Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #265: The JFK Assassination and the Garrison Tapes with John Barbour

Episode Date: January 7, 2020

Thank you so much for tuning in for another episode of Tin Foil Hat with Sam Tripoli. This episode we welcome Hollywood Legend and OG Conspiracy Realist, John Barbour to discuss the Jim Garrison's pur...suit of secret truth the CIA's role in JFK's assassination! Thank you fo much for your support. Please check out John Barbour's website: http://johnbarboursworld.com Please check out.... Youtube.com Youtube.com/SamTripoli Check out all the Tin Foil Hat Full Episode Videos at brokensimulation.com My youtube.com Youtube.com/SamTripoli Patreon: Patreon.com/TinFoilHat Tshirts: TinFoilHattshirts.com Cameo.com www.cameo.com/samtripoli Thank you to our sponsors: OMAX CryoFreeze: Get 20% off a full bottle of CryoFreeze Pain Roll Relief and anything site wide plus free shipping just go to OMAXhealth.com promocode TINFOILHAT. Manscaped: Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code TINFOILHAT at Manscaped.com. That’s 20% off with free shipping at manscaped.com, and use code TINFOILHAT Blue Chew: Visit Blue Chew dot com and get your first shipment free when you use promo code tinfoil. Just pay $5 shipping. That’s B-L-U-E-Chew dot com promo code tinfoil. Chew it and do it! ADsuits.com: hey have tons of different colors and styles. they have suits in solid colors, pinstripes, plaids, houndstooth, double breasted, corduroy, tuxes. and all for $39 to $69. AND they give away 1 free suit every week to one of our listeners. thats just tinfoil hat fans. we announce the winner here the following week on the show. Just go to ADsuits.com/TinFoilHat and put in your email. or don't put in your email in for the free suit and just go to ADsuits.com/TinFoilHat and get a 2-button suit for $39. BETDSI: Go to BETDSI.com and use the promocode HAT100 and they will double your deposit. Live Shows: Phoenix January 9th-12th: Headlining the House Of Comedy Arizona. az.houseofcomedy.net Fort Worth Texas: Jan 24th at Hyenas at 8pm Oklahoma City: January 25th Bricktown Comedy Club at 4:30pm

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Starting point is 00:00:52 It's 2020. Thank you guys so much for your support over the last couple years. The show is just growing. You know, we're trying to be everywhere. You too, Bitschu and on broken simulation. So join us, follow follow follow follow follow follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, follow, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to, to, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to be everywhere, YouTube, Bidchu, and on Broken Simulation. So join us, follow us, love us, because we love you and we're working hard. The guests we have lined up over the next month are the best of the best. Today's guest is one of them.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Joining me in studios my partner in crime, the man, the mithe, the giraffe king, XG, and the place and the place to be Xavier Guerrero. What's up, dude? Welcome back. Thank you. Oh, we're gonna kill it. Dude, are you going with the Drake still? That's so 2019. Oh, I know, I got a choice. What do you think the things? I think, honestly, Fough, like you?
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Starting point is 00:02:48 We have some live shows coming up. I am this weekend at the House of Comedy in Arizona. Just go to AZ. tohose. tohose. tock. their tickets right now. Myself, Zane Helberg and my friend Andy Seinberg. Yes, an Armenian and two Jews. We'll be Rocking, Arizona.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Come out and join it. Both guys are two of my favorite people in comedy. I'm super excited. And the House of Comedy is one of my favorite places to play. So come out for that. And then we're in, we're in Fort Worth on Friday. What is that? January 24th. January 24th, we're coming back, Texas.
Starting point is 00:03:27 My favorite state to gig in Texas. We're at fourth work, we've moved from Plano, where we move from Plano to Fort Worth. We do the little bigger word. Hyenas, XG, the place to be, Eddie Bravo, myself, we're gonna rock. And I'm gonna pull local up. I want local conspiracy comedian to hit me up semi links your show the funniest ones get to open the
Starting point is 00:03:50 show we got to get together on that one then the next day we are in Oklahoma City and we are right town comedy club the Bricktown comedy club we're doing a day show 420 which I love I like the 420 shows so we're gonna get in get out by the way fun fact about okay C I I I I I I I I I I I I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I th. I th. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I tho. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I I I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the the. the the the the 420 shows so we're going to get in get out by the way fun fact about okay C I always like to find these um these what conspiracies are there dude big foot wars of 1855 please say more about that we're gonna get into that another day but not today today's we have other day stop stop stop stop I'm um I'm very excited I'm very excited say more about that. We're going to get into that another day but not today. Today's we have other day. Stop, stop, stop. I'm very excited. So yeah, go check that out. A lot of amazing things going on in
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Starting point is 00:05:56 and you go hang out with his lady. And we have a great show for you today. This topic that we're going to talk about, I could talk about to the end of days, okay? It is one of my favorite, favorite topics, and that is JFK. I feel like more and more with all this information coming out people are more more open-minded to this to the idea that we in the conspiracy conspiracy community no and when I say conspiracy community I mean news people journalists real researchers, okay? We know that something went down there.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He's a wonderful man, he's here to talk about a very interesting topic, which is the garrison tapes and the JFK assassination. Please welcome John Barber everybody. John, how are you? Can't hear mom, sorry much. And happy new year to you and you are my second favorite Sam. My first being Uncle Sam. And I must tell you, everybody in the government must watch your show and overdose in Viagra
Starting point is 00:07:18 because it is screen regularly. But I must tell you, I am delighted and delighted to be talking to you because you are a comic. Yes, thank you. It is surprising to me the number of comics who are totally interested in this show. And it began for me with Freddie Prince. Do you remember Freddie Prince? Of course I remember Freddie Prince. He was a star of Chico in the Man with Jack Albertson
Starting point is 00:07:50 and just a few days before he committed suicide, he did his last live interview on my show in Los Angeles, and when he committed suicide, he was watching this a Pruder film, and by far the most brilliant comedian when it came to making commentary and observations about the assassination was Bill Hicks. He is featured prominently in our documentary, it's called the American Media and the Second Assassination of President John F. Kennedy, which is we speak as a two-year runaway hit on Amazon,
Starting point is 00:08:25 in spite of the fact that there's been no above-ground media coverage of this amazing film, and only six weeks ago at the Kappa conference in Dallas, Oliver Stone, three times publicly urged people to watch our documentary, the American media and the second assassination of President John F. Kennedy. So thank you, thank you so much for having me. Hall, before we get into this, John, I forgot to bring up that John has worked in Hollywood for a very long time, and this might be for your time, Johnny, but I remember this show.
Starting point is 00:09:08 It was a big part of my life. Real people? Oh, bless your heart for that, because now you give me a chance you plug your comedy performance. This book is called, just out recently, my autobiography, it's called Your Mother's Not a Virgin. Don't be life in times of the Canadian dropout who changed the face of American television and the title came about as a result of the first time I tried to book Jim Garrison on my morning show in 1970 in Los Angeles. So I'm ready to rock and roll to talk about this story, which is I think is the most, the third most important American story since the American Revolution and the Civil War, and that is the murder of John Kennedy and the solving of that crime by Jim Garrison. John, I want to get into what this assassination because this is a very, we've done JFK shows before,
Starting point is 00:10:05 we've done analysis of everybody in the thing, and we can never do enough of it because and we got, this is a different angle that I've never heard of and I'm super excited about getting into it, but in my belief, the JFK assassination is a pivot, a change in how politics is ran in America. We are going through something right now with Donald Trump, you know, with Iran right now, and how this moment in his administration seems to be a pivot into a different direction of what we thought he was versus what I
Starting point is 00:10:46 believe he might be doing right now you know and it's not a very popular stance in the in the conspiracy community but the JFK assassination to me is the basically the inviting of the Dracula into your house the devil in the house the devil into your house, we see a basically in my opinion an inner international banking Kabul start to come in and take kind of over American politics, the American Empire and all that stuff. What is your opinion of like what this moment represents? Obviously the assassination of the president of the United States is a huge thing, but I believe it's even more than that.
