Too Scary; Didn't Watch - A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET with Peter Lozano and Scott Youngbauer

Episode Date: September 2, 2020

Drunk parents, finger knives, and 500 gallons of fake blood - we're recapping A Nightmare on Elm Street! This week our guests Peter Lozano and Scott Youngbauer (hosts of Movies that Made Us Gay) fill us in on all things Freddy Krueger. Join us if you dare, but whatever you do...don't fall asleep! Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I am also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I like watching scary movies, and I like telling my two scared friends all about them. That's what we do. That's what we do. That's what we're here for. That's what we do. That's what we've been doing week to week. What is up? What is up, Henley, Sammy? What's going on with you? I have a scary thing. Oh oh no oh an actually scary thing yeah you guys know it but i can expand on it to surprise to surprise

even you know you will be surprised oh okay um so first there was a spider inside my computer, which was very weird. Never heard of that happening before. Between the glass and the screen. I think what happened is it must have snuck in the vent in the back. Yes. And like somehow gotten between. Yeah, the display screen. And I thought I was going to have to rip off the screen of the computer and get in there.

And someone actually did say that the same thing happened to them. And the Apple store charged them $600 to get the spider out of their computer. No. No. Oh, Lord. Anyways, I just chose to ignore the problem. And guess what, guys? It worked. Great advice. Great just chose to ignore the problem. And guess what, guys? It worked.

Great advice. Great advice. Just ignore the problem. You translate that to any problem you could ever have. Emotional. It doesn't matter. Just ignore it. Just ignore it.

And the next morning it was gone. So it was great. So that means there's a dead spider in your computer somewhere. Possibly. But I can't see it. Or it crawled out and died. Or crawled out and lived. That's died. Or crawled out and lived. Or it crawled out and lived.

It could be alive. I wish it the best. It was very, Sammy, it was very jarring seeing that video of it being inside your computer. There was something about that that was like, it was like, this isn't real. We're living in an alternate reality with a spider in a computer. It was like the ring. It was like the this isn't real. We're living in an alternate reality with a spider in a computer.

It was like the ring. It was like the ring when the fly is in the TV screen and then it pulled out into the real world. It was very weird. Henley did make a perfect joke, which is that it's just like Zoolander. And I laughed. In the computer? Really hard about it. I laughed very hard.

Inside the computer. But okay. So then after that, the next i like wasn't having a great week mentally it's tough times all around everyone has bad days now frequently and i was having one of those and at in the evening time i made myself corn on the cob my favorite food and i set it down on my table and it rolled off and rolled right under the couch. And I just burst into tears. Oh, no.

And then as I went to go pick it up, I walked through a spider web in my house and was like, what the fuck? And brushed it off, was like, OK, that's hopefully the end of that story. It wasn't. I sat down and a teeny tiny little spider was on me smushed it killed it another teeny tiny spider no no no sammy this is my worst nightmare no don't go on tiny spiders all over my person i jumped up to inspect what the fuck is going on i found like a newly hatched nest of baby spiders. I hate this. I hate every second of this story.

It was so bad. I got to the point where I was like, this is the worst night of my life. And I was actually pretty numb to it. And then I was just like killing tiny spiders and I vacuumed them all up and it was fine. But anyways, pretty scary week for me.

Sammy, I cannot believe that about that evening, the only news we received from you was that your corn fell. Well, I was like, I'm going to save this one for the pod. You've got to save something for the pod. You've got to save something for the pod, I guess. But holy hell, what a brave, brave woman. Yikes. I would have moved.

Yeah, you've got to move. I think that's what that means. You have to move now. Yikes. Maybe to New York. Maybe. No. All the way to New York. Oh, boy. yeah you gotta move i think that's what that means you have to move now yikes maybe to new york maybe no all the way to new york oh boy but that was a lengthy story okay henley what's up with you oh i just real really fast um as you guys may know i have moved to new york have we mentioned it i think we have um i one really fun thing that i'd forgotten about living on the East Coast is that like flash thunderstorms happen all the time. And God, I miss that. Yeah. And all of a sudden clouds have rolled in like thunder has started. And it's just started torrentially downpouring.

Yeah. With no warning at all. Unexpected. You're not in the right clothes. Unexpected. Not near like shelter. And just truly sheets of rain pouring down on you. And I kind of love it, actually.

Yeah, I miss that so much. I was going to say, I was going to use it to try to convince you to come back to LA. And then I was like, actually, that's cool. It's actually really cool. I mean, I'm sure I'll get sick of it and used to it very quickly. But the novelty of it has not worn off yet. And man, the East Coast humidity, it's like a whole different game. It's very quickly. But the novelty of it has not worn off yet. And man, the East Coast humidity, it's like a whole different

game. It's very real. Yeah. Anyway, that's it. Cool. I like that. I like that. I like that. Talking about weather on the pod. Talking about weather. Hey, it's the most common subject to talk about. What's up with you, Emily?

I decided, well, so I, listeners heard, you may have heard in the last couple episodes that I got laid off due to COVID. And in the past week, I was like, you know what? I'm going to try to have a job in wine. And I have no experience and no way to do it other than I'm like, I like wine and I drink it a lot. And I've been listening to podcasts and I try to expand my palate so in the interest of

you know professional development I bought 12 bottles of wine today oh my god for professional development for professional development but I'm really I'm excited and and I did speak on the phone with like a winemaker

guy today I'm just trying to, I'm trying to use it as an opportunity to branch out. These, this moment we're in is very bizarre and why not try to, to learn a new thing, I guess. I mean, a job is also good.

I would like to have a job again, but I'm also gonna, you know, try to, so if anybody knows anything about wine, listeners, tell us, tell me about it. I want to know to, you know, try to. So if anybody knows anything about wine, listeners, tell us. Tell me about it. I want to know. Let us know.

Let us know. Emily, you have to read this book. I read it a few years ago. It's called Cork Dork. Cork Dork. Cork Dork. It's all about this young woman who decides that she wants to be a sommelier. And she gets really.

Is that kind of what you want to do I mean I'm assuming not necessarily because that's very crazy it's like it's so competitive and like very intense and so no but I do but there are there are lots of paths in the wine industry that are like that you can like work with wine

wineries or distributors or you could like work with us. There's all sorts of things. Honestly, right now, I do fucking anything because as I just mentioned, I bought 12 bottles of wine. All my money is going to wine. So I'd love to get a little bit of money back from wine. But yes, I don't necessarily want to be a sommelier. But there are many different avenues to take.

But Cork Dork is a sommelier but there are many different avenues to take but but cork dork is a sommelier i think you should i think you should read it just because it will make you feel like at least some way about the wine community i don't know whether it will be excited or turned off especially the world of sommeliers is like very tough like it's but it's like most many things like, you know, Friday White Guys run the whole show. It sounds it also sounds really fun. And one thing that you will start doing after reading the book and also, you know, just generally if you're thinking about being a smelly is every single thing that you smell, you will try to describe in words. And so you will constantly be smelling things and using like the craziest descriptors to talk about what it smells like. And it becomes like ingrained in you. And even I was starting to do it while I was reading the book. And I it was really fun. It was honestly really fun. I love the idea of having a friend who works in wine so I can get

some free wine. Who doesn't want a friend who works in wine so I can get some free Wine in the future I would love to be that friend And if you have a friend Listeners I would like to know that friend And then let me be That friend for other people This is a friend to friend sort of situation

I'm trying to get into Pay it forward So that's what's up with me I'm going to be drinking a lot of wine wow pretty uh pretty eventful weeks all around huge i would say but let's let's talk about this week's movie let's do it which is a nightmare on elm street it came out in a nightmare on elm street i don't think i've ever known that it didn't just start i call it nightmare on elm street too yeah but't think I've ever known that it didn't just start with the word nightmare. I call it Nightmare on Elm Street too, yeah, but I think, I believe it is technically a

Nightmare on Elm Street. A Nightmare on Elm Street, okay. A, uh, either way. Yeah. Came out in 1984, written and directed by Wes Craven, starring Heather Langenkamp, Johnny Depp, Robert Englund,

Amanda Wiss, and Jasu Garcia. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. I'm sorry. It could be Hazu? It's J-S-U. Hazu? Perhaps. Zoo.

