Too Scary; Didn't Watch - BLACK CHRISTMAS

Episode Date: December 23, 2020

Sorority sisters, prank phone calls, and a scene stealer of a fur coat - we're recapping the 1974 holiday slasher Black Christmas! So curl up with us next to the fireplace (ideally within arm...s length of the fire poker) and let's get into the holiday spirit with some good old fashioned murder. Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, it's time to do our favorite thing ever, which is to shout out our patrons. And we're doing this in reverse. We already recorded the freaking episode. Guys, you're going to love it. It's so great. It's so great. Oh, you're going to love it. Sammy knocks it out of the park this week, you guys.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Surprise, surprise. Sammy knocks it out of the park yet again. And a group of people who probably they want to be out of a park because they want to be out in the water. Nice. Perfect transition. Nice. They're our newest vessel heads, and they deserve to be shouted out. They are Tara Fee, Killian Walsh, Katie Ann Christoffel, Samantha
Starting point is 00:00:45 Klaus, and Morgan Younts. My goodness. Welcome. Thank you for being here. Welcome. We love you. Thank you so much for joining us. And similarly, we have a few new members of Tony fucking Collette's Inner
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Starting point is 00:01:17 we love you endlessly we love you unconditionally forever forever sit back. Sit back and listen to this episode where Sammy knocks it out of the park. And it starts right now. And it starts right now.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Now. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy. And you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily. I'm glad to be back and I am too scared to watch scary movies. We're so happy you're back, Emily. We missed you so much last week. I'm Henley and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy and I like watching scary movies and I like when Emily is here with us.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Oh my gosh, you guys. You know, missed it i missed i missed being here so badly last week i part of the reason i part of the reason why i stuck to not doing it is be simply precisely because it was so hard for me i was like no you need to be okay with this you need to have a healthy boundary where you can miss one and it's okay but i didn't like it yeah emily you've only missed you've only missed one that was your first one was my first one it was tough you guys it was tough but i also it was such a treat to listen to then i just got to listen to my friends to do our podcast but um did you get how i got where i was like wanting to chime in when i was listening to mama and attack
Starting point is 00:03:01 the block i like felt like i could i felt like it was live and I was like my brain wasn't understanding that I was like I wanted to talk about those things you're like I've thought opinions about HP Lovecraft I hated Color Out of Space I already told you guys I hated it oh I hated
Starting point is 00:03:20 hearing about it yeah it was a gross one you're not a fan of body horror no no I didn't like the things that happened in that movie at all hearing about it. Yeah. It was a gross one. You're not a fan of body horror. No. No, I didn't like the things that happened in that movie at all. So. Yeah. That was like the definition
Starting point is 00:03:30 of body horror, too. Yeah. There's a lot of really gross body stuff, but adorable alpacas. I mean, that's fun. Up until a point. And then they got gross, too.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And then gross. And then gross. Well, what's up with us this week? Well, this episode comes out just two days before the most important day of the year, which is Henley's birthday. Yes, it is. Forget what you thought about December holidays, because the most important one is Henley's freaking birthday. Yeah, it's not your birthdays. It's my birthday. No, it's Henley's birthday.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It's the most important day of the year. It also happens to be Christmas Day. What day? Who cares? Sometimes it gets a little overshadowed by this other holiday we're all familiar with. Yeah, I'm going to be 31 years old, you guys. What a stupid age. 31, right? You're really not happy about being 31.
Starting point is 00:04:23 I've already talked about how I hate the age 31. Last week you did, yeah. Did I talk about it last week? Jesus Christ. I think it's a beautiful age. Yeah, it's a perfectly fine age. You know, it's a whatever age. It's the age that you are.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Age is just a number, baby. Whether you like the number or not. It's just a number, baby. But I got to say say I am having a birthday on Christmas has been a real roller coaster throughout my life like when I was a little kid when I was a little kid I fucking loved it because I just like thought yeah everyone always assumed I hated it they would be like oh that's my suck but I loved it because the day always felt like extra special yeah even though it was like not extra special for me necessarily.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But like it felt like that to me. And I never had to go to school. And there was always like a big party. It's always a holiday. It's always. Yeah. You're always eating good food. You're always having.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was always like the house is decorated. We have the tree. Like it always felt like super extra special. You're never getting jury duty on your birthday. Yeah, exactly. And then I entered. Which as a kid you loved. I was like, you were like,
Starting point is 00:05:40 no jury duty for me. No civic duty on my birthday. Oh my God. I would wish I was that cool as a kid. That would be amazing. No, but then I entered my like teen years. And then I have to say, I started to get super emo about my birthday, like really emo on my birthday, like would be super, like wanted to be with my friends and could never be with my friends and like hated it and like would be like grumpy about the presents I got and was like such an asshole. Like, God, I look back on that and I'm like, I feel so bad for my parents. But now that I'm a healthy 31, I feel like completely indifferent about my birthday. So I think I've reached a good place. There we go. But what about you guys?
Starting point is 00:06:20 How's your week? Well, speaking of birthdays, as we did a little shout, you guys did a sweet little shout out. It was our horror respondent. I think of him first as the podcast's horror respondent. Number one. Second as my boyfriend who I love.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So it's his birthday and we did a little like at home bar crawl. It was so cool, Emily. It was so fun. What you set up was crawl. It was so cool, Emily. What you set up was amazing. I was so impressed by you. I mean, all we did was just have drinks in different rooms of his apartment. It's very sweet that you're impressed.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I mean, I put thought into it, but it mainly was just like, you know, we can't do anything. L.A. has become the epicenter of the entire coronavirus pandemic. So we were really locking it down. But it was a fun way to be like, oh, we can maybe let's just try something different and just be in different. We never hang out in his office. Why would we ever hang out in his office? But it really was fun. And it just reminded me.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Obviously, it's, you know, a relatively privileged point of view to be like, here's the fun you can have. But given that this is where we all are, it is interesting to explore those boundaries. And I really had quite a nice time, though I did miss being here very much. But that's still I'm still sort of riding high on that. It was and I learned how to make some new cocktails. I mean, it's great. The best.
