Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #509: Systematic Biblical Paranormology Of The Nephilim with Ken Ammi
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Timfoil Hattie.
What the fuck are you guys even talking about?
Global controls will have to be imposed.
And a world governing body will be created to enforce them.
Welcome to Tinfoil Haas. We go deep, home boy.
Aaron, open your mic.
Drink from the fountain of knowledge.
There's lizard people everywhere.
That's some interdimensional mind.
Wake up, Aaron.
This is only the beginning.
There, you just blew my mind. Are you ready to get your mind down?
Good!
Good morning, Swarm and welcome to Tim Fall High.
You know I'm here, I'm here too.
Rock.
Yes, joining me one of my favorite people on the planet, you know him from the hit podcast.
That seems to be growing day by day.
We don't smoke the same.
Xavier Guerrero.
What's up?
Dude, your posts are funny.
You're finding the best videos on Instagram.
I'm killing it.
You're killing it.
You really are.
I feel like you just started doing that forever.
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I just can't watch it.
Yeah, careful with some of it.
Yeah.
The funniest one was that woman's like, the cops are here, her daughter, her mom runs
and pulls the vent over her. So, so the cops would think it was so funny. Sim is just burning up the charts and he's has some stupid ass sidekick
That nobody even remembers name Jay nice Johnny Johnny watered how are you
I feel like that intro was a little bit of a preview of what it's gonna be like when you're about 80 you know trying to do the show You know to try to do the show good? I love that you think I'm to be like art bell you? you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. the you. the you. the the you. you. they. they. you. you? they. you? you? you? you? you? you you you you're about about about about about about about you're about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about about. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. you. they. you. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they. they. they. they. they. they. they.think I'm going to do this till I'm 80
Dude, why couldn't you you could be like art bell just maybe go out I have
Set date that I will stop doing stand-up or an age yeah, but there's no reason you can't always do even if you
You're like it's just you doing zoom from your bed you're
702 is that say is there a reason you pick that number 72 72 is there a reason you pick that number? 72? 72? Is there a reason to pick that number?
Well you know, when I say must stop and say, I'm going to stop like working to set up gigs
and all that stuff.
Something's like, hey, let's fly this old man out and he just babble, maybe I'll do that.
So you're thinking of 72?
The way we thought of 72 will be 52 years okay you're gonna be surprised
how much energy you have at 72 I think and you're gonna you're gonna wish you had
said this I mean 20 years from now my kids will be out of school they'll be
at college time on your hands I'm gonna be the old dad at college you like that my dad's really old bro tho those kids th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the the the the the bro he's really old those kids though were always the sweet kids the kids with the old parents yeah my experience well I
think that older parents I'll listen all parents you love the kids but I
feel like older parents like they there's just this appreciation that they
have them later so you're ready for it well and this is also not this
high stress thing that their kids are chilled out you know does that make sense like I always felt that I think you enjoy your kids more because you're when
you're when you're broke you got two jobs you got to figure this out right
now you're like when you're set you like I did it all yeah if I don't go on
the road to the road to speak it to the road
so I to speak it's Boise.
No you didn't really, Boise, Boise, Boise, she goes,
it's Boise, I go, what?
I go, and I got told by a woman that if she had terminal cancer,
I'm on her fuck it list, so I mean, I go, it's this weird kind of feeling where I hope
you never get cancer, but it's good to know I don't't understand why we can't just go ahead and do that now.
Yeah, I mean.
Well, because she's married and I don't, but she's like, if it's coming to an end, you're
on my list.
I'm like, good to know that.
I'm your doomsday.
Would you samutey fucker?
I mean, I might have to. I think people from the outside don't realize how awesome Salt Lake is.
I think it's an awesome city. I think it's completely and utterly underrated.
It's underrated for comedy. I have yet to have a wonderful time in Salt Lake.
It's a great town. The people are wonderful. The women are gorgeous. It's just a great town.
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And I don't know if you guys saw the pictures.
You had a packed house. It's a really cool feeling. I haven't had that feeling since Chicago when I packed out Chicago.
And just like such a long road and I'm so thankful that anybody would ever come and see me.
I would never, I don't care how long this goes on. And who how long it will go on, but as long as it's going on I will
appreciate every moment. That's why I sit in the lobby, you know and I'm just
meeting with everyone before the shows because I, you know what one, I just, there's
no where else to go. I mean I can't, the green rooms are always creepy haunted. By yourself. Yeah, and I don't the the the th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm th. th. th. th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I th. th, I th, I th, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'm, I'm, I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. than, th. th. th. th. th. than, th. th. than, than. than. than. than.'t want to sit by myself. Also, one of the few places you know you can actually meet people close up like that,
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You know what I mean?
Especially with him, what he, the way he thinks, it's like, you know, all these people
are with it.
Listen, we talked about it. And they're all great and I you know and I appreciate them. So thank you very much I hope to see everybody in San Diego this Thursday
Tickets are moving quickly should be a great show Chris Neff a couple of my friends will be down there and then my final show to year and I'm not adding any more shows I not I got so much I have to shoot guns bro. I need time to shoot guns. Is there like a late night range where it go shoot guns. It's like midnight. I???? I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the to. I to the to to the to to to to to the the to thea. I thea. I thea. I thea. I to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the t. I t. I t. I t. I t. I t. I ti. I ti. I ti. I the. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I ti. I, bro. I need time to shoot more guns. Is there like a late night range where we could go shoot guns?
It's like midnight gun shooting in LA, can we go do that, bro?
But it's time for me to shoot guns.
I got a couple guns, it's time for me to work it out.
And I bought all these guns I haven't had to shoot him because I'm just working.
LA. LA. LA. LA. LA. LA. LA. LA. LA. LA. LA. LA. I. I'm just really really really really really really really really really really. Oh, SNAPS! That's late. Yeah, we might have to go.
Daddy's, daddy's buying.
You got guns?
No, but.
I can get some ghetto ones.
I can borrow some.
You need some guns.
I know, I know.
I know, I know.
I'm just, you is what I'm thinking. Like, they wouldn't do it where I'm from. But, well, I want to shot with my one buddy at this one range.
They never checked us out.
Okay, cool, cool.
Let's get some gut.
Do we got to start some.
I mean, I have some I just.
We got to start an axe throwing.
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I've seen that. Oh, I know. That's going to be part of like the zombie apocalypse.
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Your axe, your axe has a lot more use in your hands,
not being thrown as the front of the throwing.
You never know, bro, what if something's coming after your lady
and you don't have time to get the to get.
As the only person in this room who spent a significant amount of time splitting wood with an axe, I will say that believe me
Don't throw the axe, keep in your hands What if I have multiple axe, Johnny, what if I have a whole bunch of axe, roxes, yeah, axe's I, axes. Johnny's kind of right?
Johnny's kind of right? What are you running for office right now? I'm a Democrat, all right?
It's like the guy who throws his gun, you know,
when it's out of bullets, that's that's you.
Just get away from her, take this, let me alone.
John, I'm taking a hardcore cross fuck out.
That'll work against his armies for sure.
I do, hey, it was fine. The Zack Snyder? I got cut some shit, but I thought it was cool. I mean the one where Ticknigarro's an ass kicker?
She sucks. Yeah, like it's just like, it's just get to the point where it's like
I were willing to suspend belief but not that much. Yeah, it's just at that point make her fucking be able to fly dude well yeah I mean we can talk about it for hours this thing about hundred pound Asian
women beating the shit out of guys like tape Fletcher and stuff you know and I'm
like okay it just makes me laugh so much bro what are we doing yeah I mean
but here's the problemines of what we understand about
women fighting, right?
Yeah.
And then two mayor came, you're like, okay, she got a big reaction kick at.
Now it's like, dude, every, like, waive models are just karate chopping, just hordes of ninja.
Yeah, it doesn't.
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What was it about this time?
You had a private old tenfoil hat
that mentioned, ramp rar and murr and yeah well this doesn't go on YouTube you got us a strike yeah
I know I have a permanent filter now on me I can't say respect respect guys this is
a great show we break down where they're actually nephalm in the Bible and uh Ken
Ami is goes pretty deep pretty passionate about it and it turned out to be an absolutely
wonderful episode I hope you enjoy anded out to be an absolutely wonderful
episode. I hope you enjoy and I hope to see you in San Diego and Tampa.
So let's get into it. This is a very interesting conversation because I think it's
very important at this moment because believe it or not, I believe
this topic has a lot to do with what's going on right now with this DNA splicer and all this stuff.
So this, please welcome our guest. He's an independent researcher and apparently a giant killer.
Please welcome Ken. How are you brother?
Ready to kill.