I don't know. How would I know? I don't know. But here to talk about it with us are the hosts of the podcast movies that made us gay it is peter lozano and scott young bauer hello welcome to be on the show hi everybody hi hi um thank you guys for being here thank you for having us it's been in the works for a while i know yes remember we were Supposed to record The week that

This bomb went off In Los Angeles Yep It was serious We were supposed to record On that Wednesday And just All hell broke loose that week

So we had to cancel it Yep Oh my gosh Yeah The Wednesday That Wednesday was a very That was the day the NBA shut down That was like the day

It was pretty much Yeah The day And we didn't get to record Yes And we kept kind of trying to like hold out to be like well this will probably be over soon you know in the beginning when we were all like yeah it's not gonna last we should do it in person we'll just

wait we'll just wait a month give it a month um and you know finally we've buckled and we've said okay let's do it over zoom this seems like it's sticking around this whole coronavirus it's not going anywhere anytime soon um will you guys tell us a little bit about your podcast for the listeners who don't know anything about it yes uh indeed uh like you said we are movies that made us gay and we discuss the uh movies that had uh an impact on our queer adult selves. Movies that we watched a lot as kids that were not necessarily made for a queer audience, but that queer and gay audiences really latched on to. So not necessarily, you know, we're not just sitting around watching like Philadelphia

and, you know, only just super gay movies like Call Me By Your Name. No, we're watching movies like you know like working girl and and uh death becomes her and you know these movies that just garnered this queer following along the way and we try and do that in a funny way and we bring it to you every week yeah and we have done a nightmare movie we have done night a nightmare on elm street to freddy's revenge the gay one which. Which, that's the notorious gay one. We can talk about that a little bit. Oh, I can't wait to hear why.

Yeah, once we get through this, I want that. We'll give you a little recap of all the sequels, too. We can do a quick one sentence for each one. Perfect. Yeah, I was a guest. I was lucky enough to be a guest on your guys' podcast. And you guys are some of the most knowledgeable people about film that I know.

I feel like you have kind of an encyclopedic knowledge about film. So I'm really excited to have you guys. Maybe that puts pressure on you. I don't mean to... Not at all. Not at all. Do you guys like horror movies also? Yes, very much so. Very much so. This movie in particular, oh my goodness. do you guys do you guys like horror movies also yes definitely

very much so very much so this movie in particular oh my goodness where do we even begin so good it's so good it's so good but that said it's so good but for you two I completely understand if you don't like

scary movies to sit this one out because I mean I'm a pretty tough guy when it comes to scary movies to sit this one out because I mean, I'm a pretty tough guy when it comes to scary movies, but this movie's goddamn scary. Yeah, it's scary as shit, y'all. It's interesting because I'm like, I think and this is wrong. I know that this is wrong

from a film perspective, but I think I have this assumption that, oh, it was made in the 80s so probably by today's standards, it's not as scary I can probably handle, even though the idea of it sounds, as much as I know, truly horrifying. I'm interested to hear you say that and to go get into it, because I feel

like normally when we have guests come on who do quote-unquote older movies, they're like, you would totally handle this one by now. And thank you for admitting that that's not true. Because it's seriously wrong. The only thing that I, my point of reference for this movie, like

all my understanding about culture, is from the Treehouse of Horror episode from The Simpsons where... Right, it's a good one. Yes. And that scared the shit out of me when I was a kid and I saw that episode and it was a Simpsons version. I feel like your knowledge of everything is through Simpsons.

That's how you learned about the world. It's truly how I learned about the world. Thank God my parents let me watch The Simpsons when I was growing up. Otherwise, I wouldn't know jack shit about how the world works. You wouldn't have gotten it from anywhere else. You would have just sat. You would have just been sitting in your house doing nothing probably collaging i would have been collaging let me tell you this about that though that simpsons treehouse of horror where they parody a nightmare

on elm street is so crazy well done for so many reasons yeah like they get the tone the music like everything absolutely right. And it is scary. Willie is a perfect surrogate for Freddy Krueger, too. Like it works perfect for the show. Groundskeeper Willie is always a little scary. I want to watch it again. Now I'm kind of like wanting to revisit the Simpsons episode.

I won't ever be brave enough to watch this. What was the other one? It was Cape Fear, right? There was another episode we did where they did Cape Fear. Yeah, they've done so many. I mean, they've been on for 50 years?

A thousand years? I don't know. Since the beginning of time? Yeah, since when Jesus was born. This one and the Cape Fear definitely have stuck in my memory spooked you good spooked me big time big big time so i'm excited to find out what actually happens in the real movie not just the simpsons episode probably slightly different than how it panned out in the Simpsons episode, I would imagine.

A little bit different. This is a little bit backwards, but we kind of skipped. Did anything scary happen to you guys this week? If nothing did, that's okay. But if you do, tell us. I mean, I work at Trader Joe's, so I've had sort of a stressful and scary past six months at that job. Oh, yeah. Working as an essential worker at tjs but it's actually it's gotten better than it was like it's not completely crazy like the month of

march when there was just nothing on the shelves and you were just like like silently crying to yourself on your breaks so So yeah, it's better than it was. Good. I have a couple of brief things that I just remembered. Um, we live, uh, on the second floor of a duplex.

It's a house and we're on the second floor and we have the balcony and I have a hummingbird feeder and I was outside, uh, watering my plants and I was very nearly murdered by a hummingbird. Oh, they're pretty aggressive when they come to the feeder. They're dangerous. and I was very nearly murdered by a hummingbird. Oh, no. They're pretty aggressive when they come to the theater. They're dangerous. They fully did like a fly-by zoom and like buzzed me. Those boots are long.

Yes. Long, fast. Yeah, they could really get you. And the railing is very low, you know, on our patio. So I just had one of those like whoo i just almost ate it that was scary oh my god you get some good hummingbird fights too because because they don't like feeders being shared by other hummingbirds so they will they will get aggressive and they will they will like chase off other hummingbirds yeah they're cute but they'll cut a bitch and then separately

separately from that last week we had a very scary near miss where we thought that our DVR actually didn't record the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills but the next morning it turned out that it did and it was there

and we were able to watch it but we just had to wait all day. You like, like peasants, we had to wait. You guys, you guys are going to be mad to, you guys are going to be mad to hear it, but I've never watched any of the Real Housewives, but I think I'm about to start. I think that's a good thing for me to get into right now. This last season of Beverly Hills, it had, I had never actually watched the Beverly Hills season.

I kind of, my, I was only actually watched the Beverly Hills season. I kind of my... We just got into it. I was only familiar with the original OC New York and Jersey. And we just dove into the new season of Beverly Hills. And I will say it's a great season just to start having not really been familiar with any of them. I've seen a few episodes here and there, and I've always liked what I saw. So I feel like I won't be let down. I follow a celebrity gossip account and so I

know that Dorinda has just been fired so I know I know gossip about it but I want to know what it means. I think you're going to love it Sammy. Yeah exactly. And also Sammy if you get into it you guys can all go to

when COVID is over you can go to pump and what's the other one by like the countess pump and what's the other one with the two toms or whatever oh sure yeah it's like lisa vander the name escape yeah the name escapes of the second restaurant i can't remember but i know that i've been there because when people come and visit me and they're like they're like we gotta go to pump i've been there so many times I've been there so many times. I've been there so many times that I've never seen an episode. And it's because every time someone visits me, it's the only place they want to go in LA.

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know. I'm doing a Mad Men rewatch and this has already gone on far too long so hey, make that drink and back to the dang episode. Cheers! Do we have any trivia about this movie? I feel like there's some fun

stuff. There's a lot of trivia. Is it Johnny Depp's first movie, feature length? Yeah. Yes. And I remember on the commentary, Wes Craven says his 13-year-old daughter was visiting that day and they were reading all of the- What's his character name?

Glenn. All the Glenn parts. And the 13-year-old was like- That one. Well, you're going to get Johnny Depp, obviously. And Johnny Depp is at this point in 1984. Johnny Depp was just like this very teeny wasted, like elven little like pretty little creature. And like he's Glenn, like, you know, Nancy's wearing his Letterman jacket.

