Too Scary; Didn't Watch - ALIEN: ROMULUS (LIVE!) with Haley Joel Osment
Episode Date: August 28, 2024Deep-throating facehuggers, chest-bursting xenomorphs, a rag-tag group of stoned space explorers and the most horrifying depictions of pregnancy known to man - we're recapping Fede Alvarez's ...ALIEN: ROMULUS! Aliens expert, Haley Joel Osment returns to help us bid adieu to the best summer of our lives - HELLCHELLLAA FOREVER!!!This episode has been edited from a LIVE show. The unedited video is available on our Patreon.Movie & Guest Intro @ 03:57Trivia @ 24:30Recap starts @ 35:19TrailerFollow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram.Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content!Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is a HeadGum Podcast.
This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hi everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too
scared to watch for themselves.
I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Hemley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies.
I'm Sammie and I love watching scary movies and so I watch them so that you don't have
to and my heart is breaking a little bit today.
Oh my god.
It's breaking a little bit. Because this is the final episode of Hell Chella.
Don't say it.
Don't say it.
I'm going to miss it so much.
I can't believe it.
In just probably 90 minutes to two short hours,
we will have survived Hell Chella.
Fingers crossed, fingers crossed. We're almost at the end here.
Hopefully the big one doesn't hit
while you got over recording.
That's not nice to say.
You're not in LA, so you don't get to say that.
I'm not in Connecticut.
You don't get to say that.
Although it would be really horrible for you too
because you'd have to watch it happen
to your closest friends. I know, I know. That would be really horrible for you too because you'd have to watch it happen to your closest friends.
I know, I know.
That would be not okay.
That would be not okay.
Yeah, so I hope so too.
I can't believe it's over.
It was probably the best summer of my entire life.
My entire life.
Yeah, my entire life.
I agree.
Wow.
And Henley, not to pressure you,
but I do see a little bit of the comments on the YouTube
channel of people saying they're going to get hell chela tattoos if you get a tattoo.
Wait, what?
What?
Get it Henley, get it Henley, look how cute you are.
I'm going to get it.
I'm going to.
Just as to when.
That's the big question. That's the big question.
That is the big question everybody's asking.
You know, Emily, I think you're just gonna have
to skip your wedding so that you can come with me
while I get my tattoo.
I think that's the priority.
That makes sense.
For sure.
Right?
That makes sense.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
Yeah, no, obviously I'm gonna get it, you guys.
And that means all of you guys have to get
Hellchella tattoos too. Emily and I got ours touched up this week get it, you guys. And that means all of you guys have to get Hell Chella tattoos too.
Emily and I got ours touched up this week.
Oh, you got them touched up?
Got some more color added in.
Added some more color.
Oh, yes, the color, wait, on Emily's was different
than on yours, Sammy, a little bit.
Yeah, they match kind of now.
Okay. Match better.
Great. They match better.
Great. Brighter, bolder.
Brighter, bolder.
And we got other tattoos too.
You did?
We did, we got other tattoos.
I don't know anything about your lives.
I don't know.
We just get a lot of tattoos now.
Is it because, did you just get tattoos that say Henley?
Or you didn't want to tell me?
Yeah, we wanted to keep it a secret from you.
Yeah, we'll show you later.
We have just one piece of haunted housekeeping, which is that if you want these beautiful
Helcella shirts that Emily and I are wearing, they are available for one more week-ish till
end of August at bonfire.com slash helcella.
So get them, get those limited edition Helcella shirts.
I'm very happy with mine. I'm very happy with mine.
I'm very happy with mine.
If that helps anybody.
They're very soft.
They are very soft.
They're so soft.
Yeah, they're nice.
Really good.
Premium quality.
But like not too drapey, you know?
You want a shirt to have a little bit of,
I want a shirt to have a little bit of shape to it,
you know?
And it does.
So anyway, it's the perfect shirt.
Perfect shirt.
That's all I'm saying. Oh my God, okay, you know. And it does. So anyway, it's the perfect shirt. Perfect shirt. That's all I'm saying.
Oh my God.
Okay, you guys, I'm so excited for this episode.
I am so excited.
Even though I don't want it to be over, I also am very excited for it to begin.
Oh, exactly.
Because today we are going to be recapping Alien Romulus.
This has been my most anticipated horror movie of the summer. Whoa.
And that is because it is directed by Fede Alvarez,
who also directed the 2013 Evil Dead and Don't Breathe,
the former of which had me levitating around my apartment afterwards because it
was so gory and great. And I loved it so much.
Gory and great.
Oh my God.
As we remember, it had the most fake blood ever used in a movie by tens of thousands
of gallons, just absolutely blowing the previous record holder out of the water.
So I felt that this was in good hands.
It was written by Fede Alvarez and Rodrigo Saiguez, starring Kayleigh Spany, David Johnson, Isabella Merced,
Eileen Wu, Archie Raynaud, and Spike Fierne
in theaters right now.
And we have a guest with us today,
an alien slash aliens, alien franchise.
You might remember him from previous episodes, an expert.
And in the new movie, Blink Twice,
which I can't wait to freaking hear more about.
Oh yeah, we're gonna talk more about that.
Hee hee hee hee.
Here he is, Hailey Joel Osment.
Let me bring him on.
Wee!
Hello!
Hailey Chella!
Hailey Chella!
Hailey Chella!
Oh my god, my wristband got here just in time.
Yes! For the last day. Oh my god, my wristband got here just in time. Yes.
For the last day.
Yay.
Yes, perfect.
Hailey, welcome back.
Welcome back, Hailey.
Thank you so much.
It's really nice to be back here
continuing our alien journey together.
Good.
That we had so much fun doing aliens.
Really did.
And it's funny because I've still watched it
several more times.
You have?
Since we did that.
How many times total are we at about?
I mean, I must watch it at least once a year
and that was three years ago, terrifyingly.
Doesn't seem like that.
That is crazy.
And then I watched it last week before,
in preparation for this,
I watched all the aliens to get ready for it,
which was a lot of fun.
That doesn't surprise me. You knew that movie like the back of your hand. I watched all the aliens to get ready for it, which was a lot of fun.
That doesn't surprise me.
You knew that movie like the back of your hand.
It was like you weren't even like, it was just there.
It was just right front and center.
He was watching it in his brain as he was telling us.
Very impressive.
It was a great memory palace exercise,
the scariest palace to go.
That would be crazy if that was,
you could pull that off to remember anything,
but you had to be in the alien universe.
LV-233 or whatever.
Yeah.
That's great.
I wouldn't like it.
I wouldn't like it.
And just so everybody knows,
we all saw Alien Romulus together,
Emily included, not Henley, not Henley.
Sorry, not Henley, not Henley.
But me.
But Emily saw it.
I did. I'm so proud. And me. But Emily saw it. I did.
I'm so proud.
And I had a great fucking time.
You did?
I had a great fucking time.
And we'll get there, but I think I could feel
the five years of the podcast and the five years of Sammy
in my brain and heart because there are parts
where I was like, could have gone harder.
And it was really great and really fun,
but we'll get there.
I was sort of like, I mean, ramp it up a notch at least.
I agree.
I watched not all of it.
I watched Alien, Aliens and Prometheus and Covenant,
which I had not seen in preparation for this.
And after seeing Prometheus and Covenant, I was like, okay,
so the gore has been here.
People have been ramping it up and I agree now as well. I was like, okay, so the gore has been here. People have been ramping it up, and I agree now as well.
I was like, they should have gone harder, but.
Wait. Totally.
I think that I saw Prometheus, by the way,
in theaters when it came out.
And is that the one where a woman fully cuts herself open
to give birth to an alien baby?
Yep. Yes.
Well, yeah, so they've been going there.
They've been going there. They've been going there.
They have been going there.
And then she like fights for so much longer after that.
She does keep injecting herself with like painkillers
and stuff.
So it's legit.
There is a comical amount of like fighting on the internet
about the realism of that on Twitter this week,
which I was really laughing about.
You're like, let's take a break. Not the realism of a on Twitter this week, which I was really laughing about. You're like, let's take a break.
Not the realism of a squid alien,
but they're like, she couldn't be running down the hallway
on drugs like that, it's impossible.
One of my favorite activities,
poking holes in logic of a movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Especially a sci-fi alien horror movie.
Yes.
Ooh, I can't wait. Oh my god, I'm late.
That and the people who like weigh down the upvotes on IMDB Trivia who were like, it's
funny because in Trummers, Kevin Bacon drives a truck and then later in Mystic River, he
also drives a truck.
I love those users submitted trivia top shelf stuff.
The truck talk in general on IMDB trivia.
There's always a comment about a truck.
This car is a 1972 Chevy that he drives.
I'm like, okay.
Nice.
Yeah.
I love to know it.
Awesome.
I also had a very proud moment as I was sitting next to Emily.
And I feel like she turned to me
with like a little bit of a smile on her face
and was like, Henley's not gonna like this.
You bitch.
I'm sorry, I think my words were,
Henley can't catch a fucking break.
Yeah, but there was a little bit of excitement.
I know, I just was excited to be on the side of knowing you.
You know, like I couldn't, I, and I am sorry,
honey, cause you're really,
you are really gonna hate some parts of this movie.
But knowing that the three of us were gonna know,
and then you weren't gonna know,
but you're gonna hate it the most.
I did enjoy it.
I do enjoy it.
And I'm sorry.
It's like Emily's my little student
and the student is becoming the teacher
I'm just you guys and you're matching freaking shirts and you're matching tattoos
That is not nice. I've been made available to you Henley
You know what's unfortunate about that is I have been looking at some Instagram messages and comments
and this has been reflected amongst some other listeners where they have said, Whoa, Henley
is really going to hate this one.
And what does that, you could probably guess kind of what that means for you.
Well there's some kid stuff. Is there some kid stuff that happens and baby stuff that
pregnant stuff?
Yeah, no matter, speaking. We're gonna find out.
Okay, alien babies, alien moms, alien babies and moms.
We'll get there, we'll get there, we'll get there.
They're still moms, you guys.
But I'm excited.
Yeah, before we get into it, you guys,
did anything scary happen to any of us this week?
Okay, something scary happened to me this week
that made me feel like my brain
was gonna fall out of my skull,
which is that this was also,
it had been, this past week was kind of like, it's kind of like a long week.
And I went and met up, I saw a new doctor for the first time who I liked. Great. So just
episode, but I haven't had a consistent primary care doctor in adulthood. Like at all. Like I've
not, I've, I think I've maybe maximum seen the same doctor like twice, which is, I gotta get,
long story short, I need a consistent doctor.
But I went to see this doctor and she was, you know,
asking me for my medical history and stuff,
and was like, have you had your Tdap shot
in the last 10 years?
And I was like, I don't know, probably not.
And she was like, we're supposed to get it every 10 years,
like we'll just do it.
And I was like, great, cool.
Oh, your tetanus shot.
Well, okay, so part of the Tdap is tetanus.
But when I was a kid, I feel like it was just tetanus.
Like they only told us tetanus.
That's the name I remember is the tetanus shot.
You had to get in seventh grade and made your arm really hurt.
Yeah.
So that's why I know it as.
So anyway, I get this shot.
I go to see Sammy for dinner that night.
And I was like, yeah, my arm's kind of sore
because I had to get my tetanus shot.
And Sammy's like, oh yeah, how is that different
from a Tdap shot? And I was like, it isn't, it's the same. And she was like, oh, why didn't you, why'd you have to get it? And I was like, because I had to get my tetanus shot. And Sammy was like, oh yeah, how is that different from a Tdap shot?
And I was like, it isn't, it's the same.
And she was like, oh, why didn't you,
why'd you have to get it?
And I was like, because you have to get it like every 10 years.
And she was like, right, so why did you,
you had to just get it?
And I was like, I felt like we were like speaking.
It was very funny.
We were both, I was so tired.
I was like, what are you, I did just get it.
And you were like, yeah, but like,
how is that different from the other one?
And I was like, what other one? And you're like, yeah, but like, how is that different from the other one? And I was like, what?
And I remembered through Sammy that yes, I did in fact get a Tdap shot like four months ago.
I remember this. I remember this. I didn't want to say it
out loud in case that wasn't the story. But that is the story.
You did just get the Tdap shot. I remember it too.
We both got them because our friend had a baby and you're
supposed to get a Tdap shot
before seeing a new baby.
And so both of us got Tdap shots.
And yeah, that's why I was like,
so why did you get a tetanus shot?
Like, cause it's the same as a Tdap shot.
What are you asking me?
What are you saying?
I'm literally writing down check vaccine records right now.
I know, I know.
They don't make it easy.
They don't make it easy.
They don't keep track.
Cause here's the thing, this time I thought Tetanus shot,
the last time it was cause Pertussis,
cause that's the one, it's part,
both of those are part of the T-Dep, I know that now.
But I, so I was like not logging them together.
And also I got the, that shot before at CVS.
Cause you can just like go get a shot, who cares?
And here, it turns out it's fine.
I'm not going to die.
You can get that, whatever.
But I was also just like,
I have such little awareness of my medical history. That I just showed up at a place for the first time I
was like yeah sure put that yeah I put it in my body I don't know only to find out that
I had just like literally like just gone. So funny. I like felt we were sitting at dinner
and I like felt the color drain for my face. I was like what's gonna's gonna happen to me? Like, what did I just do to myself?
This is also like, this is like a fear.
This is like a central fear of your like,
putting things in your body that you're scared of
what goes in your body.
Yeah.
I was just like, it just made me feel like,
how am I 33 years old and I don't know,
I don't have a doctor who knows if I've had a shot or not.
Cause I sure as fuck don't know.
Anyway, it's fine, I'm gonna survive.
I'm super, super protected against tetanus.
You can go play in the scrap yard
and feel completely safe as long as you want.
Yes, there's no other risk.
Throw in metal in the air.
Bring in all the cats from the street.
Bring them all in.
Everything's fine.
I'm super, super strong.
I'm a superhero now.
And I will be, no matter what,
seeing this one doctor for the rest of my life,
because I can't do this again.
Oh, Emily.
Really freaked me out.
It's fine.
I didn't like it.
I'm so glad you're okay.
I'm so glad.
Thank you, me too.
Thank God it's okay that you get that shot
two times in a fucking year
and I won't get it again until 2035.
Whoa. Mark your cow.
Giving myself an extra six months
just because I'm double booked.
