Too Scary; Didn't Watch - Bonus Episode: SMILE
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This is a HeadGum Podcast.
This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch.
Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, bonus episode on Halloween!
It's Halloween!
Halloween!
Happy Halloween, everybody.
Happy Halloween.
Hey, hey everyone.
Happy Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
Oh, exciting stuff.
Have you guys seen any spooky Halloween costumes roaming the streets in L.A.?
Have you seen any fun ones?
I'll tell you what I saw today.
So I saw a lot of goddamn Halloween costumes today.
There was a little kids party in the park across the street from us.
And I've never seen so many children in my life.
And the thing about Halloween is kids and adults get dressed up.
So it was like everyone was dressed up and the prevalence of those blow-up costumes
people love those so okay but like the creativity there um you know in fantasia the elephants with
the tutus that dance okay there i saw there was one of those, which was really making me laugh.
Somebody had to manufacture that.
And I'm not imagining that's a really sought after item.
No, but the best one was there was a woman who had a shark one on and they were blasting music in this park and they were playing Billie Eilish.
And this shark was just dancing so aggressively to billy eilish like
alone and all the kids are loving it and it was like i was like what is happening
this is so crazy um but it's really cute and i don't know I just love seeing everyone else's costumes. It's so much fun to see how
creative people are.
I haven't seen
any and I forgot that
that was even really a possibility.
I guess
in LA it doesn't happen as
often. There's not like a place
you could go.
Do you know what I mean? Do I get trick-or-treaters?
I think I'm tucked away enough that
I don't really get trick or treaters
but that would be cute if I did
but I don't have any candy so hopefully I don't
just disappoint them
and that would break my heart
we're gonna go trick or treating with
our mutual friend
we all have this friend who has a child and that I'm
excited for because I do like to I like to be out and do it because then you like see the kids who walk by you and you
like see the little families and also i'll probably get to like you know eat some of her candy because
she's a fucking baby she doesn't know she definitely doesn't know she's too little she's
way too little she won't even know she doesn't even know what's good i'll convince her all the
worst candies are the best ones and then i'll take the good ones for myself. Yeah, you're like
ooh, you love
Mike and Ike's. Ooh, Mike and Ike's
those are your favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You
love those. Also, there's like
no way a two-year-old can eat Mike and Ike's
right? Like wouldn't that be silly?
Yum, yum, yum, yum.
Just rip out all their teeth.
But I'll keep you guys posted for
what good ones I see. i'm excited to see some
some funny little costumes i can't wait i truly can't but you know what i really can't wait for
i have an idea hearing about this movie oh my god yeah we didn't even freaking say what it is but i
think you guys know well you guys wanted a super scary one that really won by a landslide. We asked if you wanted
Hocus Pocus or a scary one.
Not scary, which I guess
that is sort of the whole point.
That is sort of the whole thing.
I beg to differ.
But
I came really close
to watching Martyrs
and doing Martyrs.
I'm so glad it wasn't martyrs i am not prepared for
martyrs but it's so funny because uh so what we end what we will be recapping today is smile
and there's like a big part of me that would rather watch martyrs than smile like smile you
did not want to do this scares me more because i saw a review that just called it jump scare the movie and I hate a jump scare
so I cannot relax
in a movie where I know that there are jump
scares so I basically watched this whole
movie with my whole body tense the
whole time because I don't know when the jump scares are coming
so I'm just like constantly
so I'm constantly braced
whereas if it's like a
torture porn movie
you're just in it. I just like,
I kind of know what I'm in for and I know what's going to happen and I can
relax.
Okay.
It's torture porn.
I can relax.
I can just sit back and relax.
I know what's going to happen.
It's because you can adapt.
You can adapt to a torture porn,
but you can't adapt.
It's like normalizes it's like when
i went to see a surgery in 11th grade for my anatomy and physiology class that is like the
body's already cut open so it's like okay well i'm in i'm in it yeah it's like jarring at first
and then you're like all right well now i now i get it and that's what torture porn is like as well. But smile is just.
Yep.
I can't relax.
I can't relax.
I can't have fun.
Oh, boy.
Wow.
You really you really did a big favor to us all.
A big Halloween treat for Halloween miracle.
It's a Halloween miracle.
You know, miracles happen on Halloween.
You're Halloween miracle. It's a Halloween miracle. You know miracles happen on Halloween. You're Halloween Santa.
It's just funny because I now think in, it like made me question my role in the podcast,
in the theater watching this film where I was like, probably I feel like one of the
most scared people in the theater. I was sitting next to these two like 14 year olds that were
just like laughing, having a great time.
