Tomorrow - 245: New year, same Tomorrow

Episode Date: January 19, 2022

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Hey and welcome to tomorrow, I'm your host Joshua Topolski. Today in the podcast we discuss Willem De Dafoe, CRTs in Greenguts. I don't always one minute. Let's get right into it. All right, Ryan, we're back. We're back. We're back. We're doing a podcast.

We are. Sorry for our absence. You know, we've had CES. We're back. We're doing we're doing a podcast. We are sorry for our absence It you know, you know what see yes. We've had holidays. I almost died. Okay, it's harrowing. I got COVID You did? Yeah, I was like last I think the last time we podcast did podcast Last time we did a podcast I was like yeah my tests are coming up negative, but I was exposed or something like that. Yeah, you're like, there could be a chance that someone has COVID somewhere, but probably not me. And then, and then I was like, I ended up like the red scare lady in the hospital, you

know, discovering I'm immunocompromised. No, actually, they did happen to the red scare lady. Well, suddenly, suddenly compassion is a lot cooler than it was. Well, I guess she's an anti-vaxxer. So I learned a lot about her, just an interesting lady who's an anti-vaxxer, who she loves Coke. But vaccines can't put those in your body. Coke, not very cool.

It's very cool. Not Dasha, the other one. Yeah, the Anna. The less popular. Anna, Anna Anna I don't know how you pronounce it and any rate I don't listen to their podcast because it's done. They thought I'm annoying but and their nightmare but I but then I caught wind of apparently like they both got COVID but once an anti-vaxxer or something or one had to get vaccinated because they're both anti-vaxxers but Dasha wasn't allowed to be on succession if they didn't you shouldn't get a vaccine or something. At any rate, it's great to see the best people succeed.

But anyhow, but I got COVID also, just like the red scare ladies, and didn't go on Reddit to argue with people about it, because actually, I mean, you know, I guess I got the Omicron variant. It was very mild illness for me. Of course, I was vaccinated and had a booster shot. So I think that goes a long way from what I understand.

If you look at the, what's interesting about COVID, what's interesting about, if you look at the COVID lines and you look at like how things are going for the unvaccinated and the vaccinated, the really like unvaccinated looks insane and vaccinated people look about the same as it's been for the last several months. Like it is not people who got vaccinated

are not getting really sick and dying from this. People who get vaccinated and boosted are having, you know, it's not perfect and certainly we definitely need an Omicron specific vaccine, but they're not dying. So that's pretty good. And people who aren't vaccinated a lot of them are dead. That you should be worried about that. It's a very sad state of affairs. Speaking of Glenn Back has COVID and it's spread to his lungs. He said, sad, I wasn't feeling anything when he was, glad to back, I just, I'm just seeing this trend

on my trending, on the trending timeline. Glenn Beck had it. He already had COVID. Well, he has it for the second time, and this time it spread to his lungs, which is, he refused to get vaccinated because he said, I have immunity from the first time I had COVID. Very sad, I wish Glenn Beck, a speedy recovery,

because he's such a good guy and I wish he could continue to be on the planet talking I hope he gets all the empathy and compassion he's ever had for anyone else and I'll leave it at that totally totally at any rate so yes so I got it it was really cool it was great and I and I don't recommend it but if you do have to get it, I recommend getting vaccinated beforehand, which seems to be helpful. But yeah, so a lot of people are doing it. All the cool kids are doing it. A lot has happened. All the liberal cocks are getting vaccinated.

A lot has happened in the time since we last spoke to one another on the podcast. I mean, honestly, I can't remember all of the things that have happened. Some pretty important ones, some non-important ones. But I had a good break. I had a solid week where I really didn't just was not really online at all. And I haven't done that in a long time.

I can't remember how long it's been. But it was good. And I didn't miss it. I got to say when I got back online, I wasn't like, oh, man, I can't believe I lived without this. It was like, I guess I got to do this now again for work. But I think we should not be online. I guess I gotta do this now again, you know, for work.

But I don't, I think we should not be online. I think I love online, okay, don't get me wrong. I'm a big fan of on being online. But I think it's probably, we should take six months out of the year, everybody should be. Everybody should take six months in there and just be not online. Half of us online, half of us not online.

I think that would be a great solution to a lot of our problems. I've dived recently into the society of the spectacle, it's like the sort of topic of, it's a post-markicism philosophy about how consumerism and capitalism eventually devolve into just like spectacle and perception and like image and everything that you purchase is because you want to look a certain way to yourself or to other people or not necessarily even look, but just like present a certain way like for example, a good example that was used in this video I was watching was that I'm a Mac, I'm a PC ads where it's a functional device that exists to do things and self-problems and it's entirely marketed on the kind of person who would purchase it.

And it has made me think a lot about the amount of time we spend consuming or being consumed and maybe not to be too sexy. But maybe please do be sexy. But maybe I'm starting to think, I'm starting to think that the vast majority of our time should be spent either creating things or experiencing things that nobody has experienced before. I have other near-sales solutions that I'm doing, but one of the things I want to. Yes, I'm doing a different resolution every month because it takes 30 days to build a habit, and I figure if I pick 12 small habits, what if even half of them stick? That's pretty good. That would be amazing. Huge hit right there. But one of the things I want to focus on is I want to

spend the majority of my time creating something or which is great because that's part of my job. So life hack right there. Or I want to be experiencing things that people have an experience before and I want to stop focusing a lot of my life around the consumption of media, whether it be like books about this very philosophy or Netflix series or even games, which is tough because it's part of my job. Games are on the line, I think, of whether they're consumption or they're experiential. But other than that, I feel like a lot of my life has been spent feeling the need that I will

not be complete until I absorb all of the consumption. Yeah. And then I'll be ready to create and I am allegedly turning 33. Nobody knows if that's true or not. Certainly science, the science is out. My life is passing and I need, I feel like it's a good way to like refocus and be like, I need to, we should all basically stop. And I think that ties into what you're saying. Like, log off. I think, I mean, it's a dumb to say,

I mean, as a very online individual, but I do think a little bit of distance from all of it is extremely healthy. I will say, and I know people have been saying this for, you know, forever. I watched Zelda suddenly, like kind of like is into, not into Disney movies, like suddenly she's like a Disney fan girl or something,

but my name is Joshua Tabulski and I'm raising a Disney adult. Yeah, exactly. No, she hasn't gone like full Disney fan girl, but the, between we started watching, like we watched some of the movies that she has not watched, like, Moana, we watched and we watched, um, we watched Reckett Ralph, which we watched when she was a little, I mean, I put Reckett Ralph on when she was a little kid and we sat and watched it, but I don't think she really got it, you

know, she was really little like three or something. And, and she was very interested in watching it. And then, and obviously, obviously, it's an interesting one because there's a lot in record Ralph that is not for children. Not content-wise, it's pretty tame, content-wise. Just the references are not for kids, because they have no idea who those characters are,

who those people are, what the significance is. They don't know who Cuebird is. It's completely lost on them. You know who invented that? Who invented that genre for Disney? Or who? Or who? Robin Williams.

Aladdin was one of the first ones that contained references that were specifically intentionally not for Disney. Well, we have to be prepared. Well, that's actually the lead in here, which is that over after Thanksgiving, we went to see Aladdin on Broadway. And oh my God, I love it. Which is who like it. Oh my God, it was awesome. I mean, it was awesome.