Amazon will probably be sending it to you by then and it'll be like in
Prometheus, they'll just go and then throw it away.
It'll be like Jeff Bezos' head appearing.
Yeah, like a hologram of like, it's time for you.
And he'll give me a thumbs up.
So I'll tell you what happened to me that was scary this week. I went to the beach
with my family for the week and we didn't see Joe Biden, unfortunately, but we were
all staying in a house together and the very first night Silas is sleeping in a room with May
and then I'm in a room with Tim and then next to us
are my brother and sister-in-law, Carrie,
and their two kids, Sam and Leo.
And in the middle of the night,
I'm so asleep, completely asleep.
It's like the moment of the night that I'm most asleep
because it's like midnight.
So I've been asleep for like an hour and a half
or something and I'm like really tired.
So I start having a dream where I hear Silas going,
mama, mama, come sleep next to me, mama.
And I'm like, oh, what's this dream?
And then I kind of like get shaken awake by Tim,
and I realize like, oh, I think that that's actually Silas.
And I feel like it's getting louder.
And then I feel like it's getting less loud.
And I like roll out of bed, I go out into the hallway.
Silas is like, it's pitch black.
There's no lights whatsoever.
My little three-year-old boy is standing with the door open
to my brother and my sister-in-law's room
at my sister-in-law, like at her side of her bed going, will you sleep next to me?
Will you sleep next to me? And Carrie's like, what? What's happening? And I was like, I
think he thinks that you're me. I don't know. And I had to go sleep next to Silas. But it
was like so scary to like be half awake and your child is like in a different room
at someone else's bed, like asking them to sleep next to you.
And I had to be like, Silas, you're in the wrong place.
He was like, what?
Like-
Sorry for Silas too, I bet.
I know, I know, I felt so bad.
And nothing like that has happened before.
He's never like gotten out of bed
and wandered through the halls before.
So it was a first for both of us.
And I like barely remember what happened because I was so asleep.
But the next morning, Carrie was like, is he okay? Like what happened?
And I was like, sorry.
That was my child waking you up in the middle of the night,
trying to get you to sleep next to him.
I feel like that's a normal thing, right? Maybe it's the beginning of the night trying to get you to sleep next to him.
But I feel like that's a normal thing, right?
Maybe it's the beginning of that phase where like, oh, it's definitely normal.
I definitely used to always go into my mom's room and be like, I need to sleep in your
bed now.
I know.
We've just entered this stage because he's only been in like a normal bed for a couple
months now.
He was in a crib until recently.
So this is all new for all of us.
Really exciting stuff.
I know it is exciting, but it's also a little scary.
Yeah.
It's a little scary you guys.
Haley, anything scary?
Well, I was sitting in this movie theater
and I suddenly felt my lower back getting warm.
And then I was like, I'll just ignore it.
I'm probably, I don't know, I'm just imagining this.
And then it got hotter and hotter and hotter.
That's like, what is going on?
I did not know that any movie theater had seat warmers that you could
accidentally turn on with your leg.
Yeah, this is the what is the CityWalk AMC?
What is it? the Prime Theater?
The Prime Theater has heated seats,
and that came as a big surprise
while watching this very suspenseful movie.
I did the same thing, but I had had it happen before,
last Christmas actually, I went to see Ferrari by myself,
and I was like, something is really wrong, I'm so hot.
It was like winter, pretty normal temperature in there, and I was just like sweating, and I was like, something is really wrong, I'm so hot. It was like winter, pretty normal temperature in there
and I was just like sweating and I was like,
I think I'm dying, like I don't know what's going on.
So I was primed and I primed in prime
and I figured it out pretty quick
but I know exactly the feelings you were going through.
Where you're like, am I about to get like,
yeah, food poisoning, am I gonna throw up
in like two seconds?
Sudden heat is never good.
It's like, what?
It's a hot dog there.
Yeah.
And there's a heat in like one area,
you're like, what's happening?
I can actually think though of two really memorable times
when I, like the flu got me while I was in a movie theater.
One was watching An Animal Lisa with my friend
and it was kind of like this.
I just broke out into a sweat and I was like,
oh shit, like I'm getting sick.
And then went home and was sick.
And the other one was that the Egyptian
with my dad and my sister,
we were watching the 35 millimeter Blade Runner cut.
And in that one, same thing, just like, oh, I'm sick.
All of a sudden, I'm just like sick with the flu for a week.
It's weird when you can like get that.
It happens on planes too.
Like if your immune system's gonna go for you,
they're like, now is a good, as good a time as any
to attack your body.
He's sitting still.
Yeah.
It's making him very sick.
I have one more scary story that did not happen to me,
but your tetanus experience reminded me of this.
When my dad was working in construction in his 20s,
I think this was when they were demolishing
some building and they were looking down the elevator shaft and saw a cat with some kittens
down there. They're like, oh, and he reached down to get the cat and it bit his arm and they got
all kittens and they took him to a rescue or whatever. And then throughout the week, he was
not feeling so great and the wound wasn't healing and then his lymph nodes started to swell up
And he's like alright like I'll go to the doctor and the doctor checked him out. It's like oh, yeah
It's it's cat scratch fever or toxoplasma. It's like if you don't treat this you'll die
Okay, good thing good time to go to the doctor like yeah
If you it's I guess it's related to rabies or something like if you let that go crazy in your blood
Cat's mouths are disgusting
Yeah, Joel got bit by one of our cats when he was a kitten
and got out and we had to like grab him.
And yeah, he had to go get a tetanus shot immediately.
And like his hand was, it was so gnarly.
It was like, it's not pleasant.
If you get bit by a cat, go to the doctor.
Yeah.
They're kind of like xenomorphs.
Like they have, they're able to survive acid for blood,
bacteria for a mouth.
Yeah. They really are. Cats are pretty gross. Like they're able to survive acid for blood, bacteria for a mouth, yeah.
They really are.
Cats are pretty gross.
Henley.
They're pretty gross.
Take it back.
You guys, I got a fucking king-size bed this week.
What? Oh my God.
Wait, wait, what?
Talk about the student becoming the master.
Oh my God.
Wait, did you get it from my mattress place?
Yes.
I got a DreamCloud mattress, not an ad.
It's just, I mean, I've only slept on it.
Just the mattress you got?
It's just the mattress I got.
Henley did recommend it.
So I've only slept on it for one night, but Henley can speak more to the longevity of
this mattress.
But I've had it a year.
It's working out great.
You know what?
They have sales all the time that make you feel like you're really getting a deal.
Labor day sale right now. Labor day sale right
now. No time like the present. Get that king-size bed. That's why I got it because I was like,
okay, there was one email that was like, some mattress is on sale and I was like, okay,
let me just shell out for a bed frame, sheets, blankets, mattress. A good billion dollars.
But it was on sale. so I'm saving money essentially.
Yes, I earned money.
But you guys, a king-size bed,
how am I ever gonna sleep in anything
other than a king-size bed ever again?
I'm telling you.
It's like all other beds have been ruined for me.
It's not scary because it's amazing
and everything in my life is better now,
but it's also like if I'm ever in a situation
where I have to sleep in a queen-size bed ever again,
I'm just gonna be like, I'm a huge a situation where I have to sleep in a queen size bed ever again. Too small.
I'm just gonna be like, I'm a huge giant
and this bed is teeny tiny.
Yeah.
Ow, ow, the bed is too small.
I, ee!
Joel and I are booking our honeymoon
and many beds in Europe are queen size beds
because it's small rooms and I've just been like.
Gotta sleep on the floor, Joel.
I'm sorry, it's our honeymoon but just gotta sleep
on the floor.
What the fuck are we gonna do
in all these queen size beds? And then you get there, it's our honeymoon, but you just gotta sit on the floor. What the fuck are we gonna do in all these queen-size beds?
And then you get there and it's queen,
and then you take off the, it's two twins shoved together
with the big canyon in the middle.
No, not allowed.
No air conditioning.
It does, it ruins all beds.
I do wanna put this out there to anyone listening.
If you guys have a suggestion about the best sheets
and the best duvet, please just let me know.
Because there's so many things online.
There's a lot of talk online about the best sheets
about duvet, but I don't really trust any of that shit
because I've purchased some of it and it's bad.
Like currently I'm using like wire cutters,
best sheets or something and they're objectively not good.
So I just want to say I trust our listeners a little bit more and please DM me.
Take that Wirecutter.
Just send me some personal DMs about what I should be purchasing for my bed.
Love that.
I want it to be like the best place in the world, you know?
No pressure. I just want it to be the best place in the world.
It should be. We spend a third of our lives there.
We all feel that way.
We do spend so much time there.
It should be a really great place.
And now mine is, and I just can't believe
that it wasn't until now, you know?
I'm so happy for you.
But I also did get three separate 100 pound boxes
delivered to my house.
And you know that I have like a really toxic independence where I'm like, well, I
can't ask anybody for help. So I'll do it all myself. And I really did almost hurt myself
like carrying this huge long like bed frame box up my cement staircase. Yeah, that was
like weighing me backwards. I was like, oh, I almost took a real tumble. But we got there
in the end and we got there in the end.
We got there.
Everything's good now.
You're so strong.
You're so strong because of that toxic independence.
You're the strongest person I know.
The problem is that, yeah, it's like I did it,
and now it's like, hell yeah.
I'm really great at everything, building beds.
I can do it all by myself.
I don't need anybody. Okay.
So, Aileen Romulus. Yes.
80% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Actually, I wrote this down a week ago.
So, sorry if this is out of date, but nonetheless.
Approximately 80%.
80% sounds right.
Can't have gone far.
64% on Metacritic, 7.4 on IMDB.
The budget was 80 million.
So far it has made 225.5 million.
That I did look up today.
So that is current.
That's been in like less than two weeks.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's great.
Good for them.
Good for them. Good for them.
There was like a lot of trivia,
but I feel like most of it was like the car stuff
that we were mentioning earlier.
So I didn't write a lot of it down.
But just so we know,
this movie takes place between alien and aliens.
It is 20 years after the events of alien
and 37 years before the events of Aliens.
Oh, okay.
And I thought this was interesting.
It was originally set to be released on Hulu, a la Prey.
Whoa.
And then they decided to release it theatrically.
And I just want to say, release it, all of it theatrically.
We didn't want Prey on Hulu.
Yeah, what are we doing?
I would have loved to see Prey in theaters.
Isn't that crazy? They were gonna stream this movie? I would have loved to see prey in theaters. Isn't that crazy?
They were gonna stream this movie.
I mean, they did it to prey.
And like, I would absolutely have gone
to see prey in theaters.
And I'm sad that I was not given that opportunity.
And even with some movies that come out now
that have big openings, they barely wait like three weeks.
They're like, now it's on streaming.
And you're like, if you just waited another month,
you will make money.
People are seeing this movie. Yeah. It's crazy. I also like word of mouth.
People hear about it a little bit later. Yeah. Give us some time. Give us some time. Give us some time.
Just give us some time. This is absolutely a theater movie, though. That's that is wild.
Imagine seeing this movie at home. Someone said that they heard a interview
or something with Fede Alvarez and Dan Trachtenberg
saying that they would do an Alien vs Predator situation.
Oh, shit.
That would rule.
You know, it is a little bit of like a fool me once situation.
Sure, sure, sure, but.
But I'm interested.
Fool me.
Fool me, can't get fooled again.
Can't get fooled again.
Fool me, can't get fooled again. Can't get fooled again.
Fool me.
Can't get fooled.
As a wise president.
Saying they got in Tennessee.
As someone really wise once said.
Fool me.
Can't get fooled again.
So that means that this Alien vs. Predator would have to be good.
Exactly.
Apparently, James Cameron loves Alien vs. Predator and ranks it third in his personal ranking.
Whoa.
Which is interesting. Which is interesting.
That is interesting.
I know that I've seen it.
I saw it in theaters and I haven't seen it since then,
so I don't actually recall much.
I'd be down for a re-watch.
I love a spine rip.
And I know that there's one in that.
And so I think there's an alien spine rip.
And so that scene alone is worth the price of admission for me.
But I remember overall being like,
so you guys want to watch this teaser?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kind of.
Kind of.
Yeah.
Well, you have to, Enzo.
You have to, it's your job.
Okay.
Okay, I have to upload it.
I didn't do this beforehand because fun fact, I woke up from a nap at 410.
That is a fun fact.
I mean, you got that new King bed.
You can't get out of that bed.
I wish you should still be in that bed right now during the episode.
From the bed.
If you revealed, you took your green screen away and you revealed you're just in your
bed.
I fucking wish I need to figure out.
I need to redo my setup. I fucking wish. I fucking wish I was still in your bed. I fucking wish I need to figure out I need to redo my setup.
I fucking wish I was still in my bed. I recorded a lot of episodes in my bed during COVID. I feel
like I was in my bed a lot. You're also pregnant a lot. You're pregnant a lot.
I know. I think a lot of the time you were pregnant.
I know so much. Okay. You guys ready?
Oh my God. I'm so much. Okay, you guys ready? Oh my god, I'm so ready.
Oh, that sound.
Come on, help me! No! No! What is it with Fede Alvarez and the mouth?
He just wants shit happening in the mouth.
Okay, well that is kind of one of the franchise trademarks.
So he does.
Kind of a whole thing.
I mean, those things have so many mouths.
No, but that's why they chose Fede.
They saw 2013 and they were like, you.
Yeah, you cut a tongue in half with a box cutter.
You'll be able to.
You'll know what to do.
You'll be able to do some cool face hugger stuff.
Yeah, I watched that teaser, I think, like 14 times in a row
when it first came out, specifically because of that shot
of the face hugger in the mouth.
Oh, the face hugger.
Ooh, that shot was gnarly.
So nasty.
Oh.
Oh, we're all reflecting on it like we've all seen.
She's the word.
We're all coming back from a cursed space expedition,
PTSD.
I mean, that made me wanna go see it again right away.
I think it's very funny.
I do wanna ask Haley, so as someone who is,
your great love is aliens, How does this one compare?
Like, were you feeling good about it at the end?
What did you think?
I had a lot of fun.
I really enjoyed it.
This will be interesting to talk about
because I feel like a lot of the things
that are happening with movies in general right now
and the decisions that are being made of like,
what shall we do with this franchise?
There's a lot of, like there is a lot of really
one-to-one references of shots and lines
from all the other movies.