I love it brother.
Ten, for our listeners who may not be familiar with you,
can tell us a little bit about yourself
and where they can find you.
Sure, they can find me a true, free thinker.
So just go there, it's user friendly.
Everything you care to know is there.
Like you said, I'm an independent researcher, I basically just latch on to whatever happens to interest me at the time and research it until my brain doesn't work anymore.
And then I apparently inevitably end up writing a book, so I've published, I guess I haven't counted lately maybe around 50 books 50 books oh yeah wow that's impressive for all you know it's
a bunch of nonsense it could be coloring books we don't know it definitely
could be coloring books but either way a book's a book man I had kids so you know if it's a
coloring book I'll definitely have them check it out so you know if it's a coloring book I'll definitely have them them check it out so uh you can go to your to the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. thi tho tho th. th th th th th. th. they they th. they're they're they're th. they're th. th. they're th. th. they're th. th. they th. they th. they th. they th. they th. th. they they th. they th. th. th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I definitely have them check it out so you can go to your website check that out so today we
want to talk about the Nephlam but my question is where where does your
journey start well I started life as a child but you probably already knew that
well I mean you never know know. You never know.
I mean, I've heard crazier shit.
I mean, you might be a clone.
You could have coming out of some weird kind of laboratory.
We never know.
The thing is, I started life as a child, so.
Cool, congratulations.
Now, when did your journey?
OK, it's an open mic night. When did you, when did you begin your journey through this into looking for the truth?
Oh, okay, that's a, that takes us way back to when I was still in single digits, that's for sure.
Because where I was born, I'm not, I wasn't born in the US.
Where I was born, we don't have the tooth fairy. We have the ratonsitos, the little mice.
And they play the same role as the tooth fairy,
but you know, you guys get like a beautiful,
mystical fairy and we get vermin, okay?
So now at one point I found out that there's actually no such thing as the parents doing it. And I was lividvidvidvidvidivivivivivivivivivivivived, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I was, I, I, I, I, and the, and the, and the, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, and they, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, the the the the the the the the they. I was they. I was, they. I was, they. I was, they. I was, they. I was, they. I was, they. I was, they. And, the the the the actually no such thing as the ratonsitos, it was just my parents doing it.
And I was livid.
Yes, dude.
Yes.
So, yeah.
Now, I definitely trace back to that.
When I was in single digits,
just trace it back to that and being just stunned.
That I was told it wasn't true. And here am I, you know, all the, and, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all, and all they, and all th th th th th th th th th th th thi, and all thi, and all thi, and all thi, and all thi, and all thi, thi, and all thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that I was told something was true and then was told it wasn't true.
And here am I, you know, all these years later.
So in our sixth grade,
I would go to this place called the library
where they have these things called books, you know,
and I'd get the little drawers and look through the little index cards
and I would read all about cryptozoology, UFOs, aliens, witchcraft, anything mysterious,
right, the world's mysteries. And that's kind of interesting than that by now I've ended up
attempting to specialize in what I term systematic biblical paranormalogy. So it's kind of like
I took those interests and have brought him into my study of the Bible.
And so another part of my background is that I'm Jewish,
but at a certain point in my life,
I came to accept that Jesus is my Messiah.
And then so that really took me a lot more seriously
into a study of the Bible. And I thought, well, you know, there's God, and then there earth dwellers, right? But then there's this whole in-between realm.
And I wanted to know what does the Bible say about all of those characters.
And so that's part of a book series I wrote because I wrote up one single book about all of it, all of it.
And then when I was done, I thought, oh, man, this is a bit much. This is like a th like a thr, like a th, like a th, like a th, like a th, like a th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. the the the their, the the the book. the book, the book, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible. the Bible, the Bible, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the Bible, the the the the the the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the Bible, the oh man this is a bit much this is like a drink from the fire hose you know so let's put it up into a series just to make it a little
more digestible and then I've pile it but I mean just on the issue of
nefala alone I've written depends how you count on maybe seven or nine books so
yeah I mean that's why I'm saying anything I researched heavily it inevitably turns into a book. That is a wonderful wonderful answer and I thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the thi thi thi theateat. the. the. the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I'm the. I was just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm theeeateateateateeateeat. I'm theateeeeeat. I'm theat. I'm theeeeee. I'm just the. I'm th. it inevitably turns into a book. That is a wonderful, wonderful answer and I really do appreciate it.
There's so much unpacked there.
First of all, I couldn't agree more with you.
Yours was the teeth mice.
Mine was Santa Claus.
Yeah, of course.
My next door neighbor, Mrs. Lavoie.
I don't know why she would do this, but she just told me Santa didn't exist.
And I was like, you bitch, why would you ruin it? And it was never the same. And my next two
Christmases, I was pissed. I was pissed because I knew what my parents were doing and I'm like,
how can you do this to me, man? I know what you're doing, man. We were on the road at a horse race and I had to be in a hotel for the Easter and the
Easter Bunny came.
And I just saw my mom like in the hotel room and I was like, oh God.
I was so mad, dude.
I was so pissed that I went and told her.
I was so pissed that I me go tell her. That's so bad. Yeah, my mom was pissed when I told her. She's like, why?
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
I know things.
I know things.
And that's kind of how you get into this under.
Like, if you, you know, you'll talk to your friends who are like, I don't know,
we'll call them normies, right. How could everybody be in on this? You're like, dude Santa Claus is like, everybody's in on it.
There is an unspoken rule.
We don't question it until somebody does it
and then everybody gets pissed at that.
The fucking mall's in on it.
The mall's in on it.
Dr. Fauci's in on it.
Right, I mean, it's just, oh, just... Hold on now. So since Santa is going
house to house, he's going to get vaccinated, right? Yeah. Oh, he needs his booster.
Wait till that comes. That's coming out. That will come up. And like all those people need to be
dealt with in a very tough way. If not, Santa's going to be a super spreader. Yeah. Is Santa wearing his mask as he's putting down gifts for everybody? It's unbelievable.
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So, you know, then you go to, you start getting into this, you know, the Bible, and
the Bible is such an interesting thing, you know, and for you to come be like, I'm Jewish,
but I accept Jesus, you know, it's just very interesting because I'm, I have the same kind of
thing going on, right? I'm not Christian, but I realize the role of this figure that they called Jesus.
And I talk about it all the time on the show, so you can have to hear it again.
It's just like the story of the man born to a virgin that is told in all these different religions
and philosophies, right?
That I'm not?
Okay, dude, I'm dumb. Talk to me about this because I've
been told what, tell you what, let's take a step back because in the early
discussions about what this show would be about, something came up that I
actually had forgotten so I wanted to start with that and it was a question
how can you tell what is the truth on the right path?
And I believe that question came about from something that you asked Gary Wayne.
If I remember correct?
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay, and incidentally, I just debated Gary Wayne last week.
So, and how'd that go?
You'll have to watch it for yourself.
But I might bring it up a little bit. And it's not to throw th th throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw throw the throw the throw throw the the to throw to the to the the to to their to tho to tho thoom o' to watch it for yourself. But I might bring it up a little bit.
And it's not to throw them under the bus because, I mean, the video's on my channel
so anybody can actually watch what happened.
Anyhow, so you know, there's a question prior to, how can we tell what is the truth?
And that would be questions like, is there truth? And if there is, why should we care?
Okay?
Those are the primary questions,
because how can we tell what is truth
is kind of presupposing that there is truth
and that ascertaining truth is some kind of universal imperative, right?
Like a must do. And so that is an initial issue. For example,
I have tons of discussions with atheists, and one of the things I always point out to them is,
look, on your world view, truth is accidental, right? Because the universe is accidental,
truth is reflected as the components of the universe, well, that's accidental.
And guess what?
Our ability to discern truth is also accidental.
And there's no universal imperative
to adhere to truth, nor to demand that other people adhere to it either.
The whole thing's done right there.
So that's why I'm saying that it's important to discuss truth in to it either. The whole thing's done right there. So that's why I'm saying that
it's it's important to discuss truth in the first place. And incidentally, Pontius Pylet asked
Jesus, what is truth? Point blank. And little did he know. He was talking to the very man who had said I am the truth.
Okay, so kind of like if you say, well, um, I have some sort of regard for Jesus.. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to the to to the to to the the to the to the the the to to to discuss, the to to discuss, to discuss, true to discuss the the true true truth truth true true true true true true true true true true true tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tru. tr, it tr, it the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. truth. tru tru th am the truth. Okay, so kind of like if you say, well, I have some sort of regard for Jesus,
but I don't believe he is who he is claimed to be in the Bible,
then that makes it very difficult,
because then you're talking about somebody
who's at least incredibly untrustworthy,
at the very core of his person.
