Too Scary; Didn't Watch - 28 DAYS LATER with Dan Lippert

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

A rage virus, a very bad time to wake up from a coma, and more proof than man is the scariest monster of all, we're talking Danny Boyle's 2003 film 28 Days Later. Dan Lippert (UCB's Winslow,��Big Grande The Teacher's Lounge and You're The Man Now Dog podcast) walks us through the empty London streets of the zombie apocalypse. Fockin' Hell. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everybody. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm here. I'm scared. I'm Henley. I'm here. I'm also scared. I'm Sammy. I feel like I have to say that I'm here. But I am very brave. Very brave. Very brave. Yeah, she is.

She's brave and she's here. She's our fearless leader. Did anything scary happen to us this week? Okay, well, I think the scariest thing scary happen to us this week? Okay, well, I think the scariest thing that happened to me this week was the scariest thing that happened to all of us this week, which was our entire country devolving into more of a fucking nightmare. And the fact that Donald Trump and the entire Republican Party is doubling down on the fact that it's totally chill and fine to reach out to a foreign country and ask for their assistance in digging up information on your political rival.

That's fine. This is a political podcast. Guys, I am just floored by the events of this week. Really? Yeah. I feel as though I cannot be floored by anything ever again. We just crossed a new line. It's just yet another line has been crossed.

And it's deeply upsetting. And also, I think it just solidifies how far people are willing to go if a con man is telling you what to do. He's literally a cult leader. I'm sorry, but he's the head of a cult. You're scaring me. I'm not brave anymore. Sorry, was that too much? No, honestly.

Should we cut it out? No, we're not going to cut it out. I refuse to cut it out. My scariest thing that happened this week, pretty similar in scale, is that it took me 45 minutes to get a lift. Oh, my God. I remember this. Yeah, this is definitely

just as scary as what I said. To meet you guys, we were trying to hang out. Traffic was really bad heading from basically to get to me, but then for me to go anywhere was fine. I live close enough to the Hollywood Bowl. I think that's what it was. I think it was the Hollywood Bowl was causing traffic. It would have been faster for you

to walk, right? It would have been much faster. I had three different rides cancel on me after waiting for them for like 10 minutes a piece and I was really mad. I don't blame you. Timmy? My scary thing happened on the way over here today.

I bought a bunch of alcohol for our cocktail this week and drove past one of those stop signs that's like fully obstructed by a tree and didn't notice it till the very last second, slammed on my brakes. All the bottles of alcohol flew forward in my seat and one of them shattered. And so now my car reeks of alcohol.

Just what you want your car to smell like. What was it that shattered? It was a sweet vermouth. Okay, that's not a good one. We actually didn't end up needing it for today's cocktail. But still a nightmare. Oh. Yuck. Yikes.

Well, this week's film I think is very scary. I honestly don't know much about it, but I know that people love it. We're going to tell you all about it. This week's film is 28 Days Later, directed by Danny Boyle, written by Alex Garland. You've probably heard of him as well.

Starring Cillian Murphy, Naomi Harris, Christopher Eccleston, and Brendan Gleeson. Oh. I just did all of that from memory, and I'm really proud of myself. That's pretty star- studded. I had forgotten that. On both the direction writing side and the cast. That's a big deal. Yeah, I hadn't seen this movie in probably 10 years.

It came out in 2003? 2002. Is this the first Alex Garland big picture that came into our awareness? I think so. You know, we don't fact check on the pod. We do not. So I can't say for sure, but I know for those who don't

know, Alex Garland did Ex Machina and Annihilation. Sunshine also with Danny Boyle, which I liked Sunshine. Nobody else did. I don't even think I've heard of it. I have not seen it. I think it's good. Okay. Okay. Alright, well, we got a guest

here who picked this film for us this this this great film that we're going to talk about he is a comedian he is an actor you see him at ucb on ascat and winslow and he has two podcasts teachers lounge with big grande and a new podcast you're the man now dog uh he's our very tall friend dan lipper all right what a response what a welcome hey dan hello how's it going great how are you i'm great scared. Scared? I'm scared. Yeah. I'm scared. Well, Dan, did anything scary happen to you this week?

I got scared. You got scared? I got scared when I was walking up here. I was listening to your Paranormal Activity episode. Scary. That's a scary one. I was like, I put ghosts and demons and spooky things in my brain. And then I parked my car and I was walking down the street parallel to here.

I won't say the name in case you're trying to keep it private. I'm trying to keep it private. Thank you. And I started hearing like footsteps running towards me. And I looked back and that's already a scary thing to hear. And I looked back and there was a guy in like jeans and a shirt running. So it's like, Oh,

this isn't a jogger. Yeah. And I was like, this is kind of scary, but I've seen him. He looks like, you know, he couldn't take me or whatever. I don't think he's coming for me.

So I kept walking, but then he kept running and there's a lot of places you can run. I know when I'm like behind somebody and it's just us I'll take a wide berth so they don't think I'm coming for them especially because you're so tall I think that's really nice of you

that's kind of frightening people so I'll be like hey hey it's okay I'm going around you on your left but this guy took a thin berth and ran right like past me like he kept running and like took my side of the street and ran right past like my like arm and so that scared me until he was past me because it was like what's this guy up until this

point and then he kept running and then i looked another thing was happening where a car that i had been frustrated with earlier in my journey um had disappeared and another car had taken the parking spot i wanted but so there was a car sitting then that's what was frustrating but it was four feet off the road so what it was as if it was waiting for somebody. You know what I mean? Oh, right, right, right, right. They were waiting for somebody in a parking spot. That's very annoying.

In this neighborhood? Again, don't say which one it is. That's not allowed. Yeah, well, I mean, if anyone's trying to do the math, it's a neighborhood with another street parallel to it. And it's hard to park here. And it's hard to park. Looking at a map, trying to figure it out so i was like

fuck this other car got the spot um and it was a great spot right across the street from here and then i looked back and the guy was gone he like disappeared the running guy yeah sure he just kept running out of my sight what kind of shoes was he wearing um in the world of vans like they might not have been vans. Don't fact check me on that. We don't fact check and we never will. We never fact check. Wow. Go ahead.

What are you going to say? You can just talk whenever you're ready. This is a nightmare for Sammy to edit out. She's not going to edit it out. It's going to be a part of it. What's your relationship to scary movies? I didn't used to seek them out. And then when Get Out came out, I went and saw it and I was like, oh, this is great.

So that's recent. Yeah, recent. And then I watched It on HBO and I was like, oh, this movie's great too. And I used to watch Scream all the time in high school I'm a big fan of the Scream trilogy and then Tetrology? Quattrology yes Quattrology but then the fourth one wasn't

like really in my quadrangle wasn't your cup of tea no I liked it I just didn't see it when it came out it wasn't like one that I had been a fan of so I'm not a gore guy. And I like jumps. You like jumps.

Okay. Opposite of Sammy. I love gore. Just kidding. But I do hate jumps. I mean, I don't like jumps, but you know, I like the experience of a jump. You don't mind the jumps on your toes. But I like it to be fun or about something.

I don't like a lot of horrors that are just horror for the sake of horror. Or at least I haven't watched a lot. Yeah, just feel bad for two hours. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen Hereditary or Babadook? Yeah, I told Emily she suggested Hereditary, and I did not care for that movie. No, Dane did not like it. That was too much.