And it happens pretty constantly throughout the movie.
So I really, it's really well made and I really enjoyed it.
But my favorite parts of the movie when they were letting
was when they were letting Fetty do more of his thing instead of going,
you have to do this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this and this.
And I'm just confused by it because I, a lot of times
I don't think that studios give their audiences credit of like people will remember that stuff.
Or you could do it a little bit more subtly and it'll be fun.
But like some of those lines that will come to later later, you're like, why? Why necessary? Yeah, like, or take another spin on it or something. But like, does it have
to be the same exact thing from those movies? It's weird. Yeah. Because I think it's happening.
And like, I think this sort of not to go into this world, but like with Star Wars, when
they rebooted, it was like, yeah, these are awesome. They're like, oh, wait, but they
are kind of like hitting all the same notes from the original movies.
The soft reboot can be a little bit frustrating.
I remember seeing some reviews that said,
you know, it doesn't really do anything new.
And my first reaction to that was,
I don't need it to do anything new.
Like the originals are great and that sounds great.
But then seeing it and being like, oh no,
it's actually doing some of the exact same things,
I can now understand the criticism.
Right, it's not just not you, it is the same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Are we gonna spoil the biggest thing from this movie?
No spoilers.
Let's get into the recap.
That's in the, okay, yeah, I'm not gonna jump the shark
in space, yeah.
Don't jump the space shark.
Don't jump the space shark. Jump the gun, don't jump the space. That's not the right thing. Don't jump the space shark.
Jump the gun.
Don't jump the gun.
Cannot shoot because it will blow a hole in the side of the ship.
Exactly.
Don't shoot the space.
Don't shoot space.
But yeah, let's get into the recap.
And then at the end, I think I'm like curious to hear everybody's rankings
as much as they know, because Emily, I know you haven't seen all of them.
I haven't. But yeah, let's do it.
Okay.
Let's do it.
I might ask him to bring me another drink.
I made the strongest mezcal soda of my entire life.
So I tried to get have like a bright green situation going on here, but it's not green
enough.
You can't really tell.
I'm so I'm so stupid.
We had time over the past week to go get one of those commemorative glowing green cocktail things.
And I totally forgot.
That was the scariest thing that happened.
We got to the theater and they had a picture of it,
but they didn't have any left for us.
They didn't.
What?
It was also scary because you're allowed to drink
in the prime, you're allowed to bring your cocktails
into the prime theater at the top level,
but not the bottom level.
And I didn't know that.
And I was like, you guys are gonna be so fun. We can bring our drinks in.
We stock up.
We've got like everyone has fresh drinks and we go downstairs.
And this like we got fully scolded.
We got really scolded by AMC employee.
He was like, we're trying to pull a fast one.
Turn around.
We're like, turn around.
We're like, what's the problem?
Are those cocktails?
Yeah.
So then you just have to sit and you're like, basically. Yeah.ug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug.
Basically, yeah.
Also, it's so crazy to be like, are those drinks?
It's like, yeah, we got them here.
Like, you serve them here.
That is really, that doesn't make any sense to me.
It was, it was confusing.
My friend tried to order from that bar
when we all saw Barbie on the same day in the summer.
But as it was a Sunday, although it was in the afternoon,
my friend went up to the bar and it was closed.
He was like, why is it closed?
And the woman was like, it's Sunday,
and you should really be in church.
No.
No.
I do have to say I live at a church.
Haley, I don't know if you know that.
You live at a church?
Yeah.
That's awesome.
And someone did say to my husband, who's a priest,
sorry, I don't know if you know that, Hailey, again.
Oh, no, I do remember that, yeah.
Someone said to him one time,
everything's really just gone downhill
since everyone started going shopping on Sundays.
Shopping on Sundays, the biggest sin known to man, probably.
Wow, I am so curious to know what the everything is
that that person's referring to.
And also, Tim just like, mm-hmm, of course,
yes, you should agree.
I think I am going to help out with society.
Being someone that was raised Catholic,
I wanna bring back fish only on Fridays.
I think it's an interesting challenge.
Fish Fridays, that's fun. And scolding other people for having me, you know, McDonald's fish filets, all three meals
every Friday. That's how you can do it. There's a lot of different ways to do fish on Friday.
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All right, we open in space where else?
And it gradually becomes clear as we're floating through space,
through this debris field, because
we see a chunk of metal floating by that says Nostromo on it, which is the name of the ship
in the very first Alien, we realize we're in the debris field of the destroyed spacecraft
after Sigourney Weaver blew it up with nuclear weapons in 1979 or 2197 or whatever it was.
Something like that.
So another ship appears and is all very cool
and it has a cargo bay that opens up
and it captures this really interesting chunk of rock
or fossilized something in space, guides it into itself.
It's a scientific ship. We see a bunch of scientists in protective gear and there's
rubber curtains everywhere and you're like, that's not going to protect you from the stuff
that happened to this movie. And it comes in and as it's deposited in the cargo bay
in front of this team of people who look like they're working on the Manhattan Project or about to take possession of it, you start
to see shapes in the rock that reveal that it's the body or fossil of the alien that
Sigourney Weaver blew out into space at the end of the first movie. And then the lines
come up on the famous hieroglyphs come up on the screen and we see the title Alien Romulus.
And then we find ourselves on a mining colony
called Jackson Star.
Okay, remembering the name of the mining colony.
I'm gonna remember that, but I'm gonna get like
serious scene orders in this.
I did not remember that, Jackson Star.
And of course, nobody sprinted to the bathroom
at certain points during the movie
because we had to drink everything so fast.
Yeah, we did have to chug a lot of drinks before.
No one did that.
We were locked right in.
Isn't it fun when you're in a movie, particularly a movie,
this wasn't a long movie, like a three hour movie,
where you're like, how am I gonna try
and anticipate a scene that I can miss?
I have to pee in.
It's my number one thought in long movies,
is like, how am I going to do this?
Yeah, yeah.
So, but we're not there yet.
We're at Jackson Star, and we meet Kayleigh Spanning,
who plays the character Rain Carradine.
So she is the great-great-granddaughter
of the Carradine brothers, David Keat, no.
But.
From Kung Fu.
It was like the last name went right over my head.
Yeah. Oh, that rain.
Carradine that rain.
Go. Yeah.
She didn't want to be an actor.
She wanted to be stranded on a mining.
Totally. I get it. Decades and decades.
Yeah. Much cooler life.
So rain has a synthetic person with her.
What are they? What do they prefer to be called?
Artificial person. That's what Lance Hendricks. Artificial person, artificial person. Yeah. What do they prefer to be called? Artificial person?
That's what Lance Hendricks and what she called.
Oh, artificial person, artificial person.
Yeah.
But at this point, she's calling him her brother.
Yep.
Yes.
Andy.
And it's revealed that her parents who have died
from the black lung in space, basically,
from mining on this planet,
her dad found this android on a junk pile,
reprogrammed to be a sibling to his daughter,
and gave him a prime directive of protecting her
and making sure that she's safe.
And he has a charming little thing
where he does endless dad jokes
because he was programmed by her dad.
So they're always doing silly space dad jokes
throughout this part of the movie.
It's very nice.
Wait, hold on.
Does anyone have a favorite dad joke?
Sorry, I just want to ask.
In the world?
I just have one I want to tell everyone.
In the world?
Out of the infinite choices of dad jokes,
you're going to make us choose just one, Henry?
Okay, so the only one I know is what makes a dad joke a dad joke?
It's a parent.
How good is it?
Chef's kiss, it's the best joke, I'm sorry.
I love that.
We do, we love it.
That's the ur dad joke, the first dad joke.
These ones are kind of like space related in general.
I have a really terrible memory for jokes though.
I have no like standard jokes.
Yeah, I don't know.
Okay.
They're walking down the main drag
and this is, it looks like a pretty rough place to live.
There's sparks and lava and black smoke everywhere.
It's Blade Runner 2049-esque.
Yeah.
Yeah, we get a thing that says like hours of daylight.
Zero.
Zero.
So it's always night there.
Which I did not understand because like they just get away
from the clouds and you're like, well, wait,
is that a reference to how many times the planet rotates
or is it just always cloudy there?
That was confusing to me.
I did not get lost on that train of thought.
I just went, ooh, scary.
So they're walking down the main drag
and this was something interesting to me because
it looked like they were trying to recreate the rear projection effect from when in Aliens
they land the drop ship and the little personnel carrier comes out and starts down the road
and in the background you see the like helicopter thing flying away in the background. It's this really cool effect they did with miniatures and rear projection
I think and it really looked like they were trying to replicate that kind of quality to
it in the background which is cool but it's also funny because in the aliens commentary
you can just hear how annoyed James Cameron is with the limitations of that stuff and
how he could not wait to start making that with computers
So it would look better to him. And so in a movie that's being made, you know
40 years later were like trying to recreate the
Limitations of the movie that he made it kind of was a little foreshadowing for the how this franchise has to wrestle with its origins
Yeah while making a movie in our current time. So
Kayleigh Spany or rain Carradine is trying to
So, Kayleigh Spany or Rain Carradine is trying to petition the Weyland-Yutani company to be allowed to go off world because she has served however many years of her mining contract
for the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, which I guess is the only corporation in the galaxy.
And the woman at the DMV style desk tells her that the regulations have changed and
she has another seven years I think that she's supposed to stay.
Yeah, it's like five to seven.
They just like she looks at her computer screen and it's like quota met and then she's like
hmm and types in and just raises the quota and she's like no, you're not going to you're
not going to get to go and Kayleigh Spani Rain wants to go to evaga I think is the name of the alien planet. Yes, which has sunlight and there's like kind of this
You know, it's like a light at the end of the tunnel like
Dream of her being able to see the Sun
So yeah, and now this woman being like no you have to keep working in the mines like your parents did the company
Thanks you for your service. Yeah
I in the mines like your parents did. The company thanks you for your service. Yeah. I wondered, they couldn't really be doing this,
but Evaga sounds like what they,
I've shot a movie in Poland,
and instead of saying like rolling or quiet,
they go, Evaga, chicha!
And I was like, oh, does Evaga mean like caution or look out?
Like, is that like a super deep cut?
For you specifically?
Yeah, for me.
And then they turned up the heat on my chair
and then zapped me a couple times.
We're really gonna freak Hailey out in this movie.
The chair started vibrating, yeah.
What did you do to Fede?
Yeah, I don't know.
Gotta find out.
So now you're gonna have to fill in one gap for me.
I forget who summons Kailey Spany, but.
I don't actually know either,
but I think she gets some sort of text essentially
from her group of friends
that seems like she hasn't hung out with in a while.
Maybe she dated one of them.
Was the bye bye guy.
I believe that is her ex-boyfriend, yeah.
Tyler is his name.
And I think it's probably Kay who texts her,
who is Tyler's sister.
And it's just a r texts her, who is Tyler's sister.
And it's just a ragtag crew of young 20-somethings that all of their parents have, they've just
been like kind of sentenced to this life of coal mining and all probably don't want to
be on this planet or searching for a way out. And so they text her something like, you know, we have a lead on something interesting.
Come check it out with us.
So she heads over to their spaceship and...
Yeah, their little clubhouse.
Gets the low down.
Everybody's joshing with each other.
Her brother's... What's her brother's name again?
Andy.
Andy.
Andy, that's right.
From Toy Story.
And they... Yeah, it's written on his plastic shoe. Yeah yeah yeah. There's so many Toy Story references.
It's really weird. Studio execs love doing that. Yeah it's so weird. Same cinematic universe. It's
crazy. Sid is there on the ship. So they inform her that they have discovered an old Weyland-Yutani signal floating above
this planet.
It's a derelict ship that has drifted out of deep space and they are trying to acquire
cryo fuel because it's nine light years or something to get to Evaga.
They all want to go to Evaga, but they can't get there because they don't have enough supplies to survive the trip there. So they all need to be in
hyper sleep in order to make this jump. So they surmise that on this Weyland-Yutani ship
is going to be a bunch of cryopods. They can collect that fuel, put it on their ship, and
then they can all just get out of town and go to Iwaga and go to surf camp or something
like that.
What could go wrong? What could go wrong?
They also say that the reason they've reached out to Reign
is that they need Andy because Andy is a Weyland-Yutani
synthetic and he'll be able to access certain parts of the ship
because the synthetic droid, they have keys to you know, be able to operate open airlocks
and operate the machinery and whatever.
So they're like, we need Andy.
He can stick his finger into the hole like R2D2 and go and then open doors
and stuff like that.
I did.
Now this was one little reference that I enjoyed is the supercomputer on the first ship was called Mother. They're always talking to Mother
to request things. And it's the programming language you see pop up. It's
M-U-T-H something something eight. I was like, okay. I like that.
Yeah, I did like that. I was like, oh!
Mother. Wait, and which one? Oh, it's in Resurrection.
The computer's called Father.
So they launch in this ship.
Yeah, they say like, we're about to hit the clutch,
just like a chaotic launch.
And I think the way that gravity or acceleration
is working in that moment,
I guess we should say the other characters on board
who are Tyler, who seems to be Rain's ex-boyfriend, his sister, Kay,
his cousin, Bjorn and Navarro, who's the pilot.
Who seems to be romantically involved with Bjorn.
Yeah, and so yeah, those four plus Rain and Andy
And so, yeah, those four plus Rain and Andy and Bjorn is immediately pretty rude to Andy. It seems like he has some prejudice against synthetics and he's kind of a dick to him
right off the bat.
But the moment that I liked is when they're in this accelerated launch sequence and he
lights his lighter to smoke a joint, I think.
Oh, that was cool. Yeah.
They played with like the the air compression or something changing as they go through the atmosphere.
So he has this giant, giant flame come out.
Yeah. So he smokes a joint in like two seconds.
It's like really made me.
That's fun. That's great.
I like that. Really great way to like get across how little they're worried about.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Look how fast I can smoke this.
These guys like mental space as they're going to an alien spaceship
that they've never been to before.
And they're just like, oh, smoky weed.
So fun. We're having a good time.
But yeah. So then they burst through the clouds and at least, I don't know if this is all
their first time leaving the atmosphere, but the sun goes across their face and she has a moment of
like enjoying feeling the sun for the first time and it looks very pretty out in space. So they
start approaching this derelict craft which is looks kind of like a giant spinning top in space and later we see
that it's they didn't go into this too much but I like that the design of the ship was
Romulus and Remus as two modules and there's a lot of like you know a lot of the murals and stuff in
this science ship is the reference to the mythological story of the two brothers who were suckled by a wolf in prehistoric Rome.