So let's jump to the issue of virginity for a second. So th, so th, so th, so th, so th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thooooooo. tho. tho. tho. the, th very core of his person. So let's jump to the issue of virginity for a second.
So this is one of those claims that sort of asserted
and watered it down.
Interestingly enough, I was gonna talk about watering down
when we go cross culturally,
when we get to the issue of Nephalm.
You'll hear that Mithras was born of a virgin, virgin. Okay, well, mythraz is said to have to have to have to have to have said to have said to have said to have said to have said to have said to have said to have is said to have to have to have the the thus is said to have thus is said to have the issue is said to have to have the issue is said to to to thus is said to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. to, to. the. the. the. Okay, well, Mithras is said to have been born out of Iraq.
Now, oh, God grant you, we could say a rock is a virgin.
At least I would hope so.
Yeah, I gotcha.
That's like a rock concert right there, you know what I'm saying?
The Buddha, well, he was born of a virgin. Well, no, the story is that his mother had a dream
that a white elephant came out of her side.
I mean, I guess that also could count as a version.
But you see what I'm saying,
is when you actually look at the fir,
the primary source of material,
the original stories, you're find out what is being described as virginity is, it's just a category error.
It doesn't fit the bill, right?
I, I, well, I love that.
I'm glad I heard this because, you know, I just thought it was the same story being told
in different words and different languages and different ways.
It's like if you see a car crash and you ask several different people what happen, they'll all give you their own version of the story.
But it's the same kind of car, it's the same car crash. But you're telling me
these are categorically different stories. Yeah, the category error is straight up.
Yeah. So now this brings us to like, for example, the epic of Gilgamesh, okay, it has an arc that is a cube.
Well, a cube is not a seaworthy vehicle,
a seaworthy boat or ship.
It's not gonna float.
It's gonna topple all over the place.
Yeah, it's probably gonna sink.
So now you could see, okay, you know, if we're seeking truth for whatever reasons we might
have, whether it's a subjective personal preference or we have a universal imperative implied
by a world view, that would be suspect at the very least.
Well, you look at the Bible, you have a vessel described that would be seaworthy.
Meaning, incidentally, it's just a barge. The arc was just supposed to float. It's not going. It's, it. It's, it. It's the, it's the, it's the th. It's th. It's the th. It's th. It's their th. It's th. It's not their their thi. their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, it's th. th, it's th, it's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's the the the thi. It's the the the the the the their thi. their thi., meaning incidentally it's just a barge.
The arc was just supposed to float.
It's not going anywhere.
They're not traveling around.
They're not on a cruise.
It's just supposed to float.
So you can kind of see how by maybe having as a story where it's the same dimensions all around,
so you have this cube that they just never worked.
So that's the sort of thing that would clue you in on, okay, at least this aspect of
the story, it's really not reliable.
Let's look for another source that seems more reliable.
And now, let me just say a word about why would it be that ancient cultures all over the world
who apparently would have not had any contact with each other do have at the very core of
their cultural identity, their myth and legend.
Similar stories, an original creation of a garden, a flood, the survival of very few, an ark
this and that, angels or gods or aliens
or whatever you want to call them, cohabiting with humans, very common things.
It seems to me that during the, prior to the Tower of Babel event, humanity lived in relative
proximity.
Okay, now after the Tower of Babel event, they were dispersed throughout the Tower of Babel event, humanity lived in relative proximity.
Okay, now after the Tower of Babel event, they were dispersed throughout the earth.
So they would have taken with them what was then commonly known and shared history. Okay, and then with time, yeah, with adding a little changing here and there,
that ends of being called myth and legend.
But you see why there's still a core of truth in them. That's what it seems
like to me anyway. So we ask this a lot. Is it of your belief that the stories of
the Bible are true stories that happen or are they miss to learn lessons from? The Bible is an anthology of various genre.
So for example, everybody knows Jesus told a lot of parables.
Well, obviously a parable is a parable. It's not a literal historical account.
Whereas there are literal historical accounts, there's also a genre of poetry, there's metaphor,
there's symbole, symbolism, and there's stuff where it's like on this year,
when this king was ruling, this happened, you're like, okay, well, that's literal history, right?
So it's like a combination.
And part of what being a discerning
reader is really not just a reader of the Bible, reader of anything, is that you
have to understand the genre you're reading and then you have to derive from
the text what it's telling to you. Instead of bringing you to the text, your
preconceived notions. This is in the field of study called hermeneutics, which is just rules about how to interpret really
any text.
It's called exegesis versus isages.
So you want to exegit a text.
So it's telling you what it's telling you, instead of saying, no, I'm going to read into
it, thii.
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interpretation onto it right I understand that dude I actually that's
something that Gary Wayne and I had to battle out a bit even though I mean it was
between brothers but yeah that was something I had to talk to him about a little bit
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I think that's another reason they said they were virgins.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah.
I don't know your thought.
That's Xavier, our trusty sidekick here.
Well, because I mean, wherever she'll occasionally ask you a thrown, the reason she's saying that is because if she would have said, I'm pregnant without having an excuse
of a dude, she's going to get stoned so everybody lay well, no, she was home all night.
She's something, we heard something, but no dude.
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Joseph cited with her and kind of protected her from that kind of accusation.
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This is a great conversation.
I, uh, so I'm, I'm starting to get into Tataria, right?
And our good friend Johnny Nice over here, Jay Nice, is more questionable of Tataria.
That's why we love him on the show because he's a little more skeptic in me.
And I just, I just so thirst to hear interesting stuff that I, I hurl headfirst into it. But there's part of me that goes, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm that that's that's that's that's that's a that's that's that's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm that's, I'm that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's ato hear interesting stuff that I hurl headfirst into it.
But there's part of me that goes if Tataria is Israel, like they had things that they
could do that we could not do.
And that are there things in the Bible, powers that we heard people have that could
possibly be powers that those that civilization
had that we no longer have. Are you saying that miracles that could be
explained by technology they had back then is that what you're saying? Yeah.
Okay. I mean I don't know if there's any real way to answer that but it's like
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and then you kind of go okay this is from way back in the day they were here
now we hear all these stories that you know that the Bible of these incredible
feats being done is it possible that those were real and that that was the
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I ended up doing the use by the way that was the last time I play video games
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So I mean, if God has the capability of just
willing a miracle to happen we could categorize that as a technology. So
the terminology just gets very difficult. But I would say say for okay for
instance the Atlantis whether it's real or imagined whatever that's
that's a separate issue. You have a concept of a pre-flood world where there was high-tech, okay?
So is that what we're looking at?
I mean, I'm, I don't know, I would say I'm not really convinced that there was much high-tech pre-flood,
but I guess I would think that if angels were hanging around, they knew a thing or two above
the average bear and maybe, you know, people back then, you know what they did,
they didn't do.
They didn't sit in front of the TV for eight hours a day.
They actually had these things called conversations.
So, so, it's a difficult one.
It's really a difficult one because we're, we're dipping our toes in so many pools
of speculation. It would kind of hard be hard for somebody for me who's very
concerned about deriving conclusions based on what we do know that I would probably not
say much more than that. All right I'm in that's a great answer. So the Nephlem is
very interesting to me.
And I have a joke about it in my act about, you know,
there's all these cultures and religions and philosophies that talk about entities coming and mating with women.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Archons, mating with human women, creatingphalm possibly. And then, you
know, in the joke I talk about shapeshifting Jesus, coming down and just dropping a keg of
wolf ass on these low frequency demons and sending them away. And, you know, there's more to the
joke. But, you know, the reason that is important to me, and I talk about it, is because it brings
up DNA and how sacred DNA is, right?
And how, like, now we take a look at what's going on today in this modern, you know, COVID-world
we live in with everybody being forced to take a vaccine.
We're seeing people people like getting heart attacks
that would never get heart attacks before,
people having, you know, all these different issues,
but it's like the Bible talks about how sacred your DNA is.
And that's why I think this is a really important conversation.
And you know, Greg Wilson, excuse me,
Greg Carwood brought that up when he was on the show,
and he was the first one to to point to point to point to point to point to point to point to point to point to point to point to point to the first one to point out to me that the Bible talks about how sacred your DNA is and how this vaccine is like shish-kabbing our DNA.
So do you have any thoughts on that?
If I may, let me take a couple steps back for some quick notes, and then I'll jump on that.
So in Matthew 1, it says, Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved
to divorce her quietly.
Now contextually this was during a time that the Jews did not have the right over capital
punishment.