Starting point is 00:11:31 My opinions are only based on fact. I am agnostic about everything. I'm the only person I know who has an absolutely and total open mind, and I hate to say that to a comedian because it's like a straight line to you. But the truth is, I do not know if there's no God and no, I do not know if there is God. Now I feel that way about everything. And you know what 2020 means? Sam, what does it mean? It means you have clear vision. So we can only hope that we will have leaders in this country who have a clear vision to
Starting point is 00:12:06 clean up the mess that has become America. You know, I'm going to, what I should tell you was just a couple of minutes about my background and how I happened to accidentally become the fellow that changed the face of American television by creating the first reality show, the most watched show in the history of American television, real people, how I accidentally became the private writer to Frank Sinatra, and how I accidentally became the Boswell to Jim Garrison. And it all happened by accident. I must say you, Sam, all the magnificent and wonderful things that have happened to me in my life all happened by accident, whereas all the disasters were the things that I planned really, really now.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So I'm going to tell you, if you don't mind, just a little background about me so that people have an idea of who is telling this story. All right, I'm in dude. I'm into all of it, man. Everything you're saying, I'm like, yes. Okay. I was born in Toronto in 1933 in the Salvation Army Charity Ward. I came from a severely, severely broken family. It would have to improve dramatically just be called dysfunctional. I was six years of age before I knew my name wasn't. Hey, that's enough. In 1939, my father joined the Canadian Army to go to the peace and quiet of World War II,
Starting point is 00:13:47 and I was left with a nymphomaniacal beer drinking alcoholic mother who brought uncles home to me like they were grapes. They came in bunches and mostly to bed with her or booze with her or beat her. Now from the time I was six, I was like a Charles Dickens Oliver Twist or David Copperfield out on the streets. Now when you come from a family like that, Sam, you're looking for attention. And when you come from a bad family like that, you never get it by being good, you only get it by being bad.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So I was very, very bad, arrested a number of times, convicted a number of times, spent a lot of time in jail on Main Street, and I was lucky to end up there because I discovered that right across the street was the library, which is a, I also spent a lot of time there. And being on the streets, I either was on a hockey rink or I was in a movie theater watching movies for five cents and at the end of every movie it's had made in Hollywood. In my lifetime, my very long lucky lifetime, I have seen America go from the hopeful Frank Capra. It's a wonderful life, to the very scary Stanley Cooper, Dr. Straits' glove, and worse now, Coppola's brilliant apocalypse now.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And when I came to the United States, I wanted to come to the United States, I came illegally when I was 17 years of age. I came to come to the United States. I came illegally when I was 17 years of age. I came to be a gambler. A professional gambler was my dream. I mean, I know you went up a long time in performing in Vegas, the great crowds, just fantastic shows. That's where I wanted to be. From the age of 15 to 17, I spent all of my time on weekend poker games, all the
Starting point is 00:15:47 money I could steal or earn or borrow, all of which I did very well. I lost in all night session. I was always the first to lose and the last to leave. And after a year and a half, Sam, I said to myself, you know what, I am not here to make money, I'm here to make friends, but who wants to be friends friends to be friends to be friends to be friends to be friends to be friends to be friends to be friends to be friends to be friends to be friends. to be friends. to be friends. to be friends. to be friends. to be friends. to be friends. And to be f. And to be f. And to be to be to be to be the the their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their.. And, their.. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the, the, the, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. And, I. the, I. And, I. te. And, I. te. te. And, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, and, I'm, and, I. the, and, I. the, and, I here to make money. I'm here to make friends, but who wants to be friends with people like this? And you know, I didn't drink and I didn't smoke. Now all, I played with eight guys, two of them were in their 40s. All the others were in their 20s. I was the youngest, 15 and 16 years of age. And they always thought I was a religious fanatic because I didn't drink or I didn't smoke. And they asked, and they were always trying to ply me with beer, which I wouldn't take because of my mother, frankly, but the truth was a little bit different. They asked me why I didn't drink and why I didn't smoke. And I told them, well, when I was 12, I stole a carton of cigarettes and I tried to hide the evidence and I smoked it all
Starting point is 00:16:45 and I threw up and so I never smoked again, which is true. And then I said, the reason I don't drink, because I also stole a large carton of beer and again tried to hide the evidence and I gulped it all down and threw it all back up so I don't, I don't drink. And then I pulled out a pack out out out out out out said, when I was 15, I stole a dozen condoms and I have 10 left. So every time I sat down to play, they always say, hey kid, how many condoms you have? Anyway, the two books I got were scarny on dice and scarny on cards, and I memorized them. And in three months, Sam, I earned $700. Now, you know how much money that is in 1970 to a 17-year-old kid? So what I did is I went out and bought this blue suit that you see
Starting point is 00:17:38 on the cover of this book. This picture was taken in front of the old Flamingo Hotel, and I made my way to walk across the border with nothing on except that suit, and $600 in my pocket got a ticket on the train to Las Vegas. In northern Nevada, the train was stopped by an accident, but I didn't know that. I thought the immigration authorities had called, and since I was wanted by the Toronto police, that they were stopping, stop that Johnny Barber........... We, the, the, th. We, the, the, th. We, th. We, th. We, th. the, th. th. the, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi. thi. thi. the. thea. thea. their, their, thea. their, thea. thi. thi. thi. thi since I was wanted by the Toronto police that they were stopping, stop that Johnny Barber, we got to come and get them. So I hopped off the train, happy to leave an empty seat for them to find. The closest place I could get was Lake Tahoe in the Calneva Lodge. It was like walking into an MGM musical with Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney and I was waiting for them and pop out of the woodwork.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So I went to the end of the crap table and I bought this steps and so I'd look like I was not all hat and no cattle. And so I would look over 17 years of age and nobody stopped me. So I started playing crap and I was doing well. Soon people were looking at me and I thought, oh my God, they must know I'm only a kid and they're going to arrest me or something and send me back. And then soon everybody stopped and was looking not at me but passed me. So I turned around to see what they were looking at.
Starting point is 00:19:03 When I turned around in through those big glass glass glass glass glass glass those big glass those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big those big glass those big glass they were looking at. When I turned around in through those big glass doors came Frank Sinatra with his overcoat draped over his shoulder like an Italian Superman. He was literally arm in arm with Sam John Connett, the leading mafiosa in Chicago. Ah, there we go. There we go. Just read about on the front page of the paper that I left on the train and they were surrounded by three Italian patori in guard. Here was a week earlier
Starting point is 00:19:35 I had seen as the clouds rolled by, the Jerome Kern story at the Manor Theater, you might remember the scene. At the end of the movie Sinatra is in a white tuxedo on a white pedestal and he's singing All Man River. And it was gorgeous. Now here he is a week later writing, walking right past me in real life. And how would I know that 20 some odd years later I would be as private writer for four years. So that's how my life started and I decided I didn't want to stay in Lake Tahoe because I quit gambling and the reason I quit gambling this may help anybody who is addicted to gambling. When I became a wizard at all the odds and permutations in the turn of the carbon. Now my game was one single deck, Blackjack, and I always won. I did great in Las Vegas, did great for, but you could only gamble for a couple of hours. And there were no movie
Starting point is 00:20:39 houses to go to, so I would go to the shows. And I saw Joey Lewis, the opening actress Lily St. Cyr, at El Rancho, and I saw Edith Piaf, the Desert Inn. I saw Noel Coward, mad dog. I had more fun going to the shows and gambling, and then one day in the middle of a game when I was up $400, I stopped. And the reason I stopped, Sam, I was no longer emotionally attached to the game. I felt like I was having an out-of-body experience. Yeah, I get that. As a scientist who's getting no emotional joy from this, so I quit and I thought, you know what, I'm going to get into show business. Because that's what I loved to show business and my heroes, you might not remember him, but he was the best of the bunch. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the bunch the bunch the bunch th loved, the show business and my heroes, you might not remember him, but he was the best of the bunch, was Jack Parr.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah, I know Jack Parr. Tonight show. And the reason I love Jack Parr is because he had conversations with interesting, entertaining guests, just amazing. And I didn't know that people talked to one another. I thought they shouted or they punched them each other. And then he opened his show with a monologue. So I thought, well, I'll become a, I'll do a stand-up. And that's indeed what I did.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And my other hero, of course, was Edward R. Murrow, who almost lost his great news career when he did Harvest of Shame. It was the first documentary ever done about the exploitation of migrant workers on land owned by Coca-Cola. So Coca-Cola told CBS, you know, you get them off of our land and off of your news or were done with, so they gave him this celebrity show where he smoked a cigarette for his sponsors and then talked to very famous. That's so interesting, dude, and I feel like, you know, it's very interesting because when
Starting point is 00:22:35 you, when I think there's people who look back on Hollywood's Golden Era and they're like, you know, all you had to, you know, this whole saying is like in the 80s in LA, if you were a comic, you know, all you had to do is fly to LA, get off the plane and someone offered you a sitcom. And I don't believe that's 100% true. That's a lot of romanticizing, but you know, I of them, like you knew all the names on all the walls. They were everybody, was a celebrity. You know, for me and my style, I'm very edgy. I like to tell truth.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I've been doing it for 27 years, you know, and when I started, everybody wanted Seinfeld. And I just think of, you know, the opportunity as afforded to me in this new medium where, you know, you start a new medium with real people, this new medium we have here with podcasting where, you know, we go peer to peer, it's called. We go directly to the consumer. There is no suit deciding who goes to the consumer, and it's a different time, but we are now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now now to to the to the to the to the to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the., theat, the theat, the the theat, the theat, to to to to to to tooooooooooooooom. to to to the consumer and it's a different time but we are now starting to see an attempt to control that which is interesting because you said the guy who did the Jack Parr who did the story on Coca-Cola