And like, you know, the other main antagonistic character like calls him like a jock and all that stuff and you're like but it's johnny depp he looks like an aerobics instructor so yeah yeah a piece of trivia that i wrote down is that they're they used over 500 gallons of fake blood in this movie uh we've talked about the amount of gallons of blood in other movies it chapter two is one that they used a lot evil dead evil dead remake um i just like to know what are the movies that use the most fake blood i'm i'm i'm thinking

this knowledge i mean there's a scene in particular where it is just pouring out so that makes that makes total sense we'll get yeah we'll get to that you guys will hear where all this blood was used oh boy yeah can't wait I like the piece of trivia

from the commentary last night in that you know a lot of Freddy's lair is in a boiler room and they shot a lot of the boiler room footage at the old Lincoln Heights jail in LA downtown LA

and it was closed down as a jail and it was used for several, you know, movie shoots and movie locations. But the basement and the boiler room area in particular has since been shut down and declared hazardous because it is completely full of asbestos. Yeah. Oh, my God. Probably not great for the cast and crew that were filming there. Yeah. Spending hours and hours. Yeah, probably not great.

We did a little research on the jail. They also shot the Lady Gaga telephone video there. Oh, my God. With Beyonce? But that was just in the prison yard sequences. So they were not exposed to all the asbestos. We cannot expose Beyonce to asbestos. No.

She was nowhere near it. She must be protected. I mean, Lady Gaga too. Come on. Who are we kidding? Yeah. Another thing is that this is a new line cinema film and apparently they were like not doing well. This is their second film, I think.

And their first film really wasn't doing well and they were like oh boy this was a not a bad idea we're not gonna make it and this movie saved them and made a bunch of made a bunch of money and so new line cinema for a while was nicknamed the house that freddie built greenlit and produced by bob she, who's kind of one of the old school studio executives that he was kind of, I mean, he used to distribute John Waters movies out of the trunk of his car. Oh my God.

Going to like midnight showings, you know, of polyester and like, and carrying the reels around with them. I remember specifically all the way up until i would say probably the release of austin powers that anytime i popped in a movie and the new line logo came up i would just freak out a little bit you get a little tense because to me that signaled a nightmare movie that signaled freddie was coming up so i was always like, okay. So I didn't look this up, but does New Line still exist? I know everything's like constantly changing.

They are owned by Warner Brothers. They brand stuff New Line movies, but for all purposes, it's a Warner Brothers movie, but they use it to sort of brand certain properties. Yeah. Got it. It's hard to keep track of all those oligopolies. What do we call them? They're always consolidating into one big superpower.

Oh, yeah. Where does this movie fall in Wes Craven's career trajectory? Great question. Take it away, guys. I don't know. I mean, he had been working since the 70s because he did The Hills Have Eyes, Last House on the Left, which were kind of, I mean, not huge hits, but they had a big following in the horror community. Yeah. I can't think of what he did right before Nightmare, but I mean, this is kind of his first big studio break.

Right. His first major movie. Yeah, I feel like those 70s horror movies, especially Hills Have Eyes and Last House on the Left, were marketed as like ultra-horror and they were almost like a precursor to what they refer to as torture porn now.

Not meant to be mainstream necessarily. Exactly. Kind of having a grindhouse following with them. Yes, very that. And I feel like a Nightmare on Elm Street franchise really kind of changed a lot of things in horror.

He didn't necessarily come at it with the intention of making it a 6-7 movie franchise. He was good to go and just be like, I'm done. Let's do the next thing. But it was such a crazy hit that it kind of had to keep going. But like you were saying, early 80s horror almost nowadays have a campy feeling. And definitely the later movies in the franchise, you know, Freddy became more of like a jokester and he had quips and puns.

And, you know, there's there's one movie where where they see him flying outside of their window on like a witch's broom and like and like the pointy hat. And it's a full on like Wicked Witch of the West moment. But it's Freddy. And you're like, what the fuck? It's just they're crazy and kooky. But this movie is straight up. This man is in your nightmares and he's going to murder you and if you fall asleep you're going to die and it's scary oh

i mean it is so scary to think of not being able to go to sleep sleep the most comforting thing in the world oh it's perfect for a horror movie because people don't understand dreams either people still have no idea what the hell is happening when we're dreaming. That's such a mystery. And so it makes a lot of sense to be able to turn that into something horrific and scary. And these movies always have

a lot of fun with dream logic too when the characters do go in dreams. It's kind of a really fun way as a director just to stage scenes. Because you can just be ultra creative of a really fun way as a director just to stage scenes yeah because you can just be ultra creative of how you're doing these dreams but this did also lead to the kookiness of the later movies right then you get wicked way to the west yes the cartoon quality it's a thing i love again as a person who never watches it but a thing i love about the horror

genre in in general is like you have this license to do these like very supernatural things that in any other genre you can't get away with but because we're like whoa we're like messing with fear and like what you think you saw and what you did see and what you've created in your head and what it's like it lets you make these crazy choices that are so

satisfying and I would imagine yeah as a creator so much fun to get to delve into because the rules are different. I'm excited. I'm excited too. Okay, should we watch the trailer so we can start talking about it? Alright, let's watch the trailer. Let's watch the trailer.

The kids of Elm Street don't know it yet, but something is coming to get them. There's something out there isn't there no one knows where it came from or who it will visit next nancy there's something wrong with you you're imagining things nightmare on elm street do you believe in the boogeyman? No. Whatever you do,

don't fall asleep. I've never hated anything more than I've hated that. That trailer is so sick. So good. It's so good. I am... I am shocked by what I just saw. It's intense. I am I am shocked I told you it was scary

It's intense Oh my god I can't wait to hear this Holy shit No I don't even know Wow I wasn't expecting

All of those visuals man And also my god Johnny Depp is so young. There's like feathery hair. Wearing a crop top. You'd love to see it. Bring it back. Why aren't men wearing crop tops these days? There was like a brief phase a few years ago where crop tops came back and I feel like they've gone away again.

But maybe it's because we're in quarantine. Come back. Yeah, I guess no one's like dressing to impress we're not seeing outfits you know yeah they're they're they're around in like the fitness world yeah yeah yeah like bodybuilder guys wear those i'll take it and then and then like if you're just coming home from like football practice and like high school or something you wear yeah you keep your little crop top yeah okay do you guys want to take it away? I'm here for you for anything that you need, but I'll let you do some storytelling and jump in whenever you need me.

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And it's like a small square in the middle of the screen. Right. So it's not even full screen. It's like this little square. And you see these dirty old hands. And it's this man. And he's building the Freddy claw. He's building the glove.

So it tells you right away that someone made this. It's like an actual real world item that somebody made with their hands in like a garage or something. No. It's crazy. No one should be allowed to have garages. Yeah. Stuff like this happens in them all the time. Yeah. Nothing good is happening in a garage yeah it's so awesome so then like it's the first time like the hand is

like he puts his hand in the glove and it does like this flash and then like the the cool title the big scary words come up on the screen and then we're now we're in a dream and it's all in that boiler room you know that i was talking about and it's just a girl in room, you know, that I was talking about. And it's just a girl in a blonde girl with like a little bob haircut in a nightgown. Yeah, she's super cute. She was in Better Off Dead with John Cusack, which I love. And yeah, and it's just her in a nightgown. And it's just like there's water dripping everywhere. And it's these long, dark halls and just like pipes and steam and just randomly like a like a goat.

Oh, sheep. A little sheep runs by. Just runs by. Mark your bingos. Yes. So weird. Little white lamb. And, you know, she encountersdy and wakes up from this dream and the best

i think one of the best parts about this movie is the representation of the parents because they're there but they're all look really like trashy yeah like all the parents look like they all look like drunk or like like the mom comes in the room and she's like what's going on and like it's it's the middle of the night so like her makeup's all jacked up and her hair's all crazy she's like what's going on and and tina's just like oh i had a dream and then this like gross man walks in and like i don't think it's supposed to be tina's dad because he just like looks at her and he's like come back to bed and so the mom is just like all right like you need to chill out like stop like stop like having these crazy nightmares and she looks down and the front of her nightgown is like shredded shredded

so this kind of right off the bat tells us that stuff that happens in the dream can like be brought out you know into the real world super scary and then it cuts to you know our heroes walking to school the next day outside of John Burroughs high school in in Los Feliz or John been there or John Marshall John Marshall excuse me

uh-huh yeah this is actually a lovely old high school that was in a ton of movies. Pretty much America's high school. Yes. Yes. You've seen it. You'll recognize it.

They did Grease there. Buffy the Vampire Slayer shot there. Yep. Cool. Girls just want to have fun. Girls just want to have fun. Yep. Yeah.

