Tin Foil Hat With Sam Tripoli - #825: Psyops In The Health Space with Christian Yordanov

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Starting point is 00:01:13 Okay. Christian, you're darn off is coming on and he did. He's about to just shish kebab your brain with how everything you think about health is wrong. Okay. Uh, Johnny Xavier, we were both rock the whole time and this is going to be a crazy episode real quick. As you know, my special is dropping this week.

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Starting point is 00:02:13 All right, so he's back he's he's been on our show before I really loved his last episode It was very insightful and he had a ton of data. So I'm excited to have him again He's got that. He's got some interesting takes on health. so I'm excited to have him again he's got to he's got some interesting takes on health so I'm excited to talk to him please welcome back author Christian Jardendorf how are you buddy Sam I'm great man so good to see you guys I feel like I butchered your last name right there you did yeah I got it right right come on dude that's not what you said dude it's what I say it's close I'm gonna repeat it what you's not what I said. Dude, it's what I say. It's close.

Starting point is 00:02:45 I'm going to repeat it. What you said, I was up, John. It's like it's like you've had enough. You're like you've had enough. Yeah, there we go, buddy. I think I got right. So, Christian, it's been a while, buddy. How are you?

Starting point is 00:02:57 I'm good, man. I am excited to share with you some of the stuff, too. By the way, since we last spoke about 18 months ago, a lot of this stuff I learned in this sort of year and a half. So it's I'm just as sort of messed up by it, at least initially as you and some of your listeners may be. And, you know, trigger warning for this episode because we have a lot of things that you think are healthy. I know I'm going to get some calls from people. That's almost say I know I'm going to get some calls from people.

Starting point is 00:03:26 That's almost say I know I'm going to get some calls from people going, what the hell is this guy talking about? What is he talking about? This is crazy. So I'm excited. So, Christian, before we get into it, why, you know, for those who may not be familiar with your your last appearance, can you tell us a little bit about self-awarelessness can find you? Yeah, so I am a functional health practitioner, author.

Starting point is 00:03:51 I've written two books. My first book was on autism. I've worked with autistic kids and their parents to help them both get healthier. But I kind of, in 2018, I got interested in health because my family members around me were really deteriorating in health. and I did a lot of like Alcohol and drugs in my 20s. So I thought I was screwed I was gonna like end up really but in a bad way in my like my 40s 50s 60s So I I went on a massive sort of health

Starting point is 00:04:20 Journey to figure out some stuff and I got into kind of the biohacking stuff So I was doing all this low carb keto ice bath stuff back in 2018 and I always wanted to work with like, you know biohackers kind of more high performance and I Finally got a chance to write the book on sort of health optimization and longevity which I published in January this year So since then and since kind of appearing on Macro Aggressions with Charlie Robinson I've started working with a lot of guys and it's been a it's been an awesome actually experience helping men restore their health and optimize their health because I like last year when I was talking with you guys I was like oh dude dudes just don't want to be healthy and

Starting point is 00:05:01 shit but it actually turns out there's a lot of really awesome guys out there that want to put in the work, want to get healthier. So this is what I'm doing more of now. My I have a new podcast called How to Actually Live Longer so you can put that into your favorite podcast app. I go on to show you a lot of the concepts that we talk about today. I develop them further on the podcast in a lot of nitty gritty detail. My book is also called How to Actually Live Longer and the website is also called How to Actually Live Longer where you can actually see me show you the science of why keto, low carb, fasting,

Starting point is 00:05:34 intermittent fasting, ice baths, all that stuff is shortening your life, aging prematurely and it's tanking your tea at the same time. Controversy, dude. Controversy, dude. This is talk about going against the grain there. Wow. Like everything you're talking about is stuff that I've been working on. And now I'm like, did I waste all that time, but I'm open minded to all of it. Christian.

Starting point is 00:06:02 So, so where do you want to begin? Because everything you've said right here is like goes against the health narrative, which seems to go against the overall popular culture, which we have right now is, you know, just eat and do whatever you want and, you know, just get fat. It just seems like, or maybe I'm wrong on that. Maybe, maybe. Oh, let's get fat then take ozempic, right? I mean, that's, that's what the popular culture. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:32 It's funny. Have you noticed that it used to be that being fat was, there was a while there where, you know, fat is beautiful. You know, you're, whatever size you are, that's how God made you. Then now that they have ozempic, right? You hear about all these benefits of getting on ozempic. Like you get on ozempic you know you're less likely to get diabetes you're you're gonna live longer it's just it's bad it's bad is really what it is so okay go on that i don't you know you know i'm saying though these bits that they're saying actually come from

Starting point is 00:07:02 ozempic are just from not being a fat fuck for the fuck. This I wasn't actually going to bring up this topic, but by the way, being fat in this toxic environment with toxic, this toxic food supply is probably the next best thing to being actually healthy because seriously, because the other option is instead of synthesizing all that fatty tissue that people are accumulating the other option is like cancer and straight up degenerative disease so it is a second best alternative to just the poison people are eating on a daily basis man you know but i'll tell you again i know people will be triggered and here's the thing if you're coming off of a standard American diet,

Starting point is 00:07:45 moving on to keto, carnivore, low carb, intermittent fasting, a lot of those things you will improve. But the problem is that they're still suboptimal. So you will get healthier. But then they're not enough to kind of really get the goal that most people want, which is health, longevity, longevity optimal peak mental and physical performance So they're a good stepping stone, but I myself figured out that they're not Sufficient if you know what I mean, but here's because your audience is very sophisticated. I know

Starting point is 00:08:17 Especially especially your seasoned listeners. I saw you like on 800 plus episodes now yet So here's what I I I kind of tell more sophisticated types. So I was in an archipelago At a little party there with Charlie Robinson and there was one lady She was like a VIP one of Charlie sort of angels There was like a VIP package and she was like this Canadian lady. She's like, oh, I cannot believe all these nuts are so good Oh the first thing I'm doing is so good for me. I'm like, listen, you're an archipelago. Let me put it to you this way. If you were a would be ruler of the earth,

Starting point is 00:08:51 what would you want the great unwashed to think that starving themselves is going to lead them to better health? Wouldn't you want wouldn't that be like the optimal thing? When we all think, dude, if I starve myself for 10 days, I'm going to live longer because I'm going to operate autophagy. Wouldn't isn't that what you would do? Right? No, I will say one of the guys that I follow most closely, Peter Attia was the big, you know, Dr. Peter, right?

Starting point is 00:09:18 He was an evangelist for this stuff and he's completely done on 180. I'm fasting. He's come around saying that the benefits are purely from caloric restriction, not from any kind of extended period of restricting your eating window. So yeah, hey man. Yeah, yeah. And Peter Atiyah, he lost something like 20 pounds of lean mass during fasting because he was doing the sort of the body scans, the MRI, not the MRI,

Starting point is 00:09:42 but you know the scans, the DEXA scans. So he lost a bunch of lean mass he put on. He said he went from 9 to like 14% body fats with like a few percentage points of fat. Here's the thing, the reason that happened to him, even though he's eating well and he's exercising is because fasting, anything that stresses you lowers your metabolism because that's what the body does in response to a stressor whether that's psychological a lot of you know work travel your business whether that's fasting whether that's you know relationships whether that's keto all of these things raise cortisol and when you understand what re elevated cortisol does to your body on a chronic basis, you have, if you're a logical, smart person, you will then logically say, I need to do things that lower my cortisol, not I shouldn't be going out of my way

Starting point is 00:10:34 to increase my cortisol, right? Especially like, dude, I saw Sam, I saw you on Instagram, I think you were doing a live, so I just kind of tuned in for a while, and you were talking about like, you're doing one meal a day. I'm like I was there in the childhood Sorry, I thought people knew no no no, I'm 51 I'm joking But no you look look amazing for 51. Thank you.

Starting point is 00:11:06 But here's the thing. You want to continue to kick ass. And this is a big reason why these things are becoming mainstream. Sort of doctors are recommending keto, low carb. They're recommending intermittent fasting even to like children now. It is straight up and I have an episode on one of my podcasts it's called low carb diet a deep population too because genuinely if you look at the fertility rates of younger people now guys and girls they're like like one one in two is like infertile almost. And if you look at what a high cortisol does, what a low carb diet does, that raises your cortisol

Starting point is 00:11:49 and a high cortisol, what that does is it interferes with testicular function because the testes, some of the cells run on glucose, the sperm run on fructose, the ovaries need glucose. And when you lower the carbohydrates in your diet, the body starts to shut down, nice to have functions and your immediate survival precedes, you know, libido, higher cognitive function, fertility, these things. And this, I believe, is such a, again, for the listeners, because, you know, you're sophisticated, you have to understand these agendas are so intricately sort of weaved into the the societal psyche That it's very difficult when you grow up with something or where something actually makes you feel better after a few months of doing it

Starting point is 00:12:33 It's very difficult to accept that this is actually gonna shorten your life in the end Well, how many meals are we talking a day if it's not one it wasn't three when it was breakfast lunch and dinner is too much sam wants too little what are we two i i think on the other number between one and three yeah so well i know the way i teach my clients is so when you eat a meal right you eat the meal the next couple of hours you're kind of storing the meal you you're breaking it down, digesting it and you're topping up your liver with glucose or glycogen. So two, three hours, four, five hours later, you're now depleting that stored glucose. And as that liver glycogen depletes, like through the night, let's say like 2-3 a.m., let's say you went to bed at a normal hour, 2-3 a.m. You're starting to deplete that liver glycogen.

Starting point is 00:13:26 At that point, that's when the cortisol, the stress hormones begin to gently start rising. And what I tell my clients for longevity or to restore your health if you have a health issue, you don't want that cortisol to start going higher, right? So every four or five hours for a weaker person or a less healthy or an older person is a good cadence, right? So you start the day with a little bit of a top up And then every three four hours you have like if you're younger if you're like in your 30s, you can go all day You don't feel the stress hormones degenerating you but when you get older and i'm sure you guys know if you're like I don't know how you felt

Starting point is 00:14:00 But actually how did you feel not eating all day and having one meal a day, Sam? So how do I feel? I do feel anxious. Like I'm just looking at the clock until the window. That's the cortisol. I'm working on a joke right now about how like, I'll fast and then when my window comes in, I just become a garbage can and I'm just like throwing everything in my mouth that I can, because then my windows open, I can just do it, right?

Starting point is 00:14:26 So, now I'm like, why didn't I, why didn't I game Wade? It's like, well, because you had Thanksgiving day dinner and birthday cake and all that stuff all at one time. And so I get that, I totally get that. And here's the only thing that makes me go, that there could be, cause I have reservations about what you're saying because people that I, uh, that I really like say, say a lot of the, the opposite, but in my life, that's pretty much the norm, right?

Starting point is 00:14:58 Like what, uh, whatever I believe, everybody else says the opposite to that. So I'm open minded to all of it. Uh, the one thing I noticed that. So I'm open-minded to all of it. The one thing I noticed, and maybe I'm wrong, is that all these diets that everybody tends to do forever or whatever eating system they adopt, it never lasts forever, right? It just ends up like this phase in their life

Starting point is 00:15:20 where they just go through this thing and they're like, okay, I'm fasting for this long, or I'm doing this diet. And then at some point it just ends and then they go back to their old way and their body just reverts to what it was. So that kind of makes me think that maybe there is something to what you're saying that maybe these systems aren't, aren't optimal for us because we tend not to maintain them for a long time.

Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah. optible for us because we tend not to maintain them for a long time. Yeah, and the reason that happens is I like I said I have the on my podcast on my website how to actually live longer go through the studies and the one study on intermittent fasting so 16 8 right which is kind of a common format so after two weeks the participants already their resting energy expenditure was lowered by a median of 59 calories per day. What does that mean? That means if so they're doing two weeks of intermittent fasting 16-8 at that point all things being equal if the metabolic rate stays the same and the calories stay the same over the next year they're going to gain over six pounds of fat, 21,000 plus calories. That's how. So in two weeks, you're without reducing calories, by the way,

Starting point is 00:16:31 that didn't reduce protein or calories. And the same thing happens on a keto diet within four days. You're already the thyroid hormones are lowering. The stress hormones are increasing. Similarly, with intermittent fasting I can show you three or four studies where at the two-month mark the guys testosterone had dropped by 20 to 25 percent and but this is actually very well known if you even if you take a dude and you inject him with like

Starting point is 00:17:01 hydrocortisone which is like synthetic cortisol, immediately the testosterone lowers. So cortisol and testosterone have a sort of a their oppositional to each other. So anything that stresses you out chronically is going to lower your T. That's why Peter Rettia, I don't know if you heard the episode Johnny when he was interviewed by Derek for more plates more dates, but he was talking about his testosterone Peter Ortiz testosterone being like 320 333 50 that is freaking preposterous bro like you're supposed to be like a guy like that he should have a pretty much higher testosterone that's almost the bottom of

Starting point is 00:17:40 the range for America's like 250 is the bottom of the range that is really bad I'm sure there's grandpas out there with like double the testosterone. So that is what a lot of the intermittent fasting and the low carb stuff does because it raises your cortisol, whether you feel it or not, that is having a degenerative effect on your body. That's what cortisol does. Now you said that they kept the calorie intake equal across those two in that study, is that right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:09 Now, isn't most of the benefit they think now probably of fasting the caloric deficit being running a caloric deficit when you want to if you were fasting? I'm glad you asked. There was another study was kind of it was a big study in the University of California, San Francisco. The paper was published in JAMA, the Journal of American, the American Medical Association, JAMA Internal Medicine, bro. And they found, so the conclusion of that study was that intermittent fasting in the

Starting point is 00:18:38 absence of other interventions is not more effective than eating throughout the day, which means if you intermittent fast, that group that intermittent fasted, they lost some weight, but 65% of that was lean mass, right? And so the conclusion and the doctor that ran it, he stopped recommending it to his patients, he stopped intermittent fasting. There was a MSNBC or some other big article about that. And so the people, they basically found that unless you cut calories or unless you do exercise, intermittent fasting is actually not more

Starting point is 00:19:13 effective. So you have to cut the calories. But here's the thing. If you cut the calories, then your metabolism lowers. If you ever go back on the previous calories, you're just going to regain that weight. then some this is the this is I call it painting yourself into a metabolic corner had one client last year. He was Some days he was eating 900 calories and he wasn't losing any weight like and he was like 220 pound guy This is where this is where a lot of people are headed following these regimes, right? So Dude, so so when you say depopulation, that means that this is purposeful that's being done.

Starting point is 00:19:53 Um, is that your conclusion that the, the Psyop has entered the health space on purpose to lower the population, to stop us from having children? I believe this is one of the multi-pronged depopulation approach because here's here's here's how you know it is when I had one one client her granddaughter 16 years of age she was visibly hypothyroid on the on the blood work right and I was helping helping her out you know and she told me that

Starting point is 00:20:26 her doc she's 16 years of age her doctor here in Portugal had told in Portugal dude so remember things come later to to to out of the US you know the doctor told her to do intermittent fasting so doctors have been recommended if doctor point is if doctors are recommending it you better believe that Those are directives coming from their boards those associations that's coming from higher So it's not like it was designed to do to do for that means but when they figure out that oh this this actually is Helpful then it can be boosted. It can be amplified with social media with the algorithm because that that's a study It's not actually Mentioned in the Wikipedia page on at least when I accessed it last in November last year. It wasn't mentioned in

Starting point is 00:21:14 The Wikipedia page about fasting so the narrative on Wikipedia, you know, which were the masses go is that? Intermittent fasting is good. And by the way just to about the caloric restriction I write about that in the book so the thing about caloric restriction is a lot of that research Johnny is done in rats and kind of animals right and what they do is they have a standard lab diet which is very similar for all the animals from rats to even to primates so fish meal ground up sort of like flat soybeans and just it's a disgusting concoction of glorified toxic slop.

Starting point is 00:21:51 And then they feed that to the animals and then they have a control group that eats less of the poison and then they allow that the other group to often to eat ad libitum so they eat as much as they want to get fat, become insulin resistant, you know, develop a bunch of health problems. And then they conclude that the group that less ate poison, less ate less poison did better. And it's like, yeah, if you really handicap the studies that way, it does show that fasting, intermittent fasting, you know, skipping meals and stuff like that is good.

Starting point is 00:22:22 But when they did it with monkeys, there was a couple of big trials with recess monkeys and the one where they ate a more natural diet, the difference wasn't really significant in the lifespan. And then the other one where there was an increase in lifespan in the calorie reduction group. They were reading this kind of horrific sort of, like I said, fish meal, like ground up fish heads It's just disgusting dude

Starting point is 00:22:46 And by the way in that study the monkey that lived the longest was in the ad libitum group So it wasn't even like the calories it lived to 40 years It was diabetic and it was on insulin and it lived the freaking longest. It wasn't even on calorie restriction So the science is a shit show So when they tell you the science shows calorie restriction, X, Y, Z, you can tell them all that science. You can't even wipe your ass with it because it's, you know, it's worthless. You mentioned now earlier, you mentioned, would you say, Clark restriction has benefits at all outside, aside from fat? Only, only if

Starting point is 00:23:22 you're on the standard American diet and you're truly eating like really like maybe 60, 70, 80 grams of seed oils per day which many people are nowadays if you know three like one meal you could get 30, 40 grams you know so in that at that point eating less is beneficial but what's actually more beneficial is figuring out roughly what a person needs. Let's say they need two and a half thousand calories and then just eating meat. I'm not saying don't like eat a ton of carbs or whatever. I'm not saying go the other extreme. Just eat a little bit of carbs, a little bit of healthy fats, a little bit of protein, you know, and that person will do a hell of a lot better than going on diets and doing various other interventions.

Starting point is 00:24:07 What if they're carrying around extra fat? You know, they need to be a healthy person, they would need to lose some weight. What would be the best way to do that? So this is something else I write about in the book. So the problem when you gain weight is you gain a lot of that in polyunsaturated fats, right? And the fat is also a storage site for a lot of the toxins in the persistent organic pollutants that kind of make it up the food chain through the fatty tissue of animals. You know, BCPs and whatever else. So when you start losing a lot of weight quickly, you are liberating this stuff very quickly and that can overwhelm your detoxification capacities and the polyunsaturated fats will actually damage endothelial blood vessels, organs. So it's actually the ideal thing is if you're overweight is to take your damn time and actually do the detox protocols support your liver first.

Starting point is 00:24:59 I know it's not sexy. I know people hate that, you know, the slow way to do it, but that is actually the right way to do it because they've done research where people that have lost a lot of weight, they actually have a lower life expectancy, they have a higher all-cause mortality rate and there was actually Harvard alumni in one of those studies that they analyzed. So people that gained a lot of weight or lost a lot of weight or had big weight fluctuations, they did the worst. And the people that actually had the highest, the best outcomes is the people that gained a little bit of weight as they aged. Because again, this sequesters a lot of toxins in the environment that would otherwise attack your organs, your brain. And so it is again, like I said earlier, being fat, especially in this toxic

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Starting point is 00:28:34 on there please check it out okay let's get back to it so so I mean like people always talk about how Americans are obese and all that stuff. And it's, it gets into what's in our, what's actually the chemicals in our food. So do you think Americans are fatter than ever? I just personally, I think, yeah, there is a large population that is completely obese, but you know, I, and there's things like CrossFit. There's jiu-jitsu There's all this stuff that people are doing that just makes me see like how incredibly Shredded a large segment of society is so maybe there's just more people and that because there's more people We just see more overweight people especially, you know in the poorer sections where they're just eating this really bad fast food

Starting point is 00:29:24 What are your thoughts on all that? I mean, I think all of the conditions and obesity is classified as a condition. All of them are increasing and younger and younger people are being affected. So it's clearly the environment. It's clearly the food supply. And the, but the thing is the reason people nowadays are more overweight is probably because a lot of these toxins in the environment are actually like thyroid antagonists. And the polyunsaturated fats there also, they slow down the metabolism. That's why farmers love the corn and the soy, because it's the cheapest way to make fat animals and get the most weight per pound in terms of cash. So I think because we're reading so many of the seed oils and the omega-6s specifically,

Starting point is 00:30:10 that's probably the biggest reason why we are, where we are in all conditions, all diseases, including things you wouldn't even think about, like even depression and stuff like that, that's probably a big component of the seed oils being implicated there as well. So how do you get your tea up? You're telling me a carnivore diet which it said that red meat gets your tea up and no creatine all that stuff that's in red meat? So red meat is great but the problem

Starting point is 00:30:36 is if you just do like strict carnivore if you just eat meat the the problem is meat has certain things that are out of balance because the the animal is like 50% collagen and 50% muscle, roughly speaking. So if you don't add the collagenous tissue in, you are getting a lot of some inflammatory amino acids like methionine, cysteine and tryptophan. You're getting too much iron and you're getting too much phosphate relative to calcium. So it actually can leach calcium out of your bones if you don't know how to balance it. It can iron overload you, which a lot of men have that problem, which ages you like it increases oxidative stress. And then they've done studies in animals with methionine, cysteine and tryptophan where

Starting point is 00:31:24 if they restrict those they can increase lifespan like hugely. So a lot of the caloric restriction research that shows benefits could also be down to reducing those amino acids in the diet. So if you can reduce those amino acids in the diet, they have this anti thyroid sort of effect. They slow down the metabolism. You can reduce those or balance them with collagenous tissue. You're actually ameliorating a lot of the bad effects. But here's the thing.

Starting point is 00:31:53 If you, if you're only eating meat, you're stimulating gluconeogenesis to make glucose out of the meat. So you, first of all, you're wasting high quality protein and that process is driven by cortisol and cortisol is oppositional to tea. So you want to eat your carbs with it. And dude, I tell you, once I started eating more carbs, like a good amount of carbs, not only did like I start having like morning wood again, but my eyesight improved, my mood improved, dude, everything. Look, talking about nootropics, I love the nootropics, improving mental performance, all that good stuff.