Starting point is 00:23:52 Migrat Workers and how there was this big backlash and like we kind of got that with YouTube and Blute you right it's like yeah it's very interesting you know when when we were starting in the business you might you might remember that we that we that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. the the to to the the the the to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is th is the th is the th is the the th is the the th is to to to th is to to to to to to to to to to to to to do te. too. too. tru. tru. true is true is to to to to to to to to to the to the the the know when we were starting in the business, you might remember that we had something called the Fairness Doctrine. You know, I was, I was a very, and the reason it does not exist is because of Jim Garrison, which we will get to, but when I started in the business, when I started in the business and when John Kennedy was alive, a company could only own five radio stations or five television stations or five newspapers and there was a thing called the Fairness Doctrine.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So if you were an author or if you were a musician or a playwright or performer, and somebody hammered you unmercifully, you could demand equal time and you could often get it. I have the only review ever ruled on by the Supreme Court of the United States. Do you remember a movie called Soilent Green with Charles Heston? And for people who don't know about it, it's about the overpopulation gets so bad that the people's remains are turned into crackers, which we would eat so we could have three squares a day. Anyway, it was an absolutely dreadful, dreadful movie. And when I was
Starting point is 00:25:18 reviewing it, I felt, I felt bad because I know people don't deliberately go out to make a bad movie. There are a lot of good people involved. So in the middle of my review live, I said, you know, I should say something nice about this film. The sets are beautiful. And then Sam, like you, I felt guilty for not telling the truth, so I added, but the sets would be more beautiful if they'd been placed in front of Charlton Heston.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Well, the crew absolutely screamed and Thai magazine picked up the quote and the producer from 20th century Fox called Bob Howard, the general manager, the station, and said you get no more ads from us unless you get rid of Barber. And Bob Howard, who saved my job three times, said, well, my wife loves John. And so, we'll have to do without your ads. But they only threatened. They never stopped doing the ads. But the producer demanded equal time.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And Bob Howard said, no. So he spent five years going through the local courts in LA, the Supreme Court in California, and the Supreme Court in California, the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court, th, th, th, but, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, but that, but that, but that, but threat, but threat, but that, but threat, but their, but their, but their, but their, but their, but their, but their, but their, but th, but th, but th, but th, but th, but th, but th, but, but th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, their, their, their, their their their their threat, their threat, their their their their their their threaten, their the was ruled on by the Supreme Court of the United States and Sam. What they did is they denied him because they said, quote, John Barber's reviews are of no public importance. Dude, mine, John, that's amazing. Yeah, I, I, for those who don't know what the fear doctrine is, I think you gave a little explanation, but it's basically, the US requiring television radio broadcasters to present contrasting viewpoints
Starting point is 00:26:54 on controversial issues of public importance. And the reason this is, and this was part of the two-part series of Reagan and Clinton destroying, um, and basically... part of the two-part series of Reagan and Clinton destroying basically. Oh, you are so right on. I'm glad you gave me that straight line. First of all, the reason is two-fold that we lost the fairness doctrine. One is unbelievable story, which is detailed in the movie, the American Media and the second assassination of President John F. Kennedy, when Jim Garrison, he had not gotten into court
Starting point is 00:27:34 yet and... Oh, hold hold hold. I just, I want to basically tell everybody really quick who Jim Garrison is, because they might not know before we start getting into what is he doing because I think it's very important that people know because I just discovered this through you know our alley booking you on the show and I just discovered this guy so I want to get in before we start talking about his exact case I want to talk about the can I do you mind if I do a little description of Jim quick before that, John, and then I'll let you continue your point? Well, absolutely, go ahead. Okay, so basically what, uh, what is going on is that, uh,
Starting point is 00:28:15 Jim Garrison was a district attorney, I believe in New Orleans, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. And who investigated 1963, assassination of President John F. Kennedy. His independent investigation, according to the movie, according to research, looked into whether there was a conspiracy through the government to assassinate the president. Can you give us a little more background on that, John, because this is very interesting because you won't hear this in any school. You won't hear this anywhere. Listen you won't hear at any place except in the film the American media and the second assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:28:54 First of all, when John Kennedy was murdered in Dallas and the Warren report and the Warren report, and the Warren report, Jim Garrison believed the Warren report came out a couple of years later. Jim Garrison believed the Warren report. Because when I interviewed him first, he said, John, you know, I was with the FBI. I'm in the military. I was at Dachau when it was liberated. And on the wall in his office, it was a picture of him sitting by the barbed wire fence and underneath it, lest we ever forget. It was only again an accidental meeting with Congressman Hale Boggs, who was the only dissenting
Starting point is 00:29:32 member of the Warren Commission, whose dissent was never published. He's on a plane with Garrison and he says, that kid could never use that old rifle with that cooked scope and shoot a rabbit. And Garrison went out and bought, bought three sets of the tetsets. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the th with that cooking scope and shoot a rabbit. And Garrison went out and bought, bought three sets of the 26 volumes of the Warren report. He had a set in his office, a set in his car, and a set at home, and he memorized it, and because Oswald had been in New Orleans, he opened an investigation. The first guy was going to arrest was David Ferry, who was a pilot, who probably flew somebody out of Dallas.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And David Ferry, just after his first questioning, conveniently committed suicide. He left two suicide notes in case they didn't find one. And Garrison was then forced. Then forced, he said, I had to arrest Clay Shaw because I didn't want to find two more suicide notes. Now, the media and the government will tell you that Jim Garrison lost the trial in 1967 is when he arrested Shaw. He went on tell... Who was Shaw again? Clay Shaw was the secret
Starting point is 00:30:48 handler, the CIA's handler of Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans. He had another handler in in Dallas, but the handler in New Orleans was Clay Shaw a very successful, extremely successful businessman who was an executive at a company called Permandex. Permandex was set up by the CIA, a CIA corporation. The garrison could not convince the jury of that. Now, when he get, this is really interesting about Clay Shaw. The government will tell you that he arrested Shaw in 67. In the movie, you see the film clip of him on the news in 1967 saying, we've solved
Starting point is 00:31:37 this case. The Central Intelligence Agency murdered our president. We have the names. The money changed when you see the trial. Now I'm just a kid struggling comic as it was and I'm a street kid, you know, so I sort of have, like you, I have sort of street smarts. And I say to my friends, hold it, it's been two years since he's arrested the Shaw, and the government calls him a lunatic, well why
Starting point is 00:32:05 don't they get out of his way so he can fall on his face. I lost some friends just asking that very, very simple question. He went to trial in 1969, January 29, 1969, serendipity, the birth date of my son that gave birth to a decent life for me because I never wanted a child again, that was just an accident. Any event, it's announced he loses the conspiracy case, but he actually won the perjury case. Now he had rock-solid evidence against Clay Shaw that would have gotten him 99 years. Now I'm going to put that on pause a second just to bring up this fact that you're very,
Starting point is 00:32:49 very well aware of. One of the things that candidate Trump promised us, aside from ending fake wars and bringing the troops, troops home from overseas, that he was going to have all the CIA files open for us, but he caved into the Central Intelligence Agency because Congress mandated that last October all the files should be released, but CIA convinced Donald Trump it's against national security. Now why a 55-year-old murder threatens national security is beyond me and we can't thank Oliver Stone's film for JFK for
Starting point is 00:33:25 getting the assassination's record act passed but let me tell you what it is they do not want released. You and I know the government operates and their agencies all operate in secret. Yeah there no file in the CIA that will come out and say this is how we killed the son of a bitch. What they did not want released were the garrison files. Now there is a fellow named Jefferson Morley, seven years ago brought suit, now freedom of information that excued against the CIA. Not to release the CIA files, they had garrison's files.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And these are the files that name them names and everything, and garrison's files. The Warren Commission files will be released in the year 2039. Garrison's files won't be released until the year 2059 because they're the only files that speak the truth of the actual murderers of the President of the United States. Anyway, Jefferson Morley for five years fought in the courts. He finally lost in the courts in Washington, D.C. about six months ago, and the judge ruled that the CIA has a right to keep the garrison file secret.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And guess who that judge was? Oh no. That judge was Kevinaw. Oh my God! So now you're beginning to wonder, hold it, what is going on with the deep state? There is a whole lot more to this than we understand. Now, what I have... Oh my God! I'm going to tell you some truths.
