Too Scary; Didn't Watch - 100TH EPISODE: Audition and The Amityville Horror (1979)

Episode Date: August 4, 2021

Piano wires, haunted houses, and ONE HUNDRED EPISODES in the can - we're recapping Audition AND The Amityville Horror (1979) in this very special anniversary double episode!We are so thankful that you guys enjoy the show, and hope to keep bringing you episodes until the end of time, love y'all so much.Audition is available on ShudderThe Amityville Horror is available on HBO Max00:00 - Episode starts11:58 - Audition Trivia16:40 - Audition recap01:22:46 - The Amityville Horror trivia01:32:33 - The Amityville Horror recap Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I'm too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have to and we've been doing this for a hundred episodes now. So many episodes. And you know what that means? It's been a hundred years because the way that time works for us. We do one a year.

We are very old. And boy, do we look good. In podcast years, we are a hundred and thirty years old. And for anyone who listens on Apple or anywhere that numbers our episodes, you're probably thinking what? They hit a hundred episodes a while ago.

That's because we post our bonus episodes. This is our for real 100th episode. Trust us. I've got the receipts. You can trust us. Can't believe it's been 100 episodes. I can't believe it's been two years since we started doing this.

It's crazy. And the majority of them have been like over Zoom. I know. I was just seeing that today too that most of the time has been in quarantine, which is so wild. Remember, remember when we could be in person together? You guys, to be honest, like looking looking back on those episodes, I was very drunk for most of them. We were drunk a lot. To be completely honest. So drunk from so many of them. When we were in person, I would just accidentally drink a full bottle

of wine by myself and be like, it's a Thursday night. I should go home now. None the more so than our hereditary episode. Hereditary episode. Listeners. I don't know if you could hear it.

I don't know. You probably couldn't tell. It's probably really hard to tell that every single person in our recording was very drunk. But man, was it fun. So drunk. So drunk. Yeah, we were really drunk. Yeah.

What was our cocktail for that? It was because the cocktail was very intense. It was an almond old fashioned because of Charlie's nut allergy. Almond allergy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That episode really fucking blew my head off.

Just smacked it off on a telephone pole. Yeah. Yeah. So a hundred episodes. It's very cool. And it does feel like the podcast has had, like, several different journeys. Like, first episodes are not the same as these episodes.

And, like, we're two years worth of different people now. It's very... Yeah. It's very crazy. I, like like told the people that I work with about this podcast only recently and they started listening to them

my boss has listened to a few also hi Allie if you're listening to this one but it's part of me is like oh my god I need to like go back and listen to those because now it's like I'm stressed about what you gotta let it go I know I gotta to like go back and listen to those because now it's like I'm stressed about what. You gotta let it go. Yeah, I think just don't.

I know I gotta let it go. Just don't. I have had similar things of like, oh, I should remember who I know who listens to this. But then it's like, I literally can't. I told you every time we record the first 20 seconds, I'm like the visual. I'm like, OK, we're recording. Don't be weird. And then I forget.

And so I can't I can't count on myself to keep track of these things. No. Not at all. What have been our favorite moments? Oh, my favorite episode I feel like is probably the Cabin in the Woods episode because I feel like we laughed really hard. But the problem with that episode is I think we were maybe a little mean to Britney Spears.

I've thought about that. That has haunted me. And I hope that in people going back and listening to that episode is I think we were maybe a little mean to Britney Spears. I've thought about that. That has haunted me. And I hope that in people going back and listening to that one, I hope that it at least comes across that we all that we all love Britney very much. We love Britney so much. And we didn't know then quite what we know now. Also, burning down your own gym with a vanilla scented candle is funny. It is funny. It was also the second time she'd burnt down something with a candle.

Yeah, twice. And look, we love her. We support her. She's not in a she wasn't in a great place then. But it is funny to burn down your gym twice. It's it is funny. Yeah. And we wish her the best.

It was also her delivery when she said it. The way that she delivered it was so deadpan. It was like she was talking about like the groceries she'd bought. She's like, let's burn it down. Yeah, she's got to. She's got to. Yeah, that's one of my favorite episodes, too. What about you guys?

I loved our obviously episode with Eugene, 30 Days of Night. That was a great episode. One of my favorites to go back and listen to. Truly. Laughed so hard at that one. I love, one of my favorite things about that one is how much my mom loves that one. She was texting me afterwards saying this Eugene guy is so funny and

she'll quote that episode to me. She says swing set in Alaska for what? Two weeks? We need to get Eugene back on the pod. We got to. He's a busy man. He's too famous for us now. He's been low-key. He's working a ton.

And nobody deserves it more. He's the best. Nobody deserves it more. I'd love to have him back. I want him to be the richest most famous person in the world if I had it my way Eugene would be the richest most famous person in the world and we would be number two yes collectively collectively number two yeah I loved having Eugene

we've had so many wonderful people so many wonderful people so many people who I love so much have gotten to do our podcast and it's really really special. I like, a memory of mine is, I remember laughing really hard and loving so much when

Joel coined the term correspondent. Great. Getting to do that. I think that was at the Train to Busan episode. I think so. Which also might have been the Piccolini-Caccino reveal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is a big moment for me personally as well

that was huge and the Saw episode Joel really knocked you out of the park for that episode that's the pig face wig face reveal too pig face wig face really good really good

yeah listeners we would love it very much if you, in the comments on this Instagram post or on the Patreon, perhaps, if you tell us some of your favorite moments, favorite episodes, favorite guests. That would be

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some of those people and you know. We do it for the joy, so tell us what gives you joy? And tell us. And the mail. What gives you joy? And the mail. And the fame.

We do it for the mail. So we do it for all of those things. There's a lot of reasons to do it. Yep. Yep, yep, yep. And some, to clarify a few things about this 100th episode so you did select the Amityville horror on

the poll on our Instagram and we did have a mishap in which Henley's file got deleted and so Henley's file got deleted Henley deleted that file it's a mystery nobody could ever figure out how nobody's at fault

it could have been a demon for all we know It's a mystery. It's a mystery. Nobody could ever figure out how it happened. Nobody's at fault. Nobody's at fault. It could have been a demon for all we know. It's happened before. It's definitely happened before. So I am going to edit that episode as best I can without Henley's file. So it'll be me and Emily recapping. There might be some awkward moments where we're responding to Henley, but you won't hear what she says.

It's like a Mad Libs of Henley. You get to imagine what Henley would say. That's fun. I like that. That's really fun. That's going to be included at the end of this episode. I'll put timestamps in the episode description if you want to skip

around or skip or whatever. Whatever you want to do, I'll give you all in the episode description if you want to skip around or skip or whatever. Whatever you want to do, I'll give you all the information that you need. But because it's our 100th episode and we wanted it to be special and obviously we wanted to have Henley here for it. We are recording another one. So this is just a very exciting two for one 100th episode. Very exciting. Mad Lib exciting two for one hundredth episode. Very exciting. Mad Libs, two for one bonus. Everything.

It's going to be great. And so we chose the movie that came in second on that Instagram poll to recap today. And that is Audition. And oh, boy, it's a real doozy. this has been one that i feel like has been on the radar for a while and i'm like i can picture the poster and i'm very scared i know you said that we were really gonna hate some parts of this right you will you absolutely i hate some parts of this wait you do sammy yeah there were some parts that were some of the grossest things I've ever seen. What?

I didn't know it was that bad. I didn't know it was that bad at all, honestly. It's bad. Oh, my God. We just need to dive right in because the tension already is getting to me. Have you seen it before, Sammy? You had seen it. No.

This is my first time seeing it. Oh, no. And I suggested that we also record a video episode for this for our patreon because i feel like your guys's faces are going to be pretty pretty uh priceless at some points of this so join our patreon if you'd like to see the video version of this episode um but okay yeah so audition came out in 1999 directed by takashi mikeike written by Daisuke Tengen based on a novel by Ryu Murakami starring Ro

Ishibashi, Ehi Shina, Tetsu Sawaki and Yun Kunimura sorry about any of those names if they're not right but I did my best you did too beautiful names it is available. Those all sound like beautiful names. Yeah. Yeah.

It is available on our very favorite Shudder.com. Woo! If you want to watch it. Which I'm guessing you guys don't. I have a feeling that's going to be a hard no. A hard pass for me. Yeah. It is.

Especially because it's subtitled. My one escape if I watch a movie that's too scary for me is that I can just like look at the bottom and be like, not really look. If it's subtitled, I can't do that. You got to keep your eyes open for the whole thing. You got to keep your eyes open. That's true. That's true. Hi, everybody.

It is time for our 100th cocktail hour where we will be drinking a Diamond Fizz. Champagne seems like something you drink when you're celebrating an anniversary and the 100th anniversary thing is a 10 karat diamond. So here we are. And to make a diamond fizz you need two ounces of gin, one ounce of fresh squeezed lemon juice, a half an ounce of rich sugar syrup, and champagne. You shake the first three ingredients with ice and strain into a chilled glass and finish it off with champagne. Garnish with a lemon slice.

Cheers and happy anniversary to us all. Some trivia for us. You guys are not going to like this trivia. This is going to give you a little sneak peek. So when the film was screened at the Rotterdam Film Festival in 2000, it had a record number of walkouts. At the Swiss premiere, someone passed out and needed emergency room attention. That's always the, that's like the Eli Roth standard of how good your horror movie is.

If it makes people physically ill to watch. And if you can believe it, this movie is one of Eli Roth's favorites. Boo! Boo! No! Rob Zombie admitted he found this movie to be the most creepy and unsettling of any

horror movie he's ever watched. It is included in the 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die. Nope. I'll die. Yeah, no way. I have that book somewhere, but I have it

from like 15 years ago, so it's probably out of date now, but I should go through it and see how many I've done. You've probably watched so many of those. I don't know, because it's always like movies from the fifties and it's older movies are usually like half of it. And I don't watch them a lot. It's not that I don't like them.

It's that I feel myself getting less and less of an attention span. Yeah. As I'm oversaturated with social media and nonstop news. And I just don't have the attention span for the way movies were back, back in the beautiful pre-social media days. In the early 2010s Time Out conducted a poll with several authors, directors, actors, and critics

who have worked within the horror genre to vote for their top horror films. Audition came in at number 18 on the top 100 list. Okay. And Aud audition has been described as an influence on torture porn the term was invented by david edelston to describe films such as saw the devil's rejects and wolf creek that offer titillating and shocking scenes that push the audience to margins of depravity for them to feel something. Jesus Christ!

Yeah, this is so much worse than I expected. I really didn't know it was like this. Oh, no. Oh, no! I also didn't realize it was torture-porn-y. Man, now I wish I did have a drink. Yeah. You wish we got hereditary-level drunk for this one, too. Man, now I wish I did have a drink.

You wish we got hereditary level drunk for this one, too. Just 150 million percent. To feel less of that, to feel less of that something. Yeah. Are there any children in this in this movie? Um, not really. Okay. It's a confusing answer. There are, but they're not.

It's not in a way that I feel like I have to warn you, like, a trigger warning for bad things happening to kids. I guess, you know what? Honestly, trigger warning for basically everything. There's certainly a trigger warning for, like, sexual assault. Wow. And. Yeah, you know what? One bad thing does happen to a guy. We can't make it through one movie without a bad thing happening to a small child. I'm sorry. Audition influenced American directors such as Eli Roth.

