Too Scary; Didn't Watch - AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON with Joel Jensen

Episode Date: May 11, 2022

Oscar-worthy special effects make-up, a killer soundtrack and a variety of gorgeous British accents, we're recapping AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON! Join us and long-time Horrorspondent Joel Jensen as we uncover whether this is truly the greatest werewolf movie of all time** (**lol of course it's not. New Moon is**)Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfz9AhPnM8cYou can rent AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON from Amazon Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. And uh oh! Then what are we gonna do? Oh no, we're lost. We're lost at sea.

We're lost at sea without our captain. Oh, captain. Our captain, Sammy, who normally watches the movies for us because she's very brave and she provides a vital service and we need her desperately but she needs to have some fun and she she deserves it she deserves it and and we will survive we will persevere and we'll miss her dearly and we will see her again

soon so this week it's just me and you hen wow other than the loss of sammy in this moment has anything scary happened to you this week um okay the scary thing that happened to me this week is that i watched encanto okay have you seen it i have not but i've heard it's very good it fucked me up oh no henley oh no Oh, no. Henley, oh, no. It fucked. It's Pixar. Yes. No. Disney? Up. Honestly, what's the difference? I don't know. Who cares? Disney, Pixar.

It's one of those. It's all the same. Okay. You haven't seen it, so it's going to fresh out of the womb, fresh out of the womb. And I don't think Pixar, Disney, whatever, has ever done animation for such a tiny baby before. Like, they are the tiniest, tiniest babies, tiniest babies I've ever seen. She's carrying all three. She has them in her arm.

Oh, talk. I mean, talk about scary. It is. And then her husband, her husband. Oh, no. Is murdered. Oh, no. Is murdered.

That's the opening fucking scene of this movie. They will fucking gut you, man. And it is what everything returns to. You know, it is the original point of trauma that we are consistently fed and reminded of. Three newborn triplet babies. I cannot stress how much I cried during this movie. Like I was

weeping. I was so mad because Tim has been wanting to watch this movie. Tim always wants to watch these fucking Pixar movies and he won't watch a horror movie to save his goddamn life but he will watch some shit like this? He makes

me watch this. Like, I am not joking when I talk about I turned to him halfway through and I was like, I'm furious. I'm furious at you for putting me through this. Like, my vulnerable heart cannot take this kind of content. And I am picturing movie theaters across the globe, filled with children, watching this story unfold. And we're just letting this happen, this kind of sadness. I cannot. I wanted to watch Casino. I wanted to watch Casino. Oh, man. A great choice. I got vetoed for Encanto.

Oh, wow. I am still thinking about it days later. And I just, I just, I don't know what else to say, except I respect that. It's a great movie. The music, it's fun. It's a beautiful, a beautiful, beautiful story of family. I get it. But I just like, I'm going to cry thinking about right now.

It was, I, it was, it was too much. It was too much for me. Well, wow. I'm so sorry. I hope you get to watch Casino soon. Me too. I really want to see it. I've never seen it before.

And I really want to see it. I just saw it for the first time recently, too. I'll tell you what. It is long. It's a really long movie. But it's great. And the looks. Ooh, the looks. Sharon looks sharon stone impeccable

that's the main reason i want to see it out of this world yeah i just want i want those visuals in my brain um okay but my rant is over i'm done i'm coming back to myself i'm at peace again. Great. Emily, tell me what happened to you this week. I mean, I went to Florida. That's why I wasn't here last week to record. So that, you know, it was a lovely trip. I saw my family. It was my mom's birthday. I saw my nephew.

We went to Disney World. It was a whole lot of stuff. It was a whole lot of stuff. I want to know. I want to know everything. I can't believe you went to Disney World. When was the last time you went to Walt Disney World? The last time I went was I was 16 years old. So half of my life ago, I went and it's overwhelming. I'll tell you that. It's overwhelming. It's great. I mean, it's great, but I've only been to Disneyland recently, you know, and it's just so much smaller, so much smaller, so much easier to navigate. Also, Florida is hot as hell.

I grew up there, but man, oh, man, it's easy to forget. It was like swamp lands, too. It's so humid, right? Especially, yeah, florida where disney world is like middle of the day the first day we were in the park i truly i like felt like i was getting beat down by the sun it was like tough but i suppose a scary thing that i that happened learned i was talking to my dad one day um and it came up that he has thought every single time on this podcast every single time that i have talked about robert pattinson he has thought that i've been talking about Patton Oswalt. Wait, what?

So we were talking and he mentioned Patton Oswalt. He was like, you love him. It's the guy you love, Patton Oswalt. And I was like, what are you talking about? Wait, what? He's fine. I don't know. I don't love him.

He was like, no, he's like your favorite guy. And I was like, are you talking about Robert Pattinson? And I just can't believe the amount of times I've talked to Robert Pattinson, the ways in which I've talked to Robert Pattinson, to know that my dad has been picturing Patton Oswalt this whole time. Because you, okay, all right, for anyone who hasn't been listening, first of all, you can use your common sense to surmise. You can use your common sense. But you like to go on and on about how like beautiful what a weird what a weird interesting

actor gorgeous man um like a moody freak so compelling so like and it's and i just couldn't believe it i just couldn't believe it and so if anybody else out there is thinking i'm talking about patten oswalt i'm'm simply not. Nothing against Patton Oswalt. I've got a lot of love for Ratatouille, but no. That's not who I'm talking about. That is so... Does your dad know

who Robert Pattinson is? I think so. Honestly, Patton Oswalt, like, he is kind of a gorgeous moody freak. I don't know that that's true. I don't know that I agree. I think that he might be, though.

If you really think about it for a second. I am and I don't see it. I don't see it. I kind of see it. I kind of see it. He's been through a lot. He lost his life. He's been through a lot. He's an again, this is not this is not I would never pit the two against each other.

This isn't an either or situation. It's just not a misunderstanding. I'm almost never thinking about Patton Oswalt. I'll just put it that way. I'm almost never thinking about Patton Oswalt. never thinking about Patton Oswalt. And so to think that my father, who I am close to, who I love dearly, thinks that

I am frequently thinking about Patton Oswalt was just really interesting to see. It was interesting. Hilarious. I'll also just say a scary thing. It was the Met Gala this week. Also, you know, we're not going to

talk about the real life scary things that are happening, which are awful, but it was also the Met Gala this week. And fucking Jared Leto. Can we just be done with Jared Leto? Wait, but that wasn't Jared Leto. You're not talking about the guy who looked like Jared Leto. No, but Jared Leto was at the Met Gala

and what his look was is another, and I don't recall who it is. Another actor, actress, female person dressed up as him. They dressed the same. So she had like a beard put on and had her hair like him. They're wearing the exact same outfit. So he showed up at the Met Gala with a double of himself.

Like that was his look fucking last year at the Met Gala. He had a little mannequin head of him. So there were two of year at the Met Gala, he had a little mannequin head of him. So there were two of him at that Met Gala. And it's like, could a person be more obviously screaming that they're deranged and like a bad psychotic person that we don't want in this world? Him being like, well, look, what if there are two of me? What if again, there were two of me? I'm so fucking great.

I hate him. So I hate him. I looked at a lot of content regarding the met gala like so much content i didn't come across one picture of this so good it feels like maybe the media agrees with you like no one even though he tried to like duplicate his presence at the met gala it was erased effectively erased it was erased i didn't see it anywhere oh man i didn't see this anywhere i'll show you but oh i just really to use this phrase that makes me feel like sammy's here it really boiled my blood oh it boiled your blood it boiled my blood to see it and i hated it wait this is so funny i feel like more and more we're collecting sammy isms she's oh yeah she's the wet my whistle thing blew my

mind the fact that she says two shakes for lamb's tail if i heard sammy casually say two shakes in two shakes of a lamb's tail i would really be i would honestly be shocked are you are you joking my joking my ass right now joking my ass right. That one has we've we've picked that up. We say that a lot. Joking my ass right now. Sammy, we miss you. Sammy, we love you. Hope you're back in two shakes of a lamb's tail.

And I'll also just say really super quickly before we get into this week's movie, which we will do. I promise. Happy freaking Mother's Day, Henley. It is currently Mother's

Day. It is her first Mother's Day with this with her sweet child being outside of her body we love him we love her moms are truly the most extraordinary people on the planet

all parents caregivers but wow to do what you do is astounding and I love you very much and I am very impressed by you and I just thank you the best oh thank you Emily that's so nice this is very lucky that's so nice thank you I've been surprised by the amount of um nice messages I've received today honestly including this one um yeah being a mother is I've said it once and I'll say it again, it's a psychotic

thing to do. Yeah. I agree. And I'm doing it. And I love it. And you're doing it. It's really hard. It seems so hard. It is hard. But Silas is 10 months old now and he's just becoming more and more of his own

little person with a fun exciting personality. He just has the biggest shit-eating grin on his face all the time. He's just so cute. I put him in the swings today for the first time. He loved

it. He loved it. So, yeah. It's hard. Also very joyful thing. That's really nice. yeah we we were at disney world with my two and a half year old nephew and like man oh man it's fun it's cool it's like the most extraordinary thing and also so hard oh my god and truly psychotic like it's absolutely psychotic uh-huh so many people do it so many people do it You're one of them I'm glad you do Because I love

Love our little Silas I love These new little people But Okay You guys are crazy Okay I've put it off long enough

Henley do you want to know What movie we're doing this week? I'm going in blind once again I really want to know She doesn't even know I didn't even tell her I didn't even tell her What we are covering this

week is an American werewolf in London. Oh my god. Oh my god. I'm so excited. I know nothing about this movie. I feel like the title says a lot. The title's doing a lot. The title gives you a lot of what you can expect.

Yeah. Yeah. You're getting it from that um i was going to try to watch i was limiting my search when i knew i had to watch movie to anything around 90 minutes that's as long as i can do a horror movie pretty much regardless of what it is and i was going to watch we summon the darkness which was the movie that i thought what i was confused about alex Alexander Daddario being in a horror movie, I forget what it fucking was

that I got wrong. It's this one. I was gonna watch it. Watch the trailer. So many blades. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. And then, I remember, this movie has been on our list for a while. It has been requested by listeners. It has been on my personal list for a while. As one that I should see. I had not

wanted to do it for a while i not wanted to watch it because i was mad at john landis the writer and director um because we learned that he is responsible for the death the deaths of some people in a really awful way what i don't know about that what is that you do remember the twilight zone movie we watched that documentary about cursed films and i don't remember entirely the circumstances but he was like irresponsible with the filming and so a helicopter like chopped some people in half the movie never saw the light of day because they died like on camera okay okay i'm not kidding when i say i blacked out during that episode because it was

bad there were a lot of really really bad things that happened that was the worst one i think that we heard about and it's and it is his fault we went in thinking this is going to be like a fun light-hearted like haha spooky curses spooky curses and no and then it was like no like children were dying left and right like it was like terrible it was terrible bad okay anyway so i had put it off. I had put it off for a really long time because I was like, I don't want to watch this movie. But anyway, I finally did. So there it is. There it is. It's An American Werewolf in London. It was released in 1981.