And, you know, Tina's kind of like freaking out to Nancy about this. Nancy, her best friend, who is our actual main character our final girl and you know she's kind of freaking out about this dream that she had and and uh nancy and glenn who are uh heather langenkamp and johnny depp are her best friends and they're just like you know what glenn's just like it happens like you know we all have crazy dreams and something about what tina says triggers something in nancy that she remembers like wait a minute like something about nails or like long knives and you kind of get this idea that nancy knows what she's talking about she recognizes this like uh-oh yeah so tina's parents go out of town for the night so she invites over nancy to kind

of sleep over because she's freaked out she's been having this what we find out is a recurring nightmare tina's boyfriend is kind of a creep uh what is this character's name rod but he's rod yeah rod is kind of a creepy guy. Creepy name. Creepy name. He wears a leather jacket. Sorry to any Rods listening. He definitely has some toxic masculine energy about him, too. Absolutely. He's a little rapey.

Uh-oh. And, you know, so Heather Langenkamp and Johnny Depp go to the house to spend the night with Tina to make her feel better. And they immediately, like like hear some rustling outside and they're freaking out. Lo and behold, it's just Rod. He was trying to scare them, but he has this like garden tool and he was making these like screechy noises.

That is the thing about, I know that Rod is like a douchebag, but my God, in these movies where there's always a friend who like, someone tells you they're having a very real fear and they go like ooh I'm gonna prank you with this thing you're really scared of like no that is not a thing

that people do it's bad and mean and not okay but there's also crazy dialogue in there that kind of indicates that Rod knew to do that because he was having the dreams too right we're getting a little bit of indicates that Rod knew to do that because he was having the dreams too.

Right. We're getting a little bit of impression that they all are kind of like giving each other looks like, well, wait, wait a second. Like, I know what you're talking about.

Cause at first you thought maybe it was just Tina and Nancy, but then Rod knows what's up. And Glenn is just very much like, shut up. You guys are dumb. But I think he eventually comes around. Classic boyfriend response. Yeah.

So there's an amazing cutaway to, shut up, you guys are dumb. But I think he eventually comes around. Classic boyfriend response. Yeah. So there's an amazing cutaway to, you know, Nancy asleep in Tina's room on the bed, Glenn on the couch, and you hear coming from upstairs from Tina's bedroom the most insane sex moans from these two teenagers. These 17-year- olds have quite the sex life and you know glenn can't sleep he's just like these motherfuckers up there and i have to sleep

on the couch with my girlfriend you know in her room and this is where we get the really cool shot of nancy asleep in tina's bed and from the wall above her like Freddy's face is like coming through the wall push his way out of the wall it's such a cool effect because it's a practical effect they sort of built the set like the room is slanted

like it's sort of it's like the roof of the house but it was cool because they sort of built in this prop that... And they put on like a piece of spandex on it. And they put the prop... Kind of their Freddy stand in. And he kind of goes through the wall.

And it's all done practical. Right. Yeah. It looks really cool. But she wakes up and it disappears. Hold on. Hold on. I got to pause here for just one second.

Yes. Which is that I want to say already that this is clearly a movie that has an example of something 2D going into 3D, which I have lobbied to have on our bingo cards. Because I think this is something that happens in horror movies. Yeah, it does. I think this is something that happens in horror movies. And I just want to say in our next iteration of bingo cards, we need to have a 2D into 3D square. Henley, you've made your point. It'll be in the next round. I just printed our second edition.

Our third edition will have your precious 2D to 3D. Thank you. I like it. It fits. Great. From 2D to 3D. Okay. It's important.

It is. But yeah, so we see that when she wakes up, it goes away. Yeah, it goes back to like flat wall. Tina is awakened by like what she thinks are like pebbles being thrown at the window. She hears a sound. She hears a sound. And when she goes, something hits the window at the window. She hears a sound. She hears a sound. And when she goes,

something hits the window and it cracks and it's a tooth. A little tooth. I didn't even notice that. Oh my God. Ew. I don't like a tooth. Not a tooth. Which is such a creepy image. Yeah.

And I guess the teeth are a big common thread with people's dreams. Oh yeah. Teeth falling out. We talked about it last week. Yeah. Sammy I guess the teeth are a big common thread with people's dreams. Oh, yeah. Teeth falling out. We talked about it last week. Sammy's dreams particularly. It sort of checks out that he put it in. Yeah. So, you know, she does what she's totally not supposed to do.

She goes outside to investigate. She doesn't even put on pants. No, she puts on. She just goes out there in a shirt and panties. That's crazy. Oh, my God. Yeah. No shoes.

She's just like running through this alleyway barefoot in the middle of the night. But something that Wes Craven said in the commentary too was that, you know, you really have to reel in the audience early on and scare the hell out of them. Especially for a movie like this. You know, so that they know what they're in store for. Yeah. So that they can like never feel safe for the remainder of the movie. Yeah.

Yeah. And this scene happens within the first 15 minutes. And it is out of control. What's the first big reveal of Freddy? She's in the alley. And he kind of comes out from around. I think you see his shadow. And then he comes out.

And then that's where his arms, like, reach out. And his arms stretch out. And, like, all this. then he comes out and then that's where his arms like reach out and his arms stretch out and like all this he comes out from behind a tree it's this crazy practical effect that they gave Robert England who plays Freddy these big like cartoony arms like he's a you should be outside of like a car

dealership yeah yeah so there's a long protracted chase between tina how he starts running at tina i think is so goddamn scary because he's like running at her and he's like flailing he's flailing his arms yeah it's in this dark alley so this alley i have been to this location it is off of abbbot Kinney in Venice. And this alley looks exactly the same now. You can just walk up right from Abbot Kinney and it looks exactly the same.

Fun. So, you know, like I said, there's a long protracted chase between Tina and Freddie. He does like creepy shit where he like, you know, like slices his fingers off and like all this green goo comes out yeah you know when she's wrestling with him she like reaches up towards his face and like rips the skin off of his face like all this craziness and this is not even the worst part because what ultimately happens is she kind of wakes up she's fighting with him in the alley but then all of a sudden like a blanket covers her like from the bed and it cuts back to the bedroom

and she's flailing all over the bed and she's fighting nobody and Rod is just like Tina wake up Tina wake up and that's when she starts getting dragged all across the walls and the ceiling it's crazy and she is just like bleeding by bleeding yes i hate it you see the like finger slices go down her chest oh my gosh

it's violent it's crazy i like that rod is in his whitey tighties because of course i would yeah and he's just sitting there kind of helpless, like, what the hell's going on? And ultimately, when it ends, Tina's body falls from the ceiling onto the bed. Blood flies everywhere. You know, Nancy and Glenn are trying to break into the room. And when they finally break in, they see that Rod has fled. That shot of Tina falling from the ceiling and hitting the bed yeah I think is one of the most unsettling

shots of the entire movie and I guess that when you listen to the commentary that's the scene that the MPAA was just like oh hell no like you are gonna have to cut down that scene and I guess that he trimmed like frames of her hitting the bed with blood sort of splattering

up off of the off of the mattress that they had to trim that just a few frames oh i hate it i hate it god but you i'm so i'm so curious now though this always happens where i'm like equally scared but now i'm equally curious and i just want to watch like that even just how they shot it it's a practical set that they built on a sound stage that the room turned to so that she could like slide up the wall and end up on the ceiling and it was almost i mean that's like almost some like fred astaire shit right there yeah exactly it's some old movie making like tricks it looks great and yo it does it looks it looks amazing and what we what we see about freddy if you're not familiar with the character or the mythology

of Freddy Krueger and who he is, is that his body is completely covered in burns. He was covered in burn scars. Right. Cut to the next day. Nancy finds out that her best friend was killed. She's at the police station. Her father is a cop. Played by John Saxon.

R.I.P. Just died. John Saxon was a big actor in the 70s. He did a lot of like kind of grindhouse movies. He was in Black Christmas. He was in Black Christmas. If you've never seen Black Christmas you need to do it on the show. We do need to do it. That'll be our Christmas movie this year. Yeah.

Yeah. But they bring in Nancy to the police station because the number one suspect is Rod. They think Rod just killed her and ran, you know, which is like. Makes perfect sense. Yeah, totally tracks, you know. Right. So Nancy is just like, you know what?