And of course Zelda, who is already like a theater kid and already does like that stuff, has like, we are now like listening to the Aladdin Broadway soundtrack on repeat in the car. So I am like, He's basically wanna have a kid. I'm really, yeah. It's not, but here's the things,

your kid's gonna end up being like a football jock as what's gonna happen. No, I'm scared. I'm scared all the time that she's gonna like suddenly become like a person that I don't like. You know what I'm like? You know, it happens all the time. You know, you're like all this kid so great

and then they become like a complete tool. Can we watch more Glenn Beck before he dies? Yeah, let's get going. Yeah, exactly. Like, she's like writing a, I hope you get well soon, Glenn Beck, card to him in the hospital. And anyway, so we went to see Aladdin, yeah. And then we're listening to Aladdin,

and then we're like, you know, there's a movie, like an animated movie Aladdin, which is, definitely date is not, you know, it literally has that Disney thing to be in here. It's like this contains cultural depictions that are, you know, are inappropriate. And it's like, first off, like, I mean, she didn't read that part, but if she had, I would, it would be such a weird conversation

to have, like we've had conversations about stuff like that before, but proceeding like her front, she loved Aladdin in the theater. She thinks this is gonna be like the animated version of it. So, actually, this is way more racist and sexist. But, yes, so we watched a lad and then it was like, oh, here's these other movies and we started if I've been going through some of the catalog, you know, especially over the break where I wasn't,

you know, sitting on my computer doing work or whatever. But, we watched Reckit Ralph and then we watched the sequel, Ralph breaks the internet, which I had never seen. I'd only seen parts of. And I have to say it was fucking depressing, very depressing. Because first off, it is a movie that is just like filled with brands, which to me are, I mean, I get the placement and stuff.

I think whatever, it's fine, it's fine, it makes sense. Like, but there's a fake like YouTube in the movie. I don't know, spoiler for anybody, but it came out in 2018. So you're kind of, you know, it's your problem. Theaters were open. They, they, the theaters were open. People were breathing normally. The, you know, they have this like fake YouTube.

And a big part of the plot is like Ralph makes viral videos to make money. And the way the money is depicted in the movie is like people give you hearts and that turns into money. And Zelda was like, Zelda who does not, we really don't let her go on YouTube. She just not, like she's not interacting

with any social apps as much as we can help it. And, you know, it's just like, I don't think that's a place for children full stop. She was like, is this really how the internet works? And I was like, no, like, no, yes, there are places where like, you can make money for putting videos online and people do like put hearts on them But like it's not like but it's like so fucking depressing that the central

Concept of the internet as depicted in this movie is you Make a thing people do a heart on it and then like you get paid and it's like yeah, they're fucking sucks Like it sucks, and I know that know that, and they don't really have commentary on it. There's not really commentary on the internet in that way of it existing in that film. And which I don't expect them to have intense, I mean, although a lot of Disney movies do have a lot of like social commentary, this one does not. It is like, yeah, this is a fun thing

that happens on the internet and it's like a plot point, but not more than that. But it was like, you know, a depressing question to be asked and one to answer and also to consider like, yeah, kind of though, a lot of the internet is sort of just simply designed around this commerce. And increasingly, and I've been thinking about this a lot as we look at what's going on in the crypto worlds

and in NFTs and in this whole mountain of new hype that is built around, essentially what we are really talking about, people are talking about ownership and decentralizing the internet and all this stuff, but really at its core, it is ballasted by a desire to create some new systems of commerce for people. It is really like, oh, you can buy and sell these things or you can own this thing and people will have to pay you to use it.

Or you can invest in this thing and it will accrue value over time and then you can use it to do things elsewhere. And it's like, that's a fucking shit system for anything, shit basis for any system is like, ooh, like it's a money making, like it's a, it's, let's decentralize all the money making opportunities so everybody can like,

have their own little weird, like, money making fiefdom. And it's like, it sucks, you know, just basically it's a bad way to organize your life. And I understand we live in a capitalist society, and you know, we, you know, we live in a society, et cetera. That's true. We do. We do. We do. But, um, but I, but, but, uh, the founder of Signal, Moxie Marlin's bike, which is his God-given name, uh, wrote, he basically was like, I took a look at all this web three stuff. And, and a dude that I will say, you know, you can give me all the hype you want. Here's a guy who legitimately made a product that, from like, tech, hardcore tech bros to

like regular people, they're like, wow, this is a great product that has values things that I value like my privacy and and you know, like security. And you allows me to communicate in ways that like Apple and Google haven't given us options for or Facebook or anybody else where it's like truly like a kind of, you know, it is like a kind of an amazing service for people that doesn't ask,

I don't think there's a paid tier of signal, right? It's like a free app for communication that is centered on security and privacy. And as far as I know, it's kind of the only legit one out there. And at any rate, so he wrote this thing, which is all about kind of dissecting this web three hype and NFTs. And it's really, it's not great. It's not great. And if you really, and I highly recommend it,

I tweeted it a couple of days ago, but there's a part where he talks about what NFTs actually are, which is essentially, an NFT is like, this weird digital receipt for something that is totally not permanent and has total impermanence. And in fact, if anybody ever got control of the server that this quote unquote NFT was on, or if it ever changed hands,

if anybody bought the domain or whatever, they could just simply change what this thing is. Like there is no consistent thing that is perfect. You purchased a receipt. You did not purchase the thing on the receipt. Right, and I mean, the conceptually. Yeah, and like, you know, and I feel really conceptually yeah and like you know and I feel really I

feel really bad for like you know for the amount of people who are like being taken in by this weird gold rush and the gold rush is so vacant you know it's so vacant and like you know I'm not I'm not against wealth creation I think that's great sure if you can do it I'm not against wealth creation. I think that's great. Sure, if you can do it, I'm not against the idea of, obviously I love the idea of a new technology is they put more power in the hands of users, but that's not this.

And it's just like, but again, at the core of it, it's like everything is sort of being designed around this bullshit, this like commerce bullshit, and it's like, I don't know. Like I don't think that's like, I think we have to find it. I mean, I know we've had this all the time, but I just think we need to find a different way to design our lives. It's like, yeah, it's just like, it's anyhow, it kind of leads back to this conversation about the

our, whether or not, how online we should be and what we should really be valuing online. So, I don't want to spend a ton, I feel like we talked about this last time and there's a bunch of other things I'd like to talk about. But anyhow, it was interesting just spending some time offline. And also, it was interesting being like trapped in a hotel room while I had COVID, trying to not give it to anybody else and being like, you know, sitting there kind of with nothing to do, it was work, obviously, but, you know, not feeling that great and sort of like, okay, what is there? And what I found is the thing that gave me the most joy was playing video games. And I did have at least one day where I just sat in a dark hotel

room and played video games, not online. And it was a joy that I can't even begin to describe. But. You're saying definitely recommend getting COVID 10 out of 10? Yeah, well, no, I mean, I think, listen, I had, I'm, I have the luxury, I had the luxury being able to say, okay, I'm gonna go to a hotel and not, you know, get my family sick, you know, and not get anybody else sick and really just sit here in this room and, and wait

till this thing is over. A lot of people don't have that luxury and so it's, you know, it's, no, don't get, wear a mask, mask up, get the vaccine. At any rate, but so I did a lot of, so I did a lot of, speaking of consuming, I mean, in speaking of like, what do you call it, wrecked Ralph, you know, I did do a lot of, you know, I saw, I have, can I tell, I booked so on in the middle of my COVID, and not in the middle of it, before I tested positive, I had booked it, I was like, you know what, fuck, I'm gonna go see the new Spider-Man movie

by myself, you know, I'm sitting here, I'm isolating, but I'm testing negative, so I like booked a ticket, I'm like, I'm testing negative, I like booked a ticket. I'm like I'm testing negative I'm gonna go see it and then like the day that My ticket was for I tested positive. It's like okay, well, I'm not going to see it I did end up having to get a cam version of the new spider-man movie which I have to say was horrible to watch but It gave me all that I needed to get I mean I want to go. I mean, I want to go see it. I'd like to go see it. I probably will in the theater. But can we talk about the Spider-Man movie for a second? Do we care? I mean, I assume you saw it in the theater.