Starting point is 00:35:09 You know, there are hundreds of great books out there. I've read them all. Hundreds of great films, not so great films. I've read them all and I've made the two best, the two most definitive films on the assassination. If you go to my site, W.W.J.J.Jon. It's a great. It's a great. It's. It's. It's a great. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's a great. I. I. It's. I. I. I. I. I. It's a great. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm the the the to. I'm to. I'm to. I'm the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the to to to to the to to to to the to to the to the. I'm to tell. I'm tell. I'm tell. I tell. I tell. I tell. I toe. I toe. I toe. I'm to to to to to to to to to to the assassination. If you go to my site, W.W.W.W.W.J.B.W.J. It's a great site. I'm looking at it right now. It's really nice. Not only can you see the garrison tapes, the first one, which is an award-winning film, for nothing. You can now have access to the garrison files that the CIA would not release. Now I'm going to tell you a couple of them are you doing that Because I because Donald Trump won't do it and I must tell you Again, I say I was deported from the United States twice. What? Yes, I was deported when I was 17. They caught me in Los Angeles. I got into an argument with a young Republican. And I said to the guy, I didn't know anything, but I said to the guy, that's the first time I've
Starting point is 00:36:10 ever heard those two words side by side. And so he called the FBI and reported this Canadian commie, and they came and arrested me, sentenced me to Terminal Island for nine months in LA. And the story, which is absolutely hilarious. It's like a Neil Simon comedy, is in my book, Your Mother's Not a Virgin, which I don't want to get into now because we're talking about Garrison. About the Clay Shaw. I released these files.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I was deported again when I was 29. I was 46 years of age when I could not find a job, Sam, in Hollywood. I had won five Emmys, the only one in the history of television to win any Emmys for both entertainment and information. And because I was so controversial, I thought because I tried to book Jim Garrison, and the first time we'll get to that story, I couldn't get a job. Now I said to you that I was a non-believer. Two days later, by accident, I had the opportunity to get the first of my four specials
Starting point is 00:37:20 on NBC, which became real people, the most successful show in the history of American television, and the only show that actually changed the medium. Sadly, it changed it for the worst, because when I got in to television, you had a modicum talent and some intelligence and maybe a little charm. Those are all qualities that would get you barred from contemporary television now. And I take boughs for being dubbed by Gary Deed, the critic at the Chicago Tribune,
Starting point is 00:37:54 the godfather of reality television. But it's like wine. If you leave wine out, it becomes vinegar. And all the reality shows have turned to vinegar. All you need now to be a star on television in reality is an absence of shame. But let me tell you two things that you would have, there's a Jewish expression called,
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah. You will quevel when you start reading just two things. If you go to my site and you just Google, first of all, the Shaw files, and the reason I did that one first is because that's of course a guy that Shaw arrested. Now I've got to put that on hold a second and tell you a little bit about Congressman Hill Boggs, who is the guy that thankfully warned Jim Garrison about the fact that there was a conspiracy. You can go to the congressional record, you look up, Congressman Hale Boggs, he is telling
Starting point is 00:38:54 the Congress. Hale Bobbs? Hale Bobbs. Hale Bob. Louisiana, B.O.G.S. He is telling Congress that we need to investigate Jay Agher Hoover and the FBI and the CIA because they lied to us about the murder of John Kennedy. It's on the congressional record. Months later, he gets on a private plane, flies over Alaska,
Starting point is 00:39:20 the plane disappears and his body disappears. They never found him. And guess who drove him to the airport? Who? Bill Clinton. Oh my God! An early recruit by the CIA when he and his wife were in college. And Barack Obama was born to a mother who was in the CIA. Dude, I just got a fight with some. I didn't get a fight.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I have to be very kind to my comedic friends but somebody was putting up and like if you say something about Obama blah blah blah you're just idiot I go on his mother with CIA and his grandfather is OG CIA CIA and the guy's like no he's not I'm like okay you are such a joy I'd hug you if you weren't wearing that god-awful sweater. I love it. You know, all of the people that I sort of voted for, I don't vote anymore. It's like Mark Twain said, if voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it. And then Garrison's favorite quote from him was that, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, th you, th you, th you, th you, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I th, no, no, I was th, I was th, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I th, I th, I th, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th.. I th. No, th. No, th. No, th. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, difference, they wouldn't let us do it. And then Garrison's favorite quote from him was that if you don't read America's newspapers,
Starting point is 00:40:31 you're uninformed. But if you do, you're misinformed. Yeah, it's so true. That is what's happening today, these truths. And any of it quickly about Obama, you know, it was Ron Paul that I, first time I ever put a bumper sticker on my car because it said the guy that Jefferson would vote for. And like Bernie Sanders, Bernie Sanders could have put the election as a third-party candidate at least into the House of Representatives. His crowds were large as large as Trumps, but
Starting point is 00:41:01 they were half their age. Trumps were 50-year-olds and Bernays or 25-year-olds, and I savaged Bernie so severely. The first time I ever said to anybody, anybody, go fuck yourself with the Bernie Sanders. And of course, I was demonetized by YouTube. So what I did being, because I was a successful comedian for years. My mentor was Red Fox and I gave Red Fox his first break on entertainment television which Red led to Sanford and son his real name is John Sanford and his
Starting point is 00:41:40 brother's name was Fred that's why I call himself Fred because his brother died early and he he loved his brother and you can also, that's why he called himself Fred because his brother died early and he loved his brother. And you can also see the clip of him with the funniest ad lib ever in television. You go to that site. Anyway, back to the business of Obama. I was so upset. I was too angry to even write jokes about it. So what I did, I wrote these wonderful funny lyrics to that old black magic.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And if you go and Google on YouTube, John Barber sings the Obama blues. It is absolutely hilarious. Okay, now I want to get back to you. Okay, we'll look that up, but I want to get back, dude man, you're blowing my mind. You're blowing my mind. It's like, it's, it's, you know, I don't want to get too much into Trump right now because we're discussing this JFK thing, but it's like, you know, I remember when Obama got elected, I was a lot more naive. You know, my parents were both tha. I tha. tha. tha. tha. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thir, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, thi, th. It's, th. It's, you know, you know, you know, you know, it's, it's, you know, it's, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It's, it's. It's. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's, it's, it's like, it's, it's, it's, you. It's, you. both Democrats, blue collar, hard workers. You know, I guess at the time we associated Democrats with, you know, multiculturalism for the people, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Republicans, you know, I'm just being honest with you, Republicans represented, you know, fat cats. I, you know, I remember my dad who worked 90 jobs just to make a little scratch. And his big moment was when he joined the, the, you know, the, the, the, th, th, time, th, time, time, time, th, th, time, th, time, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, I was, the the the the the th, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the th. I th. I th. th. the, I th. the, I th. the, I the, I the the the the the the they they they they they th. they the, I they th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin, I th. th. th. the, I the, I, I, I my dad who worked 90 jobs just to make a little scratch. And his big moment was when he joined the Cortland Country Club. And it was such a big thing for him because it was like status for him and his hard work, you know. And I remember I just, I hated the country club just because I, you know, I was, I was, I was a blue collar to the bone, dude. And I didn't hate these fat cat. You know, it's upstate New York, no one's a fat cat. You and I are so in tune because it was Reagan who destroyed the unions.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Yeah. It was right. But, about Bill Clinton, and I don't say this is an opinion. It is an absolute fact and it is in the film. He is by far the worst president in the history of the United States, even more so than Bush. Bush lied us into Iraq, lied us into Iraq and destroyed that ancient biblical culture. But Clinton destroyed the United States of America. First of all, he signed NAFTA, which sent all our jobs overseas. Yeah. Then he repealed the United States of America. First of all, he signed NAFTA, which sent all our jobs overseas. Then he repealed Glass-Steagall, which prevented Wall Street from gambling with the economy.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I lost a $900,000 home because of that millions of other people lost their homes. Nobody was charged or went to prison. But the worst thing that he did is he signed the Communications Act in the early 1990s and put 95% of all America's media in the hands of five corporations. Now I have, I have the limit of friends on Facebook, and half of them are Trump supporters and half of them are Trump haters, and they don't have civil conversations between one another anymore, which is indeed sad. But I've said to the leading Trumpaholic of the entire bunch is that one of the reasons that I made the American media and the second assassination of President John F. Kennedy, because when your boy
Starting point is 00:45:14 Trump was running, he brought up fake news. And it sounded like Jim Garrison. So I went back to the three hours of tapes that I have when I interviewed Jim on September 5th 1981, Sam and I replayed them and it was like he was talking to us today about the media and I never included anything in the Garrison tapes about the media because at the time I was making $30,000 an hour, so I wasn't above. You don't want to rock the boat. Nope. You know how much money that is today, but in any event, I am not a conspiracy theorist. I am a storyteller. And Jim
Starting point is 00:45:55 Garrison's story was the most amazing. Now to be the the Shaw files, is it you go to my side and you just look at the Shaw files, here's one of the things that you will learn. And this is the reason that a suit was brought by Jim Garrison against NBC. NBC sent one of their leading producers who worked for the Central Intelligence Agency and the CIA down to get Jim Garrison's leading witness, Perry Raymond Russo, who was present with David Ferry and Lee Harvey Oswald and Shaw when they were talking about the triangulation shooting of John Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:46:42 After the arrest of Shaw, Perry gave himself up. He just ran to the office and say, I had nothing to do with it, but I am a witness to that. So it was a witness to that.. So that that that. So that. So that. So that. So that. So th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the to get to get to get to get to get to get to get the the the to get to get to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. the the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their garra.g. their their their their the arrest of Shaw, Perry gave himself up. He just ran to the office and say, I had nothing to do with it, but I am a witness to that. So it was one of the lead witnesses. Well, NBC offered him a job in Los Angeles. It's a $50,000 job a year at an insurance company to get out of Garrison's jurisdiction. And they were coming down to cement the deal in Louisiana, and Perry Remin Russel called Garrison Sam and said, what should I do? And Mr. Garrison said, Perry, I hate to ask you, but would you wear a wire? So he wore a wire. And there it was, NBC's leading producer, sent to destroy a perfectly legitimate, important case, criminal
Starting point is 00:47:28 case, it was clearly obstruction of justice. MBC should have lost her license and Sarnoff should have been in prison as a producer, but in any event the FCC had no choice but to give Jim Garrison equal time at 1130 at night, all of which is in the movie. And there you see Garrison on television explaining why Oswald couldn't have done this. It was the CIA. The owners of the country, Sam, saw this, shit their pants on television and said, I hold it, we can't have this kind of truth on television anymore. And immediately the fairness doctrine and equal time were scuttled
Starting point is 00:48:10 never to be heard again. Now I told my Trumpaholic friend, that's the reason I made the movie. Donald Trump could solve America's problem now because you notice that the First Amendment, the only most important thing that Thomas Jefferson and Franklin and all the rest were worried about was freedom of speech. And the beginning of our movie stops starts with Jefferson talking about that, with John Kennedy talking about that and Mark Twain talking about that. And all Trump has to do, he doesn't have to fire a shot or send a drone. All he has to do is pick up his pen and reverse that communications act.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And do not let any one person on more than seven television or radio stations and newspapers. Now, when I was a kid, you may won't remember this. But if your father or mother's still alive, they would remember it. I used to listen, there were 1,500 different owners of television and radio stations, as I said. I used to listen all the time once a week to a real racist anti-Semitic named Father Cocklin. And next to Henry Ford, he was the most anti-semitic, anti-black person I'd ever heard in my life. I never grew up to be anti-Semitic or anti-black.
Starting point is 00:49:31 It didn't bother me. He just eventually went away. As long as nobody in the media advocates physical harm to any other human being, regardless of their beliefs, there should be absolute and total free press. We do not have it. We have suppression of it right now. And thank God for you guys. You know in the film I described the internet as a box of Cracker Jack. It's full of nuts and corn. But once in a while the bottom of the box there is this prize, like Sam Tripoli and Josh Rogin and just Red Pills and 78.
