a fucking game. This is our life. You know, there's only one side. There's only one team, the human team. We're all on it.

You know, whether we want to be or not. And just people, I don't know, a lot of them just keep forgetting that. So thanks for reminding me, Brian, that a lot of you guys, you know, haven't forgot that. So, love your thoughts. This is in from Wonder Sucker, Emily Richardson. Dear Master Sucker, my dude and I have been huge fans of your comedy in the podcast since its inception. Love that word inception, by the way.

And appreciate the mix of intellectually stimulating topics based on dark humor and cult characters. Hail them not. We often use our post time suck Monday nights for some quality time and further discussion. A few months ago he was deployed. And with Christmas coming up, I've been racking my brain for what I could do to remind him he's appreciated and missed

back home. I love that. I couldn't think of anything he would like more than a time sucks shout out from the Lord and master himself. I know it's a busy fuck show in the land of the suck, huh? Is it ever right now? But you, if you get the opportunity, I would greatly appreciate it if you would send boat jangles and a scatically clad Mrs. Claus costume to GM one, Christopher Thompson and Djibouti For some holiday cheer. I appreciate your time and everything you do is always keep on sucking your loyal suck suckling Emily Well, aren't you just the fucking best Emily?

But why am I sending the scantily clad boat jangles to your dude? Why am I not sending Luciferina? Is G2-0dy too sexy? Why don't I get her over there and some garters and some fish nets, right? No, got to send a three-legged dog instead? Well, okay, well, hell-name Rod and Praise Bojangles, GM1, Christopher Thompson, Lucky Man, sound like you got a great late in your life. Thank you, sir, for keeping us safe, and I hope you have a good Christmas abroad, man.

I have a special place in my heart for you, military suckers. I really do. Had a veteran Matt Post come out last night in Madison. Give me a special forces airborne green beret coin. He is Christ man, I'm about tiered up. I'm an awe of the sacrifices you guys make for the rest of us. You know what? I say guys there. I gotta stop doing that. That's just this weird gender mistake. You people do versus men and women serve in the military. You know, and I'm an awe of the sacrifices you people make for us.

Stay safe Christopher, and I hope you can find some decent turkey gravy and mashed potatoes over there in Djibouti. But I don't think the area around the Red Sea, particularly known for some kick ass turkey dinners. So, you know, maybe when you get home, eat an extra one. Eat a big, a big ol' turkey dinner, some cranberry sauce, make up for the one, maybe you won't get this year, but I hope you do get something you kick ass,

son of a bitch. And last one for today, flat earth update, you know how I love those. This is in from Time Sucker, Joshua Lane. He says, New listener and I've become obsessed with the suck. I recently went back and listened to the Flat Earth episode and it has been a fast nation mind for a while. Not because I believe the earth is flabbing because I long to understand how someone could

believe something so insanely stupid. Exactly. I thought you would like to know that the Flat Earth Society is planning to march in Atlanta for the beginning of 2018. Keep on sucking Dan and hail Nimrod Thank you Josh. Well, man. This is a real event. He sent me a picture of it If you'd like to attend it's happening Monday January 1st. Please somebody go to this Monday I can't make it but Monday January 1st at 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Eastern time. It's at the CNN Center in Atlanta and

and it is and I quote, a march against the corrupt and biased left-winged spheroids in charge of the media. Wow. What an incredible amount of dumb. This event is hosted by someone who refers to themselves as the wolf. Of course it is. It's not going to be ran by a normal person with a normal name, the wolf's putting this on. He's fucking pissed off at the spheroids, pushing our sphere agenda. This is endlessly fascinating to me. What is the benefit of hiding the truth of a flat earth? I don't get the agenda.

Like if the earth was flat, okay, why wouldn't we just admit it? Why wouldn't we bias left wingers and admit it? What is there to gain from this lie? You know, just come on everyone, we have to double down on this earth is round bullshit. If people find out the truth, they're going to walk out into space and they're going to find out that if you walk out into space, you don't have to work anymore and you get to live forever and you feel good all the time and you're never hungry and you and you can't get STDs and everyone wants to have sex with everyone else and it's happy and

no one ever dies. And if they find that out that out they're gonna stop letting us exploit them here on earth and they're gonna Hey, wait a minute Why am I not out in space? This sounds fucking fantastic. So long bitches. I'm out That makes no sense I never get tired of those flat earthers man never get tired of hearing from you time suckers either Thanks time suckers. I need a net. We all did. Well thanks for listening everybody, check out those new shirts in the store, buy those Denver and Indie tickets soon, and don't throw your life savings away, chasing buried treasure,

right? Put on your retirement. And keep on sucking. you