Loved it. Yeah. I... So there's a couple of things that stood out to me. Maybe this is partially because I was watching a cam version of which I basically never do, but I was so desperate to not have the movie completely spoiled that I was like I cannot do this, like I cannot sit and be online in any capacity. And it's how I currently feel about the screen. Yeah, oh my god, no, it's like I don't even really, I feel like the screen franchises pretty dead. Like I think the first three are pretty interesting. It kind of starts to wane at the third one.

Like the first two. I love for. I didn't love really. I thought for was so dumb. I hated for. I thought for was fun and it was very of its time, but I liked it. But I've heard that I've heard this new one is like wonderful.

So I've heard people are like, it's incredible. I've heard this well though Kyle Turner was who opinions I think are very good was on. Of course. was online last night talking about how it was not good and it was kind of a disappointment and sort of talking about why without getting into obviously spoilers.

Well, I'm, I definitely, I'll say this, they've definitely gotten me to the point where I'm like, shit, I should go see it because I don't want to get this spoiled and I love scream and maybe they do something really amazing that I didn't see coming. But with the Spider-Man movie, I mean, I basically knew it was pretty clear, pretty early on. I mean, it's been rumored for a fucking year or more that the Spider-Man movie was going to have all these crazy cameos in it. And I so nothing was surprising about the fact that these characters appear.

And I would just, let me just say, if you haven't seen it or you're thinking about seeing it, I'm gonna talk about a lot of spoilers here, so don't keep listening if you don't want to have the film spoiled. I don't want to spoil it for anybody, but I do want to talk about it. There are a couple of things I thought were interesting. First off, again, maybe because I was watching on a cam version. Things look very green screen to me in scenes that didn't seem to need to have a green screen. And oh, well, that's all. At Marvel at this point, it's infuriating.

Sorry, I don't expect to. It's infuriating, but 99% of the movies are CGI, and to the degree that like, things, it's weird. The composite, the things that they leave out, it's just like, well, it's not put the wig on today. We'll just digitally put it in. Yeah, it's like, you know, instead of a, instead of a figure out what the costume is,

you're just gonna wear a green suit for the entire thing and we'll put the costume in later. Yeah. And sometimes it works, but when it doesn does and I don't know that it was worth it. Yeah, I mean, like I, I think there are scenes where it's like two characters in a room not wearing costumes, not doing like spells and they're like not in the room together. That's some of those scenes and maybe it's COVID stuff and I would totally understand if they were like, you know, there were certain situations where we couldn't get these people together

for whatever reason. But like a weird amount of like non-practical effects. Like to my, in my opinion, just they're really at a point now where kind of just a lot of it really does look like a cutscene from a video game. Like it doesn't, I feel like there's just no gravity. What's so ever? No stakes and no gravity in so many of the scenes,

but like even in scenes that where it should have gravity, like a two people talking, you know? Like I was like, are they, did they composite in like Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield to like the lab scene where they're all like working on experiments? Like honestly, there were parts of it where I'm just like, this is odd.

So let me just talk about it. So just, on that, on that just like one big broad note, which is, and again, I didn parts of it where I'm just like, this is odd. So let me just talk about it. So just, on that, just like one big broad note, which is, and again, I didn't see it on, obviously I'd like to see it on a proper massive theater, in a theater, which I will, probably this week, next week. It does benefit from that. Of course, no, of course. I mean, this is no way to watch it.

Again, this was a desperation move because I had, my time to see it had been ruined by COVID and I needed to have it not be spoiled. It would not be a preferred choice for sure. But the Toby and Andrew Garfield thing is really interesting. First off, I've said this before I think, but it is such a radical and weird idea. And I cannot overstate this. And I'm not trying to give,

these are super hero movies about like, about like good guys versus bad guys. They are not complicated movies. They are not complex movies. They don't really require a lot of, they don't have endings usually where you're like, I'm challenged by how that film resolved. You know, it's not like that.

But there is something that is so unusual about this idea that they are like, I mean, I don't think it exists. I've talked about this before. I don't think this is a pre-existing thing in film ever, where they are like finding a way to encompass a part of this universe, this like you know, established universe that was like completely distinct from it, you know, and it is a complete comic book trope. I mean, it is invented. It is a and it is pretty, I think particularly of like in the 80s,

a kind of 1980s phenomenon where all of the, where DC and Marvel were trying to resolve and reckon with all of these varieties of the characters that had been depicted over you know, 50 years of comic books, you it would make sense, because this is kind of a transference of that to a different format. But the idea that you can include these films, that some love and some hate, into the new canon of movies is really unusual and interesting. But it also plays into a lot of the lore of the characters, and I think they do a particularly interesting job in this movie.

And I actually saw a headline, which was like, I'm not gonna read this, this is before I saw it, which was something like, it might have been a polygons, so I can't remember, it might have been in verse, which was like, Peter Parker really became Spider-Man in the new movie. And I kind of didn't know what that meant

until I saw the movie. And I do think it's interesting the way they wrap the lore of Spider-Man. And particularly of the From the Films, which has been where it has been a very, there's been this whole sort of character development for Spider-Man around this idea that he is like, kind of an impulsive kid

who doesn't know how to handle being like. He didn't take himself seriously when the other Spider-Man, we've seen on film, immediately, talk about himself seriously. Right, because they had a reason to, right? And I think, anyhow, but, but so, I thought that was really interesting.

I thought, I would I was surprised, somewhat surprised to see is that they treated Toby's and Andrew Garfield's spider men as they were like fixed in time, right? Like, they were not fixed in time, rather. They were not like young versions. Whereas we do see a younger version of Willem DeFoe, obviously because, you know, we're presumed he comes out of the world where he died. So we see a younger version of Alfred Molina. I mean, Jamie Foxx just looks good. I don't know if he's supposed to be younger or

not, but he did. I don't feel like he was CGI at all. Maybe I'm crazy. But I think that they did like a light touch on multiple people and they have found the right way to balance it. And we're not getting like that princess Leia. Yeah, I thought, I thought so in the trailer that where they show Alfa Malina, I was like, I don't know, this is kind of like not working for me, but I have to say in the film, and again, this may be a side effect of the cam, but I thought like the Willem DeFoe and Alfa Malina CGI to D.A.G. them was like pretty impeccable.

I fully forgot and had to remember like three times through the movie and I had to remember by thinking like, Alfred Molina looks great. And then I was like, oh no he does it. Yeah, I mean he does, I don't know. I'm looking at somebody else. And like I gotta say like this,

I mean this is a full, if you like Willem DeFoe as the Green Goblin, oh my God. You will love Willem DeFoe as the green goblin, oh my God. You will love Willem DeFoe as the green goblin in this new Spider-Babie because it is like, it is so much fuller tilt than any full tilt performance he has delivered. He needs an Oscar. Get him an Oscar. Not even for this, but get him an Oscar.