Starting point is 00:07:48 That being said, get me the vaccine and get me to a fucking bar as soon as possible. I feel the same way. I'm feeling super cabin-fever-y these days. Yeah, and you're even aware it's cold, so that's got to be worse. Yeah. Oh, that should have been my
Starting point is 00:08:04 thing. It snowed like a foot you should there's no should henley except that's the weather and that's boring i'm not gonna talk about the weather um but sammy don't you talk about the weather but what's up with you fuck what do i talk about um uh not a lot i have been working a lot um i thought i would just say a a thank you to my mother who has been babysitting my cats for this past three months that i've been gone and she's not a big animal person in general and she has really fallen in love with my cats and in a in a very big way and it's really cute and i'm just happy that they all are able to keep each other company that's very sweet it's very sweet especially because your boys are really shy boys they're very shy boy they're they're loving
Starting point is 00:08:59 ones they have to like really get to know i feel like they're the kind of cats that people who don't like cats are like oh this is what cats are like like they're just they're pretty boring at first you gotta really get to know them for them to open up and i do have a favorite cat it's bunk and my mom's favorite is also bunk i hope mac doesn't listen to this if you're listening you you're Jenna's favorite. There you go. But yeah, just thank you to my mom. And I won't be seeing them for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So it brings me some happiness that they'll be together. Oh, yeah. That is good. Well, your mom will have to visit your cats a lot then when you're back. Yeah, don't steal my cats mom what if she steals them i'll be mad i'll be mad um but okay so speaking of christmas and the holidays and henley's birthday another thing that happens on henley's birthday is obviously christmas sure we've heard and so for this week's movie we are doing black christmas this was actually uh we did a little poll on the
Starting point is 00:10:11 instagram right we did rare exports versus this this one it was a landslide landslide yeah landslide landslide um i did say last week that i was home alone in a big house and that I didn't want to do anything too scary. So I wasn't thrilled that you guys picked this one. Because it's scarier than Rare Exports? I don't know anything about Rare Exports. I haven't seen Rare Exports, but I think it's much sillier. Anyways, Black Christmas came out in 1974. Came out in 1974.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It is directed by Bob Clark, written by Roy Moore, starring Olivia Hussey, Keir D'Elia, Margot Kidder and John Saxon. And Black Christmas is available on, you guessed it, Shudder. Shudder. So is now a good time to talk about how I watched the wrong Black Christmas? Yeah, yeah. I think now is a good time to talk about how I watched the wrong Black Christmas? Yeah, yeah. I think now is a good time to talk about it, Henley. So, Sammy, you really should have made the same mistake I did and watched the 2019 version of Black Christmas because it was not scary at all. It was like so ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It was pretty, I mean, it was pretty entertaining for what it was, but definitely, definitely not scary. I just was at home and I searched on my TV Black Christmas and it was the first one that popped up. And I was like, I guess this is the one we're watching. So it's on HBO. You don't have to pay for it if you have HBO. You don't have to pay for it if you have HBO. You don't have to have Shudder. And anywho, it wasn't until after I watched the movie that I realized that, oh, there's a 1974 version, which is definitely the one we were supposed to watch. There's actually three versions. There's a 2006 version as well, which I didn't even know about until, yeah, until yesterday or Friday when I watched this and was looking at the IMDb.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But yeah, I've heard both. Both remakes are apparently quite bad. The original is good. I liked it a lot. And I just also wanted to point out that this is our 69th episode. Oh, yeah, baby. That's super cool. Thank you
Starting point is 00:12:20 for flagging that, Sammy. Merry freaking Henley's birthday. Okay, we're going to have to make as many 69 jokes throughout this podcast then as humanly possible. This movie is full of 69. Yeah. Start to finish. Hello, friends.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It is time for cocktail hour. And this we are drinking a christmas margarita to make a christmas margarita you will need one and a half ounces of tequila two-thirds an ounce of triple sec a third an ounce of falernum liqueur two-thirds an ounce of lime juice a half an ounce of cranberry juice and four drops of different margarita bitters you will shake all ingredients with ice and fine strain into a chilled coupe glass garnish with an orange zest twist and a rosemary sprig cheers i did look up some trivia for this one, the 1974 original. So here are some highlights. Legend has it that this was Elvis Presley's favorite horror movie.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Oh, my God. And it was a tradition for him to watch it every Christmas. I mean, he died in 1977. I was going to say, this is like not every Christmas. Three Christmases. But rumor says that his family kept the tradition alive and they watch it every year in his memory so the presleys are watching it um now nowadays totally um this film is regarded as being one of the first slasher films um and it set out the
Starting point is 00:14:02 layout for films such as Halloween. But the director, Bob Clark, considered it to be more of a psychological horror film. Also, Black Christmas was originally inspired by real life murders that occurred in Montreal. See, this is why I didn't look up trivia. This is why I made Henley look up trivia. I know. Do you not want me me to not even go into detail here? No, you can. You can. Because now I've had enough time between watching the movie.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Okay. Okay. Well, there's not much detail. It's basically, it's likely based on the Canadian serial killer Wayne Bowden, who killed three women in Montreal between 1969 and 1970. And he was known as the vampire racist. Rapist. Not racist. The vampire. in 1970 and he was known as the vampire racist a rapist not racist vampire rapist and i'm sorry that that's truly horrifying but man oh man it was really undercut just now by What's Nick's nickname? The vampire racist?
Starting point is 00:15:06 What does that even mean? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, so it's not that it's rapist, but that sounds awful. I didn't look into detail on what that actually is. It's a terrible thing to laugh at. I'm so sorry. It's not funny. And he was serial killer, and that's really bad.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But I would be thinking about what someone would have to do to qualify as a vampire racist oh my god okay I thought this was pretty funny so they're all supposed to be teenagers in the film right and none of them are actually in their teens which is normal
Starting point is 00:15:40 but one of them was 38 years old yes do you know which one uh kir d'alia okay okay so he's from um 2001 a space odyssey and so i think he was like a big star get so they were like we'll make an excuse it's honestly more insane if he's well known as a 40 year old man that's true that's true they're supposed to be what like 18 years old it's so crazy i feel like like you every now and again hear about an actor and like as an actor i'm like okay i'm i'm there's no way i'll
Starting point is 00:16:20 be ever allowed to play teenager again but like it's 20s is like, whoa, they're playing a teen and they're in their late 20s. 38 is insane. It's insane. You don't even know what teens like are anymore at 38. No, you're far past it at that point. Does he look old in the movie, Sammy? Yeah, I guess so. I mean, not that 38 is old.
Starting point is 00:16:46 It's not. It's not. It's not. There's something about movies in the 1970s where I feel like everyone looks old, though. Do you guys have that sometimes? Yes. That's why I kind of hesitated because I'm like, they all don't look 18. But yeah, he does look older.
Starting point is 00:17:02 But he does say that he has been there for eight years. So I imagine he was in like grad school or something interesting um so we got a budget number the it grossed four million um the budget was six hundred and twenty thousand dollars um so by today's standards those numbers would be 21 million gross on a three million dollar budget so okay pretty right you know not like hitting it out of the park necessarily but like definitely good definitely good definitely definitely good definitely not bad definitely not bad that's for sure uh gilder gilda radner was offered the role of phyllis carson but she um had to do snl instead she had snl commitments
Starting point is 00:17:44 so she dropped out one month before filming. I could definitely see her in that role, but I liked the person that did play Phil. Oh, just two more. One for the Actors' Rights champions we got. So shooting the search party scenes in the park proved to be quite difficult as it was only 10 degrees Fahrenheit outside
Starting point is 00:18:04 for the entire night of filming. Oh, no. Yeah. Which is too cold. And I wonder if there are rules now about filming outside and conditions that are like. Well, you know what there's not rules about is filming in 120 degree heat on La Quinta on The Bachelorette.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Yeah, I would say probably they're still really putting actors out in whatever temperatures happen. It's just that if you're a big enough star, you can probably be like, no. So the last one. They're all dripping sweat on The Bachelorette. It's crazy. It's like they're in Palm Springs in what? Probably fucking July. It's no good.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And they have to do all their own makeup and all that too. So it's probably like melting off of their faces. Yeah, Tayshia looks flawless always and all the men are just disgustingly sweaty. It's very funny. Okay, so the last one is in order to
Starting point is 00:19:02 get the proper creepy and raspy voice for Billy, actor Nick Mancuso had to stand on his head to compress the thorax in his neck. You know, I was wondering how these how these noises came out. I don't know. How did he figure that out, do you think? He figured it out. He thought outside the box on this one. I mean, yeah, it's a voice that we won't be able to
Starting point is 00:19:26 do as our sign-off. I'll say that. Is it in the trailer? No, I don't think so. Damn, I want to hear it. You're just going to have to hear my impression of it. Oh, hell yeah. It's going to work. Shall we watch the trailer? Yes. Yes, we shall.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Silent night. Silent night. Evil night. Starring Olivia Hussey. Cure Delay. Margot Kidder. John Saxon if this movie doesn't make your skin crawl it's on too tight Silent Night, Evil Night
Starting point is 00:20:35 rated R what's on too tight? I know, I know, I watched it before and I was like what the fuck does that mean? but I forgot to preface it with the original title was Silent Night Evil Night that makes more sense yes and then they changed it to Black Christmas
Starting point is 00:20:52 okay wait if your skin doesn't crawl it's on too tight is that what it said does it mean my skin needs to be looser or if this movie doesn't make your skin crawl it's on too tight the structure of that sentence seems to suggest that the movie is on
Starting point is 00:21:08 too tight. If it doesn't make your skin crawl it's on too tight. Right. The movie is on too tight. I gotta loosen up this movie on me. I'm not sure what the metaphor is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I did not like the part of the woman with her head being put in a plastic bag. That would be bad. Not fun. There's a few parts that you probably won't like. Like the murders? The murders mostly, yeah. The murdering?