And I guess Romulus kills Rebus at some point and gets to name the city after
himself.
Suckling reference I hadn't noticed at the time.
Yeah, someone pointed that out to me.
Henley, pay no mind to that.
Don't worry about what I just said.
I also feel like when they see the sun, I feel like is this when they mentioned
they all wanna go to Evaga and Andy's like,
I'm excited to see the sun with you.
And we learn that Andy won't be allowed onto Evaga
because the planet doesn't allow synthetics.
And Rain knew this and never told Andy.
And it's like a sad little moment,
but Andy says like, whatever's best for Rain
because that's his prime directive. And so it is like a sad little moment, but Andy says like, whatever's best for Rain because that's his prime directive.
And so it is like this kind of heartbreaking moment
where we realized that Rain was prepared
to just like leave him behind.
But I think also she like didn't have any real prospect
of getting there.
Yeah.
Well, no, I guess she thought she had met her quota.
So she's clearly very torn up about it,
but yes, you're right, you're right, you're right.
But Andy, by the way, played by David Johnson
from industry, I love him.
He's so good in this.
He was so- Really, really good.
Kayleigh Spanning was, everyone was good in it,
but oh my God, he was-
He's Gus from industry.
Oh yes, I love him.
He's great.
Yeah, great.
Nice. So good.
Very good.
So they dock with this ship
and they are taking readings from it.
What did they discover about the inside of the ship?
Can they breathe the air?
Can they not breathe the air?
They can't breathe the air at first.
Yeah.
And it's very cold.
That's that, that was the other one. Yeah.
The other thing is that the way that it is in orbit with their planet,
I believe, is that it is going to eventually collide with the rings.
Like if you think of the rings around Saturn,
there is going to be an impact in 36 hours.
Tyler assures everyone, you know, we'll be in and out in 30 minutes.
So that's not a big deal at all. All of us in the audience are like, few, obviously that's
not going to come into play later. We're all really extremely relieved.
Yes. So it's going to be two of the guys plus Andy going into this ship because it's
Tyler, Bjorn and Andy, Tyler, Bjorn and, and Andy, because it's such a quick errand.
They get out the classic motion sensor sort of gun,
I think, to search through the ship,
and they see that the cryo stuff is located in a room
not too far from there.
They enter the ship, they're walking down the hallway,
it's suspenseful.
They're like floating at first,
because it's zero Gs.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
But I didn't quite understand this, but there's some sort of gravity timer on the ship where
each 10 minutes, I think, it basically reboots.
And gravity gets, like regular gravity comes into play.
And so you're floating and then you fall to the ground or whatever.
And so there's just this kind of loop of gravity
or no gravity gravity.
It's being turned on and off in a way that.
It kind of reminds me of how, do you guys have this?
I have a window unit and it's like,
if you put it on energy saver mode, the AC,
it's like it's 72 degrees, great.
And it will shut off and then like,
oh, it's too hot and immediately turn back on.
And so anytime we forget to turn that mode off
in the middle of the night, it always wakes us up
because it's so fucking loud.
It'd be like, choo, choo, and just like turn immediately
back on.
Yes, it's exactly like that.
It's exactly like that.
I had a really fun experience with that.
I was staying at like a pod hotel next to this.
I was doing a play in New York this summer
and I was like, I'll just stay next door in the Yotel,
which is nice and clean
everything, but it was really hot.
And I turn on the AC and I'd wake up in the middle of the night, just
drenched in sweat, the room is boiling.
I was like, what?
And then finally, like the second night I'm like taking the unit apart,
trying to find like where the button is.
And there's a little sticker that says, don't worry when the
motion sensors activated, the AC will turn back on.
I have to be going like this to turn on the AC.
So not only does it shut off when you're still,
as in sleeping, but then it won't come back on
until you're like, ah, burning up.
No.
So I hope they save so much money.
I was literally going to stick my iPad up by the ceiling
so that it would have moving shapes to turn it on.
So I got out of there.
That rivals an experience I also had
with an air conditioning unit,
which was a standalone standing air conditioning unit.
And in the middle of the night,
it would fill up with water and go,
beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep,
until I woke up and emptied the water in the sink and then put it back in.
And then I would get another like two, three hours
and it would fill up with water again.
I go beep, beep, beep.
Oh my God.
Terrible, terrible experience.
Oh man.
But you know what?
It's not as bad as whatever the hell is about to happen.
I think it is as bad.
Whatever's happening here is for these folks. I think it is. Whatever's happening here is friendly.
I think it is as bad.
And I'm really sorry for you that that and Hailey that that happened to both of you guys.
You know what? Thank you.
Thank you. That does mean a lot.
Thank you, because I was very upset and I had no one to share it with when it was happening.
So, yes, they go to the ship and it's dead.
There's no gravity.
But then when David sticks his finger into the computer hole and reboots it then this cycling gravity thing comes back on and it introduces the
the quality of this ship because I guess it's rotating to create their gravity that every so
often it has to recharge so everybody floats for a second and then slams really hard down into the
floor. They make their way towards the cryo room and on their way they are going through
a laboratory where clearly something terrible has happened. There's chairs overturned,
things are smashed on the ground, there is definitely a big hole in the ground that's been
burned away with acid, and they are amazingly like, like chill with a half person,
like half of a body is hanging out by the hall
in the uniform of the science officer from the first movie.
And they go, huh, let's keep moving.
The ship is really, I'm not the first person
to point this out obviously,
but it's wonderful just how wet these movies are.
There's just water and moisture and dripping everywhere.
If we were in 4DX, that little water dripper
would have just been spraying us.
Oh boy.
I have a huge complaint, which is that every time
I've gone to 4DX, like the past four times I've gone
to 4DX, the water aspect has been turned off.
And I always turned it on on the seat.
I'm always like, I wanna be sprayed in the face
when we're in a water scene.
And it's never happened.
Well, we are going to see Twister and Twisters next weekend.
And if it's on, there's a lot of water opportunities
in those movies.
They better fucking deliver.
Cause I'm at my wit's end.
We might get fucking drenched.
I hope so.
So there's dripping,
and they get to the room with,
I believe they get to the room
with the six cryo tubes, right?
They get in there.
Yeah, they're like, hell yeah, we got it, we found them.
Easy, movie over,
and they check on them,
and oh no, the battery is depleted. Something might have
gone wrong with something in those cryotubes, but we can't really tell. They're just checking
the battery and the battery is depleted. So they go, shit. So they're scanning the ship
for more signatures of the cryotubes and there's another room around the corner that has more
of those. They're like, all right, we'll go check out that room.
They get to this room, they have Andy,
and this one is locked, right?
Yes, so Andy opens it, but then as it closes behind them,
it kind of jams on something,
so there's a couple inch gap, but they're in this room,
which again is like slightly flooded.
It has like a couple inches of water on the floor.
They find a wall of spare batteries for this cryo stuff
and they go over there and they're testing it
and a lot of them are damaged
and everything's kind of messed up in this room too.
Almost as if there was some horrible event
that happened in it a while back.
And they go, great, these have enough fuel
and they're trying to pull them out of the wall
and it's revealed to us, but not the, oh wait, no,
Andy walks over to the end of this room
and this is a room where they were freezing stuff.
We don't know why they're freezing stuff.
Cold in this room.
Yeah, this was the walk-in freezer
and they go over to the end of the room
and there are rows and rows of these little compartments
where they have wrapped up like little things of beef
at the supermarket, the facehuggers,
just dozens and dozens of facehuggers.
Like walls of them.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're all there, and as they have entered the room
and started to take the fuel out,
the temperature starts to rise,
and all of the little compartments have little readouts going from like negative something. They're unbeknownst to them the fuel out, the temperature starts to rise and all of the little compartments have little readouts
going from like negative something.
They're unbeknownst to them raising the temperature
in that room by pulling these batteries out.
And that is thawing the facehuggers and letting,
there looks to be what, like 80 or so of them.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, I can't do this, but a lot.
They don't know their facehuggers.
They don't know what they're looking at.
They have no idea.
No, and they don't even see them yet.
It's in a different part of the little room that they're in.
But even if they did, they have no concept for these guys.
They're too stoned to pay attention.
Way too stoned.
Are they stoned or are they like not?
Well, at least one guy is.
Just Bjorn. Just Bjorn.
So they get the fuel they need, and then they
try to leave the room, but the door is jammed.
And yeah, as you said, they discover
that Andy does not have clearance to exit this room.
It says contact science officer.
So they get on the horn, and they call the ship.
They say, hey, we're still.
Oh, they're watching them on the cameras, too,
as they're going through.
And they're like, hey, can you come try and get us out
of here, because we can't exit this room.
So is it Kay and Rain?
Navarro and Rain, I think.
Because we've maybe established, Kay and Rain
had a moment earlier where they were talking with each other,
and we learned that Kay is pregnant.
Don't worry about that Henley.
Yeah, so Kay is pregnant, so Kay,
and she's not like feeling well, so she stays on the ship.
We got a pregnancy folks, we got a pregnancy.
We got a pregnancy, yeah.
And because they can't get out of this room,
Navarro and Rain are like, okay, let's go help them.
And as they're moving through the room,
Navarro finds this little X-ray rod thing
that she can shine through her arm and it shows her bones.
So some sort of medical device and she's like, oh, cool.
And it's gonna stay cool and nothing bad's ever gonna happen
with that.
Just for fun. Wait, I'm sorry. Maybe you said this, but does Kay have a love interest in this? Do we issue?
Okay, you guys, I read something really weird, which is that...
Okay, I had this same thought.
Yes, which it kind of does happen a little late. There's like a moment where Bjorn and her
share a little connection.
And Fede Alvarez confirmed that Bjorn is the father.
But he's also her cousin.
Her cousin.
Oh, and Bjorn's also in a relationship with Navarro.
See, yeah, they had that moment and I was like,
I'm gonna just assume that that's not that
cause that's her cousin, but I guess that's what it is.
It's space and anything can happen.
She is, she doesn't tell Rain, Rain says who's the father
and she says just some like-
Some asshole.
Asshole, which is just like, oh yeah, okay.
So that's not great.
Ugh.
So Rain and Navarro were trying to figure out
how to get them out of the room,
and we're seeing, this part is so cool and so nasty,
the facehuggers are all thawing,
and they're like plunking into the water at their feet.
So now there's all these little guys
fucking swimming around their feet.
I think this is my favorite part of the movie,
this like sequence.
It's so good.
This was great, yeah.
This was a real high point in the movie, this sequence. It's so good. This was great. Yeah. This was a real high point in the movie.
So I forget the exact sequence events that happened,
but they get to the door.
They're trying to unbar it.
I think they've retrieved the chip now,
because they're like, Andy will be able to get you out
of the room if we update his credentials or whatever to like have he
can like, because right now he's putting his finger in and it's saying no, you don't have
access contact science officer and they're like, well, this Android that's dead here
was the science officer of this previous ship. So we can bring his little chip, put it into
Andy's drive and reboot him with the correct credentials.
And so because there's a little two inch gap in the door,
they're able to hand this through to Tyler
and she's, Rain is saying like, put this in Andy
and then you guys will be able to get out.
So they put it in Andy and then his head like flings
backwards, his eyes roll up in his head.
We see the Wayland Yutani logo on his eyeballs.
That was very cool.
I like that.
Yeah.
So he's out of commission now for the for the next few minutes because it takes a while
for him to reboot.
So he's just standing frozen like eyes rolled up.
Yeah.
As they're waiting.
And we're seeing face huggers dropping into the water. And at some point they leap out of the water and attack the trapped folks.
They're fighting with them. Very impressive that they, because in most of the movies,
you're just done as soon as they leap at you. They're actually fighting them off pretty well.
I think somebody has like a little cattle prod style thing and they're zapping them.
They're trapped in this room. They're fighting them.
The people in the hallway are screaming.
And then right when it seems like somebody's going to get one right in the
face, Andy finishes uploading and grabs it. And we're like, oh yeah,
we remember that these guys are super strong and are super capable.
So he's aiding in their escape. He opens the door for them.
They jam the door shut and the
frightening facehuggers are all trapped in there. And then it's revealed that when Andy got his
stuff updated, the ship's directive was uploaded into his brain. So now his prime directive isn't
to protect rain anymore. it's this unknown prime directive
of the ship that he says.
And now he's been very meek and kind of like walking around
like very unsure in his body.
Kind of glitching too, like he's like.
Yeah.
He's like an old model.
Yeah.
It's like an upgrade.
Yeah, and now he is very confident and it's like,
oh now he is in charge of the situation
and is like telling everyone very directly what to do.
And making calculations throughout these action sequences that are, you know,
he'll help everybody if it means that, you know,
most of them are going to escape.
He starts making some very ruthless calculations in who does he open a door for,
who does he help escape the room?
Yeah, it's a very marked change. Yeah.
And how long, how long have Andy and rain like been brother and sister or like, how long has he and Rain been brother and sister?
Or how long has he been like her brother?
Do you know what I mean?
It seems like since childhood.
It seems like since childhood.
Yeah, long, long time.
Over 10 years.
So this is immediately a heartbreak in a way
to Rain, probably.
Yeah, Andy's still there,
but he's also a new updated,
his name is still Andy,
there's still hints of it.
Yeah, I don't think like fully knows the extent yet.
It's like he got sort of like something got added on
as opposed to like replaced.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
But it is like, he gets like super alpha all of a sudden
where he's like, I know what to do.
He's still her buddy,
but work has now become more important than family.
Well, and I think in this moment when they're all,
they do manage to get out of the room and get everybody out,
but I think, does one facehugger get out
just in the nick of time and slams onto Navarro?
Yeah, in the lab.
They get through the lab and one has squeaked through
and attaches onto her and does the classic straggulation
around the neck and jams a thing down her throat
and it's really terrible.
Wait, so what exactly are they doing there?
They're just feasting off of your insides?
No, they're laying eggs.
Oh, they're laying eggs.
Yeah, like impregnating.
That's how they need a host to.
Wait, so are you still alive while they impregnate you?
Yes, and they keep you alive.
And then they leave you and then you're still.