I think he might, doesn't he have an Oscar for something? Does he not? He should. I don't think he does. Just give him one. But I actually think his, I think it's a fucking hilarious, it's just amazing performance. So good.

It's so good. And listen, the movie is a very satisfying film. I think, but what's so interesting is, I don't remember the amazing Spider-Man that much, like the Andrew Garfield movies. I mean, I vaguely remember them. I know Dane De, like the Andregard-Field movies. I mean, I vaguely remember them. I know Dane DeHon is in them, or at least one of them. But I had high highs and low lows.

Yeah. Well, I remember the most significant thing, which obviously is very significant. And this movie is the end of the second one, the amazing Spider-Man 2, where, again, spoiler alert, but they like kill Gwen Stacy, right? And like in a way that you're like, that's not going to happen. And then it does. And it's pretty fucked up. Like, yeah, it gets pretty fucked up. Like, I remember being watched the movie thinking like, that's a crazy, like, they made a crazy choice here. Like, this was not what I thought was going to happen. And so obviously it's like a central point and I gotta say like,

very emotional moment in the movie, which I knew was going to happen based on the trailer, the last trailer they had, where they kind of show a scenario with MJ where it's like a mirror scenario of that. But I gotta say Andrew Garfield, he's so charming in this movie, but I don't remember his Spider-Man being like the way he is in this movie. I feel like he's like not,

there's something that's like so weirdly conversational about all of his dialogue and so like neurotic that it kind of feels like he's, I don't know, maybe you remember this better than I do, but was he that character in his Spider-Man movies? Was he like that? I think he's just kind of doing Andregar field. I think in this one, he had a softer sort of touch and the writing allowed, I think the writing took into account what the significant things we remember

about his character were, which is like the loss of Gwen Stacy, right, like his parents, the whole situation. Those, those, oh, right. I forgot about the setup, the weird like his parents. Yeah. It's like a whole thing with his parents. Yeah. Right.

It's a whole thing. And I think that the, the writer of this movie took that into account because it was in contrast to the other Spider-Man. And so there is like a softer, more reflective version of him. But I do think both of them had this signature Andrew Garfield like slick snarky-ness, which I like, but you know, some people don't feel as right. They're people are either poker,

and I agree to a certain exact. I haven't seen Tick-Tick boom, but I understand that people are loving it, and his performance is being lauded. I think he wanted golden globe or something for it, maybe. I mean, you can buy a golden globe. Okay, well, whatever, I'm just saying, people are loving it and his performance and it is being lauded. I think he want to go and globe or something for it. Maybe. I mean, you can buy a golden globe. Okay.

Well, whatever. I'm just saying, I just this is what I've heard. So, I mean, I think Andrew Garfield's having a moment, which is like good for him. Honestly, I support Andrew Garfield. I'm glad. Me too. I'm glad he's having a moment.

I've always liked him. I would, I would destroy that man. Wow. I hope he has, I hope he has such a fun life. He has a bodyguard. He is a king. Yeah, okay. At any rate.

And then the whole tell me a guy or thing is interesting. I mean, he's like old man. He's the old spider man. Which like, he's kind of refreshing because I thought they would like D.A.G. and then they'd be like young spider man. And they're not.

They did not do the point, which I predicted would happen. And I'm a little disappointed to be honest. They didn't go there Because I like people to do the point. No, they don't do the point. That's they do do they do the point Yeah, you must have missed it I know it must have been so bad at it up. They all point at each other Do they like one second? Yeah, they don't they don't dwell on it But it's there. Hold on, no way, I gotta see this point scene. Point scene.

Point meme, throw meme in there and that'll help. Point meme. At any rate, hold on, I was like, oh shit. I liked that Jamie Foxx is like, I kinda thought you'd be black to end your Garfield. That was so good. Which is like, there's definitely a black spider right out there. Which I thought was a good way to go.

Does this open the door for Donald Glover to finally place Peter Parker? Well, I think Donald Donald was. He too old now. Miles Morales, but I think that he's changed. Right, no, that makes sense. I guess I would say instead of that. I mean, there's no reason why you couldn't have

a black Peter Parker though. Technically it's reason. But I think Miles Morales is one of the cases where the character was written so intentionally to take into account the fact that he's a minority. Right. It's a different story. Yeah, no, no, that was the reason. I mean, I think you could do. I like it. I mean, the thing about it is like, the weird thing about Combooks is like, it's always is it's always this weird thing where you can do anything with these characters and they're like, well what is the character's black and people are like, I don't know about that.

Does it really fucking matters? It's the JK Rowling of it all, it's just like, really? That's what got you. People transition agendas. That's the one you can't buy. I know, it's fucking, it's fucking, sure. I want to talk about that actually, but wait, do they have a point scene? Is it my missing this?

Like, they do have a point scene, yeah. I'm gonna, I'll go go right now. I can't find a shot of this, but at any rate, at any rate, there's a lot to like about this. There was a lot to like about it. It was very emotional. I think it was a great film. I would say it is the best Spider-Man movie after Spider-Man 2, Toby McGuire Spider-Man 2.

I do think it makes the other, the other Tom Holland Spider-Man movies look kind of forgettable by comparison. Like, they do this, sorry, I have to interrupt you. They do this scene. It's in the script area It's when they're like talking about their web shooters and how He told me what I didn't have web shooters. Oh, yeah, it's arm. They are they both all look at each other and they're all pointing at their web shooters Okay, well, I'll have to go I'll have to script scan my contents. He was going on return to His fine. What was I say? I don't fuck you remember. Yeah, I was saying the other, the other Spider-Man movies seem kind of lame by comparison. Like, I don't really even really remember them. They're just kind of these vague.

Like, they're so vague. I feel like they're just, I think the problem with those movies is that there isn't any heart to them. Like, I think that's the thing about the spider-man as a character. He's supposed to be, you know, that's what kind of always sucked about his whole Tony Stark relationship and his special spider suit and stuff. It's like, that is not the stuff that is not who Spider-Man is. He should be sentimental and guilty and anxiety-ridden. There should be a lot more.

But also Moranis in Spider-Man than there ever is. Right. But also, he's just not like, the idea that he has this like really cool suit with all these electronics in it and like Spiderman. I know. It's like, the whole point is like, he's a kid

swinging around in fucking Spandex and he has these like amazing abilities, but like he's not a soldier, you know? He's not a super soldier. He's a part of the charm is that he thinks that he, he does not seem to comprehend his own mortality for much of his journey. Which is very charming.

Yes. And I think he's intethetical to like the whole Batman thing where, I mean, even the turn here, where it's like this conversation about wanting revenge, which is what this movie is sort of like the desire for revenge versus redemption, that because Spider-Man is poor, he has coping mechanisms.

Batman has no coping mechanisms. He had something taken from him and that has never happened to him and will never happen to him again. And he is furious about it. Spider-Man understands that you have to laugh and move on. Like you have to just do something with your pain and move to the next.

It's also about like, and it is kind of explicitly in this movie, which is like, do you let that desire for revenge become all consuming, which is basically Batman is like, he wants revenge and it like turns him into a monster. And that's Andrew Garfield, Spider-Man's journey. They really just do a Batman story where he's, he's rage-filled and he, you know, starts taking big like chances and getting overconfident and... Is that what happens in his Spider-Man movie?