Starting point is 00:50:13 A bunch of other people, whether you agree with them or not. You know what? Half of my friends on Facebook, I do not agree with, but I learn more from people I don't agree with than my friends. So that's why I happen there so we can have these discussions. Now back to the business of Clay Shaw. One of the things that Garrison could not prove that Shaw was CIA.
Starting point is 00:50:39 But what he did, he tried to convince the jury of two things. One of the things he try to convince the jury the jury the jury the jury the jury the jury to be the jury of two things. One of the things he tried to convince the jury of was that there might have been an economic reason for Clay Shaw wanting John Kennedy dead, because he and two other guys had paid a million dollars for a nickel mine in Cuba. And when John Kennedy failed the air support at the Bay of Pigs, Castro kept the nickel mine. Now, John, did that what gets Kennedy killed? Is that, I mean, is that one of the big things? Was the Bay of Pigs?
Starting point is 00:51:11 The Federal Reserve, Israel, not getting nuclear weapons? I've heard several different discussions on that. Okay, first of all, it wasn't the Bay of Pigs. That cost Alan Delos's job as the head of the CIA because he is and his assistant Earl Cabell and said there'd be a quick revolution in Cuba to get rid of Castro if we start the Bay of Pigs. I will get to another interesting story about it. The second in command of intelligence who wanted to see me after my movie came out. What got John Kennedy murdered is that you see it in the film, it's three to five weeks before he's murdered in Dallas. He's on the front lawn with Walter Cronkite,
Starting point is 00:51:58 a project mockingbird CIA asset along with Dan Rather. Dan Rather was the first one to lie to us about the direction the head moved was supposedly a shot from the rear when he was obviously hit from shots from from the front. In any event, oh, what got him killed is he told Cronkite, we are withdrawing a thousand of Eisenhower's advisors from Vietnam. There will be no Americans in Vietnam. We will send them all the supplies and munitions and guns and planes they need, but is their battle
Starting point is 00:52:38 and their fight to win. When John Kennedy was murdered, the day before, and it's in the film, is there is a memo that is signed by one of the Deep State's assets, and this memo reverses John Kennedy's policy about withdrawing troops from Vietnam. And within two days, Lyndon Johnson sent 50,000 troops to Vietnam. If you have ever been in the Army or if you've ever had anything to do with the government, they can't do anything in 24 or 48 hours. It takes a months and months. And there was, aside from the 50,000 troops, were another 20,000 body bags.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Why were they making so many body bags if they didn't know they would be coming back full of young men? Yeah, and now we're hearing stories about, and this to me, when I go to sporting events, you know, I did mushrooms at the World Series, full disclosure, and I saw how military, it's all the military message there, you're bombarded with it.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But if people knew from the research I've done and guess I've had on that they sent heroin back in these coffins with these dead soldiers, man. These are sons and daughters of people who joined to protect democracy and their country and they were sent into a war, another banker war, and on top of that, not only did they lose their life, but they were used as drug mules being sent back. I don't know why people don't care. I mean, there was a whole movie made about it. A lot of them care, but they know they cannot do anything about it.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I mean, as I said earlier, when Mark Twain said, voting made a difference, they wouldn't let it vote. You know that I do not vote. I don't even vote. I have General Motorstock and I can vote in General Motorstock and I used to and I thought, well, hold it. I have no say over the design of the car or how many miles a carburetor can get. I'm not doing this anymore. I don't. So I just connect to collect the royalties and the dividends that they send me. And that's the end of it it it of it th. the of it the of it the. the. And the. the. And the. the. the. the, the, the, the, the the, the the, the, the the, the, I'm, I'm the the the the the the the, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm the, I'm the, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's the the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the the the they. the the the thethat's the end of it. But let me tell you some shocking truths, both about Clayton, how smart Garrison was. When he arrested Shaw, not only did he research their background,
Starting point is 00:55:14 he researched the background of the Central Intelligence Agency, created in 1947, and on his deathbed, Harry Truman, who started it said it was a worst mistake I ever made. Yeah, they do this a lot. I'm, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. the the the the the the their, I'm their, how their, how their, how their, how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how how, how how how how. How, how. How, how. How, how. How, how. How, how. How, how. How, how. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I'm, I'm, I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the. the the the the the th. the the th. the the. the the. the the. their, their, the, it said it was a worst mistake I ever made. Yeah, they do this a lot. I'm really over these politicians on their deathbeds, thinking they can get some kind of like love back by admitting to this stuff. Like, you know, Woodrow Wilson at the end was like, oh, shouldn't have made the Federal Reserve. You know, it's like, hey dude, kiss my ass. You know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, the, the, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, the Federal Reserve, you know, it's like, hey dude, kiss my ass. You know, you brought up the Federal Reserve and you brought up Israel, because I get a lot
Starting point is 00:55:51 of people, I mean thousands of them talking to me about Mossad did it and the Federal Reserve did it. They did not do it. Okay. Because only the Federal Government can block an investigation into a crime. No, no Mossad can do that and no federal reserve can do that. But in the movie you see that what John Kennedy did a year and a half before he was murdered, he signed executive order 1110.
Starting point is 00:56:24 This called for the printing of Treasury notes as constituted. He signed executive order 11110. This called for the printing of treasury notes as constituted by the Constitution of the United States. We should have the treasury printing our money. And the reason he did it was, in 1963 and 62, if you borrowed money, let's say you lost your show and you wanted to build a new set or your farm burned down, you want to borrow money from the bank, the Federal Reserve charged 21% in the early 60s.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Just ask your father about Reagan, it was worse than that. So and what happened is Kennedy said, you know, we should print our own money. And the money is, I have some of that money. They are silver notes. You can redeem them. And if you wanted to borrow $10,000 from your own government, you could pay it back at one and a half percent. Well, any idiot knows that in a year, the privately owned, held her, the Federal Reserve is owned by six private families.
Starting point is 00:57:25 They would all be on food stamps if John Kennedy had lived. The moment he is pronounced dead at Parkland Hospital by Dr. McClellan, Garrison showed me the death certificate, a bullet to the right temple, cause of death, those printing presses stopped. Also, the other thing that John Kennedy was doing, he was trying to get A-PAC. The American Israeli Political Action Committee registered as a foreign lobby. Indeed, they are a foreign lobby.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Now, you cannot blame Jews for saying never again, after what happened in Germany. For sure, man. But they, what they do is they lobby for Israel. They don't lobby for the United States. As a matter of fact, we have 22 leading dual citizens, Israeli-American citizens who determined our foreign policy in Iraq and our domestic policy. And I called for, I did an open letter to Harry Reid who voted for it and I said, hold it. Teddy Roosevelt said a hundred years ago, only a hundred percent Americans should hold
Starting point is 00:58:31 office where any kind of policy is. And I said, you don't find any dual citizen, Irani Americans or Irish Americans or, you know, Scotch Americans or Chinese Americans. They're all Israeli Americans. That should not be legal. And of course when YouTube saw that, they demonetized that and I have to take that open, open letter down. Now the other thing he was trying to do, aside from getting them into a court, he demanded
Starting point is 00:59:02 that Israel opened Domona. Op for inspection for the nuclear attack. Now is this JFK or Garrison did this? Who did it? John Kennedy did this, not Garrison. John Kennedy demanded they open. Then Gurion resigned because he refused to let the American. What you're talking about, John, for those who don't know is the Israeli nuclear facility. Is that what you're talking about? That. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That. That. That. That. That, the, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thi, is, is, is, is th, is, is th, is th, is thia, is thia, is thia, is thia, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thi, know, is the Israeli nuclear facility?
Starting point is 00:59:26 Is that what you're talking about? That's right, and you may remember, because Israel is the only country, first of all, without defined borders, but it's also the only country in the world that has not signed the nuclear nonproliferation pact. They have yet to sign it now. They benefited from John Kennedy's death. And you might remember, 20 years ago an Israeli scientist went public and said, we have 150 nuclear bombs.
Starting point is 00:59:58 They put him in solitary confinement for 10 years. Now, we all know that Israel and the deep state have been salivating over an attempt to overthrow and take over Iran. You may recall I I posted this on my Facebook because I recall that West, you remember the name Wesley Clark? Of course, Evan, the hammer nail, hammer nail speech. Yes, yes, Wesley Clark was on Democracy Now, God, that's the only time you hear the word democracy in this country anymore. Anyway, it was, it was in 2012 and he said that the Secretary of Defense at Rumsfeld showed
Starting point is 01:00:41 him a slip of paper, and on this piece of paper he said, here's there are seven countries that we're going to take out in the next 10 years. Now six of those countries are gone. The one country that's not gone is Iran. And I always thought if Jim Garrison were alive, he would say to Donald Trump what he said to me on November 5th, 1981, when I asked him, Mr. Garrison, do you think the president runs the country? And he said, John, I did until I murdered John Kennedy.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And I'm going to tell you from here on in, no president will run the country. And I am totally convinced that one of the reasons that we are having so many problems and so many disruptions on the media is that Donald Trump realizes he does not run the country. Now, a lot of people who follow him or the Q people who follow him, they believe there's some sort of secret plan at work, but he does not run the country. We all know that now. I completely agree with that.