It was too much as far as like anxiety right but i thought that it was also um i don't know i think that that guy i have to see midsummer but i think he might be like a little bit uh yeah of an exploitive director as far as like emotionally exploitive. Interesting. Oh, hot take. Hot take. Listeners, do you got thoughts? Give us a call. Don't call us. Don't call us. I feel like Sammy,

you're a big fan of Ari Aster. I am. I'm personally, I'm extremely offended. I don't like to dog on movies that people like because

it makes you feel like shit, you know? Yeah. I love that. And someone's like, I thought it sucked. And it's like, OK, I guess I'll go fuck myself. uh no but i similarly feel like i've like only gotten into horror movies recently

mine was the first one was the baba duke that i really loved and since obviously doing this podcast now i watch horror movies all the time yeah once a week once a week at least i think i don't similar baba duke and hereditary i don't really love the idea of seeing an already anxious person lose their mind for two hours that's like what i live for i love it i eat that shit up it feels like uh tough to watch it is it's it really is i cried a lot in the baba duke i cried a lot in hereditary i love to cry in movies I love them to just destroy me. Seems like, yeah, two very different, like, you're like, I want to have fun. Get spooked. But that's, I have been so interested by asking this question of people because I would think

you like scary movies, you like scary movies, but there are so many different kinds and types and like people are into them for different reasons. And yeah, that's interesting. Yeah. It's just interesting it is interesting i used to have an association with scary movies that it was like the marilyn manson crowd you know what i mean like people that like scary movies were just kind of like weirdos and they were all satanists not even satanists just like they were okay this isn't a personality yeah yeah yeah going. Yeah, it had to be

like a whole identity. And if you didn't share that identity, you didn't. I can agree with that feeling. I think it's still a mystery to me who exactly loves the gore. Like what brings them together? Freaks, losers, weirdos.

I want someone to come on and debate why gore is worth watching. I don't know. It's have a debate. I want someone to come on and debate why gore is worth watching. I don't know. It's insane to me. We labeled them freaks, but come on and defend yourselves. I don't want to alienate any listeners here, but you guys are freaks.

Trump voting gore heads are turning our podcast up right now. Trump voting gore heads. Republican or Democrat, gore loving or gore hating. We can all agree that alcohol is awesome. So let's get right into this week's cocktail hour. This week we are drinking a Corpse Reviver number two. If you listen to our Evil Dead episode, you'll remember that the Corpse Reviver series of cocktails were originally created to help cure hangovers, but we are learning about them during our zombie-adjacent films. To make a Corpse Reviver number two, you'll need absinthe, gin, triple sec, lily blanc,

and fresh lemon juice. Rinse a chilled martini glass with the absinthe and set aside add three quarters an ounce of gin three quarters an ounce of triple sec three quarters an ounce of lily blanc and three quarters an ounce of fresh lemon juice into a shaker with ice and shake and then strain into the glass you can top it with another dash of absinthe if you'd like. Cheers. Does anyone have any fun facts about this movie? Anything? One I read on IMDb,

Killian Murphy is the main guy, is that it was originally supposed to be Ewan McGregor, but he and Danny Boyle had a falling out because Ewan McGgregor was supposed to play the lead in the beach and then they replaced him with dicaprio yeah oh these are all interesting replacements to me these are like different types of men they're they are yeah they're in a world though they're supposed to be ryan gosling who i feel like is a big different type yeah wait ryan gosling was supposed to be in this movie?

Yeah. According to IMDb. Who knows how real those facts are. Which, 2002, what would that have been like in Gosling's career? I think the notebook came out. Didn't the notebook come out in like 2003? It must have been around then, right? I think.

That seems like a weird time to put him in 28 Days Later. Yeah. I guess. Especially because. I guess he made the right choice. It opens on full nudity of the guy so the fun fact that i read which this one was listed as trivia i was like this doesn't feel like trivia but um then for the nudity scenes it was a closed set okay isn't it like supposed to

always yeah that's like i read that trivia too and i was like i think that's just like being decent filmmakers um at his request yeah okay he's like being decent filmmakers at his request. Yeah. Okay. He's like, he shouldn't have to request that. That should be what you do normally. But I get why everyone would want to be there. Cillian Murphy's hot. I thought he was hot at the time because he wasn't in anything. If you don't know Cillian Murphy and haven't seen him in a movie, he is not hot. I agree.

I agree with this. No, in Peakyy blinders he has this unbelievable like presence and then you see your eyes then you see like paparazzi shots of him irish like so shriveled and like pale he is very um skinny i was trying to find a better adjective but he's just very skinny he seems like a a big dork. Like I now would find him attractive, like seeing him in movies and seeing him be charismatic and interesting and like compelling. But just on the street, you're crass in the street when that guy's walking towards you. Killeen Murphy does spend 30% of the movie either shirtless or nude.

I read that and I take umbrage with that stat. I don't think that's true. You don't think so? You think less? No, I think less. take on bridge with that stat. I don't think that's true. You don't think so? You think less? No. I think less. Less than a third? Yeah.

I don't know. Sammy really remembers those nude shots. You love that flaccid penis? Mm-hmm. Flaccid penis. Big full frontal. Thin body. Big full frontal.

I am in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. What's his name? Jason Segel. Jason Segel also does the full frontal. That's for comedy. That's for comedy. I'm just saying these movies are very similar. That's correct.

The most important trivia probably relevant to our podcast is that Stephen King is a big fan. Oh, yeah. And guess who's not a big fan of Stephen King? Us. Us. Oh, really? We have personal beef.

I can't even remember why. I don't know, but we don't like him. It was because I said that his books were boring one time. Oh, so now all of you don't like him? Yeah. Look, here's the deal with friendship. If one of us doesn't like something, we all don't like him. It's called groupthink, okay?

If Henley doesn't like him, we don't like him. We don't like him. You sound like a cult leader, Henley. Oh, what? Oh, what? All right, well, let's watch the trailer let's watch the trailer hello so who are you wake up today in hospital wake up and i'm i'm hallucinating i've got some bad news

they're infected. Infected. Infected with blood. I shouldn't have done that. It's the blood. There's something in the blood. They're dead. And you're going to be next. All right.

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torn countries like yeah uh riot police like uh uh that type of shit disturbing disturbing footage and this chimp is like strapped down being forced to watch it it's really sad oh no how realistic is the chimp i mean i think it's a's a real chimp. They all seem pretty real to me. They seemed like real. Yeah. That's really sad. And the chimp's really watching it. The chimp does the DVD commentary. Oh, yeah. And so. The chimp was like, this scene was really hard to shoot.

I really wanted to put myself through it. Yeah. The chimp had to be addressed as Rage Chimp for the whole movie. It wouldn't go by its real name uh yeah but so that then the activists are these fucking idiots these assholes it does i was like is the message here like don't don't be don't save animals because yeah they like come in and they're about to free the chimps and there's like one scientist there on like the graveyard shift or whatever and he's like don't don't don't like they're infected they're about to free the chimps. And there's like one scientist there on like the graveyard shift or whatever.

And he's like, don't, don't, don't like they're infected. They're infected. They're highly contagious. And they're like, oh, yeah, whatever. Like, we're still going to do it. And they open it. And like infected with what? I think you hear it in the trailer.