Yes, and then Gwen dies because of part of his overcokey and like, oh, I'll just solve everything with webs. Yeah, thinking. Right, but in this movie, I thought it was effective because it was like, oh, they're using the other Spider-Man to correct what people, what isn't working with this one. Right. Which is so smart from a production standpoint

and also makes for a great script. So they're like, what's missing? And I think what is missing is like, why do I care? What is it? Like I get, like when you first see Spider-Man, I believe his first appearance is in Civil War, I want to say. And you're introduced to him. He is the Peter Parker that we think of.

Like he's wearing some bad, weird, homemade costume. And it's completely out of like, out of his element, has no idea what he's doing, is a cocky teenager, but also stunned to be wherever he is, doing whatever he's doing. And I feel like the last time you saw that character, and everything else is after that, it's shrouded in this weird relationship with Tony Stark that feels totally a fan service,

but not really like honoring the character of Spider-Man at all, not really like doing. It's like, yes, like if you're a Spider-Man and fan you'll love this, it's more like, if you love the Marvel movies, you'll love this, not like if you love Spider-Man, you'll love this, you know? Anyhow, so long and short, I don't wanna spend the entire podcast talking about this,

but I thought incredibly successful in its, first of all, I think it's really dumb things about the movie. Stuff that I will not get hung up on, but one could easily get hung up on. The entire interact with Dr. Strange is so stupid. I mean, so stupid. I mean, so stupid. The idea that Dr. Strange would do this spell for Spider-Man is completely absurd. Like, I wish they had found a better explanation for it. Maybe they will explain it somehow in the future.

I know there's like people are like, oh, it's not really Dr. Strange. It's like some bad guy posing as Dr. Strange. Dr. On the Rain. Yeah, but that doesn't, but that doesn't, that's not it to me. No, no. You can't do that.

And it also, you can't do that within the context of the movie. Like the movie does have to stand on its own in order to be a good movie. And it's like, I think there's some really cool stuff that happens with the doctor's strange story and with Ned and like the whole, I think that's really fun.

I just wish they'd found another way to get to this place. Like why couldn't they tie in something like from the whole, like whatever's going on with like, I feel like they are going to, but like whatever's going on with Loki or with like, Wandavision, I feel like there's plenty of opportunities there to have something happening that is out of control but isn't being done by like Dr. Strange.

Like, it just seems really random and bad and like not very uncharacteristic for that character, you know, like I get Peter Parker asking, I don't get Dr. Strange going like, okay, let's do it. And then there's this whole like goofy bit where he's like, he messes up the spell and it's like, that's dumb.

Like that's just a bad explanation for what happens. You know, I don't know, it seems silly. Like, oh, hey, what if he just messes up the spell? It's like, okay, what if I guess, but... It felt like a solution that felt very convenient for Marvel because they have other Dr. Strange things being lined up that are multiverse-based and are very easy to just slide him in. But then it's also I

bringing magic into anything. I understand it's part of the Marvel universe and they do work it very well. It worked in Loki. Like they figure out how to work it in. But when you bring it into like there this movie had a lot going on and And Magic Spells was another layer that was just like, okay, so we've got Weird Science, Ultra Weird Science, Magic Spells. Like, there's a lot of contrivances at one. It takes a lot to get to where they get to. And it's like, I feel like they maybe did not need

to do as much as they did. Like, I guess maybe this will, it all will be revealed as we continue to explore the Marvel universe and their attempts to like pay. I mean, I guess, listen, here's what I took away from this. Okay. All of this is leading back to, I mean, I think you know this, right?

All of this is leading back to Robert Downey Jr., coming back, right? There's no doubt in my mind. Has. Okay, can you imagine the number at the box office when they bring Iron Man back? Because like, it is really kind of to me. My brother's entire marvel and Harry Potter now, fandom, is premised on, I love Robert Downey Jr.

Right. Iron Man and I want more and there's zero reason why if we can bring Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield a spider man or we can bring alpha Molina back from the dead and we can bring Fucking Green got a willum to fill back from the dead There's no reason why we can't bring Tony Stark and in fact Obviously what is going to happen is Tony Stark is going to come back from the dead from one of the universes in the multiverse. Obviously, which also means we can bring Thanos back, which is both kind of fun and also somewhat annoying.

Like, it's a bit annoying, but also I think it will be a lot of fun when they figure out how they're going to bring Iron Man back. They need to do it in a way, if they do it, and if they bring anybody back from the dead, they need to do it in a way where it is a truly one off, we will not be doing this thing because like, I don't think they're going to do that. I think they're going to do, bring them back in a movie and then they're going to.

They're right of them again. No, they're going to bring them back in a movie and then they're going to- Are you afraid of him again? No, they're gonna bring him back in, you know, they're gonna make a new Avengers movie or something and then he's gonna have another movie. Like for sure. There's no way- No, no, no, no, no, no. I mean, I mean, the bringing a back of it all needs to be a one off because, like, if you watch something,

like for example, American Horror Story Coven, a great, great, great version of that show, like it's a great season at the beginning. It's all about mortality, it's all about aging and the way that like women have to, can't mentor each other because they're in competition with each other. It's very interesting.

However, halfway through the season, someone comes back from the dead and it ends up, that's actually really easy to do. And they just like mutter a few words and someone comes back from the dead and it ends up, that's actually really easy to do. And they just like mutter a few words and bring people back from the dead. And all of the stakes are gone. Everything doesn't matter. Nothing makes any sense.

You don't care why these people care. Right, right. It's so dumb. And then you're like, why would you do this to yourself? Why would you remove, not even just the fact that it was the theme of the season, but also why would you just remove stakes in general? If nothing matters, then nothing matters. And the Marvel Universe, everything's about life or death because like it's all about violence,

essentially, or it's all solved with violence. Um, right. And if violence doesn't matter, then you've removed the teeth from your universe. And so they have to be really careful about like making sure it feels special and exceptional and never going to happen again. And they have to decide that that nuclear button that they can't pull it out when they're like, like, if you want more Loki and you killed Loki, you better do flashback scenes because we're not bringing people back from the dead over and over and over. Yeah. Yeah. Because in comic books, you're like, this is a comic book and also different writers are coming in and different arcs,

sometimes just feel like completely different stories, even though they take place in the same universe. It's a different thing. With movies and these actors, I think it will ruin it, if they break those in. I think they get kind of, there is a window to do it in a way to do it, and it has to be,

it just has to be done in a way that feels really I mean, I think in like that actually what annoys me about this about the spider-man movie is what it does not feel like a holistic It doesn't feel holistic what happens like it feels like they kind of threw in this Random idea that like doctor strange would botch a spell. And that is what causes it. But what's weird to me about that is they have they have established in the Marvel universe that there is this whole multiverse concept and there are these multiple timelines and they've referenced them before. And like there are plenty of cracks in the reality that we see where they could go something is happening. We don't know how it's happening. We don't know where it's being created.