Starting point is 00:21:38 I feel like I'm not going to love that. I probably won't love it. But I guess you have to tell us about it. I gotta. I gotta. While that they like made the trailer with the wrong name. But I read that they originally had Black Christmas and they changed it to Silent Night, Evil Night or whatever, because they're worried people would think it was a blaxploitation film. Oh, because those are big in the 70s.
Starting point is 00:22:06 70s, yeah. And then it didn't like test well or something. So they changed it back to Black Christmas and did better. Because like Christians were mad? I don't fucking know. It's also just a really weirdly
Starting point is 00:22:21 clunky title to say. Have you seen Silent Night, Evil Night? Yeah. Silent Night, Evil Night? Yeah. Silent Night, Evil Night? I bet Christians were mad, honestly. When are they not? I bet they were. Like, that was the beginning of, you know, stealing Christmas. The war on Christmas.
Starting point is 00:22:37 This was the beginning of the war on Christmas right here. You can't even say Silent Night, Evil Night anymore, Mike. Should we get into it? I will tell you if there's ever anything interesting in the 2019 version worth bringing up. Yes, chime in. I'm upset I didn't watch the 2006 version. That would have been very funny. We could have recapped three different movies.
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Starting point is 00:26:31 is a POV shot and we're kind of cutting in and out from inside the house to outside and inside there's a party going on um it's kind of like the last little holiday party before all the people that live there go home for the holidays and so we're meeting some of our characters while we're seeing this pov kind of progressing towards the house going around the back of the house and climbing up the a lattice on the side of the house and then we go back inside the house there's we meet barb um she's kind of the i don't know bitchy girl of the house but she's cool she's wearing like a choker and a big oversized men's shirt she looks cool all the styles in this are cool um um and then cutting back to outside the pov finds the attic window and climbs into the attic oh no
Starting point is 00:27:33 gross there's like a cobweb covered rocking horse in there no no nasty, as Betsy would say. Nasty shit. Back inside, we meet Jess is our protagonist. This is Olivia Hussey. She's British. This takes place in Montreal, by the way, based on the murders in Montreal. Takes place in Montreal. And then at the party, the phone rings and Jess answers and the way she answers it's Queen's English adjacent.
Starting point is 00:28:09 She's like, hello? She says it so weird. Hello? Hello? Like she's screaming it into the phone. Wait, does she not talk like that throughout the rest of the movie? I hadn't heard her really speak yet and so it was just your first line. Hello!
Starting point is 00:28:26 Wait, you know how people do have phone voices though? It's like that's her phone voice. What if someone's phone voice was the Queen's English? It'd be very funny. It might become mine. Hold on guys, I have to take the phone call.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Hello! To whom are you trying to speak? make the phone call yes yes hello hello i'm so happy to hear from you to whom to whom you're trying to speak um but okay so this phone call is uh not good it's they think it's a prank phone call someone is saying vulgar things i think they called twice. So the first one just hangs up and is like, oh, this person's saying gross things. And then he calls back. And let me tell you some of the things he says. Oh, God. Actually, I didn't really write them down.
Starting point is 00:29:17 But I sent you guys screenshots because I was shocked. I was shocked. This is the opening scene of the movie that came out in 1974. It's rated PG-13 also. Wait, no out in 1974 it's rated pg-13 also wait no no it's rated r okay okay i was shocked when i watched was okay that makes more sense that makes more sense okay yeah because what this caller says is you nasty pig cunt you nasty pig cunt uh i like says i'm gonna stick my tongue in your pussy you nasty pig cunt oh my god he says something like um i'm gonna eat your pig cunt i'm a tuna farm baby it's so crazy oh my god it's so crazy and so jess is super freaked out barb is kind of rolling her eyes thinking it's a
Starting point is 00:30:03 you know it's a prank caller. He's just one of the guys from the fraternities or whatever. Just a really normal frat guy. Also, wait, I do want to point out something I read in the trivia is that they didn't have any of that dialogue when they were actually filming it.
Starting point is 00:30:19 They adiated in afterwards. The dialogue was completely different so when the actresses were listening to it they're not like really reacting to that same dialogue they're reacting to something completely different that was being said to them interesting they made it way more vulgar and intense afterwards yeah it's really vulgar and intense and so barb takes the phone and she's kind of fucking with the caller and being like, oh, yeah, very funny. Ha ha.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And previously the voice is being like, yeah. And then once she's talking to him, it like stops and he says, I'm going to kill you. And oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's fucked up. I don't like that one little bit. It's really scary. And Barb is not too freaked out by it. Barb's getting pretty drunk. I don't like that one little bit. It's really scary. And Barb is not too freaked out,
Starting point is 00:31:05 but Barb's getting pretty drunk. I didn't totally catch. She had a phone call with her family and I think she is not going home for the holiday. So I think she has some kind of like family drama. That's like her backstory, why she's kind of drunk and she's kind of being mean to everyone. There's another girl in the house named Claire. That's kind of the nice girl she doesn't drink or smoke or anything and barb is kind of poking fun at her um calling her goody two-shoes or whatever and and claire says you guys like this could be serious someone was raped in town like last month and barb says you can't rape a townie claire she says something i don't know i don't know she says something really rude and uh it's it upsets claire and claire runs upstairs jess tries to follow her and be like she didn't mean anything by it i'm like don't go upstairs
Starting point is 00:32:02 or whatever just stay join the party she's like no it's okay I'm tired and I'm you know my dad's coming to get me tomorrow so I'm gonna go to bed anyways she's like okay goodnight and so Claire goes into her room she has a very big cat well I think it's just a house cat because it's a sorority right and so
Starting point is 00:32:19 the cat's name is Claude it's so big and fluffy there's a cat in the 2019 version but its name is Claudette. Oh, well, it's a... Slight twist there. Even more feminist than this one. Even the cat's a woman.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And we see a POV shot through a garment bag in the closet. The cat runs out of the room and there's some breathing in the closet that Claire notices. And she looks in the closet and says, Claude, is that you? And for so long, it feels like she's just slowly approaching this garment bag and of course eventually hands
Starting point is 00:33:08 burst out grab her and wrap this plastic garment bag around her head you see her breathing it in and it's like being sucked into her mouth we see downstairs the party is still loud no one is hearing anything
Starting point is 00:33:23 and the house mother comes home what do you call a sorority like the adult it's an older woman named mrs mac and she comes home and she's kind of fun and funny and she's just been shopping and she's trying to be one of the girls she has like bottles of alcohol hidden all over the house because I presume you're not supposed to allow alcohol in sororities if you're the one, the adult in charge or whatever. Although, I guess, I don't know, whatever. So Mrs. Mack comes home and then we see a shot of the hallway that kind of pans up and you see the attic door close, close as if someone has closed it behind them. Someone has just gone up.
Starting point is 00:34:14 The attic is like a little ladder up to the ceiling. The phone rings again. Jess answers it like, hello? He's in her phone voice. And it's her boyfriend, Peter. And he's, I feel like immediately an asshole. She's like, why didn't you come tonight? And he's like, you know, I've been awake for three days.
Starting point is 00:34:41 I've been studying nonstop. I'm so tired. I can't. I wouldn't come. But you also kind of get in the sense that Jess doesn't really like him very much. And she says, we need to talk. Can we talk later? And he says, why can't we talk now?