The Romans didn't allow that, which is incidentally why when the first Christian martyr Stephen
is stone to death, they took him outside the city first.
That's just a note on that.
And then, to me, I'm going to read your little quote from a book called iopic Enoch, with one of the funniest, to me, one of the funniest statements of all pseudopographa,
it says you, this is God talking to the fallen angels, okay?
You, you have been in heaven,
but all the mysteries had not been revealed to you,
and you only knew worthless ones.
Oh, man, I love that. It's like, all the, all the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, are, are, are, are., are., are., are., are., are., the the they-a., are.r., their, their, are.k.e. their, their, they. their, they. their, the, the, the, the all the arcane occult knowledge of all the
pagan all throughout history and God's like yeah whatever you know that's
worthless stuff right there forget about. It is interesting and you know
you know piggy backing off that is just like layers upon
layers upon layers of deceit and misinformation and to keep you from source in my humble opinion.
God and like, let me tell you something man, I was, I had a crippling drug problem, crippling
sex addiction and you know, to talk about spirituality and Jesus and the Bible,
I still have visceral react.
I feel my body tense up as I just talk,
I mean, I'm just being honest with you,
because I'm dealing with a lot of things in my life.
You know, I'm like from who I was to who I am.
And you know, it's like my wiring versus this new
operating system that I'm downloading right now are in somewhat conflict a lot
and you know so when I talk about Jesus and all that stuff I start on gna
and it's like I would be lying to you if I didn't say that but it is what I
believe and it is that know, there's something special
going on and these layers and layers and layers of the seat that this, you know, I never,
you know, I was on a friend's show and we were kind of arguing and I was bringing up DNA and
he and I brought up the Bible and he's like, the Bible. And I was like, that was such an interesting, I found that to just be a very interesting reaction to it.
And I never really got there.
Even when I was in my darkness,
I still had a, you know, belief in God and all that stuff,
but, and I never had,
I always respected people's thing,
but to have a visceral reaction to the mention of the Bible. Yes. It's just a very interesting thing.
So this thing about the layers upon layers of a stinky onion is a perfect
segue to actually get it started if I may. Yes. Although first I want to just
person a person just point out that Jesus said my yoke is easy and my burden is light.
I love that dude. So. I love that, dude.
So just take that with you.
Okay, now, so why are we at the point where we're contemplating Nephilim from the pre-flood
days in today's world when we're talking about what's going on with pharmaceuticals?
Well, Nephalemum have been a subject of absolute fascination for millennia.
Okay, millennia.
They've been interpreted, debated, discussed.
Folklore has been written about it.
And today, you want to get a kick, just go to one of these websites that sell books
and look up Nephilim romance.
I mean, there's a cottage industry of romance novels about about
Nephilim. It's it's and then there's nephalum in video games, movies, songs, you
name it. Now what I thought to do is I think your your audience is equipped enough
with a background and so much that you discussed that I figured figured I'll talk, take a top-down approach
rather than a bottom-up.
So the top-down approach would be that,
is there genetic manipulation going on today of course?
There's no question about it.
It's either in the form of this Vax or in various other forms like CRISPR.
I mean, it's just, it's not a non-issue. itissue. It's happening, we all know it, period, point blank.
Does it have anything to do with nephalm directly?
I don't see that whatsoever, indirectly?
Perhaps, and that there would be certain entities out there
that it would still be,
whispering the same spiel into the human ear.
Okay, so now, th to, okay, so again,
since I'm going top down, I'm gonna make some assertions and I'll hopefully clean them up as we go along.
So I would say that Nephilim, strictly speaking, live pre-flood, they didn't survive the flood, they didn't return after the flood, end of story, period, full stop.
The issue is that many pop researchers, as I call them,
claim post-flood nephalum, and then they take them right up
until the modern day and take them all the way to the eschaton,
to the end times or last days.
Interestingly enough, Gary Wayne was really difficult to pin down on this because he agreed
with me, there's no such thing as post-flood Nephilim, but then it seems like creep into his
assertions that there sort of, kind of was. I mean, he's still talking about how there were
nephalum king's post-flood. I've even heard him refer to that there was such a
thing as nephalum dogs. Okay, I'm not gonna... That's just... Okay, God bless them.
So then who were the nephalm? All right. Now let me just read the primary verse
we have for that. Genesis 6. Says when men begin to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them? the sons of God the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. Okay th. Okay th. Okay th. Okay th. Okay th. Okay th. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, I tho tho, I tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho- tho. I I I I I. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I I I I I I I I I I I. I I. I I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thonenenene. Okay, I'm thoneed thoneed thoneneed. I'm thone. I'm thone. I'm thone. I'm thone. Okay, I'm tho tho we have for that. Genesis 6 says when men begin to multiply
on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them,
the sons of God saw the daughters of men
were attractive and they took them wives,
any they chose.
And then it talks about the Lord and human lifespan.
I'll set that aside for now. The Nephalin were in the earth in those days and also after that when the sons of God came into the daughters of
man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were old
men of renown. Okay. Now this is the first of only two, not even texts, but single
verses in the Bible about Nephilim. Two sentences is all we get. This is one of them.
Now, from here we learned that they live pre-flood.
We learned their parentage,
and that raises the question,
who were the sons of God, who were the daughters of men.
Just to give you a shortcut, I'm not going to argue it,
although I've written an entire book about it called Genesis 6th Affairs, Sons of God, Angels are not. I take the
Angel view. That's the traditional, the original, and the majority view amongst
both Jews and Christians from BC times into centuries into AD times. So then we're
reading that angels came and mated with human women and they produced these people group called Nephalin, who were
mighty and well-known, right?
Men of Renown.
We don't know why.
We're not told why, but they were well-known and mighty.
So that's pretty much it.
Flood comes.
That's they're done with.
Full end right there.
Now, I hope you don't mind a little bit of a Bible study,
but in order to deal with the second reference to them,
I'm just going to have to talk for a couple minutes and lay out an argument.
Go for. My only question is this, real quick before you start.
So it is of your belief that they weren't Archons or they were angels?
And is there a difference between an Archon and an angel?
Okay, so they, you're referring to the sons of God, right?
That made it with the daughters of men.
Yes. Okay, so Arcon would be a term from Gnosticism and that's, you're talking about the first
few centuries AD.
So you kind of have to jump a few millennia in the timeline to pick up that term.
I would say that they're Malakim,
it's the Hebrew word for angel.
Later on in the second temple era,
the pseudopographic era,
that's just prior to the time of Jesus.
These, they would have been referred to as watchers.
It's the term you find in the book of Daniel as well, because the book of Danielia the book, the book, just more, most contextually to the biblical material, I would say, call them Malachim
or Angels or Watchers would be the more direct route.
Interesting.
And, and referring to them as Archons, that might work, but I'm going to, this is one
of those cross-cultural things that I told you would come up and it's going to come up again again again again again again again, if again, if, if, if, if, if, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to just, to just, to just, to just, to just, to just, to to to to to to their, too, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the biblical, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I will, I will, I will, I will, the biblical, the biblical, their...those cross-cultural things that I told you would come up,
and it's gonna come up again,
if it doesn't just remind me, okay?
The issue with the second reference to Nephalim in the Bible,
it's that it's post-flood.
But I just said, there's no indication
that there were any such thing as post-flood.
So how can you have a reference a a a the reference a reference a reference their their their their the what I said. It's a reference to them that doesn't
mean that they were alive on the ground at the time. They're being referenced, but the claim was
that they were alive on the ground at the time. See, this is why I need just a couple
of minutes to call this up. Go for it. So this is numbers chapter 13. Most people just pick up verse 33 and they run with it.
And they incorporated and they turn it into like an all-encompassing worldview philosophy
and hermeneutic, meaning an interpretive lens.
But you need to interact with the narrative.
The narrative is when the Israelites were coming into the land of Canaan, so they stop
and they send in 12 spies.
The spies reconnoiter the land and then they come back and they report.
So it says they brought back word to them and 12 the congregation and showed them the
fruit of the land and they told him, Moses.
We came to the land which is sent us, it flows with milk and honey, and this is its fruit. However, the people who dwell in the land are strong,
and the cities are fortified and very large.
And besides, we saw the descendants of Anak,
the Amalekites, dwell in the land of Negevah,
the Hittes, the Amarites dwell in the hill country,
and the Canaanites dwelt by the sea and along the Jordan. Now that's what I call the original report and it's accepted as is.
That's it. Next verse, but Caleb quieted the people before Moses saying, hold on, let's pause there,
he quieted the people so there's something that disturbed them. Here's what he said,
let us go up at once and occupy it for we are well able to overcome it.