Starting point is 01:01:49 You know, it's like, and for me, man, on the show, we talk about this a lot. You know, when I talk about Israel, I always have to do this disclosure because I feel like there's powers out there to be that are looking to take people out to talk openly about this stuff like you, me, John and everybody in this room and everybody listens to the show. You know, to me, there are, there is a very powerful group of people at the top. They are not Jews, they're not Muslims, they are not Christians. They might be Catholics, but that's a different story. Jesuits, international banking, Kabul, whatever it is, man. They use these religions as masks to walk amongst us.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And the reason I really push that hard is because if there comes a day where this all comes to a head and there's a war going on, our Jewish friends who are just like blue collar, people like us, who just want to feed their family, take care of their stuff, th., th., th., th., their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, their, and, and, and their, and, their, their, and, their, their, and, and, their, and, and, and, and, their, and, their, and, and, their, and, and, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, and, and, and, their, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to feed their family, take care of their stuff. They're going to bear the blunt of this bullshit and these people at the top are never going to feel anything. Because they never feel anything. I wonder, John, if there will, I mean, if there'll ever be war, if it wasn't for this group, thi thiiiiiiiiii. people who seem to infiltrate every group at every high level. Again, not Jews, not Muslims, that Christians. This group, I'm just going to call them lizard people. Not saying they are, but we can just call them that.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And that just infiltrate these groups that get us all the fight with. You know, it's like when I'm Armenian, dude, I know about the Turkish aggression. But when I look at Turks and I look at the young tukukuke, turks, I look at the young, the young, the young, the young, the young, the young, the young, the young, the young, thuke, the young, the young, the young, thuzea, thu, thus, thus, thus, thus, thi, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they's, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they.e, they.e, they.a, theymea, they.a, their, their, their, their, they're, they're, they Turks, they're probably Kizarians. And when you go back, who are the Kazarians? You know, and like the fight, I do, does the average Turk hate the average Armenian? No, but these people get us to hate each other and fight over stuff that, you know, why they make cash, they make us all fight with each other. Sam, you and I are like Siamese twinsins for twins for twins for twins'm so glad you brought up the business, because often you have to, if you say something truthful about Israel, and Israel is very smart because they shut down that kind of conversation by accusing everyone, and they said this to Amy Goodman on democracy now, we do it deliberately to stop anti-Israel talked by calling people
Starting point is 01:04:06 anti-Semitic. A Jew, a prominent Jew said that on her show. So I would suggest if anybody has a least sort of inkling that I might be anti-Semitic, which I am not. I suggest you, remember in 1972, the Munich Olympics? Yes. Okay. I was a critic at Channel 11. And what we used to do to do is, to do, is we, is a to do th th th th 1972, the Munich Olympics? Yes. Okay. I was a critic at Channel 11. And what we used to do is we used to watch the feed from the Tonight Show to New York to watch Johnny Carson's monologue. Now I had had a long, long feud with Johnny Carson because I had been, I had a long, long feud with Johnny Carson because I had been, I had been a very successful stand-up comic on Merv Griffin Show and when Merv went to CBS to do his show late night
Starting point is 01:04:51 at CBS he signed me had Westinghouse sign me as his replacement and Westinghouse used the ratings that I got as his replacement to get David Frost's money down so I never got it. I was booked after my third or fourth appearance on the Murriffn show by Johnny Carson, and guess the date I was booked? What day? June 6, 1968, the day they shot Robert Kennedy. Oh my God! And they tell me to come down to the office and I'm telling him and his producer and staff, you cannot do a show tonight. You just can't. And I said, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, th, and, and, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi down to the office and I'm telling him and his producer and staff, you cannot do a show tonight. You just can't. And I said, you know, and they said, well, people need to be entertained. You can't entertain. You just killed the next president of the United States. They just murdered John Kennedy a few years ago. You cannot do it. And I can't do it. And they told me if you don't do it, you. And the the th. And the th. And the the th. And, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and they, and they, and they, they, they, they, they, th. And, they, they, they, they, th. And, they, their, the, the, the, and the, and the, and the, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, th. And, th. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the th. And, th. And, the th. And, th. And, the th. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the the th. And, the they told me if you don't do it, you never get on. Well, you know, I was aware of the fact that if you got on like Rodney Dangerfield and Steve Martin and all these guys I knew
Starting point is 01:05:49 and used to work with, well, your career could be made. Yeah. Worst mistake I ever made in my life was doing that show. I wanted to just go down until the audience, from my heart how I felt. And I had the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. the. I the. I theou. I theou. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I told. I told. I the. I the. I, the. I was the. I was the. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was the. I was the. I was the. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm, the. I'm, te. I'm, tean. I'm, tean. I'm, tea. I'm, tea. I'm, toda. I'm, today. I'm, today, today. I'm. So I hadn't and I Carson called me to sit down next to him and you know what he smelled like he smelled like my mother. He smelled like an absolute total drunken slut. Johnny Carson? Yeah and again I got started the show and you know the way I got on the ton is that where I became the private writer to
Starting point is 01:06:27 Frank Sinatra. Sinatra knew the story of me and Carson and couldn't wait to book me on the show. You go to my site and you Google John Barber on the Tonight Show with Sinatra. You'll see a monologue there that's as funny today as it was. It wasn't. And then the story is in my book again. Your mother's not a virgin. I must tell you something, Sam. I'm gonna send you three guys a copy of this book. I would love that, dude.
Starting point is 01:06:57 It is the best book ever written about anybody in show business ever since Ben Hex a child of the, child of the century. Now we don't have time. I could tell you hundreds of hilarious show business stories, but I wanted to stick to the business of the assassination. Except when we were at Channel 11, we, Munich happened. And so I had written a review, and I'm waiting, like, 25 other people in the newsroom, to have Johnny Carson talk about it, because we knew Jack Parr would have. He wouldn't have had an audience.
Starting point is 01:07:32 He would have just talked for an hour to his audience at home. And Carson comes out, he does this horrible joke about Doc Severance's jacket and about Ed McMahon's drinking. It was so repugnant after this horrifying tragedy of the Olympics and these athletes being slaughtered by Black Tuesday. I tore up the review. I went on television and ad-libbed for four and a half minutes what it must be like to be a Jew in this world today.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Within two days, not only did it get 5,000 requests for copies, I got a call from Neil Simon. Neil Simon was being given the Heart of Israel awarded the Beverly Hilton Hotel and said, would you come down and emce it? And as a result of that, my film became the official fundraising film for the United Jewish Appeal for the years 73 and 74 and made $30 million and I was made an honorary Jew. And when I went down to the Hilton, I got this great, oh oh and I must tell you, Neil Simon wrote the liner notes, my first album was called It's Tough to Be White, and the liner notes are by Dick Gregory. My second, and you can see that on my second album, based on my reviews was called I Meta-Man,
Starting point is 01:08:59 I didn't like. And Neil Simon did the liner notes and he called me six months later he said John I must tell you that's a least successful writing I've ever done in my life. John listen. But in any of them you can Google that and it is still moving to this day. So John as we wrap it up here because I mean honestly John I got to be honest with you dude Every show I'm like I hope this goes well You know it's gonna be a show every show you go this gonna be the best show ever but man I'm really blown away by you I mean like you've done so much. I'm just a dick joke comic
Starting point is 01:09:38 I'm just a dude. No, no you're not trying to grind you know but man you are wonderful human being As a critic I'm you. I I I I I you, I you, I you, I you, I you, I you, you, you, you, you, I'm just you you you you the you the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi, the thi thi tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the the the the the tho, I'm just the the tho, I'm just tho, I'm just thi, I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi to to thi to to thi to to to thi to to to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi trying to grind, you know, but man, you are a wonderful human being. As a critic, I'm going to tell you, you are so much more important than I am. What I have done, it is a greeting card to America and a thank you to America for the magnificent life, the magnificent career they gave me. Now, you know what, there's no question about, I hear people say, you know, that memories we had of the great movies and performers and television and movies that were in the 40s and the 50s and the 30s, that our government is long destroyed and I tell them, hold it, hold it. They have not destroyed them, they self-destruct because the older you get, the more you realize it's all bullshit. the the the the the the the the the the the the the more.. the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the old, the old, the old, the old, the old, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is is is is is is is is is is is thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, thi, is thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their their the throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes, and thri, thi, thi, is theruct because the older you get, the more you realize it's all bullshit. All of those movies were bullshit, but we, and we live in the bullshit capital of the world, but thank God we still have the freedom in this country, as limited as it is, to say it's a bullshit capital of the world. So you have a much more important platform in this day and age
Starting point is 01:10:42 than I have, but my film will outlive every movie, every book ever written by the assassination. Now only 80% of the people in this country now would believe the Warren report, but in 100 years, 100% will know that Jim Garrison solved the case, which is an open, to the to'cane, which is an open, today, the report, but in 100 years, 100% will know that Jim Garrison solved the case, which is an open cold case at Justice Department as we speak. So what I would like to say to you, Sam, the most important stuff about the assassination, we haven't even gotten to. So sometime maybe, maybe on April Fool's for God's sake.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I would love to do this real quick, John. I want you to give us, and I mean like we can stay for as long as you want to stay. Tell us about this trial. Like I want to hear some details about what happened in this trial. Okay, I won't keep you any longer, and I'll tell you that. I'm in no hurry. I just think you're a busy man. I don't wanna, we have time. I just wanna know, tell me about, we're gonna watch the bus. Sam, you know what?