It was written and directed by John Landis. It stars David Naughton, Jenny Agutter. That's probably said that wrong. Griffin Dunn, John Woodvine. It has an 89% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 7.9 on Metacritic, and a 7.5 on IMDb.

Wow. So people like this movie. Yeah. It had a budget of $5.8 million, and it got $62 million in the box office. Great. So good for them. And you can rent it on Amazon for $3. And it got 62 million in the box office. So great. Good for them.

And you can rent it on Amazon for $3.99. And we have a guest with us to discuss this movie. You know him. You've heard of him. He's coming to you all the way from the other side of our shared apartment. It's horror respondent Joel Jensen. Hey, good to be here, good to be back. Oh my God.

When Emily texted me telling me that Joel was going to be on the pod, I was like, say no more. I am thrilled. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Joel. I'm so happy you're here. I'm really happy to be here. Happy Mother's Day, Henley.

Thank you. And, you know, a day like today, you know, motherhood's a choice, like it or not, you fucking pieces of shit. I know. But happy Mother's Day. What were we thinking? I'm just talking about the Supreme Court. Fuck these motherfuckers. But happy Mother's Day. Thank you, Joel. the supreme court fuck these motherfuckers but um uh happy mother's day thank you joel thank you for breaking the silence of the roe v wade conversation that emily and i were like

couldn't even bring myself seen around we don't have to we don't have to talk about it but i'm very very mad and yeah i mean we are really mad too and and in a state of denial yeah it's the most it's it's um like an excruciating thing for a person to go through when it is their choice right yeah yes it is it's like the hardest thing a person can choose to do and so for anybody to have to do it without choosing is um torture and it's cruel and unusual and it's fucking despicable and it makes me want to crawl into a hole so um joel and i watched this movie great um also because i was like oh if i make joel watch this movie with me he can do most of the work um and we wanted to have joel back it's been a while the listeners are demanding it and hey joel did anything scary happen to you this week um yeah i mean so as you previously stated we were in florida we went to disney world

uh we went to animal kingdom which uh part of animal kingdom is the realm of Pandora, which is where the film series Avatar takes place. It's the planet of Avatar. And we went to Pandora, Avatar land. We rode some Avatar themed rides. And what I came to realize in sort of as the like icy clutches of horror grasped my heart, I realized that I want to see the next one and I'm excited about it. Oh my God.

I mean, look, I'm excited for Avatar 2. We're all kidding ourselves if we think we're not watching Avatar 2. I don't know what happened to me. Of course we're watching Avatar 2. Are we fucking kidding? What's crazy is I know I'm not alone in this.

I know that a lot of people are going to see Avatar 2. A lot of people will. A lot. Avatar 1, at least up until very recently, was like the biggest box office of all time. And nobody liked it. Anyway, like nobody liked it. like nobody likes nobody liked it i certainly didn't like it i thought it absolutely sucked but i in going to fucking avatar land i you're part of yeah like it like won me over and got me to be like you know what i mean it is james cameron

i mean this world is really cool and we're like writing this thing you know i was like i'm like oh man this world is fully realized oh my gosh it's like the propaganda campaign that's being waged for this movie which is it's one of those things where it's like the uh like mandela effect or whatever where it feels like somehow through sheer will and marketing dollars, these massive corporations are convincing us all that we want more of this awful shit. And it succeeded. And I'm sitting there inside this park that I have no idea why anybody would have thought was a good idea to build being like, this was a good idea.

Like, I absolutely just got dominated my it makes my brain feel like as soft as pudding to be this malleable by marketing executives and yet as soft as pudding i'm like clamoring for more of this shit okay yeah we rode the long-anticipated Avatar ride. There's one that always has a two-hour wait. They make you pay extra to get on the FastPass line

for this ride. You have to pay additional money just for this ride, which we did like fucking idiots. It was the last thing we did at Disney World because you could only get a reservation for the end of the day. We went and did it and it ruled and I loved it and I was like, I would be on this ride for an hour if they would let me.

Wait, tell me about the ride. What happens on the ride? You ride on the back of a banshee. Also known as an Ikari. You remember that? Oh my god! In the Navi language, which again, hey, this is a pretty fully realized world.

They have a whole language. It's a keystone species. So I've been thinking about keystone species for the past week. Which apparently seals are one. I don't know what that means, but they showed a picture of a seal. They're like, it's because it's where they're positioned in the food chain. Okay, you have been thinking about this. That's the thing about Avatar. It makes makes you think it really makes you think this is how fully realized it is

wait so it's like a roller coaster where that's simulated it's kind of like um it's like vr basically it's like soaring soaring over california that ride at disneyland if you've been on that or it's like you're sitting in on a moving object in front of a big screen. And like the thing you're sitting on moves as the screen goes, but it's like you wear 3d glasses and it has like multi-sensory stuff going. So like when you're sitting there, you're like straddling like a little, I don't know,

chair thing. And it, it moves like a breathing animal. Like it really feels like you're riding an animal. Oh my God. It's so cool. It like blows air and mists water in your face as you like fly over the ocean. Oh my God.

Which has this giant fucking whale thing in it that it feels like it's presented to you like, yeah, we all know what this is, right? Of course, nobody does. we all know what this is right of course nobody does and so you like soar around and you fly and you're riding on your banshee slash ikari and part of what's crazy is like when you're in line they explain to you the premise of avatar like 5 000 times where they keep explaining to you in like one of those like pre-rolling movies like like videos of like, all right, we're going to jack you into your avatar. Your avatar is a thing of combined Navi and human DNA that we project your mind into. And then you can control it. And it's like, which I had totally forgotten.

Is that what the movie Avatar is about? Yes. You guys, I have never seen Avatar. What? Well, don't, but you do. You've never seen Avatar? No, I've never seen it. I heard it was bad.

It is, but you should see it. But like, it was one of those movies that was such a thing and I missed the boat, but then everyone always talked about how bad it was. So I was like, why would I? Well, you're going to have five more chances to get on board. Can you guys bring me up to speed? Like, they're making another one.

They've been making five more. They're making five more, but they've been making the second one for like 10 years. Yes. Like, what's going on? Where are the others? Are the others in the pipeline, but they haven't started production on any of them. Right. So James Cameron will fully be dead by the time the fifth one comes out.

Probably. Probably all will be dead. We'll be dead. We'll all be dead. We'll all be one comes out. Probably all will be dead. We'll be dead. We'll all be dead. But Avatar will live on. But Avatar will live on. Avatar 2 subtitled The Way of Water that comes out in December of this year.

Happy birthday, Joel. And me. And me. And happy birthday, Emily. We're all going to go see Avatar The Way of Water. But it takes under underwater largely. It's like it's about like an aquatic community in Pandora. And they shot it like it's very it's very James Cameron. You were like they shot it like in an underwater tank.

And probably it was miserable for everyone involved. Like the abyss was. They a big tank. And probably it was miserable for everyone involved, like the Abyss was. They're wearing like mocap suits underwater. Miserable. Hell. God, what a nightmare. Kate Winslet's in it. That's the one thing I know.

And it continues the story of Sully and his family. And one of the avatars is pregnant or something. I don't know. I saw people speculating based off of some stills that they released. We gotta do this as a bonus episode. I can't believe that you're excited. I want to recap it. Oh man, it worked.

It worked. You got us, Disney World. I'm just like putty in the hands of these marketing executives. And it's really upsetting. But I can't wait. That ride sounded awesome. It was legit. I found it very soothing. I was like, oh, I would like to just do this.

Like, if you could just, like at arcades, put in more money and be like, I'll stay on this one. I would just have done that for a really long time. I like felt my body giving in to the ride and I started to lean with my banshee. Like, I'm really doing it.

I felt myself like relax into it. Do you know what I mean? Like I just sort of like exhaled and was like, here we go. And I'm like flying around and being like, Pantora's beautiful. I can't wait to return to this. I wonder if the next four movies will address this stampede of like weird rhinoceroses that it feels like we're all supposed to know what these are. I can't wait to just to dive in. Anyway, that's what scared me.

Holy shit. Well, I not only have I not seen Avatar, I've like basically never been to an amusement park or been on a roller coaster or any kind of ride. What the fuck? What? I've basically never been to any amusement

park or been on any ride. That's what you just said. What does that mean? Exactly what I just said. You does that mean? Exactly what I just said. You've never been on a ride? Essentially, no. What do you mean essentially? How did you sort of do it?

What are you talking about? Like the last time I went to an amusement park, I think I was like 10 years old. So it doesn't count? And I wasn't old enough to really go on. I was too scared to go on like any scary ride. Too scared to ride. So I've like basically never been on an amusement park ride. This one sounds great.

I really want to go. You'd love this. This would probably be a lot for you to process because I feel like there's a certain contextuality involved with ride innovation. So this would be such a foreign concept to you. Your brain might not be able to handle it. Kelly's existed in the world. She knows how things are. I don't know, man.

I don't know. Henley, brace yourself. Brace yourself. You're not going to believe what it's like in theme parks. Rides are crazy, dude. Rides are crazy. Rides are crazy. That that's true should we fucking get into this movie i think so i think we've been talking for like an hour okay okay so yes an american werewolf in london which has been on my mine and joel's list for a while because he had seen it a couple times he really likes it um it made us really

think we should do a whole like there aren't enough werewolf movies to be completely honest And it's a very cool world Yeah, Precious Few Precious Few So Yeah, I have Some trivia about this movie Henley, you said you know very little

No, I don't know anything I will say it's not very scary Like it That's also sort of why I picked will say it's not very scary like it uh that's also sort of why i picked it because it's not very scary but it is really good and um the effects are really really cool that's awesome the like creature design the makeup is all really really fun made me think actually i was thinking about this morning um that creature design for the werewolf it all it sort of almost reminds me of the attack the block aliens and i wonder if it would if they were at all inspired by um that werewolf design anyway here's some trivia um the first is that this is the first film to earn the academy award for best makeup

the category was created in 1981 and this movie won it. Wow. Which it should. The makeup is, like I said, really, really cool. Okay. Rick Baker claimed to have been... I think he's... Who is he? He did the special makeup. The makeup effects, yeah. He claimed to have been disappointed by

the amount of time spent shooting the face-changing shot for the transformation after having spent months working on the mechanism. John Landis only required one take, lasting about seven seconds. Baker felt that he had wasted his time until seeing the film with an audience that applauded during that one seven-second shot. Wow.