I'm just going to go to school because like, I don't know, I can't just I can't just sit at home and process this by myself. So she goes to school in this awesome pink cable knit v-neck sweater vest over like a white Oxford shirt and pleated khakis. If you're going to cosplay Nancy, this is the look to recreate. If you're going to go to a horror convention dressed

as Nancy. I mean, where do you find a pink cable knit v-neck? I'm going to Google search it right now. I'm buying it right now. You have to knit it. Yeah. It's very, it's very norm core. I love it. So she goes to school, you know, the next day after her, you know, her best friend was brutally murdered. But what she doesn't realize is that her father, the cop, is having her tailed by other cops, which I mean, I guess that tracks to, you know, her friend was murdered. You never know. She was in the house and the guy who they think did it is missing. Yes.

So, yeah, OK. But they actually used Nancy to trap Rod because they knew that he would reach out to her, which he did. And they catch him and put him in jail. But he's just like, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. So cut to class. We get a classic, very Halloween-style scene where they're sitting in class,

and it's like English literature or something, and the teacher's talking to them about Shakespeare. And you guys have done Insidious, right? Lin Shay, baby. So the teacher is played by Lin have done insidious right lynn shay baby teacher is played by lynn shay from insidious yes she's she's so good she's an icon

her brother bob shay is the producer at new line too yes indeed nepotism yes indeed so we get this really cool scene where nancy's in class and she's kind of not really paying attention and one of the students who is this like awesome like surfer looking guy with like

crazy blown out hair it's daryl hannah's brother it's daryl hannah's brother the actor hawaiian shirt nepotism again and um he's started he's reading something i think it's like shakespeare or something i think they're doing hamlet yeah because i think that they're talking about hamlet's father's ghost yes and she sees in the hallway of the classroom fully just tina in a body bag standing there calling out to her she's like nancy oh yeah and then the body bag is like now it cuts back to to nancy then it cuts back to tina the body bag but now the body bag is lying flat on her back the legs lift up with nobody lifting them up and begins to get drug away down the hall trail of blood behind it it's a creepy image it's very scary oh so nancy like runs after her chasing her down the hall now she ends up and

this is just a random high school and what is to in the future we find out is springwood ohio not a real town um but in this high school in the basement is this labyrinthine boiler room wait doesn't she doesn't she run into the where's your pass girl? Yeah. She runs into a girl that's like, you need a hall pass.

And the girl's like, screw your hall pass. Where's your pass? Yeah. But the thing is, where's your pass? But the thing is, the girl is wearing

pretty much Freddie's sweater. And when Nancy kind of bumps into her and kind of turns around and looks back, she's got like the Freddie claw and she's just like, she says something creepy. And, you know, it's kind of bumps into her and kind of turns around and looks back, she's got like the Freddy claw. And she's just like she says something creepy.

And, you know, it's kind of no running in the halls, Nancy. No running in the halls, Nancy. And, you know, it's kind of interesting about just the horror community. This extra has fully just now made the rounds that she'll make appearances at horror conventions. She's doing the concert. She does the concert just because she's in this iconic scene. And she can make a pretty penny signing eight by tens. No running in the halls, bitch.

You know? Yeah, dude. Make that money. Good for her. Love it. So now Nancy has her first run in with Freddie in this crazy dream logic boiler room that's under the that's under the

high school you know it's like she'll run down a hall and then she'll stop and turn around and there'll be a wall immediately behind her you know stuff like that and she sees freddie and he's very freddie's very like he taunts you you know he like calls you out like he knows you're scared to play with you he He plays around with everybody. Right. And Nancy is just like, this isn't real. This isn't real. It's just a dream.

And he says something crazy and scary. And what she does to wake herself up, she's in a boiler room. So she slams her arm against one of the pipes and wakes her up and brings her out of the dream, right? Burns her. But she's like freaking out in the classroom and she's screaming and Lin Shay is like shaking her and Lin Shay is like, Nancy, Nancy! She's screaming and her hair is

flying everywhere and she sends her out and she leaves school and when she walks outside, she looks down and her arm has this giant boil. There's a big burn on it. Oh, no. Oh, I don't like that one bit. I don't like that one bit.

So now this is fully confirming that shit in the dream is like real deal. Happening. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So. Also, that was such a smart move to get out of the dream. But now it's like, how far can you go? Because you'll actually fucking hurt yourself.

Yes, exactly. Because Nancy is the first one that realizes when she's in a dream that, wait a minute, this is only a dream. And I can kind of control it to an extent, you know. And she uses that throughout, you know, throughout the course of the movie. At this point on, I'm going to get a little less like beat for beat because you really just have to set up this stuff with Nancy and Tina at the beginning. Yeah, yeah. beat because you really just have to set up this stuff with Nancy and Tina at the beginning. Yeah. And we didn't really

talk about it before, but it's kind of cool of what they do with Tina's character because it's very Alfred Hitchcock and psycho because when you first watch the movie, you just assume, oh, Amanda Weiss is going to be the main character of this movie. And then they kill her off Drew Barrymore style and kind

of like the first 15 minutes of the movie. Yes. Yeah, for sure. And now it's sort of Nancy's narrative. Yeah. So we kind of get some clue. Well, they're not clues. It's like straight up blatant in our face that Nancy's mom is an alcoholic, like a raging alcoholic.

Nancy's mother, who is, I texted you this last night, Sammy. a raging alcohol. Nancy's mother, who is, I texted you this last night, Sammy. Nancy's mother, played by Ronnie Blakely, is one of my favorite characters in movie history. I'm not even joking. She's so crazy. She's so good in this movie. And she's being very melodramatic

and she's just acting. She's perfect. I love to see acting with a capital A. So Nancy's mother in this movie, full on, like the day that Nancy says she's going to go to school, it's the morning, Nancy's getting ready to movie, full on, like the day that Nancy says she's going to go to school. It's the morning. Nancy's getting ready to go. And she says hi to her mother, who is just drinking vodka in a coffee mug.

Oh, Jesus. Just pouring vodka in the mug. When it's the morning, it has to be in a mug. Yeah, exactly. That's how you know it's the morning. So Nancy decides to take a soothing bath. As you do. As you do.

If all this stuff is going on, your friends are getting murdered in their sleep, your other friend is in jail, nobody believes you. With their giant bath pillow. It's like a blow-up bath pillow. It looks comfy. Yeah.

I bet it is. I had one of those growing up. Oh, see? There you go. You blow it up, and it has those little suctions on the back, so when it gets wet, you stick it to the back of your tub and then it looks way too comfy for someone who's trying to not fall asleep yeah and and mom is like nancy like don't fall asleep in

there like people die in the bathtub and she's like whatever mom shut up and so nancy's just laying in the bathtub and there's a crazy shot. And I think you get it in the trailer from the foot of the bathtub, looking up at Nancy and from between her legs, from between her knees, out of the bathtub is the claw. Freddy's crazy claw. Freddy's claw. Ew. And it's gross and scary.

And it's interesting of how they would have done it because it's like a two story set. They have a guy beneath her that's like a two-story set. They have a guy beneath her that's like right below the bathtub set. Sort of like this little hole and he just sort of. And she said she was pretty much like propping herself up with like her legs like on the sides of

the tub. So she would stay in place. Damn, getting a workout. Major core workout. So, you know, the mom knocks on the door right as Freddie's hand is right about to strike and it goes down back into the water. And when the mom goes away, then he fully brings

her down. And now we cut to like under the water and it's just black. She looks like she's in like deep water. Yeah. Yeah, like deep in like a lake or something. Almost like a frozen lake. Yeah. And she's and she's struggling struggling struggling she's screaming and the mom is trying to you know open up the locked bathroom door and nancy just kind of gets away they don't really explain how but she just somehow breaks free yeah she struggles her way out of it ultimately

when nancy kind of figures this whole dream situation out, she goes to Glenn. She's like putting the clues together. Yeah. And she's like, Glenn, we got it. We got it. We got to get this guy. Exactly. And so this is when after the bathtub, she gets Glenn.

They go to the jail and they're like, hey, we've got to see our friends. Let us in. And, you know, all the cops are just like you know calm down teenagers like no you can't go in to see him or whatever and nancy has a lot of like scenes where she screams at authority figures and it's kind of great yeah but you know she's a daughter of like a cop i think he's like a captain or something and and she knows a lot of the cops and it's kind of implied that she knows them because she's grew up around them or whatever so she's just like alright idiots and

call them assholes and stuff which I love right right great you know with with Rod Freddie doesn't use the old finger knives he wraps up bed sheets bed sheets and

hangs him from the cell bars. But my thing is, why is Freddy covering his tracks at this point? I mean, yeah, who cares? Well, I guess he doesn't want to be too obvious. He's trying to challenge himself, probably. There you go. How can I be creative here? What else can I do?