I don't understand not being affected by jump scares it's like literally it's like manufactured
to make you tense and then jump like how how can you not like it's like getting hit with one of
those things on your knee that doctors do your reflex thing where it's like like you were gonna
jump and here's the thing here's the thing is that actually a jump scare
that truly
catches me off guard, I do enjoy.
And so if I'm
watching something... You just don't want to know what's coming.
Yes. So if someone says
this movie's filled with jump scares,
then that's
not going to be a fun time for me. But a movie
with one good, effective jump
scare that really catches me off guard is like fun it's because it's just a little jolt of adrenaline and i'm not like
tensed waiting for it the entire time yeah yeah yeah so so you weren't having fun i really this
was a tough one for me but oh man i did like it and i think i'd like it more upon a second watch
knowing now where all the jumps i was tempted to like do what we the service we provide to others
i was tempted to try to like google it first and be like where are these jump scares gonna be so
that i can know when to be stressed and when to relax but that's what we're going to provide for
you so if you feel the same way as me and you could
see this movie knowing where
all the jump scares are, that's what we're going to do for you
here today. A gift from Halloween Santa.
Halloween Santa.
My favorite Santa.
Smile was written and directed
by Parker Flynn
starring Zosie Bacon,
Jesse T. Usher, Kyle Gallner, and Cal Penn.
It's in theaters now.
79% on Rotten Tomatoes.
68% on Metacritic.
6.9% on IMDb.
Nice.
Nice.
Nice.
And the budget was $17 million.
So far, it's made $186 million.
Wow.
Wow.
That's a lot. It was going to go straight
to VOD.
But it did better in
a test screening than expected
and so they decided to release it in
theaters and it's just crazy to think
that they almost didn't.
They wouldn't have a million dollars on the fucking table.
They would have lost a lot
of money in that.
People like to see a scary movie in theaters in Halloween times.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
And Zosie Bacon, Zosie Bacon is Kevin Bacon and Keira Sidgwick's daughter.
Wow.
Incredible.
I want her and Maya Hawk to be like best friends. That'd be cool. Don't you feel like it's like a similar vibe?
I didn't know that at all. But now that I now that I do know it, I can see it very much. See it.
Oh, that's fun. That's really fun. And yeah, it's exciting. I love Kevin Bacon and Keira Sedgwick. What a great couple.
Aren't they just like one of those good solid couples that makes you feel like they're a good
couple? Like love is real. Yeah. Happy and like believe in love. Exactly. Wow. Yeah. I really do
see it now. Wow. This is really exciting. Okay. Wow. Okay. I can't wait. I've wanted I was so glad this movie ended up being good
And people wanted to hear about it
And people wanted to see it because every time I saw the trailer
I was desperate
To know what happens
But I was never going to see it
You get it the whole point of the thing
And I can't freaking wait to hear about it
I'm so excited
Yeah okay
I've seen this trailer.
I'm ready to see it again.
This is it. I'm scared. I'm scared.
It's happening. Let's
watch this trailer.
What is it you like
to talk about?
I'm patient.
Hi. I know
you're nervous. I just want to have a chat. I'm patient. Hi. I know you're nervous.
I just want to have a chat.
I'm seeing something no one else can see except for me.
It's smiling at me.
No!
Oh, my God!
No! No! Yesterday, a patient in your care died brutally in front of you.
I need to find an explanation for what happened.
It's smiling at me.
It's smiling at me. It's smiling at me. No, it's not.
You're going to die!
You're going to die! You're going to die! You're going to die you're going to die i found 20 cases involving 19 victims with a direct line linking them all together
you said only 19
why is it that everybody else who's seen it is dead and you're alive i've seen it too
you get away from me Everybody else who's seen it is dead and you're alive. I've seen it too. Me?
Get her away from me!
How long between each victim's death?
None of them survived longer than a week.
Rose!
Today's my fourth day.
I am not going to keep running.
I have to face it.
How does it make you feel
i'm just really scared that something bad is going to happen. Rose.
Okay.
Okay.
That's enough.
We're finally doing it.
We're finally doing it.
I can't wait.
Oh, my God.
That was worse than I remembered.
Oh, my God. looks so Scary and I
Get to know
I get to know
Oh my god
Sammy thank you so much
Let's do it
Let's do it
Okay okay okay
I also will say that
I movie hopped Into this movie this was my second film of
the day yesterday and the first movie i watched was after sun which was like so beautiful and so
i cried through like the first 20 minutes of smile just because i was still like in a very emotional place. Oh, wow. That's an interesting state to enter.
It was a very, it was very like a funny whiplashy moment where I just.
Two very different experiences.
Was feeling really fragile.
And so things in smile were making me cry that should not have been making me cry.
Oh, it's a very funny.
I had space to be in it.
But OK, let's recap it.