It really is cool. I did feel like, I was like, whoa, they're really staying on this. And it's really impressive. That's crazy they did it in one take. That's amazing. Yeah. Well, it's probably so fucking hard to do that it's like, let's hope we get it. Okay, I know that this is a complicated person to talk about, but this is a cool trivia.

So, Michael Jackson was so bowled over by this movie, most especially the makeup and visual effects. He insisted on hiring the responsible personnel for the thriller music video. Oh, so John Landis directed it. The cinematographer was the same for this movie. The like creepy ambiance music. Same person, Rick Baker, doing the special effects and the same costume designer. All from this movie. That's amazing. Iconic. Iconic moment. Iconic. Yeah. Rick Baker doing the special effects and the same costume designer all from this movie.

That's amazing. Iconic. Iconic moment. Iconic. Yeah. And all of our memories. This movie was also filmed in sequence, which is unusual. I think it's cool.

The star of this movie, David Naughton, was then known as he was the like face of Dr. Pepper for this like famous Dr. Pepper ad. And Dr. Pepper dropped him because of his nude scenes in this movie. Oh, no. Dr. Pepper is a bunch of prudes. I forgot about Dr. Pepper. Right. Yeah. I don't like Dr. Pepper.

Do you like Dr. Pepper? Are they like still around? I love Dr. Pepper. I think so. You love Dr. Pepper. Yeah, I do. That's interesting. Where do you get Dr. Pepper? Like at Dr. Pepper. I think so. You love Dr. Pepper. Yeah, I do. That's interesting. Where do you get Dr. Pepper? Like at a gas station.

At amusement parks. Mountain Dew is also Dr. Pepper, right? What? Like same company? Company. Oh, I don't know. Same company. I feel like it's all owned by the same.

Dr. Pepper is Pepsi. That's right. It's all Pepsi. I think Dr. Pepper might be independent. No, that's impossible. That would be really crazy. That's impossible. An independent label.

Fuck soda. No, I think they're sort of indie. They're doing their own thing. Kind of like independent. Kind of punk rock soda. I don't like Dr. Pepper. Sorry. I like Cherry Coke better, which they're like the versions of each other, right?

No. Dr. Pepper is not cherry flavored. What's its flavor? I don't know. There is a rumor that it was prune flavored when I was in elementary school. That's what kids would say to bully you. They're like, you're having Dr. Pepper. You know what's made from prunes.

Prune flavoredflavored soda? Okay, we are never going to get into this movie. Okay. John Landis had to avoid filming any full frontal nudity of David Naughton during the transformation scene after Naughton informed Landis that he was not circumcised, even though his role was written as being Jewish. So that's why? That's why. There is a line about him being Jewish,

and it is specifically about his penis. So I guess they're like, we can't lose that. Can't lose that line. Also, I'll say there is full frontal, but I guess it's not close up enough to see whether or not he's circumcised but there is full frontal which I was like hell yeah cool let's do it there's not enough of that there's not enough as we've discussed

for men not for men there's there's plenty of it for women not enough of it for men uh uh John Landis also apparently had to cut some things out to get this movie an R rating and he um has said later that he regrets it he had to sort of tone it down a bit including some of the

nudity. There was like a more explicit sex scene and a little bit more gore that he had to remove. And I would be very curious to see if there ever could be a director's cut that included that stuff because I like to see it.

Okay. I don't know why I did that And so this is a sort of Sad bummer of a trivia And I put it last For some fucking reason But there has been a remake in the works It talks of remake for a very long time In 2009 it was announced

That they were going to do a remake Then it was delayed for a while Who was announced that they were going to do a remake then it was delayed for a while due to who knows um in 2016 they were like okay it's really happening and max landis who is john landis's son was going to do the remake he was going to write and direct it um but then he Then he became accused of sexual assault and that has ruined that project. It does. I was trying to look this up. It does seem like there is some either remake or new version coming out. They're doing like an American Werewolf in Rome maybe is a thing that's going to happen.

Because there's also an American Werewolf in Paris, which came 16 years after this one. Yeah, and has a great soundtrack. But apparently it's not a very good movie. Probably not. I don't know. It stars the guy who plays Shades in That Thing You Do. And one of the songs on the soundtrack is by Bush and it's called Mouth. And I used to listen to that song when I was in like fifth grade all the time.

Very cool. Very cool. Very cool. You're drinking prune soda listening to Bush. That sounded like Mad Libs. Those are all such unexpected words. Shades and that thing you do and I used to listen to the song Mouth by Bush.

Those are just made up words he put in there. Okay. Should we watch the trailer? We should watch the trailer, which full disclosure, I have not seen, but it is an 80s trailer, so I feel like it won't give away too much. And also, you know what it is.

It's an American werewolf in London. I don't know that there's a ton of surprises in this movie that will be revealed. So I think we can watch the trailer. Okie dokies. So let's freaking do it. Let's freaking do it. Let's do it.

Did you hear that? What was it? A coyote. There aren't any coyotes in England. What happened to them? Well, the police report said they were attacked by an escaped lunatic. Must have been a very powerful man. Jack and I were not attacked by a man.

It's an animal. A wolf. Did he say a wolf? Yes. I believe he did. Did you get a good look at the man who attacked you? Doctor, my memory is fine. It's my sanity I'm beginning to worry about. You've never had bad dreams before? Well, sure, as a kid, but never so real.

Never so weird. I'm going to look into your eyes my friend jack was just here your dead friend jack hi david he told me that i will become a monster in two days the supernatural the power the power of darkness, it's all true. Please believe me. Believe what? That tomorrow night, beneath the full moon, I'll sprout hair and fangs and eat people? You'd be surprised what horrors a man is capable of. Are you all right now?

I don't know. I'll let you know the next full moon. I'm a werewolf. You're gonna change. You'll kill people. You'll become... I know. A monster. David, don't lose control!

Control? What control? David, I can help you. No, I'm not safe to be with. You gotta stay away from me. Run! That trailer is really dramatic. Did it give away the whole movie? I tried not to watch or listen so i wouldn't be spoiled i

wouldn't want to be spoiled it didn't i mean it sort of did but it also sort of didn't i will say it that trailer i don't feel like it has the same tone as the movie like at all yeah that music was giving me pirates of the caribbean vibes it insane. Yeah, just the like, and the cuts and then black cut. Dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Like that. The movie is a lot, it's a lot lighter,

the movie, I feel like, than that trailer made. The trailer made it seem like really ominous. Mm-hmm. But, hey, you'll be the judge,

you know? All right, all right. And because I made Joel do all the work. Hey, Joel, you wanna take it away? Yeah, let's because I made Joel do all the work. Hey, Joel, you want to take it away? Yeah, let's do this. It's a great movie. You guys are going to have a fun time.

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that's hellobello.com slash too scary. Okay, so an American werewolf in london let's do it fade in oh we're looking at like um a series of shots of the northern english countryside so like green hills shrouded in fog and mist and it's beautiful but kind of foreboding and kind of mysterious and ancient feeling as we kind of roll our opening credits for a pretty long time. It's a pretty long sequence. We're still in the stage of moviemaking where the opening credits are like 15 minutes long. You are going to look at the name of every person who made this movie. But eventually we land on there's like a country road kind of in the middle of nowhere. And there's a truck driving down it.

And the truck comes up to the camera and pulls to a stop. And it's filled with sheep in the back. It's like a farmer hauling sheep. And he like opens the back gate. And there are two guys in there. David and Jack are friends. They're hitchhiking, backpacking across Europe. They're like college age guys. They're like best buds. They're kind of bros on this trip. And you get

a sense of their dynamic. David, who is our protagonist, he's sort of like very cheery and optimistic, having a really fun time. His friend Jack is sort of like, this shit sucks. I'm cold, a really fun time. His friend Jack is sort of like, this shit sucks. I'm cold. A sheep shit on my bag. I just want to get to Rome where I'm going to meet up with our friend Debbie, who has a great rack and is really hot.

I can't wait to have sex with Debbie because her bod is so good. They hop out and they're like walking down this road talking about how hot Debbie is. But boring. Dull, but with a Debbie is. But boring. Yeah, but boring. Dull, but with a great bod.

Jesus Christ. And yeah, they're just like, you know, kind of college bros. And the nature of the trip is they're starting up here in northern England. And they're going to like kind of hitchhike and backpack their way down to Rome to finally meet up with Debbie. Sounds like a great trip. Yeah, I want to do that. It sounds like it's going to work out great for these guys. I think it's going to go fine. It Debbie. Sounds like a great trip. Yeah. I want to do that. It sounds like it's going to work out great for these guys. I think it's going to go fine.

Probably going to work out pretty great. So, yeah. So, then they keep walking and then they get to this town called East Proctor, which is like a little sleepy town in northern England. It's got those like very classic stone buildings and stuff. It's like dreary and drab. And they arrive at this pub called the Slaughtered Lamb. And it has this like weird gnarly sign hanging outside of it with like an axe chopping through a wolf's head.

It's called the Slaughtered Lamb. We get the sense of like, ooh, this is kind of weird. But it's England, you know? So you don't know what... Right, right. Pups have crazy names there and British people are weird.

A big opinion I have, by the way, about Disney World that I didn't get into, I don't think British people should be allowed in. You don't think British people should be allowed in? No, I don't think that they

should get to have it. Wait. Why? Also, I will say, to your note about Encanto and little kids seeing it, Joel did also claim while we were on the Winnie the Pooh ride that he thinks it's important for kids to be instilled with a healthy

dose of fear. He thinks that it's important to have scary imagery for children. Well, obviously a lot of people agree with you, Joel. I mean, there's a reason why it's everywhere. Built an empire. The key to Disney is that it gives kids nightmares. Yeah, I think

it stays with you. Yeah, exactly. It burrows in. And it gives funnels people to Avatar. Yes, that's right. Anyway, so we're in with these British people Funnels people to Avatar. Yes, that's right. To see with you. So we're in with these British people. That is. So they like go into the pub and they're because they're cold.