Starting point is 01:11:56 My wife said, let's move to Las Vegas because it's like your mouth. It's open to the tapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. to to to to to to to that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's. that's that's that's. that's that's that's. that's that's that's that's that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi we're here. And your mouth seems to be too. But I'm just going to tell you a couple of quick things. If you go to my site, W.W.W. John Barber's World.com, just Google, the Shaw and the Fairy. You will know everything you need to know about the assassination and how Garrison solved it. Now I'm going to tell you some tidbits that Garrison had. Little known, when he arrested Garrison, he was so anxious to protect his case and Garrison's rights that not only did he go through a grand jury, he had a special panel of three of the leading judges in Louisiana. Here the case before he did anything. Clay Shaw's attorney was a guy named Diamond, who happened to be in the film the the the the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the film the the the the the the the the the the Hear the case before he did anything. Clay Shaw's attorney was a guy named
Starting point is 01:12:47 Diamond, who happens to be in the film, by the way. And what Clay Shaw did before the three judge panel, he introduced the 26 volumes of the Warren report because Clay Shaw is never mentioned in the Warren report. The three-judge panel reads the 26 volumes and calls them inadmissible because they're ruled hearsay. They say publicly and legally it was never an investigation. If anything, it was a cover-up in an investigation. Oh my God. No media ever, ever reported that.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Now, when it comes to Clay Shaw, this is how smart garrison was. He could not prove that, and the jurors told him if you could prove in some way that he was CIA, he said on the stand he committed perjury. He was CIA. But if you could prove it, we'll convict him. They only took eight minutes to convict them of perjury. And now, with the business of the trial, some of the things that he introduced, he got 10 years of his employment records and his tax records,
Starting point is 01:14:03 all with Permandex and a Mississippi Boating Company all run by the Central Intelligence Institute. Oh my God! Well not enough to convince a jury, but then, get this, he has one of the magnificent things about Jim Garrison. I'm going to tell you a very personal story. In 1982, when I was making the documentary, he was on his deathbed. And I only had dealings with his daughter Elizabeth. At the time, it was 1992 when I tried to make the film.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Oliver Stone was in trouble with the Washington Post and everybody over trying to make his movie. So, and what had happened, he had asked, he the the the the the the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the documentary, he had asked the documentary, he had asked the Washington Post and everybody over trying to make his movie. So, and what had happened, he had asked Mr. Garrison before he got sick, if he could also make a documentary as well as a film JFK, and Garrison said, no, I want John Barber to do it because John Barber not only lost the best morning show in American Los Angeles, he lost the most successful show in the history of television, real people trying to tell my story on national television. So John's going to tell the story. Now the interesting thing about Clay Shaw and Garrison, when Garrison was on his deathbed. His wife had divorced him because of the stress of being followed by the CIA and the FBI
Starting point is 01:15:26 everywhere. They were all over there. They had no life, so the wife left him. Got a lot of money. Being lonely, she married a guy that used up all her money, so she was broke on his death. their together, he's got five kids, and get me a marriage license and get your mother over here, I'm going to remarry her. So the mother comes back over, Liz comes back over and looks down at him and he's frail,
Starting point is 01:15:52 and Dan and sickly. She said, Jim, for God's sake, it didn't work the first time. And he said, well Liz, it's going to work this time because I'm not going to be around too much longer, so let's get this over with. And she said, why on earth are you doing this? And he said, honey, I hate to tell you this, but I'm a cop and I know that your husband, ex-husband didn't do well by you. I have a very large pension and when I'm gone, you're going to live on it on it got married and she lived on his pension. And that's a kind of man that Jim Garrison was. And the other thing that he did is that Clay Shaw was an absolute and total raving mass
Starting point is 01:16:33 sadistic, sadistic, homosexual. That's how he lived his lifestyle. And he lived it in- That seems big in this thing that, you know, it's like, and to me, man, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, John, and to to to, and to, to, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to me, to me, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, and, is, and, is, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the thing that, you know, it's like, and to me, man, John, Demini and I just want to get this, like, I just feel that like the demonization of the gay lifestyle is done purposefully to push these guys into the darkness and that now they can be blackmailed and put into positions and that's true, but in the case of Jim Garrison, he told his staff, none of this is to be mentioned in the court when we're doing the conspiracy trial.
Starting point is 01:17:11 We are going to save it for the perjury trial, and this is why. There is a guy named Harvey Lesnick from Northwestern University, sent a naffidavit letter to Jim Garrison saying his best friend friend lived with Clay Shaw for 12 months and he replaced another homosexual lived there 12 months and Clay Shaw kicked that guy out because after 12 months he had a heterosexual trans sexual operation and when he became, he became a she, Shah kicked her out. They had three 20, they had three 20 year old, $20, $20 male hookers, all with affidavits. And there they are in the files that they had sex with Clay Shaw, David Ferry and Lee Harvey
Starting point is 01:17:58 Oswald. Harvey Oswald is definitely a bisexual monster. Yeah, no question about it, because that was, the one picture that we see of Oswald with all these people is at a gay party. But that's, you know, that's their lifestyle, but you're right, they could have been blackmailed in any kind of hostilities. Now, what Garrison said was, this is never to be introduced in this trial or don't report it to the newspapers.
Starting point is 01:18:28 But when he won the perjury conviction, he said to his staff, Clay Shaw is now going to sing like a bird. You're going to know all about Helms and the CIA and intelligence and the deep state in this country because his very prominent successful businessman in New Orleans doesn't want his life destroyed because the other affidavit they had was from a guy named James Whalen, W-H-A-L-E-N, offered $25,000 by Clay Shaw and the CIA to murder Jim Garrison. What? What? Yes, $10,000 down in the CIA to murder Jim Garrison. What?
Starting point is 01:19:07 Yes, 10,000 down and $15,000 later. Now he went to Garrison and he filled out these affidavits and he said, Mr. Garrison, I contemplated it. I'm ashamed to say this, but I didn't do it because I was being paid to get rid of you And I can't do it because it's just too big a crime to commit My daughter is deathly ill and the CIA and Mr. Shaw promised me the best doctors in America to cure my daughter if I murder you, but I just can't do it. That would have gotten shot 99 years in prison and Garrison said you're going to see him cave in. Well, of course, the government knew he was going to cave in.
Starting point is 01:19:54 There in the very opening of the movie is a 60, 1967 CIA memo released accidentally in which they tell the legal department they have to help Clay Shaw, otherwise Jim Garrison is going to have a successful conviction of conspiracy in the murder of John Kennedy. And that alone, it doesn't say that the CIA murdered him, but they are complicit in trying to sabotage a very legal investigation. It was obstruction of justice. Now to me, one of the most interesting things in the ferry file.
Starting point is 01:20:30 That's the guy that Garrison wanted to arrest first before he committed suicide. He was a pilot. And in the Ferry files, there are three things that are dreadfully, dreadfully important. Show you how smart Garrison is. The very first thing that he did is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the the the the, the most, the the the the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most, the most thiiiiole, thia, thia, thia, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thea, thr-s thr-s one one one one oneyyaughea, thea, thea, theaugh, thea, thr-siolioliolioli-a, thi-a, fully important. Show you how smart Garrison is. The very first thing that he did is he gathered all the media reports from every source, newspapers, radio, and television, the day it happened. And from Parkland Hospital, first thing he gets from Dr. Perry, is that the throat wound is an entrance wound.
Starting point is 01:21:03 First thing you get, he gets new, and this is all in these files. He gets newspaper headlines that say, second gunman at large. But, and they also has reports of, they have a audio recording from Air Force One on its way to Washington, D.C., not with the casket. The casket was flown back in a helicopter someplace else. Not in Air Force one.. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. th. th. the th. th. the th. the th. the the thi. thi. the thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tha. the tha. He is th. He is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. the tha. tha. tha. tha. the is the is the is the is threate is threate is threats isnipa. threats isnipa. threats isnipa. threate is the threate. the. the. th Not with the casket. The casket was flown back in a helicopter someplace south, not in an Air Force One as Jackie Kennedy. But there are generals on record on this audio
Starting point is 01:21:33 recording talking about the fact that one lone nut couldn't have done this. And there it is. Now he could never introduce it. It was too late to get it into, he found it too late to get it into, into the trial. But then to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me the the the the the to me, the to me, the the to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, to me, the their. to me, to to to to to to to the. to the, the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. to their. their. the found it too late to get it into the trial. But then to me, two things, he said very simply, John, you know when there's a bank robbery, they put up a circumference wall of cop cars to surround the bank to stop any getaways. Here we have the FBI in the radio reports and the Dallas police say, withdraw all these. So there is no surrounding, you know, roadblocks to these cars. Oh yeah, too.