Slicing with your four-kn knife hand probably gets old after a little while exactly so um you know we cut to uh rod's funeral now now we're at rod's funeral and you know they're all there and we find out that nancy's parents are not exactly they know a lot more than they're leading on well not only that but they're not only do they know more than what they're telling her but they're not exactly on the best marital terms no I don't even think

separate separated right yeah and so he you know the dad's just like you know we just have to like lay down the law with Nancy you know get it through her head that you know whatever like she needs to just like go to bed go to sleep and like calm down and move forward whatever and the mom this is when the mom has the best line in the entire movie you know she puts nancy in the car shuts the car door and she looks at him and she says i've got something i got something better

she takes uh she takes nancy to uh see a sleep specialist which is probably a good call okay played by charles flesher played by charles flesher who is the voice of roger abbott yes oh yes yes that would be scared me as a kid judge doom is a scary villain. Yes. Thank you. Yes. So Charles Fleischer is the dream specialist. And again, you know, we, like you mentioned earlier, there's kind of a scene where she's,

the mom is talking to him and she's just like, so what's happening? Like, what is going on with my daughter? Why is she so afraid to dream? And what is happening to her in these dreams? That's freaking her out so much and she more just asked what are up with dreams

in general too yeah like what are they and he's like I don't know yeah nobody knows like there's no and I think to this day there's no right solid one answer because I can see like what your brain activity is doing but they don't know like what that means

or what you're seeing or what. I'm getting scared. Yeah. You know what I read in an article recently? Because these past few months have been crazy and a lot of us have been having crazy dreams. And I read that there's an explanation for that because we're just sort of sticking to a routine and we're not going out and doing stuff, making memories. a routine and we're not going out and doing stuff, making memories, your mind, I guess,

recycles old experiences, old acquaintances and it like sort of your brain likes to have new stuff to work with for dreams. And that's why you might dream of someone who you haven't thought of in years or an old memory. It's just sort of

your mind going back through all of your old memories. What do I have back here? Give me anything else. Just because you haven't had any new experiences to make a dream. Yeah. I thought that was kind of interesting. That's wild.

So Nancy finally agrees to go under for this sleep experiment or whatever and they're they're monitoring her all this stuff they're having this conversation and then her charts just start going kind of crazy like what's happening what's happening to her and then she starts fully having like a exorcist moment like flying all over the bed and flailing everywhere and the mom's like you know go in there help her you know whatever

bring her out they wake her up a her arm slashed in like three spots so it's like freddie got her right and then separately besides that after that happens they're like okay she's they're like help her she's bleeding they go off to go get like, you know, band-aids or whatever. And like Nancy fully reaches down in the bed and pulls out Freddie's hat. Yes. So it sets up that she can sort of grab things from the dream and pull them back and bring them out. Reality. Okay.

So later on, the parents and the dad especially is just like, I don't know where you got that. You're just they just think she's making it up. Like she planted the hat. She took it in there with her to try and fake them out. Whatever. The mom is just like, you know, forget it. Don't worry about it. Whatever.

And Nancy's just like, you need to tell us. Tell me what's going on. Because whoever this man is, he's after us. He's after me. He already killed my friend. And she's like, look at the hat. And she grabs the hat. And she's like, it says his name.

It's stitched inside the hat. It says Fred Krueger. Who is he? And the mom's like, all right, you wanted to know. And she looks at her like, oh, this bitch knows something. Yeah. So mom takes Nancy downstairs into the basement. And there is.

Never a good sign. Yes. And there's full on like a Home Alone style. Furnace. Furnace. Oh, no. Like the face on it. That's like Kevin.

And she goes into the furnace and opens it up and she pulls out wrapped up in like tattered rags it's Freddy's glove she pulls it out yeah and she's like wait has he only been wearing one this whole time

yeah she yes he's only been wearing one but he only canonically only has one so this is like it's the glove but it's the one he's wearing in the dream whatever but the idea is and she starts telling the story and the story is that uh freddy krueger fred krueger he was a child killer that's what she says is child she says child killer they don't go into like molester territory in this but it sort of hints that i mean him like coming when she's i mean i know she fell asleep but like in the bath and his hand coming up from between her definitely like doesn't feel good

in that realm exactly yes so the mom's story is he was a child killer. He got off on a technicality. The parents of Springwood all got together, rounded him up and lynched him. Essentially Simpsons mob style. Yeah. Like pitchforks and like just like burnt him alive in his in his lair, which was like a boiler room in a I think he worked at the school. And she's and so the mom is like he's dead like wherever you figured out who he

was however you know who he is he's dead now and we killed him so you're safe and Nancy's like oh fuck no I beg to differ yeah that's not the case yeah okay well he's after us now because you killed him this is his revenge and now he's

gonna kill us all so we gotta figure it out so this is when nancy decides to go full-on like militia great survivalist she gets like hell yeah it's a book how to do booby traps in a survivalist book yeah hell yeah so i guess her end, her final plan is like, I'm going to go to sleep. I'm going to dream and I'm going to bring him out. You're going to you're going to wake me up and I'm going to bring him out and then we're going to kill him. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yes, Nancy.

Let's do it. Yeah. She's just fully. Is Glenn having these dreams, too? He is, right? You too he is right you don't ever see you don't ever see glenn's individual dreams yeah i don't think it was in the budget i think he is though i feel like he has he gives a few looks where he kind of recognizes what they're talking about but doesn't want to like say i yeah i think he's just reluctant to kind

of say yes this is what's happening i think he's the most like this can't that can't be it like they're just dreams you know but that's just kind of all subtext Nancy's mom like puts her to bed just my favorite thing is just that she pulls a fucking pot of coffee from underneath like a coffee pot from underneath

her bed like a full Mr. Coffee coffee pot from under her bed cause they want her to sleep and she's desperately like not falling. Like she's been taking caffeine pills and shit. And so her mom's like, no more coffee for you. And so her mom likes puts her to bed and she just like from underneath her bed pulls out a full coffee pot.

And it just really Mr. Coffee full. Yeah. And it's 1984. So she fully has over the counter. Trucker strength. Like... Jesse Spano style caffeine pills. Yeah.

Yeah. Stay awake. Yeah. So she finally has Glenn come over. And Glenn actually lives literally across the street. Their windows face each other from across the street. These houses are in West Hollywood. You can go see them.

Yes. They're very big movie houses are in West Hollywood. You can go see them. They're very big movie location houses in Los Angeles. She has Glenn. He climbs up the rose trellis in the front of the house and into her window.

She tells him her plan. She has a little digital watch. She's like, wake me up. Don't fall asleep. It kind of backfires because Glenn falls asleep. And I like that. I mean, even when she goes into the dream, you see Glenn in the dream and you immediately just think, oh, no, that can't be a very good sign. It's like Glenn in the dream.

Yeah. Talk to her from behind a tree. Yeah. She's wandering the streets like looking for Freddie. And she's like, are you still there? And he's like, yeah, I'm right here. And you're like, but if he but if they wait a minute, it's wandering the streets like looking for freddie and she's like are you still there and he's like yeah i'm right here you're like but if he but if they wait a minute it's paid back later yeah so um so she has a you know she has a fight with freddie he like cuts the pillows and feathers fly everywhere but she you know her alarm wakes her up and she isn't able

to bring freddie out and glenn's just like oh sorry it didn't work i'm i gotta go home anyway and so glenn leaves and as he leaves out the window your big plan to murder this guy who murdered our friends oh god i gotta bail i'm so sorry i think her dad gets home or like shows up or something but like as glenn leaves out the window cuts back to nancy then it cuts to the open window and like feathers are just like flying like settling but those were from the dream you know i love glenn's parents glenn's parents who look like his grandparents yes glenn was a late in life child yeah they're older parents okay yeah they're a little late in life baby because they look old and i love that when nancy calls over they're just like oh this one yeah they're just like, oh, this one. Yeah, they're just like, no, he's sleeping.

He's sleeping. Leave him alone. Yeah, they don't like Nancy because she's embroiled in a murder mystery. She's bringing a lot of drama and they're later in life, you know, they're trying to have things

be calm. Exactly. His heart can't take it. And I love when in life. You know, they're trying to have things be calm. Exactly. His heart can't take it. And I love when the mom goes to check in with Glenn. And she's like, it's late. You got to go to sleep. Oh, my God. Yeah. And he says, he says, no, I can't go to sleep.