It's like cold outside and they want to warm up. They're like, ah, we could get some soup or tea or something and like just warm up for a second. They step in and it's a fairly bustling pub. There's guys playing darts, people drinking beer, playing chess. The minute they step in, everybody stops and stares at them. Clearly, this is not a place where a lot of visitors come through or strangers come through. And they're all staring at them. And David and Jack are like, oh oh shit, this is kind of awkward.

They like kind of look around and they see on one wall, a pentagram has been painted in red. Oh, get the fuck out. And there are these big, crazy candles like on sconces everywhere in this, in this pub. They're like very melted. It looks like candles out of like the world of Alien. Oh my God. They're are in this weird cozy pub. And Jack and David look at each other and Jack recognizes the pentagram as being he's like, it's like the mark of the Wolfman or something.

And, you know, it gives him the willies. But they decide, like, it's cold outside. It's raining. We're going to chill. It's also nighttime. It's raining. We're going to chill. It's also nighttime. Night has fallen. And these guys clearly don't have any plan about where they're going to stay, what they're doing. Yeah.

They're just two guys. It really made me think, oh, men can go through the world without feeling the need to be scared. Like a completely different situation. Yeah. I mean, they're wrong, but, you know. Yeah. But there was also a time where everybody was hitchhiking, you know? Yeah.

It's shocking to me. But it is true. These dudes are not afraid of anything in the night, which, uh-oh. Uh-oh. So anyway, eventually the pub kind of like chills out. Everybody kind of gets back to their thing and they like ask, like, what's going on with that star? Uh oh. And they're like, you know what? Fuck it. Let's just leave. And so they they leave and we stay in the pub with this with the townsfolk and the bartender. The only woman in the building. She's like, we can't just let them go.

They told them they said stick to the stick to the road and avoid the moors. Beware the moors. Stick to the road. Beware the moors. Beware the moon. They give them like a lot of warnings but then let them walk. But the bartender's like, we can't just let them go. And the guy, there's

this one guy who's like playing chess who's kind of like seems like the leader. He's like, should we let the world know our business? Like, we don't want to like bring any attention to our community. And the woman goes, so it's murder then?

And then the guy goes, well, it's in God's hands. Oh, wow. So, you know, something is foreboding here. A werewolf, perhaps? It might be a werewolf. It'll be shocked to find that David and Jack don't stick to the road. And in fact, they walk straight to the moors. Just walking through grass in the dark.

It's cold they don't know where they're going like aside from the warnings they've gotten stick to the road because where the fuck are you trying to go you need to sleep somewhere did they ask about like an inn somewhere no they're just going back out they got too creeped out and i think they were just like we just got to get out here but then they still could have stuck to the road they absolutely should have stuck to the road. At the bare minimum. So we like cut back into the pub and the townsfolk continue to argue.

And then they hear a howl and they all stop talking and they all look at each other very sheepishly and ashamed and scared. But don't leave. They don't go anywhere. Somebody's like, we we gotta go out and help those guys and nobody does anything once that howl comes they're like fuck it so now we cut back to the

boys they hear the howl they get like scared Jack's like hey man maybe we should just head back to the pub so they decide to do that then they end up getting lost because they're just in a fucking field. And they don't know what direction is what. But then they start to sense they hear another howl and they start to sense that there's something out there.

There's something circling them, following them, watching them. And they start to get scared. He's like, what is it, a coyote or something? There's no coyotes in England. Is it a guy out there? What's going on? And as they're like kind of looking around, trying to like peer into the darkness to find it, David falls. He stepped in like a little rabbit hole and he slipped and fell over.

Wouldn't happen if you're on the road. Yeah. Oh, wouldn't happen if you're on the road. Yeah. And Jack bends over to like give him a hand to like pull him up. And all of a sudden, Jack gets fucking tackled by a wolf, a werewolf. And it rips him to fucking pieces. Oh, Jesus Christ.

It's like really a great moment because the movie's been very light. And like these guys have like their banter's very comedic and broadly comic and whatever and then all of a sudden Jack is like literally being torn to shreds he becomes the shredded man quite literally oh no and like blood is flying everywhere he's getting chomped and bitten he's screaming

it's like really very violent and David runs oh no he leaves jack behind oh no he runs away eventually he he stops and he's like wait i gotta go back he turns around runs back and he finds jack is super dead shredded ripped open bad and then the world attacks uh david and as it like bears down on him and starts trying to bite him it like scratches him it open, bad. And then the werewolf attacks David. And as it like bears down on him and starts trying to bite him, it like scratches him.

It scratches his chest. And then bang, a gunshot. The wolf falls over. David turns and sees the townsfolk standing there with a big, like a big British gun. They shot the werewolf. And he looks back over to the werewolf and he sees it is now a naked guy with a big bullet hole in him. So when it dies, it turns back into a guy, um, a human. So, and, uh, David's sort of like panicked.

He doesn't know what's happened. He's like freaked out. And then we cut to, he wakes up in a hospital bed. Um, he, and the first word out of his mouth is jack where's jack i know it really is sad it's really sad is this where the nurse says something about his penis um yes so before he wakes up he's in a hospital bed and we and we uh two nurses are in the room with him and they're talking to each other they clearly think he's cute and they're talking to each other they clearly think he's cute and they're like one of the ways he's american like oh he's from new york and one goes um i bet he's jewish i took a look and the other woman's like well that's not very proper

is it just like you know it's it's coming into fashion now a lot of people are doing it and then the doctor walks in and he's like, quite right. And they're like, just talking about how they looked at this man's body while he was comatose. Yeah, this nurse is horny. Horny as hell. She's a dog. Okay. She's a dog.

She's a dog. So, so that all weirdly happens. And then the doctor's like, hey hey you've just woken up you were attacked the police report says that you were attacked by an escaped madman in the woods your friend is dead uh you're lucky you survived and they're like we've notified the your family is in the american embassy um so no one has happened no one thinks this is a werewolf everyone thinks this is a madman an Everyone thinks this is an escaped madman. And the doctor's even like, he must have been very, very powerful because he killed one of you and you got fucked up and it was just one of him.

I can't believe you guys couldn't fight this dude off. They say a lunatic has the strength of 10 men. Who says that? That diagnosis is you're as strong as 10 men. I'm sad to say you're crazy. That's what comes first. Whoa. Wow, this guy's strong.

He must be nuts. He must be nuts. So then David kind of like falls asleep. He like kind of passes out and he dreams of running through the forest. It's like a monster vision, kind of like POV camera, just like sprinting through, like moving very quickly through a forest. He wakes back up and we get a guy from the American embassy comes in, played by Frank Oz, who is a legend in the industry, a director.

He's the voice of Kermit the Frog and Yoda. And he gives this insane performance. And as soon as you started talking, we were like, oh, that's Frank Oz. Yeah, his voice is kind of like theirs. It kind of sounds like K the Frog and Yoda. And he gives this insane performance. And as soon as you started talking, we were like, oh, that's Frank Oz. Yeah, his voice is kind of like theirs. It kind of sounds like Kermit and Yoda. And he gives this insane over-the-top performance where he gets like really mad at David for like, I forget even what it is he's mad about.

Yeah, David gets like upset because his friend is dead. He's like, oh, no, the Collins or whatever his name is, is like, we're going to need, you're going to need to talk to the embassy or the police. You're going to want to come and talk to you and be like, hear what happened. And he's like,

my friend is dead. Like he's really upset. He's been traumatized. He's like, geez. Oh God. Okay. Why are you getting so upset?

Hey, I'm doing my best here. Hey, why are you mad? It's very funny. You're overreacting. Yeah, it is. It's like played to be funny. It's not.

It's like an intentionally funny character choice. And it really works. It's very, very funny. And he's but the doctor, his name is Dr. Hirsch. He tells David he's been unconscious for three weeks. Oh, shit. And David's like, dude, it wasn't a lunatic.

We were not attacked by a person. We were attacked by a fucking wolf. I saw it. And they're very dismissive of it. Is this when the doctor tells him that his wounds were cleaned before? That comes a little bit later, but

yeah, basically at some point, because we do have kind of the same conversation a few times in this movie. Yeah, because Jack is like, or Dave is like, look at these, like a man, this is like a wolf. And he was like, well, your wounds were like tended to before you got into my care. Yeah, when you came here, yes, somebody had like already cleaned and tended your wounds, which is the people in the town did. Yeah, but how would that negate it being a wolf? Because the people... They're like, Yeah. But how would that negate it being a wolf? Because the people. They're like, a wolf wouldn't tend to you.

No, I think he's just saying like, I couldn't see what your original wounds looked like. So I have to go with the story I was given or something. Yeah. It's like he's just like working off of the police report. He does say like, why if they found they founded a man dead, like, why would they lie and say that it was a man when it was a wolf? There's a wolf running around. They're going to want to tell people like so. Yeah, he was like, if there was a monster running around England, we'd know about it.

And there are witnesses. There are like he was like, there are several witnesses, the townsfolk who all told the police that they saw a madman attack you, which we know that that's a lie. We know that the town is covering up because they don't want people sniffing around in the town. It's the secret of this town. And Scotland Yard shows up, which is like, they're like detectives. And everybody knows that, right? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know that. I don't really understand how Scotland Yard works. I think it's like the FBI. Sure. Or is that MI6? MI6. MI5?

That's the spies. That's the CIA. MI6 is spies. MI6 are spies. And Scotland Yard is just... Detectives. Detectives. Detectives.

Something like that. They investigate stuff. And one of them is like clearly a bumbling idiot. He like stumbles. Oh, he like knocks shit over. He's just dumb. And he, David tells them that we were attacked by a wolf and the idiot detective believes him. who's like the alpha doesn't and dismisses it. And so, yeah, we're like building this tension of like nobody believes David when he says that he was attacked by a wolf. He's kind of hopeless. And this is particularly bad because when you're bit by a werewolf, you become a werewolf and he's helpless against what is going to come his way. He also it's really making him feel crazy. He's like, you know, the way that gaslighting does

when you tell someone their experience isn't real, that he's like, but I remember what's going on. Why? How do I remember this thing that isn't true? He starts to think he's losing his sanity and stuff. As he's also having these crazy dreams, he has another dream where he's running naked through the forest, through the moors, and then he's like hunting deer. And then he jumps on a deer and tackles it and then eats it.