Starting point is 00:32:28 I'm on 20 different things right now, and I love it, my brain's on fire, but the best nootropic man is glucose, because your brain is super hungry for glucose. So if you eat low carb, yeah, you will make glucose for your brain and your central nervous system and your red blood cells But a lot of you need like a couple hundred grams a day You know if you have to make that you better believe a lot of nice to have things like your libido your mood

Starting point is 00:32:55 higher cognitive functions Future planning all of these things will eventually get shut down and that's what they want man They want you to be in this fight-or- flight survival mode because then you can't think long term you can't sort of plan you're just stuck in survival mode they love that because that's how you're easy to control what are you know you we getting back to fasting briefly you mentioned autophagy and now were the benefits of that just overblown? I've heard that the for you to get to a point where autophagy had a real benefit you would have to fast for such a long period that it's almost impossible for most people

Starting point is 00:33:33 without like a real commitment you know like and some people have that kind of insanity that they can do it for days and days at a time don't. What would you say about that autophagy? Okay so good good question. This is one of the most common questions clients ask me. Like what about autophagy? That's literally the question. So you have actually... What is that? Oh, that's... So that is marketed as cellular... When you don't eat, the body starts to break down suboptimal parts of itself in the cells and it kind of you know repurposes them and You clean up house. So then when you refeed you are healthier and better. That's kind of the the marketing sort of

Starting point is 00:34:14 um, uh thing and in my book I I call it autophagy starve yourself to upregulate the thing that is caused by starving yourself because to upregulate the thing that is caused by starving yourself. Because the thing is, so autophagy, you don't even have to look hard to find this. So there's a couple of types of autophagy. You have non-selective bulk autophagy and you have selective autophagy. So the good one is where you target specific things in the cell that are not working well like mitochondria, lysosomes, whatever else, and then that actually has been

Starting point is 00:34:49 found to be triggered by fructose, certain carbohydrates, exercise. So you can trigger autophagy even while you're in a fed state. But here's the thing, the autophagy that they're sort of lauding is so amazing. That is what happens when you starve yourself. That is the bulk autophagy, which is indiscriminate. So everything gets broken down because the body is like, I don't care about rejuvenation, I care about immediate survival because truly the body doesn't know is it going to be alive?

Starting point is 00:35:18 Is it going to get another meal in the next two, three, five, six, ten days? So it does only things that are, you know, to keep your brain, your heart, your kidneys, the main sort of functions working. So that is called non-selective or bowel catheterophagy, which is in response to starvation and nutrient sort of deficiency. That's what happens. So that's what you get when you are starving yourself, man. It's a scam. Like I don't think I can sugarcoat it any other way, honestly. No, it's like me. Sorry, just really bringing it back to Atiya. Like Atiya was the face of this thing. I don't know if you know what I'm saying, but Dr. P. Atiya, he's been on all the podcasts that we listen to. He's been on Rogan, all these guys. And he was the face of this podcasting

Starting point is 00:36:03 app that was, I think it was created by the guy who did like a dig or one of those old apps that was popular, like when Reddit first came to be, I can't remember. Anyway, it's called Zeroes, yeah. And he was the face of this app. Like you go in there and you start fasting and like a little video from Peter Atiyah pops up. And when he abandoned fasting,

Starting point is 00:36:22 that to me was immediately like a wake-up call, like, oh shit, like maybe we should look at this because just the act of him stepping away from it meant so much to his reputation like a reputation cost to him that it had to have been a really like he knew for certain that it wasn't necessarily what he thought it was. So yeah I'm inclined to hear this for sure. Yeah man and look like I, the people listening are sophisticated and you have to understand if doctors are recommending something there is fuckery afoot almost in very because

Starting point is 00:36:53 And because a lot of well-meaning doctors, they're just you know yourself They're brainwashed by day like a decade almost of so it's very even the most he's well-meaning like I genuinely like the guy So it's very even the most he's well-meaning like I genuinely like the guy I but he and I know he's much more Credential than educated and smarter and more pretty and probably his dick is bigger than mine but that that doesn't take away from the fact that he he and many other people in the in the limelight right now are Just spouting straight up harmful stuff. Like people, I don't know, I don't want to name names, but there's people like talking, you gotta take like four or five grams of fish oil

Starting point is 00:37:31 every day. Dude, I'm telling you, the more I look into it, it's not even for sure that these essential fatty acids are even essential, like literally. Like that's how deep this could be going. You know, it's just crazy to me. I mean, this is just, it's, what you're telling me goes against everything I've been told lately. It's, I know screaming at the show.

Starting point is 00:37:58 What are you talking about? It's just so, it's so nuts. What I can, what I can offer you bro is if you want we can run some pretty cool lab tests where we can check your hormones, we can check your oxidative stress, stuff like that and I can tell you if what you've been doing so far, if there's any gaps in it and we can very easily with a few supplements, a couple of dietary changes, we can resolve those things, nip them in the bud before they become an actual problem so if you need and I guarantee you you won't like you won't

Starting point is 00:38:30 very few doctors even in the USA are at the level where we are in terms of this kind of discovering imbalances and not just treating the damn piece of paper the lab test but actually figuring out what the person needs to correct the thing not correct the marker to correct the thing, not correct the marker, but correct the thing inside them that is causing that. And what I've noticed is people that take a lot of omega threes, they have a lot of lipid peroxidation in the lab tests that we run, right? So this is when you're fighting cell membranes in your brain cells, heart, whatever, they're getting damaged by oxidative stress and you

Starting point is 00:39:04 can measure that in the urine. So I'm seeing on the lab tests they have low omega-3s and then high lipid, high-ish lipid peroxides and high-ish sort of moderate DNA damage and then the the lab reports or what a doctor would tell you is you need more omega-3s, your omega-3s are low. No, what's happening is the lipid peroxides are high because all the omega-3s are the first thing to get targeted when you're under stress. And man, very few people are out there, or I'm not, like I didn't invent this by any means, but very few people out there are talking about it and a lot of these folks in, like, they're big accounts, big influencers. I'm, like, if you read my

Starting point is 00:39:41 book, you have a few copies of my book, if you read my book you have a few copies of my book if you read the book you will see Almost everything we think we know about health We have to be open-minded to rethink and reevaluate from boosting nitric oxide a lot of my male clients are on Arginine citrulline beetroots to boost nitric oxide nitric oxide dude is Fucking pathological. It's a reactive oxygen species and a reactive nitrogen species, right? Low salt. I mean, that's obviously I'm sure you know that already that low salt. That's another scam. I mean, it just fiber in the diet.

Starting point is 00:40:16 It just goes on and on and on every almost everything like week or two. I'm like fuck this too. This too. So yeah, it's hard. I even I'm believable. What about Omega 3 from natural sources? I mean, would you recommend those like salmon and stuff or is it is it all? We don't need it.

Starting point is 00:40:33 So we got into the fish oil scam. That's what you're talking about right now. Yeah, that's what I thought. OK, yeah. So so I wouldn't go out of my way to like remove them. But I wouldn't go out of my way to like remove them, but I wouldn't go out of my way to add them. I have one client, he's got access to literally the best doctors in the USA. Like he's that level and his doctor got all the meat out of his diet. The guy used to hunt and all the meat out of his diet. He was only eating fish every day, like a different type of fish and taking the omega-3s and a bunch of stuff, doing the exercise, all that

Starting point is 00:41:09 stuff and then they found coronary artery calcification. He started working with me. I told him, dude, are you kidding me? Get all this fish out of your diet. I mean, if your doctor recommends it, you make your own choice, but I would get all the fish out of my diet. I would throw those omega-3s in the bin and I would go back to hunting or help someone hunt for you because the all the things your doctor told you probably is what caused you to be in this state right now. So but to answer your question, Johnny, like natural sources, you're going to get them. I wouldn't worry about them.

Starting point is 00:41:40 But like what I used to do, even like last year, I would like buy buy fish eggs like a hay crow and cod livers with the oil in cans and like four times a week I would open two of each and I would force feed my wife give some to my dog give some to my kid your wife and I go over she hated it and I did it when she was pregnant and dude I was like fuck I've been poisoning I've been poisoning my family now you get other nutrients with when it's a whole food, so it's not like terrible But I'm like fuck man. I've been poisoning my family For years with these omega adding extra omega-3s, you know so if my advice not medical advice This is financial advice if you have an omega-3 supplement throw

Starting point is 00:42:25 that shit in the bin and don't waste your money on it ever again all right I gotta play devil's advocate just a little bit because I've been working out and my joints started hurting and I went to the supplement store and I was like hey dude I you guys look like you guys lift a lot what are you guys gonna give me they straight up gave me fish oil they're like all omega threes and I took it yeah I don't that too. I don't know if it's placebo, but it kind of not hurting as much. XG, it worked and I'll tell you why it worked. Because it's very well known in scientific circles that Omega 3s and

Starting point is 00:42:56 Omega 6s are immunosuppressive. When you suppress the immune system, inflammation goes down. And curcumin, it's another thing that might tell you, take curcumin. So curcumin, it does have this actual anti-inflammatory effect but the problem is that's another thing. I was like, this is getting very big, let me investigate it so it has problems. But what I would do in your case is instead of the fish oil, which again it suppresses the immune system that's why you get a benefit but cortisol does the same thing in fact in the 70s they were using seed oils and certain like fish oils or whatever else

Starting point is 00:43:34 they were using that to give to people that got an organ transplant to suppress the immune system that's how effective they are and that's why they're associated with higher cancer in animal studies. So what I would have done in your case is I would have gotten from iHerb.com. I forgot the name of the brand, but if you type in willow bark extract, that's nature's aspirin in a more concentrated form. That's that is an actual anti-inflammatory and nobody's talking about willow bark extract. They're talking about curcumin, which does have a similar effect mechanistically as the willow bark, which the aspirin but it also apparently has some

Starting point is 00:44:11 other toxic effects which are kind of a little bit more deeper but i knew that's another thing i knew there was fuckery of food because curcumin is another thing that over the last years is being huge man so there you go another another thing you can add to the list to, to at least investigate. It's so crazy. I mean, like, it's so nuts that all this is like, it's like you get programmed. This you're trying to, you're trying to do right. You're trying to get away from our, you know, our, our, our poison food culture. And now even the healthy stuff seems not to be

Starting point is 00:44:45 doing helping you. Maybe I should just smoke crack and just and I'll lose weight and I'll have ton of energy. Yeah I mean I would do that ahead of a lot of the stuff that it's being freaking promoted out there bro. This crack sounds like fun. So here we go here this is something personal to me. My daughter is on the spectrum. She's autistic. She's getting better and better and better. She's still not talking. We're working on that. We got a lot of people helping us work on that. We're working on that. We got a lot of people helping us work on that. As I've said before on this show, on my other shows, my daughter, I've been told over and

Starting point is 00:45:31 over again that autistic children don't produce, what's it called, serotonin. And therefore- What's that again? They don't produce it? Yeah, yeah. That's what I've been told. I can't wait to hear that. This is a lie, uh, that they don't produce serotonin, which is

Starting point is 00:45:48 why she doesn't go to sleep. She, she hate, she just pulls all night ragers. Like I'm not even kidding when I tell you, like, it's like, I'm like, this is the same energy I got. And when I used to be at a coke party the way this kid It's a melatonin thing too though right are you talking about serotonin here because I know melatonin too. Oh, yeah, I that's it Okay, I messed up here alright I think they're supposed to be low in serotonin also, but I think melatonin they don't release it like the right times or something

Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah, so I got that wrong serotonin melatonin. What's the difference between those two so? Serotonin gets turned into it's the pathways to get turned into melatonin. Okay, so I'm not far off. So you know, you're not far, but in fact, this is something I looked into fairly recently and the thing is when they, in a lot of the research, when they say serotonin is quote unquote low, they're looking at a metabolite of serotonin called 5-H-I-I-A, 5-hydroxyindole acetic acid. And they're saying that's low, therefore serotonin is low. But what's more likely the case is that it's low because there's a buildup of serotonin and it's not being broken down.