Starting point is 00:34:58 She's like, can we talk face to face? So they make a little date to talk later. Jess goes to check on claire to see if she's still upset knocks on the door there's no answer and then it cuts and so lat like a it was a big jump scare got me really good it cuts to a close-up of claire's face with the plastic garment bag still on it. And she is up in the attic as well. Oh, my God. Is she alive?
Starting point is 00:35:30 Is she alive? She is dead. Oh, big time dead. Okay. Okay. Okay. So he did not leave her there. No.
Starting point is 00:35:37 And I didn't actually catch it immediately. And so as the movie progresses and no one can find Claire, I was like, no one's looked in her room yet. Like she's in her room. I didn't get it. But she's in the attic. That's why no one can find claire i was like no one's looked in her room yet like she's in her room i didn't get it but she's in the attic that's why no one can find her so the next day we see claire's dad uh waiting outside to he's picking her up he was supposed to pick her up to take her home for the holidays he she's late she doesn't come and so he talks to another one of the students on campus. And it's like, can you take me to this sorority? My daughter was supposed to meet me here.
Starting point is 00:36:10 He goes to the sorority and Mrs. Mack is there and says, that's so strange. Her clothes are packed. She was ready to go. That's so bizarre. So nobody knows where she is. And then Jess goes to talk to Peter and tells him that she is pregnant and she is getting an abortion. Wow. 1974. I know. Hmm. And he immediately is like, what? You didn't even you're not you're not even asking me.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And she's like, I wasn't even a bitch. She was like, I wasn't even going to tell you. not even asking me and she's like i wasn't even a bitch she was like i wasn't even gonna tell you and yeah like no i'm not i don't i'm not ready to have a baby i don't want to have a baby and he's very much like oh and he says like how could you do this to me you're so selfish you know how important today is to me and he get the feeling that he has some like important appointment later that he's now going to be all upset for i guess she's ruining his day lovely to have the option of when you get to be given that news yeah i know um and when your body doesn't just scream it at you and you have no other choice but to deal with it both mentally and physically. Oh, man. So the conversation doesn't go well.
Starting point is 00:37:30 She leaves and Peter says, you know, we need to talk later. Let's talk again tonight at nine. Like I've got my thing to do and then we can talk later. And she says, there's nothing left to say, but fine.
Starting point is 00:37:42 If you want to talk, we can talk at nine. She goes home. The phone rings again. Oh, no. And a voice says, Billy, Billy. And it's actually different voices now. It's a woman's voice, a man's voice.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And the man's voice says, what your mother and I need to know is where did you put the baby? And keep screaming like Billy, Billy and Agnes. And kind of she doesn't know. Jess is like, who is this? What are you? Why are you? Why are you doing this? Eventually, caller hangs up.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Then everyone's, you know, getting a little freaked out and they decide to go to the police station to report Claire missing. And it's Barb and Phil. Phil is another girl that lives in the house, another sorority sister. And Claire's dad
Starting point is 00:38:39 go to the police station to report Claire missing. The cop, his name is Nash. He's an asshole about it and is like, yeah, like I'm sure she just went on a little weekend trip with her boyfriend. Nothing to worry about. He just kind of brushes it off and is not taking it seriously. They're getting very frustrated and Jess finds out that that the cops are taking it seriously.
Starting point is 00:39:06 She goes to an ice rink where Claire's boyfriend is practicing ice hockey and goes to tell her goes to tell him Claire is missing. And he's like, what? And she says, cops are not taking it seriously. And he's very angry and very upset. taking it seriously. And he's very angry and very upset. And then we cut to, we see that the thing that Peter had to do is a piano recital in front of like a panel of judges or something. I don't know if it's like trying to, he's trying to join a conservatory or something, or he is in a conservatory And this is a test. I don't know. But it goes poorly. It sounds very bad.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I mean I don't know much about piano. But it sounded bad to me. And he seems not happy with his performance. Uh oh. Who's going to get blamed for that? I wonder. Yeah. And then back at the police station. We see. Another woman. I wonder. Yeah. And then back at the police station, we see another woman now that we don't know crying and speaking to a different cop reporting her daughter missing.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And she's crying and saying she didn't come home from school. She's only 13. This is not like her. And she is talking to Lieutenant Fuller, who is john saxon and he is taking it seriously and at that moment chris claire's boyfriend storms in in the most amazing fur coat it's it took my breath away it's huge oh my god it's a the biggest fur coat i've ever seen and he wears it like floor length floor length what oh my god it huge. Oh my god. It's the biggest fur coat I've ever seen and he wears it with such confidence. Like floor length? Floor length. What? Oh my god, it's great. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Every time he was on screen I was like that coat! Oh my god. He wears it continuously? That's amazing. Well it's winter and they're outside a lot and it is cold. So you gotta wear your fur coat. I'm trying to visualize this. This is amazing. We'll try to find a pic. I'm sure there's something online it's great um and then we see back at the house barb is getting super drunk uh claire's dad and mrs mac
Starting point is 00:41:20 and phil are sitting at the kitchen table and she's just kind of getting way too, Barb is getting way too drunk and saying things to make them uncomfortable. She's saying, did you know that turtles, there's a kind of turtle that can have sex for three days straight. She's like trying to get a rise out of Claire's dad for some reason and just being very rude and weird. And Phil yells at her and she says, you're drunk. Go to bed. You're embarrassing yourself. And Barb eventually blows up and is like, just say that you all think this is my fault. You think like Claire, something happened to Claire because I was mean to her. So we find out that she is obviously feeling a little guilty, I think, and doing some some self-destructing because she feels bad that the last thing she said to Claire was shitty.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And so Phil tells her to go upstairs and go to bed. And she does. She she's very drunk. So she goes to bed. And she does. She's very drunk. So she goes to bed. And then Chris and Jess find out that there is going to be a search party for the little girl. And I think for Claire. So the Lieutenant Fuller has set up. You're already out on a search party. You're going to ignore one of the people if you find them? uh claire so the lieutenant fuller has you're already out on a search party you're gonna ignore
Starting point is 00:42:45 one of the people if you find them so they're just gathering a lot of people and they're going to basically do a big sweep across the whole town so chris and jess go and join that and as or or they come back to the house to grab phil to also join them and and maybe miss mac they ask her and she says no i'm my i'm going to my sister's for the holiday so i probably won't be here when you get back which i when those words came out of her mouth you don't want to you don't want to give them that i was not happy to hear that and so then we see m. Mack packing her suitcase. She has little bottles of alcohol hidden all over this house. There's one in the toilet bowl.
Starting point is 00:43:30 There's like the back of the toilet. There's one in her closet. They're just coming out of everywhere. But she sees Barb being like obviously drunk in front of her, right? It's like drinking is happening here. Yeah. Just take your alcohol out of the toilet. Maybe she doesn't want people to know that she's drinking. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Probably. Or maybe they just thought it was a funny bit and it is but so the taxi's outside honking she's like i hear you i'm coming and then she hears claude meowing and we see that claude is upstairs in the attic. Oh, no. And she kind of is following the meows. And she's like, where are you, Claude? And eventually gets to the bottom of where the attic is. And she's like, what the hell? How the hell did you get in the attic? There's absolutely no way that this cat would have been able to get in the attic, obviously.
Starting point is 00:44:24 But she's like, this is so weird that you found your way into the attic. And she starts climbing up the ladder to the attic. Oh, no. And we see a man holding a hook on a kind of pulley thing. Oh, gross. And he's gripping it so tight. And he's in like a black turtleneck. And the way that he's lit always is really spooky.