Yeah. Rage. Rage. Rage. I wouldn't take him seriously either. Yeah. You're like, dude so they open the cage and instantly i'll like get attacked and infected it's real quick so the chimp uh like attacks one woman and then she starts throwing up blood on one of the guys and then it's just like fast cutting

between like chimps going crazy in their cages and people screaming. And he says, I think he says that it's like transmitted through blood. Blood and saliva. Yeah. Blood and saliva. Which I read on IMDB also. The transmission was based on, I think, Ebola.

Ebola. Yes. And the symptoms also. Yes. But like, so the whole movie, including this scene, looks kind of like grainy and shitty. And it's all filmed. It doesn't look bad. Yeah.

And it's intentionally. Yes. It's not like they did a bad job. Right. But they shot it on like my roommate, John, was telling me this, like early digital video cameras, like the very first. He said he wanted it to be like they also were like in the apocalypse type thing. Okay.

So that all happens. Then goes to black. 28 days later, lights up Killian Murphy's naked body. Hell yeah. In the hospital. Yeah. And this is a story that I've been told. I'm co-opting it.

It's not my story. But Alex Fernie saw this movie, a guy I know through UCB, in like a packed theater in Washington, D.C. And when they show his naked body, one of the women in the theater screams out, What's he going to do with that little thing? That's a good story. And it's one of my favorites. As if he's aiming to do something with it. That's what's in the film.

You know, like in bed. You know. Right. Sure, sure, sure. It's like, woke up from a coma. Who am I going to fuck? My friend Jacob also is a different friend. Different name.

Different story. He saw Independence Day in theaters. And you know on Independence Day when there's the explosion, the dog just gets away and it jumps into the side corridor. Sure, sure, sure. It's away and it jumps into the side corridor. Sure, sure, sure. It's like near the beginning. A guy in the theater stood up and went, we got ourselves a movie now. And the whole theater started cheering.

This is why you go see movies in the theater, y'all. This is what you pay $16 for. Can I amend my scary thing this week? Can we go back? Of course. Sure. Quickly. I saw the joker in theaters or joker i also thought that was going to be my scary thing also people were truly

coming and going a lot and standing at the no edge a bunch more than any movie i've ever been to people stood in the corridor uh like throughout the movie just waiting to leave just like they went to pee but then they stopped and watched the whole scene and i never see that happening in that movie anyways what theater uh burbank amc i have that stubs pass so i have to go to all those stubs yeah i saw in the in the vista and people were like clapping and cheering at really times that were really disturbing to me. Yeah, the parts where he's being the most psychopathic. At parts where he's being fucking crazy and it like should

be really upsetting. People are like yeah! I really hated that. I was like wow, we are fucked. That movie was scary on a very real level. Yeah, I'm not gonna see it. It was upsetting. I'm just putting my foot down. Put your foot down um but so yeah he sees little dick he sees little dick and he's in the hospital and the hospital is empty it's

one of my favorite like this movie is one of my favorite like opening sequences and like final acts of yeah yeah it's so the whole movie so now he's like or the whole like opening he's like going through the hospital he's like like hello he's like super skinny and emaciated uh he's walking through london and london is totally barren well they did for real like i i looked it up because i was like this is empty london and they like shot at like 4 a.m for an hour each day like that's as long as they could hold the traffic in like piccadilly square and like like well it's just empty london street so it looks really creepy and cool and it's real yeah yeah um so then he goes into a church and um there's this image that like really stuck with me which which is it's painted on the wall.

And it says the end is fucking nigh near, you know, Shakespeare would say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like slowly reveals itself on the wall. And I did not to get into stand up, but I was watching being like, how did someone in the middle of a zombie apocalypse? Someone like got on a ladder. Like, man, I got to I got to paint this message. But I was watching being like, how did someone in the middle of a zombie apocalypse, someone like got on a ladder? Like, man, I got to I got to paint this message. Not enough time to really think it through.

Always wanted to graffiti a church. Now's the time. And so he opens the doors. And it's like filled with people that like look like corpses. And the whole time he's been yelling hello trying to like find someone and he yells hello in the church and these like two bodies like shoot up in a way that

you like know they're not like human. So they were like on the ground laying down? It was like a pile of They're like laying on top of the corpses. Ew. Ew. Ew. Yeah. And so but he's up in like a balcony area type thing, I think. Does he not see it happen? No, he does.

But he's like kind of safe-ish. Like they can't quite get to him. But then doors open right by him and the priest of the church walks out and Killian Murphy is Irish, so he's like, fodder? Fodder?

Fodder? And out and killian murphy is irish so he's like fodder fodder um and uh the priest is like has all these jerky movements and is like growling and creepy and he's doing the like sound they'll make which is like yeah and so he like as he's getting close to him realizes like oh this isn't like this isn't good and he hits him knocks him down and he's like oh i shouldn't have done that fodder sorry about that so then he runs out and he gets away right i yeah he runs away and they're all chasing him and then uh people in kind of like what looks like if you were a rioter what you might be wearing like

their whole bodies are covered their faces are covered start throwing fire bombs at those the zombies or whatever and lighting them on fire as they're chasing him wow uh and they're like come with come with us come with us and then you see them like uh open up like six uh gas valves at a gas station and they blow it up with like a thousand different angles and shots it's like we clearly shot this with 40 cameras one chance to get this explosion everybody get it and then they all go into like a convenience store and lock it up and take their masks off. And one with a guy that saves him. The first thing he says is he tells him a joke where he's like, what is it?

A man goes into a bar with a horse and a giraffe. They get they get drunk. The giraffe and the horse or the giraffe passes out. The man leaves and the bartender says, hey, you can't leave that and he goes it's not a lion it's a giraffe um i guess like i don't really know why yeah uh to test if he's human i don't know to set the tone of the group we do bits here. We don't really connect. This is all we have left.

Hiding from death. This is all we have. And so then you meet this dude and this woman. So Killian Murphy is Jim, by the way. The dude and the woman are Selena and Mark. And basically, Killian Murphy, Jim is like, you know, I just woke up and I figured I was maybe hallucinating or something. And Mark is like, well, I've got some pretty bad news for you. And like tells him kind of what happened, I think.

And then there's like rule number one, don't go anywhere alone. And rule number two, don't go anywhere at night. And like, that's kind of how long has he been out? Twenty at least twenty days i can't remember exactly what his backstory is but he's a bike messenger ended up in the hospital maybe got hit by a car i think and like was in a coma and slept through all the bad stuff woke up 28 days later we're really getting into it but like how don't worry 20 days later. We're really getting into it, but like, how Don't worry, 28 days later has another meaning later in the movie. So you're not, you didn't blow it.

It feels like a man in a coma is the perfectly most easy target for a zombie to eat. Okay, we didn't talk about it. Why is he completely naked in a coma? Don't they usually put gowns on hospital patients? What the fuck is up with this hospital? Maybe they had prepped him for surgery they were maybe prepping

and then they ran away maybe so someone might have just taken his clothes to survive but he like aggressive like he aggressively drinks like a pepsi right when he's out like he's thirsty so it gives the impression that people are taking what they can get at this point. There's a lot of Pepsi. Yeah, a lot of Pepsi. Product placement in this movie. Mars bars. Yeah.

Because they have to eat and drink things out of vending machines for the most part. And so the basic exposition they give you is it spread fast. They closed the airports down. It was chaos everywhere. Last we heard, it had spread to Paris and New York. And now there's no communication with the outside world. Your family's probably dead. Our families are dead.