Starting point is 00:46:59 So it could be certain enzymes like the MAO, certain genetic polymorphisms, could be co-factors missing like copper, riboflavin B2 and stuff like that. I actually have researchers that I respect have my understanding is that serotonin is actually high in autism and there was at least, I can send you the study, there was a study where I think they used a couple of drugs, but one of the drugs they use is called Cyproheptadine, which is a serotonin antagonist. And that actually helped to, there was an improvement in the kids in the study. But here's the thing, this Cyproheptadine is also, some people use

Starting point is 00:47:45 it, some doctors use it off label for insomnia, for psychosis, for a lot of things where actually serotonin is high. So if someone cannot sleep at night, it's not about melatonin, it's not about making melatonin or whatever else. It's actually, I would probably say that person has a lot of serotonin and I, the

Starting point is 00:48:03 more I look in, looked into it, the more I see a lot of my clients actually have a high serotonin issue. And that is, it's been found to be high in depression, not low. And it's causing a lot of anxiety type stuff, psychosis type stuff, and a slew of other horrific health problems. If you want to unpack that we can. Yeah, I do. Cause I would like to know what, what are your suggestions for that? So what I would personally, what I will do, I'm, this is not medical advice to you. Okay.

Starting point is 00:48:34 Because first of all, I believe cyberheptadiene, I think it's possible to get into USA it's not over the counter. I get mine actually, I I've experimented out without myself personally, because I think I was a high serotonin type in the past but what I will do is I would talk to my dog a good smart doctor and and talk about potentially trialing Cyproheptadine which is a ser it's an antihistamine that has a serotonin blocking effect and I

Starting point is 00:49:01 would do that and I would make sure that And I would do that and I would make sure that a lot of it actually, by the way, another side up, I found out is when I wrote my autism book, they were talking about copper toxicity, how that's such a huge issue. Copper overload turns out the guy who is still alive, a great guy, but the guy that kind of I learned that from his two mentors that he learned the most from they were both like involved in MK out your dude Oh my god giving administering LSD and stuff to the to the people So that's actually removed it from the new edition of the book the whole copper overload thing I don't actually think that's an issue I think a lot of people are actually low on copper what that does is you can't produce more the dopamine side of things,

Starting point is 00:49:46 the dopamine, adrenaline or adrenaline. And when dopamine is low, serotonin goes up. It's like cortisol and tea. They kind of see so up and down. So with a person like that, we wanna see if a serotonin antagonist actually helps them sleep, which it, dude, it will. Like I'm 99 million percent sure it would help

Starting point is 00:50:08 If that's the case, it's clearly a high serotonin issue Which is actually a big problem for a lot because remember a lot of moms are on SSRIs Remember that and 90% of the serotonin is made in the gut and autistic kids have a lot of gut problems So when the gut is disturbed that serotonin gets released from the gut. It can be absorbed into the body and it can wreak havoc because you need tiny amounts of serotonin. I mean this Cyproheptadine,

Starting point is 00:50:35 I get mine in 4 milligram tablets, dude. I break off a quarter, I take a milligram and that's enough to help you sleep like a baby for 11 hours. So you need a tiny amount of serotonin and the gut can produce a ton of it. So that's what I will do. If that's the case, then you want to you want to work on boosting dopamine, get the B vitamins

Starting point is 00:50:55 in to make sure that serotonin is being processed. That's a start. And by the way, remember I offered last year if you want to run lab tests, I have some, I've worked with some very complex autism cases. I got one kid, he's like seven now, still nonverbal, but he's when they started working with me, the parents in February, he's now actually becoming verbal. He's actually like he's in school now. So I worked with some very serious cases so I will move mountains

Starting point is 00:51:25 for you in terms of like lab testing advising helping helping you help your kids you know so just just saying that that would be great able anytime and I'll talk to you after the show well I think I have your number but I'll make sure I get it yeah yeah we'll go from there so what do you listen, so obviously I meant to say melatonin on serotonin. So sorry to everybody about that. Uh, daddy just got off a plane and I'm illiterate. So, um, so what do you think that we should, that I should give my daughter? Like, what, what do you think I should do to help her sleep?

Starting point is 00:52:00 Because sometimes she'll hit the sack and then just someday we call it the, the, the, the, the giggle monster. She gets the giggle monsters and she is up all night. And I'm not, I'm not lying. What does she giggle? Oh, she's a giggler. Oh, please don't tell me this is a sign of even border stuff, but yeah, she, do we know when she's, when she's getting super giggly that she's going to go on and she's either she's going to go on a, she's either,

Starting point is 00:52:26 she's ready to go all night. So have you done any candida and neurotransmitter testing, stuff like that, stool testing, have you done any of that stuff? No, no. So dude, okay, so listen, we have to do a battery of tests. It will be the best couple of grand you will spend. So just as an example with this non-verbal six, seven year old kid I was talking about, he is a giggler as well. We did neurotransmitters, it's insane, like a bunch of stuff high, a

Starting point is 00:52:55 bunch of stuff low, like so things like glutamate stuff like that, but what I found is first of all I don't use melatonin anymore for any purpose with anybody because it's related to the serotonin metabolism which is not good okay so I actually took that out of the book as well by the way old old melatonin related info I just like don't even don't even like tell people about it anymore what we do is we use several different usually amino acids minerals very very basic things that the body requires that can be very helpful, very therapeutic. So glycine, that's inhibitory. Theanine, that's also kind of calming and relaxing.

Starting point is 00:53:34 GABA, that's another calming and relaxing. So these, and taurine. So these four, some combination of them is what we use with clients to to if the child is very hyperactive during the day It can help to stabilize them if they're if they're doing the gig thing at night It can help them sleep actually with glycine is so effective for one of my clients that he said I cannot give my my son Glycine during the day because he gets like like super sleepy But I told him well great that you have that because for some kids don't respond at all to anything you know so after then think even harder so glycine during the day it just it's not super sedating uh gaba can be more sedating for

Starting point is 00:54:17 sleep theanine during the day is calming so if someone like I'm more ADHD tendency that really calms me down during the day and then taurine is a Like a very versatile morning night. So I would try combination of those four But if you're not doing basic supplementation like B vitamins If you've not done a stool test because candida can be high in a lot of kids and that can actually Be a reason why they're giggly So if you haven't done urine testing, stool testing to see what pathogens, if any are there, usually there are a number. Um, so I can, I can do, I can guide you through all of this. If again, it's, I'm not pushing,

Starting point is 00:54:56 but like I said, any amount of time that you require, any, any lab tests, any interpretation, you can absolutely count on me, dude. Genuinely, I want to do it. I would love to help. Well, I appreciate that. And I'll make sure when we're done, I get your number. We can discuss it. Not to get too far into the autism thing.

Starting point is 00:55:18 What do you think causes some kids to not talk? That one I've been kind of researching on and off since about 2020 when I published the autism book. I honestly am not sure. I think there's sort of critical brain stages that are required for all the things that the nervous system does, right? And at a certain point, if certain nutrients are missing or there are certain stressors or certain bacterial toxins or toxins from the environment, they can disrupt that stage. So it's obviously a very complex thing, but I think that is probably a big reason why some kids have delays is just not the thing is

Starting point is 00:56:07 Kids don't need a lot of food and It's very hard to get the food into them So unless you're like truly get going out of your way to get the most nutrient-dense diet and adding supplements on top I think a lot of kids out there. It's they're not showing deficits, but they're definitely not They're not showing deficits, but they're definitely not in their optimal, if you know what I mean. And it's just becoming more and more pronounced because, you know, there's more vaccines, more toxins, more stress, more EMS. So you have to, dude, I've been giving my daughter this gut cleansing herbal mix since maybe she was like eight six or eight months and I'm giving her certain fat soluble vitamins now to kind of protect her from polyunsaturated fats to help with bone development so you got to start early and you have to be really stay on top of things and you know if you if you if you do like

Starting point is 00:57:00 co-parenting stuff like that then you have to help the other parent make sure the stuff is getting sent to them make sure they know what to what to give them when and when you see the kids make sure I have to buy a lot of things that are topical and droppers so I just tell my kid my daughter open your mouth squirt some iodine open your mouth some some whatever zinc and I'm constantly staying on top of it and every day I'm thinking okay she's gonna be in school they might eat some crap let me give her something to support the detox system if you don't make this a habit and get a little bit more sophisticated and not you but in general person right you don't

Starting point is 00:57:37 become a more sophisticated person in terms of looking after your health other than just buying groceries and making meals, you are gonna succumb to the modern world and this is what I teach my clients in my health and longevity program. In six to twelve months that you work with me, you learn everything from diet, detoxing, gut health, optimizing sleep, every single thing you need and then you can do that with your partner, with your kids, so you then can teach others around you know this is it so and this is how we're gonna change things man well I appreciate that I'm excited to talk to you and I would love to get you on the phone with with Dana too she's really good at understanding everything so yeah I can tell you what

Starting point is 00:58:24 one thing that would be awesome because I know your kids are probably like five, six now, right? They're four and a half. Okay. Okay. So this is a test where it's a food sensitivity test, but it's not like your run of the mill test where they look for IgG antibodies. They take the blood. So you get the kids shipped to the person's address. They go to a clinic, they get some blood and then that gets sent to the clinic. And then they take the blood and they expose all the different foods and various chemicals in the found in the food supply. And then they measure the immune response to the food.

Starting point is 00:58:57 And we do this with my my adult clients as well. So, you know, very quickly, which foods are like red and yellow. So super inflammatory for you and Everybody has a couple that are red. I've seen and a few yellows So if you do that and immediately remove those yellows and reds That alone is going to lower so much inflammation and a lot of by the way another just to go back to that Nonverbal stuff. I believe a lot of the stuff in terms of sort of non-verbal stuff. I believe a lot of the stuff in terms of sort of developmental deficits and whatever it has to do with this undercurrent of chronic inflammation. So this kind of test that

Starting point is 00:59:31 we do this was a game changer for a lot of clients man because you are immediately lowering inflammation to as much as it can be lowered at least from food because remember that a lot of these reds they're red because you're eating them every day. So it's like a double whammy. The things that are most inflammatory are staples. Like I had one client who was on the corn every day. Another client loved chicken and she was eating chicken every day. So that alone, just that one test is a game changer. But we can, like I said, stew, oxidative stress, vitamins, minerals, all that stuff. Like for 12, 13, 14 hundred dollars, we could get so much data that,

Starting point is 01:00:10 you know, in a year's time, having tweaked all the little things that we need to tweak, that child's life trajectory or human, any human really, is just you've gone from, you know, 60, 70% of their potential in this toxic world to potentially 80, 90 plus, as long as you teach them how to maintain this trajectory, basically, as they grow up, really. I'm excited to talk to you off camera about all that stuff. So, yeah, I mean, I think it's important. So let's get into this. I have a good friend of mine. He's a jujitsu black belt.

Starting point is 01:00:46 He is constantly begging me to get into an ice bath and do a flat earth or two. Yeah. Well, yeah, no, no, he's actually hates flat earthers. He actually hates flat earthers. No, no, this isn't Eddie Bravo. This is a black belt under Eddie Bravo though. A good friend of mine. I've known him for probably 30 years almost now.