Audition influenced American directors such as Eli Roth. Roth stated that Audition influenced him to make his film Hostel. With the director of this movie, Takashi Miike, even making a cameo as a satisfied customer of the kidnappers who let customers torture their victims. A little bit of a plot spoiler for Hostel. Ew. Yeah. little bit of a plot spoiler for hostile yeah and audition has been read as feminist or misogynistic by different people based on various scenes which i honestly get i feel like there's a case for both and i don't know necessarily that kashimi k was like trying to make it either of those things and

so that's why it's both i don't know okay trying to make it misogynistic he wasn't trying to make it misogynistic I wasn't trying to did I accidentally do that? what? did I reveal something about myself? I don't know did that just happen without me even

trying? oops oops I don't know. Did that just happen without me even trying? Hmm. Oops. Oops. Oops. And this is one that I think we should watch the trailer at the end again. Okay. Great.

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Nothing bad's going to happen to him. Carrying an art project to, he's like in a hospital hallway and he's carrying an art project and it has a note on it that says, get well soon, mommy. And we are cutting back and forth between this and a man at his wife's hospital bedside. She is, looks to be in a coma or non-responsive. And as he is sitting next to her, she dies. We see her flatline

and the little boy walks in just after she has died and him and his dad look at each other and he realizes what happens and then we cut to seven years later and the father and son are fishing. The son

is now about 17. The dad's name is Oyema and the son's name is Shigehiko. They're fishing and they catch a pretty big fish. And as they're taking it home, Shigehiko says it's, you know, too big for them to eat. This family of two, a single dad and his son. So there's like a lot of kind of mentioning, you know, big for them to eat this family of two a single dad and his son so there's like a lot of kind of mentioning you know there's something missing in our household and at dinner that night as they can't finish their fish shigeko says like maybe it's time for you to look for a wife again and get married again like you've seemed lonely and, like, you're looking really tired. Like, I feel like it's time for you to start dating again. They also have a very cute dog.

Of course. A little beagle named Gangu. Okay. You know what? I'm going to go out. I don't want anything to happen to this dog. That's not what I'm trying to say. But beagles aren't my favorite kind of dog.

Okay. Fuck this beagle. Can I say that? It's just like some people really love beagles. And for me, it's just like, fine. I'm so sorry if you're listening and you have a beagle. It's not my favorite dog. I think everyone's allowed to have a least favorite dog.

Can I, I don't like pugs. And that's something that people sometimes get mad about. But it's the truth. And if you're listening and you have a pug, I'm sorry. It's your truth. And it's the truth. And that's fine. I have a pretty controversial

opinion about dogs, which is that I don't really like any dog that has short hair. Too short of hair. Interesting. You're going to get a dog? Get one that's like

a fluffy dog. Why waste a short-haired dog? Why waste your time? Why waste your time with a short-haired dog? It might as well be soft, right? If you're going to cuddle it, do you not care about cuddling? Do you want to cuddle something with short hair?

I don't know. I told this to Tim recently, and he looked at me like I was a sociopath. So I'm sure. I think it makes perfect sense, Henley. Thank you. I think so, too. Anyway. All right.

So none of us like this dog. 100 episodes in, we're really letting loose with whatever. People aren't going to like us anymore. Time to show the real us. We hate dogs. Yes! And, okay, so

Oyema goes to work the next day, and his assistant comes in and, or no, it's as he's leaving work, his assistant comes up to tell him something as he's about to get into the elevator. And she says that she's getting married and she says it in kind of a way that almost seems like she's expecting him to be mad. And he looks a little taken aback by it but he's like oh that's great congratulations and we're kind of wondering is there some sort of romantic history here like what's going on and she she uh leaves him he gets into the elevator and just kind of has a look on his face like pensive i don't know just he's kind of thinking about that um then after work he

gets a drink with his friend yoshikawa who is in the film industry and this is like a very it's like these two men at the bar they're in their mid 40s there's a group of women laughing in another part of the bar and yoshikawa says like oh like such common women like where are all the good where have all the good women gone like everyone every woman is just like i don't know it's so common yeah common they're having the same conversation we're having about dogs exactly Exactly. But about women. Exactly. I think this is a feminist movie. Yeah, so it's hard. It reads feminist to me.

And so Oyama says that he's thinking about getting married again and Yoshikawa asks what kind of woman are you looking for? And basically has this laundry list of qualities he wants in a woman. And he's like, well, she's got to be beautiful.

And I'd like her to be have some accomplishments under her belt, some like talents. Like I think his his previous wife was a very skilled pianist. Previous wife was a very skilled pianist. He says something about how having like a good skill gives you confidence and maturity. And so he wants someone that has something that, yeah, something that like a passion, basically. And not that they have to be like super successful because of that but just he thinks that fosters maturity and

but he's saying you know I wish I could just meet a whole bunch of women so I could find the perfect one and Yoshikawa says I've got an idea sounds like what you need is an audition. And he says, we'll set up an audition and make the part for a woman age 20 to 35, which

Oyama is in his 40s. His son is 17. That's right. his son is 17 that's right um and so Yoshikawa like brings out an old script that they had

about a ballet dancer and says this will be it'll be a real film and so it won't be under false pretenses like this will be a real thing like we'll try to get funding for this film and obviously whoever let's have a whole film just so you can meet a bunch of women let's it's quite a wild proposition possible way to do it yeah yeah this is not efficient at all but okay no and so

he says obviously whoever gets the part like wouldn't date you like she's going to be out of your league she'd be busy doing a movie but yeah probably one of the ones that make it to the final round that that's so maybe 10 out of a thousand you can choose from them which is just so funny to be like they'll obviously date you yeah before Tinder. What if she chooses you? How does that work? Also, they've just come up with The Bachelor. Yeah. But also lying to all of the women.

Yeah, with the women not knowing that they're in the game. That's also true. Okay, fine. So they play the casting call on the radio and we see Oyama in his car, like listening to it. And we also see a little girl in her room listening to it. It's basically saying the next. Can't remember what what it says, but it's basically like, could you be the next famous the next Julia Roberts? Come try out for this part and find out.

So a bunch of women applied to this part and Yoshikawa sends Oyama a basically stacks of portfolios of what these women have sent in with like their headshot, their resume, and they each had to write an essay about why they want this part. Jesus Christ. pick 30 and they'll basically schedule those 30 on the same day so you can come in on your scheduled day and see all of the women that you want to um that you pick and he says don't just go by the picture read their essay right let's be good about this let's just go with a picture we got to make this process work and so he's uh going through all of these different portfolios at his desk at home. And he has a photo of his dead wife on his desk and he like turns it around like he looks a little ashamed that he's doing this in front of her. Turns it to face away from him and gets back to it and comes across the photo of this girl that catches his eye. Her name is Asami Yamasaki.

She is 24. And very beautiful. She has 12 years training in ballet. But broke her hip or something and had to give up ballet. And so her essay is about how she says she doesn't know if she could be an actress, but she was drawn to the part because it's about a ballerina. And she said, you know, I was a ballerina for 12 years and losing ballet. Was like, in a way, accepting a type of death. Like a part of me died when I lost that part of my life.

And it's written very beautifully. And Oyema is very taken with it. And this is clearly the maturity he's looking for. You know where else you get maturity? Age. A woman your age. Yeah. Age.

Yeah. So, and I think he's also seeing a kind of this like reflecting on death and accepting death. He's comparing that to losing his wife. And so relates to that. So this is clearly. It's hidden home. It's hidden home. This is his top choice. And also during this time, we see Shigehiko, his son has a girlfriend over and he doesn't see that his dad is going. He doesn't know that his dad is doing this, but he can see that his dad seems kind of excited and he is happy for him. Like you dating again like this is so great

and Shigehiko has this in a way the women don't know but could be and so Shigehiko has a girlfriend over as well

so it's like father and son, both smitten with their respective ladies, one who is completely unaware. And then we get to audition day and there's the 30 chosen women come in. And Asami is near the end. She is like number 28 so we basically just get a montage of yoshikawa asking really inappropriate questions to these women that is it's like has nothing to do with an audition like what kind of men do you like what kind of men do you hate um i wrote down some of the questions. What does your father do? What does your father do?

Yikes. Have you ever had loveless sex? Would you work in the sex industry? Would you do sex scenes? It's gross. The whole thing is very inappropriate. Have you ever had loveless sex? Ew, I hate men.

And I also just hate, I hate the world we live in. Yeah. It's so gross. Yeah. This is very, like, patriarchal. Like, we get to decide which of these young, beautiful women we get to date. And marry. Ew.

Ew. And Oyama is not really asking any questions in this. He's just watching. And then eventually we get to Asami.

She comes in and Oyama perks up and he's very excited to see her. And this is the first one that he asks her questions. First, Yoshikawa asks her, do you have an agent do you have representation and she says there says um not an agent but there is a man at a record label that looks after me and his name is mr shibata i haven't been in contact with him uh in a while um and they say like where exactly does he work and she gives him gives them that information and they ask her what do you do for work and

she says i work a few nights a week at a bar that is owned by my friend um and they ask her like how she's able to live off that. She says, oh, I'm like, I don't need to be rich. I just want to like modest life. Just want to be happy. And Oyama's like, you can see just the stars in his eyes. He is falling in love. And he chimes in and says, can I ask you about your ballet?

And she says, can I ask you about your ballet? And she says, yes. And he basically just says, I read your essay and it was very beautiful. You sound like a really old soul. Basically, just goes on and on about how much he loved her essay. None of it is a question. And he just says how much he loves the essay. And she looks like, please. And she's like, oh, thank you so much. That's very sweet of you. And that's the end of the audition. They thank her and she walks out. And Yoshikawa is kind of looking at Oyama like he knows he must like her more than the others because he is acting different with her.

And Oyama says, like, what do you think of what did you think of her and uh yoshikawa said she made me pretty nervous i can't quite put my finger on it but something seemed a little off about her she's like comes in sitting up very straight and she's wearing all white and she speaks really softly um but so she she immediately unnerves yoshikawa Ooyama, not at all. He's like, I think she's great. I think she's perfect. Like, we don't need to see the rest of the women. Like, this is, she's the one.

Oh boy. Oh boy. So, and later that night, Ooyama calls Asami that she, he has the phone number from her, um her portfolio that she sent in. And he asks if they can talk later. And basically asks to set up a meeting. And she says she's free the next day. So they go and meet up at a little restaurant. at a little restaurant and or no before that

Yoshikawa calls Oyama to say I just checked her reference that she gave about Mr. Shibata Mr. Shibata went missing 18 months ago that's pretty weird and Oyama's like

not my problem yeah I love her down and so at their lunch or wherever their little date is it is the first thing I will say though it's like she could have just said no I don't have an agent right

be like yeah it's this guy don't look him up yeah it's a obscure man from a record label probably not a big label It's a record label A record label, yeah Are you a singer?