Everyone you know is probably dead. What a fucking thing to wake up to. Yeah. That's crazy. And he still wants to see his family. Yeah, he's like, I gotta go. He wants to go to his house. I gotta go home.

We can walk there. And they, like, for some reason, agree to go with him. Mm-hmm. We can walk there. And they like for some reason agree to go with him. And they go to his house and his parents are dead in the bed. It's the sweetest. It really is sad.

They're like holding each other. They have overdosed intentionally, like killed themselves. And they're holding a photo of him as like a little boy. No. And they wrote on the back of it, with so much love we left you sleeping. Now we're sleeping too with you and like don't wake up. Yeah. Very poetic.

Whoa. That's really just hit me hard. Yeah. It's sad. Sounds like they made the right call. Yeah. I mean that's what I would do for sure. Probably what I would do. I've always said that. If there's a major apocalypse, goodbye. You'd give up.

Oh, my God. I give up so fast. Yeah. I don't want to live in that world. Are you fucking kidding me? Well, I mean, if the alternative is to be eaten alive by another human. Or to be surrounded by death and like disease and running for your life at all times. Fuck, no.

Yeah. You'd be waiting for your sixth lift before you just get killed by something. I'm like, I can't even get a lift in this apocalypse. Fucking Hollywood Bowl. Is there a concert tonight? Oh, my God. That was rude.

Okay, so he discovers his dead parents so then they're kind of getting provisions from the house they're like if you have clothes here take um and he goes to the kitchen and he starts having a memory that he's kind of like mouthing his responses to like he's remembering his parents getting home from the grocery store and like unloading groceries and like um it's this kind of like flashback and then right in the middle of it uh zombie smashes through the window and it was like the biggest jump scare for me of the whole thing what i think is interesting about the whole movie and that part is the first example of it is most horror movies are like build fake scare build real scare and that movie's kind of all about to me at least like what i took away from it is that

you're not in life you're not prepared for things to all of a sudden be terrible forever right it's not like a slow build of tension usually when something scares you the world is different you're in your kitchen and all of a sudden you've been attacked by a zombie. There's parts later where things just like change irrevocably like this and it's not as if the music is indicating it's about to.

You're really comfortable. True. And then all of a sudden. I did not see it coming. There's something. Yeah, that's so interesting because we've talked a lot about how like the build of tension is what makes movies so hard to watch. It's like ripping off a bandit and it's like, oh, the thing happened and I didn't even know. Yeah, all of a sudden there's a zombie here. So they kill the zombies and then Mr. Funny Guy Mark.

Oh, no. Looks down and he's got an open wound on his arm. Oh, no. And the woman, what's her name again? Selene. Selene is like, did it bite you? Did it bite you? Were you bit or whatever?

And he like gives her this like desperate look and she just takes her like machete and just fucking kills him. She chops off his arm at the cut. She chops off his arm. And then she like. No, but she just straight up kills him. Then she full on. I thought at first I was like, oh, she's like chopping off his arm to save his life. And then I was like, oh, no, she's just killing him. And and Jim is like, well, you didn't know if he was infected.

And she was like, his eyes like told me that he was. And somewhere in here, they say you have only like 10 seconds before they become like a crazed rage zombie. So you have to kill them like immediately. And do they indicate what? I mean, we fire and he could be killed because you have to like chop off their head i think probably the brain stem thing i don't know i don't know i don't know that they ever fully say it but like the fire kills um chopping them up kills them there's never a point in the movie where they kill one and it comes back like that's not a thing it seems like they're still human but they do seem

to like chop them up pretty pretty good yeah yeah that's true i do not like that at not a thing it seems like they're still human but they do seem to like chop them up pretty pretty good yeah yeah that's true i do not like that at all so then they have a conversation about her being like hey if you're infected i'll kill you in a second and you better do the same for me she's like a hard ass she's saying yep is that amy harris yep gosh she's cool she's very cool she's really cool. So that's a little bit like getting to know you, whatever. And then they see lights. Is this right?

Yep. Yep. Yep. The Christmas lights up in like a high rise building. They see like some flashing Christmas lights and they're like, OK, let's go check that out. So they go into this building. What else are you going to do? Yeah.

I mean, all you can do is like try to find other survivors, I guess. Yeah. But usually the other survivors are where the problems come from. Right. If you watch Walking Dead, the survivors are just as much a threat. Humans are the real evil ones. Humans are as bad as zombies. Humans are bad.

Anyway, so they go up into this high rise building and as they're like, I feel like halfway up the stairs they hear well first he gets tired he gets really tired he's like i have a headache she's like you're crashing all you've had is sugar yeah uh you just got a coma whatever she gives him more she gives yeah she's like she's just like all i can give you is more sugar. Yeah, more sugar. And then they hear zombies. They hear noise and you see that zombies are breaking in and they're like halfway up the huge flights of stairs. There's no else to go.

So they start running and she's, it's indicated that she's ahead of him. So the whole time he's like, don't leave me. Wait. Cause he's, they've just told you he's exhausted. So he's like trying to catch up to her. Really worst possible scenario for waking up out of. I'm sure you immediately have to be athletic for your life. You should immediately have to be athletic.

That's the nightmare. I truly like that. I've always thought about that fact of like, oh, in the zombie apocalypse, I'm just going to be too out of shape to do anything. I'm just not prepared for like long-term sprinting yeah also like even the machete that sounds like a lot of work it's exhausting bad shoulders yeah again why we are all killing ourselves immediately yeah i want to see it through i admire that that's good i think maybe our survival instincts would kick in more than more than we try more than we think but i just don't know

it sounds sounds bad so they're running upstairs they run into a guy in like swat gear and they run past him and he's fending off the zombies and they get to like a screen door or whatever for an apartment and they're knocking on it and this girl's on the other side and she's like where's my dad it's not her accent no i don't know where's yeah she's just british where's my dad and the guy the guy eventually throws the zombies off they get into the he's like you can let him in they go inside and it's kind of this like apartment just this domestic thing yeah it's just a father and daughter that have been holed up brendan gleason um he is his name is frank

and his daughter is hannah where's my date where's my date where's my date? Where's my date? Where's my date? She's Australian. Where's my date? And he pours them some creme de menthe. They get to know each other. Oh, lovely. Find out her mom died, right? His wife. I don't know why I looked at you. Brendan Gleeson

is like, basically like I've picked up a signal from an army base or something it's always an army base yeah it's an army base and they play the signal and it's like radio communication is gonna come in big in the apocalypse yeah oh you got it yeah uh and they say the the we've found the answer for the oh Oh, right. Like the antidote. They don't say antidote because that becomes important later. But they say like the answer for it is here or something like that.

Vague communication. Brendan Gleeson. You see a scene between Selena and Jim where she's like, hey, they need us more than we need them. We can't stick with them, whatever. And then Brendan Gleeson's like, the walls here are thin. I know you need us. We need you more than you need us we can't stick with them whatever and then that brandon gleason's like the walls here are thin i know you need us but we need you more than you need us but then his daughter's like that's not true dad they need us as much as we need she's like luna lovegood she kind of is from harry potter i don't know her yeah a little bit

i don't know i don't know she that big guy't know her. I don't know her. I don't know her. I don't know her. Is she that big guy with the beard? Yeah, she's Dumbledore. Doesn't matter. It's confusing. Doesn't matter. Different podcast. Different podcast. A lot of people have two names in those movies.