Starting point is 01:01:09 He he constantly wants me to a ice bath. What is your thoughts on ice ice bath? I would I would tell him to slap him. But then now that he's a black belt, I'd say, yeah, yeah, polite, polite, polite, decline. So this is a very good question and I want to tell you guys out there unless you're an athlete competitive athlete or you have a lot of like aspirations at an amateur level there's absolutely no need to do ice baths because the reason athletes like MMA

Starting point is 01:01:42 fighters and whatever do it there you could you know you could say that there's there's rationale they're getting in the ice bath to lower inflammation but remember XG that things lowering inflammation by suppressing the immune system is suboptimal so stress i.e activating the sympathetic nervous system or the fight or flight nervous system right i.e. activating the sympathetic nervous system or the fight or flight nervous system, right? Stress will lower, will suppress the immune system. So when you dunk yourself in the ice bath, first thing that rises is your adrenaline, noradrenaline, you know, norepinephrine, epinephrine, and then cortisol soon after. So that, the stress of that downregulates the immune system so you have less inflammation. But, so again, if you're an athlete, you got to train twice a day, whatever else.

Starting point is 01:02:27 Sure, you're taking a hit, but potentially maybe for a big paycheck to entertain all of us. So there's, you know, the greater good there. But if you're just a regular Joe, especially if you're like 40 plus. Like, why would you want to do anything that spikes your cortisol and like, yeah, OK, it wakes you up in the morning, but you're being woken up by fucking stress hormones and cortisol and adrenaline. So what I would do is I will tell you, if you want to lower inflammation, what I told to XG, you know, get some willow bark extract, right, because it's more powerful than just willow bark. Take two to four of those. And that's like, again, because it's more powerful than just willow bark. Take two to four of those.

Starting point is 01:03:06 And that's like, again, like nature's aspirin. And that actually, like you feel less pain, you feel less inflamed. That is how you do it. That's how people have been doing it for like thousands of years. This ice bath stuff is again, another another fat that is algorithm, I believe, algorithmically being sort of bubbled up to the surface because the algorithm maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist here the algorithm is like oh harmful let's push that up oh degenerate the degenerate

Starting point is 01:03:37 whatever push it up oh you know sex stuff to frustrate young men to make them hate their body. Oh, women, oh, make them want to eat less, make them feel fat. You know, bubble that up. So this is just another one of those things that again, and we get a short term benefit of lowered inflammation. You have more energy because of the stress hormones. And then we conflate that as a beneficial intervention.

Starting point is 01:04:05 And this is where the insidiousness of these things lies. You do get some benefit. You know, like the Wim Hof breathing, bro. That's another thing that is actually harmful because it raises your adrenaline and that adrenaline suppresses your immune system. So when they did the study and they injected the guys with the endotoxin, they didn't get the fever and the sort of the sickness behavior

Starting point is 01:04:28 because they couldn't master up the immune response because the stress hormones had suppressed the immune system. But you know what? Over a long enough timeline, that is how cancer develops. So great way to feed the cancer industry in a very sort of subtle way while people are still young. Let it start there. You know, weaken them there.

Starting point is 01:04:47 And then as the time comes, we can monetize those fuckers. Wow, dude. Yeah. So so where do we go to find what you believe is the correct way to eat and live? How to actually live longer.com. And podcast player, how to actually live longer or look for my name. I have another podcast connecting minds. There's more interviews and stuff. Um, yeah, man, like it's this, like, I, I know, I know that these kinds of

Starting point is 01:05:21 episodes probably don't do the best in terms of viewership, but it's sort of frustrating because this is one of the most important topics that you have ever covered. I'm not because I'm here, whatever the information itself, no ego here, right? It's because a lot of us out there, myself included, were duped. I was doing these things as well and it turned out that it turns out that we're just harming ourselves in a different way it's like switching one poison for another poison so it's yeah it's important man we have to become educated the way you know you know like back in the day guys you buy a car you'd learn how to like fix the car if it broke down and stuff or your bike we need to be like that with our, you know, like back in the day, guys, you buy a car, you'd learn how to like fix the car if it broke down and stuff or your bike.

Starting point is 01:06:06 We need to be like that with our bodies, you know, because this is the most important vehicle we have. If we don't learn how to fix this and we spend our time on other things that are lower priority, we're invariably going to like be caught in somebody's net out there. There's a lot of nets that are gonna catch us you know so yeah what about what about fitness training cardio versus weight training could you talk briefly about that is there are there any major misconceptions about the benefits of yeah with weight oh my god and like I want clients she told me like a couple of weeks ago a couple of months ago maybe it's like so now the next

Starting point is 01:06:45 thing I want to do is I want to raise my Vl2 max and then she started continuing and I'm like stop why? She's like that's a good question and Peter Atiyah talks about zone 2 and Vl2 max like Vl2 max is basically a measure of how much stress a person has put themselves to endure and now they're adapted to a higher level of stress. So because my book is on longevity I want to help people resolve their health problems and optimize their longevity. I absolutely do not recommend any kind of endurance exercise because I can even give you like not just Animal research but also some human research that shows that it ages the cardiovascular system right it can contribute to the calcification

Starting point is 01:07:35 It's a degenerative activity right so can I can I ask but it does correlate in studies with longevity right Can I ask, but it does correlate in studies with longevity, right? But are you are you suggesting that it's more genetic people? They're just genetically have higher VO2 maxes are going to live longer. So it's it's it's another difficult topic because a lot of the research is the kind of. I don't think the research is truly painting the full picture. It's like we look in a tiny little part of the picture, right? The fact is so here's the way I kind of describe it to clients sometimes. If you're naturally strong, great. If you're naturally fit, naturally

Starting point is 01:08:13 lean or you know you have a naturally high VO2 max, that's great. But if you have let's say like a bodybuilder or endurance athlete or some like someone that becomes super lean for a competition or very strong because they lifted a lot of weight, if you had to put yourself through a lot of stress to get to that VL2 max or level of leanness or level of strength, that means you endured a lot of stress. And if you stop and then over the next, let's say, two to to twelve months if you kind of regressed to a baseline that was way lower so you lost a lot of those gains it means that to maintain that vl2 max strength leanness

Starting point is 01:08:54 whatever else you are enduring a lot of stress and that inherited that stress is what actually ages us because you will see if you look in the research just injecting animals with cortisol reproduces starts to create this aging sort of phenotype people with lower cortisol level look younger they're evaluated as younger twin studies where the lower the younger twin looked the more likely that the older-looking twin would die sooner and the bigger the age gap the sort of the more likely that person would die so this is this is my point so if you are not pushing yourself too much too too often you can do any kind of exercise

Starting point is 01:09:36 right anything but if you're doing it to reach a certain level and it takes you know let's say six hours of training a week to maintain those gains. That's a muscle mass or again, endurance, fitness level to run a marathon and whatever, two and a half hours. If it takes like multiple hours per week to maintain it, you are just. You know, you're like adding, adding stress to your system, which is actually not going to be adding to your longevity. I hope that kind of makes sense. So would you say David Goggins isn't going to live too long? No and I feel sorry for guys like that. I really do man. I saw some some show there was one um

Starting point is 01:10:17 scanned I think he was Scandinavian triathlete and he was training for the Olympics in the summer and he was like like he either had a world record if he was going to break a world record he was training for the Olympics in the summer and he was like like he either had a world record If he was gonna break a world record He was training twice a day doing the ice bath and then I looked at the guy and then when they told me he was 27 I was like holy mother of God this guy looked like 45 So this is what these guys are doing there first they're aging themselves internally But eventually it will manifest externally and with a lot of these guys like the guy the guy Jim Fix that popularized running He died at the age of like 52 man, and then they say oh he had a heart issue

Starting point is 01:10:51 No, dude, he was running pounding the pavement every day that destroys your health now to to make sure people don't think like a malaysia slob Uh, I like tennis paddle. I used to do Thai boxing, so you know lifting weights. The point is again how much stress are you putting on your system? If it takes you like days to recover after a session, you're going too hard, you know. That's all I'm saying, don't go too hard. But what I do is when I go hard, like I went to this paddle thing which like tennis, like racquetball pickleball is that it's called paddle it's big in portugal but I went for a lesson with like a

Starting point is 01:11:32 very good coach last week and I was like four days I was dying dude so I'm like I took that hit but at the same time I was taking like 20 supplements a day and today I'm super recovered so the point is if you're gonna put yourself through that stress of whatever conditioning, exercise whatever, you gotta meet yourself where you're at especially the older you are. So like I take a bunch of stuff that lowers my cortisol, like vitamins that lower inflammation, all of that stuff constantly. Protein, everything is dialed in dude. So that's all I'm saying is if you're gonna push yourself Don't just push yourself in the gym, but make sure all your ducks are in the road nutrition rest

Starting point is 01:12:13 Sleep all that good stuff. That's all I'm saying You gotta don't be super one-dimensional like a lot of guys like just getting pumped then like my barber I'm sorry don't throw my barber under the bus, but the guys like 10 years younger than me He looks my age because like he always had these big muscles, but like he's already like he's in his 20s. He's already wrinkled because he's pushing himself so hard to to look huge and jacked and shredded, but he's not meeting the stress where it's at nutritionally. And I'm always like telling him, you got to do more, you got to do more. But, you know, it can't you can bring a horse to water but you can't you know make him drink. So there's been this a lot of content made about how Gen Z is looking so much older. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:55 They're just like they're showing pictures of these girls that are like 22, 23 and they're asking like plastic surgeons, like what age they are. And they're, they're putting them at 38, 39, 40. Do you, I know this is like out of nowhere, but do you have any thoughts on like why generation Z is aging so much quicker than everybody before them? Well, it's again, this sort of generational warfare where our parents were weakened. So we were initial with our whole start in life. We were weak, weaker to begin with. Like I have my neighbor below me, this French dude, he's 75. When they moved in under us,

Starting point is 01:13:40 he painted their house inside,, their apartment inside and out. And then he proceeded to live in there after he painted a dude. He had the windows open during the day, but he lived in the house he painted. And then his wife, he's like, who's maybe closer to 80. She came in there like live and I and I was going up and down the corridor. And just to smell there, I was like dry heaving and like I was I would grab my daughter like a football that run up the stairs to make sure she's not exposed to that for more than a few seconds and these guys just living there and then they're getting up in the morning they're on their bikes in their 70s and okay the ladies like very wrinkled up and stuff but the point is that that older, they're resilient as hell because they

Starting point is 01:14:25 lived, they ate more real food, more nutritional density, less toxins, less MSO. These younger kids now, I really feel sorry for them. Why do you think I'm so passionate about helping you with your kids and like with my kid, her diet, because unless we truly go out of our way to protect them and to teach them how to survive and thrive in the in the world they're just gonna be like all these other people and like they're there these kids being born now in at least in the States their life expectancy is probably gonna be lower

Starting point is 01:15:00 than their parents now man and it's all got to do with us not adapting to the environment sufficiently. That's why I do the work I do. Where do you fall in sunlight? I know there are some people who say that you should be exposed to the sun as much as possible and they go out and stare at the sun. And there are others who say that you should never go out without sunscreen. Where do you fall in that? So I fall more in the latter category.