Oh yeah. No, you're not still alive when it then they leave you, and then you're still. Oh yeah.
No, you're not still alive when it leaves you
because it breaks through your chest.
Chest bristers.
Yeah, but when the facehugger drops off,
you have this little, and it's funny because I was thinking
the gestation period is radically different
in all the films.
Right, yeah.
And that kind of threw me in resurrection
because multiple characters, and then in three
where Ripley knows that she has one inside her, they all are just like, well, it's probably not going to come out
yet. We probably have till the end of the movie. We're probably good. You're Ripley,
so you're not going to die. Yeah, you're not. You got at least a lack three. And then like
in Covenant, when it gets Billy Crudup, it seems to blow out of him in like two minutes,
like immediately comes out of
him. So, but that was a different, you know, David was messing with those in a different
way. So we don't know. We don't know. Yeah. But those are other movies. So then they decide
to reboot the half of a person that was lying there on the floor. And what do you know, it is a kind of shockingly mediocre CGI of Ian Holm who passed away in 2017.
Ian Holm played Ash in the original Alien and is one of my favorite actors, really loved him.
Apparently, we should say the family or the estate gave their blessing for this.
But this is a moment where you're like, oh, okay.
Now, right after the sequence that seemed very Fetty
and very independent, you're like, okay,
the long arm of the franchise has made its way
into this movie.
Yeah.
It also just looked so bad.
Even getting past the weirdness of that choice,
it just looked like shit.
That's the thing is I feel like what I was excited about
is Fede Alvarez is usually like really leans
into practical effects and like not much CG
and this was just so, so clearly, it just, yeah.
It looked bad, it looked bad.
Yeah. It was unnecessary.
And you would think that you could,
that there are so many solutions of either finding
and maybe they did do this, I don't know what the FX process was of finding an actor or doing an
animatronic and doing on top of it. Because this looked like in the Haunted Mansion where they have
the faces that are carved in, but it looks like they're sticking out to you. Like if there was a
weird like 2D, 3D effect to it that really threw me. So this character is called Rook,
which is more similar to Bishop in the second movie.
So, whoa.
Yeah, this is where we're getting like
too into the weeds of references,
where it's just like everything's a reference
and it's kind of clouding like.
The experience of just watching it.
It's yeah, it's like unnecessary. Yeah. The experience of just watching it. It's, yeah, it's like unnecessary.
Yeah.
And so they boot him up.
He says he was the science officer on this one,
and he immediately tells them, like,
your friend is fucked.
You should leave immediately.
Or you're all gonna die, yeah.
Yeah, you're all gonna die.
This thing has planted a seed inside of her,
and she's probably gonna die.
And they're like, well, can't we burn it off?
And he's like, no, no, no, it'll break her neck.
It'll rip her head off.
Like you can't do it.
You should just get out of here.
Obviously they do not take his advice.
I think Rain comes up with the idea to freeze it
rather than burn it.
And she has like a, they have like an ice gun type thing,
like spray, like freezes things.
And so they're like, yeah, maybe that'll work.
Because they say that there's no way for them to know
for sure if the alien has already planted its seed.
But they want to get it off of her.
Yeah, they're taking their odds that like,
maybe it hasn't, maybe it's all gonna be fine.
He's like 60, 40, she'll die.
60, 40 against your friend.
Yeah, that it's already happened.
Cause they freeze it and they're able to pry it off of her.
And that's the shot where you see.
And that's the other shot where it's like.
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
It's so long, Henley.
It's way longer than the shot in the teaser.
Ah!
It's like four, three feet.
And then it looked real.
Yeah.
Yes, I actually saw an interview with Eileen Wu
that plays Navarro and was talking about how much she gagged
and how disgusting the scene was to film.
And I actually have no idea how they did it.
Almost like that it would be easier to reverse it
and put it down as far as you could.
That was...
That's So gross.
No, thank you.
I do not need to know about a movie where.
In this movie they're like.
Things are planting seeds and women.
Do you ever see the Nathan's hot dog eating competition?
It's gonna be kinda like that.
Just a lot more slimy and a lot more horrible.
This is when I text him to bring me another drink.
Yeah. This is the time. You actual. And this is when I text him to bring me another drink. Yeah.
This is the time.
You actual...
And this is when the movie theater were like,
I wish we had that second drink.
Oh my God.
That would have been nice.
I just saw something go way too far.
I forgot that's what's happening with facehuggers.
I forgot.
I blocked it from my memory.
Yeah, they're like impregnating you and...
In this moment, I was like,
I'd rather get got by a full-grown alien than by the facehugger. But and... In this moment I was like, I'd rather get got by a full grown alien
than by the facehugger, but in a little bit I was like,
nevermind, I take it back.
They're really bad too, they're really bad too.
So the facehugger, can you just walk me through it
one more time?
So the facehugger attaches, then it impregnates you,
and then it falls off.
It stays there for a while, yeah.
So one thing that it does is it matches your breathing
and so it has these two little air sacs
on the side of your throat.
It wraps its tail around your throat
and it puts its little, I don't know, penis
in your throat.
We also would have accepted ovipositor for G-rated.
Wait, isn't it kind of like getting your wiki whacked?
It's kind of like getting your wiki whacked.
It's worse.
It's worse than getting your wiki whacked.
It's a little bit worse than getting your wiki whacked.
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Don't actually do that.
In Catalina Island, there is a tiki bar called Lua Larrys
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It's really bad.
It's really bad.
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Okay. So she's free and she's conscious. And so her boyfriend is like, let's get back to the ship.
And he's like, no, you can't go back to the ship. They flee. Andy chases them. They get back onto
the ship and shut the door in Andy's face. Oh, because Andy is now like of the mindset that Navarro has to die.
It's a risk.
Yeah, she's a risk.
It's for the protection of everybody.
It's a petroleum problem.
Yeah, she's got to go.
And of course, Reign and Tyler are like, no, she's our friend and we've got to save her.
And obviously, she's like, nothing bad's going to happen her. And obviously she's like, nothing bad's gonna happen.
We just got it all, like everything's gonna be fine.
So they get on the ship with Kay and they're like,
Andy went crazy, he's trying to kill people.
Like this is nuts, we need to like, yeah.
Bjorn and Navarro make it back on the ship with Kay,
but they lock the doors barring out Andy,
Rain and Tyler because Andy's trying to kill Navarro.
So now the group is split in half.
Andy, Rain, and Tyler are still on Romulus,
and Kay, Navarro, and Bjorn are on their original ship.
And oh, it's also been revealed before Rain left
to go help them in the frozen facehugger room,
when she's like, why is he being such a jerk to Andy? Because he's been bullying him the
whole time. They're like, oh, his parents were in a mine collapse, and the synthetic in charge
decided to seal them off and kill them in the mine, rather than save them. And she's like,
that's impossible. Synthetics aren't allowed to harm a human.
And she goes, well, that saved 10 humans and killed five humans.
So Andy has done the two train tracks with the people that meme
and is able to make that calculation, which, you know, foreshadows
that Andy's going to be doing that with the survivors on this ship now.
So Kay and Bjorn and Navarro are on their original ship
and Navarro starts to not feel so well
and is kind of like coughing and gagging.
And does she still have the wand?
Does the wand come out here?
Yeah.
X-ray.
There's a little thing where she pulls the wand
and she sees an entity in her chest cavity.
Real shame we didn't remember that that wand existed
about five minutes ago.
Yeah, we just do a quick check.
Yeah, oh my god, that's true.
That's really true.
Genuine plot, all, well, it's all moving so fast.
Well, you wouldn't remember, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
So there is a chest burster,ster gout of gore and blood squirting
all over the cockpit.
They really go for it.
Joel and I just rewatched Alien recently.
And Joel had then continued to watch the other ones
while I would go to sleep.
But the 1979 version, I mean, it's a crazy gnarly scene.
It's so surprising that it pops out.
But this one, it took a couple trots. Like it goes like, poof. And because it's a crazy gnarly scene. It's so surprising that it pops out. But this one, it took a couple trots.
It goes like, poof, and because it's lit.
And it went through her rib cage,
and it really cracks.
What is her state?
Oh, bad, bad. She's dying.
Bad, very bad.
She's screaming, but she's holding this thing.
Oh, I even think she says right before it pops out,
don't let me die. She's really scared and really in pain.
It's awful.
But yeah, you hear it cracking the bones as it's like,
boom, boom, boom, and then bursts out.
And I gotta say, Kay, this actress, Isabella Merced,
incredible scream as this chest-burster pops out.
She goes.
And then immediately dead.
No, no, I mean, Navarro's for sure dead, but Kay.
Navarro's totally dead.
Kay is still alive.
Oh, I see, I see.
And the chest burster looks like,
I loved how they did a little thing where it kind of like
flops over onto her chest once it gets out.
It's like, woo, that was a lot of work getting out of her rib cage for a second.
It doesn't have a top hat and dance though.
No.
Sadly no.
But it does have cute little teeth.
It's the WB frog.
What a twist.
But somewhere in the chaos of this,
I think Navarro's foot hits essentially the gas
pedal of the spaceship, sending it flying around the Remus
Romulus station and eventually crashing into the Romulus
Bay. And actually, I think they've been in the Remus half before this, but now they know
they need to go to Romulus. Oh, you're right. Yep. To get their ship back so that they can get home and then this impact ups the stakes
by causing a acceleration towards the rings.
And so the impact is now imminent.
And I think it's like 47 minutes now, right?
It's just like much sooner.
Is there like a voice going, 47 minutes?
Yes, mother.
You better believe there is.
Yeah, I do love, I really, really love when a movie,
particularly an action movie,
gives you an actual minute countdown to an event
that is going to be the minutes of the movie.
It's like a thing that I absolutely.
And this movie does it.
This movie does it.
Yes, that's what I mean.
When this happened, I was like, fuck, yes,
I love this shit.
This is another reason, Emily,
why you need to download 24 and binge watch it immediately
because it's the perfect.
They do that pretty well.
Perfect series for you.
Obviously my very favorite one is in
Mission Impossible Fallout,
and they start the 10 minute clock on getting the
explosive back from Henry Cavill.
Oh my God, you're gonna love 24.
God, she's gonna love 24.
God, she's gonna love it.
It's so fucking good to be like,
this is actually gonna take the amount of time
they told us it's gonna take.
I don't know, I really like it.
It is fun, I like that as well.
Bloop, bloop, I love that sound effect.
They really, they really did that sound effect.
Right, that's my next show.
So then Kay is knocked unconscious during this crash.
And when she comes to, Bjorn is nowhere to be found.
The chest bracer is nowhere to be found.
She wanders off into some part of the ship and.
So scared too.
Imagine how scared you would be.
And like sad.
Yes. So many things at once. How pregnant is she? How pregnant is she? Very newly pregnant. Imagine how scared you would be. And like sad.
Yes.
So many things at once.
How pregnant is she?
How pregnant is she, do we think?
Very newly pregnant.
We're not, I don't, she's not showing.
We're not gonna see a fetus.
She's not showing.
Calling out of her.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then Bjorn comes across a new thing for the franchise
because whenever a chest burster has run off in the past,
we don't see the
process of it blowing up to be 10 feet tall or whatever.
You just see it's like shedding its skin.
Yeah, that wonderful shed skin that Harry Dean Stanton finds in the first movie, which
I always loved.
And he comes across this disgusting pod in like the roof of this this hallway section. And like a true space genius,
he gets really, really close to it with his face.
Got inspected.
What's this thing's deal?
Well, he has a like that like a cattle prod. Yes.
Oh, that's what he does. That's right.
Yeah. He sticks the prod in.
It's like he and Kay like sort of make eye contact and he tells her like and like points and this is the moment where we're like
Did they fuck and I guess the answer is yes. Yeah
And but so he's like I'm gonna get this thing and he points to it. Yeah, he sticks his cattle prod into the sorry
slit
It's pretty vaginal
It's pretty vaginal. It's pretty vaginal.
Overtly vaginal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Then it looks like he feels like he's probably killed
whatever is in there.
And then as he gets close to it,
there is a little like stinger sticking out through the slit
and it starts to, does it hit him first?
Does it shoot out first? It's like a, it's like a little defense, like,
ah, and goes right into his eye.
Stabs him in the eye.
He falls on the ground, but unfortunately right beneath it.
And this was another good moment in this movie,
is we've never really seen a person get acid dripped on them
in this series before.
And he's underneath it just having blobs of acid
like burn his face.
He sticks his hand up and the acid melts away everything
but the bones in his fingers.
They're like, that was a good,
that got a round of applause from everybody.
This is when I was like, okay, we're gonna,
from here on out, it's gonna ramp up.
And it does to an extent, but.
I mean, could've gone harder.
Could've gone harder.
Yeah, could've gone harder.
So.
I'm cheating a little bit, I'm making sure
I'm not missing anything.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I also am.
Is that allowed, is that cheating?
No, no, you can cheat.
You bounced me from the podcast.
We love cheating here.
No Googling.
No, we love cheating here, wherever you have to do it.
Oh my God, I had a dream last night I was taking a test.
Oh no.
Oh, I have that dream all the time.
Me too, and I haven't, I've never gone to the class once.
I always am taking the final test
and I've never been one time.
And I'm like, fuck, I should have gone to class.
Wow.
See, I mean, you were there
and you had already finished the test
and you were like, oh, that test was so easy.
But I had started it way, way late.
This is a good dream for me.
I had like 20 minutes left for like a two hour essay test.
And you're like, it's totally easy.
And I was like, I'm not gonna have time.
And I don't know why we were able to talk to each other
while I was taking the test, but anyway.
Told you guys how I get,
I have stress dreams where I can't find my locker.
And I in real life can't remember where my locker is
in high school and it haunts me.
Oh, where was it?
Where was it?
Every hallway looks the same. Do you remember your combination? Nope, not's me. Oh, that's me. Where was it? Where was it? Every hallway looks the same.
Do you remember your combination?
Nope, not even close.
Not even close.
This is kind of alien themed.
Whenever we'd have assemblies in high school,
or mostly middle school,
my friend would go down to the outdoor lockers
in our high school, everybody's Jansport backpacks were,
and take all the stuff out of each of them and flip them inside out in our high school, everybody's Jansport backpacks were,
and take all the stuff out of each of them and flip them inside out so they just looked like a black pod.
And so everybody would come back from the assembly and it was just a pile of identical black pods.