Or like, what's, okay Yeah, it's weird But so, Oyama asks her about that first thing When they meet and says By the way, we like checked in Mr. Shibata Like, how do you know him? And she says She kind of bows her head looking a little embarrassed

and she says you know someone told me it would be good to say that I had representation so I didn't mean to lie but I have I did know him but I haven't seen him in years but I just thought I should say someone so I seemed more professional and Oema's like

great I knew there was going to be an explanation perfect and So I seemed more professional. And Oema's like, great. I knew there was going to be an explanation. Perfect. And she seems very smitten as well on this meeting. And when they get up to leave, she asks him, can we do this again sometime? Like, I haven't had anyone to talk to. This was so nice. Like, I've been alone for so long.

It's been really nice to be able to. This was so nice. I've been alone for so long. It's been really nice to be able to have a talk with you. And so they both seem pretty smitten. And the next day, he meets up with Yoshikawa to talk about it. And again, Yoshikawa is saying you know I don't know I've got a bad feeling it just seems weird and like none of her references added up and just like go easy on it and like don't call her for a bit like wait a few days at least at least like settle down a bit and oyama says like okay um like but he's very pretty certain he's like if she's trouble like i'll be able to handle it and i think i trust my own judgment better than i trust other people's judgment so i'll make that and this thing we did was good and smart and i stand and i stand by it yeah i kind of thought yoshikawa was the one who was

gonna end up being problematic, but so far it might seem like... He's the voice of reason all of a sudden. He might be the voice of reason right now. Yeah. So, we see Oeima kind of, that night, looking at the

phone, looking at her phone number, and he is holding himself back from calling her. You can see that he really wants to call her, but he doesn't. And we then see her in her apartment. It's like an empty apartment, no furniture, with just the phone on the floor, and she's just sitting straight up staring at the phone. Oh, great. Fun fun that's fun and there is

a large sack in the room that looks like it could contain a person it's a person-sized sack as soon as you said a large sack i was like there's nothing but a body in there. Nothing but a body in that sack. And we see him go to work the next day. He keeps looking at that phone and deciding not to call. It's hard for him. He really wants to call her. He doesn't call her again the next day. Again, we cut to her

still sitting, just staring at the phone. We see him looking at his phone at nighttime, not calling. Next morning, or next night after work, he is in his office, stares at his phone, and finally decides to call. And we see her in the same spot, hunched over as if she's just fallen asleep sitting up and it's this very creepy shot of her spine like we get a above shot just her her spine curled over as she's kind of sleeping sitting up and as the phone rings we get go to a close-up of her hair or

her face kind of covered by her hair and she just slowly starts smiling. Then the phone rings. Oh my god! And lifts her head up and we see a wider view of the whole room and the sack starts moving and it is in fact a person inside of it

and they're kind of grunting and moving around like the phone has woken them up. And she answers it. And they make a plan to meet up again. And so they go, I guess, the next day to on another date. And she says, I can't stop smiling. I'm so happy that you called.

I thought I would never hear from you again. You might think that I sound like some clingy woman, but I just I really enjoyed our time together last time. And I really thought I might not hear from you again. So I'm like, so happy that you called. And this is going to be such a long haul. Like we're just aware it's going to get so bad. It's going to get bad. It it's gonna get so bad it's gonna get bad it's gonna get it's gonna get so bad yep um so he asks her about her family and she says they don't talk much but they're fine she says we're a pretty average family we're not super close but also we don't fight or anything and he asks her about the bar that she works at. She says it's called the Stone Fish. And he asks if he could come by sometime to visit her while she's working. And she says, I wish you could,

but the owner tends to, likes to meddle in my personal life. And I think that if you came, it would be just annoying for both of us because she kind of likes to insert herself into my personal life. And he says, OK, that's fine. I want to respect your boundaries.

That's no problem. And then it cuts to them on another day. We get we're getting kind of a montage of them going on multiple dates as they're getting to know each other on another date. date she's talking about how ballet was uh her life helped her get through difficult times and losing it was really really difficult for her and he tells her you know it'll be hard to get over but one day you'll find life is really beautiful and worth living and that's why people you know push through these times he's of course uh relating this from his loss of his wife and how hard it was to get over that but he has found reason to keep living and she's touched by this and says you understand and accept me like no one else ever has um and on one of these

dates he says i'll give you a ring. And she says, I look forward to it. So we see that they are, um, at a point where they're discussing getting married. Do you think, just now I was reminded of, I was about to ask a question that really reminded me of how those guys, those days. Do you think it would be so easy to just like trick a man into thinking you're perfect? Oh, to like catfish a man kind of? Yeah, do you think it would be very easy? It was reminding me of Gone Girl.

Yeah, I think it would be very easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're right. I think it would be easy. Yeah, you just non-stop compliments and yeah and like i've never felt this way before wow it's you're making me see me are you just you just act super interested in any everything they're interested in and that's it it'd be so easy i don't think it would be easy for me personally

no no it would be like for me personally. No, no. It would be like if you had to do a situation. Yeah, if someone was like, do you think that you could? Not do you want to and will you? But like, could you? Yeah. Of course. I think that I could. Yeah, of course. Of course you could.

Any woman could. Not any man, but most men. Gone Girl is, I think, my favorite book of all time. Dang, I haven't read it in so long, but it makes me want to revisit it. Reread it. It's great. Because that's what she does. That's what she does. She plays

the cool girl, and she is acting the entire time of their courtship and beyond. And it's just written so well. You'd be very interested in everything they're interested in and you look hot all the time but go

I wish I was hot like cool hot girls and they're like oh my god she doesn't even know she's so hot. I have the perfect woman. Easy. None of us are going to do that. We're not going to do it. We're not going to do it. We're not going to do what this person does in this movie or what Rosamund Pike does in Gone Girl.

Just know that we could. I'm glad we settled on that. Me too. Me too. I'm glad I brought it up. I feel good about it. No regrets. Over here.

Oyema tells his son about her for the first time. He reveals, like, I've met a woman. I think I am going to ask her to marry me. We're going away this weekend. I'm going to ask the question there. His son is really happy for him. And I think Oyama says, like, I'll introduce you to her and I'll introduce you to her soon. Amos says like I'll introduce you to her and I'll introduce

you to her soon and his son says you know I'll tell you if she's the one because you're in love so you're not thinking straight so like I'll be the better judge and they share a nice smile like we're all just so happy and everything is

so good and it's gonna stay that way like it always does it's's not at all going to switch right pretty soon here in a second. Okay. Oh no. So they go away for the weekend.

They go to a very beautiful hotel, kind of an ocean front hotel and they arrive in the evening and Oyama's kind of saying his plans for the night like there's an art gallery nearby and there's a good restaurant near it so we can do that and as he's saying this she just turns the lights off in the room and gets naked and gets into bed and he kind of is stunned and doesn't really know what to do and sits in the chair across the room from her.

She eventually says, come here. And he walks to the side of the bed. She's covered herself with a sheet. So he's standing beside her. And she says, I want you to see all of me. And she lifts the bottom part of the sheet to reveal she has two burn scars on her inner thigh. And she says, I burned myself when I was a child. I want to show you everything about me. I want you to know me. And he is moved by this, this vulnerability of hers. And she looks at him and says, I want you to love me and me alone. No one else but me. And he nods like, yep, I will. Which is like a stress.

What a question to ask of someone. Me and me alone oh my god so then they she pulls him into the bed and they have sex and then he wakes up

in the middle of the night to the phone ringing and answers it and it's the hotel concierge saying your acquaintance or whatever has left. And so I just want to make sure that you're staying for the weekend. And we look over and Asami is gone. And he is just alone in the hotel room. Kami is gone and he is just alone in the hotel room. He's super confused. He goes home. He meets up with Yoshikawa again, asks him if he can help him find her. And he said, no, I told you like everything on her resume was all kind of dead ends.

Like I couldn't reach anybody on it and so he ama looks again through her portfolio and it says the name of the ballet studio that she she went to for 12 years so he decides he'll go to the ballet studio and he he gets there and it is boarded up Looks like it has been closed for quite some time. But he hears piano coming from inside. And so he's kind of yelling through the window. Hello. And he pries off some of the boards that are boarding it up enough to be able to slide the door open and walk inside.

Oh, God. And inside we see a man in a wheelchair playing piano. And this man's vibe is very creepy. He's got incense burning, like the long sticks of incense.

Like a bunch of them burning. That would be too much smell. I know. It's a lot. One of those is often too much smell I know it's a lot of those is often too much one is too much when I usually got a blow out or put in the other room it gets overwhelming too quickly there's nothing that's the scariest part of this movie so far yeah just

leave leave right away too much smell too much incense so comes in and says like hi excuse me. I am looking for someone. I'm wondering if you can help me find her. Her name is Asami.

She used to do ballet here. And the man, without turning around, just starts laughing. Oh, no. Starts laughing and then slowly turns around and says, have seen her and wayma says yes and the man laughs some more he basically just asks a question and then laughs and laughs he says have you heard her voice yes he laughs have you touched her body wayma looks uncomfortable like this is an intrusive question and he's getting creeped out and the man says have you made love to her how was it did you smell her and because me i love smell me i love smells i can't get enough of smell i'm all about smells smells um and then we get a flashback of young asami like a seven-year-old asami doing ballet

dancing around in this room and then we see this man kind of crawling out of his wheelchair with the incense sticks and he grabs her leg and burns her on the inner thigh with them and so these that's where she got her scars and wait wait so the ballet when i'm confused where did this man come from she was just doing ballet by herself and this man just appeared out of nowhere and burned her at this point i I thought he was the ballet instructor or owned the studio or something. But we will get an answer a little later. He burned... So her burn can't be that big.

From incense? Yeah, it seems weird to burn someone with incense. It's big. It's like the whole incense is basically on fire so it's like two eight inch long strips of burn okay all right

yeah and it's upsetting so it's clear that whoever this man is abused her as a child and we flash back to present day of Oyema in this studio and the man stands up and we see And we flash back to present day of Oyema in this studio. And the man stands up and we see that he has prosthetic feet that are so gross.

They almost look like fake skin that's like stitched up. It looks like something out of like Texas Chainsaw Massacre feet. And they're attached to little boards on the bottom that are like little shoes, little platforms or something but they're just never seen prosthetic feet like this. Terrifying. They're scary and he

basically tells Oyama go away, get out of here. Oyama's freaked out, he leaves and he then decides to try to check out the stone fish the bar that she says she works at so don't don't do that buddy buddy buddy buddy so he goes and he tracks it down and finds it. It's also closed down. There's nobody there, but there's a neighbor that comes out that lives right next

door to it and kind of says, Closed down just like closed for the day or like not in operation? No, not in operation. And so we see Oyama trying to get inside of it and the neighbor guy... But you gotta stop! They don't want you in there. What are you doing? Do you think she's just gonna be hanging out in there? Just like, oh, you gotta stop. They don't want you in there. What are you doing?

Do you think she's just gonna be hanging out in there? Just like, oh, you found me in my closed down former place of work. The first one was bad. Yeah. Yeah, the first one was really bad. Okay, ma'am. So this neighbor comes out and says,

oh, that's it's been closed down for over a year. The owner was murdered. And and it's really confused. And it's like, well, do you know a Sammy that worked there for three? She used to work there three nights a week. Just like my dude. Yeah, she was lying to you.