Starting point is 01:22:17 But then you will remember this, even if you were not born. You have all seen Lee Harvey Oswald on television, and somebody newspaper man is saying to him, did you murder the president or did you kill the president? And Lee Harvey Oswald says, this is the first time I've been told about this or made aware of this, I need some legal representation. Now, he says that, but what people do not know, he says it after being in Chief Curry's office for 10 hours with 15 cops and FBI and CIA. Jim Garrison found a man who was in that meeting.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Now Chief Curry said, well, we don't have room for stenographer. We do not have room for a recording machine. So no records are kept of the most horrific murder in the history of the United States of America and maybe in the entire world. It is almost as comparable as killing 6 million Jews because the murder of the president resulted in millions and millions of innocent people being killed. That's dude. Military industrial complex. So in any event, this guy says to Jim Garrison, nobody ever asked a question because here you have all these six feet ten cops with the magnums
Starting point is 01:23:46 and Stetsons and whenever an innocent, now it only takes a handful as you pointed out to disrupt and distract anything. There were innocent cops in that room who tried to ask questions of Oswald and were stopped by the suits. So he was never asked in those 10 hours, did you ever kill the president or Tippet? And the reason he didn't ask Arison said is because if you're a 20 or a 21 year old kid,
Starting point is 01:24:15 and you're surrounded by these guns, and somebody says, did you kill the most important man in the world? You know you're gonna say, God, tham, I didn't do that. I'm just a Patsy. They just sent me here to infiltrate a group. They didn't even want to give them a chance to even say that. And all of these things are in these files, and I must say, as much as I love my film and Garrison and Oliver Stone's films and the great books I've read,
Starting point is 01:24:43 you only have to look at these thua thua thua thua thua thoom the their their th. their their their their their thi the great books I've read, you only have to look at these two files. You can Google them on YouTube, one is 17 minutes long, one is only eight minutes long. You watch that 25 minutes, you never have to watch anything else the rest of your life to know that the United States government murdered John Kennedy. They were aided and abetted by the media, all proven in the film. It is now a cold case. In 1979, the House Select Committee concluded four shots had been fired. They found the dicta belt of Officer H.P. McClain that was left open, recording all
Starting point is 01:25:18 all the gunshot. They turned it over to the Justice Department, asked them to further investigate, which them to further investigate, which they have never done. And all that matters, you know, I must tell you something, Sam, everybody contacts me about 911, about Robert Kennedy, about John Lennon, and rock star murders and all the rest of it,
Starting point is 01:25:39 and I said, don't talk to me about it. The Lynch pinned to it as all, is the murder of John Kennedy, which, which, which, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, too, too, too, too, too, the, too, the, the, too, the, tootalk to me about it. The lynch pinned to it as all is the murder of John Kennedy, which is an open cold case at the Justice Department. You open that and it unravels and solves every political crime committed in America. Final questions because we got rapid on, I know you got to go. Hey, George Bush. Was he on site in Dallas and because we know he might be one of the three hobos one of the things that Trump did release one of the many documents that were released in the JFK dump one was that put George Bush senior in Dallas and And we also know that during Reagan's assassination, that the Bushes met and had dinner
Starting point is 01:26:32 with the Hinkley's the night before, that they are old oil tycoon families, friends from way back. Is George Bush implicated at all in these assassinations? Well, there's, we can only talk about facts and truth. First of all, there is a picture of George Bush, supposedly George Bush in the film at Dily Placid. But the truths of the matter is that the Bay of Pigs operation was code name Zapata. Zapata was the name of George Bush's oil company. The two boats that transported the Cuban exiles were called the Barbara, his wife, and the Houston,
Starting point is 01:27:22 where he had his oil company offices, which means that George Bush was a major player at the Central Intelligence Agency from the very, very beginning. And also there was a memo in the film from Edgar Hoover, you know, because FBI, they have their own platform to consider and the CIA wants they have their own, their own platform to consider and the CIA wants to preserve their platform and their bellywick. Jay Edgar Hoover often hated the CIA and he outs in the movie in a document the fact that George Bush was in Dallas on November 22nd snitching on a guy named Perot is a possible assassin. Oh my God, dude.
Starting point is 01:28:10 This has been one of my favorite episodes, man. Hold it, here's what I suggest you do. First of all, I've got to get from Allison, your address, the names of everybody there. I'm going to send you three books. But I suggest, one night if you getthree books, but I suggest one night if you get a chance, you spend two dollars, go to Amazon, get your favorite beer or wine or whatever, and your buddies, you sit down, it's two hours and ten minutes, and it's broken up in the ten different nine-minute segments, so it's easy to watch. You will literally be blown away just by the information,
Starting point is 01:28:48 the facts, and the drama and the humanity of Jim Garrison. And at the end of the film, this is the last thing. When I spoke to Garrison, he gave me the names in 1981 of dozens of people who should be arrested in question for the murder of John Kennedy. Some of them are still alive. So when I finished making the the names in 1981 of dozens of people who should be arrested in question for the murder of John Kennedy. Some of them are still alive. So when I finished making my film two years ago, I put it, and you'll see it at the end of the film, I put together a 10 most wanted list of people who should be questioned who are still alive, and I delivered it myself to the Justice Department in the presence of my lawyer.
Starting point is 01:29:26 And the first one there is Dan Rother, who lied to us about the Zapruderfilm. The next one is Bill Moyer. Bill Moyer was the aide to Lyndon Johnson who ordered the bubble top removed in Dallas. And the third one was Barack Obama, who is President of the United States, should have signed an executive order demanding the release of all the CIA files. And then there are seven more on that. So that's how the movie ends, and that's how this little interview will end. Final question, how heartbreaking is that picture with Jackie Onassis, sitting there with those guys knowing most likely that those people in that
Starting point is 01:30:07 room, those smirking motherfuckers, excuse my language, John, these smirking guys taking pictures with her were most likely involved in the assassination account. That to me is one of the most heartbreaking pictures I've ever seen in my life. If that was my mother, I would be going nuts on those dudes in those rooms. I would be payback, you know? I hate it when you say horrible words like smirking. You know what? I find it very difficult at this time in my life to either look at a picture of John Kennedy or a picture of Jim Garris. My heart just breaks. When I look at it, I mean I have a whole bunch of John Kennedy stamps.
Starting point is 01:30:51 I can't even put one on an envelope. I just don't want to toucest. In any event, I can't thank you enough for having me on the show. Now listen, you are a guy who has met. Jesus, I feel like you're my soul brother for God's sake, but I would love to come back at some time when you want to have another hour and a half that you want to explore the, there is much more to this garrison JFK murder, and also since you are in show business, and so successful as a comic, you will love, love, the stories that I tell about all of the major comedians with whom I worked and knew well.
Starting point is 01:31:38 As a matter of fact, after I did my album, It's Stopped to be White. I got a call from Lenny Bruce when I was in San Francisco at the Hungry Eye. He was performing at a jazz club doing mostly not his act anymore, but his court case. And I was the last person that he spent a day with in his house before he opened at the Golden Bear in Huntington Beach and then was probably murdered by the LA police. That story in the book is just unbelievable. We'll get into that. I'd love to have to have to have to have to have to have to have the to have the the the to have the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz club the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz the jazz. I the jazz the jazz. I the jazz. I the jazz. I the jazz. I the jazz. I the jazz. I the jazz the jazz. I the jazz the jazz the jazz the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th the the. I the. I the. I the. I the the tog. the the the the the the the the jazz club. the LA police. That story in the book is just unbelievable. We'll get into that. I'd love to have a story about that. We haven't done a Lenny Bruce episode.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I would love that. Dude, honestly, John, you are, I mean, you have an open door policy to come on the show anytime you feel that you just want to come and talk to another comic about the world and what's going on. His website is John Barber world.com that's and Barber is B-A-R-B-O-U-R-S world okay dot com. He's got everything here man I mean I'm looking looking at this so much stuff we could talk about. I really, dude, I mean, like I always get, I love every episode we do, but sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised by how incredibly, you go beyond my expectations. This was an episode like that. I'm very thankful that you'd spend some time.
Starting point is 01:33:02 I hope you're having fun in Vegas. I'm out in Vegas all the time. There there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's thi, thiol-a' there's there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. I's, thi. thi. I's thi. I's thi. I'm thi. thi. thiol'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'ero'a'a'er's tho'a'a'a time. I hope you're having fun in Vegas. I'm out in Vegas all the time. There's ever a chance we could powwow and talk. Maybe do a live show. Listen, I will treat you to Amagianos because not only is it great food, they play Sinatra all the time. And what I will do, aside from sending the book, and thank you. And I must tell you, people will love, the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book. the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, I will the book, the book, I will the book, I will the book, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will, I will will will will will will will will will will will will will, I will will will, I will will will the book, I will the book, I will, I will will the book, I will, I will, I will will will, the book, the book. And I will, the book. And I will, the book. And I will the book. And I will the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, the book, their, their, their, their, their their, their the book, the book, the book, the book, love, love the book. If they like to read it all about it, they will love the book. I'm going to send you the three books and I'm going to send you a Las Vegas Golden Night's T-shirt so that the next time we talk you're wearing that. We'll do it, man. Maybe we'll doto think, I mean I like Vegas, I've been thinking about moving there, that's a different story, but you know, maybe we could do that somewhere live there where we just
Starting point is 01:33:51 have a little night with you and you let me interview you and we just do some Q&A, but that's down the road I'm open minded to it. he came, he saw, he kicked a whole lot of ass. Enjoy Vegas, enjoy my Raiders. They're coming and we'll do it again soon, John. Oh, that is wonderful. I'm gonna send you, I did a YouTube, you remember the movie Network? Yes. Howard Dale and Maddus Hell.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Yes. I wrote a thing for myself to perform about what would Patty Schaevsky right now for Howard Beal in this day and age. And I do it and it's filthy, which you would appreciate, but it's also hilarious and I'm going to email that to you when I send Allison a thank you note. Whatever, anything you got for us, we will take, brother man, you're the best, have a great day, enjoy your 2020. Guys, thanks so much for tunnunit. I'm to to to to to to to to to toen, I, I, I, thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin. thin, thin, thin, the the thin, thin, the the thin, their, thin, thin, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. toda. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. And, your 2020. Guys, thanks so much for tun in. I am going to be at the Phoenix, Arizona, House of Comedy this week, so grab your tickets. And then Oklahoma City and Fort Worth, Texas. Tim Fall Hat's coming.
Starting point is 01:34:55 We love you guys. God bless. Have a great day, and we'll see you guys soon. Open your mind. Drink from the fountain of Nile.

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