Starting point is 00:44:52 So he's completely in shadow except for his eyes most of the time. And so you just see like his eyes and his hands holding this hook kind of shaking. And she pokes her head up. She says, Claude, Claude claude where are you get down here come on i gotta go and she's turning looking 360 degrees around the attic and she sees claire sitting in a rocking chair no with that plastic bag over her head. And she doesn't scream, but she freezes and slowly turns to look behind her.
Starting point is 00:45:30 No. And as she does, he drops that hook and it goes right into her face. Oh, my God. And we see from below her being pulled up into the attic, like her feet just dangling no as she is pulled into the attic that's disgusting i hate that i also hate that we've had to see this plastic bag visual oh we'll see it more and a few times more do not appreciate that being reoccurring i really don't like that he put her in a chair some i don't know why that's like worse to me. Just you wait. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:46:07 God damn it. So after this, we see this man in the attic have a huge tantrum of sorts. He's screaming, crying, moaning. Again, there's like many voices that come from him. Oh, okay. And he's smashing things. So the other's smashing things was him he was just doing multiple voices so he does kind of a child voice at times a woman's voice at times a man's voice at times and he does kind of a little pig squeal at times ew creepy is bad so he's having a little tantrum
Starting point is 00:46:41 smashing things in the attic right after he has killed this woman, Miss Max. So, yeah. And as he's having his little tantrum, we see a little close up on Miss Mac with the hook in her face. Okay. That's enough of that. Then we go back to the search party doing their sweep and they find janice and she is dead and the little girl is dead and the mother is obviously devastated but they obviously don't find claire just is this janice thing you think completely unrelated to this i think so yes yeah okay but maybe not because you do see that he
Starting point is 00:47:28 this person climbs in and out of the attic sometimes so maybe he left the house and went and killed this little girl too but i'm not i'm not positive i don't know and so then jess goes home after the search party and that phone starts starts ringing and she answers it hello and this is where i wrote down that he sounds like a baby pig and says please stop me help me filthy billy I know what you did, Billy. Filthy, filthy Billy. Hee hee hee hee. And starts laughing. It's so fucking creepy.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Ew. I'm so glad I didn't watch this version of it. Yeah, damn. It's really scary. And she slams down the phone and picks it up. Have they told the police about this phone call? She picks it up and she calls the police right now. As she's dialing
Starting point is 00:48:32 911. Meanwhile, our friend disappeared and we're getting very terrifying phone calls. Right. And so as she's calling 911, we see some feet descending on the staircase. We can't see who it is, but just someone slowly walking down the stairs.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And it's Peter. And he scares her, kind of surprises her. And she realizes that she forgot that they were supposed to meet at nine or she was late or whatever because she went to the search party and he says yeah i was just taking a nap upstairs like you were you it got cold waiting for you outside so i thought i would just take a little nap upstairs at this point i'm i'm pretty suspicious of peter i'll say that yeah same and uh the cop answers and it's nash again the asshole that's not taking things very seriously she says we're getting upsetting phone calls and he says have you tried calling the phone company and it's like, no, who calls you?
Starting point is 00:49:46 And he kind of, again, is just like, well, you know, I'll I'll put in a service order for you at the phone company, but they'll probably take a while to get back to you. He like doesn't give a shit and brushes her off. So then Peter and Jess have the their the rest of their talk and he sits her down and he says, you know, I've thought a lot about it. And I'm going to leave the conservatory. And we're going to get married. Because he did such a shitty job. No, they're kicking you out. You're bad at piano.
Starting point is 00:50:19 We all know it. And, oh, also, by the way, when he fucked up his piano recital or whatever, he takes a lamp and smashes the piano. Very mature. In front of his judges. Not in front of the judges. He, like, waits till they leave and then he just smashes the piano. Pianos are very expensive. Very expensive.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, hard, difficult to smash. Yeah. So we see that he has a violence inside of him. So he sits her down and he says, yeah, we're going to get married and we're going to have this baby. And she says, you know, when we first started dating and you told me all the things that you wanted to do with your life and I told you all the things I wanted to do with my life like i still want to do those things and he's like well we can still do those things we'll be married and have a baby and you can do those things and she's like peter i don't want to marry you like i don't want to have a baby with you and i don't want to marry you and um then we we cut to uh the back to the police office, police station.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And Lieutenant Fuller finds out that Nash has kind of blown off these two pretty serious complaints because Claire's dad has come back again, I guess, to try to talk to someone else. His daughter's fucking missing. A little girl has died. Someone take this seriously. lieutenant fuller is like furious at nash like don't you think we should be taking this seriously like considering all these circumstances nash is like oh yeah i don't i guess like i guess we could it's just an idiot
Starting point is 00:51:57 and chris is there i just wrote in my notes again that that dang coat. I love this coat. Every scene it's in, it steals the show. I don't know what was happening in the scene. A coat was being worn flawlessly. And then there's a smash cut to ornaments being smashed on the tree. We see Peter having a tantrum he's yelling you selfish bitch he says you're not having an abortion you better not abort this baby she's getting
Starting point is 00:52:33 freaked out and angry and she says peter i think you need to leave get out oh my god he says you're not getting an abortion you're not getting an abortion she's like you need to get you need to get out and he says if you have abortion have an abortion you're gonna really regret it that's a threat he says you're gonna be very sorry oh it's not good i did not like it well she's definitely not making a good case to marry him no like no we know that we that peter is we shouldn't marry peter we shouldn't marry Peter. We shouldn't marry Peter. We don't want to marry Peter.
Starting point is 00:53:08 We don't want to marry Peter. Another thing he says is you're treating getting an abortion like having a wart removed. My goodness. Yeah. So Lieutenant Fuller comes to the sorority house to speak with Jess and tells her that they're going to tap the phone and so hopefully the next time that the person calls they'll be able to trace it and he says we're also going to station a car outside um so there will always be an officer close by if you need not as close as the dude in the attic. And as Lieutenant Fuller walked in,
Starting point is 00:53:50 Peter was storming out and Fuller kind of clocked him like, this is weird. And then we see that Peter doesn't leave. He just hides outside in the bushes. So, we're not feeling good about
Starting point is 00:54:06 Peter. And I do wonder, is this a point in which you're like, okay, so Peter's the murderer or where you're like, they're trying to make me think Peter's the murderer? Well, the second Peter called in the very first scene, I was like, it's Peter. For sure it's Peter. And then I feel like the more they make it seem like Peter, the more I'm like, oh, it's
Starting point is 00:54:21 not Peter. Right, right, right. And i'll we'll find out we'll find out whether it is or is not um then back at the house phil comes home and she's crying and she says i know claire's dead i just know it i can feel it and she's crying to jess and jess is trying to comfort her and she's like i'm sorry jess like i'm just so like tired and scared and this is so crazy and jess says why don't you just go to bed just go lay down get some rest and we cut to claire's body in that rocking chair in the attic a nice little close-up and we see that there she is holding a. So he has placed a little doll in her arms and is rocking her singing a nursery rhyme.
Starting point is 00:55:10 Ew. Yeah, that does make it seem like it's Peter in a way with the abortion stuff. Gross. So now it's just Jess in the house. Well, Barb and Phil are both upstairs sleeping. Okay, Barb is upstairs too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:26 And we see this man climbing down from the attic. It's like a two, I guess a two-story house. Big. A sorority. I think 10 girls live there. And we see him climbing down from the attic and opens the door to Barb's room. And we see that in Barb's room, she has a unicorn glass figurine with an unusually long horn. No!
Starting point is 00:55:56 It's really disproportionate to the size of the horse part. It's just a huge, huge horn. Okay. And then we go downstairs. You see Jess is just kind of sitting by the fireplace. And then we hear Barb screaming. Jess runs upstairs to go check on her, opens the door. Barb is having like an asthma attack and she's completely freaking out.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Jess grabs her inhaler, gives it to her. She uses her inhaler, kind to her she uses her inhaler kind of starts calming down and says i had a dream that there was a man in in here there was a man in my room and wasn't a dream i know it wasn't a dream we saw it we saw it he was saw it but just comfort sources there's no one here it's okay you're okay go back to sleep um and then she hears singing and there's little carolers at the door going you know house to house little kids and so she opens the front door and they're singing and uh the editing in this scene was really great then we see the man returning to barb room, opening the door again.