She's very much lying to you. And of course, this guy's like, no, I don't remember you she was very much lying to you and of course this guy's like no I don't remember it was usually just the owner she usually works there by herself who once again was murdered and who you were told recently is not dead

so let's put two and two together here so Oima then asks why was she murdered? What what what do you know about the murder? And he says it was something to do with her lover, who was a music producer, something which. Could could that be Mr. Shibata?

Probably. And he says the body was cut up into pieces. And because this building is at kind of an angle, we saw blood pouring out of the front door of the bar because of the slant. And when the police came, the strangest thing is that they found three extra fingers, an extra ear, and an extra tongue. And... What the fuck?

Oyema has, like, a vision of it, like, pictures it, and it shows, like, a tongue flopping around in a pool of blood with fingers and an ear in it. And he, like, gets super freaked out and, like, stumbles backwards. And like stumbles backwards. And then we cut to a POV outside of Oyama's house. And a POV just watching as his housekeeper leaves, basically feeds the dog and leaves. And so now the house is empty. And we see this POV go inside of the house and find the photo of his uh dead wife on his desk and like slams the photo down like this photos made her mad and then goes downstairs and fine and looks at his um bottle of like nice whiskey and then we

we hear a voicemail from Shigahiko his son saying that he's out for the night he's staying at a friend's house um and don't forget to feed Gangu when he comes out of hiding I couldn't find him and

so Ooyama comes home to this. He's had quite the day. He pours himself a big old glass of whiskey. Sits down. Starts, takes one sip of it. And then immediately starts feeling funny.

And kind of looking around. And we see his fingers kind of twitching a little bit. Like this sip of alcohol is hitting him a lot harder than it should. And then he stands up and is kind of stumbling, trying not to fall. He makes it to the doorway and falls backwards and like hits his head and it begins this series of hallucinations that are somehow also factual things it's a little confusing so it goes first back to their first date as he's asking about her family and she says her parents divorced when she was young and she was sent to live with her uncle when she was seven and that she was abused by him and his wife.

His wife would give her cold baths in the winter. She would get pneumonia. His wife one time pushed her down the stairs, broke her shoulder and eventually the police figured it out and she

was sent to live back with her mother but her mother was remarried and her stepfather hated her and she says my stepfather was in a wheelchair he didn't have any feet and he was also abusive to me so this is

we're putting together that that was her stepfather at the did he not put that together when he met this man who was in a wheelchair with no feet i um i think yeah pretty huge coincidence i well another man in a wheelchair with no feet yeah yeah maybe he did i don't know but is the idea that he's just been like so enamored with her all this time that he's not picked up on the clues sort of but there are things that are still coming that are things

that there's no way he would know about that he is still learning through a hallucination oh okay sure sure sure so she talks more about her stepfather says that she would hide in her closet all day long and not make a sound

until her mother came home. And she says, dancing. He says, like, oh, my God, you've been through so much. And she says, dancing calmed and purified my ugly feelings. And that's probably why I didn't kill myself. And he's looking at her and says, I think you're wonderful. And he's looking at her and says, I think you're wonderful. And as he says that, he notices his wife at the table next to him saying, darling.

And he looks confused and then gets up and starts introducing his wife to Asami. His wife's name is Ryoto. And he's like, Ryoto, this is Asami. And Ryoto looks at him and says, not her, not her. Like, don't marry her. Anybody about her, like, please don't marry her. And then he is all of a sudden in Asami's

house where we have seen her staring at the phone with the sack in there. asami asami is there and looks at him and says i want you and like aggressively goes for him starts ripping off his pants starts performing oral and then he looks down and it's all of a sudden his assistant who and it's all of a sudden his assistant who came up to him earlier telling him that she was getting married and she's crying and she says it was a mistake wasn't it like i thought you actually liked me you slept with me once i thought it was going to go somewhere but it didn't mean anything to you did it and he says i'm I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

And then it becomes his son's girlfriend. And she is trying to go down on him and he's trying to push her away. And as he is stumbling away, he trips over the body in the bag. And we hear it moaning and he comes back toward it to untie it and out crawls a man oh boy you guys no

don't even tell us I gotta tell you but it's not good so out comes a man with no feet missing three fingers missing an ear and missing a tongue and so he can just he's just making these horrible moaning sounds uh-huh and um and then that's it and then that's it the roll credits and that's all you

have to say I wish I wish Emily I wish that were the I wish that were the case but unfortunately there's more I have to say okay so he's horrified by what he sees this this man

and is kind of crawling backwards and then in the kitchen we see Asami making herself vomit into a dog food bowl. And she throws up into this dog food bowl and then brings it to the man who like inhales it. It's like, cause he doesn't have a tongue. So he's just going to like inhaling vomit. Oh my God.

It's so gross. It's like one of the worst things i feel like i've ever seen it's so bad and i mean ew i hate this so much and it's they show everything so they had a man with no tongue or at least somehow made it look like it. Like he has stitches in his mouth with no tongue and... Oh, stop. Emily, why are we doing this to ourselves? I don't know. I don't know. We've done it 100 times, Hanley.

100 times. This is particularly bad, though. This is really bad. This one's... This is bad. And then it flashes to or it changes to seven-year-old asami sitting next to this man slurping up the vomit and she like looks back at uh oyama and he's horrified look watching this scene happen and then it cuts to um again the stepfather crawling towards her with the incense in his hand saying dance you bitch dance bitch and it becomes adult uh asami again

and she sits down kind of ritualistically spreads her legs to the same part that he burns her at and lets him burn her she screams then oyama kind of runs to try to help her saying asami and um then it changes to a different room and we're back in the room with the piano at the ballet studio with the stepfather playing piano and we see asami walking in behind him with a piano wire oh god oh god oh no i don't want to know and we got to stop here i mean you can guess what she's going to do. She wraps the wire around his head. He does not react. He kind of lets her. He can feel that it's happening.

And she says, as she wraps it around his neck twice and starts pulling on the ends to tighten it and it starts slicing into his neck, he continues to play piano. slicing into his neck. He continues to play piano. And she says, this can slice through bones so easily. And why? Why? And he says, I think you're wonderful.

And then she slices his head off and it rolls forward onto the piano. And we go back to Oyama, like waking up from this hallucinatory sequence back in his house where he has fallen over kind of in his living room. And he can't seem to move. And he's looking around and sees through an open door. Asami, getting dressed in some kind of rubber gloves and a rubber apron,

looks like real bad doctor gear. Spooky doctor outfit. A spooky doctor. Oh, no. This is so gross. Yeah. Does it get a lot worse? it doesn't get a lot worse but it kind of stays at this level of bad for the rest of it but it's all it's it's this is kind

of the final scene oh this is the final scene oh wow okay okay so we're at the final scene we've made it how far into the movie are we right now that's part of what's interesting about this movie is it's two hours long and for the first hour it kind of plays like it could be a romantic comedy of like these two zany guys setting up an audition to find a girlfriend and so i'd say the part where she is sitting and smiling as the phone rings is the first kind of creepy moment that we know that this isn't a romantic comedy and that's after the halfway point so it's

a pretty slow burn until this final sequence which it's about the last half hour that it's all bad it's all bad in the last half hour that it's all bad. It's all bad in the last half hour. Okay, alright. Alright, let's go.

Alright, we can do this. We can do it. So, he sees her through the doorway gearing up with some creepy doctor gear and sees at her feet a dead Gongu. She has killed a dog. We didn't care about that dog though, so

who fucking cares? Eagles. Short-haired dog. Who fucking cares? Who the fuck cares? She comes out and lays down a big kind of tarp thing,

rolls him onto it, explains to him, you can't move, you're paralyzed, but you'll still be able to feel everything that I'm about to do. And in pain, there is truth. You can't hide from pain, the truth of pain or something like that. She's basically saying, you lied to me. You're just like all the rest of them. You said you'd love love only me and you don't you will have love in your heart for your son and for your ex-wife or your dead wife and she is not happy about that so oh well she has dealt with some serious trauma in her life so yes so she um okay okay she gets him he's laying on his back he can't

really move um and she's filled she fills up a syringe with something this is the cover shot of her just kind of looking over her shoulder with the syringe very creepy and she comes around to his head grabs his tongue and injects the syringe into his tongue while he's like screaming um i will say his like being paralyzed is not a full paralysis seemingly he can kind of twitch and and uh talk and a little bit groan and yell. So it's a fictional thing anyways. I guess there's nothing that can paralyze you and make you still feel things in this way. But I feel like I've seen other movies where you're fully paralyzed. That's a relief.

That's a big relief. That's a huge relief. Yeah. So she injects something into his tongue, which I kind of assume is something that will then help her cut out his tongue, because we know she likes to do that. But first, we see that she has a big container of needles, which look like... They're like five-inch needles. And as someone who just started going to acupuncture i was really not pleased with this scene so she's talking about pain and she says your stomach is the most sensitive part

and she opens his shirt and oh no we see her press a needle into his stomach. He's screaming and she's pushing it pretty deep. And she says, kitty, kitty, kitty, which means deeper, deeper, deeper. And she's saying it very gleefully, like she is having a great time. And she is just one at a time sticking a needle into his stomach going, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty. It sounds like kitty, kitty, kitty, but it's k-i-r-i and he is um screaming in pain but he can't move and she basically gets like 20 needles into his stomach oh my god it's a lot oh my god i'm just shutting down right now i'm fully emotionally shutting down yeah i've disassociated it's yep it's happened proud of you hen gets a little bit worse here so she's

straddling him and after she has 20 needles in his stomach she scoots forward past all of the needles like smushing them all to a flat angle, which is like the fucking... Oh my god, I cringe. Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. How am I gonna go to acupuncture? It's just so bad. No, no, you can't. He screams, so she basically sits on top of the needles

and then has more needles, and she starts poking them into his face and doing this and kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty. And she brings up his son again and basically says, if Shigahiko suffers, you'll see. You'll see what I feel or something like that. And like, I gave you my entire self and you didn't give me your entire self. You lied to me and pulls back to reveal she has been sticking the needles right under his eyes and she says

the skin below your eyes is the other most sensitive and it shows all of it like it's it we're seeing it like and it doesn't look fake. It looks bad. And so he now... She gets up and we see that he's just got needles sticking all out of his stomach and his face, blood coming out of him. And she goes over to her little doctor bag, grabs what looks like kind of a handcuff thing and puts it around his ankle like a like she's making a tourniquet and she then pulls out oh god her piano wire oh god oh no and says you can't go anywhere without your feet no no no wraps the piano wire a couple times around his ankle and starts going no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

wait this is so bad this is so bad and this again it shows it this is like no what you imagine in saw saw doesn't show it this shows it and it's she cuts the foot off completely off and like tosses it it hits like the window it's pretty funny she's again gleeful smiling she's loving this she's having a good time and she says um my right foot next uh and starts moving the tourniquet to the other ankle to cut off that foot. And as she's doing that, we hear Shigahiku come home and say, dad, my friend got sick. It was this whole thing. And so I'm home.