That's very funny. That's a really good idea.
That's a good prank. It's not malicious. It's just kind of funny and inconvenient. And it also takes a lot of time.
And I appreciate when a prank takes effort.
That's cute things.
Yeah. Got to put in the effort.
So back with Rain and Tyler, they go through a section. They realized that they're going to have to get to the bay.
They have to pass through the section where all of the facehuggers are.
But they've been told that the facehugger is attracted
to sound and to your body heat.
Yeah, it can't actually see you.
So Rain is like, well, what if we turned up
the temperature in this part of the ship to body temperature?
And then we could just very quietly sneak through
past the dozens and dozens of reanimated facehuggers. And Andy basically goes, yeah, it's a good idea.
And they do that. They're sneaking through the hallway.
Andy also says a thing, which I really loved, which he's like,
what you can't do is get scared. Don't get goosebumps.
Don't let your heart rate go up because that will change your body temperature
and then they'll be able, like,
goosebumps are your body trying to cool you down
or something, which I thought was really interesting.
Imagine being in the scariest situation possible,
being like, but just don't get scared.
I just feel like-
Just to control your body completely.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I was gonna say, like,
those things are completely involuntary for me personally.
Yeah.
So-
No, 100% for everyone.
Yeah.
It's not like I'm like, goosebumps now.
I bet there's some people out there
that are in control of those things,
but not most people.
There's a good NPR episode recently
with a guy who went undercover
in some white supremacist organizations
and actually foiled an assassination.
And he was saying that he learned
how to slow his heart rate down.
I forget, by remembering in great detail
a Guns N' Roses song.
So he'd be driving in a car with these terrifying murderers
and he'd just be thinking about Guns N' Roses
while they were driving around.
Wow.
And that's like beating lie detector tests and stuff too,
isn't it?
Yeah.
It's also why Tiger Woods is so good at golf.
That's right.
And lying.
Great golfer.
And lying. And lying. Great golfer. And lying.
Lying?
Yeah.
True, true.
And it comes in handy if you're a sex addict.
That is so interesting.
But so yeah, meanwhile, Kay is like trying to figure out, she's just...
She's, yeah, watched two people die.
Desperately searching for anybody.
And so she's climbing through part of the Romulus half of the ship as Tyler and Rain
are moving their way towards her.
They're moving their way towards her. They're moving their way towards each other, but K is in this area
where now I think the chest burster has already fully transformed into a xenomorph. Right?
Yeah. Yeah.
And she's being pursued.
Yeah.
Yeah. And they get down to a place where they can see her through, oh, first, because of the
crackling noise on the headset, the facehuggers
start to go towards them and Andy just goes, run, run, run, run, run. They get through
another door and then Andy basically is going to close the door on her ex boyfriend and
she pulls him through and she's like, what the fuck? Like you almost closed the door
on him and he was like, then we all would have died, or something like that.
He says like, but I didn't.
Yeah, oh yeah.
He's like, I timed it out with perfect precision.
He's like, it's fine.
So what are you being such a huge bitch about?
But yeah, this is a different Andy.
His dad jokes get so mean and inappropriate now.
It's a very different kind of dad.
Can you guys remind me a xenomorph?
Like, exactly what's happening with a xenomorph?
What's going on?
That's the full grown alien.
That's the big, big, big, big scary boy.
Big, long hot dog head.
Yeah.
Silver teeth.
Metal teeth.
Yeah.
The double mouth that goes,
kaaah, shoots out.
That's a tail with like a spike that it can hook ya.
Yeah. I think one of the funny things It's a tail with a spike that it can hook you.
I think one of the funny things that they do kind of fix in this movie is that over
the successive alien movies, in the first one you kind of don't even see how it murders
people which is super scary.
You know that the mouth comes out but it's done so well that you don't get a full on
shot of how it actually murders and does these things with people.
And then in Aliens, it's more guns and explosions and stuff.
In Three and particularly in Resurrection, there was a lot too much for my taste of the
alien being like, like whacking people, a little too much hand-to-hand combat, which
took a lot of the...
Why would it use hand to hand combat?
And it's very clumsy too.
Oh, and there's a lot of it going like, ah,
like crushing people's heads.
You're like, come on, you got the double mouth.
You don't need to use your hands.
Come on.
Four is the one directed by Jean-Pierre Junet, right?
Yes. Yeah.
I remember, I've only seen it one time,
but I remember it was like around the time
that I had seen Amelie in Delicatessen.
And it's so, there are so many trademarks
of Jean-Pierre Junet in Alien Resurrection
where it's just like fall, it's like so cutesy.
Like, it's like a really cutesy alien.
That really made me laugh.
And then fighting being like, oh.
That baby alien, and then at the end of the movie, it gets killed
in such a horrible way.
And you're like, am I supposed to feel bad for this thing?
But it was so cute and precious.
Very confusing.
Very interesting.
So this alien doesn't do any of that silly stuff.
But as they get to the door where
they can see through the window, and they
see Kay in the loading bay window and they see K in the
Loading bay and they see the alien kind of stalking her they realize the alien is trying to bait them into opening the door so that it could get to them and
Andy realizes this and they need Andy to open the door and she's sitting there right by the door and
Andy is like no
I won't do it then the creature will get in here with us. And then that creature starts coming down.
It's a pretty emotionally tough scene
where she's like begging for her life
and her friend is like, no, no, no, no.
Like, let her through, let her through.
And then all of a sudden that tail goes,
and stabs her and sprays blood all over the window
and then sucks her away to do what it's going to do with her. So everyone
is very upset.
Haley, thank you for making that. That was ripping off a bandaid. Sammy would not have
done that. Sammy would have made me feel...
Sweet, sweet Henley. That's not as bad as it gets.
You have no idea.
I'm going to let you guys take the lead on that.
Thank you, Hailey. What you're thinking about.
Yeah.
I will say in this moment,
Rain slaps Andy.
Like she is so upset by his refusal to help Kay.
And it's like the first moment of her being like fully angry
at this updated version of Andy.
And I felt sad.
Yeah, me too.
And well, and she asks him, she says,
Andy, what is your prime director?
Cause she realizes it has been changed.
And he tells her it's to do what's best for the company.
Yeah.
Which is a really brutal, really brutal thing to hear.
Elon Musk in the theater going, yes!
Yes!
My hero!
My hero!
Yes.
The Jeffrey Bezos hologram in my house
with the vaccine is like.
Whup, whup, whup, whup, whup.
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
Ah!
So they make their way back to the lab
to meet up with Ian Holm again, the Rook.
CGI.
And this was a kind of like, this was very interesting because he basically goes, so
you remember the goo from Prometheus?
It's a special elixir that cures any disease because as your parents were killed by the
black lung on this planet, humans are really terrible at space colonization and aren't really good for space travel.
I did like that point because it's very true.
Right.
Speaking of Elon Musk, you're like,
Mars, we just are not very good at traveling long distances across space.
We're not really biologically supposed to do it,
and our bodies get really fucked up when we're out there.
We're from Earth.
We're from Earth.
We're Earth people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Earth is also fucking awesome.
Let's figure out a way to live on Earth.
It's so nice.
Earth is really great.
It's so nice.
It's so much better than Mars, you guys.
It's a lot better.
There's the beach, there's City Walk.
There's the loo.
That's the Universal City Walk.
Get seated at the Universal City Walk Prime.
And on the balcony of the Prime Theater,
you can have drinks.
Dip and dots.
Dip and dots. I wanna see why. Harry Potter world. You drinks. Dip and dots. Dip and dots.
I wanna see why.
Harry Potter world.
You can watch baseball and eat a dip and dot.
You can watch, last week I watched Jane's addiction
while eating chicken fingers in the YouTube theater.
It doesn't get better.
Does it get any better than that?
They don't have that on Mars.
No, they don't have that on Mars.
They don't have that on Mars, yeah.
So he explains that the lab on the ship, that Romulus and the Remus, was developing this goo.
And I wonder whether, because I thought that Ridley Scott was leaving that weapon as a more mysterious thing and wasn't really going to lay it out so quickly.
Well, I guess the origins are still a mystery, but they were trying to use the black goo that is the constitutes these creatures to create
this elixir that they were gonna call Prometheus fire.
I gotta say all of this like extra lore around
like world building reminds me of the matrix sequels.
Yes, it's never gets better when you add more of that in.
Yeah, and the John Wick sequels.
It's just like, A, I don't get it.
And B, I'm like, just bored.
I'm just kind of bored.
I'm like not motivated to get it.
Because you care about the characters.
Yeah.
You care about the characters,
and if it affects the characters, you care,
but if it doesn't, then you're like, what's happening?
And there's truly nothing scarier,
and in a way, there's still,
even with all these movies
that put a backstory to all
these things, the eeriness of the space jockey in the first movie of like, even more than the alien,
there's that like, what was that? Like, what happened here? Like, was that a different alien
or something fused? There's nothing better than that mystery. And of course, the way that giant
franchises are now is you're gonna have to really explain every aspect of it, no matter how much the audience may or may not want that.
So which we don't. Yeah. Which we don't.
I will say. So they also find some guns, which are the guns from aliens.
He's like the colonial Marines use these when they were in the 80s, the James Cameron one.
But these are spray painted white.
And they also have like a, people were criticizing this online saying that it was too much of
a fan service to video game people because they, he's showing her how to use the gun,
how it has aim assist.
But I thought it would say, of course, a reference to that great scene with Michael
Bean and Sigourney, where she's unfamiliar with guns and he's kind of showing her how
the gun work.
Right.
I didn't mind that.
Like that that was a reference and an echo of something that I thought was appropriate
and like nice in that situation.
And good for those characters.
But then Andy, the ultimate buzzkill is like, you know, you can't shoot those, right?
We're on the bottom floor. We're in parking three in this space station. characters. But then Andy, the ultimate buzzkill is like, you know, you can't shoot those right?
We're on the bottom floor. We're in parking three in this space station. And if you shoot the gun,
it's going to blow a hole in the outer shell of the ship and they have acid blood and they have acid blood.
Yeah, that will burn through. So I didn't I didn't quite understand this though.
And it was funny to think of it in comparison to that great
scene in the first alien where they're trying to figure out how to kill it and they're like would fire kill it ash and he's like i suppose animals retreat from fire which is a great little thing
but in this one they're like you know what i bet if we point a gun at it it'll be scared and it
won't attack because it doesn't want to be shot so So I was a little confused with how that they trusted
that but I guess they didn't have any other choice. Yeah true. Yeah. They don't have a lot of options.
Yeah so they are going to make their way to try and find K I believe. Oh no they're just trying
to get to the to the other side of the docking bay. They open up a car door and the whole car door has been cocoons
in the classic alien style.
Do they have the little goo vials at this point?
Does Rook tell them they are only gonna be able
to get off the ship now if they take this goo stuff
with them so that they can...
Rook has an ulterior motive where he just wants this goo with them.
Yeah, Rook just wants the goo.
Rook wants the goo.
Give me my goo.
To continue the research on it.
He's basically like the company's motive
is to like continue research on this goo.
And so you won't be able to leave the ship.
The system won't let you leave
unless you have the goo with you.
And he's like saying they're perfect specimens
and if we've figured out how to blend our DNA with theirs
and like become perfect terraformers
and they show a little video of a rat.
Of a rat.
Ah ha, yeah, I forgot my favorite part.
That dies and then they inject it with the goo
and it rebuilds its cells and it's this miraculous thing.
I feel like they smooshed the rat like Looney Tunes style.
Oh yeah, they smooshed it with like an anvil.
They like smooshed it.
Yeah.
It was flat.
Yeah.
And then they give it the goo and it goes like
and it like becomes a rat again and it's like,
they're like, you know, see the goo is awesome.
The goo is awesome.
Nothing wrong with that.
The goo is life. And then when they leave the room I
thought I had figured out the entire direction of the rest of this movie
when they pan over to I guess what that rat was and it's this monstrous like
possum looking thing that's like clearly like grown too fast and its eyeballs
popped out it looks like a thing a creature from The Thing now where it's like, it's
kind of has some rat fur and parts but it's another nasty big awful thing
entirely but yeah Ash didn't show them that. No he didn't. Not Ash, sorry Rook,
whatever you get it. He's not very forthcoming so then they go to the next room armed with all this information and their guns
and they see that it's a horrible alien tunnel and they go,
are you think we should go another direction? They're like, yeah,
we should go another direction. But then did they hear something down in the,
in the car door?
Tyler hears a moan that he recognizes as his sister Kay,
and sure enough, she is cocooned in the walls
like we have seen in previous movies.
This is when I was like, oh, just kidding,
this is the worst way to go first.
Yeah.
And so they.
I liked when they're going down there,
that was a nice moment of like the great, don't
go in that room.
Like, stop.
Like, don't.
This isn't gonna be good.
This is really bad.
You want to tell them, come back, leave, or shoot yourself.
Like, anything is better than going down that, like that corridor.
So they go down the corridor.
They actually get her out of the cocooning and then the aliens hear them, I suppose, right?
That's when they start to attract the aliens.
Some of them are hatching from the, sorry, slits.
No!
Yeah.
There starts to be some scrabbling down the walls.
And so there's kind of a lot of them.
This is probably a good moment to remind you guys about my childhood fear.
What was your childhood fear?
Aliens?
Slips?
I read a book in the library when I was a small child about giant spiders taking over the world.
I'm sure I've mentioned this before.
Yes, you have.
And it's from the point of view of a young girl whose father has left to fight the giant spiders taking over the world. I'm sure I've mentioned this before. Yes, you have. And it's from the point of view of a young girl
whose father has left to fight the giant spiders
and has never come back.
And she's at home alone with her mom and her brother.
And they just are locked inside
because the giant spiders have taken over the world.
Her dad's probably dead.
And it ends with her waking up to a spider building a nest on her bed,
about to eat her. And I guarantee this book was geared towards children. I was like in second
grade when I read it. And I remember being like, I'll never be the same.
Holy shit.
That's not right. I was like, I remember reading it and being like,
oh, on the core level.
Yeah, and I slept in my parents' room for so long.
And also I remember like-
You think Silas just got his hands on that book?
Oh my God, I'm gonna protect him with my life
before he reads that book.
Yeah, never let him read that book.
Never.
But I remember like my other kids in my class
being scared of humans murdering them
and I remember being like, you don't even fucking know.
I would welcome a man.