And so you see like blood all over his face. He's like eating a deer haunch like a chicken leg. Gross. So then we cut to the nurse who looked at his dick. Her name is Alex. No, she's not the one who looked at his dick. Oh, okay. She's the friend of the nurse who looked at his dick. Her name is Alex. No, she's not the one who looked at his dick. Oh, okay. She's the friend of the nurse who looked at his dick. Got it. Okay, so the non-pervy

nurse, Alex. She's... Alice. Alice? Oh. Get it straight, John. Jeez. I don't know why I felt that, but I think it's Alice. Alice. Okay, Alice. Just said British-y, you know. She's in a... She's a nurse at this hospital. She's working... She has, like like a very tedious job where she

has like work with kids in this like sick unit. She's like dealing with like these little kids. One of them is really, really funny. He just always says no, whatever she says. He just goes, no, no. And it's really cute and funny. But also you could tell she's like bored and lives in tedium at this job. And

David being there, who's this hot American guy who was attacked in this way is like a breath of fresh air to her she thinks he's cute she's attracted to him yeah her name is alex you were right and i was wrong wow oh wow hey that's okay huge huge that's really big of you i'm big i'm big enough to let that go. Thank you so much. Thank you. So Alex really takes a shining to or a shine to David and goes to his room, finds that he isn't like eating his food. He's not hungry.

He isn't taking his pills. We might presume it's because his body is transforming in some way. And so she just she like starts to like be flirty with him. And it's like, you need to eat your food and to get your strength back. Really flirty flirty with him. And he's like, you need to eat your food. You need to get your strength back. Really flirty with him. Yeah. And he's like, I'm not hungry.

And so she's like, how about I feed you? Sexy. Yeah. She sits on the bed with him. She sits on his bed with him next to him and cuts his food. It's like the least sexy thing I can imagine, honestly. Even worse, she slices this piece of meat and dips it in a little bit of mashed potato before she feeds it to him, which I thought was like. Unnecessary. I would do that for myself, but I wouldn't do it for somebody else.

Do you know what I mean? Sure. None of it I would do for someone else unless asked. Yeah. So he like falls asleep again, has another dream. He's running through the woods. He sees himself in his hospital bed in the middle of the woods. And Alex is there treating him. And we cut to a close up of his face and it's like a monster face and it leaps out of the bed. It's like a jump scare. He's like yellow eyes, face all pale, sharp teeth. And then he wakes up again wait so do we think these are actually dreams or is this like he's just blacking out and actually like attacking deer and shit in the middle of the night i think

these are dreams yeah but it's just that like it's his psyche has been affected by what is presumably happening to his body yeah he's like fever, kind of like hallucinations and stuff. As like the wild beast inside of him is like awakening and taking over his dreams. And so the next day, David is continuing to like convince the doctor of what's happening or like what happened to him. And the doctor, Dr. Hirsch is like, dude, I don't know what to tell you, man. The police are satisfied with the report they have. They have it explained. They've closed the case. Like that's when he's like, your wounds were dressed before you got here i just can only operate off of the information that's in front of me

i'm a doctor being an asshole he's not being super dismissive he's just like i don't know why that would be the case uh you've been through a lot this is really traumatizing yeah yeah he does say like you're gonna be discharged in a couple days like please try to keep your sanity like so i don't have to keep you here yeah he's a nice he's a nice doctor dr hirsch so then that night uh david and alex continue to flirt she he's like bored he can't sleep so she's like how about i read a story to you and then she like starts to read this book i forget exactly what it is it's like like a Arthur round table night story or something. And he falls asleep again.

And he dreams that he's at home with his siblings and his parents. And they're like prep cooking dinner. They're watching the Muppets on TV, which is a nice little Frank Oz Easter egg. And then there's a knock on the door. His dad goes to open it. And it's like a bunch of monsters with like crazy monstrous faces in like Nazi military uniforms with little shotguns. And they just they just open fire on his family and shoot everybody in his house.

They blow his house down. They set everything on fire. They cut David's throat. It's like really fucking crazy. And these monsters are crazy looking. And then he wakes up again like, oh, my gosh, I'm freaked out. And Alex is still there. And she's like, oh, you're scared.

Don't worry. Like, I know just the thing. I'll open the windows and let some sunshine in. She opens the curtains and one of the monsters jumps out of the curtains and stabs her a fucking a thousand times. And then he wakes up again. So it's like a fake, a fake out wake up.

It's the craziest dream ever. They're like, these monsters are like goblin face, like huge fucked up teeth. Yeah, they don't look like wolves. They just are like monsters. Just little weird monsters.

It truly like military, like Nazi looking uniforms. Ew. Ew. I hate it. So then the next morning he's eating breakfast and he looks over and suddenly he sees Jack, his friend. Oh no. Who is dead.

Yeah. And his face is like ripped to shreds. His neck is torn open. All practical makeup. He's soaked in blood. It looks really, really good. Yeah, he's like, you know, the world had like ripped his throat open and slashed him across

the face and he looks awful and he's dead and he's like, what's up, David? Can I have some toast? It's really funny. One of the things that they had to cut out to give it not an r rating is he was gonna eat he eat the toast and it was it fell out of his like open throat cavity and they had to cut that out i love how that's like where are the lines here you know

that is something that's gross to see so you know why not take it out take it out um and so jack is jack is like sitting there and he's kind of grumpy he's like man you know they had my funeral and debbie was at my funeral and she went and she slept with mark levine after the funeral because she was so sad you i got fucked over he's like really mad. That's really funny. Yeah. And he's like the way they present is like he's obviously a hallucination that David is having. But other people hear the voices, it sounds like, as he appears. So he's like there's like a sort of magical quality to this that is connected to the werewolf stuff.

And he's like, dude, David, I am undead. Because I died an unnatural death. Yeah. A werewolf killed me. Yeah. He goes like, oh, yeah, it was a werewolf. Like 100% a werewolf attacked. It's a werewolf killed me.

And because of this unnatural death, I am like stuck in limbo. Yeah. I'm going to be forced to wander the earth until the werewolf's bloodline is broken. And guess what? You're the werewolf's bloodline. You need to kill yourself. What? He's basically like, I'm going to be stuck here until you are dead because you're the werewolf now.

Like, I killed the last one until his bloodline is like his like line of progeny is gone. I'm stuck, as is everybody that that werewolf killed. And you need to kill yourself. And guess what? You're going to turn into one. You're going to kill people. You're going to make more of me. So all you got to do, you just have to kill yourself.

Wow. But he says it in like a fun sort of like tongue-in-cheek kind of way it's like a little bit playful but still like there's urgency to this like you're going to turn into a monster you're going to kill people yeah because it's been three weeks since that happened and then some three weeks and a few days at this point so it's like i think he says like the full moon's in two days like two days so yeah you know kill yourself you gotta kill yourself yeah and beware the moon you gotta kill yourself. Yeah. And beware the moon. You gotta kill yourself. Otherwise, this is gonna get worse. Wow.

Okay. I did not see that coming. Alex, the nurse, comes in, finds David crying. He's just had a traumatic vision of his friend who's telling him to kill himself and toast falling out of his throat or whatever. And David's like, I'm a werewolf, Alex. He also says, I will say, like, he does a good job of telling people what he's experiencing. I feel like usually in scary movies, the person who's having visions or trauma, there's sort of like everything's fine.

He's like, I just saw my friend Jack. He's dead. He said we got killed by a werewolf. I'm going to be a werewolf. Like, he's like putting it all out there. Yeah. The world is rejecting the call here. He's totally convinced by this vision.

And he's like, I'm going to become a monster in two days. And this is really bad. And Alex is basically like, well, you're getting discharged from the hospital. Do you have anywhere to stay? You can stay with me. Wow. Because she likes him. He is very scared by this vision, but he also thinks it's just trauma because of what happened.

And like, maybe he's just losing his mind. Yeah. And so she, you know, like any smart young woman would do is invites this guy who she doesn't know who's having manic visions of death and destruction to stay with her. We all do it. We're all in there. So they go to her house. She gives him the tour. She's like, this is the living room.

Here's the bathroom. And here's the bedroom. Ooh. And then they have this like sweet little conversation where she's like, you know, I'm not in the habit of going out and bedding strange American men. Just so you know, I've had seven partners. Seven lovers, she tells him. And three of them were one night stands. And just to put that out there, that's just who I am.

She's very sweet. And then they go and they fuck in the shower. And then they fuck in the bed. And then the next morning. Well, she says, do you want to watch telly while I take a shower? And then they fuck in the shower. He goes like, hmm. And then he just falls in the shower and they fuck.

And they do a weird thing where like, it's not very hot in the shower. He goes like, hmm. And then he just pulls her in the shower and they fuck. And they do a weird thing where like, it's not very hot in the shower. No. But she like keeps like kind of biting his shoulder. I think it's like the filmmaking way of like being like they're having sex without showing anything explicit. Because I guess there was a more explicit version that gets cut. Because, yeah, they're just sort of like holding each other and she's like mouthing his shoulder they're trying to stay on theme too

right it's a werewolf movie let's not forget let's not forget one of the fun things about this movie is like they play a lot with those sort of like meta references to every song that plays is like a song about the moon or wolves or whatever which is great so they wake up the next morning Plays is like a song about the moon or wolves or whatever, which is great.

So they wake up the next morning. He wakes up kind of in the middle of the night to pee. He goes to the bathroom. He takes literally the shortest pee any man has ever taken. No, any human. Yeah. They take it. Because they have the sound effect of it.

And it's truly like done. And he like shuts the medicine cabinet. And in mirror guess what we see jack again but now he's even he's like rotting he's decaying even more time is passing it's a really cool makeup effect like over time he just gets progressively nastier um they talk some more jack's like dude tomorrow night's the full moon you gotta kill yourself before it's too late because like i said you're gonna go and you're gonna kill people and you're gonna make more of me and this shit sucks i fucking hate it i just want to be totally dead uh he goes he goes you'll kill and make other people like me and i'm not having a good time david it's really funny uh so then we cut to dr hirsch the the main doctor from the hospital who uh he's driving to east proctor in his little car he believes something

about david's story he believes that something isn't adding up so he goes to investigate because he's a good guy yeah and he thinks it's weird that the wounds were dressed before. He's like David's story combined with like what he saw. He is sort of like, why would that like why would they have done that? That seems weird. Somebody's not telling me something. Yeah. Great.