Oh, no. And we see Oema, like, trying to yell. He can't yell, but he just looks completely panicked. And Asami, like, quickly, we see her move to her bag and grab some sort of spray, like, maybe a spray that would make someone go unconscious or something. And she goes and hides in a little closet in the room. hides in a little closet in the room. And Shigahiku walks in, sees his dad, and is just super freaked out.

Dad, what's happening? And we see Asami come out from the closet behind him. Shigahiku can't hear her. And Oyama's trying to say, she's right behind you his eyes widen and just has Asami sprays Oyama wakes back up in the bed the night that they had sex

and she is next to him and he like is freaking out and like pulls the sheets up to look at his feet he's got both feet. He is looking at her. She's asleep.

He's, he's doesn't know what's happening. He goes to the bathroom. He's like splashing water on his face. She walks in and says like, are you okay? Is everything all right? He's like, yeah,

yeah, it's fine. It's totally, everything's fine. And they go back into bed and she says, I've been thinking about your question. I've decided to accept your proposal. I am so happy.

Is it like how can one girl be so happy? I feel like it's not fair that I can be this happy. And Oyama's face is just stunned like he's in shock. Doesn't know what's happening. just stunned like he's in shock doesn't know what's happening asami lays on his stomach and they're falling asleep his eyes close and then you hear kitty kitty kitty and he wakes back up where he was with shigahiku uh just having been sprayed Asami, but she kind of sprays in the wrong direction, and he is able to whip away from her, and looks like, what the fuck are you doing? And she dives at him again, trying to spray this in her face.

He runs from her, runs upstairs, and kind of trips on the top stair, and turns around to face her as she's coming at him with the spray, and he kicks her backwards off the stairs. And it's like one of those shots, you know, in action movies where it shows it from like four different angles. And it's like pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. And she fucking flies off this staircase and lands basically on her neck. And again, it shows it.

And we see kind of a bone, not broken the skin in her neck, but there is a big lump in her neck and again it shows it and we see kind of a bone not break not broken the skin in her neck but there is a big lump in her neck where we can see that the bone has broken and Shigahiku runs downstairs runs to his dad his dad is able to say call the police

call the police and he does he says gives him the address there's been an accident my dad's badly hurt there's a woman that's hurt um an accident sir oh yeah there's been no accidents and um we see oyama and asami they're both lying motionless on the floor in a way that they can make perfect eye contact. So they're facing each other from her at the foot of the stairs and him in the living room. And she's looking at him and she says in her very kind of angelic voice, like, I've been waiting for your call. I thought I'd never see you again. I'm so happy. I can't stop smiling.

She basically just starts like reciting all the lines she had said to him throughout their dates. I've been on my own all my life. Never had anyone to talk to. You understand and accept me. And then it goes to him and we hear a voiceover from Oema saying, It'll be hard to get over, but you'll find one day that life is wonderful. And then it cuts to seven-year-old Asami in the ballet studio tying up her ballet shoes.

And that's the end of the movie. What? Isn't it crazy? That went there so hard. For, yeah, for anyone who wasn't expecting it to be that like definitely emily's in shock emily's at worse than event horizon it's not nothing is worse i'm really upset i'm i'm really upset that his son didn't come home before he lost his foot. I'm really upset about that. I'm really upset.

I'm really upset too. I don't understand. Like, what? I still don't understand. I still don't understand people who watch movies like this and are like, love every second of it.

Or just like, are like, yes, give me more of that i want to spend my time watching someone really abuse a child it's a it's a really tough one yeah i wouldn't say that i enjoyed it wow but people do lots of people do that vomit part really oh my god and apparently one of the trivia is that she really vomited she's a method actress and she wanted it to be real i don't think the man had to drink her real vomit but she did for real vomit into the dog food bowl that is so gross i am i this ruined this ruined my day it's not a fun one it's definitely not a feel-good movie and i felt bad for a while after i feel like um that doesn't usually happen to me i'm usually kind of able to like disconnect from it or like yeah yeah but this just made you feel bad

it made me feel really bad and just the idea of like someone coming into your house when you're not home and like waiting for you to torture you. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. No, I don't. Not a fan. No, I'm not a fan of that at all. No, thank you. And I don't think it's, I wouldn't call it a feminist film personally. I can see how people might think that. No, I wouldn't call it a feminist film, personally. I can see how people might think that. No, I wouldn't call it that. It doesn't feel that way to me. Oh! Oh!

Oh! That was really hard. That was really hard. I'm glad. I will say, I will say, I'm just just i'm glad that the bad part didn't last longer i i thought that like yeah i thought it would be more i thought there was going to be more bad things and i thought there was going to be like more of like the man involved and all of that but yeah yeah the pacing is really good i will say that it's it's i did enjoy that it's such a slow burn in the beginning,

and then just gets, like, batshit for 30 minutes. I liked the pacing. And that's all I liked. Jesus Christ. Okay, well, I'm, like, stunned into silence. It's just, like, so wild to me

that we do this wait like the three of us that we do this I never would have ever expected that this would be what I do no I'm also gonna go like take care of my like

infant son after this and the only thing I'm gonna be able to think about is this movie let's give you something else going to be able to think about is this movie. Let's give you something else to think about. What else could it be? What else could it be? Long haired dogs. Long haired dogs. There's new episodes of Ted Lasso. Long haired dogs.

That's right there is. I'm going to watch Ted Lasso. But a dog does. Does die. The first episode of Dog Dies. Is it a bloody dog? It's a spoiler because it is the first thing that happens. It's the first that happens.

But I was shocked. And I'll say, I was shocked. I did not expect that. But it's a short-haired dog. Don't worry. It's a short-haired dog. Then we're fine. Then we're chilling.

We're fine. I really... I'm glad that we're fine. Then we're chilling. I really love. I'm. I really. You know. I'm glad that we do this. But not this particular one. Not in this moment.

But in general. Just a hundred episodes in. I think it's very cool. I think it's cool too. I love you guys so much. I love you guys so much. I remember. Was it before or after the earthquake that we solidified our plans to do this podcast?

Oh, that's a good question. I think after. Or was it before? I think it might have been before. Maybe it was after. No, it was before because we took all those pictures. All those pictures were before the earthquake. Before the earthquake. But I just remember a beautiful summer eve

right before a big earthquake deciding to do this and i didn't we didn't know what it would be like and and how we would do it and if it would be interesting we just wanted to do it and we've done it for a hundred years a hundred years is what I meant to say. And I just feel very grateful. I feel very grateful. Me too. I feel very grateful too.

Because also I, you know, don't live in the same city as you guys anymore. And now I get, I still get to see you all the time. Thank God. All the time. Through a whole pandemic. Yeah. Thank God. You were my like only social connection through the whole pandemic. And what thank God. You were my only social connection through the whole pandemic

and what the hell would I have done? What the hell would I have done? I don't even want to think about it. I don't even want to think about it. That's the real horror. I don't even want to think about it. And even like, you have a new baby and it's really hard and we still get to force you to hang out with us because

we have to. Yeah, and that's very nice, too. It's great. It's really good. You guys are still my only social connection. Oh my god, you guys, I just remembered we have to watch the trailer. Oh, fuck! No! Sorry.

Do we have to? We had moved on! Okay, let's do it fast. Let's do it fast. Let's do it fast let's do it fast yep let's do it god damn it I don't know. sally's fast yeah it could have been worse thank god thank god could have been worse but yeah sammy you're not allowed to go back to acupuncture after that. Isn't it so? I know. You really have to take a break. Yeah, you have to take a break. Simply must.

Because acupuncture is scary regularly. Now I'm going to be thinking about this. Fuck. Fuck this movie. So this movie ruined a lot of things for all of us. Our days, our future acupuncture appointments. Fuck this. Dating. Hell no. Dating. Dating. our days our future acupuncture appointments fuck this dating

dating dating is out the window now oh no auditions well we did it auditions we did it I'm sorry to everybody

honestly listeners kind of sort of picked it. It was second number two, runner up. Runner up. We were going to have to do it eventually. It was going to have to happen. And it happened. And we did it. Are there any...

And there you go. Should we say kitty, kitty, kitty as our farewell? Yeah. And this will just go straight into the Amityville Horror Recap. So enjoy that. And yeah. Until next time. Kitty, kitty, kitty.

Kitty, kitty. Speaking of our wonderful listeners, you guys chose our movie for our 100th episode on our Instagram. Yeah. And it is the Amityville Horror, the original that came out in 1979. And apparently there was some mixed reactions from our listeners. So anyone who's very upset about this choice, I'm sorry. So sorry. We're going to have some fun either way. It's one that I've in my head.

I'm like, I know of it. And I feel like fun either way it's one that i've in my head i'm like i know of it and i feel like i know that it's really scary and also it's like based on a true story and there's a real house where like all these murders like i'm i'm very intrigued by that element of it that it like in real life is a scary place and thing yeah but i don't know anything about the movie yeah i hadn't seen it this was my first time seeing it. It was directed by Stuart Rosenberg, written by Sander Stern, based on a book by Jay Anson that is based on the story by George and Kathy Lutz, who are the real life people who lived in this house. It is starring James Brolin, Margot Kidder, Rod Steiger, Don Stroud, and Marie Hamilton. And it is streaming on HBO Max. And as a fun little thing for us to be doing with this movie, you may know, listeners, if you are patrons on our Patreon, our one and only Samantha Smart made bingo

cards for Horror Movie Bingo, which we will be playing as we listen. Yes, I will be calling out when to mark your bingo cards. So if you got a bingo card, pull it out, baby, and if you don't, you should probably get one.

Head to that Patreon, baby. Patreon.com slash tsdw podcast get your very own bingo card i think they're pretty cool i think they're pretty cool um okay so the amityville horror here's where i can kind of see where maybe some people were upset because this surprised me 30 on rotten tomatoes okay 20 28 on metacritic but still the standard 6.2 on imdb okay okay that's this i feel like this is such a famous movie or is it just that amityville is such a famous thing in and of itself because like how why do I even know about it if it's a bad movie well there's been sequels there was a remake in 2005 it

intersects a bit with the conjuring universe which we'll talk a little bit about but so yeah I think it's just and it's probably like there's haunted houses about it every Halloween it probably is featured somewhere or whatever it's just yeah but i i assumed because it is so prevalent to still to this day that it would be

good but was it not good i mean i didn't think it was bad but i'm surprised that people really hate Interesting. So some trivia for us. It is, as we said, based on a true story. So it takes place in a house. It's like a couple that moves into a house after a murder was committed there. And strange things start happening to the couple. Did they know that the murder that murders were committed there? Yes, they did know. I hope they got a great deal. I think they did.

Great. So this is a practical couple making good choices. And I didn't look too much into the story, but it does seem that most people do not believe them. And it may have even been fully debunked. And like they were just trying to make money and knew that it would be. Get them attention and publicity and stuff. And so, well, that's not good news for the reputation of the Warrens. Who are they lying we don't know they're the conjuring couple conjuring couple yeah i don't i i know that they did investigate this it was like the thing that got them some of their fame i think was was

researching amityville yeah um yeah i mean i i feel pretty sure that ed and ed and lorraine are a bit griftery right yeah i think i've cut well we'll talk about i think they believe what they're doing i just don't think that it's real right um okay some more trivia it was nominated for best score at the oscars uh for lalo schifrin. Because the movie was made on a relatively modest budget, James Brolin took less money up front, but with a promise of 10% of the gross sales after its release, after the movie became an unexpected blockbuster, he eventually received about $17 million.