So now what I notice in the original report is that it refers to strong people. There's numerous people groups,
and they live in cities that are fortified and very large. Now the historical and cultural context is at the time the Israelites are wilderness dwellers.
They're itinerate. They live in tents. They're moving around. And now they're like, hold on a minute.
We're going to have to confront people who are strong living in well-fortified large cities.
Huh? So they're kind of freaked out. Right?
So then it says, then the men who had gone up with him,
with Caleb, and incidentally we end up finding out Joshua's sides with Caleb.
So really you have Joshua, Caleb on one side now and the other ten on the other side.
And here's what the other say.
We are not able to go against the people for they are stronger than we. Next, the narrative tells us that now
they brought up a bad report of the land, sometimes translated evil report.
They had spied out saying, so now see we have an original report. Now we have a
bad report. Here's what it says. The land through which we have gone report, now we have a bad report.
Here's what it says.
The land through which we have gone to spy it out is a land that devours its inhabitants.
And all the people we saw in it are of great height.
And we saw the Nephalem, the sons of Anak who come from the nephalum,
and we seem to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seem to them.
Okay, so just to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack to unpack this this this this to them. Okay, so just to unpack this,
let's start at a common sense level
and looking at all of this.
So for one, that they're saying
we are not able to go up against these people,
is a problem because God had commanded them to do that.
So instantly, these guys show themselves to be unfaithful and disloyal, right there and there.
That's a huge character flaw at the very least, all right.
Then they say,
the land, okay, all the people we saw in it are of great height.
Well, the original report noted that the people were strong, and even in their first argument
against Caleb, they said they are stronger than we.
But all of a sudden, they're embellishing.
They're throwing in, oh yeah, by the way, they're all of great height.
That's just a straight up embellishment right there.
And then they say, the land through which we have gone,
it's a land that devours its inhabitants.
Well, wait a minute, the original report had a land flown with milk and honey.
So that's a straight up contradiction right there.
And then they say, we saw the Nophilum.
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Amorites, Canaanites.
Canaanites.
So this is another embellishment.
They're just adding to the story, right?
And then if you recall, now earlier in the chapter,
we were told where the Anacim live,
and now we were told what the other people groups live. But these guys guys thoes thi guys thoes thi guys thi guys thi guys thi guys thi guys thi guys thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. tho, th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th.... tho, th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho. tho. they. they. they. they. they. thooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. the. th mention where the Nethelin live. So that's a missing data point right there, which speaks to me about how it was just an assertion. They're
just throwing it in. They can't pinpoint it because it wasn't true. And then there's a phrase
that it's generally taken to mean that they were claiming the anachem are related to nephalum. That would certainly be unknown in the entire the entire the entire the entire the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the group. the the the group. group. group. group. group. group. group. group. trioooomea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.e. triu. tea. triu. triu. tea. triu. the group is claiming the anachyme are related to nephalum, that would certainly be unknown in the entire rest of the Bible.
It's just nowhere else.
And that the nephalm were very, very, very, very tall.
Now, if you recall, in Genesis 6,
we did not get a physical description of nephalm whatsoever.
And my contention is gonna be that this report is actually, absolutely inaccurate. So then we then we th we th we th we th we they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they were they were they were they were they were th. they were th. th. thi. thi. the. the. thi. they were they were the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. they were th. they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were th. they were they were th. th. they were the. the. the. the. thean. thean. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. they were the. they were they were to be that this report is actually, absolutely inaccurate.
So then we do not have a reliable physical description of an ephalum whatsoever. Just doesn't exist.
This is something I had to contend with Gary Wayne, by the way, because he kept referring to them as giants.
So I asked him, well, how do you know how tall they were?
And he said, I don't know.
And I said, well, then you can't then you can't then you can't then you can't then you can't then you can't then you can't then you can't then you can't then you can't then you don't know and I said well then you can't
refer to them as giants although he insisted on continuing to refer to them
as giants even after I got him to admit he has no idea how tall they were so
that's a little a little side note. So a lot can I jump in yet or you
just another okay keep going a couple of more bullet points.
No problem.
No problem.
Okay.
On a common sensical level, forget theology,
forget the details of the Bible, just common sense.
If you saw the most awe-inspiring beings on the planet,
is the first thing you'd said when you ran back to camp, hey guys, check out this fruit.
Uh, really?
And then what? Oh, yeah, let me tell you about the land.
Oh, and you know, we, they have cities.
No, you'd be like, oh, M. G.
You know, you'll never guess what we saw.
No, they don't do that.
So to me, this, this are unfaithful, disloi dis loyal, this loyal, this loyal, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to. to. to, to. to. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, too, too, too, they, too, too, too, too. toe.e. too. too. too. toe. toe. toe, toe, toe, this are unfaithful, this loyal, contradictory, embellishing guys who actually made five assertions about which the whole entire rest of the Bible knows nothing.
Like if you want to claim post-flammethelum, if you want to claim Anacom were related to them,
and if you want to claim that were very, very, very tall, this one verse is all
you got.
That doesn't exist, none of that exists anywhere else
in the whole entire Bible.
Not a single word of it.
And so to me, they were just made up a tall tale.
It was a don't go in the woods type of fear-mongering,
scared-tactic tall-tale,
because they were so freaked out about having to confront these strong people groups living in big cities
when they're just moving around the desert and living in tents. There's a few
other issues but I mean I think I've said enough to make my point. So in other
words they there were no nephalum at post flood these guys just made it up.
Hold on but were there nephalum ever or is that a
Metsuant?
Pre-flood.
Pre-flood.
There were giants, though, right?
Do you believe they were giants?
Okay.
I mean, what was Goliath?
That's what I would ask.
Okay, good.
So now, I'm inferring that by the word giant, you're implying something about subjectively unusual height.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Heel-ow-neels and like Yao Ming's.
This is something I had to discuss with Gary Wayne.
That is just the modern usage of the word giant.
That's not the roots of it.
The etymology of the word giant is in the Greek gigantes.
That means earthborn and implies nothing about height. So in linguistics there's a difference between a word meaning and a word usage and it can be very different.
So yeah, in modern days in English, the word giant implies subjectively unusual height.
But when you read the Bible, English Bibles that use the word giant, that has nothing to do
with height.
Because if you look at the word, the Hebrew word behind that word, giant, it's either
going to be nephalum in two verses, or it's going to be raff I am and 98% of the rest and neither neflum nor
refi them implies anything about height either and talk let me quickly let me
just give you a read the quotation the J. Edward Wright endowed professor of
Judeic studies who is J. Edward Wright PhD himself he's the director of the Arizona Center for Jodeggs Studies at the Edward Wright, PhD himself. He's the
director of the Arizona Center for Jodegs Studies at the University of
Arizona. Here's what he says. The term traditionally translated as giant in
both the Greek subdugent gigantes and now the English is Nephilim, a term
based on the root nafal meaning fall. It has nothing to do with
size, and then he specified that this goes for both the Hebrew and the Aramaic,
quote, the root Nepal in Aramaic also means fall and not giants.
Okay, so what I'm saying is that when you see the English word giant in English Bibles,
it's not implying anything about height whatsoever.
It's either rendering, not even translating, rendering the word Nephilim or the word
raffaim.
Okay, but the question still remains, were they are unusually tall people recorded in the Bible? Well, of course, there Were they unusually tall people recorded in the Bible?
Well, of course, there's always been unusually tall people.
That's it, we're done, right?
So let me mention that.
What's it said?
No, go on.
I was making bad jokes.
No worries.
I, you know, my kids got me a shirt with a periodic table and it says,
I make dad jokes periodically.
And then I tell, you know, I tell them,
I'm a dad, not a comedian.
Come on.
So let's run through, quote unquote, giants in the Bible really quick, okay? So we have really three categories, essentially, of, um, the, to the, to the, to-a, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, the the thoo-a, the the too-a, too-i, to So we have really three categories essentially of genre or description.
We have generic statements, such as, Aeneken, perfect example.
Now, the Anacim were a subgroup of Ref I am.
It kind of like a tribe and a clan, right?
Anakin were said to have been tall. I mean, it's totally subjective, right?
They're tall compared to the average Israelite male of those days who was five foot, five foot, five foot, three, right around there. Just like a North Korean now might encounter some
Midwestern, you know, Sean Bradley's and think, oh my God, you know, we've just encountered a giant.
Yeah, a giant. Right. Exactly.
So, I mean, and okay, you're reading the English Bible and you see the word tall or great size or great stature or great height. You have to keep that in mind. It is subjective and you need to know what it's subjective to.
In this case, 5 foot, 5 3.
So a guy that's 6, 5, 7 foot, yeah,
that would definitely be tall and great height.