And I will give the old regular disclaimer that it may not be perfect because I just saw it in theaters yesterday, but I shall do my best.
Here we go okay we begin on a woman's face
who is dead in her bed with vomit oh like all coming out of her mouth like she was clearly
at this point you're still crying yeah i'm still crying and we the camera rotates and we see a young girl in the doorway looking at this dead woman, assuming that this is her daughter.
And then Zosie Bacon wakes up in her office.
And the implication being that this is her dream that this was her past
um finding her mom dead that's overdosed uh so c bacon's name is rose she
is clearly a workaholic she works at a emergency psychiatric hospital and
she gets
a call and
someone, they bring someone in named Carl,
a man that's clearly been in
a few times before. They all know him. It's Carl
again. And he's
shaking and talking to himself
and saying, I'm going to die. She's going to die.
My mom's going to die. I don't want to die. I don't want to die.
They're going to die. I'm going to die. She's going to die. My mom's going to die. I don't want to die. I don't want to die. They're going to die. I'm going to die. And Rose is really kind to him and
good with him. It's clear that she really cares about her patients. And she's like, Carl, it's
me. It's Rose. Like, how are you? It's going to be okay. And she says, I think you're in a manic state again.
Like, I know this feels really real to you right now, but it's not.
And it's going to get better.
And we're going to keep you here for a couple of days. And it's going to be OK.
And so she gets him all checked in into a room in the hospital.
she gets him all checked in into a room in the hospital and she's then called into her boss's office who's mad at her for doing something for a patient that the insurance wouldn't cover
and it's basically just hammering home the point that she really cares about her patients it's not
about money for her and he's like this is like losing the hospital money if you keep doing things like this. And she just she cares too much. She cares too much. And he says,
have you been here since the night shift last night? We saw her wake up in her office. So
again, hammering home. She's a workaholic, loves this job. And she's about to clock out and head home when she gets another call, another patient just arriving.
It's clear that she's like, I don't know if excited is the right word, but like she wants a reason to stay and continue to keep working.
So she puts her little doctor coat back on and goes and meets this next patient that's coming in.
This is Laura.
And she's they bring her into this room where it's just the two of them talking as she's evaluating Laura. laura i think she gets some information right beforehand that laura about a week ago had a
professor kill himself in front of her he killed himself with a hammer jesus christ yikes yikes
yikes and so rose goes to sit down with laura who looks really like she's not doing well. She's also
similarly rocking back and forth and like
Matt. Is this the girl from the trailer?
Yeah. Talking to herself and
Rose
is saying like it's okay
like I know what you're
experiencing right now like feels
really real to you but
it's
like we can get you on some medication. And Laura says to her,
like, I'm not fucking crazy. I'm a PhD student. Like what's happening to me is real. Like this
is something is going on. I'm seeing something that nobody else can see. And Rose asks her to
describe it to her. And she says, sometimes it's a stranger stranger sometimes it's my grandpa that i saw die like
it comes in different forms and it's it's just smiling at me but it's not a nice smile it's the
scariest smile i've ever seen oh god and it's smiling at me and And. Oh, Jesus Christ.
This is a very like it follows e premise.
I feel like that's a lot of the complaints people have had.
It's like it's just like it follows, but worse.
But hey, it follows isn't a bad movie to copy.
Yeah.
It's like, come on.
If it's good and fun.
Who cares? Yeah. isn't a bad movie to copy yeah it's like every come on if it's good and fun who cares yeah so rose is trying to like it's clear she's trying to
help laura and and figure out what's going on and she's like okay um
uh and then something happens where all of a sudden Laura is stumbling backwards off her chair as if something else is in the room with them that moment.
She is screaming, freaking out and basically saying, no, no, no, no.
Rose jumps up, grabs the phone off the wall, saying, like, we need help in here.
We need help.
saying like we need help in here we need help and she turns back around and we see laura now standing staring at her with a big smile on her face yep yep yep yep there it is
there it is and in the whatever she as she fell backwards that she knocked over a flower vase so there's shattered porcelain
in the room and we see that she is holding a big chunk of it in her hand no no no no no smiling
and she is just locked eyes with rose and raises that porcelain to her ear, basically. And with the big smile on her face the whole time,
slits, like, slices down her cheek,
under her chin, and back up to the other ear.
So making, basically, a smile-shaped cut through her face.
It's pouring blood.
It shows the whole thing.
It's so bloody.
She's not... Shows everything. It shows the whole thing. It's so bloody. She's not...
Shows everything. It shows everything.
She's not flinching
and she just, she
drops the porcelain afterwards
and she, for a moment,
continues to just smile very
big at Rose before she
falls and dies from
blood loss. No thanks.
I assume. No thanks.
And we cut to title card
Smile.
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