Tom Riddle. Lord Voldemort. That's the one you know, so you know a little something. I did a scene from that in my Creating the Villain class in college. Oh. Ooh. That's right. So, yeah, they decide to all band together and go follow this signal and try to find

this army base. Brendan Gleeson is a cab driver and has a cab. And I'd say we're in act two. We're in the fun and games part of the movie here. Yeah, they're having some fun. Everyone can relax. There's some hope. There's some hope. Yeah. There's some joy. We're in the fun and games part of the movie. Yeah, they're having some fun. Everyone can relax. There's some hope. There's some hope.

Yeah. Some joy. We found each other. And there is... You guys saying that means that there will not be hope later. Well, I would... Well, it gets dark. How old is the kid?

I don't know why that, but that's important. She seems like a teenager. Oh, okay, okay. So she's not a little... No, she's like, yeah, probably like 14, 15. Not to overly set it up, but old enough to be used to make babies by evil men.

Oh, this point goes there. It goes there. Emily has a shocked look on her face. So they get to a tunnel. Killian Murphy is like, let's not go through the tunnel. Don't go through a fucking tunnel.

I thought this was very crazy. And Selene is like,'s let's not go through the tunnel. Like don't go through a fucking tunnel. This is crazy. Yeah. I agree. This was very crazy and Selene is like it's the shortest route or the like quickest path to get to where we need to go and Brendan Gleeson is just like let's fucking do it and he like floors it. He floors it. He takes this cab and drives over a pile of cars and

like detritus and just whatever and they're all laughing and going crazy and then they hit the ground sparks fly flat tire oh of course they're in the middle of this tunnel in the tunnel still oh motherfucker yeah and then as um little hannah is under the car trying to change the tire like the, like the skilled mechanic she is. Yeah, it's become kind of clear here that he's probably been training her. Yeah.

Like she knows how to change a tire. Um. And then a like sea of rats starts running towards them and running past them. Like it doesn't stop. Oh, that's never a good time. And then they realize they're running from something and start seeing the shadows on the walls and hearing the noises

of the zombies coming and they're like, the rats are running from the undead or whatever. And they're like, but they have to like finish changing the tire. That's such a fun trope of like seeing a thing and be like, oh no, there's something worse. Big time in Jurassic Park that happens, right? Big time in Jurassic Park. So they right? Big time in Jurassic Park.

So they all lift the car up and she changes the tire or is changing the tire while they're all coming. And they're like, hala, hala. Hala. Almost done. She changes it. They hop in the car. They speed away while the zombies are like punching through the... I don't think they've punched through the car, but they're like there.

They're there. They're like hitting... They make it in the nick of time. Nick of time. They barely escape. And they go to a supermarket and it's Fun and Games with a very fun song. I don't know what the song is. I don't know what the song is either.

But it is like such a delightful song. Ooh, I'm curious about the song. It it's like do you think you remember it no not at all later okay it's like uh no i can't do it i'm like almost tone deaf so um but it's got like a real playful like children's music vibe. So they're in there. They get to get some supplies that they haven't had in a long time, like non-sugar based chocolate and soda. And then they go out perfectly syncopated through the checkout line. And Brendan Gleeson leaves his credit card just on the thing and they walk out.

What a fun joke. He doesn't need it. What a commentary about capitalism. It's a real commentary. And then I feel like shortly after Celine and Jim have a conversation where earlier she had said like basically surviving is as good as it gets

and then she says to him as she's like watching Frank and his daughter like having a nice moment she's like watching Frank and his daughter, like having a nice moment. She's like, oh, like I was wrong. Surviving is not as good as it gets. And maybe like there's still like joy to be had in this world. Oh, I miss that.

Yeah. It's like a nice moment. And she like gives him a really quick kiss on the cheek. Yeah. And she's like, sorry, sorry. Yeah. There's like just a nice little romantic moment. Oh, you'd still be horny during the apocalypse, right? I, there's like just a nice little romantic moment. Uh-oh.

You'd still be horny during the apocalypse, right? I think so. I think you'd be horny. Right? Doesn't like intensity and like base human instinct bring that out of you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd be like back to basics. You'd be like survival.

I just got a survival thought. Food, sex. Yeah. Especially if you haven't had it for 28 days, potentially. 28 days! Or more. Or more! Your animal brain is really kicking in.

Your lizard brain. Lizard brain. What if it happened, like, right at the beginning of December, and you were doing No Nut November, and it's like, oh. No Nut November? I'm sorry, this is the first. I'm hearing of No Nut November. No Nut November is you spend all of November not November I've never heard of this either

Not ejaculating Or nutting I don't know it became popular on the internet Like a child you know no shave November Yeah it became like a reddit Or like an internet thing Sure yeah Anything's possible on the internet

Can you imagine if you got into that accident And went into your coma on November 30th? Right after November. That means you haven't met him for two months. And now you got Selena, who is attractive and confident and intense. You see her kill a man. He could have had some coma wet dreams. That's possible, right?

Oh, that's true. Oh, I wonder if that's a thing. It's probably a thing. Do you think that's a thing you have to clean up? I bet you don't clean it up. I mean, why would you bother? I'm sure the nurses would clean it up. Nurses would have to clean it up.

It could create better disease. Let's get a nurse on the pod. No, they would. I have a friend that's a nurse. And that specific thing hasn't happened, but she does like clean, you bathe them like every day. That's true. It's a nurse and that specific thing hasn't happened, but she does like clean, you bathe them like every day. That's true. It's a lot of bodily fluids happening.

Yeah. Um, okay. So yeah, they're just having. We're definitely done with that topic. What other months could you not nut in? There's no jack up January. No jack up June, July. No jack up June, July. No jack up June, July. No fuck February.

No fuck February. No masturbate March. No making it March. No making it. No anal April? No anal April. It's so hard to get through.

April's tough. I wish it had been February, a shorter month. April's so hard to get through. April's tough. I wish it had been February, a shorter month. April's really tough. I don't choose to observe the April one. No sucking it September. No sucking it. That's interesting because all of them have been

a thing that your body doesn't do, but sucking it is like you do it to someone else. That's an because all of them have been a thing that your body doesn't do. But sucking it is like you do it to someone else. That's an active one. Yeah. Like no nut is like you don't yourself nut, but sucking it is like someone else. But you cum in anal. When you're sucking it, you don't cum.

Oh, right. I see. No sucked off September. No sucked off September. There it is. Emily, I'm so glad you changed that. I had to make it fit the theme. What's this movie about?

Anywho, where are we? What's happening? We kind of are getting to this stuff. Yeah, we're getting to some good stuff. They get to the army base. Should we go to there? Yeah, we get there. We can't get there. Yeah, they do get to

the base there's they see some horses jim has a dream that everyone left him yep a easter egg is laid that selena has um uh a vicodin what does she have i think Okay. Some kind of prescription pill. So that they can sleep. Oh. They like can't sleep one night. They take it. Mm-hmm. They go to a diner. Jim, they're filling up gas and Jim goes in the diner just out of curiosity. And he's in there and a little boy pops out of nowhere. An alien little boy.