Starting point is 00:57:05 And we see him grab that unicorn. And Barb's eyes open. It's dark in her room. And we hear him say, Agnes, Agnes, it's me, Billy. It's all right, Agnes. Pretty Agnes. Shh. Don't you tell them what we's alright Agnes pretty Agnes shhh don't you tell them what we did Agnes
Starting point is 00:57:28 don't tell them what we did and eventually Barb wakes up and we get a very scary shot of this man completely shadowed in the darkness again all you see is his eyes and his hands as he raises that unicorn figurine
Starting point is 00:57:44 and stabs her in the chest. And this is intercut back and forth with the carolers. So it's like a shot of stabbing, a shot of a little kid's face singing. Oh, my God. It's pretty fun, even though it's also very upsetting. But a well-edited scene. Jess goes back, closes the door goes back inside and that phone rings we're getting a sense that this phone rings every time someone dies right after someone dies
Starting point is 00:58:13 and the voice on the phone is now like a child's voice and it says no billy no no billy please billy no and then back to a man's voice saying what your mother and i must know what your mother and i must know billy where is the baby billy and then in kind of a woman's voice says just like getting a wart removed. What the fuck? And she says, oh my God, and hangs up. And also they were trying to trace it. But as we know, to trace a call, you have to have them on for a certain amount of time. And so they were trying to trace it. She hangs up on him because she's freaked out
Starting point is 00:59:00 because he said something that someone in the house just said. And Fuller, lieutenant fuller calls and says that wasn't enough time you need to try to keep him on the phone for longer so that we can trace trace him but she's like you heard that right you heard how this is not okay yeah and he said does he he said he says something something like, does the caller always use multiple voices like that? She says, yes, yes, he's done that before. That is usually what it sounds. Yeah, I mean, Lieutenant Fuller is never, like, questioning her. He's very much on her side and believes her and wants to help.
Starting point is 00:59:39 It's just Nash that's, like, an asshole. So, she doesn't reveal that her boyfriend said a thing yes she keeps that to herself and but she confides in phil she i think phil comes downstairs to check because she heard commotion or whatever and she says to phil um you know, the scary call said something that Peter said to me, like, is this Peter? Peter wouldn't do something like this, right? It's either Peter or it's someone who heard Peter just a moment ago. Either way, it's bad. And then the phone rings again.
Starting point is 01:00:21 And it's Peter. And he's crying. And he says help help me please please uh please just don't do this don't hurt the baby jess and and because the police station gets a notification or the phone rings on their end too and so they're listening in lieutenant fuller is listening in. Lieutenant Fuller is listening in. And Peter is just saying, don't hurt the baby, Jess. Don't hurt the baby, Jess. And she says, Peter, there's no reason to get upset. Like, we'll talk about this later.
Starting point is 01:00:54 I'll talk to you later. Hangs up. Lieutenant Fuller calls back again. He's like, so what was that about? And because a lot of the other calls have been about baby and where's the baby so he's like what what the hell is that what does he mean don't hurt the baby and she's embarrassed and she says well i'm pregnant and i'm gonna get an abortion and she's very uncomfortable and phil is down there and like two people at the police station are listening. It's just this very uncomfortable moment.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And Fuller says, okay, was Peter ever with you when you got any of the calls? And she says, yes, actually, yes, he was here one time, like right after a call. He was here. It couldn't have been him. She's like super relieved. She didn't put this together. And she says like, oh, thank God, like it can't be Peter. Fuller is just not as convinced. And he's like, well, I'd like to interview Peter. Where can I find him? And she tells him, you know, where he lives. Thenil is going back upstairs to go to bed and she decides to go check on barb and she opens the door to barb's room and we just hear agnes and she's pulled in the
Starting point is 01:02:16 room and the door closes we don't see anything no but it's not good no so now everyone is dead except for jess yeah not good and so fuller goes over to to to where peter lives he's not there but he sees that the piano is completely smashed he's like well this is not good and then back at the sorority, the phone rings and we hear some little pig squealing noises yelling, you bitch. No, Billy. And then a man's voice saying, you left you left Agnes alone with Billy. Where's the baby? Where's the baby? You left Agnes with Billy.
Starting point is 01:02:59 No, Billy. Are you guys liking these impressions? Honestly, it's so good. I think it would be better if you stood on your head for like 30 seconds, though. Then try it again. During, okay, so during this phone call, he goes on and on and on. And so she leaves him on the phone. She doesn't hang up on him and she just lets him yell and yell and yell.
Starting point is 01:03:24 And it's all very creepy. But we see the phone. She doesn't hang up on him and she just lets him yell and yell and yell. And it's all very creepy. But we see the phone guy at the police office, police station. Why did you say police office? Police office. Police office. Yeah. Office of policemen. A police officer's office.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And we see him. He's able to, he's like, oh my God, it's here, it's here. He traces it. able to he's like oh my god it's here it's here he's he he he traces it we see the radio in fuller's patrol car ring so
Starting point is 01:03:51 he gets the call from back at the station that they have traced the call and he says great where's it coming from they say it's coming from six belmont street and he says no no no it's going to where's the call coming from? It's going to 6 Belmont Street.
Starting point is 01:04:08 And they're like, no, it's coming from and going to 6 Belmont Street. Imagine, okay, horrifying, but imagine being the people who have this information now, the call is literally the call is coming from inside the house
Starting point is 01:04:24 and they take the time to call this guy and be like, no, no, hold up. Wait, wait, wait, wait. this information out the call is cut literally the call is coming from inside the house and it they take the time to call this guy be like no no hold up wait wait wait wait it's going to no just the killer's in the house go to the fucking house yeah yeah yeah get it done don't waste any time the craziest thing so the phone call is coming from and going to just to be like this address that it's coming from like no further oh it's actually coming from six Belmont Street like they're like trying to be cool with it like no
Starting point is 01:04:53 so but Fuller is at Peter's place the call is coming from inside the house well that's what because Scream is the first time that I had seen that I mean I mean, I didn't watch a ton of horror movies growing up. I'm only now really expanding my
Starting point is 01:05:12 horror movie knowledge. And yeah, I didn't know. I mean, and I still don't know if this is the very first time it happened, but this is certainly the earliest year that I've seen it happen in a movie, and it's so fucking scary. It's very scary. so fuller's at peter's house and so he's like fuck radios that officer that's stationed outside of their house
Starting point is 01:05:33 and is like calling i can't remember that officer's name we see that that officer is dead in his car with his throats lit yep oh you what? This is kind of a good bingo one. It's like the officer stationed anywhere is gonna die, no matter what. Like, they're not long for this world. And so then he radios the station
Starting point is 01:05:58 and this is how stupid I am. I was like, why doesn't he just call Jess? And I was like, oh, because it's the 70s and it's a radio, not a phone. It's a radio, not a phone. I, too, was like, right. He doesn't know her number.