Starting point is 01:15:23 But here's the big problem that a lot of people don't actually fully grasp. So because most of us have a lot of polyunsaturated fats in our body that includes in our skin and our eyes and everything, if you go out in the sun, the UV light hitting your skin is going to, you know, peroxidize damage those polyunsaturated fats. So while you are cleaning up your diet, getting them out of your system, you really have to be careful not to burn in the sun because these polyunsaturated fats, they go rancid even in the fridge in low temperatures. So anytime they're exposed to oxygen, UV light, heat, they can peroxidize and cause chain reactions of damage. Hence why I think a lot of skin cancer

Starting point is 01:16:11 nowadays is not just the stuff we're putting on our skin, but our skin is more liable to damage from the sun. So I would absolutely like try to get two three hours of daylight a day and some of that in the sun but make sure that you're working on getting the polyunsaturated fats out of your body. That process takes like hundreds of days like multiple years. So it's a lifestyle to survive and thrive in the modern world you gotta say okay no more poofas that for me that includes nuts and seeds I don't need any nuts and seeds almost because they are also polyunsaturated so I'm trying to minimize them as much as possible so that would be my tip and actually interestingly enough vitamin E would be a very good sunscreen if someone is out in the Sun that'll probably be the best

Starting point is 01:17:02 sunscreen like pop open a capsule and smear it on yourself. I think that would be in the meantime, you know, while you still have a lot of these polyunsaturated fats, just little little tip there. Now, do you recommend for people with family history of heart disease that they avoid saturated fats as well? I would double down on the saturated fats. It's actually the, I have a podcast episode, it's actually the omega-6 linoleic acid that is much more, if you look at the kind of the more basic research, not this epidemiology that they throw at people, you know. It's actually that's more implicated in this atherosclerotic processes.

Starting point is 01:17:43 And what's interesting is that when they correlate animal fat saturated, they say it's saturated fat, but if you're looking at like a chicken, a pig, and even like a lot of ruminants that eat a lot of grains, they will have a lot of omega-6s. Like a lard is like 20 percent omega-6s. So they're like, oh, animal fat's bad for you. It's because the animals are eating freaking corn and soy. If they were properly pastured, I don't think the research could find those correlations like it has. Don't the more grass fed animals though have a different profile? Aren't they more omega 3 heavy than those raised on corn? They say they have more omega-3, but like omega-3s are generally very low.

Starting point is 01:18:30 So I wouldn't worry about, at least from like eating beef, I wouldn't worry about getting too many omega-3s. Are you optimistic? I'm sorry, go ahead. No, please. Are you optimistic about any of the longevity supplements that we hear about, like rapamycin and some of the more mainstream ones that we've heard about in the past? I know there's that big dog study that they're waiting on with rapamycin. Do you have any optimism about any of that stuff? So little teaser for the next

Starting point is 01:18:57 volume of my book. I'm actually very optimistic about aspirin, bro. I'm sorry aspirin? Aspirin could be one of the best longevity supplements, quote unquote. That's why I have willow bark extract. That's why I mentioned it multiple times already. That's why I have it in my protocol daily. I actually take aspirin as well. Some days, a lot of the days, you know, like a baby size aspirin or no. Well, there's no no like like I days, some days I take monster doses.

Starting point is 01:19:26 Like you would, your eyes would bleed if you hurt, if you saw me taking three, four grams of no, that's another misconception that aspirin makes you bleed. It's probably the excipients. So I get my aspirin from Spain in cornstarch and cellulose base. Right. Oh, like the binders? It could be more the titanium dioxide and all this other nonsense causing more problems. There's actually research that can protect from brain bleeding and stuff like that.

Starting point is 01:19:56 The reason they're smearing aspirin is because they have newer drugs that they make more money off by selling to thin the blood and stuff like that. But dude, willow bark has been known and used for like, I don't know, 4000 years plus. This is because you know, they do some of this, a lot of research in like nematodes and like little tiny organisms and stuff. Willow bark and aspirin, that's one of the most promising in terms of like life extension I forgot was it in the hundreds of percents but certain certain over-the-counter supplements not as fancy as rapamycin and whatever else they actually in that more basic research they're actually a much more promising than these I don't know about these other ones, but like things

Starting point is 01:20:45 like metformin that's scam. That's, I used to take it. I used to take it. Stupid, very stupid. Would never again. Growth hormone, another scam. The guy's paying thousands every month like Joe Rogan on growth hormone. It's actually carcinogenic in certain contexts. What's the other one that the doctor, you shouldn't take HGH, is that what you're telling me? Dude, I would never take... How about testosterone? Don't take that either. Here's the thing, I have a simple over-the-counter strategy I teach my male clients on how to

Starting point is 01:21:16 block aromatization of things into estrogen, like testosterone and stuff, how to boost the androgenic pathway and it works super well and it's cheaper, you don't have to inject yourself and the problem with testosterone is because you're injecting so much, there's a high potential for that testosterone to aromatize into estrogen. So if you don't look after the blocking the aromatization into estrogen, which a lot of doctors they're just injecting you and that's it. This is actually where a lot of the the negative stuff with testosterone is

Starting point is 01:21:48 coming from when guys have a very high testosterone and that turns into estrogen it's the estrogen that will make you like aggressive horrible to be around with horrible mood and a lot of the bodybuilding steroids they're actually from an estrogenic base so they, they might have an androgenic sort of affinity for the androgen receptor and stuff, but they have, because they're like from an estrogenic base, they're actually causing a lot of estrogenic type symptoms. So a lot of, I don't know if you've heard like bodybuilders talk about the, the weird sexual fantasies they have.

Starting point is 01:22:19 They want to bang like Centaur women and whatever else. So, but the way we do it over-the-counter cheap safe and it doesn't down regulate doesn't shrink your testicles doesn't down regulate your function you can still have kids later if you want you know keep win yourself off it in a couple of months and it works a charm bro so I have bad hips you know hips. I think I did some damage to him during my party in days. Um, You know, it's like I can't stretch the way I want to you know, it's like hard for jiu-jitsu What do you think's good for hips and joints like that?

Starting point is 01:22:56 So but is it painful when you do that or is it just you feel like your muscles? I feel like my hinges are rusty Well, what I would do, what I would do is let's just, let me order some labs, lab tests to your home. You can conveniently like pee in a cup, poop in a thing. Super easy. Do a prick your finger, drop some blood on some paper. And we can find all of the most glaring imbalances. And by the way, every single every single person has some. I'm going to set the high score. I have to be. I know I'm going to. No, dude, it's kind of crazy,

Starting point is 01:23:36 but it's you. It's usually sometimes people that you would think they got everything dialed and they're just doing something crazy like you know taking 10 grams of fish oil or something like that you know every day and that just compobulates a lot of things so I wouldn't like you look to me it's when I look at a person's face that's a window into their health right and you actually for someone that's your age you actually like I believe because I've done you know various substances and this goes back to the serotonin sort of discussion is I believe some of these substances are straight up therapeutic. That is why they make the Medego LSD being one of them because they found that in smaller doses LSD is an antagonist of sorts to serotonin and

Starting point is 01:24:28 That has a lot of so I think people yes, they like the buzz I think the reason the micro dosing thing started getting a lot of traction over the last few years is because people are straight up getting therapeutic effects out of these micro doses of LSD because when the LSD binds to the serotonin receptors, I don't know if you've ever tried it, but if you take LSD three days in a row, on the third day, you don't feel anything at all, because you saturate your receptors. So it has a very sort of long time that it spends there. During that time, serotonin can do the horrible things it will do. So this is super super therapeutic. Okay some of the other ones they can be a little bit nastier in the long term but I forgot where I was going with this. What do you think about Silla Saibin?

Starting point is 01:25:19 Is that in the same arena? I'm not I'm not I'm just looking into it briefly I'm not sure if it's a I know it's a lot of those things including LSD they interact with serotonin receptors For example, the 5-ht2a That's the one that you get kind of the more hallucinogenic things So the thing about LSD for whatever reason at smaller doses it it binds but doesn't exert action Whereas it higher doses actually that's what causes the hallucinations. So with psilocybin and mushrooms and various other tryptamines I'm not quite sure are they just having the effect and that's why you're getting the... but what I've

Starting point is 01:25:59 from my research and this goes back to what I talked about about Cyperheptadine, which is a serotonin antagonist at the receptor level. What I found is if you go on Wikipedia, if you look at drugs that block serotonin receptors, dude some of these things, they weren't marketed due to safety concerns, but they're being researched to treat the most aggressive and common type of brain cancer, glioblastoma. That's a certain serotonin antagonist. And then if you look at things that stimulate dopamine, dopamine agonist, these things are used to treat sexual dysfunction in people. So it seems like anything that blocks serotonin has positive effects.

Starting point is 01:26:41 Again, opposite to what we're being told, serotonin happy chemical dopamine will make you addicted and psychotic and things that stimulate dopamine are therapeutic and whereas things that stimulate the serotonin receptors are the hallucinogenic things and very dangerous sort of designer drugs so that's another clue that it's almost opposite land out there man they're saying that dopamine high dopamine causes schizophrenia another lie ADHD is that you you know have high dope no sorry ADHD is that you have low low dopamine but then they give you a fucking amphetamine to treat that way you can just raise your dopamine with amino acids and like basic minerals and vitamins, you know

Starting point is 01:27:26 But anyway, that's a that's a whole rabbit hole. I'm not sure if we have time to discuss This has been enlightening and crazy and it's these are the episodes I love I want to go down this hole and Check it out. I'm gonna get some of that willow bark too. I mean, that sounds like something I need to have. Uh, I'm just, we'll see. It's kind of crazy, man. Uh, again, what is the website they can go to and do deep dives on if they want to learn more about this, how to actually live longer.com.

Starting point is 01:28:01 Okay. You can get in there. I offer a free metabolic function assessment session with me so we can get together, do a little survey of your kind of your areas, you know, sign symptoms. You can sit down together, discuss your health issues, health goals. I can explain how I can help you achieve your health goals, resolve your health issues, we can make a winning plan for you. And, you know, it's, dude, I'm super passionate about stuff. I love, I just love, one of the best feelings is like clients telling me, and one client, he works in the film industry.

Starting point is 01:28:37 He was just on a movie gig and he said, dude, I was like, I saved this movie. He told me like, I saved this movie he told me like I saved this movie I who is a cucumber thank you for the help and I'm like dude you just made my ear you know so this is what I love to do so if anybody needs help out there man including you guys if you want any lab work done ordered I'm not trying to like toot my own horn but like the stuff I do is pretty next level. So I would love to help you, you know, find the things that in 2030 or even sooner could

Starting point is 01:29:12 become a problem. Let's catch them now. Let's address them simply and easily. And let's get on with our lives, kicking ass. I'm in dude. I love it. Christian, thank you so much for coming on. This has been great. I hope you guys all enjoyed it. Let's break down this episode. All right. What'd you guys think?

Starting point is 01:29:31 Like Johnny said, I'm confused. I don't know what to think, what to do. It's kind of, it's kind of everything, you know, no, you know, I mentioned the fasting thing. Like I have been doubting the fasting thing since the guy that got me into it, Peter Tia, a couple of years ago, Dr. Peter Tia. He's one of maybe the loudest voice in this longevity, like health space,

Starting point is 01:29:53 you know, kind of modern medicine, like preventative medicine, you know, not getting sick, kind of like a new style of medicine. He calls it medicine 3.0, I think. And he was the face of fasting, intermittent fasting, IF, for years. And then he just completely, because he realized, like Christian said, he realized that he was losing lean muscle mass while doing it, like disproportionately, more than you would expect to from

Starting point is 01:30:25 that kind of calorie deficit. And that's kind of the worst thing you could the worst outcome of any kind of diet, you know, is where you lose way too much lean mass and not enough fat. And he you know, he realized that, or he says anyway, that most of the benefits of fasting are actually just from the caloric deficit, which you do that without fasting so that's one of the bad things that's one of the bad things for Mozambique they said you're losing a lot but a lot of that is muscle but you're losing a lot of muscle with that but it's the worst thing you could do it that's not that's not progressing when

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Starting point is 01:31:50 Weird. I don't remember saying that part. Visit DejaDen.com slash care and get insurance that's really big on care. Did I mention that we care? Yeah, it's kind of crazy, dude. Are you done fasting Sam? Are you done with the maybe the I don't know. We were gonna start up a new things.