Alien. Oh, there's aliens too. He chops up the little boy. Oh, no. But does it like secretly without telling anyone. Because he doesn't want to embarrass himself because she's like don't go in there like why are you going in there dummy and he like

can't help it. Yeah and he's like well I gotta look cool in front of my lady friend. What happened in there and he's like nothing. Nothing. So then they get to the base and it's empty. Nobody there. Oh, man.

Oh, heartbreaking. Did they hear the transmission or they just heard it secondhand? It was a recording. Yes, they heard it. The transmission was like a replayed recording. But all four of them heard it together. Right, okay. But yes, it was a recording.

So they go there. It's empty. Frank, Brendan Gleeson is like- He's like pissed. Pissed. You could say he's in a bit of a rage. He's in a bit of a rage He's in a bit of a rage Oh no And he's kind of stormed off away

From the rest of them and kind of Sulking in like a little corner somewhere And he hears like a crow There's like a crow above him You see the shot from above that a crow Is like pecking at a corpse And He's like getting mad like

yeah like yelling at the bird like get out of here and so he like walks directly under the corpse and is like looking up and this is like the one thing I remember from seeing it the first time I would say it's the most iconic image from the movie yes and this is very Danny Boyle thing like he likes to

like film things from inside a thing like he does this in 127 Hours 2 where it's like a film from It's filmed from the drop. He's a nasty bitch. It's like POV from the drop of blood that drops down from this corpse into

Brendan Gleeson's eye. No! He just gets a drop of blood in the eye. Why are you standing under a corpse? It was a bad idea for sure. His rage is the best of them. He's about to pay the price. Oh no. And so he has one last little

sad moment with his daughter because his daughter hears a commotion and comes over and is like, Dad? What was her accent again? Dad? Dad? Dad? Dad? So he's kind of far away all the time. Dad. Dad.

Dad. So she comes over and he like says like, I love you so much. Like, don't ever forget how much I love you. But like, get away from me. And she's like, what are you talking about? And like comes to try to like comfort him. And he like throws her. Get away from me. comfort him and he like throws her and like

Jim and Celine come over to like grab her and like start realizing that he's infected because it happens real quick and Celine's like kill him kill him kill him Jim and Jim can't do it and then all of a sudden these

army men like unload on him like they pop up from out of nowhere all camouflaged and it's like would And then all of a sudden these army men like unload on him. Like, like they pop up from out of nowhere. I'll camouflage. Like would have been nice if they showed up 10 minutes earlier. Absolutely. A little disrespectful. Yeah.

Sleeping on the job. So he's dead. And now we're moving into humans or the human world. And they drive them to the base and there's like this now like constant tension and anxiety like there's something just a little off about all the men well it's also just like yeah it's like nine soldiers like men all men and this is obviously like the first women they've seen in a long time The guy makes a radio thing and he, a radio thing. He like raises the bass and he's like, we've got one man and two women.

I repeat, one man and two women. And it's like, uh oh. Yeah. So they take him to the bass and the like general is like nice to them, but it seems a little off the whole time. And he's showing them around. to them but it seems a little off the whole time and he's showing them around and um uh they have like they like talk about how it's like booby trapped with like mines in the yard they show them like they have like one of their previously turned soldiers like chained up um like uh so yeah

they open the door to outside and all of a sudden this zombie runs up to jim like right in front of his face like they do with like pit bulls and movies on a chain and it stops right in front of him and he's like like tasmanian devil style and they like say that they're trying to see how long they take to starve to death yeah they're like testing it yeah okay what a fun test cool guys really smart so then they have a dinner and there's this big special moment where this goofy idiot who is wearing a woman's apron cooking the food like reveals that their dinner is eggs. The general eats the eggs and he's like, did you happen to, when you were making the eggs, see if they had turned?

And he's like, throw them out, get rid of them. And he's like, gets really pissed off out of nowhere. He's like, I thought cooking them would cover the disgusting taste. Yeah, it's like salt or whatever in cooking them. Yeah, salt. And then the general and his sergeant have a little intense argument over the future, basically. I can't even remember what it is, but it's like a thesis of the two characters. And it gives you the impression that the sergeants a little more emotionally aware then suddenly an alarm goes off and all the soldiers go and like unload on all of

these zombies that are coming in and the zombies like running over mines that are exploding and the soldiers are like whatever and they're in this mansion it's not it's not like a base they're in a mansion now oh interesting okay but they're like hyped up on it, they're like, oh yeah Like we killed all those zombies One of the guys kills one and he goes, fucking hell Fucking Hell Are they all on like drugs or something

Or are they just crazy people I think it's just kind of supposed to be like cabin fever Okay, okay It took these men 28 days to get horny and insane Oh, that's not long at all. No. That's, I mean, about the length of a No Nut November. Yeah.

Stay away from anybody doing a No Nut November. You don't want to be around around the 28th of November. And so then after they've killed, they've come in, like, feeling hot off this zombie murder. Oh, no. They've come in like feeling hot off this zombie murder. Oh, no. And the guy takes the... Selene has a machete and the guy takes it from her and kind of like holds her against him.

And they're doing jokes with the machete being a dick, you know, whatever. And the sergeant who was like seemed a little more emotional earlier punches that fucking fuck, the fucking L guy in the face. to get him off of celine and then the general comes in and is like uh why don't we do like what's your next point of order after the zombies or whatever and they're like clear the bodies and he's like we'll get to it and so they all go. But then he has a moment with Jim where he's like, hey, like. Just FYI, all my men were pretty hopeless because what future is there with just like nine men in a mansion? And like, I promised them women. And when there's women, there's a few there can be a future.

So like just a heads up, like we're going to need these women. there can be a future so like just a heads up like we're gonna need these women kind of what the whole movie's been slowly setting up is that jim is like kind of a meek man right yeah yeah he won't kill uh brendan gleason when the thing happens he's like very like scared when he punches the priest he kills that little boy and that's kind of a turn for him and the so at this point the general is like uh who have you killed and he's like what he's like you wouldn't be alive now if you haven't killed someone and he's like i killed a little boy whatever and so they have this moment and things escalate to the point where he's like you're not gonna fuck our women uh yeah so he stands up to him yeah i think

they just get in a fight and they like knock. I think it's angry. They knock him out. Does he like get angry? Yeah. And they knock him out. And then he wakes up and the general and the guy in the or not the general, the fucking L guy and the guy in the apron that made the bad eggs are driving them out into the middle of nowhere. All of them are just Jim and the sergeant.

And so then they go, they come up to a mound of dead bodies and they have a gun with a knife on it and the sergeant's like uh what you're gonna stick me i'm your sergeant like you should shoot me like a man shoot me but the fucking hell guy wants to stick him with the knife and the sergeant's like oh come on he like spits they both spit. And then the apron guy who's been like kind of a doofus the whole time and kind of like a weak man. He shoots the sergeant before the guy can stick him with the knife. So they kill a sergeant?

Yeah, they're going to kill both of them. But like the sergeant just because he was not into raping the women. He's been not on board for raping the women the whole time. And so then the falcon ale jumps on the the like the apron guy and is mad at him is like punching yelling at him and then they turn around and jim's gone and he's like hopped over like a barbed wire first before that they run to find him and then he's he like sits up and he's been laying in the pile of corpses.