If adjusted for inflation, that would be equivalent to a little over 55 million in 2014 so this trivia must be a couple years old no they probably wrote it this year in 2014 um and i liked this one it says in hopes of creating more publicity for the film the studio would concoct stories of weird occurrences on the set of the film like there's no trivia of weird occurrences happening it's just like we made it up we made it up and i appreciate that um this one i like cinematographer fred j uh uh conicamp admitted to having a hard time filming the scenes with flies there are some flies as he claimed to be scared of

insects he says that whenever he was to film a scene with a close-up facial shot of a fly right in the camera he would look away or close his eyes and hope for a good shot sir sir no no that's literally your job, sir. And he also lost nearly 30 pounds because he refused to eat, saying the flies made him lose his appetite. Sir. Sir. Sir. I mean, the film, the filming, I think only took place over seven weeks. Losing 30 pounds in seven weeks is crazy. I think something else is going on with this guy. I hope he's okay.

And some casting what-ifs for the role of George Lutz. They considered Harrison Ford, Burt Reynolds, James Kahn, and Christopher Reeve. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. Heavy hitters. Yeah, yeah. And then our Conjuring

trivia. The true story behind the movie has a special relationship with two modern horror films the conjuring and annabelle the warrens ed and lorraine were also involved with the investigation of the real real house and served as demonology advisors for the sequel amityville to the possession oddly enough amy's doll is a raggedy Ann, which is what the real Annabelle is. Ugh. Spooky. That's all I've got, so should we

watch this trailer? I guess so. It's the kind of house they don't build anymore. A relic of a time when the world wasn't in such a hurry. When there was still time for a little charm and elegance. It has stood empty for a long while and at the price it is a bargain. For a growing young family it is almost

too good to be true. What do you think? I love it. James Brolin, Margot Kidder, Rod Steiger in the Amityville Horror. God's peace in this house. Get out! Get out! Hello? Hello, Kathy? Father Delaney, there's something very impor- Mommy, I want to go home. What do you want from us? What's all going on? We have to do something. I'm coming apart. Oh, mother of God, I'm coming apart.

28 days after the Lutz family moved into their dream house, they were running for their lives. What happened to them is an experience in terror you will never forget. And you will believe in the Amityville Horror. From the best-selling book that made millions believe in the unbelievable, the Amityville Horror. Okay, so we open with credits rolling over the spooky house at nighttime. The windows are lit up. It's in the middle of a storm.

There's thunder and lightning and two lightning crashes happen. And then we see two gunshots happen inside the house. So the windows light up with the gunfire and we see the gunshots move from window to window. And then some text pops up and says, November 13th, 1974, Amityville, Long Island, a mother, father, and four of their children murdered. No apparent motive. This is the part that is very much real and it was his name is ronald de feo jr and he killed it was his family he killed his mother father and his four siblings oh my god and he is still in prison i believe because he was young still alive yeah i mean yeah I mean, yeah. Oh, my God. So then text pops up.

It's daytime now. It's sunny and nice out. It says one year later and the music is going. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la. And we meet George and Kathy Lutz. They are being shown the house by a realtor. And they are newlyweds. They seem very in love.

They really love the house. The realtor is, you know, showing them around saying, like, you won't get anything like this for this price. And they ask for a moment alone up in the attic. If you have attic on your bingo cards. I do! I do as well. And so they get a moment alone to kind of talk about

it and they say $80,000 it's like a very good price. This house must be worth $120,000. These lucky people in this lucky time. And I'm at this point thinking like, oh,

they're just like straight up not telling them about the murders that happened. That's pretty rude. But then they're like, but then Kathy says, well, I don't like that. All those people were murdered here.

And George is like, well, I, you know, I don't like it either, but it's like makes the house way cheaper and houses don't have memories. And then there she's Kathy says, like, I love it. We should do it.

He's saying I can move my my work office here. That'll save us money. And so they decide they're going to do it and they're touring the rest of the house. So they decide they're going to do it and they're touring the rest of the house. And during the tour, there's like loud flashbacks to the murders happening in each room. So the realtor will open a door and then it's like and we see the carnage that happened there previously. All the jump scares are so loud. And we see that this house also has a basement mark your bingos got it and guess what they're about to do they're about to move to a new house so if you have that some some

of the bingos have that on there too all right so kathy has three children from a previous marriage. I'd call James Berlin a hot dad. Let's yeah, let's do it. So we see them moving in and we see that George is not great with the kids and says something like if they'd start calling me dad instead of George, that'd be nice. He's kind of a dick about it. Like that's weird. Not the right way to get children to like you and kathy's like oh they like you like just give them time it's it's gonna take time um we don't ever find out what happened to their dad or her previous husband

um and as they're unpacking boxes uh george out a metal cross and says, what do you want to do with this? A religious icon. Kathy says, that will look great on that wall over there. The light will hit it just right. So they hang their cross on the wall. You've got to have the light hit your cross. It's a very strange moment. But they hang it and the light does hit it and it reflects off the metal.

It's gorgeous. Absolutely perfect spot for this. Absolutely gorgeous. And then as a family, they go out to the water. There's a boathouse also. So they're getting ready to take the boat out, enjoy their new home. And as they're out on the boat, a priest comes to the house. This is Father Delaney. And he's kind of calling out, Kathy, Kathy. So they've apparently

called him there to bless the house, but they're now gone. And so but the door is open. So he goes in and just starts kind of blessing the house and pretty quickly starts feeling a negative presence or something. He's getting some weird effects of being in this house, kind of getting out of breath or like he's getting really nauseous or something is happening. And he goes, he hears children's laughter coming from a room and he's like, oh, did the kids stay back? Are they here? Goes into this room upstairs. It's empty. There's no kids in there. And this room is where he really starts feeling something. And and more flies start appearing and he's getting really really sweaty and all these flies are landing on him and it goes from two flies to about a hundred flies pretty quick and he seems to be unable to kind of walk he's kind of frozen um sweating unable to kind of walk he's kind of frozen um sweating like he's getting really sick and uh the buzzing is getting really loud and we get really close close-ups of the flies doing their little

hand thing and buzzing they're like this and flies do so much little hand stuff. They love doing their little hands. They love their little hands. And they rubbed honey on the actor in order to get them to land on him. Oh, that sucks. Ew. And so the buzzing's very loud, and then all of a sudden it gets completely quiet, and he just hears a very demonic- voice say get out get out and he he kind of snaps back to runs out runs out of the house gets in his car drives drives home then back the family comes back to the house, don't even know that he was there. And Amy, the daughter, is starting to feel kind of sick too and act a little strangely.

So they kind of put her in bed early and tell her to rest. Father Delaney tries to call them to tell them something's very wrong with your house. And the phone line is just static. And he's yelling into the phone, Kathy, Kathy, I need to tell you about the house. And she's just hearing can't contact them. Oh, also, they are hearing kind of some mysterious noises. That's right. I'm marking it, baby. Mark your bingo.

I'm marking it, baby. I'm marking it. Oh, and also when Father Delaney calls, he gets like a burn on his hand from the receiver of the phone. Ouch. And... Don't do it. I didn't do it.

I thought about it too, but I didn't do it. Oh, we talked about it. I did it. It was in the did it it was in the air it was in the air i can't not think about it every time we say ouch now oh boy so um that evening george is i don't know he's been unpacking boxes and working on the house and doing stuff and he comes into the kitchen, talks to Kathy and says, like, it's really cold in here. This place is supposed to be well insulated. And they look at the thermostat and it's set to 72 and he is shivering.

And he's getting really aggravated about this. Like, what do you buy like a piece of shit house like it's supposed to be well insulated. He's seeming irritable hmm um then that night they are getting ready for bed and Kathy is in what I could describe as a nasty night

gown would you describe it that way I would okay and I will and mark your bingo um Would you describe it that way? I would. Okay. And I will. And mark your bingo. And they have sex their first night in their new house. Are they going to say their first time? And they're having sex. Now that's how you bless a house.

Hey, yo. they're having sex and then that's how you bless a house yeah hey yo then um we see the door starting to creak open and push open and they're not noticing and then it opens all the way and it's amy and she's feeling sick again and she's kind of crying and Kathy jumps out of bed to to go get her back in bed and Amy says I want to go home like I don't like it here um and she puts Amy back in bed and um Amy falls back asleep and it's fine and George and Kathy are kind of like oh that's going to be happening we're going to have to get used to that like having the kids here and they're gonna be walking in on us and george doesn't seem thrilled about this um then they go to bed and that night uh at exactly 3 15 which i feel like is another conjuring thing there's at least a time at night that there's a occurrence happens in the conjuring but we see that we see the clock next to the bed stand

turn to 3 15 and george george's eyes open and he gets up like he's maybe hearing something or sensing something he just has to get out of bed and he gets he steps out of bed and he puts on jeans isn't that insane that's very crazy well i guess he's very cold that That's true. But they're like laying next to his bed, ready to go. Like this is he just wakes up and puts his jeans on. I'd like never put jeans on if I don't have to. Yeah, no. Anyways, I thought it was weird. So I wrote it down.

And he goes and sees that that same window that the flies were all at is open there's no flies there anymore but there is a draft coming from this room and he finds it closes that window and then as he's closing it he sees outside at the boathouse the boathouse light is on and the door is kind of waving in the wind opening and closed and so he pulls on a coat, no shirt. So he's in a jeans, no shirt and like a fur winter coat. It's a great look. That's a fun look. And he goes outside to investigate and they have a dog. The dog's name is Harry.

And he kind of walks by the dog and is like, what a great guard dog you are. And Harry's just sleeping, doesn't even care. And him and Harry go to go to check out the boathouse. Nothing in there. The light's just on he turns it off um and he goes back inside and kind of collapses on a chair on the on the first floor of the house like he's tired and not making it back up to the the room and as he is kind of sitting back in this chair a cat pops in the window and goes like the loudest the loudest cat hiss scream thing and i was watching this with bunk sleeping next to me and bunk jumped up and got so scared and then this morning i was taking notes and it played again and bunk

was sleeping by the front door and again jumped and like ran into my room so i know that this this this part really got bunk twice bad for cats bad for cats yeah uh the next day he is chopping some wood george getting real sweaty. Pretty quickly he starts having a Jack Torrance vibe like in The Shining. Like he's just kind of seeming not himself even though we just met him but it's not seeming good.

Would you say he has a wood chopper's physique? He's wearing a big old baggy sweatshirt unfortunately. Oh, bummer um but yes i think so because similar to the hot dad from the hot dad and the witch um and kathy comes home from getting groceries and decides to sneak up on him while he's chopping wood which is holy shit so crazy she's like tiptoeing with like a big smile on her face like

i'm gonna get him so good oh no kathy kathy what are you doing he has an axe and she does scare him and he like immediately starts screaming at her like are you insane like don't scare a person with an axe which like he's absolutely right you got you got give him this one. He's been an asshole other times, but this time he's right. Yeah. And she tells him that her family is coming over and this is a big deal for her because she's the first one in the family to buy a house. And he's like very annoyed that the family has to come over. And she's like, please, like it's a big deal.