I'm watching Miss Nude America. Nude America? Sure. Miss Nude America. Leave, mom. I'm watching Miss Nude America. Leave me, Mom. I'm watching Miss Nude America. I can't go to sleep, Mom. I'm too horny.

And this is when Glenn's in his iconic crop top, too. Yeah, this is the crop top and gray sweatpants. And, you know, so Glenn is watching Miss Nude America. He's got his headphones on that are plugged into the console stereo. Because, again, it's 1984. To his turntable. Yeah. And this is when he's lying in bed.

And this is when Freddie's arms come out of the bed around him, grab him, and pull him into the bed. And, yeah. And it's crazy because he's got his headphones on so i that like pulls in the stereo and the tv everything goes in yeah and it's it's a practical shot so they got it all in one take yeah of everything going in this bed and they later reused the set that was Tina's bedroom which was the rotating set so you can probably guess what they do so yeah so the he goes in you know he's freaking out he's

screaming whatever and then it cuts to like a wide shot and just a geyser of blood blood is coming out of the comes out of the bed this is those 500 gallons and it's kind of cool because of how they would have had to film this shot. All of the stuff is

probably just glued to the floor. And it's bolted because the set, it's upside down. Right. Because of the rules of gravity of how you would have to do that. And they're just pouring it out. It's that set of the room with Tina that they were turning and they later reused it.

So Glenn's mother walks in on this and just like like if you thought that casey becker's mom seeing her like hung from the tree was bad like there's no going back from this like no like hours of therapy is going to help this woman like her life is ruined in that very moment she's like she's like catatonic and like a and like a home is there is there a body or just so much well the cops arrive or the like cops and EMTs arrive and the

EMTs like run in with a stretcher and one of the cops is like you don't need a stretcher you need a mop what a rude thing to say in this situation it's very insensitive horrible yes uh fun fact there is a deleted scene of glenn's body coming up out of the hole and flopping onto the bed ew and they that was probably too much and they cut that yeah yeah nasty it probably just

looked too weird too so but yeah they and then you know there are scenes like in the living room and like you see the blood like seeping through the ceiling because it's like saturating like everything there's like buckets everywhere

we skipped one thing that I just want to say is right before he dies Nancy gets a phone call and it's like a screeching noise. And she it's like his Freddy's nails dragging and she's freaked out. She unplugs her phone and then it rings again while it's unplugged. And she answers it. And in Freddy's voice, he says, I'm your boyfriend. I'm your boyfriend now

so this guy molested children yeah for sure but the noise the noise of him licking her is the action and the sound effect don't line up and it really makes me laugh yes indeed oh we also missed i mean i guess there must there must have been a day in The action and the sound effect don't line up and it really makes me laugh. Yes, indeed. Oh, we also missed. I mean, I guess there must there must have been a day in between because what we didn't talk about was the dad put bars on all the windows. Oh, yes. In the house.

So we can't he can't climb in. Because they kind of think that and they kind of think that Nancy is just losing it. Right. So they're kind of like... Yeah, because they also did a thing where they could lock the front door from the inside. So without a key, Nancy can't get out. Oh, that's not good. And now it's the end game of the movie because Nancy goes to Mother and she's just like, Mother, what is going on like with the the bars and

why can't why can't i get out the door and mom who's fully blasted at this point is laying on the couch and she just goes locked locked they're all locked and nancy's just like ah and just like screams and like runs up to her room. Just like, fuck. What a fun role to play. Yeah. Yeah. No, she's so good. But Nancy's like screaming out through the bars of her windows at her dad, who is now at Glenn's house across the street at that crime scene. And she's like, I like know what's happening.

And I'm like, pay attention to me. And all the cops are just like, OK. I feel like Nancy tells the dad to something about like come back in 20 minutes or something. Yeah. She's like, give me 20 minutes when she's just like, yeah, she's just like, fuck this. I'm going to be trapped. Yes. She got the booby trap book ready.

There's like a montage scene of her like fully, you know, Sarah Connor, just like putting all this shit together. Connor meets Kevin McAllister style. Yeah. She's going to get Freddy. She's laying out all her micro machines everywhere. And, you know, this is where I start to have questions because, you know, she goes to sleep. She finds Freddy. She wakes up. She brings him out. She finds Freddy.

She wakes up. She brings him out. Has this crazy fight with him. But she kind of gets the better of him for a moment and is able to lock him in her bedroom. So he's locked in her bedroom. So he's in the real world now. Yes. He's fully in the real world.

Oh, you know how she gets the better of him? Is that she breaks the coffee pot over his head. Hell yeah. Right? Chekhov's coffee pot. Because he's not quite as strong once he makes it into the real world well because this was going to be my question you know she breaks the coffee pot over his head he's like ah falls down locks him in the room sets up this giant like mallet hammer like a sledgehammer like a sledgehammer looney tunes style to fall when he opens the door from the inside, right? So this gives her time to get downstairs. So my question is, Freddy, who was burned alive, exists only in our dreams, has been brought out of the dreams.

Now he's like alive again? Susceptible to like sledgehammers? Yeah, like what are the rules of his physical form yes so i mean we ultimately find that out because when the sledgehammer hits him he goes down you know he's just like oh that smarts you know um and this is when like all the you know nancy's kind of taunting him throughout the house she tries to get him ultimately she tries to get him down to the basement because that's where she's gonna fucking fuck him up and sets his ass on fire again

uh when they got in the stunt guy that they lit on fire it's just like there's nothing more jaw-dropping than seeing a professional stuntman on fire like it's so impressive and he's running up the stairs.

And there's a point that he just falls down the stairs. So this stuntman not only had to be lit on fire, he has to fall downstairs. All on fire. Yeah. And at this point, she's, like, screaming at the cops, like, come to the house. He's here.

He's here. She can't get out. Yeah, she can't get out of the house. It's locked. Where is her mom? Asleep on the couch? The mom is too drunk. Yeah, she's asleep. She get out. Yeah, she can't get out of the house. It's locked. Where is her mom? Asleep on the couch? The mom is too drunk. Yeah, she's asleep.

She's drunk. She's passed out. And there's like one cop that the dad has designated to watch her house where he's like, if anything weird is happening, like call me back out. And so she's like signaling this designated cop. She's like, come over here. Come over here. Like he's here.

He's here now. And the the guy's like it's okay like go to bed so annoying this is a movie about how cops should not be our soul yeah cops aren't helpful emergency responders no no no yes indeed

yep it's a big takeaway yeah so they break down the door. And, you know, at this point, there's like smoke coming from the house because she did light this fire, you know. So regardless of like if Freddie's in the real world or not, the house is on fire, you know. So the cops go down to the basement to go see what's going on. And now it does this really cool thing where there's a cut, but you don't really notice it because they go to the basement and you see the living room.

They go to the basement and then it cuts to Nancy in the kitchen and she goes back into the living room and there's footprints are all on fire and they're going up the stairs. Yeah, flaming footprints. They're going up the stairs to the mother's bedroom.

And Nancy in fully just pajamas he no longer has a physical form we're just seeing he does but he's just leaving flaming footprints because he was he was still on fire the whole time so they go into the parents bedroom and flaming on fire freddie is on top the mother, like smothering her. Yeah. And the dad grabs a blanket and like covers it up. And she's just like, see,

now do you believe? Jesus Christ. Yeah. But this is where we get one of the crazier, like more supernatural. I mean, everything's supernatural in this movie, but this is like the drag me to hell scene.

Yeah. Nancy pulls the blanket off the bed. This full on like Beetlejuice, like burnt up corpse of the mom is in the bed and she's sinking into like the neither world. And there's like lights and lightning and smoke and all this crazy stuff from under the bed. The body sinks down and then it just turns back into a regular bed. So the mom is dead. And mom's gone. Yeah.

Mom is gone. And so is Freddy. Yeah. So they think and Nancy's like, now do you believe me? And the dad's like, he doesn't even know what to say. Leaves, leaves the room, closes the door behind him and leaves Nancy in the room, right?