Starting point is 01:06:19 He doesn't have it memorized. What are you getting at? No, it's a radio. It's a radio, not a phone. He cannot call jess so he radios the station and gets good old nash and says nash do exactly what i say if you fuck this up i'm gonna be so mad he's like no now our hopes are with nash he says you need to call jess be really calm don't tell her that the call is coming from in the house.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Just tell her to walk out, like to, to just walk out the front door and come to the station or whatever, something like, just like calmly get her out of the house. Nash is like, sure. No problem.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Oh my God. Fuck this up so hard. No. So Nash calls Jess and says, Hey, uh, Jess. So, so I need you to just to just walk right out, walk right out of that house, walk out of the house. And we found where the where the killer is. And so so so leave the house. And she says, OK, well, Jess and Barb are upstairs. He's like,'t go don't go don't go get them and she's like well what do you mean and she's like i'm just gonna go get them and he's like just the killer is in the house like the killer is in the house and and she looks very scared obviously
Starting point is 01:07:36 and he i don't know i guess senses that she's gonna try to save her friends he's like don't do it just just walk out that front door. Walk out that front door. She hangs up the phone. She looks up the stairs. She's at like the foot of the stairs. She's screaming at Phil and Barb. Like, Phil, Barb, please come downstairs.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Please come downstairs. They're not answering. And so she grabs a fire poker okay all right and slowly walks up those stairs no no no here's the question what like what would you do right you know okay so it's so Watch. I was thinking about this because I was like watching a movie. It's so easy to be like, no, just fucking leave. Walk out the front door. But then I was like, but what if it was you guys?
Starting point is 01:08:32 Like, yeah. And I thought you were alive. And it's like, yeah, leave them to their death. Or do I try to get them out? I think what you have to do. And again, I would never think of this in the moment. I'd be like, whoa. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Look what's out the front door. Guys, you gotta see this. The carolers are back. They want to see you. You gotta come. And just like open the door, grab a fire poker, stand by the open front door and go, guys. Smart. Come upstairs, guys.
Starting point is 01:09:00 This is why you're going to be a final girl. Yeah, Emily is for sure a final girl that's true we're all gonna die and you'll be left alive to mourn us forever but it is like yeah if you know that's true I guess that's why he was like don't tell her just tell her she needs to go to the state you know because then yeah because otherwise otherwise you do this you have to live with the knowledge for the rest of her life that she let her friends die you can't make her make that choice because then she's taken by her poker up the stairs, which, unfortunately for her, she
Starting point is 01:09:27 doesn't know they're already dead. I was going to say, because as a viewer, we know they're already dead, so it's easy to be like, there's no point to going upstairs. But she doesn't know. She doesn't know. And also, think about this for a second because movies never do this, but as a viewer, what if you did, what if they were still alive? And what if
Starting point is 01:09:43 we knew they were still alive? what if like we knew they were still alive true we didn't see what happened right we would be like you gotta get them yeah right wouldn't you kind of be like you're an asshole for just leaving yeah it's easy to be an asshole as an audience member because it's like this is not happening to me yeah this is what they should do okay she's going up the stairs oh jess oh. Oh, Jess. Also, you guys, I just want a flag that we're supposed to make multiple 69 jokes throughout this episode. Okay. We failed miserably.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Well, we're not done yet. So just like, yeah, just keep your eyes peeled for any of those 69 opportunities. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We are, time is running out for the 69 jokes. Okay. Okay. So she's climbing up this.
Starting point is 01:10:23 How do you make a joke about 69ing? I don't know. You can't. Well, you can't. We're going to have to find a way. We're going to have to find a way. She's with her fire poker climbing up this staircase. Goes to Barb's door.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Barb opens it. One of 69. Opens it slowly. Barb, I'm horny. One of 69. Opens it slowly. Barb, I'm horny. One of 69. And Barb and Phil are 69ing. Yes!
Starting point is 01:10:56 There it is. No, Barb and Phil are both dead. They're dead. Yeah, they're dead. In that room? They're both in that room. And where are their faces in respect to each other's? Their faces are
Starting point is 01:11:07 pretty close to each other's faces. Okay. More of an 11 position than a 69. More of an 11. They're doing an 11. Damn, this would have been perfect for our 11th episode. Damn it! Damn it! And
Starting point is 01:11:23 Jess is in shock. In the door door frame looking at them they're both kind they're both bloodied in a chair and uh we hear agnes no it's me billy agnes it's okay it's me billy and she turns and looks and through the little gap in the door, open door frame, you see his eye. And it is so scary. His pupil is almost red. Like it's a very scary eye. And she slams the door closed and I think slams it on his hand or something. He starts screaming.
Starting point is 01:12:05 She runs downstairs. She's so good at holding onto her fire poker, too. Like, I feel like usually in these moments, you drop the weapon and you just run. And she, I was like keeping an eye, and I was like, damn, yeah, she's holding that fire poker. Good for her.
Starting point is 01:12:19 She runs downstairs. When she gets to the foot of the stairs, he grabs her by the hair, pulls her. She smacks her head on the staircase and i think is like bleeding from her head and uh so she can't make it to the front door i guess because he's right there and so she goes to the the the basement and closes the the door to the basement on him he is pounding on the basement and closes the door to the basement on him. He is pounding on the basement door, screaming, making little pig squeal noises. She's holding that basement door closed.
Starting point is 01:12:54 And eventually, he goes completely silent. And we hear footsteps walking away. Even worse. So much worse. Oh, God. Oh, God. And she has to go down into the basement why because there are entrances to the basement from the it's like you know kind of in like a tornado shelter or whatever like
Starting point is 01:13:14 there's doors to the basement and other parts of the house so he could get back into the house from he could get into the basement with her and so she I think she's thinking She closed herself in the basement. Yes. Right. Okay. Sorry. Yes. She closed herself in the basement and I think she's thinking she can either get out through a door in the basement or that he's going to get in.
Starting point is 01:13:38 So she has to go down further into the basement. I mean I'll say this to you again. We're going to find out who the killer is. i think eventually but he seems to be a man who knows the layout of the house yeah knows the house good point and so she goes down and the basement has uh windows you know kind of like what do you call a garden apartment garden apartment and so the windows are kind of up high on the basement. And you just see a man's silhouette kind of circling the windows, walking, and then leaning down and putting his hands up on the window like he's trying to look in.
Starting point is 01:14:18 It's all very clouded, dirty windows. So he can't see in. So she can't see who it is either. She can't see who it is, but it looks like Peter. they've got the same haircut peter has kind of a bob okay and but to be fair we have well yeah we've seen the killer and it kind of looks like the killer has a little bob and so she's walking down she's holding her fire poker for dear life and she goes to the door and then the figure pops at the door too he's there and puts his face against the glass and it's peter he says jess jess are you in there are you okay jess it's me peter open open the door jess are you okay
Starting point is 01:15:06 good tactic for the killer but and then we we cut to seeing fuller driving over as fast as he can he's racing to get there and well because it's also like i mean maybe he's not but if he's not the killer how on earth does he know to come over to his girlfriend's house and she's hiding in the basement like sir what what i don't know suspicious very suspicious so fuller gets there jumps out of his car and you just hear jess screaming and he he bursts in figures out she's in the basement runs down there and her and peter are both unconscious and bloodied and we learn that i think she killed him i think he attacked her and she killed him they're kind of we don't really get an explanation but they he is dead peter is dead and okay she um they bring her upstairs and i think they sedate her because she's had a tough day
Starting point is 01:16:15 and they put her to bed all the cops are there's a crime scene now they're like we got him we got the guy um fuller is like how long until jess wakes up so that i can interview her about what happened get some clarity on the situation and they say well she'll probably be out for at least another four hours and i think this is like in the middle of the night now so they're all kind of well we'll we'll leave we'll leave just a cop stationed outside and that did not work before and we'll come back in the morning all the cops leave and then we just see the camera on jess asleep in her bed now the only person in the house and wait so they left her in the house alone yes okay for a second i thought they brought her to the hospital but no they just kind of set up in her house i guess for some reason and the camera pans to each empty each of the empty i think 10 bedrooms
Starting point is 01:17:20 and something about just seeing a dark bedroom is very scary. Yeah, that is scary. And especially a bed. You're just like, someone's under that bed. Every bed looked like so. I just was like, someone's under that bed. And all the bedrooms are empty. And then we're moving closer to that attic. We pass by some curtains and we start hearing some giggling. No. And then we're moving closer to that attic. We pass by some curtains and we start hearing some giggling. Hee hee hee hee hee. No. And then we hear singing of that old familiar nursery rhyme from earlier.