They're all just really happy for me. And he's like, oh, like, fine. Just like constantly mad about everything. Irritable. James Brolin, I guess, said that he didn't get any acting jobs for two years after this movie because his character is like such an asshole that apparently people didn't want to work with him. But he's like actually really good in this movie. He got work after that, though.

I'm sure he's. Yeah, he's fine. I think we're certainly starting to see some relationship trouble mark it mark it let's do it dysfunctional family relationship trouble freaking do it and then inside the house kathy's doing dishes and kind of senses something and turns around and is walking towards the basement and then like

comes back to she's like no it's probably just nothing turns around to go back to the kitchen and there's a jump scare that Jody is I mean Amy is standing there and I think this counts as a creepy kid. This is we're getting into creepy kid territory.

Oh, fuck. Yeah. And she said, because here's what she says. She says, my friend Jody wants to play upstairs and there's no Jody here. And Kathy just thinks it's cute. Like, OK, you and your friend Jody go play upstairs. That's fine. It's never cute. It's never cute.

So then Kathy calls Father Delaney to check in on when he's coming to bless the house. And another priest answers. It's Father Bolin. And he informs her that Father Delaney is like really, really ill and can't speak

we see that he's basically in like a hospital bed and she says oh he was supposed to come bless the house but it can totally wait until he's feeling better like send him like send him my regards and father bolin says wait but he did come to your house. And she's like, no, we were expecting him, and he never showed up. And he's like, well, he definitely left here to go to your house, and that's when he came back feeling really bad. She's like, huh, well, yeah, no, we didn't see him, but when he's feeling better, give me a call back, and I want to talk to him.

And we'll want to talk to him. And so now they're getting ready for the family to come visit. And it's just one of her aunts coming to visit. And right as she is about to arrive, some black tar looking substance starts spouting out of all of the toilets. they're overflowing with that overflowing with black liquid and um kathy's like very embarrassed by this and like yeah yeah she's like hide it close the door he's like don't let her see don't let her pee don't let her pee and so they're all upstairs trying to deal with the toilets. And we see the aunt arrive. And she is a nun in full nun garb. A habit.

A habit. A habit. And she also finds the front door open. So she just lets herself in. She seems very sweet. And she's excited and really smiley. And then she's brought a little potted plant. And within taking a few steps into the house, she is overcome by the same thing that we saw Father Delaney be overcome by.

Like she starts really sweating. She drops the potted plant. It shatters. Kathy runs downstairs hearing her and it's like oh my god are you okay what's going on and she's just like i have to go i have to go i feel really sick i need to get out of here and kathy's like no like please like what can i get you can i get you water you get you tea and she says like no i gotta get out of here basically pushes kathy away runs out the front door runs in her car drives off um and then we see as she's driving she like

makes it a couple miles away and then has to pull over and opens the door to throw up and the door covers her face as she leans down to throw up and the sounds this actress makes are like like it's the craziest mom it sounds it made me laugh so much oh i loved it um then back at the house we see george just staring into the fireplace he has he has made a fire with his firewood that he's been chopping non-stop and he just is unblinkingly staring into the fire but to be fair fire's super hypnotizing and i have for sure done this as well staring at fire but it doesn't look normal for him and he's starting to get kind of pale and some dark circles under his eyes and kathy

finds him and is like oh like maybe you're getting sick. Like maybe you and Amy have the same thing. Like you're both you've both been seeming a little under the weather. You should sleep in tomorrow. And he says, I can't sleep in. I don't want to be up to my neck in boxes forever. And just like really snaps at her. And she's like, OK.

forever and just like really snaps at her and she's like okay um and they go up to bed and again at exactly 3 15 in the morning kathy shoots upright and screams ah she was shot in the head and then lays back down and is still asleep and so it obviously wakes george up and he just kind of looks over at her like uh very unnerved by that and um then the next day we see uh father delaney has has woken up and is basically told Father Brolin or Bolin that we need to go to the house like something's wrong. I need to tell them I haven't been able to contact them. We just got to go there and tell them. And so Father Bolin and Father Delaney are driving to the house and on the way there, they lose control of the car. they lose control of the car and

does it break down? The hood flies up blocking their view and they lose control and they get in an accident. It doesn't break down but I think we should just say it. But I mean it seems like the car's not doing great.

The car's not doing great. Right. Click. Mark your bingo. Click it. Baby I'm marking it. like the car's not doing great the car's not doing great right click your click mark your baby i'm marking it even though i know i'm not going to get this road because another thing on there is a cave and i don't really see that coming up any tests but hey you never know it could be a twist um so then we see back at the house they are getting ready for kathy's brother's wedding day and there had been some mention of this because george is the best man and there's another thing that he's like i can't be sick like i'm the best man at your brother's wedding i gotta be healthy for tomorrow so we see george come out in his suit and he looks like so bad.

He's just so sweaty. His face is like almost purple now. It's like pale and then really purple underneath his eyes. He's not looking his best. And before he comes in, we see Kathy and her brother and her brother is meticulously counting out like a stack of hundreds. And it's $1,500 that he needs to pay the caterer. And he's like, you could tell he's nervous. Wedding day jitters.

And Kathy's kind of like, yeah, you've counted it a bunch of times. Like, it's $1,500. Like, it's 1500 like it's gonna be fine like just like you're good this is gonna be a great day and i'm so happy for you and then george walks in looking like shit and he's like oh like i'm so happy for you too this is great for me too i'm having a good day also um And as they all get ready to leave, a babysitter arrives to watch Amy. I have babysitter on mine. Looks like you guys do. I don't.

And this babysitter is in full headgear, which do they do headgear anymore? I don't think they do. Like today's teens could never i feel like i feel like you only do it if you had to have like surgery where they like you know move your jaw or something yeah um well this babysitter has arrived to take care of amy because she's gonna stay home because she's not feeling well and so the rest of the family leaves amy and the babysitter at the house and as they're leaving uh the brother is like where's my 1500 i just had it in my pocket and it is just gone he's looking

they're on their hands and needs looking for this money they can't find it he starts completely freaking out he's like fuck fuck fuck what am i gonna do and george says it was just here like it's got to be here it's fine like we'll find it when we get back we're in a hurry now i'll pay for it and you can pay me back when we find like i'll just take the money when you find it and he's like oh my god thank you so much so they leave to go then at home we see the babysitter putting amy to bed and said saying like, your mom told me to put you back early because you're sick. And she says, no, I want to play with Jodi. I want to play with Jodi.

She's like, don't give me attitude. We're going to bed. And she goes into the closet to try to grab her, I don't know, blanket or something. And the closet door slams closed behind her and locks her in there and she immediately is like completely freaking out it's very funny because like there's like yeah it would be a little you'd have a little fright from the door slamming but i wouldn't immediately be like oh my god she turns it up to 11 real quick and she is banging on the door amy let me out let me out and we see amy just sitting in her bed

like staring at the door she's not moving to help her and uh the babysitter is pounding on the door so hard that her knuckles start to bleed. And we see within a matter of minutes that she is just acting like she's about to die. And then the power goes out. Man, fingers crossed for a cave. man fingers crossed for a cave um but so the lights go out in the closet and the babysitter's freaking out even more we see at the wedding george continues to be really ornery and he the he pays by check and the caterers like I said cash and he's like, you don't take my check or you'll eat your own goddamn food.

And Kathy sees this and is like, oh, he's been pretty weird lately. Also, I guess I should point out that Kathy is Catholic and George's is not. And so after the wedding, they come home. They find the babysitter locked in the closet crying. She's kind of crumpled on the floor now, like like sobbing, like she's exhausted from trying to get out. And they are turned to Amy. Amy, why didn't you let her out?

What the heck? What the freaking heck, Amy? Amy, why is it freaking heck? And Amy says, Jody wouldn't let me me jody wouldn't let me let her out and george sees this and says this door doesn't lock and after they get her out they open and close it a bunch of times there's no there's no lock on it and so it's that's that's pretty weird. And George loses his temper with Amy and says, these kids need some goddamn discipline. You don't discipline these kids enough.

And Kathy looks shocked. And then George storms out of the room and then Kathy turns and also screams at Amy like we're tensions are now high in this family we're all screaming at each other and Amy says to her mom Jody doesn't like George

and then we see the next day George back to chopping his wood looking very unblinkingly chopping the wood not not looking good and his a car pulls up and it his is his business partner jeff and his girlfriend um carolyn and they get out and she's like oh you didn't tell me their house was gonna be so nice like this is so fancy and as they're approaching the house carolyn gets that same look as the um priest and the nun did and but she just kind of gets like a shiver

like a chill and turns to jeff and says i'm i don't i don't want to go in like I'm going to wait in the car. I don't want to go in there. And so she just waits in the car and Jeff finds George chopping his wood and it starts talking to him and telling like telling him like the I don't know, payroll people have been trying to contact him. He has unpaid payroll for some of their employees and kind of bringing all these financial things to George being like basically we're falling behind financially in this

company and George is looking very unpredictable with his axe. He's looking like really angry and at one moment kind of stops chopping wood and turns to jeff with the axe kind of wielded in a in a very aggressive manner and he's like don't you have any good news for me

and we're like is he about to fucking chop his business partner he doesn't the business partner is like yeah i have your spotlight for your boat i I can go put it in. And that kind of brings George back to and he's like, OK, great. Thank you. And they like go and start installing the spotlight on the boat. Then we see Amy playing outside with Jody. She's whispering like Jody, like, show me this or whatever. whispering like jody like show me this or whatever and the two other kids brothers there's two boys also are upstairs dangling something off a fishing wire to kind of fuck with amy like a little toy spider type thing and um kathy walks in and sees them messing with her and is like leave your sister alone and this is the same room and same window

that all the flies were at that they're dangling this fishing wire out of. And so as one of the boys is kind of pulling the fishing rod back in, the window slams closed on his hand and it like bursts like blood sprays everywhere. Like it just is like so much blood and he's obviously screaming in pain and kathy and george run run up and are trying to open the window and they cannot

budge the window and so the kid is just screaming and screaming and screaming and they just can't open the window and then it cuts to the emergency room. So I guess eventually they got it. They got it open. His hand is now all bandaged up and it has not broken any bones. And they think that that is very strange. And but so they bring him back home and. Go. Everyone goes to bed. And again, at 3 15 george wakes up this time he's wearing a long sleeve shirt and no pants and it's kind of the reverse of the last outfit yeah and gets out of bed and

here's he's hearing some buzzing and he opens that door to that room and it is filled with flies even more than before probably thousands now and he looks horrified and um then the house is making like noise and just everything's ramping up and feeling very stressful and then the front door explodes off the hinges and the basement door explodes off the hinges wakes the whole family up we're all scared now and george tells kathy call the police i don't know what's happening the police arrive and they kind of explain they're like i don't i don't know what's going on and this is the same detective that investigated the murders that happened there so he's a little clued in to what happened here and he

looks at George and says were you related to the family that lived here before and he says what no he's like you look a lot like the guy weird I mean there's nothing to be done

they're just like okay well we'll make a report this is strange occurrences happening you know we're gonna get someone out to fix these doors in the morning and as they when they like investigated the

basement or went and looked down in the basement, they saw the dog Harry clawing at a certain spot on the wall. There's kind of a stone wall and dog is really clawing at it.