Seems like a bad idea. In the room where her mom just died? Yes, and was dragged to hell by Freddie. Yeah. Oh, no. So Nancy turns around and reaches for the door handle and you see the sheets start to rise up

and Freddie's form is under the sheets. And he rips his way out. And the cutaways to Freddy are like in darkness. They're not lit at all. It's just you see his like silhouetted form. It's some of the best shots of Freddy, because that's the thing is that, especially with this makeup,

probably with certain well-lit shots of Robert Englund, it might look a little a little too crazy a little it might just look like makeup but little pizza face but he's best shot when he's done in either silhouette or uh kind of just with like moody lighting yeah too dark and like and when it cuts to freddy he's like he's like almost trembling and he's just like, I'm going to kill you. Like, it's so scary. This last scene with Freddie, it's like he's like trembling and his voice. He's just like, I'm going to murder you.

And her back is to him the whole time. And she's just like, no, you're not. And he's like, what? He's like, what did you say? And she's like, no, you can't hurt me anymore. I take away all the power I ever gave to you. You're nothing. I don't believe in you.

And as he goes to try and like lunge at her, disappears. So she just stopped believing in him. And that worked. Pretty handy. That's good to know. Would have loved to have learned that, you know, three murders ago. Yes, exactly. And this is when, you know, Nancy's got her hand on her mom's bedroom door.

She opens the door. The room is filled with bright light and she walks out and now she's outside of the house. Daytime. Daytime. And the mom is with her and she's just like, all right, you're ready for school. Like, have a good day. But it's very, it's very dream logic-y because Nancy's very much like, wait a minute. What?

What? How did I get here? What's going on? How did I get here? And the mom's just like, yeah, it looks like it's going to's gonna be a great day like have fun at school and nancy's just like yeah i'm sure okay i will i guess i will have a nice day at school and glenn pulls up in a car with tina and rod and nancy gets in the car and it's a convertible. And as she gets in, the top of the convertible slams down over everybody. And it's the red and green stripes of Freddie's sweater.

It's the sweater. And all the windows start going up. And Glenn's just like, I'm not doing it. And the car just drives off. And they're all just like screaming. Ah! And then it cuts back to mom. And Freddie's arm like reaches.

Well, I mean, first we get the shot of the kids playing and singing the Freddie. Lullaby. Lullaby. The one, two, Freddie's coming for you. Yeah. Doing like jump rope. Like jumping rope. In like

baptism dresses. In like first communion dresses. It's a very iconic, unsettling moment of this movie. It's just the image of those children playing. And Freddie fully breaks the glass of the front door, little

peephole, and just grabs Ronnie and just pulls her in. Back just pulls her in back into the house back into the house credits credits so i guess this ending was very uh i guess this ending was very debated with new line and west craven i think that he just wanted to have Nancy walk away just into the fog, keep it ambiguous. But Bob Shan New Line wanted a scary ending with sort of a little like button to it. Emily looks stunned. Emily, I'm dying to hear your thoughts. Emily, tell me.

Oh, I honestly I want to like unpack. I mean, obviously, there are are more movies so like she didn't she didn't beat Freddy but what I really like about that is that you think like it's so fun to be like all she had to do is not believe in him and it and that's and she had to power along that's like

just fucking kidding he's a god damn murderer who comes to you at your sleep like no man you can't just decide he's not there. He's fucking there. Yeah. Real one-two punch. Yeah.

It's, yeah, it's a perfect example of, like, a true horror movie. The test is whether or not, I mean, I guess she's technically alive at the end. But whether people actually survive it. And this was like, no, like she's not going to survive. I don't know how you beat this guy. Find out Nancy's completed story until dream warriors.

Number three, third movie, two that they sort of tie back together. What becomes of Nancy and sort of setting up new characters that she has to guide and save through this whole how how many are there total how many of these films are there well if you want to count freddie versus jason which i don't there are six um with freddie versus jason there are seven wait a minute i think I just gagged myself because I don't think I'm counting Wes Craven's New Nightmare. Sure.

And New Nightmare is a whole other movie to talk about. Sammy, have you ever seen New Nightmare? No, I haven't seen any of the... I've only seen this one. Wes Craven comes back to write and direct it, and they do a very meta interpretation to it. That the Nightmare on Elm Street movies exist in the movie Heather Langkamp comes back as Heather she's playing

herself playing herself the girl who played Nancy in the Freddy movies and you know and that's interesting Robert Englund is there and you know they talk they have a really good relationship with each other he's great and there's something about sort of the mythology of Nightmare on Elm Street that just seeped

itself into the real world after they made all of these movies. Yeah. That's kind of the, that's the elevator pitch of the movie. That's fun. Yes, indeed. But yeah, I mean, this movie, it's, it's, the dream logic is really cool. It's creepy. It's scary. Like you said, there's this crazy thing at the end where you're just

like she's the final girl but that last scene it's like she really didn't make it you know not a happy ending for her oh it's really scary well it also just takes what the movie

is so so intelligently takes the, you know, what makes things really scary is when it's like where you're comfortable. Like, let's take where you're comfortable and let's turn that on its head. And where do you feel most safe and most comfortable except when you're actually fully asleep? And it's like nothing is safe. Nothing is safe. I don't know. How do you go to bed after this? I'm sure so many people couldn't go to bed after watching this movie when they first saw it and it came out in theaters.

Like horrible. Terrible. Going to bed is wonderful. Sacred. Sacred. Sacred. I have one last bit of trivia that is like possibly the scariest bit of trivia and that freaked me out uh as a kid and the story goes that wes craven kind of had this idea for

the freddy character as a kid uh he has this story that as a kid he was home and it was night time and he looked out his window and there was a man outside on the street on the sidewalk looking into the house and like looking straight at him and he made eye contact with this man and the man was wearing a hat and he was just like fuck this and like closed the curtains and like left right and was just like oh my god the scary dude outside and he like waited waited waited and he went back and he opened the curtains and like left. Right. And it was just like, Oh my God, the scary dude outside. And he like waited, waited, waited.

And he went back and he opened the curtains and looked outside. And the man was still there. Just standing there staring at him. No. Fuck that. No, thanks. Also,

can you imagine being a creepy dude who like you've, you've been caught, you've been fully seen. And I'm being like, I'm just going to wait it out. I'm just going to stay here. Yep. Yeah. And if you wanna

if you wanna have a brief synopsis of number two that's the that's the gay one because the protagonist is a teenage boy and Freddie keeps like coming to him in his dreams well the thing is the thing is Nancy's

family has moved out of this house and a new family moves in and they've got a teenage boy and he moves into Nancy's bedroom and he finds her diary and he starts reading about Freddie. And then Freddie comes to him and it's just like, I'm going to use you to like, do my, do my, yeah.

And there were like these sexual undertones. super sexy because Freddie's fully just like I've got the brains, you've got the body. It says weird stuff like that. Oh my god. The Mark Patton character is saying that Freddie's inside of me.

He's like, there's someone inside me. Oh no. Yeah, okay. Listeners, go listen to that episode. Wow. Indeed. I am curious. That's a nightmare in Elm Street. me oh no yeah okay listeners go listen to that episode wow I am curious so yeah that's Nightmare on Elm that's A Nightmare on Elm Street you guys thank you

that was so good what a fucking insane movie I'm so happy that I know about it but I also am dreading having to go to bed tonight so Freddy Krueger just turned into a big pop culture figure of the 80s that even if you two hadn't seen this movie, you know who Freddy Krueger is just because it's just

that a part of culture is just Robert England in that sweater, hat and glove. Yeah, for sure. Unforget unforgettable. Yes. Unforgettable. OK, well, one thing we do is we say what did we learn and you already said it Emily but while I was watching it I was

like I learned that cops are inefficient and we don't need we don't need them and potentially dangerous teenage girls could do their jobs better than they can very dangerous cops are doing the opposite of what they should be doing

believe women and cops aren't the solution that's what I was going to say is that kind of a big theme of all of the sequels is for parents to listen to their kids yeah there's all these parts in all of the movies where the kids are saying

what's wrong but the adult figures just dismiss them as being just crazy teenagers. So listen to your kids. You never know. Listen to your kids. I'm so happy we finally got to do this. I'm sorry it took many months. It's okay. This was a lot of fun.

And the other thing that we do is we do a fun voice when we say goodbye and freddie's voice is just kind of creepy so do we all just want to do a creepy goodbye yes the creepiest goodbye we can think of with no other no context just do no context for you two that haven't seen it just what you imagine freddie's voice would sound like and for us, our best impression. So, from all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch, goodbye! Goodbye!

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