Starting point is 01:32:12 I like I like I've said this before. I like I like I like a combination. You know, the thing that fasting stops me from doing is snacking. And I think that's why I get murked all the time. I'm just like eating, like I'm bored. So I just eat to feel something. And like the fasting forces me not to do that. So I, I've always, and I've felt my soul that there's this kind of

Starting point is 01:32:37 combination, like that's why I like counting calories, but even I've had people say that's crazy too. That like, that's just ridiculous shit too. But it just seems like it forces me to work within a structure. Well, that's science. I mean, I think that's a pretty well, well documented effect. The idea that just the act of measuring calories, counting them, you end up, what, what, what, there's a saying like what is, what is what is... shit. What is counted is managed. That's not the exact quote, but that's the effect of the quote, I guess. And I'm pretty sure that's well documented. The idea that when you start monitoring your intake, whether it's calories or

Starting point is 01:33:18 other, you know, like nutrients, you know, you're going to have better outcomes because, You know, you're gonna have better outcomes because I think because passively you kind of avoid overdoing it whether you realize it or not. I know I know it's true for me especially but dude I mean I've I mean I don't do you guys like I don't intermittent fasting what we've been doing like 16 8 it's I don't miss breakfast I never have been a breakfast guy I usually don't have an appetite for it. So it's not, but now I, I'm, I'm hearing people say now you should be eating X amount of protein within half hour, an hour of waking up.

Starting point is 01:33:53 If you don't want to be hungry throughout the day, you should be having protein like right away, waking up and slamming protein. And I'm like, Oh, really? Is that why I'm hungry all the time? Motherfucker. It's so crazy to me, dude, who knows what's right? Who knows what's wrong? It's just, ugh, it's so confusing. And to top it off now, all my favorite people are going to die young. He literally saying like Rogan's done, Goggins is done. He's like, all these people he has love, they're going to they're not going to make it to seven.

Starting point is 01:34:20 Like, oh, man, I don't know, man. Rogan seems to just get it. I don Oh man. I don't know, man. Rogan seems to just get it. I don't, I just, I don't know, man. It's he's an interesting guy. I mean, if we'd have more time, I would have asked him about light because there's something to be said for being metabolically healthy too. And Rogan is clearly like, the guy's not going to be like pre-diabetic. I mean, he's, you know, he's look at him. So I I don't know it's I It's a yeah

Starting point is 01:34:47 They're just so many factors in health and in and mental health and physical health that have to be managed Yeah, so and then some things that are good for one factor are really bad for another factor in health. So it's That's you know, they find you know happens all the time. They find a medicine that oh wow, it cures this thing But then you find out oh shit No, actually it's it's shortening your, they find, you know, it happens all the time. They find a medicine that, oh, wow. It cures this thing. But then you find out, oh shit. No, actually it's, it's shortening your life because it gives you cancer. Whatever. So shit, man. I got it.

Starting point is 01:35:12 We're crazy, dude. Episode 800. We're like episode, what? A hundred something. We still don't know what the fuck to eat. Good point, dude. Good point. I mean, how deep are we?

Starting point is 01:35:24 It's just so crazy. I mean, I think we know we have a pretty good idea that hey, snickers and all that process, that's not good for us. That's not good. Don't slam. I wish we had gotten into like sugar though. Like what you think about? Well, you know what I wanted to bring up to him and I just never found the right point

Starting point is 01:35:37 in the Bible talks about fasting. Yeah. Yeah. There are a lot of things like that. I mean, fasting used to be really common apparently. Breakfast wasn't popular for a lot of human history. They thought, especially like early Christians thought it was like gluttonous to have breakfast. So like Catholics, I think.

Starting point is 01:36:00 So yeah, I mean, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I, I, yeah. I mean, that's also a completely different life lifestyle. Isn't it? What they were eating back then and how lived. I mean, these were once we got into the day, like those foods, it just became chaos to got past raising your food and eating it and he got out of that. Or just knowing the person that raised your food and eating it.

Starting point is 01:36:26 It just got really crazy. Yeah. One thing I miss about the country is like, Hey dude, guy, I got it. You know, we gave a guy a pig. He knows where he got it from. You know what I mean? Like growing up, like it's like people, it was funny. Like in small towns, everybody's got a guy for something, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 01:36:46 I think Post Malone just did a song called I Got A Guy For That or whatever and that's what it's like living in a small town. Everybody's got like the car guy, like where you had the guy down the street who could fix your car. If you had a car, you could change your oil filter, whatever. Most people knew how to change their own oil filters where I'm from but you could change your oil filter you had a guy for for cows you know like hey if we want to slaughter a cow this year and put some in the freezer for the winter you had a guy for that and in the city I mean it's just all it's all it's all supermarkets and anonymity so and the world about those supermarkets they don't have anything now they always just tell you get it online why the fuck am I here why do you you think I'm here? I knew I could get a life because I need it now

Starting point is 01:37:28 Whatever I'm here for I need it now, which a Amazon's got it now. You can get say I mean half the shit I buy it they they're like hey you want it delivered same day No problem, dude, just get $25 of shit and we will deliver it to your door in hours Even Vons is doing that the grocery store down the street will deliver. You don't have to leave your house anymore Yeah, I don't know if that's good. No, the street will deliver. You don't have to leave your house anymore. Yeah. I don't know if that's good, dude. No, it's not good. Of course it's not good.

Starting point is 01:37:49 I don't know if that's good. So, uh, that was an interesting episode real quick, Johnny. Uh, so right now on the internet, there is, uh, just chaos with Robert Sala getting fired. And a lot of people think it might be because of the Lebanon flag that he wore on his shirt, because the owner is like super duper Zionist. And yesterday, wasn't it? Yeah. Which is super crazy because the jets are only one game out of the wild card, which for the Jets is pretty good. Yeah, if you don't know what we're talking about the Jets head coach this guy Robert Salah, he

Starting point is 01:38:31 Was having butting heads with Aaron Rodgers who you may be familiar with He's the quarterback from the NFL if you're not a sports guy who talks about UFOs and he was uh, Anti-vax all that shit. He got his coach, Robert Salle, he just got fired. And you're saying, uh, maybe because the Lebanese flag, huh? He wore it on his, like his, his shoulder right here. Yeah. Cause he's Lebanese and there's people coming out that, like, that the owner is super, super Zionist.

Starting point is 01:38:59 So it's very interesting. Woody Johnson though. Right. I mean, boy, yeah, but there's articles coming out where people have complained. He's asked, are you Jewish in interviews? All this stuff. Really? Hmm.

Starting point is 01:39:12 I mean, that's crazy. If that would be crazy, that would be just absolute. I mean, crazy, but not, you know, at the same time. They see was, was Robert's all Muslim. Do we know? No, but he's is he's Lebanese. So for someone who doesn't know about football, someone who doesn't know about football, should he be getting fired?

Starting point is 01:39:31 Is the record enough to be like, can you justify? Hey, it's early. It's they're like, one game out of the wild card. They're like two and four, right? No, they're two and three. So what you put. So would you guys put your money on that? It was the flag or his record.

Starting point is 01:39:44 I don't know. I, we, I don't know. Like, see the thing about Aaron Rogers is like, he's perceived in two ways, right? Like he's a little brat and at the same time he's kind of like chill, right? Just chill. So you don't know which Aaron Rogers is real. Oh, he is Muslim by the way, Robert song. Oh yeah. I mean like, so it's kind of crazy, dude.

Starting point is 01:40:07 We'll see, dude. We'll see. But like people are already going nuts. It's like right after that. I mean, people are like, he's on the hot seat. I go, oh, I'm shocked by it. I, yeah. I mean, and I, they had had those awkward, like those awkward moments that they kept

Starting point is 01:40:23 explaining away, like where Rogers like pushed him away, you know, and then the other one where you could tell he was like person, MFing him, you know, like on the side. Rodgers was directing it as coach, which is, I mean, you can't have a, if the coach is not respected by one of the players like that openly, you can't. I mean, that something's got either the players got to go or the coaches got to go. We've seen it time and again and ownership these days in every sport always sides with the players.

Starting point is 01:40:47 Always. Yeah. But, but my only, listen, Robert Salas has done nothing to earn credibility at this point. I mean, it's been a giant clusterfuck, right? Uh, but Aaron Rodgers is not the answer there. It's very weird. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:41:02 I mean, like, it's just the magic's gone. He got the injury. It's just the magic's gone. He got the injury. It's just the team isn't. The team isn't good. And, but it's not bad. Like in the AFC East, they're one game. I hope. And their defense has got talent.

Starting point is 01:41:18 I mean, he's 40 years old. That's old for a quarterback until, until Brady, you know, that was really old for a quarterback. Yeah, dude. I mean, they're one game like right now the Broncos and the, and the, the Pittsburgh Steelers have the, uh, wild card in the AFC. I know that nobody hates sport. Everyone hates sports talk and the Jets are one game out. It just makes no sense to me.

Starting point is 01:41:42 Yeah. I mean, I said it was the, the. Woody Johnson's, the owner's explanation was something like we are not meeting expectations that we had so far. So yeah, you don't, you, it used to be, you'd never see a coach get fired like this, this early in the season. Yeah. Especially when they're so close to being in a playoff game.

Starting point is 01:42:00 I mean, dude, David Tepper, the Panthers owner got shit for firing Frank Reich last year when they started o and four so Guy being a game out of the wild card. Although he's been there for a couple years to be fair, but I don't know Yeah, I live in crazy time guys go to Sam truly comm We're gonna get in it October 15th again. I am, I am dropping, go down Tulsa. October 15th. We're going to be banging it out. That's right.

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Starting point is 01:43:46 were banging out great ones. You don't even see the dangerous, dangerous there. The Johnny Cash is a dangerous, dangerous. I don't list them on the front page. Really breaking down this weather manipulation. I, I got it. I'm going to be honest with you, man. I'm seeing so many people that I love that I think are great comedians going off on weather

Starting point is 01:44:04 manipulation. Like it's not real. And I like, I just don't engage them because they're like people I love. So I just don't engage them, but it's like, this is 100% weather manipulation. It's, it's insane when you study it, how, how much of a science it is now. I mean, you remember you, you're one of these people. Now I, we made the verge on this, but you're, you're one of these people who think they can actually direct these things like dude, 100%. I don't, I'm not sure about that, but I do.

Starting point is 01:44:35 Johnny, Johnny, did you, I'll send you some videos. They'll show you where they just drop this stuff here, which will move the move the weather there. Yeah. But I mean, a hurricane is a whole different thing. I, I mean, the move the weather there. Yeah. But I mean, hurricanes, a whole different thing. I mean, I'm open minded, of course. I mean, they've been doing it since 1940. All right. Well, Johnny, OK, OK.