Then you have actually specified heights,
and we only get two of those in the Bible.
One of them is an Egyptian man who is 7-5-ish.
The other one's Goliath, now Goliath is very interesting,
because there's a textual issue to deal with here.
So the Masoretic text, right, the Masoretic family of manuscripts,
has him being just shy of 10 feet, roughly.
But the earlier subterugent manuscripts and the earlier Dead Sea Scrolls and the earlier,
Flavius Josephus, the historian, have him being just shy of seven feet.
Oh my God.
Now, let's think about that for a second, regardless of what we thought about Goliath before,
now we understand that if he was just shy of seven feet, compared to guys that are five, five,
three, yeah, that would be definitely impressively tall. That's all there is to it. Now, let me point out
something interesting that Gary Wayne did.
For one, he decided to reject that I brought three sources that predate the Masoretic and
all agree.
He decided to just go with the latter Masoretic because he wants Goliath to be a quote-unquote
giant.
So he wants him to be taller. Moreover, he says that Goliath was a be a quote-unquote giant. So he wants a higher, he wants him to be taller.
Moreover, he says that Goliath was probably a king.
So then they probably measured him
using the royal cubit that's even longer.
So then he was even taller.
With all due regard and discretion, there's no indication that Goliath was a king.
And I'm afraid that Gary Wayne is saying he probably was, and they probably used a longer
cubit just because he wants to plump him up. He wants a very tall Goliath and he's going to invent
one if he has to.
I mean, I'm sorry.
You can watch the debate.
We discussed that a few times in great detail.
And now, the other thing we get in the Bible is symbolism, right?
Like, we read in numbers 1333, the comparison to grasshoppers, right?
That's not a specific height. I mean, I've done the calculation in my books.
Or the Amarites were told their quote unquote
height was like the height of cedars
and their strength, like the strength of oaks.
Now, if I'm not coming to that text with a mindset of wanting to find giants, I know that he's telling me they were big and strong.
I'm not sure why I need to go and do research on the size of the cedars in the Middle East to then say, well, there's a one-to-one ratio correspondence right there.
That's what the text is implying to me that I need to do mathematics and calculate this out.
Look, they were being strong.
Can we just stop there?
Because there's nothing really more to it than that.
And then there's the issue of presumptions.
Another issue I discussed with whom I'd like to call my new friend, Gary, although he... Is this the the the the the the the the thupupupupupupupupupupupupupupup to to to to to to to to to to to to their to to their to to their their their to to to to to to one to one to one to to one to one to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. to their. th. their their their their their. their. their their. their their. their. their their. their. their to one. to one. to one. to one. to one. to one. to one. to one. to one. to one. to one. one. one. one. one. one. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to their to'd like to call my new friend Gary, although he
is this two pock and big?
It's like a Taylor Swift song or something.
When are we gonna have homeboy on?
He, he wasn't very happy with me.
Just, you just watch the debate. Okay. Now the issue of odd,
of Bashan, okay, OGG, it spelled OG.
So at least we know he was an original gangster, you know.
Sorry, man, I'm a dad, I'm not a comedian.
You're killing it, brother.
You're a flyer to that.
I'm gonna make you a regular.
Now, uh, my dear friend Gary was saying that. I'm going to make you a regular. Now, my dear friend Gary was saying that I was
like 13, 14 feet tall. And I ruined it for him by asking him how he knew that. And he had to
admit he doesn't know that. So again, I had to say, well, then the implication is you can't call him a giant
anymore because you're admitting you don't know how tall he was. But what Gary does, and this
is very common, he says, well, but his bed was made of iron, and the bed was like 13.5 feet or so.
So, you know, you subtract about a foot from that.
Okay, you get a guy who is, let's just say 13, let him have his fun, you know.
And it's like, okay, well, that might be fair enough, but let's begin by admitting we're not told his personal height.
And so if we're going to claim he was 13 feet tall, then let's make it very clear that we're now in speculation land.
However valid, the speculation may be. I'm just saying we need to admit it. Okay. Now what I
pointed out to Gary is that out of a ziggurat, you know what I mean, like a step pyramid
a zigarod called Antimankia, if I remember correctly, a bed, quote-unquote a bed was found
with these the same dimensions as the one that belonged to Og.
And this was not a bed you would sleep on.
It's a ritual object upon which supposed gods and alleged goddesses would mate.
It's not something you slept on.
It was like an altar type of thing, a ritual object.
That's the what archaeology is telling us
is how to understand what it was that Og had.
And besides, I threw in some stuff with Gary that's just common sense stuff we need to think about.
So I told them, look, if you measure my bed and you subtract a foot, yeah, you'd get a good idea of how tall I am. But you would think I was five times wider. Besides, I'm not an ancient sovereign. Right. You know? I got you. I don't have a harem. I don't have luxuries. I'm just a dude with a bed. So I can't tak. their. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have a the the the the the the their. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have a their. I don't have a their. I don't have a their. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have a their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I don't have a their. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I. I'm. I. I. I. I. I. I don't have. I. I. I. I don't have. I. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have a th. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don't have. I don bed. So I can't take my modern day bed and think that I can correlate it to dogs, quote unquote bed.
This is the kind of stuff you really, you really need to think about when you're, when you're taking today's ideas and you're try to force them into the past.
Let me throw this in because this I found as interesting as I found it flummoxing.
Okay, so when I was talking to him
about the etymology of the word giant
and how the ancient meaning from the Greek
is not the same as the modern usage,
he reached back and got a dictionary and read the definition and had one of these kind of moments like he showed me by golly
And I was like you can't use a modern-day
grammatical English dictionary
To tell me what a Hebrew word meant three and a half millennia ago. It's it's incoherent. You can't do that
But he kept insisting we know what what? We know what? We know what giant means. So we're gonna take ta, so, so. so, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, to to to to to you, to to to to to to to to th. thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and they, and thi, thi, and thi, and th, and th, and th, and th, and the the the the the their, and I, and the the the the the the the th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi toli toli. toli. toli. And toli. And toli. And, toli. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi But he kept insisting. We know what it, we know what
giant means. So we're going to take a modern English understanding of it and we're going
to force that into the Bible. So now when he reads the word giant in the Bible all over
the place, he's thinking unusual height. It's, it's, it's completely, linguistically, it doesn't work.
That just leave it at that. There's no way that works.
You can't do that.
So what makes the Nephalum so important that they are mentioned in the Bible?
Okay, so what's interesting about taking the angel view of Genesis 6, like I already mentioned,
is that Jude and Second Peter in the New Testament, they talk about the angels that sinned.
And now there's only a one-time sin of angels in the Bible.
So if it wasn't Genesis 6, then nobody would know what on earth they were talking about.
So part of it is that God has a created order.
There's certain things that God creates to be distinct from one another.
There's the animal kingdom, there's the angelic kingdom, and there's cherubim and seraph.
And that's, you know, if you
want to help me out to talk about angelology someday, we'll do that.
It would just take us away from the issue to get into that.
And so, this is one thing going on in our world right now, incidentally, is an attempt
to collapse God's created order.
So that's why you have a lot of issues with sexuality today
and you have a lot of issues with genetic manipulation.
You have all this breaking down of families
and of sexuality and of genetics.
I mean, we're to the point where we're deconstructing truth.
We're denying there's absolute truth.
We're deconstructing family.
We're deconstructing sexuality.
Now we're to the point where, in our frenzy to rebel against God, we're deconstructing
ourselves.
One hundred percent.
We're saying that gender is whatever you want.
It's not a part of your essential being. So anyhow, so part of what's important about Nephilim
is that they would have been the result of a mixing
of two things that ought never have mixed.
And so they are, by definition,
hybrid, half angel, half human.
That was never supposed to be.
And let me just, for the more theologically minded,
I'll just throw this in. You understand that there's such a thing as that theologi's
talk about it, God's perfect will versus his permissive will, so that it was not within God's
perfect will that this would happen, but it was in his permissive will that it happened because obviously it happened.
And in a manner of speaking, he would have permitted it, and that kind of raises all kinds
of questions. But there it is. The bottom line is that's the issue, is they were the living
result of something that should have never happened. Oh man, and you see this stuff happening
all the time. We had a guest on that talked about how the original sin in a the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the original the original the original the original the original th., th. th. thin. th. th. th. thin. thin. thin. thin. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin. thin. thin. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the time. We had a guest on that talked about how the original sin in the Garden of Eden was that
man thought he could make the rules and that God, that they didn't have to follow God's
rule and we see that happening right now in real time.
And I do believe there's going to be a pushback on a lot of stuff.