So we have an investigator. Yeah. So he goes to the pub, asks about the pentagram. Everybody gets uncomfortable. They stare at him and they're like, the bartender goes, uh, I don't know. It's been there for like 200 years, so we just kind of left it.

So we didn't want to paint over it. They're all doing the worst job. It's like you're being so obvious that something is weird. They're all like, uh, I mean, everything. Nothing's weird here. What are you asking for? I guess it is a, everything. Nothing's weird here. What are you fucking asking for? Oh, I guess it is a pentagram.

It's a pentagram on the wall. It's like very tense and they're very defensive and like everybody's like pretty rude to him. Oh, because Dr. Hirsch says he's like, crazy, what happened here about that lunatic attacking those boys? And they're all like what what happened

and he's like huge news happened right here in this town right that like a boy got killed and anyway i wouldn't know anything about that and then he said he's like i was his i was their doctor i was i tended to the the castle boy and he said something about a werewolf and they're all like and the one guy who looks really really guilty guilty and of troubled by this is like, I gotta go check on my dogs. And the, and the other guy, the like leader,

I was like, they're fine. And he's like, no, I gotta go. And like runs out. Yeah. And then the doctor's like,

goes to the like kind of leader guy who's sitting at a chess board. He's like, do you want to play a, play a match? And the guy's like, no, I don't want to play a match with you. And then the doctor's like, well, I guess I'm going to go then. See ya. And the guy's like, no, I don't want to play a match with you. And then the doctor's like, well, I guess I'm going to go then.

See ya. And so he walks out and he sees the guy who left to go check on his dogs. He's standing in a graveyard staring at him like Oh my god. So the doctor goes over to him and talks to him and the guy goes, that boy's in danger.

There's something wrong with this place. We're making all of them like very Scottish. Yeah. And I think they're mostly British, but it is like that hard British. It's Northern British. It's Northern British. It's Northern British, which sounds, has that. I'm like a big expert on accents.

I really like this accent that you're doing. So I don't know why I stopped it, but just keep going, please. No, I like it. I'm fully in the world. I feel in the world. Yeah. So he's like, that boy's in danger. There's something wrong with this place.

Others are in danger, too. It's not just him. It's almost the full moon. He's going to change and then people are going to change. And then people are going to die. And then. Oh, this is incredible. Yeah. And then he gets cut off.

The chess man steps up and goes, that's enough. That's enough. And then the scared guy just runs away. Runs away, like looking like he's going to fall over the whole time. He does that, like, bent over running where it's like, you're too top heavy, man. You're about to tumble. Yeah. And, like, this whole time I was like, oh, they're gonna kill the doctor. They don't. Then the chess man also

just walks away and the doctor's like, uh, okay. Yeah, I thought they were gonna kill the doctor. It's also very crazy that they let two boys go and get presumably killed by a werewolf to not reveal their secrets. And then this doctor hears the secret and they're like, well, oops. Yeah, it's not a great system. It's crazy

that they've managed to keep this going for 200 years. And also, like, what's the payoff for them? Why would they even want to keep this secret? Don't you want to get rid of the werewolf? Don't you want your werewolf killed? They don't like having a werewolf out there. No, it's not great for anyone.

They're scared of it. Also, it's pretty crazy that they just went out and killed it. And then it's sort of like, oh, so why didn't you just do... They should have just killed David. Yeah, why didn't they kill it earlier? They should have killed David. They also should have killed the werewolf before letting it kill Jack. Like ages ago.

Ages ago. Yeah, they got some explaining to do. They just hide out in this weird pub, which, by the way, has no food every full moon. They all go to this one pub. Also, it's a town entirely populated by men and one bartender who's a woman. Yeah, it's a weird town. It's a weird town. It's a weird town.

It's got kind of a weird energy. It's a weird town. Yeah, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But also, like, I don't know if I liked living in my town and there's a werewolf in it. What's not to like? Yeah, I mean, I guess I'd be like, well, let's keep this secret. Let's keep this secret. Secrets better than change.

So now we cut to the next morning. Alex is going to work andid is going to stay at her place by himself he like walks her outside to say goodbye they're like falling in love with each other they're like really having a great time she says something at one point when he's really freaked out about jack he's that he tells her he saw jack again oh because when he's talking to jack in the middle of the night she wakes up And comes out and is like I heard voices Oh right that's when she hears multiple voices

Which is like part of that magical part I saw Jack again and she Says to him which is the thing that makes me think It's kind of problematic that she's a nurse Because she says to him I either feel Very sad for you Or find you incredibly attractive And it's like oh no Alex

she's really horny for like sad traumatized men it's like she's her own horror movie premise basically of like a nurse who like gets off on like traumatized yeah people being injured and traumatized

and like she's like horny from it it is very strange but she's like she's like horny from it. It is very strange, but she's great. She's like a lovely person. She's great. Well, it's also like 1981 and, you know, there's it's hard for men to show any kind of emotion. Yeah. And she's a caretaking personality. And she's like, she's like, this is an empathetic, sensitive man.

Clearly, he's revealing to me that he's traumatized about his friend's death. Mm hmm. Yeah, but she is turned on by trauma, which is also just like we can just acknowledge that that's strange and strange. So this is the day the full moon is this is going to happen tonight. And so David is she like goes

to work. He goes like kind of hang out in her apartment and but he gets locked out. The door shuts before he can get it And he's like fuck and he turns around And this little dog starts barking at him Like really angrily like a little Tiny little dog is like barking its little Face off at him

Because it smells something With him right he's the dog Is like this dude's fucked up And the dog is being Walked by these two Fucking freaky little girls They just laugh and laugh That the dog is barking at him

What? They're really weird They look like those Shining Twins kind of They do Weird They're credited We paused the movie at this point So we could feed our cats or something

And they're credited as Creepy girl number one And creepy girl number two Yeah Great But those are just like human girls walking around. It's just like a nice touch.

It's adding to the ambiance of the movie. So David's like, well, fuck, I gotta climb up to get in through a window or something. So he climbs up. There's a cat on the windowsill and the cat hisses at him big time. Which, oh, trivia is they got that cat to hiss by holding up another cat to its face.

That makes sense. Speaking from experience, that would work. That's very funny. Great strategy there. So he, but he gets inside and then he's like, it's, I think this is a really great sequence because then it's just a sequence about a dude staying at somebody's apartment who he kind of doesn't

totally know in England. He doesn't have anything to do and he's just fucking bored as shit. And the song Bad Mood Rising is playing. It's a great musical hit. And so he's just kind of wandering around listlessly. It's no Mouth by Bush. It's no Mouth by Bush, which is a true. Well, and technically on that soundtrack,

it's a remix of the original Mouth song. The remix, I would argue. Fucking sound off in the comments, fans, if you're with me on this. The remix from that soundtrack is better than the original Bush song. I would argue. Hot take. But they remixed their own song. So it's not like a digital remix.

Whoa, I got lost. I got lost in that train of thought. The remixes on the remixes. Fans, sound off in the comments, which version of Mouth is better? The one off of 16 Stone? Do we like the original Mouth by Bush or the remix of Mouth by Bush? Or do we like the American Werewolf in Paris soundtrack? You know what side I fall on?

What side do you fall on? Okay. Okay. So he's wandering around with this really, you know, the I see a bad moon rising that song. And don't go out tonight. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's called Bad Moon Rising. I honestly don't know.

But, you know, the song. And he's as he's like wandering around, he's like, obviously, like the full moon is on his mind. He's as he's like wandering around, he's like, obviously, like the full moon is on his mind. He when he like walks past the mirror, he like does like a jokey snarl in it. Or he like looking at his teeth like, are they things yet? Are they big? Am I scary? Where he's like clearly anxious, but trying to kind of like joke himself into feeling calm about everything because he doesn't know what to believe at this point. Feeling calm about everything. Cause he doesn't know what to believe at this point. Yeah.

I mean, to be fair, you shouldn't just kill yourself because you have a vision of somebody telling you to, you know? So I'm, I'm with him on that. That is sort of like,

what am I going to kill myself? Like, I don't know that I need to do that. What am I going to do? Yeah. Like that tension is great, but it's also just this bit, but now seeing if a guy pacing around an apartment,

he keeps, he's still not hungry. He opens the fridge a couple of times to get some food. And he's like, I'm not hungry. Then he's like, he's still not hungry he opens the fridge a couple times to get some food he's like i'm not hungry then he's like i'm still not hungry he might have his hunger satisfied with something else yeah he might have his hunger satisfied with something else that's a great point that's a great point this is also just like a nostalgic time for me even though i didn't i wasn't alive in 1981 but just like the idea of ever being bored like anywhere

like even now like if you were like yeah gonna turn into a werewolf, you would just be like scrolling the shit out of TikTok. A werewolf scrolling on TikTok. You would like not just be like not participate, like you would be participating in some kind of content or technology. Well, I also was like, dude. You'd be playing video games. You're in Europe.

You're in London. Go walk around London. Go sightseeing. Go sightseeing. I mean. Go round the pub. You're in London. Go walk around London. Go sightseeing. Go sightseeing. I mean. Go round the pub. Go round the pub. Go round the pub.

Have chips. Get on the tube. Get on the tube. That's a great point, too. So then we cut to the hospital. Alex is with that little kid who keeps saying no all the time. It's very cute. And the camera pans up.

And what do you know? It's night. And And the camera pans up. And what do you know? It's night. And the full moon is out. And we cut back to David at Alex's apartment. He's sitting in a chair. Just sort of like sitting there being bored. Wishing TikTok existed. Yeah.

And then all of a sudden he just starts to scream in agony. Oh, God. Agony, agony, agony. And he's like sweating. And it. Oh, agony, agony, agony. And he's like sweating. And it's like, oh, I'm so hot. And he says he starts like rip his clothes off. He's just like, oh, I fucking what's happening?

And he begins to transform into a werewolf. And it is I this is it's my second favorite werewolf transformation. I think that the best werewolf transformation is in the movie Fright Night, the original. Also, the howling, which is one you guys should do, has some really great werewolf transformation. I think that the best werewolf transformation is in the movie Fright Night, the original. Also, the howling, which is one you guys should do, has some really great werewolf stuff. But this one is incredible. It's like... It starts with his hands, and his

hands stretch. The palm gets really, really long, and then the fingers curl over. Is this the seven-second cut? This is one of those shots. The seven second shot is in this transformation. Yeah, but they like really show it.