We don't know how it's being created, but somehow these realities have gotten into our reality. And I think that you could play up the ongoing narrative of this splintering, out of control, splintering of the universes. But I think it's like, you know, they don't do that. And so it's like, they can't, we can't just have it be, every time you wanna bring somebody back,

there's like somebody does a fun, you know, spotch spell and then you get, you know, Tony Stark shows up. Right? You know, it's like, I think there has to be a better sort of foundation for For the for how you get there. I mean who gives a shit these are comic book movies and at the end of the day as long as people are having a good time You know what whatever But I will here's the thing if Wanda is able to bring her kids back who never existed and were a figman a firm imagination and created through like her constant

Output of magic Faking that they're real and it's a complete delusion, whatever. If she's able to create those children and bring them back and into the world, again, in multiverse of madness, it caps out of the bag, and then it's like, well, I guess, Ali Ali Oxenfree, you know, see you all soon. Well, I think that is it, isn't it? I mean, I think that is it, isn't it? I mean, I think that is there's a little bit of,

you know, yeah, there's a little bit of like figuring out how much they can get away with and how far they're gonna take it, you know? And I don't honestly don't know the answer to that, but at any rate, the movie was a lot of fun. I mean, obviously I want to see the properly. I just am happy to have seen what happens in it. And with it in a decent manner, I mean,

there are several bad cam versions slowing around out there. I managed to get like two of them that were watchable. But horrible experience, I don't recommend it. And just like, really it was just an active desperation. The apparently it's coming now on Home video on February 28th, which is pretty soon, so undoubtedly I'll be purchasing it. At any rate, so what the hell was the Harry Park? We just quickly talked about the Harry Potter thing, which is John Stewart, who is like,

it's so hilarious, because the headline I saw when I first saw this story was like, is this headline from like 2004 or something? It's like John Stewart, it's called JK Rowling anti-Semitic or whatever, you know? And I guess the story is, I didn't really go too far into it, but he was on a podcast or something, and he started talking about how the Gringot's goblins are basically like really weird anti-Semitic

like caricatures and It's 100% true like I just to be very clear. There is no doubt in my mind whether Whether I doubt on purpose, but you never know but but subconsciously both JK Rowling and the people who made the Harry Potter movies took like the bankers of the world of Harry Potter and turned them into pretty obvious like anti-Semitic tropes. There's a star of David on the setter. It's not, yeah, and if you're Jewish, and if you're Jewish, when you read it in the book

and when you see it in the movie, it is, you feel it. It is patently obvious, and you know it. It's like, listen, I mean, you can say whatever the fuck you want, but I've lived in this world as a Jew, and I can tell you, you know it when you see it, and it is, that is what it is. It's subconscious, probably, I don't think people, I don't think JK Rowling hates Jews, I don't, I mean, who knows, she hates lots of people,

but I don't think she's like Nazi. I think she just has a bunch of shit ingrained in her brain and in her like back of her mind that came out in this way. It's like, oh yeah, well, who would the bankers be? Like these little guys with hook noses and I mean, greasy hair. She named the Asian character Cho Chang.

Oh no, the characters names are insane. I'm the French characters. Like fucking the most defense. The French Asian character Cho Chang. I know, the character's names are insane. I'm the French characters. Like fucking the most defense. The French, but also, but I mean, to, in her defense, the French character has an equally stupid name. So black characters named Kingsley Shackle Bolt. No, shut up.

Is that true? Yes. Yeah, I mean, she might have brain damage. Like, I don't really know to say about that. Yeah, so anyway, so John Stewart is like talking about the same experience of every that every Jews had located the thing Which is like yeah, oh yeah, and like I guess her super fans or whatever, you know I don't know newsweek wrote an article that's like John Stewart calls a JK Rowan anti-Semitic Which like obviously is a conflation of what the conversation was actually about

And then he has to like apologize. I don't know. If I'm John Stewart, I wouldn't be apologizing to anybody. I'd be like, you listen, these are anti-Semitic depictions. I don't know what to tell you. Read the fucking book, goodbye. But I will say it's like one of these situations where her fan base, whatever the fan base is that exists,

like ganged up on him, I guess. And he was basically forced from what I could tell to have to apologize for saying something that is- Which sucks. That is obviously obvious to everybody. And is like- Sucks because the person I'm friends with, Jay, who is recording the podcast with him in that clip,

and Jay is somebody that never apologizes or like couches the things that he has to say and certainly didn't do it here and it sucks That like John Stewart because and no faults of John Stewart's but because of like corporate interests and everything else That we have to dance around and be nice to this billionaire like I'm sorry She's not a victim. I want to go out there and say she's ugly That would be you know mean and probably you, road reflect more on my values than hers. But also, you don't need to step in.

She's doing fine. Yeah, I have to prosecute me for calling her ugly. But it's also like, I do think like in the context of the conversation, people are, I mean, it's like a funny conversation from what I can tell, it's like sort of joky, but it's also like one of those things where it's like, when you're having a joky conversation

about things that are definitely true, you know? And- We're saying like, yeah, it's a way of expressing yourself where you're like, I mean, that was pretty anti-Semitic. What's going on in her mind? And it's like, I don't think, I think we, inherent in what I just said, is I don't think, obviously, don't think she sat down and was like,

how can I create a story that'll stick it to the Jews? Right. But I also think she's an English lady, a white English lady who wrote this in the 90s when she clearly just did not have any experience writing people of diverse backgrounds. And what came out is racism and anti-Semitism because that was all she knew

of those races and of Jews, was what she had experienced in the media. And I don't even think that, in the case of the Jews, that she connected that that was what she was doing. But it is what she was doing. And the effect of it and the final product matters. It matters if you end up doing blackface, even if you've never seen blackface

and you've never heard that it's offensive, but you just got the idea, one day to paint your face. If you're in a big popular franchise in blackface, it doesn't really matter if you knew or you didn't know, stop doing blackface because you know now. Yeah, I, I, yeah. It's okay to discuss that.

And it would be okay for her to go on Twitter and say, you know what, I might have been out of my depth in writing characters of every race dancing around these white characters in this universe completely premised on whiteness. I might have been out of my depth. It's okay to say that. I just think and it doesn't make you the worst person in the world. I mean, I get like, I get like not being able to cop till like being like being you know kind of lately anti-Semitic or whatever like I understand like that Might be uncomfortable for you to say. I don't know. Oh up the money's for I just think it's I just think it's Foddy that like John Stewart had to be brought into like had to be like made to apologize to the

JK round audience or whatever Anyhow, but to be clear Just to be clear, just to be clear. You're ruined by childhood. I'd be just be clear. He's correct. It's crazy. It's unbelievable. Like, I couldn't believe it when I saw it in the movie. I couldn't believe it when I read it in the book. It is like truly striking and just absurd.

And like, and again, you know, if you like, we're raised Catholic, you may not, and you know, you're like a bon hair blue eyed, whatever, Catholic dude, you may not, and you know, you're like a blonde hair, blue eyed, whatever, Catholic dude, you may not know what it looks like, because you've never experienced it. Like, you may not know what it feels like when shit is off in that way. And like, you should definitely be able to, like, judge,

I mean, not that these people can, but she'd definitely be able to judge like when you can and can't identify. It's like, I can think- When I tell my dad when my dad is like, I actually don't think that's homophobic. No, this is like, let's defer to the expert here. And one of the, and one of the best, one of my favorite things is that, is that there is a whole genre of like, there's a whole group of like Republican right wing conservative people who are so weirdly excited about and invested in trying to call out when people are being anti-Semitic, like where they will like say to like a Jewish, you know, artist,

like you're being anti-Semitic about this thing or whatever. And it's like, you know what, they're Jewish and you're not. And you need to shut the fuck up. You have no way to say what is and is an anti-Semitic, basically, like that's not your world. Like you don't get to be the arbiter of what it is. And it's like, it's a very interesting tactic. I mean, it happened with me in Ben Shapiro when I was like, he's, I tweeted like he's like the Nazi that helps other,

you know, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,

he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, Slice it any way you want, but those people as soon as humanly possible will turn on the Jews. I mean, Trump is anti-Semitic as fuck. He has made so many statements that are so offensive. Okay? So anyhow, just to be clear, the Republican Party at its core is an anti-Semitic group of people, just like they're a racist group of people at their core.