Starting point is 01:44:52 OK. For sure. Johnny, you believe that they can send it one way, right? I believe they can see clouds. Absolutely. Yeah. I don't know what you mean by send it one way. Well, like they can send it towards Miami or like towards the East Coast I think they can feed clouds that they know are following a certain like like in a search Well, you don't believe is that it's like a remote control where they can literally make it make a left turn, right? Exactly. Yeah, that's what you don't mean. Okay. Yeah, see I think it's one in the middle where it's basically they can send it there And let's see what happens. Yeah, I don't think it's a, I just don't think it's like that.

Starting point is 01:45:25 What you're saying. Yeah. Like a remote control. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm open minded about it, but I just, I don't know.

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Starting point is 01:47:19 Here's a clip from the latest Broken Sim. Do you want me to tell all the Skank Fest stories? Entirely, you do what you wanna do. It's entirely up to you. Okay, okay okay so i'll tell us real quick so then i one of my favorite things to do is that for some reason dave smith asked me every year to be a part of the problem now he asked me much later than yeah it's a great podcast i love dave smith he's so fast he's one of those guys that are the fastest guys out there there waiting for him to come back on TfH he'll come back on he's great, right? He's great

Starting point is 01:47:50 So he asked me I like I was like hey Dave you gonna do the show this year cuz he didn't ask me Usually I get asked much earlier finally I get hey, dude, you want to do TfH? Hell Yeah, you want to do part of the problem? Hell, yeah So it's him Robbie Bernstein and me, we've been like the staple of it for the last three years. And then they wrote in or they rotate in other people and this year they had Nick DePaulo and they had TJ Miller. Oh really? Wow. And bro, I'm going to tell you bro, those two guys are so fast and funny and I'm going to be honest with you, dude. Like I'm going to be honest with you. I almost got just lapped

Starting point is 01:48:29 Panicking about five minutes in the sink. Oh, dude. I'm in trouble They're also loud too like that and those guys are allowed and quick First of all, you know that Nick DiPaolo was one of the first ever paying gigs I ever did in a comedy club. Really? He was the headliner. That's cool. And I was the feature. I think a lot of him. I've always liked him.

Starting point is 01:48:49 Well, he's one of those guys that are just like, he's just a slit throat on stage, nicest guy off stage. He's an iconoclast. Get your rage out on the stage, comes off stage. Old school, talking shit. That's what we love. So funny, I loved him on Tough Crowd back in the day. Yeah, he was great, dude, he was great. He's what we love. So funny. I loved him on tough crowd back. Yeah, he's great dude. He's great

Starting point is 01:49:05 He's telling great stories. Anyways, so I go hey Nick, um you I You are the one I opened for you at the Riviera It was one of my first ever paying cuz comedy club gigs and you were the nice guy So I go to a dirty comedy show was like it goes I remember that I go Yeah, dude, you are you you're so nice to me, and I was just screaming at the crowd You were the best so anyways I show up to the I show up to the thing and I found this funny ass shirt Okay, so Vegas is just running scams on everybody right of course So I walked by these I walked by this shirt shop

Starting point is 01:49:42 And they have these funny ass shirts. And one of them is it says, sounds gay, I'm in. I was like, that was the funniest shirt I've ever seen. Okay, that's great. Sounds gay, I'm in. That's great. So I'm like, I think I'm gonna buy that and wear that, I'm part of the problem.

Starting point is 01:49:58 So I go by, I go, how much is that shirt? Sounds gay, I'm in. They go 25 bucks. I go, bang, let's go. Good deal. So I buy, I go, I'm in? They go 25 bucks. I go, bang, let's go. Good deal. So I go, I'm gonna come by tomorrow. So I come by, the girls I talked to weren't there. It's another girl.

Starting point is 01:50:11 At the shop? At the shop. Why didn't you just buy it then? I don't know, dude. I have to learn every lesson the hard way, okay? So I'm with my friends and we go inside. I love that you spent a night ruminating about, should I buy the Sounds Gay I'm In t-shirt?

Starting point is 01:50:30 Yeah, Sounds Gay I'm In. No, it's not Sounds Gay I'm In. It's Sounds Gay I'm In. No, no, I mean, I love that you spent the night debating. I don't know why I didn't buy it right there because I think I was running to a gig. I think I was running to a gig. So the next night I'm going to the I'm going to do the show

Starting point is 01:50:45 I go to buy it. She prints it for me right there. She's like $45 I go not not happening by she goes a lot I go I got promised $25 last time She's like I was working her less. I go no you weren't you weren't one of the girls working here It was $25. She goes $30. I go fine 30 bucks. That's what that's so funny Yeah, this will used to be Melrose back in the day They would rise the price up and then tell you they're giving you a discount Well, you got you what happened was you must have gotten the the kind of swar the Armenian price No, I'm like and then you got the white price not you you you you're you got the white

Starting point is 01:51:20 You're the white guy the next oh, yeah No, it was a it was a white girl the night before How they judge and then a fucking Filipino the next day I go. Oh, okay, of course your fill I know that's what I'm saying the people think Joe Koy's funny. I'll tell you that's running me that totally makes sense he the the The Filipino girl saw you as a white man. Yeah, the white girl saw you as a Swarovski Armenian Oh respect Johnny by the way girl saw you as a swarthy armenian oh respect johnny by the way i almost bought a second shirt it said stop bullying me you're gonna make me come

Starting point is 01:51:54 i almost bought that shirt oh i would love that we should maybe we should start getting more experimental with the tfh t-shirts you know like uh well we should get more experimental with the the we should by the way i mean these shirts are just ram shirts. We could totally sell them here. It's I'm adding it tomorrow. It'll be, it will be by the time you hear this, I'm in and don't bully me. I'm I'll come. Okay. By the time you listen to this episode, it will be at BS merge.com. It will be on there. It's so funny, dude. I'm not joking. It will be there. It's so, so, so, where can I get that shirt?

Starting point is 01:52:26 I go, hey, it's going to be on BS. You know, fuck you Filipino. You want to jack me for money? Now we're jacking your shirts. BSmerch.com. Check it out. So, so then I go to, I go to, I go, I'm walking down and they have Tony Roma's there and they're like, oh yeah dude, $11 prime rib. I'm like, damn dude, $11, let's go.

Starting point is 01:52:48 So my two friends from Phoenix show up, I take them to dinner, right? I'm like, let's go, it's $11, I got this. We go in, we sit down, we're like, yeah, what are the deals out there? Like, oh dude, those are different times. I go, what are you talking about? Yeah, it's different times It's like oh, it's like it's only on an odd day. That's called bait and switch 100% dude That is Hollywood Everything is bait and switch. It's absolutely ridiculous. So I go do the show. I have my sounds gay I'm in and then I realize I'm hanging out with Nick DiPaolo Wearing this fucking shirt, which probably isn't helping me. Yeah. Yeah. He's probably like this fucking fruitcake

Starting point is 01:53:33 Okay, uh Nick DiPaolo goes up crushes. Oh He brings up he brings up TJ Miller TJ Miller crushes Dave goes up, crush. Great, we sit down. And I'm gonna tell you something, dude. This part of the problem set, this show I watched, I was part of,

Starting point is 01:53:58 is probably the one be my most favorite time doing standup. And the only other time that beats this is the End of the World podcast I did with Rogan, and just having all my friends there. Is it online anywhere? I'll check it out. Well, I don't know if it's online. They're probably gonna put it out some point.

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Starting point is 01:55:10 Did I mention that we care? You know, um I've never laughed so hard in my life and Dude, TJ Miller is the fastest motherfucker out there like, you know when someone blows up you're like, ah, it's this You know at least in my head. I bro I get it He's so funny. I never like we're always cool But I'm just I just never am able to bond with anybody cuz I'm a fucking psycho, right? But it's like dude. I get it. I fucking get it. He's so fast. He tells the funniest story about

Starting point is 01:55:48 About him and Dave go to a Bitcoin conference that Trump is speaking at all of Trump's Secret service are huge fans of TJ Miller. So they let him do whatever he wants Really? They don't even kill he tells the funniest story about how he's just dressed like a crazy person and Trump is on stage sitting at like a panel and TJ Miller just gets up, walks across the panel, nobody stops him, stares at Trump, Trump makes eye contact with him, walks across the other way, senior service there,

Starting point is 01:56:24 he's like, how do I get off stage? They're like, you're probably gonna have to go back the other way, walks back again, makes eye contact with Trump, walks off, nobody did anything. That's crazy, and that's how you almost get your president shot twice, by the way. And this is the guy that had problems with the FBI, you remember that moment?

Starting point is 01:56:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So crazy to me, but dude is the funniest story, one of the funniest stories I've ever seen told live. Oh, I've always admired his talent. He's so good, dude. And like, Day Smith, this is how good TJ Miller and Nick DePauw was. Day Smith hardly talked on his own podcast. And he's so- Perfectly, yeah.

Starting point is 01:57:02 Oh yeah, dude. So dude, I am drowning up there. I'm like, I am getting lapped. When I throw something, I'm getting nothing at first. And then this story comes out about Nick DePaulo having a trans niece, nephew that's now a niece. And dude, I throw out this line that crushes. And I just go, imagine being trans and your uncle's Nick DePaulo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:57:29 And the whole place went nuts. Everyone's high fiving me on the panel and I'm like, okay, I'm good now. I got my lap in. I'm totally good. Let's go. Right. So yeah, I did. Yeah. That's so funny that you're on a panel where you had to revert to being the sniper. Yeah. I mean, like that, how many rooms can you ever be in where you have to be this? I was I was lucky to be there like they were like dude, but that's a special room Yeah, I'm like fucking struggling to get laughing. Yeah Well, you know just sitting back and like looking for your your moment. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's hard So it was good to be out there saw the boys saw it was like an old school comedy store

Starting point is 01:58:07 Fucking lineup. Oh, yeah all of them And you know I'm bitching about LA comedy and the people who used to live in LA left all like yeah You're totally right the people are still in LA We're all like you know and I'm like I get it cuz you're you're benefiting from it, but you know it's wrong You know what's happening here is wrong. And it's like, that's why we got to go. I got to get out of here. And it's not, dude, and it's not just the comedy, though.

Starting point is 01:58:33 If it was just the comedy, you could maybe bring up your girls here and just live your life. But it's not. I mean, it's the politics. It's just everybody that you encountered in your day to day life now It's so many of them are aggressively stupid Johnny aggressively stupid. So the the funniest thing is like, you know Fremont Street is like is

Starting point is 01:58:55 Is like a alien science project like if human beings were like sea monkeys That's why I've never been I've been to Vegas a times. Johnny, I don't know how you would take it. I love it. It makes me laugh. It's just like regular people loving their life, but you're like, Oh, America is fucked. That's what you get off it. And it's just like, it's just, there's a guy that there's two guys there and their whole thing is they're dressed up as giant gorillas and you take pictures with them. And I'm like, I'm like, this is Joe Biden's economy, right? These are where all the jobs that Joe Biden's administration has created is, is at fucking is, is on Fremont street. And then, so we've talked about this before, but there's just chicks who are like Fremont

Starting point is 01:59:42 street and the guy handing you the parking ticket to get you out The sign flippers, okay So so we do we do that and you go there and it's like there's just chicks there that want you to pay them To take pictures with them. Are you serious? And they're good. No, but they're like they're like sixes at the best But are they like their titties are out or something? Yeah, but it's it's not like you're like damn, bro Let me take a picture with that. You're like no, it's like really has gotten to like the idiocracy level It's like they've literally monetized being hot like immediate like just direct Johnny and to God That's so every chick that did that look like she was a teacher who got busted

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