And they're like, Harry, stop it. Then Kathy is crying and kind of says like we've got to do something something is wrong and so the next day oh yeah the next day Kathy starts asking Amy about Jody like okay tell me more about your friend Jody and she says Jody used to live here. She told me about her brothers. They lived here too. All of them got hurt. They died. And Kathy is like, oh, fuck.

Okay. I got to call Father Delaney again. And calls Father Delaney. Again, the static is happening. She can't actually speak to him. We see George going to the library trying to see if he can, I don't know, find something there. It's not a research montage. I'm sorry.

He just grabs one book off the shelf and. And it just happens to be the exact book that he needs. Maybe he spoke to someone before and asked about it. He might have spoken. But no, I think he actually steals the book. And so he puts it in his pants and walks out. So I guess he wouldn't have asked anyone because that would have been a giveaway. Anyways, so then George goes to the town bar.

And I guess we could call it heavy drinking he's he's he's definitely trying to drink his problems away works every time foolproof and uh his business partner jeff meets him at the bar and as the bartender is bringing the drinks over he spills all of them he looks like scared and he says oh my god i'm sorry you look exactly like the guy that killed his whole family here oh my god and he's like sorry about that like let me get you some new drinks uh so then they go back to just chatting and again, George is being really short and irritable with his partner. He's like, I don't want to talk about I don't talk about that shit. And eventually he snaps and he punches Jeff in the face.

And Jeff is like, OK, now can we talk like, have you got it out of your system? He takes he takes it really well for having just been. He's like, I can tell you're going through something. Tell me what's up. And so George takes the book out of his pants and he's like, something's going on with my house. And they, he's like, let me call Carolyn. She's in tune with this kind of stuff. She is a clairvoyant. I think it counts as a psychic. Yes, baby. Also, when the phone rings, how loud is it? It's this time not too loud,

but there might be a loud phone ring coming up. Fuck, yeah. And you know what? I actually can't remember when the loud phone ring is, so mark it off now, because there is one. And also, every time the phone rings, Father Delaney lets it ring like a hundred times it's so crazy um because he's feeling stressed like he doesn't know if he wants to deal with this because what is he welcoming into his life and so he always like stares at the phone

for 10 rings before he answers it um i was just feeling bad for my my neighbors having to hear just a phone a loud phone ring over and over and over um uh so we see kathy back at the house checking on everyone all the kids in bed it's nighttime again and as that dang window with the flies on it is wide open again and she goes up to close it and as she closes it two red eyes are looking back at her she gets really scared and we cut back to now George and Jeff have met up with Carolyn. The three of them are looking through this book. And she says, it's right here. Like the place that your house was built used to be like a witch lived there. A man who was persecuted for being a witch had built a house there and so this is the same

land um and jeff for some reason i don't know if maybe the effects of the house are coming through from just them talking about it but jeff snaps at carolyn in a really crazy way where he says you sound like a psycho weirdo now do me a favor and shut up and she's kind of like oh okay yeah and it's like well fair it's you asked me for help and then i sounded like a psycho weirdo so you fair and she's like stop being so rational jeff like this these things exist like just accept it and so they decide they've all got to go back to the house, and as they get out of the car, Carolyn is kind of drawn to the house now, kind of the opposite of before.

She's like, it's alluring. I'm feeling drawn to it, and she says, I need to go to the basement. It's coming from the basement, and so her and Jeff go downstairs while George talks to Kathy. Kathy has just seen these eyes, so she's scared. George is like we're gonna figure this out don't worry down in the basement kathy goes i mean carolyn goes straight for that stone wall and they see the dog still

scratching at it and jeff runs to the dog and is like no no it's okay and we see that the dog's paws are completely bloody from just like scratching and scratching so jeff finds like a towel and starts tending to the dog's paws carolyn finds a sledgehammer and starts banging at this stone wall jeff's like what the fuck carolyn you can't just start demolishing a wall in someone's house and she's like it's coming from there it's coming from there george runs down it's like what the fuck carolyn you can't just start demolishing a wall in someone's house and she's like it's coming from there it's coming from there george runs down it's like what the fuck's going on what are you doing in my house and she's like it's coming from there george it's coming from there and he puts his hand up to it and can feel that there is a draft and there is something on the other side and he's like she's right and he grabs a sledgehammer, knocks down that stone wall, revealing a room that is completely red.

And as he looks in it, a reflection of himself, a disembodied reflection of himself, stares back, like just a floating face staring back at him that briefly hypnotizes him. And Carolyn looks at it, very wide-eyed, and then opens her mouth and the voice

of father delaney comes out and says it is the gates the gate to hell the gate to hell is in upstate new york and uh we see father delaney in his office or room wherever he is experiencing something as well like he is um sensing this there's more that happens with father delaney that i'm skipping because it's i don't know not that important but father delaney's going through a lot and after this he kind of um father father bolin doesn't know whether or not to kind of believe him that this is happening and after this father delaney gives like a very powerful speech and cries and at the end of the speech goes blind um and father bolin is like, okay, like something's definitely happening, but gets Father Delaney and kind of keeps him in his room or whatever, tending to him. He's like, we don't want this to get out. We don't want to publicize whatever's happening here. Whatever it is, we don't want to be shouting it from the rooftops so kathy is then trying to find father delaney it's very important to her something very bad is happening and only finds father bolin and father bolin is pretty

cagey with information and says like um like it's out of my hands. Like you, Father Delaney, we can't reach him. He's blind now, so don't worry about it. So that's a dead end for Kathy. And so Kathy also goes to the library to look at the microfiche of old newspaper clippings. What a fun word. It is fun. I wish we used the word microfiche more. It's a good word. Bye is fun. I wish we had, I wish we used the word microfiche more. It's a good word. I got bingo.

Woo! I, well, I sort of cheated because I, that's, I did car breaks down, so. I think it counts.

But at any point were we warned by a stranger? I don't think so. I mean. Okay. Then no, that's fine. No, but I did get bingo.

I didn't, that's, I want another bingo, but. I see. I got a psychic, a basement, a research montage, and car breaks down, and free fine. No, but I did get bingo. I didn't. That's I want another bingo. But I see. I got a psychic, a basement, a research montage and car breaks down and free space. Nice. The honor and dignity is yours.

Thank you so much. Well, let's keep going. So it doesn't end just because I got. Anyway, thanks for listening. 100 episodes. This is what we do now. So, and she sees in the microfiche that he isn't, George is indeed a spitting image of the man who killed his family.

Yikes. Not what you want to learn. Freaks her out. And, but she runs, she is like is like George and runs back to the house like she is scared, not of him, but for him, which seems wrong. And so she's running to get George. And. We see also at home that Amy is drawing on the wall wall a child child drawing she's just writing the name jody and like crayon on the wall no um and we do see that at home george is uh looking worse than

ever he is sharpening his axe he is digging a hole it doesn't seem good um And he looks up at the house and sees a pig demon. It's the only way I can describe it. It's the same red eyes that we saw before. But now we can see that they are on the body of a pig. Kind of a ghost pig. Kathy gets home. Oh, sorry. Also also I don't remember when this happened but at one night at 3 15 George gets up to go check and DL's like what do you want from us and Kathy gets up to go check on him and checks the rooms of the kids and goes into Amy's room and finds him chopping her with an axe, blood everywhere.

And then he turns on her with the axe. And then Kathy wakes up. So we got a dream, a dream sequence. Yeah, baby. And that's after that's the part in the trailer where he's downstairs and saying, I'm apart i'm good dear god i'm coming apart kathy runs down to help him and he is um he's like very quiet and he's kind of like oh i think it was just a dream it's okay like i'm okay and he's very i'm not actually coming apart it's okay i'm totally fine and she sees uh like punctures on his ankle and says it

looks like you've been bitten and oh by a pig this looks like a little pig bite and he says will you stop nagging me about my pig bite you're so annoying kathy and at some point their uh cross that they had hung on the wall has turned upside down oh no um and anyways okay so back to george digging his hole sharpening his axe it's raining and nighttime probably some thundering and he starts calling out amy amy with his axe oh no and kathy has made it home she was rushing home after she found uh that he looks like the guy that killed his family and she sees him from inside the house she sees him coming to the house carrying an axe and um she hides the kids in a closet or something locks them in there and he comes inside and is looking around in each room and eventually finds, I think, Amy is crying, making noise because she's scared.

And so he locates where they are and he takes his axe and he starts chopping down the door. Again, very much like The Shining. They're all screaming inside. You kind of see his face through the little space that he's chopping. his face through the little space that he's chopping. And then he, as he's about to get the door open, Kathy rushes him. She was, she's not inside the closet. She was waiting outside and she kind of like pins him down the ax. Oh no, he still has the ax. And he's, she just is like screaming, like, please like, don't hurt my children don't hurt my children and he throws her off and turns the axe on her and for a second her face is an old woman's face she gets old for just this one shot and he puts the axe down and like strikes her with the axe she rolls out, dodges it, and is sobbing hysterical.

Her husband is trying to kill her. And that brings him back to reality. And he snaps out of it. And he's like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Like, we got to get out of here. And she's like, yeah, like, let's leave. They get the kids.

They run out to the car. He's seemingly himself again and the walls of the house start bleeding and it looks it looks really cool um but it's yeah it's nasty they're pulling a lot of shit from the shining in this one but it's before the shining the shining is 19 Shining is 1980. And this is 79. Oh my God, Kubrick, you fucking thief. So they're running out. They get into the car and they start driving away.

And then Amy says, Harry, Harry, we forgot Harry. And they forgot the dog. And Kathy is like, I don't fuck, like, no, like, I don't care. Keep driving. Fair. Yeah. But George has got to prove himself to those kids. He's trying to he's been trying to win him over.

And so, well, and he just tried to murder. He gets out of the car, runs back to the house kathy screams no and he goes inside and he hears harry down in the basement and he takes one step onto the basement stairs and falls through them and the stairs go over the red room the gate the gate to hell and he plummets right down into that room which now has an open floor filled with that same black liquid maybe blood even i'm not quite a dark liquid that's probably what was coming out of the toilets before gets completely submerged in there and uh starts trying to climb out but he's now all slippery and sticky and struggling um and harry

just starts attacking him because he's coming out of he's coming out of the gate of hell it seems you know and he's maybe covered in blood so harry harry starts just biting his arms so he's trying to cut out he's like harry no it's me it's me and uh eventually he's able to get out. He picks Harry up like a baby and runs up to jumps over the part of the stairs that fell out, gets out. The front door won't open. And so he breaks a window. They jump out a window. They run to the car. He puts Harry in the the car gets in and they drive away and text comes up that says george and kathleen lutz and their family never reclaimed their house or their personal belongings today they live in another state wow well thanks sammy thanks listeners it's about time we probably did this one well you guys first of all that's been an honor it's been an honor these hundred episodes have been an honor and a blessing and yeah i love you guys so much love all you listeners so much and from all of us here to watch. La la la la. Goodbye. Goodbye. La la la la.

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