Too Scary; Didn't Watch - Bonus Episode: SMILE

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone, welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, bonus episode on Halloween! It's Halloween! Halloween! Happy Halloween, everybody. Happy Halloween. Hey, hey everyone.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. Oh, exciting stuff. Have you guys seen any spooky Halloween costumes roaming the streets in L.A.? Have you seen any fun ones? I'll tell you what I saw today. So I saw a lot of goddamn Halloween costumes today. There was a little kids party in the park across the street from us.
Starting point is 00:00:59 And I've never seen so many children in my life. And the thing about Halloween is kids and adults get dressed up. So it was like everyone was dressed up and the prevalence of those blow-up costumes people love those so okay but like the creativity there um you know in fantasia the elephants with the tutus that dance okay there i saw there was one of those, which was really making me laugh. Somebody had to manufacture that. And I'm not imagining that's a really sought after item. No, but the best one was there was a woman who had a shark one on and they were blasting music in this park and they were playing Billie Eilish.
Starting point is 00:01:41 And this shark was just dancing so aggressively to billy eilish like alone and all the kids are loving it and it was like i was like what is happening this is so crazy um but it's really cute and i don't know I just love seeing everyone else's costumes. It's so much fun to see how creative people are. I haven't seen any and I forgot that that was even really a possibility. I guess
Starting point is 00:02:16 in LA it doesn't happen as often. There's not like a place you could go. Do you know what I mean? Do I get trick-or-treaters? I think I'm tucked away enough that I don't really get trick or treaters but that would be cute if I did but I don't have any candy so hopefully I don't
Starting point is 00:02:32 just disappoint them and that would break my heart we're gonna go trick or treating with our mutual friend we all have this friend who has a child and that I'm excited for because I do like to I like to be out and do it because then you like see the kids who walk by you and you like see the little families and also i'll probably get to like you know eat some of her candy because she's a fucking baby she doesn't know she definitely doesn't know she's too little she's
Starting point is 00:02:58 way too little she won't even know she doesn't even know what's good i'll convince her all the worst candies are the best ones and then i'll take the good ones for myself. Yeah, you're like ooh, you love Mike and Ike's. Ooh, Mike and Ike's those are your favorite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You love those. Also, there's like no way a two-year-old can eat Mike and Ike's right? Like wouldn't that be silly?
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yum, yum, yum, yum. Just rip out all their teeth. But I'll keep you guys posted for what good ones I see. i'm excited to see some some funny little costumes i can't wait i truly can't but you know what i really can't wait for i have an idea hearing about this movie oh my god yeah we didn't even freaking say what it is but i think you guys know well you guys wanted a super scary one that really won by a landslide. We asked if you wanted Hocus Pocus or a scary one.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Not scary, which I guess that is sort of the whole point. That is sort of the whole thing. I beg to differ. But I came really close to watching Martyrs and doing Martyrs.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I'm so glad it wasn't martyrs i am not prepared for martyrs but it's so funny because uh so what we end what we will be recapping today is smile and there's like a big part of me that would rather watch martyrs than smile like smile you did not want to do this scares me more because i saw a review that just called it jump scare the movie and I hate a jump scare so I cannot relax in a movie where I know that there are jump scares so I basically watched this whole movie with my whole body tense the
Starting point is 00:04:34 whole time because I don't know when the jump scares are coming so I'm just like constantly so I'm constantly braced whereas if it's like a torture porn movie you're just in it. I just like, I kind of know what I'm in for and I know what's going to happen and I can relax.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Okay. It's torture porn. I can relax. I can just sit back and relax. I know what's going to happen. It's because you can adapt. You can adapt to a torture porn, but you can't adapt.