Starting point is 01:17:55 And we go up the little ladder to the attic and we see the man just still there kind of giggling with Claire's body still. And then the camera pulls out from Claire's face, wrapped in plastic, out through the attic window and just kind of pulls further and further away till we can see the whole house and then the phone rings and jess is asleep the cop is outside and
Starting point is 01:18:36 so the phone just rings and rings and credits roll over a shot of the house with the phone just ringing. Oh my God. That is fucked up. Well, so we know it wasn't Peter. It was not Peter. Okay. Wow. Okay. So I like that it's like it make it seem like it's Peter.
Starting point is 01:19:00 But then again, I'm like, why was he at the basement yeah sure it's like it's like they went a little too far yeah and also that is the worst police force in it's not the worst cops are bad but but like they don't know for sure that peter she's sedated they don't fucking they weren't there yeah they don't know her in the house what the fuck and they don't even know that they don't even really know unless she admitted it i guess if she killed him or not like could have been the killer that killed him right you what you they're like they're so wanting to just go home like all of them are so badly like it's late i feel like i usually want that overtime it's what our fucking city budgets pay for
Starting point is 01:19:52 that's a good point um not when they actually have to work though they want overtime where they can just hang out what is also like this woman just experienced unbelievable trauma she's gonna be asleep for four hours then wake up alone again in the house where her and just hang out. What is also like this woman just experienced unbelievable trauma. She's going to be asleep for four hours and wake up alone again in the house where her she was almost murdered.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Her boyfriend was murdered. Her friends died. She's going to wake up alone in that house in four hours. Are you fucking kidding me? It's a bad idea. Also, it's a it's a crime scene. It's a full on crime scene.
Starting point is 01:20:18 You can't just leave her there. It's a crime scene. It's like filled with evidence. You like can't do that. I mean, I guess maybe it was different in the 70s, but I've learned a thing from CSI and I gotta tell you, you gotta leave that crime scene
Starting point is 01:20:32 immaculate. Wow. That movie sounds very scary. It really sounded really, it was so much scarier than the version I watched. The version I watched was so tame. Yeah, what happens in the other one? It was so different. It was like me some of the main differences? Yeah, what happens in the other one? It was so different. It was like...
Starting point is 01:20:49 Is it a slasher as well? It's technically a slasher, but you basically almost... So it's about a sorority house. It opens on a fraternity doing some spooky fraternity stuff. Some kind of cult. Spooky fraternity. Classic spooky fraternity stuff, you know, some kind of like cult classic spooky fraternity stuff. And it takes place at a fancy college that I think is supposed to be like Harvard or something.
Starting point is 01:21:11 And it follows this one main character who is a, I think she's a senior. The thing that I liked about it was that the relationships between the girls were actually like pretty genuine. And I thought the dialogue was pretty realistic and for what the movie was, which was like a pretty bad movie. I did enjoy the relationship dynamics between the women in the house. But yeah, they're in a sorority and she was assaulted by someone um that everyone kind of knows this assault happened and by a member of the like their like partner fraternity or whatever and it's like constantly referenced that he's coming back and they're like you just need to like confront him or not or just like get like it's like he this is in the past, like you're stronger now, like blah, blah, blah. But basically, it's no one believed her that she assaulted her.
Starting point is 01:22:13 And then they start getting creepy phone calls. creepy professor who is like pissed that there's a petition going around to get him fired because he's like doesn't teach he only teaches white male authors and doesn't teach um any like diversity or women and he's head of the fraternity um and they're all on Christmas break. Everyone's going home. And basically they start like getting mysteriously murdered. Does it end up being just a non, not any of the characters? It ends up being so crazy, you guys. It's so funny. Yeah, who's the end the end is it's um the creepy professor has harnessed the power of the founder of the college oh my god and put it put it into the bust of like a statue of him and the statue
Starting point is 01:23:17 is then able to like hypnotize the members of the fraternity into murdering any women who like go outside of the bounds of their power what? so women are like you know like basically when women are fighting the patriarchy they need to be like reined in and controlled and so
Starting point is 01:23:38 they hypnotize all the fraternity members it's so crazy but there's also police there's the most infuriating part of the movie is that she goes to the local like campus security to to tell them like my friends are missing and i'm getting these really scary messages and the security guard is like such an asshole to her and it's so infuriating that happens in real life all the time yeah it really made me like
Starting point is 01:24:10 pissed off it made me feel like so angry because that part was also pretty realistic where he was like you could see someone actually acting that way it feels like that real horror is enough and you don't need to add in a supernaturally animated hypnotizing bust university founder that way. Real horror is enough and you don't need to add in a supernaturally animated bust of a
Starting point is 01:24:26 hypnotizing bust. University founder. Yeah, that is wild. Yeah. So that was that movie. It was not, it was I mean, it was ridiculous. Like it just it wasn't scary at all. This version was quite scary and a pretty bad
Starting point is 01:24:41 one to then be alone in a big house. I was just like this is is, I was really hoping that the killer died in the end, but nope, just in the attic. I literally have not looked at the ceilings of this house. I won't look at the ceilings. I don't want to know if there's an attic. Don't look at them. No, there's no point in knowing.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Don't look, you're fine, you're fine. I hear that there are no attics in the Pacific Northwest. Oh, thank God. Or basements god Or basements Or killers That is a big ol' fuf Yeah Well Henley I'm sorry you watched
Starting point is 01:25:15 The bad version of this movie I'm relieved I watched the bad version Honestly Were you confused that I said that I liked it And it was really scary I Was confused that i said that i liked it and it was really scary i i i was confused that you said that you were surprised that it was pg-13 because they said pig cunt a bunch of times and i was like must have missed the pig cunt part i was like i think they missed the pig cunt part
Starting point is 01:25:40 i don't think they said that it's memorable and. And I was like, did I watch an edited version of this movie? And then I Googled it and was like, fuck. God damn it. Oh, boy. Yeah. Well, anyone home alone for the holidays? I am
Starting point is 01:25:59 too. We'll be in this together and we'll make it through. Oof. Yeah. If you need a little palate cleanser, watch last year's holiday pick, Krampus. You know, a real cheery festive holiday tale.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Got some goat hooves. Love Krampus. So cute. don't remind me guys what if I got a tattoo of goat hooves just hooves I love it alright everybody well happy Henley's birthday
Starting point is 01:26:36 to all our listeners out there we hope you celebrate Henley's birthday safely have yourself a merry little Henley's birthday we hope you're all safe and healthy and doing what you gotta do for your mental health. The holidays are hard in any
Starting point is 01:26:52 year for some people. This is a very hard year. So just know that we love you guys and we're gonna get through this. Next Christmas is gonna be much more festive. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Henley will be 32. I'll be 32. So. So close to 40. So close. So close. And OK, I think for voice, we got two options. We've got obviously the phone call.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Creepy Agnes. Billy. Billy. we got two options we've got obviously the phone call creepy agnes billy billy or we could do queen's english hello from all of us here oh i think we've done this before but we have but we're gonna do it again you know it's our favorite you guys know it's our favorite from from from all of us here at too scary did it watch will you guys each do that sentence from all of us here
Starting point is 01:27:51 at too scary didn't watch didn't watch good boy Henley your turn I can't I can't even hear it at all. How do I get into it like, Philip.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Philip. We're all family here. From all of us here, a too scary didn't watch. You could do Diana. That was a good watch. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Hi everybody. bye hi everybody
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