And it is obvious in all of their rhetoric and all of their talk. But they love to be like, we're pro-Israel, because Israel is a really good staging ground for Middle Eastern wars. And they ultimately, I think some of them are like, well, Jews is going to come back to Jerusalem. That's the Promised Land. It's like, has nothing to do with Judaism. At any rate, they're all very, very to-range people. But I do think like, I had this experience where I tweeted this thing about, I'm a Jew talking about a Jewish experience and people were like, you're being anti-Semitic

against a great Jewish man. It's like, you don't fucking know what I'm being because it's not being said in good faith. It's not good faith. No, it's like, it's like, it's like their desire to turn people into everybody's like a pedophile. Like, they're like, they have this huge, weird heart on for pedophiles and it's like it's like their desire it's like their desire to to turn people into everybody want every is like a pedophile like yeah they're like they have this like huge weird heart on for pedophiles and it's like but they don't

absolutely do not care about child poverty but they really care about abortion but they do not care about the infant mortality rate I just think it's a weird it's just a very weird thread and I assume that that's some of what John Stewart was experiencing was a bunch of people who absolutely do not have the uh... bassist and understanding to speak on whether or not something is or John Stewart was experiencing was a bunch of people who absolutely do not have the basis and understanding to speak on whether or not something is or isn't anti-semitism coming at him to defend their queen, JK Rowling or whatever. The whole thing was just embarrassing and weird and horrible.

And anyhow, again, let's stay offline. But at any rate, at any rate, is there anything else we need to talk about any other big topics that we've? Sure, there are many things. Anything exciting happening in technology, in gaming? I mean, the biggest thing in the world, right? I mean, the biggest news story in the world right now

is wordle. A wordle. I love wordle. I mean,'ll take anything. I love wordle. I'll take anything. It's a low effort, low pressure, total distraction. And I think wordle hits that. It hits it perfectly. It has no ads. It was made out of love. It's a website that anyone can access. It's not some like app that's stealing your, but address book contents to my knowledge. And it's a website that anyone can access. It's not some like app that's stealing your address book contents to my knowledge. And it's not being monetized. And it isn't being changed.

It would be so quick. It would be so easy to be like, everybody's playing this word game. I'm going to turn it into an app. And it's a 99% charge. And everybody can win money. It's very easy to go HQ trivia real fast. And the person isn't.

Oh, well, I forgot about that. Right? It's delightful. It is a delightful thing that I hope nobody ruins. Everybody be cool about it. Let's just play it once a day and not ask for anything else. It's a nice thing. We don't have to change it.

It's good. Yeah, I mean, anyhow, there are all these like copies. I didn't see any of the copies, but they've been shut down. Other people tried to copy it and do what I just said. Yeah, but, but it's a fun game. I don't have a lot to say about it.

It reminds me of the, I mean, it's sort of like the thing, what is the New York Times crossword thing? It's called like spelling B, maybe, I wanna say. It's like a hexagon. It's real annoying. You have to like guess a bunch of different words using like a set of letters.

Have you ever played it? It's fun. No. Painting the ass. Wirtles nice because you like do it, then it's like actually you can't do another one for a while. So just go away. It's the best and we all have to do the same word.

So we can say at the end like, oh fuck that, that was a shitty word. No, I got the other night I had like, I got one in like three and Laura's like, I cannot figure out the subject. Did you do it today? I haven't done it. Maybe I'll do it in real time.

Let me say a little bit. I was gonna say what the word is because it's very annoying. Don't say it, let me see, hold on. Have I done a wordle today? I got, I did something, let me see here. Let me try to guess this wordle word. Here we go, you ready?

Let me start with my, I start with the same word every time it's probably a bad idea. I do that too. Do you? I do audio. Audio. Oh, see, I think. Audio or stare, like staring at something.

Oh, actually, hold on, I guess that's a better one. Okay, let's see. Be great if I got the word straight off the bat. Wow! Wow, none of the letters. Okay, interesting. Yup, this's see. Be great if I got the word straight off the bat. Wow! Wow, none of the letters. Okay, interesting. Yup, this one sucks. Huh.

Okay, let me see. Okay, I got one, wow, I got one letter in the wrong place. Yeah. Oh boy. Seein' four moves, or when you're like, ready to shoot somebody. Oh, anyway, the game's delightful. I love it.

Oh, God. Wow, this is, what is this word? Is it a word? Is it a weird word or is it just like, is it just like, It's a word you know, it's just so specifically chosen to be frustrating for this particular game.

Really? Wow, I got this. This is common letters in uncommon ways. It's a common word. It does something that you're not. Don't give me any. Don't give me any. But you're very surprised. It's today's was tough. Today's was a little bit cheap. This is actually very interesting. I got to say,

okay, well, we'll spend a lot of time on that word off. I get to that later. The thing that's interesting for us to discuss, though, is the copycats of it all, which, you know, I understand that there's a discussion to be had, but I think the answer to me seems very obvious, which is like you did copy this, and you are doing something bad when you steal the idea. But the guy, one of the guys, several wordle apps came out

that were copies of this game that were, their own unique twist, and most of that twist was in-app purchases and unlimited games, because the only answer to everything is more and more and more and charge money. And one of the, the one that kind of broke out the most was called the wordl app, used basically the exact design language of the original

and the same rules and you could pay $30 to play unlimited words and the guy it took off a little bit and people did not know if this was by the original person or not. He was documenting on Twitter being like we're going to the moon blah blah, blah, blah. And then when people brought this up, he was like, well, there's a TV show in the 70s that had a similar premise. And also, you know, word ol' is a thing you people have said before. And also, I didn't mean to steal the design. I just did this in a weekend.

What can you expect? I'm just 25. And it was like, I get from his perspective that he's like, okay, now everyone's yelling at me. I didn't mean to get that, make that happen. But also fuck you, because you did do something wrong and you know it, because you, at the end, you said, I fucked up, I'll never do this again.

His big mistake was talking about it. I mean, honestly, he probably could have gotten way with fucking murder for ages. He could have gotten a way selling that shit on the, on the, on the app store for ages. How do you not do people feel the need to become Twitter's main character. If you're doing something spicy, just don't tweet about it. Don't bring it up. Why would you invite the abuse?

It boggles the mind. Yeah. Uh, well, I mean, you know, people, people need attention. I don't know. It's weird. Oh, you know, the other thing, actually, sorry, just to come back to just the internet, I talked about Rekka Ralph for a second. There's this whole part of that movie where they're like, oh, the comment section, it's like all these like nasty comments about Ralph and it's like, this is fucked up that like, it's like a plot point in a movie that's for children that like, yeah, like the comment sections

are where people are really rude and horrible and mean. It's like, I think we need to interrogate why we have allowed it to be that way and why we are continuing to allow it to be that way. Like, these methods of communication are not, they're not like good. Why are we accepting that that's just how it is? It is not how it is.

In real life, it is not how it is that when you get into a room full of people, that you've got people like being nasty and rude to you. Like that's not real life. That is something that happens on the internet. And it's like we don't want to take any responsibility for it or do anything to actually change it. It's a very bizarre, it's very bizarre. Like I don't know, the world that's depicted, that I see being depicted in that movie,

is one that I do not want my child to be a part of. Like, it's not the internet that I'm interested in being a part of. It's tough because it's something that we recognize, but in, but we shouldn't accept. Right, but we don't know how to fight against it. It's so odd, but it's so odd, you know. It's now just become like a weird little plot point.