Starting point is 00:05:03 It's like normalizes it's like when i went to see a surgery in 11th grade for my anatomy and physiology class that is like the body's already cut open so it's like okay well i'm in i'm in it yeah it's like jarring at first and then you're like all right well now i now i get it and that's what torture porn is like as well. But smile is just. Yep. I can't relax. I can't relax. I can't have fun.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Oh, boy. Wow. You really you really did a big favor to us all. A big Halloween treat for Halloween miracle. It's a Halloween miracle. You know, miracles happen on Halloween. You're Halloween miracle. It's a Halloween miracle. You know miracles happen on Halloween. You're Halloween Santa. It's just funny because I now think in, it like made me question my role in the podcast,
Starting point is 00:05:54 in the theater watching this film where I was like, probably I feel like one of the most scared people in the theater. I was sitting next to these two like 14 year olds that were just like laughing, having a great time. I don't understand not being affected by jump scares it's like literally it's like manufactured to make you tense and then jump like how how can you not like it's like getting hit with one of those things on your knee that doctors do your reflex thing where it's like like you were gonna jump and here's the thing here's the thing is that actually a jump scare that truly
Starting point is 00:06:27 catches me off guard, I do enjoy. And so if I'm watching something... You just don't want to know what's coming. Yes. So if someone says this movie's filled with jump scares, then that's not going to be a fun time for me. But a movie with one good, effective jump
Starting point is 00:06:44 scare that really catches me off guard is like fun it's because it's just a little jolt of adrenaline and i'm not like tensed waiting for it the entire time yeah yeah yeah so so you weren't having fun i really this was a tough one for me but oh man i did like it and i think i'd like it more upon a second watch knowing now where all the jumps i was tempted to like do what we the service we provide to others i was tempted to try to like google it first and be like where are these jump scares gonna be so that i can know when to be stressed and when to relax but that's what we're going to provide for you so if you feel the same way as me and you could see this movie knowing where
Starting point is 00:07:28 all the jump scares are, that's what we're going to do for you here today. A gift from Halloween Santa. Halloween Santa. My favorite Santa. Smile was written and directed by Parker Flynn starring Zosie Bacon, Jesse T. Usher, Kyle Gallner, and Cal Penn.
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's in theaters now. 79% on Rotten Tomatoes. 68% on Metacritic. 6.9% on IMDb. Nice. Nice. Nice. And the budget was $17 million.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So far, it's made $186 million. Wow. Wow. That's a lot. It was going to go straight to VOD. But it did better in a test screening than expected and so they decided to release it in
Starting point is 00:08:15 theaters and it's just crazy to think that they almost didn't. They wouldn't have a million dollars on the fucking table. They would have lost a lot of money in that. People like to see a scary movie in theaters in Halloween times. Come on. Come on.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Come on. And Zosie Bacon, Zosie Bacon is Kevin Bacon and Keira Sidgwick's daughter. Wow. Incredible. I want her and Maya Hawk to be like best friends. That'd be cool. Don't you feel like it's like a similar vibe? I didn't know that at all. But now that I now that I do know it, I can see it very much. See it. Oh, that's fun. That's really fun. And yeah, it's exciting. I love Kevin Bacon and Keira Sedgwick. What a great couple. Aren't they just like one of those good solid couples that makes you feel like they're a good
Starting point is 00:09:11 couple? Like love is real. Yeah. Happy and like believe in love. Exactly. Wow. Yeah. I really do see it now. Wow. This is really exciting. Okay. Wow. Okay. I can't wait. I've wanted I was so glad this movie ended up being good And people wanted to hear about it And people wanted to see it because every time I saw the trailer I was desperate To know what happens But I was never going to see it You get it the whole point of the thing
Starting point is 00:09:36 And I can't freaking wait to hear about it I'm so excited Yeah okay I've seen this trailer. I'm ready to see it again. This is it. I'm scared. I'm scared. It's happening. Let's watch this trailer.
Starting point is 00:09:56 What is it you like to talk about? I'm patient. Hi. I know you're nervous. I just want to have a chat. I'm patient. Hi. I know you're nervous. I just want to have a chat. I'm seeing something no one else can see except for me. It's smiling at me.
Starting point is 00:10:14 No! Oh, my God! No! No! Yesterday, a patient in your care died brutally in front of you. I need to find an explanation for what happened. It's smiling at me. It's smiling at me. It's smiling at me. No, it's not. You're going to die! You're going to die! You're going to die! You're going to die you're going to die i found 20 cases involving 19 victims with a direct line linking them all together
Starting point is 00:11:12 you said only 19 why is it that everybody else who's seen it is dead and you're alive i've seen it too you get away from me Everybody else who's seen it is dead and you're alive. I've seen it too. Me? Get her away from me! How long between each victim's death? None of them survived longer than a week. Rose! Today's my fourth day.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I am not going to keep running. I have to face it. How does it make you feel i'm just really scared that something bad is going to happen. Rose. Okay. Okay. That's enough. We're finally doing it.
Starting point is 00:12:18 We're finally doing it. I can't wait. Oh, my God. That was worse than I remembered. Oh, my God. looks so Scary and I Get to know I get to know Oh my god
Starting point is 00:12:33 Sammy thank you so much Let's do it Let's do it Okay okay okay I also will say that I movie hopped Into this movie this was my second film of the day yesterday and the first movie i watched was after sun which was like so beautiful and so i cried through like the first 20 minutes of smile just because i was still like in a very emotional place. Oh, wow. That's an interesting state to enter.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It was a very, it was very like a funny whiplashy moment where I just. Two very different experiences. Was feeling really fragile. And so things in smile were making me cry that should not have been making me cry. Oh, it's a very funny. I had space to be in it. But OK, let's recap it. And I will give the old regular disclaimer that it may not be perfect because I just saw it in theaters yesterday, but I shall do my best.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Here we go okay we begin on a woman's face who is dead in her bed with vomit oh like all coming out of her mouth like she was clearly at this point you're still crying yeah i'm still crying and we the camera rotates and we see a young girl in the doorway looking at this dead woman, assuming that this is her daughter. And then Zosie Bacon wakes up in her office. And the implication being that this is her dream that this was her past um finding her mom dead that's overdosed uh so c bacon's name is rose she is clearly a workaholic she works at a emergency psychiatric hospital and she gets
Starting point is 00:14:47 a call and someone, they bring someone in named Carl, a man that's clearly been in a few times before. They all know him. It's Carl again. And he's shaking and talking to himself and saying, I'm going to die. She's going to die. My mom's going to die. I don't want to die. I don't want to die.