I don't personally get into the God business.
I, God's my, you know, we each have our connection with God and what we want to do.
And, you know, I'm not going to tell anybody how to live their life.
That's just kind of my whole thing. And, you know, I think the sin of the world is pain and suffering and everything that comes under that is is you know is against
the laws of God but you know who am I I'm just a dick Joe comic you know but
that's kind of how I see stuff happening but I do see that man is trying to
rewrite all the rules. I personally don't think it's working. I think people are waking up to it all the time. I think they overplayed their hand and now people are like, okay,
you're in bizarro town now and common sense is gone and this is where we're at. And I think
that, you know, that people are looking people I feel like people always say like
you know like people are losing God I personally just believe people are losing
organized religion and that people are finding their own connection to God and
I find more people spiritual than ever and I know there's this whole theory
that the woo woo is anti-god I personally don't't believe that, but you know, that's just me.
What are your thoughts on all this?
Ken.
No, wait up.
I have a question from actually, before the flood,
how many nephalm do you think there was, if there was, was there a good amount,
a handful? But were the nephalm, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th..... What. What, th. What, was. What, was. What, was. What, was. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. threat. th. th. tho. th. th. tho. th. th. threat. the. th. the. the, was. the nephalum like just a bunch of cross fit dudes like where they just like shredded rip guys they were could they reproduce is their
DNA around no I mean they got wiped out right by the flight but they could still
reproduce it doesn't mean their genes wouldn't be on some other chick
what is this no they'd have to be in Noah Monica Lewinsky what it's true
I'm trying to keep up with the number of questions you're asking.
Okay, all right, all right.
All right, we'll start slowly.
Okay, so now, how many were there?
How many Natham were there?
17,583.
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I'm wondering if there was a lot, 5, 10, 100, a lot of Mexicans.
Was there a lot, was it a big try?
Yeah.
Is that what we're asking?
Let me point this out.
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Okay, so if you remember from Genesis 6, it states that
mephalum were in the earth in those days and also afterward, remember that?
Yes. Now, a lot of people take the afterword to mean after the flood.
A ton of people do that. But actually, this is verse four. The flood isn't even mentioned for the very first th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th after the flood. A ton of people do that. But actually, this is verse four.
The flood isn't even mentioned for the very first time
until a full 13 verses later.
And the thing is that it says the nethalm were in the earth in those days and also after that.
When the sons of God came into the daughters of men and they bore children to them.
Well, when was that? Well, in verse one told us, when men begin to multiply in the face of the earth and
daughters were born to them?
The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were attractive.
Well, then so the question becomes, well, when was that?
Well, I have no idea.
It could have been as early as when Adam and Eve. children started having children. And so if you take, I don't know,
I don't want to get into this issue
because it totally doesn't interest me,
but if you take a quote unquote younger perspective,
that's like a millennia and a half
from the time of Adam and Eve to the flood, so if, okay, so this is like speculating,
upon speculating, but you know, you asked. So that would be plenty
of time for plenty of them to be born to the point that they are known as being mighty
and they're of renown, they're well known. How many were there? I have no idea. Now could
they have, could they have, so angels and humans mate, they produce nephalam, because could nephalum have reproduced with regular human women themselves? I don't see why not.
So then you would have had kind of generations and generations of progressively watered down
nephalum. Now could their genetics have made it through the flood? This is partly theological and partly
textual. Since there's no such thing as post flood meflem
that question evaporates.
There's no need to even ask it
because it's a non-issue.
So when you hear these stories about, well, I'll give you, I'll name names.
Okay, so they were two basic camps known as the single incursionists, meaning that angels
made it with humans pre-flood only, not post-flood, but they were still post-flood Nephilim. That's a view
that was taken by the late Rob Skee by rest and peace. And then there was multiple incursionism held by people
like Ali Mizurut, Marzuli, who claim angels kept doing the same thing after the flood.
And they would kind of, you know, they had their little jostling about that.
And I'm thinking, dude, you're both mistaken because you're arguing to prove a point
that can't be made
because there's no such thing as both flood an epitome.
And so the issue becomes that Marzulli's view doesn't work because the Bible doesn't say
a single word about any angels falling again and certainly not doing anything like this again,
and Jude and Second Peter tell us that the angels who sin were incarcerated. OK, they don't tell us when they were incarcerated they were incarcerated they were incarcerated they were incarcerated they were incarcerated they were incarcerated they were incarcerated the their their their their their their th were incarcerated their th. there thu. tho thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th Second Peter tell us that the angels who sin were incarcerated. Okay they don't tell us when they were
incarcerated but you figure if God is cleaning house for during the flood and
it's logical that that would have been the time that they he incarcerates them.
So that doesn't work for various reasons.
Skiva's view that
Nephlam genetics made it through the flood, in the wives of Noah's sons,
again, it's one of those stories he had to invent in order to get Nephilim through the flood.
Well, since they didn't make it through the flood, it doesn't matter.
They didn't make it through in any way, shape or form. So all these stories that people are forced to invent
because they're not biblical are just that.
They're just mistaken, and it's because they go to number 1333,
and they actually believe a bad report by unfaithful disloyal contradictory embellishers,
who, by the way way contradict Moses, Caleb,
Joshua, got on the rest of the Bible, and whom God rebuked.
Who are these bad reporters?
It's just 10 of the spies.
And do you have a feeling on why they did that?
Well, yeah, that's what I was talking about in numbers 13, is that they were super intimidated,
that they're a nation of tent dwellers,
and now we're gonna have to fight a bunch
of strong people groups who live in well-fortified cities
that are huge.
Oh, go vote evish me?
We're not doing that, you know.
That is, I mean, is that not playing out right now too, with like Social Justice Warriors versus like, you know,
Elphas?
We seem to see that happening right now in real time as well.
So it seems like the script constantly, constantly gets, you know,
played over and over and over again.
It's an internal battle forever, which is, you know,
you know, betas versus Elphas.
Incidentally, let me throw this in.
I think this is very important.
There are many, many of what I call property searchers who claim that the
flood was God getting rid of Nephalm. Okay, that's a very common view.
Then they go on to claim post-Fled Nephilim.
So that implies that God failed, right?
That makes sense.
Oh, well, they made it through genetically.
So you're telling me, they found a loophole that God missed?
No, I'm sorry, it just doesn't work logically nor biologically,
it just doesn't work all around.
You know, you're taking that view.
What you're saying is why I think humanity beats what's going on right now.
What you're talking about is that these, these, these, I don't care who you are,
whether you're Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, George Soros, whoever these people are.
They're not bigger than God.
And there are rules to the universe.
And they are not bigger than the universe.
They cannot.
There's certain things that I do in my life, which is abundance.
These people are practicing scarcity, and it's not going to work.
They are not bigger than God.
And this is exactly what I'm talking about.
It's why I believe this thing isn't going to work.
And you see it falling day by day by day.
And the only reason it works right now is because we haven't seen
that the fucking, you know, the cops, the police, military,
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going to sound crazy you could join us in the glory of God and push back or you
could like go down in a blaze of glory but not glory, excuse me, go down in just fire,
bro, because you're on the wrong side of this thing.
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Breacher brother brother, you know, you know what I say resistance is fertile
Yeah, haha. That's a great saying.
Let me read a quotation from Isaac Asimov, who said, and this is within the context of what
we're trying to do with humanity to, the way I would put it, is to deconstruct God's
order and recreate humanity in our own image, if that makes sense, right?
Here's what Isaac Gasmov said. And this is more within the context of the transhumanism,
which is another issue I've looked at a ton.
He says, I wonder if we will make robots so much like men, and men so much like robots, that
eventually will lose the distinction altogether andtogether and have a combined culture.
This may be best after all.
Maybe humanity itself will die out as humanity
and sort of melt into this machine culture.
So now, whether you're talking about robotics
or whether you're talking about manipulating genetics.
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designed to do. And then maybe reaching the point where you're going to have to seriously ask the
question, what is a human? Is this person a human anymore? Where's that line and has it been crossed?
I mean, we're talking about vastly complicated issues up coming in in terms of not only biology, but ethics.
We don't know what genders are right now.
I know what genders are.
Yeah, and they're idiots.
You know what the biggest...
Incidentallyidentally you might
find this as interesting it as it is disturbing. I wrote a book called the
Occult Routes of Post-genderism and basically I just quote occult texts from
centuries ago to decades ago just to all throughout history.
And all this stuff about gender confusion or the mixing and melding of
genders or being hermaphrodites or being androgynous, all this stuff is all over
the cult texts from anytime you look at them. It's all over them.