His hand like stretches out like and then he like falls to the floor and his torso stretches and like hair starts to grow out of him. His spine gets all like sharp and he's like flopping back and forth. they do like really clever practical effects work and like the way they like have him move to like move the camera to create a cut to

use this body part to you and then use that then they do don't show his penis don't show his don't show his penis then they do then he gets the seven seven second shot which is his face so basically they like built a practical model of his face but uh inside is like a mechanical system that stretches a snout out oh cool so it's like it's like you can you can see and you hear like the sound of like bones kind of popping is like it's like snout and mouth like stretch out long and his teeth get like. I bet there's a YouTube of just this transformation and we should link it because it's it's really cool. It's incredible. It's amazing. And it's just like it looks so fucking painful and he's screaming and it's awful and it's so sudden.

It just like hits. It makes me so sad because like what really would have been ideal is if he had a fucking like knife handy for the second it starts you know that's when you kill yourself yeah when you're like oh fuck it's happening but it's like it's our you know but yeah it hit him so fast like he's just in agony and like he's in pain and

so he transforms and all of a sudden we've got a fucking freaky ass fucking werewolf it's a scary actually scary yeah it looks scary it looks like really savage and cruel and wild and like inhuman it's not like a guy standing it's like a literally like a crouched over on all fours wolf type thing a big broad and big and also like being in the apartment still makes it scarier. Yeah. If they were like in a field, it would be

less. Yeah, he's in a he's in the city. He's in a big city. He's in America. He's in a lady's apartment, which I don't not like. Yeah. So then we so the transformation is complete. We cut to shots of London at night and

a wolf howl descends and cascades over London. And we know some shit's about to go down and, and it hasn't though. How has an American accent because this is of course an American werewolf in London. It doesn't have a British howl. Genius. Genius. Were you waiting to say that? That one just came to me it's pretty good right could you howl to the british you guys are getting ripped pieces in this episode i'm sorry

so um so now we go to it's like a series of shots of people getting fucking wasted by the werewolf so a couple gets it's like a couple that we don't know they get out of a cab they're clearly in love. They're like hanging on each other. They're going to a dinner party at a friend's house. They like walk through a park to get there. They get fucking attacked by the werewolf. It rips into pieces, blood everywhere.

It's very violent and nasty. Then we cut to Dr. Hirsch meets with Alex and he's basically at this point like something's definitely up. I don't know if he's a werewolf, but I think maybe there's some at this point, like something's definitely up. I don't know if he's a werewolf, but I think maybe there's some sort of mass delusion that's happening. Like he experienced this trauma. He was told that a, a, like a psychopath attacked him and that, and that like the werewolf mythology of like, when you get attacked by a werewolf, you become a werewolf. I'm worried that he's believing that he's becoming a psychopath and he's going to start attacking and hurting people tonight that's what i'm worried about that begins

yeah so he calls alex's house no answer and they're like fuck this is bad so then we cut to this um this like homeless encampment there's these three homeless guys uh they have a dog with them the dog starts barking the dog runs away They look out like what's going on, what's out there. Boom. They get attacked. Werewolf kills all of them. And we don't really see the full attacks happening. We like hear the wolf.

We sort of see it come up on them, but we don't see the full. Apparently the wolf attacking those three homeless men was also cut out to make it R rated. Apparently it was really, there was a really gnarly attack sequence. Yeah. And they do like a really effective job because they shoot with the practical effects really smart where it's like really quick cuts, really close shots of like its eyes, its mouth, its teeth, like that kind of stuff to like sell it to you without giving your eye

the time to like pick apart any of the design or whatever. It's really well done. Then we go to a subway station, the tube, a tube, excuse me, the tube and this rich guy, at least I think he's rich. Cause he's wearing a tie. I don't know. He's really posh. He's like really posh. So he steps off of the tube and he senses something. So this one's like an extended scene.

And he's like, look around. He like, here's something. And he goes, I can assure you that this is most unamusing. Oh, he sounds posh too. He goes, I will be reporting this. Like to who? He then gets hunted down. He's like, starts to get scared.

It's like kind of slashery movie style. Where like, he's like running down the corridors of the subway, looking behind him, wondering what it it is then he sees the wolf around the corner you don't see it but you see him see it and he like freaks out and it's like oh my god and he starts to run he runs to an escalator he falls over on it and as it's like going up we all see the werewolf step out from like the shadows basically it looks really fucking scary it's like crawling on all fours a big beefy wolf running up to the guy then we cut and we do like a really fun smash cut to a lion roaring like and then you see a tiger and then monkeys and

zoo animals and you're like oh we're at a zoo and david now in human form uh is waking up naked in the wolf enclosure the next morning and the wolves are all very nice to him and because they get it and he's like fucking he wakes up doesn't remember anything he's naked and you know caged with wolves and he gets up and um protects his penis from the wolves who are trying to smell it this is a fun moment where he's naked for a while in this next sequence and he gets up and protects his penis from the wolves who are trying to smell it. This is a fun moment where he's naked for a while in this next sequence, and he's like covering up his penis sometimes and then sometimes not because he just needs to like run. And so you do actually get I was like, oh, they're not going to show it. He's going to be covering it.

And then he takes his hands away and runs. You're like, well, there it is. Yeah. So he's like running through this zoo like I got to get some fucking clothes on or I got to cover myself. So he's like running through this zoo. Like I got to get some fucking clothes on or I got to cover myself. One of the tactics he does is he hides in a bush and there's this little British boy holding balloons and he's from the bush. He goes, Hey, little kid, little boy, come over here, which is great.

The zoo is open. So we're in the zoo is open. It's early morning, but the zoo is open. And he's like little boy. And the boy's like, who are you? And he goes, i'm the balloon thief uh give me your balloons and the kid goes no and he goes i'll give you two pounds for the i'll give you a pound for the balloons he goes no and then he goes i'll give you two pounds for the balloons

and then the little kid goes why would the famous balloon thief offer me two pounds for my balloons which is very it's a great joke the kids kids are winning this film, by the way. Yeah, the kids are winning it. Roasted in the sky. Oh, you're a thief and you're offering me money for my object? I don't think so. I don't think so. So eventually he steals the balloons from the kid. You get a funny shot of him like running, using balloons to cover

his dick. Then he, it's like, then you get like one of those, like a wide shot where he runs in one side of frame all the way through and out the other side of frame. and he steals this old lady's coat and the little boy the little boy walks up to his mom and goes we cut to he goes a naked american man stole my balloons yeah and then his mom goes what so then we get like a fun little sequence of shots of him like in london in this coat with nothing else on just like naked legs in this lady's like slim little coat with a big fur

collar it's very funny as he's like trying to get home and british people are saying i'm like what the fuck is wrong with this guy and he goes lovely weather we're having right it's it's fun and then but simultaneously the the dr hirsch is walking around and he walks past a newspaper stand and on the newspaper uh headline is madman or monster question mark uh victims found half eaten so there's like news reports of six people were found over the course of that night mutilated just eaten nasty. And David comes home. Alex is there. She's like, where have you been? What's going on? He's like, oh, I'm fine. Actually, I feel great. I'm feeling really, really good. He's like light. My body feels lovely. He's like, I've never felt stronger.

He does say I woke up in the Wolf enclosure. He's like crazy thing. I don't remember anything that happened last night, but I did wake up naked in the Wolf enclosure, but I feel good. And she is like, okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm horny for you. She's loving it. And they're like hanging out, hanging out in bed. He's getting kind of horny and the, and Dr. Hirsch calls and Alex answers. And he's like, dude, you need to, you need to bring David into the hospital now. I'm really worried. And David's like, dude, I feel, and she's like, okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go's go uh the doctor's like should i send a car she's like no we'll get a cab so they walk out they go to hail cab david's like dude i feel fucking awesome right now my body feels so good better than it has in years which is very funny for a guy who's in college to say

uh it's like get into cab the cabbie's like oi in the cab, the cabbie's like, oi, did you hear about the murders last night? And David's like, what murders are you talking about? And he's like, oh, six people

found mutilated all over London. Makes you think of the demon Barbara Fleet Street. Yeah. So this, cabbie's a big

musical fan. And then, and then Sweeney Todd begins from this point forward. So then, but David's like, the minute he says it, David's memory comes back to him. He's like, oh, fuck, dude.

No, I don't think his memory comes back. He just goes, it must have been me. He goes like, oh my God, it was the full moon. I can't remember what I did. I blacked out. There are six dead people around. Yeah. And then, so he has a freak out.

He's like, Jack was right. It was true. It's all true. He jumps out of the cab, runs into like a square, like a public square and tries to get a cop to arrest him. He's like, please arrest me, dude. I'm the one who says I did it. Yeah, I did it. And the cops like, shut the fuck up.

Get out of here. Like you're being weird. Go away. And he's like, please arrest me, please. And the cops like, stop causing a scene, man. All right. And so David starts being like screaming being like screaming like fuck the queen's a man and he's like just fucking what can i do to make you arrest me and i'm like fucking cop dude yeah it's easy you hit him or you hit a regular do anything i get arrested with

one hand tied behind my back i can get arrested easy easy but the bobby of course won't do it and so uh eventually he um he kind of he like runs away and he runs away from alex he's like i i can't be around you i don't want to hurt anybody anymore i i gotta take care of this basically leave me alone i'm out of here and he runs away and alex is like fuck this is bad and so we cut to alex's with dr hirsch and those two detectives from scotland yard and they're like i don't know what's going on i don't know if he killed those people but he's going to try to hurt himself at the very least and the detectives are like yeah look you have a missing person situation we will find him like all the other shit we'll deal with when we need to, but we'll, we're going to go out and we're going to find them. Don't worry.

We cut to David is now at those little red phone booth calling home and he's talking to his little sister and he's like, just tell mom and dad that I love them. And I love you. And, and don't fight with our other sibling. I forget his name. Just like, be good. I love you and and don't fight with uh our other sibling i forget his name just like be good i love you and please promise me that you'll tell mom and dad that i love them and she's like and then he hangs up and he pulls out a little swiss army knife and and that would never the tiniest little looks very dull dull knife any but he goes and he like puts it to his wrist and he's gonna like cut his wrist in this phone booth and kill himself so he doesn't do this again because in this world it's the full moon for more than one night yeah it's gonna be the full moon again which i guess it's still like

pretty full i guess yeah there's a margin he probably can't live with the knowledge that he's yeah but but we are like yeah we know that it's gonna happen again yeah he he's like i'm gonna turn to the monster tonight. Oh, tonight. Oh, oh. Which is weird. Yeah, there's two nights of full moon. But yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Maybe that happens sometimes. Well, it's mostly full. He's rounding it up. When I only get to eat once a month, the moon is mostly full. Yeah, and who are we to question the stars? Exactly. Exactly. That's what I've been trying to say.