Oh. Pretending to be a corpse. Right. Damn. But then when he runs away and hops over the barbed wire wall, then they think of that and they just unleash all these bullets onto the pile of corpses. Just to be safe? Just to be safe. And then they like-

They're just shooting anywhere. And then they notice the barbed wire has been moved and they're like, oh, he got over the wall. And what's on the barbed wire has been moved and they're like, oh, he got over the wall. And what's on the barbed wire? Blood. His shirt. Oh, hell yeah. So my man is about to be shirtless for the rest of Act 3. Dan, Act 3, would you say

is a third of the film? It is a third of the film. Well, no, Act 3 is typically shorter. A little bit shorter. He was naked earlier, so do we feel like it's maybe... He was naked in Act 1, but not for that long. It was like 30 seconds. I don't know.

He's kind of short on for most of Act 2. And so this is like... Is that guy's name Ari Aster? Yeah. This is the thing I've noticed about him, the writer. Like this movie, Sunshine is like this. Annihilation is like this. Oh, this writer is Alex Garland.

Alex Garland. Sorry. Ex Machina is like this. Yeah. He really likes that third act to hit a ramp. Yeah. It's just like, all right. Yeah.

He does so much build. And then it's just like this is crazy now. And like so once he's up the fence, it's like next level. I fucking love it. Is the music what's signaling it or I mean you'll tell us what happens.

Lightning, thunder, and Godspeed you black emperor is now pumping. And the shirt's off. The shirt's off. So he starts twirling the alarm from earlier. So it's like... We cut back to the house.

The guys are like intimidating the women. Something's about to happen there. There's a good scene with the women where they're like trying to... They're putting them into dresses. They're trying to make them nice. They're trying to dress them up. These fucking freaks why did they survive um losers weirdos i bet they're all gore heads oh they're definitely these guys are definitely trump gore heads i

would bet you fucking money um but so uh celine like convinces them to like give them the room to change one of the guys and she's like you need to let us alone in here like leave us alone so we can change then we'll do whatever you want and so they leave them alone and she starts giving hannah pills and hannah's like are you trying to kill me and she's like no i'm trying to make it so that you don't care about what's about to happen um that's brutal so yeah then it all like culminates and i'm not a bloodlust guy i don't really like love revenge movies but i love this one um and killian murphy turns full zombie like he turns rage like he doesn't turn into a zombie but he like but he go he becomes pretty satisfying

he becomes like the attacker the aggressor yeah the sergeant comes with one guy and he kills that guy and puts him in a jeep and the sergeant's like calling after the guy opens the jeep door and just sees the guys with like a stab wound in his head with a stab wound and so then the sergeant just starts unloading into nowhere right and all these zombies start coming for the sergeant just starts unloading into nowhere. Right. And all these zombies start coming for the sergeant or the general or whatever. The asshole guy. Yeah, the asshole. And then we go to the house and we see Killian. He's like a slinking around.

Like now he's like, you know, figured it all out. And he's just on one. Like he unleashes the guy that's locked up in the back. The chain guy. The chain zombie. He lets him go. Yeah. And that's the guy in the preview, if you remember, who like shows up in the back. The chain guy. The chain zombie. He lets him go. Yeah. And.

And that's the guy in the preview if you remember. Who like shows up in the window with his eyes all red. Yes. He like pops up out of nowhere. And it's. It just becomes 15 minutes of vengeance. Yeah. It's like him going.

How does he guarantee that that zombie guy doesn't get. He just. It's a real risk. He's watching. Risk his plane. He unleashes him. And the other guys are like. So.

The zombie kills one guy. And then another guy is just like screaming and is like, fuck. Oh, fuck. And it goes for that guy. And then the women run away. And so they're kind of constantly just being smarter about it. They're like escaping. It's sort of like been out in it more than those.

Those guys have had like guns in a fortress. But then Hannah also is like drugged up at this point. In like a quinceañera dress. And so she's like, it a fortress. But then Hannah also is like drugged up at this point. In like a quinceañera dress. And so she's like, it's fine. She's just so chill and relaxed. And then she wanders off into a bathroom while a zombie man is loose. And she hears him coming. And then it comes into the bathroom

and she has stood up behind like a standalone mirror. Like a floor-length mirror. Yeah, a floor-length mirror. She's like standing behind it. standalone mirror. Like a floor length mirror. Yeah, a floor length mirror. She's like standing behind it. Hannah? Drugged Hannah? Yeah. There's this scene where he is coming up to the mirror, seeing his own reflection as she's

on the other side. Oh, cool. And he's just like. But she's holding herself up too because it's one of those mirrors where like it doesn't touch the floor. Oh. Because it's on a stand. So she's like her arms are shaking, like holding her weight up so that her feet are not visible from the bottom.

She's so strong, even on Vicodin. I know. She's amazing. But then, yeah, he walks out. She tricks him. Oh, she tricks him. I thought she was going to kill him. No, she just tricks him.

And then fucking hell guy is like- He's still alive? He runs back into Selene and and is like maybe going to assault her and what a time to assault someone that's the time to do that sure jim jumps in through the window and they have a whole thing and jim like that like smashes his head against the wall gets on top of him and does the fingers into the eyeballs. Oh my god. It's like the most realistic looking one I feel like I've seen. I have no idea how they did it.

I don't know how they did it. It's close up and you just see his thumbs in the eye holes. I don't like it. Basically, Selene is scared because he's so far gone at this point she has the like machete at the ready to kill jim in the mirror of the earlier moment in the kitchen where she kills her friend

she hesitates she looks him in the eyes and doesn't have the moment where she can where he he can tell he's been infected and And so she doesn't kill him. And he goes, because she says earlier, well, we should have signed up, but she's like, you know, I kill you in a heartbeat. And he goes, that was more than a heartbeat. Oh! He's not finding time to be sexy!

You better believe it's the time. In the midst of it all, I mean, what's he going to do with that little thing is the question, but in the midst of it all I mean what's he gonna do with that little thing is the question but in the midst of it all they start like aggressively making out with each other there's still there's still bad guys around I mean but now's

the time and then there's a gotta seize the moment when it's there yeah you see footsteps you see the door opening uh and so there's like a shocking moment but then it turns out to be Hannahannah uh hi hannah in her dress and so now it's time for them to make their escape and they get to the car and the general is sitting in the driver's seat and he shoots killian murphy no that motherfucker and then he starts driving away uh the uh one of the earlier released zombies

uh hannah like sends in his direction for some reason as he's trying to drive away he's in the back seat and hannah's driving yeah yes i do remember she how does he end up in the back seat though i don't know but oh maybe he's just been there maybe he's been in the back seat and hannah is like in the front seat and they're both out of the car and they're like screaming like hannah like get out of the car he's like dangerous she's all high as shit and she's high as shit and she just she like reverses like in full speed she reverses it to a zombie zombie breaks the back window and like rips him out yeah yeah that's right that's right the chained up guy from earlier yeah yeah yeah so then they all get in the car they're driving uh in their escape as i think they're being chased maybe and the gate's locked and so she's like we're just go for going for it yeah she hits it and in a shot that is very not in the tone or style of the movie uh in the

back seat selena and jim they she crashes windows break they go shooting forward and the camera freezes yellow freeze frame on their faces as they're shooting forward and then uh cuts to black the cuts to black and then there's quick cutting of hospital stuff i can't remember because i've seen the deleted ending and the actual actual deleted ending it shows them like in a hospital with a cart right yeah it's like they're like yelling and it's like really like chaotic and you don't know what's happening it's quick cuts and then goes to black and then 28 days later and now again yeah second time and there's like an idyllic field because jim's been shot that's what all the hospital stuff is uh and it's like an idyllic field because Jim's been shot. That's what all the hospital stuff is. And it's like, whatever.