Like, oh, you have the comment section, that's where people are horrible. And it's like, that it shouldn't, that should not be like, are the thing about it that we arrive at is like, oh, yeah, that's just a place it's always bad. I mean, this is gonna bring us very quickly to my point that nobody likes what I make,

which is that I just don't think that everybody should be able to comment on everything. I agree. No, I agree. I don't know why we have comments. I don't know why everyone should be able to upload as much video content as they want at all times for everyone to see, and the algorithms will find a way

to push it on somebody. No, I agree. It's fucking insane. It's insane. No, it's just completely insane. The whole thing makes no sense. Like, to think that we're arranging, actually I was just reading,

the a Geotolentina wrote this piece about Instagram face in 2019, which I just saw in my feed, somebody like shared, or whatever. And it's about how the face we see on Instagram and the thing that FaceTune allows is becoming a thing that when, like literally she goes to like a plastic surgeon He's like I like to use face tune to see how we can make your face and it's like

The idea that that is a thing that we're like, okay. Yeah, that's how it is now that that's fine or Normal is nuts and I say this as a very online person who loves the internet and loves technology. Like we have to change, we really do, I mean, I literally have been saying this for a fucking decade, but like something has to change about how we are. Not about the technology, but about how we are with it, you know. Yes, yes, the technology does push these notions on us. But there is a problem with how we understand what it's doing. Like I think at a fundamental level, like we need to understand what the technology's telling us

versus feeling like we are just simply like at the whim of the message, right? Where it's like, you're like, oh, well, it says this, right? Like, that's what it is. But it's like, that's not what it is. It's like, it's doing this for a reason. Like, it exists for a reason. Facetune does what it does.

There are very specific technical and societal reasons where I face tune works the way it does. And it's not like, that's real. It's not real. It's just like, the way the app was developed. And, uh, and just like, anyhow, it's like, this is a, this is a whole thing, but get this sort of you know, I agree with you. And I think it's, you know, it's also like a feedback cycle of that's we're caught in, which is like, well, I'll get plastic surgery so it can look like the filter

that I wanted to look like because of the way that Instagram is built and designed and incentivized. And then Instagram will react to my changed face by pushing me on an audience who has already become accustomed to changed faces. So I now made my audience both smaller and larger and Instagram is trying to compensate for it. And then the filters change and it becomes this trend cycle. And it's like, should what we're chopping our faces up to look like be a trend cycle? Right.

You know, like, should we be using algorithms to advance a trend cycle that happens on our faces? It's an end, but at the same time, you have the right to do whatever you want with your own face. And certainly, I don't think that men should be telling women what they shouldn't be doing to their own faces or their own pictures or whatever else. But maybe we should all have a discussion. Maybe we should all have a discussion

with our own groups and demographics. And maybe we need to reckon with that this isn't a good idea. And like we're not gonna hold individuals accountable, but I think we can hold large organizations and groups accountable in a certain sense. Yeah, you know, it's a strange time. Also, I think the fact that we have been,

I mean, just, you know, technology's different today than it was two years ago. God, we didn't even talk about CES, I just realized, but we can't get into it now, because I actually have to go and you have to go. And unfortunately, the RLX cool, the rest of it, I don't know what to say. Whatever, there are a lot of cars there.

I pity anybody who had to go and get, like literally a bunch of like South Korean businessmen where I have already gotten it. And Tom Holland, don't forget. Did Tom Holland go to CES? He went to CES? Oh, right, he was the son of that. Right, he was the son of anything, I forgot. Did he get COVID though? That's the question. Yes, he had COVID,

but he had it before he went. Oh, okay. I got a lot of it. We don't we got to get we keep Spider-Man healthy. Spider-Man and you know, we got to keep Zendaya healthy. Uh, corporate America is very invested in some diets saying. Now I've heard a debate. Is it Zendaya or Zendaya? I actually don't, I've heard it's Zendaya, but a lot of people say it's Zendaya. I think I have Zendaya, but that's actually not accurate. At any rate, she's wonderful. I haven't seen you for a year yet.

She's great in the new Spider-Man. And... Great and Dune. Great and Dune. She's just in all the movies now which i think is wonderful i like really got confused for a second was like is tom holland and doon i can't remember because him and

timitate chalabay have a very similar vibe they've a sun and moon britney christina thing going on which i like for them beautiful alright well talk about that we're going to talk about that more on the next podcast we get it out here alright do you have a nice thing uh... oh yeah i got a nice thing is real quick yeah, I got a nice thing, but it's real quick, which is I got way, way back into Dead Cells over the break.

Obsessively back into Dead Cells. New DLC. It was a new DLC, but even before that, I didn't even know there was gonna be a new DLC. Just obsessively back into it, it is just such an unbelievably playable game. I cannot say enough about it. And all I want is for the Dead Cells team

to make a Castlevania game. All I'm looking for is for them to be given the reins and to be allowed to make the ultimate Castlevania game for 2022 or whatever, the 2020s. Like, I think they could do such an amazing job with it. I mean, obviously there are components of, oh wow, there are like a whole family of deer racing through the woods that I can see right now

looks completely insane, that was nuts. At any rate, because I have a window that looks onto the woods here, I just dead cells, incredible game, unbelievable replayability. And I just want that team to do a castle of any game. Is that too much to ask? That's my nice thing. Goodbye. I got a CRT TV that is widescreen and it's very large.

It weighs 160 something pounds, which was a whole story for how I bought it home. It was a nightmare. I cried and sat down in the middle of the street. It was the worst day of my life, but I did get it and it only cost me 50 bucks and a day of my life. And it is stunning and it is so satisfying to own. I can't recommend finding yourself

a widescreen CRT if you have the time and space. More. I'm curious. I'm curious like what brand is it? It's a Toshiba. Ideally, it would have been a Sony, but I'll take it to Shiba. Yeah, sure. And it takes HDMI in, which is so interesting because you can plug a PS5 up to this CRT television and have it output in 720p or 1080i.

And because of the way that CRT's look, the hyper-realistic graphics like in the Matrix Resurrection's demo, look like real life. Like an RTX on, it really does look like it's just a movie. I mean, because it's real. Yeah, I mean, I do think there's something, I mean, there's something to degrading the quality a little bit and makes things look slightly more real. I mean, and like a CRT degrades the quality and softens the image, but it also makes it more

vibrant and more, the colors pop in this way. There's a glow that you can't get, oh, lid's a pretty good job, but you can't really get elsewhere. Oh my God, we didn't even talk about the analog pocket, whatever. Oh my God, we did not, holy shit. Okay, great. We'll do an early episode next week so we can get... In any event, get yourself a CRT. Okay, great. We'll do it. Maybe we'll do it. Maybe we'll do an early episode next week so we can get in any event. Get yourself a CRT. It is delightful. I have I have found

so many uses for it. My husband hates it. He's so mad. Yeah. What a nightmare. It's so huge. I mean, I can't believe just the whole thing. He's so mad about it. He should be. He has every right to be and I support him in his anger. All right, let's get out of here. Bye. Bye. Well, as our show for this week, we'll be back next week with more tomorrow. And as always, I wish you and your family the very best, though I've just been told that your family has been attacked by the Green Goblin, but they just need to catch their breath.