I would welcome him.
I will kick the shit out of him.
I will take him down.
You do not know what it means
to be scared of giant spiders. And anyway, so that's what this movie. You would not like what it means to be scared of giant spiders.
And anyway, so that's what this movie.
You would not like these cocoons.
That's what this movie's bringing up for me.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Please proceed.
Did you like the third Lord of the Rings?
Did that spider stuff?
Well, also there's a Harry Potter whole thing
with fucking huge spiders.
Yeah, Harry Potter whole thing with giant spiders.
It comes up more than you would think.
And spiders, bless them.
They are killing a lot of bugs we don't want around us,
like mosquitoes.
They're geniuses.
They're cleaning beautiful webs.
We also don't want them around us.
But I wouldn't want them eating me, sucking my guts out,
putting me in a cocoon.
We don't want that.
We don't want that.
Yeah. OK. That's't want that. Yeah. Fair enough. We don't want that. Yeah.
OK.
That's all I have to say.
You guys keep talking about this movie.
So the aliens attack them in the corridor.
And I believe this is when the gravity disengagement thing
begins to happen again.
Not yet.
First, I think this is the moment where
alien is about to come stab Reign.
Yep.
And Tyler sees it and jumps in between
and he gets stabbed instead.
Pulled up into the top of the cocoon tunnel
by this alien who then I think this alien just like
little mouth comes out of the big mouth
and just fucking gets him right on the spot.
Like I don't think he gets cocooned.
I think he just gets killed, which under the circumstances
is the best death so far, I think.
Like that one was, he got to feel like a hero
and then good and quick death.
But yeah, he is, he gets got.
So now it's just Rain, Kay, Andy.
But Andy still has this directive
that is opposed to Kay and Rain's plan
and so we're not really trusting him.
And something happens here where,
what happens where Andy gets like,
something is like, he's like glitching.
Oh, I think he gets like hit by the alien or something.
The white stuff is coming out of his face.
Like, yeah.
The alien like swipes at him and he's like bleeding
and yeah, it's not good.
And just kind of like glitching and they leave him there.
And at this point, then the gravity disengages,
which Rain believes like, oh, now I can shoot
them because the goo.
Still not yet.
Still not yet.
Still not yet.
Still not yet.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Maybe this is my Wednesday night.
Oh, yes.
This could have been the bathroom part.
So Andy is like glitching and Kay and Rain are trying to run back to the ship so that
they can escape.
And as they're running, Rain has a moment of guilt, I guess.
And like, I can't, I can't leave Andy here.
And so she sends Kay by herself.
She's like, you go, I'll meet you there.
Here's the goo.
Here you go.
See you in five.
I'm gonna go grab Andy.
Oh, they had tried when they pulled Kay
out of the cocoon, Tyler and Rain.
Tyler wanted to inject Kay with the goo.
And Rain is like, I don't trust that stuff.
If we get her into a cryopod and put her into cryo sleep,
she'll be able to survive,
so we just need to get her back to the ship.
So that's why she sends Kay back to the ship with the goo,
but is like, don't use it, just go and get in a cryopod,
I will meet you there.
And yeah, Rain goes back for Andy.
Right.
And this is the point where we see Kay disobey orders
and shoot herself.
I think because Rook is like tying into their video stream
or whatever on their ship and he's like,
the goo is so good, you're gonna love that goo,
you should use the goo.
She's also like in so much pain.
I think she thinks it more like, and you know, she's pregnant and she's like,
you know, very aware of the life of her child.
And so she, sorry, injects herself with the goo, you know,
and we don't, we see her get back to the ship,
but we don't see what else happens there.
But Rain goes back for Andy.
Yeah.
And then when she gets to him,
she removes the chip from his neck
and we get the good old Andy back.
She had tried to do it before, but he wouldn't let her,
but he's like dying now.
And she tells him, you dying wouldn't be what's best
for the company.
So let me, please let me get this out and help you.
And so she, yeah, so she reboots him to try to get him
back and takes the old bad Andy out.
So she's good Andy now.
So now does the gravity thing,
when does the gravity thing happen?
You nailed it, you're like, it fucking nailed it.
The gravity goes away and everything is floating.
And she's like, oh nice, I can use my gun now.
So there is a fun action sequence of her
flowing through them.
This is a great part.
There, she's shooting them and there starts to be
the swirl of like acid blood moving with the,
I guess the motion of the rotation of the ship.
And she has to fly through the acid without it burning her.
Her and Andy both like flow through.
They're floating through the goo.
They get to this giant like elevator shaft.
She also wastes a bunch of aliens and it's awesome.
Yeah.
They're shooting them.
They're going, eh, and all that stuff.
And then they start to climb up the shaft to get to the docking bay where the
original ship is, and as they're climbing up this ladder,
the gravity comes back on,
and she starts to get sucked down
towards some aliens in the shaft.
And I can't remember the exact,
it's a really well-done sequence here,
so you're gonna have to help me out
with what actually happens when she does this.
Because it leads up to, she uses the reversal of gravity to like get by the the aliens that
are reaching out and grabbing for her, but then she falls all the way down to the bottom
of the shaft.
And then you think that she's done for her.
And Andy leaps down there and goes, get away from her.
You bitch.
And there you go. Oh, that was the line that-
Big groan, big groan.
In the future, that is a quote from Aliens,
which again-
Hasn't happened yet.
Is 37 years in the future from this movie.
So it's a little silly.
Yeah, so I think they could have found a line
similar to that or something that referenced it, but the fact
that it's exactly that. I remember in the aliens commentary, James Cameron saying when they went to
the first industry screening for aliens, the whole crowd screened was like, yeah, once you said that,
and he's like, that's when we knew we had a hit. You're like, oh, this is a little different than
that. Not the same moment, yeah.
So he rescues her, right? They get back onto the ship, onto the main ship.
And it's, you know, in a reference to the first movie,
everybody starts stripping down in their underwear
and, you know, no.
I always found that odd in the,
that they had that long sequence of her
just like undressing in the first movie before she gets into the pod.
There's also a moment in the elevator shaft thing
where I feel like she sees one of the aliens
and she goes, Jesus Christ.
And in watching Prometheus,
Charlize Theron says it exactly the same way.
So it's just another one of those things.
It's just a line lift from a different movie.
That is wild.
That was exactly the same way she says it.
I love imagining that the way that happened was over the course of 18 months,
and occasionally the writer would email the studio exec an idea.
I just had a thought. And the studio exec would be waking up and they would look at their laptop. And they'd be hung over and
they'd say, oh, oh, what's this? They'd look at it. What a picture you've painted.
And they'd go, oh, that's from another movie. It's from another hell.
And they go, oh, that's from another movie. It's from another alien.
Keep it in, keep it in, keep it in.
Keep it in.
They missed one of the most famous ones, though,
unless I missed it.
Because it's too obvious, Haley.
It's too obvious.
Remember when in Aliens, they go,
we are leaving in that really recognizable way.
And then they do it again in Prometheus,
but they didn't do it in this one.
That I would have been down with
because that one you gotta have that said in every movie.
Because they always are leaving.
They've got to leave.
You would have had to have a less hungover studio exec.
Slightly less.
To green light.
Slightly less.
Where are we with Ring Impact?
It's imminent. It's so close. There is a ticking clock. Where are we with ring impact?
It's imminent.
It's so close.
There is a ticking clock aspect of this where it's like, oh my God, we're so close to those
rings.
We got to get out of here.
And so they make it back to their original ship and are trying to get themselves
in those cryo pods to launch or whatever.
And then a little alarm starts going off on Kay's pod.
Also, wait, okay, we've seen her get seduced
by Rook's whisperings being like,
the goo, the goo, you should do the goo.
And we saw her inject herself with the goo.
She fell for it.
Okay, there's goo inside of her.
There's goo inside of her.
And then she put herself into the cryopod, I think.
And so we're all thinking we're in good shape,
but then there's some blinking red light alarm in Kay's pod.
Something is not right.
Vital is unsustainable or something.
And so rain opens that.
And I believe that this sequence I should turn over to you,
I believe this should be your wheelhouse
because of the specific apartment.
At least strap in maybe.
Hey, I'm ready, wait no, hold on.
I'm just have a little bit of this
and then I'll take a sip.
This is it.
We've arrived.
We've arrived.
They open up that little crack.
Like I'm really hearing, really hearing the gulps.
So rain opens the drawer.
Does she put Andy away first?
Yeah.
Andy's in the front of the ship.
He sort of like gets like shut down because.
Okay, so it's just rain now.
Just rain in the pod room, yeah.
And she opens the store and Kay is screaming,
convulsing in pain.
Deeply pregnant also.
Hugely pregnant.
Now like a big belly and moving in a way
that something is clearly inside of it,
trying to get out in a way that something is clearly inside of it, trying to get out
in a chest bursary type way.
But it doesn't burst out of her chest.
But it doesn't.
It does it the old fashioned way.
You love to hear it.
Vaginal birth to this nasty fucking egg pod.
I feel like there's a similar like bone crunching
and like blood is spurting out of it.
Like it's like really violent and gnarly.
Yeah, like.
It's pretty gnarly, yep.
And she's screaming and yeah,
then this nasty gooey pod comes out
and I think it does have an umbilical cord
because Kay screams like, get it away from me.
And Rain has to break, she like tears the umbilical cord.
Wait, so, okay, so it bursts through her vagina.
It burst through her vagina, yeah, yes.
How long does it take?
I mean, it's not too long, but I mean-
It's fast. 30 seconds.
You know, it is too long.
You know what?
That is so much better than normal birth.
She's got it easy.
30 seconds, I would kill for 30 seconds.
Well, I don't think you're gonna like
what happens next.
I'm trying to take the positive.
Yeah, you're looking for the silver lining
and I appreciate that.
I'm always looking for the silver lining.
Oh, so it's not so bad.
30 seconds, that's easy.
And like, actually this is good.
This is all good.
And then it what, like scrambles, it skitters away.
Yeah.
They lose eyes on it,
but we know that it's not gonna be good.
Oh, oh, no, wait, no.
Rain grabs it as it's still in the little egg sack first.
And she's, I think, running to try to eject it into space.
But before she can, it starts hatching.
And it has the acid blood embryo fluid thing.
So she drops it.
And it sinks.
Acid placenta.
So it sinks through the ground.
And she loses sight of it.
And it goes into this sand chamber?
Sand chamber that's like a some sort of bay.
It's the coal chambers where they shovel the coal
into the engine to make the spaceship go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously.
Which must be a Titanic reference.
It must be.
Now that I'm here for.
Yeah.
Oh my God, I can't focus because Mabel's so cute.
She won't leave me alone.
Mabel's like this also, by the way, for our first five episodes that we did, Mabel was
constantly like this the whole time.
Yeah, on everyone's laps.
I don't know where she just came.
She just realized I was out here.
She probably woke up from a nap as well.
I get it, Mabel.
It's my chin.
Yeah, but Kay is also against the back wall now,
writhing in pain, and Andy goes down to go after
this nasty pod that sank into the sand chamber.
Rain does, Andy's not part of the scene.
Oh, sorry, Rain, sorry Rain.
But we see Kay alone now in this pod room,
and she is in a lot of pain,
and we see her reach down into her top over her breast,
and she pulls her hand back,
and it's covered in a black goo.
And this is when I went, oh my fucking God,
oh my God, oh my God, I can't believe
they're about to do this. Oh my God.
They don't do it yet, but you know what they're gonna do.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't actually totally understand
the mechanics of this chamber,
but I think Rain is trying to lure this.
Oh no, first she sees as it hatches,
it has a human-y baby face,
and she has a moment of being like,
maybe this is a sweet little human baby still.
And so she's looking for it,
and then as she gets down to this bottom level of the ship,
we see a reveal shot of what this baby now looks like,
which is a very Javier Boutette coated alien human hybrid
crouched like a spider.
You know what it was kind of reminding me of with Splice?
What's her name?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Splice.
Oh yeah.
I can't remember. That heartwarming film.
Yeah, kind of, but like nastier than Splice.
Kind of like Splice mixed with-
That does not make me feel better.
Dren.
Mixed with Mama, mixed with-
Well, Mama's half-year botet.
I know.
But I'm talking about Mama specifically.
Sure, sure, sure.
When this thing is revealed though,
like where it is on the gangway or whatever,
that got the best reaction in the theater of anything.
Everyone was like, oh no.
Yeah, people were upset.
Yeah, it was upsetting.
It was upsetting.
And I don't know, there's, it like,
I can't remember really the specifics here.
It's fighting with Rain.
It gets back to Kay.
And now it's in, I think it knocks Rain out momentarily
or something.
It feels like it keeps growing too,
and its head is gonna like get longer
and start like doing like-
It looks kind of like David Dessmouchen.
I feel like-
At CBS with this kid on a leash.
Yeah, who I have seen at CBS with his child on a leash.
But his face was David Dessmouchen-esque to me.
Was, okay, were they attached to Kay as their like mother like does it like want and love Kay
like a mother yeah no but what it does need is that goo and so okay it wants and loves the goo
it comes back into the room with Kay and it comes over and like lurks over her and she's like no
please not like crying because like no no no. And then it opens its mouth
and it has another little tiny mouth inside of its mouth.
And that little tiny mouth comes out
and it lowers itself over her and they cut away.
And I was like, okay, could have gone harder.
I truly was like, if you're gonna,
if you are going to tell us,
I didn't wanna see it, but I wanted them to do it.
I was like, if you were gonna tell us
that a big nasty alien man is breastfeeding
off a human woman and you're not gonna show it.
Okay.
What we do see is, you know, Rain comes to you, I guess,
and makes it back into that room,
and we see from behind the man alien thing
lowering Kay's body.
It looks like it was just sucking her blood, basically,
and killing her, but again, that's not what it was doing.
And I don't appreciate how great they let that be.
Right, right, right, right, you gotta commit.
You gotta commit!
Let's commit.
But Kay is dead, she has been killed.
Sucked dry.
Absolutely sucked dry.
Which like, I hate to say, but like, I'm glad.
Oh, she should, yeah, you don't.
Well, of course, of course.
Not that I'm glad that she's dead,
but I think it is a fun decision to,
like as she's introduced, it's like, I'm pregnant. It like gives you such a like, well, she's dead, but I think it is a fun decision to like, as she's introduced us, like I'm pregnant.