Yeah, well, we've had talked about a lot of this stuff you're seeing right now in pop culture is from very some, you know, old, old pagan
religions that used to go on back in Greek.
Can I ask a question about that? We talked about this yesterday on Broken Sim.
Do you, something that is in a pop culture
and you hear about it a lot with these rappers
is this idea of selling one soul.
Do you think that's something that someone can do?
Can you sell your soul?
Do you think that's possible or is it gods? Hmm. The traditional concept, I mean, we were kind of thinking of it as a transaction, right?
That you're now owner of this thing that belonged to me.
The way I would put it is that there's this ancient concept of a trickster, right?
There's like the old story of the Faustian bargain.
Right?
You make a deal with the devil or a demon or whatever you want to call it.
And temporarily, the demon's going to give you the things that you want,
but inevitably the tables are going to turn.
And it's going to be made clear to you that you're actually not in control of the demon. That's just not the way it works. And
the word of the way I've actually heard occultist explain it more than once
is that it's kind of like being the demon saying you know you're not
just going to summon me like a prostitute to show up and do whatever you want, the tables are turning here turning you. you. you. the the the to the the the the the the the the the the than. the the the the the the the the the the ta. the the the the ta. ta. ta. the. the. thi. thi. theanan is is is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th is thi. I's is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi is thi is thi is is thi is the demon is the the demon is is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ta. I I I is ta. I's is ta. I's is ta. I's is ta. I'm is ta. I'm is ta. I'm is just just. I'm ta. ta. I'm ta. ta. ta.ea. ta. ta'ea. ta. t whatever you want. The table's returning.
You're not in charge of me.
So what I'm getting at is that,
can a human actually give their soul away?
I don't really see that.
Can Satan or a demon actually own your soul?
I don't really see that.
But it's the same sort of scenario. It's just not that
litigious. It's not like this sort of lawful interaction. It's just something that appears to be that way,
because you're going through these motions of appearing as if you sold it, they appear as if they own it,
and all this stuff happens. So it's effectively the same, is what you're saying?
It's effectively the same.
It's just more like a facade.
I would say, because your soul,
it always belongs to you.
It's part of the fundamental being who you are, body, soul and spirit. And so if we take the biblical view about HE double hockey sticks, and that, if it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, and that, if that, if that, if that, if that, if the, if the, if the, if the, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you,, body, soul, and spirit. And so if we take the biblical view
about HE double hockey stakes
and that if you don't repent and get saved,
you're gonna end up in hell,
well, you're gonna end up there anyway
because that's who you are, that's what you are,
and it's always been you,
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they believe it and the power of will and belief causes a certain energy to be admitted and
you know if the powers that be that are running these corrupt systems know you're willing to sell
your soul, they are, soul, they latch onto that.
And, yeah, I'll tell you something interesting.
So I have a chapter in one of my books
that I actually released online.
So if you look up online, search for the apocalypse of the hidden hand.
And what it is really, it's a Bible study showing how behind the human sovereign,
there's a spiritual sovereign. Right? So behind an earthly king, there's some sort of entity.
And I mean, the Bible is just making that so clear right down through history.
And now another thing is that if you think about how Satan the demons, I mean, they have to
know the jig is up, right?
They have to know they failed.
Well then why do they keep going at it, right?
And when I was writing my book on Satanology, I decided to start thinking of Satan and demons
more in terms of being insane, not just like angry.
And then that made a lot more sense.
Why are they doing stuff that just doesn't make sense?
Well, because essentially they're insane.
They just have lost it, literally just absolutely lost it.
So that if they're going down and they know they're going to thin.
Or maybe they think that they'reto somehow pull it off at the end? I don't know because they're insane. Or else they just figure, hey, we're going to take as many people out as we can as we
come crashing down. Who knows how they think. But it's kind of like a criminal pro friler
type of thing where it's like, okay, J.K. Chesterton talked about how he went into an asylum
and he was talking to some literally insane people.
And he said, you would think that they were just completely irrational.
But he said, that's not the case.
They are deeply rational.
Rationality is the only thing they have left.
And that's why they can come up with these absolutely insane views and they make perfect sense to them. They're able to reason from
point A to point B and see it all the way to Z and it to make to them it makes
perfect sense and you're looking at them like you are absolutely loony you're
totally out of it but toto them, it's perfectly rational, right?
That's the problem right there.
And it's just like conformity.
They just like, they will conform for opportunities for cash and prizes.
And I'm just seeing it happen in real time right now when, when what they were selling basically their soul for in a figuratively
is no longer interested in them you see them melting down like
do you remember when you had me on the the union of the unwanted yeah yeah yeah yeah
okay now I don't remember his name but there was a guy on there who's
self-identified as a practicing occultist.
And he said that a friend of his is an occultist who summons demons.
Remember that?
No, I don't remember that.
Okay.
So what he says, well, I even an occultist was saying to the other occultists, like, that's
just not a good idea, why you're doing that? And the guy tol that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi. I thi. I the thi. the the thi. I the thi. I the thi. thi. that's the thi. that's that's that's that's that's that's that, that's just not a good idea, why you're doing that. And the guy told them, well, because they give me what I want.
And the guy that was on your show said, and I couldn't tell him anything.
I mean, that's the mindset.
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My point is that that's all temporary, right? Like, Jesus says, what is it gain a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul?
I couldn't agree more. And that has my whole thing is like, when I leave Hollywood, who knows when that is, I want to leave with my name intact.
You know, I didn't sell out.
I didn't give away.
Yeah, you always say that.
You're like, I want to leave and not get kicked out.
Yeah, well, I always say that.
But I don't want to be like, well, that guy cut quarters or and was it a giver, like that's important to me. I you know who knows what we really, we really worry hard about our legacies right and I think like, you know, is anybody talking about Johnny Carson right now? Like nobody talks about you and like how big that guy was. What is your legacy is like, how did you affect people around you? And, you know, in particular, your children? Did you leave people in places better than you found. Yes. I. I. th, th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, th, th, th, th, th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we really really really, we we, we really really really really, we, we really, we really, we really, we, we really, we really, we, we, we, we really, we, we really, we, we really, we really, we, we, we, we really, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we th, we really really, th. We really really, thi, thi, thi. thi. We really, really, we really, really, we really, we really, really, we really, we really, we really, we really, we really, we really, we really, we? And you know, in particular, your children.
Did you leave people in places better than you found them?
Yes, I think that's really important.
Everything else is just bullshit.
And it's just, it means nothing.
You could have like a hospital name after you.
Nobody cares.
You know, it's like, it's like, did you connect with people?
That's my biggest thing. You have a building name after you. Just stuff that where you're just
throwing money at to feel like you've done something. Like, okay, are you helping people?
Do you help? That is abundance for me. That's the, oh, that's the best mark you could leave. And that's my humble opinion, dude. And 10, great show today, man. Sorry about the open micr joke at the beginning.
I was on rea, um, not at all.
Not at all.
But just to wrap this discussion up,
I'll go back to what I mentioned in the beginning.
And it's really, it's been your context all along.
Is what's going on today related to the actual Nethel and proper who actually existed pre-flood, no.
But is it the same sort of concept that we're going to deconstruct
God's created order for humanity and mix us in with who knows what,
something else to make us something we were never meant to be?
Yes.
I think it's, I think it's, they're trying again, and I think they're gonna lose again again to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose to lose again to lose again to lose again to lose againthink it's I think it's they're trying
again and I think they're going to lose again. That's just my humble opinion.
They want to push everybody into the metaverse. Go have a good time if you want to. Not my thing.
While you're all in there playing video games I'm going to be out here just learning Croft Mgah. Ken can you please tell them where they they they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can they can th. th. thi the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. their th. their their th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr. thr. true. true. true. try. the. the. the. the. the. thi. the. thi., can you please tell them where they can find you one more time?
Yes sir, true free thinker.com and thank you so much for allowing me to do that.
Ken, you came here, you dropped the keg of wolf ass. We appreciate it, man.
Hope you guys enjoyed this show. It was a great discussion. I think it's very important.
And I hope to see you guys in San Diego. And then my final show is December 11th, I believe, in Tampa.
Grab your tickets because things have been selling out.
So grab them and I hope to see you there.
I can't wait San Diego, Tampa too, my favorite place to go.
I love you guys very much and we will talk to you soon.
Thank you so much.
Thank you all. We go deep home, home home, home, home, home, home, home, home, home, home, home, the the the th, the th, th, th, th, the th, th, th mind. Drink from the fountain of knowledge.
There's lizard people everywhere.
That's some interdimensional shit.
Wake up, Aaron.
This is only the beginning.
Dude, you just move my mind.
Tim foil hack.