Exactly. Exactly, Henley. Exactly. stars exactly exactly that's what i've been trying to say this exactly exactly exactly so he tries to kill himself and he can't bring himself to do it he's he's scared and we know they wouldn't have worked it wouldn't have worked anyway and so uh he looks across the street and there's fucking jack again but now he's like super rotten we're like his eyeballs are like just like round balls in his face his skull is visible through his skin like dark dark green he's like foul the last time we saw him he was green now he's like really dark green and just disgusting looking yeah and he walks into an adult, like a porno theater in Piccadilly. Yeah. Like we were talking about those porno theaters and it is just a bunch of

single men sitting in there and it seems really weird. Yeah. Watching porn. And, and he like beckons to, to David to follow him in. So he goes in and there's a really funny porno playing that it's so funny. Like shot for this, where there's a running bit throughout this porno. Like that happens periodically over the course of the remaining time of the movie of like,

there's their sex just keeps getting interrupted by very banal things. And that's just the bit of this porno. Like a guy, a big scary guy. Like it's like this guy and a girl they're having sex and then this big giant scary guy with a huge mustache walks in and it's like hey you said you wouldn't you wouldn't do this again and it's like oh he's either gonna like fight this dude it's gonna be a three-way and the woman basically says like oh oh that wasn't me that wasn't me and he goes oh okay sorry And he goes, oh, OK, sorry.

And then he just walks out like it's it's very weird and funny. Wait, what is this? What is the shot here? Is it like you can see the audience and then the porno? Yeah. And the screen cuts into the porno like you see it on the screen. At one point, the phone rings and they answer it like wrong number and like hang up and I keep having sex.

It's a great bit that like it would be hard to sell it on the page, but it really works. It's very funny. So they're sitting in this theater talking and Jack is like, I fucking told you, David, that this was going to happen. And now you didn't listen to me

and you've fucking created more unnatural deaths, more people stuck just like me. And I fucking brought him, David. They're here. And he points and he goes, he's like, that's the couple you killed in the park. Their names are such and such. And they we cut to a shot of this couple, bloody, fucked up, nasty. And he's like, there's the there's these guys that you killed, the three homeless men that we saw earlier.

And he names them. They're all fucked up. And then he points to the rich guy and they all start to scold him. Like, you fucking asshole. You made my wife a widow. You made my kids lose their father. Like, fuck you, you asshole. You should fucking kill yourself.

And there's also a really funny line where David is like, I can't believe I'm I have it written down. I can't believe I'm in a porno theater in Piccadilly Circle talking to a corpse. Anyway, so then we have this fun but very darkly comic scene of all these dead ghosts pitching ideas for how David could kill himself.

You could cut your wrists. You could shoot yourself. One of them goes, sleeping pills. And one of the homeless guys goes, too uncertain and then uh and then the rich guy's like and if you shoot yourself with a gun put in your mouth that way it'll definitely work and then and then one of the homeless guys goes drown and then they just cut out of that scene it's really funny and uh oh and when we're talking about the gun david's like a gun okay like but like do i like need like a silver bullet or something for

that and jack goes uh jack goes be serious david for god's sake so then we cut to an external shot it's night the full moon's back out we cut back into the theater and david transforms once more inside the theater while the porno is playing and it does this really great shot where like he like it hits him he like spasms and like tenses up he like grips the chair in front of him and then we cut to a close-up of his hand and claws shoot out from his finger like under his fingernails like bloody nasty claws it looks like we were so fucking bad and from here on out we're like going into chaos land we're like so much chaos yeah he like transforms into a wolf inside of a porno theater while the partner was

playing doing that weird bit where people keep interrupting the sex and they just return to it and he kills the people in the theater and the people the person who like runs the theater notices it and calls the cops the cops show show up. They like pull the like gate, the grate down or no, the cops run in, see David, see the werewolf, like standing over a disemboweled corpse.

There's like guts everywhere. And the wolf is like snarling over it. And the cops like, Oh fuck. And he runs out. They close the grate of the theater and they're standing out there. More cops come, more people are coming.

People keep crowding around the cops like, get out of here. And people just are swarming like, what's going on? This sounds, this seems crazy. They try to like lock him inside. The crowd is like screaming, going crazy. The Scotland Yard guys show up. And then all of a sudden, so you know how like it's like the garage door close of like when a business is closed.

That's what they've done to try to lock him in. All of a sudden, the world jumps jumps through it jumps out of it and bites the mean scotland yard detective's head right off and like and just rips his head off the head goes rolling and then uh the wolf uh kind of runs off and then so it's piccadilly circus so there's all these cars and traffic and then all of a sudden people start freaking out because they saw of what they just saw. And then these cars start crashing into each other. The amount of chaos that ensues is unbelievable.

Cars are crashing into each other. People are flying out of the cars. Then they're getting run over by other cars. Like there's like a shot of like a guy gets crashed. He flies out of the windshield, then gets run over by another car. Then other cars crash into that car. Other people fly out of their windshields.

Other people get run over. A bus crashes into everything. It's full tilt, chaos, blood everywhere. A higher body count from the traffic laws of Piccadilly Circus than this fucking werewolf. Oh, big time. This is making me think about all the action movies where there's so much collateral damage with all of those traffic. Like anytime it's a car fight, there's so many cars running into each other. Yeah. Car fight. Crazy. We never see bodies flying out of those cars.

Like are those cars not occupied by anyone? Like where are the bodies? You know, show me the bodies. Show me those bodies. So now the cops are like chasing this werewolf through London, like through the alleys and through the streets and cities. the cops are like chasing this werewolf through London, like through the alleys and through the streets and cities. And they finally corner him and like a SWAT team. I don't know what you call a SWAT team in England, but they it's like a bunch of guys with big like machine guns show up and they all line up aim on David, the werewolf in this alley. And then all of a sudden Alex pushes through them. Alex and Dr. Hirsch have shown up and they're like, oh god because they see all this chaos like it must be david yeah and so she pushes past these guys with their guns and approaches david and she's like david please let me help you

like i know that's what she thinks she's good i don't know she's known this dude for like three fucking days also help you how he's a fucking werewolf yeah she's like i know you're in there i can help you i love you i love you david and because he tells her that he loves her when he runs away initially um and she's like i love you too like i want to help you and we cut to the wolf and he's like snarling snarling and he tenses up and then he jumps he like leaps at alex it like yeah it seems like he maybe has a moment of recognition, but then no. He leaps to attack her, but then all the spot guys shoot.

They open fire, and we cut to a shot of David, now back to human mode, naked, riddled with bullet holes, dead, and Alex is screaming and crying, and we look back at David laying dead, naked in the street, and we cut the end.

And then Blue Moon starts playing. Blue Moon. Yeah, sing it. He saw me standing alone. And that's it. Incredible that they did not shoot her. Like I thought for sure she was like, they just opened fire in the direction

where she's standing. The fact that they didn't also catch her was pretty impressive. Yeah, and it's like a really jarring end. It just ends. Wait, is it cut to black roll credits or is it credits over him? Cut to black. Wow. It's a really jarring end and like, I think very

effective because you're like, right, this wasn't going to end well. There's no way around it. We got to listen to the stars. This was not going to end. Who are we to think that we can question the stars? We cannot. We cannot. That's what this movie is about. That's what I got from it anyway. Absolutely. Holy shit. There it is. Confusing. I felt confused in my heart whether to think this was funny or scary. I didn't know which one. Sort of both. I mean, I know it's a horror comedy, but like truly during the retelling, I kept wanting to laugh when like maybe I felt like maybe I shouldn't.

You know, I was I didn't know I was conflicted. It does have a rather light tone. It's like very light, but really dark. Like it's for how like light and fun it is. They're like rationale of, hey, there, it, the like rationale of, Hey man, kill yourself is like, it's really dark.

Yeah. But they are sort of playing it lightly. So it's, you know, it is confusing. Yeah. I think the movie wants you to laugh at every place you thought about laughing.

Cause it's like very much playing with the, the tension of how dark that content is how doomed this character is and uh how lightly they want to present it and like you know pitching ways for him to kill himself is like meant to be really funny and it is um yeah it's it's really great i mean john landis knocked it out of the park yeah we are you know in support of john landis in this moment we don't support support him for the entirety of his career. But right now, we're feeling okay about it. I had no preconceived notions of this movie.

I really enjoyed hearing everything about it. I'm glad I know about it now. Now that you guys have seen it, had you seen it before? Joel had. I had not. Okay. How was it for a rewatch? How was it for the first time for both of you?

From a rewatch, I liked it as much as I liked it the first time I watched it. I think it's such a good movie. I love, love this movie. It's funnier, I think, than I remembered it being. I remembered it being like slightly scarier than this but um or like rather this time i i interpret it more as like swinging as a comedy uh but that's about the only difference that i i noticed i think it's just such a it's like a classic yeah it's really good i think it's like absolutely people who want a scary ish movie but are too scared can totally do it.

I think it would have been a little scarier had I watched it at night in the dark and like really let myself lean into that scary part because the, like the violent parts are really brutal and like the transformation is really cool. But in general, it's not like scary to watch. Yeah. The effects are so, so good.

And like, we got to show you that, that transformation scene. I want to see that. Okay. So Sammy and I just did a bonus episode where she showed me clips from horror movies. And I would like to add this to the list for the next time we do that, because I'd like to see this. Unlike some of the clips she chose, which I wish I hadn't seen. But this I'm curious about. This one, this one you can handle.

Yeah. And no kid stuff in this one. No kid stuff. This is a nice break for you. The kids all are good and cute and fun and having a good time. Funny kids get in the upper hand. A little bit of hijinks, a lot of laughs. And some balloons. Wow. Thank you guys

for so much. I enjoyed that thoroughly. Thank you to Joel. Doing all the work for me. So happy to be back. I love you guys. Proud of you guys. Sammy, I miss you so much. I can't wait to hear you back on the pod.

You're irreplaceable. I just think you guys are the best. Oh, that's very nice. Should we howl as our goodbye? A British accent. I also

how how do you what's British? Oh, I'll be like the people in the pub. Oh, how do you, what's British? Ho, ho. I'll be like the people in the pub, right? They're sort of like, right, there's nothing here about the werewolves. We got no food here.

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