It looks like Scottish Highlands or like English, like whatever. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. And then you see Jim laying, this time in a bed, in like a little farmhouse. With a gown. Clothed. Clothed. And he kind of wakes up and there's no curtains.

And he goes, oh the curtains too and you're like and outside there there's there's all this fabric like sheets and curtains and stuff and it says hell uh but it's like a bright day and whatever wait it says hell what do you mean it's like in sheets okay into really big like letters um but they've also you've also seen that as it's panned to the house there are the there are zombies but they're like dehydrated and dying looking and so the implication is like they're starting to the thing that was set up earlier how long do they can they last without eating like they're starting to die yeah um and then you hear a plane yeah and it well she's like at a sewing machine

she uh she brings out the curtains she was talking about and then it says hello hello and a plane flies oh they're like are you sure you hear something i hear something yeah uh and a plane flies over and you like hear a transmission on the plane and like finish or something like that that and then the movie ends ends on a positive note yeah that's good it's the three of them together we think what's that

they're all alive a new family there was something to live for yay this is the first one I wanted to clap after it is a nice ending it is a nice ending

I would say it's I was watching it and I was like this isn't it is a horror movie but as I was watching it I was like oh it's less of a horror movie than I remember it yeah because I hadn't seen it since it I think since it came out and I remember being really terrified of it but now that I'm a huge horror movie expert

and watch so many horror movies, I was like, this one's not that scary. To be completely honest, I'd never thought of this movie as a horror movie. Well, I mean. Yeah, it was a bad choice. I agree. I'm sorry. No, but.

That's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. No, but I like. I thought of it more of like in the Walking Dead vein, which is very scary, but not necessarily like horror in my very subjective personal opinion. And I feel like when it came out, I've never seen it. There was like review quotes that were like scariest movies since The Exorcist. So it like was a big deal and it was scary.

But yeah, I guess just I think because it became so normalized, all the zombie stuff became so normalized afterwards. I was wondering, do you think if it hadn't been for this movie, Killian Murphy would have still become a successful, famous actor? Um, yes, I think so. Yeah, I do. I think that he has the perfect mix of being both a beautiful man who looks like kind of like a beautiful woman and also is very good at acting and has a very commanding presence. I love Cillian Murphy. Is he this

beautiful blue eyes? Yes, he is. He is like a little scary looking. Yeah. Did you ever see Red Eye? Probably not. He's supposed to be like real creepy. I didn't see that. Ooh, that's one I haven't thought about in a long time. Yeah. That's with Rachel McAdams, right? I think I might be like real creepy. I didn't see that. Oh, that's one I haven't thought about in a long time. Yeah.

But I did see it. That's with Rachel McAdams, right? Yeah. I think I might be attracted to him. I am definitely attracted to him. He like really sticks with me. Yeah. There is something really like so specific about him that is striking.

I like really interesting, ugly, hot people. That's exactly what he is. Yeah. Yeah. It's to be both ugly and hot is special yeah yeah maybe ugly is too much i don't want to be so like traditional looking non-traditional looking freaky hot freaky hot kelly murphy is freaky hot he's freaky hot so He's freaky hot. So hot it's freaky. So you got your, you have the opportunity to spend a night with

Ewan McGregor, Ryan Gosling, or Cillian Murphy. Oh my god. I think I'm going Cillian Murphy. Cillian Murphy, Ryan Gosling. I think I pick Ryan Gosling. Really? Yeah. Ryan Gosling, yeah. I mean, he would be second for me.

But I think Cillian Murphy's hotter. I don't know that Ryan Gosling yeah I mean he's Would be second for me but I think Kelly Murphy's hotter I don't know that Ryan Gosling would do Intense sexually but I Don't think he'd do anything that you would enjoy I don't think that experience I don't think the Experience is about you at all It's all about him

It's all about him Ryan Gosling does famously Not have his real voice He has a fake voice that he's developed His like New York voice that he does Kind of What changed is it like the The timber

The timber Or is it like the accent Because I don't mind if you change your accent I don't think it's an accent necessarily I think it's probably an octave He has an affected voice which i think speaks to probably the way that he'd have sex with you too you think you'd have affected sex yeah exactly like what's that um just not real just not real like like so intentional yeah like the cameras on him all the time presentational so performative

performative but Killian Murphy I don't know he's such a like what was your answer was Ryan Gosling I said Ryan Gosling instinctually but then you immediately started questioning but then part of me regrets that decision uh Dan

Killian Murphy yeah I think I might I don't know whether it's why you asked the question I think Ryan Gosling I don't know whether it's... Seems like that's why you asked the question, Dan. I think Ryan Gosling's really attractive, too. Yeah. But I think I would never be fully comfortable with him. Ryan Gosling? Yeah.

Hmm. Yeah. Well, would you see it? Would you see this movie? I really think I would see this one. Yeah. I was going to say, do you guys have any scariest parts? I don't know.

I don't love the eye part. I don't love chopping with a machete. But I'm intrigued. It sounds really fun. Quick moments that maybe you could just cover your eyes for. None of the gore, I would say it's all, I might be wrong about this, but it's majority implied, right? Oh, interesting.

You do see blood, but it's not like what I would call gratuitous necessarily. I agree. I don't think I will, but it's not like what I would call gratuitous necessarily. I agree. Other than the fingers. I don't think I will, but I may be good. I think I probably am going to see it. I've wanted to actually see this movie.

This is one I've actually wanted to see. Maybe I'll watch it with you. We could do it. We might do it. I would say it's worth it for the beginning where he's alone and the third act. The third act sounds fucking fun. I'm really not i don't want to come off as a violent loving person but i think that third act is really tight just thank you like it sounds like

they built it so well to like really make it satisfying right yeah you guys should watch it okay well thank you guys for walking us through it oh my god every second of it so you guys just this podcast is just you listening yeah what a weird thing to do don't you dare come to my house and do my podcast be rude to me about the hollywood bull alien listeners and tell us our podcast is stupid i didn't say it was stupid i would if i was in your position it was weird i would be like oh i wish i did more that's that's what i tell people they're like what do you do in the podcast and i'm like well i don't have much to do yeah for me it's great i get to talk the whole time that's great as a guest but it's so funny for you too guests have disagreed our good friend joel hated the idea that he had talked the whole time. So different people appreciate different things.

I don't like leaving feeling like I talked over everybody like I just did to you right now. I like not having to talk. That's a plus for me. Strange I chose to do a podcast, huh? Yeah, it's a pretty oral medium. Pretty oral medium. Oral. Oral.

Oral. So you don't like leaving having talked over people, but you feel good about it. Why would you use a question?

I know, I think he's fine with it. Dan, Dan, closing thoughts? The thing about me is I don't.

Dan, here's what we're going to do. I always close this podcast by saying goodbye. And you know what? Right before I do

I will let you talk over me to end this episode what am I doing and goodbye goodbye thanks for listening to another episode of too scary didn't watch hope you had as great of a time as we did with Dan.

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