Starting point is 00:15:04 They're going to die. I'm going to die. She's going to die. My mom's going to die. I don't want to die. I don't want to die. They're going to die. I'm going to die. And Rose is really kind to him and good with him. It's clear that she really cares about her patients. And she's like, Carl, it's me. It's Rose. Like, how are you? It's going to be okay. And she says, I think you're in a manic state again. Like, I know this feels really real to you right now, but it's not. And it's going to get better. And we're going to keep you here for a couple of days. And it's going to be OK. And so she gets him all checked in into a room in the hospital. she gets him all checked in into a room in the hospital and she's then called into her boss's office who's mad at her for doing something for a patient that the insurance wouldn't cover
Starting point is 00:15:55 and it's basically just hammering home the point that she really cares about her patients it's not about money for her and he's like this is like losing the hospital money if you keep doing things like this. And she just she cares too much. She cares too much. And he says, have you been here since the night shift last night? We saw her wake up in her office. So again, hammering home. She's a workaholic, loves this job. And she's about to clock out and head home when she gets another call, another patient just arriving. It's clear that she's like, I don't know if excited is the right word, but like she wants a reason to stay and continue to keep working. So she puts her little doctor coat back on and goes and meets this next patient that's coming in. This is Laura. And she's they bring her into this room where it's just the two of them talking as she's evaluating Laura. laura i think she gets some information right beforehand that laura about a week ago had a
Starting point is 00:17:08 professor kill himself in front of her he killed himself with a hammer jesus christ yikes yikes yikes and so rose goes to sit down with laura who looks really like she's not doing well. She's also similarly rocking back and forth and like Matt. Is this the girl from the trailer? Yeah. Talking to herself and Rose is saying like it's okay like I know what you're
Starting point is 00:17:37 experiencing right now like feels really real to you but it's like we can get you on some medication. And Laura says to her, like, I'm not fucking crazy. I'm a PhD student. Like what's happening to me is real. Like this is something is going on. I'm seeing something that nobody else can see. And Rose asks her to describe it to her. And she says, sometimes it's a stranger stranger sometimes it's my grandpa that i saw die like it comes in different forms and it's it's just smiling at me but it's not a nice smile it's the
Starting point is 00:18:14 scariest smile i've ever seen oh god and it's smiling at me and And. Oh, Jesus Christ. This is a very like it follows e premise. I feel like that's a lot of the complaints people have had. It's like it's just like it follows, but worse. But hey, it follows isn't a bad movie to copy. Yeah. It's like, come on. If it's good and fun.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Who cares? Yeah. isn't a bad movie to copy yeah it's like every come on if it's good and fun who cares yeah so rose is trying to like it's clear she's trying to help laura and and figure out what's going on and she's like okay um uh and then something happens where all of a sudden Laura is stumbling backwards off her chair as if something else is in the room with them that moment. She is screaming, freaking out and basically saying, no, no, no, no. Rose jumps up, grabs the phone off the wall, saying, like, we need help in here. We need help. saying like we need help in here we need help and she turns back around and we see laura now standing staring at her with a big smile on her face yep yep yep yep there it is there it is and in the whatever she as she fell backwards that she knocked over a flower vase so there's shattered porcelain
Starting point is 00:19:46 in the room and we see that she is holding a big chunk of it in her hand no no no no no smiling and she is just locked eyes with rose and raises that porcelain to her ear, basically. And with the big smile on her face the whole time, slits, like, slices down her cheek, under her chin, and back up to the other ear. So making, basically, a smile-shaped cut through her face. It's pouring blood. It shows the whole thing. It's so bloody.
Starting point is 00:20:25 She's not... Shows everything. It shows the whole thing. It's so bloody. She's not... Shows everything. It shows everything. She's not flinching and she just, she drops the porcelain afterwards and she, for a moment, continues to just smile very big at Rose before she
Starting point is 00:20:39 falls and dies from blood loss. No thanks. I assume. No thanks. And we cut to title card Smile. To hear the rest of this episode head on over to our Patreon at patreon.com
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