It like gives you such a like,
well, she's gonna survive obviously.
And I know she's going to birth
the nastiest fucking hellish thing.
I always like when they're like,
no, the thing you think is like a protection card.
No, Sammy, I have to disagree with that.
I think it's in horror movies, less so, yes, but.
You will never think the woman who's pregnant
is gonna survive.
You think she'll be the focal point of horror.
I guess maybe it's like a training
from other types of movies where I'm like,
well, nobody would hire a pregnant woman.
No, everyone hurts a pregnant woman.
That's like the key to understanding reality.
You're right, you're right.
We do know that from covering many movies.
From day to day, right?
Robie Wade has been repealed.
Sure, we're bad at protecting pregnant women,
generally speaking, but this was a new take
on it for me personally.
Yep.
Right, but it could be here if Elon Musk was in charge.
We all know this is what Elon Musk wants.
Yeah. Is Elon's world? We know We all know this is what Elon Musk wants. Yeah.
Is Elon his world?
We know that he loved this movie,
but not for the reasons that a normal human being
would love it.
I do want to say before I forget,
I was convinced that the final reveal would be
that she either turned into a scary rat
or gave birth to a rat.
I wanted a big scary rat.
And I thought that would be a fun pivot from alien stuff to just a scary rat or gave birth to a rat. I wanted a big scary rat.
And I thought that would be a fun pivot
from alien stuff to just a big rat.
Nasty rat.
Give us the rat cut.
Give us the rat cut.
It's out there. We want the rat cut.
American tail in space.
So now it's just rain and she eventually lures this hybrid alien human guy into this
loading dock ejectable, importantly, ejectable part of the ship and ejects him.
Yeah, it's a suspenseful moment where it's like, she has to do all these four levers and she gets three
and it seems like she's not gonna get the fourth
and they also are about to hit the rings,
but of course she gets it.
Last second.
And she had put on this suit and hooked herself
to the ship, so like, so she's in the room
that gets ejected as well, but she has a space suit on and is attached to the ship.
So the alien man-boy thing gets flung out into space,
but she is also flung out into space,
but is hanging on by this tether basically,
and is able to start to pull herself back up into the ship.
And at some point she's like made it clear to Andy
that they're gonna both go to Evaga.
Well, but the alien, it ain't done yet.
Oh, well I don't remember.
You remember?
There's a little jump scare.
We think it's dead, but then it comes back
and it like squeezes her.
Did that happen?
Yes, you're right.
It injects this little tongue thing.
And it's cracking her helmet a little bit.
It's cracking her helmet.
And then it's like one of the third act,
the crazy things where it's just kind of,
we kind of get what happens.
Is she going to make it?
Yes, she is. Yes.
Yeah, it does. So there's a jump scare.
It comes back. But then it kind of like in Alien when it's like,
oh, no, it didn't die. But then it then it does die.
Yeah. Yeah.
Then they're like, then they're like, this is cute.
And maybe it's a meet cute.
And then they make out.
And then it's a romcom. And then it becomes a romcom. And then it's a rom-com.
And then it becomes a rom-com.
And then it's a dramedy.
And then it's a full-blown drama.
Puts herself in her little cryopod and records.
You're right, she does, she tells Andy
we're both gonna go to Evaga, right?
Yes, yes, yes.
She's like, I'm gonna get you in.
She's like, we're gonna risk it all
and you're gonna go to Evaga,
which is like, if they're not allowed on the planet,
I'm a little confused about what you think,
what your game plan is to circumnavigate that.
But the point is her journey of like, he's my brother.
And she tells him, Andy,
I'm giving you a new prime directive.
Do what's best for both of us.
Which is a good message, a positive message
for the audience to take away.
Exactly, and they launch away as the rest of the station,
Romulus and Remus crash into the rings.
Very cinematic, looks great.
Looks good, yeah.
And she's- Wait, when she says both of us,
does she mean that company too?
No, she means her and Andy.
Oh, okay.
He's included in it now, because it used to just be what's best for Rain is his directive,
and now it's what's best for Rain and Andy is the new directive.
And so they're headed for Evaga.
She's recording her little memo, like that's in the end of most of the alien movies
where it's like, rain, here...
Captain's log, whatever.
Captain's log.
Lone survivor.
Everybody's dead except for me and Andy,
and we're headed to Evaga,
and I can't remember if there's any other thing
that's said there, but they made it,
and they're on their way to Iwaga.
And that's the end of the movie.
And there's no credit sequence if I remember correctly.
Nope, I don't believe so.
Yeah.
Well, great movie, I loved it.
It's good, like, once it gets going,
I feel like he's very good
at nonstop action.
Yeah, we really, people started dying right away
and it was immediately so scary and tense.
The second they get on that ship, it was like,
oh, fuck, this is so bad.
And I, yeah, love that.
Yeah.
I feel like I've heard about that so much
that the idea of ever being on a spaceship
Just feels so deeply unsafe. No matter what. Yeah, there's just simply no way I would ever do it
I think those astronauts that are stranded on the International Space Station right now are thinking about this
No, also the news headlines are eating that up.
They're like, they will not come home until 2025.
And that's like a few months from now.
But when you say it that way, it sounds terrible.
I think it's pretty bad.
I mean, I really wouldn't.
I wouldn't like to be there.
But I wouldn't be an astronaut.
So I'd never be in that situation.
Because space is scary and I'm not going there.
Yeah, so many people have made huge mistakes
if I find myself in space.
I can't fathom the things that would have to take place
for me to get there.
But I don't wanna.
Okay, Haley, tell us your rankings of the alien films.
Here's how I have come to view,
now that I have seen all of them,
here's how I've come to think of them.
Alien will always be my number one.
It's just a perfect movie in every way.
And in a way that transcends a horror movie.
It's just one of my flat out favorite movies of all time.
Aliens I also love. I it's a perfect movie in its own
way too, for what it does. And just you know, takes into
different genre places that the first alien did. This is where
it gets interesting for me because I, I did really enjoy
Prometheus and Covenant. When they first came out, I was a
little bit deflated
by the explanation of the space jockey and everything
because the mystery in the first Alien
is what makes it such a special movie to me.
But I now just think of Prometheus and Covenant,
two movies I enjoy, as one movie series.
And the first two Aliens are over
in a different part of the universe,
even though they're not technically related.
And I just have to think of them as two different experiences because the most special thing
to me is that perfect mystery and the unknown that is captured in the first alien.
And then I guess there's another divergence too, because Romulus is better put together
and better executed than three and four. Three
is not the director's fault. We all know the sad story of how the studio wouldn't let David
Fincher shoot the movie his way and messed with the edit. And it's a movie that was shot
without a finished script, which is usually death for any movie.
So that's not something that can really be held against that movie.
There's a lot of really excellent stuff in Alien 3.
There's some sequences where you're like, okay, that's great Fincher and everything,
but there's story problems because you have a studio just trying to crank out a movie
very quickly without any regard for how the story is going to be put
together. So but with Romulus, I'm like, it's a better
constructed movie. But I don't know how good I feel about where
this direction is going with franchise with them trying to
make a franchise where you can crank out a bunch of movies.
It's untethered from any kind of plot canon
from Prometheus or Covenant.
And I think that the plan is just to make a couple
of haunted house movies with aliens.
So, and I don't know, that doesn't excite me
as much as trying to come up with some new ideas.
So I almost have these like different years now
where I think Romulus, I definitely enjoyed more
than three in Resurrection, but it is a different phase where it's a studio
taking control of the franchise
and starting to mass produce something in a way
that isn't as exciting to me as something that's flawed,
but a director has total control over it.
So that's where I am.
That makes sense.
I agree completely.
I feel like it would be insane
if anyone didn't have Alien and Aliens
as like the one and two spots.
Yeah.
I could see, you know, you could flip them
and that's okay with me, but.
Yeah.
But if they're not one and two, what are you talking about?
What are we doing here?
What are we talking about?
Don't go on Twitter, you'll see some really distressing
takes that make you wonder what people are thinking
a lot of the time.
Yeah, that's wild, but kind of specific only to the alien franchise, right? Otherwise,
everything's good on there. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty normal stuff out there.
If it's a poll on X, you know, it's representative of the way people feel. For sure. And then I appreciated the gore in Prometheus and Covenant.
Like I feel like they ramped up the horror
in a way that satisfied my blood lust.
I was watching, Joel was watching one of them last night.
I can't remember which one, but it's whichever one.
There's a bunch of Ripley clones in that.
Oh, that's Resurrection, yeah.
Dude. That one's gross.
That was horrifying.
Yeah.
Horrifying.
I haven't seen that one in a long time.
Oh my God, it's so nasty and gnarly and upsetting.
It's bad.
And I was like, okay, yeah.
I mean, they're willing to go there for sure.
That's the thing is I just feel a little bit like
I thought Fede Alvarez would push it further
than it has gone before
and I don't think that that happened.
And to no fault of Fede.
We don't blame Fede.
It was not his fault.
Yeah, I'm sure he was doing the best he could
in the situation that he was given.
But I mean, I agree.
I had a lot of fun in this movie.
I had a really good time.
I had a really good time.
But.
Jenna, it should be noted, hated it.
Made her feel really bad.
Jenna was doing worse.
I loved it.
I was between Emily and Jenna
and Emily was like having a great time
and Jenna was like so upset. Yeah, Jenna was like. Jenna was having a really great time and Jenna was like so upset.
Yeah, Jenna was like.
Jenna was having a really hard time.
That was the tough guy.
We were concerned, you know, we're not concerned,
but we were like, oh, Emily's gonna be scared
and you were surfing this movie,
but someone on the very end of the row
was having a good time.
She was not doing well.
I don't know.
Oh, you guys, Halchella.
I don't wanna talk about that right now.
Okay, what I want to talk about that right now. Okay, what I do want to talk about before we have to close this glorious chapter, there's
still something I'm quite excited to talk about, which is Blink Twice.
Oh, yes!
Just came out in theaters on Friday.
I did see it yesterday, Joel and I saw it.
I will say very little because I feel it is a movie
that really benefits from you just going in and seeing it.
But I will fully recommend people see this movie.
Hailey, tell us just a little bit,
I don't know, give us a little one-liner.
Yes, thank you so much.
We're very excited about this movie
and it's just great because
by watching this podcast, you don't have to go see Romulus. You can go see Blink Twice.
Definitely go see Blink Twice. Do not see Blink Twice.
They got enough money. You can go see our movie.
Exactly. Do not see Blink Twice.
From the small screen, really. You know, it's the, it it's you should be watching on your phone. Uh, no. Um, uh, Blake's Wives is a movie written and directed by Zoe Kravitz, co-written
with Eric Feigenbaum, and it stars Channing Tatum as tech titan Slater King,
who's had a recent PR scandal.
And as he's trying to rehabilitate his reputation, he meets these women at a charity function
played by Alia Shawkat and Naomi Ackie.
And he whisks them off to his luxurious private island with his entourage of bros, including
me and Simon Rex and Christian Slater.
And we get out to the island, we start partying, and then it sort of becomes a mystery thriller
and the rug kind of gets pulled out
from under you.
So yeah, it's a wild ride.
I was more on edge in Blink twice than I was
during Romulus, I gotta say.
Wow.
I was like, because I think for Romulus,
I was like, I know what I'm signing up for,
I know what's about to happen here.
I was so, and there's, you know, they really,
they zero in on some knives.
They make a point of talking about sharp knives
and you know how I feel about knives.
And so I was so on edge during most of Blink Twice.
But I think that, yeah, you people should definitely.
Also, I feel like it like targets the central fear
that we all have, which is like, you're enjoying yourself.
You're having a good time.
You're like feeling happy,
and maybe you like the people you're hanging out with,
but also you're like,
oh, am I gonna die?
Well, that's an important question to be asked
in that exact situation, Henley.
And if I'm ever on a spaceship,
I'm like, I'll be dead soon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, you're like, oh, I'm not going to last.
I know where the horror is.
It's right here.
Talking with my friend about, like, you know,
the moderate preparations you do for, like, having extra water
for an earthquake or if society breaks down after the election.
And we're like, you know what?
If something really wrong happens, we'll probably just die.
That's probably just die.
That's probably just what's gonna happen.
I'm worried about if I have enough water or dried food,
I'll probably just be dead and then whatever.
If it's that bad.
Yeah.
This is comforting that.
There's some life.
If you take anything away from Romulus,
just know that you will die.
We'll all die.
And there won't be an alien trying to breastfeed from you. That's
probably not going to be what it does. That won't happen. I promise. Haley, thank you
so much. Thank you for having me. Joining us. Super fun seeing this movie together too.
It really was. Even if we weren't allowed to bring our second and third cocktails into the theater with us.
We still managed to have fun.
Even if we were brutally shamed and the word literally was employed against us.
He was like, there's literally a sign. There's literally a sign that you can't bring them down here.
Wait, he said that?
Like four times.
He really scolded us. He really, really tutted us.
There's literally a sign?
There's literally a sign.
Yeah. He was very upset. I literally a sign? There's literally a sign. Yeah.
He was very upset.
I literally am confused by the layout of this theater.
I literally don't understand.
I am literally extremely confused
why some part of this theater you are allowed to drink
and another part you're not.
And you have the bar.
Anyway, whatever.
Um.
I'm over it.
I'm over it.
Anyway.
Oh, we love you guys. Hell Chella Forever. I'm over it.
Oh, we love you guys. Hell Chella Forever.
Everybody go see, blink twice.
I can't wait to see it.
And oh, I literally didn't even think about a voice
from this movie.
There's not one.
There's not one.
They do have accents.
Yeah, some people are British.
I will say there was parts where they,
I couldn't understand what they were saying. I feel like the mix was a little, some people are British. I will say there was parts where I couldn't understand
what they were saying.
I feel like the mix was a little, if you had times.
Yeah.
And I was like, I don't know if it's that they have accents,
but I don't know what they're saying.
That's why I couldn't understand anybody's names
because that first scene was like,
Oh, I didn't even draw.
All the sound was mixed.
It was really hard.
I didn't hear anything.
Really, really tricky.
Yeah.
I don't have a British accent.
That's fine.
Don't do it.
What did you do with the AI version of Ian Holm
that they tried to recreate, too?
The goo.
You met Ian Holm.
That was perfect.
The goo.
You must get the goo back to the ship.
You must get the goo back to the ship
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